The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Sharyl Attkisson & Steve Deace | 1/13/20

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

Believe it or not, newspapers still exist! And Rep. Rashida Tlaib boasted that her son thinks the planet will end by 2030. Investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson discusses why she believes the Obama-...era government illegally spied on her. Glenn recently sat down with author Kamal Ravikant to hear his amazing story about overcoming addiction and loving life. After missing the Glenn Beck Program’s 20th anniversary on Friday, Glenn finally gets to celebrate with some flashbacks to the good old days. And it’s only fitting to announce BlazeTV’s newest show, “Stu Does America,” premiering soon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, welcome to the podcast. We kind of started a little differently than I thought we would. As soon as I open up the mic today on the podcast, some stuff started spilling out. Also, we have Cheryl Atkinson, who is a five-time Emmy Award winner, the, you know, Edward R. Murrow Award winner several times. You know, they hate her now because, well, she investigated the truth during the Obama administration about Benghazi. and also Fast and Furious and others. But then she said that the government was spying on her. And of course, we all know that's impossible
Starting point is 00:00:41 until she just filed another lawsuit. Now she says she has five people who were part of it in the government. We give you that and so much more, including Steve Dase, as we try to figure out who's going to be president, he makes some bold predictions. Who's going to be the president? Who's going to be the presidential Democratic presidential nominee and vice presidential nominee? And also, I get to announce a thank you. Thankfully, a wonderful new program called Stu Does America,
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Starting point is 00:01:53 Put me out Here's today's podcast You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So we're going to get to Iran here in just a second. Iran is it's quite amazing how the media seems to just be pushing all of this still. In fact, let's play Alison Camerata from CNN. Listen to what they're still doing. Are you surprised that Soleimani's death seems to have united the people?
Starting point is 00:02:35 we saw something like a million people turn out on the street there to commemorate him. Well, I would dispute the premise that it has united the people, certainly not on the streets of Iraq. You would have to only believe Iranian state reporting to think that's true. I hear you, but we have seen with our own eyes the crowds, the crowd size that did turn out for Soleimani's funeral. Did that surprise you? Well, and in one of the enduring ironies of life, we now have the Iranian Supreme Leader, talking about crowd sizes in his own country. Just to be clear, are you saying you don't believe the video of the million people who turned out for his funeral?
Starting point is 00:03:13 No, I have no doubt. There are many in Iran who are wailing at the death of Soleimani. It is amazing to me how we have a media and a Democratic Party that are so lost to the people. I don't even recognize them anymore. think they recognize reality anymore. They don't see. Did you miss, even I saw this this weekend. Did you miss all of the video of the people that are on the streets that are chanting death to Khomeini? They don't want death to America. Where were your cameras this weekend? Where are you today? Where is the media? Where are the media? Where are the
Starting point is 00:04:05 the Democrats, it's truly remarkable how the Democrats have left, I think even the Democrats behind. The Democratic Party has left the voters behind. I don't know a single Democrat like this. I don't know a single Democrat who is in as much denoted. as the Democratic Party leadership and CNN and the other media sources. I've spent the weekend with people who should have been in denial and weren't. On the toughest of things, only to return to work and see the media in absolute denial. Why? Why? What is it they're afraid of?
Starting point is 00:05:15 The Best of the Glenn Beck program. Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed. It's available wherever you download your favorite podcasts. I want to play this clip from Rashida Talib, and just ask, as a mom, how's she doing? Listen. You know, my son, Adam, is literally my policy advisor. I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:05:49 If you ever met him, I mean, my team, everybody will tell you, it's like, oh, it's Adam. speaking. You know, he's a person, he's like, I'm so tired, mom, of people saying capitalism and socialism. Why not populism? You know, he one time, I was in a meeting with chairwoman Maxine Waters and two other colleagues about pushing this amendment to stop fossil fuel investment. Us, the government, stop investing in fossil fuels. And he whispers to me, mom, can I have a piece of paper? And of course, he doesn't know how to whisper. And I give him this piece of paper. You know, he sometimes, likes the sketch. So I'm thinking he's drawing over there. Before that meeting ended, he handed me the piece of paper. I had posted it. And he said, Mom, you got to tell him. He says, we only have until
Starting point is 00:06:34 2030. Like, he was giving me these talking points. And at the end of the meeting, I put it up, and I share it to share me chairwoman Waters and my colleagues. And she just smiled. And I thought to myself, God, if we could just clear the room and sometimes put kids in the room. Yes. Wouldn't it be Great. Her kid believes that 2030 were done. Is you're bragging about that? What kind of hope does your child, is your child growing up with? What kind of hope do they have if they believe the world is over in 2030? And by the way, New Year's Day, 20131, what are they going to think of you?
