The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 175 | Is THIS the Most DANGEROUS Man in Comedy? | Dave Landau | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: March 4, 2023

In a time of safe spaces and trigger warnings, comedian Dave Landau is fighting back with dangerous amounts of laughter. Dave is about as offensive as it gets, and nothing is off-limits. Glenn aptly d...escribes him as a “connoisseur of dark comedy,” but there’s a method to his madness. In this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast," Dave gives us a behind-the-scenes look at his unique approach to comedy, including the stories behind some of the jokes in his latest special, “A Prison 10.” Glenn and Dave also discuss some of his favorite comedians, his struggles with addiction, the ups and downs of sarcasm, and the future of comedy in this woke world. But amid all the outrage, Dave and Glenn are hopeful that we are witnessing a comedy renaissance — and it’s arriving at the perfect time. As Dave puts it: “The currency of today is to be offended.”   SPONSORS: When you buy Grip6 Socks, you’re supporting the American ranchers who raise specialty-bred sheep that produce modern wool. Put your trust and hard-earned money in a company that does it right, making American-made products with American labor, by going to https://grip6.com/BECK    The Jase Case from Jase Medical is a great way to keep yourself prepared for the worst. It's a pack of five different courses of antibiotics that you can use to treat a long list of bacterial infections. Go to https://JaseMedical.com and use offer code “BECK” at checkout to get $10 off your order.   If you're one of the millions of Americans who suffer every day from pain, there is hope, and it comes in the form of Relief Factor. If you want a drug-free and natural way to get your life back, go to https://relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the $19.95 three-week quick start. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Really since the 1970s, you were a comedian that made it if you were on Saturday Night Live. Today's guest is no exception. These days, however, when he watches SNL, he doesn't recognize the show. Nobody recognizes the show. And he wouldn't make the roster because he's actually funny. He is extraordinarily irreverent, to say the least. The phrase comedian's comedian gets overused, you know, Bill Hicks is a comedian's comedian.
Starting point is 00:00:33 It usually means that the comedian is too edgy or subversive for non-comedians to understand. I'm not a comedian, but I understand him and he is still comedian's comedian. He is, it's brilliant writing. Unbelievably offensive, but brilliant. His latest special, a prison 10, is all the proof that you need on that. This man does not care about any lines. His comedy is so dark that you're kind of like, well, the apocalypse isn't so bad.
Starting point is 00:01:10 The world is ending and there's nothing funny about it. Well, until you watch a special and that's a little funny. There's no telling how his jokes are going to end, you know, slip on a banana peel and then end not on the street, but in the sewer. He is a very different thinker and very funny comedian. If you're a fan of Stephen Crowder, you'll find this nice to reminisce with an old friend.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You will recognize him. Please welcome Dave Landau. Before we get into the comedy stuff, let me just tell you that with everything that's going on in the world, our relationship with China is not getting better. And because of that, we're going to have some shortages. According to a University of Minnesota study,
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Starting point is 00:03:38 But the good, wholesome, Trying to be better. Part of me hates me for it. You know, I'm so conflicted. Because you are, which my humor has always been very dark. You are the darkest cavern I've ever experienced.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Thank you. Your, your comedy is so dark. You said, you were talking about, you know, end of the world and you brought up your son, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Do you remember? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Could you just? Yeah. express this. Yeah, where he just says, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:13 dad, you know what I want to be when I grow up? And I said, it doesn't matter. You know, just explaining to him how the world's going to end. It's going to end. It just doesn't,
Starting point is 00:04:24 yeah. Good night. It just doesn't matter. Yeah, he's seven. Yeah. He's like, cease the day. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So funny. Yeah. And then, you know, what I, what the good part of me hates is that I just love all of your humor. And you are,
Starting point is 00:04:43 are offensive in every possible way. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't know why you do. No, but it is. You know it is. Yeah, of course. Because that's, I mean, that's, is that what you're striving for?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Or you know, no. That's the odd part. Like I never want to look at, because it's not necessarily that it's dirty. It's more that. It's filthy. Yeah. Graphically.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's, no, it's honest. Yes. And that's the way that. I look at it is a lot of times honesty is going to be that way. So I don't necessarily go to be offensive. I just go for the joke. But in today's world,
Starting point is 00:05:23 I mean, it is, there wasn't one. Sometimes, sometimes the way you craft jokes, it's like, oh, that's going to piss off people. Oh, here's another group of people. That's going to piss off. All in the same joke, you'll have
Starting point is 00:05:39 like three levels of people that are just want to set you on fire. Yes. What I like to do is I like to, like the end of the joke with the tag. Yes. I like to find eight more things that are more offensive that make the beginning offensive part less offensive. And that's what I enjoy is watching a crowd. Because you get an honest break though from people. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Because if they're cracking at something like that, you know that there's this, there's this honest part of them that actually enjoys that. Right. Because there's so much we have to hide now in our society and like what we think's funny. So bad. Yeah. Why not just say it? Why not just have fun? Because I, even when I...
