The Glenn Beck Program - Chaos is Not in Control | Guests: Bill O’Reilly, John Solomon, & Coletta Kewitt | 9/27/19
Episode Date: September 27, 2019President Trump’s impeachment is the beginning of “GUILTY until proven innocent” and if that’s how the president is treated, how bad will it be for us? The world may be in chaos, but we must h...old tight to true principles and virtue. Glenn’s sister, Coletta Kewitt, recently wrote a book that could help. She calls in to discuss “The Pie Letters,” about finding peace and patience through God, and she also has the PERFECT Glenn story for Pat and Stu. Bill O’Reilly goes through the facts about Trump, Ukraine, Biden, and how Republicans must respond to the media’s onslaught. The Hill’s John Solomon – whose research was mentioned in the whistleblower complaint – joins with new evidence linking Joe Biden to Ukraine’s Burisma. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I could do a six-hour show today.
We have so much to talk about.
and we have John Solomon on today.
The reason why he didn't make it yesterday is very clear today.
There is a new article out that does not bode well for Joe Biden and the Democrats.
And I really want to go over my theory that you need to know.
And also this article.
Yeah, that sounds interesting.
What else is on?
Bill O'Reilly.
Bill O'Reilly is on.
Is there anything else?
I want to kind of start with the things that the stories that we really haven't talked about.
Yeah, yeah, that'll be great.
What else is on today's show?
Anything else you can think of?
Oh, I know.
Your sister's on today.
She's got a new book out.
It tells all these.
No one told me this.
No one told.
I know they were trying to book her.
I knew she was and I knew everybody was trying to book her.
But today's not a good day.
Oh, you want to.
Is this cancel culture on your own sister?
Is that what we're doing right now?
I mean, she's booked for the internet.
You're trying to cancel your own sister.
Pathetic.
Because you are just going to use my sister.
You and Pat are so excited about this.
You're just going to use my sister.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I know.
All that and so much more coming up.
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I want to get into the John Solomon article,
but I first,
I want to address something that I think,
at least I am feeling,
and I think others may be as well.
There is a tremendous amount of things
to be worried about.
And if you are paying attention, it is a little overwhelming.
We are seeing and hearing a tremendous amount of stories all coming at us the same time.
Let me just give you just a few of the things that have happened just in the last couple of days.
The two most powerful and influential Western democracies in the history of the world
are both experiencing nothing short of political coups to remove their democratically elected
leaders from office.
The U.S. House of Representatives led by Nancy Pelosi.
A formal impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, allegedly, and for allegedly,
I think, doing his job.
At the same time, we haven't been paying attention to what's happening in the U.K.
The Supreme Court has just ruled that Prime Minister Boris Johnson violated their constitution
by suspending Parliament for five weeks, a move designed to force the Prime Minister to
design from office and to further the delay on Brexit.
The global economy is swinging dramatically towards a financial crash in recession,
with six of the G7 nations now issuing negative yielding government bonds.
In other words, you can invest in those countries, but you're going to get less than you put in when they give you your money back.
Also, the EU is launching quantitative easing to the tune of $20 billion.
a month just pumping cash into the European banking sector.
European banks are in trouble, but how about the U.S. banks?
We found out yesterday that they currently are requiring $160 billion of cash every single night from the Fed
just to meet their cash reserve requirements and operating expenses.
This is basically a day loan enabling them to borrow from Peter to pay Paul via freshly printed
cash from the Federal Reserve. Same time, Saudi Arabia, world's leading net supplier of fuel of oil
and natural gas suffered serious military attack just a week ago. 50% of their energy production
capabilities gone. The attacks seems to be sponsored by the hardline Islamist fascist within Iran,
the world's leading sponsor of global terrorism. We haven't even talked about Iran for the last
few days because we've been so busy with a coup happening here. Global banks representing more than
$110 trillion in total cash and investment value recently signed on the UN-backed initiative
committing to the so-called environmentally responsible carbon-neutral investment policies
pledging not to provide any lending, banking, or investment services to companies that don't
meet the new green deal type zero emission standards.
This move will dramatically hamper any kind of energy production,
any kind of mining, forestry, farming, ranching,
all around the world, including an estimated $12 trillion in GPS loss
to us alone over the next 10 years.
Google announced they're walking through the quantum computing door.
That dramatically will accept.
the capabilities of true artificial intelligence moving us forward towards the possibility of a singularity type event when computers will become self-aware and begin acting independently from their human programmers.
Quietly, the latest financial stability report provided by the Federal Reserve to Congress in it was the fact that the U.S. student loan default rates have soared to almost 10% of all federal loans.
and they're now in default, over 27% of the loans are delinquent,
meaning in the least that 30 days late in making these payments,
however, both of these numbers are higher and worse than they were in the Great Depression.
I could go on, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax,
Beto and Warren's gun confiscation, Yang's universal basic income, AOC's Green New Deal,
the fact that 65% of all Democrats now embrace socialism.
There is so much chaos in the world.
There is so much flux.
There are crisis situations.
We're inundated with these things every single day.
How are we expected to make through this?
How are we exposed to...
to make it.
How are you supposed to deal with it?
How are you supposed to be able to do your everyday and worry about all of that stuff?
Well, I'm going to say something very counterintuitive.
None of this matters.
Don't get me wrong.
It does matter because truth matters.
Justice matters.
Right and wrong matters.
But the chaos is not in control.
the chaos is the noise and the chaos only matters if we join in to the chaos and help create more chaos by us freaking out.
What if I told you we know exactly how to deal with this?
Because we have the model.
We know exactly what to do.
We know what to do as Americans.
We know that Americans in the ends are the ones that stand up and save the world.
We know what to do as conservatives and libertives.
We know what to do as a Glenn Beck radio audience or a blaze TV audience.
We know what to do as rational, principled, and virtuous people.
We know what to do because we've been here before.
Yeah, the names in the faces and some of the problems were different.
The supposed crisis is different.
The alleged consequences might have been different.
But the principles are the same.
Our experience on earth is one of a recurring theme of original principles versus contextual choices.
Each of us either choose to live by the principles of nature.
Whether you believe the natural world was created by God or not, there are natural rules.
The natural world exists and we exist in it.
world, including mankind, is governed by laws that supersede our feelings, our hopes, our wishes,
our fears. If we just follow those laws and align our values to those eternal, natural laws,
we will find success and happiness. If we deny man's nature and our place in nature,
if we continue to violate the laws of nature, we are only going to find failure.
and misery.
It doesn't matter what the crisis is.
It doesn't matter who the bad guys are this time around.
If we live to the true principles that we all have always known were true and correct,
then virtue will prevail.
What happened to innocent before proven guilty?
Trump may be guilty of a lot.
He may be guilty of being a jerk.
He may be a bad actor.
He may have orange skin.
He's definitely guilty of having weird ass hair.
But when we're dealing with the highest office in the land, how is it that guilty until proven innocent has taken over our national mentality?
That's the highest.
If this guy is guilty before being proven innocent, what do you think happens to you or your children when they grow up?
What message are we sending to our sons and daughters?
What message are we sending to the nations of the earth who look to.
towards us as an example of truth and justice and freedom and liberty. Yeah, I know. The political people,
they don't look at us like this. All the people they want chaos in the world, they don't look at it like
this. But all of the people who are enslaved around the world, all of the people who are hoping
for a better life, for just a chance to make it, they still do look at America as that beacon of
truth and justice and freedom and liberty. Wake up to who you really are.
wake up to what America has always been.
We're not perfect. We never have been.
But together, we've made it.
Together with all of our differences,
we find one common thing that brings us all together.
And that one common thing is we believe in the freedom of mankind.
We believe in the ability to be different.
We believe you don't have to be connected to be able to have a shot.
You don't have to be born in the right family.
You don't have to have the right name.
Your dad could be a scumbag and you didn't pay the price.
That's the way it is in the rest of the world.
It has never been like that here and that's exactly what we're turning into.
This isn't us.
Americans are better than this.
So before we get into all the crap of the day,
Let me just say this.
Know who you really are.
Know who you really are in the natural world.
As an animal who has to obey natural laws,
and also, for those of you who believe in a God,
that you are a literal son or daughter of God.
we are princes and princesses of an eternal king.
We are not acting like that.
We are not acting like we have any of the rights or the responsibilities that come with being a prince or a princess.
Know who you are and love yourself.
When you know who you are, it's easier to love yourself.
