The Glenn Beck Program - Climbing to Insanity | Guests: Chris & Emily Norton | 5/29/19

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

Hour 1 Paying to climb to your death ...Missouri's last abortion clinic is about to close. Safe rare and illegal to Shout Your Abortion. Arrogance will be their undoing. Netflix and their deal with t...he devil ...The Seven Longest Yards with Chris and Emily Norton  Hour 2 Justin Amash challenges President Trump, the greatest Showman. The art of spinning 'truth' to your favor ...More than just a 'trade war' with China. Leading the way on 5G. Praying for President Trump and those around him  Hour 3 Bob Mueller finally speaks. "No charges, Investigation is over." However, Russia is trying to interfere in our elections. Nothing new here. The quest for the Definitive with no smoking guns ...Watch BlazeTV for Free Now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Glembeck program. You know, I honestly, when I look at the news, I kind of feel like a mountain climber at Mount Everest. It's like everything's got to stand in line, man. Yeah, I know it's really important. You're going to get to the top of Mount Everest, but stand in line. There's a lot of important stuff going on. We're going to talk a little bit about Justin Amash. We're going to talk about China and their weaponizing of rare earth minerals.
Starting point is 00:00:29 we are not in a trade war. We're in a war war. And we'll explain that coming up in just a second. Also, the latest on the abortion controversy, Missouri is now going to be, what are they, one day away from not having any abortion clinics in the state. Congratulations, Missouri. At the same time, Georgia is being threatened by Netflix in Hollywood. Well, we're not going to do anything in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Oh. To get Hollywood to spend money in our state, all we have to do is kill children? Oh, well, that's a tough decision. We start there in one minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. Recent Gallup survey shows Americans are worried more now about burglary than almost any other crime. And I think there's a reason for it. Right now, we're living in a country where everybody's like, that's my stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No, I, I, that's my stuff. No, it's not. You don't deserve it. You see the, did you see the lawsuit going on? I think it's in New York where they are, where they systematically demoted white people because they were white and then gave their jobs to other people that were not qualified. Finally, Martin Luther King's dream has come true. Exactly. That's exactly what he wanted. As Al Sharpton said, it wasn't about a black man in the White House.
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Starting point is 00:03:35 and it's crowded as we're looking at all of the stories. They need a, they need like a Wendy's or something up there. Can I tell you something? It's grotesque, what it's turned into. Ah, I mean, it's a lot of people want to do it, right? I mean, a lot of people want to say they scaled Everest, and at some point, so many people have scaled Everest, no one wants to say they scaled Everest anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Do you want to scale Everest and stand in line for your photo op? It's like Disney. It is. Grotes. Well, it's really just a, you know, this is a dumb complication. But basically, there's only like a very short time you can actually do it. Right. And so they give away.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, look, it's Nepal. I know. They're like, here, we have one thing. That giant hill over there. I know. Charge whatever we can. Yeah, they're charging $11,000 for the permit to do it and everybody's paying it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So they're like, okay. And this time it was a relatively short period, even shorter than normal. So everyone rushed up there at the same time. And you know that they're like people are passing dead bodies? Yeah. Because you can't get dead bodies. down. It's like $70,000 to remove a body from the top of Mount Everest and people have died. And so they just leave them there. So you're like, hey, I'm going to get my photo op.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's a dead body over there. Well, just keep it out of the, crop it out of the picture. I mean, it's weird of what's happening. It is. It is. So I don't know that I would start with the Everest thing. No, no, no. Myself. But I think the Missouri thing is significant. And basically there is a new moment in this abortion conversation that we're having right now. Missouri has implemented some of the most restrictive abortion laws in America. And, you know, obviously this is all going to an eventual Supreme Court challenge of many different parts of Roe v. Wade, but also the entirety of it. But Missouri has one abortion clinic left, and it is Planned Parenthood. And they have been audited at Planned Parenthood.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And so Planned Parenthood is, like, they actually did have problems. They went through the entire audit and they found, you know, significant issues. Planned Parenthood gave them a plan and this is how we're going to correct those issues. And the state's like, yeah, well, that doesn't look sufficient. We want to have some interviews with some of the people who work there. And Planned Parenthood is refusing. They won't even let, they won't even be, like, think about this. If you are an abortion supporter for a second, you are saying this is this fundamental.
Starting point is 00:05:57 right and it's all about women's rights. And then Planned Parenthood is saying, yeah, we're not going to let you interview our doctors to keep this clinic open. They're saying, no, you can't interview them. Now, God only knows what would happen if they did interview them because who knows what shady stuff they've
Starting point is 00:06:13 been doing there and what they would admit to under questioning. They may. And that is probably why Planned Parenthood doesn't want them interviewed. But if they don't interview them, the state is saying, well, if you don't go along with the process that we've outlined here, you are going to, your license is going to expire and we're not going to renew it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So that expires, I believe, in one week. Do you imagine any other business? You imagine financial sector, car sector, anybody, when the state license you and you as a business say, no, you can't interview us on the license renewal. No, you can't talk to any of us. How dare you even think about talking to us? Everybody would say, what are you doing? Why are you doing that?
Starting point is 00:06:57 What are you hiding? You know, and maybe they're not hiding anything. Maybe it's just on principle. But if you're a regulated industry, you imagine the cable company saying to Congress, you know what? We're not showing up. You have to understand, though, Glenn, there's a fundamental principle of the left that they just don't believe in government regulation. They don't want the government in the business of a doctor and patient relationship. They want nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Except for universal health care. yeah, and every other interaction, including things that you buy over the counter. Right. They want, and they want the FDA to basically block every new medication until the end of time. And they want to be able to sue every drug manufacturer every time someone has a negative side effect. And sure, they want to do all of those things. And they want to be involved in every aspect of your life from birth to death. But this one thing, they are just basically iron rand on.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Right. They don't want any government interaction. Imagine the left if the insurance industry or the drug manufacturing industry said, we're not taking any questions. You can't question us. How dare you even question us? Can you imagine what they'd be saying? Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It doesn't happen. No, but they have special rights. Planned Parenthood gets special rights because they're a protected political group. And their case is basically, they're harassing us. They're coming up with these things, these crazy things. these crazy things that we have to do, and we're not going to go along with them anymore. But again, like, if you're protecting a fundamental human right,
Starting point is 00:08:33 like you say you are, surely interviews is not too far, right? That's not too much to ask. They're doing this because I think they think there could be a potential disaster if they get their employees in front of these people questioning. Sure. Who might think a little bit more about themselves and say, look, I'm going to be honest. I don't want to get thrown in jail for lying about any of this.
Starting point is 00:08:54 So they may be honest, and that is not what Planned Parenthood wants. It'll be interesting. This would be the first state since Roe versus Wade occurred to have zero abortion clinics in it. They would have zero as of next week. I have to tell you, it's this by the Democrats forcing this, by taking such an extreme position, they are forcing people that have never thought about it before, never wanted to think about it, because it was in that safe, uh, legal and rare category.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And people were happy living there. You know, the vast majority, I shouldn't say vast. 50, 60% of Americans were happy living there. Safe, rare, legal. It just covered everything for most people in America. And because they got away from safe, rare, and legal to shout your abortion. Abortions are great. My best abortion happened.
Starting point is 00:09:54 the first abortion to where it was, it's crazy. It forced people to go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, that's life. Now, wait a minute. When does life actually start? And we're having real deep conversations for the very first time. And it may not be happening on the left, but it is happening on the right. And that's why you're seeing states like Missouri say, you know, none, zero. Because people are having this.
Starting point is 00:10:23 They have played this card because they believe that there is enough Americans who will say, Oh my gosh, look, they're trying to shut down all abortions. I'm going to vote for the people who said, yeah, you can let the child die after birth. I'm going to vote for them because of these extremists that don't want anything because they say it's life. I'm sorry. I don't think you're going to win. I really don't. I think Americans are fair.