Starting point is 00:06:15 But it's not. I mean, the things you say are true, but some of the things are, uh, are really, uh, offensive. And it's not as true as it is. I want to be able to laugh at that. Yes. You know, it's a, it's clearly, at least I hope some of them are jokes, but it's clearly a joke. Um, but you, you give us permission to laugh at. And nobody is doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:45 At least, I mean, Chappelle does it, but I think you're a level down from LaChate. I mean, into the dark hole. Yeah. You're a level down. You are more dangerous with your comedy than I think anybody else out there. Thank you so much. Honestly, and I worked with Chappelle a few times when I started. And he's one of my heroes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, yeah. And this was when he was like, I opened for him for 7,000 people where it was, you know, People were just going crazy, but they were all heckling. It was at a time when he was supposedly going insane. And then when he, you know, when... I remember those days. Yeah. And then he won't. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And then when he came back, it was amazing. And it was, and now he... What was the difference when he left? Because I remember this. He didn't he sign to do a show? And everybody thought he was crazy because he left behind all that money and possible stardom. And I remember thinking he is either crazy or I really like him because he knows the
Starting point is 00:07:43 price of his soul and he just sold out. Yeah, he always said, he said his mom told him she made 30 grand years a teacher. He said, if I can make that as a comic, I'm happy. Everything else is icing on the cake. So when they offered him more money and more money to do things that he didn't agree with and censor him, which is part of his contract to not do, he walked. And then when he came back, he did exactly what he wanted to do. And now he's, oddly enough, a white supremacist and people attack him and try to stab him on stage. And it's like he's only arguably one of the top five greatest comedians ever. Yeah, a bold time.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, it's amazing. So he's such a hero to me, you know. And with the darkness, that's just my life. That's who I am. So if I wasn't talking about something that is dark or I take a nugget of truth that my wife and I, or my son and I, when we're sitting at our house pre-COVID is one of the jokes. And he wants, I have to teach him about death because I, I take him to meet my parents at the cemetery.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And, you know, one of the lines is they still vote. And, you know, he gets in the cemetery. And then he's like, oh, you get him a goldfish. That's how they learn about death. You flush them. So instead I get him a cat. Oh, my gosh. You know, and I'm like, you completely clogged up our toilet.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You know, you know, I have to tell you, it's just so perfectly crafted. Thank you. And for somebody who is, I think, a connoisseur of dark. comedy. There's just nobody better at it than you. That means the world. Seriously. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. So, do you know who Kurt Garon is?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I don't. Okay, you should. Okay. He was the biggest, most powerful star in the 1930s. And he would go to, he was a movie star, but he was also a comedian. and he was kind of like Tom Hanks of his day, you know, or Will Pharaoh. Everybody loved him. And he went into the cabarets and he started doing Nazi jokes from like 1928 to 1933. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:57 He ended up a little edgy. Yeah, he ended up in a concentration camp and was killed. It was a horrible, horrible, horrible. story. If things go poorly, if we don't turn around, good news, that could be you. I know, I'm excited for it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm excited for the comedian camps. Right. Are we getting further away from that? I don't mean that literally, but I mean, maybe. We're going, maybe. But there was
Starting point is 00:10:34 no one. There was, I kept saying, Where's Lenny Bruce? Is there not one Lenny Bruce that is willing to stand up to this? No one, it seemed. And now there is, it's a renaissance. Yes. When you have people, you know, they've been on the show, you have Jim Brewer,
Starting point is 00:10:57 you have people that are willing to step up. And I think it's not even so much to make a stand as much as it is talk about the things that are going on. And even when I talk about, for example, trans, I do it from a point of, I talk about me. Like, if I was to compete as a woman, it would make no difference whatsoever. And I'm able to point that out where I just talk about, you know, I'm at the end of the swimming pool. My balls are hanging out. They're like, who's this fat girl? I think she has emphysema.
Starting point is 00:11:27 No sports skills whatsoever. You know, and there's a way to point out the lunacy of everything that's happening, you know, without necessarily being antagonistic in the sense of, You have to be offended, I think, in certain ways because you're choosing to be. You're choosing to be a part of something that is brainwashed to be offensive. The currency of today is to be offended. The currency today is to be a victim. It makes no sense to me at all. It goes against what I think human nature is.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So eventually, I think, yeah, we're going to have to, either comics are going to have to step up, start growing some balls, and go back to being comics that are actually doing, what they're supposed to do, which is genuinely making people laugh with their own beliefs and their own jokes. And also, you know, artists, but I think comedians more so, are usually the ones that bring us into revolution, and they're the ones who bring us out of the dark side because of that, you know what I mean, because they poke at our conscience.
Starting point is 00:12:33 George Carlin was brilliant at that. 100% right out of Vietnam, too. Right. And he made you think you'd laugh your ass off, but you'd go, maybe he's right on that. Maybe I should reconcern. You know, he had a message to him. I hate messages. But he did it well. He did it really well. And there, we went for a while where there was no one willing to stick their neck out. Yet for a long time. Well, and Carlin died in 08. And some of the stuff he said, you could do on stage right now and it would be just as important.
