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America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
We've got a lot to cover today.
I'm going to start with Omar and the raid on her home yesterday, which we found out as this show
was unfolding yesterday.
We don't have a lot more.
We have a lot of speculation.
We're going to learn more when the court filings or the affidavit starts to come out.
But it is a significant thing yesterday, as we told you, that a federal judge in D.C.
signed off on this warrant.
What could they be looking for?
Her original
immigration and naturalization records,
whether information on those things were
fraudulent or inaccurate.
There is a birth date thing that
they're going back and forth on.
And if any of the stuff
that they found yesterday
goes against anything that was filed,
does it have anything to do with her marriage?
I have read both sides on this, that her marriage doesn't matter, but I would think it would, but statute of limitations.
We know very little.
I'm going to talk to the guy in about an hour and a half, the guy who has been, I mean, he's dedicated his life to this story and has had significant funding behind him to be able to get all of the facts in the stories.
and he's been going for at least 10 years on this story.
He knows more than anybody else.
We're going to talk to him and get the latest from him coming up.
Also, I want to talk to you about how Oregon adults have the highest rate of mental illness in the United States.
We make all kinds of jokes about that.
What a surprise.
But instead, I'm looking for some real answers because there's some confusing data in this story
that I think tells us something much more than just politics.
Thank God.
Also, big news.
China, have they closed their border to Russia?
Not exactly, but it does have something to do with the outbreak.
So now we've got China reacting to the outbreak.
They've just closed.
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Okay, let's see. Let me start with China here. This is a weird story. Let me start at the beginning. It was on the 1st of October, a 28-year-old woman named Darya Shiplova. She went into the hospital in Siberia with pneumonia. That's really all we know. By the next morning, she was dead. Now, she worked at the anti-plague instance.
This is a lab that was studied, that was founded in 1934.
They study the plague, anthrax, cholera, and other things.
You know, this area has a problem with plague, but she had the pneumonic plague, they think,
which means it's carried in the lungs.
It's not passed on by rats.
It's passed on by coughing or air molecules.
What happened next is why we're hearing about it.
About 200 people were put in isolation.
Hospital was quarantined, up to five hospitals.
were quarantined.
Masks went on in an aluminum plant.
Then Moscow said, no, there's nothing to worry about.
There's no accident.
There's no plague, nothing to see.
And Russia's censors warned everybody against spreading fake news.
Week later reports in that a second worker from the same institute was in the hospital with the same kind of pneumonia.
Now, let me take you to China.
You might have seen the headline that just came out that China is closing the border with Russia.
that isn't quite true and the difference I think matters here.
I want to pay attention to this story, but I don't want to panic on this story.
China has not shut the crossing.
It's the biggest land gate between the two countries, health officials called emergency meetings
and then tighten screenings of people and cargo coming in from Russia.
The region around it told anyone that's arriving from Siberia to watch for symptoms and report them.
I'd feel better kind of if they closed the border.
I mean, maybe it's just me, but okay.
So Kazakhstan and all the other stands went further and set up quarantine checkpoints.
So there are now four different checkpoints.
China, their own notice, admits the case has not been confirmed.
Beijing's foreign ministry still says it's cooperating closely with Moscow.
So this is not China sounding an alarm by closing.
This is China, Russia's closest partner, quietly deciding, yeah, I don't really trust you.
You know, when your best friend starts counting the silverware after you leave, he hasn't accused you of stealing, but he has told you, I don't think I trust you all that much.
So now how credible is this?
We do know these things.
A young vaccinated scientist at a plague lab died of a really fast pneumonia.
Russia told the WHO, no plague case was reported.
Russia also says nearly 5,000 tests on her contacts found nothing dangerous and lifted every restriction within a week.
The WHO rates the risk as moderate to low and very low for Europe.
President says he doesn't think that it was a bioweapon.
Here's what we don't know.
And the one thing that matters the most, what killed her?
A plague lab can test for a plague in a matter of hours.
They've had two weeks and they still have not named the germ.
This is a problem because it tells me they were messing with something that they shouldn't have been messing with.
So they can't name it because it would be illegal.
The head of the WHO has joined Washington and Europe in asking for it.
So my take on this and don't listen to me.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not an expert.
I am a guy like you trying to figure things out.
So take it for what it's worth, which is practically nothing.
I don't think this is the beginning of a pandemic.
I will tell you, when I first heard about China,
it was over Christmas, I think, when we were listening about COVID.
And the first reports started coming out at Christmas.
And I remember it's Christmas, my wife is like,
can you stop talking about a possible plague?
And I'm like, well, I just want to say it might be.
I wasn't sure of that, but I had a bad feeling.
I don't have a bad feeling on this one.
But that doesn't mean anything, again.
Plague is not COVID.
It has been with us for thousands of years.
We know exactly what it is.
It lives in the wild, different parts of the world.
It lives in prairie dogs here and in the American West.
So you can treat it as long as you catch it early.
Common antibiotics cure it.
This one is extraordinarily rapid.
and may have been weaponized.
Again, the president says he doesn't think it is.
This goes through lungs, spreads person to person through close contact, not across stadiums.
The real story isn't the germ.
It is the silence.
And the silence is what is the problem.
Because any time somebody, you lose precious time and resources.
Okay.
the reason why possibly, possibly, this particular border crossing is so sensitive is because this same border town years ago, this has happened before, okay?
In the fall of 1910, the people in this town started coughing up blood.
And everybody was like, oh, I don't know, that might be a problem.
They were fur trappers and they were, you know, hunting for pelts.
it was the plague.
The plague rode the Southern Railroad, and it was killing every single person it touched.
China's dying emperor sent a young doctor, trained in England, and said, go figure this out.
So he did.
Well, the first thing he did was forbidden.
He cut open a body.
Nobody in China had ever been allowed to perform an autopsy before.
He did it in secret.
He did it in a back room.
but he was trained in England, so he was looking in modern medicine, and he found plague in the lungs.
It wasn't being carried by rats and fleas. It was traveling through the air, one person to the other.
So he designed a face mask. He took gauze and cotton and tied it behind his head.
The senior foreign doctors laughed at him. One of them, a famous freshman, refused to wear it, and went on seeing patients.
He was like, this is ridiculous.
this cotton, gauze thing, I'm not wearing.
He was dead in a day.
After that, everybody started wearing a mask, and then it got worse.
It was a Manchurian winter, and the ground was frozen, and thousands of dead bodies were just laying in the street, because nobody could dig a grave for him.
So that all of these bodies, well, Chinese custom forbade anybody from burning the dead.
So he writes, this doctor, who designed the mask, writes the emperor and says, hey, can we?
I don't know.
Burn these bodies because we can't put them in the ground.
When a thaw comes, it's going to be very, very bad.
He got the permission.
He burned the bodies.
60,000 bodies they had to burn.
Should have been far, far worse, but by spring it was over.
And the mask, the one they laughed at is the great-great-grandfather of the N95 mask.
Okay.
Why am I telling you that story?
Well, what I find it fascinating.
Two, what did he actually do?
When he looked, looking was forbidden.
He told the truth when the truth was really ugly.
He asked people to do some small, little, slightly embarrassing things every day,
and those who did lived.
It was just a strip of gauze.
Notice who died.
Notice who died.
It was the man, not who was afraid.
A man who is too proud.
So what does that lead me to?
First thing, you got to name the germ.
That's the scariest thing Russia can do.
They got to name the germ.
And every nation that signed the international health regulations,
Russia included, promised to share exactly this.
They need to have their feet held to the fire.
China has more leverage over Moscow than any other country,
and it should use it in public.
What should America do?
CDC is watching. Good. I'm hoping we're keeping our labs and stockpiles ready and say out loud what we know, when we know it, and what we don't know. The last time the world faced a new germ, our own experts lost our trust. Why? Because they pretended to be sure. Don't do it again. We don't know is not a weakness. It's the only thing that keeps people listening when it counts.
and you, what does this mean to you?
Do not go out and buy a case of masks and a shelf of antibiotics.
Don't.
