The Glenn Beck Program - Charlie Kirk: Civil Rights Icon | Guests: Max Lucado & John Solomon | 9/12/25

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Glenn announces he has started a fundraiser for Charlie Kirk’s wife and children. In major news, President Trump announced with a high degree of certainty that the alleged assassin has been captured and is in custody. Glenn argues that we should stop referring to Charlie Kirk as a conservative activist. Instead, we should call him a civil rights leader who was martyred because of his influence. Just the News CEO and editor in chief John Solomon joins to discuss what we know about the man who is in custody for allegedly assassinating Charlie Kirk. Glenn and John also discuss the dangers of using this atrocity to implement bad legislation. Glenn speaks with his viewers about their thoughts on Charlie’s assassination. Stu reveals some of the information about Charlie’s alleged assassin. Reports indicate that Charlie's alleged assassin was radicalized by the belief that conservatives are fascist. Oak Hills Church teaching minister Max Lucado joins to discuss Charlie Kirk’s assassination and how to process this horror without losing ourselves to the darkness. Glenn discusses the importance of having compassion for the parents and family of Charlie Kirk's alleged killer.  If you are able, please donate at https://www.givesendgo.com/912Project. All proceeds go to the Kirk family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Embrace the fire. Entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. As this starts today, I say to myself out loud, I am not going to cry on today's show. I haven't felt this way since 9-11. My emotions are also jumbled. and tangled up inside, and I think I'm fine for a while. I think I'm fine for a while.

Then all of a sudden I just burst out into tears again. It is 9-12. That is an important date, at least in my world, in the history of this broadcast, because 9-12, the day after 9-11, is when America came together and did the right thing. And we started back in 2008, something called the 9-12 project. It was kind of an offshoot, if you want. will of the Tea Party that I was trying to make sure we were rooted in principles, not just in policies. And I want to talk to you a little bit about that. And I'm calling everyone in this audience

to say thank you to Charlie, his family, and the turning point. You know, Charlie came from this audience. He was a kid when he started watching me on Fox and listening to me on the radio. And we talked about it so many times together. And he was always so much. gracious to me and I just I want to do everything I can to make sure that I am saying thank you back to him and I've my wife and I were talking about his wife and children and I know they're going to be taking care of but you know he was young and they've had a long life and road ahead of them and so does the family a turning point and so I'm starting a a give Send Go fundraiser today that I would just like to ask you if you have at all felt at all

like Charlie Kirk or Turning Point has affected you that you recognize the impact that that one man made would you would you go to give send go dot com slash 912 project give send go slash giftsendgo.com slash 912 project is going to provide for the family and I know there are other fundraisers.

It's going to provide for the family and his children, but also at his wife's discretion to the Turning Point USA mission as well. They've lost their biggest fundraiser in Charlie and they are just broken up. They're just broken up.

And God bless them. I want you to know. We're thinking about you. We love you. much and we're very, very grateful. I am not going to cry today for everything that you have done. So go to give sendgo.com slash 912 project. Okay, so we have some news, breaking news, just about an hour ago. The president said that we high level of certainty have the person responsible in custody. We're going to talk about that. We also have John Solomon on joining us. He'll give us

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Yeah. All rolled up into a week. I was yesterday, I was thinking, it's like, is it Sunday? It just feels like this week has just never ended. And this morning, the president is on Fox and Friends. And is he still on? He was on for like an hour. Yeah, about an hour. Sitting in the studio.

I spoke to him, what, night before last. And it was like midnight. And I had never heard him sound tired. He sounded really tired. and, you know, I completely understand it. But the guy just does not stop. And, you know, the press, you know, people in the press are saying, have you seen him? I think he had a stroke.

Look at the way he's, look at the way he looks. He looks like he had a stroke. He didn't have a stroke. Stop it. The guy is tired. And yet he is still has more energy than I've never seen a president like this. Never seen a president. like this. And I, as I said to him on the phone the other day, thank you. I thank God you are our

president right now. Thank you for this and everything that he is doing. Anyway, let me roll with what he announced on Fox and Friends just a minute ago. And it is interesting the way he phrased this. Listen closely. Any updates on the suspect? Yeah. Can I always say, I think, just to protect us all. And so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else. But I think

with a high degree of certainty, we have him. Right now. In custody, right? In custody, everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor.

Everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. And we started off with the clip that made up look like an ant that was almost useless.

We just saw there was somebody up there. And so much work has been done over the last two and a half days. You know, it's amazing, actually, when you start off with that and then all of a sudden you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah, I think we're in great shape. That is good news. I was laying in bed this morning as I woke up and I thought, how is it we don't have this guy yet? And of all places, Utah, where you would think, other than the mountains, you would not be able to hide. You know, this is, is such a, at least the area that Charlie was in. This is as deep red as you can get,

except for the university, which I have a few comments on the university that I'm going to share a little later on. Sorry, I'm a little feisty today. Yesterday, I was, you know, morning. I'm still in mourning, but I am, I think I'm at my anger stage, my full flex, full throttle anger stage today. And I have a few things to say, and I think they need to be said. But I'll try to say him with love and compassion as much as I possibly can, but with as much clarity as this deserves. So, what do we know about this guy? We know the name now. And I, I don't want to say the name. No, no. It might, it might come in, be important later, but it's not important now. I don't want to make this guy famous. But tell me what we do know. Not a whole lot. What we do.

do know, and I'm just, yeah, just the straight up facts as we know them at the moment, is that apparently the name was confirmed via some law enforcement sources to the New York Post. They have posted this individual's name. We know that somebody who was very close to him, I believe it who was his father, was the one that turned him in, and they worked through a minister that was close to the family who helped facilitate this. That's pretty much all we know. I've seen this person kind of

Was the word minister used? Minister, yes Okay. Yeah. I'd seen the internet is insane. I saw that over 7,000 tips went to the FBI and law enforcement to try and catch this person. I got a disturbing tip yesterday. You were with me.

A friend of our family who the child went to this university and said, I think I know who this guy is. and the FBI is overwhelmed and we can't talk to anybody in the FBI. It turns out it wasn't. It was somebody who was, it turned out, I think they were too old. You know, they were probably five years older than this guy.

But just their tip to us was disturbing. And we investigated, you know, and said, we'll get it to the FBI, you know, if we think there's something to it. But my team investigated it and it turned out that there wasn't anything to it. But just that was disturbing. I mean, people,

there are a lot of really disturbed people that do all kinds of things that you never ever hear about and 7,000 tips it's remarkable that they could sort through all of them and get to this guy. Yeah, and you can, I mean, now, you'd always see that like on TV shows and stuff.

They'd be like, you know, if we open up the tip line, it almost makes the job harder. Right now, the internet X, you know, other places like that, almost kind of mimic that, but to the public square. So everyone's got these very, very convincing, you know, arguments and theories. And everyone thought they pretty much identified who this was. It still could be.

We're not entirely sure if it was. But, you know, we're going to hold off as we have been and look into every single one of them. So are you familiar with what Charlie's last tweet was? Yes. He said, if we want things to change, it's 100% necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Irina Zerutska. because it was politics that allowed a savage monster with 14 priors to be free on the streets to kill her. A little kind of prophetic in a way, we're now talking about his monstrous murder. This guy will get the death penalty.

The governor of Utah has already said, it'll be to the fullest extent of the law, and I remind you in Utah, we still have the death penalty. I remember I was living in Utah when I was young. It was about 18 years old and Ted Bundy was about to be killed. Remember, they caught him in Utah and they tried him in Utah and killed him in Utah. And I remember, because they still, I think, I don't know if they still do, I think they still have the firing squad. And, you know, all these people are lined up and I think only one of them has a live bullet or something like that.