Starting point is 00:13:12 That's what's so crazy about his last special. And with Carlin, it wasn't so much about a message. He just wasn't pandering to anybody. So he was saying, this is what's wrong with everybody. This is what's wrong with all humanity.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And this is the problem. And he went out and he said it first. It's why Pryor is so well liked because he brought attention to a group of people that weren't really being, you know, shined on in any mainstream light other than Cosby, who was very, very likable up until some incident.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Something happened. I watched that with my kids when they were younger, and I felt so bad. I kept watching it and going, when do I tell him when I found out. My wife was pregnant. I bought the, right and by it, I used my dad's copy of fatherhood that he had had,
Starting point is 00:14:00 and I read it on the plane, and then three days later I was like, oh, that's, that's good. Maybe I shouldn't take all the advice. I'll never forget. My kids, they'd watch Cosby, you know, for 10 years. We watched the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And, you know, episode two, I'd say to my wife, I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Because at some point, we have to tell them who he is. And I remember after the whole of the episodes, I'm like, okay, this is a good way and a good time to talk about, you may not, you may like. someone's work right yeah but the person and they were like he did what yeah he he raped uh bill cosby yeah who but serial rape for like 30 years yeah just that was it i mean it wasn't
Starting point is 00:14:54 it wasn't it wasn't as well it was most of his career uh he's in jail right well not now oh he was in there for a while No, they did take away his fake college degrees, though. That taught him. That's what I loved about it, where they're like, we're taking your fake diplomas. Oh, good. That's going to learn him. Yeah, it's hard because you watch himself and you go,
Starting point is 00:15:20 it's arguably no matter what you say, one of the greatest specials ever put on tape. I mean, it just is. But you wonder, is this a guy who's such a sociopath? He nailed being a comic that's perfect. at being this family friendly. No one would suspect. Yeah, there was no edge necessarily.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It wasn't that it was no edge because it was good, but there was just this perfect like I'm catering to human beings in every way possible. And no one's ever done that the way. Nobody has ever been as likable as a comic as Bill Cosby, in my opinion. So if you go by that, how many people have Jim Gaffigan raped? I mean, oh. Because he kind of has, he has edge, but he's the same guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Everybody kind of likes Jim Gavitt. Everybody loves him. Right. He's got a real problem with food. Yeah, that'd be weird if that came out. Thank God he has like 50 kids I heard. So maybe that's, his wife, he's getting it at home. Yeah, his wife's like, listen.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You could be Cosby quickly. Let's just. Yeah, he's just putting on a mask and trying to get out to the BTK van and she's like, look. Look, Air Canada F.Cannada Fereld Super, an offer for
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Starting point is 00:17:07 And then I realized, no, this is what I do. So you work hard for your money. I am just faking it. Anyway, I know even though I don't really earn my money, I have taken my hard-earned money and I use it
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Starting point is 00:19:04 Uh There's so many Eddie Murphy What happened to him? I think I think what happened Eddie Murphy was just He was attacked
Starting point is 00:19:14 So ruthlessly by the press That you have to look at a guy Who was so unbelievably talented Made some bombs And they couldn't stand That he didn't live up to His own hype Like he was a nice
Starting point is 00:19:28 19 year old kid, 20 year old kid when he did delirious. People forget that. So they were insanely unforgiving to him whenever he made something that wasn't good. So, which ended up being a lot of things, but he still made some really good movies. I made great movies. And it was really funny. Yeah. And I remember when he got nominated for the Oscar for Dreamgirls.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And they said it was when he looked at the camera before he was about to shoot up, the way that he looked at the camera. And he, during an interview and he's like, you know I was in a movie where I played nine people? You know, like he still had it where it's like, no, the talent was always there, is always there. I think with him, they just cut him down in such a way because he was the first sort of mega star to break at that very young age in the 80s in that comedy boom. And every movie you make is not going to live up to Beverly Hills Cop and 48 hours. These are like masterpieces of comedy. so you can't expect everything to work.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So what does he do now? I think he just does voiceovers in his basement and makes $40 million. You know what I don't think it's too bad. No, I'm not saying that. Does he want to exercise that muscle anymore? He says that he does, but I can only imagine having been trashed the way that he has been. Why would you want to go out and go,
Starting point is 00:20:49 okay, have to make something that live up to delirious and raw where you're 20 and 25, and now you're, he's got to be what approaching 60, I would assume. Yeah, but he should do it. I mean, Louis C.K. is still out there. You want to be talking about trashed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I mean, and Louis C.K. proved that it, and I was so glad he came back. Me too. You know, I'm going to put Louis in the top five as well. I think he's phenomenal. So I'm going to put him obviously in the top five as well. And Patrice O'Neill, actually. I don't know if I've named six. Treesoneil.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't think I've seen her. Him. Him. Patrice O'Neill, Big Black, dude. Always a male. Always a guy. A whole guy.
