The Glenn Beck Program - Bombshell Report Suggests the FBI Lied About Jan. 6 Pipe Bomber | Guests: Rep. Barry Loudermilk & Wave Nunnally | 12/19/24

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has officially declared a state of emergency because of a recent bird flu outbreak despite no reported cases of human-to-human transmission. Is Gavin Newsom the Justin Trudeau of America? Glenn plays the latest song by Five for Fighting's John Ondrasik, a dis track against Justin Trudeau. Glenn and Liz warn of the coming political war as Trump enters the White House. Will Republicans be able to make the most of the opportunity they've been given? Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) joins to break down what his latest report on the corruption of January 6 exposes. Could we see some accountability for the people involved, like Liz Cheney? Wave Nunnally, Evangel University professor of early Judaism, joins to outline the historical story behind the three wise men and what they were doing in the lead-up to Jesus' birth. Quentin Schultze, Calvin University professor, joins to give the lesson Americans can take away from the holiday classic "A Christmas Story." Glenn and Liz react to Minneapolis local news putting on a satanic display.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you're a farmer, your chickens may not just have the sniffles. It could be bird flu. The first severe human case has happened. Now, it happened in Louisiana, but Gavin Newsom knows he better in invoke emergency action right away. Wait until you hear this story with Liz Wheeler joining me again today on the Glenbeck program. We begin in 60 seconds. First, our sponsor, which is Relief Factor.

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hospitalized. He's in critical condition. He's experiencing severe respiratory illness related to H5N1 infection, which is bird flu. CDC says the patient was likely exposed to the virus from a backyard flock, which could be the first time such a flock has been associated with bird flu infection in the U.S. Now, an investigation into the source. They're questioning the chickens right now. Some of the chickens are in line to be questioned.

One of them was caught coughing, but a number. Another one had the sniffles. So we don't know who gave the farmer the flu. But Gavin Newson is about to spring into action, right, Liz? I heard that even though this happened in Louisiana, Gavin Newsom heard about it because he was at the French laundry restaurant up in San Francisco. That serves really nice chicken. They do. So, yeah.

I mean, very expensive chicken. But anyway, go ahead. Only suitable for Gavin Newsom. Listen, on March 19th of 2020, I lived in California. unfortunately, I'm a survivor. I lived in San Diego when he locked down the state. And the experience was like, no, I mean, we weren't allowed to go outside. I was sitting in a park on a hillside by my house.

And when I say park, I mean a grassy hill, not a playground. And a police officer on an ATV comes up to me and goes, ma'am, this park is closed. And I was like, I'm just sitting here. There's nobody else around. And he's like, well, social distancing rules from Gavin Newsome. And I was like, the only... Social distancing. You're the only one that violated is you on your ATV. And I pointed that out to him, but he didn't think it was amusing as amusing as I did, although I couldn't really see because he had a mask on.

Yeah, okay, good. He might have been smiling under that mask, most likely not in California. I don't think anybody is smiling in California. Gavin Newsom is the Justin Trudeau of America. He really is. I mean the guy is a wannabe dictator. Now, when I say that, I don't mean that he is, you know, his father is Fidel Castro. I didn't mean that literally that he is Justin Trudeau. But he's the closest thing that we have to Justin Trudeau. And so he said that he passed a proclamation. The proclamation I'm quoting is targeted action to ensure government agencies have the resources and flexibility they need to respond quickly to this outbreak. Now, I don't know about you. But I think if it's in Louisiana, it might come through Texas first and then New Mexico and then, well, nothing. really goes through New Mexico and then Arizona and boom there it's in California

but California is responding first and when I think bird flu I think we've got to have some emergency measures and more money going into the government and their state coffers so they can enforce common sense rules and that's what he's doing he said building on California's testing and monitoring

system. Oh, that was so good last time. We're committed to further protecting public health. Oh, he's doing it for us, gang. Supporting our agriculture industry, ensuring that Californians have access to accurate up-to-date information. How does this guy, how does he say this with a straight face? As $176 million are poured into Moderna's coffers for bird flu vaccine development, that's from July of 24. It's COVID all over again. Who would have guessed it? Who would have guessed it? Well, I mean, again, Bill Gates did. The World Economic Forum did. You know, they were fighting disinformation during the election. They said that was the number one threat. But I bet if we check, I bet bird flu or some sort of pandemic

is back at the top of the charts. You know what's funny with a bullet. You know what's funny in his proclamation. He actually confirms that he says there have been no documented instances of human to human transmission to date. Yeah. While the risks to the public remain low, yeah, I'd say like almost at this point, unbelievably low, like zero, because you've never, you've had chicken to farmer transmission, but not farmer to farmer or human to human because animals are people too. When I say farmer, there could be some monkeys on the loose. In Florida, oh my gosh, I never thought of that. All of those monkeys, if you had monkeys will mysteriously start popping up in neighborhoods on your bingo card for this year, you might be a big winner. I didn't have that on my bingo card, but apparently

in Florida, monkeys have become a problem. And they're saying, if one of them is, you know, is at, I'm not kidding, I'm not making this up, if one of them is at your window or your door, don't open it. That's, you know, that's, that's pretty good advice. I didn't think I needed that. But then again, I didn't think I'd see monkeys at my door, you know, so what do I know? Anyway, back to California where things truly make sense. the governor's office said 34 cases of bird flu in humans have been detected in California.

Okay, 34 cases of, have you heard about all those horrible, horrible deaths of the 34 people that caught the bird flu? Yeah, but do you know, when I saw the report, it looked like they'd taken a magic eraser and just scrubbed out COVID and put bird flu. So they have some similarities those deaths do that just, you know, we should believe everything these government officials tell us. us, Glenn. We shouldn't, we shouldn't question anything. You're right. You're right. It's horrible. And I'll bet it, I'm going to say this. And I'm going to say it. I'm not saying it behind their back. They just refuse to listen, okay, to radio. I bet it comes from the Amish. I bet the Amish milk is somehow or another. I bet the birds with a cough or the sniffles are pecking the udders of the Amish cows. And it's going in

to raw milk and those damn Amish people are spreading this cow milk bird flu all over the one guy in Louisiana. It's got to be the answer. Let's get to government on them. Let's all get together and say enough with the Amish. You're making a joke right now, but truly on his proclamation, I'm reading it right now. He talks about reducing raw dairy product contamination. He actually is going after the raw milk. Oh, my God.

Let me address you. If you're living in California, okay, let me just... Why? Really like the weather? Yeah, yeah. I love the weather in California. I've always wanted to live in California. It was my dream to work at KFMB in San Francisco.

Always wanted to live... Since a kid, I wanted to live in... But at some point, I sobered up. I went into Alcoholics Anonymous. And I realized, well, that's a really bad idea. What are you doing in California? Get out while you can. Take it from Liz.

What was it, Liz, that you, was the final, final straw? Was it the park? Or what was it that you went, I can't do it anymore? Truly, the tipping point for me leaving California was the fact that we left in November of 2020 because I was six months pregnant. And I was like, wait a second, we can't raise a child in California safely and to be a good and holy person. I as a parent don't feel like I have rights over my child. And so we packed up our stuff and out we went. You don't. So may I recommend if you're living in California, get pregnant. We'll sober you up quickly. Even if you're a man get pregnant. Because in California,

we know men can get pregnant. So get pregnant right away. you'll sober up and you'll get your ass to Texas. Now, if you're in California, you're like, this sucks. I want to vote exactly the same way because I'm completely clueless as what's causing all of these problems in California. I'm going to move to Texas. Stay away from our state. In fact, I'm in Nashville, Tennessee today, and I would just like to say,

you're starting to wreck Nashville. Bill. Get out of our states. You know, I personally have no problem with real estate agents when they see the number come up and it's like, oh, it's a California area code not answering the phone. We're saying, man, all of our listings have just burned in a horrible fire while we were losing our guns in the lake. gosh, I don't have a problem with that. I really don't. You know, Liz, I found out that Melinda Gates was looking at a house in my neighborhood. Melinda Gates, I about had a heart attack. I feel like the sound of the Wicked Witch of the West is like coming in behind us.