If you were planning to travel to Russia, State Department says don't.
Why would you be going to Russia in the first place?
Other than that, keep a basic kit you should already have.
Two weeks of food and water and your prescriptions are filled.
And a box of N95s in the closet.
That's not fear.
That's a spare tire.
Then watch for three things.
I mean, we have alerts on all of our search engines.
All my producers are going to put this alert on today.
Russia, will they name the pathogen?
Is the second worker confirmed sick with the same thing?
And does China go from screening to actually shutting the gate?
If any of those break the wrong way, I'll let you know.
If all three of them break the wrong way, that's news and it's not good news.
Okay, if none of them do, this is just a young woman, a tragedy in a bio lab that shouldn't have happened, but it's the government of Russia trying to hide it rather than explaining it.
Panic never saved anybody. Neither did pride. Neither did pride. So let's just be cool. Let's be calm. Let's look at the facts. So far, nothing to worry about. I don't think.
Again, who am I? Good luck.
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So let me talk to you about something else while we're talking about health.
Let me talk to you about the mental health rate.
Join me on this one, will you, Jason?
Oregon had the highest rate of mental illness at 31.6%.
That's 10% higher than the national average.
Now, I'm kind of half serious, half joking.
It doesn't surprise me.
It doesn't surprise me.
You know, it's the home of Portland.
Of course, there are more mentally ill people up in that area.
However, you look at it and, you know, without joking about it, I do think that plays a role.
I can't find anything that proves it, but just my gut.
And I want to explain my gut here in a second.
but Jason, you went and you looked at, you compared the mental illness rates with soldiers
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If you compare that with these numbers that you're talking about now, I mean, these are actual reasons why I could see someone having similar kinds of, you know, mental issues. I mean, you know, extreme combat, firefights, explosions going off, but only at 10 to 20 percent. I would think maybe even higher, but it's lower. So if you're walking the streets of Oregon without seeing those kinds of things, you're more likely to see somebody with with similar issues than in a combat unit.
that's shocking to me.
That is shocking.
That is really shocking.
And it says something about us, I think.
First of all, we're coddling people.
We're making everybody feel like their problems are so big and so important.
And we're going into therapy all the time, just admiring our problems.
That which you gaze upon, you become.
I mean, there is a reason to have,
something is going on with my sound in my ear, please.
Can we fix that?
But there is, you know,
there is a reason to go to therapy,
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And they're going to therapy because
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And you and Jason were like, you got to eat the fish eye.
That's the thing to do.
I mean, we all did it when we're young.
He's like, nobody did that dad.
You made me eat a fish eye.
And I said, son, I started a tradition.
When you have a son, you take him fishing and you make him eat the fish eye.
Okay.
It's not my proudest moment as a dad, but it's not a tragedy that's going to destroy your whole life for the love of Pete.
You know, you don't need therapy for that.
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very low point in my parenting, but, um, you look at, uh, you look at what's happening here.
And you see that it is the district Columbia, which is, I think, number two, right?
Oregon, Vermont, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, Washington State, New Hampshire.
I mean, you have significant leftist states.
Now, Utah is also near the top of this.
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So NBC just put out a poll
And among voters under 30
The share with a positive view of socialism
Is climbed from 28% in 2018 to 42%.
Wow.
The share of a negative view of capitalism more than doubled
From 22% to 47%.
Now I'm not going to yell at that because I mean
We've been there done that.
Okay.
Here's what I want to do.
If you're 23 and you have watched, you know, rent, eat your paycheck, if you've been told, you know, a house is something that your parents got and you're just not going to, if groceries costs more every time you go and somebody comes along and said, you know, it doesn't have to be this way, let's try something new.
You would listen. You would listen. Okay. The problem is what many people do.
who are 23 years old don't understand is it's not a new thing. Let's try something new.
It's not new. I'm open to new things. The people selling this, they know that. So they have an
answer ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Soviet Union, it was a disaster. Yeah, I know, Mao,
Mao, Mao, Cambodia, Cuba. You just name, you go down the list. I know, but that wasn't real socialism.
Those leaders went bad. Okay. This time we're going to have better people.
Better safeguards. A better plan.
Uh-huh.
You might have heard this speech before.
Let me give you the same thing in a different scenario.
Because your friend or somebody you know gives you this same speech every time she defends the loser she's dating.
You know the guy.
No job.
Lives in his parents' basement.
Can't afford a car.
has no future. Sh showers on holidays, maybe not on Flag Day, but the big ones.
Showers on holidays.
You know, and she said, you just don't know him like I do.
He's got such good ideas.
He's so good as a person.
He's got a bright future.
I can fix him.
Every girl that guy has ever dated said exactly the same thing.
And every one of those relationships ended with a box of his stuff on the front lawn.
Okay.
socialism is that boyfriend.
Charming, a little rebellious.
Your parents probably don't like him.
Talks beautifully about fairness.
And there's always an excuse for the last breakup.
Wrong leader.
Wrong country.
Not enough money.
Foreign interference.
It's never his fault.
Never his fault.
So let me introduce you to his ex-girlfriends.
Okay?
The Soviet Union.
Soviet Union took the farm from the farmers and millions starved in the early 1930s.
By the secret police's own records, about 680,000 people were shot in just two years of purges.
In China, Mao's Great Leap Forward produced what may be the deadliest famine in human history.
Tens of millions dead in that one, and that's not to mention the estimated 50 to 90,
million people dead under Mao because he shot them, killed them one way or another.
In Cambodia, the communist abolished money because money was the problem.
They emptied the cities.
And in four years, roughly one out of every four Cambodians was dead.
It's called the killing fields.
Now, that's your grandparents' history.
Those are the ones that our grandparents might have dated.
And the rest of the world went, don't date him.
No, it's a really bad idea.
It's not going to end well.
So let's look at your boyfriends.
Venezuela.
Venezuela sits on the largest proven oil reserves on the planet,
bigger than Saudi Arabia,
should be one of the richest countries on Earth.
At one time was the second richest in the hemisphere.
Then Hugo Chavez took over.
Famous, smart Americans all lined up to applaud.
This is socialism, has this is socialism done right?
Finally, socialism.
They elected him. Democratic election for the people. Then came the takeovers and the price controls.
The government telling stores what they could charge so the stores stop stocking the shelves because they couldn't afford it.
In 2017, a survey by Venezuela's top universities found two out of three people had lost weight that year.
When I say lost weight, I'm not talking about a diet. They lost an average, the average person, 24 pounds.
not a diet, starvation.
The next year the country's own central bank put inflation at more than 130,000 percent.
You think inflation is bad here?
Hey, let's try socialism.
Nearly eight million people fled the country.
Now, defenders will tell you it was American sanctions that did that.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, we have something called a calendar.
Let's look at the calendar.
Let's check the dates.
The shortage, the shortages, the following oil production, the bread lines, all of it was underway before the major sanctions began in 2017.
The boyfriend was broke before anyone cut up his credit card.
Okay?
Different countries, different cultures, different leaders.
Same ending.
Why?
What do they all have in common?
Carl Marx gave out the ending himself.
In the Communist Manifesto, he admitting getting there would take, in his words, despotic inroads on the rights of property.
He promised force would be needed, but only temporary.
Oh, okay.
Well, it never is.
You know, and here's why.
Because humans are humans.
We're all alike.
When you take a man's farm, he doesn't like it.
When you take a man's house, he doesn't like it.
He doesn't like the results.
and so he resists these kinds of things.
Okay?
It's never temporary.
That's the problem.
When you tell him, he gets the same ration,
whether he works 12 hours or 2 hours,
guess what he works?
Two.
Then production falls.
Shortages come.
Now the government has a choice.
Admit the plan failed,
which they never do,
or increase military and police.
guess what? They always choose the secret police.
Always. They always push harder. It's the same story.
The worst socialism works, the more police it needs.
Tyranny isn't what happens when socialism goes wrong.
Tyranny is how socialism stays alive.
The true believers always knew there would be one problem they couldn't plan around.
And that problem is you.
That problem is human nature.