Starting point is 00:21:34 No, no. He passed a few years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always a dude. He put out an album called Elephant in the Room, or a special. One of the funniest specials ever where he's talking about a girl who went missing in Aruba.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And he's like, what's her name? And the whole audience goes, Natalie Holloway. He goes, right, right. And the other girl he killed the, the the Hispanic girl nobody says anything
Starting point is 00:21:58 he goes yeah exactly no one cares they just sent some guy out to the end of a pier to be like yeah we don't see her it's like
Starting point is 00:22:07 he did this space it was it was one of the most it's one of the best specials I've ever seen it's perfect it's offensive it's great it's like and he was somebody
Starting point is 00:22:16 who took a risk every time he was on on Mike I think one of the best comedy writers and comedian and I'm surprised he wasn't on your list is Ricky Jervais. Oh, Jervais for sure.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I mean, that's why it's so tough to. And Jervais has heart too in a way, especially with his show that he put out recently and the way that has, yeah, 100%. Have you seen, what is it, the BBC series that he did, Derek, I think? Have you ever watched that? I haven't seen Derek, no. You should watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'll watch it, though, for sure. First of all, it's very dark, but it's about a guy. He plays a handicapped guy, and he has to live in a nursing home with a bunch of old people. And there's this one character that is so offensive, so offensive, that it's hard to watch. And he doesn't fit. You know, it's just all of a sudden everything's going to, and then this guy comes in so offensive. But you watch the arc.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I mean, he's brilliant with heart. He is just brilliant. Yeah, there's. He's like a, Hughes. what was his name? He made a bunch of stuff with John Candy, the director and writer. Oh, not Harold Ramos.
Starting point is 00:23:32 No, no, no. Oh, John Hughes. John Hughes. See, that's what's missing today. John Candy is one of my old-time favorite, just not a stand-up. And I think John Hughes is missing because Uncle Buck,
Starting point is 00:23:42 train planes, and automobiles. These are a movie, yeah, they don't make those anymore. I've been saying it forever where you just, you love the character. Right. There's this schlub, there's a reason these people exist,
Starting point is 00:23:51 exist you don't there's no heart anymore to anything like that i think that's him you know um but no but jervace his last one about the one where his wife dies and he's completely you know he just hates everyone yeah yeah as a result of oh yeah yeah and and there's what is it uh i forget the name of afterlife after life yeah it's brilliant brilliant and you see you turn around at the end and there's so much heart there yeah and that's what i love about jervis is that's the underlining thing there's always this theme and so you know red skeleton yes so red skeleton said um you can go see a clown at the circus and you will just remember you saw a bunch of clowns at the circus yeah but the clown that can make
Starting point is 00:24:36 you laugh and cry you will never forget yep and that's ricky travase i mean he's he's brilliant so did you ever see life's too short no i don't think it was a show he made with warwick davis who played like leprechaun and he was in willow and they just they just hate him so they do stuff like they make the door on their office they put the knob a little bit too high so he can't get in it's just it's just it's like deliberately cheap but it's so funny because warwick is willing to take life is life's too short it's too short i got to look that up it's brilliant and one episode he's being trolled by this this kid constantly on my space attacking him for being a dwarf so he finds him goes to the school, walks into the classroom, and just starts ripping this kid apart where
Starting point is 00:25:25 everybody's laughing. And then it cuts back to the kid, and he's just in a wheelchair with a blow straw. And then he realizes he starts feeling bad. So at the end, he's like, well, you know, I just felt he kind of deserved it. And, like, behind him, it's just the kid in the blowchair would, like, kick me on the back of it. Kids are chucking backpacks at him. And it's just like this. It was so funny. And, like, only, like, Jervais and somebody with enough vulnerability like Warwick Davis could have pulled it off. You, I have a very dark sense of humor, but I know where that came from. Jervais has a very dark sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You're one of the darker ones I've seen. Where does it come from with you? A lot of places. I grew up in, I grew up in Gross Pointe Pointe Woods, which, board of Detroit. Okay, that's enough. Yeah, right there, right off eight miles. You saw a lot of stuff. My dad was, well, my mom was kind of like a bipolar nurse. And my dad- A nurse for people with bipolar or she had bipolar. She was a great nurse. She just wasn't good of treating her own bipolar. Oh, okay. Yeah. And my dad got Agent Orange in Vietnam. And
Starting point is 00:26:42 they, he ended up with a brain tumor. And the government was very kind. They gave us absolutely nothing and they didn't address it at all. And his insurance company was like... I know it sounds bad, but I kind of wish we'd return to those days on a lot of fronts with the government where they did nothing for you. Anyway. Yeah, they just, well, they didn't help at all. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 The insurance company as well was like, sure, you've been paying us, but maybe you've had it forever. So he ended up having to pay out of pocket. My dad was my hero. He ran Babe Ruth Little League for. for everybody. He was everybody's coach. He was and he got sick when I was about 14. He ended up passing away, which then led to my mom's suicide. And that, uh, that's where mine came from. So we have a very, a lot in common. Yeah, your mom as well? Yeah, when I was 14 or 15.