It was. It really was. All the neighbors meant they're like, we gotta stop this. How do we stop? Yeah, pull your money, buy the house out from under her, prevent her from moving in. We were ready. We were ready. But anyway, back to Gavin Newsom, who is the Justin Trudeau of Canada? And I think what's happening to Justin Trudeau is in the future of Gavin Newsom.

I don't know if you, you know, Gavin Newsom has a favorability rating now of 12. For anybody who said, oh, Donald Trump's the pariah of the world. he didn't have an approval rating of 12 he had an approval rating of what was his lowest like 38 38 that's that's the Himalayas compared to a rating of 12 and in Canada that's like eight people anyway there's a new song out

that I think it's our responsible I don't like making fun of Canada but I do like making fun of dictators and because they hate it so much. I would like to encourage any of the radio stations near, you know, Detroit, crank this one up. Maybe they can hear it in Canada and any Canadian radio station with any balls whatsoever. And I know that you have all kinds of government limits on you, but if you have any Cajonis at all, you'd be playing this song for your audience by the guy who started Five for Fighting.

Yes, indeed. Here's the new song from John Andrassic. Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he never played hockey. Justin Trudeau has got to go. Stam clear he never played hockey Totalitarian Parliamentarians They have no mind to skate

Their only love their hate They'll freeze your bank account The Mounties they won't mount To trample on your rights Like Fidel Justin Trudeau Then Trudeau is rather slow. It's too bad he never played hockey.

Like a great one. This potato has got to go get someone who played hockey. He likes to arrest Jews while wearing Taylor's shoes the black base Bolshevik with no With never last one shift, he wouldn't shake your hand after a seventh game. He has no honor code like Tidomi. And Bob Pro Canada, he's not part of a team.

He's wimpy and he's mean. He's the emergency, the true North strong and free. and free. He never ate a puck. He doesn't give a truck. A goody how had trick. The thought wouldn't make him sick. If he just scored one goal, his heart would have a soul and understand assists are more than shots that miss. And no humility, freedom, liberty. It's more than just the game God save us Justin Trudeau

wants you to know he never played hockey Like the great one Justin Trudeau has got to go Yet someone who played hockey Honodressing, he is fabulous. All right, let me take a quick break,

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I didn't want to vomit blood anymore. I was perfectly calm. And all of that was transferred right directly to her as she walked out on stage. couple of notes. You could tell she was very, very nervous. And then she just, she just nailed it. And was fantastic. She opened last night. They don't ever do this for King and Country, but they allowed her to open last night. They've got two other nights now at the Grand Ole Opry. If you've never seen them, this is their Christmas show. If you've never seen them live, it's almost as if you haven't seen a concert. They are so in.

incredible. I saw them in Kansas City about four months ago, three months ago. And then I saw him again last night. Different show. This is all Christmas. And it is so good. One of them brings his wife up on stage. And she's a, I think she's a Latin country singer. She's unbelievable. This talent is like riddled in this family. Anyway, for King and Country, thank you, as my daughter said on stage last night for making a little girl's dream come true. All right. So let's see. What else do we have to talk about?

Oh, Trump, I think Trump is now leading something that is becoming very apparent even to the Republicans. Notice I didn't say conservatives. I said Republicans. The Johnson year-end spending bill, wow, did that go down in flames? I mean, I could see my daughter on stage from the Rockets Red Glare coming out of Washington, D.C. on that bill.

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But what we have to remember is, even though Donald Trump is coming in and he's going to make massive changes, Biden buried us in debt and deficits and then set booby traps to go off. They're still setting them all over in the government. It's going to take us a while to dig out of that. And if there's any surprises along the way, I would not be surprised. surprises. The best time to prepare for uncertainty is right now. Your dollar is going to crater at some point. Please, now is the time to get in to gold. It is a safe haven for you and your family. If you trust the stock market, stock market hasn't made sense in a very long, long time. It's because they've been printing money. As we go into this massive change, there are going to be

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Anyway, let me, let me go back to Donald Trump and really you, X, you, you. talk radio and Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are the ones that killed this horrible bill in Congress yesterday. And I haven't heard an official it's dead, but everybody that I've talked to say, oh, it's not coming back. And Donald Trump said, I want a clean continuing resolution. I don't want any, there's no ornaments on this tree. None. Pass this and just keep the government functioning. Nothing else. That's exactly what they should have done the first time. There is a great article at glenbeck.com, the deep state's new plan to backstab Donald Trump.

If you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year, because there's this attitude right now, and I don't know if you've sensed this, Liz Wheeler, but there is this attitude that, oh, who, Trump selected. And that's exactly what we did in 2016. And you saw what we got four years of. later. Now we brought this change and we're here and people are thinking it's fixed. I talked to Lear Capital and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in, you know, emergency, you know,

and things like, hey, back up your money. And they said on election day, they can see phone calls, phone calls, phone calls, election, nothing. And that's what happened in 2016. And I have to tell you, please don't do this again. There is so much to clear. And we're only at the beginning. That wasn't the end. It feels peaceful now. But believe me, political war is going to be turned up to 11. So please don't rest on your laurels and think everything is okay. It's good. We can be positive, but let's not deceive ourselves. Do you agree with that, Liz?

I think we are very different than we were four years ago. I hope so. Or eight years ago, I should say. Trump is very different in the sense that he understands how the deep state operates. You can see this in the way that he speaks. You can see this in the policies that he's presenting. You can see this in who he's surrounding himself with, advisors and cabinet nominations. But we are very different, too, because complacency can be our worst enemy.

It certainly, I would argue, has been in the last 50, 60 years. This is not a recent thing. But yesterday should prove that we know what we're doing this time differently than the last time, too. We understand that we have a role not just in casting our ballots, not just in the lead up to an election, making an argument for a candidate, but being an intricate part. of every minute detail of a transition and administration. And I've never seen this. Maybe you have seen this. I have never seen this before to this level in my entire political life.

And I don't think people are planning on stopping that. Yesterday was an example of us doing it better. I saw it in 1980 because we were in a similar situation, but not as bad as we are now with Jimmy Carter. And so I saw it back then. and it lasted for a while. It lasted improbably until, oh, maybe 90. It lasted a decade.

If we can get a decade out of this, that would be great. We need 12 years to be able to really make an impact. And we need 12 years of the Republicans in the House and the Senate. If you don't get that, it's going to be a lot harder to do this. We have to reverse everything. And, you know, there's two stories in the – Washington Examiner, both of which I enjoyed and think are something you should read. That's why we put them in our morning newsletter at glenbeck.com, which is free, by the way,

sign up for it. The Washington Examiner has two stories in, and I agree with both, but I want to caveat on these. The first story is really great. It's about wiping the smile off Barack Obama's face. And it ends. In 2016, the then-President Barack Obama mocked in a tweet in which Trump called him perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States in 2016. That's what President Trump said.

Obama said, at least I will go down as a president and then had the little mic drop, you know. Okay. All right. Well, he did too. In fact, he's going down as one of the only presidents who have ever lost a second term and then won it because you, because let's be honest, Barack. this is your administration. This was you. This wasn't Joe Biden. This was you and your people and all the people you trust to transform the United States of America. And finally, you have been defeated. So I, you know, gosh, I hate to point it out, but you are going to start losing your image. And you already have. People are starting to go, wait a minute, I don't think Barack Obama was who I thought he was. Then there's another story in Washington Examiner that you need to read, a conservative comeback in the culture war.

