The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Tatiana Ibrahim & Graham Allen | 6/11/21

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

It’s rant city as Glenn and Stu discuss the hypocrisy of the media refusing to cover Hunter Biden’s use of the N-word. New York mother Tatiana Ibrahim joins after her viral confrontation of a scho...ol board to share her fight against the indoctrination of our children. Congressional candidate Graham Allen joins to share what led him to run for Congress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast. We start with a rant on Hunter Biden that I'm out of control. I can't take the hypocrisy. Glenn appropriately antagonizes me into losing my mind. And that starts the show. We talked to a mom. We actually played her video the other day who's upset at the school board and the craziness that is going on with critical race theory in our schools. She comes on with us today. We've Alex Clark on from Poplittics. She is bringing conservative ideas to the world of pop culture. an entire new group of people that wouldn't normally listen to conservative positions. And she's a fascinating person. And Graham Allen, our buddy, Graham Allen, who was at the Blaze for a while. We love Graham. He is now running for Congress. And he's going to tell you about that whole situation going after a Republican incumbent who voted to impeach Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:00:52 All that is on today's podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to blazTV.com slash Glenn. The promo code is Glenn. You'll save $10. box and while you're here on the podcast app, click over to, click subscribe to this podcast, rate and review. Five stars is the appropriate number of stars. The same applies to Stu Does America.
Starting point is 00:01:10 We really appreciate you checking the show out. Here's the podcast. This thing too. Is the day. I make him suffer. I really do. I tell Stu, we're going to get to it. We're going to get to it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 But I know if I continue to hold on, then spring the trap and he explains. loads. And so, uh, so I thought I would just say two words. Hunter Biden. Ah! I am out of my mind.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I, I am out of my mind with the hypocrisy on this Hunter Biden story. That's not very productive. Mm. Not very productive. It's really not. In case, in case,
Starting point is 00:02:06 in case you don't know, uh, if you're lucky enough to pay attention to conservative media, then you might be aware that Hunter Biden, who happens to be the son of the president, if you don't listen to conservative radio, you may not even know that. He's the son of the president in the United States. He's been calling his lawyer the N-word in texts. And we had to go to the, we had to go to cross the pawn to the Daily Mail to even find that out.
Starting point is 00:02:35 There were the first ones to actually report this. And the conversation has a problem with it. Yes, the conversations are completely. insane. First of all, I will warn you if you have your small kids in the car, you may want to take a break. But this is, I would say, one of those... Why, is it going to be uncomfortable? Are you saying these are uncomfortable conversations? Couldn't be any more uncomfortable than what Allison Camerata had to do yesterday. Could it? No, okay, that's a good point. That is, it's not that. We have to do that today. It's not that uncomfortable. Oh, it's next. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Okay. Okay. So, this is a legitimate conversation. between Hunter Biden and his lawyer. It's the strangest conversation I've ever heard in my entire life until, of course, obviously, Alison Kammerich. Can I, uh, can I play the lawyer? Yes. Okay. And you play Hunter.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. children are too young to understand what it means, but you will show them. Oh, there are ideals of unconditional love that serve as proxies.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I don't have many. You, God. Oh, M.G. N-word. Wait. What? That is legitimately his response to that interaction. Think about what this is like his lawyer is in this deep moment of trying to help Hunter through God only knows.
Starting point is 00:04:15 what, a moment of introspection. He gives this beautiful thing about unconditional love and his reply is OMG N-word. No, but wait, wait, wait. He goes on. He doesn't just leave it at OMG-N-Word. He goes, OMG N-word. Did you just
Starting point is 00:04:33 cite a fictional character from the imagination of the collective frightened? By the way, that is your, uh, the son of the president of the United States, this devout Catholic describing God. That's what. So, That's how his description Hang on just a second
Starting point is 00:04:48 Hang on You have to say it more like him though I think I mean I think he probably said Oh my OMG And word Did you just
Starting point is 00:05:00 A fictional character From the imagination Of the collective writing And my dead brothers Unconditional love Is what I should rely on And my kids aren't children George
Starting point is 00:05:14 So he, it's hard to really parse what he's doing there. He's saying, I reject seemingly God, right, is what he's saying. I reject you. Would it be better if you, my brothers, my dead brother's unconditional love, which was, I thought would be a nice moment for something. No. And then he points out his kids are not children. I understand what he's saying there.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Okay. So then his lawyer says, my parents love was conditioned. My penis. Warning. as of late has been unconditional. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. What is he talking?
