The Glenn Beck Program - 'Chill Out!' (Joel Rosenberg joins Glenn) - 3/15/18

Episode Date: March 15, 2018

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The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Truth. Hashtag shiver me tumbers. Ah, I remember all the pirates saying that. Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean ride is getting the feminist makeover now that, well, not everybody. In fact, no one was clamoring for.

You know the scene, have you ever been to the Pirates of the Caribbean? and, you know, the audio animatronic robotic females are being auctioned off as brides to some male pirates. And there's a voluptuous red-haired robot that seems, you know, not as enthused about getting married to, you know, the pirate after the auction as you might think. Disney says that that sent a very sexist message and it's going away. Okay, I would, I mean, you know, okay.

I'm pretty sure pirates, you know, were sexist. It kind of goes with the rape and pillage part of being a pirate. I mean, it is the last thing we can pillage all you want. But don't you dare touch the ladies. Not that I'm noticing that they're ladies at all. They might be men and I'm perfectly fine with that. I mean, come on. First of all, may I just say,

and I know this is deep and hard to understand. This is stupid. Okay, this is stupid. The looting is also a problem. I mean, that's not exactly the moral high ground, Disney. One Disney fan said, it's uncomfortable for me to even see women being sold into bondage and human trafficking. I can't imagine what little girls think.

about this i don't know maybe stay away from pirates that would be a good thing to teach when you oh my gosh now i i don't know if any kids have watched pirates met pirates but these pirates are robots they're audio animatronic pirates they're not real by the way way and I know that we can't actually there is no objective reality but even in a world where there is no reality it's a theme park in a world where there is no in a world where there is no reality okay it's a it's a ride and it's been a ride it's been open for 51 years Disney first announced this change last summer at the fan convention and the audience started to boo.

Now, that didn't seem to matter because the company is shutting down the ride for the next two months while they make alterations to it anyway, so they don't really care. I mean, it's Disney. What do they care? Disney executives finally going to be able to sleep at night because they've made the change. Oh, my gosh. You know, I haven't been able to sleep since I started working here thinking about the slave auction that has been happening. Those women have been sold in that auction for 51 years, and we haven't done a damn thing. We're finally stopping the madness.

Every two and a half minutes, they are still being sold. They have to relive it over and over and over again. You know, I mean, okay, okay. Maybe it's time for Disney to start taking a... a hard look, you know, at everything they do. Because I think it'll make the park much better. For instance, Dumbo, the flying elephant, really? So you notice that you have the elephant attached to a pole.

You've just rammed a giant pole into the side of the elephant, and now you're making him carry kids. You've hollowed out the inside of the elephant so my kids can sit inside where his heart used to be. Tarzan's treehouse? King of the jungle. He's a white man. He's not king of the jungle. What are you doing? And then on top of that, objectification of males, he scampers around in nothing but his underpants. And I think he's hetero. While you're at it, maybe you should edit out all of the scenes where women are harassed and objectified in the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. or I just be crazy on this for a second.

Maybe, you know, in Aladdin, that, that sweet young woman who you have dressed as a whore, I think somebody should take some crayons and paint a burqa on her. Because how are Muslims going to watch that movie? How are they going to do that in the Middle East? Beauty and the Beast, that whole thing is about a female held hostage by a verbally abusive white male that's finally revealed himself as the monster he is. How about the child neglect and endangerment in Peter Pan? He's being chased by a creepy man with a hook for a hand. I can't imagine what children.

Children must think about that. Yes, it's a story that they tell at the campfire about the guy who went insane and then escaped up the road. And now he's just got this hook and he might be here to kill us. So let's get in the car. And when they got home, there was nothing but a bloody hook on the car door. They almost had him. We don't tell that story. Disney, you're out of your mind.

I mean, the 1950s, do you remember the communist witch hunt vibe? Do you remember that? And you know how that was remembered now? This is the current culture. And, you know, you talk about, Oh, I don't like these Christians who are all after the morality police telling us what we can and can't do. You're down to taking audio-animatronic robots out because you think the pie. Pirates are being sexist.

You know what? You could put a bunch of little boys in there, too, because I don't think the pirates really cared. They were pirates. The only certain thing that would be left to approve would be, no, not Mickey Mouse. He's a mouse that you have enslaved and then humanized and made him part of this throwaway culture.

You know, a true culprit in the objective. and abuse of women? Hmm. I don't know. What do you say the porn industry? No, no, no, no. I'm sorry, you people in Hollywood. You're completely fine with that.

It's Thursday, March 15th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Me, maids, we can't objectify these women or sell them. Marry them off as brides. Let's just go watch a good porno. Was it shiver me-tumbers? Yes. No, hashtag.

Hashtag. Hashtag shiver me-tumbers. So stupid. Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard? Yes. It's just a coll-I-I-I feel like we could just do a whole show every day with just new examples of the dumbest thing you've ever heard. New records set. First of all, do you know why people booed?

You know why they did it at the fan club? The worst place you could do that. Do you know why? You're the Disney nerd here, so no, I don't. Okay. This is the last ride that Walt Disney personally approved and directed. Oh, really? So this is, this is his last gasp as he's like,

hand me a cigarette. You know what we do? Have an auction here. So it's like a, for Disney fans, this is a sacred storyline. It really is a sacred storyline. So they announced this at the fan club where you've got all the geeks like me that are like, what? Yeah, you don't violate nerd culture to their faces. You don't.

You don't. And I mean, what part of pirates? What are we doing? Oh, okay. So now our kids, you know, if we continue down this road, our kids will be begging us to, can we finally go to Yemen or Somalia? They're pirates there. Oh, no, big deal. They're great people.

No, they're pirates. They're pirates. How do the Pittsburgh pirates stay in existence? The baseball team, just to make sure Glenn, you know what I'm talking about. Oh my gosh. Wait a minute. That's hurtful. They're targeting women, these people.

They're actual pirates, and they play baseball? Yes, absolutely. Either Pittsburgh, you're in trouble or I have pirates all wrong. How about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Oh, my gosh. How can that be a thing? All these teams should be banned immediately. Well, I mean, if you've ever been to Gasparilla Parade in Tampa, they may be auctioning off women to marry by 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

In the parade. Oh, yeah. That's definitely part of the parade. Isn't that the mayor? He's auctioning women off. Yeah, it's just part of the parade. Oh, you can't judge it by the afternoon. I mean, it's...

Well, when I say afternoon, I mean one o'clock. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, so technically it is afternoon. It's a pirate storyline. It is. This is part of it. It's like you're going to make Game of Thrones with no violence and no, you know.

And no dragons. No, no dragons. No sex. Because they treat women terribly in Game of Thrones, I'm sure. But it's not, it's part of the storyline. So I was watching, uh, show. I can't give you. I do this every time.

I'm like, it's a story about, oh, Versailles. What is the name of the show? Oh, yeah, Versailles. So it's a, it's some, you know, Game of Thrones kind of show about King Louis, who was, you know, king at four. But then when he turned, you know, in his 20s, his mom dies and he becomes king. And he has to make the decisions and stuff. and he is, he's building Versailles.

I don't know, you know, he wasn't good to women. Really? No, he wasn't. It seems like a trend back then where he could just, he could go all Katie Perry at any time. Right. He could just grab you and kiss you and other things. And other things. Yeah.

So I don't know if, if Hollywood watches their own shows or their own movies, but historically speaking, some guys were bad. Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting to see the complaints today about how evil men are. My daughter started watching Mad Men for the first time. And she said, Dad, have you ever seen it? And I said, ah, yeah. And she's like, I couldn't believe it.

And I'm like, yeah, well, that's the way it was. That's the way it was. Guys were like that. If you watch the Post, you know, the one with the Washington, yeah, the Washington Post story with Tom Hanks. Yeah. Okay. So.

Mediocre Merrill Street. That's her, that's her full name, by the way. I don't really. I mean, if you have to balance all of her movies, I would agree with you. For instance, I think it makes you below mediocre. Even if everything you've ever done, you've won an Oscar and you actually deserve it. Okay, like you were conservative, but you were still winning the Oscars. Sure. Just that Abba movie makes you below mediocre. Yes. Okay, so I'll agree with you. Um, but anyway, she has a

line in that movie where she said, you know, I didn't, I didn't, I'm not the one. Your father was the one that was supposed to run the paper. Okay. It was your dad that was supposed to run the paper, not me. And she's talking to her daughter and she said, Because we never thought of it. I'm a woman. We just, it was different. We just never thought of it. So it was a different world.

Well, now we're thinking about it. No, no. I think there was a time a couple of years ago that we were thinking about it. Now we're just feeling about it. Now we're just feeling about it. I went to Pirates of the Caribbean. and there is a dog at the end that has access to the keys. And then these men are trying to trick the dog with a bone.

And he's not because he's smart because he's a dog. He's not being tricked. But eventually it's been there for 51 years. Eventually he's going to trick that dog. And dogs shouldn't be tricked by people in jail. We're going to, you know what? we always embrace your feelings. We see how you feel and others may, of course, no one in their right mind, but others may feel that way.