And it is so satisfying. And I think so true. It says over the preceding 21 months, this is talking about how, you know, the culture had completely changed. And Joy Reid came out on MSNBC and she said, you know, the John Wayne era is over. the right literally can't win. Cultural progression is relentless. Once people get a taste of modernity, they almost never go back willingly. Okay, so she had a right to be hubris at that point because they were wiping the floor with us.

Honestly, in October, gang, let's all remember, we thought the country could be over. We didn't know who our neighbors even were. And we said to each other at that time, if this country votes for more of this, then they don't understand liberty in the Constitution. They don't want it anymore. Well, they didn't. And I think part of that is because God came to the rescue and did the things that we couldn't do. But we did do the things that we could do. And that is, get out and vote.

But he held the, quite honestly, the judgment back from us so we could go out and vote. Now God has done his part. We know he's not neutral in this. He's done his part by saving Donald Trump from assassination. We went out and vote. Now God's saying, okay, so what are you going to do with it? And if we piss it away and think that Donald Trump, God bless him, I think he's amazing. He is not the same man.

He has the possibility. And I used to hate when people said this about anybody. Or he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln. I'm telling you he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln, but only if we do our part. And the thing about that article in The Examiner is, please let's let's not get cocky. Come on, Luke, don't get cocky, kid.

Don't do it. Leads to bad things. Liz? It reminds me, I feel like we're in one of those Dr. Franklin moments where he says, Madam, a republic, if you can keep it. Yes. It's this moment where we have this great celebration because something tremendous and extraordinary just happened.

We have just freed ourselves from the oppressors. And we should take a moment and say, wow, We should bask in the enormity of that moment, but also we should understand that, like a marriage, not being the end of a courtship, it is the beginning of an adventure. That is where we are in this cultural battle, too. The work and the adventure are now beginning. Remember, it was common sense that brought us to the Declaration of Independence, literally and figuratively. Thomas Payne brings us to the Declaration of Independence. And everybody was a Sunshine Patriot. Everybody was on board.

They were so excited by Christmas after that happened in July of the same year. By Christmas, the whole thing seemed to be over. Everybody had lost hope and he wrote the American crisis. Sunshine Patriots, yeah, you're of no use. Where are the winter soldiers? So we're right now at that first part, common sense. We did it. Yeah, common sense wins.

But it's going to get tough. And we're going to need the winter soldiers. All right, back in just a minute. I want to talk to you about American Giant. What is happening in our country is so important. And it's going to be hard work. We need to build the factories again. We need to build manufacturing again here in America.

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This is the Glenn Beck program. Barry Loudermilk's going to be with us. He's a congressman from Georgia who's been investigating January 6th and everything else. He's got a lot to say coming up in just a minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. I'm Glenn Beck along with Liz Wheeler, who is joining me today. Glenn, we have video, we've just gotten video of your daughter, Cheyenne, performing last night at the grand old Opry. This is actually a backstage video, if we could play this first.

Why haven't even seen this? That shows how, it's so darling, that shows how nervous she has. Take a look at this. All right. David, here we go. Hi. Standing in the circle. Oh my goodness.

Do they have anything from her singing at all? Yeah. I like it. Look at that stage. So great. All right. Anyway. She looks like a pro.

I know. She just looks so elegant and so poised. She was wonderful. I have to tell you, have you ever been to the Grand Alopry? I have not. It is, I've, I've played a lot. lot of theaters myself. And by the way, I can say I sung at the Grand Ole Opry. I stood in the circle and saying happy birthday before there was a crowd. But anyway, it is the nicest theater and the

best concert venue I think I've ever been in. It's going to be a hundred next year, 100, the Grand Opry, 100 years of broadcast, longest broadcast ever in the history of the world. And the backstage stage is like a museum. It's like all of these things from, you know, 1925 all the way to today of country music. Everybody should go to be able to see just the back of the house. It's unbelievable. And I told the guys yesterday, I was talking to the security guys. And I said, I got to play. Do you ever take speaking things? And they're like, yeah, occasionally. And I said, I got to come. I haven't been in Nashville for a long time. I got to come to Nashville and do, we're going to do an event at the Grand Ole Opry because my daughter's been on that stage, but I haven't. Was she walking on clouds

after she came down? Oh my gosh. She got off. She was, she was, I mean, all of her adrenaline was gone. She had been burning adrenaline for two days. But she was so happy and pleased and humbled, big time humbled. But the best part of the night is I was sitting towards. I was sitting towards. the front, but I was in front of a big aisle. And before these people were coming up and taking pictures with me and, you know, talking to me and blah, blah, blah. And after she sang during intermission, she had changed clothes and she was sitting next to me. And this one woman bumped into me like, get out of my way, loser. And went right for my daughter and said, I've never heard of you before.

this is you were so great can I get a selfie with you and I was like oh you can trample me all day long it was such a cool experience to see somebody ask for my daughter to ask for a selfie with my daughter it was just so cool that wasn't a creepy guy look at this proud papa have you ever seen someone absolutely he's going to burst buttons off of his shirt today he's so proud did Glenn did you cry cool uh twice Twice. And she only sang two songs. And so I cried all through the first one and through the second one. As you should. Yeah, it was just so amazing. I kept seeing her as that five-year-old in the little ballet outfit with mom and I sitting in the audience going, smile. Smile!

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Well, hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We have Congressman Very Loudermilk on. He has, well, he's pushing for Liz Cheney to not just be investigated. That's already happened. But maybe be tried for the things she did and others. did on the January 6th scandal. He released a report yesterday that is scathing and not stunning if you didn't have faith in our government and, you know, our Congress and our system of justice. But if you did have faith in that, this is stunning. And Barry joins us in 60 seconds.

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the House GOP head of the committee looking in to January 6 says Liz Cheney should be investigated for witness tampering. That's what he came out with yesterday. They've been doing an investigation, but there's a lot more to it. Barry, welcome to the program.

Lynn, thanks for having me on A. And thank you for covering this. So many media outlets won't even touch anything with January 6, but you've been very consistent with it. I have to tell you, I was at my, I was at, I don't want to get really specific because it might hurt them. I was at a place of business. Somebody I know who's completely rational, big business person, they happened to be in Washington that day. They were outside of the Capitol.

They did nothing. And they were just charged with six felonies. And I said, what's on, what's on the videotape? And they said, we did nothing. We did nothing. We happened to be there, but we didn't do anything. And it's gone crazy, Barry. It has absolutely gone crazy.

So, you know, when you look into these things, what do you think the biggest discovery or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and verified? Well, talk about with Liz Cheney. I think it's the tremendous failures in several areas of our government and then the subsequent cover up to try to cover up their failure. And people just closing their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything when it was a massive failure on several fronts. And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've been. made this point in the report is the FBI will go to great links using video footage to find a grandma who goes into the capital praise and then leaves or someone like the person you were

talking about who just happened to be out there and charged them with crimes. But yet they have no idea who placed the pipe bombs. That's not true. And part of that is because they pulled resources away from that investigation. And then as we released in this report, they lied about the evidence that they had or supposedly had regarding the pipe bomber. They told us that, well, the identity of the pipe bomber is within a data that we received from a major cell phone carrier that was corrupt. And then we couldn't, we couldn't get it because it was that not true? That turned out to be a lie. No, it is not. Oh, my gosh. We've been investigating that. Obviously, it's, it's kind of easy to find who the perpetrators are now because they all

retired recently once we started this investigation. You've seen a lot of retirement. This was the field office director here in Washington, D.C., told the select committee on January 6th, well, we were investigating and we subpoenaed all the major carriers, but one carrier, the data they provided us was corrupted, and we, that's the data that the pipe bomber would be it. So we took that. We went to the three major carriers, asked them all, and we kind of and knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because we wanted to see what we could find out. All three of them said, yes, we were subpoenaed by the FBI. We did provide data. All three of them said the FBI never came back to us and asked for the data again, tell us it was corrupted.

