The Glenn Beck Program - Conspiracy Theorists Devastated Trump Isn’t Dead | 9/3/25

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Stu exposes how green companies are scamming people out of millions of dollars, all while doing nothing to help the environment. Did the Los Angeles Clippers and owner Steve Ballmer pay someone $28 million under the table to avoid the salary cap? Pat discusses the video of the White House in which someone appears to be throwing a large black bag outside the second-story window. Is the footage AI-generated, or is there a simpler explanation for it? Leftist conspiracy theorists claimed Trump died after he did not appear in front of a camera for a couple of days. America’s middle class is disappearing in Disney as “Disney adults” are taking over the theme parks. Pat and Stu discuss how the younger generations have been taught to hate capitalism and blame it for all their problems. Climate change activist Al Gore made some wild claims a few decades ago, and he has been proven wrong. In what other career can you get away with being wrong so often without losing your job? Stu and Pat discuss how climate change is the perfect scam. Leftist governors are now ignoring their own crime problems to fight back against President Trump.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Something just kind of hit my desktop here the last half an hour after going on Pat show. I was flipping through the news and a story just broke that I was not aware of. It involves sports, but it's being promoted as this big sports story, which it is. but it has to do a lot more than that, I think, here. It has to do a lot with the stuff that we talk about on a day-to-day basis on this show. Corruption, perhaps? Massive corruption I was not aware of. And it does lead into sports, which is, I guess, the big breaking news on the sports side of it.

But, honestly, like, as I'm listening to it, it's the lowest piece of the priority chain in my mind. And we'll get into that here in a couple of minutes. Plus, it was about 58 court rulings came down yesterday. Maybe we can hit that today. We're talking still about whether Donald Trump is going to go in and try to crack down on crime in a bunch of these cities. That's on the docket today. So, a lot to talk about. We'll get to it here in a second.

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This is how it's kind of being promoted as a big story today, which it is a big story if you care about sports. But looking at the details of it, it's the smallest part of the story. This is a fascinating story for our purposes here, Pat. The story comes from Pablo Tori finds out. Do you know this podcast? I do not. I think he was at ESPN for a while.

He's been a podcaster. I've seen bits and pieces of his news coverage. which seems to be like a guy who just dives deep into, you know, various sports-related stories. And I've seen a couple of them over the years. He is with the Athletic now. And he reports this. And it is being promoted as this big story about Kauai Leonard. Basically, what is being alleged is that Kauai Leonard, who's a big star basketball player, he's a 2019 wins the NBA championship with the Toronto Raptors and becomes a free agent.

Everybody in the league wants to sign this guy. He's the best player in the league at the time and is the most sought after a free agent. Everyone's making offers. Everyone's doing everything that they can. And he winds up signing with the Los Angeles Clippers,

which is surprising. Clippers don't usually land the biggest free agents, but, you know, they wind up signing Kauai Leonard and they trade for Paul George, another big star from Oklahoma City. In that trade, the MVP of the league, Shea Gilles Alexander, goes to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

So this is a massive trade in the league history. It kind of changes the power balance of the entire league. The Oklahoma City Thunder, of course, go to win the championship this past year. Again, that's not what's important to us, but just to set up why this is a big deal. In that free agent courtship by a bunch of these teams, there is a whisper, a whisper of impropriety.

A secret payment. A secret payment was the allegation. Allegation, thank you. They were talking about this as a situation where they were alleging that he got this payment sort of under the table. Why else would he go to the clippers? And there's a family member involved and, you know, a bunch of shadiness. nothing ever shown to be, you know, proven. So, long story short, as they're going through this story,

it leads back to a company called Aspiration. Are you familiar with this company? Aspiration? I'm not. No. So Aspiration is a company built by two big Democratic officials. Two guys that I, the names are familiar. one was a he was the head of i think the Arizona Democratic Party at one point another guy they're both

from Harvard you know they wanted them to run for Congress um they were well known in democratic circles and why starting this what basically turned out to be a green bank okay called aspiration they got basically every celebrity you'd recognize as an annoying green promoting leftist to talk about this company. It was a massive deal. A multi-billion-dollar company this thing became. And they had, you know, Robert Downey Jr. doing the commercials, Leonardo DiCaprio. The list of celebrities is they're all A-listers.

So they go through this whole process. And their business was interesting. Because let's say you go and you decide to start a styrofoam burning. and oil-consuming conglomerate of your own, the Pat Gray styrofoam and oil conglomerate. How did you find out about that? Oh, is that what I just started. Oh, really?

Recently, a styrofoam burning conglomerate. A company that just exists to burn styrofoam. Yes. That's a shocking. And oil. Of course. Oh, yeah. Styroform and oil.

Yes, okay. Yeah. So you started this company, Pat. Yeah. And I know your work as a styrofoam burner is very important to you, as well as oil. I don't want to leave that out. Right. But let's just say someone else might feel bad about the damage they're doing to the environment.

They want to be known as great. This is the ESG era. It's 2021, 2022 in there. You know, well, I mean, it had existed before that, but you know that era. Everyone's trying to be ESG friendly. they want to be known as a green company. So how do you do such a thing? You know, major sports franchises were working with this quote-unquote green bank that would say,

hey, we just built this massive stadium. We need to offset the carbon, right? First of all, no, you don't. Secondly, the way they would do that is they would, of course, plant trees. So you would go and you would pay this company a bunch of money to get their certification that you were ESG-friendly. and they would plant trees. Now, of course, they wouldn't actually plant trees. They would, quote, unquote, broker trees to be so stupid.

So they don't even actually do the carbon offset thing? No, they don't do it. Does anybody do it? They broker outside firms to do it. Now, I don't know. I'm sure it was done sometimes probably not done other times. You know the trees have never been planted. Come on.

Now, according to the podcast, they, They were charging five to ten times the amount that it costs. I love this stuff. Five to ten times the amount it costs to plant a tree, which is apparently about 10 to 20 cents pop. You want to plant a tree? 10 to 20 cents. Now I could do it cheaper than that, but okay, 10 to 20 cents.

All right. That's what the per tree. The ESG corporate industrial rate is typically 10 to 20 cents. They were charging these organizations, a dollar to do the same stuff. Okay. Now, you can see the scam building here, right? Yeah. So they wind up charging all this money.

They raise hundreds of millions of dollars. The company winds up growing to multiple billions of dollars in this period. And it's similar to we talked about it yesterday, the George Floyd era, where everybody's just throwing money at BLM to make themselves feel good, even though BLM is just buying houses with it, right? Like, it's that type of thing. So the same thing's going on with the ESG stuff. They are supposedly offsetting all this carbon for these massive organizations. And, you know, is any of that happening? Probably not.

But, you know, at the very least, overcharging for it. So they get all this money. They get all these donations. Eventually, one of the two Democratic officials winds up getting arrested for, like, fraud. Okay. And when that happens, a few days later, the entire thing, goes bankrupt. So aspiration. Aspiration goes

bankrupt. Completely went up. Wow. Multiple billion dollar organization. It's like an in-run thing. Yeah. All built on this, you know, I would argue, green scam from the beginning, but they're even scamming the people who wanted to be involved in the green scam. That's how bad this is. Wow. Right?

Wow. So what they find in at the end of the story here, and you can, you know, you should get, it's worth listening to it. You know, it's a fascinating tale. Pablo Tori finds out is the name in the podcast if you don't know it. But they had

in the bankruptcy filing they list the companies that they owe the most money to. Third or fourth on the list is a company called the KL2 Inc. or something. Kauai Leonard.

He's number two. He has an, it's some LLC where they owe him $7 million. Now, Now, in theory, okay, maybe he was a celebrity endorser. They had a marketing deal with him. Well, that was what they said happened.

However, no one can find any example of him ever talking about this at all. So did they pay him the $21 million? Because he was $28 million total that was paid to him in secret, right, that nobody knew about. And he did no work for. They could avoid the salary cap. and so it's just endorsement money, which doesn't count toward the salary cap. That's what they're alleging. Basically, you can't just pay somebody extra above the salary cap or it would be unfair.

The salary cap wouldn't mean anything. But their endorsement deals are separate. But you can't promise those to players, all that would be in the salary cap. So what the alleged, and this is all alleged, but the allegation here is that they basically, you know, Steve Ballmer, who is another richest man in the world, owns the clippers. Microsoft. He's involved in this aspiration thing at some level. They wind up saying, hey, Kauai will give you $28 million basically under the table.

Yeah. Now, instead of just, I don't know, faking a few tweets about it, which would at least cover your butt, they do nothing. He does nothing. He never says anything about it. He never mentions it in any interview. He never does anything for aspiration, ever. Nothing.

That's amazing. At least as far as he's been able. to be found so far. He gets absolutely nothing out of the deal. And he never tweets about it and never mentions it in any context and gets $28 million for this. How hard would it be? Just tweet.

Yeah. To throw out a few. I don't know. Maybe. Throw it. Get your people to throw up a couple of messages and at least you could justify it. But they never bother to do that, which is why it becomes a sports scandal. But like, step back for a second.

First of all, how funny is this that people and I hate, you know, there are people who have really positive hopes and dreams and really believe this environmental stuff and really want to help. And in some ways, you kind of feel bad for him. In other ways, you just have to laugh because here are people who donated their money, who gave their money to this, who paid this organization for this greenwashing. Yeah. And millions and millions of dollars that were supposed to go to plant trees went to Guy Leonard so he could go on the Los Angeles Clippers.