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Starting point is 00:07:54 Thanks. Cheryl Ackison is investigative reporter. She's the host of Full Measure. We're Cheryl Ackison. And she joins us now. welcome to the program Cheryl why thank you thanks for having me sure so
Starting point is 00:08:08 everybody said well not everybody the press made you look like a loon and a crazy person when you were reporting the facts on Benghazi and then I'll never forget the video that you took maybe you were in a hotel room or something
Starting point is 00:08:24 I can't remember exactly but I remember you having on your phone tape of someone turning on your computer and I think deleting things from your computer? Was that what was happening? Well, that was way after the initial forensics and discovery of the government intrusion on a third
Starting point is 00:08:40 computer, yes, while I was working, there was a remote access and hyper quick deletion before my very eyes of something that is not possible to do by holding down a key yourself or anything like that. And yes, Media Matters launched
Starting point is 00:08:56 an effort to talk to a supposed forensics expert who had never looked at any of these computers who declared I was holding down my backspace key or that it was stuck, and therefore none of the computer intrusion story was true, and it was all just sort of made up craziness. I don't think it took hold as much as they hoped. I mean, that was widely reported in the liberal press,
Starting point is 00:09:21 but I do think most people understood we have and had the forensics that prove the government intrusion from the start, and now, as you said, we have a federal agent, former federal agent involved in the surveillance who is admitted being part of it and helped us with some information. Okay, so tell me how that came about. How did you get this, how did this guy flip or this woman flip and why? The lawsuit that I fought for about six years at great expense with the government fighting every step of the way, so I never got a page of discovery, was ultimately dismissed last year with the main judge.
Starting point is 00:10:03 although there was a great dissenting judge who disagreed, but the main judge saying, I should have the names of the agents, not just the forensic proof showing the government did it. I needed to know the names of the people who were involved. And we argued we can't do that unless we get discovery. So it was this horrible loop. Right. But we put out sort of an all call for information because we were at a dead end, if that's what was required.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And we were contacted by a number of people that have been vetted, not by me. So I have limited information, but my attorneys have been researching and vetting people for four to five months. And as for motivation, I don't know, except it could be, you know, these are shady characters involved in doing this. You can imagine the federal agents could be willing to do illegal surveillance on lots of Americans, according to this information, not just me. That's all along why this was important. It wasn't because of me. But one of the people we name in the lawsuit is a former Secret Service agent who is in prison for other government corruption already.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So these are the kinds of people you're dealing with that you have to sort through the truth and sort through their information. And my vetters think that they have very good information now. Will it be enough to convince the judge to let us open this case with the names? I don't know. So, Cheryl, it would be kind of comforting to know that these were all rogue agents. but do you believe that that is true? Is that what the evidence is showing you
Starting point is 00:11:33 that these might be all rogue agents or was their coordination? There was, according to our information, coordination out of a sort of a task force, you could call it, run out of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Baltimore at the time under then-U.S. attorney Rod Rosenstein with a task force of people that included FBI, secret service,
Starting point is 00:11:55 contractors that were tasked sometimes to ATF, DEA, Secret Service, and FBI. This is a group that, and I believe this is just my theory based on information I have from people who work on the inside. There are numerous dark groups that do work like this totally outside the FISA process. I mean, people have asked whether FISA warrant should be approved, but we knew all along there was no FISA warrant on me. I had sources that told me that. So we knew all along that the spying on me was done outside the system entirely,
Starting point is 00:12:28 sort of this extra legal system that happens, yes, I believe, with the knowledge of important people inside the Department of Justice. Therefore, Glenn, we're at this loggerheads where no matter what we know, even if the guys bring themselves in handcuffs to me or to the government and to the courts, if Department of Justice doesn't want to hear it, doesn't want to prosecute themselves, it still goes nowhere unless there's, I guess, somehow enough public pressure for people to say do something. So the justice department, I mean, we've lost justice and intelligence in this country in more ways
Starting point is 00:13:09 than one. But those two departments, I think, are really, really screwed up. They were turning a blind eye at best. But I think the corrupt. But I think the corrupt. starts at the very, very top. Is there any indication to you that any of this stuff? Because, I mean, Trump is paying the price for this kind of corruption himself right now. Is there any clue that this stuff is going to be cleaned up? Is there anybody that is going to ride into the rescue here? So far, sadly, no.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I mean, nothing has changed for us inciting our lawsuit at Department of Justice between the Obama administration and the Trump administration. The same people are still fighting it. They don't seem to care about the forensics, which again, these are undeniable forensics. It's not something you can dispute as to whether the government's software and the government's IP addresses were involved. They're still fighting it. Instead of doing the obvious, which they should say, boy, this is serious. We need to get to the bottom of who may have done this. They're, they're, you know, in essence, covering up and obstructing. And I don't know what to do about that, except to say that in my view, there are still people in important places that don't want things like this to come to light.