The Glenn Beck Program - Checkmate? The Hidden Genius of Trump's ICE Pullback | Guest: DataRepublican | 1/27/26
Episode Date: January 27, 2026Glenn looks at the latest in Minnesota and breaks down who’s behind all the riots and chaos happening within that state. Glenn analyzes President Donald Trump’s "Art of the Deal" and how he utiliz...ed his dealmaking method when discussing immigration with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz (D). Glenn breaks down how the current unrest in Minnesota is an insurrection that calls for the ultimate authority to act. Glenn and Stu discuss Stu’s last week on Glenn’s show and hint at what Stu is doing next. Glenn and Jason discuss the shooting of Alex Pretti and explain how the Left’s rhetoric regarding ICE actions is to blame for the recent tragedy. Data expert DataRepublican joins Glenn to discuss the far-left Minneapolis Signal chat used to track down ICE agents, which also allegedly includes potential foreign involvement. Glenn and Stu share what each will miss the most when Stu is no longer on "The Glenn Beck Program." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Azra Nomani has exposed a
network yesterday
of far-left organizations, and it is
comprehensive. The free beacon
also came out yesterday
and exposed the sunrower
movement that is funded by the usual suspect Soros Tides Ford.
O'Keefe said yesterday, he was in Minneapolis and he said there is a territory that is
absolutely absence of police.
They knew his license plate.
They said, you're driving this.
And if you're not out of the city within one hour, you're dead.
He said, somebody frisked him and the Marine that he was with as if they were the police.
I mean, Minneapolis is out of control.
It is important for people to understand what is going on because this is not a protest.
This is an insurgency.
On today's podcast and at glenbeck.com, I want to take that torch and light our way here and expose another one of the organizing engines behind this unrest.
And once you see it clearly, you'll understand this is not about immigration, compassion, or civil rights.
this is an insurgency, not a protest. It's about power. It's about ideology. It is about a movement that doesn't believe that America even has a right to exist. We have been working alongside with the nonprofit Morrow Institute, which this is what they do for a living. And they have uncovered the operational and ideological footprint of a group quietly embedded in the anti-ice organizing network in Minnesota. I just have to tell you that I am, I
I am so happy to see what people have done with their spare time.
When I started exposing these things back in the early 2000s,
nobody was on it.
Very few people.
I shouldn't say nobody.
Very few people were on it.
And it was very hard to track these things down.
Now with the internet and chat GPT and everything else,
you can move pretty quickly.
You still are required to have some investment.
of footing and knowledge.
But it is a lot easier than it was.
And like I just said, you have O'Keefe, you have the free beacon, you have Osro Nomani,
you have us at glenbeck.com.
And you're seeing these networks in real time.
So the one that the Morrow Institute tipped us off on today, and you'll find this article at
glenbeck.com in Minnesota is the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Committee.
It's known as Mirac, Minnesota, Immigrant Rights Action Committee, I think it is.
And you're not going to hear that name on cable news and you're not going to see it in press releases from City Hall,
but you will find it inside the signal chats that were used to organize resistance to federal law enforcement and not casually.
Mirac is listed as a recommended training resource.
And that's all in the documents that are circulating among all the activists, documents in
instructing participants to, and I quote, train up community members in rapid response and
intervention, end quote. And here's their speciality.
Immigrant response training, I'm sorry, immigration raid response trainings.
Now that sounds benign, I guess, until you read what Mirac actually believes, okay?
And this was important during BLM.
People were used by BLM and it didn't catch on for a while until it just started, people started going to jail.
But, you know, we told you at the very beginning of BLM, you have to know what they stand for.
They are for the destruction of America and the destruction of the nuclear family.
And when you go back and you look at their founding documents and their own words and what they are currently for,
it should open your mind and open your eyes and say, wait a minute, I don't want to partner with these guys.
Okay.
What they expose about themselves in their posts, you know, in their own words, in their alliances, is this.
And this is really important.
This leads to something from next hour that I really am anxious to talk to you about and get your opinion on.
But they're not about seeking reform.
they're not about reconciliation.
They're not about fixing the problem.
They are seeking abolition.
And abolition of borders, any deportation, no enforcement in the United States,
and the abolition of the United States as it is presently constituted.
So no America.
They openly call the American immigration system and the criminal justice system,
fundamentally unjust, racist, and white supremacist.
They declare solidarity with popular movements abroad.
They explicitly expose U.S. action anywhere in the world.
So this is not civil disobedience.
This has nothing to do with what's happening in Minneapolis.
None of it.
This is a revolutionary ideology.
And behind all the soft language is something far harder.
The Morrow Institute, the researchers there, identify Mirac, is part of what they call, and we've talked about this here recently a lot, the Turtle Island infatada.
Turtle Island is what the ancient natives used to call America.
Okay, this whole continent was Turtle Island.
And so if you're part of Turtle Island, they're trying to make this, they're trying to take,
the entire continent of North America and make it into Palestine, an occupied territory.
And this Turtle Movement, the Turtle Island movement, denies the idea of America's right to exist
in any way, the same way the radical groups deny Israel's right to exist.
And one Mirac Post made it really, really explicit.
They said, from Turtle Island to Palestine,
is a crime.
Turtle Island, again, what they call North America,
they believe it has to be liberated.
And if that language sounds familiar,
it should because we know exactly how liberation movements
operate when they adopt the language of resistance,
intifada, and occupation.
October 7th should have ended any ambiguity at all.
I mean, it didn't, but it should have.
But it certainly didn't,
with Mirak. Their response to the October 7th massacre was not grief. There was no condemnation,
not even an acknowledgement of Israeli civilians murdered in their homes. Instead, Mirak declared
solidarity with Palestine and endorsed the so-called right of return and repeated the chant
on October 7th, from the river to the sea. Then they went further. In April 2024,
Mirak co-published a statement praising Iran's missile attack on Israel, calling it justified
under international law and lauding Iran's support for the Palestinian existence. So you have
this so far? The people in Minnesota, they say America has no right to exist, Israel has no
right to exist, and one of their partners in this utopian society are, you know, anybody
who is trying to destroy America, and that includes Iran that I remind you,
yesterday, the last two days, now it's up to 35,000 people they have executed.
Okay.
So this organization that is part of the problem, part of the crime, I believe, the
insurrection in Minnesota that is whipping people into a frenzy, they are for the Iranian
government.
Now, they're partners in the statement, including groups previously identified by researchers
as pro-terrorism, including organizations with documented links to foreign influence
and revolutionary communist movements.
And it's not a coincidence.
This is a coalition.
Later, Mirak announced a march for Iran.
They condemn the United States for bombing innocent Iranians and Venezuelans.
They have promoted pro-Cuba activism.
They have joined coalitions whose own website supported.
October 7th attack, frame Russia and China as victims of America?
Okay, I mean, it, and this is all before we get to any violence.
Because Mirak doesn't just merely tolerate violent rhetoric, it amplifies it.
There is a flyer published by Mirac that features the phrase bash the fash,
alongside with an image of a bloodied, severed head, and a slogan, long as so
associated with, you know,
Antifa-style street violence.
