The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Steve Baker & Alex Clark | 8/15/23

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Glenn plays the hit songs that coincide with the birth year of some of our most elderly politicians. Investigative journalist Steve Baker joins to discuss what he’s seen while investigating January... 6 and how the government has attempted to stop this footage from being seen. TPUSA contributor and host of “The Spillover” Alex Clark joins Glenn to explain why she believes nobody should label music and movies as “conservative.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:29 The best of the Glenn Beck program. I don't know if you saw the story yesterday. A lot of people just kind of didn't pay attention to it. So I thought maybe we should bring it up and maybe highlight in a different way. There are now 20, 20 politicians in Washington that are over 80. Wow, that's a lot, although I may have guessed higher. So I thought we should just go and look at some of these politicians. And I'm just going to, just to put it into context, you know, what was a song that was out when they were a kid?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Okay. Okay. So Chuck Grassley, he's 89. He was born September 17th, 1933. And this was the song that was... When he went away, the blues walked in and met me. If he stays away old rocking chair would get me. They don't put rocking chair in songs.
Starting point is 00:03:42 No, not enough anymore. I mean, Lizzo has that one. Right, but she's a flautist for something that starts with an F. So that's Chuck Grassley. When Diane Feinstein was born, she's 90, the top grossing movie was King Kong. The original. The original. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:08 This is... Yeah. By the way, 1933, Hitler was also just appointed Chancellor of Germany, so... Yeah. Now, at a whopping 81 years old, born September 8th, 1941, was Bernie Sanders. And Bernie...
Starting point is 00:04:38 This super, super hit. Now, I love this music, though. It's great. It really is. It just, it does feel old. A little older than, yeah, puts it into perspective. This is what was on the radio. I'll explain what radio is later to the kids.
Starting point is 00:05:02 But that is Bernie Sanders. Listen to this stuff, it's like, this is the stuff that you hear when, when like Michael J. Fox went back to night. And then you're like, wait a minute, that was 1955. Yes. That was a decade, two decades away. Yeah. Before when he went back in time,
Starting point is 00:05:21 Diane Feinstein was in her mid-20s. Uh-huh. Mitch McConnell, this is what was playing on the radio. So if you've ever seen the movie White Christmas, bingo. That's, uh, oh, the way, the Manhattan Project had just
Starting point is 00:05:43 started when Mitch McConnell was born. Was Mitch in Offenheimer? Did he get to make an appearance in that? I think he was fat man. Or little boy. I don't remember. Is it Jim Reich? Rish? He's a Republican in
Starting point is 00:05:59 Idaho. Here he is. I'll never fall again. Say, boy, what you're going to do? I'm going to The year the slinky was invented. We don't have anybody young enough to be born in the year the hula hoop was invented, but slinky. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Now, Grace Napolitano from California, this is what was happening in 1936 when she was born. Every time it rains you. Okay. And he's from heaven. DR had just won his second presidential election. Oh, yeah. He had four total. This was just the beginning of his second one.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Then we have Eleanor Holmes Norton. She was born the year that Amelia Earhart disappeared. This was, we're still, we're still four years away from World War II. We have Harold Rogers from Kentucky. He's 85 years old. He was born to this music. And the Shirley Temple film, Heidi, had just been released. I'll explain kids what Shirley Temple is a little later.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Bill Crabbe, Paschrelle, from New Jersey. 86 years old. I'd like to say Oh the humanity Yes He was born As the Hindenburg Was burning to the ground
Starting point is 00:07:57 Maxine Waters Was born with this super super classic You remember the TV show The Adams family? Yeah Well long before television was invented It was a comic strip Really?