Look, if you're on the left, you're already talking about camps.
You're already talking about eliminating people that are standing in the way.
What do you think that leads to?
You think that's just, oh, we're just going to take care of a few people?
No, that leads to millions of deaths.
That's how it happens every time.
People want to keep what they earn.
They want to take care of their own kids.
They want to make their own choices.
You know, Trotsky, he was one of the main.
who built the Soviet Union and its Red Army, he had a solution for this.
1924, he writes a book and he's describing the new human being that socialism would create.
And through the training and what he called artificial selection, mankind would become, well,
in his words, a higher biologic type, a Superman.
The average person, he said, would rise to the level of Aristotle or Marx, Mark's, Marks,
was a moron.
The system didn't fit people.
So the plan was to change people.
Have you ever heard that you can't change people?
You're going to marry him.
He's going to change for me.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
And if that's with sex on the line,
what do you think's going to happen when it's government?
It's not going to happen.
How'd that work out for Trotsky?
Well, he lost power to Stalin.
He was thrown out of the country that he helped build.
Oh, well, it didn't.
kill him. No. Actually in Mexico, a Soviet agent killed him with an ice axe. So, you know, the man who
promised a new humanity, free of jealousy and ambition was murdered by jealousy and ambition with an axe.
Human nature. Human nature. It never changes. And in socialism, that really bad human nature is given a
badge and a gun. The free market, our founders, they made the opposite bet. Madison wrote,
If men were angels, government would not be necessary.
So they didn't try to build a better human.
They recognized the flaws in human, and they built a system for the humans we actually have.
And they divided power so nobody could grab it all.
They let free people build, trade, and keep what they earned.
Has it gone bad?
Yes.
Why?
Because we're not using the system, and we're not recognizing all of the powers and the tools that we have,
most importantly, we're not recognizing the responsibilities that we have.
And it's easier for all of us to decide, you know what, I think I'm going to be a better human being than it is to try to change every human being with a gun.
That's the free market.
It's not perfect, but it doesn't require everybody to be an angel.
It takes ordinary ambition, I want a better life for my family.
And it says the only way to get there is by making something your neighbor actually needs and wants.
Unfortunately, we're a society that wants porn and free rides and drugs.
That's the part we have to change.
Your self-interest has to serve somebody else.
In socialism, ambition doesn't appear.
It moves into the government where nobody can fire it.
And before we hand Washington, the whole economy, look what it already runs.
The post office lost $9 billion last fiscal year.
Their job, deliver the mail.
Amtrak carried more passengers than ever and still lost $600 million and they run the trains.
If they can't make the trains pay with record crowds, why would we hand them our grocery store at our hospital?
and your job.
So if you're one of the 20-somethings,
your frustration is real.
I get it.
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The problems are real.
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But before you take a cure,
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You might be surprised how often the answer is
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And to the parents, don't mock these guys.
They don't know what they've not been,
they've not learned any of this stuff.
Nobody's told them.
And by the way, you mock them, you know what that does? Go ahead.
Mock your daughter for the boyfriend.
Be little your daughter for the boyfriend.
You know what's going to happen?
She's going to go move closer to the boyfriend.
Ask them which country they want to copy.
Then ask them, how does this usually end?
Because here's a rule that will serve you in love and in work and in politics.
When somebody needs you to become a different person before their plan can work, the problem is
you. It's the plan. It's not you. It's him. But if you keep choosing the same kind of guy over and over
again, it is you. And maybe, I mean, we just, life is not easy. It's worth it. It's worth it. But it's not
easy. But it requires you to recognize your own self-worth. You know, you look at,
Girls that have dated these loser guys and you're like, you're worth more than that.
What is wrong with you?
Stop it.
You deserve more than that.
You're worth more than that.
I'd say the same thing with socialism.
To everybody within the sound of my voice, you're worth more than that.
You're better than that.
You can accomplish so much more.
And you can't fix it.
You can't fix him.
You can't fix it.
You never could.
Love yourself enough to walk away.
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You know, it's amazing is this giant experiment of socialism and progressivism
has been being used on us for the last 20 years.
And they're trying to change everything about us.
You know, Michelle Obama said it best.
When we have to change our history, we have to change the way we talk to each other,
our language, our traditions.
and it's not working out well.
And it goes back to what I was talking about,
how people just think they can change somebody.
If you know the best marriage advice is,
if you're getting into a relationship
and you think you're going to change the other person,
it's doomed for failure.
Doomed.
It doesn't happen.
Unless that person wants to change themselves,
it's not going to happen.
And in a marriage, you just get divorce and misery.
But when it's a government and you've handed that power to it and said, oh, you'll go ahead and change everybody.
You get death and destruction and guns and bullets to the head.
I mean, it's the same way.
But it's amazing.
I think we need to teach our youth that socialism is all about, read their own words, it's all about changing people.
The system doesn't fit people, so you have to change people.
And that never ends well, ever.
can't change him. You can't change her. And you certainly can't change all mankind.
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gave a monologue on how socialism is that boyfriend that we've all seen.
Either our daughters or somebody that we know is dating some guy.
He's a total dirtbag.
He's, I mean, his relationships end the same over and over and over again.
And then the person that you love says, but I can change him.
And you're like, no, no, you can't.
You can.
That's what socialism is.
It's that boyfriend.
And the problem is when socialism actually believes it can change you.
Socialism believes it will change not just one person, but everybody.
It requires the world to change for the one dirtbag boyfriend.
You know that in any relationship, if you think you're going to change your spouse,
you're going to change your boyfriend, girlfriend, it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen. They have to want to change. They have to lead the change in their own life. You can't do it unless it's by force.
So that's the secret of socialism. It believes that it's a superior system to human beings. And so human beings will have to change. That's why Michelle Obama said we're going to have to change our traditions. We're going to have to change our language. We're going to have to change our history.
because you must change for it, not the other way around.
Now, let me show you how force comes into this by telling you a story of a new artist.
It's the first lady of New York.
Lady Mom Johnny, she's an artist.
Did you know that?
She's great.
I'm going to tell you a story that just happened with her.
Just found out, according to the Washington Free Beacon just ran a story.
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first lady of New York City, and I just love this. Her name is Rama, uh, Duaji. She's an illustrator.
I didn't know she was an artist. What a surprise. What a surprise? An artist being a socialist.
Huh, who'd have seen that coming? She's married to Mayor Zoran, Mamdani. And,
in April of 2024, she sat in front of a camera and animated a portrait of the man she said,
inspires all my work.
All right.
Who is it?
Who is it that inspires all of your work?
I tend to look for people who aren't killers myself.
You know what I mean?
I try to look for people who were not, you know, really heavy in the dark side.
But, hey, I'm not an artist like she is.
Okay.
in the video
she describes him
because he just died
as a, with pride,
as an artist of the Intifada.
And she also mentioned twice
and he's been jailed twice.
Makes him gritty.
Now the second Intifada
was blowing up buses
and cafes.
Okay? Pizza parlor in Jerusalem.
You know all of the places
that you think this place should be bombed.
More than a thousand
Israeli's dead, most of them civilians, but she's proud of him. Free Beacon went through his own pages on
October 8, 23, hours after Hamas butchered 1,200 people. He posted his painting of a fighter with a rifle
and the comments were all filled with applause. And then earlier, he called the founder of Hamas,
a hero. In fact, all of them are heroes. That's what he said. They're heroes. Really? The guy who
planned October 7th.
He stood in front of a banner
copied from one of his paintings
and thanked Iran for the money and the weapons.
And Monsour, the artist said,
well, that doesn't bother me.
Yeah, I'm glad.
Wait, okay, hang on.
You imagine you're standing there
and you're giving a speech
and, uh, or no, wait, you're an artist.
And somebody's giving a speech and they're like,
and I want to thank Adolf Hitler.
You'd be like, can, can somebody take the art behind them?