So their close allies
publicly pledged to defend activists
politically and physically, if necessary.
They openly endorse the unified Palestinian resistance.
They called October 7th morally justified.
And they draw a line really clearly.
Violence against ICE isn't violence, it's resistance.
When a protester is shot,
Mirak rejects any attempt to condemn the unrest.
This is what they've just recently wrote.
There is violence and there is resistance to violence.
They must never be equated.
Days earlier, they issued a message to the Minnesota leadership.
ICE is waging war on our city.
Fight back.
If you won't, keep MPD out of our way.
So in other words, they're telling people, if you're not going to get violent,
we will.
you just keep the Minnesota Police,
Minneapolis Police Department out of our way.
Another post
celebrated the activists that were
quote, organized, militant, and ready to fight back.
They brag about forming human chains
to stop federal vehicles.
They boast about mobilizing hundreds
within an hour.
They promise more training for the next confrontation.
And they provide resources
that support all arrestees,
regardless of the charge,
rejecting any kind of distinction between peaceful protest and criminal destruction.
And the most, I think, chilling is this comparison.
This was published on the Mirak-linked social media.
ICE is equated with the Israeli military.
Now, this is why it's chilling.
If you understand what Mirak partners want done to the Israeli military,
you understand the implication.
This is not a protest.
This is pre-justification.
This is rhetorical framework that transforms law enforcement into enemy occupiers and then calls killing them resistance.
So here's the truth that the media is not going to say.
And quite honestly, some people, you know, on our side are not going to say.
But it is really important.
Please, please listen to our number two of today's show, please.
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and I mean anybody else will take you.
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America can debate immigration policy.
We can debate that all the way on.
We've been debating it since almost the beginning of our country.
We can argue about enforcement priorities.
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We can condemn the police or understand the police.
We can condemn protesters.
and we can understand protesters.
But this is an organized ideological assault
and one that rejects the legitimacy of the United States itself,
aligns itself with foreign adversaries,
excuses terrorism,
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If you're standing in Minnesota right now and you're angry about the immigration policy,
I can understand that.
You're worried about overreach.
I can understand that.
You believe enforcement should be humane, limited, and constitutional.
I'm behind that.
You, if that's what you believe, are not the problem.
But you are standing next to people
who are playing a very different game for a different outcome,
and you deserve to know that.
Most protesters don't wake up believing in Turtle Island.
Most protesters in America don't want a borderless world.
Most do not believe America is illegitimate occupation that has to be liberated.
But the people who are organizing you do believe those things.
And they're not handing out pamphlets to say we want to overthrow the United States.
lead with, we deny America's right to exist, they don't, they don't lead with that stuff.
They lead with, they lead with raid response, community defense, rapid intervention.
That's the on-ramp. And once you're on that on-ramp, the language slowly changes and you're
slowly boiled. Ice isn't law enforcement anymore, it's an occupying force. Enforcement isn't policy,
it's state violence. Stopping vehicles. Stopping vehicles.
is not obstruction, it's resistance.
Violence is in violence, it's liberation.
That's not accidental.
That is ideological conditioning.
Once you step onto that on-ramp where you don't know what their intent is, you're cooked.
And here's the critical question that everybody needs to ask themselves right now.
How many people in that crowd actually believe what Mirak believes?
I don't know.
And that is the danger.
because Mirak does not require everybody to agree.
All it requires is cover.
Every single peaceful protester becomes camouflage for them.
Every well-meaning neighbor becomes legitimacy.
Every chant about compassion shields an ideology that openly praises Iran,
excuses October 7th, and aligns itself with groups that justify terrorism as self-defense.
And when an organization says North America is occupied territory, when it calls liberation from Minnesota to Palestine, when it celebrates a diversity of tactics, it leads not to anything other than our destruction.
That's not activism.
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But as we break, Jason, our chief researcher, he goes in and he talks to the insiders.
It's a really cool community as well. And kind of sweeps things up.
I was just listening to him and he was talking about what Trump did yesterday with Minnesota
and how he felt a little angry yesterday.
And quite honestly, I agree because what I see here happening in Minnesota is an insurrection.
Clearly, it's an insurrection.
I mean, and we've got the paperwork.
We have the goods on it.
And I want those people arrested.
I want them tried.
And if they're found guilty, I want them in jail.
but I think Trump does too. He's not stupid. He's not stupid. When I first saw this story yesterday,
what he was doing? I thought, is he waving the white flag? What is he doing? What is he doing? Is this all
about the election and getting reelected and he's got to make nicey nice? And I don't think it is.
It is if you are reacting emotionally, and I want to say this, I could be wrong on this, so I don't
mean to belittle you or have you think that I'm smarter than you because I can guarantee you. I'm
not in almost all, but Al Gore's case. I'm not smarter than you. I just look at things
differently and I could be wrong, but I'll give you a lens to see this through and then a chart
on how we're going to know whether it is a red, it is a white flag or not. Okay. And I don't think it is a
white flag. If you're looking at this through the lens of traditional political or cable news,
you're going to look at this and say this is a retreat.
However, if you look at it as a counterinsurgency,
if you look at it through that lens of counterinsurgency,
federalism, and an optics war lens,
then it's different.
Okay?
Let me walk you through this.
Because what we're seeing Trump shift the battlefield,
not abandon it.
And let me take you through this cleanly and tactically here.
First, what would a surrender or a blink actually look like?
If Trump was blinking, this is what would happen.
He would end the enforcement nationwide.
He would call off ICE operations.
He would publicly repudiate Homan or Miller.
He would emit wrongdoing or illegality.
And he would accept the Gestapo snatching people off the streets narrative.
of that happened. Instead, and now think of him in Art of the Deal, he narrowed the enforcement
criteria. Political pressure is rerouted. Optics cooled, legal authority, preserved,
responsibility transferred back to the states. This is not a surrender. I believe this is a
reframing of the fight, and it's really smart. If this is what it is, it's really smart. If this is what it is, it's
really smart. The real, the strategic objective here that I think most people are going to miss is,
you know, when I, when I just said, you know, he would, he narrowed the enforcement criteria.
Let me ask you, what was his criteria? Because I had a problem with it when he said it months ago.
What was the enforcement criteria? Was it to go scoop up every,
illegal on the streets?
Was it?
Was it to send everybody who came here to send them home?
Is that what ICE was doing?
Because it wasn't.
Because I remember when he said it, I'm like, what?
We should be sending everybody that was here home.
And he said, no, no, no.
The goal here is to get the really bad criminals off the streets.
That's what he wanted.
So the goal was never ICE agents,
everywhere all the time.
The goal was this.
Force Blue State leadership to choose
publicly and unmistakably
between protecting violent criminals
or cooperating with federal law enforcement.
That's what he's been saying the whole thing.
How are you people defending this?
These are rapists in your community.
So what Trump has just done is he has separated
into three groups.
One, the violent criminal,
illegals, easily moral. Everybody's for that. Okay. Two, the local state officials who shield them.
There's another group. And three, the protest movements trying to provoke a legitimacy crisis.
So he's now broken those three up. Minnesota was sliding towards a designed confrontation.