Starting point is 00:08:18 I didn't know that. It didn't know that. It was in something kids called a newspaper. And there were the Sunday Funnies or a comic strip. And the year Maxine Waters was born is the first comic strip of the Adams family. Much, much, much later to be a TV show. And then movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And, yeah, and cartoons too, right? I believe so. Later on. We have Steny Hoyer. Stennies these days. Now, do you recognize, I mean, you recognize this? This is also the year, don't worry about it, this is also the year that the Columbia Broadcasting System presents War of the Worlds with Orson Wells. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Same year as War of the Worlds. Stations present Orson Wells and the Mercury Theater on the air in the War of the World by H.G. Wells. Now, slightly, slightly younger than that is James Clyburn. He's 83. He was born July 21st, 1940, when this was out.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And you could buy a pound of bread, by a pound of bread. When did we sell bread by the pound? You can buy a pound of bread for 10 cents. But then we have Nancy Pelosi. She was born in 1940. So she's really kind of a spring chicken here. Really?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Yeah. In 1940, Congress limited the work week to 40 hours. Now, most people would say, people work more than 40 hours and other people would say what's work but Nancy Pelosi definitely knows. Then Danny Davis, he is a Democrat. Yeah. Is this post Malone or who is this?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. You want to get the best for me. Now this is the year that Captain America was first. penned and put in a comic book. The Marvel movie or? No, not the movie. No. No, the comic book.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Okay. Okay. John Carter, he's a Republican for Texas. This is, now you're going to like this. As time goes by, really. It was, John would remember that he was born the year General Mills introduced something called Cheerioots. Oh, Cheerioots.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I love Cheerioots. They're delicious. Much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much later became Cheerioids. Cheerios. Yeah. I prefer the Cheerioats, personally. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:38 This is Anna Eschew, her birthday, December 13th, 1942. The age I got a gal. in Kalamazoo, Zoo, Zoo, Zoo, Zoo, Zoo, this is the year. She was born the year FDR called for the internment of the Japanese in American concentration camps,
Starting point is 00:12:01 which she's got to be so very proud of. Frederica Wilson, a Democrat from Florida, she was born under this, and a 12-ounce- Pepsi costs five cents when she was born. Rosa DeLoro.
Starting point is 00:12:24 She was born the year, and you're not going to find this hard to believe. Born the year, scientists discovered that LSD had psychedelic properties. Yeah. When you could sing songs about pistols. I was putting the pistol down. It's a gun control song. You're allowed to do that now. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You're right. You're right. Virginia Fox from North Carolina, 80 years old, 1943. She was born. We're now about to enter the stereophonic phase. Ooh. Yeah, but not yet. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:13:06 We're still about 10 years, maybe 15 years away from stereophonic. But she was born the year Italy surrendered in World War II. And then, of course, we have Kay Granger from Texas. Uh, she, she was born. Yeah. She was, uh, born the year, James Cagney won best actor for his performance in Yankee Doodle Dandy. Hmm. Which, that's a good performance.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's like, uh, it's a little like top gun without any kind of technology in it. Uh, yeah, not a lot of planes really. Nothing utilized. Really? Not back then. It's, it's interesting. And like, you know, part of me. thinks if you're 84 and you get elected for the first time, good for you.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You know, good for you. If you are so incredible at 84 that you just walk in there and you're like, hey, I'm running and the voters say, hey, come on in. That's wonderful. Congratulations. When it's re-election number 27,
Starting point is 00:14:16 it kind of becomes an issue. And we're seeing, I don't know, some after effects. of some of these decisions about California looking at you with Diane Feinstein right now? Yeah. You know what? By the way,
Starting point is 00:14:32 none of these people are boomers. Oh, we're in Silent Generation? Yeah. Is that what it was? Is that the ones before boomers? Silent? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So they weren't boomers because the war hadn't finished yet. So
Starting point is 00:14:47 baby boomers? No. This is the generation before baby boomers, just to give you a little perspective. Now, look, they tell me,
Starting point is 00:15:01 I don't believe this, but they tell me that someday I'll be their age. I mean, doctors do not agree with this analysis. Yes, they think I'll be dead long before. Yes. But that being said,
Starting point is 00:15:21 if I do make it, I won't be in Congress. Right. And I think maybe some of these really, really, really, really old people should leave us alone. You've had your day in the sun. In fact, you've had more than a day in the sun. You've had over 80 years in the sun. And when you leave something out in the sun too long, it tends to dehydrate and shrivel up.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Right. And there you are. Perhaps that's happened to many of the brains in Congress. Yes. So please leave Congress. Now, I hope that this gives you a perspective of the 20 people that are running our country right now. That does not include the executive branch. I was going to say, yeah, Biden, we didn't even talk about.