Starting point is 00:05:53 First of all, there's the point that like he's talking about unconditional love and he just brings it to his junk out of nowhere with this person who's trying to help him through this crisis. Secondly, if you're saying your junk is unconditional, are you saying that it has a condition under normal circumstances? Like is this a medical sort of convention?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Sometimes, I think sometimes it should stay in your pants. I think all men understand that. All women understand that. Sometimes your junk should stay in the junk drawer. It should be under the condition of lockdown for Hunter Biden. Right. Okay. So as attorney writes, that's why we're searching.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's why we're searching for my penis. This is real. We're not making this up. This is really what the text messages say. And his attorney responds, and we will always be searching. He's just trying to just ignore him. And we'll always be searching. Again, I apologize for the content of these texts.
Starting point is 00:07:01 They are not mine. He says, and after he says, we will always be searching, Hunter replies, it's a big penis, George. They always find it. And, and the last one. And I only love you. because you're black. Again, these are real. And he's, I believe he's a white attorney, is he not?
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't know. He says, then the attorney response, it is so annoying when you interject with frivolity. Now, again, think of the arc of this conversation. It's all like these nice, warm, I know you're going through a tough time. I want to help you through it from the attorney. And he just keeps replying with the N-word and jokes about his,
Starting point is 00:07:47 his genitals. So after he says it's so annoying, you interject with frivolity, he's finally hit that limit, right? The lawyer's like, all right, this is, I, you're just being an idiot. And he replies, true dat, N word. It's just so out of nowhere. That's when your lawyer finally says, okay, I'm, I'm done with my rant. Yeah. That's how it ends.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Now, I think you have to say, are you sure he does drugs? Because I find that, I find that shocking. I don't know how anyone might have detected that he was, you know, doing drugs. And I think the family probably had to be equally as stunned when that revelation came out, you know? Yeah, no, it's stunning. I will say what is not at all stunning is that absolutely no one in the mainstream media has taken the time to bother even commenting on these texts. the industry that single-handedly exists to fire people and cancel people for their naughty words can't muster one story about Hunter Biden and his use of the N-word.
Starting point is 00:09:01 These networks and papers and the P-word. I think we should go with a P-word as well with his attorney. I mean, he's just a pig. Very weird. Very weird. And obviously on drugs. all day these media organizations
Starting point is 00:09:17 exist to tell people who are like down on their luck or living in a trailer somewhere that they have too much white privilege they're racist and they have white privilege but they can't see anything interesting in the single most privileged person in the universe
Starting point is 00:09:36 using the N word a bunch of texts nothing to see here whatsoever. Nothing. And you know what's great is you talk about white privilege. You're telling people who live in trailer parks that they're white privilege, but you also say that they're trash. These trashy people. This guy is the most trashy person I have ever encountered. Oh, he is just the worst. I mean, it's hard to lower your opinion of Hunter Biden. But this, this whole escapade may do that. I don't think it did. It didn't lower it for me at all. Okay, Stu. Stu. Stu. I know that you have this weird thing about Hunter Biden and his corruption and all of this stuff. But I'm telling you now, I don't think. Let me ask you three questions. Would the Times cover this if it happened to a similar person?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like if you did it? Or if Donald Trump's son did it. Do you really think they'd cover that? I don't think there is an equivalent person on the other side of the aisle on this one. I mean, if the Trump kids are doing crack, they're leaving less of it on the dashboard of their rental cars when they return them. So we don't know if they are. They seem to be impregnating random strippers at a less frequent rate. So I don't know that there is an equivalent person.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But if you want to pick, just pick one of the Trump kids. You know, Eric Trump. Right. Like Eric Trump's texts come out and he's using the N word all over the place. Do you think CNN would find a 30-second segment they might possibly reference it at some point in their coverage? All right. Let's be fair and balanced. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Question number two. Maybe they just are not interested in Hunter Biden under any circumstances because he plays no role in anybody's life. Really? That's interesting because they just ran a giant profile of Hunter. Biden, not to criticize him for anything, but to help him promote his book that came out a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:11:45 They went through, they gave him a wide open space to just address everything that's gone wrong in his life. And they even had time to include color about his very first job when he worked with llamas and otters
Starting point is 00:12:01 at the zoo. Which, this world is so insane. It's so insane. They're writing a story about Hunter Biden and how he worked with otters and llamas. How bizarre is this? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Question number three. Question number three. They don't usually have problems with people using the N word. You know, I'll be phrased that as a question. They don't usually. I mean, do they usually have a problem with somebody using the N word? I found that they do.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And let me give you an example of this, Glenn. They fired Donald McNeil for using the N-word in a response to a question from a teenager about the use of racist language. Now, McNeil's use of this word in his defense. He was flippantly using it. Yeah. No, no. He just was a nice, easy answer. He asked, I think it was a pretty rational question.