Wow. And never tweet about this organization. I mean, it's almost this, I can say this. These are all allegations. We'll see how it plays out. But this type of stuff is absolutely infesting this world. This world of green companies, it's almost alchemy, Pat. It is like this, this potential like starting point to just print money.

because the context of the business is you're planting trees somewhere in Africa to fight back against an invisible gas. What an incredible... I mean, you... Gordon Gecko dreamed of coming up with an idea like that. Yeah. You want to talk about all the greatest scam...

Bernie Madoff would have been like, oh, wait, hold on, I don't even have to fake the documents. This is beyond... Ponzi would have absolutely... adored an idea like this. Enron did more work than this. At least they were doing something.

Yeah. Sort of. Sort of. Kind of. Kind of. At least people got energy. Wow. This is accomplishing nothing.

It is a giant, it's a rounding error in a massive mathematical equation. If you believe every bit of it. If you believe only the best things in every single piece of Al Gore's, uh, uh, uh, uh, movie and speeches and all the stuff he's done. At the very best, it is a rounding error of a giant mathematical equation, which many of its inputs are self-reported from China. Was there anything else that Aspiration did other than plant trees? That was their main part of their business, other than make commercials with celebrities.

Incredible. Just a fascinating story of breaking out. There's going to be, because I think you're going to get this first layer of this being sports. But conservative media and hopefully some mainstream journalists are going to pick up on this as well and dive into it. It's much bigger than that. I mean, you know, the people who were running this organization were endorsed by Bill Clinton. Money from the Clinton Foundation was pouring into this organization. There's another thing that should be investigated. Yes. The Clinton Foundation. Yes. That's a massive scam as well.

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You don't know what it is. Something comes out. Something comes out of one of the windows. on the second floor of the White House that faces 15th Street or something. So something is thrown out the window. And then Peter Ducey asks the president about it. He says, I don't know anything about that. Can you show me?

And so Peter Ducey comes and shows it to him on his phone. And he said, that must be AI because you can't open those windows. Okay. So he's just reacting to this in real time. Yeah. And, you know, it made sense because those windows are bulletproof. Right? So you don't just open windows that are... He said they weigh like 600 pounds or something.

And so you don't just open up the window and throw things out of the White House. So you don't know if it's AI or if it's something real or what in the world it would have been that was thrown out of the second story window at the White House. I don't know, but it's a weird story. But Peter Ducey also asked President Trump. Well, wait, hold on, before you go off on that one. I had heard, though, that the White House confirmed it was real. Oh, did they? Because I hadn't...

Okay, so we don't know yet where the settles. That's what my understanding was that they said it actually was real. And did they say what it was? Garbage? Is that... Just garbage? Thrown out the second-story window at the White House? That's not...

It's a weird... That would be a weird thing to do. I didn't see the video, but was it like a black plastic bag type of thing. It was dark. You couldn't really tell because it was from so far away. What's the allegation? It was a corpse? What are they trying to say?

It's not big enough for a corpse. So I don't think they're trying to even allege that somebody's throwing dead bodies out of the second-story window. Maybe some of the leftover cocaine from the Biden White House was found. Maybe. Somebody's like, let's get rid of this right now. I love how the media is interested in this, but they were not at all interested in the actual cocaine actually felt found in the actual White House. Right. We didn't care who that was.

No. I was there. Can't figure it out, Pat. You will never know. This is the most document. There's cameras everywhere. Well, not there. Not there.

Not in that spot. Why would you have cameras at the White House? That's true. That's true. So, yeah, garbage. Is that the explanation, really, of the... Let me see if I could find an updated... Look for them because... I don't know why you would be throwing out garbage from the second story window at the White House, but...

It's kind of funny, though. It is funny. Because that's what you do when you just don't feel like carrying it all the way down. The bags leaking. It's kind of... Okay. Throw it out the window. You wouldn't think the White House would necessarily engage in such a thing.

I think so, no. It's relatable. Yes. I mean, we've all done it. We've all done it. Look, I'm not walking this thing all the way downstairs and out to the garbage can. I'm just going to throw it out the window. Gravity always wins.

Throw the thing out the window. It'll land. You deal with it down there. It makes a lot of sense. It's called efficiency. We're always complaining about the lack of government efficiency. That's incredibly efficient. very much so.

The other thing is, and we'll get into this in a second, but all of the reports of the president's health right now, all of a sudden, the news media is all over the health of the president. They couldn't be more concerned about what's wrong with a president right now. I mean, they were totally fine with a president who lost his mind and could barely walk for four years. But now that a president has a bruise, on his right hand. Now they're all over. What is going on

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They weren't concerned at all for four years when they should have been. Here's a guy with dementia. Here's a guy who could barely stand. And half the time, we played a montage of Joe Biden walking through sand. It looked like the guy was going to collapse at any second. Oh, is that real? I did think that one was AI. Oh, my gosh.

I thought that one was AI. No. That was a real clip of him walking through sand? Yeah. Play cut seven. This is Biden falling asleep. This is Biden falling upstairs. And he'll, whoops.

Oh, boy. Look out. Okay, the three times that he tripped, climbing the stairs at Air Force One. And then he finally gets their salute. And then he falls over the sandbags. That looked like it hurt. That's got to hurt.

That was a big one in a lot of the books about the election, by the way. And he's helped up. That particular incident. Yeah. Okay. And then this, this is walking through this. Okay. I mean, look at that.

Is that, is that healthy? That's a real clue. That feral, man? Yeah. Yeah, he and Jill walking on the beach. Sharp as a tack. Delaware. Wow.

Sharp as attack. Nobody, 20-year-olds can't keep up with the guy. Mr. President. What are you going to say to Trump on Wednesday? Mr. President, why can't you walk? It's black. Anyway. Then he trips over the color black, I guess.

You can't be expected to. He almost fell face-versed. on the stairs in wherever that was. China, I think, or Japan. Then he falls up the stairs again. Yep. Oh, boy. Look out. He touched down not even four hours ago.

That was a quick trip. And again, almost fell. Oh, somebody has to grab his arm, help him. I mean, falls again up the stairs. He really had a problem with the stairs. He really did. of police officers. She even mentions it here.

The president did have a slight trip there as he's boarding Air Force One. Thank you, but there's no problem. Don't worry about it. Oh, this is my favorite one right here. I love this. On the bike, he just falls over. And, oh, boy. Oh, golly.

That's the best one. A little fake jog there. Then he did all. Then he tripped up these stairs. It acts like it ended out of purpose. Then he falls asleep. at several meetings. You're not going to stay awake the whole time.

No, I mean, that's too much to ask. And then here he is at Normandy falling asleep. Respectful. Oh, man. That's a lot. And they didn't seem to be interested in it at all. Not at all. But because Donald Trump has a bruise on his right hand,

they're completely out of their minds with what's wrong with this president. plus he's dragging his leg. Have you heard that? He's dragging. Let's see him get out of it. Yeah, go ahead and show the getting out of the. I mean, I think he might have something wrong with his knee. It looks like he might have an issue with joint pain or something.

I don't know, but he's not dragging his leg. Unless the definition of dragging is different than I've believed it to be my entire life. And there he's doing the little Trump dance. and then he I don't know is there does it look like something's wrong

with his name maybe a little bit yeah maybe he's got might have some issue and that's you know not necessarily a significant thing again

what's fascinating about this is how they didn't care that the didn't care at all in the couple of the tell alls about the election

that have come out since the 2024 election the particularly the one where he trips over the sandbags was a massive thing

that that's what a lot of panic started inside the campaign with the Democrats really thought Biden like this could happen at any time if this guy falls down again we have real real problems now of course there's these little stumbles but like the bike one was really bad that that very bad the sandbag one was really bad yeah where he just really falls over completely uh what's fascinating about Trump is honestly I I might prefer if he had a little bit less energy I I have to cover everything he talks about it makes me tired. And it really like at 79 years old, the pace that this guy keeps up is fascinating. I think that is something you, whether you like his policies or you don't like

his policies, you really have to acknowledge. You might think, like you can't be a real dictator if you're super duper lazy and not getting anything done and falling asleep all the time. It's hard to be a dictator, right? You know, they keep accusing him of being Hitler. You need a lot of energy to be that guy. And, you know, I don't know. I will say if you're going to be the guy that runs everything and you're going to be the person who's cracking down all the time, you have to have a lot of energy. I think that's quite obvious he does have. Does he have any problem? I don't know. But I mean, that's never been a, there's never been an issue. We had presidents who were in wheelchairs. That's not the problem. It's not really all. Like with Biden, it wasn't

about the fact that he stumbled every once in a while or even that he was old. It was just that that was an indication building on top of. Yeah, it was one of many indications. What we had seen for so long and his lack of ability to do even the basic functions of the presidency, like showing up in public. Yeah. Communicating. Doing interviews, press conferences. The media is so concerned. Here's Jen Saki talking about Trump being in hiding for days. Really can't make this stuff up sometimes. And look, we may never know, but I don't. Donald Trump suddenly spent a week hiding entirely from the American public. A week?