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And I think that's in part because, as I said, this is way bigger than just the surveillance on me. Who cares about that other than me? But this was done, we believe, and our information says, on hundreds of innocent U.S. citizens and other journalists, I just happen to have the intel contacts to get the forensics exam and prove it. So tell me exactly what they were doing to you and what you think they might be doing to others. They were around March of 2011, surveilling me, ATF agents who were involved in exposing the illegal fast and furious operation that the government had denied at first, moving weapons into a sovereign nation of Mexico into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. and they were ineffectively monitoring everything I did on my computer through government software, proprietary only to the U.S. government intel agencies that we see in our computer, in my computers,
Starting point is 00:15:28 while I was at CBS. So they could monitor all my keystrokes. They got into the CBS program. CBS announced this, by the way. There's not any disputing this. The programs were their computers were infiltrated, not just my forensics, but we hired a separate forensics team at CBS. It confirmed the intrusions.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And they were able to use Skype. You know, I don't use Skype anymore because I didn't know at the time. It can be activated silently by government or government software. They can listen in on what your conversations are without you knowing it, and they can ex-fil-trate files through Skype, which they did. Which means they can go in and take files that you have on your computer that are not related to Skype. and take them without you knowing. Yes, right.
Starting point is 00:16:17 They could remotely operate my computer at any given time. You know, they can set up an operation where they can access it as if they were sitting at your computer. I mean, all kinds of things. Basically wanting to know, I assume, what I was working on, what I was about to report, and most importantly, what Obama officials or administration folks were talking to me and giving me the information that I was using to break stories with. Who do you think this affects in the real world? What I think some people may miss about all of this is if they are, there were three classified documents planted in my computer as well.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Wait a minute. What do you mean planted in your company? The forensics show that deep in my operating system in a place I didn't even know existed because I don't know that much about computers. There were government classified documents that I didn't put there. So the conclusion was that someone obviously put them there. Are they trying to frame somebody for having supposedly given them to me so they could take action against an insider? I mean, who knows why they did that. But to all the people who say, I don't care if the government listens to me, and I do hear this because I don't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't have anything in there. Well, imagine the mischief that can occur if the government's not on your side or if there are bad actors inside the government who are willing to do bad things, you know, to make you look guilty or to make it seem like you've done something. There's other information that's not in the complaint yet that's very chilling that I don't want to talk about yet for legal reasons, but the kinds of stuff they were allegedly doing to me and other Americans would just, you know, it's even more chilling than what I've described. So we should all be concerned. And when do you file that?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Well, the complaint is filed. we'll get details and depositions and subpoenas and all of those things if this case is allowed to move forward. And that's where I think a lot more information comes out. How can the average person get involved in help in this if they want to, Cheryl? Well, I think if this had been paid more attention to as well as some other red flags, we wouldn't have had the 2016 abuses. This is really important. If these things aren't resolved, we're just going to expect more of the same. So I would say, can you tell the Trump administration, the Justice Department, tweet, say publicly, whatever you can do, don't sweep it under the rug.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Don't let it be swept under the rug. Investigate this Baltimore task force that was conducting, allegedly conducting surveillance on hundreds of Americans and journalists and government whistleblowers and so on. You know, don't let it go away regardless of what happens to my individual case. It's just too important. Cheryl, thank you. keep us up to speed on this, and thank you for all your doing, and I know what it's like to fight the government. And I don't think the average person, I mean, my eyes were opened to a new reality when I had to fight a lawsuit, and the government had all of the information.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And I happened to have been passed all of the information, but the court wouldn't accept it unless it came from the government. government and the government wouldn't release it. And I mean, it's, when they decide you're done, you're done. Right. And they have unlimited tax money. I do have some advocates that have started on GoFundMea Fourth Amendment litigation fund, Cheryl Ackison. That's the only way, I mean, I'm still like deep in a hole.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But they have spent millions of taxpayer dollars obstructing this. They can go on forever. You know, they can just do as much as it takes. That's the sad part. They can print money. You can't. Cheryl, thank you very much. Thank you. You bet. The investigative reporter, Cheryl Ackison, who has been under the thumb of the government for quite some time. This is stuff that if we don't stop it now, we don't stop it, and we become Mexico or Russia.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And there are people, I can guarantee you, there are people on both sides of the aisle that don't mind this stuff. because, yeah, they'll not use it for bad. It's just the other side. They've got to use it to stop the other side. I'm telling you, if we don't stop this stuff, if we don't investigate, if we don't clear our intelligence and justice department, we don't make it,
