The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee & Rep. Chip Roy | 5/30/23

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Target has lost billions in value since launching its Pride collection, but that's not stopping it from donating to the woke policies. Sen. Mike Lee joins to explain how the debt ceiling deal needs to... go farther. Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain how the debt ceiling fight continues despite the current deal approval.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's do a podcast, do, shall we? Yeah, I think we should today. Yeah. Not yesterday. I wasn't feeling it yesterday. And that's why I said, no, I will stand up for my rights and do no podcast yesterday. Yeah. But today, we're back here Hardens.
Starting point is 00:00:14 We are. Slaven over a hot computer for you. Mm-hmm. Well, we're here. We're here. We showed up today. We got a good podcast for you. I got a few things to say about, you know, the budget.
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Starting point is 00:01:59 And Indianapolis is the greatest city, and possibly in America. And I spend a lot of my free time attending sporting events. That's what I've never done. It's great. I love it. I love it. I haven't been there in 30-some years. but I was a little spooked because the last time I went,
Starting point is 00:02:18 it was the year where there was a crash and the tire clipped the head of somebody. Oh my gosh, yeah, I remember that. And this year, right at the end of the race, tire came off the car and went over the audience and I'm like, it's me, isn't it? I cannot come to Indianapolis ever again. But nobody was hurt, thank God this time. Anyway, let's continue our conversation about some of the things
Starting point is 00:02:42 that are going on that are just so great with Target. Target, we told you now that they are all in, all in. And they're spending all kinds of money to make sure that your kids get the message that you don't have to tell mom or dad that you're transgender. And I want to thank Target for that. No, I didn't know I was funding that when I would shop at Target. But now I'm glad I know. so I can support them. Now, do you remember the sisters of perpetual indulgence?
Starting point is 00:03:20 I do. Okay, all right. Thank you, Stu. I was waiting. I thought it was sort of a hypothetical. No, no, I just really needed to know if you remember. I do remember. They're the Catholic, anti-Catholic group.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah. That does really nice dancing on the cross. They use it as a stripper pole. Yeah, that's great. And a bunch of men dressed as women go up there and... And Jesus. is on the cross. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And it's wonderful. And you'll never guess who was originally one of the nuns. Ah, I do have a guess on this one. And I love the story. You know, it's a person who we all know and love. We love them. A person who is very well dressed because they shop for the airport. A discount, deep discount prices.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Zero dollars for... Only cost you prison time. That's it. And I guess that's that. one actually maybe coming soon for our friends. Sam Brinton. Yeah, yeah. The, uh, the mad nuclear manwoman that likes to shop at the airport. That we were told finally. Yeah. Was it, they were able to break the, whatever ceiling there is against people who dress in women's clothes and are nuclear scientists. Yeah. Whatever, whatever window that is, ceiling that is. Yeah, he broke.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. So he's now in prison. Anyway, or think, you know, maybe. Uh, if, whatever, whatever window that is, or maybe if we had any kind of justice in this category. Anyway, back to the nuns. Do you remember they, the nuns went and they were going to go for the Dodgers? Right? They were invited for the Dodgers for a big transgender night. And not even just like a pride night. Okay, this group comes in.