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah, I'm very sorry to hear that. My, yeah, I was at older, my mom did, but my dad died when I was a teenager. Yeah. Yeah, I was on stage a couple days ago and a kid in the crowd said he had been in the back of a police car. I said, why? Yeah, I was at a kid in the crowd said, I said, well, my girlfriend's mom killed herself. I was like, oh, I did. She dug myself quite a hole. It's probably not as deep as the one they dug for her. And then I said, don't mean, my mom.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I said my mom killed herself as well. Don't worry about it. But it was right after we had our kid. And she would be like, could I babysit? And I'd be like, I don't know, mom. Because if you get depressed like an hour in, you're going to have to at least hang yourself from the ceiling tan, so he's got a mobile to look at.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And it's the only way that I could justify. I like the right because I loved my mom right I just she she lost her mind after my dad passed and because she was older she worked as a candy striper and then became a nurse and then she would work in mental wards and as a result of that she never got help and she knew how to she would attempt suicide and then talk her way out of it like that because she knew what to say right she was smarter than them so she would just say whatever and they'd go well yeah you shouldn't be here. Obviously, you clearly drank a bottle of Vicod and on accident to go home. Right. You know, and so my dad would go around the country trying to pay out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So my dad, who went from nothing when we were born to a millionaire, lost everything. And I ended up being raised by my aunt, my, my, or my aunt, various aunts. The woman who was watching us was a very close family friend. She ended up killing herself. Did you ever start to think maybe? I thought maybe it's me. Yeah. I'm going, am I the common denominator? A lot of people killing themselves around me.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, she had been stealing pills from work. She was an ER nurse. And she got caught. And one day she didn't come home. And I'm like, this is weird. And then she didn't come home again. But because I was now a teenage drug addicts, I was like, well, I'm not going to ask any questions. I'm just going to throw parties.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And then when I went to her house to check, she had, you know, She'd swallowed a handful, died in her bathtub, and then I was watched by other aunts and stuff. And I remember it because she got very mad when she found out that I had smoked pot, very angry. And I was like, this is weird. She lets me smoke cigarettes and shoot pool and like what, you know, but she got nuts at me. And I realized it was a projection of her own addiction. So after that, I just kind of, I didn't go to, I gave up on going to school. I didn't really have any ambition other than pot.
Starting point is 00:30:17 possibly going to Second City to do comedy. But I didn't really believe in much. And I was arrested 13 times over the course of... From what age to what age. I was arrested mostly from 16 to 20. And then once at 27. And that's when my sobriety started. And jailed I?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Just jail, not prison. Good for you. Yeah, I'm not so much. Good for you. I'm not a monster. I didn't break federal laws. No, I mean, come on. It was just some theft in four DUIs.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That's it. Passing out at a red light and a toga. Yeah, I thought it was a stop sign. Actually, I thought it was a stop sign. I thought it was a red light. I was like, this thing. Oh, that was a bad day. Because I was waiting at a stop sign, and I thought it was a red.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So I started snorting ketamine off of a roadmap, you know, an animal tranquilizer, you know, to wake me up. Right. And I passed out. And who has indombedominymed? done that with their road map. Clearly, it's what they were for. Kids are not kids today. Where do they do their catabine? Right. Off their phone. That's why it's so amazing that it's for depression now. I'm like, what do you think I was doing it for?
Starting point is 00:31:30 I could have told you that in 98. So like I ended up getting woken up by the police and they're like, what are you doing? And I said, my car stalled. And they said it's running. And I said, it must have restarted. And then they arrested me and they walked me into the jail because it turned out I was in front of the police station. So it was these different things where I would get and then a whipitz was another one where nitrous was very popular in the 90s in Detroit. And in the late 90s I went, probably like 2000. I went to a store in Detroit and I was trying to buy like 30 cans of whipped cream in like mid-August.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And the guy's like, what are you going to use these for? I'm like, uh, ice cream social. And mind you, I'm wearing like a full track suit. I have a sideways hat and chains. And the guy's just taking them behind the counter.
Starting point is 00:32:27 He's like, I'm not selling you these. I'm like, yeah, you are. He's like, no, I'm like trying to reach for him.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He's like, I'm going to call the cops. Like, okay. So I walk outside and I start giving them the finger and there were these two liters. And I just started filling my car with the two liters. Like, these are mine now.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'm hammered. And then I notice a cop. And I'm like, oh, so I start waving to the guy all politely. Like, thank you for all the two leaders, sir. And I get in and I drive away. I get pulled over a few minutes later. Dude, the day I got my license, I got a DUI. The day I got in a high-speed chase and crashed my car into a tree.
Starting point is 00:33:03 On the day you got my license. Yeah, my dad let me borrow his car. And he regretted it. Yeah. And it was a little bit after you just got diagnosed. So you can tell that. So you hadn't proven your car. yourself to be a complete moron?