Starting point is 00:13:02 One of the kids on this trip said, hey, you know, is it okay? my friend used the N word should they get in trouble? And he said, well, how did they use it? Did they use it in like a racist way going after someone or did they use it like in a rap lyric or something? And then he used the word in an example. And that was enough to get him fired multiple years after the incident. By the way, Glenn, this guy, this is their lead COVID reporter during a pandemic.
Starting point is 00:13:31 They fired him over nothing, not even. This is a guy who worked there for a half century, Glenn. The guy who was there for almost 50 years at the times. And they fired him for using the N-word when there was not no reason to do so. But Hunter Biden doesn't even get a quick mention in the paper. I mean, did he deserve it? Did he deserve it? I mean, honestly.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yes. One more question. Fine. Maybe they just don't care about Hunter Biden because he was just joking. I mean, obviously, obviously McNeil, I don't, there's,
Starting point is 00:14:10 there's no excuse for that. But Hunter was jokingly using it as a friendly nickname. Well, you know, to be consistent here, Glenn, in December of 2020, all the way back, how old were you in December of 2020? The New York Times...
Starting point is 00:14:29 The same age. Ran a front page story about a random cheerleader in Virginia who posted a three second, three second video where she was excited about getting her learner's permit to get her car and said, I can drive NWord jokingly to her friends. She wasn't targeting any African American in this circumstance. And I should also mention she was a freshman in high school who was absolutely not a public figure in any way. Why was that covered?
Starting point is 00:15:11 They didn't put this on the front page. They did. They didn't put it on the front page. They did put it on the front page. They put it on the front page of the paper. And by the way, she, part of this whole story, they weren't the only one who covered it. But the part of the story is she had to, she lost her role on the, she kicked off the cheerleading
Starting point is 00:15:28 team in college as she was going into college and had to, with, draw from college entirely because of all the harassment and everything else associated with her three second video she had made four years prior. She said she did not, you know, she was 16, 15, 16 years old. She did not understand, you know, really the word. She said it's in every song that they play on the radio. And I know that's not an excuse, but like I just didn't understand the consequence of it. And she's still getting tortured for this today.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Well, she's old. But she was old enough. She was old enough to know better. Hunter is still a child. He's still a child. So what do we learn here? We've learned that, well, that everyone's equal, just some animals are more equal than others. I think that's what we learned here.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And why would anybody take the mainstream media seriously at all? Why would anyone take any of this wokeness seriously at all? It is nothing but political correctness. And I think we're all starting to understand what political correctness means. You know, there's only one thing to say to that, Glenn. True dat, N-word. Well, we're still searching for da penis. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 They always find it, Glenn. And they always find it. Yeah. Well, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Okay, yesterday I played, I played one of my new heroes. She's a mom addressing the school board in New York. I want you to hear just a little bit of what she had to say to the school board. I think the board of education and those sitting on the panels are thieves.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I think they're liars and have committed treason against our children. My message to this district and the members of the Board of Ed. Stop indoctrinating our children. You're teaching my children and other children that if they believe in God Almighty, they're part of a cult. These educators put their own names out there. We have Mr. Berry who took it upon himself with Ms. Cyrus to create a curriculum. That should be it. Do you want the proof?
Starting point is 00:17:58 I have the proof. You created a curriculum of Black Panther indoctrination. Ma'am. You use taxpayers' dollars. Can I ask you one more time? I have no issue hearing what you have to say. Why can we not let the public speak? Why can we let the public know that you're teaching our children to go out and murder our police officers?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Do you want the proof? I have the proof. Is that what scares you, the proof, that a parent actually standing up against all of you? Is that what scares you to call out the names of these people? You work for me. I don't work for you. You have a duty. We are entrusting our children to you.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We teach our children morals, values, when they grow up to commit crimes and end up in prison and kill a police officer. It's our fault? No, it's your fault. You're emotionally abusing our children and mentally abusing them. You're demoralizing them by teaching them. by teaching them communist values. This is still America, ma'am. Her name is Tatiana Ibrahim, and she joins us now from New York.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Hello, Tatiana. Hi. Yes, hi. How are you? Thank you for having me. You bet. My wife and I watched you do this while we were just going to bed. It was about midnight, and we were up for about an hour just talking about you.
Starting point is 00:19:27 How's the blowback bed? from this because you were just a titan yeah well um i'm angrier i'm more angrier now um because i see that unfortunately we do have a very few um people that you know in our community that are you know they're in denial they're in denial and a new board member that's coming on who's actually pushing for this um but overall very large i mean i can't tell you the amount of support that we have been receiving nationwide. I mean, from Australia to Florida to California, all so many moms and dads in New York,
Starting point is 00:20:06 which is a great thing because, you know, but not, but not in your community. Because I was shocked that I didn't hear anybody applaud that we're sitting there. They were all just like sitting there like stones. Like I'm not going to look at anybody. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah. Actually, so I think I created the storm. They came out from the woodwork. So I have a big, big support for my community. I actually do. You know, it's amazing. I didn't even know we had that many people in our county, the amount of support that they, that they are given us. We had over 300 people at our last board meeting, you know, just alone that are, they're fed up.