And when you really truly know who you are and love yourself, you become more humble and more kind.
know and love your family, know and love your neighbors.
The rest is as it always is, just noise.
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Now, are you guys going to be nice to my sister?
Oh, my God, I love your sister.
I know you love my sister.
I'm very nice to your sister.
Being nice to your sister is not the concern for you here.
She wrote this, this is a game-changing book in her life.
She wrote what's called the pie letters.
And much to my chagrin, no recipes are in this book.
But it is a book of, I mean,
We had a rough childhood.
And Coletta had a really rough childhood.
And she, you know, she's always been a hippie.
She's older than me and she's this hippie.
And she tried to find peace with my mother's suicide, her husband's suicide, and really kind of just went off on her own and took this journey.
And she didn't think she would, yeah, she didn't know where she was going.
and she found kindness to be the answer.
Yeah, I mean, it's actually a really cool story.
And it doesn't really lend itself for me to mock you on it, unfortunately, as much as I would like.
That's what I'm doing here.
Right.
No, I know.
You're setting it up.
So it feels bad for me and Pat to.
Yeah, I want you two to walk around feeling like worthless human beings.
Right.
Because her whole point is kindness.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But you didn't write this book.
She did.
So we'll be kind to her
And you're unrelated to the process
But it's a great story
And I will at least attempt
To mine some details about your childhood
That maybe would explain some behavior of yours
Nothing can explain this
Except genius
I'm just saying
What was it?
Genius
Genius
I thought you were going to say drugs
You're doing to say drugs
You're doing to do
do sound an awful lot of like I can hear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Genius.
A little different.
It's a little different.
Although, I mean, a lot of geniuses have been influenced by.
Well, if things go right, I just want, because I know my sister is probably listening
right now for the first time.
My family is not impressed with me in any way, shape, or form.
We agree on that point.
Right.
And so she's probably listening.
And I just want to say, if it goes.
Aray, I do
have, and she'll know exactly what I mean,
the Betsy Ross
Volkswagen story to tell.
I will pull that beautiful
story out.
And she knows exactly
what it means. I'm going to say.
You know, so let's play nice.
In the middle of the news cycle,
do not play into the hands of Stu and Pat.
Where the media has outlined
that essentially
threats were made against the Ukrainian
president.
I just want my sister to do me a favor.
That seemed like a threat.
Don't play ball with that and stew.
It's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
That's it.
All right.
Bill O'Reilly is coming up also in just a few minutes,
and he's going to give us his look at what's happening in the world.
Is this book come out?
Is it out or is it coming out soon?
Yeah, you missed him.
I had him on Tuesday.
It was really quite good.
He said he was going to send me one, but no, he said he was going to send one to your mom.
Well, he sent him, he sent his last book to my mom.
Oh, which was very nice.
He actually did it too.
Yeah.
However, he did not yet send me this new book, which I'm very excited to read.
He really doesn't care about you.
He's a nice guy.
Yeah, I got a galley, all signed.
I got it two months early.
You know?
I didn't get that.
You know, he told me he's left your copy.
You can get it in a couple of months when it's in the discount section at the bookstore.
Oh, really?
He said, yeah, he's left it there for you.
Oh, that's one of those up.
Because that's local.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can just go pick it up in a couple months, though?
Yeah, a couple months.
And when you find it, he's knocked the price down for it.
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So it's likely none of your friends knew about this Biden-Ukraine story, but you did for months.
And the research that we used for that.
I don't know why I've talked to presidents.
I've talked to prime ministers.
I've talked to really famous people and there's nothing that makes me more nervous than talking to my family on the air.
That's because they know things about you.
The prime ministers don't know anything about you.
I don't think that's.
Coletta Cuit is the author of a new book called The Pie Letters, Thoughts and Reflections on Pie and Life.
If that sounds like something I could write, it's because Coletta Cuit is my older
sister. And looking at the cover
of her new book where she's standing there with a pie,
I fail to see the
almost identical resemblance.
Other than the goatee, it's close.
Yeah. And it really defies all logic
because you'd think I'd make an ugly woman. And I
apparently don't. I apparently don't.
The pie letters, welcome to the program.
and watch your step carefully because you are on with Pat and Stu who have ulterior motives, my good sweet sister.
No, no, no.
How are you, Coletta?
Good morning.
Good morning.
Fine.
Yeah, good.
You should know, Coletta, this is the safest interview you will ever do in your life.
It is not, Collette.
We are 100% on your side, and we want to sell copies of the pie letters.
That is my main goal in life right now.
And we don't want to embarrass you at all.
We want to embarrass Glenn.
You help us, we help you.
Yeah.
There's nothing here to embarrass me.
This is my sister who has, if you listen to this program, you know, we had a good, wouldn't you agree we had a good childhood?
Screwed up, but a good childhood.
It didn't sound like much of an agreement.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the main difference between your childhood, though, is that she had to live with you, right?
Like, you are already you, so you didn't have to deal with that.
I had to listen to all of her hippie records.
from her room.
Okay.
So we,
maybe we're,
maybe,
you know,
we,
we all try to,
you know,
remember things more fondly
than they were.
But I know people had
worse childhood
and then had worse things
happened to them,
even though you have,
have really truly
struggled in the family.
Both my sisters
truly have struggled.
And what I like about this book,
Coletta,
is,
well,
I'll tell you what I like
and I don't like.
What I like about this,
is this is my sister finding happiness.
And there is nothing I want more for my sisters and my family
than to each of them find peace and happiness.
And she found it through what she calls the pie letters.
And so she was motivated to tell this story of happiness and peace and kindness.
And now what I don't like about it is there are no recipes of your
pies, which are the best pies I've ever had.
So tell us, tell us about the book, Coletta.
Well, and actually, Glenn, it's really, I've found peace through the awareness of God through my life.
By the way, you don't have to edit yourself.
I know your language.
You don't have to edit yourself.
You can say God and scriptures and everything else in the program.
But that's really, you know, just finding that peace.
and patience, which, you know, God actually had me write this book for me because I'm the one that,
I know we all need patience, but oh my gosh, through the whole writing of it, it was, yeah,
patience, patience, patience.
And I write a lot about my husband, which we laugh a lot about this because I need patience
with living with him.
Oh my goodness.
Yes, I think so.
I think so.
So there are some pretty funny stories about just, you know, relationships.
Yeah.
Relationships.
And then there are also those, yeah, just stories about our life as, you know.
So there's a reason why one of us went into the communications business and one of us went into the pie business.
And I, and which is which?
I forget, no.
I think, I think, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Well, can I just, so that everybody don't just, you know, to let you know,
I didn't know we were having this little interview this morning
and you woke me up from a dead sleep.
Like, oh, I'm going to be on air.
Okay, so wait a minute.
One of us, one of us didn't know about it.
It was me too.
I didn't know.
I guess I prepared a show and they sprung this on me a half hour.
ago. So both of us didn't know. I blame the producer and Pat. That's your fault. It's your fault.
Yes. Glenda, how much of this struggles in your life would you assign to growing up with Glenn?
That's not. Percentage wise. Anyone to give a roundabout figure?
Which you have to ask yourself, which one do you think will help sell more books at this point?
Stu or me? Well, just so you know, his bedroom was right next.
mine and he was my stinky little brother and yeah.
Spinky.
His room,
room just permeated.
But it was so I forget the name of your book.
It's called the Pie Letters.
It's available on Amazon.
You should buy as many copies as humanly possible.
Explain what the pie letters are, Coletta.
The Pie Letters is a, it's a book on.
No, no, no.
Short essays.
Yeah, but what were the pie letters originally?
What were the pie letters?
You went into the pie business.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yes.
So I had a pie the month club, and it started out, the pie letters first started out with meeting this gentleman who, I'm so sorry.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
So let me delve with the pie letters.
The book is that my son.
sister is dead asleep.
The pie letters,
the pie letters, she started this deal.
My sister's a personal chef.
And she makes the best food.
If you ever find yourself anywhere near Wyoming,
find my sister's pies because they are fantastic.
And so she started making these pies,
but she started making them and selling them
and then bringing them to people, you know,
every single month.
And it would be a different pie every month.
And with it,
would come a pie letter.
And it basically is what some of these chapters are.
These pie letters were reflections on eternal truths and lessons of life.
And what they have to do with pie?
Go ahead, Coletta.
I have no idea.
Yeah, what do the letters have to do with pie?
Well, they're the synchronicity of beating pie in life.