But you don't actually need baseless online conspiracies to explain why he might not want to show his face in public right now. I love the, they're actually entertaining this as it's a real thing. Yeah. Absolutely. If you're not obsessively online, you might not know that the left was basically insinuating that the president had died for the last week. They had come up with this conspiracy theory. that he had died because he hadn't made a lot of public appearances for a week. Now, the man does love the camera and does love to be out in front talking to people.

It does this all the time. So him not doing that for a week is mildly notable, right? Like, I mean, I could see why you notice it because he's always out talking to people. But, you know, people also can take vacations. He's playing some golf, it seems like, during that time. You know, people, it's not all the work of the president is not done in front of cameras. And so it's very easily explainable. And it was easily explained by the man when he showed up alive to things over the past couple of days.

Yes. And Peter Ducey asked him about the reports over the weekend that he was actually dead, cut three. About a big viral social media trend over the weekend. How did you find out over the weekend that you were dead? You see that? No. People didn't see it for a couple days. 1.3 million user engagements as of Saturday morning about your demise.

Really? I didn't see it. You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy, but last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful. They went very well, like this is going very well. And then I didn't do any for two days. And they said, there must be something wrong with him. Biden wouldn't do them for months. I wouldn't see him. And nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him. And we know he wasn't in the greatest of shape. I heard that. I get reports. Now, you knew I did an interview that lasted for about an hour and a half with somebody, and everybody saw that was on one of your competitors. It was a daily caller. He did some interview in the period where they said he was missing.

So he actually was doing things. I don't know if they didn't release it. Then maybe they were holding it for a couple of days. I don't know exactly how that played out. But it's just nonsense. And I think it's wishcast. I think this is what they want to happen. It is. They want bad things to happen to this guy. This is why you see so many people cheering on when he was almost killed. They were cheering him on.

Right. Cheering on the assassins. There's no shortage of this stuff if you go online. You can find a lot of people just rooting outwardly for his demise. Yeah. There's also conspiracy theory on the left. You know, the right is supposed to be so conspiratorial. There's a conspiracy theory on the left that the entire assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania was a fake.

Oh, yeah. It was fake. That still lives, that one. With a, yeah, there were, I mean, there's just more coming out about that over the weekend. That he was shot with a rubber bullet. There was also the glass shattering theory. Yeah. Right.

The bullet struck a teleprompter, which then deflected glass at his, Which was just proven a long time ago, like the next day. Yeah. And it's, look, a lot of people in a moment like that come up with reports and theories. And like that's, you know, somewhat. I would again say it's better to be right than first. But a lot of people come out and just, you know, wildly speculate. Again, a man was actually killed in this scenario.

Yeah. He was struck with a real bullet. It wasn't a rubber. They didn't use a real bullet on him and a rubber bullet on the president. I mean, this stuff is so nonsensical. But it's a coping mechanism. mechanism for the left. I mean, when that happened, it was blatantly clear that there was no way Joe Biden was winning

that election. I mean, it was already clear that he was going to lose that election. But once we hit a time where, you know, the president was almost assassinated on stage, and not just that, but also then stood immediately up and said, fight, fight, fight. And one of the most incredible moments in the history of the country, there was no way Joe Biden was going to. defeat him. And so I think there was a big coping mechanisms that that grew out of that moment. Yeah. Of course, they switched candidates. It got closer for a while. There's a bunch of stuff that happened after that. What what a freaking year that was. But this is just craziness. People are so

obsessed with him. I can't understand it. We are supposed to be a country that does not obsess about the president like this. Right. We are, that's not the way our government is set up. He's just one part of the government. It's not supposed to be a dominating feature of your life. And for millions and millions and millions of people on the left, that's all I think about every day. One of your favorite guys and mine was actually rooting for his demise. Tim Walls cut four. Check this out.

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It's like a janitor or somebody. We just saw a leg sticking out of the bag. And so we do know now it was a corpse. Well, that's solved then. Yeah. So all these leftists freaking out about AI. It was just a dead body. Leave them alone.

What are you going to do? Carry the body all the way down the stairs? No, that's too much. There's an open window. You just toss it out. Gravity brings it to the ground. You pick it up when you get down there. That's how you, this is how you evacuate a body from your building.

Now, so there, and the left is trying to make this into yet another controversy with Donald Trump. They're saying he lied. about it being AI, which as you blatantly, when you see the video of him seeing it, he didn't even know what happened. He didn't know. He sees a video of it on a phone. He goes, I don't know. That's AI. You can't even open those windows like that. It does make sense. If you can't open the windows, that nobody opened the window to throw something out. It must have been AI. Right. So the leftist first went and started posting pictures of these windows being open. Like there's a picture with Reagan and Nancy waving to people outside of one of these windows.

See, you can't open the windows. That was their first. first step. Now we have an email from the White House. Again, a terrible, terrible thing. They're, hiding this body they dropped out of the second floor really well here. And really nobody's even alleging it was a body. It wasn't big enough to be a body. No, it looks like a small, like a bathroom garbage can bag. It's like a tiny, yeah. I would actually get a little bit upset at the contractor who did it potentially because it's just, it was a light enough bag that you should have carried it down. But that being said, a spokesperson from the White House confirmed by email that the clip was authentic, explained what it showed. He said a contractor who was doing regular

maintenance while the president was gone through it out the window. So that's the end of the story. Okay. Is that a normal thing? Do they throw things out the White House window a lot? Or do they normally walk it down and throw it away? My guess is this is speculation on my part, Pat. Okay. This stuff happens all the time when you're a contractor. I mean, I've seen it happen. I worked at jobs when I was younger where I threw things out the window because I didn't feel like carrying them downstairs. This is not a... I've done it at my house, I'm sure. In fact, I know I have thrown it off our porch because I didn't feel like carrying it down through the house.

So it probably happens. And then someone who is working a job at the White House was then told there are different rules at the White House. We can't just throw stuff out the window. That's probably the end of it. Somebody who normally does that at a job and would normally do that with no problems, needs to realize there's cameras. people talk about it. Just a little correction for next time. And back. I'll tell you about the burn of laundry.

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Because adults are ahead of them This is a big thing Yeah I guess are you Do you know I know there's a couple people around here Who love to go to Disney as adults who we've talked to about this in the past.

I'm sort of fascinated by it. It's not to say that there's not something fun to do at Disney for adults, but like if I'm going to take a vacation, it's not my number one choice. Now, our own Glenn Beck, a big, big Disney nerd. Yes. And I don't know that he goes there anymore. He kind of got tossed off of them maybe in the woke era for good.

I don't know that he still goes back. But for a long time, he would go back and he'd bring the kids, but also kind of like not bring the kids. You know, like not really, they didn't have to be there for him to enjoy it. He just loved Disney. And a lot of people are like that. I don't quite get it. Do you get it?

Yeah, I like Disney. Would you go by, like if you had a choice, you're planning a vacation, no kids involved. You and Jackie are going to go. Uh-huh. Are you like, all right, let me just pitch this to you, Disney. I would. He would. Yeah, I would.

I would. We just went in February with my grown. son and his wife. And we went to Disney and to the new Universal. That's interesting. I see it much more as a kid's pursuit. Like we took our kid to Disneyland right before COVID. That was their one trip.

Congratulations. Hope you liked it. And they're the perfect age for it. It was fantastic. And I went as a kid many times, not many times, three or four times. We had a relative who worked there. So we got there a couple of times, maybe more than our finances. would have allowed to in a normal circumstance.

But it was, you know, great. But I just, it doesn't seem like the thing that if I'm going to plan a vacation for a couple of adults, that wouldn't be my top choice. But I mean, for many people it is. So that's fine, right? And Disney loves that. Disney wants you there.

Disney wants adults to come because, obviously, it ups their numbers. But it ups their numbers in a few different ways. Because basically, families, typically go there cheaply. Families go there with a budget because typically they're, you know, you're younger, you don't have as much money. You're trying to pay off maybe a house. You've got a couple of kids. You know college is on the way. So families typically go to Disney and they're watching their pennies as much as they can, right? They've come up with a budget. They're trying to fit it in.

And that has always been one of the main driving forces of Disney. People who make one trip every three or four years and save up for that Disney trip. Yes. What has happened is a bunch of adults have decided they want to go and they enjoy that experience and they've got a lot more money. Now, there are multiple groups here. Could be people like our own Pat Gray. We're living off that cookie money.

Yeah. McKexy cookie cash just flowing in all the time. I mean, it's just rolling in the dough. The fact that you took not one but two Rolls Royces to work today, Pat, I thought was a little egregious. Excessive? I thought it was a tad excessive. I don't even know how you drove.

Would you have one leg in one and one leg in the other, and you had to put your arms down and drive the steering wheels? I don't even know how you do it. It's hard. Two at once is difficult. So you got all that going on with Pat. Also, big fans of Disney tend to be gay individuals, and they often have large amounts of disposable income.

So they are spending large amounts of money at Disney as well. Now, Disney, of course, as a business has reacted to these truths. And they've said, hey, what if we charge these people a lot more and give them better experiences? Right. We'll give them upgraded experiences. They can skip the lines. They get the fancier restaurants, the nicer hotels, all the bells and whistles, which, again, as a capitalist, I totally adore.

But what's happening is the complaint is, at least, that now the average families who are going there, are having the line cut constantly by people like Pat with this kexy cookie money. Right. You know, where Pat pays, and if you don't know this, Pat on the back of the snickerdoodle, was able to shut down large portions of the park. So just him and his family could walk around by themselves. You're not even allowed in the park. Right.

