The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 136 | How the War in Ukraine FAST-TRACKS the Great Reset | Adam Curry | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: March 5, 2022

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Zstacklife.com slash Beck. Enter the promo code Beck and save Zstacklife.com slash Beck. I don't know how we've never met. Funny you say that because we should have met in the top 40 radio days at least. At least. I think the guy you worked with at MTV, Steve Perrin. Remember that name? He was a programmer of MTV for a while.

Yes. Right around when you started. I think. No, so it was later. He was maybe 90. I was there. I was there. I was there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He left my station to go program MTV. And I'm like, there were a lot of, MTV was very interesting because when I got there in 87, they had just gone to basic cable, which meant 40 million households, like, mind blowing. But it also meant we have to be careful what we say. And I came from Europe where I was working with, you know, state television. And you came to MTV. It was Mickey Mouse.

They literally had small studio, no wardrobe, no makeup. The lighting guy would come in once a week and go, okay, stand on your mark, cluck, cluck, okay, you're good. I'll see you next week. So it was really, really, really low tech. But it was a very interesting time because no one really knew what cable was. Like, this is not real television. You can't make any money.

No one's going to advertise on that. So we would actually go out to all the cable operators who were all little John Malone. You know, like they were all, you have to go out when we have dinner with my wife. You know, it's kind of like the radio business, but they brought in radio guys to program music television. And when they did research, which is another great radio thing to do, they would call people, play the song over the phone and say, what do you think? And I was like, you're kind of missing part of the beauty of this in your research. You know, it's also the visuals that make this.

Right. So we went through a lot of different radio programmers who came through MTV in the early days. Do you think because you were at MTV, you saw podcasting so early? No. That started when I was seven. Six, actually. And it started because my grandmother gave me a solid-state Sony AM transistor radio. It was about this big, had a handsome leatherette carrying case, and nine-volt battery.

I could see it. Oh, no, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And I would listen to the basketball games under my pillow, fall asleep. sleep that way. And I was fascinated by the sound. And these guys were, and I'm not a sports not at all. I really not. But I love the squeak on the floor, the crowd,

the mix, the guys describing what was happening. So at 7, my mother gave me the album set The Golden Years of Radio. And I was listening to Orson, Wells, in the shadow. And I was hearing the same

thing. And I was just dumbfounded by the power of the spoken word and how much much more visual you are when it's done right. Yes. And so this came back with, and I've always been kind of a nerds. I would build,

I built my first FM transmitter when I was 11. But it was kind of the thing. I build it. I see how far the signal reach and then I kind of, you know, people were figuring out the signals here and I put a record on the record player and then I built a little mixer and got two of them. So

I had figured out the technology for podcasting in 2000, which was really just my idea of how can I eliminate this bandwidth problem we have? And I just moved back to Europe. We had cable modems, which was great because the one thing it offered was not speed. You didn't have to dial up. So the computer was on the whole time. And my thinking was, well, what if you want to have a real experience of a video is what I was thinking at the time? Wouldn't it be cool if your computer just ran something in the background and downloaded whatever you were looking for and then told you when it had it on its hard drive. So a click would be instant satisfaction. And I convinced Dave Weiner to put that into RSS, kind of like an attachment.

And three years later, and we would just, this was just kind of, it was there. We were using it between the two of us, no one really doing anything. And I see my first iPod. And I went, it's that transistor radio. My grandma gave me. This is not a digital Walkman. This is a radio receiver. And right away, I built a little Apple script with some help from people who can actually program. And so I would release a show, the name podcast didn't exist yet, as an MP3, and you still had to sync your iPod to your computer. So the computer would download the show at night, automatically sync it to your iPod. And they're in the playlist, instead of an album title, it would say Daily Source Code podcast and it had the episodes

under it. And that, I mean, that was just, that was the whole loop. When I looked at that thing, I went, uh, now I know what this is. Unbelievable. Yeah, that's where it comes from. Let's talk a little bit about the world today and where it's going. I know you're obviously a tech geek. I'm really into futurists.

I, you know, I love the, I'm both terrified and thrilled about future technology, so I'd like to get into that with it. Sure. But let's start with the world today, Ukraine, on fire, Putin. Seemingly, everybody in the media today screaming that we've got to go to war. What are your thoughts on all of that? Well, I approach this from a little different angle, and I have to go back to really to 2008, 2009, but 2019, when there was something going on. in the reverse repo market and I've done a lot of study no Glenn no there's nobody else I've

never met anybody I know right where you're going reverse repo market yeah in 2019 I was oh I love you so thank you for your book I not only did I appreciate the book I understood most of what was in it pretty much all of it and it was really nice for me to the great reset is your book to be reminded but what I love the most is my wife took that book right away and she gave it back to me with stuff highlighted. She did. She's, she loved it. She's like, I finally can put my arms around modern monetary theories.

She's like, finally understand what's happening. Didn't that piss you off just a little bit? She's living with you? No, that she was living with you and you're like, I've been trying to tell you the whole. Well, she comes from such a different place and world and our world's melded so well together and she's like, I had no ideas. I was happy. I was living a life. I watched the Today Show. I loved, I read People magazine cover to cover. And she said, I had no. And also, and this is the sad part. She said, I really, and she's from Indiana. I really truly believe our government

meant well for us and would be protecting us. Now, for me, it was 15 years ago that I went, oh, hold on a second. And I started to see some stuff. And I was like, ah, something's going on here. The I believe all of what we've witnessed in the past, well, really the past 50 years, but in the past, uh, 12 years is all financial problems. All of it. And whether COVID doesn't, doesn't matter where it came from. It was abused to shut down the economy because there's a huge balance sheet problem in the financial system. And it's global. Can you explain? Because I can't. The reverse repro. Um, and part of that wrong. You had most of it right, but yeah, I still don't don't get it. So the banks are all basically bankrupt and you have to understand that,

and I still cannot explain global finance. I have friends who work there, used to work there, and they kind of look at me, don't you see how easy it is? Don't you see how, and the reason why they say that is the basis of central banking financial systems is this keep the 2% inflation rate. What that really means is we're going to try to only print two, percent more money each year. That's what that actually means. And we have all these confusing what is inflation? Well, it's this basket of goods that went up. Yeah, you changed that five times in the last three years. So, you know, really inflation might be at 20 or 25 percent. But it's really about the money printing. And in 2008, they just cranked it up so hard. But what that was doing,

you have two kinds of money. You have the bank reserves kind of on the, sorry, I can't stand it. The bank reserves on the federal reserve side, and then you have the money that we use, and it goes through the retail banks. But if you have all of this money here, it has to get out, but not too fast, because then you have skyrocketing inflation, which means we're paying more for everything. So it's a balance. That's all I can really explain about. It's a balance of the money that they make up and the money that we use, and that has to be in balance somehow. It was way out of whack because the banks were insolvent and the way they solved their problems is they go overnight to the lender of last resort, which is the Federal Reserve. And of course, everyone has learned through you and Ron Paul that it's not a federal organization.