Starting point is 00:05:01 They're offensive. It was a hero of the community award. Right. Right. For all of the things that they have done. Okay, so anyway, people were like, I don't think so. And so the Dodgers were like, hey, our fans are kind of pest. So they cancel.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But then, thank you, ESG. Thank you, Biden administration. Thank you public-private partnerships for getting the average person out of the driver's seat. So we now know that the California Teachers Union called the Dodgers up and went I don't think so
Starting point is 00:05:48 they were part of the pressure campaign and apparently the ones because students' lives are at stake and if you don't have the nuns if you don't have the fake nuns the children will die on the cross with Jesus the kids will die
Starting point is 00:06:04 The kids will die. Wow. These are very vulnerable lives. Very vulnerable lives. Okay, so they caved and they agreed with the California Teachers Union because, you know, and I think this, this might be a little unfair of the teachers union to say to them, but they said in their letter to the Dodgers, our students are watching what happens on and off the field.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Now, call me old school, but that sounds like a threat. Call me old school. I don't think a teacher's union should be using our children as a threat. But maybe that's just me. It's a great, we were just talking about this a little bit off the air in a situation, a hypothetical situation where you're out somewhere and the children come up to you and they give you the very sad eyes and they say please may I have some. May I have more please.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Would you please buy my candy to support my little league tea or whatever? And of course, you know, you know most of the time it's not real. But it's a kid's asking you for something and so you kind of feel obligated. Oh, geez. I'm going to say no. I would rather if it's a scam, look, I'm not going to give you $10 for the candy, but I'll give you a buck. because you're out working at least. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Give it a world. Look, sir. I could tell you about my soccer team, but it doesn't exist. This is actually just a sham. You know what? I respect your honesty and your thievery. But this is a version of that where I do not respect the honesty or thievery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Because they just use, oh, well, your kids are going to kill themselves. I mean, think of, every once in a while I really do have sympathy for these parents going through this. Because if you think about it, we talk about this all the time. What's the truth? Right? The truth is a boy's a boy. The girl's a girl. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But when you're a parent, right? Hold on just a second. For future tapes to be played in the court of law, I completely disagree with that. Okay. There you go. All right. Now go ahead. You're out of the gulag for another day.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But, you know, we know what the truth is here. The, but if you're one of these parents, right, your kid is going through a very emotional trying time. They are incredibly sad. They are questioning everything about themselves. You try to get them help from a medical professional. And that medical professional tells you, if you don't go along with the crazy progressive treatments we want to throw at you,
Starting point is 00:08:52 your son, your daughter will kill themselves. Yes, you might have to deal with a daughter instead of a son. But that's much better than a dead son. Right? Like that is legitimately what they tell them. these parents and they're terrified by this. I know. I know. And I, it is extortion. It is. It is. And evil. And evil. So, uh, listen, thank you Bud Light for helping that community do that to us. I appreciate it. Target. Thank you. Thank you for keeping all those secrets from the kids,
Starting point is 00:09:28 from the parents, from the kids. It's great. You, it's right. We're going to shop for our school supplies there Target, get all their school clothes. So then they can go to school and with your money, Target, you're telling the teachers, you go ahead and keep all that really important information away from mom and dad. So thank you for that. By the way, if you would like to, you know, have your voice heard, go to tell targetstop. com. Tell target stop.com.
Starting point is 00:10:01 This is actually a petition that's going to be delivered to chip and Joanna Gaines, who I really feel bad for because I love Chip and Joanna. Love them. Love them. Love them. Think they're really good people. Think Magnolia is wonderful. They have changed an entire town. And I just love them. However, I also know that this has to be driving them nuts and people have to take a stand. And so this position is just asking them to be a voice within Target to help restore sand. here. Also, you'll get all the information where you can email Target, Target executives. He used the word Target. Yes, because I'm talking about Target. He's calling for violence, telling them to stop normalizing transgenderism with our children and tweet to Chip and Joanna,
Starting point is 00:10:51 tell them that we stand with them, but need their help with Target. It's Chip and Joanna. You can just tweet them, but go to tell Target stop.com. I don't know how this would work, But if you were to get an indication that they were working on this behind the scenes, would that be satisfying to you? Yeah, if I heard it from Joanna. I don't really trust Chip. Don't really. If Chip told you, you just be like, not. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Let me talk to Joanna. I know who wears a pants in the family. No, I mean, because I am conflicted on that because part of it is speaking out publicly. But they probably do have a lot of internal influence. Oh my gosh, yes. There. They have to. I don't even know how.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They have to. I was watching the succession finale, which aired this weekend. And they have the little, you know, the lead up is like, hey, or here with all these shows that are coming up. And you see Chip and Joanna's face. They've got some HBO show coming up. Yeah, which may cause them to be silent. How? They have successfully, they are, again, they're not an outward conservative, like, conservative activists.
Starting point is 00:12:01 As far as I know, they're not activists. But they're religious. They are outwardly religious, but not activists. But like the fact that an outwardly religious and maybe somewhat conservative couple is able to be allowed in target at all and on HBO at all is a real, I think a victory for conservative culture and religious values. Yes. It's not really a victory. It's the way things should be. A victory in 2023.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In some dystopian blade runner sort of way. Like 2018. would be like, of course. They didn't kill the home improvement people. So let's mark that up as a...
Starting point is 00:12:40 But it is... So I can... I mean, it's a tough balance for somebody like that, I do think. And I think, you know, you've been thoughtful on this when you've been talking about this. Because I think you really do... I love them. I love them. I think they're great.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Don't know them. Wouldn't mind. You know, you want to stop by. I got some questions about my house. But bring some stuff from your bakery. Right. Which is delicious. Tell Target stop.