We rented the whole place. He just didn't even care. Whole place. You didn't care about the family. You saw the families outside. I laughed at them. Yeah, you laughed at them. I laughed at them.

And then a Disney employee came up and said, hey, just so you know, I know you have this all rented out, but you can let some of those families in. You're not even going to see them if you want to. And you said, no. No. No. Let their filth. I wish. That would be great.

It would be fun. That would be great. So instead, what the actual thing that is happening is all these people are paying up for great experiences and it's kind of leaving the average person who can barely afford it, you know, leaving them in the lurch. And that's the accusation. A big story. I think it was the New York Times or Wall Street Journal maybe that had it recently. And one thing I was fascinated by was this little nugget in there, Pat. And this is something we've talked about before.

But this says for the most of the park's history, Disney was priced to welcome people across the income spectrum, embracing the motto everyone is a VIP. Now, I went to Disney. I don't ever remember it being even close to affordable. Maybe it was at one point. No. Never when I went. Right. Our family could never actually afford it.

We were always in dead after. And it was a treat beyond treats, the magic kingdom, right? Yeah. It was supposed to be a once, maybe twice in a lifetime type of experience. I mean, if you're just buying the all-park passport, and that's what you probably want so that you can go to all the different areas. Yeah. It's $1,500 plus tax. Wait, for how long?

Uh, for a month? Okay, so you get, oh, no, that's a full year of access to all four theme parks, two water parks, and other sports experiences. I mean, that's not, I mean, that's a lot. If you're living in Orlando, very sensible, actually. Obviously, if you're coming to Disney from Texas or Montana or California, you're not going to buy that. I would have definitely thought that was more expensive. I would too, frankly. Yeah, I would too.

This is what, this happens a lot. So what, do they have a daily price in there as you're looking at it? for the daily. Let me push you through the rest of this and we'll get to the actual price. But they said in doing so, this everyone is a VIP philosophy, created a shared American culture by providing the same experience to every guest. The family that pulled up in the new Cadillac, stood in the same lines, ate the same food, rode the same rides, the family that arrived in or used Chevy. Back then, America's large and thriving middle class was the focus of most company's efforts and firmly in the driver's seat. that middle class has so eroded in size and in purchasing power.

And the wealth of our top earners has so exploded that America's most important market today is it's affluent. Listen to the communism there. Because there are rich people, it is hurting others. Right. Because they're making more money? How does that hurt me in any way? And I never remember. How much money have you lost?

Because Elon Musk has $300 billion. That's a bad example because currently Tesla's in the middle of taking my money. So I would say that is not a good example. But generally speaking, I would agree with you. Yeah, it's nothing. They don't take anything from you. This is not a pie that they take in too big a piece. It's a bakery where you bake your own cash pie.

Yeah, and you grow it. Right. But the pie grows. It doesn't get divided. This is a either-or scenario. They want you to believe that if one person does well, another person must do poorly. And it's just not true. It's not true.

And of course, it's not true. They say, by the way, I also don't remember a time in our history where America's most affluent was not the most important market. Like, yes, there are more people. But, like, you know, the wealthy in every society are going to draw the most expensive experiences. Obviously. Right?

Like, that's the way it's always been. Yeah. Yeah. That's just, I mean, I just don't, maybe I'm, Glenn is the Disney historian. So maybe he'd be able to tell us a time. And maybe it was when Walt was alive where they really targeted only the middle class and didn't give any upgraded experiences. As long as I can remember, though, they've always had some level of upgraded experience for people who want to pay more. Where you can get a pass that helps you avoid the huge line and you can go right up to the front because they've got a separate line for it.

Yeah. And not just Disney, but all parts. have that. Yeah, and I will say, when I went as a kid, we got the very basic pass. We stood in very long lines. Yeah. I still loved it. Had a great time. Yeah. When I went with my kids in 20, it was, it was Halloween right before COVID. We went there. And I, I said to myself, number one, this is the only time I'm going to be doing this with the kids. Number two, I will pay almost any conceivable amount to not deal with all of the hassles. So I don't remember. I don't remember what thing I bought. It wasn't the most expensive thing. I know people, maybe friendly Disney

historians who have had much better experiences than I had at Disney. But I was able to skip some of the lines. You get the extra passes. You can get in line and multiple things at the same time. That's the type of stuff that you can buy there. And it winds up costing you several hundred dollars extra. It is not the cheapest thing in the world. It's not a mortgage payment for most people. But it was a, it was expensive. And I did pay up. the better experience. I would say it was, you know, much more enjoyable because I was just thinking about, like, gosh, these lines are going to be. Some of the lines, you get there and it's, they'd be an hour, an hour and a half.

And I'm not waiting at. My kids were young at the time. I'm not waiting an hour and a half line with them. That's not happening. At that new, uh, universal park, we waited four hours in line for the new Harry Potter thing. I mean, whatever it's called. There isn't anything in the world. I would wait four hours in line for.

Me neither. I would never do it again, and it certainly wasn't worth it. But it was agonizing. How much time in the ride did they spend on transphobia? Did they get into that a lot? Did they say, they didn't really get into it? Really? Because that's all I hear about J.K. Raleigh?

She said I had no other life experience, no accomplishments, other than the fact that she's a transphobe. Yeah, I know. That's what my understanding was these days. That's, okay, so you, wait, so you literally say to, We literally were in line for four hours. I wouldn't wait four hours for the Super Bowl. I know. Why would you do this?

We didn't think it was going to be that long, but sure enough. I mean, it's kind of cool because you see some interesting things along the way. They've made the line enjoyable there. Four hours enjoyable? No. No. No. An hour enjoyable. Maybe 90 minutes would have been enjoyable.

Four hours was not enjoyable. At two and a half hours. did you think I got to get out of this line? I'm going to pull on the plug on it. Yes. But then I thought, but then I've wasted two and a half hours. Right. So I'm going to stick it out.

The cost fallacy. You were your example. You were legitimately an example of it. Yep. Exactly. Did you know at two and a half hours that you had another hour and a half? No, because I would have left. If I would have known, I would have left.

Understandable. Understandable. Yeah. So they say the middle class is so eroded in size and purchasing power that, And rich people got richer. America's most important market today is the affluent. So they provide a link, which I like when they do that, right? When they're making a claim like the middle class has so eroded in size and purchasing power,

that they're making a claim like that, you can't just say that. Now, oftentimes the New York Times will just do that. But this time, they provided a link. A link goes to a Pew Research study, which is the state of the American middle class. and they do show that in 1971, 61% of the American people were in the middle class. Now, and it's less than that now? It's 51%. Oh, my, it's gone down 10%.

10% in 60 years. First of all, number one on my observation list would be that does not really tell me it has so eroded that. our economy has collapsed. Right. From 61 to 51. That seems like a difference, a notable difference. I don't know that I would say it's so eroded. It's changing our entire society.

But okay, let's take that. That's an opinion, I suppose. If you really believe that's really eroded, it's still the majority of our country. But okay, you want to say it's really eroded, that's a big deal. I wouldn't call that so eroded. But okay. Mm-hmm. But there has to be.

be a follow-up question to this. Because if you say the middle class is going away, what is the logical follow-up question to that, Pat? Where'd they go? Where did they go? Did they go to poverty? Abject poverty? They're the poor class now.

Now, that is certainly the insinuation. Uh-huh. Of course it is. Insinuation is, we used to have people who were middle class. Now all these rich people got richer, the top one-tenth of a percent. And that pushed all the people out of the middle class. into the poor class. Right.

What they, of course, don't tell you is that over 80% of the people who left the middle class went to the upper class. That's fantastic. That is fantastic. The upper income has risen from 11% to 19% in that period, which you'd think was a really good thing. Yeah. You would think, you would suggest, and by the way, there are measures of this, this is just the Pue measure. There are measures of this that show it even more dramatically. But we'll use this one.

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Welcome to the table. It's Pat and Stuford Glenn today. By the way, there's more to this eroding middle class story. And again, this is their link. This is what they use to support their argument. And they make it sound like it's really awful. Like we're collapsing as a society because the middle class has gone away. So the middle class, as we point out, has eroded.

80% of those people who left the middle class went from the middle class to the upper class. The upper class, as they point out, has grown in income from 144,000 on average in inflation-adjusted dollars to $256,000, which is a 78% increase. You might say, well, that might be it. Like they're going up. And the people in the middle class, while there might be fewer of them, they're making low. less will know they in 1970, again, inflation adjusted dollars, $66,000 was the middle class in 1970. Now it's $106,000. Oh, wow. That defines the middle class. This is average, up 60%. So slightly less than the upper class, but still up 60% in inflation adjusted dollars. And you might say,

well, there were 2% of the people who were in the middle class and have dropped to the lower class. And that sucks, right? That's bad. But the reason seems to be the income numbers have just changed because in the lower class, their income has increased from $22,000 in 1970, inflation adjusted to $35,000 in 2022. Because the actual number was probably more like, what, $5,000 in 1970? For what? For the lower class? And now it's up to... No, it was $22,000. Right, $22,000 inflation adjusted. So not inflation adjusted numbers, you were saying. Probably more like five. It was probably more like $5,000. Yeah. So 22,000 to 35,000, again, we want to use inflation adjusted because that's an important measure, but a 55% increase there. So what you've seen is

increases between 55 and 78% across all three income groups. The vast majority of the people who have migrated out of the middle class have gone to the upper class. And the people who have gone from the middle class to the lower class largely seems to be a piece of strange you know, economic data that just means that the lower class has become more affluent, if you will. Yeah. Right. They've almost up 55% in income. So it's catching some of the people that would normally in 1970 have been considered middle class.