Starting point is 00:10:57 They don't want to be involved in your life. They don't. They won't want to be involved in your decisions. They have enough hard decisions to make on their own. I don't know about you, but I'm dealing with my teenage kids, and I don't need to mess with you. Why am I getting involved in your life? My life is enough. I'd like somebody to help me out on mine.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'm looking for some answers. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think that's where most people are. But when you go so far where you're like, yeah, that's not even a kid. What? Right. My abortion's biggest friend has always been the ability to drown out the thought about it.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yes. Right. And so like you think about it. Because people don't want to think about it. Right. Like you're in an apartment, right? And you hear yelling and fighting in the next apartment through the walls. Abortion's biggest friend has been America's unending ability to just turn up the music really loud and not hearing. Right. And so there's, that's going on.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Because of our tolerance. Because we don't want to get involved in somebody else's affairs. Right. And so that's your starting point, right? However, when you hear the plate hit the wall and break and you hear a giant piece of furniture turnover. And at that point, Americans, all right, I got to turn the music down and listen to this because what the hell is going on? I got to call the cops. Yep. And that is where we are, I think, with abortion. They are. I think so too. They have come to the point where they're, they are you can't you can't ignore it anymore because of the extremes they're going to and that overall is a good thing i i i fear the idea that we're in a debate about the ninth month of pregnancy because you know because if you lose this the overton window moves yeah you you lose this debate if if if people go numb on this we are then killing children we are the the next
Starting point is 00:12:49 the next thing we debate is, you know, their health care is too expensive, so just let them die. I mean, that's what's going to happen. Because historically, that's what happens. And I think America is drawing the line. You know, I thought about this a lot last night. And I listened to three different speeches. I listened to George Washington's farewell address, Eisenhower's farewell address. You got audio of Washington's.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That's amazing. Yeah, it's actually audio. Somebody else read it. But yes. I did figure that. So Washington's farewell address, Eisenhower's farewell address, and Reagan's time for choosing. And I want to work on this a bit for tomorrow's broadcast. But I will tell you that everything that they said is happening now. And everything that they were talking about is 100% reasonable.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I believe to our Democratic neighbors, to those who vote Democrat, they will listen to these words if they are presented in the right way. They will listen to those words and go, yeah, that's true. I agree with that. Absolutely. And I remember in 2008, you might remember this. We were so freaked out, and I prayed so hard. And I got two answers.
Starting point is 00:14:13 One, these are not enemies of yours. They're enemies of mine. anybody who stands against freedom, basic human freedom, they're not enemies of yours. Those are my rights. I've lent that you're going to have to fight for them. But those are my rights that I lend to you. So be on my side. I'm not on your side.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'm on the side of rights. Be on my side. That was the first thing. At the same time, I got another message. And that was their arrogance will be their undoing. Don't worry. Their arrogance will be their undoing. will be their undoing.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And that's what we're seeing right now. They are so arrogant. They so believe that they are in the majority because of the media and everything else that they're not afraid to say anything. And they're saying the craziest damn stuff. And Americans are waking up. More in a second. First, let me pause for one minute and tell you about blinds.com.
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Starting point is 00:16:48 She is hysterical. Have you seen what she wrote to Alyssa Milano and her, you know, not going to have sex, you know, make sure you don't have sex with your husbands until this has changed. Did you see her tweet back? I think I did, yeah. Alyssa, have your husband call me. I love that. Actually, I think even Alyssa left.
Starting point is 00:17:12 She did. She actually liked that tweet. But, you know, we're coming to a place where Bridget Fetasy is, she's not known as a conservative at all. Um, she's had a fascinating, fascinating life. Um, and has, has worked for Playboy magazine. She's very outspoken on sex and, and everything else. And she has a reason for it. Her life story is incredible.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Um, but she has been rejected now. I don't remember the first thing. What was the first thing that happened? But she's been rejected by the left because she is an independent thinker. And I think she's one of those like Dave Rubin who is starting to go, wait a minute. You know, I just kind of always thought I was a liberal, and I'm not for any of that stuff. And she's waking up. And I think there are a lot of people like that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And when I see Netflix come out and say, you know what? If Georgia, if you try to go and do that heartbeat law, well, we're not going to film there. I think there's a lot of people that, A, are sick of Hollywood. B, are smart enough to go, wait a minute, we're talking about a baby. So you're asking me to turn a blind eye to killing babies. Or you'll give me money. Or if I don't turn a blind eye, you'll leave and you won't make your stupid show here. well that sounds like a deal with a devil.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Because even if you don't agree on the position in abortion, you obviously don't want to state making its decisions on its laws, especially on something as critical as life, based on whether, you know, the next season of House of Cards, which by the way, starred a guy who was molesting people all over the set Netflix, all over the set. Yeah. Yeah, you made a lot of money off of that one.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Did you donate that money, Netflix? Did you? Because I don't remember the, I don't remember. Remember the big story about how you donated all that money from all the profits from House of Cards that you made, which basically launched your entire company. And Ron, a giant party of molestation of at times underaged boys, that whole thing doesn't seem to make you make any decisions as far as money goes. Yeah, you changed out the actress on the last season. And you apparently fired anyone who had any ability to write. Because I don't know what the hell happened in that last season. It was terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I don't know. I think they all went to HBO and wrote the ending of Game of Throne. Okay. Shouldn't you be making your decisions as a state when it comes to your laws based on what's right and what's wrong? Not based on extortion by Netflix. For instance, I grew up out west. So this probably never registered on your radar and you're a little younger than I am. But I remember when the 55 mile an hour.
Starting point is 00:20:24 speed limit happened. Okay. Now, back in the in the east, it probably didn't mean that much because you went from 70 to 55. And quite honestly, in Connecticut and Washington, everything, you're lucky to get to 55, okay, on the highway. But out west, they were, everybody was like, are you kidding me? Do you know how long we're going to have to be on the highway to go visit somebody? Because our states are enormous. And the government said, we're going to withhold funds unless you do this. People back then were upset and some states went, you know what, screw you. That was over a speed limit thing. This is life. Hold your ground, Georgia, Missouri. Hold your ground. You're listening to Glenn Beck. So I want to talk to a little bit about relief factor. If you're in constant pain,
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Starting point is 00:22:28 That's relieffactor.com. I'm going to introduce you to an amazing, amazing couple. They have just been named the hottest event keynote speakers of 2018. And that includes, you know, the likes of Mark Cuban and Barbara Cochran and Magic Johnson and everybody else you can think of. they are motivational speakers, I guess, but really the motivation, I think, just comes from the way they live their life. Chris Norton, Emily Norton, author of The Seven Longest Yards. Welcome to the program. How are you? Good. Thanks for having us. Yeah, thank you for having us. So anybody who doesn't know you, tell me what the seven longest yards are. Yeah. So the seven longest yards, it came from this goal that I said, I'm going to walk, Emily, seven yards down the aisle of our wedding. side by side, which, you know, listening, you probably think that should be easy.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Well, in 2010, as a 18-year-old kid, I was playing college football, and I was running down to make the tackle, and I see the opening, just a routine tackle, but I missed on my jump just by a split second. And so instead of getting my head in front of the ball carrier, my head collides right with his legs, and instantly I lose all feeling and movement from my neck down, and I was given a 3% chance to ever regain any feeling or movement back, but. below the neck after suffering a severe spinal cord injury, which at the time I felt like my life was over. And eventually it led to meeting Emily and then setting this goal that we're going to
Starting point is 00:24:00 walk down the aisle for a wedding. And actually the walk down the aisle ended up being the easiest part of our journey. And your journey, you guys met three years after. We did. Right. And you went through some dark times as well. Tell me about that. Yeah. So after college, I went through a dark time of depression and suffering with anxiety. And I've always had just a big passion in a heart for helping kids, kids who have been abused, neglected, without families, just had this big passion for kids in foster care and struggling with those things. So I always took that on my own shoulders and had this responsibility that it was my responsibility to help these kids. And instead of letting it out, I kept it in. And it really wore on me. I started not caring as much,
Starting point is 00:24:48 stop feeling and just started losing me. Honestly, I thought I would never be me again. Like I thought I was gone. Emily was gone forever. No hope. And I suffered for way longer than I should have because I was very against getting help. I felt like I had to do it myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Very independent. I felt like if I got help, that that was weakness and that. It's crazy. It is. When you change that one viewpoint, that it is a strength to ask for help, not weakness, everything changes. 100%. That's exactly what it was. Being able to come to that realization that you have to ask for help, you have to depend on
Starting point is 00:25:27 God. There's nothing wrong with that. And it does. It takes more strength to ask for help and admit like something's going on and it shouldn't be. But another thing that was holding me back from help was I didn't think that I could be depressed. Why would I be depressed? Never gone through anything difficult, right? So I didn't understand it at all. I understood that other people who went through hard things could get depressed. But for me, like I had this. There's no way. That doesn't make sense. So I just kept pushing through it and don't like being vulnerable. And so I shoved it all inside. All of the things that just create a disaster and so much more struggles than I should have been. And it lasted for a few years because
Starting point is 00:26:03 of those views that I was really wanting. And where were you in that recovery when you, when you two met online? Yeah. So I mean, so that was before any of this started. I was at a really good place when we met online. And it was actually right after the graduation walk that it really hit me. I had some signs before, but we stayed so busy with working hard and focusing on the graduation walk. But after the graduation walk and after it went viral, when everything was going so great, it just, I went down and I hit the bottom with where I was at. Tell me about the graduation walk. Yeah. So this was the first big goal of mine. After my injury, I set the goal, I want to walk across the stage in my college graduation. They know how I was going to do it. Bussons work as hard as I possibly could
Starting point is 00:26:49 each and every day. And I told Emily about this goal when we first met and she was just as excited as this goal as I was. And she became my personal trainer, my best personal trainer that I've ever had. And we just worked relentlessly for this walk across the stage, which I thought in my mind, I got to walk as fast as I can so I don't get boot off the stage and people are like checking the clock like it's hot in the gym like graduations are long and i'm like oh man i got a i got a bucket across there and so when i we start going across the stage um this a roar of just cheering and um clapping and then i finally get across and i look out in the whole room they're just everyone's crying i just couldn't believe the reaction the response and then eventually that video goes viral and it just takes
Starting point is 00:27:40 People are still crying every time they see it. Yeah. I'm about crying with just hearing you saying. Now, so you guys didn't just get through your own little struggles. You have taken 17. How old are you? 26. 27.