Starting point is 00:20:55 and we become a very, very dark state. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Like listening to this podcast? If you're not a subscriber, become one now on iTunes. But while you're there, do us a favor and rate the show. Last Thursday, I met with a good friend of mine. Man, my Thursday really kind of sucked. I do this podcast with a friend.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I find out in the podcast that he had died on the operating table. I knew that he had some problems. I didn't know he had died on the operating table. And find this out in the middle of this amazing podcast. He just, he wrote a book called Love Yourself, like your life depends on it. And, uh, and I think his, his life did depend on it. And what he learned, I mean, he had already written this book, but he used what he wrote in this book to pull himself back from the darkness. It's quite amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Listen to this part of the podcast. I went through some really traumatic, uh, surgery three months ago, like, and, uh, I was basically dead. and where I bled to death, I was spraying blood everywhere after surgery, after I was leading to hospital, artery burst, and I was spraying blood on everyone, and basically bled to death, and they had to grab me and shove me into an operating room
Starting point is 00:22:29 and flash me open and go fix it. Wow. To save my life. And literally, it was that close. And so when I got out of the hospital, I was in an insane amount of pain because when your blood builds up enough that it bursts out of your body, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:44 it's not pretty. Oh, I can't imagine. It's like an oil well. Yeah. coming out of you. I can't imagine. And you don't want to either. Sorry for the details. You know, pretty freaky. And I was in a level, I didn't know pain like this could exist, you know, like the level of pain I was in, because it was also in the lower abdominal area. There's a lot of nerves there. And so I was on, you name it every kind of narcotic. They gave me, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:09 and the hospital was also IVs and pills and that. When I got out, the surgeon said to me, I had multiple surgeons. One of them said, like, look, if there's anyone to qualify, for these drugs, it's you. You know, so don't worry, we'll keep giving you enough. We just have to call in prescriptions every time because of new laws. And a week into it, and, you know, let me tell they're nice. They end up pain. They kind of make you not care.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You're just lying there. And also, you're lying there incapacitated at a home. And I realized a week into it, I run off cold turkey. Just cold turkey. Why? Because I turned in this manuscript for this book before I had gone to the surgery. It's expecting a basic elective surgery I'll be out. And now the publisher was sending me the final proofs,
Starting point is 00:23:50 with the copy edits. And as you know, when you're a writer, you care about every word and you want your words to be there, not the copy editor's word. And I was looking at the material, realizing my mind wasn't there. If I was on these drugs, I couldn't give my all to this book. And so it was like, I realized, look, this was purpose, and that was bigger than pain.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I would deal with pain. Forget the drugs. I need to be clear because I have. purpose. And I think, and I realized looking at times in my life when I had, when I struggled with, when I was just like, okay, I'm going to go. I thought I was playing with drugs. You think you're playing. You know, you think you're stronger than them. That's also a very interesting thing. I always thought I was stronger at it. It won't destroy me. I'm different. Right? I will, I'll do it for a little while. I'll get out of it. No one will ever know. And no one ever really did, honestly, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:45 but for the grace of God, here am I, because I tried them all on there, there's dangerous stuff out there. And I think I was trying to destroy myself. And, but those are the times where I think I didn't have purpose, where I was drifting. But if you have purpose, if you have a vision, if you have something you move towards that,
Starting point is 00:25:02 you think is bigger than you. For me, this book out to the world, this book is so important. It's bigger than me. It belongs to the world. Whereas me, I'm going to be here for a certain amount of time. I almost left. I may leave again.
Starting point is 00:25:13 God, no. But the book, but the book was more important. So I had purpose. And I think with addiction, I've talked to some friends about it who've been through it. You know, we're talking about who've dealt with it. And it's like usually they were to beat addiction when they found something bigger than them. People can find faith. People can find something family.
Starting point is 00:25:37 People can find something, you know, whatever. But it's got to be bigger than you. Let me tell you that I know. know this to be true. When I met with Billy Graham, he said to me, after I said, what? Where is Abraham Lincoln? Where's the next George Washington? Where's the next Billy Graham?
Starting point is 00:25:58 And he said, I think God's done with the superstars. He said, he wants the credit. And he said, everybody is born for a reason. Everybody is here right now. And everybody is hearing what they're supposed to do. but so many might dismiss it. So many might think it's impossible, or they'll look for another way to do it,
Starting point is 00:26:20 or they will look for someone to help them, and they'll be frustrated because they think they're supposed to complete it when all they're really supposed to do is do exactly what they were meant to do. That purpose exists for all of us right now. We're all here for a reason, and there are ways now to connect. like never before. I got something from a friend of mine who our daughters are contemporaries.
