The Glenn Beck Program - CONCERNING: Why Are Democrats Urging Military to DEFY Trump? | 11/19/25
Episode Date: November 19, 2025President Trump is poised to authorize CIA plans for covert action in Venezuela. At the same time, a group of Democrats put out a video urging the military to ignore Trump's orders that they claim are... illegal. Glenn breaks down the Democrats' real motive for the video. Stu and Glenn react to Democrat Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D), who was texting with Epstein during a congressional hearing, somehow avoiding censure. Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) made a big move yesterday by designating the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council on American-Islamic Relations as terrorist organizations. Glenn breaks down the history of these groups and why this decision was long overdue. Why do leftists single out AIPAC while ignoring all the other foreign lobby organizations? Glenn and Jason dive a little deeper into the capabilities you'll have if you subscribe to the Torch. Stu gives the full story of journalist Olivia Nuzzi and her current scandal. Glenn plays another preview of his exclusive interview with Cracker Barrel executives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How you doing?
Glenn, I'm good.
I'm good.
It's a big day.
Lots of stuff going on.
I'm ready for the show.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's start with Venezuela.
The New York Times is now reporting that Trump has been said to authorize CIA plans for covert covert action in Venezuela.
Now, when I read this story, I thought to myself, didn't I read this story about three or four weeks ago?
I think this is the exact story.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you remember it?
I think this is the exact story that the New York Times or somebody else came out with about four weeks ago.
We have Jason here who watches, you know, this kind of stuff.
Am I right in thinking that, Jason?
Just heard this.
Right?
Three or four weeks ago or a month ago, something like that.
Yeah, right.
Just heard.
There's nothing new here.
So what exactly is the New York Times doing?
They're parroting what they were slipped from their unnamed source.
imagine that so what do you mean they were slipped from an unnamed source what do you mean by
that there's no way this is a leak like oh we got to get this out because it's like atrocious
what's happening they were this is approved yeah this is this is something that uh this is something
that you're seeing the deep state in action somebody wants to make sure that this is uh that this
is circled around. So everybody's like, oh my gosh, what are we doing in Venezuela? What are we
doing in Venezuela? We've already told you what we're doing in Venezuela. This is to secure the
Western Hemisphere, to get China out of the Western Hemisphere. This has everything to do with
that little training island that we told you about a year or two ago, where Hamas and
Hezbollah are training people in Venezuela just off the coast. That's what
this is about. This is to stop the infiltration of the Islamic radicals in cahoots with Maduro in Venezuela.
That's what this is about. And the Chinese are an extra added benefit. You know, don't believe the,
you know, well, it's the drugs. I mean, if it was a drug thing, we would also be going after Mexico.
I mean, not that that doesn't play a role, but it's only part of the story. And we've told you that.
and now, you know,
Trump authorizing plans for the CIA.
Yeah, we know that.
You said that to us long ago.
Now, at the same time that is happening,
there was a video that was released from the Democrats.
Now, these are Democrats that are currently, you know, in power,
big-name Democrats,
and listen to what they're telling the troops and intel officers.
Listen to this.
I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.
Senator Mark Kelly.
Representative Chris DeLuzio.
Congressman Maggie Goodlander.
Representative Chrissie Houlihan.
Congressman Jason Crow.
I was a captain in the United States Navy.
Former CIA officer.
Former Navy.
Former paratrooper and Army Ranger.
Former intelligence officer.
Former Air Force.
We want to speak directly to members of the military
and the intelligence community
who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.
We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.
Americans trust their military.
But that trust is that
risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence
community professionals against American citizens. Like us, you all swore an oath.
To protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our
Constitution aren't just coming from abroad but from right here at home. Our laws are
clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders. You must
refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our
Constitution. We know this is hard.
and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving in the CIA,
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Hmm.
So I'm looking at this and I'm thinking,
I agree 100% with everything they just said.
100%. My question is, why are they saying it? What illegal orders? And why now? Are you telling me that
all of the stuff with USAID, all of the stuff that was going on with the FBI, with our intelligence
community, with Russia, Russia, Russia, all of that stuff was on the up and up. They had no concern
about that. When Barack Obama was targeting U.S. citizens to be droned, U.S. citizens to be
be droned. They had no problem with it. And now all of a sudden, because of what? Venezuela?
Now all of a sudden they have a problem. No, I don't think so. I think this is a, this is,
this is the beginning of a campaign. And again, all it does is sow seeds of doubt, not in the mind
of the military, not in the mind of, well, maybe CIA, but I think CIA is off on their own
territory anyway. This sows the seed of doubt in the mind of the average American. They're now
sowing the seed saying Donald Trump is doing something unconstitutional with our military.
What is it? Speak clearly. Don't say we're under pressure. Speak clearly. What exactly is he doing
that is unconstitutional that they should disobey? I'd like to know what it is. Because all this is doing
is undermining. Is it Venezuela? Like did they state, you know? No, they didn't say that. It's just,
just generalized advice. Whatever you do, don't, like, it's, that seems really sketchy, because we
were talking about this a little bit off the air and that, like, there's a version of that that's, like,
treasonous, right? Like, you're telling the, the military to not listen to the commander in chief.
Now, that's, I don't think that was the version of it that is treasonous. I think that was worded very
carefully and as you point out like I don't think anyone would disagree that if you there's something
blatantly illegal you shouldn't be doing it but I guess their idea is some of these is it maybe
Venezuela are they trying to encourage these people to not drone the ships like what are the
what is the what's the ask here they didn't mention I don't know they're just they're just sending
out that's why this seems so unbelievably calculated to cause
chaos because they're not
sowing seeds in the doubt of the
minds of the military. They are
sowing the seeds of doubt in the mind
of the U.S. public.
This went out to everybody in the
whole world. And what it is
sending is a message to the whole
world. Our president
is so bad that
we in Congress need to
tell the military
do not obey him.
Well,
can you be specific on
what exactly. On what exactly? No, they can't be specific. If you could be specific, I would have
no problem. If you came out with that message and you said, look, we just want to restate the
policy of the United States. Whether the president is a Republican or a Democrat,
you do not have to obey the commander of chief if he is asking for things that are unconstitutional.
For instance, if he asks you to do X, Y, or Z, they're not just talking about as well as the military.
What's intriguing to me is they're also including the CIA.
Who in their right mind today thinks the CIA is under control?
Who in their right mind thinks the CIA is actually living within the constitutional bounds?
Because I don't.
Do you?
Do you know anybody who thinks that?
left or right? Does anybody would in a sound of my voice think that the CIA is actually
contained and living in its own little space constitutionally where it should be?
Does anyone actually believe that they answer to Congress?
Does I don't? Do you still? Do you, Jason?
I think the establishment of the CIA is actually anti-constitutional.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think that an organization like the CIA can operate within the bounds of disclosure, with, you know, letting Congress know everything that they're doing.
It can't operate that way.
So I think all too many times they understand that and they just do whatever the heck they want to do.
It's all black ops.
It's all black ops stuff.
And, you know, look at what, where we're.
was this message when we found out from what was the guy who blew the whistle and went to Russia?
What was his name?
Snowden.
Snowden.
Where was this message with Snowden?
When that came out, hey, if you're in the NSA, you're in the CIA, you can't be doing
this stuff.
So blow the whistle.
Where was that?
Where has this been, this message had been when any of the whistleblowers have come out?
Where is this with the whistleblowers that are coming out today about what the CIA has been doing?
What the intelligence community has been involved in?
Where was this message?
This is not an honest message.
That's the problem with this.
This is not an honest message.
This is part of color revolution.
I'm convinced of it.
This is just sow the seeds of doubt.
Make sure that you are positioning the president as somebody who is so,
radical and so unconstitutional that they have to tell the military not to obey his orders
without any specifics whatsoever. That's pretty remarkable. Because again, I don't have a problem
with saying that we're one of the only countries. You do not answer to the president of the
United States. You do not answer to your general. You answer to the Constitution of the United
States. That's absolutely true. So, I
I have no problem with this message being taught.
It should be taught by every single president.
President.
But it's not.