Starting point is 00:27:56 27. You have had 17 foster kids and adopted five? Yes, we have. That hell is wrong with you? Yeah. Five girls. You really haven't recovered from meeting that guy's leg. No, I haven't, yeah. Maybe I had a brain injury too.
Starting point is 00:28:15 17 and adopted five. We have. Yeah, it's, we love it. And I mean, when we first started, we're like, we'll take one kid and got a different plan and kept stretching us. And it is absolutely, it's become both of our passions. And we love just being able to help kids in these hard situations. No, they're loved. They're special. God has an amazing plan. And it takes a lot of work. There's a lot of hard moments. But we, but we, you can just stay there and show the kids are not alone. So many of the struggles I went through helped me to know how to to help the kids and to how to be there so that they don't feel alone. And when they're trying to push you away to push back harder, but it's been absolutely amazing. I have a 15-year-old son who I'm having a heck of a time with right now. And it is, it's the hardest thing I've ever done is raise my son.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And just no matter how hard he pushes me. back to be there. Yeah. That's one. And look at me. I'm 23. I mean, it's insane. How do you, how do you push through it with 17 and five now adopted?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah. You know, Emily's like, wonder woman without the cape. Like, she just like, the more kids we get, the more energy she has. Like, I don't know how she does it, but I mean, I'll never forget the first time she's like, when we say like one child like under the age of two and she's like Chris what about two I'm like kids I'm like no way we can do two kids that's insane and then eventually we've worked our way up to seven but um you just like you take on more than what you think you can handle that's when you can realize your potential and so we just keep finding out that the more we take on you just figure it out and you just
Starting point is 00:30:03 do it yeah I mean I would say a big thing too is not taking it on your shoulders what I learned when I went through the depression. Like I learned to depend on God and put everything on him instead of keeping it on myself because you have to meet the kids where they are, but then to not let it bring you down. But instead, like, feel enough where you can still get into action and do every single thing you can every single day and let go of what's out of your control. There's so much out of your control.
Starting point is 00:30:26 So just knowing and focusing on what we can do and letting the rest go has been very, very helpful to be able to do it. So have you guys, have you, I want to phrase this carefully. have you guys failed in ways that you would have described as a failure 10 years ago and been able to walk away going we did everything we could and that's a success. Yeah, I mean, I would say that there's been moments where you feel like we would have previously felt like, you know, we're failing. But you just, when you do absolutely everything you can do and you focus on that and change your perspective to that, It really helps a lot to know because obviously some of the kids that we've had in our home have had a lot of behavioral problems.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And we've seen transformations. But then then there's other times that you wish you could do more. You wish that you could change more. Do you get to a point to where you're like, I don't know. I've done everything I know how. I don't know what else to do. Yes. You get to that point.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But it's kind of special too when you stay after it and you stay persistent. like in that moment of like nothing's working like we're failing and then like months later the kid or the child will refer to something that you said months ago that you thought they weren't getting at all like nothing that you were saying what's registering and then they apply something that you were trying to teach them months later and you see little moments like that that you can see the progress and you just focus on that progress and just chipping away at it because it's not an over night thing. It's not something that you snap your fingers and all
Starting point is 00:32:11 the abuse and trauma that they experience and all the wiring that they've undergone is just gone. It takes a lot of time, a lot of moments. I will tell you I'm in my 50s, even though I look, 22. And I...
Starting point is 00:32:27 You don't need to laugh at that. No, I just... Or is it 72? And I still struggle for wisdom. And I'm listening to you too with such deep wisdom that really comes, you can't read wisdom in a book, you can read it in a book, but that's not where it comes from. It comes from you actually experiencing it. Do you think you would be anywhere close to who you are or where you are had it not been for your accident and your deep depression?
Starting point is 00:33:03 No, absolutely not. There's no way that I would be able to be able to be. be a foster parent. We've heard most unimaginable things with these kids and what they've gone through. And previously with how I was able to cope with that, I mean, honestly, it sent me into the depression and I couldn't handle it. And so now I know exactly how to handle. I know how to let go of what's out of your control. And don't get me wrong. There are moments that I don't like anybody. And it's a battle. You just have to battle it. You have to fight it. And you just have to keep remembering that if you do what you can do as best as you know how and work every day, things. do start changing and turning around.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. And now for me, like, if I could go back and change that play that paralyzed me, I wouldn't do it because I found a life and a purpose worth living for. And I can see and use my pain for a purpose. And it gives me life and inspiration knowing that my struggles can help somebody else through their own pain and struggles. You two are remarkable. You're truly remarkable.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And as a man who has hit lows and has been blessed by a good wife, you're a great woman, and you are greatly blessed. You're greatly blessed. And vice versa. Absolutely. She's wet on my leg. Yeah, I think good women usually are out of our league. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here. Yeah, thanks for having us.
Starting point is 00:34:46 How can we follow you? How can we follow your adventures? Well, I know Instagram, Facebook, you know, we have our book coming out, the seven longest yards, which shares our struggles and our journey. But, you know, Instagram, Chris A. Norton 16 is a great way to follow me. And that's my handle all across social media. Chris Norton.org is my website. Yeah, and mine for Instagram and Facebook is Emily Summers Norton. And we do.
Starting point is 00:35:11 We try to like our life purpose is just to help people realize like you're not alone. Like everybody goes through hard things. So many people have looked at me and thought I've had everything together. Like so many comments of you're perfect. There's nothing going on. And I hit everything. And you have no idea what someone else is going through. Chris, you see his challenges.
Starting point is 00:35:28 He's in a wheelchair. Every single one of us struggles. Every single one of us hits those low points. And what it's about is just fighting to get out of it and knowing it's a strength to get help like you said. Everyone is in their own. wheelchair, just most of ours are invisible. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and when I found this out when I was at alcoholic, I hid everything.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I was very good functioning alcoholic. And I said things on the radio that I thought were going to destroy my career because I was, I was done with radio. I'd done it for 20 years and I was done with it back in the 90s. And I said the worst things about me because I was viewed as this, you know, clean cut kind a guy and I was anything but and I exposed who I was and what I was struggling with. And the opposite happened. I realized the more we are honest with each other, the more we tell, the more we realize I could disagree with you on everything, but we are exactly alike. We are exactly alike.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh yeah. I'm privileged to people to see my challenges. People are kind and so helpful to me because they see what I'm going through. I appreciate that, but we can do that to everyone. Yeah. And all the challenges that we're facing would be a better world. Chris and Emily Norton, the Chris Norton Foundation, chrisnorton.org. And the book is the seven longest yards you can pre-order now. Thank you guys so much for being here.
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Starting point is 00:38:38 We will be carrying that live stations, just so you know. He is, it's very interesting because it was announced and arranged by the Department of Justice. So this is not him saying, I want to hold a press conference. There will be no questions. He is just going to make a statement today. And again, we'll be carrying that live stations. And it is the first time he said anything since the investigation really began. And it's going to be quite interesting how he threads this needle, what he has to say.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Coming up. Is the Glembeck program? Well, there is a lot going on today. Mark Cuban wants to change the Second Amendment. He says it's time to update it. That's fantastic. We have some news on Howard Stern that I personally find fascinating. I've read his new book and Highland.
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Starting point is 00:42:57 He may have wanted to be, he may have been the impetus behind him. He might have been the one saying, hey, I want to, I want to say something. But it was called by the Justice Department. So this is not him going rogue on his own. This is through the Justice Department. So it'll be interesting to see what he has to say. Any thoughts on that? We're bringing in Jason Buttrue. who can go into a couple of other topics that we're going to deal with here in a second, but bringing him in also chief researcher of the program. Stu, any thoughts on what he's going to say? I mean, it's a statement, no questions, which is significant.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You'd think that if they were announcing it through the DOJ, it doesn't mean he's going to say, by the way, I forgot to put this piece of evidence, this video of Donald Trump making out with Vladimir Putin in the report. You can't imagine it's going to be something like that. But he may just want to clarify. I mean, I know one of the big things, oddly, one of the biggest focuses of the aftermath of the Mueller report is this Barr letter, which I just don't understand the focus on it. I mean, you know, like we said at the time, I was on the air the day you were sick, the day it was going on. And I remember saying it's like, look, we all expect Barr to put the best face possible on this initial report.