Starting point is 00:33:19 No, not yet. No, no, no. He was worried, but my dad fortunately, at that time, I shouldn't say fortunately, but I think his brain hadn't been going yet. And my dad was very funny. He was like Dangerfield. Like he would really make jokes about anything, really had a great sense of humor, and was tough as nails.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I mean, he had a halo in, drilled to his head for a year and a half, and he would go golfing. And he didn't take painkillers. It was crazy. but he the day he loaned me the cars when he started to worry about me because I'd never been arrested before, 16 and I got in a high-speed chase because I was giving people lawn jobs going under their lawn, you know, ripping it up, you know, and I decided to do it in front of a guy who was sitting in a BMW
Starting point is 00:34:05 and I had a Buick Regal. And so we ended up in this high-speed chase and we were having a family reunion at the time. So I smashed into a trainwhip. Now, all my friends who were still conscious run. I'm unconscious by the earbag. So it's just me. And what I didn't know, even though he had gone down to the hood to get liquor,
Starting point is 00:34:27 was the trunk was filled with a bunch of party supplies for the party the next day. So the trunk pops open. And for like a half a mile is potato chips and beer and liquor just leading to me unconscious in a car. And then I wake up and I see my dad and I walk out and my dad's never been violent to me. And I walk out and I go, dad, don't worry. I'm okay. And he just hit me in the face. And knocked me out the second time that evening.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And then I get woken. I finally wake up and the cop seriously goes, he's awake if you want to hit him again. Completely on my day. You know, they knew exactly what had happened. Six months suspended license though at that time, kind of a slap. on the wrist, different time. And then from then on, the more my dad was gone, the more my family was gone. I just, I had abandonment issues, which was not their fault, but I was just kind of lost.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I had, you know, I just sort of went to a very- You're saying family's important? Yeah, it's weird. Yeah. You know, it's almost like you need them. Right. And, yeah, so I was being raised by my friends who could stay out all night. And a lot of them, the ones who could stay out all night, were,
Starting point is 00:35:44 dealing with certain issues at home and the ones that had good home lives were going home. And I ended up addicted to drugs and alcohol for years. How far down that rabbit hole did you go? Very, very, very. I mean, 13 arrests and I was a, if I didn't drink, and this is by the time I was a senior in high school, I remember I went to eat rice at Eastland Mall in Detroit at a food court. And when I went to eat the rice, my hand was shaking. so bad from withdrawals. It was like going everywhere. And my friend Stu's like, do you have Parkinson's? He's
Starting point is 00:36:20 just like ripping on me. And I'm like, I got to go to the bathroom. And I drove down the street, grab some liquor from the liquor store. And I just slammed it to drive back so I could sit down and finish eating my food. Wow. And that was the moment I'm like, I realized I was a severe alcoholic. And then when I finally ended up in rehab and felt what it was like to detox, I knew that I had some serious problems. So you were really just addicted to alcohol? Alcohol is my main
Starting point is 00:36:52 thing, but I did, I mean, I was a dry sold weed, I did everything, but alcohol is my main thing, eventually cocaine because I wanted to stay up to drink. Correct. And LSD was everywhere. I mean, I did we ballpark at like 350, 400 hits.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Jeez. Yeah. What do you think of this new trend where LSD is cool again, and it's good for you. I don't believe it. I mean, if there is some sort of idea to microdosing with mushrooms that actually cures depression and there's people that believe it, it can prove it, I'd be interested in truthfully seeing it. I'd like to see the facts.
Starting point is 00:37:33 LSD, because of where it comes from, and the way that it was made and the way that it's sort of a mind control, I don't think it was good for me because I have a thing called HPPD and I still get the occasional you know something will move I don't understand things I have a concept of time that's not necessarily really right oh yeah there's like a division of like when I started doing hallucinogens versus when I didn't and I have like two separate lives and I didn't know that yeah I didn't know that until my doctors you know diagnosed me with it so I just wouldn't do it you know and I've had friends who are like 40 now. We're like, I think I want to try acid.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And I'm like, at 40? Like when you're 16, you don't have to worry about it. See, I have the different advice. I became an alcoholic. And now as an adult with teenagers, I need those blackouts. I wasted them on nothing. Oh, I'm not saying I don't miss a good one. Don't piss those away, man.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You only have so many of those. Yeah, you can still get a hangover, though. I just have to eat ice cream and then wake up the next day and I feel like I've been doing egg stands all night. It's wonderful. So, yeah, I guess, you know, really, though, I guess how it went was just different dark things happened in my life and making jokes with my friends. It's how I just dealt with it. Biennue at board of VIA. Embarked and profite.