And so you don't know if you were the one that, you know, actually killed. but they line you up and you volunteer for it. And they had so many people sign up to be a member of the firing squad for him. I would imagine if they still have the firing squad, that it is going to be, there's going to be a lot of volunteers on that one, which is weird, bizarre, and sad, but I am glad this guy will get the firing squad, or we'll get capital punishment because this guy changed absolutely everything.

Do we know anything? I know we have John Solomon on in just a few minutes, but do we know anything about the LGBTQ transgender stuff, the engravings or the writings on any of those bullets? Do we know if that's true yet? So we know that that was as reported by multiple outlets and apparently confirmed through the Wall Street Journal. I think it actually started with Stephen Crowder and then confirmed through...

You hear the Stephen Crowder? Did you hear this, too? Stephen Crowder is being investigated. They called him in and they're investigating him now. What are they investing in for? I think because of the leaks, they want to know he's being subpoenaed or something, want to know how he got all of this information so early and, you know, this administration doesn't like leaks.

And so I don't know what's happening. with Stephen. We've, you know, haven't had any conversations for a long time. But, you know, he was accurate. It looks like he was accurate. So he had good, you know, good sources on this one. But should those sources have leaked it to him first? Yeah, that's not Stevens problem, though.

I mean, that's it. No, it's not. No, no, no. As any journalistic institution should have protection over being able to acquire especially accurate news information. So hopefully that's not true. Well, I don't think he's,

I shouldn't say he's in trouble. I shouldn't admit it like that way. I would, anytime I'm called by the police for any reason, I feel like I'm in trouble. You know what I mean? I think they're just trying to get his sources. And as a journalist, you know, he'll say, sorry. You know, he'll protect his sources, I'm sure.

But this administration does not like leaks at all, at all. Yeah. Can I say it? I, it's, we've been screwed on the government withholding a lot of this information so much. I'm sure there's people within these law enforcement agencies also feel the same way. Like, this information needs to get out to the public. They, they need to know. How many times have we had a manifesto, you know, that was just immediately taken?

Or social media immediately scrubbed, we have no information. People are tired of that. Yeah. By the way, today I'm going to take your phone calls. I want to get to, um, I want to get to, um, uh, I want to get to, uh, John Solomon here in just a minute. And then I want to take your phone calls because, you know, we've heard from all of the friends of Charlie Kirk,

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And we, you know, we don't have to, we can jump on somebody else's fundraiser. And I'm not doing this. So, you know, let me just sit there, put this way. I'm sorry, I'm so tied up inside today last couple of days. The reason why I wanted to do this is I think it's important for us, for you. Charlie came from our audience. He was a member of our audience. And I think it's important that we as an audience have a way to say thank you to him.

Because he changed everything. I mean, I don't think the president would be the president today if it wasn't Charlie Kirk in Turning Point USA. and it's going to be a big loss this next turn. I mean, the plans that TPSA have been making for 28, is that right? 2028 are enormous. And we need to keep them going. And I would just like to make sure that his family is taken care of, his sweet, dear children. That is a long, scary road.

I was thinking about my wife as I was driving yesterday. and I thought, I mean, I've saved my whole life. I've tried to make sure that they're okay. And, you know, my kids are not two years old. And it would still be scary and hard. So I just want to make sure that they're taking care of. And I want you to have the opportunity. I am not going to cry today to say, thank you.

So we have set up a 9-12 project. give send go i want you to go to give send go dot com slash 912 project and give what you can just even if it's a dollar just to say thank you um to charlie kirk his family and to the people at turning point USA i was really flattered and honored um they called me yesterday and asked me if i would sit in literally sit in Charlie's chair next week and fill in for two days for him on his network and his internet and radio broadcast and I am honored to do that and so I will be with his people next week doing my show and then his show from Turning Point USA but give sendgo.com slash 912.

Just say thank you to his family and let his family know, including the turning point family. We are there and we know what you've done. We know what you've sacrificed. And keep going. Keep going. All right. John Solomon from Just the News is next. He's going to fill us in on all of the latest news.

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She is. You see, she's coming out. There's Erica coming out at the top of the stairs. And she's holding Mrs. Vance's hand. You see, Charlie's wife just looks like she's just, you know, like a widow who you know, like Jackie O. looked when she arrived back home in Washington, D.C. Cut 10, they're loading Charlie's body into a hearse yesterday to bring it home. You see one of the pallbearers is J.D. Vance.

And I, again, I find myself saying this all the time. This is something I've never seen before in my life. I have never seen Well, I've never seen an assassination I've seen an assassination attempt twice in my life But I've never seen an assassination of anyone in my life in America And And then I don't remember this from the history books

You know, having our vice president Our president involved at this level Moving the body back home The vanses are I think they're remarkable people. I think he's going to be an incredible president. I think he is going to be an incredible president. But we, you know, with the Vance is, usually a society gets what it deserves.

I'm not sure we deserve the Vance family at this point. Here is when the plane touched down, Air Force 2, when the plane touched down, here's the welcome home from the tower. Listen. May God bless your family. I will not cry. President Trump said later this month, the funeral will be held,

and he is planning on attending. And I'm assuming that that will be in Phoenix, where they will lay him to rest. You know, I think we need to stop calling Charlie Kirk, an activist or anything else, I don't, a political figure. It is time to, it's time to call him what he really was. Because of what he died doing, Charlie Kirk is a civil rights icon. Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader that was martyred standing up for civil rights.

and it is time that our side declares that and stands on that and claims that territory. These so-called civil rights leaders that have been around for the last 30 years are jokes. They're money hustlers, they're dividers, and they have nothing, nothing to do with civil rights. Martin Luther King was a civil rights leader. Martin Luther King was that man. RFK Jr. could even be called a civil rights leader. JFK could be called a civil rights leader. They led.

They led the way. Everyone else was just playing it for cash and for power. And I'm sick of it. Charlie Kirk died standing up and trying to show people how to exercise your civil right in a civilized manner and they gunned him down before him because of it. It's time to start calling him

Charlie Kirk, the civil rights leader. You have John on? Yeah, John, how are you? Thank you for coming on today. I'm well, go ahead. I'm well, thank you. I couldn't agree more with what you just said. You're right on the money. So John Stossel, or John Solomon,

sorry, John Solomon from Just the News. John, we have apparently the guy in custody. What do we know about this? So we believe he's a man that looks just like the photo. We believe that after the FBI put out the photos and had some other information they were pursuing about friends and affiliates of this shooter that the father and minister apparently played a role in getting this man to surrender. We don't know much more than that. Hold on just a sec, John.

Would you do me a favor and would you check? Because everybody's using the word minister. And in Utah, the word would be bishop. If he was an LDS member, it would have been bishop. And I'm interested to know if it was. I don't have that level of detail. I've been asking, obviously, because it is Utah. And you think that way.

But we don't know. It's only been described by law enforcement to me as a minister or a clergy person. So we don't know more than that. Hopefully we'll know more soon. But you're right. The right question is asked. we've been asking it. And they're still

interrogating. They're still doing search warrants and other things, but they feel pretty confident based on the way this came through. And I think the question now becomes, in what circle was this young man working and what ideology was he lured into?