Starting point is 00:26:51 They're friends. They went to school together. They're 13. She's 13, this girl, Ava Mabry. She's 13 years old. Same age as my daughter. And you want to talk about everybody has something they're supposed to do. Mark, her dad, sent this to me last week.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And I've had it on repeat. for the last few days because boy I really needed it and I realize you might really need this we're supposed to look for connections and just do what we're supposed to do
Starting point is 00:27:31 so let me do what I'm supposed to do today this is a 13 year old girl she was discovered by somebody on YouTube recently and said can you come to Nashville
Starting point is 00:27:46 and the parents my friends picked up their house and moved to Nashville and he just sent me this song by his 13-year-old daughter listen dear god you used to see my father said nash to a voice that's mine my face on a bill put my name on the top line this ain't the same old prayer that I usually say things just got real needs to know All the same, just in different places, struggling with many of the same things. This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say, because things got real today. I found myself saying that this weekend.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Steve Dase joins us now from the Frozen Tundra. Welcome to the program, Steve. Good morning, guys. How are you? Well, better than you are. We're not in Iowa. But neither is Corey Brooke Booker. He's dropped out. Just happened. This is the headline of a tree falls in the forest.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, exactly right. He hasn't been relevant in this race for months. And we could have multiple conversations why they would all be uncomfortable. So let's just say it's the same. A lot of it has to do with why Black Lives Matters is here in Iowa protesting Pete Buttigieg as we speak. And tell me about that. Well, you've got a confluence of events here, Glenn. And, you know, I've worked in ministerial cooperation between black and white churches here in Iowa
Starting point is 00:33:04 and organizing people of different racial persuasions for common local political causes in the past. So I have a limited amount of experience. with this, but it's far more experience than most whitties have. Yes. And the reality is that, I don't know how else to put it, so I'll just put it very bluntly. Black America is just not down with the charge of the Light and the Lopers Brigade. They're just not down with it. And some of it is the influence of the black church.
Starting point is 00:33:32 If you go look at marriage amendments across the country, I mean, if you look at the way the marriage amendment performed in California, winning there, if you look at how it overperform Mitt Romney in states like Maryland. in 2012 in the election there, it's always with huge overwhelming black voter support. So that's number one. The other reason is you have an higher archial rivalry here where on the intersectionality meter, sexual behavior has replaced racial politics atop the intersectionality food chain. And so for a more leftist secular group like Black Lives Matters, that's a major issue
Starting point is 00:34:10 where they're in the back of the part in the expression. They're in the back of the Democrat Party bus right now. And then in the same day that the Supreme Court did its first decision in favor of so-called gay marriage, that same week had voted, it got rid of the Voting Rights Act of 1964. And so you've got this tug of war going on in the left between these two groups. And Pete Buttigieg is right at the epicenter of this. And that's why you're seeing he has zero black support in states like South Carolina. That's because of the black church there.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And in Iowa, that's why you see Black Lives Matters is coming here. it's because he represents a special interest group that has replaced them in the left hierarchy. Do you see any, Steve, you know, the Cory Booker thing is fascinating to me in that, like, the media seemed to really love him. They kept saying what a great job he was doing in these debates. And now, look, I'm not in the demographic here of Democratic voters, so maybe I'm missing things, but I always found him to be very creepy and strange. But it didn't seem like any.