Starting point is 00:13:03 go there now this is the best of the glenbeck program and don't forget rate us on iTunes welcome to the glenbeck program now i want i want you to if you're on the side of the road pull over and i want you to notice the man who uh the the tribune in his own state a rag of a newspaper says he's just out of control. He's an extremist. Is coming on the air here in just a minute. And you're going to see him flaming angry. This is the extremist flaming angry version of Senator Mike Lee.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Hello, Mike. Hey, Glenn. I'm just roaming at the mouth here. Just getting ready to, you know, I've got to live up to the hype after that intro. I know. And usually a flaming. Angry extremist starts with, hey Glenn. Anyway, Mike, I know you are really upset, and I am as well.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I think the GOP, I've told you this for a long time. You guys have to hit it out of the park before this next election. Otherwise, the Republicans are done. I gave McCarthy the benefit of the doubt. I thought he was playing it well. What the hell happened, Mike? What happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You know, look, the Republicans in the House got off to a really good Stark and I was very complimentary of Speaker McCarthy when they passed the Limits Save Grow Act. It had a lot of really good reforms in it. Now, I don't think any of us had any certainty that it would end up becoming law that way. We knew it would have to go through set up negotiations and we would end up with something perhaps slightly less than what the Limitsavsave Grow Act proposed. Well, not perfect. That that That bill was something I was eager, willing, and ready to support, and could have supported even a little less than that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Hold on, Mike. Hold on, hold on. Hold on just a second. Take a breath. Try to reel yourself back in. I just love this for anybody who ever says, hey, he's an extremist, this is him hot. So go ahead. So go ahead, Mike.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Sometimes I have to interpret people that when I say, this could have been better for me. That means this is absolutely horrible. And a lot of my colleagues would be using words that begin with an F. Right. And you use really mad. Right. You use the H word as in horrible.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Horrible. Sometimes even heck. Yeah. That's been known to happen too. But look, this thing, the Limits Save Grow Act is passed by the house would have saved one point, or would have raised the debt ceiling by 1.5. trillion dollars and it would have saved in year one alone something in the neighborhood of about a trillion dollars and just the first year depending on which accounting method you used it was a
Starting point is 00:16:09 lead they're a little under a little over a trillion saved in the first year alone and would have saved uh about five trillion over the 10 year budget window but the new deal just suspend the debt ceiling uh and until january 1st of 2025 and many people are estimating that means a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase. There are other people. Some on the house are now saying that it might actually be closer to $6 trillion. Nobody knows for sure. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:16:37 What happened? What happened? I mean, no Raines Act. I would take this exact thing if you gave me the Raines Act. Yeah, I think I could go there as well. The exact same thing, even with as weak as the other protections are. If they're true in the Raines Act, I can probably go there. But they took out the Raines Act.
Starting point is 00:16:58 and substitute it for a regulatory pay-as-you-go measure, which sounds pretty nice at the outset in Section 263 of the bill. Until you get to Section 265 of the bill, it makes clear that the director of OMB in his own unlimited discretion, reviewable discretion, can waive it. So it doesn't really do anything. It claims to have an automatic CR to cut spending by 1% if spending bills aren't agreed to.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But when you read the fine print on that, as I've done, it doesn't do that. It gives Congress a three-month waiting period in which to enact an omnibus to get around the 1% cut altogether. So frankly, Glenn, I think there's not a whole lot of give here. If this is a quid pro quo, as any negotiation between Republicans and Democrats should be, there's a whole lot of quid and not much quo. we got kind of screwed here. So why, how is he defending this? Why are others defending this?
Starting point is 00:18:02 I mean, what happens next, Mike? Is it over? Or have they just reversed the situation to where now the Democrats have the high ground and we again are trying to defend a hill that is just going to get bloody and we'll just get smeared? Yeah, that's the thing is that we had to shoot a lot of high ground. A public opinion was starting to cut in our favor on this. And had he been able to hold out for just even a few more days, I think the negotiating posture would have improved substantially.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And I think the big mistake here was moving forward with this without consulting actual conservatives who actually wanted to cut a lot of actual unnecessary spending and otherwise bring about pro-growth policies. instead decided to just rely on the unit parties to do the work for him, which has become an all too easy and common tactic here. And perhaps he believed, you know, look, I like Stan McCarthy. I really do. And I've appreciated the fact that he has tried to keep me up to date on a lot of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think he genuinely believes that this stuff will do more than it will. But I have this nasty habit, Glenn, of insisting on reading the operative language before I'm asked to vote on it. And I've read it. And I don't think this does what he thinks it does. Well, I'm glad to hear that. So is there a, is there a battle between the Republicans and can it? I mean, I would assume the Democrats are all going to vote for this.