It sounds like he comes from a good family. Obviously, a family, if the actor about the father's cooperation, even doing the right thing at a painful moment like this. But in what What circle was he walking and where was he getting radicalizing? What was the ideology driving this? And I think we're going to learn a lot about some entities and groups in Utah that will maybe give us some sense of what was festering right below our noses. This is a problem

on social media, particularly in the last five years. We've allowed a lot of different ideologies and groups to fester and they're picking off our children, even children that come in good homes. And we'll have to just wait and see, but that's the early assessment I've gotten from law enforcement, a lot of parts to be filled in, but they feel very confident they have the man and that the dangers of the public has diminished. That doesn't bring much solace to Charlie Kirk's family, but knowing the guys in custody, I think is good for the entire country. I have been informed and without revealing, you know, any specifics, but I have been informed that they are looking into groups that may have been involved.

You know, this is kind of like, where was it, in Texas, the shooters where they had people that were helping. It was coordinated. And have you heard anything about a possible coordination that it wasn't just, you know, duping some kid and brainwashing some kid, but it was, there was, actual coordination and possibly foreign coordination. They're looking at some things. I don't think they've come to an assessment yet. I was familiar yesterday and about a look at a couple of groups that they were looking at.

And I don't think they've made a full assessment. I think that's why the debriefing and getting his phone, getting his computer, getting his video gaming connections, anything that that's the part of the phase that they're in now. There was some leads that they were looking at that pointed to, as I said on TV the last couple days, some possible. There was a tip from a foreign country about some operating entities in this area of Utah that might have been involved. It was just a tip. I think they're trying to put those pieces together.

We'll find out more in the day or so, but they're open to that possibility. I don't think they've closed down a certain certitude to it yet. Yeah. Tell me what you know about, what's his name, Sky Valaldez. Is that it? Yeah. He is the, the guy who apparently had a SoundCloud account. And on August 7th, he posted something Charlie Kirk dead at 31.

And he's had a couple of other things like that that he has posted in the last few months. Do we know anything about this guy? No, I don't yet. I'm aware of the reports. I know that the FBI is aware of the reports. I don't know whether they have found any relevancy to that or whether it's just a provocateur. We just don't know. I've not been able to reach this gentleman.

We're trying to do due diligence. But I know of no reason at this moment of a connection other than these reports and the sound cloud. We understand that. I know the FBI was aware of it. But, you know, there's chatter all the day. One of the great challenges in the world we live in today was so many people wanting to be provocators. So many people wanting to express hatred. We've mainstream hatred.

We've made it fashionable in certain circles of young people. It's almost shocking to be, but you're sorting through. And when you're the FBI and you've got a thousand leads, some are provocateurs. You got it out of provocateur. Is that the guy about to commit the next murder? You don't know. And I think that's one of the things. I think the bigger lesson from this is we've allowed a culture of hatred and intolerance

to literally boil over to the idea now that people don't have any prohibition talking about wanting to kill someone in an open space. I mean, most murderers are secretive. people are talking about those ambitions. Look at the gentleman that was rolled up in North Carolina a couple days ago, talking on YouTube, I'm going to kill a bunch of kids in a school. We've allowed this culture to boil into a place where it is very dangerous. Any person could be a stick of dynamite lit, and I think that's what's dangerous. Those who like this culture deserve to be held accountable.

We've got to start holding those who are boiling the water accountable. And I have to tell you, the biggest group that I have seen, I mean, I, I've been, thank God for the ladies at the view. There's been a lot of people that have come out with good statements, et cetera, et cetera, and condemned all of this. But the biggest group of people that seem to be celebrating are teachers. And I find it interesting that the president of UVU, President to Munez, has not made a statement at all.

The university did. But the university president didn't make any statement. on this. And I think that's an abomination. And I would like to know why. What are her feelings? Yeah. Those are important questions. And you're right. Academia has been a big part of the radicalization of the last two generations, millennial and Gen Z. Gen Z's trending more conservative in general. But there are segments of it that are getting poisoned. And there's this I, there's this romanticism of righteous revolution, which is basically sanctioning hatred. and sanctioning violence and sancting and justify the means.

And I believe in free speech, even if you're stupid, you're entitled to your free speech. But we have to find that line where we protect people from the exercise of free speech when it targets a vulnerable person who's capable of being turned into a weapon. And we don't know enough about this case to make that assessment yet. But we do know many painful cases before Charlie Kirk's assassination, where that is the importer and footprint. And I think everyone that's in the business of education, everyone that's in the business of media, those who showed such bad taste on new shows, I'd never thought in my life I would live to a time to see journalists exhibit some of the behavior I saw on new shows in the immediate aftermath of Charlie Ferdin fascination. We all have a responsibility to clean this up if we're going to keep kids from going down.

Yes. And we're not having a serious enough conversation about it. We do it for a day or two and then we move on. but it's still festering. And our enemies, China, Iran, Russia, they're helping boil it. I was watching in real time as we were doing our work on Charlie Kirk and trying to break stories and keep people informed watching a bot farm, numerous bot farms, foreign bot farms, trying to inflame our dialogue. And so our enemies know we're vulnerable to it, and they're adding to these great.

And then we got a tough situation. I have a lot of confidence that we're at a moment of clarity. and I think there'll be a lot of responsibility in the next few days and maybe this suspect's story will shake us all to the ground enough to start coming up with solutions because we started talking about it with the Virginia Tech and Columbine shootings. We haven't come to grips with what's happening in the social media era.

But we'll get there. I have confidence that Americans can get the right thing done. So, John, would you just this a personal request? Because I trust you and I've watched you, read you, and listened to you for a very long. time and I think you are really a truly an honorable American. Thank you. I am concerned the last time we went through something like this, we came up with the Patriot Act,

and that was a really bad thing. And would you, I would ask that if you see anything brewing like that from either side, their side, our side, anybody's side, that you would alert me and alert America as soon as and early as you see any kind of inklings arising of that. We cannot go too far the other way. No, listen, you know where this is going to start? It's going to start in our homes and our churches and our communities. That's where it's rightfully fixed.

It's where we all got, it's where we all got. I mean, COVID kind of woke us up. Like, what's going out in our schools? I know. We have to fix this. We have government's not going to fix this. We have to fix it as a people. And hopefully this is a moment of clarity for all of us.

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I don't know if you remember the 912 project. It is something that I started when I was at Fox. I was concerned that we were going to be all about policies when the Tea Party started. And I felt we needed to balance the Tea Party with a reminder of the principles and the values that built our country. And so we started the 912 project. and it was all about education and growing the next generation. Charlie Kirk was part of that audience. Charlie Kirk was one of those kids at the time we were talking about

and counting on that would rise up and change the world and how Charlie Kirk did change the world. 9-12 project has not been doing anything for a long time. What I heard from a lot of them over the last couple of days, because again, Charlie Kirk came from that era of this show. He was part of our audience. And I wanted to give myself and you an opportunity to stand as an audience. You know, this is the most watched and listened to radio podcast in all of America.

It's an enormous audience. And you have done some incredible things. and I feel it's important that we have the opportunity as individuals to say thank you personally. And you may not be able to go to the funeral. You may never shake or hug Erica, Kirk. You may never be able to get close enough to say thank you personally. And I want them to know the family. And I want everybody at TPUSA to know how.

grateful I am as an individual. And the way that we can do that is we've started a GoFundMe page or a Give Send Go page. I want to make sure I get that right. And the Give Send Go page, you can go to right now, it's give send go.com slash 912 project. I put it in a ridiculous number up, a goal of $10 million because I know that his children, I was thinking about this yesterday, his children are young, really young. And Tanya and I were talking about it. He could have insurance and whatever. And I said, honey, you remember when I was in my 40s and we started having children

and no matter how much money we were making and Charlie was not making the money we were making, it was still, if I would have died, it wouldn't have covered it. It wouldn't have happened because you have the whole life in front. And I read something from Erica today. She said, there was a scare they thought Charlie had been shot a while ago. And he was rushed to the hospital and she didn't know what was going on. And she was thinking, and this came from the time, not recent, from the time that she was going through it, she said, I don't know if I can raise my children and get them back to heaven without him.