Starting point is 00:35:12 ever gave him a shot here. And as you point out, in these sort of intersectionality Olympics that are going on, the Democratic Party, they're all saying they want more diverse candidates, but they all seem to be voting for anyone but. Everybody wants diversity if it's their version of diversity. And the thing with Cory Booker is if he were a candy bar, it would be called what you may call it. There have been rumors about his sexuality, about his personality, about all kinds of things. And I think the fact that he just didn't satisfy, check any particular box in any of those components is why he committed the Cardinals and the politics.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And that is the number one thing every politician has to do, first and foremost, is you have to build a base. It can be a small and devoted one. It can be a big one. But you need a base that provides you the infrastructure to grow as a candidate, both from a support mechanism and then a word of mouth mechanism and then a legitimacy mechanism. And he just never did that. He was sort of a cornucopia candidate. And he never satisfactorily for a lot of people address the issues of his sexuality. He says he has a girlfriend named Rosario Dawson, the actress, but you've never seen him together. He's never addressed that. He doesn't really address racial issues all that much,
Starting point is 00:36:30 except in the one debate with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did it actually better. It's just, you know, What is he? What was he as a candidate? What base in this party did he represent? And the answer to not to be none of them. Let me go to your predictions for the election. They're pretty bold. In fact, because they're so specific. You say prediction in your top 10, number eight, four different people will win the first four states in the Democratic presidential primary to set a free-for-all for the nomination. It's never happened before. Explain it. Yeah, that's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:37:11 There's a couple times you've had three different people in the first three states that happened in 2012 on the Republican side. But I just think you have a situation in this latest Iowa poll that came out from the register speaks to this in that you've got no candidate has really ironed out alone a base, except for one, Pete Buttigieg, which is the white Subaru driving co-exist bumper sticker having suburban cul-de-sac litter. Okay? And if you want to know how many of those there are in Iowa, that's Pete Buttigieg's base. He has no other base anywhere else in the state of Iowa. That's his base. So just a bunch
Starting point is 00:37:47 of white suburbanites that want you to know that I don't know folks. So they're voting for guilt. But for the other candidates that can actually win this nomination, they're splitting each other's factions. And when you have that, you're going to have a free-for-all. You know, I think that you look at Joe Biden. His number one argument is electability. Well, if you're going to finish third or fourth in Iowa, I mean, what does that do to your electability argument? I do think when we get one of the problems all the other candidates have is they don't have any substantive black support in this party. And while black voters do not make up the percentage of voters in the Democratic side, white evangelicals do on the Republican side, it's really difficult to get to a majority of Democrat voters without black support.
Starting point is 00:38:29 He's the only one that has them. So in this crazy year, if my predictions sound nuts, consider this. The oldest looking, sounding white guy in the race who comes across incompetent most days is the only one who has really any black support. So there you go. Wow. And if he can just stay alive, if he can get to those to South Carolina and all those southern states that come in on Super Tuesday, he could certainly win enough of those. It wouldn't give him the nomination, but it would keep him alive to a convention. And then I think whoever emerges from those first four states between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, whoever can't,
Starting point is 00:39:05 Whoever cancels the other out is going to win California. And if you've got Joe Biden winning the old Democratic Party, and you have Bernie Sanders and or Elizabeth Warren winning the current Democratic Party, that is the prescription for a brokered convention. So you have Pete Buttigieg winning Iowa, Bernie Sanders, New Hampshire, Elizabeth Warren, Nevada, and then Biden in South Carolina. And I still think even though Buttigieg's numbers have dipped quite a bit in that Iowa poll. the reason he could possibly still win is how strong Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And we talked last week, I talked about the fact that Elizabeth Warren's dipping, then when they get into that caucus room and they start straw pulling each other, those leftists huddle together like, hey, we either hang together or we hang separately here. One of these guys or gals has got to go. Well, if they both go in there with a reasonable chance expectation of winning, it's going to be really difficult to have that kind of a conversation. and I could see the Socialists or the Soviets, because they're both Socialists, Freudus, Lip. I could see the Soviets and the more softer side of Sears version that Elizabeth Warren represents,
Starting point is 00:40:14 kind of canceling each other out. And then I could see a Pete Buttigieg with 1920, 21, 22 percent eeking out a small victory here. So that would have to be his scenario. It's interesting, Steve, because what you described with the first four states is the dream scenario of one Michael Bloomberg, who is currently running basically unopposed in the Super Tuesday states and throwing a quarter of a billion dollars at that. If this comes together, does he make a dent? Does he win a couple of these states?
Starting point is 00:40:40 He doesn't represent either Democratic Party. I think Michael Bloomberg's long-term game here is I think he's game planning that this thing goes all the way to Milwaukee. And they have to come out of here with, and you have to understand Bloomberg comes from this old political model. 40% of people are Republicans, 40% are Democrats, and elections are won by the 20%. 20% in the middle. And Barack Obama and social media wrecked all of that.