I mean, it is insane how these people, they just had, you just throw out a thing like that. You can just say it without any support. Oh, middle class is eroding. And everyone goes, gosh, yeah. It just nods. Look at the details as. to what has happened. This is Glenn Beck.

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and some of the news media that backs them up on this stuff and writes articles like the middle class is completely evaporating. Really? And it's partially true. It's gone down 10%, but 8% of the 10% has gone to the upper class, not the lower class. And the lower class is wealthier than they were back in this golden age of 1970.

Of 1970. So excited about from the 70s, which I kind of remember is not the, best period? No. We don't know back at that historically as a golden age. We're much better off today than we were then. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't cultural things that you might not like. You know, there's obviously, you know, you would say...

Life was simpler that, probably. Maybe, yeah. You'd point, I think, to the rise of the, you know, the internet and social media as maybe a negative. You'd look at, you know, the falling of faith as a real negative in our society. things to look at and say, gosh, that's really bad. That being said, this idea that everything is terrible all the time is an obsession in our world.

And it's really just not, it's not accurate. It's not true. You know, the way I always think about this, my ultimate example of this is there was a time in which people actually owned slaves, right? Yeah. And a lot of people weren't even angry about it. Many were. We created a, you went up having a civil war, certainly in large part, based on that.

Now our society freaks out about the statues of the people who were doing that at the time. Right. Right. Now we're freaked out because people who may have held slaves hundreds of years ago have statues in parks, nice parks, made of them. Right. And we need to tear them down. and that's our big, you know, that's the way that we're being thwarted today by these mean statues that aren't doing anything. They're just standing there. And I think a lot of times we just lose

sense of this. That doesn't mean that things are great. You know, like, we can complain. I think what we're typically complaining about, though, in the United States in particular, is where we could be as opposed to where we are. Right. Like, you might say to yourself, hey, right now, you know, 80% of people make over whatever the number, $35,000 a year in that one study. And we wish it was 90. We think it could be 95 or 100 if we weren't so insane with our spending or if we weren't, you know, if some of the jobs that we had from years past would have held up and the industries would have held up. Whatever your complaint is about the economy, it's not to say that there's nothing to it.

It's just that we really do lose sight quickly at the wonders of what, you know, capitalism has brought us. It has created miracles throughout not only this country, but the entire world. And we have one party, which is now turning to socialism in a much more overt sense than even the past. And the other party that I think is like, I don't. don't know how to describe it. On the right, like, I think the right largely still understands and appreciates what capitalism has brought us, but there's certainly a finicky group that has sprouted out. That is, it's just as it's not good enough, and we need to change lots, giant swaths of it to get

better. And I don't agree with that analysis, but, you know, at least it's theoretically an argument. I just usually have been an argument that's been made on the left. And sadly, our youth. it seems have been propagandized to believe that capitalism is evil and that socialism is the way to go. I just saw a poll fairly recently in the last few weeks where like 1834 year olds favor socialism over capitalism.

I mean, it was close, but they actually favored. It shouldn't be. And it should be that capitalism was ahead, but it wasn't in the. particular poll. And that's because the left has done such an effective job with their Marxism and with their propaganda that they've demonized capitalism now. And so our kids really think it's wrong to strive for something better in your life. The Democrats always talk about the fact that people aspire to become middle class. Who aspires to be in the middle class? I don't know anybody.

You aspire to be wealthy, usually, don't you? Yeah, right, exactly. If you can, you're like, oh, you care about some money. No, we're talking about the economy. You aspire to many things, a wonderful marriage, wonderful children, a great job, a great family life, all those things. And you don't always realize all those things. You don't always. You try it, though.

But no one says, you know what, I aspire to a mediocre marriage. I want to make $45,000 and have a mediocre marriage. Right. A pretty okay one. I want my job to not be too good. I don't want to be super happy. I don't want to really accomplish all the things I've wanted to accomplish. Just some of them. Right. Right. You know, you don't strive and aspire for a mediocre no. Marriage or income. Look, that doesn't mean that your whole life is focused on getting a high income. But usually you would rather have higher than lower. That's just the way it typically works.

And I always found an interesting part of this phenomenon was the four. aspire. There's an automobile they had out for a while and it was just not the automobile you aspired for. Now, it didn't mean that it didn't get you around. I'm sure it was fine. It was a vehicle that I could have seen myself. I owned a

Ford tempo when a Ford tempo was something that existed. We all had cars like that when we were younger. We didn't necessarily aspire to the Ford tempo. You know, the Ford Tempo was fine. The Ford aspire was probably fine. I don't know. I never drove one. But I didn't aspire to it. I didn't aspire to it.

was very happy with it. Yes. Yes. It was better than not having a car at all, which was what my alternative was. The first thing you aspire to is having a car. Yeah. Right. Then you aspire to having a better car. You don't aspire. You know, I would like, now that I've achieved this, I'm going to stay here forever. I don't know the way I think the American people think, but they are legitimately depressed about the economy. There's a new story in the Wall Street Journal. Americans lose faith and that hard work leads to economic gains. Wow. This is really dangerous for a society.

This, the disconnect between these two things is number one, which what has set us apart from Europe largely over the past 50 years. This has split over and over again, this poll is the same. Can you, if you work hard, do you get ahead? We all are always like 70% yes. And Germany and France are always 70% no. It's all it's just things you can't control life is being done to you Mm-hmm that was the European attitude attitude was we're making our lives we're making that we're making Life is what we make of it that was our attitude

This is changing now a new poll in the Wall Street Journal people like me have a good chance of improving our standard of living This is just a hope standard right This has been you know 75% agreement between 75 and you know in you know in periods of, you know, recession. Maybe it drew down to 55. It was in 2018, you know, Trump first term at about 65, maybe 70%, just eyeballing a chart. It is now down to 25%. 25? Collapsed. Wow. Now, it does seem like COVID was a major factor in that. That people were just, their entire

perception of the world was changed by what happened after COVID. This is why we ranted about it constantly during that period. It was a massive change to our society. But it does seem to be that period where that had separated. Same thing when it comes to actual versus predicted consumer sentiments. So this is measuring, hey, we have a bunch of economic stats. And we have a formula that says this is what people should feel about the economy when we have these economic stats. That has, these two things ran basically exactly together from you know the 2000 all the way up until COVID

now it's completely separated to the point now where it's 50 points different it used to be no more than five points different now it's 50 points different on the scale where the economy and the Trump economy is pretty darn good

the sentiment pretty darn bad why this is a total change of our society, I think of the way that we're reading these numbers and feeling these numbers is maybe the way to state that. And you see over and over again that people just don't understand. If you ask people how many people are in poverty compared to the old days, people think it's increased. People think those numbers have gone up when the exact opposite has happened by

every measure. Not to mention, I should point out, that capitalism has improved the things that we think of. Like, if we go back to the, you know, 1970, what percentage of people had televisions? Well, yes, that's increased from 1970 to today, as you would expect. However, also, the televisions are a lot better, right? Like, they're able to do incredible things that weren't even thought of in 1970. Yeah. Right. And so you get not only, you could say, well, oh, we've gone from 95% ownership to 99% ownership. So what? Well, yeah, but there's more to that story. Everything in that table has has gotten even better. So you look at...

Yeah, I'd like to see you put a 1970 television on the wall. Imagine that. That would be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. With the gigantic tube that they weighed 700 pounds. You couldn't even lift that thing. It was a cabinet.

Yeah. Oh, God, I love that television. It was the one I grew up watching. I loved them to at the time. At our house. And that was in the 80s. And it was one that my dad kept. all the years after that.

It was still in his basement to like the day he did. Right before he died, he finally gave it up. And I just remember being like, good, God, like this thing, it was, it must have weighed 300 pounds. Yeah. You need a moving crew

to get this thing to go anywhere. Yeah. If you slid it on the floor, it would dig into the flooring. It would rip it up. Yep. That's what it was. And now you could go to Walmart

and get a, a 70 inch high definition smart television. That's an inch wide. That's an inch wide and it weighs like 20 pounds. Yeah.

You put the thing on the wall. Yeah. You just hang it there. It's incredible. It's always getting better. And like this sort of thing is just, I think, dismissed these days by so many people.

Yeah, it is. It is. It's being like, ah. You know, so what? Television's don't make a society. Of course they don't. But of course they don't. There's a thousand things you could name

that have improved our lives. Yeah. since 1970. That doesn't change your heart, right? Like, it doesn't change. If you've lost faith and have a better television, that's not a great change. No.

You know, but it is important to understand that these things do get better over time in major ways, and we lose sight of it completely. Yeah. AAA 727 BECK. Glenn Beck. Blinds.com completely changed how you can buy window treatments

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And the middle class is disappearing. Well, yeah, 80% of them have gone to the upper class. So, so laughable. And you look at the effects of capitalism over a long period of time. they are really amazing. It's staggering. Yeah. In the 1800s, 80% of the world lived in what they call extreme poverty below a dollar 90 a day.