It's like Federal Express. And that's supposed to be like an overnight thing. Just a quick, you know, oh, we have a little cash flow problem. Just hook us up with a trillion. And it used to be the discount window. Before 08, it was called the discount. Kind of window, yes. Which had shame to it.

If you were a bank that bellied up there. You were in trouble. You were in trouble. And everybody knew. It was very public. And everybody, all the other banks went, oh, boy, they're in trouble. Yes. Yes.

And so the same thing happened, which you correctly identified, the same thing happened in 2008, 2009. The reverse repo market was getting a little crazy. Now, what they was significantly different was it used to be overnight. Then it became two days, two weeks, three months. That means something, someone in the system or some banks are technically insolvent and they should be cleaned up, but no one wants to do that. So the way you fix that is you keep extending these loans. And so it wasn't like $130 trillion that we actually gave to the banks. And of course, as you identified, Bank of Scotland, Bank of Japan.

I mean, it was all this money. But it's really the central bank's money, not our money. But we have to pay the bill for it through inflation and all the. this other stuff on the other side. So they never cleaned that up. They stuck it in, you know, they did quantitative easing and all these, these terms that basically mean we're getting rid of this problem by buying stocks and buying Apple and anything else, which kind of, you know, fueled the stock market and the big transfer of wealth, everybody who had stocks made, you know, doubled their money, if not tripled their money. So this started, but it was the same money being

lent over and over again. So really it was probably 11 or 12 trillion that kept being lent over and over. It's not cumulative, but still, $11 trillion. And then you see how much money has been printed in the last two years, printed being Federal Reserve made it, 40% of the money supply. This has to get out, it has to go somewhere. And that means, well, if you want to stop everything, you shut down the economy and you say, you know, pandemic. you can't go out, you know, let's close small businesses. And that gave them some breathing room. Right.

I think on, and I take the elites at their word. Antonio Guterres, the UN Secretary General on January 21st, tweeted the following. I have reached out to all the UN member states, and I have told them to prioritize the following five things. One, tackle COVID-19. Two, transform the global financial system. What? Number six. Three, climate change.

Okay, so now let's talk about climate change. And then the fourth is like, put the human being at the center of the digital universe. My skin crawls when I hear that. I'm like, what are you talking about, bro? So transforming the global financial system is number two on the list ahead of climate change. Right. You can't really tackle climate change without the global financial system. Precisely.

We need carbon credits. We need social engineering. What I see how. happening is so illogical. We want to move to a carbon net zero by 2050. Now, anyone who has a brain will say if we're taking away petroleum and oil and we're replacing it with renewables, doesn't that screw up the petro dollar? Well, because the reason why the dollar is the reserve currency is because we told Saudi Arabia, priced it in dollars, everyone buys it in dollars, we clear those dollars through the New York Fed, through Swift. And if someone makes a

problem, then we'll come in with our army. And if you try to sell in euros, correct, Gaddafi, you know, will come and kill you. And that's basically how the dominance has always been there. So clearly that's not aligned with the climate message and enter the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, the Fink. I call him the Fink, Larry Fink. These are people who are, transforming our world in front of us. Openly. Oh, no, this is the point. This is no conspiracy.

They're telling you. So I googled that phrase, transformed the global financial system. Up pops, GFANS, which is the Geneva Financial Advisor Net Zero organization, headed by Michael Bloomberg, headed by Carney, the former Bank of England director. Fink is in there. The CEO of every single bank, city, JP. They're all in there. And there's a pledge.

It's Glasgow, isn't it? The Glasgow, not Geneva? Oh, Glasgow. I'm sorry. Yes. Sorry. No, no, thank you. And I look at the pledge that they have in there.

And the pledge says, I pledge that every deal I do, everything I do right now will be to get us to net zero by 2050 or before. And I will not invest in anything that has to do with oil. So now we get to where we are today. What is, what is, so we have a. Putin, Russia, we don't need to talk about what actually the history of that is. Kinetic attack, supposedly, it seems a little sketchy, all the stuff that I'm seeing. And we're hitting back with what? Financial weapons.

Why? Why are we using financial weapons? I believe this is it, Glenn. I believe this is never let a crisis go to waste. This is the tipping point. We need to price energy so high because that's the effect. That's the effect. Energy is going to be so high and some other.

Because when you, and we can talk about Swift in a minute, when you change something in a system and a network like that, I know enough from technology that one small change, that can screw up a lot of things. Already wheat prices are now as high as Arab Spring days. So there's going to be really, really, really hard times. And I think that the idea is to shut down global production because of the cost of energy. No one's going to want to produce. Go back home, sit at home, don't worry. we'll take care of you just like COVID. We're going to send you money.

This time, though, not a check. This time it's your Federal Reserve digital dollar. And then we're in deep trouble. And I don't think that's stoppable. I think that is unstoppable at this point. But I'm a doomer optimist. So I have ideas and solutions. I have ideas.

I am an optimistic catastrophist. I'm also a conspiracy therapist. So, yes, I have a number of phrases, yes. Thank you for saying that, because I felt very alone. Alone, you're sure. Very alone. Yeah. And I just, I keep watching this.

And I know about 2019. I know there was a problem. I said on the air, in November, this thing's going to melt down by spring at the latest. Something's really wrong. That's when the lockdown came. That's when the lockdown came. And I heard you yesterday on your radio show and you were saying, something feels wrong about Ukraine.

And that's it, Glenn, this, to me, Putin may be in on it for all I know. This is trying to make, and the banks that deal with energy in Russia are still able to access Swift. So it's like, it's not like completely closed off, but it's starting to siphon. And by the way, if you have a problem with too much money on the public side, it's a great way to burn $630 billion by not making it transferable. And so what happens? Oh, the Fed says, I don't think we're going to raise interest rates anymore. A week ago, five times. I know.

Five times. Of course. You bet. Five times. And then we may need to print a little bit because, you know, war. And the next thing will be, oh, my goodness, we can't produce anything. It's too expensive. We'll print some money and we'll make sure that you get it.

And then once that happens, then the magic of technology comes into play. where, and this is, again, open the Canadian Banking Association, the Bank of International Settlements. Let me just say, to those who are listening, those who are listening right now, the rest of this podcast is not going to improve your mood. It might, we might get to some cool stuff at the end. Listen all the way to the end, you'll love it, especially that last bit.

So then you can do things like, well, we're going to give you this money to keep you at home and we're really sorry about the problems in the world. By the way, you can only spend it at McDonald's and Walmart and Target. So an individual, you know, or this is where the social credit score comes in. Like, hey, you did a great job. You watch the good things on Netflix. And this is already taking place with the credit karma. Credit karma already does this.