Starting point is 00:44:12 That's he, he, look, we can all act as if he's not going to do that. But if Eric Holder was releasing this report for Barack Obama, you're damn right. have been it would have been favorable to it would have been the most favorable way he could be accurate and that's exactly what he did and so and we but then again even when I came back as I think it was up back the next day I came back and I said don't put any stock into this let's wait for the full report board to wait for the full report right what he said was was accurate but not he did not tell the entire story that's what a report does a summary does not tell the whole story exactly And like the idea that this three-week period in between when this one letter came out that did not tell the whole story, admittedly.
Starting point is 00:44:55 But then he released the entire report and redacted almost nothing. It's like if he hadn't released anything else yet, I could understand this controversy. He's released the entire report. Like we've all been able to read it with the exception of very few things that were redacted. And not because it was forced out because he said he was going to release it. He just needed to make sure what was redacted, needed to be redacted, and he was going to open it up as much as he could. And he said that in his letter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I mean, so it wasn't like he was hiding anything. He knew the report was coming out the way he was going to release it. But this is one of the big things that Mueller was apparently upset about. He wrote a letter to Barr saying, basically, hey, you need to release my summaries or please release my summaries. Barr refused to do that. Then did testify in front of Congress and said, I don't know. they probably wanted to release a little more after he'd released, you know, he'd already received the letter from Mueller saying we want to release more. Like, he knew it. But again,
Starting point is 00:45:55 like, I don't think this is a huge controversy given the fact that we got the entire report like a couple weeks later. And so my guess would be that Mueller is going to come out and say that he was probably wanted to get the full, you know, the full details out there and would have preferred that to come out. And he wanted to get more information out of there. But again, like, you know, we have it all already. So this idea that this three-week period, if you can't convince the American people that Donald Trump did something wrong
Starting point is 00:46:23 with the full report, and your fallback option is essentially to say, well, we didn't like the idea that for three weeks people kind of believed it wasn't as bad as we think it was. I mean, you're just a failure as a party. You've got another 18 months to make this case to the American people.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And if you can't do it in 18 months, you're not going to win. So what do you think of, I'm going to say, two words here that will inflame people or have people celebrate. Those two words, Justin Amash. I think what Justin was saying, well, I know what he was saying last night at his two-hour open forum in his district.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I mean, the guy has balls of steel. And he was taking it from all sides. And he was taking it and being really cool. Let's be respectful. Let's talk this out. And what he was saying was not that he's for impeachment, but he has not signed on for impeachment. He is not saying, yeah, the Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats, they're going the right way.
Starting point is 00:47:28 What he's saying is, is that the president violated trust. And that is true. We all know it. We've just discounted it. We've priced it in already. Right. We know. You take what you take from.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Donald Trump in the 1980s, I'm, you know, I'm the, you know, I'm the. greatest. This is the most luxuries. We got it. He's a salesman. Okay. We've known since the first time we saw Donald Trump, we're getting a hype story. So it's all been priced in. He's admitted this in several books. And he says, this is part of how you negotiate. It's a big piece of what he says all the time. Right. This is why you can't get so fired up like CNN constantly does or MSNBC constantly does about something he says or tweets or whatever. He's told us a thousand. times. It's between negotiation. It's about it's about hype. I mean, he believes in those things and has lived his
Starting point is 00:48:22 entire life based on those principles. He is P.T. Barnum. And he don't, I don't mean that because he wouldn't take that in a bad way. He knows. The greatest showman. He's the greatest showman. So all of that has been priced in. What, what Justin Amash was saying last night was America has to have the conversation on a president, violating the public's trust by being a showman by saying, oh, well, it wasn't, come on, Don. And there's nothing in the Mueller report that surprised me. I would have been absolutely heartbroken, maybe not surprised if there was more, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:06 action happening with Russia. But I wouldn't have been surprised either with Hillary Clinton doing exactly the same thing. That's the way it works. now, unfortunately. Well, it wasn't what we thought it was. But it wasn't, it also, I mean, he was doing deals. We all knew he was doing deals with Russia. Of course he's trying to get Trump Tower in Moscow.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Of course. He told us, no, no business deal. Well, he defines business a different way. That's all bull crap. And we all know it is. That's just the way he compartmentalizes stuff. What Justin was saying was, America needs to decide, is that okay?
Starting point is 00:49:49 And impeachment is the only way to decide that. Now, we should have this conversation, but that doesn't mean that we impeach him. It means we have the conversation. I agree with that. I agree with it. We should have that conversation. We should be eyes wide open. Nobody should be so blind to, you know, Donald Trump to or Nancy.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Pelosi or anything to where you're like, no, I don't even want to talk about it. No, let's talk about it. Yeah. And part of his point is there's a split in what impeachment means, right? If you go back to the founders, you know, Alexander Hamilton was big on this and that like, you know, it should be something that when there is, you know, a misuse of the public trust, like we should be going for this. And like that kind of concept is basically a lot of people get impeached, right? Like going down that, going down that road is we use impeachment more often. The founding. The founding. look at it as something that was utilized a little bit more often than we today, because now we look at it as it's like, oh my gosh, it only happens once every hundred years.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It's an interesting split. Like Alan Dershowitz has been on the program before and explained the other side of that, which is the bar should be incredibly high. And only if you have very clear violations, high crimes, really. Yeah, not just lies. High crimes. Not Clinton stuff. And to be fair, but Dershowitz,
Starting point is 00:51:14 was consistent on that point when Clinton was, Bill Clinton was getting impeached and saying, you shouldn't do this. It's not to the level. Right. This, you know, Republicans are, you know, did utilize, I would say, the more, the thing that was closer to the founders during the Clinton administration. Many people argued for it during the Obama administration. We don't necessarily have proof of crimes, however he should be impeached. And that's kind of what, you know, the Democrats are trying to make an argument on. Now, they have no, we know they have no credibility on this point. But it is, I think, an important thing for the future of the country to figure out which one of those things we want. Do we want something?
Starting point is 00:51:48 And I don't know. I mean, I kind of tend to lean a little bit more towards wanting that bar to be high, especially when we have four-year terms. Like, you know, the idea that we're going to go to impeachment now, when we're in the middle of a presidential campaign, it makes no sense to me. Just vote the guy out if you think he sucks. We're right around the corner. Amash's point on that is, well, we can't just say, because we're close to.
Starting point is 00:52:12 to an election, people can do whatever they want. The same rules apply when at the beginning of the term and then at the end of the term. And of course, he's right on that. I think as a pragmatic sort of functional thing, we've got 2,947 Democrats running for president. If you can't find
Starting point is 00:52:28 one of them that you like more than this guy, he probably should be impeached. Right? Like, I mean, that's kind of a baseline, I think, real worldview of this. But, you know, Amash is looking at this, I think, correctly constitutionally. And it is the way the founders looked at it. I mean, they outline this in great detail in the Federalist papers saying, like, look, the issue here is when someone breaks the public trust, we have to have a way to hold them accountable.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You know, we've been talking for a long time about how the DOJ basically has a rule. This is not a constitutional situation, but has a rule that you can't indict a sitting president. And so we accept that, I think, generally speaking. And indictment is, hey, we think you've done something. Right. We need to have a grand jury and look. into criminal proceedings. But you can't even go to that point, as of now with a sitting president. And so if you don't take impeachment to the more generalized view and saying, like, well, we can
Starting point is 00:53:23 impeach you for, you know, hurting the public trust, you're essentially making the argument that the president is largely above the law. Above the law. Right. Like, he can do things that other citizens can't do. And while we kind of know that in reality, it's not something I want to admit. It's not something I want to codify. I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to make that the rule. So I think like, I think the concept of having impeachment as a threat to a politician who's entering into the presidency or any other position where if they start violating the public trust constantly, they will be removed from office is something that's really important. If we just say, well, if you murder someone will remove you from office, well, that's not a real. It's almost a meaningless standard. Impeachment's not even a thing.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Here's the thing. Everything in life has a consequence. What President Trump did was be P.T. Barnum and skate around the truth and move it around. He didn't do any of the things that everybody said he was doing. Okay. He didn't do any of Russia. He did not collude with Russia. He did not take the information from Russia. He just didn't do any of the things that they were going after. He did, however, mislead us on his business dealings. But we knew that that was baked in. If you didn't know that, you were an imbecile. Okay. So what we're talking about here is a consequence of the president betraying the public trust to some degree. Well, you know, is that a bad thing or a good thing or a neutral thing? That's something we should all decide.
Starting point is 00:55:01 But the Democrats are going to pay a price as well for their action or inaction. If they don't act, they're going to piss off all of their really far left-wing people. So they're going to pay a price for that. If they do, and they do impeach, they'll pay a very high price for that as well with the remaining people who are like, you know what? Can we just stop this nonsense? Let the system work itself out. Let it work itself out. You just be a little quieter, Jason.