They have seen so many abuses under their rule,
and now all of a sudden, you get this?
Where was this message when the president used the military as a prop
behind him in the speech where it was blood red,
and Biden was saying,
These are enemies of the state.
You can't do that with the military.
Where was this message from anyone?
Hey, you cannot be used as a prop behind the president.
You cannot do that.
I didn't hear anybody saying that because they don't have a problem with it.
If it's their side, they don't have a problem with it.
I have a problem with it on both sides.
I want the military and I want the military.
Let me separate these.
I want the military to know.
We have your back.
If the president, any president,
is ordering you to do things that are unconstitutional,
do not do them.
Do not do them.
Blow the whistle and the American people should have your back.
I know I will have your back.
To the intelligence community,
you better stop doing what you're doing.
Because I know the American people,
and I don't know if you can be stopped.
But I know the American people know that you're doing things that you should not be doing and you've been doing them under every president for God only knows how long.
Stop doing it.
Because if we ever get into the position where we can stop you, we will.
And the American people will demand a trial for every single one of you that was breaking the Constitution.
Don't care who ordered you to do it.
It's your responsibility to say no.
And you haven't.
haven't start saying no to any president any boss anybody who is telling you to violate the
u.s. constitution don't do it don't do it but i don't think that's the reason why they're saying
it now and they know this because all of them are veterans of the military or the intelligence
community they know and i've gone through these before there's already this is stating the obvious
This is already taught from the lowest enlistment rates all the way up to the top, you know, within, you know, Officer Canada school and within the military.
There are procedures, if you ever have an unlawful order, how to, you know, work through it and report it.
Stu, what do you think this is really about? What are they doing?
It feels like it's about politics, right?
I mean, it feels like they are trying to build a case that the president is continually engaging in things.
that are illegal and unconstitutional.
And like when you bring up color revolution,
I think it's, I mean, there's a political element to that.
And I think so they may very well be related.
But if you think about like, it might be about Venezuela,
but I don't think the American people really care about that story.
I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know that that's necessarily healthy that we don't care about it.
I think there are some real questions about the process here and how all of this has gone down.
But like, I almost feel like it's more related to something like, you know,
immigration enforcement, right, in the United States. And that's not, you know, because we've talked
about the military being involved in cracking down on cities and things of that nature, where like,
you know, we've talked about the questions around them. There are legitimate questions about
how much can be done in that realm. I wonder if they're trying to kind of set that precedent,
this sort of tone that the president is engaging in these things and slowly over time you can
build to not only a political answer, but, you know, maybe the color revolution angle and also
the chaos and the streets angle. At some point, if you believe your president is doing unconstitutional
things and forcing the military of the United States to engage in actions that are unconstitutional
against the American people, you're going to get a lot of people out in the streets for that one
if this thing were to be successful. So I think that might be the path. Do you buy that?
Yeah, I do. I just think that it is, I think the main goal here is just
to undermine credibility, just undermine and tear us apart even more.
Undermine credibility, sow the seeds of chaos once again.
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You could hear it.
You could hear it.
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Again.
We should, to be clear, we should excommunicate him out of our society because he wore a red hat a few times.
That, I think, is a smart move.
What a dummy.
Yeah, he's an idiot.
And obviously, we don't need him help in our country right now.
Why?
Because he voted for lower taxes or something.
That's a good way to run a society.
Hate that guy.
Yeah.
Hate that guy.
Amazing.
What a dope.
We have just become morons.
Really, we really have.
The history is going to look back and go, at one point they just became morons, you know.
Do you find it interesting, Glenn, he was at this dinner with the Saudi Arabian, you know, delegation, I guess.
Trump did a dinner and invited a bunch of, you know, VIPs to it.
I thought a good sign from the perspective of the relationship between Trump and Elon Musk that he was invited.
was there, right? Like, I mean, remember, they were, had a total falling out. It was over the Epstein
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that's, that's, you think, totally repaired, or at least somewhat repaired at this point. Yeah,
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There's nobody.
Is there anybody in the world that
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I don't know, pilled,
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I mean, even when he was, you know,
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You know what I mean? Be great.
This is this is this a guy who will be remembered for hundreds of years after Jesus comes.
Well, we may not have history books at that point.
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So, I mean, who doesn't want to meet that guy?
How is it that we have half our country now just hate?
on that guy.
It's genius.
Would you be happier if he were Chinese?
Thank God.
He's here and wants to be here, right?
You know, and wants to be in this environment.
I think that, you know, you look at everything.
It's going to be a great biopic.
Like the movie on Elon Musk's life is going to be absolutely incredible because he is a
somewhat complicated figure at times.
There's a lot to discuss the Elon Musk front.
But like, just think of the first.
fact that this guy has put, I don't know, you know, hundreds of thousands, millions of cars on
the road right now that are, you know, capable and are driving themselves.
I mean, think of, that's like an incredible accomplishment. This is a guy who's putting
cars that are, you know, you have full self-driving. You can sit in there. The thing will drive
itself from point A to point B without you touching really anything. And that is, think about
the fact that that's just being said, that even people are allowed, you know, that governments are
just like, yeah, I guess we trust this guy to let all these cars drive themselves. Like,
and it's an amazing accomplishment. That's just one of many. It really is an amazing life.
Now, let me tell you about the Epstein files. They voted the House voted and then the Senate voted,
and I don't think the president has signed it yet, but he should. He should sign it this morning.
Just get it done to release all of the Epstein files.
and you know it's it's pretty amazing to me that
here's the worst part of this thing
as they're discussing all of the parts of the Epstein files
they decide that they are they make a deal in the back room
not to go after we won't investigate Corey Mills
you don't investigate what's her name that was
you know texting Plaskett
Plaskett was texting with
with Epstein during the impeachment hearings.
And he's saying to her, here's what you need to ask.
And she's so clueless, she has no idea.
She thinks Rona is an acronym.
Then she thinks Rona is a last name.
And then she has no idea.
She has no idea what she's talking about.
And she's just taking her marching orders from Epstein.
And then when she says, you know, when they ask her about it,
she's like, well, I was just, I was just conversing with a constituent.
Oh.
Like, does Nancy Pelosi, does she ask questions, you know, from another constituent of hers,
you know, Charles Manson?
What are you talking about?
Constituent.
First of all, I don't think he can even vote or couldn't vote at the time.
He's probably voting now, at least in Chicago.
But, you know, before, when he was a convicted felon, he can't vote, right?
Right. So what constituent is that?
I mean, I guess technically still a constituent, but I mean, not a not a not a voting one.
Not a voting one. Yeah. Not one you should care about. I guess also one of the most notorious criminals in our society.
The fact that you take advice as to what how to question someone in a congressional hearing.
And like honestly, the Epstein part of it is almost secondary.
The fact that she was she was taking this advice blindly from anyone.
is so embarrassing.
As you point out,
she didn't even know enough
about what she was saying
in a congressional hearing
to know whether it was a name
or an acronym.
That is like,
you shouldn't take that from your best friend.
You shouldn't ask that question
until you understand
what the question is,
let alone one of the most notorious
child molesters in our nation's history.
It is a legitimately incredible story.
If you can't censure her for that,
I don't think there's any line.
Now let me switch topics to this.
Noam Chomsky.
Did you read this story?
Noam Chomsky, widely regarded as the founder of modern linguistics.
Okay?
Listen to what he said in a letter, in several letters, about Epstein.
He said, he refers to Epstein as a, quote, regular source of stimulation.
You know, if you are a guy who's known for linguistics, that's probably not the phrase you would pick, a regular source of stimulation.
I met Jeffrey Epstein half a dozen years ago.
We've been in regular context since with many long and often in-depth conversations about very wide range of topics, including our own specialities and professional work.
But a host of others, we have many shared interests, probably not something you would want.
want to put down in writing because these happened after he was known the impact of geoffrey's
limitless curiosity extensive knowledge and penetrating insights again you don't use penetrating
when you're talking about ebstein maybe that's just me so you've got now noam chomsky who is
budding up with him you have a keem jeffreys now soliciting donations from epstein asked him to
meet with Obama. This again is after he has been deemed a sex criminal. Uh, and you have
Hakeem asking, hey, can we get some money from you? Then you also have, as we talked about a
minute ago, Plaskett, uh, doing his bidding. We have Larry Summers, who is, you know,
good friend of Bill Clinton asking for advice on how to get horrors.
with this woman he was teaching, a Chinese macroeconomist.