Rewards you with credit karma. I don't know that. Credit karma is, it's basically an app. Well, you know, people have been convinced that you have a credit score. And there's a real credit score, which is, you know, FICO and the experience. But the credit score that is in these apps that help you improve your credit is really not the official credit score. It's gamified loan sales. So you're like, oh my gosh, I need some.

money. I have a crazy ass. I have a low credit rating, 400, 500, whatever it is. And the first thing you do, by signing up, you immediately see, congratulations, your credit score is now $6.50. And now if you get Netflix, it'll go up to $6.75. And if you, good job, you went to the gym. And now we'll let you borrow some more money. You see? And this is already bringing in the be a good person, we'll get you money. When it's digital, two great things can happen. One is you can determine or you can nudge people or you can actually force them. Hey, and if you don't spend it, it's going to go away. And so the beauty will come. You no longer have to make more money. Your digital bank account will be $100, but it's actually $100 and nine numbers after the decimal point. And they will take

the last two and just chop them off. So you reduce the money, from the people directly. That's how it's going to work. So you don't, this is how you keep an imbalance. Modern monetary theory has to go digital. It needs to. It just becomes too crazy on the upside. You have to do it on the accounts themselves.

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And that's not the actual invisible hand of the market. It's a magical thing. Correct. It's God or whatever. It's not someone controlling it. But these people are insane. And I'll humanize them because they don't know. This, interestingly,

Naomi Wolf, you know Naomi Wolf. I mean, most liberal person you can imagine. And she got excoriated when she's, and this is another thing. When she said, hey, hey, vaccine passports, this is a bad idea. Something's bad. So she got kicked out of all the liberal world.

And she was with the elites all the time. And she started writing these substacks about he said these people are not evil, there's evil. And they've taken hold of these people and it's given her. And me too. If you believe that there's an evil force, what's it fighting against? It has to be God. I'm now also like, I need to look at faith.

You know, there's something really, really messed up. And it's not just people. There's no, it's not Klaus Schwab at the top going, ha, ha, ha, ha. No. It's an evil that is, it's the same. Is it how unusual is that for you to say that? Extremely. And I've actually had an ongoing,

my wife and I'm talking to lots of people about it. But were you an atheist, agnostic? No, not an atheist. I've baptized as a kid. My whole family, definitely Christians, Catholics, you know. Okay. But not. My parents, they raised us Unitarian, which is like, oh, that was lame.

We had to go up on the mountain top of three in the morning and play Cat Stevens' morning has broken. ruined Casteven for me. Like, no way. I went to a Unitarian church when Tanya and I were looking for my wife and I were looking for a church to go to. We went to a universalist Unitarian, and I swear to you, the pastor said halfway through, now, you all know that I don't believe in God. Okay. Okay, thanks.

I was like, wow, that should be on the door or, you know, some sign outside. But, you know, I'm 57 now, and of course I've learned to pay attention to things more. And I'm getting nudged. I was at my friend's daughter's wedding, and it was almost full mass in the church. And I really felt something there. You know, it's like, but anyway, it's kind of like the, is it the Milgram experiments where they'd have someone shock people

and how easy it is for people. As long as someone in authority says, don't worry, it's okay. It's fine. The screaming is okay. You can turn it up to 300 volts, 400 volts, 400 volts, D.C. which will kill you. And that evil has grabbed a hole, not overnight, but very, very slowly.

And it's reflected to me all in the financial markets. My interest in what is happening in Ukraine would be just as high or as low as Yemen or Iraq or Syria or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or the United States. we are going through severe oppression by elites. Yeah, and it's weird because if you're just observant, Brexit kind of sounds like the Tea Party. The people in Ukraine kind of sound like Brexit. The French sound like the Ukrainians. even the people that are protesting, we all have one thing in common.

We may have different cultures or backgrounds, but we're all saying something is wrong with our leadership. The entire globe right now is the elites are moving towards fascism. It's either fascism or international communism. It is fascism. It is fascism. We're in it right now. It's just recognized it.

And people. Global fascism. Correct. Global. Yeah. And people, because we've overused the word fascism and don't really even know what a fascist really is. Like racism, it's all been overused.

Yeah, right. Yeah. We're seeing things that are right out of 1984. Mm-hmm. And we've always been at war with Eurasia. Yeah. Yeah. China, Russia.

Yeah. Yeah. So, and you'll appreciate this. 10, 15 years ago, you know, I saw the, I saw the vaccine, uh, plan. You know, they did a big J.P. Morgan conference. They were talking about. They're going to have a vaccine.

Everything's going to be a vaccine. Like, oh, really? And it was going to be genetic stuff. Um, everything we've seen with, with the financial markets, everything we've seen with climate change, with socialism. We were total nut job conspiracy theorists continuously. Uh, it's not, oh, counts on formal relations, just a drinking club. Don't worry about it.

Try a lot of just a drinking club. But now, arguably it's the same situation except now when they say it they're doing it. They've been telling us for all these years we're going to do it. And now it's happening. That's what's freaked me. I've said these things. I started on Fox and immediately nailed for saying, wait a minute, this doesn't make sense and this isn't right.

And look at these people. What are they doing? And I'd like to say about your Fox Show, thank you. You educated an entire generation with your Blackboard. Everyone loves your Blackboard. I mean, George Soros, which I think is not. Now Alexander is probably running more of it than George. You know, it was all, and it would always be great.

It's like, how long will it take for Glenn to get the Soros? I know. And it's still there. It's still there. And now people are like, holy crap, Soros got my DA elected. Right. In San Francisco, Los Angeles, Austin, everywhere. What's frightening now is I was saying, these things will happen.

It's coming. Now it's here. It's all right there. Don't believe me. pick up a paper a paper pick up you know go online go directly to the source go to whitehouse dot go treasury dot go it's right there and yeah so we have zero news zero news media i mean just yeah it's all this is where i where i get very optimistic um so for me first of all um podcasting is alive and surviving and it's not deplatformable certainly with podcasting 2.0 that we've

now put into place. What is, wait. Oh, okay. Tell me what that is. That's not in your research about me? I can't believe. No, at least I didn't read it. Okay.

Oh, who reads the research, Glenn? Two years ago, just before the lockdown March, I have to go back a little further. Podcasting 1.0, Steve Jobs called me in 2005 and said, Adam, can you meet with me? I'm like, maybe. Okay. One of the most impressive people I've met. Really, really, very, very interesting guy.

I met for an hour. And the pitch was, I want to put podcasting into iTunes for the iPod. And I'm like, yeah, of course. And we have a directory. Here's our 2,000, 3,000 podcasts that existed at the time. Now, as a radio broadcaster, I never considered radios being a problem. There's always a radio around. Everybody has a radio.