Street chaos, viral clips, allegations of federal overreach, the Senate damage,
were threatening a shutdown, the media was building an authoritarian.
We were headed towards everything that there's no way out, okay?
And that environment only benefits one side, and it isn't the Trump side.
It's not our side.
The only thing he could have done was escalate.
And do you think that's what they didn't want?
That's exactly what they wanted.
So he changed the terrain.
He also, and this is telling to me,
he also went and relieved the U.S. Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino.
So this was part of it that really bothered me, okay,
because it's the hardest part emotionally.
Here's a guy who was very, very clear on things,
but it is the clearest tactically.
Bovino was a guy who was saying,
I mean, he even said something.
It was absolutely wrong this weekend.
You don't have a right to carry a gun at a,
at a protest. No, you don't have a right to interfere with police. Once you engage with police and you're
carrying a gun, then that's a different story. But he said a lot of things. He was defending some things
that I thought were a little indefensible. But he was a lightning rod. He was a walking headline.
He was a pretext for the Senate Democrats. I mean, he was a symbol. Whether it was fair or not,
doesn't matter. Perception is reality. He was rogue federal officer.
officer escalating online while operating in a blue city. That's poison if you're in an optics war.
And every war must worry about optics. If you're going to win, you have to worry about optics.
So what does what does Trump do? He rotates that guy out. Well, now the Senate shutdown talks.
That weakens that. How are you going to shut down? He's giving, right? The media narratives
loses the villain.
The Department of Homeland Security
regains message discipline
and the fight moves from personality
back to policy. This is classic
Trump. What does Trump
say in Art of the Deal?
We've seen him do it over and over
and over again. Never
die on someone else's hill.
If it isn't the
hill you chose, don't
die on a hill they're choosing.
Only die on the hill you choose.
So when,
he talks to Walls and Fry, I don't think this is capitulation.
I think these were traps.
Let me read the three-point plan again carefully, okay.
What he didn't ask for.
He didn't ask for sanctuary repeal.
He didn't ask for universal cooperation.
And he didn't ask for mass raids.
He asked for one narrow, morally defensible
thing, okay, turn over the illegal immigrants already in prison and in jail for rape and murder
and everything else. That's it, which is what he said he wanted in the first place, okay? I think
this whole push, again, has been over to the window. He wanted the ones who were on the streets
raping. That's who they were arresting. Now he's just said, give me the ones you already have
in prison. Okay. This does two things. It isolates the extremists.
because if Walson Fry refused that, well now, excuse me, I said you do it.
I'm not asking for everybody, you know, all the Somalis that live on the street.
I'm asking for the rapist and the traffickers and the violent offenders, the ones that you have already arrested.
Why are you defending them now?
They have to go on record, no ambiguity.
That takes all of the political weight off of them and shifts it back to Trump.
It shifts accountability.
Now Trump can actually truthfully say, look, I offered a focused, humane, criminal only solution,
and they're still standing in the way.
That's devastating in court.
That's devastating in Congress.
That is devastating in public opinion.
When.
Next, agents are leaving many.
What does that mean? When I read that, I'm like, what? This line is doing enormous psychological
work for the left. Or is it? Because what's likely happening is metro surges are scaling down.
The overt presence is reduced. The intelligence warrants and targeting is continuing.
but cooperation is demanded through custody and transfers instead of street ops.
Get those guys first.
In other words, less spectacle, same authority, cleaner lanes.
You know, I've been saying for the last few days.
Trump wants this to be boring.
He wants this to be boring.
This should not be a daily spectacle.
This should be boring.
We're going and getting the good guys.
I'm sorry, we're going to get the bad guys and the good guys are winning.
But that's not what's happening now.
Trump does not need ice agents clashing with protesters on camera to deport criminals.
Have you been watching this at all and thought, what is the rest of the world seeing this through their eyes?
Through the BBC and everybody else.
You know how this is making America look.
We look like Iran because of the way it's being spun around the rest of the world.
And I'm not saying that's true.
But optics matter.
He needs paper trails, custody chains, and,
legal clarity. Now, he pulls one guy out and he says, we're sending in somebody else that can work
with you. And who does he send? This is the real tell. Tom Holman? If this was a retreat or a white
flag, Holman would not be the guy who's being sent in. Okay? Instead, Holman is sent in. He's the face.
He's the negotiator. He's the enforcer after all the political dust settles. Homan is not
a cupcake. I don't know if you've noticed that. Okay. That should tell you every that to me is a signal
to you who are like, I think he just, I think he just surrendered. No, he sent in Tom Holman.
That's like sending into Iran, you know what? We're going to negotiate. We're sending
Raisin Kane. Homan's role is just really simple. You don't have to like us. Just hand over the
criminals. I'm just here to get the criminals you already have. Just hand him over. And if Minnesota
complies, Trump wins quietly. If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. That's not blinking. That's
checkmate positioning. And here's a deeper play. They're denying the left a legitimacy crisis.
The left wants and needs images of federal agents versus crowds of civilians. They need claims of
unconstitutional mass arrest. They're not happening. You know it's not happening. But does the
world know that? Does America need that? The left needs a moral panic, a shutdown showdown,
international condemnation narratives. Trump, once again, boring enforcement, narrow targets,
governors on the hook, courts on his side, public exhaustion with the activists, not with him,
and the law enforcement side. So he did what they hate most, I think.
He de-escalated without conceding any authority.
So what is this moment actually?
I feared, and I said this yesterday before this was announced, I fear, you know, you have to go after them.
Otherwise, if you leave, you're Reagan and Beirut.
And that's really bad.
This is not Reagan and Beirut.
This is Grant pausing before the next push, letting the other side step forward and expose itself.
Trump did not blink.
He lowered the noise.
He tightened the rules.
He moved the burden.
He preserved legitimacy.
He forced his opponents to make their own choices,
loudly and publicly on center stage.
And now Minnesota's leaders are standing alone saying,
will not help remove criminals?
I've been looking for things that are going to break spells.
Because honestly, I think it's a spell.
I do.
You know, you can look at it in the old, you know, the old way or you can look at it just as words and media are so powerful.
It's like casting a spell.
But how do you break the spell of reasonable people who don't hate America?
They don't want, you know, they don't look at America as Turtle Island.
They don't want to destroy everything.
How do you look at, how do you break that spell and say, look what you're doing?
This is it.
This is it.
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We are going to talk about what is happening in Minneapolis,
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And I couldn't come up with one,
because everything that the left is doing now in Minnesota does not lead to what Martin Luther King used to say,
reconciliation because at the end you can't have a winner and a loser you can't have you know can't have a
winner and a loser with us because if we if we don't change people's hearts then you have half the
country that still believes what they do and they want to kill you and we need reconciliation
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and I think it's why the scriptures say we don't fight flesh and bone.
We fight principalities.
We fight evil because only evil.
This is not human that is making somebody say this.
This is a health care worker in Virginia.
Her name is Melinda.
She works at VCU Health in Richmond, Virginia.
And she has posted a series of TikToks.
And I want you to listen to what.
what she is saying.
Listen to this.
Cut for.
I thought of something good.
I think it's something weird.
Sabotage tactic or at least scare tactic.