She was a tenured London School of Economics Professor,
Harvard graduate, daughter of a Chinese associate of President Z.
And he writes to Epstein, his quote, wingman,
that he was chasing this woman and delivered a, again,
you don't write this, if you're writing about Epstein,
a blow-by-blow of his pursuits of this Chinese woman.
Through their correspondence,
Summers and Epstein referred to the woman as peril,
never using her name in one such exchange.
Summer asked Epstein whether it was meaningful to talk about the probability
of my getting horizontal with peril.
You are better at understanding Chinese women than
at probability theory.
Epstein went on to suggest the probability of Summers
ending up in bed with her was zero.
By the way, she was in her 40s.
He was in his 70s.
But she's never going to find a Larry Summers either.
People speculated online.
The nickname is drawn from the yellow peril trope.
Oh, good, good.
This is a guy, by the way.
I don't care what anybody does in their
her spare time, you know, as long as everybody is legal, but I mean, this is a woman who,
you know, Larry Summers was with the Treasury, not at this time, but he's high up in government.
I bet he probably still had his top secret clearance at the time.
He was with Bill Clinton all the time, and he wants to make it with this Chinese woman
who is into economics and good friends and in, not in bed, literally, but in, but in,
bed with President Z of China.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't want to know who's sleeping with who.
I don't really care.
But this seems to be a problem.
And the letters between the two, they're just disgusting.
They're really disgusting.
And this is a guy who's still teaching at Harvard.
Hey, keep your standards really high.
Harvard.
I mean, way to go.
Harvard.
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Glenn Beck program. Governor Abbott has done something great in Texas, something
thing that I wish, you know, the rest of the country would do because I think it is really,
really important. However, it's, it's dangerous, a little dangerous. Abbott issued a proclamation
yesterday. He's designating two groups as foreign terrorist organizations and transnational
criminal organizations under the Texas Penal and Texas Property Codes. The two organizations,
the Muslim Brotherhood and Care. Both of those, he said,
have made their goals very, very clear to impose Sharia law and establish Islam's mastership
of the world. They are now illegal in Texas. Are we going to enforce it? We'll see.
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You know, there are chapters in American history and world history that are too important.
plight to revisit as if silence can, you know, stand down the jagged edges of truth. But it's,
it's not. Those forgotten chapters will eventually roar back and remind us that the past is not a
museum. It is a map. So while we're looking at Texas saying Muslim Brotherhood and care are terrorist
organizations, let's look at where they came from. I want to tell you about a man whose fingerprints
run through some of the darkest moments of the last century and whose ideological children
still walk the earth and are a cause of many of the problems that we have. His name is Haj Amin al-Husani.
He is the grand or was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The West, they don't even know who he is. They
treat him as a footnote. He's not. Because the Grand Mufti was not just a regional religious leader.
he became one of the most influential collaborators with Adolf Hitler.
And he built a bridge between European fascism and Middle Eastern extremism and an architect.
He was an architect of a worldview that continues to claim lives all across the globe.
What you see happening with the Muslim Brotherhood, what you see happening in Europe,
what you see happening here in the United States,
he was the architect of all of this.
Now, let me take you through.
you know, some of this here, walk you through the story that, you know, history has tried to
bury. In 1941, El Husani set face to face with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. He didn't come
seeking peace. He didn't come pleading for the protection of his people. He came to offer help.
He pledged support for the Nazi cause in exchange for a promise that the Third Reich would extend
its final solution to the Jews living in the Middle East.
Now, this is not speculation.
This isn't rumor.
This is recorded, documented, corroborated history.
If you want to understand where all of this hatred is coming from, you want to
understand what's coming next, another Holocaust, you have to see where this poison jumped
when it jumped from Germany at the very end.
It jumped to the Middle East.
Now, this is a guy who urged Hitler and later Himmler.
to export the Holocaust to Jerusalem, Cairo, Baghdad, and beyond.
He broadcast speeches on Nazi radio, and he told the Arab listeners,
kill the Jews wherever you find them.
And he wasn't just talking.
He helped recruit tens of thousands of Muslims into Nazi SS divisions,
including the 13th Woffin Mountain Division.
These are the units that carried out massacres all across the Balkans.
we have this history documented at our museum.
Soon next year you'll be able to see the uniforms
and all of the documents that we have in our museum.
You'll be able to see it with George A.I.
sometime next year when we start making all of the artifacts available online.
But this was not a man misled by politics.
This was a man intoxicated by a genocidal dream.
when the Nazi war machine fell, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did not retreat into exile.
He redirected his energies.
He became a driving force behind the Arab Higher Committee, which rejected, see if this sounds
familiar, every peaceful compromise proposed for the region.
He used Nazi frameworks, propaganda, racial conspiracy, all kinds of really sick ideology
and injected them into the bloodstream of a fractured Middle East.
And then came his most lasting legacy.
He mentored a young relative.
And this young relative, his name was Yasser Arafat.
Arafat would go on to lead the PLO.
Now, this was an organization whose chapter or charter was in 1964, was really explicit.
it. The destruction of Israel. No two-state solution, no coexistence, elimination. This is the
Mufti's ideology, and it flowed directly into creation of groups that made terror a political
tool long before it became a global epidemic. And from that poison well sprang Fata,
Black September, the PLO, Islamic Jihad.
Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, all different names, same infection.
If you look at Hamas, their founding charter reads like a grotesque remix of the Mufdi's
1930s and 1940s propaganda, complete with conspiracy theories lifted directly from the Nazi
tracks, including the protocols of the elders of Zion.
This is a document that he spread everywhere through the Middle East.
This is the ideological genealogy that you'll never hear explained in polite conversation.
Everybody thinks that they're just so bright and so brilliant.
Yeah, you know what?
Who's controlling everything?
The Jews.
You know, the Jews are really the ones who are really the Nazis.
And it doesn't make any sense because they're under the stupid belief that Nazism died in a bunker.
It didn't.
Some of it fled to Kyr.
and to Damascus and back to Jerusalem, and then it metastasized.
And today, the echo still shakes the walls.
When you hear the terrorists chanting about the annihilation of Israel,
when you see school textbooks teaching children that Jews are descendant from apes and pigs,
when you watch mobs in European cities chanting gas the Jews,
you are looking at the shadow of the grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
And not because he created hatred.
hatred's ancient.
He systematized it.
He modernized it.
He married it to the 20th century totalitarianism.
He took old prejudices and gave them the machinery of modern propaganda.
And he forged his links between fascism and Islamicism that still animate the organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Groups whose goals are not political compromise, but eradicate.
purification and the crushing of the Western ideals.
It's so frustrating to know history and then to hear people, especially the youth,
just spout stuff off.
They have no idea how much they're being used.
And we have to invite them to, because they don't know, they just don't know.
They just don't know. Nobody's teaching this stuff.
And this is not about smearing millions of peaceful Muslims.
It's just about identifying the ideological,
architecture behind the most toxic, violent, and expansionist movements on earth.
And at the center of that architecture stands the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
And if we ignore this, we ignore it at our own peril.
If you understand the Mufti's role, the present suddenly becomes very, very clear.
Why anti-Semitism exploding globally?
How is this happening?
Why radical organizations can't accept any compromise?
Why from the river to the sea isn't a chant. It's a promise of destruction. Why every ceasefire
becomes a pause, never peace. Why every concession is interpreted not as goodwill, but as weakness.
Stuff didn't start last week. It didn't start on October 7th. It didn't start with the creation
of Israel. The roots run back over a century ago to a man who believed the genocide of Europe
should be replicated in the Middle East.
And today his ideological errors wear masks.
They hold rifles.
They teach children to hate before they can read.
And it's all from this guy who's not just a historic figure, the Grand Mufti.
He's a cautionary tale.
He's a signal flare.