So we're going to remove the prisoners. And so we'll just leave the dog there, but we're going to make the dog mayor. He'll be a dog mayor. And he'll be abolishing all prisons for other dogs. Now, it doesn't really fit in the Pirates of the Caribbean storyline, but we've, feel what you're feeling. And that's what's important right now, the feels. It is. What are your feelings? No thinking. No thinking.

None. You know, okay. All right, all right. You want to be in, can you, can you, can't. It's a part of a longer. There is a, yeah, but is it part of a longer clip or is it separate? It's part of a longer clip. Okay, so, um, I want to show you offensive. I just want to show you offensive and I want to show you offensive for a reason freedom of speech we'll do that coming up in a second I was listening to the Glenn Beck program today and I I just felt that he was raping me he was verbally raping me on radio yes I live in India but I heard what Hillary Clinton said he thought about people you want your home sold on time and for the most

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He talks a little bit about how he, how he teases his girlfriend about how the jokes he's going to tell, just to freak her out. And he said, you know, when I was going to do the Golden Globes, these are some of the jokes that I told her I was going to tell. Even on the day, on the way to the red carpet, or in the limo, just to wind her up, I said, oh, I'm going to start with a funny little one line,

just an old-fashioned joke. She went, oh, what, I said, um, what did the death, dumb and blind orphan get for Christmas. And Jane went, I don't know, I said cancer. It's a little dark. He's really funny. He's really funny. You've been playing that as we were prepping for the shows.

It'll be three days to get through the thing, but it is hysterical. My gosh, it's hysterical. you know the the he makes the point in the end uh and he tries to drive at home all the time that there are and we go i want to play a couple of other clips where he he got in trouble about talking about kate jenner and he's like you have to understand the joke you have to understand the joke and and people don't they're just offended and uh reactionary is what reactionary and they're just not thinking. You know, he said, he said, you know, they keep taking referendums because the politicians are too, you know, weak and spineless. And he's like, you know, let's ask the people. He said,

let's let's not ask the people. Let's really not. Do you know how stupid people are? He said, when we can take off the little sign off of bleach that says, do not drink, then let's ask the people. In fact, let's take that off for two years. Then let's hold a referendum. It's interesting, too, because he, people say it's not funny if you have to explain the joke. He proves that completely wrong. Completely wrong. And you've got to hear this about Caitlin Jenner when we come back. Glenn Beck, Mercury.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Shiver hashtag meetumbers. The debate is raging on this morning as, as it has been announced that Disney, is finally, finally doing something about the oppressive audio animatronic pirates that have been in their ploy, employ for 51 years now, and they have done nothing, nothing to stop the objectification and sale of robotic women by other robotic pirates. Because it is very, very dangerous for little girls to see that kind of treatment of, women by robotic pirates. They're very influenced by media, Glenn.

Well, no, not movies or Cosmo, you know, or games or anything like that. Just robotic pirates on a boat ride. Hugely influential on people, a little girl's lives. You can't just show them that kind of stuff, you know. Have them at home where it's safe with Cosmo and television and, you know, porn, you know, or, you know, pregnant and on MTV. You know, let's have some wholesome,

you know, positive stereo role models in their, in their life. Not these, not these, not these strangely white men pirates. Uh, because,

but anyway, uh, you know, I, I digress. Uh, I think we all are, I think we're all on the same page about stopping the,

not the pillaging, but the rape that is happening. Well, not the rape, but the sale of these, women, the perpetual sale of these women. They never are actually married to these pirates. They're forced

to live just the auction block over and over and over again every two and a half minutes. And I think we can all agree. That's got to stop. It's got to stop. Forget about actual slavery. Okay?

Forget about it. In fact, don't look at it. No. Don't look at the yes. Do not look at actual slavery that is happening to women and children all around the world in the Middle East forever. I mean, that's just hashtag that. If you have to look at it, just hashtag. But don't do anything about it.

Okay. We've got to organize. And thank goodness we didn't have to because Disney is a caring company. But we have to organize and stop any audio animatronic perpetual auction of women. Of the three kinds of slavery that most people discuss. Number one, obviously robotic slavery. Yeah. Well, you should always react terribly.

to that. And you should always really make sure, act as if it's a current issue, the slavery in the United States of America. That is a couple, a couple centuries ago. But you know what? You should not react to it all. The current slavery going on right now that's bigger than any of the slavery that went on hundreds of years ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. Shut up. I don't want to hear of that. Listen, I have to tell you, if I had a dollar for every study that has been produced in the last 51 years that showed the harmful effects

that that girls have had being exposed to that horror in Disneyland well I'd have well I'd have less than a dollar today and I think we need to think about that probably should

well that requires us to think so let's just feel about something else I want to be offended tell me how I can be offended all right I'm going to help you okay let's all be pissed at Ricky Jervais. Let's just be pissed at him, all right? Do not laugh.

Do not consider this a joke because it is not a joke. Ricky Jervase has done a new Netflix special and it's called, I think just humanity. It's really funny. But I warn you, you're going to be offended, especially if you're Bill Cosby. And he's talking about jokes that he was considered. considering telling about Bill Cosby. And about three days before this last one, right, just to wind Jane up, I said, I got a good intro.

She went, what, I said, um, uh, Bill Cosby would make our next present asleep on the couch. Please welcome Helen Mirren. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. She went, you're not going to do it. I said, no, no, I'm not going to do that. Next day I got her again. I said, is this too much then? I said, not even Bill Cosby carries enough tranquilizer.

to bring down this next magnificent beast. Please welcome, Melissa McCarthy. I didn't do it. I would never, I'd never tell a joke like that. It's horrible. I was just doing it to annoy Jane. I'd never, I'd never even. Okay, so, so again, his point is,

you have to understand a joke. And so he tells a joke that he did do on stage that everybody got upset about. Here it is. And the big controversy last time I did it was a Caitlin Jenner joke, right? Oh, outrage on Twitter the next day. And by outrage, I mean a couple of people going,

it was transphobic. It wasn't transphobic in the slightest. It was a joke about a trans person, but the joke had nothing to do with that aspect of her existence. And that's the other thing about offence. People get offended when they mistake the subject of a joke with the actual target, and they're not necessarily the same. I'll tell you the joke.

You make your own minds up, right? So, it's live, so they go, and now your host for the 68th annual Golden Globe Awards, please welcome Ricky Jumais. They're going on, and they're all clapping all the actors and looking up smiling at me nervously. It's brilliant, right? So I just go, relax, I'm going to be nice tonight.

I've changed. Not as much as Bruce Jenner. Now Caitlin Jenner, of course. And what a year she's had became a role model for trans people everywhere, bravely breaking down barriers and destroying stereotypes. She didn't do a lot for women drivers. I mean, you know, again, that's not a joke about whether she's trans or not.

That's a joke about her running over someone and killing them. Right. Do we have another part of that or did we leave it alone? Because he gets dicey. Yeah, because he says in this, He's like, let's remember that the joke here is about a celebrity that killed a person and then went home and put a dress on. I mean, that's his joke. And it's, you know, it had nothing to do with him or her being transgendered and when that happened.

And he explains how do we even talk to each other? If I can't, because you're not supposed to, what did he call it? name, date them, I can't remember what it was, but you can't, you no longer can even say that they used to be a man. You can not say that. That is offensive to people like Caitlin Jenner, that you can't, and he's like, how can I possibly, he's like, we all saw him at one point. He was a pole vaulter. That was him.

He made the choice and made the change. But now we have to pretend that his life didn't happen as a him now that he's a her. That's insane. Yeah. And I don't even think actually Caitlin Jenner is offended by that. I don't think so either. It's the people who are arguing on Caitlin Jenner's behalf. Yeah.

You know, they're allowed to get outraged on her behalf. And that's the thing. We have to stop worrying about, you know, there was a story came out a couple of days ago that Facebook, interaction is down 23% now why is that happening what's the common reason for that that all the experts are

you know all the TV people are saying I don't know I mean okay there's a no I haven't been following it no well the theory of the algorithm changing yeah okay so the algorithm is changed and they're saying you know that you know that's just changing that's just changing people's participation well

is it it might be it might be the algorithm change changes a lot of stuff however is it possible that any part of that 23% is people just saying i don't want to be on this anymore i'm not going to react to it anymore i'm not going to i'm just not going to answer all of this i'm not going to get into it i might post my things for my family or as i post things that i'm interested in but I don't I don't interact like I used to because it's just vile. It's just vile. I don't interact with Twitter. I might tweet some stuff out, but I don't necessarily interact with it.

Occasionally, if I'm in a mood. If I'm like, you know what? I really need to get some hostility out. Right. But that's what everyone's doing all the time, which is why it's not fun. Correct. No, I think that's true. I think it's a, at least I'd like to believe it's true.