Starting point is 00:19:40 They say they're angry, but they're not. You know, they get unlimited spending. They get whatever they want, really. So are they, are the Democrats going to be united in this in the end? or is there a chance that the Democrats will split on this and the Republicans will split and so there's nothing that happens? Yeah, well, it's dangerous business to speak for any other member of Congress. I will predict right now that you'll end up seeing this uniting Democrats in a way that it will not unite Republicans. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I think you may well, you're likely to have more Democrats vote for this in both chambers than Republicans. But regardless, this is something that will have the support of a lot of Democrats. It will definitely have the support of more Democrats in the Senate than it has Republicans. And that should tell us something. Look, elections are supposed to have consequences, and they should matter here. We're negotiating this almost as if we hadn't just taken control of one House of Congress, which we had. and almost as if there hadn't been a big debate specifically on this type of legislation,
Starting point is 00:20:57 which there was and which was supposed to lead to a better result. The other thing, Glenn, is what first writes me about this is he's acting as if we really are under the gun, as if we have to do this immediately, or Armageddon is going to ensue. But, you know, we're just, we, Secretary Yellen has now magically affirmed that the, True ex-date and her judgment is now June 5th. It was June 1st just a few days ago. Then she moved it to June 5th. And that's a lie, Mike.
Starting point is 00:21:32 She would, and the president would have to say, we're not paying and prioritizing what bills. They would choose to default. It wouldn't happen because of any negotiation. They would have to choose to default. Am I right or wrong? You are right.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And it's also true that there are a number of financial analysts and policy experts in this area who look at the daily receipts and outlays budget information put out by the Treasury Department and say that we might well make it all the way to June 15th without actually running short on anything. And that if we did, the influx of cash that we get from the quarterly tax payments coming in on June 15th would be more. than enough to take us probably well into, if not to the end of July. I'm not saying we should wait until the end of the line to do this. I've been advocating we start on this since January. But my point is, why now?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Why is it all of a sudden now that they say, this is imminent, it's immediate, the whole world's going to blow up. That's not true. We're not going to default. Default was never really on the table. It still isn't. So it's better to get this right than to get it done fast under this false pretense that we have to do.
Starting point is 00:22:50 this immediately. It's just not true. Well, Mike, I thank you for fighting, and I know there's others in the Senate that are fighting against this, but I think you should make it very clear to all those who hate Donald
Starting point is 00:23:06 Trump, that you may have just handed him the nomination for the Republican Party, because the people, you had one shot. You had one shot, and I think you blew your one shot. Not you, but I'm saying the Republicans, blew their one shot. And if they don't pull this one
Starting point is 00:23:27 way out of the fire, I would accept this exact deal except with the Raines Act. That's not good, but it's much better than this. And that only restores government to the way it was supposed to be in the first place. But anyway, I digress. I'm not as calm as you are, Mike. But at the end of the day, Glenn, this makes me very concerned. Look, I'll support whoever gets the nomination. Yeah. I wish Donald Trump were still president today. If he's the nominee, I'm happy to support him. I'm happy to support someone else if they do it too. I worry about our ability to elect anyone president of the United States as a Republican. Yep. If we do stuff like this, because when people look at this, they're right to ask. No, Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?