Starting point is 00:20:48 They're fed up. People are paying attention now. You know, it's open to window. It's open their eyes. And they're actually seeing what is going on. and it's got to stop. And it's going to stop because I'm not finished. So when you were talking about when when when you talked about, you know, I have the proof,
Starting point is 00:21:09 is this critical race theory or I mean the panther, the black panther is bringing them in to talk about social justice and the police? What was it that pushed you over the edge and what is it specifically that your town is doing? So we have, you know, teachers and educators posting all over social media, their personal agendas, you know, trying to encourage students to read about taking out the president or former president, Trump. And, you know, they're exposing themselves because there's never a repercussion against them. They're getting away with it. You know, there's no policy in order in this district, you know, preventing teachers from exposing their personal beliefs.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They're pushing their personal beliefs and thoughts on our children. They're going on social media. They're participating in Black Live Matter rallies saying that their black students matter. Well, what about the other lives of your children? So no other life matters. I mean, do you know what division and animosity that causes children and confusion and hate? So you're basically... So have you had, have the kids come home, your kids come home and talked about this?
Starting point is 00:22:26 And have you had problems with the kids in the school? Your kids. Yeah. So, so, so my, my daughter was very confused. She couldn't understand, you know, well, I'm friends with this one and I'm friends with that one. And so why are we, you know, mom, you, you and dad are always telling me to, you know, love the police and go to them if we need help and, you know, to respect them. But they're killing black people. My friends are black.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And I says, whoa, whoa, whoa, where are you getting this from? You know, and she started opening up. And I started talking to her friend. And her friends come from different, you know, ethnicities and backgrounds and races. And the amount of support from them and their families, you know. And my daughter was surprised. And I said, why would you be surprised? Well, they're black.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So what does that mean? Because they're black. They can't agree. They can't feel away because the school is teaching them. that if you're black or, you know, if you're, they call them minorities, that they're not allowed to think, they're not allowed to feel, they're not allowed to have their own opinion. That's racism.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And that's not what we stand for in this community. You're also caught in a very weird place because you are a, you're a Christian, your husband is a Muslim. Christians can be slaughtered and nobody will say anything. Muslims are not supposed to be outside of the, you know, the Democratic Party line. And what is your husband, what's your husband say about this? My husband is furious, you know, even our, even our background, I mean, our ethnicity, my race. I haven't revealed what I am because I'm just sitting back and I'm laughing at this because they're assuming what I am.
Starting point is 00:24:15 and they have no idea where I come from, my, my ethnical background. Right. They're assuming you're white. Yes. They're assuming I'm white. That's correct. And I'm not white. So I'm just, I'm letting them play it out, you know, even with the name calling of homophobic.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I mean, it's funny because the closest person to me in my life, they don't even know who she's married to. And that's, this is what, this is why I say, there. They're telling us to be tolerant and acceptance not to judge, but they're judging. They're judging and assuming and they have no idea. You know, I don't know if you've listened to yourself back on YouTube, but what I was fascinated by was how the school board was so dismissive of you. They all jumped in when you said, when you said, you work for me. I pay your salary.
Starting point is 00:25:11 They all of them said, you know, no, this is free. We don't take money. But they never jumped in fully throated when you were expressing what was going on in the school. They only said, shut her off, shut her down. We get her out. At one point, one of them said, we should all walk instead of listening to you. Who were the people that you were naming and what specifically did they do? So, Ms. Cyrus and Mr. Berry, they are.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Mr. Barry is a principal in the eighth grade middle school. Ms. Cyrus is his assistant, is the assistant principal who just recently came in about, I want to say, three years ago when my daughter was leaving the school, middle school. And Mr. There is a, what other names? I mentioned so many names.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Those educators are the ones that created the curriculum. They took it upon themselves to create a curriculum. The books that they were, bringing in in crazy summer. And it's about, you know, the Black Panthers and talking about racist white pigs, cops. In one of the books, one of the little black girls has a doll that is a blonde hair, green-eyed, very pale skin doll.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And that is, you shouldn't have a doll like that if you're a black child because it's making the black child feel less of what they are. So now the child is going to look at a white, as a blonde hair, white, girl with green eyes like my daughter, because that's what she looks like, as a racist or as something bad. And children don't see color. They don't see color. You know, we have a new board member coming in. Exactly. They're taught to hate. And this community is a very large, populated police community. We have a lot of blue collar community members, firemen, construction workers. We work very hard. We all have morals and respect.