He's a reminder that unchallenged evil does not disappear.
It regenerates.
And if we want true peace,
lasting peace, then we have to first learn the truth and tell the truth, not the sanitized
version of it, not the version that keeps activists comfortable, but the version that recognizes
the path that we're walking on and where it leads if we don't change any course.
That's why what Governor Abbott did yesterday is so important, because the past is still
speaking.
And the voice sounds hauntingly familiar.
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So I've said this for a long time.
question everything, a question with boldness, even the very existence of God.
And it's really important, but it's honest questioning, honest questioning, because asking
honest questions is really, really healthy and always okay to do.
If the truth is the actual motivation, the actual goal, then question all the time.
But I don't think that's what's actually happening right now.
are people asking questions about what's going on with Israel, et cetera, et cetera,
because they're truly curious or are they doing it because they heard, I don't know,
Elon Omar talking about it while wagging a finger?
Do they actually want an answer or do they just see something about it on TikTok and then
they made up their mind?
Are you actually searching for the truth?
Because the truth doesn't usually come on TikTok.
You have to work for the truth.
if you want real answers, we need a much deeper conversation.
And it can't be based on Hollywood storytelling.
That's the laziest, most dangerous way to understand the world and reality.
So let me show you what I mean.
Take a Marvel movie.
Good guy shows up.
Yay!
He's in a cape and he's a good guy.
The bad guy shows up.
Boo, hiss.
The moral of the story is all wrapped up in two hours.
Perfect, black and white.
It's simple.
It's easy, right?
but the problem is that
the real problems in the world are not based on make-believe
storytelling
what you're seeing in the movies is not real
but it is effective
you see
this happens sadly on both sides of the aisle
right now it's actually how the left has packed their narratives
ever since the 1960s they identify the good guys
the oppressed applause
and then they identify the bad guys the oppressors
boo his who manifests these two movie characters good guys the colonized yay the bad guys western colonizers
boo hiss and in a few just a few words in a few minutes there is this very distinct reason
why again after the 1960s that Zionism suddenly became a left-wing synonym synonym for imperialism
and colonization.
Suddenly the Palestinian issue, out of nowhere,
becomes an issue of colonization.
But this isn't the 1960s anymore.
There's a new generation of storytellers,
and they are weaving their marvelous magic
and plot lines everywhere.
Take A-PAC.
You hear everywhere now,
Rashida Talib to some random blue-haired college activists.
They're pulling the strings.
They should register under
Farah. Okay. All right. But let's slow down here for a beat. Is this really the question that is
in good faith? Is it an exploration for truth or is it something else entirely? Farah. This is
the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Okay. And it applies if a U.S. person or a U.S.
organization acts at the direction or control of a foreign principle. Advocacy, domestically funded,
independent, not enough. Funding, direction, control. That is the test. Now, here's the major point
in this discussion that is conveniently being left out of the movie script. APEC is not unique.
So if you have a problem with APEC, let's broaden this a bit. There are dozens of groups that
operate exactly the same way. The Armenian National Committee of America, the Armenian Assembly
of America, the Cuban American National Foundation, the Polish American Congress, the Irish
American organizations, the Turkish American organizations, they all lobby Congress,
they all advocate for policies that are favorable to another country and not necessarily
favorable to us.
And none of them register under Farah because they're independent domestic organizations.
So why is everybody just singling out APAC?
bias. I have no problem. If you want to stop APEC from doing this, great. Let's stop all of them
from doing this. It's like if you say the main cause of climate change, you hate oil and gas,
and so you logically have issues with the auto industry, so you then single out Toyota Corolla's.
That's the cause of everything. It's a Toyota Corolla. I'll tell you that, those dang Toyota Corolla's.
Not only the sole purpose for climate change, but they also control the entire government.
They rule Hollywood, the banks and anything else you can blame on a family foredoor.
The real question isn't Toyota.
The real question isn't APEC.
The real conversation is FARA as a whole.
If that's your issue, its scope, its enforcement, and the gray areas where foreign governments hire U.S. firms that do register.
But blaming one organization, this is where it all falls apart.
That's the laziest of the lazy ways to search for truth.
I mean, and it's honestly, it's Elon Omar stupid.
So let's talk about U.S. aid to Israel.
I am hearing all over the place, why are we giving billions?
Okay, good question.
Honestly, here's the reality.
Baseline aid, 3.3 billion a year in military assistance,
missile defense, another 500 million.
That's 16% of Israel's annual military budget.
Big numbers.
And let's discuss that.
But part of the discussion has to be, is it strategic?
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Are we getting anything in return?
And what does it look like from other nations?
Are we giving the same kind of money or the same kind of aid anywhere else?
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I mean, we have to, we have to broaden this.
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but I would include the show in that as well. It's Wednesday. So welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
We have an exclusive announcement from the governor of Texas. We just got word. They're going to be
making an announcement here in about a half hour or so. We're going to have that for you in just a few minutes.
As soon as it arrives, we'll have it for you.
But it's in regard to what we're talking about here at this hour,
about the state of Texas finally getting serious about the Muslim Brotherhood
and also care.
And I wish all states would do this.
But it's way past time that we got serious about these two organizations.
Glenn, can I interrupt you for just one second?
Sure.
Because this is amazing.
I was listening to what you're talking about with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
and going into Nazi Germany.
And I was just messing around with one of the things
that were developing for the torch.
And I was plugging all this into Glenn AI.
And it was amazing.
You actually did a huge special on this several years ago
where you went even further in depth
on the Grand Mufti of Israel.
I mean, it's insane.
One of the things that stuck out to me
was one of the big propaganda arms
of Hitler and the Nazis was the Grand Mufti
directed back towards the Middle Eastern world,
putting all of this anti-Jew ideology over in there.
And you know how he did it?
If I remember,
and he broadcast it from Berlin.
Radio.
Yes, radio.
You actually had a picture of the radio tower.
It was ginormous.
And he was directing all of this.
It was one of the main propaganda methods used,
and the Grand Movie of Jerusalem was the head of it.
Who was the name of the special, do you know?
of the
of all of this stuff
oh it was armies of Armageddon
Armageddon
Armageddon so good
but I mean and you again
doubled down even on
some of the details on this
guess who was one of the main
listeners of this propaganda
as a young child
I don't remember
he would soon be crowned the Ayatola
oh my gosh he was
1979 in Iraq so he goes to Iran
based off of all of this ideology, that ideology is still alive and going crazy in Iran.
Right. That's what Iran is all about.
And the origins are from this grand move to Jerusalem and a Nazi propaganda.
And Hitler.
Just nuts.
Crazy. Absolutely crazy.
How people don't understand how this is all come together.
By the way, what he's talking about is we have George AI.
George is the librarian for our history library.
internally we have Glenn AI and eventually both of these will be available to everybody.
First, it'll be to subscribers only just because we can only have a certain amount of people
just because of the compute power is so difficult and so expensive.
But Glenn AI is monitoring everything that I say.
It has my entire library, every book, every special, everything I've ever said has the entire library
and of 30 years of broadcast
and will bring up things
if I'm wrong, inconsistent,
it will show up to Jason and say,
actually he said this five years ago.
That doesn't seem to match.
Why did he change his mind or whatever?
And it will bring up everything that we're talking
so we can go more in depth.
And on Torch,
there is going to be something at glenbeck.com,
starting in January.
the show behind the show.
So there are going to be two shows running at the same time.
And so when the network goes into commercial break on the torch,
it will go over to Glenn A.I. and Jason,
who is going to be bringing further light and knowledge, if you will,
to all of the things that we're talking about.
And he'll give the historic context.
He'll correct things.
And then if he has to correct them with me on air too on the regular show.
But also we'll be doing, like, what would you be doing a special on today?
We would have Glenn AI do a podcast today on what, based on today's show.
Do you know?
You could, yeah, you could do a quick little podcast that we can generate, eventually the audience
could generate on their own, just based off of, let's say what's going on in Texas right now
with the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood and Care.
I've got warning lights on this tool right now that are just about to blow my computer up.
with all these different details about where the Grand Mufti went after he fled Germany afterwards,
going to Egypt, meeting up with the Muslim Brotherhood and their creator, Hassan Albana.