All the medical providers grab some syringes with needles on the end.
Have them full of saline or sucks in a colon.
You know, whatever, whatever.
That will probably be a deterrent.
Be safe.
Are the single ladies where these ice guys are going have a chance to do something, you know,
not without risk, but could help the cause for sure.
Get on Tinder, get on Tinge, find these guys.
They're around.
They're an ice agent.
Bring some X-lax and put it in their drinks.
Get them sick.
Nobody's going to die.
Just enough to incapacity them get them off the street for the next day.
Okay.
So she's saying spike their food, get them sick.
She was talking about filling a syringe with a paralytic just to scare them.
That's sick.
That's, I mean, is anybody for that?
Listen to this.
This is James O'Keefe yesterday.
He wrote yesterday,
I've never experienced anything quite like today in my life.
I've interacted with a cartel.
I've witnessed crazy things.
But what strikes me in Minnesota is how.
organize these agitators in Minneapolis are. They have spotters everywhere in the city and the
suburbs on street corners, even 30 minutes away from downtown. They have people at hotels that work
with them and signal to them, which made it making it difficult for us to lose our tail once my
cover was blown. I usually lose a tail, not this time. I switched locations three times. I recorded
and posted this while leaving this area while they were still surveilling, uh, surveying, uh, surveying, uh,
We all agreed we must take these threats public as soon as possible, even if we had people still in the field with hidden cams.
Earlier around noon, Cam Higby released his report on signal threads.
I was inside of what appeared to be a fully autonomous zone.
Remember that in Seattle?
The Chad autonomous zone.
No police presence.
The police had been told to leave.
I identified myself as press and they said they would kill press and they would not let me leave.
My skin was fully covered because it was so cold, but because they couldn't verify who I was,
they screamed and started throwing ice bottles at us.
One hit the Marine who was with me.
They patted him down like they were the authorities attempting to confiscate any weapons.
They were set to destroy our vehicle before we even got to it.
I have a full video report shortly.
this is an insurrection.
And so I've been thinking for the last few days.
So how do you stop this?
Because it's going to force the president to declare an insurrection.
And that's going to give them what they want.
They're very well organized.
And you go to civil war.
And I thought, how does anybody buy into this stuff?
How are these people, because they've been slowly boiled like a frog?
okay they they they don't know who they're standing next to and how do you break that spell well
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Okay, so your thinking and mine
has been, we have got to send in more troops.
We have got to take control of this situation.
That's what they want.
So what if we thought of something completely different?
And I want you just to imagine for a second.
Imagine something,
what would happen if we imagine something different that wasn't louder,
not angrier,
not more certain of our own righteousness,
but higher.
As I look through history,
it tells us the greatest moments of change
did not come when one side finally crushed the other.
When real change comes is when ordinary people choose a courage that felt almost unreasonable at the time.
Two figures in history have proven this.
Martin Luther King, he called it unarmed truth and unconditional love.
Gandhi called it truth force.
Both of them believed in something totally radical that the strongest force in human affairs is not domination.
but a disciplined compassion that is so visible, so undeniable when it shows up, that it actually
unsettles, even those who are prepared for violence. It's unsettling. It breaks spells.
So for just a minute, imagine, not instruct, not demand, but imagine what if in a moment like
this a third presence appeared? You have ice, you have all the people that are angry on that side,
and then you have these agitators and insurrections on the other side that are willing to do anything.
And then a third presence, not aligned with rage, not aligned with fear, not aligned with vengeance or defiance, just aligned with human dignity.
What if there were men and women who would step forward not to confront, not to shout, not to accuse, just to stand?
what if there was a group of people that locked arms not in hostility but in resolve?
What if there were a group of people that became a living boundary?
Not against people, but against chaos.
What if there was a group of people that would not carry weapons?
They would not chant insults.
They would not demand surrender.
They would not respond.
They would say nothing at all.
They would just simply stand between anger and authority, between accusation and response, bearing their own bodies as witnesses to a simple truth, that no worker, whether you're an ice agent or an ice cream vendor, should ever have to fear for their life in doing their job.
That no protester, however passionate, should ever be manipulated into becoming a pawn in someone else's strategy of escalation.
that human life is not a prop.
Tragedy is not a tactic.
Imagine the cameras.
Not capturing fists or fear.
Just faces.
Faces calm in the storm.
Faces resolved, not reactive.
Faces that refuse to mirror the violence that they stood against.
Imagine the confusion that would cause.
And it wouldn't it wouldn't cause outrage.
cause hesitation. People would all of a sudden go, wait, what is happening here? Because Martin Luther
King and Gandhi both knew this kind of action does something extraordinary. Okay. It denies,
it denies both sides their expectation of conflict. King taught nonviolence is not the absence
of tension. It is the creation of a moral
tension that is so pure it demands reflection instead of retaliation.
When they were sick in the dogs on Martin Luther King's people, when they were beating them,
when they were fire hose, the rest of the country looked at that and said, wait, what is happening?
See, there were real racists in the 1960s, obviously, and there still are, but there were real
racists. And then there were people like probably like my grandparents who had grown up being told
things and it was just the way it was. And they weren't racists, but they were kind of asleep.
They were just, you know, that's just the way it was. And then Martin Luther King came along and then
they saw people that they related to because, you know, we shouldn't have interracial marriage
or whatever they were thinking at the time. And then they saw Martin Luther King come.
come along and he breaks all of everything that they've ever thought or ever been told
about black people. And then they see that, wait, wait, my side is hosing these people down.
My side is sicking dogs on them. They're not my side. And it breaks the spell.
If they were violent, it would have done exactly the same. It just would have divided everybody more.
Martin Luther King realized you've got to win the hearts of the other side and break the spell.
And so the narrative shifts, not us versus them, not oppressors versus victims, but a different question begins to rise in the mind of the public.
Why are these people willing to risk themselves?
Why aren't they fighting?
Why not fight?
Why are they standing there to protect?
What do they see?
What do they have that I don't know or have forgotten?
Martin Luther King said it over and over again because people argued with them that surrender.
It's not weakness.
It's not surrender.
It's strength.
It's strength so composed that it refuses to be dragged down.
And Gandhi believed that when truth is embodied, not shouted, embodied, lived, it becomes unavoidable.
King believed love, when disciplined and public, will shame injustice without humiliating the unjust.
And perhaps, just perhaps, this is.
how nations change. Not when one side breaks the other, but when enough people remember,
the goal was never victory. The goal was reconciliation. I don't want victory over my family
members that don't talk to me anymore. I want reconciliation. I want to come back together.
I want peace, but I want peace with justice. I want a future where our children can inherit
it something better than just anger at one another.
So I ask you today, what would happen if we remembered that?
What if we allowed ourselves to believe again that there still is a higher third road?
And walking that road just might be the most powerful thing we could ever do.
Not because it's easy, not because it guarantees success, but it reminds us who we are capable of being.
could we in a country of 350 million people find 350 people that would be willing to do that?
Who would be mentally and spiritually prepared enough to do that?
This terrified me when I thought about this last night.
I'm not sure.
Can we find?
Because I don't think I'm one of them.