So so many things in our life are, I'm just going to get here to one of the little short essays.
This is the greatest interview of all time.
Of all.
Of all time.
I will say I think it's great.
I think it's fantastic.
And Clint is doing a fantastic job.
And considering the stinky permeations that came from her brother's room,
the fact that she's able to get to a level where she can write a book like this is incredible.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
And Glenn, you're going to love me still in either way, right?
Oh, we'll see at Christmas.
All right.
Well, one of them, for instance, is called Piology 101.
And it talks about how awesome it is to ponder,
how our creator has put our individual ingredients so carefully together.
yet we get to choose our finishing touches and the temperature settings of the day.
Sometimes we're hot, sometimes we're not.
Every day is spent forming our own creation of self.
Some days we also form a pie.
Our ingredients of the day can be mixed up, nutty, and complicated, or just sweetly simple.
Fruits grown out of even the best soil and conditions may become brewed,
but even imperfect fruit can become a pie to savor.
Life, as imperfect as it is, maybe has a multitude of savory and sweet bites in each new day.
Pie in life filled to the brim with the fillings of our choice, oozing and bubbling over and just so beautifully messy.
Being very hungry.
Pie in lunch.
Any pie or day can end in failure but be perfected on the next.
Pie and Life presented in pieces and are just what is left or sometimes presented well-rounded as a whole.
You're definitely the same family.
I can tell you're getting life advice through baked goods.
Right.
Is that not great?
That's not great?
Pie and Life are made up of a beautiful variety of spices and different tastes.
Pie in Life, overworking can make it too tough.
Pie in Life, tender care will always produce the perfect foundation.
Pie in life, dig in while it's fresh, and share that creation.
The name of the book is The Pie Letters, Thoughts and Reflections on Pie and Life.
It's by my sister, Colleta-Cuit, and you can find it at Amazon right now, The Pie Letters,
and it is well worth the read.
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I need to share with you what we shared yesterday on the program.
This has nothing to do, nothing to do with Joe Biden.
Nothing? I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.
Yeah. Okay. So yes, it does have something to do with Joe Biden, but it is more about
the DNC, and I think Joe Biden is being thrown to the wolves.
They don't care about Joe Biden.
They don't care about Joe Biden.
Because I bond back and forth on this, as you know, I kind of feel like if Joe Biden is a savvy
politician, he can absolutely take advantage of this.
Because he can come, and he kind of tried to do it a little bit yesterday,
but not as overtly as I think I would do it if I were him as a candidate,
to say that, look, the president in the United States is making phone calls to foreign
leaders to try to sink my campaign because he knows I'll beat him. And I'm not saying he will beat
him. I'm just saying if I'm Joe Biden, that's the argument I'm making to Democratic voters today.
You know, he's, he's looking, he's not targeting Elizabeth Warren. He doesn't want dirt on Bernie
Sanders. He's not looking at hey, what's Pete Buttigieg been up to? He's coming after me. He's coming
after me because he knows I'll beat him. And he's actually, but in reality, and this is where
Donald Trump needs to stop playing defense on this and needs to start playing offense and need
somebody who can craft the story of what he was really doing.
President knew what he was looking for, and he's not looking to take down Joe Biden.
He's looking to out, he's looking to take down the deep state that's run by the Democrats.
The Democrats were all over the Ukraine, and they were all over in the Ukraine during the election.
I mean, why would Hillary Clinton's strategic advisor?
her chief strategic advisor be spending time in Ukraine at that time.
Why?
They used Ukraine.
It's a beautiful vacation location.
That's where you go.
They used Ukraine as a way, as an entrance to get dirt on people and a doorway to the dirty money of Russia.
And that's what Donald Trump is going to expose.
And he's going to expose it in the intelligence community.
He's going to expose it in the State Department.
He's already exposed it in our embassy in Ukraine and fired that person.
And I think the documents haven't come out because nobody has wanted to speak because no one knew where the power was.
Or, alternatively, if you're looking for a warm, tropical vacation spot, what better place than Chernobyl?
Well, you make a good point.
You make a good point.
This, this, this, this transcript that was released explains why Nancy Pelosi suddenly had a flip-flop.
It explains why they are freaking out so much.
It explains why Tony Podesta suddenly just shut down one of the biggest consulting firms in America overnight.
Just remember that?
He just...
Yeah, that was really weird.
Gone, I quit.
Shut it down.
Why?
Why?
What was so corrupt?
What was going on?
What was so urgent that you shut it down that day?
Well, we're now starting to see what that is.
And we see the deep state.
And it's going to be up to the Trump team to make the case.
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Gee, Bill, not a lot happened this week, huh?
Well, if you're the only Bill on the show.
I'm talking to me.
I'm talking to you.
This impeachment, where do you want to start?
Through the whole out.
Okay, go ahead.
All right, because my head's going to blow off listening to these morons on cable television.
I have never seen anything more dishonest.
This is, and I say this every time they do something, it is worse and worse.
every time.
And this is sponsored, that's a good word, by the media.
The media is doing this, not Nancy Pelosi in the Democratic Party.
The media is driving the impeachment, and Nancy Pelosi and her merry people are hitchhiking
a ride drive.
Would you dispute that?
Yes, I would.
I wouldn't have two days ago, but after listening to the whistleblower, I think this is so
far above Nancy Pelosi's head. This is going to tear down the entire Obama DNC infrastructure that
they thought they had all buttoned up in Ukraine. And I think they have no choice.
Yeah, but you're given by the media. Would you seed that?
Yeah. I mean, the media wants to take him down at any cost, but they sense that there's something
bigger here because of what they're hearing from the DNC.
and the DNC is not telling the truth, obviously.
It was possible because you're a brilliant man, but I'm a simple man.
Okay, all right, simple man.
I'm a simple guy.
I just want to be really clear.
So everybody listening can say, you know, that was a worthwhile hour with O'Reilly and Beck.
So the media is driving the impeachment sentiment.
And if you don't believe me, look at all the front pages of the liberal.
newspapers, which is 90% of them.
So you see words like scandal.
You see words like cover.
You see words like mob behavior, organized crime.
All of that is what is being written today, September 27, 2019.
The broadcast media picks up the phraseology, cover up mob behavior, that kind of thing, drives it on television.
Now, Pelosi and the Democrats, even though we don't have anything that rises to the level of impeachment, it doesn't matter.
Yes, I'm with you.
Okay. So for the American citizen who's fair-minded, not pro-Trump or anti-Trump, but just wants the best for his or country, the first question you have to ask is what is the violation that would,
amount to an impeachment inquiry.
Can you tell me what the violation is, Beck?
No, can't.
What?
Can't.
Because there is no violation.
Exactly right.
There's no violation.
It's not like Clinton lied or Andrew Johnson is so drunk he can't do his job.
It's not like that.
It's like there's no violation because a sitting president is allowed under our Constitution
to call any foreign leader and say to that far,
and leader, you know, there's a situation involving a former vice president that we feel might
lead to corruption. Can you please check that out for us? That's allowed, Beck. Of course it is.
It is in the national... Look, you could say that Donald Trump was doing this to hurt Joe Biden,
but the fact is this is bigger than Joe Biden, and even if it did help Donald Trump, it is in
our national interest to the extreme to find out what was going on?
A president has the right to ask the assistance of a foreign leader to get information.
So that's number one. Okay, that's number one. He didn't do anything wrong in a call.
There's no, if you don't give me this, we're going to deny funds like Biden did,
and Biden admits to doing it. All right, none of that. The second thing is,
election intent. Okay, that's a subjective thing. It's not a
factual seed that Donald Trump wanted to get dirt on Joe Biden.
I will admit that all day long. And the reason I admit it is because I wrote it
in the United States of Trump. If you read the book, you'll see the genesis of this
whole thing, that Trump is so furious because he believes that Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Now, Joe Biden hurt him personally in the campaign and then after he won.
And that he believes that firmly.
Correct.
And he wants payback.
And because we did our homework starting a year ago and did two episodes on this six months ago,
we know that that is true.
We know that that is true.
Absolutely.
Well, I don't know about Biden.
Oh, yes.
I don't know about Biden.
Well, we'll listen to next hour.
We have John Solomon on with us next.
He just got some additional documents from Ukraine yesterday.
And the case is moving forward, and it is damning on Joe Biden and the Democrats.
I'll see that.
But on the record, on the record in the United States of Trump right there, so you can see it,
is Barack Obama, as President of the United States, knew was informed by the CIA in August 2016,
that Russia was trying to intrude on the election.