Starting point is 00:41:03 National elections are now determined by who can frame the battlefield for the most max-based turnout. Mitt Romney is the first candidate ever to win independence in 2012 and lose an election. So that model is antiquated, but I think he's operating on that model and he's going by, hey, they've got to come out of a convention with some kind of compromised candidate, and maybe that could be me. And you say that there's going to be a move at the convention to nominate Michelle Obama. as the compromise candidate. Yeah, she's the most logical name.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But, you know, you don't leave a 70,000 square foot palatial estate where Martha's Vineyard or whatever they just bought in order to get called, you know, trashy Michelle by Trump on Twitter for three months. You're not doing that. So I think that'll be the fantasy of, you know, several on cable news networks and within the leftist intelligentsia. And it will be entertained there quite heavily. but I don't think that she will, she's going to come off the bench and take that kind of a beating.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Because right now she can say whatever she wants, do whatever she wants, make as much money as she wants, and have none of the daily grind of actually being a candidate. So when she's not the candidate, you believe it will be? I think it'll be Bernie Sanders, because if you go to a brokered convention, there's two ways you win there, guys. One way is you're everybody's second safe choice. There isn't one of those in this. in this race. There's nobody, everybody else looks at and says, all right, I guess we can handle that. And so if you're not going to win with a second safe choice, then it's triumph of the will,
Starting point is 00:42:38 if you get the analogy reference I'm making. And you win with a hammer and a sickle and an iron fist, and you scare the hell out of the system with a mobocracy. You know, if you look at Wisconsin, that's where a lot of the modern leftist mobocracy that we have come to know today was born going after Scott Walker. That base of people is still there. That is native to, that is a native tongue to Bernie Sanders as an Olenskyite. And so I think you scare the Democrats to death with, we're going to make Chicago 68 look like it's a small world after all, okay, when it's closed, or you give us the nomination. And so since they don't have a logical second candidate, that would be a rallying point for the various constituencies in their Confederacy, then I think it becomes
Starting point is 00:43:23 a mobocracy game. And I can't see anybody edging Bernie Sanders out where that's concerned. Okay, he's not finished yet. We're going to take a one minute break and then back with the rest of how he says this is all going to play out. You can listen to Steve every day on the Blaze Radio and TV network. Just sign up for Blaze Media. Just go to BlazeTV.com slash Glenn. BlazTV.com slash Glenn and use the promo code, Glenn, and you're going to save 10% on your subscription. We have all of the real conservative voices here that you are looking to listen to.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Steve is just one of them every day following this program on the Blaze Radio Network. So here's where your predictions get a little interesting, more specific, and frightening a bit. First, you say that Sanders is going to name a vice presidential candidate that will not be from the middle. No, he won't. And, you know, I do these predictions for our sites every year. and in 2016, I correctly predicted Hillary Clinton was going to nominate Tim Kane because that's in her nature. Find a swing state.
Starting point is 00:44:32 She wants to really be a Wellesley College. She wants to be Elizabeth Warren. But in the end, she's really a brawurning technocrat. She wants to win more than anything else. So go find a nice looking senator from a swing state and put him on the ticket. You have to go with candidates' nature. If you're Bernie Sanders and you conquer the Democratic Party, you're not even a registered Democrat.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And you conquer this party and you conquer them at the convention. The last thing you're going to do is, you know, go get some, you know, middle of the road congressman from Indiana to balance the ticket. No, no, you've come this far. You're not showing restraint now. You're going to plant the flag. And so I think he goes for intersectionality with Catherine Cortez, Mazzos, out of Gadada, who is essentially Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's grandmother, for lack of a better description,
Starting point is 00:45:17 and a former left-wing trial lawyer, attorney general. She's from a swing state that was that just swing. one over. That's the one state. You know, we had all these warning signs of early voting amongst Hispanics and swing states in 2016 and how that was going to doom Trump. And it never came to fruition except in one state. And that one state is in Nevada. That's the one swing state that tipped because of an early surge of Hispanic voting. And I think you see Bernie Sanders double down from there. Now you say the deep state doubles down because they see this is a free for all. Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy guy.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I used to be when I was a kid, and then I realized human nature is often given too much credit. I'm also, though, not a huge fan of just ignoring when I'm actually seeing in front of my face, Glenn. And we've watched the last couple of years, you know, marauding rapist hoaxes for Supreme Court justices, collusion hoaxes, Ukrainian call hoaxes, oaks, hoax, the guy in Iran, you know, salami,
Starting point is 00:46:17 whatever hell, his name is, you know, venerated and revered. And so if you're going to go this, far. And the generic process produces the American Jeremy Corbyn. And you know that guy's not going to win a general. I don't know when you've been willing to use the levers of government with your thumb on the scale from behind the scenes. And there are willing media platforms that's going to let you do it out there on the left. I don't know why you'd hold up now. So I think like those bureaucrats that came out and testified at the impeachment hearing whose grounds for impeachment really
Starting point is 00:46:50 was I didn't like Trump's foreign policy. I think you're going to see them just like openly now, leak secrets, openly leak sources, openly attempt to, you know, sabotage American foreign policy. And I wouldn't be shocked if you saw the Federal Reserve in the third quarter of this year attempt to put its thumb on the scale economically unless you see a slowdown. Because if you're going to go this far in trying to discredit an administration and the people at appoints, right when the American people are potentially about to give it another four years, I don't know why you'd suddenly decide, you know what, maybe we should let the people rule after all. I don't think that's human nature either. And even though you call for even more turmoil than what you just said, your number
Starting point is 00:47:32 one prediction is Trump wins. Trump's going to win because the Democratic Party learned, well, there's two reasons he's going to win. The economy, we just don't get rid of presidents when the economy is going this well. That's just historic. Number two is the Democrats, the left in America spent, and I'm guessing you got these calls too. When they called people who were on the right, who were real conservatives and hesitant to support Trump four years ago, they called a bunch of us. I was on the McNeil-Lair News Hour, for goodness sakes, the day after the election. Just one example. Wanting to know, what did we miss? What did we miss? They spent about 48 hours of self-reflection. And then they decided, like John Lithgow says, in the new Pet Cemetery
Starting point is 00:48:11 movie, the ground is bad. They decided the American people are bad. And so I don't think there's any self-awareness forthcoming at all. And they're just going to nominate the room, Jeremy Corbyn. Agree. Agree with you. All right, Steve, thank you so much. The Steve Day Show is on the Blaze Radio and Television Network.