And it is such an amazing family, and I want them to know how much we love them and how grateful we are for the sacrifice that she and her children have given. So if you would like to be a part of this, go to give sendgo.com slash 912 project. Now, if Erica decides that at some point the family has enough, I know her well enough to know that we can trust her with this

and she can direct the proceeds to TPSA to continue their project if they want but she'd have control of this fund and quite honestly I know this is not going to happen but when a founder dies things can go awry because others can come in and I know this is not going to happen with TPO USA but it will give Erica a chance also to make sure that Charlie's goals are a rock solid in the years to come as well. So please go to give sendgo.com slash 912 project.

I'm asking for an impossible number. But I would like to give us the opportunity to make a big impact and say thank you not only to her family, but also the people at TPSA. Guys, you are not alone. You are loved. You are appreciated. and you are so critical to 2028 and beyond. You cannot stop.

You have to continue to do what you're doing because you made all the difference last time. And quite honestly, just politically speaking, the left is hoping that you are out now. GiveSendgo.com slash 912 project. More in just a second. I want to take your phone calls now. 888-7-27-B-E-C-K.

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Good Ranchers.com promo code Beck. Welcome to the table. All right. Let me go. to Michaela in Ohio. Hello, Michaela. Hi, thank you so much for having me today. I'm with the abortion survivors network. I was born in an abortion clinic. It was estimated that I was born in the late second trimester, early third trimester,

based on my lack of development. So Charlie played a huge role in me sharing my story. He had actually been one of the first major people to repost it early on in me sharing. And I was in shock. I still really felt like nobody would care. No one would want to hear what I had to say. He encouraged myself and others to continue to share and fight courageously.

So as we're preparing here for our 40 Days for Life, where I'm actually helping to kick it off here in Cincinnati and prayer and in fasting, I really just wanted to say with myself, alongside our local leaders here in Ohio from Butler, Clark County, my dear friends at Moms for Liberty in Madison County in Cuyahoga, you know, the greenup mayor and his sweet fiancee, we are all grieving with you and the nation. And we've all made vows to carry on the torch for Charlie. A reporter yesterday said that Charlie didn't point left, he didn't point right. He pointed up. And that's what we need to continue to do. And perhaps, just perhaps, this country is at its turning point. You know, it's amazing. Thank you, Michaela. Thank you for all that you do. And thank you for sharing that.

It is amazing that Charlie, I don't believe in coincidence. And Charlie called his organization turning point. And his life and now his death. It truly is the turning point. His life was the turning point that won the last election. What he did and what TPSA did in the last election. That was a turning point. now in his death is an even bigger turning point.

And I think there is going to be a revival in this nation. And I believe this is one of the big turning points that will point to that. I also am a little haunted today. You know, when I was thinking about naming my new venture that starts in January, the torch came to me. And part of it was because of the blaze. and, you know, that's a big fire and now just take your individual torch

and put it in, take that fire and carry it yourself. And I find it remarkable coincidence that everyone is now saying about picking up the torch and picking up Charlie's torch. And I wonder how much God had a role in picking that name and picking the name of Turning Point because they all seem so appropriate today. Ryan in Utah, you were at the event.

Hello? Yes, go ahead, Ryan. Brian, but yeah. Okay, sorry, Brian. It's okay. I was at the event. I was maybe 10, 15 feet away from him. I was right in the front row.

How old are you, Brian? What? How old are you? How old are you? I'm 19 Please tell me You didn't actually See the impact and the after

Did you? I had an unobstructed view I saw it perfectly I am so sorry But there's something that I really Really want to talk about that I haven't heard anybody Speak of yet And that's what Charlie's real last conversation was

I mean, I've been listening to Charlie Kirk for years. He's changed my life, and he's increased my faith in God. And the last, like, the first question he took, which was the only question he really took, he ended it with bearing his testimony about his savior of Jesus Christ, and that he believed that Jesus Christ rose from the dead and the resurrection. and then he sealed that testimony in his blood. And people need to know, like, that was his very last stand was with God. And there was hell unleashed before my eyes, and it was insane.

But we need to know that there was also the spirit, and God is with us, and God can be with us and turn this into a movement to try. our country and to eradicate these evils, we need to turn to Christ now and to pray. Because prayer works, the only thing that was able to calm me down. And my friends who were there, we just pray. Brian, thank you so much. You're right on. And I think that is the turning point.

I really do. I think, you know, what a way to go. I mean, I don't mean to be, you understand we're adults here. talk about this. But is there a better way to go than talking about how much you believe in Jesus Christ and giving your testimony and then someone taking your life? I mean, that is, that's a martyr. And by the way, we must stop calling Charlie anything other than a civil rights leader. We need to plant that stake deep. It is time that we point out that, What he was doing was not politics.

What he was doing was trying to stand up for people's civil rights to show people how a civilization is not a civilization, unless you can have a dialogue with people who are diametrically opposed to you, that don't believe anything that you believe in. And yet you can have a civil dialogue and how important that is. That's our civil right, our right to free speech. And that gunman was trying to take that right away from him and from you and everyone else. Shut up. You will be silenced. You will not say those things. And there has been a force in this country to try to convince people that you don't have a right,

that you have a responsibility to silence others. You don't. In this country, one of our main civil rights is we can express ourselves the way we feel we need to express ourselves. and I'm sorry if you don't like it, you have to just take it and then say, I'd like to have a discussion with you on that. I'd like to know how you got there. I'd like to have the opportunity to argue against that, and you have that right to argue against it. And hopefully, if we are more like Charlie Kirk, we're having those dialogues with each other in a civilized fashion. But make no mistake, Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader as much as Martin Luther King.

I'm waiting to see the first city that will make a Charlie Kirk Boulevard. Phoenix, you should be the one. There's a Martin Luther King Boulevard. There should be a Charlie Kirk Boulevard. Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader, and we must take that for him and own that. Because all of these so-called civil rights leaders, Black Live Matter, that was a money scam.

That had nothing to do with anything. other than money and power. Charlie was actually fighting for civil rights. Okay, sorry, I feel a little passionate about that. Let's go to John in Maryland. Hello, John. John, let me go to Mary in Indiana. Hello, Mary.

Welcome. Good morning, Glenn. Don't make me cry. Don't you make me cry. I was introduced to Charlie in 2015 with my 15-year-old. and with 600 people at George Washington in D.C. And the thing that struck me the most is that every politician that came, and it was everybody at the highest level from the Capitol,

came and spoke to Turning Point kids, and they didn't talk about politics or their individual political race. They talked about values and characters and marriage. And I remember later on, years later, Jesse Waters did a talk about polish your shoes cut your hair stand up straight wear a white shirt they didn't talk about how they felt about politics and it was values from the very beginning in 2015

the most impressive run of speeches I ever saw from Turning Point was in West Palm and Charlie I believe the order was Charlie introduced Hugh you introduced Rush Limbaugh and Rush introduced Donald Trump and these kids probably three, four thousand by then, who just were spellbound by Donald Trump and who you,

you talked about history. Rush talked about, I think, how he got there and what he was doing. And Donald Trump talked about whatever he wanted to talk about for 45 or 50 minutes. Only that long. That's pretty short. They're more or longer. Yeah. Mary, thank you so much.