That's my art. I don't want that. No, no. He did the opposite. In fact, speaking of Hitler, in 2015, he posted a painting by Adolf Hitler and said, look at his technique. He's the first guy to say, you know, he wasn't that bad of an artist. Okay. In February 26th, well, maybe, I got to say it now. Maybe Tucker Carlson has said that, but I don't know anybody else. Anyway, in 2016, he shared a link claiming the diary of Anne Frank was a fake. And it was written by an American Jew.
Okay. So I don't know. I don't hold this guy up as, you know, the reason I paint.
But then again, I'm not married to Zoran Mamdani, you know.
I have spent a good portion of my life now.
Gosh, almost half of my life collecting documents and letters and originals.
And not because paper is valuable. It's really not.
It's because paper and documents are the last true witnesses.
I don't collect documents of people that say, oh, I know 100 years ago, this guy said, I connect, I collect the document of the guy who actually said it 200 years ago.
You know, when everyone else in the room is gone, the paper is the only thing that is left to say what actually happened.
And the first thing every liar in history goes after is the witness.
That's why they're going after our history.
You know, lies have birth certificates.
So what was the last lie he said?
The last lie he said, oh, it was an American Jew that wrote the Diary of Ed Frank.
And I swear you, I'm going to come back to Mom Donnie's wife.
This story is incredible.
The American Jew in the story is a real man, okay?
Meyer Levin, I think.
He was a novelist from Chicago.
He was a war correspondent who was there in 1945 when the camps were opened.
He was there.
A few years later, he read a French translation of the diary kept by a Dutch girl in the attic,
and he couldn't let it go, and he was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever read.
He wrote a review in the New York Times.
That's what helped make it a bestseller in America.
Well, he wanted to write a play.
Anne's father, Otto, chose other writers.
So he sued.
And he said they had taken his ideas and a jury awarded him $50,000.
Now, for the play, two men who both loved the book were fighting over who was going to put it on stage.
Within a couple of years, pro-Nazi pamphlets in Sweden and Norway had turned this whole thing inside out.
A Jew had been paid $50,000.
For what?
For writing the diary.
Same number, same names, but a new twist on the story.
Let's leave out the stage play.
the man who was the loudest champion of the diary in America was now the forger of Anne Frank's diary.
Otto Frank was the only one of the eight people in that attic who came home,
and he spent the rest of his life in courtrooms defending his daughter's handwriting.
When he died in 1980, he left the notebooks to the Dutch state,
and the Dutch treated them like evidence in a murder case.
So he dies and forensic experts come in.
They test the paper, the ink, the glue, the handwriting, letter by letter.
The famous ballpoint ink that deniers love turned up on a couple of loose slips tucked in decades later.
Not in one line she ever wrote.
So after six years in 1986, the verdict comes down.
She wrote it all, every word of it, between 1942 and 1944.
The deniers also love that there's two versions of the diary.
They're two versions because of a radio broadcast.
It was March 1944.
The Allies were coming in.
The Dutch minister in exile came on the air from London and said,
People of Holland, save your diaries, save all of your letters.
The world needs to know what happened.
Well, she's a 14-year-old girl.
She's listening in the attic.
The next day, she writes about it in her diary.
and then she begins rewriting her diary so it would be ready.
She knew she was going to be a witness and she was preparing her testimony.
Five months later, somebody betrayed them.
She dies in Bergen-Belsen.
Seventy years after that,
the painter who inspired the First Lady of New York shared a link calling Anne Frank a lie.
Now, this guy's best known painting hangs in the homes of Palestinians.
I'm sure that have never heard anybody.
You know, an artist can admire another artist's brushwork without saying, you know,
I'm a fan of everything else Adolf Hitler did, but it kind of fits in this.
She wasn't praising his brushwork.
She says she's praising the intifada, the fact that he fights, the fact that he fights,
the fact that he's been in jail.
The Free Beacon reports that after October 7th,
she liked Post calling the massacre resistance
and one calling the rapes a hoax.
Why did I tell you the Anne Frank story?
She served dinner at the Gracie Mansion to Mahmood Khalil.
The only thing she has publicly apologized for is a racial slur.
And her husband says, well, she's a private person.
I'm sorry, she's the first lady of the city of New York
with more Jews in that city than any other city outside of Israel.
And she lives in the people's house.
Private stopped being the answer to the day she moved in.
That same Anne Frank lie, the ballpoint pen and the $50,000.
I have seen posted by people who call themselves conservatives, patriots, Christians.
Same lie, different hat.
Lies don't belong to one side or another.
It belongs to whoever is tired of the witness.
Every genocide commits two murders.
The first kills people.
The second kills the memory.
So the first can happen again.
It never happened.
It's not a claim about history.
It's a permission slip for the future.
We watch the second murder begin on October 8th.
and people are calling the rapes a hoax
while the killer's own videos were still online.
This one didn't take 70 years.
It took a weekend.
And the only thing for a lie to survive
is a crowd.
But the truth only requires one witness
who will never sit down.
That's why I collect American history.
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That's why I have documented.
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because those documents
are the only true witness
and they will not be silenced.
You know, Anne Frank's not going to go away.
A girl who heard a voice on the radio
say someday the world is going to need to know
and she sat down with a pen
and she made sure the world knew.
The Nazis couldn't silence her,
the pamphlins couldn't silence her,
and Mom Donnie's wife can't silence her.
A German court even proved her.
A Dutch lab proved her.
The first lady of New York chose whose face to paint.
But in all honesty, this monologue's not about her.
Because you choose that every day as well with what you share, what you like, what you let slide at the dinner table in the office.
You're painting a portrait of who you admire.
I have to tell you, I do a lot of research on Claude.
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Who am I as a man?
If you spend time with Claude, you should do that.
You might learn something about yourself.
I did.
I did.
Mamdani painted the man who called that little girl a lie.
I'll take the little girl with a pen.
Hang her on your wall.
The truth must survive.
And that truth, you own.
Not your truth.
The truth.
You witnessed it.
You own it.
Stand up for it.
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Can somebody give me a update on Keith Malinac?
Have you heard anything this morning?
Not on the give-send go.
Keith Malinac is a guy who has worked with us for a long time.
He's been Pat's producer for, well, 20-plus years.
and last week he gets up during the show and he's just acting strangely and he says,
I'm sorry, I think I'm having a stroke.
And Jeffrey went out with him and it's like, I got to call 911.
He's like, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.
If somebody says they're having a stroke, call 911.
He had a massive stroke.
He's on event now.
The prayers are the most important thing that you can give.
Today and tomorrow are supposed to be the worst days of it and it'll start getting better.
It's like five days after a stroke is when, you know, it's at the apex of bad.
But he's in really bad shape.
And we ask for your prayers.
Also, if you've listened to the Pat show and, you know, if you've ever found anything entertaining or, you know, whatever, he is, his family has a very long road to go.
And they've set up a listener actually set up a give send go.com.
It's givsendgo.com slash help Keith Malinek with medical bills because he's going to be having them for a very, very long time.
Have we had an update?
Jason?
I ran into their studio this morning right before we went live.
And there was no real update.
It sounded like prayers for Keith and his recovery, heavy prayers for his wife and family,
because it sounds like they are just exhausted, absolutely exhausted.
and Carrie is so strong.
The kids are so strong,
but it sounds like a lot of people are asking for updates,
and now it's getting harder for them to give them out
because just all their energy.
Thank God the family has God.
I mean, she's a minister,
and thank God they have that,
because this one is a very hard road, a very, very hard road,
and our thoughts and prayers.
And by the way,
if you just want to send messages, you can, I think probably at Givesendgo,
you can just put messages up there, but she's reading the messages to Keith.
And she said, and that's the hard part, I know he can hear me.
And so they're at his bedside talking to him.
But he's in bad shape.
But thank you for everything.
Do we have an update on Gives and go?
How much is it?
BJ, do you know?
Last time we looked at that.
65. Yeah, 160. Yeah, 166,000.25. So thank you for giving. All right. I'm going to tell you a story in a minute here of something that happened in Guatemala the other day. And it could be one of your worst fears. It could be one of your worst fears. And it happened to this girl in.
Guatemala and I'll tell you about that. Jason,
also, what are we missing that we haven't talked about?