And that did decrease. Almost not quite, but almost cut in half in the next 180 years. So, you know, that's good progress. But really, it didn't really start falling until one particular date, Pat. when one particular date occurred. Yeah. We saw a massive decrease that continued over a long period of time. And what was that date?

1980. Can you think of anything that occurred around that? Oh, yeah, the Olympics. The Olympics in Moscow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that what changed everything? Is that what turned around?

That's when it happened. Yeah. Yeah. From basically the day of Reagan's election. Reagan till now. Till now, it's gone from 46% to 8%. Now, that was... 8%.

Wow. That's, I will say, that's a 2018 number. So it's a few years old. It's actually lower than that now. And there's actually a controversy kind of... So it's gone from over the years, though, 80% in the 1800s to 8% in 2018. Yes. Incredible.

That's incredible. It's a slightly lower... I mean, you think of the years since 2018, you had COVID, which was a real problem for the economy, obviously. And then the Biden administration in America, but globally, that is a small piece of the puzzle. So it's been basically a little bit down, but flat since 2018. One of the interesting thing that's happening right now, though, is they are adjusting the numbers. Of course they said they just added, you know, like a million people into poverty. And we're like, wow, is our economy reversing?

No, what they did was change the standard for what was poverty. Wow. They're just like, well, what if we change the number from whatever it was $1.90 a day to $2.15 a day or whatever it was, that was enough to increase the number a little bit. But this story is pretty clear over a long period of time that, you know, this has been a miracle time. I mean, you think about 1980, most of the people in the audience were alive in this period. this improvement, almost all of it, has happened in our lifetimes. Right. And we don't even notice it.

Yeah. It's not a story that's ever told or talked about. Yeah. It is, you know, if anything, people believe things are worse. Yeah, they believe the opposite. What do you think makes for that reason? Is it just like a filter of the past where they see everything and like a leave it to beaver, everyone owned their own house and, you know, it was this wonderful time and everything

was perfect? It's probably part of it. Is that part of it? Yeah. Is it just our doom scrolling where we're just constantly, missing bad news all the time on social media. And that could be a big part of it as well. I don't know.

There's a good psychological study that should be begun to understand it. Definitely. Glenn Beck. We're going to talk about Dr. Mathlowski in a few minutes there. Al Gore is coming on the program? Al Gore. Al Gore may come on the program because he's been proven wrong again with the Arctic sea ice situation.

We played that from, we played that speech that he made in, I don't know, 2000, 2007, 2008, somewhere in there. Okay. Where he predicted that in Thumb, Thummer month,

according to Dr. Mathlowski, the Theeis could be totally gone in Thummermont, in Thum, Thum, Month. We'll count all the disclaimers that he had. This is a fun game. Awesome. And we'll take a look at where, okay, where are we with the Arctic Sea Ice now?

How's that going? What's happened? How's it going? Let's check in. I mean, it's almost 20 years later. And he said five to seven years. So where do we stand? We'll get a look at that.

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I think the initial estimate was made in 2007. I don't know what his statement was. I think it might have been 2008 or nine. Yes. He claimed in his 2007 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech that the previous year, as the northern hemisphere, as the northern hemisphere tilted away from the fun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar Ith cap is falling off a cliff. Oh, no. falling off a cliff two. One study estimated that it could be

completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. And then he said this. Some of the models suggest to Dr. Maslowski that there is a... So it suggests to Dr. Maslowski,

not necessarily everybody, but so there's the second disclaimer. Well, I think I'm at three. Thumb. Okay, thumb of the models. Some of them. Some of them. Not all the models.

Okay, not all of them. Some of the models. Yeah. Suggest, don't necessarily say it. They just suggesting to Dr. Maslowski. Dr. Maslowski, not anyone else. That's three right there. 75% chance.

Okay, 75% percent. It's not 100% chance. No, it's a 75% chance. Some of the models suggest to this one doctor that there's a 75% chance that this could occur. Oh, I love it. That the entire North Polar Ice Cap. North Polar Ice Cap during summer, during some of the summer. Okay.

Not all of the. them during all month, just thumb of them during some of them. So that's an interesting one. So you say the North Polar ice cap, right? That's what he said. Yes. Now, that's not obviously all the ice, but I don't think that's a disclaimer. Like, for example, he's not saying the, he's not saying the Antarctic. Right. Right. So, but I won't say that's a disclaimer. Okay. He does say in summer months. So not all the time. Is that a disclaimer? It's not just. Yes, it's some summer. Well, the summer months and then just some summer months. So that definitely is. Okay. So some summer months. Another disclaimer.

Months could be completely. Completely. Could be. Could be. Okay. So there's another disclaimer. Could be completely ice free within the next five to seven years. And there's another disclaimer. It could be five years. Could be seven years. Five to seven years. Yeah. So one, two, three, four, five. I see eight disclaimers. That's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. Can we get it all in context now again? Can we play one more time? Some of the models suggest to. to Dr. Madlaski that there is a 75% chance. Yeah. That the entire North Pole ice cap during summer, during summer, during some of the summer months could be completely ice free within the next five to seven years. Okay. Wow. So it turns out his fearmonger, which apparently nets him about $200,000 per speaking engagement.

That's chicken. feed to some of these guys. I mean, you know, Obama makes what, four or five hundred thousand per speech, but he was never president. So cut him some slack there. Oh, my gosh. No kidding. Thank God. But not only was he wrong about the 20 foot rise in the global sea level in the near future, uh, he not only was he wrong about that. He was also wrong about polar bear drowning because the, um, polar bearth were going to drown. because of these rising sea levels. And a lot of the babies, I guess, couldn't keep up with the sea rise.

Now, polar bears, incredible swimmers. They can swim 400 miles. They've been clocked at 400 mile swims. So they could tread water for a really long time. It's doubtful that they're going to be drowning. But he was wrong about those. He was wrong about the snows of Kilimanjaro, which we're also supposed to be completely gone.

Completely evaporated. But he was also wrong about the future of the Arctic ice. It has slowed considerably. In fact, Arctic sea ice loss has no statistically significant decline in September sea ice since 2005. That's amazing. 2005. In 20 years, there's no significant loss. That's amazing.

Now, wait, is that in some of the summer months or did you say December? That's September. Oh, September. So that summer month. So part of the summer. Part of the thomer lives. The summer month when you thought that theithe would be gone completely. But so it was, this is also in conjunction with the South Pole with the Antarctic gain.

There have been significant sea ice gains in Antarctica. So he didn't say anything about the. Antarctic ice, but that has actually increased over the last 20 years. Incredible. It's unbelievable, really. And what's unbelievable most about it is not the fact that you can't predict the future 20 years in advance. That's actually really hard to do.

I mean, they can't even predict what's going to happen this afternoon with the weather. Right. On a lot of occasions. Yep. I mean, they, they, it's difficult to do. And I actually really hard. If it wasn't for their annoying, I mean, I almost feel the same way about this as I felt about like.

COVID in March 2020. It's like, well, the fact that you might not know what's going to happen with COVID in March 2020, I'm a little great for that. It's really hard to probably figure out how that was going to play out. But the fact that you continue to, number one, make certain projections about how it was going to work out. With incredible certitude, yes, by the way. I'm 100% sure this is going to happen, or 75% sure in some of the summer moms. And there's complete consensus. There is consensus, which is another big, fat lie. Yes. And act this way. Or, you are a heathen and killing grandparents in the COVID case or killing everyone in the global warming case.

I can understand. I have some grace for you missing out on some of these predictions. It's probably hard to do. But you can't have scientific certainty that changes everyone else's way of life at the same time that you don't know what you're talking about. You can either have science is hard and we're going to miss on some of these things or you have science is easy. We know it exactly. You have to change your life because of this.

Right? Yeah. You have to go one of those two paths. What they want is both. When they get it wrong, they want to say, oh, well, science is hard. It's difficult. Of course we didn't. We didn't know exactly what the situation was. And when it, when they have, of course, they don't learn anything from that. They will still say, sure, we were wrong then, but now we know.

Now we have the science we need. Back then we didn't have all the science. of course we didn't have the science. 20 years ago, of course science has improved in that time. Now we know for 20 years in the future what it's going to look like. What a great scam. You never have to be right. And you know who remembers the 2007, 8 prediction of Al Gore?

Nobody except you. Pat Gray, because of his incredible Al Gore impression, is the only person who remembers that this was even said. And he never has to pay a price for this. Dr. Maslowski seems to still be at his job. Yeah. Listen to this. I thought this was a fascinating rundown of the story. Did the prediction hold true?

The Arctic was writing this story, by the way. This is a massively conservative right-wing coog? It's just a summary for it. It's like an AI summary, I guess, of what happened here. All right. Did the prediction hold true? Not exactly. Not exactly.

Not at all. was not ice free in summer by 2013. And the window, by the way, of that prediction was 2013 to 2019. So it was not ice free in summer of 2013. Despite the initial estimate, Dr. Maslowski did not revise his prediction publicly. This is my favorite part of this summary. As of May 2021, he still held to the 2016 plus or minus three-year estimate, even though summer sea ice persisted.

So even though Even though he was wrong, he's stuck to it. He's still stuck to it two years after it ended. How is that possible? How do you keep your job? How do you keep your job? You know what that's like? That's like an obscure pastor who predicts the end of the world.