And Barack Obama chose not to say anything, not to give either campaign a heads up.
That's on the record that happened. That's a fact.
Trump is furious about that.
Because in his mind, any other president would have said, hey, be careful.
Russians are trying to intrude.
But Obama didn't do it.
Secondly, Donald Trump believes, and this is a fact as well, that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid money to foreign nationals to get the dossier, the smear dossier that turned out to be false.
Both the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid money to foreign nationals through Fusion GPS.
Russians were paid.
Right.
And I think you will find that they also did it in Ukraine.
They used Ukraine as the middleman to get to the real dirty people in Russia.
You will find that to be true soon.
I know, I know, I know.
I know.
I'm stating facts.
All right.
It's a fact-based hour.
Yeah.
So every word that I've said up until now is true fact.
Yeah, verify it.
So now you have the American people, the American people going,
What the deuce is happening when our Congress can be diverted into trying to destroy a sitting president based on what?
Nothing.
There's no crime.
And let's get into the cover up.
The cover up.
Every president, since George Washington, when they have a sensitive conversation, not only with a foreign leader, but anyone,
one in government here, sensitive conversation in a more secure place.
Every single one of them.
Yes, but there was nothing, no, no, there was nothing sensitive in this except for him saying,
I want to ask you for a favor, dot, dot, dot, I need you to get some dirt on Joe Biden and his
son.
That's what they're claiming, that there was nothing.
sensitive in this, except for him.
But that wasn't what was said.
I know.
Look, drives me nuts.
Because you, as a president, cannot put out to the public that you talked to the president
of Ukraine or Australia or anyone.
And here's what I said.
If you do that, no one will talk to you.
You're going to put it in a more secure place.
It's not a cover-up.
This is standard procedure.
Yet on the front page of the newspapers, whistleblower says cover up.
I mean, it's just, you always say Twilight Zone, I always say this, but now I'm teed off, Beck.
And it's not because I'm sticking up for Donald Trump.
If you read the United States of Trump, the man makes a lot of mistakes, and he makes them because he has a lack of discipline when he's attacked.
And he does things he shouldn't do.
I honestly.
Put yourself in his shoes.
I honestly entered the week.
He didn't do anything wrong.
I know.
I entered the week when I heard about the whistleblower thinking,
okay, let's keep an open mind.
You know, he could have done that.
We also, when they said, well, we're going to release the transcripts,
I came in that morning going, well, you know, he makes a lot of stupid mistakes
and just kind of, you know, just blurts things out.
Maybe.
But I am absolutely convinced now.
that and and I'm going to do a special on this next week.
He did nothing wrong.
In fact, I fully support what the president was trying to get at.
If I understand this story right, and I believe I do, I fully support him in this and the way he handled it.
I would have handled it exactly the same way.
I couldn't give the president more support at this point.
I would not have handled it the same way he did.
I would never have trusted a foreign leader in Ukraine.
It wasn't the foreign leader that blew this.
It wasn't the foreign leader that blew this.
That foreign leader was the guy who agreed with the president.
In fact, brought Giuliani up first.
He was the guy who said, I know, and I'm on this, and I've got the people.
The one that ratted him out, the one that broke this confidence, is the deep state intel that was spreading rumors.
Your goodness person is, that's definitely going to come out.
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, since we're on a fact-based hour, who is he?
Yeah.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah.
Do you really want me to say, we is?
I do.
I'm going to give you, just because I'm a great, no, no, no.
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The name of the whistleblower.
Bill O'Reilly.
Stu.
Stu did it.
Can you tell us what you do know?
Now I'm going to depart from the fact-based first 20 minutes that we had.
If you look at the whistleblower completely,
complaint. All right. And we'll go back to facts now. He did not hear the conversation. All right. So it's
here. So access to President Trump talking with the Ukraine.
I'll listen to the deep state trying to get this, this conversation ended. Bill, you're
breaking up. We know it is either Dick Cheney, Halliburton, or the deep state. Can you state
are you hearing me clearly now? I am now. But as soon as you started in on the facts,
okay. All right, go ahead. You know, this is the deep state trying to cut me out. I know.
No. Look, if you read the language of the whistleblower complaint, it is a anonymous sources and what this guy thinks happened, not what really happened. All right? So that when he is exposed, which he will be, you are going to see that this is Christine Blasey Ford. Yes. That's who it is. A person with an axe to grind against another person. Yeah. You're not saying it's her specific.
You're saying it's just a person with her profile.
I think it's another one with her profile.
Another person that has been against this president from the start.
The whistleblower has already been discredited multiple times.
They said he said this at least eight times.
No, he didn't.
He made a promise.
No, he didn't.
This is what the IG kind of said, right?
Supposedly that this is someone with a political axe to grind.
Correct.
And you'll also find, Bill, I think you'll also.
We'll prove it to be true.
Wait, wait, wait, I want to put one more.
Hang on, I want one more thing before we go back into fact base.
You're also going to find the State Department's fingers all over this.
All over this.
Go ahead.
All right.
Well, we're doing talk radio and TV, a lot of stuff to talk about.
But what should have now to protect the American people, to protect the American people.
See, the American people are the ones that are really getting hurt here.
Yeah.
Trump is getting hurt, but because this country is supposed to be operating in a fair way and honest way,
it's the American people who are getting hurt.
So what is wrong with the Republican Party?
The Republican Party should join together, and Mitt Romney better shut the F up, okay?
Well, I don't think I've ever heard you say that.
I don't think I've ever heard you say something like.
Well, look, Mitt Romney is about as irresponsible.
I like Mitt Romney.
for a long time.
Okay?
But what he said this week was as irresponsible as anything any Democrat said.
So the Republican Party has to, and Mitch McConnell is going to have to lead it.
God help us.
He's going to have to go as one entity and say, this is a fraud.
This is tearing the fabric of America apart.
We're not going to stand for it.
And every Republican has got to stand up in the House and Senate.
And sign on to that.
Because if you don't, you don't have an honest country anymore because this is banana public stuff.
It is.
That's what it is.
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You know, if the president would have said, look, I need some dirt on Joe Biden, and I don't care where you get it, that would be one thing.
But that's not what he said.
What he's saying is, we believe there is deep corruption from the United States in the Ukraine.
And we have pieces of evidence, and we believe the newly elected president, we believe you don't know some of those names and they are still surrounding you.
be very careful, but you must further these investigations.
And the president in the Ukraine saying,
I know what you're talking about, I know who you're talking about,
and we are furthering those investigations.
I don't understand how that is anything but in the national interest of our country.
I don't understand how that is wrong for anyone to say.
It's exactly what I would say.
Bill O'Reilly.
Welcome to me. Not going to be reported that way.
You know, I know, but that's...
There's nothing wrong with that.
Right. But that's the spin of the media.
The way you just laid it out, there's nothing...
Okay. So a headline on the CBS website, news website right now.
Over 300 former national security professionals call out Trump for unconscionable abuse of power.
That's the headline. Okay, so CBS News is putting out that 300 people, both Republican and Democrats,
who worked in the industry, national security industry,
of condemned Trump based on what?
There's no evidence to condemn anyone about anything.
Now, the only legitimate point here,
and this goes back again to my book, the United States of Trump,
and this is the president's Achilles' heel,
is that he harbors grudges against people he thinks have harmed him and his family.
So there is an element, and I know this to be true,
that Biden's Ukrainian quote.
Right. So let me ask you this.
The president wants to do that.
Let me ask you this to further that.
Go ahead.
But it is not just, in fact, I think that is secondary.
The election is secondary.
He is so angry at this Russian corruption stuff that came through the Ukraine and Russia by the Democrats,
Joe Biden was involved, Barack Obama was involved.
He is so angry at that he wants to find the evidence to prove that is true.
And I think he would want that to be proven true to discredit them more than even winning the next election.
Would you agree with that?
Yes.
And it goes to his, it goes to him always saying, I'm a legitimate president.
They didn't throw it my way.
He's so obsessed.
It goes way back to, right.
Right.
He's obsessed with that.
It goes way back to Elise Heel for him.
I agree.
And that's why you've got to read the United States of Trump to understand where the man is coming from.
But that's not an impeachable offense.
Correct.
All right.
Every president has deficits, personality deficits.