I don't think I'm spiritually or mentally prepared to stand and just be called names and stand as a
shield for somebody and and love the people who are spitting at you.
Can we find 350 million people in, sorry, 350 people out of 350 million that could
actually do it and would do it?
Let me ask you this.
Do you think you could find 50 pastors that would do it?
50.
50.
there are 100,000 pastors plus in this country.
Could you find 50 of them that would do this?
I'm not sure.
Because that's who should do it or should lead it.
Because this is a spiritual thing.
We're not fighting flesh and bone.
We are not fighting these people.
Again, let me just go back to the one thing I just said.
I have people in my family that will no longer speak to me.
And it has been the biggest heartbreak of my life.
And I weathered this storm for 20 years.
And in the last five years, it just broke apart, fell apart,
and I have people who I dearly love.
I don't want to win.
I don't need them to win.
don't need them to say, you're right. You were right. You won. I don't need that. I don't want
that. I just want them back at the table. I just want them to know, I love them, and that's more
important than anything else. And I want them to say, I love you. And that's more important than any
politics or anything else. Every single tactic, if you will, that we play out. If it's not led by God,
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I can't believe I'm saying this.
And I'm not the guy for this.
But that is the only answer.
I can sit here and give you other political answers and everything else,
but that is the only answer.
This will not be one.
We have to reconcile with people who are under this spell of lies.
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but I'm here at the studio, you know, in the legendary fashion to make sure I can make it here for the
last four days of the program. Yeah. At least in my... Everybody else has been at the
studio for days, but you keep calling yourself a hero. So, Stu, this is Stu's last week.
Yeah. And he's going to announce what he's going to be doing. He's, he's leaving the program to go do his own thing, which normally I would recommend against. But this, honestly, when I heard the idea of like, this is him. This is so him. I think it will be, you know, it's just what he has to do. And, you know, I didn't know that Nick Fuentes was looking for a producer for a show, but he's, or. Or so.
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I'm going to miss you so much on a day-to-day basis. You know, one of the things that was the very
first thing that I think I taught you on my show, this is when we were doing mornings and you were a
producer on my morning show, is you wreck me. If I can't take wrecking me, I shouldn't be able to
wreck anybody else. And people, long-term listeners understand new people are like, what is happening
here? We are good friends. We love each other to death. And there's nobody, you me and Pat,
there's nobody that can wreck us harder than ourselves. And I'm going to miss it. It's true. I will
say there was the beginning of all of that. You did say that very early on. And you just don't know
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fine with it. And you actually are, which is stunning, frankly, because we've hit you very hard
over the years. I will destroy you now. There have been times like whatever that this bad superhero
show is on Amazon Prime with the laser eyes. There are times, I think, you're just going to
bust out the laser eyes and make us all explode. But you haven't. So,
far. So I haven't yet. I haven't yet. You know, glad I was thinking to your last,
your last segment. And it was fascinating. I am in, I will say, in a bit of a reminiscent mode right
now. As this has been 28 years I've been working with you. And everything I now see through the
lens of this weird journey we've been on. But like your last break was essentially your entire life.
your entire journey all encapsulated into one segment, which is this battle, right?
And I think it's a real battle that people face all the time, which is this battle between you.
I know you.
I know what you just said is completely true.
Like, you really want, there's a great part of you that wants to be able to stand there and just like, hey, like, can't we just figure this out?
Isn't there a way that we don't have to be completely insane?
And, but you're also a person who recognizes, and I heard this in the first hour as I was bravely driving into the studios, this, this part of you that also recognizes there are groups of people out there that are united and organized and doing everything they can to destroy everything that you love, that this country was built on.
Yeah.
And those two parts of you and I think two parts of this real situation are really difficult to square.
How do you do that?
Well, because it's not, you're not going, you're not going to convince them.
If they want to destroy them, you're not going to change their, they belong in jail.
What I'm talking about are, again, like I said, the people like maybe our grandparents or great-parent grandparents might have been.
That they just grew up believing one thing.
And then Martin Luther King came along and they're like, wait, wait, wait.
He's actually a good guy.
He's, I'm on the wrong side.
And they weren't dug in.
They weren't racist.
They were just kind of going along with it because that's what they thought.
It takes something earth shattering to break that spell.
And it takes what Martin Luther King and Gandhi talked about.
It takes this bravery.
I mean, you know, I was just listening to Jason in the, in the insider feed.
And he said some of the, some of the responses, Stephen wrote in and said,
these people would be eaten alive if they did that.
if they stood between the protesters and ice and just locked arm.
That time is passed.
They'd be bashed and beaten.
Yeah, they probably would, but that's exactly the point.
That's what's so shocking.
Why would somebody, Martin Luther King again,
why would somebody walk in and put themselves in that situation
where they know they're going to be hosed down by firehorses?
They're going to be punched in the face.
they're going to, and they will not react.
It's almost inhuman.
And it's beyond stupidity.
It's, it's, it is only an act of something that most people go, I don't understand what is
happening here.
Why are those people doing it?
Because those people believe in something bigger than themselves, bigger than their
own pain, bigger than their own loss.
You know, they believe that, they believe that you are worth reconciling with.
even though you might hate them, you're worth enduring that.
So we can get to a place to where we can actually talk to one another again.
Because we don't think, Martin Luther King knew that America wasn't a racist country.
It had racist policies and there were racist that lived here.
But he knew the foundation was not racist.
It was a system of government and the declaration.
He challenged you.
live up to the declaration, where the approach now of the left is the exact opposite of Martin Luther King.
So they've become the aggressors on society.
And that's what we have to get people to wake up to.
The people you think are standing with you that, you know, just want an end to, you know, these racist policies or whatever,
they don't want the same thing that you want.
They will punch and kill and take a syringe and fill it with a paralytic and jam it into your neck because it might delay you.
That's not human.
That's not American.
That's not anything anybody would ever recognize.
But you can't sit there and just talk to people and say, come on, you don't believe in that.
Because they will dismiss that.
They will just immediately dismiss.
But when they see their side punching somebody in the face who refuses to punch back, fairness and justice, just roars inside of each of us.
That's interesting, Glenn, because I think certainly when you talk about the types of people you talked about in the first hour, right?
These groups that are angrily going out there and trying to attack ICE agents.
And there's a lot of those, they are they are not working towards.
you know, the Martin Luther King solution.
No, they're not.
That's what gave me, that's what brought me here, those, do is that everything they're doing
does not lead to anything other than balkanization.
That's not what Americans want.
And I agree with you on that.
However, let me just push back a little bit on this part, part of it.
The actions, let's say, of Alex Pretty, for example, I don't know what his involvement was
on the levels you're talking about in hour one.
Maybe he was deep inside of all of these groups and was angrily trying to overthrow the government.
We might find that out.
I mean, we don't know yet.
But what we do know, I think, what the American, I don't see that in the video.
What I see in the video, again, this is, I'm trying to think about how the American people are seeing this.
They're not watching every single angle.
They're only seeing what the mainstream media is presenting to them or what TikTok is presenting to them.