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Starting point is 00:40:14 Do it now. Relieffactor.com or 800, the number four relief. A lot of people know you as, you know, the co-host with Stephen Crowder. Yes. You still talk to him because he's falling off the map. Yeah, well, he had the issue with the Daily Wire. That was very public. I believe he's coming back, though.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You do? Yeah. Good. We miss him. Yeah, I know a lot of people. He's very funny. Yeah, a lot of people really want him back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 When you look at people who are doing comedy, let's say Saturday Night Live, and you see the people that are on there now, do you think they know they've sold out that they're, their shills? Or are they just, had they just finally just hired a bunch of people who are. are really not funny, just not, you know, it used to be everybody was really funny. They just didn't know how to finish it. Yeah. Now it's like it's the ending of every scene is the whole scene. Yeah, I agree. It feels like it's written by the CIA every time you want, doesn't it? It does. It really is uncomfortable. Yeah. And then you see update and I kind of go, okay, they're comics. I do think they are. You know, I think Colin Jones knows what he's doing. You know, I think, but the rest of the show, it just feels like it's a
Starting point is 00:41:41 force thing. It's like, I used to like Colbert. Mm-hmm. And then once you saw the dancing Vax needles, I was like, why would you allow that ever? Can you imagine even Johnny Carson coming out there? No. Even Lennel. Anybody. Nobody would have done it. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Nobody would have. That's an agenda. It's propaganda. And it's, and you've, you've also, it's not, that, that screams propaganda. It was so terrifying in a way to see those dancing. needles. But it's like people just write off half the country now. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Where Carson would have never done that. No. Never done that. It was for everybody to enjoy. Yeah. And that's the part where if you don't enjoy something on accident or because by default, you're offended or you don't like it, that's fine. I mean, comedy's not for everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Not everybody's going to like you. But now it's deliberate division and that's what they want. Yeah. And that's what the entire mainstream outlets are. It's to make a group of people hate another group of people. And unfortunately, everything in the mainstream is designed to make you detest. It's not even just right. It's anything outside of their dogma.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yes. It's a religion. Yeah, for sure. It's extreme. It's hard to even call it left at this point because people can look at liberal and I can look it liberal and go, well, I'd say I was liberal. I don't, that's why I don't call it liberal anymore. I don't, I'm uncomfortable calling it Democrats.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. There are Democrats that I know, they vote Democrat. Right. And they don't buy into all this crap. They're strangely not standing up against it. But that's different. There is, the power is in the Uber dangerous left. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And that's why it's where they land. But we're at a point now where, people are doing things to be liked, but what they're doing is extreme. And what they're doing is, it's violent, it's wrong, and it's very much to be liked. And we're living in a thing where outrageous currency. So why? Why is that something you want to be a part of? And it's not even, you know, it comes down to we have arguments of people use trans or they use this or they use that and they want to use victimhood and they want to use everything else or be a part of this. I don't feel that this is how everybody feels.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I don't feel that there should be this constant training of division to make you feel like you're nothing. And that's what it is. It is. I've talked to several people and many of them, atheists or agnostic. I'm like, you know, this is a very religious word. But I don't know how to describe telling people you are nothing. you will never be anything unless you get them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's just evil. Well, and to blame somebody else, that's the idea. You're never going to be anything because of that guy. Why would you believe that? And then you have an entire institution. You have college, all that, higher learning, and the ideas you go there. And a professor teaches you that you can never amount to anything
Starting point is 00:45:00 because you were born into a color. And then this other color has everything, but doesn't deserve it. and this has to somehow be switched. So you're being trained that you should never be anything because you can't be. Unless you take it. Right. And the other part is being taught that they are worthless and that they need to check themselves in every way possible.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And I have a son. It's like, I don't buy into that. How old is he? He's going to be eight this weekend. So judging by the way, the world's going, it's going to be a good last birthday. Good last year. You have to be. I mean, I have teenagers.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm terrified for the world. And they have gone to the age where they have asked me, so, Dad, I know you're really pessimistic. What's my life going to be like? And the honest answer is, I don't know. It could be really great. It could be really bad.
Starting point is 00:46:02 But I grew up in a time that was a blip in human history. It's always been that, you know? Yes. But do you think the American age is over? I think social media ruined it. I think because I think technology ruined it. I think technology evolved a lot quicker than people did. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And I think that's the dangerous part is I do believe in freedom of speech and that everybody should have a voice. When did we stop saying, I so strongly disagree with you, but I'll fight to my last breath for you to be able to say it? Right. And the problem is, is I've learned, though, that a lot of the people on social media, eh, maybe shouldn't talk? I've always thought of it as we've all, we know these people were around us.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I mean, we always had the guy on the street or the family on the street that everybody else in the street would go, kids do not play. Just don't go over there. Just don't go over there. If they're talking to you, just keep walking on, pretend you didn't hear it. Everybody had that. But now they have connected with everybody else's person on the street. And so they have this voice.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's the same voice it's always been. It's just in our face and being used now to terrify all of us. And everything's being used for fear, including a ring doorbell app. Like I have that where all of a sudden I just want to make sure everything's safe at my house. I have cameras in the back. You know, it's, I had to, I had to become a gun owner for my own safety. And it was because of threats that I had gotten from being on like the Coomia show. And so all of a sudden in my ring doorbell app, I'm getting stuff from, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:54 other people that have it. Like, there's an ambulance on this street. Does anybody know why? It's like, I think you're a little too worried. But it's people that are shut-ins that are always worried about everything. And now they're afraid because they're telling the whole neighborhood what the thing can feel and they're worried and it's it's this it's a market of fear so are you i mean i might be one of those ring people fair that are like i because i want sponsored by ring i want i want i love that
Starting point is 00:48:23 technology i love the ease of everything but i don't trust the gathering of all of that information when it comes to those companies now getting in bed with the government you're like whoa whoa whoa I don't want you having, you know, a complete visual contact of me all the time. Not like I'm coming home, you know, drenched in blood, but no, I could. I mean, yeah, and then I really don't want it to work. Right. But I just don't want that intrusion, and there's no one to trust, it seems. No, and they're selling your information out.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah. I remember when I got a pager and I was, I don't know, 16. And my dad's like, excuse me, doctor. and I'm like what? He's like, why do you have a pager? And I'm like, you know, my friends want to. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, exactly. I'm like, my friends want to get a hold of me, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:15 in case they're near a pay phone and need a dime back. But he's like, why do you really need one? And I'm like, I don't know, that's what we have them. He goes, don't you think it's dangerous, how easy it is for people to get a hold of you? Yes. And this is in the 90s. But it really bothered him because then it was right when like the internet came out. And he liked technology, but he just kept finding it.