It's going to happen in October. It's going to happen October 3rd. And then October 3rd rolls around and they're like, oh, no, I was a little off on my calculation. I meant December 12th. And then December 12th rolls around and is like, no, it's probably next spring. Yeah. I got, I got, I'm missed it carrying the one. Right.

And so it's actually March 9th. And then they just keep pushing this down the line. And then that's what probably Dr. Matlowski is doing now. Yeah. And so is Al Gore. They just say, well, it's coming. There's never a moment. Never a moment where they were wrong, just flat out wrong.

Subsequent analysis have shown that while sea ice decline continues, use, it has been more gradual than his lower bound estimate suggested. So this is, we see this over and over again, these predictions that go out over time. We find the actual results to be lower than the lowest prediction they could imagine. I love that. Over and over and over again, this happens. Yeah. And yet they are never, the same people are the same people making the predictions for the

future of this, of this stuff. it is incredible that nobody learns anything. Nobody learns anything. No one ever says, you know what? I'm thinking next time we don't listen to that guy. Nobody says that. Nobody ever has an awakening where they're like, you know, what if we get another completely insane nut job to make our next prediction?

What if we just mix it up? Right. Come up with another crazy person to say something next time. No, they bring the same people who they trot out. Who been wrong forever. The same guys who were talking about how we were going to have a population crash. We weren't going to be able to feed people. Oh, my gosh.

Those people are still in power. What's his face? Who predicted that the West Side Highway in New York City was going to be completely underwater by, was it 2000 or something? Yes. Gosh, that was to Hanson. Yes. James Hanson. James Hanson.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, from NASA. And he's never been held accountable for that. Nobody's ever said, hey, you are incredibly wrong on every. Every single prediction. What do you say to that? But their feet are never held to the fire. No, I remember.

It's amazing. That particular prediction was made in an office overlooking the West Side Highway in Manhattan. Yes. And I decided to go out and look at the highway to see if it was underwater. It's not. I remember that. It's currently not underwater. Huh.

No. Are you sure what about today? No, it's not underwater. People are still driving on it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's rained. Yeah.

So in a way, at times it's been underwater. They have had some flooding in other parts of Manhattan. Yeah. But brief and receded quickly after serious storms. But, you know, that did not happen. And all these things are just made with this incredible level of certainty. You know, it's kind of like, it's like if you were predicting, you know, the Cleveland Browns is going to win the super.

Super Bowl this year. You know, when the Super Bowl this year, it's going to happen. And then, you know, there's no one who comes out, no freezing takes exposed to show, hey, this guy predicted the Cleveland Browns are going to win the Super Bowl with utter certainty. And then they don't. And you're like, well, that just, I just got the year long. I mean, I guess eventually, in theory, maybe the win, it's going to be difficult.

It's been a rough road for our friendly Browns. We've never even been there up until this point. You know, maybe someday. A couple of the worst losses in the playoffs of all time, man. Oh, I felt for, I felt for all of Cleveland in that period. But like, you know, you just think to yourself, well, if you're doing that and you're missing on the prediction over and over and over again, at some point, you lose the credibility to make the next one. Yeah. That doesn't happen in climate science.

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You know, science is just not all knowing. They do make mistakes. They make predictions that don't necessarily come true. I can't think of any. Well, we just talked about one for about 20 minutes. That's right. Did you miss that discussion? Yeah, I did.

That's weird because you were a part of it. Very, very strange. But, you know, the whole climate science thing, which is there's supposedly consensus and that's done and it's decided and you're a climate denier. They try to make you akin to somebody who denies the Holocaust if you ever say, hey, I understand there has been some warming. Not an awful lot. It's gone up like a degree in a hundred years. Big deal.

It's actually made it so that we can grow more food, which seems like a good thing to a lot of people. But even that, they won't accept. What you have to accept is that it's happening. It's all caused by man. And it's catastrophic. And if you don't buy into all of those things, you're a denier. And that's kind of how they acted too with the Big Bang theory, which because of the James Webb Space Telescope has also come into question.

I mean, scientists are not sure now. They were sure before, like five years ago, 10 years ago. They were absolutely certain. Everything started from one teeny tiny little speck then exploded and created everything. They were absolutely certain about that. And now not so much because the James Webb Telescope has apparently shown galaxies that shouldn't have been formed, you know, stars that existed before the supposed formation of the Big Bang. And so what it leads to is that science doesn't know everything.

everything with certitude. It's a process. It's, you know, we find out, we discover, we learn, and then we come up with different theories. And it's just, but with climate change, you're not supposed to recognize any of that. And if you do, you're some kind of right-wing kook. And there's no hope for you. That's fascinating.

It really is a strange thing. And it's such a great scam. Because if you can get something like that. where you never have to be held accountable. It's like a money and influence printing machine. Yeah. You get to live this great life and everyone respects you. And they don't remember anything that you said when you were wrong.

Wouldn't that be nice? If we just spewed anything we wanted and nobody remembered any of the mistakes that we made, everything we say is untrue, what would happen to us? We'd be off the air. I mean, there would be consequences. For our own personal enjoyment, we picked the wrong team. Let's be honest about it. As conservatives, we picked the wrong team here.

If we just wanted to have success, money-wise, and never feel guilty about all the things that we've done to other people, never feel guilty about all the wrong predictions we've made, never be punished for the mistakes we make it work. We talked about this earlier as we started up starting a multi-billion-dollar green. bank that collapsed in a fraud scandal. We covered that earlier this morning if you missed it. You don't have to ever really come to, nothing ever happens to the people involved in it. It's just more like, yeah, yeah, sure, your, you get a gig at a university, working for a think tank. And, you know, you just continue to go to the same parties and enjoy the same people and have the nice, you know, place in Georgetown.

And weirdly, have the same credibility. Yeah. That you had before. despite the fact that nothing you've ever said panned out. Sometimes you get more credibility, I feel like. You know, like I think like when you stand by a prediction that had a end date of 2019 and it still has not happened in 2021 and you just like proudly stand up for that. That's amazing.

It would be hard to do. It would. I don't think I could pull that off. But somehow it's fine with Al Gore. I mean, if he's still claiming or was it Maslowski, which one of them was claiming that it's, they're still on track with? Dr. Maslowski. It was Dr. Mavlalowski.

Amazing. And where is he now? He's still in the same gig, I think. Which is, he's like a marine biologist or something? He is a research professor, department of oceanography at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. I'm sure it's highly prestigious. I'm sure it is. I'm sure that it is.

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Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. Triple-8-727, VECK. So where do you stand on the National Guard troops being sent to, all of these cities around the country. I'm really actually more of a fan of crime. Are you? Yeah. I like criminal activity.

Glad that there's a high violent criminal rate in each of these cities. And I obviously want to live in a part of town like that. I want to be able to exploit it from my own gain. Oh. So I will, you know, I'll live in a nice suburb, you know, 30 miles outside. Yeah. But just enjoy the fact that people are losing their lives in the inner city. Yeah. Well, violent crime, crime, rarely any crime, I'm for just so that I can exploit it.

Well, then you fit right in with, say, J.B. Pritzker and Brandon Johnson. He's my neighbor. They're both my neighbors, yes. I love what, I mean, J.B. Pritzker has become one of the most irritating figures in the country. He's getting up there. He's getting up there. He's not to Tim Walls level for me yet. No, but who could be there. It's hard to imagine someone getting there. I mean, Tim Walls and Satan are probably the two people on my list that are close close yeah very close very close but here's governor pritzker on

the Chicago crime scene you're going to hear people especially this past weekend pause it for just a second this is surprising that he can actually he's actually taking a walk is this the first time in his miserable life that he's ever done that

I will say this certainly this wasn't done for the cameras this is just him on a day to day basis he's a big he just walks all Clearly he's a fitness advocate and enthusiast. Right. And that's what happens. We just caught him in his natural habitat. Right.

That's all that's going on here. Now, do you think the reporter is concerned that at some point he may eat her? Yes. I'm concerned watching the video. I'm concerned about that. She may be consumed. I don't. She doesn't even seem to be at a safe distance.

So I'm not sure if she's that prudent. But let's start it from the beginning because this is brilliant stuff. And here's J.B. on crime. You're going to hear people, especially this past weekend, 54 shot, seven dead. 58 and 8, actually.

But they're going to say, the city's not safe. Would you ask your friends to ride the L after midnight or after, you know, 9 o'clock at night even to come down to the city from O'Hare? Look, big cities have crime. There's no doubt about it. But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is doing targeting Chicago.

He's overlooking red states. that have much higher crime rates. Oh, my. It's that they always do. This is the new talking point. Yes. Just deflect it. This is a Republican state.

So Christy Knoem was in a similar situation. She was on with Ed O'Keefe. And here's what happened there. Except we can't hear it. So she was asked if they've, have you ever considered sending troops into these Republican-run cities? that are equally or more overrun with crime. She actually said yes.

Yes, we don't care what city it is, who's running it. If there's a massive problem, we're going to help. Yeah, if we discover a city at some point run by a Republican, we are going to be interested in that. We have an archaeological dig going on right now to discover one. You're going to have to go back away. There are a couple. Miami is one.