You've spoken about all of this.
It's all right here.
And Will, could you also do everything we've spoken about on what's happening in Texas to give you the understanding of why it's so important in Texas?
You could put all of that together, blend it together.
You could even create a chalkboard, which I have generating up right now, where you could put all this.
It's insane.
It's really insane what our new AI system is going to be able to do.
It'll be able to give you such a deeper understanding of everything.
And I've said this before.
The torch is broadcast is broad.
Okay.
So we talk about a hundred different things and we make sure that we cover all the news that everybody wants to know.
That's broadcast.
That's this radio broadcast.
The torch will take everything that is.
narrow you want to learn more about it and you'll eventually be able to ask it yourself glenn mentioned
this i want to go really deep on that i want to deep dive i want to understand this and that will be
very narrow but very very deep so if you really want to learn something you know we talk about the
constitution all the here all day long but have you ever read the constitution have you ever
taken a class on the constitution i haven't i mean i've read the constitution but i've never taken a
class on it um do you know what civics is do you know what that really means that
You know, what did the founders, the Federalist Papers, what are, what are, what's in the Federalist
papers?
How does it apply today on certain things?
You'll be able to take deep dives into all of these things.
Anything on the radio show, you'll be able to take a deep dive.
George Soros, is he connected to any of this stuff?
Yeah.
And based on the 30 years of broadcast and books and every speech I've ever given, everything
else, all vetted and made sure that it's actually accurate.
it's all now in Glenn AI.
So you'll be able to ask it, I need to understand this.
And we'll produce it for you.
And you'll be able to have access to all of those things.
It's really a remarkable tool.
Unlike anything else, it's all proprietary technology based on proprietary libraries.
It's not going out and searching.
So it can't hallucinate.
It has to memorize all of these things.
And that's where hallucination becomes the problem.
It memorizes everything.
that we've ever done, everything the founders did that we have put in.
And these libraries will continue to grow day after day and get stronger and stronger and
stronger.
And you'll be able to use them as a teaching tool for you, your family, your kids, whomever.
And you can create anything from, you know, things that you can read to podcasts that you
want to listen to.
We at first have to create them for you because of the compute.
but we ask you to tell us what is it you want to learn?
What is it that you don't understand?
What is it that you would like a deep dive on?
Whether that is anything based on our history or anything based on the world today,
please just write to us at Torch or The Torch at glenbeck.com.
Just send us an email.
Tell us what you want to learn.
Tell us where you want deep dives,
what you think you really need to understand,
what you want to teach your kids.
If you want to teach it to your kids, tell us, I'd like a lesson plan on this for my kids.
And we will create a lesson plan for your kids.
You want your kids to understand the Bill of Rights?
Tell us.
You know, my kids are 8 to 14 years old, and I want a lesson plan that I can take and teach my kids.
And we'll give you that lesson plan.
And it'll give you all of the footnotes so you know exactly where these things are.
And you'll be able to look for them.
Tell us if you want it in their language or if you want it in your kids language.
You know, it's really hard to understand the founders sometimes, especially if you're younger.
But we can translate that into your kids language and then provide you all of the documentation that shows it in their language.
I can't wait to show you in a couple of weeks.
I did an interview with George Washington.
It's freaky.
Absolutely free.
Have you seen it yet, Jason?
Yeah, it's insane.
It's freaky.
And in it, I'm sitting across the table from him.
Now, this is something that it takes so much compute.
It's just too expensive to create right now.
We've created one just to show you what's coming.
But I'm sitting across the table and I am talking to an AI, George Washington.
And he's dressed like today, but he looks like George Washington.
and he looks absolutely real.
And I said to him,
okay,
so we fed in the problems
of everything that's going on today.
Tell me where have we gone wrong?
What are the things that we're missing
and where should we start to rebuild?
And he starts in,
and at first he's just giving stuff,
you know,
in 1700s talk.
And I'm like,
okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
To say, tell me this in today's language.
And he actually argues with me for a second.
And he's like, I have 74 points all lined out in our federalist papers and many of our writings and the scriptures, et cetera, et cetera.
And I'm like, yeah, right.
Just tell it to me in today's language.
And he does.
And it is so compelling.
So compelling.
And it's all footnoted.
So you could go back and look at it and read it and go, oh, that's what he was talking about.
Here it is in their language back then.
It's this document.
It's incredible.
Nobody has ever done this before.
I want to tell you that what I'm explaining to you is not going to be able to be accessed fully when we launch in January.
Some of this stuff you're going to have to create for you just because we have to narrow it down on compute time.
And you just tell us what is it you want to learn.
We'll teach anything to you and your family.
Just tell us what you want to learn.
And it's going to be a room to.
You know, the 250th anniversary, we wanted to launch this for the 250th anniversary of the nation.
And on my 49th year of broadcast, because my 50th is coming up in 2027, and we are going to change not only the way history is taught, but also the way broadcast is being done, this kind of broadcast and podcasting.
We think that we have a code here that unlocks an entirely new world of understanding and education.
So we'll ask you to join us at Torch.
And we'll do that in January.
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You'll be the first to know about when you can sign up, when you can get involved in it.
You can do it now at glenbeck.com.
Glennbeck.com do it now. Do we have the message from from Abbott? Here is the statement from
Governor Abbott exclusive to our program. He'll be releasing this later this morning.
It has come to my attention that certain entities in Texas, including in Colin and Dallas
counties, may be masquerading as legal courts staffed with judges issuing orders that
purportedly carry the authority to bind individuals to Islamic codes, thereby
preempting state and federal laws.
This is amazing.
Do you remember the story, Stu?
Do you remember when I did the interview?
Do you remember this?
In Irving, which is where he's talking about, in Irving, Texas, the town where our studios
are in, I had two imams, and I interviewed them.
And I knew Sharia was part of their plan.
but they were never going to give it up.
And I just did this really kind and gentle.
And when you're friendly, it's amazing how people talk.
It was outside.
It was outside.
It was very pleasant.
And I'm like, so tell me about Sharia law.
And one of them eventually says, you know, well, I mean, we all agree that, you know, if you, if you break the law, you know, if you steal, your hand should be cut off.
And I'm like, wow.
And you saw the other Amman, the older Amman.
get very uncomfortable.
And he was like,
well, I mean, you know,
but the other imam was just speaking out
Sharia courts.
It's all coming.
And it was pretty telling.
Well, now it's here.
So the governor goes on in this
exclusive statement to the Glenn Beck program.
The U.S. Constitution's religious protections
provide no authority for religious courts
to skirt state and federal laws
simply by donning robes
and pronouncing positions inconsistent
with Western civilization.
I urge you, therefore, to investigate efforts by entities purporting to illegally enforce Sharia law in Texas.
Legal disputes in Texas must be decided based on American law rooted in the fundamental principles of American due process,
not according to Sharia law dispensed in modern day Star Chambers.
Wow. Wow.
So this is going to require cooperation between DPS and the office of the Attorney General.
The letter is going to be sent out later today, but this is an exclusive report from the governor.
And I applaud Governor Abbott for actually doing this.
Now let's see if we have teeth in this and they actually follow up.
So this is not just an election stunt, but this is actually a dictate.
and where our government in Texas is going,
and I urge other states to do exactly the same.
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In one of the
one of the best examples of a tweet
not aging well,
it has to be from Olivia Newsy,
who is, she is a reporter
who has been, well, sleeping around,
with several politicians that she's been covering.
And in 2015, she wrote a tweet that says,
why does Hollywood think female reporters sleep with their sources?
Why can't they get women journalists right?
Well, I mean, it looks like it kind of did get women journalists right.
We'll get into this story here in just a second,
because it's just so hilarious how self-absorbed and unaware
they are of their own situations.
They're just so incredibly insipid.
We'll get into that here in a second.
Also, Cracker Barrow, my interview with the CEO,
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Okay.
Glenn, the saga.
of Olivia
Knutzi. This
is a great story, a fun
story and a story that
I swear to you has a point.
It's important to understand that at the beginning
because you might think this is just
salacious nonsense and you're just
dancing on the tragedies of others.