And then the last question I asked was, do you still have the data? And all of them said, yes, we keep data for every major event. In fact, the one carrier said, we still have all the data from the Oklahoma City bombing. Oh my gosh. So that agent absolutely lied because he said the state was corrupted and we couldn't get it because it was no longer available. This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of special investigations?

I think you're right. I can't verify that. Okay. I think you may be right, but what gets me. is, okay, they put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to all links to find anyone who is around the Capitol. That is not an equal application of the law. You know, it's also interesting. They didn't even investigating, according to your report, they did no investigation into who constructed the gallows. Tell me about that.

So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to except for the Democrats, because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this, this campaign for the Democrats was going to be run on January 6th. That was what they had. They totally messed the economy up. They totally blew our standing nationally. We became, you know, we were a big national security risk. Basically, this administration was a complete failure. The only thing they could run on was January 6th and that Donald Trump is a traitor to our country. We systematically dismantled that. But the one thing that they had was the gallows. And they would put the gallows up in their early campaign ads.

Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up. They claim it was people who put it there to hang Mike Pence because he wasn't going to object to the certification of votes. Right. But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what Pence was going to do until 1 o'clock in the afternoon and the gallows was put up at six o'clock of the morning. So how could they have directed on video? And my pencil, nobody knew what he was going to do. Right. So we started looking into because my initial question was, how was that gallows allowed to stay up on capital property

all day long? And even into the evening, you know, you can't put up a little stand on the capital property without a permit. It is immediately taken down. How would the capital police allow that to stay up or the park police, whoever, a gallows, how was it allowed to stay up all day? So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation the FBI did into it. So we looked at our videos, the capital surveillance videos, and we could see where the people carrying the gallows came from. They had a hand truck full of lumber, pulling it.

I think it was up Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenue. So I put a team on this, and they started. at the book and said, all right, let's go to every government building along the street and ask them two questions. One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do? They'll have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten. And the third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video? And the answer, for every one of them was no. Sheesh. Shocking. Spent no time looking into who erected the gallows.

Wow. That's absolutely shocking. clear picture of one of them. So yeah, there was a total, there was a lot of effort put into convictions, but it was only on one side. It was on one side. Congressman Loudermilk, it's Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in today for Stu here at Blaze HQ in Dallas. Question for you, according to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers. Do you know not just that Liz Cheney and her January 6th, Committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data. But do you know the

identity of the pipe bombers? We don't know the identity, but this is being done in coordination with the Judiciary Committee chair by Jim Jordan. And so we've done our part of the report. They're working on their report, their part. I expect it to be released sometime next week. I know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming. But we want to make sure that we get it right. And so, we're compiling all the information they have and we have. And we're not going to identify with this because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of potentially, you know, where they came from. I mean, we were able to track their vehicle that they were in.

The FBI never went and tried to look for. So Congressman, let me ask you this. Let's go back to Liz Cheney here, because you say she should be investigated and possibly tried. I hope if these things are true, I hope every damn one of these people, no matter which side they're on, are put in jail. Is it, have you found enough to have a reasonable grand jury say, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be a trial? And can you get it out of Washington, D.C., which will never be a fair trial? Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch.

And I've said all along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the current Department of Justice. We have a new Department of Justice coming in. Yes. So we are, this is one of the reasons we're making this referral. Let me just real quickly lay the basis of why I'm saying Liz Cheney should be investigated. it because Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness, came in and testified before the select committee twice under oath. The third time, she started changing her first two testimonies, and then the fourth time, she totally came out with all kind of crazy stories, right? This is about trumpet attacking secret service officers, throwing food and chanting that Mike Pence should be hung, okay?

She significantly changed her testimony to the point where she would have committed. and purge her either before or after. What changed? What changed? It was between her first two and the next two that she started communicating directly with Liz Cheney. This is, and Liz even said this is unethical.

So let's just use Liz Cheney's own standards, all right? In July of 2022, Liz Cheney, and we have the video of her doing this in a committee, referred Donald Trump to the Department of Justice to be in investigated for witness tampering because he said Trump tried to contact a witness. He wasn't successful. He only tried to contact a witness.

So they assumed it was witness tampering and they referred him to the Department of Justice. Now let's compare what her standards to what she did. Cheney did communicate with a witness. Didn't just try, did. And even acknowledged that it was at least unethical to do so. Oh my God. after their communication did change their testimony. And according to Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney and that

Liz Cheney did help her find a new one. And then Liz Cheney did try to have Defon Pascentino, who was her first attorney, tried to get him disbarred and basically tried to ruin his life. So now just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness. he should be investigated versus what she actually did and we have it documented that she did these things. This is why we're recommending the Department of Justice investigate her for witness tampering. It's not tip for tat. I'm just saying if she laid the standard that just trying to make a phone call is witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.

If honestly, I said this during the Trump, you know, impeachment hearings when they filed those, I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth. The same thing with COVID. I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, six or eight months into it. We did an honest investigation. And I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may. Just seek the truth. And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to jail.

Either side. If you were at January 6 and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing through the windows, you know, and, you know, hitting police officers, etc., yet probably you should go to jail. You should be a fair trial, but you should go to jail. But not the innocent. And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty look innocent should also go to jail. Barry, I've got one more question. Do you have time to hang for just, just one? minute?

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Congressman Barry Laudermilk is with us now. Congressman, I'd like to know how engaged is Cash Patel in this? Are you briefing him? Is that coming? Has he been involved in any of this along the way of knowing where the bodies are buried? Or is he to start January 20th?

No, he's been involved. He's been following the work we've been doing. We haven't had direct communications until recently. And one of the reasons is when I took this on, when then Speaker McCarthy asked me to take on this project, I told him I would do it under two conditions. One, you give me the resources to conduct a real investigation, not a politically driven one, and that I would do it from an unbiased standpoint. Just as you were saying earlier, if people did bad, regardless of which political side they're on, we'll report it. I'm just going to get to the truth. And so we didn't want to have any collusion in any other area.

But as truth started coming out, and especially after the election, and just leading up to it, cash had been engaged with us as far as the reports were sending out and asking some questions. So he has been following our work very closely, as I know the Mar-a-Lago has recently, and getting geared up because I think they're very interested to make sure that justice is done equally. Let me ask you, Congressman, in your report, you say that there was information that was withheld from Liz Cheney and her committee's final report, in addition to the fact that there was a terabyte of data that was somehow deleted. It was just expunged from existence.

Do you know what, A, what information was withheld from that final report that would have painted a very different picture? And do you have any way of accessing the deleted data? Well, to answer the second question, well, the question about what was missing, yes, we know what was missing. And it's, we're releasing it publicly. Just to give you an example, it was any witness testimonies that exonerated Trump or did not line up with Cassidy Hutchinson. So for instance, Cassidy in her fourth testimony, comes up with these elaborate stories like the Trump trying to take the steering wheel of the, the SUV. As soon as she said that within days, they had that emergency televised hearing where they paraded her in front of the entire world and she told these stories.

They took no effort to corroborate those stories. All you had to do was subpoena the Secret Service driver and ask him these questions, which they did after the midterm elections months later. So when they finally called the Secret Service agent in to testify, they never even asked him about this incident. He had to insert it himself and they tried to stop him from saying it.

It's a kangaroo court. And everybody else's testimony that was different than hers, those testimonies were sent away. As far as deleted documents, we know that they got rid of all the videotapes of all the testimonies. And some of those could have exonerated like Stefan Pissentino. Unbelievable. Congressman, thank you for the hard work that you guys are doing on. this. Thanks for seeking the truth and nothing but the truth. And hopefully, justice will come.