The radio for podcasts is the app. So what I kind of did by default, and it was a mistake on my part, is I made Apple the default on-ramp to podcasting. You had to go through their approval process, which you don't really need. You just need a server, an MP3 file, and an RSS feed, and you're good to go. So now, because of the way Apple did that

and how their app works, their database, their index of all podcasts, became the default that any developer would use to do their app with it. There was really no incentive. And these are the radio receivers. So we basically had one, Apple, and then we had smaller,

ones and much smaller in scale. But people over time, 20 years, going on 20 years, really develop a personal relationship with their app. Not really an incentive, though, for app developers. Because, you know, how are you going to make money? 99 cents in the app store, which Apple also takes 30%. You know, it's just a radio. You want a one-time purchase you're done.

You don't want to subscribe to your radio. And then something happened that I'd not expected. And Apple had been good stewards of podcasting. they overnight with in collusion with Google and Amazon and Facebook and all these companies, they de-platformed Alex Jones and like

five other podcasts. One was like the X-22 podcast. I listen to that. It's innocuous. It's fun. Who cares? And I said, okay, that's it. No. And I called my buddy Dave Jones, who I've been working with for 10 years, said, we're taking it back. We're going to

create the podcast index, podcast index.org. anything that's stored in there we'll never leave I don't care how are you storing it it's just in a database it'll be an open database copies available all the time so anyone

can take this and we now have four and a half million podcasts in there and this is real not like the million junk things from Anchor and all these other Spotify related things and we have an API and we make that available to developers and what happened was

they came in droves oh my goodness and we want new features. And so it's created this, it's completely backwards compatible with 1.0. We now have chapters and transcripts and location and people and seasons and all the things we wanted to do.

They're creating new apps with stuff that is new experiences. And then the final coup d'etal was, okay, so now we're safe. If your podcast gets taken off the Apple index tomorrow, you're still in all the podcasting 2.0 apps. What happens if PayPal D platforms?

you or Patreon or whatever your payment or Google you know so how do you make money now johnsy devorek and i started no agenda we're now in our 15th year and we created the value for value model and it went like this hey this is so this is now 15 years ago there's a lot of work to do this show you guys need to pay us otherwise we're not going to do it uh why don't you send us five bucks a month and of course some people send us five bucks a month and we looked at the amount of work we said this is this is not enough money for us to continue to do it but do it. We said, you know what? Give us whatever you think it's worth. You listen to us for an hour and a half. You could have gone to the movie theater, taken a date, had a Coke, a popcorn,

50 bucks. Was our hour and a half worth 50 bucks? Whatever it's worth to you. Glenn, something magical happened. We got a lot of $5 donations. We got a significant number of $50 donations and several $500 donations. Never look back. I said, this is the way we do it. Value for value. Yeah, there's a pitch to it. You have to explain. And, you know, you know, And there's many ways to do that. The loop closes, though, when people send their donation, we read out the amount with their note. And then people start to do numerology,

and they start to communicate. And then I said, oh, my God, this system, it's a loop. And it works perfect for radio. It's a perfect people want to be producers. They want to be a part of the system. So I translated this into a monetary system. So now when you use a modern podcast app, you click play, you predetermined this podcast is worth $2 an hour to me. You could make it $2.20, it doesn't matter.

You click the play button every 60 seconds, 160th of that amount is being transferred directly from you to the podcaster. No one in between, no bank, it's Bitcoin on the Lightning Network. And it truly is micropayments. And so when you stop, the paying stops. Wow. If you hit the boost button, you can send, it's something like super chat on YouTube, and you can send a message, and the podcaster receives that. And we've built this out into a digital royalty system where you, as the podcaster, can say,

okay, I want 10% to go to my producer, 20% to the sidekick or whatever, and 5% to my mom who invested in the, and they can all have their own digital wallets. And again, it goes not through anybody. It goes directly from that person to them. And this is sweeping the podcasting space. New podcast apps.com is where you can get them. And it's all open source. The whole project is funded by people who just want to fund the project.

And so now we have, you cannot be deplatformed, either your show itself or from the financial system. and I have great optimism for the older millennials because I was into Bitcoin very early on because people were sending me Bitcoin like in 2012 and to be honest DeVorak and I were like this is Beanie babies yeah yeah yeah when I can pay my rent yeah and so in 2015 or so I'm like hey this thing is a thousand bucks let me go see if I have have them. I had 65 Bitcoin. I sold them all, Glenn, for a thousand dollars. All of them. Yes, I did. Oh my gosh. So when the pandemic came around and Bitcoin dipped below 4,000, my wife and I go like, we're not making that mistake again. Yeah. And now, but the people I met and

the understanding I got is how I understand the problems with the financial system. When you understand what sound money is and how Bitcoin works, which is probably a whole other podcast by itself, you get this appreciation for what's wrong with our system today. And the young... And I think people are, between Canada and Ukraine, Russia, I think people are starting to go, hey, wait a minute. Well, if this could be a real problem. If the global elites, this is not government, SWIFT system is not a government system.

It's a commercial banking system. But yeah, there's Ursula Fund the lion saying, we all agree, kick them off SWIFT, and we did it in consultation with the Biden, which means he had nothing to do with it. But then also Canada is saying, oh, no, we're blocking your accounts. Hello, when do we wake up? They're taking your money. If they're not stealing it through inflation and money printing, they're literally taking it. You can't raise money for a protest.

I mean, that's crazy. And that's American companies. That's crazy. So you have this group of older millennials, mainly men, but more and more women are coming in. I'm talking 25 to 30 something. And they were born around Gulf War, one, which might have been weird, a little bit, pretty young. But then 9-11, that's, of course, traumatic for anybody.

And then they saw, you know, like anthrax and Colin Powell and aluminum tubes and weapons of mass destruction. We went into a different country. Oh, Saddam Hussein. Oh, Osama bin Laden. And then we got the big financial crisis. Don't worry, we're going to fix it. Everything's going to be fine.

These kids come out of college, 100 grand in debt, making $12 an hour, which is the same you could make 20, 30 years ago. And they're not moving forward. And they're saying, you know what? You broke the social contract with us. We're checking out. And they are. And they're building an alternate network of everything.

So doctors, you can pay in Bitcoin. You can, it's concierge's health. So what do you think about, I mean, just today, Elizabeth Warren said, we've got to come out and, you know. She's all in on the digital dollar, by the way. Oh, I know. It's her proposal. Right. She and Bernie.

And the Hamilton project up in Boston with the Fed and MIT. Hamilton, after the Constitution, the first guy is like, Central Bank, Central Bank. I know, I know. No wonder the elites like that play. It's exactly right. Right? Yeah. Because, ha, ha, that's our guy.

That's our banking guy. Yep. Yeah. Hey, how's that inflation working out for you at the supermarket? Right? Right. Prices keep hitting all-time highs. We're number one.

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down? Shut Bitcoin down? Yeah. No. It's a protocol. They can stop all the off ramps, can't they? Well, what is an off ramp? So we have what we call... Changing it into it. dollar. Right. Well, we have

what we call decentralized exchanges. Now, the easiest way is you go in, this is in Nigeria where they've been doing this for years, go in the coffee shop, say, hey, dude, I need $100. Sure, you got Bitcoin? Okay, give me the $100, here's your Bitcoin. Right there. That exchange is happening all over

the world. I know personally that some truckers had people on the ground because, you know, there was all kinds of issues would send the Bitcoin to the, who you were watching live streaming on YouTube. Hold on a second. man, we send you this. He got, I got it in. I'm going to go buy the diesel for the trucker. And I'll keep the Bitcoin and I buy the diesel. So that's, that's an off ramp.