I know we have Ilhan Omar.
We have an update coming from a guy who is an expert on her, knows this story.
He's been following it for 10 years, knows this story probably better than anybody else.
He's going to be joining me in about half an hour to give us an update on that.
And it should be a substantial one.
What else do we, what else have we missed so far that we have to get to?
That's really the big one.
I still think we could go into just off your last monologue.
Talk a little bit about El Saeed.
A lot of good stuff there and some denials.
Oh, yes, yes.
You know, save that for about an hour from now.
Let's bring that back up in an hour from now.
I've got to tell you this story about something that happened in called Mala.
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So what is your worst fear?
What is your worst fear?
It's irrational fear.
Saturday, this last Saturday in a village high up in the mountains of Guatemala,
dirt road, corn on the hillsides, 15-year-old girl.
She wakes up before dawn,
and she has a pain in her chest.
She's 15.
She has a pain in her chest.
She says, mom, dad, by the morning, by the time the son comes up, she stopped moving.
Now, the accounts don't agree on what came next, but some say her father was carrying her
towards a clinic and just felt her goes still.
Some say she had gotten to the hospital and the hospital pronounced her dead.
We're not sure.
We're not sure which.
later reports say the hospital said she was dead.
But either way, she's coming home from wherever she was.
And dad has put her in a box.
Okay.
He gets a box, picks her daughter up.
I mean, it's, you know, the mountains.
Picks her up, puts her in the box, puts her in the car, drives her home.
The coffin goes into the house and they start having a wake.
And, you know, doing it the way the generations in Guatemala and the mountains have done it.
forever. All the neighbors come. Women are bringing food. Somebody lights candles. Nobody leaves her
alone. Seven hours. Maybe eight. She's perfectly still in the box. Around 2.30 in the afternoon,
somebody is standing near the coffin and sees the girl's eyes open up. She doesn't move. Just her
eyes open up. Now, me, I would have freaked out a little bit. Then she tries to sit up.
Now, there's video of the, you have to see it, room full of mourners.
And the sound they make is not quite a scream.
It would have been, I would have been screaming like a little girl.
It would be like, ah, ah!
Anyway, every hand in the room is reaching for her now.
Okay.
They give her oxygen.
She says her hand still shake, but she's getting better every day.
There's no medical report.
Nobody has produced a death certificate, you know, nothing.
deep, faint, heart that goes quiet, body goes cold, frightened father, can't find a pulse,
goes to the hospital, they can't find a pulse.
You know, there's no machine, nothing.
They, I mean, it's pretty crazy.
It's pretty crazy.
She wasn't in the ground.
That's the best part.
She wasn't in the ground.
She was in the living room.
And somebody was watching.
Now, there's a couple of ways to take this.
And I want to take it both ways.
First.
I went to George AI today because I had heard a story.
I couldn't remember if it was a prokifer or not,
but I heard a story that George Washington was deeply afraid of being buried alive.
So I look it up this morning before the program.
And it's true.
1799, Mount Vernon, George Washington, his throat is closing.
Doctors have bled him over and over again.
I mean, what they did to that guy is amazing.
They killed him, actually.
But anyway, he says, I die hard, but I'm not afraid to go.
Then he calls for his secretary, Tobias Lear.
He's at the bed.
And he writes down the last instruction of the father of our country.
It wasn't about the army.
It wasn't about the Constitution.
What was his last instruction?
Have me decently buried and do not put my body into a vault,
than three days after I'm dead.
He was terrified.
He wasn't afraid to death.
He was terrified of waking up in a vault.
Lear couldn't speak.
He just bowed.
Washington wasn't satisfied.
And he said, do you understand three days?
And Lear said, yes, yes.
So last words of George Washington was, after that,
you don't hear that build up.
Like, don't put me into a vault.
I don't want to wake up in the dark in behind marble, okay?
You don't hear that in his story.
His last words, after he said that was, tis well.
That's the end of George Washington.
It went on in his family.
Two years later, his sister-in-law begged to be left in her own bed.
She's like, just leave me until there is no possible doubt that I'm dead.
I mean, until I'm starting to stink up the room.
Just leave me there.
Okay.
Now, I thought that this is why we have wakes because we were waiting for the person to
possibly wake up. That's not what it is. It's a great story, but it is not. Nobody designed it as a
safety check. The 19th century, they were afraid of, they didn't want people to be alone.
And so, wake is an English word for a watch or a vigil. To wake was to stay awake.
You sat with your dead because you didn't want to leave people alone in the night.
okay and so the faithful were awake all night and they just prayed and neighbors told stories and
somebody kept a candle lit and you're sitting in the room with a dead body somebody at some
point had to say this is really creepy but they didn't apparently nobody designed it as a safety
check it was just love safety came along for the ride then in the 19th century we tried to do it with
machinery in 1792 a german duke orders a coffin with a window and a
an air tube and a lid that opened from the inside with keys sewn into his burial clothes.
Now, I don't know how you're going to get the coffin open of dirt's on top of you, but, I mean,
that was the deal. I guess you talked to the tube.
Hey, so many, I don't look at here.
Because somebody can't get me.
30 years later, a German doctor had himself buried alive to demonstrate this design.
He stayed down several hours while his helpers sent soup and sausages and beer down through a feeding tube.
I don't know.
I don't want sausages.
Can somebody dig me up?
Then a doctor ties strings to the hands and the feet and the head of the dead,
ran them up to a bell above the grave, built a little roof over the bell so the winds and the birds couldn't make it ring.
And a night watchman would walk through the cemetery a night listening for any of the bells.
Germany, I mean, Germany, I mean, they're freaky people.
But anyway, they patent more than 30 different bells to let people know, I'm dead.
And now I'm alive.
1868, New Jersey, old German immigrant, of course.
Patens a coffin with a square chimney over the face and a bell rope tied to the hand and a ladder so you could climb out on your own.
I don't know.
Cemetery would be freaky if there was a bunch of chimneys and I could look down and I could see the dead face down there.
He climbed in front of a crowd.
He was buried in the crimes out and then, you know, they lower him into a hole again and he does it again.
Okay.
So anyway, there's no documented case that any of this.
ever did anything.
It never saved a single life.
The machines never rang as far as we know.
What saved people was the same thing that saved this little girl, being still in the room.
We lost our fear during the Civil War, really, here in America.
So many people had died.
And bombers followed the armies so families could bring their boys home.
They weren't just buried.
They brought them home.
In 1865, when Abraham Lincoln dies,
they have people, you know, they file past his open coffin, which he was shot in the head.
That's kind of weird.
Anyway, his train was crossing the country and they left the coffin open so America could see it.
And then America wanted the embalming thing.
Once embalming was happening, then everybody was like, oh, you can throw me in a box anytime.
He's like, because nobody's going to wake up from the embalming thing.
That in the stethoscope and the death certificate and the hospital and the heart monitor.
But anyway, you get it.
The thing that haunted Washington was just now a Halloween story.
Why am I telling you all this?
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I found it fascinating myself.
But look what we traded for certainty.
Look what we gave away.
We used to keep, and I think it's creepy, but maybe back then it wasn't.
We used to keep the body of our loved one in our own home in a parlor.
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Washington wasn't afraid of dying.
He said so.
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So let me play J.D. Vance from yesterday what he said on the tarmac about the search warrant for Ilhan Omar's warrant in her house.
Listen.
No, look, I didn't not have advance notice that her home was being rated.
Look, I never, we try to run our Department of Justice in a fair and honest way.
We try to let the law follow the facts rather than creating facts just to prosecute people we don't like.
And because of that, I think the president and I largely try to stay out of Department of Justice investigations and other prosecutions.
Now, I do know that there are some serious allegations against Elon Omar.
We're going to look into those.
And again, if there's a real case there, we're going to follow the facts.
If there's not a real case there, then we won't.
So I generally believe him.
I don't think the president wasn't informed that they were going to go after a congressman.
Do you believe that, Jason?