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And it was a story that I wrote for my kids originally. And it's a story of the made up part of Christmas. St. Nicholas, well, St. Nicholas is actually real, but Santa. And I tried, I didn't want to be the, you know, you can't talk about Santa kids, it's Christmas. I didn't want to be that guy. But I also didn't want my kids to be talking about Santa and not understanding the Christmas story. And so it's called the immortal Nicholas, and it takes you through the Christmas story and explains Santa's eternal nature, if you will. It's really my best effort to try to make sense of this time of the year.

But there are so many parts of the Christmas story that we don't know or we don't really think about. And one of that is the three wise men. What were they doing leading up to the birth of the child? Who were they? When did they actually arrive? Because they weren't in Bethlehem. And so we have Dr. Wave Nunnally. He is Evangelel University professor.

Is that how you say it? Evangel of early Judaism. Go ahead. Yes, Evangelian University. Evangelian University. And are you Jewish or are you Christian? I am not Jewish. I am Christian.

Okay. And you're over in Israel, right? I have been recently, but have now half a at home here in the United States. Okay. So, so you know really the real history of what that was like back in that time. Who were the wise men and why are they important and what were they doing? So the wise men are important, but they actually, Glenn, they don't show up at the birth of Jesus. Right.

According to Matthew 2, verse 16, we're told that Herod killed the babies two years old. and under according to the time that he had ascertained from the wise men. And so these guys are actually getting on the scene at least a year and a half, up to two years after the birth. And so really the only true birth narrative that we have is in the gospel of Luke rather than Matthew. Right. And so the wise men, how did they know each other?

What were they doing? where they were kings what did that even mean back then yeah very good question um and the reason for me is because so many people uh see them the Greek word is Magoy uh it's where we get the word magistrate or magnificent or magnanimous M-A-G and uh it basically in Greek and in the classical Greek authors they're using that for very important people but for whatever reason, modern scholars have turned them into sorcerers, astrologers, diviners, and that kind of thing. And it really throws people for a loop because, A, what of sorcerers, diviners, and astrologers do it at the birth of Jesus? And then why do we never hear about them repenting and renouncing the black arts and then embrace Jesus as the true way?

So who were they, actually? Well, there is a use of that word Magoi, Magi, for Persian astrologers. But there's also a version of that word that says, these are really great men, you know, like magnificent. They're great men or they're very important men. I wrote part of a book back in 2004 where I suggested that these guys were. more than likely members of the Jewish community in Babylon, and that they were following, not just astrology, they were following a Bible passage, Numbers chapter 24, verse 17, that says that a star is going to arise from Jacob and a scepter from Israel,

scepter meaning rule. And so they're looking for the new development in their Judaism. possibly they could have been representatives of the huge Jewish community that was in Parthia, Babylon, were coming to Jerusalem to try to get their heads around. What is this new development in the history of redemption? Professor, I have a question. This is Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in for Sue today. You say that there's not necessarily historical substantiation for the fact that the three wise men were astrologers.

I find that fascinating because just like any part of history, the left likes to try to rewrite Christian history. Do you know when that narrative that the three wise men were sorcerers or into the dark arts? When did that emerge in that narrative emerge in history? It's actually beginning in the second and third centuries AD, early church fathers, kind of like the disciples of the disciples of the apostles. they're beginning to suggest this as early as, you know, 100, 200 years after the time of Jesus. So it's really a long, it has a longstanding history as one approach to trying to understand who these people were.

By the way, there probably weren't three of them. That also shows up, not in the New Testament, but in much later writings. And more than likely, there were lots of them because, A, you don't travel, in small groups, especially the kind of journey that those guys had to take over 9,000 miles to get to the land of Israel. And across a desert on the trade route at a time when there was sort of like a cold war going on between the empire of Rome and the empire of Parthia. And then you have all kinds of highwaymen that could have done them harm. so you don't travel as a small group.

It was more than likely a dozen or more, maybe dozens who were traveling. And they got the attention of Herod the Great immediately because these people are stale mate in their to one another. And these guys show up speaking a different language, dressed differently, and they're asking a question that bugs the heck out of him. And that is, where is he who has been born, not appointed by Rome, like Herod, the great was, but born king of the Jews. Wow. So let me go back to the beginning here with Joseph and Mary. What do we, what do we get wrong or what do we not know about who they were? Joseph and Mary, I think in Christian tradition, have kind of been idealized to the point that when

you see them in pictures, they have halos and, you know, they're just like, super duper people that are perfect and the like, but they're normal people like you and me. And the things that the Bible does tell us about Mary and Joseph, we tend to kind of look over because our idealized picture is so wonderful and beautiful. Like what? In Matthew 2, verse 19, Joseph is described as a person who is de kios. It's a Greek word that means righteous. But you put that back into Hebrew. He was a righteous person.

How do you say that in Hebrew? He was a Tadik. And this puts him in an elite category already in his world, in his culture, that says that he goes above and beyond what God expects. And he is very well versed in the Bible, and he is very much Torah observant. So how when his wife says to him? him, by the way, I'm pregnant. If he's really, really devout, that's got to be a hard one to swallow right off the bat. Yeah, it really is because not in not in the law of Moses, but in the laws of the rabbis, he's got to split a hair between two opposing requirements.

One is you never put a fellow Israelite open to shame. It's it's all but murder. And people who do that go to hell and have no chance of redemption. The other side of it is, though, that the rabbis required that if you were in a state of betrothal and your wife became pregnant by one of your friends, then you were required to divorce her. So what does Joseph do? He splits that hair perfectly and he decides to divorce her privately. It's right there in the Bible, And it's absolutely amazing how textured this narrative is, how closely connected it is, to the Judaism of the land of Israel in the first century. Doesn't this give you also a different look at, you know, people who say, ah, the Christmas story or the, you know, the birth and everything, it's not real? We know that the apostles were Jews, and it was supposed to go to the apostles.

the Gentiles, but it was also supposed to go to the Jews as well. And this would have been a death sentence for the story right off the bat, that they were betrothed. She was pregnant, and that's the godhead, the baby, the result? Wouldn't that just be, I mean, that would be horrible to say in that society, right? It is a very difficult situation that these people find themselves in. Maybe that's the reason God chose such incredibly well-prepared people for the task. You ask about Mary. Mary was a person who's described as a favored one by Gabriel. She's a virgin, and, you know, that's important in that culture. She had kept her integrity. It also calls her, she calls herself, a bond slave or a bond servant of the Lord twice, and she's, she's

She quotes scripture by heart, and she goes above and beyond, like Joseph, the requirements of the Torah, because they went, according to the Gospel of Luke, chapter 2, verse 41. Every Passover, she went from Galilee to Jerusalem, and women were not required to keep that law. Men, yes, but women know. And so you've got both of these people. They're sold out. They're in this all the way. 100%.

And that's one of the, I think those are among the reasons why God picked those people as opposed to maybe some less committed folks. We're talking to Wave Nuttly about the Christmas story. And if you'll hang on just a couple of minutes, I want to know about the tax thing because you'll learn, historians will tell you, they didn't tax like that. That didn't happen. There's no reason. That's just the writers of the Bible trying to get. them to Bethlehem. And I'd love to hear your work on that and your knowledge on that about the taxes. We'll get to that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Lear Capital.