Starting point is 00:16:11 No, no. He's obviously on this list. Absolutely. But maybe that will help you understand how very, very old these generation before the boomers really are. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. Steve Baker, welcome to the program. Good to be back, Glenn. Thanks for having me. So I had you on, I think it was last week, and we were talking about the 12,000 hours that you have been promised your first up to view because you're working on a story for the Blaze,
Starting point is 00:16:48 and you have found some pretty shocking things, but you need to verify before you even and write this, you need to verify on tape, correct? That's correct. It's actually 41,000 hours. It's roughly the math is the 41,000 hours by at times,700 plus cameras that are available in the Capitol campus. And that would be the 24-hour day of January 6th. That's where that 41,000 hour number comes from.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So they are going to court today to try to cordon off. some of this tape and say you can't see it because of national security. Is that going to prevail and will that affect you? It's a interesting question because we have, as you know, had limited access. There's only been five journalists given access up to this point. The first and most public of those was Tucker Carlson's staff's access. And then Julie Kelly, John Solomon, Joe Hanneman from the Epic Times and myself are the only five up to this point that we know. know of who had been given that access.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And then there's been a pause button hit. And we were told that the reason why this pause button was hit was because they were developing a new media guideline when this was coming directly from Speaker McCarthy staff. And with this new guidelines that were going to be published. And this was supposed to be published over a month ago. And then I got a call from a staffer last week who told me very specifically. He said, you were first back in.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You are the guy. We know what you're working on. We want this story out. And you're going to be the first one back in under the new guidelines. And they told me that this guidelines was going to be out last Friday. Well, that didn't happen. And so we still haven't seen the guidelines. And I'm wondering if there's not some connection to this new Judicial Watch.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It's not a new Judicial Watch filing, by the way. They filed this lawsuit back in February of 21, just a month after January 6th. But the point being is that the Capitol police themselves do not want people to have access to this video. So that's what's coming up in court today. That's a decision that prevents us from getting back in. That is a real problem. This is the people's videotape. This is the people's house, the people's capital.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And we're not allowed to see the videotape. I don't buy. It's not for a reason that is. less than dark. So yesterday, yesterday we had a former Capitol Police officer on with us and he said, nobody knows who Julie Farnham is and everyone should know. Do you know her and what can you tell us about her? Julie Farnham was hired by the Capitol Police just October of 2020, so just three months before January 6th. And she was brought in to basically revamp, which was what they refer to in the January 6th committee testimony as being a failing agency or a failing division itself. And she came from Homeland Security.
Starting point is 00:20:04 She was actually oversaw what they called their immigration vetting division. So I can imagine what that was alike. Yeah. But she did say that that was a significant intelligence position. that she held and that she was been brought in to oversee this 12-person internal Intel analyst division at the Capitol Police, which she describes as an intelligent consuming division, not an Intel gathering division, whatever that means. But I will tell you this, that there's not really anything nefarious at all. As a matter of fact, her testimony, even before
Starting point is 00:20:44 Pelosi's J-6 Select Committee is quite damning as to what was available to them. She was very clear that they had significant intel. In fact, they had intel that said specifically that there were going to be a large number of armed and with weapons protesters coming to the Capitol that day, that there was actual intent to actually invade the Capitol that day. And that furthermore, there were intelligence that they intended to actually take out Congress members. And with all of that intelligence there and reported to the January 6
Starting point is 00:21:23 committee, this information has never been shared with the American public. But I have the transcript of her testimony. Holy cow. So Farnham, she worked for Farnham, right, in the intelligence arm of the Capitol? Yes. Okay. Yeah, she would have been reporting directly to assistant chief Yogananda Pittman, who was the head of Capitol Police Intelligence. Okay. And then when she moves over to the chief of police, Pittman, then Farnham goes where? Farnham was with the agency for, or with the Department of the Capitol Police as they're what they call assistant director of intelligence and interagency coordination. So she headed up that division for about two and a half years before she went back into apparently private practice. She's no longer with them.