There are many different ways this can be done. Is it easy? No, there's all kinds of problems. But at least they can't steal your money. I mean, literally, you cannot steal Bitcoin if, if you know what you're doing and you own it yourself. So then why are you concerned about the great reset and everything else? with them shutting all of the services down, if you believe that Bitcoin can't be stopped, because if it wasn't illegal or whatever, they weren't trying to stop it, I'd be like, fine, let all that stuff burn down.

I don't want to use any of that stuff. Well, that's what we're building now. So my job in the overall game is to ensure communication stay open. Literally, we're protecting free speech by making podcasting uncancelable. That's my job. and to make sure that people can get paid and to show them how to do it. You know, there's a whole bunch.

You can't, you can't just expect people to start sending you money if you don't, if you don't know how to ask. Strangely enough, my wife is a semi-retired communications officer, you know, Ronald McDonald's charities, et cetera. And she said the number one reason people don't give money to a charity is they weren't asked. Yeah. Right?

Right. So there now, there's the beef initiative, which is started here in Texas by my buddy Texas Slim. He kind of came out of semi-retirement, it's my age. And he is now going to ranchers, and he's getting them hooked up through Bitcoin payment systems. And, but really explaining and helping people understand food intelligence. What are you putting in your mouth? Where is it coming from?

Because the food processors of which there's like four, dude, they're going bugs. They're going bugs. They're going synthetic. They're going genetically engineered bugs. They want you to become a bug. And they admit it. It's right there. It's right there.

They admitted. It's crazy. It's cheaper to do. It's going to be much better for you. And you see all these things creeping up. You see them creeping up. And now I'm hearing in the Ukraine news, climate change news. It's coming.

They would be crazy not to trigger it now. But when they do, there will be hopefully enough people who have built up enough networks to be able to exchange goods and conduct capitalist commerce amongst themselves. because we're all kind of switched on. Believe me, you will not be able to buy beef directly from your rancher through the central processing money system. They're not going to let you do that. They're going to stop you. They're going to say, oh, your digital dollars are great, but you can only buy your beef here.

But how is the farmer going to control his land? Because of global warming, he'll be taxed out of business or, you know, go to jail. whatever it is. I mean, they, they, to complete this, they have to impoverish all of us. Happening as we speak. Happening as we speak.

They have to make sure that we don't own anything at all. Happening as we speak. Right. So we're renting from them. If you have land, the chance of you keeping that land, especially if you are running beef. Well, okay.

So here's where my, generation screwed up. In the 80s and 90s, man, I was rocking it. We were doing fantastic stuff, having a great time. I didn't look at who was the land commissioner or who is on the city council, who's on the school board. Like, that's obviously a loser who couldn't get a better gig. Right. So that's exactly what we did to our children. And so now it's like, okay, I'm sorry. And it's the mothers of America and the world. Mama bear is coming out saying, now we're going to pay attention. Who are you? So, you know, that's, we have to, all politics is really local. I mean, that's really. I would like to see that happen with the zoning commissions.

With all of this, the railroad, all these guys have to be. Yeah. All of it. I mean, it's. And that's the stuff, you look at the ballot, you're like, yeah, whatever. Land commission. I didn't take a look. So I go out, you know, I have a, I just had a generator, house generator installed, propane, but I'm already prepared with a gasifier. I'm familiar with a gasifier. It creates fuel from wood. So you throw wood into a feeder and it powers the generator. Excellent. This is from the Depression back in 1920s.

There were actual pickup trucks with a gasifier with a wood-burning stove behind. I remember those. Yeah. So that actually works. And I ask these guys. And all you have to do in the hill country is say, hey, what do you think about? And it was beautiful. And they were telling me like, oh, you want this guy for.

land commissioner because he and we've met him and so people are getting into it they're looking into stuff now and we have in america certainly i can't speak for the rest of the world we have a constitution you know 90% of the people don't even know that it's that the constitution and the bill of rights it kind of tells the government what they can't do you know people think they've been given these rights so that all this education has to happen again glenn you're doing that i'm doing it um but it's all food is the is a really important one because we've lost totally total sight of what we're eating. It's really sad.

When you read the World Economic Forum plan for food, did you not think Holodomor? Holodomor? Holodomor? Holodomor happened in Ukraine, 1930s, where Stalin was like, you know what, these Ukrainians, they just pissing me off.

Oh, and he closed the bread basket. Yeah, come in, take all of the food and shoot anybody who's reaching for a piece of weed or an apple. Killed 7 million people in less than a year. Well, this is... Yeah, and I look at that and I just think, this happens in socialism in communist countries over and over again.

Kill the farmers. And then you people from the city, you go farm. They don't know what their ass from their elbow. Yeah. Okay. And I'm looking at a total redesign of the entire system from seed to plate by 2030. I love that you said seed because that's what's the source of the seed.

That's the key. What is the seed that's feeding the grass, that grows into the grass that feeds the cattle? You got to keep all of that pure because we're on a collision course. Why does America, why did America have more deaths and illness from whatever COVID-19 was? Because we're an unhealthy population. We've been given... I grew up in the Netherlands. You know, I moved there when I was right after the radio,

my transistor radio, seven years old. And it was a socialist country. At the time, 90% income tax and it's changed throughout the years. But the one thing they did, and I always appreciated, is you went to the butcher. There was a butcher. You went to the grocer.

You went to, you know, you had people for... The baker. It was all separate, and it was very natural. And I grew up on meat, potatoes, and a vegetable. and that's what the Dutch grew up on. And, you know, they're pretty tall, healthy-looking people. That in America has been gone for decades and decades. And we just don't know it.

And it's like someone's trying to convince me about, you know, the problem is we need animal protein to grow. That is what our bodies need. And, you know, I'm not a doctor or anything. I say, well, I mean, how do I know that this is really the best way, the best thing to eat. And he says, well, let me show you my family. This is six generations of Texans. What do you see? They look pretty good, don't they?

They look pretty healthy. Yeah, they're they're wiry, you know, but this is not a great place, Texas, to grow vegetables, but they did what they could. And it's beef protein. And now look at America now. And even in the 70s, coming back from Europe on vacation, going to Disneyland, it was unbelievable. The obesity was, it was shocking.