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We're with Evangel, University professor of early Judaism, Dr. Wave Nannali. Doctor, the idea that they had to go to Bethlehem

to register for the tax, I've heard from so many scholars. That didn't happen. Did that happen? I believe that did, Glenn. We have evidence from a first century Jewish author named Josephus Flavius, and he records census activity taking place in the eastern Mediterranean at this very time. There are some small differences between his account and Luke's account of the census,

but we've definitely got census activity going on, and there's a reason for it. Augusta Caesar had embarked on this thing called the Pax Romana, the Roman imposed peace, and he's building the first set of interstate highways all over the world to deploy his troops, and he's trying to rid the Mediterranean of piracy. And for all of those kinds of things, building projects, et cetera, he's got to have money. And so he's raising it wherever he can. It's amazing. It's always good to talk to people who actually know and have spent their life studying this.

Thank you so much, doctor. I appreciate it. Hey, you're very welcome. I'm just, I want to congratulate you on taking on topic and sticking to the facts. Can I tell you a super quick story? Real quick, yep. Real quick. I was in Israel as I often am in teaching a study group, and we were at the church of the Annunciation in Nazareth. And this lady said, look, after you've taken away all the myth and all the legend and no Christmas trees and no tiny Tim and no little drummer boy

corner, what do you, what are you left with? And the answer was, another person in the group was, I guess, just Jesus. And that's what Christmas really is about. It is. It is. Thank you. Dr. Wave Nunnally, you can find him at waivenunnelly.com. Hello, America. It's the Glenn Beck program.

Filling in for Stu is Liz Wheeler from the Liz Wheeler show. Clever title. It's almost not as good as the Glenn Beck program. You see what we did there? We changed show to program. Anyway, Liz Wheeler Show, you can hear it on Blaze TV and watch it on Blaze TV or on her YouTube channel. And she has been of great help, really smart. I mean, not as smart as all of us.

Me, not included, but she's great. And we're going to talk to her some more about what's going on in the world here in just a second. But we also have the story. You know the movie, A Christmas Story? originally written by radio legend, Gene Shepard. It apparently has all kinds of hidden Easter egg kind of parables in it. We know because the guy who used to teach storytelling with Gene Shepard is on with us. And we're going to talk about that coming up in just a second.

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He's Calvin University Professor of K. communications. I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally, well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication. But this guy we're having on, he is not only a meritus professor of communications, he's taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller ever on radio. Welcome, Quentin. How are you? Wow. Thanks so much, Glenn. You know, that was the thing. I was a new professor of communication, and generally, professor with a Ph.D. means piled higher and deeper.

And so in this case, I thought, you know, storytelling is the most potent form of human expression. No question about it. And I thought, who out there is the best storyteller that I could learn from firsthand, because that's the way you really learn. I looked at the textbooks and all forget it. and I had known of Gene Shepard. We shared a hobby called Ham Radio. I listened to him on W.R. Radio for years. And so I looked up his call letters and his home address through the FCC directory, and I said, dear Mr. Shepard, I'm a wet behind the ears communication professor,

and I want to learn storytelling, would you teach me? And lo and behold, he wrote back, he couldn't believe that a professor was actually going to him. you know, most professors are not humble enough to ask their people. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he said, yeah, let's do it. So we began corresponding and all, and then I invited him to teach with me. And as far as I know, except for the director of a Christmas story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing,

how he told stories, and what he was doing in the movie, A Christmas Story, he wrote the script for it. And let me just tell you, Glenn, what he taught me, He absolutely blew my mind. It revolutionized my teaching. It revolutionized my relationships with people to be able to tell stories really well. And it was stunning. And the number one thing I learned from him is that every one of his stories is a parable, a parable.

In other words, it works on two levels. There's the entertainment level, and you say, that's a funny story. Look at that guy with his leg lamp there. Oh, ho, ho, you know. But then I'm talking to Gene. and I said, Gene, what about that leg lamp thing, man? What about it? I just don't quite get that one. It's a parable. Come on. What are you talking about, man? He says, Quinn, that leg lamp is a trophy wife. I said, what? He said, yeah, it's a trophy wife. The old man falls in love with becomes obsessed with that leg lamp that he pulls out of the carton that arrives. And right away, he's smitten by it. And he's in love. And he said he wants to go put it in the front window. For what reason?

Wow. The turn on the neighborhood. And so Gene explained to me that in his worldview, guys are incurably romantic toward women or secondarily other things. Could be cars, could be rifles, could be other technology, and they fall in love. And they get so smitten by these other things that it interferes with their relationship. relationships. So mom knew when she saw what was going on with the old man in that leg lamp,

that she was going to have to do something. She was going to have to get this, Glenn, end the affair by breaking the lamp. It will be a Christmas story. One is number two in my book of 20 parables, which is called curtail your obsessions. And it applies especially to men. Unbelievable. You're so good. Professor, this is Liz Wheeler. I'm sitting in for Stu today. When we were talking about having you on right before the program, I was like, oh, he styles himself as a storyteller. Please, I'm waiting to be impressed. I was engrossed in your story.

Tell me, so that's number two on the list. What's number one? I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I love when there's hidden messages and parables and Easter eggs and stories. What are some other ones? Yeah, one of my favorites is what I call tackle your technology. Now, Gene Shepard believed that human needs. beings, particularly men, create technologies, but they can never fully control what they create. So the technologies always get out of hand, and things happen that were unexpected, and they

break down. And, you know, he and I shared this hobby, Ham Radio. So we would talk about our rigs, as we call them, going bad. But he's got this wonderful thing in the movie with the furnace downstairs. So the old man is sitting there, you know, enjoying at the kitchen table where the family really happens. Their relationships happen at that table. And he's listening, listening, listening, all of a sudden he hears clink, clink, clink, and he yells, clink, and he yells, puts his gloves on, down the stairs to try to fix that furnace. Now, clinkers were pieces of coal that would not burn

fully, and they were still hard, and they would fall to the bottom of the furnace, furnace, and go clink, clink, clink, and they were really frustrating. And so he periodically has to go down there to try to fix the furnace. Well, and I'm talking to Gene Shepard, the screenwriter of a Christmas story about this, he says to me, Quinn, that's my nickname Quinn, he says, you know that the old man runs down the stairs because he's headed toward hell. Going down to the seventh level of Dante's infernal, where with all the soot and all the heat and smoke and everything else, he's going to stare face to face with that demon of a furnace. and he is not going to win the battle.

He said to me, that's the way all technologies are. Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought, we get into trouble. And the more I thought about that, I thought, man, he's brilliant. Another part of that in the movie is the car. The old man has this 1937 old touring sedan. Right. And that sucker would freeze up at the equator in the middle of the summer.

he says. So he's always running outside in the middle of winter to pour hot water on it to try to get it going. And of course he has problems with plugging in the Christmas tree and plugging in the leg lamp. He's blowing fuses all the time, although he could replace those fuses

faster than a jack rabbit on a date. That's another story. And so my favorite, my favorite life lesson from the movie of Christmas story really is, it comes to the four at the end, and Bob Clark was such a great director.

And so there are two scenes at the end, these scenes of reconciliation and peace. One is where the old man and mom are together at the end of the day on Christmas. Mom turns the light off, and the two of them sit down together, and they're touching each other. They're reconciling. I mean, they've been battling over the leg lamp, really, the affair that's going on there. And so they're reconciling, and they're looking out through the window, which is the same window that the leg lamp was in. And you see the snow falling down. By the way, that wasn't really snow.

Those were potato flakes being thrown from the roof because there was no snow. But what's interesting about this also is that Gene pulled on a lot of biblical themes, and the leg lamp gets placed among the plants because Gene said to me that those plants are moms' garters. of Eden that she waters and likes to keep going and keep them green and vibrant. So when the old man takes this tawdry, ugly, humanly concocted leg lamp and puts it right in the middle of the Garden of Eden, and of course the leg lamp itself represents sin in a way because it's an affair obsession he has. She knows he has to break it. So when they're on the sofa together looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside without

out the leg lamp there. And you can give thanks that they have reconciled. It's just so wonderful. Wow. Anything behind the shoot your eye out? Oh, yeah. In fact, I titled my book, You'll Shoot Your Eye Out, because it's the most searched term related to the movie of Christmas story.