What they see in that moment is exactly what you're talking about with Martin Luther
King. They see a guy who's who's helping a, you know, kind of helping a woman across the road,
then jumps in between an altercation after an agent pushes a woman to the ground and he jumps
in between them. Again, when you're- Martin Luther King would have, Martin Luther King would have
condemned him for that. If he was arrested, he would have let him sit in jail for that.
Look, I don't do that. I, you know, there's, I'm trying to take my own personal opinion out of this
and just put into what I think the American people would see,
certainly a good chunk of them.
And I think what they would argue here is they are doing what you're suggesting.
They, he's there.
Why is he there?
We keep saying like, hey, why are you going out to these things?
You're going to get in the way and there's a chance that something like this happens.
And their responses, and I think this is actually sort of your point,
which is they are trying to take that mantle.
they are trying to take the Martin Luther King mantle.
They are trying, not all of them, but many of them are trying to look at that.
They look at Alex Prattie as a person who put principle above his own safety.
I'm not saying I agree with all of that, but like I do think that's how it's being, you know, pitch to the American people.
Yes.
And I think the average person when they saw Prattie and they saw what he did, because I, that was my reaction.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
What is happening?
He is just trying to stand between the police, but he is getting involved, but he's standing between the police, and then there's a shoving match, and then they pull him down to the ground, and then they shoot him.
Okay, he's carrying a gun, which, you know, he has a very right to do, but I would suggest if anybody wanted to do it the right way, Martin Luther King did not carry a gun.
And you don't get involved in pushing back.
They tell you to go down on the ground, you go down on the ground.
they tell you to do something, you do it.
You do it.
You take, if they beat you with a club, you take the beating with the club.
That's Martin Luther King.
And that's what breaks the spell, not the whistles.
They're showing up with whistles.
They're antagonizing.
And they are also obnoxious with it.
And so if you're watching that, you on the other side, you might be able to see and go,
well, you know, he didn't do, but you'll immediately go, yeah, but he's one.
I mean, he was with the whistle.
What is he?
He was probably with them anyway.
deeply. My guess is he wasn't deeply with them. I could be wrong, but my guess is the way he behaved,
he wasn't deeply with the radicals. He was more of a, hey, I just think this is wrong. Okay.
And then he had no discipline at all. There's nobody leading that discipline. In fact, the other
side is pushing for chaos, not discipline. So he had no rules and, you know, anything. And he gets him
killed because that's what happens when you engage in stuff like that.
But I think average person saw that. And that's what the press wants you to see. That's what
the press wants you to believe. But a disciplined action like that, protecting people who are
doing their job, that's it. And I'm not judging either side. I'm just saying this is not the answer.
I think that would break a spell.
It'd be really hard.
Honestly, I thought about it last night.
I don't think you could get, I mean, remember, Martin Luther King had thousands of people that joined him in several cities.
I don't know if you could get it today.
And you certainly won't get it unless you have pastors leading it.
But, you know, are the pastors even brave enough to do that?
A movement like that would require a leader with incredible bravery.
And I'm not going to sit here and just say that I'm the guy for the job.
you know, after my drive today.
Well, you're, after your drive, yeah.
You know, you have demonstrated your heroic.
I just can't believe a lot of people are saying it.
That's, you know, I was surprised by people bringing that up to me and saying what a hero I was and I should lead a movement in a nation.
What, that's just not what I, what I'm looking to do here, Glenn.
There's a man of the people.
I can't tell you how much I'm going to miss this.
I really can't tell you how much I'm going to miss this.
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Thank you so much, Glenn.
I'm so happy to be here and talk to you again.
How have you been?
I've been great.
I'm glad you're probably maybe a little warmer
than you were in Davos last week.
Tell me quickly about that.
Your big takeaway from that.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
You know, what really surprised me was
we assume that they would have big pointy teeth and fangs
and we thought it would be full of lizard people,
but it's just these people who live in an absolute bubble
that's completely separate from the world.
And they make all these policies
and the policies that they make that affect the rest of us
just don't affect them.
It's so far removed that they just live in this bubble
in this world they think they're changing.
You do think that there are those who know exactly what they're doing.
For instance, let's go to Minnesota.
There are people that absolutely know what they're doing and are hiding it because they have a different,
I mean, I'm talking about one of the things you're just revealed is the connection of tending the soil.
They know exactly what they're doing.
They're not in a bubble, right?
Oh, yes, absolutely. That's exactly right. You know, you have to understand the whole group there. I mean, I don't really like this term, but they're called globalists. And they're the ones who want to control everything. And then we have the real communist, right? The actual real communist workers with other countries and they're doing deals with other governments. And yes, they know exactly what they're doing. For example, Antifa.
has relationships with all of these organizations and they make plans together.
So a research file that directs people with money to a website,
stand with Minnesota,
then directs donors to a campaign run by tending the soil on chuffed.
What are they raising money for specifically?
Well, the goal is, quote, unquote, to support protesters,
front line protesters, right, to support the front lines of that.
But quote unquote, right?
So what concerns me more about that is that, you know, the platform in Canada has been run by a union person, a man called Johnny Suppoetic.
I'm sorry, pronouncing his name.
I'm not exactly sure.
You know, I'm deaf.
But he was actually the first person to donate.
Because I don't know how to say it either.
Hang on just a second.
It's S-O-P-P-O-T-I-U-K.
I don't know how to pronounce it either, but a Canadian.
Anyway, go ahead.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Plus, I'm deaf.
I wouldn't know how to pronounce it anyway.
But what that tells me is that that man, Donnie,
that's a point-tick or whatever his name was,
he was the first person who donated,
which means that he's controlling the finance for these protesters there.
He was the first person to donate to that organization.
And this Canadian organization, and because he's Canadian, it's proof that outside nations have been influencing these quote-unquote organizations that are supporting protesters.
So what is chuffed?
The far left platform that encourages finances for, like yesterday, I saw that they had, they were scrapping all of the roles and all of the.
the, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry.
So I'm scrapping. I was trapping their databases.
Sorry, I just wanted to say I was scrapping their databases yesterday.
And what I found was they're supporting a lot of things like, so there's obviously they're
making money there because they're being supported by a lot of, they don't have any processes.
That's the problem. They don't have any processes there. Oh, they don't have any processes there.
Oh, they don't have any.
I'm so sorry. I'm really missing this.
That's okay.
So the video is bad. I'm sorry. Our video is stalling.
That's okay. Why don't, why don't we skip to the next?
Let don't we skip to the question.
They don't have any. Okay, go ahead.
So when all this money is coming in, sorry, the video was slow, Glenn, forgive me.
So what's happening is when all this money is coming into these organizations,
there's no processing fees. So there's no way to really track any of this.
So when this money is coming through and going to these activist organizations, there's no fees.
there's no way to follow it.
So let me go back to the signal data here for a second, the signal chats.
They're using a website called sign up genius.
And it looks like we have some high-level Democrats in Minnesota have been present as for some of these chats.
Can you tell me anything about that?
Yes, yes, that.
So the chats, I have proof that the people are in these chats.
they're going through the system in such way that you see car license plates information in real time.
They're pulling people's license plate information, and that is completely illegal.
And that's happening.
And there's some, like you said, high-level people in these signal chats that are connected with the Minnesota government.