Starting point is 00:24:13 You don't. This is what Democrats do. This is the unit party in action, and it's wrong. You don't you didn't hear me say that you just made him president. I said you made him the nominee. Whether any Republican can be, can win now with a bunch of people like this is beyond me. I don't know who's going to walk through a wall of fire. I don't know who's going to say, no, well, they're doing the right thing. The people at 62% were saying enough of the spending, enough. and you just gave them
Starting point is 00:24:47 $4 to $6 trillion and no real ceiling? This is good luck. Good luck, Republicans. Good luck. Mike, thank you so much. Thank you very much, Glenn. You bet.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You bet. Senator Mike Lee. Now we're going to go to somebody who's known to be a little more reserved. Chip Roy. We'll see if we can get him ramped up a little bit. tried to hold Mike back as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But I think it's interesting he signaled he be open to maybe just doing that Reins Act version of this instead. I don't know if he was saying. In 30 seconds, explain the Raines Act. Basically, we know how these three-letter agencies come out and just be like, hey, we're changing a rule and it's going to affect our economy by hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. And they just do that stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:45 The Raines Act, one of the main things it does is basically makes it so Congress would have to pass it. If they're making a law that's big enough to spend to change the economy, but I think it's over $100 million, it has to go through Congress. Well, the latest is on food. John Kerry was introducing this weekend what we have to do at the farm level. And it is, it's going to cause starvation. It will that you will have. have people who cannot find food all over the world, and this one will hit us as well. The Raines Act would stop that.
Starting point is 00:26:25 But thank you, Speaker McCarthy, for proving that I was wrong last week and absolutely right about you when you were running. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I'm going to get right to Chip Roy because he's on a tight schedule here. So let's go to Chip now. Hello, Chip. How are you?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Glenn, I'm doing great. Great to be on. And yeah, I'm on a tight schedule because we've got to go fight to try to stop this thing. But happy to be on the show. Yeah. So, you know, I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given
Starting point is 00:27:10 the nomination to Donald Trump for any of these weasels who were like, I don't want Donald Trump. He's an extremist. You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion. Not that Florida, you know, Ronda Santis is going to agree with this deal, but nobody's going to trust the Republicans after this. We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCarthy,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and this is what you return? It's what, $4 trillion or is it $6 trillion that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years? piece by piece. I mean, look, you're right that this is, I think, a terrible quote-unquote deal. And for your listeners out there who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase, January 1st, 2025. There is no actual dollar amount. So what that means is you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain. That date certain happens to fall in the middle of the lame duck Congress, by the way, right? or lame duck presidency if we're lucky.
Starting point is 00:28:18 What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens with it being uncapped and able to be potentially extended? We get at best, in my opinion, if I'm being as generous as I can be, to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending, a two-year freeze in spending roughly. It might go up a little, might be down a little, but it's basically a freeze, truly. and that's only for two years of actual caps. And for that, you know, you're going to see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Now, what does that mean? You'll see in the Wall Street Journal and you see all these people out there saying, hey, they're bending the curve. This is historic. They're flattening it. Yeah. We heard all that same crap near in COVID, by the way. This is just taking the post-COVID spending and freezing it for a couple of years
Starting point is 00:29:10 while we continue to feed the beast, the federal bureaucracy, and we do nothing, nothing to end the IRA subsidized unreliable energy. We have minor work requirements. We basically increase the age for snap and tan it from 49 to 54, call that a win while not touching Medicaid. We have no Raines Act pulling back the regulatory state. We get something called an administration pay go to offset the cost of regulations, but they can waive it, which means it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:40 We uphold the student loans and punt it to the courts to make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers and student loans. The IRS stays expanded minus basically $1.4 billion. You really can't make this up. And with all due respect to the leadership, they say it's historic. They miscalculated. They slipped into their old ways. I am going to meet with them today.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm going to keep fighting. I'm trying to make it clear that I'm trying to get them the benefit of the doubt that this wasn't sinister, that they just slipped into their old ways. and felt like, well, we got to do a deal. Yeah, you can't do that. The no votes for mounting. And if you're a listener out there, make sure every one of your members of Congress know,
Starting point is 00:30:24 get their voice, your voices need to be heard. Vote no on this. We can still kill this and start over and do the right thing. I mean, I'd take this if you had the Raines Act, but you got nothing. You got nothing. You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped today.
Starting point is 00:30:43 death in spending? Correct. I mean, that is 100% correct. We got out of the deal that we did, limit save grow, for a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling increase into early next year. We got a lot of really good things. Now, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that. I understand we've got to negotiate. I think that was the right starting place. But you tell me you're going to go jack this out two years to almost $4 trillion. and you're going to get literally not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put in the Limitsave Grow Act. Not one thing. Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list so they could say they did something, right?