I think we covered this yesterday.
I think we covered this yesterday.
There's enough going on in the world
that is just, you know,
it'll curdle milk.
You read a story and you're like, oh, and you'll watch the milk in your coffee just curdle all of a sudden because you're just saying, I think the world is coming to an end.
And it curdles and you got lumps in your coffee.
This is, I think there's time once in a while just for just fun, satisfying stories.
And this one is that.
Yes.
And I will begin the story at the very, very start, Glenn.
And I will start it with a question for you.
And this is a question that I think.
think sets the scene for the entire journey we're about to go on.
Olivia Nudson, journalists.
Let's do it.
She starts her career.
Very first job.
She volunteers as an intern for what campaign.
Volunteers as an intern for what campaign.
It just has to be Bill Clinton.
It just has to be Bill Clinton.
It's a good guess.
However, timing wise.
Oh, Anthony Wheeler.
Anthony Weiner.
Weiner is the answer.
She volunteers for the failed mayoral campaign of Anthony Weiner.
So this is how this story starts.
So she starts covering weaners.
Yes, she starts covering weaers and the whole story is her doing more of that.
We'll get into that as we go.
So she starts with the weiner campaign and, you know, this is a disaster.
It's a, you know, a kind of a legendary catastrophe.
They have a documentary going on.
We talked about that at the time.
You know, totally the whole thing flames apart.
That...
By the way, by the way, I'm just sitting here thinking,
I don't think I was technically wrong when I said it was a Clinton campaign.
Because remember...
That's true.
Hillary Clinton is all over the weiner.
But that's...
Please don't say it like that.
But yes.
That is accurate.
Yeah, because if I say it like that, it leads you to believe...
And that is absolutely not true.
I don't think she's ever been all over.
I just don't.
I think, yes, because if you remember,
Uma Abidine at this time is married to Anthony Wiener.
Can you use air quotes?
Yes, air quoting all over the place.
On her wonderful path to Marius Soros,
at that time, married to Weiner,
and she's helping out Hillary Clinton as her, like,
you know, top dog main assistant.
Okay, so that's all going.
That's the first thing.
It's got almost nothing to do with the story.
Did you use air quotes?
for assistant there as well. I did not. I did not.
All right. Go ahead. So, how does Olivia Nutsi get into our lives? She goes, she goes from the
Weiner campaign and leaves and writes basically a tell-all, you know, scandal log of what was going on during the Weiner campaign.
Basically, this thing was a catastrophe. She tells the inside story and releases it to the Daily News,
who prints this column from at this point a 20-year-old aspiring journalist.
And, you know, she's pretty, she's glamorous.
She's, you know, kind of like the New York elite journalist
that you'd exactly picture in this situation.
So she gets this and turns that one column into a job
while she's still in college.
She's at Fordham.
She's at Fordham, of course.
I thought you'd like that detail
for multiple reasons.
My daughter went to Fordham.
They actually had the balls to.
They held rallies against me on the Fordham campus.
And then they had the balls to come and ask my wife and I to come in to meet with a dean
because they wanted to know if we would help them build a library.
There were words that started with.
F that were not fruit
As we left that meeting
Was it Fordham? That was the F word Fordham?
You fordum? No
No
Okay
Fordham you
Yeah that's the university that's what I mean
Fordham University Fordham you
Anyway go ahead
Okay so she gets hired from that one column
As one of the main
Presidential
Campaign Correspondence
for the Daily Beast, which tells you yet again something about the standards at the Daily Beast when it comes to journalism, which are exactly zero.
They have higher standards at Fordham.
So those are pretty low.
And those are low.
She's going to cover the Chris Christie campaign, the Rand Paul campaign, and some of the early bubbling beginnings of the Donald Trump campaign.
This is back in 2014-15 and there.
She, in 2015, as you note, as she's in this job, she does do that tweet about House of Cards and how women should not, or Hollywood should not misportray the journalists that are females because they're always saying that they sleep with their sources.
And that's a terrible thing for her in the tradition.
They point that out, which is an amazing thing for multiple reasons, Glenn, because, well, I'll get into that here in a second.
So she does that.
She then gets named by Politico one of the 16 breakout media stars of the presidential election.
This is November 2016.
Wow.
She then in February 2017 parlays that into a job as the Washington correspondent of New York
Magazine.
She's 24 years old.
24 years old Washington correspondent at New York Magazine.
You're like, wow, that's a prestigious position who held it before her.
No one.
They literally create this job for her.
which is incredible.
Again, she's 24 years old.
It's not probably the only position created for her.
She may have several that she's documented in a book or two that we could go over later.
Okay, so.
And you wonder, and this is a time to pause.
Jesus would not be doing this segment.
I just want to let you know right here and now.
That's true.
It's true.
Yeah, all right.
So.
So you think about what a meteoric rise this is.
I mean, this is, Glenn, you know this.
This is not how media operates.
You don't do what she's done here.
This is like incredible.
It's like she, you know, someone who never played basketball before and is in the NBA three years later.
Like it's like legitimately an incredible rise.
You wonder how that rise occurred.
Those questions may be answered later on.
Stop using the word rise.
You're making me uncomfortable.
2018.
She's included in the Forbes 30 under.
30 list, which is a very prestigious list.
In October 2018, as a member of working for New York Magazine, she's invited for an
exclusive interview in the Oval Office to interview Donald Trump.
Again, she's 25 at this point.
Very prestigious.
She's awarded a next award by the American Society of Magazine editors.
She gets a documentary on MSNBC.
She portrays herself on the Showtime show billions.
In 2022.
Oh my gosh.
Like, again, this is this is someone who's a massive celebrity in that world.
You might not know her name, but she is a massive celebrity.
She, you know, works gets a six-part interview series for Bloomberg.
And then she does a profile of RFK Jr.
The candidate, who you may remember running for president as a Democrat, okay?
I can't remember if the profile happened when he was running as a Democrat or he had kind of flipped to an independent.
but it's before he is endorsing Trump or there's Maha or any of that stuff, right?
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
And she does this profile of him that I guess goes pretty well.
And it comes out much more favorable, I would say, than many of the other previews,
or profiles of RFK Jr. in this period.
She, but again, it has some criticism and some, you know, quirkiness in it.
And her style of writing has all sorts of weird details and, you know, sometimes it's
kind of, I think it's actually pretty good.
Like, I think some of her reporting was pretty good.
She did have some really fascinating stories that she wrote over this period.
But, like, the celebrities seem to overextend past maybe what she had achieved in her career so far.
So she writes this profile of RFK Jr.
And then it is the news breaks that RFK Jr. and Olivia Nutsi are having what they call an emotional affair,
which seems to be lots of very detailed loving text messages back and forth promises about eventually meeting up.
When you say loving, is it like, you know, you are a child of God and I just love you and want to help you anyway?
Is that what you mean by loving or do you mean like Barry White loving?
Well, to put in another way, we're talking about a Kennedy.
so I'm talking about Kennedy style loving, which is, again, ding-dong, pizza delivery.
It's important to note that Olivia Nutsi is engaged to another journalist, Ryan Liza, at this time.
And so she's engaged to somebody.
RFK Jr., not that this makes seemingly any difference to him whatsoever, is married at the time,
and it's still currently married to an actress in Hollywood.
So he's doing this, she's doing this.
This is suboptimal, not only for a marriage, but also a presidential campaign.
And this goes on, the news finally breaks that this has happened.
Now, this is a problem for a bunch of reasons.
Number one, you have a fiancé.
Number two, the person you're texting with is married.
Number three, though, a really serious journalist problem, right?
Like, you're profiling someone and having an affair with them at the same time.
That is frowned upon, at least in theory, in the world of journalism.
journalism. Now, in practice, God only knows, but in theory, you're not supposed to do that, Glenn.
This is something they tell you relatively early on at journalism school, I assume.
And so, I got to, I got to apologize to all those people I've been sleeping with that come on the show.
Is that, how many people have you profiled, Glenn? You just profiled the great Mufti.
Have you ever had any relations with, have you ever had the relations with the Mufti?