Starting point is 00:27:16 for one another. Now, whether you agree or not with us, it shouldn't be about us. It's about our children. So what made me laugh was the board members are saying, yes, we don't get a salary. So that means your work is volunteer. So then you don't have anything to lose
Starting point is 00:27:36 if you stand up for what's right. So that means you're just pure evil and you don't care about our children, right? Because you don't have a job to lose. You're not losing a salary if you stand. It is, you're dealing, you seem to be fighting with some people in the background, but seemingly alone. I urge you to join one of the groups, at least on Facebook, that are fighting this because you need more people around you. You need some help.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And I think you're doing a great job and go ahead. Yeah. We have, Glenn, actually, we have 352 different organizations around New York. Those are just that moms have been reaching out to me. We have been uniting. It has been nonstop. Amount of support is unbelievable. My community, including those that, you know, that you wouldn't believe. And it's not even political. It's not political because you have people on different political sides are saying, hey listen, we may not agree on politics, but I really agree with you on this because this is our children. They're hurting. I mean, how can you hurt a child?
Starting point is 00:28:56 What's wrong with you? You know, and pushing all this, the LGBTQIA community, hey, listen, that's fine. But it does not give a teacher a right or an administrator right to teach this. This is if they want someone to talk to the child, there should be someone. available to talk to the child, but it should not be an entire lesson plan or an agenda or propaganda against these children. Hitler did that. That's what Hitler did, right?
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's what Muslim terrorists in the U.S. They recruit children to do these things. Yep. Yep. And I have all of the books. I was just thinking about all of the teacher manuals that I have in our museum. from the Nazis that were teaching the teachers how to teach. And it's very similar to what is going on right now.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Tatiana, thank you so much. How do people get in touch with you just through your Twitter handle? So my Twitter, there's also a link that will link them to my website, my email, and my public Facebook. And we also have one page that says, Parents Against Critical Race Theory. If they Google that on Facebook, they'll find that. to and they can join us and join the fight because we're this is a winning we're going to win it's going to it's going to be a fight but we're going to win and have to remember people have to remember vote no Tuesday for this the monies that that they're trying to use to indoctrinate
Starting point is 00:30:30 children more so have to vote no keep shutting them down thank you so much uh you can follow her on Twitter at Tatiana Ibrahim T-A-T-A-T-I-A-A-B-R-A-H-I-M-H-I-M-5. Tatiana I-E-R-E-R-E-R-H-I-M-5 on Twitter. Thank you so much, Tatiana. We'll talk again. The best of the Glenn Beck program. All right, so summer has arrived, and with it comes all of those amazing summer
Starting point is 00:31:15 holidays. And with things finally starting to return to normal in this country, I'll bet you're looking to spend those holidays. with friends and family cooking up some good food in the backyard while the kids go running and screaming around the yard. Let me take your grilling game and knock it up one level. If you haven't already, I want you to go online and check out rec tech. It grills, it smokes, it even bakes, and it does it with smart grill technology, which means that it maintains perfect temperature the whole time.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And that means you don't burn anything like I have time or two or every time until I got a wrecked. It's sleek, it's sturdy. The thing is built out of solid stainless steel. It's a tank. It'll be the last grill you buy. A, B, compare the rec tech to the competition. You'll see what I'm talking about. R-E-C-E-Q.com.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's rec-tech.com. R-C-T-E-Q.com. Popletics. That's, in some ways, I think that's... No, it's not. Everything in pop culture has been turned political. So there's no pop left in it, I think. Alex Clark is with us.
Starting point is 00:32:26 She is the host of Poplitics and a contributor to Turning Point USA. Welcome, Alex. How are you? Hi, thank you so much for having me, Glad. I'm so excited to be here. I grew up listening to you. Wow. Well, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I appreciate that. Thank you. I wish I was in studio to greet you there myself. I know we have a couple of guests. coming up today. They're actually in the studio and I'm sorry I couldn't be there with you. So first of all, tell me what it is that you do because I think it's really important and very different than anybody else. Thank you. So I created a show that covers pop culture through a conservative perspective with Turning Point USA and it mainly lives on Instagram. It's a very visual,
Starting point is 00:33:12 graphic, heavy show. And I just break down the entertainment news of the day and the top pop culture stories, but I just don't include any of the leftist propaganda in it. So I call out celebrities when they do stupid stuff. And we have a lot of fun doing it. It's very pink. And it's really targeting a young female audience. We have an over 75% young female audience. These are young conservative women between the ages of 18 and 34. So what was your turning point? Because I know you were you were part of Indianapolis, the big morning show there, number one for a lot of years,
Starting point is 00:33:50 I think right after Bob and Tom left, right? Correct, yeah, one of them left. Bob or Tom, I can't remember which. One of them left. And so we ended up taking the top spot there for a couple years, and it was incredible. And I think part of the reason was is that I was very open about my conservative beliefs.