Yeah. shocking. And you don't, and we just got admitted. And instead of don't body shame, let's have honest conversations. Yeah. You know, I do a podcast with Mo Fax, which is really a black American man and a white American man sitting down and talking it out. And we have been so sci-opt by the media and government because I'll say, wait a minute, I didn't do something in a particular situation because I thought it might have triggered

someone like you. when he says, and I didn't do something in that same situation because I thought it might trigger you. And guess what? None of that would have triggered us in any case whatsoever, but we didn't communicate. We didn't communicate. And it happens all the time. And, you know, the media is our problem, which is why I'm grateful for what you do. I'm grateful for anybody who does anything outside of the traditional norm.

It has been captured. I've been a part of mainstream media. It's all a lie. It's all fake. It's all super, super fake. I participated in fake stuff. I was at CNN and I thought, oh, yeah, this is really bad. Fox will be better.

No. No, it's the same. It's the same. And it's like dead fish eyes. You know what I mean? It's just like there's nothing going up here. There's nothing. There's no intellectual curiosity, no honesty.

You know when this happened, when this really changed. So we found out in the late 60s that, oh my goodness, the CIA is handing off news reports to CBS. Yes. And we had the Church Commission. Like, hey, we can't be doing this. This has to stop. Enter the Smith-Munt Act.

If you ever heard of Smith-Mond. No. Smith-Munt Act, it was from the 70, specifically said... You're the only guess that I've written stuff down. This is like the third time I've written stuff down. So the Smith-Munt Act said the Broadcast Board of Governors, but really the American government may not commit propaganda on its own people. So the broadcast board of governors does voice of America, voice of Europe, it's propaganda.

You know, it's like the RT, the American version of RT. And as the Internet came in in the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, they slipped in a little thing, the repeal of Smith-Munt, because, listen, we're doing propaganda online right now. And, you know, obviously Americans might see that. It's not intended for them. They might see that. I remember this discussion. So we have to repeal that. And so now when you see Hillary Clinton coming out and saying, we need our techno experts, we need them to be pushing the truth into all these countries.

What she's saying is push more truth into America. And that's what we're getting. And that's what I'm seeing, Glenn. I'm not seeing the actual video of what they're saying. I love television, right? It's not what they're showing is what they're not showing. Yes. So when they say, look at this map.

And there were five of these maps online. Really like, here's a bomb fell. This is what's going on here. troop movements, tanks, and it's just little red dots on a Google map. I'm like, that's great, but can you show me that in a satellite picture? Because George Clooney can watch the troop movements in Somalia with its own private surveillance satellite. Why aren't you showing it to me now?

What we get is there's a 40-mile convoy of tanks, but I'm seeing this piece. Yeah. And it's from a commercial, it's not from a government satellite or anything. So I question, just like I question WMD, Saddam Hussein. So how does a society survive when you are questioning everything? Because just last week I had this very same thing. I was watching it and like, oh, I know I don't believe Putin. Oh, they're all lying.

Yeah. Everyone's lying. But I don't believe us. I don't believe any news source here. I don't believe our president. I don't believe Congress. I don't believe anybody. How does a society survive that?

I think by talking. And this is the only thing we have. You know, we can still talk. Now, you can't do it on YouTube all the time. You can't be completely honest, but we have created places to talk. We need to continue talking. And this is what I see.

And I know you've had the same, that you get emails, I'm sure, every day, and you have for the last two years. Glenn, thank you so much for doing what you do because you made me feel like I wasn't crazy. Yeah. I really, really appreciate it. Every podcaster got this.

10, 20, 1,000, 10,000 of these messages. So, and then when we have these tribal, I have connected no agenda tribe, you've got, you know, the blaze, your radio show tribe, and these two intersect. Now we've just grown. And now more people may see what you have to say or what I have to say. This is, we have to really turn off television, like really turn it off. It's useless. I don't turn it up. The only reason I watch it is to see what is the message they're trying to give us. And we have to be very careful online because we have literally thousands of people in the State Department putting out propaganda that is intended to influence us.

They're not influencing anyone in Russia. They've got their own issues out there. This is to influence us, to tell us what's going on. And then, you know, even in my analysis of the situation, I get flack from people who are saying, I can't believe you don't understand the humanitarian aspect of this. No, I do. I do. But there's humanitarian issues all over.

the world. We bombed Somalia. I'm sorry. Was that front of the news? We killed some people over there. Yemen. You know, we're doing a lot of the operations. We've got advisors. And so what's happening now, if you go back to 2014 and see what happened in Ukraine, I know it sounds like a really cute place and oh my God, bad ass Putin is coming in. It's known internationally for massive weapon smuggling, human trafficking, prostitution, money laundering. My goodness, the Biden crime family made out like bandits, like bandits. And so did Obama, so did Hillary, all of that stuff. So what are we burning over there? Are we burning all the evidence? Are we, you know, what is going on? There's a lot of problems with Ukraine. Now, that doesn't mean I don't

have compassion for the people that live there, but John McCain literally was standing with the Azov Nazi battalion, like, these are my buddies. And we know what happened at Maidan. When the same people, Victoria Newland, were selecting the government. Correct. It's on tape. It's our phone call. Selecting. No, Yachts is the guy. We're going to make him president. That got zero

coverage when that happened. Like, oh, she said F to EU. Yeah, that wasn't the problem with what she was saying. So these are the same people back again for whatever reason. It's not just evil Putin. The one thing I don't buy into, and that'll hopefully be in your beautiful museum

one day, is the original right of Vladimir Putin. I don't think he's actually said in some 5,000 word essay, oh my God, my dream is to bring back the Soviet Empire. I don't think that's what he said. In fact, the quote I read was those who do not mourn the passing of the Soviet Union are heartless. Those who want to resurrect it are mindless. And this attack on Russia, they're not even allowed to compete in the Olympics as Russia. Right. Come on, man. Right. Why? What is this? Is that big? I know lots of Russians.

I know lots. I've been to, I was in Moscow in 1989. They're nice people. You know, Americans are nice people. This is the elites doing this to us. I agree. Realize. Stop, stop, stop. Go talk to a Russian American. So have you, have you read any Alexander Dugan? No. Let me recommend you read the fourth political theory.

He, in fact, just wrote another one that's just out, and it's about the Great Reset versus something else. And he is somebody who's extraordinarily dangerous. But he's using the language that, you know, Europe is so interesting because it doesn't have really that libertarian line. Nothing in the middle. Yeah. Well, no. Yeah. I mean, it's big government.

There's no sense of freedom in that regard. Correct. It's big government left, big government, right. Just depends on how far out you go. where here it's all big government on one side and then libertarian in chaos on the other. And he is, he is appealing to the big government people. And he's using religion, the homeland, our families, our children. He's using, and you'll read probably, I don't know, half the book.

And you'll go, I agree with half of this. That's always the tricky part. Right. The other half is insanity. He's the guy who was behind the Crimea invasion, and Putin strangely was using a lot of his language when he was talking about the Russian Empire and bringing that all back. But I just don't think that's, I just don't know what's going on other than a game that we're not in on. So here's the part I think that we need to leave people with, which is excellently described in your book, is ESG. And the reason why this is important is because we have so much more power than we realize. So first of all, make sure you educate yourself and get involved in the local elections.