Starting point is 00:22:17 She left in May of this year. Okay. So why would he say yesterday that we need to know her? She sounds like a good guy. Yeah, I will tell you that the background that I have personally done on Farnham doesn't give me any indication that she herself had any nefarious intent. But I will tell you that, again, going back to her testimony before the select committee, that there are more clues about what Lieutenant Johnson said in that that she absolutely called an intelligence meeting with the upper echelon of Capitol Police leadership, and this was on January 4th, in which she specifically says that both Chief Gallagher and
Starting point is 00:23:08 Chief Pittman were present and she even says to the committee, it is my understanding that Chief Sunned was not invited, quote unquote. So who would have the power or what would the motivation be for Pittman not to pass all of this intel along? Well, what would be the motivation? I mean, we have to, you know, with any type of government. operation. We have to start with incompetence. You know, you always start there. And when we're talking about the actual police department, administrated by the largest, most incompetent government
Starting point is 00:23:50 in the world, you know, it's a fair place to start before you get into malfeasance or malevolence or anything of that sort. But the fact that they knew, and this isn't very, very important for the American people to know, is not only that they have the intelligence, and it wasn't just from their own internal analysts. This intelligence of a significant event that was coming their way was testified to, by many other sources, we know that the FBI was sharing intelligence with them. They were receiving intelligence all the way from New York Police Department, that there was significant nefarious operators that were going to be descending on D.C. that day.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And then, of course, we also have heard, as we heard in the Tucker Carlson-Steven Sund interview last week, that we had both the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Millie, as well as the Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, wanted to shut D.C. down. They wanted to cancel all of the permitted events. And this is the other thing that Americans don't know, is that the Capitol Police themselves had issued at least six, what they call First Amendment signed off by the Capitol Police, in which they knew. that members of Congress were going to be speaking at some of those side stage events on the Capitol property. We're not talking about the big rally that Trump was holding at the ellipse, but these were events that were scheduled, permitted legally so, signed off by the Capitol Police leadership,
Starting point is 00:25:26 and for some reason none of that information was ever passed down to their command-level officers like Lieutenant Johnson. none of that information was ever shared in their morning roll call briefings that morning. We know from multiple testimonies, both on the record and off the record, with Capitol Police officers, frontline officers, that they knew nothing about what was coming their way that day. We even heard those testimonies in trials. In the first Oathkeeper trial, there was an officer by the name of Ryan Salky, and he was a brave officer. He stood his ground on the east door. That's where the famous Columbus doors are. He was getting beaten, manhandled.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He was getting just drenched in all manner of pepper spray and OC spray. And he never left his post until that door was finally breached. And in that trial, he was asked under cross-examination if he knew about the permitted events on the Capitol grounds that day. And he said, no, he said, the only thing I know, and I quote from my own notes because I was there at that trial, he said, I only knew something was happening at the White House. what conclusion do you draw and are we ever going to get to the end of this? Are we ever going to find out what really happened? What happened to the pipe bombers? What happened?
Starting point is 00:26:49 Where is that? Well, exactly. Look, when I draw the same conclusion as Tucker did in that interview last week, this sounds like a setup. And there's just too many missing, or there's too many elements here, too many, connective tissues for showing that it was for this to be just gross incompetence. And in fact, in Farnham's
Starting point is 00:27:13 assessment, one of the last things that questions that she was asked was this a failure leading up to January 6th. And her answer was very simply this. She said, I don't think it was a failure of intelligence. I think it was a failure to operationalize the intelligence. And of course, she would not have had the
Starting point is 00:27:32 that was not her position to do and write the morning briefings for those officers that day. Somebody had that information. Obviously, it goes right up to Pittman's office, and she had a briefing with them on the fourth. That information was shared, and for some reason they did not disseminate that to their officers that day. Do you know what happened with where we are on the pipe bomb?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Is that just over? We're not looking for those. Well, it's still called an open investigation, which is why in recent hearings on, on the hill that they won't answer questions about it because as you know they always say well that's an open investigation i can't talk about it but i will tell you this we know that the pipe bombs themselves were inoperable they were they were stunt pieces they were never intended to go off they were basically diversionary tactics because the first one was found in the minutes before the
Starting point is 00:28:28 first barricade breach at about 1252 p.m. that day and then the second was found just after that and when both of those were found and you can hear it on the Capitol Police Radio Coms, which I've heard all of them. I've heard hours and hours of their radio communications. I've read the transcripts that there is absolutely was chaos in that moment because now the undermanned Capitol Police, which is a whole other story in and of itself, is why a department with almost 2,000 uniformed officers that day only had a couple of hundred available on campus at the time. and then they were additionally diverted because those pipe bombs were found at buildings under the purview and the responsibility of the Capitol Police themselves.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It is almost like what a terrorist does when they set off a bomb and all the first responders go there and are distracted from what really is going on or they're blown up at the site. They dragged them in. I think these guys with the pipe bombs clearly were dragging the Capitol. police away so things could get much, much worse. The best of the Glenn Beck program. I really, really, really, really hope that one of these days, we'll realize the only expert that counts is you. That's the one that counts.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Because look where the experts have gotten us. Did you see the experts? They're talking about the new song that is out. What's that guy's name, Oliver, Anthony Oliver. Oliver Anthony, I believe. Yeah, you have two first names. You don't get to choose the order. You don't get to choose the order.