And thank you for remembering Charlie. And, you know, it's amazing. because the 9-12 project was about values and principles, and, you know, I'm not as smart as Charlie was. And I knew that instinctively that that's what we had to do. And Charlie just did it. And that's what Turning Point did. He was all about values and principles, not about politics,

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We can go through all of it. Maybe some of the more important stuff is they have gone through some of these inscriptions on the bullets and other. So it is true. Well, yeah. So one of the inscriptions read, hey, fascist catch. Oh, my gosh. Some of the other stuff I would say is pretty hard to decipher what it means. You know, there's a bunch of random arrows.

If you don't, if you're on the left and you don't have any and you feel like, oh, now, Charlie Kirk bought that on. Who was it that was calling him a fascist? Who was it that was broadcasting? You know, Stephen King, you know, I saw something from Dave Rubin yesterday. Stephen King actually tweeted, Charlie Kirk deserved it. He, you know, he wanted a stone gaze to death. How dare you, Stephen King?

How dare you say he never, ever would be for anything like that. How dare you say that? And, you know, Dave Rubin was the right word person to stand up for him because Dave is gay, married, and has children. And Charlie and his wife used to go to Dave's house. They were good friends. You know, these people are just monsters. They're truly monsters when they try to engage in this kind of stuff. Definitely a hardcore effort to try to paint this guy as, I mean, it's the fan.

Family seems like a nice family, everything that you can kind of find. They did turn him in. He seemed to have a work for a sheriff's office for a long time, the father. There's another one there with a direct reference to an Italian anti-fascist song as well. So that's what we have so far. They have him in custody. This is Glenn Beck. Thank you for listening today.

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powerful podcast on our thoughts and choosing our thoughts and choosing our words. And now with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, I the podcast comes out today but I wanted max to come on it'll be on with us in about 25 minutes or so to talk about how do we deal with this spiritually how do we deal with these things there are there's more information stew was just talking about the things that are on these bullets um and it looks like there wasn't a transgender that was what came out yesterday there may have been one what was the bullet on the what was the one that said bulges.

Yeah, it says notices bulges, O-W. I'm not sure what that means. And then it says, what's this question mark? So you could see that. Again, a lot of it is... Maybe. A lot of it is, you know, juvenile comedy type stuff, right? So, like, it's written in a very trolling, like, internet language and some of it.

So you could see this essentially meaning it could potentially, you know, when you're talking about bulge, that word is used. at times if you say, hey, someone sees a bulge and then what's this? You could argue that has something to do with trans stuff. But not like, there's not like a statement out of the ones they've released. There's not a blatant statement of, you know, trans ideology. There is anti-fascist ideology. And anti-capitalism.

And, yeah, the song, Chow Bella, which was a song that's an anti-fascist song from Italy, that they, you know, they still use, I believe, today to talk about the end of fascism. but it was a anti-fascist, anti-capitalist anthem from back in the day. And it was also brought up, it was in a recent, I think, Netflix show, if I'm not mistaken. It was kind of brought back up in popular culture used in that way. You know, it's, this goes to the education in, you know, and I heard, and I don't know if this is true. So please know, this is something that I heard from somebody that was in class at UVU in Utah that said, when it was found out when the teacher or somebody said that Charlie Kirk had been shot on campus,

the class cheered. And that teacher, from what I understand, did not say anything about that. All of these teachers, any of these teachers that are still preaching this anti-capitalism, anti-fascist garbage, and any teacher that was online or in class saying anything other than, if my class would have cheered, I would have been horrified. And I would have said, stop it right now. We may not like Charlie Kirk. We may not agree with his message, but he has a right to speak.

Stop that. And any teacher that didn't do that in a cheering classroom, any teacher that is cheering this stuff on or is excusing this needs to be fired. I don't care if you're a kindergarten teacher or a tenured professor. And if those universities won't fire those people that are encouraging revolution in our country, their federal funding should be cut off. I don't have a problem with free speech. I don't have a problem.

You're an anti-capitalist. You're whatever. You don't like the right. You don't like John. You have a right to have that opinion. But if you are encouraging this kind of stuff and encouraging revolution, you do not have a place in an American classroom. Period. Period. And Glenn, if I may, we, you know, we still don't know a lot, right? We still are at the

very beginning of this. And it's important to note that a lot of these things can change and our understanding of this can change. However, what we do know fits an interesting pattern that we've discussed for a very long time. What we're looking at is the initial indications of this family seems to be a very good family. It seems to be that... Hang on. Let me interrupt. Please pray for this family. Please pray for this family.

Let's remember how the Amish dealt with the shooter. Remember the milkman that came into the Amish community, lived in the community, went into the school and killed all of their children, just killed them in school. And while the families were still, they were still taking the bodies out of the classroom. one Amish man said to his wife, my gosh, that mom that lives here in our own community of the shooter, she lost a child too and we haven't thought of anything about her. And they went and comforted her while they were still pulling their children's bodies out of the classroom. They are remarkable people and we should be more like that.

We should embrace this family and help this family heal. They are suffering as well. And how much of a pariah they must feel like the whole world is condemning them. You know what it's like to be a parent today. We have to be there for this family. Yeah. The initial reporting is that, and again, it's important to note that we don't know all of this and we will know more as we go forward.

But the initial reporting is that the family seemed like a very good family. The kids seemed like kids that were good in school, were somewhat high achievers. that at least up until they left for college, everything seemed to be going pretty darn well. And then we see reports also that the parents said that he had become full of hate, that he had become much more political very recently. And that this ends, allegedly, with this shooter writing, killing Charlie Kirk because he believes he's a fact. fascist. Now, we know, and we have talked about for a very long time that, I mean, everybody in the media, everybody on the left has been telling the American people that any conservative figure, anyone who wants lower taxes, anyone who believes a man is a man and a woman is a woman and all

the things that we've talked about over the years, all of those people are fascists. And there's no other way to talk about it. This, you know, it, we don't know. that this is what happened, but it fits the fact pattern that we've been worried about for a very long time. Someone who grows up, who has head on his shoulders, who goes to a university, who is bathed in internet culture and political nonsense from the people that we talk about on a daily basis telling us lies about who's a fascist and who isn't, and eventually gets to a place where he decides to murder a young father because he believes he's a fascist. It fits a fact pattern that we've worried about for a very long time.

You know, it is, it's shocking, but in a way, so not, right? It's not stunning or shocking at all. I can predict, I can predict what's coming next. It's not hard. It is not hard unless we turn this corner. As we salute civil rights leader, Charlie Kirk, today. I want to hear from you 8 at 877BCK. Can I start with line four and Avi in Florida?

Hello, Avi. Welcome. Hi, Glenn. I'm 16 years old. I'm an American-Israeli, and I just started my Turning Point USA Chapter a couple months ago at the Student Action Summit. Charlie Kirk to me was a hero and an inspiration, and he's the reason I started to speak out about politics. I started my influencer page on Instagram because of him. It feels like we lost like a best friend, and there's just a void there that I think all the youth and the teenagers feel right now, and it's just heartbreaking. And I want to thank you for continuing this for freedom.