How about that instead? Let me rework it to. I'd like to believe it's true. Because I think there is a thing going on where, you know, like I grew up, you know, product of the 80s, generally speaking. You know, times have been easy. My life's been easy. I mean, I look back at it and, you know, others, we look at history all the time. There have been eras of this freaking society that have sucked.

Oh, my God. I mean, really hard to live, hard to survive, hard to get through the day. Terrible things happening. there have been eras of this country and certainly around the globe and still are that are really like challenging to your daily existence and your entire life was difficult. I feel like there's that there's some human need to find that conflict to find that. Can we but can we can we calm down on it a bit though? I don't need it.

Most kids have shoes now. Yeah. That's what I mean. Most kids have, you know, I saw something. What was it? I was watching some documentary, and it was on America and the West in 1890, I think. Oh my gosh, the abject poverty and the way people were treating each other and life was so expendable. And it was, it was, it was, you were cold, you were wet, you were hungry, life was brutal, then you died.

Oh my God. I mean, we have Stephen Pinker coming on, I think, next week. He's an author. It's great. One of his previous books was called Angels of Our Better Nature. Yeah. And it's a great book. You got to get past the... He's not a big fan of religions. In fact, he's like on the issues. He needs some therapy on the religion thing. But he's describing the eras that we've had before these. And they're so impossibly dark that violence was a real part of everyone's life on a daily basis. And yes, look, we're talking about what happened in Florida. And is that a part of our life? Yes. However, the violence rates are so

much lower and the idea that something like this could happen. It's much more of an outlier than it is. It kind of goes to this. If I was living in other parts of the world, if I was living in Africa, Pirates of the Caribbean would not be funny because they're really. real and they come and they rape you and they kill all of your family. So it's not funny. You're not going to find in Yemen, you know, Somalia. Yeah, Somalia, a new Disney theme park where, look, we've got pirates of Somalia. I would be selling my Disney stock right away if they made that decision.

It's not happening. Right. Okay. Because it's real. We have gotten to a point to where that stuff isn't real anymore. That's how much progress we've made. it's not real. That's great.

Right. And I feel like we tend to substitute that human, you know, moment of where the hell's my next meal coming from. Oh my God, I'm going to get stabbed tomorrow. And we just try to find it in this like online outrage cycle. I don't know if we. I don't do it. I don't know if we try to find it or it's just because you're not trying to find it when when you are now, think of this. you know, Federal Express, you know, couldn't get funding because you didn't need it tomorrow.

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no contracts. Simplysafebeck.com. Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn Beck. We have an interview with Larry Cudlow tonight at 5 o'clock. You don't want to miss. Now, Larry is, I mean, I think this is a great exchange. There's some upgrades that I think are happening in the Trump administration, going from Cone to Cudlow. I'll take that trade any day of the week.

Yeah, especially after, you know, seemingly the reason Cohn was leaving was because of tariffs. I mean, I could give you the Ob- Give me the line. This is what, a few days ago. Yeah. When we imposed sanctions on the U.S. enemies like North Korea, Russia, and Iran, we want them to feel the economic pain of being deprived of imports.

But now we are imposing sanctions on our own country, putting up tariffs supposedly to make Americans more prosperous. If there ever was a crisis of logic, this is it. That's from Larry Cutlow. from March 3rd, 2018. It is what, March 13th today? He had 15th. He said that he got a phone call.

He expected the president to be reaming him. And instead, he said, I talked to him for 10 minutes. He explained what he was doing. And I'm in. I'm fully in. Yeah, Cone to Cudlow is a great move. That's a great move. That's an upgrade. Great move.

So we'll... And I think Tillerson to Pompeo is an upgrade. It is. H.R. McMaster to John Bolton is a good move, but it's starting to get a little scary on the guys who they get it. They absolutely get it. But I want to make sure that we... And that one hasn't happened.

Yeah, we're not moving towards war. We'll have more on this in coming up. Glenn, back. Mercury. Truth. Okay, I'm going to tell you, you know, a story that you might have read on social media, and then I'm going to tell you the truth about it. Okay?

So if you read it on social media, here's what you heard. this week a polite, slightly awkward 19-year-old from Oklahoma, graced our television sets. Millions of homes were cheering for him. He had his acoustic guitar in hand. His name is Benjamin Glaze. He was ready to show the American Idol judges that he could do it. He could do it.

What he could do with his talent would amaze America. But before he could even start his song, one of the judges asked him a personal question. It was country singer Luke Bryan, Asked Ben if he'd ever kissed a girl and Ben's explained innocently enough Well gosh Mr. Brian, no, I've never been in a relationship and I can't kiss a girl without being in a relationship And then Katie Perry The most high profile judge on this season of American Idol immediately asked Ben to approach the judge's table

She stuck her face toward him and teasingly requested one on the cheek well everybody could tell that Ben was embarrassed. But what can you do? It's television. Katie Perry asked you to kiss her on the cheek. National television. He didn't want to be impolite. So he begrudgingly gave her a peck. But Katie wasn't satisfied that animal. So she asked for another.

But this time, Katie tricked the lanky. Some might call him just sweetly naive teenager and kissed him on the mouth. She raised her arms in victim. and everyone laughed. Ben laughed too in a feeble effort to play along. Ben later told the New York Times that he wanted to save that kiss for his first relationship. He said, I know a lot of guys would say, heck yeah, but I was raised in a conservative family. And I was uncomfortable immediately.

I wanted that first kiss to be special. What a beautiful message from an unexpected place, but Hollywood just won't stop. So now that's the story that I read online. And then I went back because I thought, how is Disney? Disney of all people? ABC Disney doing this in the hashtag me too world. They're now having this happen. Wait, how is that working?

How about he didn't want to kiss? And then the video started. And I watched. Okay. All right. Before you get outraged, this is a complete, a complete and total stunt.

He may never have kissed a girl. He may be that gosh darn kind of guy. But this was totally set up. You can see it from the get-go in the video. It is absolutely scripted. And it's more fake than the fake pirate auction of women in Pirates of the Caribbean.

It just is. And you know what, Disney? We're tired of being played for, you know, we're tired of being the rube. We're tired of being, you know, look down on and mocked and just treat it like we're stupid. We're not that stupid.

In a time in the world when there are actual things that are really frightening that are going on, in a time of the world where we are being taught that there is no objective reality, no truth, no objective morals at all, the American people are starving starving for something that is true and authentic and real. Here's an idea.

Why doesn't somebody in Hollywood or in the media actually start to give us that? It's Thursday, March 15th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. We're thrilled to have in the studio with us. Joel Rosenberg, friend of the program for many, many years. How are you doing, Joel? I'm doing well. Good to see you, Glenn. Good to see you.

Now, Joel, you are... Speaking of truthful, we're going right to a novelist. Yes. We need truth. But you know what? Explain who you used to be before you were a novelist. Well, I'm a failed political consultant. Everyone I worked for lost in Washington helped Steve Forbes lose two presidential campaigns.

Was on Bibi Netanyahu's comeback campaign in 2000. It took him nine more years to come back. But anyway... So you've been around on the losing team. That's true. So to give you some credibility, you have done. that. Okay. I tried. But you're a guy who has passionately cared about the issues and you've been around, you know, the people in the know, seen the things, but from being around some of those

people. That's true. That's true. I learn a lot from them. Yeah. May not have benefited from me, but I benefited from them a lot. Correct. And so you've been studying mainly the Middle East, people would say, I think, people would say, you know, he's mainly a guy who writes about the Middle East and is really studied that. I think I know you better that you would include Russia in all of your studies of the Middle East because of the Gog and Magog connection. If I'm not mistaken. Well, certainly there's a prophetic angle to Russia and something I've been fascinated with. Russia has had a hand in meddling and causing this destabilization in the Middle East for the last century. So if you're going to be interested in the Middle East,

I live in Jerusalem, a U.S. Israeli citizen. By the way, that means I get to vote twice. It's like living in Chicago, so that's nice. But yeah, Russia is going to be a player anywhere, but particularly in the Middle East. But also my family, Glenn, on my father's side, is Jewish, Gentile on my mom's side. I'm an evangelical. But my dad's side were Orthodox Jews that escaped out of Russia under Tsar Nicholas II. So part in our heritage, our history, our DNA, we have always had a deep concern about evil rising in Russia and what it can do when the world doesn't see it coming.

So your book, it's called The Kremlin conspiracy, and I have to tell you, I know you started, how long ago do you start writing this year and a half to? I started writing it two years ago, researching a little bit before, yeah. Okay, so two years ago you started writing it. it is as if you wrote it literally this week. I mean, it's amazing. We talk about my novels. From the time you and I first met on CNN, Ben Fox, now here, you've been saying, well, these are like ripped from tomorrow's headlines and like today's headlines now.