I mean, if I'm the president, and maybe they were protecting me so I wasn't involved,
but I'd be a little pissed. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You were going after a congressman,
and I mean, that's going to cost, I mean, there's a lot of political calculation going on in there.
And maybe that's maybe that's the right thing. You know what? Now as I'm saying it out loud,
that's probably the right thing. Don't tell them. Do you believe that? Yeah, I mean, 20-ish days before the election,
you would think that they would have to notify them that something was about to happen because that's what
every media outlet is going to focus on, including the New York Times, speaking about the arrest warrant,
or the search warrant.
They said, quote,
the search warrant executed 22 days before the election day,
lists a series of potential...
Oh, that's how we'd report it.
Yeah.
Lists a series of potential immigration crimes under investigation,
including false statements and fraud and immigration paperwork,
as well as a general conspiracy charge.
So that kind of leaves it open a little bit to possibly more.
So we have David Steinberg on.
He's going to join us in just a good.
couple of minutes. He is a journalist. He has been following this, oh gosh, I don't even know.
2018, since 2018, he thought that in 2018, he thought her candidacy could lead to a perfect storm
and tip the scales of culture and everything else, which he was right on. And so in 2020, after about a year and a half,
He writes a story on the year and a half long investigation and says,
here's what we know about Ilhan Omar.
And he's the guy who really brought this to the front.
I think the Minneapolis Star also did a lot of work on this.
I mean, it's not just the right that has been saying these things about her.
but he is he's a guy who really knows this story inside now.
I'm anxious to hear, I've not talked to him yet.
I'm anxious to hear what he thought this is really all about
and what he expects from this.
Also, I think we have John Solomon on tomorrow
who will have probably some inside baseball stuff.
He wasn't available until tomorrow for us.
And so we will take him tomorrow.
He'll be able to give us a better, maybe inside,
baseball of what they're looking for because he's been following the fraud and
these arrests and everything else.
I have to tell you, we talked about it at dinner.
I had some friends up for dinner last night and we were talking about it.
And I just thought, you know, the consensus was this is a time bomb.
This is not going to go well for the president and for the Republicans.
Independence will not like this unless there's something.
And if you have something, you should release it pretty.
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About a family, but it's the opposite of the Brady bunch. It's not two families coming together
to make one. It's one family breaking up to become two. And that is the Ilhan Omar story.
last month the Secretary of Homeland Security
Mark Wayne Mullen said
something I've never heard a cabinet official
ever say about a sitting member of Congress
really or anybody else
quite honestly
quote we know that she married her brother
to bring him into the United States
we know he now lives in London
days later you have Tom Holman
who by the way was a Democrat
may still be a Democrat confirmed it on Fox
ICE has an open
criminal investigation. He wouldn't say what they have. He did say if somebody lied to become a
citizen in the United States and the government can prove it, the government will take away that
citizenship. This is a huge story, but it's really complex and I'm not really sure any of us
really know what it's about, what they're looking for. But David Steinberg, he is probably the
best person to talk to. He has been doing investigative reporting on this since way before COVID.
and he was the first to really kind of bring it up.
Him and I think the Minneapolis star maybe had been doing some stuff
because he saw her campaign and went,
this is trouble because there's all these rumors out there
and it started to come from the Somali community.
And then he pieced this thing together.
And I mean, he did years of work on it.
And he knows this story.
So what is this story really all about?
What does he think they're going for?
in this raid that happened yesterday on her house.
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one.org. Okay. David, it's great to talk to you again. How are you? Glenn, I was thinking
yesterday, right when I saw the headline of the raid, I'm like, man, Glenn's going to call me any
second, just like a few seconds later.
I'm telling you, 10.50 seconds later, I get a text from your booker.
I'm like, if anyone wants to, go ahead.
Yeah.
You're the guy who, I mean, you're the guy who did all of the work on this, all of the leg work.
I mean, we did a special on it.
A lot of it was based on your work.
And I couldn't believe at the time that no one had any interest in this story.
Because to me, it is very, very clear.
But I'm hearing now statute of limitations and everything else.
Can you first start, tell us the story in the most understandable way that you can?
And then let's talk about what happened yesterday.
Exactly.
The first thing I would say, you sounded a little concerned earlier that this might not go well.
First thing I would say is there is absolutely nothing to worry about as far as the facts go.
if we just want to, I can't speak to the warrant. I can't speak to why now. But if we want to talk about,
is this person beyond reasonable doubt guilty of a whole slew of fraud, immigration fraud,
marriage fraud, health insurance fraud, college loan application fraud, everything she signed for several years
was perjury, everything she signed as a married woman. We've got a whole spree here. And as I
asserted back in 2019, 2020, we may be looking at the most accomplished criminal as far as pound for pound.
I'm not pound for pound. Most felonies committed in congressional history here if all of this
is prosecutable.
So look, I would say first.
So what do we have that, hang on, what do we have, though, that is with, that is not covered
by the statute of limitations?
Do you know?
Well, you mentioned earlier that the New York Times had a, a hint that there was this
conspiracy charge.
That's very interesting to me.
as the marriage fraud, since she would have already been a citizen at the time the marriage fraud was committed,
that is beyond the statute of limitations.
A lot of the perjury charges are beyond.
Now, some of the perjury was committed in 2017 and absolutely was just left there.
It was obvious.
It was reported.
It was still left there with years to expire and never took action, of course, the Biden administration.
So as far as that goes, her crimes committed as a citizen, most of them appear to be beyond the statute of limitations.
Now, we talk about her father.
Her father, it's clear, look, it's beyond a reasonable doubt from my investigation and the other two reporters I want to mention.
It was Scott Johnson and Preas Samsondar.
We were the three, and together, between 2016, 2020, we put together 25 articles.
And I just made a list here of all the articles.
I'm going to try to get this out because I think the reason some people are still confused about this case,
how open and shut it actually is, is because they just never saw any of this.
Most of it is free.
It's before Elon bought X.
the majority of this.
So what survives the state?
Unless it's, unless it is the conspiracy theory, because when you have a grand conspiracy,
then everything is open up the statute of limitations no longer apply.
So if it's not that, is there stuff that is beyond the statute of limitations,
beyond the conspiracy theory?
Well, look, if we're talking about her father, we are beyond a reasonable doubt that this man,
was named Colonel Nersaid Elmi of the Somalian Army.
He was trained in a Soviet military camp in Italy.
He's a communist.
This was a communist setup.
He was trained before the wall fell in.
And then he was sent back to Somalia.
At the time, it was this Soviet vassal state.
And a genocide was committed while he was a part, a, a,
apparently a key leader in that army.
Now the war breaks out, he ends up in a refugee camp, and he enters the United States.
And again, if you read our articles, we are beyond a reasonable doubt that he must have lied
on his immigration forms to enter the United States.
Now that becomes original sin here because there is no statute of limitations on that.
If you lie in her immigration forms and it's provable, you can be deported.
50 years later, 100 years later, right away.
So she was brought to this country illegally.
So the family would be deported?
That is the question.
She was brought here as a minor.
She was 12 years old at the time.
Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi.
She was brought here illegally as Ilhan Abdallahi Omar, which was actually a second.
family. The Omar family is not her family. That is the second family, six other siblings.
She is not actually related to of that family. Her family is actually four known siblings,
all Nercaid Almis. And look, it's beyond reasonable doubt. Again, I have to get,
I really would like everybody to just read it or at the very least, I'll get you all 25
article, an AI bought on it saying, what are the chances here that anything else is possible?
Because again, what we did is we eliminated. There's no record of anybody in Somalia,
of course, because their record are destroyed. But there's no record of anybody in England
that could be this person she married besides her brother. There's no record of anybody in
America. I mean, he is the last person on Earth. There's nothing else to.
approve here. It's process of elimination. This happened. So I think that's why Trump and the
secretaries have stated it very clearly. She married her brother. They're not hedging anymore. They
know what happened. So what comes down to, again, John Solomon tomorrow, I presume we'll be
able to give you a better look at what exactly was in that warrant. Right. But don't, as far as the actual
facts. What is prosecutable? Again, that's going to be up for debate, but the fact that they went in there
and they did conduct this raid and there is that conspiracy charge. I will say this. I know they've been
doing this for at least almost two years. I believe January 2025, I got a call from HSI,
and I put together a list of everything that had been published.