Every one that you've.
don't impeach on that. And a headline like 300 people say what Donald Trump did was unconscionable
is unconscionable itself. CBS putting that up there is unconscionable. They don't know who these
people are. They also are former. Are they not former intelligence? And I'll go back to Blasey Ford again.
I'll go back to that analogy. We now know that Blasey Ford did like Kevin.
abortion profile. We now know that she went to the most radical left lawyer she could find
to represent her in a political way. These are facts. By the way, we had to endure as a nation.
The lawyer, the lawyer that this whistleblower went to, we know, worked for Hillary Clinton and
Chuck Schumer. I mean, in their offices. That's true. The whistleblower is using. But as
I said in the first half hour, you are going to find out soon that the man is a Trump
hater.
You will find that out.
But even when we do find it out, Beck, do you expect that to be reported honestly in this country?
No.
Do you respect getting that information?
No.
So that's why I'm saying the only solution to this problem now is for the Republican Party
to ban together as one and fight.
This is what I said.
What I said...
American people a clear choice.
Right.
Last, yesterday, when I was reading the whistleblower report,
it all kind of dropped into place for me,
and I'm going to make this case next week in a special,
and I urge you to watch it.
I'll send you a copy of it, Bill,
so you can watch it while you're being chauffeured around town
or whatever it is you do.
Yeah, we do have a TV in the backseat.
Okay, so...
But I'll send it to...
you because I want you to see it.
But it all kind of dropped into place for me yesterday, or yeah, yesterday during the whistleblower thing.
And I'm looking at this.
And Donald Trump, and this is going to be very hard because what you said, he is obsessed with this.
And that's an Achilles heel, only because that's why we remove people from investigations when they're personally involved, because you make mistakes.
and he's going to make mistakes.
Yes, and he'll make mistakes.
That's not an impeachable offense.
Correct.
Look, if Biden had been clean,
if Biden had done nothing wrong,
then Trump would be really in a bad place.
But Biden did do something wrong.
By his own admission,
he went to a foreign country as the vice president
threatened to withhold a billion dollars,
unless the foreign country fired a prosecutor who was looking into his son's company.
Now hang on.
The story on the left is that it wasn't for that.
It was for corruption.
And if it were indeed for corruption, I would be for that.
The government of the United States should not be doing business with corrupt governments
where we had just lost $1.8 billion, went to offshore,
accounts of the guy who ran Burisma and the biggest bank.
So I would be for that, but that's not what it is.
And in 10 minutes, 15 minutes, John Solomon will be on.
He has newly released documents yesterday.
He got a hold of documents that show that that is absolutely not what was going on.
And absolutely, this was about Joe Biden and his son.
He has the documentation to prove it.
And he's coming up in 15 minutes.
In my mind, because Biden himself said it.
And if you listen to the soundbite, it's clear Biden swaggered on over there with his big VP status and said,
we don't like this guy.
And I don't even know who the guy is, but the guy's investigating my son's company, and you got to fire him.
And if you don't, we're going to withhold a billion dollars.
And that's exactly what Trump was initially accused of, which now turns out to be false.
But don't you, don't you see my big point, Beck, that if the Republican Party don't launch a counterattack that this country, you know, who's going to defend Trump?
That's why I said, and this is what I was.
And is this what is going to be? And he ought to tell Giuliani just to shut up. I mean, Giuliani hurts him, doesn't help him. Get Giuliani out of there.
the Republicans have got to tell the American people the Democratic Party in conjunction with the corrupt media is harming the nation.
Vote for us and we will stop it.
I will tell you.
That's the choice is going to have to be made.
I will tell you, Bill, we are researching this now to find the evidence to be able to make at least a good case.
It's not going to be an open and shut case because the people,
aren't talking in Ukraine yet, but they will more and more coming to the table because they see
which way the wind is blowing. And this is a battle of Titans and it's a clash of Titans. And it's,
it's, I think, a battle to the death in Ukraine, probably literally. But this is why I'm trying
to make this case next week. I'm going to button it up. But yesterday I said, Donald Trump needs
to stop playing defense and needs to go on the offense. But they have to have, they have, they
have to have a simple elevator pitch that people can understand about what this really is and then
back it up. And that's what I'm trying to provide next week. And I don't think it can just be Trump.
No, it has to be the entire, no, it doesn't even have to be the GOP. It has to be everyone who believes
in innocent until proven guilty. Because I can't prove that the DNC is doing this. And the DNC can't
prove that Donald Trump is doing this, but this is an issue of national security that goes way
beyond the election of 2020, way beyond Donald Trump, and certainly well beyond Joe Biden.
Stop looking at this as just a political thing.
No, I have not.
Did you tape you?
No, I have not.
Just stay in the boundary of provable fact.
Because if you go out of that, then the.
You can be attacked and then if something happens that we don't know about, right?
And, you know, look, you can't, I can't present a case.
I will make sure that I say, this is proven, this is proven, this is proven, this is what I believe they are driving towards.
This is what I believe happened.
And I can prove.
Yeah, at the end, you can do that once you present the fact.
Right.
I will.
Just re-rearinated states of Trump.
it's all fact-based and just follow that outline back that's all I have to do
just follow the way okay I've guided you through how this is done all right you present facts
all right okay but I I want everybody listening right now I know you have to go and and get
painkillers or whatever you're on here I want everyone to who are listening all the millions
of people who are listening to us right now to understand that this is a crossroads in American
history, that you have a corrupt media, and there's no question as corrupt, all right,
that have allied itself with a political party, the Democrats, in order to destroy a president
of the United States. This has never happened before. I believe, I believe, Bill. And if they are
successful, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I think you're just going to make the point. Yes. Our
republic is gone. I was just going to say, Bill, I believe.
will ever be safe again.
I believe if this just fades away or they are successful in doing this, I do believe this is the
point where we lose our security, our liberty, our justice, all of it is gone on this particular
case.
I think you're right.
The Republican Party has to understand that.
And I'm telling you, if...
they don't help, it's
their guy himself. He can't.
And it doesn't matter with you or
Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh.
It doesn't matter. Okay?
The party
has to say to the American people
enough. All right. Bill O'Reilly.
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Welcome. So let me ask you this. I've heard you a couple times refer to this story at a certain way. And I've heard a lot of people on the right say, look, Trump didn't do anything illegal. Trump didn't do anything that would lead to impeachment. You know, maybe it's not perfect and, you know, it's part of politics. But it's not perfect. He's a sloppy guy. However, that's what you said was I would have done everything the same way.
which is you've gone further and again like you're not always super complimentary on the president on every issue
no you are sometimes and sometimes you're not because i'm not making this story about donald trump and i'm not making
about joe biden i'm making this story about what this story is really all about the um intelligence agencies
the state department mark my word the state department's fingers are going to be all over this uh the state
Department, the Justice Department, and the Democratic Party, the DNC, the leaders, the Hillary
Clintons of the world, the Tony Podestas. This is what this story is really all about. This is the
deep state that says, we know what we're doing, we control these things. They planted these people
firmly in Ukraine. I think, my personal opinion, is that they were using Ukraine for dirty ops.
and that's what this story is about.
This is about a coup of the American Republic,
not just of the president trying to get him out.
This is, I believe, the end of the republic
and the beginning of an oligarchy
if we do not stop this.
And you're going to see that that is what Donald Trump,
whether he knows it or not, is actually doing
and it is critical
that it is exposed.
You're listening to Glenn.
Boy, you want to talk to somebody who is deeply in this.
The whistleblower quotes the work that our next guest has, has done on this issue.
John Solomon, a very respected journalist up until recently, who has been on this for a long time
and is mentioned by the whistleblower as a shill.
I don't think John Solomon is a shill
You'll have to decide
We'll get the inside on new information
That has just come to him
Last night
We should get into it
I mean just think of the last couple of days
I mean
Obviously this is a story
We've been laying the groundwork for
For months and months and months and months
Then the two big days
Both pieces
Or the last three days I guess
Both big pieces of information
Break during the show
Right
Then we have not only
Bill O'Reilly on who just wrote a book about the way Trump thinks,
which is a really good perspective.
But then Chris Stewart, who walks out of a hearing to come on the air with us,
and now John Solomon, who's released all these documents,
is on the air with us the day, you know, almost immediately after he releases them.
That's a...
It's a little bit of a couple days.
Yeah, it has been a little crazy.
And there is a special on The Blaze next week.
We'll tell you about more coming up.
I'm going to give you a little synopsis.
and thank you for being here because you are so important to get information out.
Let me just tell you what has happened.