Yeah. Yeah. This one is, this one is remarkable. Quickly explain the premise of the novel. And then I'm going to kind of get into the nuts and bolts of what's really happening and how it plays out in the book. So in the Kremlin conspiracy, it's the first political series, story of a new series. Alexander Luganoff is the czar, the dictator rising in Russia. He's not Putin, but let's call him Putin-esque.

Well, let's say it's one of those movies where they make it an extra bold type that says, this is fictional characters, but you look at it and you're like, yeah, okay, yes, probably, but there's a lot of Putin. There's a lot of Putin. Yeah, that's true. So, and I'll explain why in a moment. All right, so you got Luganoff. He's rising in Russia.

We see him from two different angles. His son-in-law, Oleg Kraskin, actually he marries into the family early in the book, and now he's not only a family member in this godfather-like family, but he is hired as a senior aide to Lugano. So we have inside access, in a sense, into the Kremlin, inter-Serkers.

through the eyes of this young lawyer who's a bit young, naive. He's sharp, but he's not, he doesn't understand what he's getting himself into. We're toggling back and forth through the Kremlin conspiracy with an American, Marcus Riker, who after 9-11 joins the Marines, gets sent to Afghanistan, ends up joining the United States Secret Service. And through a series of tragedies I won't talk about, I don't want to give too much away, he finds himself in Moscow and Oleg and Marcus' lives converge

at the most dangerous moment in U.S. Russian relations. Big picture, what's happening with Luganoff is he's got a new president in Washington not well-versed in foreign and national security policy. The president's eyes are on North Korea and Iran, understandably so. But Luganoff decides to take a gamble.

while the world is focused on Asia and the Middle East, he decides to go grab one, two, or all three of the Baltic states, the NATO allies right on the border of Russia, Estonia, Lafayette, Lithuania. He figures with 100,000 troops, a lightning fast strike, he could grab one, two, or maybe all three in 96 hours. Now, you say, that's insane. Why would a Russian leader, even in fiction, go grab a NATO ally that's covered and protected by Article 5, the mutual defense pact, which says if one country's attacked and NATO, everybody comes to its defense. I know the answer. I think I know the answer. Even before I read the book, I can tell you the answer. Nobody wants nuclear war with Russia. Right. Right. And so Lugano's gamble is nobody's going to stop me. If I actually grab it and hold even one of them, is the United States of America, is NATO going to actually go to even conventional war with me and are they going to risk nuclear war with Russia over a country most Americans cannot find on a map.

And his theory is no. And he thinks if the answer really is no, if NATO does not defend NATO, that's the end of NATO. In 96 hours, I can collapse the entire Western alliance because they won't do it. That's the theory of the novel. So, Remlin conspiracy. So now let me tell you reality.

So Putin, who has nothing to do with this book, has been trying to collapse. I haven't been poisoned yet. Yeah, I know. That's a starter. I know. We're just getting started. Has said that he is wanting to collapse the NATO alliance and wants to collapse the Western world. And has just last week poisoned with a nerve gas that is clearly from Russia.

It's only made in Russia. It's only kept in Russia. 21 people who are going to be vegetables for the rest of their life if they live. There is no cure from this nerve agent. It is a nasty, nasty nerve agent. He's called on the carpet. Teresa May says, well, you better answer. There's going to be, you know, something that's going to happen.

She pulls out, Putin mocks her. The foreign ministry mocks it. The London embassy, the Russian embassy, issues joke photos in response. Take, does not take it seriously at all. It's almost as if Putin is giving us one real push to see will they actually do anything. And the answer is no, we won't. Well, they're not going to the World Cup. So that's, I mean, the royal family is. Yeah. But, you know, yeah. Yeah. But they didn't say that. Right. The team might go. The team might go. The team might go. But the royal family will not go. Right. The, look, the way, uh, NATO needs to handle this,

is finally getting serious with sanctions. You have to target specific individuals in the Kremlin and you have to go after the money. This is not something you would go to war over, but it's definitely something you've got to hit them where they count. And, you know, one of the things I do in this book, one of the things that fiction can do is take people outside of the day-to-day tactical headlines

and sort of separate out whatever you feel about a specific, leader at a specific moment. So by making this fiction, by not calling him Putin, by creating him Putin-esque with a lot of details, but then getting to play with it a bit, extrapolate. It allows you to cause people to lose themselves in reality for a moment

and go into this fictional world. And in this world, Luganov is a czar. Now, my family is physically escaped from the czar, Nicholas II. But what are the czar? ours. This is, you know, Putin is not a communist. He's not an ideologue in the communist pure sense. We may want to talk about where he's coming from ideologically. But part of it is he's a monarchist.

He believes that Russia has been humiliated by the collapse of the Soviet Union and that they need to rebuild the glory of Mother Russia. This is deep in his psyche. So Luganoff is this person. He's a rising czar, which means he wants to expand the borders. doesn't mean he's going to grab and control every country, but he wants to, he wants to knuckle them under his, his thumb. He's also a godfather. He is a mafia boss, but he's not sunny Corleone. He's not a rash, hot-headed, impulsive thug. He is Michael Corleone. He's a cold, calculated killer. So we're going to take from the fiction and see what we're supposed to learn on what we can do to stop the actual Michael Corleone. who is currently in the Kremlin when we come back. The book is The Kremlin Conspiracy.

Joel C. Rosenberg is with us, and we have more on a very timely book coming up in just a minute. With volatility in the stock market, wild swings in Bitcoin, the constant turmoil in Washington, gold has come off its best year since 2010. Gold is really an insurance policy. I don't buy gold as an investment. Gold is a safe haven.

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But it really is dealing exactly with much of what we're dealing with right now with Russia. And you can try to understand the figures and how everybody is being played. And what a great chess player, Putin is. he is he's many moves ahead i think of of all of us is there anybody joel out there that you think is like that really gets Putin besides i think probably b bnett and yahoo uh no i mean not not in in the position of a president or prime minister there's a lot of you know a church you get him but no there's no and uh no we've got a lot of churchills who are out of office or they're back Benchers who are seeing him. I mean, the guy who gets him best, Gary Kasparov, Bill Browder,

guys who've been directly threatened by him, but have taken him on face to face. But they are working on a campaign that I think they are the Churchill's of our time. Actually, those two men. And I think their tribe is beginning to increase. In other words, they are, you know, what I'm doing is taking a different route. They are going straight policy, speeches, because they're experts on these things. And they know Putin face-to-face. But one of the things that has to happen is sometimes you have to drive things out of Washington, out of Brussels, out of the political sphere, and into the popular culture so that it helps people understand evil that's rising.

Almost as long as I've known you, we've talked about the central theme to all of my novels, even though they all have different characters, different flavors. But the theme is this, to misunderstand the nature and threat of evil is to risk getting blindsided by it. We were blindsided at 9-11. We were blindsided at Pearl Harbor. We were blindsided by the rise of Hitler and the Second World War and the Holocaust. We shouldn't have been. We all look back and go, there's a lot of data, but we weren't paying attention to it because we didn't understand the nature and threat of evil. And a lot of Western society pooh-poo's discounts the concept that evil even exists. So it's hard to see it if you don't even believe

there's also a something in human nature that makes us want to say no that's not going to happen that's not going to happen you know because we can't imagine it right and in this particular case we don't know what to do because none of us want nuclear war we don't want a war with russia this is an example where you know okay so the political thriller the kremlin conspiracy lays out one of the worst case scenarios literally in 96 hours a russian leader could collapse the NATO alliance. I think that's, when I started working on it two years ago, I thought, all right, well, that's a little out there, but it's a good novel.

But now it could happen next week. Yeah. But here's the one way we could stop it. President Trump and NATO could significantly scale up the deterrent forces in the Baltics to create a speed bump high enough that whatever temptation is there is mitigated and Putin backs off, looks for another victim. And he will say, if we do that, he will say, look at the aggression of the West. So what?

I mean, it's better than them being invaded. Does anybody, does anybody have the courage to do that? And I mean, when I say that, I mean the American people. I mean, I want to go through, I want to go through some stats that, you know, you've, you've looked at when you were writing this book about how America views Putin, views Russia. And I'm not sure we're, I'm not sure we're all on the same page about him. We'll get to get to that here in just a second. second. The name of the book is the Kremlin

conspiracy by Joel Rosenberg. He is, I don't know, how many books have you written? This is the 13th political thriller. And they are all riveting. And as he said earlier, always like ripped from tomorrow's headlines.

This one literally could be, I mean, it's like he wrote it last night. It really is. The Kremlin conspiracy, available bookstores. Now, back in just a second. Glenn Beck Mercury is the Glenn Beck program

So Joel Rosenberg is with us He's written a book called the Kremlin Conspiracy And Joel I think I think the Kremlin has done a brilliant job Brilliant job Of making Russia And Putin in America All about Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump

And so the Clinton people when you're talking about, you know, was there something funny going on with, with Gazprom? Yeah, there was. I'm sorry. But the uranium one, that was a,

that's a problem. That's a problem. I don't know if she was involved, but there's a mountain of evidence that was held back that even Congress couldn't see that shows that they were in bribing and doing all kinds of stuff for people all around Washington on both sides.

here with the election. People are making it all about Donald Trump. I haven't seen the evidence that there's collusion. There are weird things, but he's putting people in place that are not, Pompeo is not a fan of Russia. No, I mean, no,

that's the thing. If the president, the president Trump were criminally colluding with Putin, you would not put Jim Mattis at the defense, a guy with a supreme allied commander of NATO. Like, this is a guy, who gets Russia is serious about the NATO alliance. Mike Pompeo at CIA, I've known him for years.