I found some other details about her father.
And they did express to me at the time that this division,
we wouldn't be going after something like the fake marriage,
the division, this investigative division I'm a part of.
We look towards stuff like her father,
a possible war criminal, how he got into the country.
They explained to me that that seemed to be the focus.
So I was contacted that.
So when you say that, I'm just, I'm going to play devils.
I'm going to play a lefty journalist.
What she, what her father did makes no difference.
She came in.
She was seven.
She had nothing to do with that.
She's been in America.
This is the country that she knows and loves, blah, blah, blah.
Unless, if that's what they're going to use to try to get rid of her.
and because the statute of limitations has run out on everything else,
you better make the case that everything else was real
because the fraud that she perpetrated on the American people
and on the system itself, and you said it, are taxes, you know, the university,
everything was fraudulent.
You better make that case or it's going to, it's going to turn into
something sympathy for
see they're just trying to take people here
who have been here their whole life and get rid of them
sure well yeah
I can't speak to what they're going to do I really can't
I'm just this is
if you if you do take the time
to read it
I'm not talking to you in particular
I'm saying if anybody out there listening
if any of the Democrats
once again saying
Trump is racist politically targeted
blah blah he's abusing
the DOJ to go after his enemies. They're giving you a lot of hypotheses. And again, the experiment has
been run already. The research is done. The conclusion is in. This is hypothesis versus
conclusion as far as what she did. It is not possible to be a reasonable sane adult and look at
everything that's in and come to the conclusion that she's innocent. There's no one left.
on earth. There's no other possibility that we've been able to find. We've posted dozens and
dozens, maybe over 100 pieces of individual verified evidence. She has given nothing but a denial.
Again, that's the extent, if you want to say that it is a courtroom, her defense is a written
denial. And ours is over 100 pieces of verified, uh, everything.
evidence and how we came to find each piece of this evidence.
So we used, when we were writing these articles, we would explain exactly how, how any reader could go find these documents themselves.
So we left nothing. Yeah, go ahead.
I just want to know. So do you find it significant that a federal judge in the district of Columbia gave this warrant?
I mean, first of all, it's a judge in the District of Columbia.
They don't tend to be friendly.
But they know the weight of this.
They know that you're going after a sitting congressperson.
It better be right.
Do you think that that tells us anything about how strong the case is or not?
Well, the fact that a warrant was issued, yes, by a D.C. judge,
I don't see how you could possibly discount that in any way.
what's happened, knowing that that district is usually sought out for such things, expecting
it to go in the other direction.
So absolutely, yes.
But again, the judge, maybe it's an Obama judge.
I don't know.
Nobody can look at this case.
Nobody can look at all the evidence, have it all.
Nobody, this is not complicated.
Now again, we were talking about Homeland Security.
Homeland Security investigations. The idea is that, you know, they might be looking for a
workaround trying to say, trying to make the case that she is some sort of threat to
Homeland Security and that that's political, et cetera. No, it's factual. Look, I mean, that is,
that case doesn't fly either. Homeland Security investigations exist for this case. We have an enemy,
a combatant who helps commit a genocide for an enemy.
state, enters the country illegally, raises his daughter to be a socialist jihadist. Then with the help of
someone named Keith Ellison, who is now the Attorney General of Minnesota, he exited his seat at the last
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so she could take his seat.
It was engineered.
I mean,
the Homeland Security,
this is,
she has always been a literal threat to Homeland Security.
Objectively, anyone can see there's a problem here.
You look at the past 10 years of her in office and see there's a problem here.
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David, give me the article you were just talking about.
What was the point you were going to make?
Right.
So I'm mentioning how it is completely objectively reasonable to look at her
as someone who needs to be investigated by Homeland Security
as part of a long-running conspiracy.
So the article is in 2019.
Here's my headline.
I published this January 24th, 2019.
Ilhan Omar endorses Somalia's new president.
Four days later, Ilhan Omar's brother-in-law has a powerful job in his administration.
So Ilhan's sister named Sarinor, who was living in the United States at the time,
and who may have fraudulently opened a health care operation, by the way.
that's another angle to investigate.
I believe Daily Wire has done something on that as well.
But her sister, her sister's husband, her genetic sister's husband, was living in Somalia in 2019.
So Ilhan endorses the new president four days later,
her brother-in-law is chief of staff of the prime minister of Somalia.
Again, and she had been there in the article, I believe she had been in Somalia campaigning with them a couple months earlier.
David, would you send me all of these, send me all of these articles.
I want to look at all 25 or however many you have because I want to look at them.
I've already, I've sent a list already where I'm way ahead of you.
And I've been contacting.
So there were three of us writing these articles over a span of four years,
25 in total, and they were published at four different outlets, including the blaze.
Okay.
So David, thank you so much for your update on this.
Keep following it.
We'll keep in touch with you to find out, you know, what comes next.
And John Solomon joins me tomorrow, and both David and I think he's going to have the inside scoop.
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So I just put the 24 articles that David Steinberg was just,
talking about and I put them into
Claude. Cloud, so you
know, if you use any of the chat GPs
or the GPs,
Claude is
I think
the fairest, it leans
left, but as long as you
know that and then you counter it
by putting it through, which I haven't done yet,
but I want you to hear just what Claude said.
You put it into
um,
uh,
oh, what's it
uh, Grock.
GROC is the most frank, and I think the one that is most accurate on the truth,
is not afraid of the truth wherever it falls.
All the others, including Claude, are afraid of the truth if it falls outside of PC norms.
GROC is not afraid of it.
So I like to go to the one that is really, really cautious on PC stuff,
and then I put it through GROC, and I haven't had time to put it through GROC yet.
But let me just tell you what Chatsy P.T.
I mean, Claude said.
I take the 25, 24 articles, and I put them in to Claude, and I said, read all of these, do an analysis, and tell me how close to beyond a reasonable doubt do you think this is on the charges?
Comes back.
Short answer.
On the public record, the married her brother claim is not beyond a reasonable doubt, but it is a lot stronger than debunked.
One piece of its evidence is close to proven.
Essentially certain she filed joint tax returns with Ahmed Hersey while still legally being married to Elmi.
That comes from state findings, not bloggers.
A Minnesota campaign finance probe showed that she filed federal taxes in 2014-2015 with Hersey while still legally married to Elmi.
Strong and closest to reasonable doubt.
The 2017 sworn divorce filing.
She swore under penalty of perjury that she had no contact with Elmi after June 2011.
and didn't know where to find him.
Unfortunately, Elmi admitted by email that he was the man photographed with her in London in 2015,
and his social media shows him with Omar's daughter in 2012.
The caveat, perjury needs proof she knowingly lied,
and a 2017 state charge may be a well-timed Bard now.
Probable but not proven that Elmi is her brother.
Steinberg's best chain is a certified 1997,
UK marriage certificate where Lila Elmi lists her father as Nur Syed Elmi, a DC host publicly
thanking Omar and her lovely sis, Lila Elmi, and both Omar and Ahmed calling Lila's twins
their nieces. Add the identical, the identical patriotic and former friends 2020 claim that
Omar told him Elmi was her brother and she married him.
so he could study in the U.S.
It's a coherent, circumstantial case,
and Omar has never produced a single record that would end it.
She showed Politifak only a phone photo of her immigration papers.
But the weak link matters.
The key glue is anonymous Somali community sourcing, social post,
and family terms nieces, mom, and sis.
Those are used loosely in Somali culture,
and the most neutral, serious look to Star Tribune's record search,
could neither conclusively affirm nor rebut the allegation.
There's no DNA nor birth record nor testimony from Elmi or family.
My honest odds, if you're asking, is it more likely than not,
I'd put the sibling claim at around 70 to 80% on what is public.
If you're asking, could you convict on this?
Under 50%, a jury needs authenticated records or a witness, not a chain of screenshots.