Starting point is 00:34:08 The problem was, and I think that was interesting to people on the show with being a pop morning radio show. and everyone else on my show had the polar opposite beliefs. But then it started to become, I think, my radio company started feeling like I was a liability. And I think I started to scare them a little bit because people were sending in complaints to the FCC
Starting point is 00:34:28 saying that I was a threat to their children because I said I was an NRA member on the air. So, you know, it started to get interesting. Yeah, well, I'm going to shoot your children over the radio. Yeah. I mean, your children aren't going to be with you. And I'm in this studio, but I'm going to shoot them. I want an idiot.
Starting point is 00:34:44 So what was the turning point? The turning point was that just motivated you to get out of radio and start your own thing? Well, I started to kind of realize that, okay, I can either keep moving up in radio. I know I have a good trajectory in this industry, but I'm going to have to start censoring my beliefs on air. There's no way that I'm going to survive in this format being an outspoken young conservative woman. And so I started thinking, man, I wish that I could host a show where I could talk pop culture because I love that part of what I do, but also talk about being conservative. And I just had no idea where I could do that. And so right when I was debating that, I actually started seeing ads online for Turning Point USA's Young
Starting point is 00:35:25 Women's Leadership Conference. This was in 2018. And so I went and I saw all these amazing female contributors that were conservative that I look up to that were going to be speaking. And I just went on my own. I didn't know a soul there. And when I heard people like Judge Janine speak, Dana Lash speak, all these people that I really look up to, I was like, I got to do this. I got to get out of here. And so I started really thinking about it. And it was only a few months later that Turning Point USA DM me on Instagram. And they said, hey, Alex, we're really big fans of what you do. We'd love to fly you out to our headquarters in Phoenix. Just talk to you. And I said, this is my moment. And they had no idea that I wanted to host a show like Poplittics. But I just said it.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I said, hey, I want to find somewhere where I can host the show covering pop culture as a conservative. and they said, oh my gosh, we love this idea. Let's get you out here and let's talk about it. And that's how Pop Politics was born. That is, I will tell you how different the world is 20 years, 20 years down the road. Stu was with me when I had the same thing. And I was like, I'm a conservative and I want to talk about things that are meaningful because I think things are headed towards trouble. And I just gave up because there was no place to go.
Starting point is 00:36:33 There was really no place to go if you wanted to do pop culture stuff. and Stu would listen to me and I was just dead inside I was like Britney Spears playing Britney Spears and I was like and that's what's her face with that super super classic and then I would talk about
Starting point is 00:36:49 whatever I wanted to talk about which was shocking I think for the audience and I had to go into talk radio and it was really hard how long did we work on that Stu three years, four years yeah oh yeah I mean many many years we still don't know how to figure it out
Starting point is 00:37:03 we still don't know what we're doing yeah no we have no idea what we're doing but we took us a few years to con somebody into thinking that we knew what we were doing. Well, before going to turning point, I shopped my idea around a conservative talk radio and everybody said, I'm so sorry, I think this is a great idea, but in conservative talk radio, you're an anomaly. There's no way that a young audience, there's a young audience out there that wants to hear pop culture that would listen to talk radio.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I said, you're absolutely wrong. And no one believed me. And so I just knew, I said there's a huge audience for this. And then when I created poplitex, it spurred this massive, what I call the conservative movement. And so now I have all these young girls that are obsessed with the show and obsessed with hearing pop culture without this leftist propaganda. And it's the first show of its kind in the conservative movement. Well, I wish I would have, I wish you would have come to me because I would have put you on the blaze. Because I think that is absolutely what the conservative movement
Starting point is 00:37:56 is missing. I think that we, we, we, we think one way. And we think we, you know, because we, we, we, we, we, we, believe in something and we use logic to say, okay, this works, this doesn't. So let's save this one and let's get rid of that. And we, we dismiss art and we dismiss pop culture. And if you're not in pop culture, you lose, you lose, because that's really what's driving almost everything. Absolutely. And, you know, the thing is, is that so many of these young people, when you're thinking about college age kids, a lot of them do identify as leftists. But then there's a huge group of them that are just apolitical. They say, oh, I don't like politics. So they don't consume any political shows. But the one thing that they all consume is pop culture. They're scrolling
Starting point is 00:38:46 on Twitter. They're, you know, they're on Instagram. They're watching their favorite YouTube stars. Of course, they're following celebrities. So they are consuming political news and propaganda, but they don't realize it because they think it's pop culture. So what I do is I kind of reach out, and I call it Cotton Candy Conservatism. It's very non-aggressive. It's fun. You know, they want to hear about Chris Harrison. They want to hear about Kylie Jenner. And so they'll watch my show. And then in there, I'm talking about, hey, by the way, let me tell you about what a scam Black Lives Matter is. You know, so then they're like, whoa, okay, well, I guess I'm listening to this because I also want to find out what Kylie Jenner did.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So it's a really good easy way to kind of red pill people without them knowing that they're getting red pilled. Can I tell you something that is exactly how this show started? Stu, doesn't it sound like us? This is what we, this is exactly what we did. We came in making fun of talk radio. and not talking about all of the heavy stuff. And then, unfortunately, after 9-11 and then Fox, it was, that all kind of washed out. But you are 100% right.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Do not listen to anyone who tells you that there isn't a huge market for what you're doing. So let me get a couple of ideas from you first. Chris Harrison, his run as The Bachelor ended. I just read this week that he he has the goods on ABC and he was demanding. He makes $5 million a year, $25 million as an exit fee. As he should. Did he get it? I don't know the exact number, but it was eight figures.