The Democrats are going for impeachment based on something that happened in Ukraine with, they say, with Joe Biden.
It's much bigger than that, as you'll understand here in a minute.
But you knew about this thing with Joe Biden because you listened to this show.
You had done your homework.
You had heard us interview people who have been doing the investigation on this.
You watched our videos on it explaining all of this.
So you were ahead by months.
Then we have Bill O'Reilly on today, who has just released a new book on how Donald Trump thinks and how this affects him.
Not Joe Biden, but Joe Biden's work.
in the Ukraine and how it all ties up into the Russian investigation, which is exactly what we're
talking about now.
He's got that out.
Yesterday, we had Chris Stewart walk out after questioning the Inspector General or the
National Director of Intelligence.
As he's being questioned, Chris Stewart is questioning him.
I happen to write him during the questions, see him look down and he gets up and he walks
out of the hearing room.
calls us yesterday to tell you exactly what was going on.
Today, I think the guy who has all of the keys to the kingdom,
the guy who the whistleblower says is the mouthpiece for Rudy Giuliani,
and he's nothing but a shill.
You've heard him before, and you know his record.
He's joining us in one minute.
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John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist. He has worked for the Associated Press, the Washington Post, the Washington Times.
He's the executive vice president at the Hill and is at the center of this story.
John, I don't know what your deal is like yesterday when you got up.
and watched and and read the whistleblower report and you are named as the mouthpiece for this
conspiracy theory yeah it's uh well my name is not in there but my reporting clearly is and they're
clearly identifying me and i and i think there are some troubling questions that need to be asked which is
why is why is a reporter's factually uh proven factually based fully authenticated fully documented stories
of the intelligence community. Has anyone been monitoring me? Have they been looking or unmasking my calls
overseas? Why is this a matter of whistleblower? I can't violate intelligence law. I'm not an
intelligence officer. There is a very serious question raised here about why my reporting was thrown
into a narrative that absolutely my reporting has nothing to do with intelligence law. It has nothing
at all. And so it was clearly, and ironically, this whistleblower complaint was filed in.
July, right around the time I began submitting questions to Joe Biden about the story that I just
wrote last night. And I think that if you look yesterday, there was a coordinated assault on my
reputation. All of it factually false. And I intend to eventually show the American public how
false the stories in the narrative were yesterday. But it can't be an accident that all this happens
as I'm finishing up the latest story on Joe Biden, which came out last night. And when you look at
what I reported, Joe Biden's, Hunter Biden's legal team, the legal team for Burisma,
working on Hunter Biden's watch when he's a board member and consultant, and according to the
company, overseeing the company's legal strategy, they are telling the Ukraine prosecutor's
office that the information that was used to justify Joe Biden firing the chief prosecutor
of Ukraine, the man investigating his son's company, was, quote, false information.
Why would, wait, why would, wait, why would.
would bariseman do that? Why would the lawyers do that? I don't know the answer. Yeah, we don't know
the answer, right? There's all sorts of possibilities, which is they wanted the new guys to have,
you know, feel good about them. They wanted the new guys to make the case go away and settle the case,
which they did. You know, they settled it with a tax fine at the end of Barack Obama's presidency.
Nobody can understand the dynamics here yet because in Ukraine, it's a very strange world, right?
Truth isn't always what it seems when you first get there. But the importance for the
American people is that Joe Biden has staked out a very clear story. I fired the guy. Yes, I knew my
son's company was under investigation, but that's not why I fired the guy. I fired him because he was
corrupt. Now, what I put in the record yesterday were just old-fashioned documents. They come
from public releases of information from the Office of Prosecutor in Ukraine and from an affidavit
filed in the in Austrian court. And here's what they show. First, the man who was fired,
Shokin, the man that Biden forced to be fired, the man who was investigating Hunter Biden's company,
and at that moment he was fired making plans to interview Hunter Biden.
That doesn't mean Hunter Biden did anything wrong, but he was about to interview Hunter Biden in the middle of the 2016 election.
That would have been a big story, right?
He says, I was told, and I can tell you for certainty, I was fired because I continued to investigate Burisma
when Joe Biden wanted me to stop, and that's what President Poroshenko made clear to me.
that's the important thing. It's under penalty of perjury. We should evaluate that, but it doesn't match Joe Biden's story. Now, here's the second thing that doesn't match Joe Biden's story. Joe Biden says it was all about the corruption. The day that he fired or got that Ukraine prosecutor fired while in Ukraine, miraculously, Brie Smith's team is at the doorstep trying to get a meeting immediately with his replacement. If they're not related, why is Breesma so interested on the day of the firing to get to see?
the new guy, the acting prosecutor. And of course, that acting prosecutor was a little busy that day,
getting his job in place. So he waits about a week, and then he takes the audience with Burisma.
These are three American lawyers, two working for a public relations lobbying firm known as Blue Star Strategies,
and one, a famous criminal defense lawyer, a very accomplished defense lawyer in, I think is Massachusetts or New York.
They come over and they have the meeting. And in that meeting, according to the prosecutor's memo of it,
summary of it, signed by the acting, or at that time the acting prosecutor, it says they
apologized for the false information that U.S. officials had spread about the predecessor, Mr.
Chokin. They knew that it was false information, and they would like to arrange a way to make
this all up by bringing the left remaining prosecutors to Washington, getting good with the
Obama administration, tell them what really went on, so there's no more confusion going forward.
that narrative, those documents do not match Joe Biden's story.
Now, maybe someone's made them up.
Maybe someone, there's two different possible stories here,
but Joe Biden's very clean story doesn't match any of the documents that I obtained.
And people say, well, it's a Ukraine prosecution memo.
Why should we trust it?
Well, the answer is, I also have the emails of the Burisma American legal team.
And those emails show that what the,
prosecutor's memo says is actually what those American lawyers said to the prosecutors. I actually
have the invite from Burisma's American lawyer saying, hey, you guys, you got victimized,
come over to the United States. We'll hook you out with the Justice Department. You can clear the
air about this false information. So these facts all add together, and they don't add up to Joe Biden's story.
And that's why I wrote what I wrote last night. All right. So, John, I believe that there is,
with an exception of this new information now,
that there hasn't been anything that Joe Biden or Hunter Biden was doing that was illegal.
It was just grotesque, just grotesque.
Do you agree with that or not?
Listen, I think lawyers make decisions on legality.
I'm not a lawyer.
I'm a reporter.
I can tell you what the ethics standard is for the United States, for all U.S. government officials.
The standard is not only to avoid a conflict of interest,
but to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest.
I think most average people would say,
if Joe Biden knew, which he acknowledged as he did,
that that prosecutor was investigating his son,
he should have left it to somebody else to fire that prosecutor.
Why did he go out of his way to do it?
And when he did it, what did he use?
He used U.S. foreign aid as the hammer.
If you do not fire this guy,
I'm going to bankrupt your country by withholding.
holding $1 billion. Remember, that's what Democrats just accused President Trump of doing, right?
Of course, when the transcript came out, there was no quid pro quo linking U.S. foreign aid to a
request to the Ukrainian president. But in Joe Biden's case, it is irrefutable. He linked U.S. aid
to the forcing of a firing of a prosecutor that he knew was investigating his son's company.
So under that standard, a lot of people will say, well, that is an appearance. Why didn't he step aside?
Why didn't he let somebody else do the job?
Joe Biden hasn't answered those questions yet.
Do I see any criminality?
I'm not a lawyer.
I think we need to see more thing.
My reason for writing the stories is not to accuse someone of breaking the law or committing a crime.
It's to put into the public information the accurate portrayal of what our U.S.
government was doing overseas in Ukraine.
So tell me about what happened after the firing and after the New York Times,
pretty much verifies everything that you're saying and writes a story about Hunter Biden.
And they say, but there is no wrongdoing.
It's just grotesque, no wrongdoing.
Go ahead.
Yeah, there's some interesting storylines that get put out there.
I saw some of this on MSNBC the other day, and they're simply not true.