Starting point is 00:30:14 You don't get to choose the order. No, uh-uh. All of the experts are now saying he's worthless, he's no good, he's just a deplorable. Why? And why do we care what they say? We have Alex Clark on. She's the host of the spillover from Turning Point USA. Alex. That's two first names, too.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You could call her Clark Alex. I am. I am. And they're both guy names, and yet she's a woman. Oh. Interesting. So, Clark, Alex, as if that is your real name. Welcome to the program. How are you? Thanks. I'm feeling good. I feel like America is kind of back with this song. I'm so excited. You like it? I do like it
Starting point is 00:31:05 and I was excited I checked so I checked the iTunes charts this morning Glenn and he's not only number one on iTunes with this song but his the top 50 on iTunes right now is filled with multiple songs of his so because
Starting point is 00:31:21 of this song now people are going and they're streaming a ton of his song so it's his song is the most viral song in the country right now and then Jason Aldeans try that in a small town I mean, that's pretty telling about the state of America. No, but experts will tell us that those are just for deplorables, that those are just Hicks,
Starting point is 00:31:45 that this isn't saying anything except Donald Trump should be the ruler and king for the whole world forever. I mean, they are dismissive. This song, I think, is it cuts right to the core of how. people are feeling and they don't care. They don't care. Yeah, well, you weren't born to just pay bills and die. And any genre of music, you know, especially when there is truth and there's passion and their soul in the performer performing the song, that's going to resonate with people. That could be said for anybody. I mean, if you just look across history and what songs have done particularly well, it's whatever artist has kind of captured the cultural zeitgeist of the moment.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And that is what this guy has done. This song has tapped into the cultural zeitgeist of the silent majority. He's talking about growing wealth disparity. He's talking about a 1984 Orwellian government overreach. He's talking about rampant inflation and taxes being unfair. He's talking about people being hungry and how we have fat homeless people because all we do is feed the poor processed, low quality, cheap food in this country, a welfare state, male depression. This is what real people are going through. And yet they don't seem to either hear it or care.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And I'm not sure that this guy is necessarily a conservative or a Trump supporter or, you know, everybody's like, hey, he's on our side. I don't know if he is. I have no idea. I know that we have tried to get him on several times, and he wants to stay away from political shows because he doesn't want to be made into just a political thing. But everything is political now. Everything. Yeah, but I think that's smart for him to do. I do too. I mean, just look at, look at how Morgan Wallen has had to scrape his way back up after his near cancellation and end of his career. I think it is a mistake for any artistic work. I think movies, music, to just be broadly and openly labeled conservative if it's just talking about culture like this.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because I think we really need brand, we need artists, brand new artists like Oliver. We need movies like Sound of Freedom that are really just calling attention to common sense. And I think that when we are very quick to call these things conservative, that alienates, a lot of people in the movie, and then it prevents the message from getting out. So if all people see is like, oh, there's a viral song by this Oliver Anthony guy, but he's conservative. It's a political song. They're going to be like, well, I'm not going to listen to that. But if we're just like, hey, there's just like amazing song talking about life or whatever. It's just like very generic. Then they're like, okay, I'll listen. And then his message is likely to
Starting point is 00:34:51 really resonate. Well, I have to tell you, that's the way I received it. And that's the way I passed it on to friends was you got to listen to this guy listen to the words of what he's saying um i don't think he's concerned i mean he might vote like a conservative i don't know but this is a this is an american message it's not like democrats aren't suffering under bidomics it's not like they're not feeling everything that uh that conservatives are feeling you can't tell me that they like it i'm sure some do, but it's an American message for the time. And, you know, the other is they're the ones separating themselves. When you see the sound of freedom, that is something that should appeal to every American, every American. It is the one thing that I really thought we still