Starting point is 00:40:22 So I assume yes. So I am just blown away by this whole situation. I wish that he wouldn't have, here's the thing. He would be a superstar right now and he could absolutely, he could have done a dating show with Turning Point USA. He could have done one with Daily Wire with The Blaze. He had all these opportunities, but the thing that I'm so upset with Chris Harrison about is, is that he bowed to the mob because what happened was there was a girl on The Bachelor who went to some antebellum party in college.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And I don't know. I don't know what that is. I didn't grow up in the South. I grew up in the Midwest. I'm an Indiana girl. I'm a Hoosier. So I guess in college, they go to these antebellum parties that are like Old South. They dress up.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And so pictures of her in college in 2018 came out. And of course, everybody called her racist. Well, this girl, Rachel Kirkconnell, was on. a season with the first black bachelor, Matt James. So she's on a season with a black bachelor and everyone's saying she's racist because she went to an old South party. Chris Harrison, the host of since 2002 of ABC's The Bachelor franchise, says, hey, crazy idea here. What if we don't hold it against her that she was just a college student celebrating a party that's been done for years and years and years. I'm sure she, you know, wasn't meaning it to be racist or ill intended at all. And we just
Starting point is 00:41:33 forgive her. And we just let also, she hadn't spoken at that point and given. in a statement. He said, what if we just give her a chance to say something? The problem is, he said this to Rachel Lindsay, who is also the first former bachelor's, black bachelorette, and she is as, she is critical race theory as a person. I mean, that's who this girl is. She is such a social justice warrior. So because he had the cahunas to say this to Rachel Lindsay, like, crazy idea, why don't we forgive this girl who happens to be white? And this girl, the host that he was interviewing with happened to be black. They said Chris Harrison now has to be canceled because he told a black woman that we should forgive this white girl for going to an old South party. And so that is
Starting point is 00:42:14 what happened. He kind of put himself in a corner where you can't, nobody on the right would hire him now because he bowed and who cares about it now. And nobody on the left is going to hire him because he is, he's an untouchable. It's like he has social leprosy. Yeah, exactly. So that's why he wants this money. Also, because he's been with the franchise since 2002, he has all the dirt on ABC. So what I am predicting is going to happen. I think he's going to make a ton of money on a tell-all book. I think he's going to show the receipts on how ABC is not as woke as they claim to be and show all their dirty laundry and it is going to be amazing and I am here for it. Even after the eight figures, she's like this still happens? Oh, I think. Yeah. He's probably under,
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'm sure didn't he sign an FDA for a certain amount of time? Right. Oh, yeah. I'm telling you, I know ABC Disney. I've seen their contracts. I've been under one of their contracts. You don't say anything if you are out and you sign a release form. You are bound to sign. I mean, it is like the CIA looks like loudmouths compared to Disney.
Starting point is 00:43:25 This is one of those things, too. This story, I think, is really amazing in that. To me, it strikes me as almost the best, most pure example. of cancel culture I've ever seen. Gina Carrano, I think, is in competition for that title as well. But he did nothing. He asked for grace for someone. And he has this happen to him.
Starting point is 00:43:43 His apology and her apology of the apology were so agonizing, though. They immediately go to this. I'm so sorry. I didn't understand. Stand up for yourself. It was like a hostage video. Yes. It was remarkable.