Starting point is 00:55:34 We're trying to have a conversation here. Sorry about that. We're going to come back with Jason here in a second. Yeah, we've got a lot to talk to you about, Jason. Car shield. Car shield, when your car says check engine. that's not a good thing. I mean, it's just not.
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Starting point is 00:57:58 trade war. As I've told you in the past, I don't agree with trade barriers. I don't like it. However, when it comes to China, I think the president is right because of China 2025, which is a goal of China set back in the early 2000s of being the dominant economic power and information power on earth by 2025. This is something that we have not paid attention to at all. And our corporations have given them everything because they saw that market and went, oh, we can make a lot of money. So business here for cheap goods, we all made this deal, went over to China.
Starting point is 00:58:50 If Apple wasn't built in China, you would not be able to. to afford it. An Apple phone would be in the $2,000 to $2,500 range if it was made here in America. At the same time, these companies were so desperate for it, they gave China all of their technology. When you go over and do business, part of the deal is you have to teach us and show us everything, how you make it, everything. And so they're just gaining all of this technology for free, because we've been so desperate. Between China 2025 and and the new Silk Road and the Silk Road of Information being the Foggi Network, China is warring with the West and the free world.
Starting point is 00:59:36 They are at economic war with us, and we haven't had the balls to say anything. They're sending us poisoned dog food and bad medicine and opioids. They're doing honestly what the Opium War was doing. what the English were doing to the Chinese. We'll talk about that with Jason, our head researcher, and what that means to us and what's happening over in Europe. And what that says for the future, because there's a real change in the air over in Europe. And I think it shows that Donald Trump is on the right side of history of at least the the short-term history of where things are going.
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Starting point is 01:01:56 Use the promo code Glenn. Jason Butrill, who is with us now and our head researcher, I want to talk to you a little bit about Europe and China, but also a little bit about Mueller and what he's going to say here in about 30 minutes on this report. It seems to me, Jason, that this is nothing but a circus and a sideshow. nobody's really honestly looking for the truth in anything because the truth is Russia tried to meddle and did meddle with our elections and they'll do it again and nobody's talking about
Starting point is 01:02:34 that we're just talking about impeachment which has no chance of going anywhere it the house can vote for impeachment good for them then it goes to the Senate do you think they're going to pick it up no and who's going to suffer at the at the at election time, the Republicans and Donald Trump or the Democrats. The Democrats will pay the price for this. Yeah, that's from a former member of the intelligence community, that is, that's really the tragedy of this entire thing. Like, we know with what Russia did.
Starting point is 01:03:06 It's very detailed the report that they released on how they were, they messed with our election, how they hacked major, you know, party, uh, organizations, DNC and everything. There's no question. You imagine what the, what the NSA and CIA. have on this that we Oh my gosh. For the amount of stuff that we know at our level
Starting point is 01:03:25 and we were talking about three, four years ago before any of this was in the public sphere, we found it on YouTube. Yeah. Where they're admitting what they were going to do. Imagine what the federal government has. And they're not talking about it. Yeah. I mean, we don't know. That's really where the oversight
Starting point is 01:03:43 should be right now. It shouldn't be talking about the stupid crap they're talking about now. It should be, wait a minute, like the House Intelligence Committee should be like, so are we identifying what went wrong and have we hardened ourselves against this in the future? What about all the states? We have an election coming up in a mere matter of months. Why are we not doing something? Are we doing something? What are we doing? When the president said the other day that we had to go to Mars because space was the most important defense thing we could do right now. I disagree. I think the most important thing we can do is
Starting point is 01:04:15 harden our intelligence network and our information network and our election network. We are prime for hacking. And if we are hacked, we end up being in the worst shape because we are the first world. When something does work, when we don't have electricity, when we don't have power, when we don't even have air conditioning, we go to hell fast. China doesn't go to hell that fast because their people are already living a lot like the Stone Age.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah. Yeah. We are in a new nuclear like basically arms race right now. This is the new, like before it was actual nuclear weapons. Right now it's different types of tech. You mentioned China,
Starting point is 01:05:00 5G rollouts. That is crucial right now. And China's destroying us in that. AI right now. We should be having, there should be a Manhattan project for artificial intelligence scientists all over the world.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I've said that for years. That should be the immigration center right now. Last week, last week, Samsung released this Mona Lisa project. Did you guys see this? We talked about it last night. So making the Mona Lisa
Starting point is 01:05:24 move and talk. Okay. It's a painting. Making it come to life and speak and they can do it with any picture that most people didn't realize that was announced at Samsung AI Moscow.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Wow. Okay. That's significant. That that is, that's a deep fake territory. That's deep fake central. And we're not talking about it. Yeah. Russia actually has a hacking convention every year where they invite all the best hackers and computer scientists into like one central location. I think it's in St. Petersburg. And they give them a task. And the tasks are all military. This is frightening. Have you ever heard about this? No. They give them a task that's specific to attacking. other nation state. So they'll be like, there's a power plant. You have 30 minutes to break into it. What do you do? Or you have 30 minutes to crash it and make it explode. What do you do? We're not doing any of that. At least that I know of. I hope we are. But I don't think we're doing any of that. Well, we did find out that the NSA did have this tool that's now kind of biting us because it was leaked.
Starting point is 01:06:32 But they had a tool that could break into basically every Microsoft computer for several years and never reported it to Microsoft because they'd like to using it. Of course. And, and, And once it leaked and now other countries were using it against us, they did go to Microsoft. It's been patched now. But these whatever computer isn't patched can still be hit by it. Point being, though, they got a lot of tools. I mean, the NSA has a lot of tools. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And I hope we do. I hope we are, I mean, we are in the, we're in the Sputnik time period now for technology. And whoever gets to the moon first dominates, dominates. And I hope to God that it, it's us. China is not screwing around now. And I think, Jason, I think we have gotten this China thing right from the beginning. Yep. We have said it's about 5G.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It's about hacking into our businesses and our inventions here. It's about our companies giving away their intellectual property for free to China. It's about unfair practices that. China is doing and China 2025. This is a serious issue. This is a transformative economy that we're about to see. We talk about how there's been going to be massive shifts. They're moving away from creating small, like a little stupid little products, you know, that they used to sell off to us and we still buy via Amazon. It takes about two months for them to actually get here to go through customs. But they're moving away from that. But the entire world is really moving away from that. It's going
Starting point is 01:08:05 more towards services. Remember like Apple now is like, they're like, crud, we're not making as much money on phones anymore. Now they're looking at opening up like, you know, like Apple TV, doing stuff like that, other services. It's moving in tech services. That's the direction. And China saw this coming from a lot. Why do you think they're trying to expand their 5G network all over the world? Because they want to be the ones dominating that. So do you want the country to dominate the flow of information all over the world? And this is what this is what this is really about. The flow of information all over the world. This is the same country that is doing a social credit system amongst their citizens. It's the biggest police state in the world right now.
Starting point is 01:08:42 It's the biggest slave. It's the biggest slave state in the world right now. Right. It is, it's an abomination. It is, this is the situation that in a hundred years from now, our great-grandchildren will all say, you know what? Our great-grandfathers and grandmothers, they were just awful people. They didn't care about the slaves in China. They did nothing about it. we're dealing exactly with the same kind of things that our founders were dealing with, and they looked at business and said, well, it'll work itself out. Let's just go to war when we have to. Let's do these things that we have to do, and it'll work itself out.
Starting point is 01:09:25 It will work itself out. And I think with China, it's going to work itself out with war. Yeah, you can't look at company. Like I've heard a lot of people say, look, they're just tech companies in China and they're competing. You cannot look at tech companies in China versus the same as like tech companies in the rest of the world, especially not here in the United States. Let's take, for instance, Huawei. So Huawei, we delivered a huge blow to Huawei. They're trying, they're leading the push on 5G right now.
Starting point is 01:09:50 The Trump administration just said, look, any U.S. company cannot do business with Huawei, which is a huge deal for Huawei because their phones, which is probably the number two largest phone company in the world now. They all use Google. So now they can't use Google anymore. So they're like, oh, crud, what do we do? They're also making a push to lead in, like, laptop and computer production. Now they can't use Microsoft. So now they're kind of screwed. Now, the history of Huawei is pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And this kind of goes into how these Chinese companies operate. The only reason Huawei is a thing right now is because they stole the source code from U.S. companies that moved into China right after, you know, their introduction into the World Trade Organization. They stole the source code, stole the source code, then copied whatever, all the other technology, you know, all the other, you know, like how to build certain phones and stuff from, from U.S. companies. Then they created a clone company of U.S. companies. That person, their CEO, was a former intelligence guy in the People's Republic of China military.