Dallas is one, but that's not fair because he was a lot. elected as a Democrat, but that's the exact example that Ed O'Keefe jumps to. Well, Dallas, Dallas, first of all, Dallas doesn't have the crime situation. Chicago does. But secondly, he was a Democrat when he was elected, but he switched party affiliation since. So that doesn't really count. But then he went to small towns in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana that might have high crime rates. And there's some that do.

I mean, Memphis is very high. It has been very high for a long time. Is that run by a Republican? Oh, I'm sure. Long time, hardcore Reagan Republican running the city. Right. All these cities are run by Democrats. And we did, we did, I don't have the, I don't have Memphis in front of me, but we did a stat in one of Glenn's books that I had to work on back in the day.

This number is a little bit old at this point. So that was back in 2009-ish, 08, 09? Was it the inconvenient book? think it was an inconvenient book. I think so. It may have been arguing with idiots. It was one of those in that period. Right. Right.

And the stat was basically, it was based not on crime, but on poverty, but obviously there's a big correlation there between the highest poverty cities and the highest crime cities. And it was the number of times, percentage of a time that the top 10 poverty cities had been run by Republicans. And it was something like 6% of the time over 70 years. Six. Wow. In all the cities.

Most of the cities had been one. 100% Democrat run the entire time we did the study. For something like 60 years, right? There was a couple that were just nonpartisan, you know, that were a lot of them were definitely Democrats, but just had nonpartisan elections. There were a couple that had brief flirtations with Republicans over short periods of time. Yeah. But pretty much none that were continually run by Republicans.

Now, look, Republicans fail at stuff all the time. This is not a situation where I, I know. confident that a Republican taking over a city after a hundred years of progressive rule is going to be able to turn it down around instantly. We did see we have seen examples of that. I mean, Giuliani. Yeah, you did a good job. Pretty much that was able to turn around in when one or two terms. That is a, the outlier. But, you know, Miami is another situation that has really improved recently with a Republican mayor. You know, I, it's kind of silly. Like, pointing to the governor is

partially part of the problem. You can see, I think, be critical of a Republican governor that has a state that maybe they should be doing more to lock down crime in that city and maybe aren't because a Democrat mayor is running into the ground and they don't think of it as their responsibility as much. That could be a problem. But a place like Illinois or California,

where, you know, Gavin Newsom loves to say, well, the crime right here is lower than, and, you know, Louisiana. And, like, you know, you can come up with a crime rate arguments if you want. There are obviously, we've talked about it 100 times the arguments against that. My favorite one was, like, they used to say, like, Belize, the country of Belize has one of the highest murder rates in the world. And, you know, that is, that would make you not want to go. And you look at the number and there's like one murder every week in the entire, or every two weeks in the entire country.

And because of low population, it's a high rate. It's sparse in places. You have wide areas of nothing. You know, that winds up affecting the rates. Sometimes to your advantage, sometimes to your disadvantage. So, you know, if you have one really bad city almost always run by a Democrat, it affects the numbers. And, you know, the areas that are run by Republicans do not have these numbers. They don't want you to look at it at that level.

They want you to look at it at some of the level that serves them. Yeah. And they're counting on the fact that you're not even going to look at it. Yeah. You're just going to trust them. And while he said it, it must be true. If J.B. Pritzker said Republicans have higher rates in their states, it must be true. Certainly he wouldn't lie about that.

Right. And like J.B. Pritzker is targeting his voters that he knows must be dumb because they voted for him. So like it's kind of like a circuitous thing. Like Gavin Newsom is targeting people that are voting for him. So he knows they must be idiots and will believe anything. because by definition, they already voted for him. So, yeah, it really, I mean, it's a great, it's a great way of going about things. It really is.

Then you've got this dolt in Chicago, Brandon Johnson talking about gun crime there. Chicago will continue to have a violence problem as long as red states continue to have a gun problem. I mean, this is so stupid. The Jews will continue as long as this presidential administration continues to put politics. So it's our fault in Texas that Chicago has a high murder rate because everybody buys guns here and then travels. I mean, you know what? I'm going to take this gun that I just bought in Dallas and I'm going to drive to Chicago and shoot somebody with it. Well, that happens all the time.

Well, see, that's not the way it works for me, Pat. What I do is I buy a bunch of guns here. We're in Irving Texas, you know, suburban Dallas. And what I do is I go to the gun store, load up with guns. And then I go meet my friendly gang members in the middle of. downtown Chicago. And do you sell it or do you just give it to them? You know, it depends. I like to at least cover

my expenses on gas and hotel rooms. But generally speaking, I just want the violence to continue. As I mentioned, love crime, a huge fan of crime. So that's what we do. Because either that or gang members are driving to

rural Indiana, to gun stores. I would love to know. And I've talked to several gun store owners who have never seen anything like this, but maybe you have, if you're a gunstore owner, and you're just like, you know, we just constantly have people coming in from the, you know, most crime-ridden areas in our state, and they come and they cross the state lines, and then they come into our state, and they say, hey, load me up with guns at market price in the suburbs.

That's 100% how it goes down, Brandon. You've nailed it. Now, if you want to get large portions of guns at lower prices, For crimes, one way you can do that is over a wide open border that exists in this country, or at least did until recently, thanks to Democratic leadership. Yeah, a lot of guns do come in illegally that way. That is one way that happens. It is not common. It is not common that you go to a gun store in the suburbs and buy guns legally and then go use them for.

Now, you might steal them out of somebody's house. maybe that happens but it's insane to say that the legal gun system that we have in this country is what's influencing this. It's nonsense. It is not occurring. Isn't it also an admission that the strict gun laws they have at Chicago

don't work? Don't work. I mean, whatever the explanation, wherever the guns are coming from, your strict gun law is not working. You call it an admission. What it is as an excuse. When people when Republicans point out hey, you already have those gun laws,

not only in your city, but also in your state. Because it used to be like in Memphis, they would say that, right? Like they'd say, well, you know, it's because of these gun laws in our state. People just go outside of Memphis and go get them. Now, of course, that wasn't true there either. But that was the accusation. Then we say, well, what about these blue states that have all these same guns, gun laws? And they say, well, there they just leave the state and go to a Republican state.

None of this is happening in any large number. I mean, of course, it's probably happened at some point. A few times, maybe. We also know, by the way, rural white people commit murders, right? Like, it's not just gang members. But when you talk about the average, when you talk about these rates in the cities, it's not farmers. Right. You know, there's not a lot of farmers that are going into the city to commit murders.

This isn't what's going on. Now, the media will tell you it's all white people coming into this to commit the murders because of it's all racism. But what you're seeing largely are people killing people that live. nearby them that look like them. This is the case in all circumstances, by the way. In every group, that is the most common situation. You usually see murders committed by people against people who are either related to them or are friends with them or are working in their same communities. Often people congregate who are of the same race or ethnicity. And so typically, it's usually within those groups. There are, of course, our crossovers, and they get all the

coverage, but typically that's what happens. Crime statistics have shown this forever. And what's fascinating about their argument is, let's just take it as gospel for a second and act as if this was a real argument, a serious argument. The argument would then be, okay, well, we need to turn off the gun laws in the United States. Now, we went through yesterday, we played a clip of how to get rid of the guns in the United States. It would be very difficult. You've got 400 million guns. It'd be really hard to get them all off the streets. But let's just say everybody just gave them up to the government for some bizarre reason. You would then have a situation with a large desire for illegal guns inside of our country

and a democratic policy that would leave the borders open for them to cross in and we'd have the guns anyway. And only the criminals would have them. This is their way of looking at things. These are just excuses. It's nonsense. But it's the way they've been running these cities for 100 years and you see the results. Well, do you remember in America when prohibition was in force?

Yeah. Nobody drank out. That's right. There was no alcohol available anywhere. I think it'd be the same situation if you outlaw guns. There will be no guns. No guns. Just like there was no alcohol. Especially in an airing prohibition.

When you can 3D print the guns or the... Imagine if you could 3D print to the alcohol, how much alcohol there would be. 3A727. Back more coming up. Freedom's like a wild horse. If you don't grab the reins every once in a while, you're liable to catch a hoof to the face. And trust me, that ain't pleasant. Back, we'll be right back after this.

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Should we send? I think the bottom line on this that I'm struggling with is should we send National Guard troops to all of these places. There's so much unknown on this. I mean, first of all, he doesn't really have the power to send them to all, quote, unquote, all these places. Like, I think the issue here is how it's going to happen. There are certain limited circumstances in which he can make an impact in these cities. Now, one of the...

And apparently he has in D.C. In D.C., he 100%. D.C. is separate. Throw D.C. out to the side. He can do what he's doing in D.C. He's completely justified. There's absolutely no question about it. It worked.

And it would work at a lot of these other cities too. You throw enough really talented, trained law enforcement officials into a city, you're going to be able to cut crime. There's no doubt about it. That's an easy equation. The issue is the legal pathway to get there. Now, he thought he found a limited way to do it in Los Angeles.

Courts just overturn that. We'll see what happens at the Supreme Court level on that one. But he has a lot of challenges as to how he does it. It has to be done right. And that's something, look, I think the president cares about. I think the people around him care about. If they don't, they should. Yeah.

I know I care about it. You have to do things the right way. It's not, you know, we always talk about this with Van Jones when he wrote and the ends justify the means. They don't. You've got to do it the right way. Yeah. There might be a pathway to do something, but there are limits to that. Back here tomorrow.

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