He's a fan of my books. It's not the why I'm a fan of him, but he's got good sense. He's Mike Pence at obviously the VP, Nikki Haley. These are not pushovers on Putin. So, moreover, to President Trump's credit, he is driving up U.S. defense spending when defense was hollowed out under Obama. He is pushing NATO to spend much more money for themselves on their own defense, and they're starting to do it. He's arming Ukraine with lethal weapons. President Obama never did it. He's, he, his U.S. Special Forces took out a team of Russian mercenaries trying to give us a bloody nose in Syria and kick their tails.

Yeah. That was fantastic. Listen, so none of these are soft on Putin policies. But I have to say my concern is that President Trump is radio silent on President Putin. No matter what Putin does that's evil, bad, nefarious, aggressive, President Trump doesn't seem to have the desire, the willingness to call him out on it. And President Trump isn't radio silent on anybody that he doesn't like. I'm guessing you've taken a few.

Just spitballing here. Jerusalem now, so I'm not totally up to speed. But, you know, he, look, the president is tougher on Jeff Sessions. Then he is on the worst dictator on the planet. Yeah. That doesn't mean he's criminally corrupt, but it doesn't mean that's weird. Yeah. And he, look, Vladimir, you should say, here's the, but here's the problem.

If we go to, if we look at the public, I'm not sure because I think in, in many ways, Putin and then just the political machine. has made this about Hillary Clinton didn't do anything wrong. Donald Trump didn't do anything wrong. And so we're not actually talking about who did do something wrong. And that's Vladimir Putin in Russia. Right. Two thoughts, though, on that.

One, this is the responsibility of the President of the United States to define the terms of the debate. And this is why radio silence is not just bad. It's actually harmful because you can define. Look, contrast what President Trump is doing with Russia, which is good policy. but no defining of the debate. Compare it with his North Korea policy. He defines Kim Jong-un as Rocket Man. He sends B2 bombers over the peninsula.

He sends Pence to go to the DMZ. He sends Mattis. He sends aircraft carrier task force. And we don't know where it will go, but it has gotten North Korea's attention because it's the strategic pressure, this maximum pressure. We are not getting maximum pressure.

pressure on Russia and we need to. So that's one point. The president needs to do it. The second point is to keep in mind what Vladimir Lenin used to say. He would say probe with bayonets. If you find mush, push. If you find steel, stop. Under Obama, Vladimir Putin found mush and he kept pushing and nobody stopped him. What we need President Trump to do, do is to show steal. He is showing it in policy, although there's a few other things we can talk about that. I think he should be doing. But he is not defining the terms of the debate, even at a moment this week where NATO is starting to say, and they're not sure what to do, but they, you know, we go back to this point about Russian nerve gas, military grade nerve agents, killing, poisoning

people in Great Britain. This is, this is the, this, we've never seen this happen. since World War II. So this is a time when the President of the United States stands with your British allies, your NATO allies, and speaks out and begins to define the terms. Now, one last thought on that. This is a very good development of the idea of Mike Pompeo moving over to state. I think it was a great move. It is. One, because Tillerson is an honorable man, didn't understand the job and didn't really know the president. So you never believe that he was really speaking for the president. Moreover, he had a personal friendship with Vladimir Putin. He got the highest civilian honor that you could possibly get from Vladimir Putin.

That did not give me a sense that this guy had steel when it came to Putin. Would you ever take a? No. Would I? Now, maybe if I was running ExxonMobil, but I'm not. Pompeo gets Russia and Iran and North Korea, but also there's the key. Mike Pompeo, for all his skill sets, he did not have the legal ability at CIA to shape policy. CIA directors are not allowed to say, and therefore you should, Mr.

President. Can't do it. It's only analysis and data, which is, that's the right thing. At state, he can craft a robust, comprehensive Russia policy, help the president, if the president is willing to be helped in that direction. But it's time. Let me go through, let me go through some of the stats. with the Russian invasion of Georgia, Ukraine, in recent years, Russian forces fighting in Syria to protect the regime of Assad, Russia continuing to sell arms and nuclear technology to Iran, Russia hacking the U.S. computer networks and attempts to interfere in American elections. Would you agree or disagree with this sentence?

I have come to believe that Vladimir Putin and the government of Russia pose a clear and present danger to national security in the United States, NATO allies, Europe and our Middle East allies, such as Israel. 72% believe that's true. 60% say they worry about Putin now planning another military attack, perhaps an invasion of a small NATO country or Middle Eastern country, because he thinks the international community isn't serious about stopping him. And 51%, 51.9, are not convinced the president understands Russia or Putin and must do more. Let's tell you. Well, we commissioned this poll for the release of the criminal conspiracy last week.

And we did that from a highly respected pollster, John McLaughlin. I've known him for 25 years. John has also been one of the president's pollsters. And I said, okay, this is going to be important because if the president's going to, I want to know what Americans really think. I want it to be fair. I want to be scientifically accurate. But it also has to be done by somebody who the president wouldn't listen to. Like these are real numbers.

They're not, you know, some left. Disillusion, you know, right, exactly. So, now I briefed the White House staff on these numbers and congressional leaders on these numbers, and it's important for these numbers to get out. Because as we head into the 2018 elections, if three out of four Americans think that Putin is a clear and present danger, but 52% don't think the president fully understands that threat or is doing all that he can, that's a real problem. Because what do Americans agree? on three out of four Americans on anything these days. Now, I'm not saying that that means that it's their front and center issue. But I think instinctually, they get this issue,

but they want to see leadership. And it's actually kind of crazy to hear Democrats being able to attack a Republican president for being soft on Vladimir Putin. But at this point, at least in terms of rhetoric, that charge holds.

So we're talking to Joel Rosenberg, the Kremlin Conspirators. What should... Novel. Just to be clear, I'm not actually involved in a Kremlin conspiracy. For the record,

I would like... And in fact, when I was in Vice President Pence's office a few months ago, and he said, what's your next novel about? I said, well, I don't really want to mention it

in the West Wing. He said, why? What are you talking about? It has nothing to do with what's going on here. It has what... And Pence pressed me. What's the title?

I said, uh, sir, it's the Kremlin conspiracy. I've known Mike Pence for a long time. I've never seen him laugh quite as hard as I have. He did want to hear the name with the novel. So the Kremlin conspiracy, the novel, can you give us what you think we should be doing at this time with Theresa May?

What should we be doing? How can we show steel without, you know, pushing us closer to the edge of a war with Russia? Yeah. If I were advising the President of the United States, I would advise him to immediately call her, invite her to Washington. I would do a joint statement together. I might not even just ask her. I would ask the head of NATO to come. Or I'd get on a plane I'd go to London or Brussels.

I would start moving. I would not even announce it. I would just start moving U.S. forces, tanks, into the Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. The president is going to have a summit on April 3rd with the three presidents of the Baltic state. They are terrified. The Lithuanian ambassador,

actually heard about the book and invited me to breakfast. I didn't know him to talk about these things, to get a copy and talk about what can be done. And then I would start imposing the very sanctions that Congress overwhelmingly passed last year, and President Trump has not yet imposed. That is one thing. Only two senators voted against it. Over 400 congressmen voted for it. He's got the legal authority.

It's time. Move. You've got all the setup. You've given Putin all the space. If he wanted to change, he would have changed by now. Start to hit Putin where they care about, which is targeted sanctions on individuals. Use the Magnitsky Act, the act that specifically goes after people that are engaged in criminal activity. You don't have to, there's a way to ramp this thing up.

You don't want to overreach, but you've got to start protecting our allies and hitting specific Putin cronies. Do you believe that, I mean, Putin's election is on Sunday. Yes, I'm not holding my breath. I don't think it'll be a Pennsylvania 18th. I don't think so. I'm just spitball here. Right, right, right. But, you know, some of this, I think, is happening because of his election on Sunday.

Do you agree with that or not? I don't. And the reason I don't is because when your dictator, you know, I mean, yeah, he'd love to win with 95. The danger is if he thinks he wins with 60, that would tell you that 40% of the country is voting for somebody. They don't care who it is, just not him. I think that's a risk to him. But since you're not really worried as Vladimir Putin over if you're going to win or not, what are you doing?