Starting point is 00:35:49 agreed on. Slavery is bad. Child exploitation is bad. Rape is bad. But, but apparently not. You know, Disney held that movie and wouldn't release it until they were kind of had their hand forced. Then they gave it to Angel and Angel took it and run. And there's no point where they say, oh, you know, I guess maybe we should have, no. They're releasing Snow White where she's talking about, you know, the sexism of the story and the dwarves. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, Exactly. I had the same thought that there's no way that this song could have this massive amount of success if only conservatives are listening to it and relating to it. So you know that there are people who might be classical liberals who traditionally vote Democrat. And I'm not talking about a leftist because that's just a whole other breed of people. But the liberals, I'm sure that there are some that are like, you know what? I also feel crippled, you know, by inflation right now. My small business is struggling. Like I relate to this guy. And the reaction videos on your. YouTube, you know, people that like play the song and then they, they show themselves reacting to it. The videos are men and women of all races, all shapes, all sizes. And every single one of these people,
Starting point is 00:37:11 Glenn, they're moved to tears. They're moved to tears. The reaction to this song being as big as it's been, I really think should give people some hope for 2024. And I think that's a really smart decision from this guy to say, I'm not going to do any political shows. Like, just keep speaking truth to actually red pill people. You don't tell them, you know, you don't give a kid, like vegetables, you put it in a smoothie or whatever. You tell them they're having something else so that they'll actually eat it. Like, that's what this guy's doing.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I think that's super smart. What do you think of Alejandro Monteverde? He is the guy that has, he directed the sound of freedom. he is a he's probably one of the world's best directors that no one knows yet he i've been following him for years he's amazing um and he was immediately they called the movie sound of freedom qanon which the movie was made two years before qanon even showed up where does the qanon stuff come from at this point it's just a way to use as as an excuse i think to shut people up and get us to stop talking about any, any productive or important conversation. I think it's the
Starting point is 00:38:36 most frustrating thing for me. I mean, as soon as that Q&on stuff started flowing around online, like, I knew this was focus. And I was like, I wish we would stop talking about it because I knew that this would be held against us at our throats as conservatives for the rest of time. Like, we are never escaping that crap, and it will always be held against us to invalidate any important message we have to say and say that we're just conspiracy theorists. I have to tell you, I know this is a conspiracy theory, but it is, it's a very well-run disinformation campaign. And I don't know who started it, but boy, it sure has benefited one group of people to discredit others and also to discredit things like pedophilia.
Starting point is 00:39:24 you know, there is, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's a lot of people in,
Starting point is 00:39:29 in powerful positions, especially in Hollywood, that seem to like pedophilia. And, and, and, uh, it's just interesting to me that,
Starting point is 00:39:38 QAnon kind of arose to prominence all about, uh, pedophilia. Thank you so much for being, what? A heck of a sentence. It did. It did.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I mean, you know, look, it's a, it was, you're saying basically like, what exactly that, you know, obviously because there were some high profile criminals right in Hollywood that were prosecuted for this. Yeah. Certainly Jeffrey Epstein. If I wanted to make sure that, you know, Epstein looked like a crazy, you know, not a big story.
Starting point is 00:40:17 If I wanted to, you know, make sure I'm protecting friends in Hollywood that were pedophiles, and I knew I was going to normalize pedophilia. The thing I would do is get people to laugh at pedophilia through something like QAnon. They're going to way to wreck your opponents, essentially. Yeah, wreck your opponent. Wreck the credibility of all that so you can go out and do what they did on Sound of Freedom and say it's not that big of a deal. Certainly what they're doing with by promoting it all the time and talking about Q&N. When I don't know anyone who believes, I don't know anybody.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I've never met a person who I've never met a person who I, actually believes all the Q&N stuff, but yet it's out there all the time in the media. Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to end the interview with that, Alex. Yeah, sorry, Alex. Thanks for being on with this. Clark, Alex, Alex, Clark, not sure.
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