So they're pulling in license plate information from the state?
Yes, and it's completely against the terms of service.
The contract, the contract terms of service is completely against.
that. So it's completely illegal that they're giving personal information. So they're putting
pressure on an air table. They're putting pressure on signal and air table. So you said you're getting
much less sanitized spreadsheet. And you're getting that to the powers that be is as cash
Patel or anybody. Are they opening investigation into the signal chats? Do you have anything?
People are getting frustrated because they don't think that the government is moving.
Are you seeing movement from your perspective on the government?
Well, obviously, you know, I can't really talk about who the powers that be are here in this situation, Glenn.
But they are doing something.
And I am seeing some traction because they are very serious.
And, you know, this is something that has to be handled delicately as well.
And so I have a feeling that I'm getting the feeling that it's trying to get all the organizations at the same time, right?
It would be kind of a waste of time for Cash Patel and the FBI to really just go against this one organization because the more important thing to understand here, Glenn, is that it's an entire network.
So it would be easier to get it on a whole network scale as opposed to just going after one individual organization.
Any sense at this moment how much of that network is inside the government and how much,
inside the United States and how much might be outside of the United States?
I'm not going to like, Glenn.
It's huge.
And almost every, almost every institution, almost every institution is captured by it.
It's, it's infiltrated almost everything that you can possibly think of.
And the other important thing to understand is that all of these organizations that have been set up for some,
purpose in the past, that purpose has changed and been infiltrated by these type of systems.
Do you see a way out?
Yes, absolutely.
And in fact, I wrote it in my upcoming book.
So to explain it longer, but to explain it longer in the book, but it's not what you think.
And it's already happening.
In fact, I'm going to present this solution in about two weeks.
In fact, I have a presentation.
Can we eavesdrop on that or can we get you to come back in a couple of weeks after you've made that presentation?
Yes. Oh, of course. Absolutely. I'm actually going to be doing the presentation itself at the old state saloon.
And it'll be broadcasted on X. But afterwards, I would love to come back and have a longer, deeper discussion with you, Glenn.
We always get the best information out on Glenn Bet.
Yeah, well, thank you. And I just, I adore you. And we pray for you.
And may God keep you safe.
And I just, I can't tell you, you have done so much for the nation.
And it's just a, there are a few people like you that are brave, willing to endure whatever comes your way and just won't stop.
And I, I just so admire you.
So thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Glenn.
Yeah, I really appreciate that.
And I would love to really dive into this at you later.
Great.
We'll talk again.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
That was a little disturbing, wasn't it?
And because of the translation, it's a little, it's hard because you're like, you're standing
at the doctor's office and he's like, well, I have some bad news.
Okay, what, what, what, what?
It looks like you have, what, what, what, what, what.
It's true.
It's true.
It is, it is amazing, honestly.
It's an exercise.
exercise in patients. Yes, it is. She's a remarkable woman. And it's legitimately amazing. You're able to communicate with someone like that in that way. I can, I'm sure if you're listening on radio, especially if you didn't hear the beginning of that. And you're talking, you're basically having a conversation with someone who's deaf and mute, you said. So really difficult to have that conversation through a translator in real time. I know it's a little difficult. That information is really important. And what I really liked is that we're doing on a
on radio, but we were communicating through video so she could see my mouth as well.
That's a lot.
That's a very complicated interview, very complicated interview.
Anxious to have her back in a couple of weeks.
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I think that's for Roger to talk about, not me, but I mean, he worked with him through all kinds of, all kinds of stuff.
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I'm not.
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You know what I'm going to miss most about you?
What's that?
No, I was hoping you're as a producer and writer had something you could fill here.
No.
No.
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because it is one of my favorite things
about this show that you would put up with it.
There have been times where I,
even after 20-something years,
you'd be in the middle of this really a heartfelt, really powerful, great thing that it wasn't
like I thought it sucked or anything. It was incredible. And then I would have to come in as
I believe my role on the program was to, no, anyone ever told me it was my role, but I believed
it was to just come in and just, just ruin it right before commercials. That's what I always
felt was important. And I tried to bring that to you. It's my favorite. But you know, somebody said,
you know, how are you going to replace Stu? And I'm like, you're not going to replace Stu.
There's no replacing Stu. There's nobody, and I'm not going to hire somebody to fill in for
Stu because that has taken 30 years to master the timing and knowing exactly when to say
something thoroughly inappropriate and mean. And I just, I'm going to miss it, Stu.
Oh, well, you know, I think, yeah, every once in a while you might just go to the phones and
on the phone is someone saying the most inappropriate thing.
It's good old Bob for Milwaukee is just going to be there.
Right.
He might sound a little bit like me.
It just happens to be listening and had the same exact thought I might have had in that particular moment.
You know, one of the things that I've always liked, and I did it, and I don't even know if it was ever entertaining for the audience, but it was so entertaining for me is I would say to you, here, I want you to get on the phone.
Just follow me.
And you would get on the phone, and I'd say, we have on the phone, Biff Herfner.
blur and and you'd go hello Glenn how are you and be good now Biff you milk cattle but you milk steers
and then you would have to whatever I said you would just have to make it work and it was I don't know
because we never said that's what we were doing nobody ever knew that this was just Glenn torturing
stew and it was so far I will say if you
If you'd like to know what that was like from my perspective,
if you watch the Netflix special of the guy climbing Taipei 101 that was on the other night,
taking the outside of a building with a free solo and just going all the way up 101 stories
to the needle at the top, that's what it felt like.
Because I had no idea where you were going.
I had no idea what I was participating in.
And I just had to go.
And those were that.
I don't know if that was the most entertaining thing for the audience.
It was the most torturous for me.
It's so most entertaining for you.
You used to look at me right because we'd do it right before we'd crack a mic.
I'd look at you.
Grab the phone.
I need you on the phone real quick.
You'd look at me like, oh, dear God, no.
Please, I don't know.
And I go, it's Glenn Beck program.
And we've got Biff on the phone.
He should have seen sometimes his eyes.
I would say something to him and he would be like,
what the hell am I supposed to do with that?
He just looked at me like this poor sad little puppy dog.
Like, yeah.
I have nowhere to go here.
Oftentimes it would devolve into this caller just being very angry at the host.
It had nothing to do.
It would just, my real emotions would come out and that would be the entire call.
I will say one of the things I will miss, I think, more than anything.
One of my favorite things we ever did here, and I don't know that I've ever laughed harder was
and we're only a couple weeks away from Valentine's Day,
the Valentine's Day extravaganza we would do annually on this program,
which was really designed to bring couples together.
Oh, I believe we did.
I think we did too.
I believe we saved marriages.
Maybe destroyed a few as well.
Well, probably because they deserve to be destroyed.
They probably did destroy that.
But we would take it.
We would do it the day after Valentine's Day.
and people we would solicit for callers, like if you screwed up, if you forgot Valentine's Day,
if you forgot to book the restaurant, if you forgot to get a gift, and you're, you are now in that period
where you're in the silent treatment, everything has gone against you.
You are in the doghouse, 100%.