Starting point is 01:10:52 His job was to procure technology. That was his entire job. Then he becomes the CEO. He was also a Communist Party member. Now, this is the guy that stole the source code now has the second largest phone company in the world. If you're a flagship company in China, there is a flagship company. there is an official communist party office
Starting point is 01:11:08 located right next to the CEO's office basically. They're co-located with the company. Huawei is China, Chinese government. The CCP, the China... Chinese Communist Party. That's them. All their flagship companies are the same way. So if you're looking at, well, this is just Huawei
Starting point is 01:11:24 trying to, like, you know, dominate 5G. No, it's the Chinese Communist Party in China. It's China 2025, which was a communist goal set out in 2006, somewhere in that area, of where China would be at China 2025. In the year 2025, we are going to dominate the world and the world's information. And Donald Trump is putting a stop to it with this trade war. It's the only thing that makes sense because of the moves we're making.
Starting point is 01:12:00 It's the only thing that makes sense because people like Larry Kudlow and, uh, and, um, uh, uh, more, Stephen Moore, are for this. And when I've talked to Stephen Moore, he has said, China's different. And, and he's right. China is different. This is, this is you. I flip flopped as you know probably stew on this multiple times. Because I just don't know, like, I am against tariffs as well.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah. But when you think about China, it's a different animal. Like, I don't know how else are you going on. What other level are you going to have to stop them taking all of our stuff? It's interesting, though. Why is the answer to them stealing our technology a tax on us? Why do we get, we have to pay the penalty for the transfer of technology to them?
Starting point is 01:12:46 Because that seems like something they're doing wrong. It's not something that I'm doing wrong, yet I'm the one that has to pay off the higher prices. Right, but I don't think you can stop this with the American corporations because they want that, they'll sell their country out. We know that. Facebook, Google. they'll sell us out in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:13:05 They don't care. And they're already working with China on really bad things. So for the country to say, we have a trade war. And oh, by the way, you cannot do business with this company, this company, this company. That's the next level. This level is, oh, Apple, you want to do that? Okay, go ahead. It's going to cost you 25% more.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And so they do pass it on to us. But I think hitting these corporations where they live on the bottom line, is the only way you're going to get them to untangle from China. The Huawei situation seems to be a more direct way of addressing this, though, right? I mean, like, they're going after them because they've done, they've committed what we view as, you know, international crimes, basically. In some cases, almost acts of war. I mean, it's really serious.
Starting point is 01:13:54 But, like, to add, because of those types of things, to add a 20, 25% tax that I have to pay on goods from many times companies completely unrelated to them is a is a is a it's a very indirect broad sort of like blunt force thing that punishes American citizens uh for crimes that China commits so here's what I think actually happen Larry Cudlow Stephen Moore uh and John Bolton they all know they all know what China really is does Donald Trump know what China really is I don't know. I don't know. I think he takes that he knows they're a serious threat. He knows there a serious threat. Is he the architect of this? No, I think what he's the architect of is a trade war. He loves tariffs. And so the people in the administration that he surrounded himself with said, okay, you know
Starting point is 01:14:48 what? There's some good that we can make happen out of these tariffs because nobody's been willing to take them on. He'll take them on under the guise of tariffs. So let's solve the Huawei. stuff. Let's solve some of these things by using tariffs. I think it was their way in using something that Donald Trump understands how to use and really loves. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, I think they're making the best of a situation. I think so too. They don't prefer. Right. But it's not just, you know, Larry Kudlow is very friendly to free trade economics. Correct. It's been that way for a long time. But the people he has like Wilbur Ross and Lighthizer and, I mean, these people are not, they're the exact opposite. I mean, they don't
Starting point is 01:15:29 want to do this whether China is good or bad, which is why you saw, you know, tons of our, our allies getting hit with these big tariffs as well. This is not just a China situation. It's a broad strategy by the president, but which, by the way, he ran on. I mean, it was, it was a big, you know, big priority. What were some of the things that we were told off air by people who were very pro-Trump during the election? I'm glad I want you to know. I got several calls like this from people. I am not for Trump. I just want you to. know. I am with you 100% away, but I am not going down the road. You're going down because somebody has to be in his inner circle because we have to be able to use the things that he believes in
Starting point is 01:16:12 and his bully pulpit and move us in the right direction. And with that, not an usurping sort of way, exactly what Larry Cudlow said. He talked to the president and was like, no, I'm not, I wouldn't join you because you're for trade, trade war. Then he said something to him for, 20 minutes and Larry was like, I'm in. What could that have been? Larry, this is what I want. What do you want? Well, I think China's a danger.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Good. Do those things. I want this done. I want a better deal with China. You want to hurt China in this way and get that done. I think we can do both. To me, that's what would make somebody like Larry Kudlow go. I'm on board with your trade war.
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Starting point is 01:18:51 But is he going to say anything else about what people are saying about the report and Attorney General Barr? It's something that has been called by the Justice Department. so he's at the Justice Department making this statement. There will be no questions that he'll be fielding afterwards. But we'll hear his speech in one minute. Stand by. This is the Glenn Beck program. Right now is the time to get a new home because interest rates are extremely low right now,
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Starting point is 01:20:11 800906 2440, American financing. dot net. American Financing Corporation, NMLS-182334, www.m.ls, consumer access.org. All right, let's go right to Robert Mueller, who is talking about... Good morning, everyone, and thank you for being here. Two years ago, the acting attorney general, asked me to serve as special counsel, and he created the special counsel's office.
Starting point is 01:20:43 The appointment order directed the office to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. This included investigating any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign. Now, I have not spoken publicly during our investigation. I'm speaking out today because our investigation is complete. The Attorney General has made the report on our investigation largely public. We are formally closing the special counsel's office, and as well, I'm resigning from the Department of Justice to return to private life. It's not a surprise, by the way.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I'll make a few remarks about the results of our work. But beyond these few remarks, it is important that the offices written work speak for itself. Let me begin where the appointment order begins, and that is interference in the 2016 presidential election. As alleged by the grand jury in an indictment, Russian intelligence officers who were part of the Russian military launched a concerted attack on our political system. The indictment alleges that they use sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into
Starting point is 01:22:06 computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information and then released that information through fake, online identities, and through the organization WikiLeaks. The releases were designed and timed to interfere with our election and to damage a presidential candidate. And at the same time, as the grand jury alleged in a separate indictment, a private Russian entity engaged in a social media operation where Russian citizens posed as Americans in order to influence an election. These indictments contain allegations, and we are not commenting on the guilt or the innocence of any specific defendant. Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. The indictments allege and the other activities in our report describe
Starting point is 01:23:05 efforts to interfere in our political system. They needed to be investigated and understood, and that is among the reasons why the Department of Justice established our office. That is also a reason we investigated efforts to obstruct the investigation. The matters we investigated were of paramount importance. It was critical for us to obtain full and accurate information
Starting point is 01:23:31 from every person we questioned. When a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of their government's effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. Let me say a word about the report. The report has two parts, addressing the two main issues we were asked to investigate. The first volume of the report details numerous efforts emanating from Russia. to influence the election. This volume includes a discussion of the Trump campaign's response to this activity, as well as our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And in the second volume, the report describes the results and analysis of our obstruction of justice investigation involving the president. The order appointing me special counsel authorized, us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation. We conducted that investigation and we kept the office of the acting Attorney General apprised of the progress of our work. And as set forth in the report after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the President did commit a crime. crime. The introduction to the volume two of our report explains that decision. It explains that
Starting point is 01:25:11 under long-standing department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited. The special counsel's office is part of the Department of justice and by regulation it was bound by that department policy. Charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider. The department's written opinion explaining the policy makes several important points that further informed our handling of the obstruction investigation. Those points are summarized in our report and I will describe two of them for you.
Starting point is 01:26:02 the opinion explicitly permits the investigation of a sitting president because it is important to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents available. Among other things, that evidence could be used if there were co-conspirators
Starting point is 01:26:19 who could be charged now. And second, the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. And beyond department policy, we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially, it would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime
Starting point is 01:26:47 when there can be no court resolution of the actual charge. So that was Justice Department policy. Those were the principles under which we operated. And from them, we concluded that we would not reach a determination one way or the other about whether the president committed a crime. That is the office's final position, and we will not comment on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the president. We conducted an independent criminal investigation and reported the results to the Attorney General, as required by department regulations. The Attorney General then concluded that it was appropriate to provide our report to Congress and to the American people. At one point in time, I requested that certain portions of the report be released. The Attorney
Starting point is 01:27:42 General preferred to make the entire report public all at once. And we appreciate that the Attorney General made the report largely public, and I certainly do not question the Attorney General's good faith in that decision. Now, I hope and expect this to be the only time that I will speak to you in this manner. I am making that decision myself. No one has told me whether I can or should testify or speak further about this matter. There has been discussion about an appearance before Congress. Any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report.