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Starting point is 00:50:15 Now she is Tanya Beck. And with every year, his experience continues to grow, along with his ego and his stomach. And Sue Trichis? Well, she's still drunk. All right, it's the 20th anniversary week of the broadcast. I believe this was the anniversary of the day. I first wanted to fire Jeffie.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And I can still remember it, looking at him, shaking his head like, you suck on the other side of the glass. And you get reminded of it now every day you see him. Every day, I still see him. Somehow or another, I've not been able to shake that guy. And also, Stu, who has been with me. And on this 20th anniversary week, I think it is only appropriate that we make a special announcement on Stu. Very excited to bring to blazeTV.com as well as YouTube and podcasts anywhere you go.
Starting point is 00:51:07 A brand new program featuring myself, Stu. It's going to be Stu hosting the show. It's going to be about America. And I'm going to be doing things on the show. And that's how we came up with a title, Stu does America. Uh-huh. And something America desperately needs right now.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I mean, Debbie did Dallas. Right. Why not you do America? We're expanding a little bit. Again, you can't just focus on your little area. Right. You really need to. Sure.
Starting point is 00:51:38 The whole country needs this. Really excited about this. Stu is doing his own daily show. He will still be on this program. He'll just, I don't know, be more tired than you. usual. And I already look so perky every day. We thought if there's somebody that needs to be on television, it's one of us. And I'm already there. So, Stu, it's your turn. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about it. I mean, you know, it's going to be a TV show every night, as well as a podcast
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Starting point is 00:52:31 Chad Prather as well. Chad Prather is really, really funny. And we thought, you know, hey, hire a vet, hire the handicapped. Oh, hire Stu. Yeah, you're not going to hit home runs on every pitch. No, no, you're certainly not. And it's, uh... You just hope to get hit by the pitch and get on base.
Starting point is 00:52:45 If you love John Stewart and the Daily show, you're not going to like this. But if you like Trevor, Noah, you're still not going to like this. You'll be like, where's the humor? But it's actually a comedy show that's smart and will help people digest the news of the day with humor. It's something we've tried to do here. And, you know, a lot of people have told us over the years that perhaps is not the best idea. but we have decided to try to treat the audience as if they are intelligent.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Now, we don't know everyone in the audience. There could be a lot of really stupid people there. Oh, I'm sure they are. Every audience. It has to be some. You can't have 50 million, a footprint of 50 million people and not have some real dummies. Oh, it's got to be a ton of moroc. It's not you.
Starting point is 00:53:37 If you're listening right now, it's not you. Not you. The people probably with last hour, you. You are the smart ones. They're the dummies. You're special. Yeah. You're special.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You make a difference. You get a trophy. Those people suck. But, I mean, that is a different thing, I think, than you're getting across the media landscape right now. I mean, look, you can get some conservative content, and there's a lot of great stuff out there. But there's been, I think, a lack of this in the media as a whole that anyone who's going to admit that conservatism isn't the same thing as Nazism or racism. You go to the media, it's hard to find that. It's hard to find stuff that, you know, a lot of times you just kind of get either something that's entertaining or something that has some intelligence to it.
Starting point is 00:54:25 We're going to try to do both of those things, but we promise never. Almost the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. However, we promise never to do both at the same time because that's overwhelming. We'll give you one of the two occasionally. And we'll clearly define them for everybody in a Soros organization. Yes, so they can just, they can protest the right organizations. Honestly, this is why a lot of the humor. is gone from the right because you, well, hey, there's a lot of unfunny people on the right.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Not you. No. You are funny. You are funny. You are funny. You're better than them. But it's almost impossible to do humor because they'll destroy you. They'll destroy you.
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