You know, today is Election Day in Texas. So make sure that you find out who was really on your state. And you can go talk to them. You know, you can talk to these people. And you have to. Or spend some time. Don't make the mistake my generation. made with our kids. The second one is so environmental social governance

which which you've explained many many times is the source of corporations going woke and going green and this is led by the G fans and the and the bankers. When you look at Black Rock specifically, which this should be an illegal operation. The whole thing is and and the think it's evil think I see you think. it truly, it does embody some evil because they have so much control over all corporations. Now, the great news is most of that is retirement funds that's being used. You can take your 401K, which I guarantee is going to go to crap if you just leave it. And you can put that in a different type of IRA, which could actually be invested in Bitcoin or something else.

Because they are pulling the plug on everything. So if we don't put our money into these companies, I mean, I'm out of Chase Bank. Sorry, bye. I'm at the community bank in Guadalu. You know, you have to stop funding them. Stop funding them. I mean, it's obviously not easy to stop using credit cards, but you can go to a credit union. They're very great in the United States.

Credit unions are fantastic. Very low fees, very helpful and nice people in general because they're not in there for profit. Take your money out of all of these institutions. Bleed them dry. Don't let them do it. You know, lobby your corporation. Hey, you know, I don't really like our money being in this 401k over here. Can we look at some alternatives? And there's lots of alternatives. We have to start educating ourselves. Stop buying the, stop buying the crap. Stop buying crap. It's easy. Kids, stop buying crap. That's it. I mean, it's our own thing to solve. We are so much more powerful. as a people, as a global people.

They wouldn't be putting all this energy into stifling us. If it was easy and it was a done deal. And they weren't afraid of us. They're terrified. And look at who they're afraid of. Look at us. I know. I know. That's what I mean.

We're not Rambo. No. They're afraid for this, man. They're afraid for this and this. That's what they're afraid of. I can't let you go without. I don't want to go. Let's keep going.

Talk to me a little bit about Fink. Larry Fink? Uh-huh. Well, I just, I called him out personally because I believe we need to mock the elites. I have no, no, I mean, I have certain tools in my tool set. Mocking memes is very, very powerful. I mean, it's just as powerful as the spells they're casting on us. So he happens to be the CEO or the chairman of BlackRock.

So he's an easy target. Black Rock is the problem. Black Rock, and this happened during the Trump administration, is doing all of the bond buying and selling on behalf of the U.S. government. So a commercial. And the Fed. Commercial banking. Well, I mean, the Fed is commercial, too. I know, but they're handling all the money from all of the central banks, central bank of Europe and the Fed and everything else.

And, I mean, you look at the corruption, like Powell and three other people at the federal. reserve at the moment that they knew that the United States was going to buy certain bonds and certain assets to help solve the financial problem. They were riding along on it. They were investing, as was half of Congress in the Senate. These are corrupt people. And so it's so I look at Fink. I'm like, you got a good head to make fun of. You're creepy. And I do not like what you represent. And if we really get to uncover everything that's in Black Rock and go down to all the NBA team ownerships and all,

and then you, you know what you wind up pretty soon? Epstein. Another thing that is a little weird how that all went down. I think a little more than a little weird. Yeah.

And, you know, again, a whole other podcast, you'd go on forever about that. But it's breaking apart. They see it. I think this,

this was not the plan. In my mind, I think Hillary was supposed to be president. Yeah. And this was all supposed to happen on the schedule, which may have, it may have been, I think what happened is Trump screwed everything up. Oh, yeah. They said, we got to do it now. It was maybe supposed to happen at this point in time.

Now, here's a theory that I have, I don't know if it's true or not, because Trump is so proud of the vaccines. I'm not vaccinated. I have no plan on taking that. Like I did my investigation. I'm like, no, no, no. And, you know, someone else can go first. I don't know. Wait.

if the plan had gone, and again, it's to create a great reset, if the plan had gone along and Hillary Clinton was president, we probably would have had an event like a COVID-19, but we would have been locked down for three years because there would have been no vaccine. Because vaccines go in, you know, it takes long, long, long time. Operation Warp Speed, I think is possible that that was to thwart that. Okay, I don't know what this vaccine is.

does, it may hurt a lot of people, but it will save the world from total meltdown and global dominance. It's a theory. I don't know if it's true because nothing makes sense. It doesn't make sense that the vaccine came that quickly. It may note, well, it does make sense if you know that every single institution has been captured. Finance, governance, pharma, medicine. I mean, you and I talk to doctors and nurses. They're like this. I can't do anything. I can't fix my patient. I have to follow the protocol.

I know. Even though it might be killing some. I know. And how did the left, which has always been against Big Pharma, all of a sudden protect them? All of a sudden, everybody is like, no, they said we need another vaccine. You're like, are you, what?

We need yet another booster. Well, these are spells that are being cast upon people. People are very... You've said that a couple of times. What do you mean by that? Well, a spell, I learned this from Mo. Mo is, he comes from a family in North Carolina, his mom is a pastor, and I talk with him about a lot of things. And he says, no, no, these are spells. You understand. These are just like witches spells. And you look up the definition of spell is words. It's basically just words, spelling, spell.

And, but he said, pay attention because the things that people say cast spell on people. The words really do matter. And the way we're being indoctrinated and hammered and it's not just cable news or network news, it's online. The way, I mean, come on, look at, what are they afraid of? Why can't something be on YouTube? Why can't you say something on Twitter? It's been gamified to, ha ha ha ha, I've gotten rid of him. Or, ooh, we got through the didn't deep platform.

So now people aren't even talking about what they're talking about. It's just whether I get kicked off or not. This is all magic, black magic. I mean, it sounds kind of whoo. No, no, no. But this is true. Go back and look at what people have said throughout the years and how those things have influenced large groups of people

and started and also finished. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall. That was a spell. It wasn't just a political statement. It was part of a spell. So we're getting a lot of that. And you know, you know, know the story behind that where the state department said don't say that i think i heard you talking about

this did you just they said don't don't say that you can't say that right took it out of his speech he just went up when it did it anyway and i think it's because they knew that had power yeah yeah yeah i mean words just have power if said in the right way in the right place and when it comes from a place of authority so you know why in the millogram experiments are are people shocking other human beings and thinking it's okay because a spell was cast on that moment. It's just easier to say. It's a spell.

It's witchcraft. It is. It's not that hard. Witchcraft is, you know, you can buy books and you'll see that it kind of works. NLP, is that any different?

You're a big NLP guy, neurolinguistic programming. I've heard you talk about that in the past. Is that any different? I mean, Trump's a big NLP guy. He cast spells too, but which spell is being cast? You know,

like fake news. was one of the best ones. That's a great spell. Unfortunately, it worked both ways. Yeah. So it kind of lost some of its power. So I find it important that we keep speaking to each other, but also be very wary of what we're being told and what's being said.