I got to tell you the truth, Stu.
Yep.
Oh, no.
Back in 1942.
So all of this comes out in the media.
And she sort of goes, she gets fired from New York magazine because of this journalistic lapse.
And she sort of goes into hiding.
Okay.
She goes into hiding.
She moves.
She is, you know, not saying word one about this.
And she, you know, she talks a lot.
So that's notable.
In this period.
Ryan Liza, her ex-fiancee, now they broke up, ex-fiancee, and her are negotiating, according to him, a, do not, what is it, non-disclosure.
Don't talk about this.
Don't talk about this.
Don't disparage.
No.
Let's just let just let this be over.
He also gets a message, according to him, from an intermediate friend that says,
hey, she never wants to talk about this again.
She hopes you'll never talk about this again.
Can we just move past this?
And he, according to him, says, you know what?
I'm on board with that.
Let's just never let this go.
So a little bit of time goes on.
And what we learn is her time in exile has actually been spent writing a book.
which is called American Canto.
It is coming out in a couple of weeks from today, or from yesterday, two weeks from yesterday.
And it's a book that's...
Does this one...
Does the book include her time with Governor Mark Sanford?
Well, we're getting to that.
In 2019, 2020.
I mean, she was sleeping with him, too, before the JFK thing.
That's a big part of the story that we're getting to here because she...
At this point, we don't even know.
At this point in the story, we have no idea about that.
we only know about the RFK Jr thing.
So she releases this book, and in it is all these details about the RFK Jr. thing.
Now, you'd think the way the media would handle this woman, who they've just ejected from their society for massive journalistic and moral lapses, would be hammering her over her activity here.
Instead, she gets a glowing profile in the New York Times with, like, her, with the incredible footage.
You've got to see the footage, Glenn. You'd love it. It's her. She's driving in a convertible hair in the wind.
in like Chanel glasses.
She looks spectacular as she's going down.
This is how the New York Times rolls this out for her.
And she talks about her as a junior affair.
Okay, Kay, can you stop using a few terms you just use with going down.
Let's stop using that as well.
Let me talk to you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
You might not know this, but Argentina is home of the largest Jewish population in all of
Latin America.
Quarter of a million people.
Isn't it weird because didn't the Nazis go to Argentina too?
You'd think they wouldn't go to the same place.
The families went to Argentina, fleeing occupied, Nazi occupied Europe and their children and the grandchildren still live there today.
But since October 7th, something dark has been rising again.
It's anti-Semitism.
And it's been showing up in Argentinian schools and universities, even Buenos Aires University, most respected in South America.
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews recently met with the Argentinians.
union of Jewish students, a group representing more than 25 campuses across the country who are
fighting to keep Jewish students safe. Ivan is their Secretary General, and he described what they're
facing. He said murals and graffiti calling for Israel's destruction sprayed across the walls and
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writes this piece that you noted outlines a relationship that he, you know, he catches. You know, he
catches her in the middle of an affair. They've had sex, all of those other things, all these other
things gives all the details. Turns out the whole time you believe it's RFK Jr.
But at the end, it is revealed it is not RFK Jr. He's actually talking about a previous
affair of Mark with Mark Sanford, the former governor of South Carolina. Now, what's fascinating
about that. He was disgraced in a sexual. He had a previous sexual thing. Remember you went on the
Appalachian Trail famously? He was not on the Appalachian Trail. He was having an affair. So that
got happened. He broke up with that woman. He's back now running at this point, by the way,
as an anti-Trump, I'm the, I'm like the guy you should trust candidate in 2019.
At that point, which is a fascinating development, honestly. But at this point, he gets profiled
again by Olivia Nutsi. This is how they led into this. At some point, there's these pictures
of him looking very happy and someone comments under her story, hey, he looks happy. And she says,
I tend to have that effect on people.
I tend to have that effect.
Well, I guess, you know, I bet you do, Olivia.
I bet you do.
I bet you make seemingly old white men very happy in many ways.
So that all happens.
Also in this story is our details that were not before known about her previous
relationship with Keith Olberman.
Now, what's fascinating about this one,
want to timeline this one for you, Glenn.
She's currently 32 years old.
Okay?
32 years old.
He's got to be 65?
Well, we know at one point when they were together.
Yeah, he's about 65.
When they were together at one point, she was 21 and he was 55.
So we know that.
You know there's a 34 year difference between them.
There's a 32 year difference, I believe, between Sanford and her.
So she has a type.
So she, but the timeline of that,
she's 32 now. In the piece
Lizza says
he refers to the
relationship as a lost decade, which
would bring it back to 22.
He also says, before that,
he helped her get out of the Oberman relationship,
which moves it to 21 at least.
Are we talking 17? And
Oberman says they were together for four years.
So were we talking 17 to 21?
What four years are we talking?
There's something weird there that.
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So Stu has been telling us here for the last half hour, kind of a continuation of where we were yesterday.
because the story is just so salacious and so ridiculous and and and so just self unaware of the media
a young 20 something media icon in New York.
She tweets out, you know, why does the media always say that we're, you know, our young
reporters are always sleeping with our subjects?
Well, because you are and we didn't know it at the time, but she was, she's been sleeping
with many of the people that she's reporting on.
And now,
Stu is just telling it,
after all of this stuff comes out,
it's a big scandal in,
like,
you know,
her fiance's life.
It doesn't seem to be a big scandal on the left
in the reporting,
uh,
circles.
They don't seem to care at all.
And you were talking about how she,
she just got this profile done of her where she's,
you know,
driving in this,
you know,
convertible top down looking great,
blah, blah,
and it's a fluff piece.
Um,
What, are, was this to like, build her image into something, the media just doesn't, just wants to make sure that she's still in the group for some reason?
I must to promote her book, I mean, I would say largely.
I mean, and it has some criticism.
It goes through some of her scandals, but it is a, you know, it's a piece that you'd hope for, certainly as you're releasing a new book.
And at one point, she's talking about how she would cover the mayoral campaign of, that just happened in New York.
Does it start with her sleeping with Bomb Dye?
I don't know, but I think Eric Adams would like it because she said someone should be with Eric Adams.
And he's like, yeah, you!
Come here!
Cover me, baby, cover me.
At one point, the New York Times journalist says, can you believe Eric Adams threw his entire career and life away over business, you know, business class travel, which was sort of the allegation when he was going through a scandal?
And she replies, well, I threw mine away for much less.
It isn't exactly complimentary to RFK Jr., I suppose, but I think she's relatively self-aware, at least on some of the stuff.
Yeah, pretty brilliant of her, though.
It's a great mind.
I said to the, because tonight, we'll get back to this in a second, but tonight, the cracker barrel, there's two parts of Cracker Barrel and get into this in a second, but I was talking to the CEO.
And I said, who put the, who put the meme out with the White House with a Cracker Barrel edition where the new ballroom is going to be?
Did you see that tweet?
And somebody had made that meme and Crackerbell put out, I don't think you want us anywhere near any remodeling.
Yeah, it's a good line.
And I said to them, I said, whoever did that should get a raise.
Not taking yourself so seriously was the best move you guys made after this debacle.
She's doing the same thing.
Yeah, I guess I threw my life away for even less than that.
Yeah, it's a smart way to handle it for sure.
our way to handle it. And you know, she's very media savvy to say the very least. So we left off
with the story. Well, she's left with some of the best. That's true. She's learned for the best.
So we left off with Keith Oberman. Olberman, you know, dated her before all of this happened.
And there's some details in the write-up from her ex-fiancee that talks about this.
Can you just stop? Let the vomiting stop before you go on after you said dating Keith Oberman.
Let everybody get the vomiting done. There's more vomiting to come on.
on that particular one.
I'm sorry.
I can't help you on that one.
So he paid for her to attend college.
Keith Oberman paid for Nutsi to attend college,
gave her all these fancy dresses,
$15,000 worth of Cartier jewelry.
He covered her rent.
He furnished her apartment in a doorman building
in the West Village.
Now, he has a defense to all of this,
which is interesting because I think,
in this case,
the defense is worse than the crime because he says,
Leave it to Oberman.
Of course.