One of the favorite storylines that Joe Biden's defenders like to throw out there,
at the time Joe Biden effectuated the firing of this prosecutor,
really wasn't an open case. It had been closed in 2015. That's not true. There was a British case
against Parisma's owner that was closed in Great Britain in 2015. But there were two open cases
in Ukraine active at the very moment Joe Biden did. So that's a straw man. It's a false story. But
it's getting into the narrative because the same reporters that wrote about Russia collusion
are now writing about this Ukraine story. It is simply not true. Shokin's affidavit makes clear he was
preparing to interview Hunter Biden. He told that to the Washington Post. He told that to ABC News. He told
that to me. So that's a false storyline. When people are perpetrated in that, you have to ask yourself,
why are they giving the American people a false story? Why don't they just admit, yes, there was an
investigation. Now, one of the most damning pieces of evidence to that narrative is that
Burisma's own American lawyer, John Barrett, gave an interview when the case was all done,
and he laid out the timetable. And he confirmed that one of the criminal cases, the investigation,
investigations in Bresma was closed down nine months after Joe Biden had effectuated the fight, nine months after.
And that the second case was settled with a fine a few days before Barack Obama left office and turned the keys to the White House over to Donald Trump.
So Bresma, his own lawyer, debunks the very storyline that a lot of these media champions of Joe Biden are now putting into the American public.
They're feeding the American public a false story.
And that's what complicates the ability of Americans to make a good judgment on this.
There is bad reporting on this.
Tell me about the New York Times story that comes out,
and Hunter Biden and Devin Archer have a meeting at our State Department.
Yes.
So all we know is there's a text message that Devin Archer sent to one of his business colleagues on December 10th.
It's two days after the New York Times raised the question saying,
Joe Biden's anti-corruption fight in Ukraine is really being hampered by the appearance of his son
because his son worked for this owner, and this owner and this company are currently under investigation.
That is December of 2015.
Now, the next day, at that very moment that that story came out, Joe Biden was in Ukraine, meeting with President Porchenko.
President Porchenko's aides told me on the record that during that meeting,
Joe Biden renewed or pressed again to get Mr. Shokin fired, something that doesn't happen for four more months.
So article comes out.
Joe Biden makes another request to fire the problem.
prosecutor. And then Devin Archer is talking, that's the business partner of Hunter Biden. They're both on the
board of Bresma. They're longtime friends. Devin Archer is somebody that has met with the vice president
during the time he was on Burisma's board. And Devin Archer writes a friend saying, we want to change the
narrative. We just came back, meaning Hunter and him, Hunter and Devin Archer, two business partners,
came back from a meeting at the State Department, and there's going to be some announcement of
USAID money, meaning State Department grant money coming to us. Now, I can't.
can't find that grant, but clearly it references a meeting in December of 2015 around the time of
this negative story by the New York Times. So I have filed before I request. The State Department
did not comply for that, you know, to get records of that meeting, I have now sued, and I expect
over the next few months that I will begin to get documents from the State Department identifying
any and all contacts that Hunter Biden, Joe Biden. How unusual is it, how unusual is it for
for that to happen, for somebody to go into the State Department and change the narrative?
Well, yeah, you know, Americans meet all the time with the State Department, particularly those
Americans that are working overseas, right? And if you're working in Ukraine, it is a volatile
area, right? You've got Russia right next door to you. There's a lot of corruption in Ukraine.
In and on its face, it's not necessarily unusual. It could be entirely appropriate. The idea that
Hunter Biden and his business partner are looking for grant money from the State Department,
which is the inference of this text message.
That stands out.
Again, it's another piece of this narrative of Hunter Biden riding in the vapor trail of his dad's policy wagon and trying to collect.
Joe Biden goes to China.
He brings Hunter Biden with him.
Hunter Biden's firm walks back with a $1.5 billion contract.
Joe Biden is named the point man for Barack Obama, Ukraine.
three weeks later, or a few weeks later, he goes to Ukraine and he meets with the Prime Minister of
Ukraine. This is really extraordinary. You can look at the transcript, because I put it up not
too long ago. Joe Biden meets with the Prime Minister of Ukraine in April of 2014, just a few
weeks before Hunter's name to the board, and he says, you know what, you Ukrainian should start
expanding your natural gas production, and Americans should be here to help you.
In fact, some are here right now getting that process started.
Joe Biden basically lays out the idea that Americans should come and help expand Ukraine's natural gas production.
And what happens within three weeks?
Hunter Biden is added to the board, even though he doesn't seem to have any experience in natural gas.
He doesn't seem to have any long-term experience in Ukraine.
Those are the sort of facts that raised to the question of did this create an appearance of a conflict of interest.
Okay. John Solomon, back with him in just one minute, 60 seconds away.
He has a lot more to explain.
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You know, not by name, but by work.
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He is an award-winning investigative journalist. He has.
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He's worked for the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Associated Press.
He is now the executive vice president of the Hill, and he has been instrumental on the
reporting of what was going on in Ukraine.
I have a theory I want to pass by you here in a few minutes, but first I want to ask you
this, John, is there, is there, they're trying to allude that
you were getting your marching orders from Rudy Giuliani.
That is the inference.
Yeah.
Any, you want to comment on that?
I think if people just simply looked at the public record of what I've done,
you will discover that I began reporting in writing on Ukraine months before Rudy Giuliani
says he ever began investigating Ukraine.
I can tell you some of my early sources, because they're clear now from my stories,
were Democrats working for Ukrainians who were concerned about what went on inside Ukraine during the 2016 election.
I can tell you that the Ukraine embassy provided me a statement that Mr. Giuliani and his team never played a role in,
confirming that the Democratic National Committee asked Ukraine to interfere in the 2016 election,
that the Ukraine government ultimately turned down that request.
I can confirm to you that I wrote a series of stories or a story about Mr. Furtt,
Tash's case, a Ukrainian, a Ukrainian oligarch that is intertwined with Joe Biden in the 2016 period.
Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with that story.
It was actually driven by a Democratic lawyer.
Okay. All right. John, I got to take another break. I want to come back.
I want to go in and I want to talk to you about the ambassador that has been fired, what that story is all about,
and what kind of things were going on do you believe now through your reporting in Ukraine during 2016?
How deep does this go?
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Welcome to the program.
I'm glad you're here.
We have John Solomon on from the Hill.
He is an award-winning investigative journalist,
worked for the New York Times,
the Washington Post, the Washington Times,
the Associated Press.
He's the executive vice president of the Hill.
He has been following this Ukraine story
longer than I think anyone else
and is instrumental in understanding
what really was going on.
was investigating Joe Biden and all of these things long before the whistleblower, you know,
was concerned about anything long before Rudy Giuliani was involved.
John, let me just clarify one.
Let me go back to one question about the whistleblower and what he said.
All of the evidence that is in this whistleblower's case, it all pretty much stems from
your reporting because he says the timing of your stories and.
And the meetings with Rudy Giuliani are just too coincidental.
Can you tell me that did you look at anything in that whistleblower and go, well, gee, wait a minute, was I, were these stories routed my way without me knowing it?
Or were you contacted, hey, do these stories?
Is there anything to that?
There is not. I will tell you that I choose the timing of my stories based on when I can get information confirmed through multiple sources. And one of the challenges I had for a long time was that Ukrainian officials wanted to make allegations anonymously. And I did not feel that was an appropriate way to tell the story. So I worked extra long and extra hard, almost a year to get some of these
story is written and corroborated and put on the record, meaning actual documents or actual people
on record. All my interviews with Ukrainian officials were videotaped. They're on the Hill TV site.
You can see them. I was as transparent as I could possibly be. Every document I obtained,
I tried to embed in a story unless it compromised the source's identity. I have tried to be as
open and honest about how I got the information, where it came from, who gave it to me.
And a journalist makes his decision not because a president's lawyer or a Democratic lawyer or any
other person wants it out. We make that decision when we know we have enough information to be
accurate and to be fair and to be complete and transparent. And every decision I made to publish a
story was made on my timetable based on my journalistic training as to what the best time was
to break a story, to corroborate a story, to get fair common.
And I think that's one of the silliness of this entire narrative,
which is anyone who's seen my career and the stories I've broken.
I've broken stories that have been big and controversial for many years.
People, the Bush administration, criticized me after 9-11,
until I really got the story out there about what happened about 9-11.
I've been an equal opportunity reporter my entire career.
And I've practiced journalism the same way, whether President Trump was in office, President Clinton was in office, President Bush was in office, or President Obama.
And I think that that's the hard part, is watching this narrative now trying to portray me as a journalist who was a shill from cause.
The only cause I had was to get truth to the American people.
All right, John, can you explain one part of this story that is new to me?
And that is the conversation between.
Trump and the new president of Ukraine in regards to the firing of a U.S. ambassador.
Can you tell me her story?
Sure.
So Marie Ivanovich was a Obama appointee career diplomat by all accounts, an accomplished career diplomat.