Javi, I'm so sorry that at your age that you are going through this. I mean, I'm having a hard time dealing with it at my age. But I can't imagine what it is like because I know Charlie. I mean, everybody felt like they knew Charlie Kirk. Whether you met him or not, he was just that kind of guy and a really nice caring guy that would stop and take and spend the world of time with you if you needed it. And I'm so sorry, but learn that this is, learn. that what Charlie stood for and died for were the principles that our founders outlined,

the God-given rights. But also, he died in the same way he tried to live his life, worshiping God and trying to be civil and having civil dialogue with people. And it's going to be up to your generation, not mine, your generation is going to make all the difference in the world and you will choose and don't let this plant hatred and in fact let this do the exact opposite let this let this water the love of of god and the and the the duty to god let that water in you and and have it just take deep deep root in you thank you avie let me uh take matt hello matt oh wow what a bright young lady that last caller us. I am a 32 year old same age as Charlie and I have two little kids like him and I've

been having a hard time just with everything. I mean I just I've been listening to him since I was 18 a long time. It's just hard. I'm just the one thing I'm afraid of he was like the like the dam, you know, between people be able to talk to other, like, good and evil. And I'm just afraid that some bad actors are going to try to fill that void, you know, a big void that's lost. Is it, or, or, or Matt, is it, is it going to be filled with you and Avi and millions of others? I mean, he sealed his testimony in what he believed about God and the country and our civil rights. He sealed that with his own blood. And, you know, you kill a tyrant and his reign ends.

You kill a martyr and his reign begins. And Charlie is bigger and more powerful today and the years to come. Should we choose? His message will grow into something way beyond anything he could have accomplished in life because it forces all of us to stop and say, what is it that I really believe? And if you believe what Charlie believed, you have a responsibility just as he. And Charlie and I, I said this yesterday to some degree, Charlie and I spent some time on a balcony one day in Miami. And he asked me, we were alone, just the two of us, and we were having a very tough conversation on things. And he asked me, what do you think is coming?

And I said, Charlie, you know, you know what's coming. You're a student of history. The only thing left are assassinations. And he said, God forbid. And I said, I know God forbid. But, you know who the targets will be. It will be the people like Donald Trump. But it could also be people like you or me.

and we have to have a pact with one another that whatever happens in the future, that each of us stand and say, that cannot happen, that cannot be, and preach for peace and love and forgiveness. I know what Charlie, we talked about it, I know what Charlie would want his people to do. I know what I want my people to do. And that's, that's you. That's you. You will make the difference between good and evil.

You are now the new dam holding the water back of evil. And you can do it. You can do it. Thanks, Glenn. I really appreciate that. You're welcome. I think there's a lot of strong voices still out there. I mean, you're one of them.

I listen to Matt Walsh. I think he's a very good guy. same as Michael Knowles I'm just afraid of these other voices like for instance Nick Wentez I think he is not a very good actor I just don't

I know if you will you've got a lot of power with a lot of young men's voices you know I mean well you know what I'm not going to comment on him but I will just tell you this

darkness doesn't win evil doesn't win It never does. It never, ever does. But we have, this is what Martin Luther King believed. You take evil and you show evil and you put it right next to a picture of good and people will always choose good. In the end, they all will choose good. Nobody wants to be evil. Nobody wants to do that. And evil has taken a real foothold in us because we have been apathetic. We have been we've been convinced that we don't have any power that we don't forget about all of that i want you to think small i want you to dream big dream huge freedom uh that america can come back and we can change the world dream all of those great dreams that we actually live up to our declaration of independence and our mission statement there dream that big but i want you to think small stop thinking about the charlie kirk's and the big movement start thinking about you

and your life and what you're going to do. Because I promise you this changes when you choose your thinking, you choose your thoughts to be creative and peacemaking and loving and true. That's when everything changes. And it will happen overnight should we as individuals choose it. Back in just a second, let me tell you about my Patriot supply. Preparedness doesn't start when the storm. hits. It starts long before that. And September is National Preparedness Month. It's a perfect

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to get his perspective and his thoughts on what's happened this week. But I want to make sure that we frame things the right way here today. I've gone through every possible emotion this week, but I am starting to get clarity. And, you know, words have real meaning as we know. Words matter. And we have to choose our words really carefully because words can either cloud the truth

or bring clarity to a difference. generation and the words you choose, the thoughts you choose are game-changing because that is the creative process. It starts with a thought and speech and then it becomes a reality. And the one area that really needs clarity in today's world, two words, civil rights. That phrase back in the 1960s really meant something. It meant something deeply important. And Martin Luther King, sealed his blood and his testimony on civil rights in America, and it changed us. But over the years, that phrase has been captured and twisted, and it doesn't have any true meaning anymore.

BLM was a civil rights, no, it wasn't, it was BLM Inc. We now know all that money went, for what? For what? It wasn't true. It's a money-making and a money-churning machine that takes the pain of injustice and turns it into profit. But that is not America, and that's not true. And it's darkness. And it's not where the fight for true civil rights is today.

The civil rights struggle of this generation is not about the size of government handouts or reparations. It's about whether the individual, a free manner, woman, created in the image of God, can still live their own life, choose their own path, choose what medicines they put into their body, how they live, how they work, can still speak without fear, can still challenge power without reprisal, can still engage in dialogue without being shot. That is the true civil rights discussion and struggle that we face. And just as Martin Luther King did, Charlie Kirk sealed his testimony.

this week. He knew that free speech is not just an amendment. It is the lifeblood of a free people. And he carried that burden over and over again into the public square. And he faced ridicule, hatred, and eventually the ultimate price. And I believe it must be proclaimed in doing so. He joined the ranks of those who prove that courage is the only passport to freedom. he joined the ranks of the great civil rights leaders this week. Civil rights demands responsibility, the responsibility to speak with honesty, with a even temper,

to speak truth with love and respect, and that's what he did. It carries with it a responsibility to hear other people, a responsibility to steward liberty, so it doesn't collapse into a license, of chaos. This is why Charlie Kirk meant so much to so many people. It doesn't fit neatly into the narratives of the 1960s. It reclaimed the essence, however, of what civil rights have always meant. Personal freedom bound by personal responsibility. And if we allow his work to be misread,

diminished, or mislabeled, we lose the thing that he gave his very life to defend. but we have to, we must call him for what he was, the civil rights leader of our age. Then his example becomes a torch we can pass on for one to another. So the question here is not whether Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader. The question is whether we will take up the civil rights struggle that he defined the right to speak freely, to think independently, to live responsibly, as freemen and women under an almighty God. This week, we salute civil rights leader Charlie Kirk.

We go to America's pastor, Max Lucado. Next, first, let me tell you about the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. It's 9-12, you can believe it. What a week. When the first responder or military service member gives their life in the line of duty, their sacrifice doesn't end there. It leaves behind the families and the spouses and the children and the loved ones who now face a future without their own hero,

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Hello, Max. How are you? Glenn, I'm like you. I'm just sad. I feel a heaviness in my heart. We knew the week was going to be somber because of 9-11. But we went to just a different shadow, a different level of sadness at this assassination of a good man. I'm sorry for you. I know that you have a personal connection. and I know that you treasure the wonderful state of Utah, and what a heartbreak for this to happen in that wonderful state. So there's just a variety of emotions that I'm feeling.

I stand shoulder to shoulder with you, though, in acknowledging that this is a very, very dark day. Max, we're airing the podcast. It's out for Blaze TV subscribers today. tomorrow it'll go everywhere. And I think, honestly, I've been thinking about it every day since we recorded it. And I think it's one of the more important broadcasts that I've ever done.