He says, by the way, about this, all the money that was spent,
Olivia and I lived together for four years.
That's his description of the event.
Four plus years is how he says it.
Four birthdays, four Christmases, four anniversaries.
That's like $1,250 of jewelry per celebration.
And her apartment was a writing studio.
And I made an F ton then, meaning he made a lot of money.
What was I supposed to do?
Get her a lot of gift certificates from Kmart.
So that's his defense.
He like, oh, gosh, I wasn't, I wasn't showering her with gifts.
I wasn't a sugar daddy.
That's kind of the allegation that's been put up against him.
He's like, instead, I was just living with her and giving her, you know, nice presents for all of the birthdays.
But again, this brings the timeline very much into question here.
We know that they were together at 21 years old.
okay we know that they now lived together for four plus years by keith's own admission okay and we would assume
they at least went on one date before they moved into with each other so well so i so what's the i mean
just kind of throwing numbers out there is it four and a half years they were dating let's just
say four and a half years you know they moved in pretty quickly together that puts the beginning of their
relationship to predate her internship with the weiner campaign.
Now, I don't, maybe that's not right.
You know, it is a little confusing.
There's some overlapping timelines here.
But let's put it.
She started with, she started with the one weiner at 18.
At the 20.
That was, I think it was 20.
At 20.
She's 20 years old.
And why do you say that it would predate?
Could we know that the end of that relationship was 2021?
We don't know the, I don't know the exact end of the relationship.
But we do know that her fiancé said it was a lost decade of a relationship that ended in 2024.
So that would put her back at about 21 years old if you take that term literally.
Now, maybe it was only seven years and it was really 20 to 24 years old they were living together.
It's possible.
We don't know exactly.
But I think clarification is necessary because we're the best case scenario here is
Keith is looking for barely legal girls.
That's the best case scenario.
The best reading on this is this multi-millionaire 55-year-old trolling for interns, you know,
that were 18, 19, 20, 17, something like that.
So that's where we are with the Keith Olderman situation.
Now, what's fascinating about all of this, and there is a point to all of this,
which is when you see someone in the media, say you're a racist, say you're a transphobe,
say that you're killing grandma because you won't wear a mask outdoors,
telling you that when you go to your kids' PTA or the school board meeting
and are upset that they're teaching sex to them at 12 years old,
When those people tell you that you're the bad ones, remember that they're all the worst people society has ever produced.
They are all doing.
I mean, I mean, well, you know, there's a few others.
I think Mangala was much worse.
Yes.
Obviously, there is a level above.
Not in polite society, there's some of the worst morally.
They're some of the most reprehensible people around.
They are doing incredible, incredible things.
that you don't know about and their judgment should mean nothing to you.
Nothing.
Nothing to you.
Nothing to you.
Going to that, you know, that whole tweet you put out, which is a fascinating, you know,
a button on the end of this story where she writes a story.
I remember reading it in 2015.
Hey, like, why are, you know, you're portraying these women, these young female reporters,
is just sleeping their way to the top.
That's awful.
There's sluts?
Yeah.
That was actually a word she was called, by the way.
That exact word she was called after the Anthony Wiener about the issue.
Oh my gosh. And how appropriate is that?
Yeah. How appropriate and accurate is that?
Yes. So, so interesting. But like what's fascinating about that is I, you know, I saw that
screenshot, which is of Zoe Barnes, the journalist in that series House of Cards. Then she was,
you know, sleeping around. And as I saw it, I was like, God, I love that series. So I went back
and watched the first episode of the show just because I was like, I got to watch that again.
It was really good, at least the first couple of seasons of it. And,
Well, in that story...
And she was the one that was pushed in the front of the train, right?
Yes, I mean, that's the biggest spoiler alert of all time.
But yes, it's 10 years old, it's fine.
But what I'm saying is, like, it's just...
It's one of the greatest moments in television.
I mean, I remember watching it and then rewatching it like five times.
I was so shocked by that moment.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I want to go back through it.
But in that...
The young female journalist is portrayed at one point of sleeping around a little bit.
She is also portrayed as a woman who goes...
to Frank Underwood, the powerful congressman, and tells him that she will print anything he says
and never ask a question about it.
And that was never controversial.
There was no pushback against that portrayal of journalism.
That portrayal of journalism was just like left out there like that happens all the time.
The sleeping around was the only thing that there was pushback on.
I found that to be pretty revealing fascinating too.
Which I think probably happens all the time too.
time. I think that happens all the time. These guys, I mean, look, this, I'm going to tell a Woodrow Wilson
story. This is, this is what that was all about. Bring the press in and wine and dine them and make
them part of the family. Don't, don't allow them to look at our relationship as adversarial.
Bring them in, you know, flatter them, show them that we trust you, because you can talk to the
American people. And you know where that that's how that all got mixed up. That's how that all got
mixed up. Now, let me ask you this, Glenn. Is this what Cracker Barrel was attempting with you?
With me? Is that what they were trying to do? They're trying to bring you in to get like a good
PR spin out of this? Is that was their, was that their attempt? Do these pancakes turn you on, Glenn?
Yes. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. By the way, tonight, there's two-part special. Tonight, I am
taking you to this big huge warehouse that Cracker Barrel has.
And it's the guy who collects the history for Cracker Barrel.
And he is just the greatest guy.
I just love this guy.
He's name of Joe Stewart.
And he took me around in this enormous warehouse of actual American history from all over the country.
And he looks for the real thing, all the,
the, all of the things you remember from childhood, from games to signs to, you know, fruit can labels,
all of this stuff.
We walk in and he shows me, we're in the front room and he's like, I want you to look up there.
He said, notice that Coca-Cola sign up there?
And it was a paper sign, huge paper sign.
And I said, yes.
And he said, what sticks out?
And I said, well, first of all, it says refreshing and healthful.
So that tells me it's very old.
And I said, just looking at the logo, I imagine late 1800s, first five years of the 20th century.
And he said, exactly.
Right after the turn of the century, he said it's the only one in existence.
And healthful is the key to that sign.
And he's talking to me and I'm looking at it.
And I'm like, I said, how much is that worth do you think?
And he said, well, it's only worth what somebody will pay for it.
He said, but Coca-Cola Atlanta came up and tried to buy it.
And he said, they offered half a million dollars for it.
This is years ago, half a million dollars for it.
And as he said that, I noticed that there were two sprinkler heads right in front of the sign.
And he kept talking.
And I finally, I mean, I was like, Joe, Joe, stop, please.
Please take that down right now.
I cannot even concentrate with a 500,000, one of a kind piece of American history.
with two sprinkler heads right in front of it.
But I take you through their, it's not a museum,
it's just this collection of American stuff
that is just so cool.
Then tomorrow I sit down with the CEO of Cracker Barrel.
Can we play this quickly?
Sarah, here's a tease from, for tomorrow's podcast.
You'll see it on Blaze TV and then Saturday,
wherever you get your podcast.
Listen.
The Cracker Barrel needs to feel like the Cracker Bell for today and for tomorrow.
Cracker barrel rebrand tank stock.
The changes are not being received very well on social media at all.
What sounds good?
Are you an egg guy? Are you a pancake guy?
Oh, I don't know.
Care how you vote.
I don't care.
Don't slap me across the thing.
Those can make whatever choice you want, but don't preach to me.
Had the company embraced DEI, I don't need that from my brand.
Are you surprised you weren't fired?
And we are so, I'm so sorry for the misunderstanding.
I regret it.
I don't want people to be mad at us.
My job is making people love Cracker Barrel.
I'll be mad at Cracker Barrel.
When you hear her answer to, are you surprised you haven't been fired?
When you hear her answer, that tells you everything you need to know about this scandal.
It is an amazing interview.
She was not comfortable at any point during the interview.
And I don't like conflict, but I want to.
to make sure I asked her the honest question.
So I knew, is this, is this somebody, you know, from San Francisco?
No, she's from Cincinnati.
It's just somebody from San Francisco that came in with an agenda.
And I want you to know.
And let the chips fall where they may.
That is, tomorrow on the podcast tonight, we show you the history that Cracker Barrel has
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