Starting point is 01:28:23 It contains our findings and analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made. We chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself. And the report is my testimony. I would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before Congress. In addition, access to our underlying work product is being decided in a process that does not involve our office. So beyond what I have said here today and what is contained in our work. written work, I do not believe it is appropriate for me to speak further about the investigation
Starting point is 01:29:04 or to comment on the actions of the Justice Department or Congress. And as for that reason, I will not be taking questions today as well. Now before I step away, I want to thank the attorneys, the FBI agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. These individuals who spent nearly two years with the special counsel's office were of the highest integrity. And I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. And that allegation deserves the attention of every American. Thank you. Thank you for being here today.
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Starting point is 01:31:15 Let me just recap here quickly. WikiLeaks tried to influence. Russia tried to influence. They timed the releases and hacked into things and released it to influence our election. Private businesses in Russia also tried to influence. They did interfere. However, we also looked into obstruction because anybody who is trying to obstruct, us looking into were our elections free and fair we needed to look into so if there was an accusation
Starting point is 01:31:49 we looked into it he says part one of his report was about the numerous attempts that did happen by russia but there was insufficient evidence to prove a crime when it came to the president or anyone around the president he said if we would have if we would have known for sure that the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so. Now, he didn't say, if he did commit a crime, we would have said so, because what followed, I thought, was really interesting. He said it would be inappropriate and it would be a process beyond justice if we accused and no court could try. So he said it would be wrong and unjust if we made an accusation that, yeah, we think this guy committed a crime, but no court could try it because he's the president of the United States and it's unconstitutional, he said, to charge a president with a crime, a sitting president.
Starting point is 01:32:58 So he said, we couldn't charge him with a crime if we found a crime. Now, he didn't say they found a crime, but he also said that they didn't find him innocent of any crime. So you're kind of left in this middle ground. And what he's saying here is there's another judge and jury. And that judge and jury is the American people through the impeachment process because we can't go through the justice department. We did what we were supposed to do. and I have nothing further to say on this. There's nothing that we're hiding.
Starting point is 01:33:38 There's nothing that the AG has held back. He endorsed Bob Barr saying he thought he was fair. I do not question Bob Barr. And he said, my testimony, any testimony from anybody on my team, including me, will not go further than the report that is already public. So you're kind of left. with, well, wait, you didn't find anything. But you're kind of saying that if there was something, we wouldn't have, we wouldn't
Starting point is 01:34:18 have said we should, it's a crime because it's unjust to accuse him of a crime. So was there a crime? Yeah, because I think what the media is going to take out of that section, which I think was one of the most important sections, is him saying, look, we were. prevented from charging him. However, you do have a way to follow up on this. Yes. And the media is going to translate that as him basically giving a roadmap to what Congress should do next, which is impeachment. That is what I think people are going to take that in the media and on the left. But my question is, you impeach him. You just had a grand jury. And so,
Starting point is 01:34:53 you know, when a grand jury does an investigation, and they do all of this, you issue an indictment. This person committed a crime because of these things. Well, he's just said, there's no other information for us to give. We've given you all information. Well, we've all read that information with an exception of just a few tidbits that don't seem like they're bombshells, okay, hidden behind those black bars. They're just names to protect. It's a lot of Roger Stone stuff, basically. Correct.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Okay. So he's sending two signals. One, there is a way, if you think the president committed a crime, you have to do. it through impeachment. But two, if you're going to interview any of us on the team, we're all going to say the same thing. Everything we have is in that report. Well, there is this weird line in there of if we, if he had committed a crime, we
Starting point is 01:35:53 couldn't have said anything. And if we knew he didn't commit a crime, was it? What did he say in the report? if he if he if we if he was innocent and we would have said so we would have said so basically if we could have proved his innocence right but like you said on the other hand if he would have been guilty we we wouldn't have said so right so it kind of helps nobody it helps nobody because and it certainly doesn't help trump because if we have all of the information well then where is the crime what is the crime right what they're saying is the he there's a way to take this right and
Starting point is 01:36:29 I think the left will take it this way. Certainly the Akazio-Cortez's of the world will take it this way, which is saying he can't say that there's a crime that has been committed. However, he believes there is a crime that has been committed and you should go and impeach him for it because that's the only way he can be punished for that crime. But what is the crime? Well, he's saying it's all, he's saying it's all there. this is a crime where did you see it you read the report and to be clear I don't I'm not saying this but I'm saying the left will be making this argument which is there are a lot of examples of things that we could say were obstruction of justice you know the you know
Starting point is 01:37:02 you know him asking for Mueller to be fired and and and I mean I know I know I know you can look at it that way and I mean I think it's no smoking gun this is this is something that if, you know, I read it, if this is all the information, which he just said, we have no other information, it's all out there. It's all out there.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Okay, well, it's all out there. Well, I don't see anything that is a smoking gun. You could look at certain things that go, yeah, that was not good. And that probably was maybe that skirt. But there's no smoking gun on anything. And so what you're doing now is saying, we couldn't process. and bring to a court of law. But I honestly don't see, even if you could, we've all now seen all of the information.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Right. And I don't, I wouldn't, if I'm a attorney general, I'm not bringing that to a courtroom. No, I even if a constitutionally I could. I don't think you have a strong enough case. You know, beyond a reasonable doubt, no way. Democrats won't mind that, though. No. They'll do it anyway.
Starting point is 01:38:12 No, I know. Because of their sheer hatred for him. But I think they will pay a heavier price for it. It's possible. I mean, I think there's a good argument to be made, though, on the other side is what Mueller is basically saying with his press conference is, look, I did my job. I got nothing else for you. Leave me alone. Yeah, he is saying that.
Starting point is 01:38:28 You see what's sitting there. If you think it's enough, go for impeachment. But stop bugging me. Yeah. I think that's exactly what he said. A fair reading of where he is. And that's probably why he did this press conference today. I will say the bar thing was maybe the biggest moment in there because Mueller's saying that.
Starting point is 01:38:44 He believes Barr was acting in good faith with what he did with the letter is a huge part of the story. Because the main point of evidence that the Democrats had against Barr was to say that Mueller wrote this letter. And he said, I want you to release more. And you're not doing this. And they tried to make it out like Mueller was really pissed off. As you see in that press conference, Mueller is telling you he's not pissed off about it. Quote, I do not question Bob Barr. That's big.
Starting point is 01:39:11 That's huge. Huge. The problem is, after two years, we want to. something definitive. Yeah. Give us definitive. And we just don't have it. And we have definitive on the collusion.
Starting point is 01:39:23 On collusion. Yes. And we have. And that would have been the crime. Right. And we have definitive on Russia and WikiLeaks. We have all this evidence. There's no evidence.
Starting point is 01:39:34 There's just this like, well, maybe, I don't know. I guess you could read it that way. You don't put people in jail for that. And you don't take away the presidency for that. There's no smoking gun, as he said. Everything that we had to say and we found is out. You know it all. You're listening to Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 01:41:29 One they generally are on is there was insufficient evidence to charge broader conspiracy. But they have gone through several different things that Mueller said. not having the sound up on either of them because we're in the studio, you kind of just have to get the gist from what, you know, each is saying by what they're putting up on the screen. Fox News seems to be reporting a more positive, but a more thorough look at what Mueller said. The only,
Starting point is 01:42:04 the only banner that I have seen on CNN is this. Mueller, quote, if we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so, end quote. So that's what the media is going to hang their hat on. And that was in the Mueller report. Right. It's just a quote from the Mueller report, which is the same quote that they used constantly right after it came out. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:28 So the conversation is not going to change, but it should. And here's what it should change to. And I want to have an adult, nonpartisan, constitutional conversation. And that is, here's, if we looked at this as history and we said, all right, you've read the Mueller report on Harry Truman. And we take Trump and Obama and everybody else out of it. And we're talking about Harry Truman.
Starting point is 01:42:58 This is what the report said. And this is what the opposition and the supporters were saying, dismiss opposition and dismiss supporters right now as just knowing. noise, look just at the report and what he just said. Well, what he just said was there's nothing hinky going on in the Justice Department. There's no cover up and nobody's telling me or anybody else what to say. The attorney general is on the up and up. He's a good man.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I trust him. I want to get this exactly right. I do not question Bob Barr. That's huge. Huge. It's huge that he said, everything that was supposed to be released has been released. You have all of the information. Nobody's telling me to say these things.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Nobody's telling me what not to say. I'm telling you now, you can have us testify, but there's nothing else I'm going to say. My testimony is that report. I have nothing else. Everything I wanted to say is in it. now that's the good news the bad news is again if we were just talking about harry truman what this report does is it does say that one line if we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said so but he also came out and he said
Starting point is 01:44:27 if we would have charged him with a crime it would have been unjust because we can't charge a sitting president with a crime There are other ways to deal with that because he's the president, but the court of law and charging someone with a crime that they can never go to court and clear their name of, meaning there's a chance he's innocent, right? And he deserves his day in court. So we can't say that he committed a crime because he cannot have a day in court. So that leads you to understand that there is something in the report.