Your words are so, so important and so clarifying, especially now. But we recorded it before Charlie was killed. And I wanted to give you the opportunity to add an addendum to what we talk about. Can you give us any thoughts on how to process all of this and and what the job is for those of us going forward and and how we can guard ourselves from going dark. Yes, yes. Thank you so much for that that opportunity. I'll do my best to just offer a few, you know, abbreviated ideas. Let's acknowledge, first of all,

this for what it is. It's tragic. It's just tragic. It's the death of a good man. But it, it, And that's enough. But if there's even more, it's the fear that this fragile treasure that we call free speech is going to be taken away. We treasure this idea of free speech. And we must monitor. It must be good curators of it. And so what we're experiencing this week is a sadness and a fear, a sadness that something we treasure is. lost, a fear that will never recover.

In the topic, the podcasts you and I have, which was a wonderful conversation, we talked about how an untruth tends to lead to a false narrative that leads to an overreaction. I tease. Say that again. But an untruth, untruth leads to a false narrative that always leads to an overreaction. An untruth in this case, in this case, be, you know, the world is going over the edge. Our country is lost.

That's an untrue. That's not true. That's not true. We can rise above this. We can be better than this. We can call each other to be better citizens than this. But there is an untruth that's going to surface that's going to cause somebody to say it's, it's too late. We've gone too far.

That'll lead to a false narrative. They may try to treat this pain inappropriately with violence themselves or violence against themselves, and that leads to an overreaction. An overreaction is going to be an angry outburst. It's going to be increased violence. It's going to be isolation. So we've got to stand against that and speak truth. Here's the truth, Glenn. The truth is we have a beautiful country. We are treasure. We are privileged to live in the greatest country in the history of the world. That's the truth. And the right narrative is we can rise up above this. I would call upon those in my generation. I'm 70. Speak to your children. Speak to your grandchildren. Tell them that we got

through this in the 60s and the 70s. It's tragic. It's horrible, but we're going to be better because of that. And let that lead to a good reaction, a reaction in which I personally make a decision. I'm going to be more respectful of those with whom I disagree. I'm going to put the golden rule to practice as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. I'm going to be a better neighbor. So we can be better because of this. And that's my prayer. I think that's the decision.

I don't know how this is going to impact the entire nation, but I do know it can impact me. And I'm resolved, and I hope all of our listeners today are resolved to be a better person because of it. You know, Max, I've talked about God on the air when it was really uncomfortable. In fact, one of the reasons I left Fox was I was told by Roger Ailes stopped talking about God. And I was in his office and I said, okay, okay. And he called me back a month after that. And he said, do you know how many times you've said, do you remember this conversation we had? And I said, yes.

And he said, do you know how many times? And I said, no. And I think it, you counted. And I think it was like 92 times. You mentioned you said the word God 92 times in the last month. And I'm like, yeah, well, I'm sorry, but that's what I believe. And now when I was doing it back then, I knew how dangerous it was in a way because people were not willing to share the gospel. They weren't willing to talk about God in public.

Charlie, one of the things that he did was he has made this, he and others, have made God an open conversation. God is back in a big way for millions of Americans. And I really think I've seen I've seen so many posts on X and Facebook this week. I read one yesterday on the air that just said, I don't know what this is, but I just feel like going to church and giving my life to Jesus. I think this could be the beginning, just as though the way I feel the assassinations in the 60s helped, lead to that Jesus revival in the 1970s. I think there's a revival coming. Amen. And we're seeing

that, you know, we're seeing young Gen Z lead the way in church attendance. It's up by 27% of young people are saying they want to attend church and that is being led by males. Typically, you know, we're always being critical of the guys because they don't go to church. In this case, it's the guys who are leading the way. And so that's super encouraging. Charlie Kirk embraced a Christian worldview. That is to say that we were created to live in a perfect relationship with God, with each other, with nature. We're living in a fallen world right now because of sin. Interestingly, the first fruit of that fall of Adam and Eve was an act of violence. The one brother killed the other. When we're distant from God, we get distant from each other.

When we're at peace with God, we can be at peace with each other. But Charlie acknowledged that we're in a season in the long, eternal history of our relationship with God in which many people reject him. And the consequence of that is anger and sin and rebel. and distortion and hurt. But the day is coming in which the goodness of God will be made plentiful on the earth, and we will reign and rule with him in peace. That's the Christian worldview. And Charlie embraced this.

It's essential. I think secularism sucks the soul out of a person. It turns them into an empty, self-centered person. I believe the Christian faith rightly accepted. causes us to set our focus on our maker. And that's how we were intended to live. So, Max, I'm going to take a one minute break. And if you could, I wanted to prepare you for this. Because I want to ask you to do something that I think some people would find controversial, but I don't. You know, they caught the shooter today. And from all indications, this was a good kid and got screwed up in college.

And a good family as well. I don't know all of the details. But I think, think of the Amish when they had their children shot at school and they immediately went to embrace the mother of this shooter because they felt, you know, you lost somebody too. We lost our children. You lost your children. And it was an amazing moment. I feel the pain of this family that they're living in a community that they have got to feel completely alone and that everyone is looking at the family. them saying, you monsters. And it's not the family. It's the choices that this kid made himself and the family. We need to embrace the family. Would you, let me take a break. And when we come back, would you just lead the nation in a prayer of healing and forgiveness and love for one another? Could you do that? Yes, sir. Absolutely. Absolutely. In one minute. We'll come back with. Max Lakato. Let me talk to you a little bit about SimplySafe.

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the choices we make for our country and how we deal with all of this. Max is here. Max, go ahead. Heavenly Father, we come to you now. In the name of all that is good and sacred, we remember Jesus who hung on the cross, experiencing himself such a horrific act of violence. And yet even in that moment, you said, Father, forgive them. They do not know what they do.

Father, would you please let mercy fall upon us and let the healing of the nation begin with the person we see in the mirror? Grant, O Heavenly Father, by the power of your spirit, a resolve to be kind, especially to those with whom we disagree. To practice the golden rule. And before we speak a word, before we respond to a text, and before we enter a message on social media, that we would say what you've told us to say, how can I treat this person the way I want to be treated? Father, we feel like we're at an inflection point in society. We feel like we're standing at a crossroads,

and we want to go in the direction of peace and harmony and free speech. We beg you, Heavenly Father, to continue your blessings upon this wonderful country. Let us be a greenhouse of faith, a place where it's safe to grow. And as we have already discussed, we beg mercy upon the family of this assassin. Oh, my goodness, what desolation, what heartbreak, what sorrow they must feel. Would you please have mercy upon them? And Heavenly Father, mercy upon Him. He is created by you and your image, and we pray that that image currently so tarnished and buried would come to surface

in some act of repentance and salvation. I thank you for my friend Glenn and his faith. I know this is personal for him in so many ways. And I thank you, Father, for the good people of the state of Utah. And we beg your mercy to be upon the governor and those who are making decisions. And we do ask you, Father, to take what was intended for evil and turn it into something good as only you can do. and we offer this prayer through our Savior.

Amen. Amen. Max, I am so honored to be counted among your friends, and I hope so many people listen to the podcast that we did together a few short days ago before Charlie was killed, because I think it is your message in this podcast is one of the best I've ever heard, and so important for today. I love you, my friend. Thank you.

Love you, too. Thank you for the invitation. You bet. Max Licato. He's the author of a book called Tame Your Thoughts, and this podcast is about controlling your thoughts, and it is something that every single American should listen to. This weekend is available now for Blaze TV subscribers.

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we have to change ourselves first. And we have to be great examples. You know, I am, I've been struck all week because I've been listening to my friends and their podcasts, and I've talked to my friends on their podcasts and off the air. And I've had so many conversations this week with the people that you listen to all the time. And we're all in the same place. And we're all saddened, deeply saddened. Some are very worried. And we all have done shows and said things on and off the air that I don't know if the left would do.