How much of how you think was influenced by your uncle? It was a CIA. Yeah. So this really started to have. happened for me. I was in in Europe and they were just putting together the European, well, the European Union is a long project and it comes from many phases. But I was living there at the time and it was, here's what the media sold to the people. We'll all have the same money. It's great. No passports. It's great. Sounds great. We're all going to be brothers and sisters. And I went

looking at the Lisbon Treaty, which was, so the Lisbon Treaty, the Dutch voted against it, the French voted against it. And then the European Union came back and said, or the, you know, the project, you voted wrong. Let's do another referendum. Do you remember that? They had to vote again. And then the Irish. And then we're doing another referendum. I mean, how stupid are we? And this is 2007 around that time. And so I was reading through the protocols. Because, you know, we had the internet. So I'm like, oh, let me read this document. It's pretty easy to read. And in the protocols, which is like a side document, it says, if you are running away, from law enforcement and they shoot you in the back, it's legal, legal kill. If you have a

communicable disease, you can be arrested and thrown in jail, kind of interesting in light of COVID, which was universally applied. My daughter lives in Rotterdam. They had a curfew from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m., which had not happened since the Germans occupied the Netherlands in World War II. This triggered some people big. I bet it did. And it's triggering in general. The virus is nocturnal. It only comes out of it now. Bye. So. I love how we can,

how we can sit down in a restaurant and eat, but if I'm sitting on a plane, I still, still have to wear that mask. Now, where was I going with this, Glenn? Because I, you were talking about the protocols.

Oh, the protocol. So right there, I'm like, okay. And this is where I start, and that Ron Paul's book and the Fed came out. There was a lot of 9-11 stuff to look at, which as a,

I have a pilot's license for, fixed wing and rotary and I joined the pilots for 9-11 truth.com because you know that's just physics and stuff that is not properly explained and I understand that anything I understand I'm interested in. So and to be honest even Alex Jones I mean I heard all kinds of

different messages and so I started to pay attention and look at things and then a book came out called Legacy of Ashes which was written by Tim Wiener Winer the New York Times. It was about the CIA. and I'm reading this book and my Uncle Don, Don Gregg, is in this book a lot and not in the great light, a lot of different things. And I called him up and said, Don, is this true? He says, eh, pretty much how I remember it. And that's when, and then, you know, now, okay, so there's a lot

going on here. And I built a rapport with him and there was one time, he's now 94, his dear wife, Meg, she's in the hospital, right, palliative care, so we're all kind of, it's a very sad time. Although, getting to 94, and she ran the Russia desk at CIA. So very beautiful. He was ambassador to Korea, I mean, all kinds, and just a beautiful, beautiful man.

And even though I know he was involved in a lot of stuff that was not good, I know that it was all from a patriotic heart. And my whole family is that way, military intelligence. And I really got to ask him, And he said, you ask me, I will tell you everything. So I can't tell you everything that he said.

But the most important one is he said, yeah, military industrial complex. He says, it's all about that. It's all about war and money. General Smedley Butler, war is a racket. I think that one of the last fully brave and true address the president has ever given has been Eisenhower. Probably. Yeah. I mean, you look back, everybody goes, oh, military, industrial,

complex. No, no, no. Read on. It was the academic military industry. And that's kind of been taken out of history. Right. The universities, big business, government. Dude, we know a lot of shit. I'm sorry. We know a lot of stuff, don't we? You'd say whatever you want. We know a lot of the stuff. Yeah. So, and from that, now I understand how things work. So whenever you read in the New York Times, According to the London Times, boom, stop right there. That's a intelligence messaging because, or even better, according to the Uganda Times, this is what's happening. So the New York Times gets to print something as true because the Uganda Times said it must be true. But it's not.

It's intelligence influences all around the world and they are reporters. This never went away, Glenn. They are reporters. They are sources for reporters. How many times have we heard in the past seven years according to sources? According to people familiar with the president's thinking, oh, really? Yeah. Come on.

That's insulting. And what's crazy is all of these sources that talked about Ukraine, the president, Russia. Yes. If I were the one that had gone on the air and said, no, no, no, this is a credible source. Trust me. I'd be pissed. Notice nobody's pissed. No.

They all just, they're all like, okay. But a lot of people have also checked out, you know, and it's much easier to go back into the default mode of Good Morning America and, you know, People Magazine and just say, okay, Russia's, Putin's a bad guy. He's a horrible guy. We just have to get rid of him and then click it off and go on, you know, this is just the continuation of the trauma of COVID. And I'm sorry to say, they're going to keep going.

It's going to keep, there's going to be one thing after a. another and it wears people down and you know and weird things are happening so for me the comfort is they're trying to destroy it they truly are it's the great reset you can go read now i 100% believe that there are ads that say you will own nothing and you will be happy i think a lot of people will agree with that yeah they will be like okay i don't own anything but i get my universal basic income. I can gig on the side. I'm kind of happy. Yeah, this will be, I feel okay with this. Now, historically speaking, and, you know, from our, you know, exhaustive research throughout the years, we know it doesn't really turn out that well. There's no example of that working

out very well. But is there an example of a fiat-based empire lasting as long as ours has either? So a great reset is coming. How that plays out depends on us. And, I'm hopeful that we'll have enough of us that we can build the parallel networks until this other stuff falls apart. We're building school systems outside of the school system. We're building medicine systems outside. We're building all these things. Banks, Bitcoin style. You are your own bank.

When you have Bitcoin, and I know that I can pay my septic guy, my rancher, and at least three restaurants, I can pay with Bitcoin. And we're doing that. We're doing it because we need to stop using their system. Don't fund their system. Get off of it as much as possible. It's corrupt.

You don't own your money. They'll take it away in a heartbeat. They will block you. They will do anything they need to to make you come to heal. And just because it's a podcaster, it doesn't mean it's not real. And this has happened. Like Alex Jones, they really came after him.

after his card processors. I mean, how is this America? Yeah, I know. I know. So, there you go. Will you come back? I would love to, Glenn. I'd love to talk to you about much more than just this,

because you are well-read. Well, but you're a great partner to talk to. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Not many people. Well, again, when I saw your book, I'm like, oh, okay. You know. I felt the same thing.

When we started talking, I'm like, How is this not? I mean, it's nice to not feel alone. Exactly. You know, and it's also, I don't know if you've noticed this, I like people when they stick to the facts and they don't squirrel off. These things are, there's no reason to go to conspiracy theories. This is bad enough.

It's right there. Yeah, it's bad enough. I mean, they're advertising it. They're advertising how it's going to work. I know. Klaus Schwab is literally saying, we have penetrated all of the cabinets worldwide. This is here. We have him. We have him. It's all very good. That's crazy. And no one's... That's an eye.

I know. I know. And what's his name, Gergen, who was in one of the Bush White House? He's the guy doing the interview. He's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Good for you. Well done. It's great to talk to you. Thank you. My pleasure. Thanks for inviting me. Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people. Thank you.