Starting point is 01:45:09 And all of it is out. So we can have an adult conversation. That won't happen on TV. But we can have an adult conversation. Wait a minute. Let's go back and look at that report. Because if memory serves me correctly, there are a couple of places where they said, we investigated this and there was no crime.
Starting point is 01:45:29 We investigated this and there was no crime. We investigated this. And we also investigated this. And then we investigated this and there was no crime. Wait a minute. what were those last two? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:41 But there is no smoking gun or the media would have been all over it already. There is no more information than what is in this report. So we already know we have to go back and look at it. Now, those smoking guns is the media will say, well, we got something. And the Democrats are going to say, well, he was saying we should impeach. No, he's saying, if you find that there is a number, to charge him with a high crime or misdemeanor. All of the evidence, there is nothing else.
Starting point is 01:46:15 All of it is in that report. So you're not going to find anything else. If you find a smoking gun, well, then you should impeach. Well, if there was a smoking gun in that report, wouldn't we have already been talking about it? What they've been talking about lately is something that he is denying that Bob Barr is shutting down this. investigation, that he was in a way obstructing justice, that he was lying about what Mueller was saying. Well, Mueller is saying no.
Starting point is 01:46:47 So they've played their strongest card from the Mueller report. And that was, there's more to it. Well, Mueller has just come out and said, I want you to know, no one's telling me anything. In fact, I trust the attorney general. And I think he's acted honorably. There is nothing else. There is nothing else. So what we have to do as adults is go back and look back at the Mueller report.
Starting point is 01:47:15 And what were those couple, two or three places where they didn't say there was not a crime there? Probably the biggest one is the attempt by the president to try to get, to get Don McGahn, the attorney, to deny that the president had ordered him to have Mueller fired. Okay. So Trump calls McGahn and says fire Bob Mueller. And McGahn says no. Then the story leaks that that's happening. And Trump goes back to McGahn and says, release a statement saying that I didn't tell you to fire him. Okay. And that is essentially the accusation to prevent further scrutiny he wanted McGahn to lie to the press about this. But the president came out when he fired Mueller, or when he fired, well, what's his name? Comey? Yeah, Comey. That was the first time.
Starting point is 01:48:16 And he came out and said, yeah, I fired him because of this. When he's doing this with Mueller and trying to fire Mueller, he clearly can. Yep. He just like Comey, he's the president. That guy works for the president. It looks bad, but he can. There is part of this that is. is you can't always fire people to protect yourself.
Starting point is 01:48:37 I mean, there is precedent for that. But if you look at this, the way that Mueller report is broken out, if you haven't read it, and I hope you have enough of a life to not have read it. You let us do that. Yeah. They have basically 10 things in there that they think could have been obstruction of justice. And each one has to hit, it has to clear all three hurdles. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Here are the hurdles. It has to be an obstructive act. Okay. They have to do something, obviously. Number two, it can't just be an obstructive. Act. Number two, it also has to have a nexus to an official proceeding. So basically, it has to do with an it can't just be like a, you know, something with the press. It has something to do with an official court proceeding. You're trying to get in the way of the investigation in some way. And then third is
Starting point is 01:49:20 intent. Your intent has to be to hide to actually obstruct. It can't just be something that wound up obstructing, but you didn't mean it to. So in this particular case, it's very easy to see Donald Trump as a guy, and we all know this, if you are against Donald Trump, he hates your guts and he wants you dead. Whether he did something or not, whether it's justified or not, he doesn't want you around, okay?
Starting point is 01:49:48 And so you can easily see him saying, I am so sick of this Mueller stuff, just fire the guy. I want you to fire him. His intent may not have been to obstruct justice. Right. It was, I'm sick of this guy. And that's what's interesting about this.
Starting point is 01:50:03 particular incidents because they have throughout this, they go through all 10 and they apply those three standards to each one of the accusations. In almost all of them, one of the hurdles they basically tell you is not cleared. Like he didn't have the intent or he didn't have a nexus to an official court proceeding, right? There's always one of them at least. Usually on all of these, they found something on one of the three standards, but they couldn't get all three.
Starting point is 01:50:30 And to make it official, to make it a real charge, they need to get all three of those things. This McGahn one, they basically tell you they have all three. They basically go through this and say, yes, we do think there was an obstructive act. Yes, there was tied to an official court proceeding. Yes, he had the intent to try to hide it. Like, and they, and, you know, it's a little bit more nuanced than this. They present some evidence on his behalf as well. Like, for example, and again, this, if you remember the, uh, the definition of is, right? Trump's case is not that he said he was going to fire him, he said he wanted to get
Starting point is 01:51:06 to get rid of him. Now those are two different, I mean, they seem to say the same type of thing, but there's a little more wiggle room in the get rid of him. What does that mean exactly? How does that work?
Starting point is 01:51:18 Is there a conditional part to that? But I mean, that's one of his defenses here is basically, I never said the word fire. I never said the word fire. That's why it was an obstruction to get him again to come out and say I didn't say it. Because I said, get rid of it.
Starting point is 01:51:31 So I'm not trying to I'm not trying to mislead people by saying I never called McGahn. I'm just, I tried to call McGahn to say, come out with a statement that said, I never said, I never said fire. Because I didn't say fire. I said, get rid of him. And so, like, that's a type of line. And they present that as a case, as a part of the argument in his positive.
Starting point is 01:51:50 However, they also give evidence on the other side of that as well. Well, it's a definition of is. It's a bit of a wording game. But they are saying that, okay, well, here's what he says. And maybe you believe that. that here's why we don't necessarily believe it. Right. But this is something that is in, in my opinion, is in the gray area of definition of
Starting point is 01:52:12 is, okay? But that's not something that conservatives have typically wanted us the standard. No, no, wait, wait. I'm not taking a side on either side. I'm just saying if you're going to impeach somebody, you want clear cut. You want clear cut. That's a standard I think is appropriate. Correct.
Starting point is 01:52:31 And it could be a smallish crime, but you want it clear cut. He did this because of this. The problem with this is they looked at all of these places where he could have obstructed, and he didn't. In a lot of them. Right. So there's no real pattern of obstruction. There is just his solar flare of, I want this guy out of here. It seems to be there were some moments of anger, sometimes connected.
Starting point is 01:53:01 to an official act, which doesn't excuse you for what you're doing that situation. I think it's a good argument for Trump as a person because when he has, and he has these moments of anger and sometimes he flies off the handle, but generally speaking in here,
Starting point is 01:53:15 you see a lot of opportunities for him to do more where he stops it. I mean, I've made this example before with Jared Kushner. They would not give the press a thing on the documents that they wanted about this. But behind the scenes, he was telling Kushner, whatever they want, just give it to him. Like, I mean, so he gives this front
Starting point is 01:53:31 to the papers and to the press of I'm not going to give you anything. He's fighting with them. But in the background, behind the scenes, he's telling Jared Kushner give investigators whatever they want. Like, that's not a sign of someone who's constantly trying to obstruct justice. He may have had moments where he flew off the handle, and
Starting point is 01:53:47 that's what they're going after. The biggest point in this favor, in my opinion, is there's no underlying crime. Okay. Like, there was no obstruction or there was no collusion. with Russia. There wasn't. He wasn't doing what we
Starting point is 01:54:05 hoped that he wasn't doing, at least if you're an American, and you put America first. You hope the president wasn't colluding to disrupt our elections. That would be bad. Okay, that would be bad. If any of that would have come through, I would not be on the presidential bandwagon. You were colluding with a foreign entity, an enemy of ours, to destroy our elections, you're done. I don't care who you are. You're done. There was none of that. None of that. So he's obstructing justice for what reason. So they don't get down to there is no evidence of things? I think a lot of times it's just him fighting with the press. Yeah, exactly right. He thinks that this, and he has good reason to, that this is a setup that the press is just coming after him. I think if you look at this as Harry Truman, I
Starting point is 01:55:01 I think that's where history would have ended up if this would have happened to Harry Truman. No, he was, there wasn't an original crime. And so, yeah, they say that it's not the crime. It's the cover up. No, not really. Not with him because he wasn't covering things up. He was giving information to the investigators. Give him, Jared, give him whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:55:23 So he was saying, we're not doing anything. But he had these moments where he's like, this is ridiculous. That's a fair, reading of it? I think that's a totally fair reading of it. And the American people are fair. The press isn't. The Democrats will not be. And let's be honest. If this were
Starting point is 01:55:40 Barack Obama, our side probably wouldn't be honest either and give him the benefit of the doubt. They're going to do what he has to do. Just keep doing what you're supposed to do. And the one thing the president needs to do
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