Of course, Ralph, he's trying to get the rifle. He goes to his mom. That's not going to work. He goes to Ms. Shields his teacher, and she writes on his theme. P.S. you'll shoot your eye out. Then he goes to Santa and gets into trouble with Santa at the top of the mountain. By the way, that mountain that he climbs up to to pitch Santa, his last resort, remember? It's his last resort. That mountain gene said to me is like going up to petition God. Or on Christmas, you get a lot of kids, and they believe that they can somehow petition Santa and get what they want. And Ralphie doesn't.

doesn't really believe it, but he's going to give it a try. And so he's going to go up there. And then, of course, he gets kind of pushed with Santa's black boot, which they got from a swimming pool company. And Santa says, you'll shoot your eye out, kid. So Gene said to me repeatedly that if there's one big lesson in life to really be careful about, it's our lack of humility as human beings. we do things that cause trouble for ourselves.

Like we would say, you know, you put in your mouth. And so he used that term, you'll shoot your eye out as a way of getting at this. We have to be more humble and be careful and watch out for what we do in life. So it really, that runs throughout the movie in many ways. Man, you should do a commentary on the movie. I'd love to watch the movie with you doing comedy. you just come to my house for Christmas as we watch it because it's unbelievable. Yeah, what's interesting is that I had all these notes and all from teaching with Gene.

He died in 99, and I thought maybe some day I'd write a book about storytelling and him. And the movie, when it came out in 83, did not really do well. Right. And so I thought, well, why write a book if the movie is not going to do well? And every year it sells more and more copies and more people, more people see it 40 to 50 million in the year. U.S. alone, see it every year. And so finally, my wife said to me last year, stop just talking about it and entertaining people at dinner. You got to write the book. So that's what I did, Glenn.

Wow. She must be tired of this story because I know my wife's tired of all my stories. Oh, yeah. All right. Quentin, hang on just a second. I've got to take a one minute break. We'll come back. The name of the book is you'll shoot your eye out. You'll shoot your eye out. It's not just the peribles behind it. It's mainly that, but also he goes into storytelling. And as you can tell, he's a very good storyteller. But he learned from, I think, the best, Gene Shepard. Quentin Schultz, back in just a second. Stand by. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It is Preborn. I feel kind of uncomfortable, but Preborn asked me to tell you that last week

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But it's great now. It is great now. I want to know, is there an overall theme? Is there something that he was trying to. get at in the overall movie? That, well, the way I would put that, Glenn, is that he wanted to reflect back to us the drama, the everyday drama of life, the good and the bad, the ups and the downs, but then end with some grace, some hope.

And so that's how he framed it. That was really his worldview was that human beings get them. into all kinds of trouble. But often we get out of it in spite of ourselves. Right. And so that's what happens. So there are various kinds of redemption and all in it. Even the old man who salivating for that turkey, he just has to have that turkey.

And then when the bumpus hounds come over, and the bumpus hounds, that's another whole part of it. But when they come over and snatch the turkey and the old man is left standing there holding the wing and you wonder, is he going to eat it or what's he going to do? and he drops it. And he says, all right, everybody, get upstairs, get dressed. We are going out to W-L-I-N-G,

but the W is out on the sign. So it's Bowling's Chinese restaurant. And Gene said to me that what he was trying to get at there is the fact that we have to be flexible in life. And he used to tell me that being in the entertainment business that he was in many different media, you had to be flexible because opportunities would open and closed, but he said that's the way life is.

And so he wanted, toward the end of the movie, you showed that the old man could be flexible. And for the benefit of the family, and so they had a great time. By the way, if people don't know, Gene Shepard not only wrote the screenplay, but that's his voice that is doing the voice over the older Ralphie. And Gene had such a good voice, and he knew how to deliver these lines in a way that it really makes the movie sing. Quentin, one last question.

We're up against the network break. Let me ask you if there was, which came first with him, the parable or the story? Yeah. Did he make a list of the parables and then say, I'm going to craft a story, or did he craft a story and then put the parables in? Yeah, it's a great question. In fact, I've never been asked that question before, and if a student had asked that, I'd say, hey, you're on the way to at least C-plus, you know? That's what Ralph he gets. By the way, that's what Gene got in his college creative writing class.

He got a sequel. Wow. Yeah, so the way Gene operated, he'd look around the world, observe the world, see what was going on, make notes about things, find interesting things going on, and he'd say, well, what's the principle behind that? And then he would come up with some principle, like men are incurably romantic, and women are practical and rational. and then he would start to build the stories around those life lessons that he observed. I got to tell you, are you still teaching, aren't you? Part time here and there. Well, I would love to take a class from you.

You have a lot to teach. You're the first communications professor I've ever talked to that I think it boiled it down to the right things. It's all about story. Quentin, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. it. The book is, you'll shoot your eye out. You can get it now. It makes a great Christmas gift. You should go get the book and then watch the movie after you've read the book with your family. It's so great.

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Buy one copy, get one free at glenbeckchchristmas.com. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Holy cow. You want real disruption? There is a new suggestion on who should be the House speaker when Trump gets into office. Liz Wheeler is here. Liz? This is from Senator Rand Paul.

he posted on X this morning. This was at 6.30 a.m. He says the Speaker of the House need not be a member of Congress. Nothing would disrupt the swamp more than electing Elon Musk. Think about it. Nothing's impossible. Not to mention the joy at seeing the collective establishment, a.k.a. Uniparty lose their ever-loving minds.

You imagine that? I mean, he's not going to do it. I mean, well, he seems to have time. I kind of think he would if he was asked. If it was a serious thing, I bet he would. Wouldn't that be amazing? Would that be? Yeah, it would be.

It would be so disruptive. It would be a great thing. It would also be the most effective Congress, probably in our lifetimes, because, Elon, I mean, think about the effort that he made during the campaign and the effort that he made during this spending bill. I mean, he had a huge impact, not only just by giving us X as a platform, but him speaking out and saying, no, we should end this deal. This is criminal. this is awful. I mean, imagine saying that to like Adam Schiff. You know, oh, and you know how little Adam Schiff would feel standing with Elon Musk in a room. I've always said we need business people running the country that understand business,

that they understand the ethics and the principles behind the Declaration and Constitution. But we need business people. We don't need more lawyers. If you've ever worked for a firm outside of an attorney firm that's run by lawyers, you know what a nightmare it is and you're never going to accomplish anything because they're there to say no. Now, the opposite, it's weird. In Washington, they're there to just say yes to everything. But we need business people. Look at who we have involved in this government now. Donald Trump, known as the American businessman and,

and Elon Musk who is like a businessman out of, I don't know, a science fiction book. It's unbelievable. I'd love to have him. Think about how he would act on the floor of the house. Instead of taking six months to get a committee together to stage an investigation, he would just stream on acts and be like, Nancy Pelosi, how do you accomplish all your insider trading? And do you think that that's moral to absolutely steal from the American people? He would. That's exactly the question he would ask.

He would just cut. What does he say now? You are the media? Yeah. You are the media. It's true. We need to apply that principle to Congress because now we think of Congress as a separate entity, but actually you are Congress. Actually, I hope it's actually proposed.

That would be fun. Lots and lots of fun. I want to take your mind here for just a second to Minnesota. And I'm saying I just want to take your mind there. Don't ever think, I mean, what? Minnesota, why would you go? Anyway. Minnesota in their state capital, they've always had the Christmas tree, and then they added the menorah.