I think we would be misreading him, saber-rattling, as just being political. I think he means it. I think he is a thug who's looking for another country to take. So 30 to 45 seconds. Do you see war as a real possibility with Russia? If we show weakness. I mean, if we can't show steel with a country that's actually a, weak country. They have nuclear weapons, but this guy is a bully and we're the world's superpower. We've

got NATO. We just need to show steel. This is the darkest hour with Winston Churchill under Neville Chamberlain. Not good. With Winston Churchill and FDR kicking in, there's a lot we can do to stop evil in this world, but the West gets blindsided when we don't pay attention and we don't stand up for ourselves. Thanks, Joel. Appreciate it. The book is The Kremlin Conspiracy from Joel Rosenberg. You can get him on Twitter at Joel C. Rosenberg or go to his website, Joel Rosenberg.com. You've heard me talk for a while now about blinds.com. It's for a couple of reasons.

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Here's Ben Shapiro about how the left and the media were using these kids in the walkout yesterday. The media has put forward this message, and they've been doing this for years, but it's really, I think, accelerated in the last few months and particularly in the last few weeks. Then putting forward this message that if you disagree with them on gun control, then this means you don't care enough about the kids. And now they are activating these kids and putting them out on the front lines and putting them in photo ops so that they, can essentially use them as political human shields. Now, listen, the kids can say whatever they want. That's their prerogative, obviously. Yeah.

But it is the media that are choosing to elevate these kids as moral authorities, even though tragedy and age don't confer any sort of expertise on a given issue. It's a good point. And also, by the way, age is the opposite. The closer you are to birth, usually the less information you have. That's kind of the way it works. No, I've had serious conferences with infants. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. When I have my yearly toddler conference, it is, I got to get them all juice box. They demand to have in juicy juice. Okay. It's really good. But they sit around and some of the ideas that come out of these toddlers, I mean, out of the mouth of babes, you've never heard that? I have heard that.

I didn't know it really meant. Gun policy. Oh, you ageist. The nuances of the Second Amendment debate out of the mouths of babes. That's what we expect from them all the time. Isn't that phrase, you're supposed to design someone saying something inappropriate and ill-informed of all the circumstances? It really kind of does apply to this. I mean, you know, look, as he said, you say whatever you want, but stop treating them as if they have some insight on the debate here.

They don't. They were the victims of something terrible that doesn't make you an expert. Glenn, back. Mercury. Truth. So who is the next contestant on Survivor Island? The White House has selected Larry Cudlow. This is a great upgrade.

Larry becomes the top economic advisor for Donald Trump as director of the National Economic Council. He replaces Gary Cohn, who decided to step down specifically because he didn't agree with Trump's new tariff policy. So now, I mean, if that's true, why would you go with Larry Cudlow? Because Cudlow is lock, cocked, and ready to go, you know, and he's going to be laying down those serious tariffs? Not Larry Cudlow. Let me just play a little bit of audio of what Larry Cudlow thinks about the new trade policies in his own words two weeks ago. Listen. Oh, I won't unwind it, but it's a bad omen.

You know, he's so good on taxes. He's so good on tax cuts. He's so good on deregulation, infrastructure. I haven't liked him on immigration. He's never been good on trade. Okay, so you fire a guy, now this is what way to have you to believe, you'd fire a guy who stood up against your tariffs because you're just going to go crazy and you're going to replace him with a guy who says, quote, it's a bad omen, and the president is always bad on trade.

Why do I have the feeling that either this is the shortest stay on Survivor Island, or maybe perhaps there's something else going on? And perhaps, and I haven't believed this before, but perhaps the... The president is sly like a fox. According to Cudlow, he was playing tennis. And he had just come out and said those things on CNBC and much more. And so he was playing tennis. And somebody brought him the phone. It was probably one that was still wired.

Sir, excuse me. Lawrence, the president would like to speak to you on the telephone. So he picks up the phone and he's expecting Trump to yell at him. He said he thought he was going to, you know, brawl with the president over his criticism of the harsh tariffs. In actuality, Cudlow said

Trump instead spent the entire call explaining his strategy. And by the end of the call, Cudlow said, I'm in. Forty-eight hours later, Trump officially offered him the job, and he said, I accepted immediately. So now, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Either Trump is some sort of sort of voodoo magician, which tonight on Anderson Cooper is Donald Trump a voodoo magician. And he can cast these agreeability spells on Cudlow over the phone. Or there's something we don't know here. Because the president's new economic advisor is clearly not a fan of tariffs or the way Trump views trade in general, but he is comfortable and confident in joining the administration. Tonight at 5 o'clock on the blaze.com slash TV, we have a conversation with Larry Cudlow. You need to hear who he is.

This is a serious upgrade. We do know this. Ever since the tariff policy was announced, the rhetoric has shifted from the idea of blanket tariffs to who's going to be excluded. So far Mexico and Canada have already been excluded. Canada is our number one supplier of steel. Mexico is number four. So that's 25% of the steel imports, which overshadows both Brazil and South Korea combined.

Their number is two and three importers of steel. And they've also been told that various members of the EU may be excluded. The only nation in the top 10 that we import steel from is the EU, from the EU is Germany. Does that mean that Germany is going to be excluded as well? And if so, who is left to put tariff on? It makes you wonder. Did that call between Trump and his new economic advisor actually go a little something like,

Hey, Lawrence, it's Donald. Don't worry about the tariff thing. I'm playing chess. Let's hope that's the case. Otherwise, we'll see you next time. on Survivor. It's Thursday, March 15th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

I have tremendous respect for Larry Cutlow. I mean, he is, he's the man when it comes to free trade. There's a real reason for optimism here. It's a, you know, I, you know, because I'm a big free trade guy, was nervous about cone leaving. Cohn is not exactly where I am on many issues, but he's pretty good on trade, where, you know, the president has indicated he, you know, is a protectionist in many ways. And Cudlow is the exact opposite. I mean, you know, Cudlow, Larry Cudlow, Stephen Moore, and Art Laffer wrote a piece together for National Review on March 3rd of this year.

Stephen Moore did? Stephen Moore. Are you thinking he's not the person? Are you thinking of someone else potentially? No, I'm thinking Stephen Moore is a guy who said just a year ago, look, nationalism is the deal and I don't agree with it, but it's where the people are, so let's go. Well, yeah. I mean, look, I disagree with that comment as well. But I mean, Stephen Moore has a very long record.

That's why it was a shocking comment. Correct. Because he is an incredibly long record of being. I'm glad to see him supportive of free trade. Yeah. Here's a couple things from that article. One of the ironies of trade protectionism is that tariffs and import quotas are what we do to ourselves in times of peace and what foreign nations do to us with blockades to keep imports from entering our country in times of war. Tariffs are really taxes. Since so many of the things American consumers buy today are made of steel or aluminum, a 25% tariff on these commodities may get passed on the consumers.

This is a regressive tax on low-income families. Now, this guy has been elevated to a real position of influence inside the White House. That's a really good thing. Does it, does it, um, do you ever feel like, man, I wish the president would make, would let me like him? You know what I mean? I wish he would just stop tweeting, stop being a punk to everybody, start being the president of the United States so I could show, you know, hey, this is, this is, this is. is the way a leader behaves, you know, and do, stop doing all of the stuff that's meaningless, but hurts the culture.

Because he's so good. I mean, this week, I'm like, or last week, I was like, oh, geez, man, here we go. He's going to do the trade thing. He might do the gun thing. He's reversed himself on the gun thing. And I don't think this is him being talked out of tariffs, strangely. I would be very surprised if it is. Yeah, but I mean, he's got Larry Cuttle.

And if Larry is, I have no reason not to believe him. If Larry is like, look, I talked to him a few minutes. I thought he was going to yell at me. And then he said, oh, no, don't, don't. Here's my strategy. That, wow. Look, Cudlow, you know, was involved in the tax plan from Trump. He's a good free market voice.

And the fact that another free market voice is going to be around the president, who doesn't always have those instincts is a really positive thing. Can you imagine being in the White House and seeing TV that's saying White House bloodbath, possibly as soon as this weekend? I mean, can you imagine what that's like to work in the White House when you know all the televisions are on and everybody's looking and going because you don't know if it's true or not? Yeah, and every one of your enemies in the administration is leaking against you and, you know, you're probably leaking against all your enemies. It's an impossible. I couldn't live like that. No, I wouldn't, and I wouldn't want to.

You know, I think, though, when it comes, a lot of this is, there's some of it that's leaking, but a lot of it is really like, you know, I think Trump likes this. He said he likes the conflict. Oh, he likes conflict and chaos. And he thinks it works well. You know, I tend to believe that if he stopped, you know, when you're talking about tweeting, that doesn't mean you stop tweeting, but I think everyone understands what you're talking about when you say that, which is, you know, the really outlandish sort of stuff.

You know, the attacking people's appearances. And, you know, like all that stuff. I can't imagine. And, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. But is there one Trump supporter that exists today that goes away if he stops, you know, if he stops making fun of, you know, people's facelifts? Like, there's no one who's like, oh, I am no longer on the Trump bandwagon because of that. No.