And she was appointed in the summer of 2016 when all of this stuff with Burisma was going on,
when all of the stuff with Firtash was going on, all of these complicated.
relations were going on in Ukraine.
So she comes in and then she stays on for President Trump for a couple of years.
I reported earlier this year that two things.
Prosecutor General Lucenko, now former prosecutor, but at the time the current prosecutor,
gave an interview and he said, I have had problems dealing with your American ambassador
because she came in almost as soon as she came in, she met with me and she went over a list of
names, she did not want people to be prosecuted. And he backed up his story by actually giving
me a letter from the embassy showing one really clear instance where the embassy actually said,
you will not pursue, we don't want you to pursue a criminal case against this George Soros-funded
group called Antak. It's in bold writing. Wow. The State Department sent a letter to Ukraine
prosecutors saying we don't want interfering in an internal prosecution, in a sovereign nation,
saying don't prosecute these guys. So he backed up his story and he went into great detail. Before I
broke that story, I took the list of names of people. He said Ambassador Yovanovitch and others
had given them. And I went to the State Department and State Department officials on background
confirmed that some of those names were raised in conversations and the United States raised
concerns about Ukrainian authorities pursuing these organizations or people.
So before I ever broke that story, I got confirmation from.
the State Department. The story came out. The embassy issued a denial, which, by the way, was in my story. The day I broke the story was in my story. So I gave the State Department side, even though on background they had confirmed some of these names had been done, and they had corroborated the letter that I possessed in my story, and I posted in my story. So that's the first time we knew there was a problem. I also obtained a letter from a Republican Congressman to President Trump that was a few months before,
prosecutor general Lucenko, the Ukrainian prosecutor, gave me my interview. In that letter,
a Republican congressman who had just, I believe, returned from a trip to Ukraine, said,
I was overseas, and there are a lot of people in Ukraine concerned that this ambassador
is not representing your interest. And, you know, the inference was that maybe she was
badmouting the Trump administration of the president. So there was a second concern for why
the president might want to remove Ambassador Yovina. The third,
instance comes in the conversation with President Trump.
And this is a remarkable thing.
The brand new president, President Zelensky, a comic and a reformer,
and somebody that a lot of the world is excited could possibly turn a corner for Ukraine,
make Ukraine less corrupt, more integrated into the world community.
One of the first things he thanks President Trump for is for removing Ambassador Yovanovitch.
And he said that she simply wouldn't recognize him and meet,
with him after his election and that he felt like she acted in such a way as to convey that
she supported the old president whom he had defeated, then rather than they recognized the new
elected leader of Ukraine. Those are the typical grounds for which an ambassador can be
recalled. Ambassador Yovanovitch may not have done anything wrong, but when the country you're in
no longer feels comfortable dealing with you, that is a legitimate grounds for recalling an ambassador
and substituting someone else because we need to have a functional relationship with our allies.
That is why that happened.
And I think you look, there are several stories today attacking me for writing that story about Ambassador Yovinavich.
I think President Zelensky's comments in the transcript validate why I wrote the story.
Yeah.
All right.
The whole country was worried about her.
So, John, I'm going to take a quick break and I want to come back.
And I want you to zoom out if you can.
I think I understand what's really going on, but I would like your guidance and, you know, is this, is this in the ballpark?
And if I'm right, I am, we are facing something that I'm not sure America has faced before.
This is, say, an epic battle that is about to be unleashed.
and it really has very little to do with what the press is saying.
And I'll explain that and get your thoughts on that.
When we return with John Solomon, you can follow him at J. Solomon reports,
Executive Vice President of the Hill, investigative journalist,
and not anyone's shill, as I think you can hear.
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This is the Glenback program.
John Solomon is here.
John, I don't know if this is a blessing or curse, but I look at things big picture.
I'm not good at the small little details.
If I look at puzzle pieces, I'm trying to figure out what does this mean if you fit them all together?
What does the picture show us?
And I want to run this by you to see if I'm on the right track.
I think in the end, what we may be looking at is that the Obama administration,
the U.S. State Department through his administration and the DNC thought they kind of had
Ukraine all locked down.
And there were people enriching themselves through really shady deals like Biden.
But the DNC was using it through, I think, NGOs to further their goals.
in a deep state sort of way.
Also had unofficial challenges
to maybe get some of the dirty work done
and some of the connections that nobody wanted anybody to have
to find things like, you know, Donald Trump is one example of that.
And Biden is a small part of this.
Biden is really not the thing they're protecting.
What they're protecting is something really dirty
was happening with Intel, justice, and state,
in Ukraine and they're really protecting this and that's why the Democrats are freaking out so much
and know they have to discredit this story. Am I on the right track at all?
That's a great question. Let me tell you something. The very first time I entered into
reporting in Ukraine, which was in the spring of 2018, so well over a year and a half ago,
I met with a Ukrainian official who had been highly recommended by some of my U.S.
intelligence sources. And I said to, listen, we're winding down the Russia thing. I'm pretty sure I know
what happened on Russia, right? It was a political dirty trick. There never was collusion. And I think
that's going to be the outcome of the Mueller report. I had good sources inside the Mueller team.
And I was pretty much certain by that time that Russia. And the guy looked at me straight out and he
said, Ukraine is the Democrats to Russia. And I said, I'm sorry, what do you mean by that?
Well, if the story of Trump and Russia colluding were true, the Democrats' problem is Ukraine.
They have this complicated relationship in Ukraine that involves pressuring the Ukrainian embassy.
And then you've got George Soros, a mega donor who plays a very big role in Ukraine through his NGOs.
You've got Joe Biden being the point person, Hunter Biden making money in the country.
Ukraine may have been both a piggy bank in a political dirty jerks arena for the Democrats.
Democrats in the way that Donald Trump was portrayed with playing with Russia. I thought that to be a
very enlightened comment. And I think the more we put facts together, that storyline seems to be
unfolding. We have a lot more that needs to be done. I think there are things that Senate and the
State Department can do to give us more visibility on this. But something was going on in
Ukraine, and I'm not the only one who has said so. The New York Times, the ABC News, Politico, have all
written very compelling stories, raising questions about the Democrats' conduct in Ukraine
and our own U.S. government's conduct in Ukraine. And I think that that may be the real
story here. The Democrats may not want people poking in their dirty laundry inside Kiev.
I feel strongly that that is the right track. Now, if that is, there is more than just
money at stake. You were dealing with some of the nastiest people, George Soros being one of them,
that have all kinds of strings. You've said it when you first got on. Was the Intel agency listening
to my phone calls? Are they tracking me? What are they doing? I mean, it puts this story becomes
extraordinarily dangerous. This puts you into the position of Woodward and Bernstein. Yeah.
I would never put myself in that gallery.
There were two reporters that broke an epic story.
Listen, you're only as good as your next story.
And we need to just keep digging.
And all of our, all reporters, myself included, should learn the lesson of Russia,
which is presuming people are guilty before you have the facts is a bad idea.
The media harmed its credibility by convicting Trump before they knew what happened.
We shouldn't convict Hunter Biden or Joe Biden or anyone.
I agree.
She'd get the facts.
The fact that people are holding back these facts does raise questions.
What is there to hide there?
Let's all dig in and find out.
But the problem is there's another narrative that is being spun by the press,
and that will dismiss the real, that that will lead to, you know, we've seen it with Clinton,
we saw it with Russia, we see it over and over again.
People are just get, they're done with it.
By the time you get to the real thing, they're done with it.
And the media is running this other story.
story that is flat out true. And if this, if, I say, if this other is true, it is going to blow the lid
off of a lot of places and dramatically clean this country up.
Well, I've always believed transparency is the best solution for the country. In our times of
greatest crisis, being transparent and being honest has been the way that our country has gotten
past controversy, crisis, impeachment, all the different things that have happened in our
great history. I think we will get transparency. I think the lawsuit I'm fighting in the State
Department. I think some things that Senators Grassley and Johnson are doing. I think some things
that Dmiti Firtas's lawyers in Europe are doing, the Ukrainian oligarch who got crossways with
Obama. We're going to learn a lot. And the key for me is not to overreact all these silly attacks.
Just go back and get another good story. Keep reporting it out. That's what I'm going to do,
and I know you will do that too. John, thank you so much. John Solomon from the Hill.
I think one of the last really great reporters that is not looking at things emotionally and just going for the facts.
You can follow him at Jay Solomon Reports.
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