Starting point is 00:31:29 $1.4 billion off of the 80 billion of the IRS and then say, see, we did something for the IRS. No, you left $78.6 billion of expanded IRS in place over 10 years. And you're trying to sell that to me as a victory. That's just not correct. This is old swamp thinking. You know what? Let's just let's just cut the crap. Old swamp thinking, this nothing is changing with the Republican Party because the leadership,
Starting point is 00:32:00 they're all swamp monsters. They're all swamp monsters. And until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture, you're not going to have anything change. You're not. You have a lot of good. Republicans like you that have come up and they actually mean what they say and say what they mean. But until those swamp monsters are taken out and let them go to their nursing homes, nothing's going to change. I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt that, oh, you know, this is, that was, oh, we made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:32:36 What? You had everything going for you. Everything. Now, now, now what's going to happen? The president made a deal. He compromised. Now the Republicans are, it's just these extremists being holding hostage, the Republican Party. It's the same thing over again. Yeah, Glenn, look, I agree with every word of it. Just make sure I'm being very clear here.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything that we did in the first limit, Save and Grow Act, and everything we accomplished with HR2. You're right. I think it is a betrayal of the power-sharing arrangement we put in place that would protect the Republican Party to make sure we could advance the ball forward. We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out
Starting point is 00:33:26 how to get 218 votes. We understand that's hard. We had a process that was working. That process was completely abandoned last week. The deal was cut, and that was a betrayal of the agreement that we had reached in order to create something that we thought would work. That's what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So I'm going to try to fix that today. If I cannot in the Rules Committee, when I go fight this in the Rules Committee, if I can't kill it, if we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow, then we're going to have to then regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again. Yeah, I was going to say, you got it. McCarthy, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I wasn't for him. I thought he was a swamp monster. And just last week, I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:10 I think I got to give him credit. He's playing this very well. Now he's just betrayed me. Again, I give the benefit of the doubt to the Republican, and they just shiv me in the chest. As I can be. This is not the end of this. This is the process that we started in January.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We showed that you can govern conservatively and when. We did it. We were doing it. They abandoned it. It is our job now to course correct. again, I've got, you know, not to quote Rumsfeld, an old Bushian, but you go to war with the army you got.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Look, the bottom line is, we were winning and we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively. So we're going to go do that today. We're going to have a press conference in 45 minutes. The 20 are strong. There are others that are with us. We are going to make our message be loud and clear.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I'm going to make my message loud and clear in the Rules Committee. And then we will keep moving forward, trying to earn votes and try to build up where we need. to head to do exactly what you just said. We got to make sure the American people are inspired. What I was trying to tell Republicans here is if we lose and we lose the vote because we get rolled, make it be the Dems and the squishes in our conference that roll us. Yes. Don't go and roll and cut a deal and then go try to sell me that it's not, you know, selling me out
Starting point is 00:35:37 because that's what they're doing. They're trying to snow me. Always. Trying to snow the American people and say, oh, this is a great deal. It is not. You know, that chart that's going around that I've put out on my Twitter account, social media, where I make very clear the side-by-side comparison of where we were and where we ended up. And it's not even close. No.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I know you have to run. So what do you want the American people to do? Anybody who still, I mean, honestly, I don't know how many times you guys can say, call your congressman because, I mean, really? We have. Well, let me back up and just say, for five months. months, we actually were winning. HR2 was in fact an historic position for Republicans to take on the border. The first limit Save Grow Act, that was a pretty historic bill. So now they abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal. It hasn't been passed yet. Just get involved over the
Starting point is 00:36:32 next 48 hours. Make sure every Republican knows this is a bad deal. Make your voice heard loudly. Do it on social media. Do it to their offices. We're going to fight. up here, and then we're going to regroup and figure out what the next step is to hold the line and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangements such that it's reflecting conservative principles again. I promise we're going to keep biting. The 20 aren't flinching, Glenn. We're just starting. Good. Love to have you and anybody else in that 20 that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress, because we have 48 hours. I'd love to have you back tomorrow, Chip, and just give us an update. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:11 to do it. Either I'll do it or someone else. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. That is the problem. We do have people in there that are really fighting hard. For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand. But it's all these
Starting point is 00:37:27 Mamby-pamby wishy watch. Look what the left has done to the country. Why? Because they will sell out every principle they have. They don't care who they stand with.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And they're standing with Marxists. Well, I think we should give them some more money. I mean, I don't think it's all. I mean, I don't want to be an extremist. You're being an extremist. You're standing for the Constitution. What is wrong with the American people? When did the Constitution?
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