Because he stopped doing it. I do think there's a group of people that would help him when it comes to approval rating and success and support. If he were to stop the flares, the craziest stuff he does, and pair that back 10, 20%, there's a group of people who would like his policies enough to become supporters. And those people, you know, why not try to bring those in? I don't think you lose any of the other people by not doing it. So why not try to bring those people in the fold?

And then your approval rating instead of it being 37 is 45, and you're right in the normal sort of range of a president and as he maybe goes into that second term. It's still going to be difficult, but... So I want to ask you a tough question. Yes. We're going to take a break. And I want you to answer this question.

Oh, good. You're going to be timed in the break to think about it. Good. Yeah. I want to ask this question. We've asked, we've asked supporters. What could he possibly do that you would finally say, okay, I can't tolerate that in a president, okay?

What would you, what does he have to do before? you say he might be Reagan. He might be one of the better presidents we've had in a long time. It starts with inventing a flux capacitor. I'll get the full answer. Second. More bad news about the data breach from that major credit

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Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn Beck. So I just asked Stu, we were having this conversation off air because, you know, I really want to be fair to the president. And, you know, I don't cut him, you know, the slack when everybody else will cut him slack. But I also want to praise him when he does praiseworthy stuff. And his policies have been really, some of them have been really good. Yeah. The last couple of weeks have been an abomination and just terrified me.

when it comes to, you know, the way the guns were handled. And then he kind of wiggled out of that and tariffs. And it looks like he may be wiggling out of that now as well. Or he may just be using some strategy that I've never seen a president. Here's a nice thing about Donald Trump, why he might be effective. I've always said I've wanted a president with a twitchy eye where the people who are against him and negotiations are like, that guy's crazy. He just might do it. Right.

I always thought, though, that I would be able to understand if he was telling the truth or not. You know what I mean? I don't know where he stands on trade. I don't know where he really stands on guns. I just have to watch his actions. So is there something that, because we've asked, you know, on the cultural issues, he's an abomination on the cultural issues. Barack Obama on the cultural issues was an abomination as well. Just divided us and, you know,

Barack Obama was pitting black versus white and rich versus poor, et cetera, et cetera. And so, you know, that's one side. But on the policy issues, he's been pretty good. He's been better than I expected. Absolutely has exceeded my expectations on that front. And I think he's convinced me of a few things. and whether this is him precisely or his allowance of the structure around him to make these decisions. Like, for example, he's pretty much won me over that he's able to pick good judges.

Right. And that's not, I was not there at all, even after his election. Even after he released his list, I didn't necessarily believe he would do that. And he has. And he hasn't just done it with Gorsuch. I mean, there's been a lot of really good choices. I mean, Willett and Ho and Texas, a lot of, there's, you can go through a nice list of those. You know, he's been good on environmental.

policy, in my opinion, because I come from a, I really hate environmental regulation. I think we're very over-regulated in that area. His naming of Pruitt is good. They're talking about potentially elevating him if Sessions leaves, which I think is generally speaking of positive. He's done a good job there. One thing I have been surprised about a little bit, and I think hasn't come to fruition as much as I kind of thought it would, was boldness of policy. There's boldness of policy. There's boldness of talk. The boldness of policy has been oddly absent. The tax cuts are a good example of that.

Like I said, I'm glad the tax cuts passed. It's good to see that we play lower taxes and, hey, that's great. But that was not a bold plan. It was a trimming. You know, I mean, the bold plan, you can argue on the corporate side, it was pretty bold. Outside of that, you know, it wasn't much of a dramatic tax cut. And that was actually one of the things Larry Cutlow criticized at the tax plan. Should have been more dramatic on the individual side.

You know, if he actually adopts the policies of Larry Kudlow, I'm going to be pretty happy on those policies. He has, you know, not necessarily done those yet. You know. What would it take? Because we always say, what would it take to shake you on our side? What would it take to get you to say, I have to divide him in half? Culturally, I don't know of anything that he could do that would. I mean, he could change.

But, I mean, he doesn't seem like he's, that's part of it. his character of who he is. Correct. But on policies, you know, you have to be able to say, if you're going to be honest, you have to be able to say,

he's pretty good on some of them. Yeah, I listed a few there. I mean, I think you give him credit where he gets it and maybe not where he doesn't. I mean,

you know, the fact that he's launching into tariff talk is is a really bad sign. I mean, year one, if he does tariffs this year, year one will be better

than year two. So he doesn't appear to be headed towards more free market policies. But I mean, if he gets to more free market policies, if he changes some of his outlying, you know, philosophies that I don't appreciate so much, I mean, you could say that he's a he's good on policy. I mean, you know, I don't, he's done some really good things, I think. Better, much, much more than I think either of us would have predicted coming in. And, and to be fair, even people who were calling this show saying, you guys got to vote for Trump, you got to vote for

Trump, even they in their cases to us to vote for Trump. were underselling what he's actually done. So, I mean, it's a big step. You know, he's done some really good things. He's put good people in certain places around him. Yeah, and it's amazing. Some of these have been upgrades as they've changed. Right.

Some of them, I mean, he started out with a really dicey band of snakes around him. And he's cut them out, you know, every step of the way. And every time he is replacing them, he seems to be replacing them with better people. Yeah. And I will say one of the biggest changes. that we've seen in the past year and probably both of our biggest problems with Donald Trump

leading up to the election and even after it was Steve Bannon. And the fact that Steve Bannon is not only gone from the White House, but completely excommunicated is a really positive thing for the White House. And even though Bannon, some of Bannon's policies were okay.

You know, not all of them. But, you know, the fact, if he can move away from that sort of economic nationalism and other associated beliefs around Ben and in that sort of circle, it would be great. But, I mean, you know, he's launching into many of them now. So I wouldn't say I'm optimistic. Is there a path where I would say like, oh, my God, he's a great president on policy? Of course.

There's always a path. There's a path for Barack Obama. In his last year, if he reversed all the things that he did and became a conservative, I would be great. But I don't know. I think Trump is actually on the right road. I mean, if. You know, if he's, this seems to be, he seems to be becoming his own man on things.

Maybe I'm wrong, but he seems to becoming, you know, making this decision to go to North Korea, making the decision to fire our secretary state and, and replace him with Pompeo. seems to be him, which is good. This is the Glenn Beck program. We're just talking. I want to ask Pat the same question I asked Stu here a little while ago. We've asked the audience for a long time. Well, what would it take?

What does Donald Trump have to do to make you go, okay, I can't tolerate that? And I don't know if we've ever gotten an answer, but I wanted to reverse that on us because Larry Cudlow, possibly John Bolton, and Pompeo have been appointed, you know, to the White House staff this week. All three of those are really good. Really good. He's been solid in his appointment suffer as a rule. And this is a conversation with Bolton, right?

And Bolton and Bolton thing hasn't you keep saying that. But it's moving in that direction. Right. Don't know if it's, don't know if it's going to happen. But still, you can't say all of his appointments have been good. Oh, his nomination of the really bad person on, I mean, bad on religious rights. Yes. There was just that.

So let's not forget that. But if people keep the heat on, that's going to be withdrawn, I think. Hopefully. Yeah. I mean, that people called in and wrote to the White House and wrote to the Senate and called your senators. That one was really hard to understand. Yeah. Really hard.

Yeah. So she's the head of the EEOC. If you don't know, call your senator and say you must reject the nomination of the EEOC. Oh, well, no, first, then call, please. If you don't know, call. No. If you don't know, then no. Then call. Look into it first.

Yes, please look into it. Find out how bad she is on religious freedom. Yeah, she's horrible. She believes that sexual freedom trumps religious freedom. Right. You'd have to show me that in the Constitution. And that's a quote, by the way. It's a quote.

Yeah. So anyway, but he hasn't always been good on his not. combinations. Bannon is a good example of that. Flynn is a good example of that. Oh, it's been a lot of bad ones, but he's made a lot of good ones. Yeah, he has. He has. But, but, you know, just at the time where you think, oh, my gosh, this guy could be spiraling into protectionism and everything else. He appoints and, and where is he on Russia? Okay, well, we know now he just put Pompeo in his secretary state and he ain't easy on Russia. Where is he on trade? He just put Larry Cuddler. low in. So what would it be? Like I think if he would have, if they would have repealed Obamacare and they would have opened that up to the free market system. The first year would have been really hard to argue with. At all. At all. At all. Except for culturally. It is still pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. So if he could fully repeal Obamacare,

which they've already removed the mandate. So it's been gutted anyway. But if you totally remove that. If you do what you said you were going to do on immigration and drop this two million people with a past citizenship on DACA, I mean, that's terrible policy. That's Ronald Reagan policy. It doesn't work. Did you see the, the end-culture thing today? She tweeted Trump's Kate Steinley, and I guess an illegal immigrant, DACA recipient, murdered somebody and a year into the presidency and she's like, that's not okay. It's an interesting point.