We will, if you are of the right moral character, bail you out with a one-time get-out-a-jail-free card called the
couple of the year competition.
Well, it was my effort to help stupid guys one time, but there were a few rules to it.
For instance, I mean, if you had missed several things, you know, the cost started going up and you had to pay for.
I would say we were going to send you out for this great dinner, but the guy had to pay for it.
I wasn't paying for it because it was your mistake.
So you pay for it.
And you won this dinner as couple of the year.
And so we would announce what it was.
And they would be, I'd get them on the phone.
And it was a form letter that we would have them fill out.
You just, it was, go ahead.
You have to add into the point that you would first of all put, you would talk to the guy and you
would, you'd hear the whole sob story about how they screwed up and how bad they felt.
And then you would promise to call the wife and say, have that you put them on hold so they
could hear the broadcast.
and you would fraudulently produce in real time a segment where you'd say,
well, you know, and I just hope I just, this is a big surprise.
So please, everybody hold on.
So they would hear that and it would get what's going on, what's going on?
And then you'd play this incredible music, this, was it Barry White?
It was something.
It was something of that sort of tone, at least.
And it would build up and there's this hype flowing.
And then there's this amazing announcer that was.
would come on with a big voice and introduce this extravagant contest for a couple of the year.
And you would come on and with the most heartfelt sincerity, apologize to the woman because you told the husband not to celebrate Valentine's Day this one time because we had to do it in this incredible competition you had built up over an entire year looking for the most romantic couple in the entire nation.
And you finally found it.
It was her husband this whole time and he had to hold out on Valentine's Day and withhold all these.
Because I was sick.
Yeah, you were sick.
You were out.
You missed the day.
I was out.
I couldn't make it.
And so they would have this amazing, you know, a presentation.
And then you would bring in this form letter that you would require the people, the guy to basically memorize with one really important part.
at the end, depending on how bad they were to their spouse, depending on how egregious their violation of this relationship,
you would then determine the length of pause that they had to have on the air between honey.
Saying their name.
Yep.
Yeah.
And then space, maybe three seconds, maybe five, maybe seven, maybe nine.
and then I love you.
And if they didn't wait the full time,
you promise you would blow the whole thing on them on the air.
You would ruin it on the air if they didn't wait the full seven or nine seconds.
And seven or nine seconds in your life does not sound like a lot of time.
When you are on radio, sweetheart.
Because you're trying to muster this false,
He's swelling up.
He's about to cry.
He's trying to hold it off.
You had to time that perfectly.
And not only was that a complete nightmare for the guy trying to attempt it, because
if he cut it short, you'd blow it on them.
You'd blow the whole thing for them.
I would have.
The other thing was, we have radio affiliates that have silence sensors, like, if their air
goes down.
So, like, they have dead air sensors.
And we already set them off all the time because of your pauses in the middle of your
crazy monologues.
But in this contest, there would be designed seven second of nothing.
That doesn't happen on radio.
You're not supposed to do that.
So the stations would be freaking out.
The entire country would be freaking out.
And if you're a listener, you're hearing this escapade go on over and over and over and over and over.
The same thing.
The same words happen to people over and over 10, 12, 15 times in a show.
All across the country.
All across the country.
and these poor women are like thinking they have this amazing thing happen to them.
And it's just,
you just heard it 12 other times with other guys.
I just wanted them to believe.
And I think one of the reasons why we stopped it was,
didn't one of the women like get the award and then decide to tune in?
Yeah.
And she tunes in and she hears me doing it with somebody else.
She's like, what the hell happened here, Harold?
Same script.
Exactly.
So, I mean, I would say percentage-wise,
we probably saved more relationships than ruined,
but there were some collateral damages.
Hey, you want to make an omelet.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to make an omel.
If there's nothing else,
we're always led by the words of Stalin.
And I think that's the right heart for that bit.
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Don't lose touch. Glenn Beck will be back after this.
This is the Glenn Beck program. By the way, Stu's going to be announcing where he's going
later on this week on this program. And if you miss it, you can find him at YouTube.com
Stoo does America, which I just noticed,
Stu doesn't have, you know,
Stu also got his start on legendary broadcaster,
really epic show, Glenn Beck,
or nothing about, you know,
I'm the executive producer of your show.
And I don't see any of that on that.
I don't understand the lack of gratitude there, it seems.
I mean, when you're trying to hide something, you try not to put it in as many places as possible.
It's like, why did you leave that off your resume?
Because I didn't want people to see it.
Yeah, we still have three full shows.
So, I mean, if that's where we're going to play, that's, okay, I got it.
I got it.
I just want to know the rules going in because tomorrow is going to be an interesting show.
Well, if you want, I will allow you to rewrite the description of the channel to whatever you want for the next three days.
Yes, yes.
You, until we...
Oh, I would hate to do that, but I'm going to take you up on that.
Oh, really?
I like to see.
Because that way you can glaze yourself in front of America appropriately.
Yeah, I might have to have to have a couple of stabs at it.
I might not get it right the first time.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So I might have to change it once in a while.
I mean, just so you know, we wouldn't necessarily, we could always just wait until you felt that you had it right before we posted it.
No, no, no, no.
I think this is important to get it on right away, but it might need a few updates.
I'm saying.
Okay.
You know me, Stu.
I don't like to wait.
I mean, look, I've got three more shows.
What could possibly go more wrong?
So we'll just, good luck, America.
It might be some very interesting descriptions at the Sudas America YouTube page in the very near future.
So, Stu, you know, I didn't get your opinion on what you thought of my.
analysis of Donald Trump not waving the white flag with Minneapolis or Minnesota, but actually
making a very smart reframing move.
Yeah.
What did you think?
Interesting.
We talked briefly about this before the show started.
And I was, I kind of made the point of like, you know, this does feel like a little bit
like a back down in some ways.
And you said, oh, no, you got to listen to what I'm going to be talking about coming up.
And you went through and I was on my way in a heroic drive through ice.
snow and sleet to get here this morning.
There's a quarter of an inch of snow on the ground.
But it's,
but it's solid,
a solid quarter of an inch,
except in some places where it's one eighth.
And it was interesting,
when you were laying that out,
I agreed with what you were saying.
I think,
you know,
what maybe we had a,
a little bit of a separation on us
how to,
how to,
how to,
how to,
how to look at it.
Because I don't,
I definitely don't think Donald Trump's backing down from
being an immigration, illegal immigration hardliner, right?
Like he is not, he is, this is something he's believed since way before he was running for president.
And back in the 80s, he was talking about this stuff.
Yeah.
But it did to, when I, when I was trying to say a backing down, it wasn't as much as he's backing off of the policy.
But it does feel like he is acknowledging that this is being perceived in a way he does not want it to be perceived.
Of course.
He is, it's an acknowledgement of that, which is, I think it's a big moment.
I think that's foolish, though. He's not a dummy. It's foolish not to recognize this is going in the wrong
direction framing wise. And that's why I say, he's just reframing it. He's allowing it to be reframed.
Because, you know, in his book, he talks about never die on the hill that somebody else wants you to
die on. Die in the hill you chose. And that's not a hill he's choosing to die on. So he had to reframe the
whole thing. I think it might.
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