Well, you can't add, you know, two global religions without, without adding Satan, right? Am I right? So the state of Minnesota allowed the Satanists to put up a phoenix coming from the ashes. and there are all their satanic symbols in the rotunda of the state capital with the Christmas tree and the menorah. It's unbelievable. This is the problem with the modern Republican Party is they've bought into this idea of neutrality

and libertarianism, and they refuse to say that any belief or principle is better than another. They only want this idea that like, oh, okay, well, you've chosen to worship saint, and I've chosen to worship the true God. Our beliefs are equal, so we should have an equal platform. No, that's never how our country was intended to be.

It was our country was always intended to be governed along the idea that liberty is not the end in of itself. Liberty is the means to virtue. Liberty is supposed to allow us to be an ordered civilization so that we can pursue God. We should not allow Satanist. No. And, you know, and first of all, the Satanist will tell you, we're not a religious. Well, if you're not a religion, then why are you in the rotunda? Because that's, you know, Congress shall establish no law.

So that doesn't really work. You are absolutely a religion. By the way, so is climate control. Absolutely a religion. So is wokeism. Absolute religion. And no, I don't think it should be in there. Also, they're just stupid if these so-called Satanists don't think that demons are real.

Like, you might not realize that you're worshipping demons, but that's what you're doing. Oh, I think they know. I think they're probably pretty clear on that. Let me show you some footage now from the local Minneapolis news on this. And Liz, I want to just get your live reaction here and go ahead and roll. Cut 12, please. So religious symbols at our state capital are not a new thing. For years, a Christmas tree has been installed in the rotunda. A menorah has been lit outside, honoring Christian and Jewish. seasonal traditions. But this year, the display of a Phoenix sponsored by the Minnesota Satanists joined the bunch. Stop. Can you freeze that, please?

That's so mean to make me react to that live. You can actually hear it in her voice before when she said Christmas tree, religious symbols. I can tell it makes her cringe. If you're watching the Blaze right now, you are seeing Rachel

Maddow's, yeah, Rachel Maddow's much butchier, manlike sister. She, I- Is that brown velvet? Brown corduroy? Probably brown corduroy, because that just screams liberal, brown clortroy suit. And then these big glasses and she just screamed. When she's on, the only thing I could think of when I saw this was, Hi, I'm a liberal.

and I'm going to tell you the news from my liberal point of view. I mean, it would be like having a guy dress up like Uncle Sam and sit behind a news desk and give you the news. What do you think he's going to say? That is one of the, forget about the Satanist thing. That was a red herring to get this newscaster who I've never said. I mean, when people say, what do liberals look like? Right there. Right there.

Am I wrong? Liz? No, you're not wrong. It shouldn't say breaking the news. It should say the unhappy news. Look at her. I actually feel a little bad for her looking at her because she doesn't, she seems like the idea of Christmas might be painful for her. I don't.

She looks angry. There's not a single diehard liberal that is happy. They're not. No. I mean, the diehard ones, they're not. You can be hippie or misguided or, you know, stupid. and be happy. But if you're really that deep progressive,

there's no way you're happy. It's not possible. Maybe a statue of her will be erected next year for the religion of wokeism. She'll probably write into the show afterward and tell us, actually I'm a conservative guys. That's so mean.

Yeah, I watch Yellowstone, so I understand the movement. Let's see. There's also a story from the New York Times, and it's a column, by their ethicist, it said, it's a write-in from somebody whose name was withheld. I have an 85-year-old neighbor who is a sweet friend and a caring person. My issue is she's very religious and I'm not at all.

She prays for me and says it in person, text, emails, for even the most minor situations. I've told her my view of religion and she doesn't need to pray for me. She said she has to. Otherwise, she's not following the Bible. I'm trying to ignore this, but it's really bothering me that she can't respect my wishes. You know, if you're not religious at all, why does it, you just think this old lady is wasting her time talking to, you know, some sky invisible sky god that doesn't exist. Why would it bother you that she's thinking it could bother you, you're like, she's just, she's just wasted her whole life. but you'd have empathy for her.

Why does it bother you if people say they're praying for you? You'd think it would make this person feel loved, actually, because even if the non-religious person doesn't believe in love, if you look at this old lady's worldview for a moment, she's trying to follow the Bible, meaning living according to Jesus' teaching, God is love. She's trying to love her literal neighbor here.

Right, right? It's because agnostics aren't really agnostic, right? No, I don't think so. I mean, I think some are. I think Penn Gillette said he was, first he said he was an atheist, and I think he's switched to agnostic. But I think he's saying that out of, I'm not so arrogant to make a claim that I can't prove one way or another.

Well, he probably wouldn't be bothered by a neighbor praying for him then. No. No, I actually, I talked to him one time and he said, isn't your church very into missionary stuff? And I said, yeah. And he said, you know, we've been friends now for a couple of years and you've never mentioned me coming to God. How's that working? He was actually kind of, he was like, how is that working? I mean, if we're friends and you won't say that, and I'm like, because I know. And then he went down the, oh, so you are the mind of your God. you know that it what I'm saying. And I'm like, I was actually not, I was trying not to offend you. And he's like, so you assume that I'd be offended that you loved me. You're like, this is why. This is why. Like I know. I knew we'd have this conversation. Anyway, the interest, it's interesting, the response from the New York Times. What would you think? How would they answer this woman in the New York Times? I mean, the New York Times is not going to write an article five, 10 years down the road when this non-religious person has converted thanks to the prayers of her neighbor and saying, listen, those prayers actually were effective. We're never going to see that from the New York Times.

So here's what the New York Times says. I'm glad that you've been honest with each other about your very different views concerning prayer. But the stakes for each of you don't seem comparable. If you don't think these prayers will do you any good, you presumably also don't think. think they'll do you any harm. By contrast, she thinks that you'll be worse off without them and therefore is praying for you. It is her duty. The only reason you give for objecting to her prayers is that she has failed to comply with your wishes. Yet I don't find that she has been treating you with disrespect because I don't see that you have the right to those wishes of

yours to be complied with. You seem to be asking her not to do something. You seem to be asking her not to do something she thinks she has compelling reasons to do. I thought that was disrespectful. So you're not entitled to insist that she stop including you in her prayers. What can you fairly ask? It's simple that she refrain from informing you about them. Still, instead of requiring you that your 80-year-old neighbor change her ways, I wonder if you might be able to change yours and learn to accept this woman for who she is, hearing her prayers as a sincere expression of her loving feeling toward you. From the New York Times.

That's actually beautiful. And I'll admit something to you, I didn't read that because I don't pay for the New York Times and this is paywold. So you asked me to read that before and I'm like, no, I can't because it's saying I have to pay for it. Here's the great thing is I pay for it as a show expense. And so I write it off. And so I get, I pay less to the government because of the New York Times.

Which makes me happy. Yeah. This is a good tradeoff. I would not have expected that from the New York Times. That's actually a very well thought out response. It is. And I don't disagree with it. I don't either.

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Sign up at glenbeck.com. You know, the old saying goes that sometimes wisdom comes right out of the mouth of babes. Well, I have to tell you that it also comes out of the mouth of really, really, really, really, really old people, but not in the case of Joe Biden. Cut one. You know, I don't know how you look at your constituents. the eye and know because the job they gave you gave you an inside track to make more money. Oh, okay. So he'd like money to be gotten out of politics because he doesn't know how politicians

can look people in the eye. Okay. Now he also, a little late, but on this one, he realizes groceries might be a little expensive. One thing that we haven't been able to change yet is starting to change. is that you go to a grocery store, a dozen eggs, a gallon of milk, a pound of bacon, still costs more than it did before the pandemic. That's a lot of money for people. It's taking time to change that. So there's reason for frustration,

but there's gigantic change in made. To quote Steve Martin in planes, trains, and automobiles, gee, do you think so? congratulations, Mr. President. Liz, we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you so much. You can listen to Liz on her show, the Liz Wheeler Show, on Blaze TV and on YouTube.

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