I've been listening to people on the air and I've taken calls today. and nobody is screaming for blood. And I am so proud of us. It gives me such profound hope because the tone would be extraordinarily different if it was happening the other way around. And you know it. But let me take you to an uncomfortable place.

Let me tell you a story that we just don't even think of. we have the shooter in custody now and by all accounts he was a good kid and went to college and then just was all screwed up and I want you to think about that family for a minute we've been thinking about Charlie's family

we've been thinking about his children as is right and we must and we have a duty to take care of them but I want you to think about the family of the one that pulled the trigger. I want you to pause for a second and imagine for a minute. A mom, just like you were a mom. You know, holding her baby boy and whispering prayers over the crib just like you did. A dad who worked long days believing if you just keep food on the table and discipline in the home

and you try to do the right thing, your son is going to grow up as strong and he's going to do good. brothers, sisters, cousins, all of them now watching in horror as the name that they all share is now cursed. As their mailbox fills not with condolence but with hatred, imagine being that family in a few days going to the grocery store. How afraid you would be. Just not even somebody would do something,

but just going through the gauntlet of stairs, the people that are questioning you and you imagine how alone you would feel at that moment? You would just want to crawl into a hole. You would be questioning and tearing yourself apart, what did I do wrong as a parent that my kid did this? What did I do wrong? You'd already have that, and then you'd have no one,

no one outside of the family. that would be with you, the neighbors across the street that you've known forever and have known you, friends that fall silent, you're no longer a friend, maybe the church pew that you go to, it's the one next to you sits empty now, nobody's sitting next to you. What would it mean? What would it do for them to see just one neighbor? Maybe somebody they barely even know. Maybe somebody they don't even know.

They're in the grocery store. and they're expecting all of these glares and they pass somebody that offers them not a glare but just a glance of kindness, not approval, not excuse, but just a small recognition that the tragedy has claimed their family as well. I don't know if I could have done this if I hadn't have raised my children and made so many mistakes that I have made. you know I I'm learning some ugly truths about myself in this last year and things that I have a lot of work to do and you know when I got into radio when I was 13 years old and this this is my best friend this this has never rejected me this is I can tell it anything and my kids have noticed that I

I spend so much time with you when I go out in public I I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I I love talking to you. And I've realized recently, to my shame, that my relationship with you may be the only relationship I'm good at. I don't know how to do other relationships. And I tried to be a good dad. And I've tried to do just like you have. We all have. We all have.

But raising a kid is the hardest calling on earth. If you are a parent, you know it, especially today. don't have any idea what you're doing. You have no idea. Everything has changed. Nothing with our kids is like it was. I can't even relate to it. I feel horrible for the kids of today because I don't know how to help them. And we can pour ourselves out. We can be there. I really have tried to be there for my kids every step of the way. We've tried to teach them the scriptures. We've tried to pray without ceasing. You can sacrifice as a parent until there's nothing left to sacrifice. And still, you can lose them because the world is waiting. Bad friends, social media, dark influences,

the illness of the body or the mind or frankly the poisonous philosophies at the schools and universities that now train our young men and women, not in the light of God and good and yearn to be better, but in grievance and shadow. And any one of those influences can reach out and grab and snatch one of our children that we have loved beyond measure. We can do everything right and they can still be snatched. And then we're left saying, Lord, what did I miss? What did I fail to do?

What could I have done different? I urge all of us to see this family of the shooter. We're not seeing monsters. We are not. We are seeing what any one of us could have become. Should fate or frailty just twist the lives of those we love. What sets us apart is the commandment from Christ to love our enemies. You know, character doesn't count when you're not under pressure.

it doesn't count you can be the nicest person in the world but when you're under extreme pressure that true character comes out on who you really are we are under extreme pressure so who are we really are we like

those we stand against are we like or do we love our enemies do we actually put that into practice do we pray for those who persecute and hate us. You know, when Jesus said all this stuff, he wasn't naive. He more than anybody else knew the pain of betrayal

and the sting of an unjust death. And yet, while they drove nails into his hands and wrists, into his feet, while they pushed a crown of thorns deep into his head, he offered mercy. to the thief on the cross, forgiveness to those who are driving nails. The last couple of days, we've done everything we can to honor Charlie's life. And in the coming days, we need to honor Charlie's life again by picking up the torch

and picking it up where he left off to defend freedom and civil rights. But more than anything else, the reason why Charlie Kirk was a true civil rights leader is because he was a Christian first. He was a God-fearing man first. He could love his enemies. He could speak to his enemies with a civility that is beyond most of us. If we want to honor his memory truly, then that's the torch we should pick up. To be a better disciple of Christ, to be so much better as individuals than the world would expect us to be. Because that's what will change everything. When we are so much better than what the world would expect us to be that it's almost breathtaking. The Amish, the Amish, when they forgave the mother and comforted the mother before they even had

all of the bodies out of the school where the shooter had killed their children, they worried about the mother of that shooter and went to comfort her. And they went to her home and surrounded her. She was terrified when she saw out her window that there are all these Amish people. And she knew her son had just killed all their children. You should hear her testimony. She was terrified to open the door. She opened the door. And they started to weep. And they said, sister, you're not alone. We lost a child and you lost a child. And they made her promise. You will never move from our community. You are now one of us. You are not an outsider.

You're one of us. We grieve together. That's breathtaking. That's hard. Showing rage is so much easier. Being mad is so much easier. But saying kind thoughts, doing, showing compassion is so hard to lift our gaze above the abyss of vengeance. And instead, see this one broken.

family who like us only wanted to raise a child to the light. This is what I mean by what I've been saying lately. Think small, dream big. I want to heal the world. I don't know how to do that. But if I think small, I realize the greatest act of civil courage is not shouted in the streets. It's whispered in each of our hearts.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I'm going to be with the Turning Point USA family. Next week, they have asked me to sit in Charlie's chair for a couple of days. and and host his podcast and radio broadcast I'll be doing that next Wednesday and Thursday from his studio

as well as doing this program as well but you know it's 912 today 912 turned into something very important because to me it was the day that we we discovered who we really were that we came together after 9-11 we were afraid but then the next day

we were good to each other and we stopped and we hugged strangers and we were good for that day. We were really good. And then we got lost in politics and everything else and we made some mistakes along the way. But that was an amazing moment. And so in 2008, I tried to start something called the 9-12 project. You might remember it. It had members all over the country and it was part of the Tea Party. But it was, my goal was to make sure that the Tea Party remembered that it was principles and values, not just policies, but principles and values. And it was important to teach the youth, the history of our country and what our country really meant and to teach them to

become leaders that are rooted in those values and principles. And Charlie Kirk was a listener of mine. I met him when he was 17 years old. He sent me a, he tweeted, Glenn Beck, I'm a 17-year-old student. I listen to you every day and I speak now at Tea Parties about debt and deficit and fight liberal bias. He was a young kid who was amazing. He came from this audience and

I wanted his family to know how grateful we are as an audience, as a group of people for him taking and that's what he created. The 9-12 project, what I wanted was what he created at Turning Point USA

and I am so grateful and I want his people at Turning Point to know. So we're doing a fundraiser. We just started it. It will go to Erica and his children. And if she deems that they can use some of the money for Turning Point, she can do that. I have a huge goal of $10 million to help them.

So far, just in the last couple of hours, we're up to $250,000. Please go to Give SendGo. Even a dollar makes a difference. GiveSendGo.com slash 912 project.