Starting point is 00:44:01 why. I found myself not feeling bad for him after after the apology came out. That's the thing. You want to feel bad, but you kind of don't because you're like, dude, why? Like, have a backbone. That's the thing. What happened to people having spines? Why are we so scared of these people? I don't understand. Their arguments are garbage. They're literal racist. Why do we care what they think? He should have thrown the men's fingers up and said bye. I love you. So I have to ask. I have to ask if this is true. There are rumors that Kim Kardashian, you're ready for this, too?
Starting point is 00:44:37 I don't know if you've heard this. And Van Jones are dating. Really? Yeah. That's an interesting couple. They've been going, the rumors have been going around since Kim Kardashian and Connie West kind of announced that they were on the rocks and right before they announced their divorce even.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And you know what? I'm not a Van Jones fan, obviously. But I don't hate it. And here's why. If you think about this, Kanye West, conservative, Christian, she's not. Van Jones is more on her level. They also are both very passionate about prison reform. And they were both champions of that.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And even when she was meeting with the president, Van Jones on prison reform, Van Jones was the only person on CNN to stand up for Kim Kardashian to say, guys, this is an amazing cause. Everything that President Trump has done for prison reform has been unbelievable. It's something we've always wanted. Why are you guys giving her crap? over this. Like you would want to be her if you were in her position. So he was the only one to stand up for her. So honestly, I can kind of see it. You know, but I think that they could end up
Starting point is 00:45:41 being a power couple. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing Kim. I know that Kanye's already kind of put in his hat for the, put his hat in the ring for the White House. But I wouldn't be surprised if one day we see Kim do that. I think she's kind of revamping her image to really get into the political sphere seriously. Let me let me just take a break here just for a second and just say this, dear Lord, please help us. If Kim Kardashian is even serious, a serious choice for people, we're doomed and we know it. We need your help. In Jesus' name, we pray, amen. Alex Clark is with us. She is the host of Poplittics and contributor for Turning Point USA. She's actually in town because you're going to be speaking at the Young Women's Leadership
Starting point is 00:46:25 Conference from Turning Point. Are you not? Yes, actually, I opened yesterday. I got to with Charlie Kirk himself and it was incredible. And we have huge life-size Barbie boxes on stage that we got to stand in and pose like a doll. Can you believe Charlie Kirk posing like Barbie? It was so great. The whole conference is pink and purple. And so I got to open and I spoke first. And I talked about how Barbie is definitely, she would be a capitalist. She has the freedom to be all these different jobs that Barbie has. And so the theme of the conference is capitalist Barbie for all these young women. All 50 states are represented, even some other countries. We have over 2,500 young conservative women there. It's the largest, all women conservative conference of its kind,
Starting point is 00:47:11 and it's just absolutely electrifying. She might even be, Barbie might even be more than a capitalist. She may be almost a grotesque capitalist. I mean, she had a Malibu house before anybody ever knew that that was the thing to have. I mean, she had it all. She had it all. Jeep, convertible. Yeah, I couldn't go deeper than the
Starting point is 00:47:34 Malibu House. The the speakers that are speaking this weekend, what is the main message that is being
Starting point is 00:47:44 passed on and what is it that these young women are being empowered to do? What is it that they want to do, do you think?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Well, the majority of the girls that are in audience at this conference are high school, in college age. So I think the main thing is that we're hoping that all these different speakers, we have everyone from Lara Trump, Judge Janine yesterday to we have Kaylee McEnany coming. We're hoping that they're going to go back on their campuses at school or our young professional,
Starting point is 00:48:16 I call them career servitives, that they're going to go back into their workplace in their office and they're going to be empowered to talk about loud and proud about their conservative values. And so it's really empowering them. They're being around other people like them. They're seeing that they're not alone. And that's the main thing. is that one of the easiest, you know, the best tactics that the left has against young conservative women is that they make us feel like we are totally alone. And so we don't want to speak up and share that we are conservative
Starting point is 00:48:39 because we think no one else is. And when they're in a conference room full of thousands of other women just like them, they see that that's not the case. And they are so pumped to go back into their life after this weekend and share the truth about who conservatives really are. It is so great. Stu, would you take Alex for a quick tour of the museum after the show if you have time or have somebody do that next door.
Starting point is 00:49:02 We have things next door at our Mercury One Museum that I think you'll, you have my permission to go access at any time. It's an amazing collection of American items that you might want to use in your career. Anyway, you can follow Alex at Real Alex Clark, Real Alex Clark or Poplittics. Both of those are on Instagram. You can follow her there. You can also find out more information at T-P-U-S-A.com. Alex, let's talk again.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Thanks. Thanks, Glenn. No, no, no.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.