That could change.
Tom Holman confirmed on September 13th that DHS is investigating, and DHS Secretary Mullen has claimed an internal investigation determined she married her brother.
But no charges or evidence have been released, and an investigation is not a finding of Rond doing.
If DHS has UK school guardianship records or Elmy's own immigration file, that's where reasonable doubt will get settled.
I think that's pretty for a left-leaning GPT, I think that's pretty strong.
strong. What do you think, Jason? It does. And I feel like exactly what Claude just said was kind of
what we ended up on when we were looking at this back in what 2018, 2019 was, wow, it's pretty
convincing, but there are a few things that could really prove it. And those are the things that
they could not get a hold of, you know, burst or something like that. We said at the time,
I think towards the end of the show, I said, this is all really compelling. But you have to have
federal investigators go in and get the documents that would prove these things to be true.
We can't take the screenshots, and that's basically what it's saying.
If you can get the documents that show that these things are accurate, then she's in real
trouble.
And for Mark Wayne Mullen and Homan both to come out and say what they said just a couple of
months ago, that we know this is true, we know she committed fraud and she married her brother,
that's significant. I still am anxious to hear what, you know, what the warrant was looking for.
Yeah, and I'm confused on, at the, it was the, and as per the New York Times reporting by them,
they had someone with the, of the, of the warrant, search warrant. And it mentioned immigration,
it mentioned a few other things, but at the bottom of it, it said, and, uh, and conspiracy.
What, what does that mean? Is that a, I don't even know what, what, what, what,
that would pertain to, whether that's something else completely or is this included in the
it sounds like they've got a lot of balls.
No, the conspiracy.
No, so this conspiracy, you know what the conspiracy means, right?
You don't know what that means?
I don't mean to stick you out like this, but I want to make sure I'm answering the right
question.
Well, just not missed it.
Yeah, so when the conspiracy charge is made, what they do is they look and see if it is,
if you've told a recent lie or done something recently that ties into a chain of a long-time
conspiracy. So if she's made some recent claim about this or done something and committed a crime
based on the lie she had been telling, like if she, I'm not suggesting that it's there,
but let's say she, you know, falsified her tax records last year or the last five years,
then and it had something to do with what she did in 2002,
you can then link them all together and so now you're responsible for all of them.
If a conspiracy, if a lie continues through to today and you're still claiming that lie,
then you can open up all of it.
So that's why I wonder what they were looking for.
Is there anything current that they are looking for that ties her to all of these things?
You know, and I also have this, go ahead.
I was going to say, we did see the federal officers yesterday coming out of her house with boxes of unknown contents.
So if that was relevant to any of this at all.
But they also did that at Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt that they would have never given Donald Trump.
They never gave Donald Trump.
You know, just because they're coming out with boxes in your house doesn't mean that.
that they found anything.
You know, I don't know what they're looking for.
I'm really anxious to see what Solomon says tomorrow.
Because I do think, you know, when we were having dinner last night,
we were all talking about those around the dinner table.
And the consensus was from everybody, they have something, right?
They have something.
Because if they don't have anything, if it's not conclusive,
if it's not a big deal, this close to the election,
you're going to all the independents are going to go look at what they're doing they're doing what
they said they were against with Donald Trump and they're just going in and arresting this
woman because you know what I mean those people who are independents are not playing the team game
thank God but are also not educated on what she has done in the past it will look really bad
I mean you have to come out soon in the next week or so you have to come out with something
and otherwise why did you do it before the election that was just stupid
Yeah, and typically in cases like this, the search warrant is pretty much the last thing that happens after you've already gathered all the information.
Then towards the end of the investigation, then you do the search warrant.
And I also will say, if this were Donald Trump putting it back in, you know, through that lens, they wouldn't have just carried out a box.
They would have staged the event inside the home and taken pictures and leaked them to the New York Times and whoever else, what other media out there.
Oh, that's what they did.
Well, the good news is, though, that Kamala Harris is thinking about,
she's taking the first step to get ready to run in 2028.
I mean, this is, oh, please do it.
Please do it.
This is crazy.
But the L.A. Times surveyed more than two dozen top donors of her biggest 2024 super pack.
Many of them, one million dollar plus givers.
and found there's no appetite for her return.
So she's planting the seat she's running and nobody wants it.
And then what's crazy is Newsom has said,
if she goes in, I'm not going to run.
Because I think it should go to her.
What?
What?
I mean, this is the battle of the losers.
The battle of the losers.
This is the worst bench I have ever seen in my life.
life. By the way, some good news. Did you see Senator Warren yesterday and the Senate Democrats?
Nobody recognized Indigenous People's Day yesterday. Do you notice that? Yes, I did.
That is a really, really big deal. The House Democrats put a picture, just tweeted out a picture of a bison and said, happy indigenous. Was the bison the bison, the one
it's indigenous? Yeah, because I think that's right. I think that's absolutely right.
But they were the only ones. The Senate Democrats didn't. Neither did Elizabeth Warren.
And remember, she was the one, you know, she was leading the powwow on this. So what does that tell you?
That tells you they know they're in deep trouble on splitting Americans by identity.
because that's been their whole thing
is to continue to split
Americans by their identity.
They are the indigenous people's crowd.
And if the holiday goes by
that they fought so hard for
and none of them are willing to say anything about it,
nobody's, I mean, I have no problem saying Christmas.
I don't care how unpopular that gets.
They know this is becoming very unpopular
and they're not willing to say Merry Christmas.
They're not willing to say, happy indigenous.
That means Harris, Newsom, AOC, Buttigieg,
Ossoff, Shapiro, Pritzker, Booker, Crockett.
The only one that posted anything was Mark Kelly,
and he took heavy criticism for it.
I think there's a sea change.
Don't play with my emotions like this, Glenn,
and making me think that all this is over with.
It would be great.
The thing is, when we look at this,
We've seen like, it's just like DEI, you know, in the corporate space.
We see all of them, you know, a bit we look looking like they were abanding it, you know,
like they were jumping off a sinking ship.
But the problem is the leadership that they have in a lot of these companies were the ones that were pushing it so heavily back when it was in style.
So was it just dormant for a while?
And it's going to come back with.
They might lose the companies.
They might lose the corporations.
And here's why.
Because if you look at Newsom and then Harris and then Warren,
I mean, who are they going to run?
I mean, the dark horse would be Luigi Mangione.
And that could be the final thing that separates them from those corporate boards, you know,
if you're running him for president of the United States.
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All right.
Let me play something from El Cahed from Cut 1.
This is his interview on Meet the Press this weekend.
Listen to this.
You were to tax people with $100 million or more, a wealth tax.
And we're not even talking about a serious wealth.
I just want to think this through.
Okay.
Imagine you tax based on wealth based on what your money made last.
year. If you're a billionaire, you don't work, you don't make your money off of the money
you earn working. You make your money off of your money. So if you're a billionaire earning 10%
on your billion, you're making $100 million. So even if we tax you at 8%, you know, you still
made $20 million doing nothing. Doing nothing. Doing nothing. First of all, wealth tax never works.
They did it in Paris. Hey, by the way, do you see the streets of Paris today? Why don't you
roll that behind me while I'm talking about this?
did it in Paris. They've done it all over the world.
Wealth tax, people with wealth,
because they can, they move.
They go to another country that doesn't
charge them. By the way,
and you're doing nothing. You're taking
your money and you're investing it
in companies that you
believe are
good for people and will grow.
You start hurting
the stock market and you're
cutting jobs.
I mean, this just shows these guys have
absolutely no idea how the free market
it works, but why would they? If you're watching us on Torch right now, you can see what's
happening on the streets of Paris. They're all dressed in black. They're all carrying flags.
They're all setting things on fire. That's the education that they get. They need to take a
moment and educate themselves on how this whole thing works. There's a reason why once the free
market came into play, all of a sudden, man's life changed. We went from fire to
walking on the moon in less than 200 years. Why? Because there's something that happens when the free
market, done right, is coupled with humans. That turns out really well for billions of people.