And Ann Coulter holds the line pretty hard on the immigration stuff. Oh, that's all she cares about. It does seem to be the only issue she cares about. It's why she was so adamant about him in Trump we trust. And now she's starting to turn on him for the same reason. Yeah, she gives the border wall update every day about how they haven't built any of the border wall and everything like that. Well, you and I predicted that a long time ago. It's true.

I will say we would even. our underwear if you would have built 90% of what they promised. It's not going to be anywhere near that. It does. Well, no. He's not even saying he wants to build 90% of it anymore. No, he's not. And now it's more like 30, 40%.

So he'd have to get back, you know, to what he promised on immigration and maybe another deeper tax cut. They're talking about that now. Uh-huh. That's exciting. I mean, you know, I mean, it would be great. I think this is another point of that these special elections should indicate to the Republicans that they may only have control of the House.

for another eight to ten months. Yeah, they're worried about it. You better move. If you want another round of tax cuts, do it right now. They just lost in Pennsylvania, and so they're starting to raise the alarms. And yeah, it's because you guys, you suck. You don't stand for anything.

You don't stand for anything. And every single time you get into trouble, you do the same thing, you moderate. Well, if I want, why would I want a Republican who acts like a Democrat when I can vote for an actual Democrat, if that's what I want? It never makes sense to me. It never makes sense. And they do this every single time.

You need to go back to conservatism. And if they did that, I think they'd be fine. I think they'd win. I think, sure, this is an argument against making mass sort of wholesale changes in the cabinet right now. And that you may very well only have eight to ten months to do anything bold because you're going to, you could lose the house. I mean, there's a legitimate chance that could happen. So if you get, you know, the government operations swallow. up in trying to confirm, and I know it's the Senate, but confirm all the, you know, all of these

different changes of positions, you are going to push the ball down the road even further for good policy changes. And I know they always say, oh, well, you can walk and chew gum at the same time. You can't walk or chew gum ever. There's no, there's no reason for us to believe you can do both. Because I can't, I've never seen you, the gum you paste on your face, it misses your mouth and you fall over every time you try to walk. Let me ask you this. What do you think about Rand as I understand his position. But what do you think if Pompeo, the CIA director, is also snubbed by him? And if Bolton was chosen, I guarantee you that Rand Paul's not going to vote for him.

And wasn't it Rand Paul's thing? It's constitutional for me to approve him. Wasn't that him? He was the guy that was voting for all the Democrat nominees. He was voting for all the Democrat nominees under Obama. And now all of a sudden, nobody's good enough for you? Wade, I thought they were serving at the pleasure of the president and used your constitutional duty to approve them. That's a great point.

That's what his mindset was. Okay, so when you can't get anything from the president from going along because it's Barack Obama, you just think, well, maybe I can get something by going along on my constitutional right. However, now I've got a pressure point for the president. I know he wants something. so, what can I get in return? That's not a principled position that you're describing. You're describing a negotiating position, which is not something that I thought we were looking for.

Hmm? I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's how you explain that. Yes, it might be true. But I mean, and to show you how crucial this is, right? They've got 51 Republicans here to vote for them. 50 without Rand Paul. And, you know, John McCain is, you know, not been doing well. He's another non-torture guy.

present all the time. Also a non-torture guy. Well, for a reason. I'm a non-torture guy, but I'm too. It's just what you think is torture. Yes, exactly. So that's one of the things. Is pouring some water over somebody's mouth? And Paul's a rag in it. Opposition is the torture thing is also, you know, are you going to go to war?

He's very anti all the wars and he believes this team. You know, Pompeo and potentially Bolton as well is he's going to give you an aggressive, hawkish stance that they don't want. Do you feel that way yourself? I think it definitely is a move in that direction. I mean, Tillerson was the guy who was always talking down these conflicts. And Pompeo is much more aggressive. I think it's a good move from Tillerson to Pompeo, but that is the potential risk.

I mean, you want to, and I think a solid, uh, sharpened war instrument, Nikki Haley, John Bolton, Pompeo, Kelly. you got a pretty effective work. Yeah. That's really good. I mean, those are the guys I would want to be. He's worried about the drums of war with Iran, though. I don't want a war with Iran either.

Do you? I don't want a war with Russia. I don't want any war with anybody. Of course not. You always want it to be last resort. But I mean, like, if you look at this, if let's just say, take another one of the 17 Republican candidates. You know, take Jeb Bush, take Marco Rubio, you know, take, you know, whoever you want, Chris Christie,

and throw them in the White House, if they put a team together of Haley, Bolton, Pompeo, that is an absolute rock star. Rock star team. Yeah, it is. But very hawkish

Republican establishment type of people. It's interesting because he's, you know, he's obviously the kind of a drain the swamp type of guy. And some of his early nominations were in that realm. but this is a very standard Republican team. It's a good Republican team. It is. I feel like it's a...

For what their jobs that they're asked to do, they're perfect. And Haley's doing a fantastic job. Would you want Haley to be saying anything other than what she's saying in the way? I love it. I love it. Do we have the Nikki Haley audio? Can we play that, please? Here she is yesterday at the United Nations on Russia.

Russia failed to ensure Syria destroyed its chemical weapons program. Russia killed the joint investigative mechanism when it found Assad liable for chemical attacks. Russia used its veto to shield Assad five times last year. It has also provided cover for Syria in the Hague at the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. The Russians complained recently that we criticized them too much. If the Russian government stopped using chemical weapons

to assassinate its enemies, and if the Russian government stopped helping its Syrian ally to use chemical weapons to kill Syrian children, and if Russia cooperated with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, by turning over all information related to this nerve agent, we would stop talking about them. We take no pleasure in having to constantly criticize Russia, but we need Russia to stop giving us so many reasons to do so. She's a rock star. She's really good.

She is really good. She's the best. There have been three great UN ambassadors in my lifetime. Gene Kerpatrick. John Bolton. And her. And, yeah, and her. Yeah.

I mean, just rock star. You remember Gene Kerpatrick? She was, she just light your hair on fire. You'd be like, okay, okay, Gene. All right, whatever. Whatever Gene says, please don't let Gene speak again, please. All right, Pac Ray Unleashed. Coming up in the Blaze Radio and TV Network.

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So United Airlines, you know, they took a passenger because they were overbooked, and they drugged the passenger off the plane. now they've issued an apology for a dog that died mid-flight because they told the owner that they had to stuff him into an overhead bin. So weird. That is so, so strange. Like, I didn't that, again, United Airlines really bad job. I think this needs to be said off the top.

But what on earth was the passenger? Like, I would never accept. Would you ever accept? that with your dog? No, they called it a tragic accident. No, it wasn't an accident. That's what happens when you put dogs in a place with no ventilation and you stuff them in. That's, I would have surprised. I don't think I would have said, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I would have, I would have walked off the plane. Absolutely would have walked off the plane. Would you have thought it was an airtight containment, like that there wouldn't be able to breathe in there? I don't know that.

I don't know if there were other things in the overhead luggage, you know, if it was all by itself in that overhead space, it wouldn't occur to me. I mean, I would still wouldn't allow it to happen, but I wouldn't think the dog would necessarily die from it. By the way, people are trying to say that they are, you know, 5% of the animals shipped on the United Airlines die. That is not accurate at all. the correct number is it's 2.24 per 10,000.

Now that's a fairly high number for an airline. For example, American is 0.87 per 10,000. Well, I know, I have to tell you, I know that I've tried to ship dogs and things, you know, moving, et cetera, et cetera. And the airlines have always been really strict on, you know, it's too, you know, it's too hot. You know, to go underneath the plane. I mean, they've always seemed to be, you know, very cautious.

I mean, nobody wants to kill an animal, you know. United. Well, United might. I don't think they do. No, I don't think they do. But, I mean, again, it's, you know, it's one of those things I think pet owners generally freak out about. And it's one of these big incidents because it looks so bad. There's been a couple of them recently that have been high profile.

It's not really a gigantic. systemic problem for airlines to kill animals. It's fairly rare. Again, you know, the average airline, it's 0.8 animals per 10,000 die. That's the ratio. 0.8 per 10,000. So again, it's incredibly rare to happen. You want it to...

Do they require you to put the dog? I've seen people sit with dogs. I've practically seen people say, no, it's a... Uh, you know, it's a, it's a medical alligator. Um, you know, they, they come on with, you know, support animals all the time. And little teeny dogs, I see little teeny dogs sitting in people's laps all the time. We, you know, I've, you know, I've traveled with my dog, my little dogs before and sat them right under the seat. You know, they put the little carrier in front of them, open up the little zipper. They pop their head out. Like, I mean, it's, uh, you know, pretty, a lot of that's pretty standard. But I mean, we, we can, we can get overwhelmed by one crazy incident. Here's a deal. You know, United Airlines, if this is your policy, you should change it, or you should adopt a grander strategy and partner with Planned Parenthood and just put Down syndrome children in the overhead luggage. Glenn, back. Mercury.