Starting point is 00:49:37 scary how there was this beginning of no privacy. And this was, you know, he passed long before any of this stuff. Yeah. But even then, he was warning me about what was going on, how this seems like it's a very, very slippery slope into where you will never have a moment of a day where you can be left alone. Well, if you look at what the World Economic Forum is saying, if you look at even Ray Kurzweil or Stephen Hawking.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah. We're talking about things that are so far. beyond our understanding. Because man's never faced anything like this. With AI and all the stuff is coming, that could be the most dangerous
Starting point is 00:50:19 cage that nobody ever gets out of except the ruling elite. But they might actually be trapped by a form of AI that grows beyond them. It is the acting elite in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:50:37 maybe ruined by AI because it's like, oh, we have actors with no ego. Yeah. They're like, oh, that's great. You don't have to pay them? Right. Oh, it's wonderful. That can completely happen. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I mean, in a very selfish way. I mean, when it gets good enough, I thought, I'm going to fake my death, you know, and just hide it. And then I'll just have me. I'll just get up in the morning, take two minutes ago, talk about this. And I'll be on TV and radio talking about that forever. It's getting pretty solid. I've been making a few porns of me. It's just me and me.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They don't sell well, do they? No, no. I'm the only buyer. Right. It's like a fine wine. You know, you have to develop a taste for it. Is there anything that is off limits? No.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah. I used to say to my writers, when we were doing, I was doing comedy shows early, in my career. And I said, I don't know. This might be over the line.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I look at me, is it funny? If it's funny, never cut funny. Ever. That's the difference. Like, there has to be this level where it's like, if you're doing something for a complete offense, just to be offensive. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Why? But if it's hilarious, who cares? I mean, I've never felt that anything should be, if it's done the right, way as well as no never and i've and i've heard the most offensive jokes in the world and everyone i've heard is funny to me i mean i'm not saying everybody would like them right but you know to me funny but yeah i don't find anything to be over the line and maybe i'm somebody that can take it a little more like sometimes i'll be hanging out with people at a party and because i'm jaded i'll say
Starting point is 00:52:31 something and i'll be like oh man i yeah yeah and you're like well that's uh that's the one i shouldn't are gone with. You know, and you realize to reel it in and amongst other people. Right. Like, oh, right,
Starting point is 00:52:43 you have a soul. So it just depends. But for me, yeah, no, there's no line. You look at social media today
Starting point is 00:52:59 and TikTok and you see, I don't know if you saw the new app that came out this week. This is terrifying. It's a new app. It's a filter.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It makes it. It sounds like, work well with men, just women. Yeah. But it makes you absolutely model beautiful. So I don't need it? No, I can't work that many
Starting point is 00:53:24 miracles. It's weird. It doesn't seem to work really well with men. Yeah. But with women, I mean, you'll see these people and there's a couple that are like, oh, I don't look like that at all. And it, you know, just, they take the filter off and you're like, really? Put a little bit of makeup on.
Starting point is 00:53:40 and you look like that. Right. But then there's some that are just woof. Yeah. And they are beautiful in the filter. And every single woman that I saw doing it said the same thing. This is so bad. Is it called Tinder?
Starting point is 00:54:02 That's terrifying, though. It's terrifying. All of the women are saying, this is so bad. They want it, but they know this is. horrible because I don't look like that. We're living in a time where we have this impossible standard of beauty while we're also trying to embrace the worst things about somebody. Now, I shouldn't say the worst, but if you happen to be obese, you happen to be these things that people might find on a true, whatever it
Starting point is 00:54:31 might be. I don't care, but it's like for other people, that's something that they might look at, however they are flawed, where we don't embrace flaw, but then we're supposed to to embrace flaw. That's what I don't understand. We're living in a time where you go, okay, Lizzo's gorgeous, we want to love her for her body, whatever it is. While simultaneously saying, you're not good enough, you're not worth it,
Starting point is 00:54:52 you should look this good, that's why we created this app. It's a confusion and a consumerism that I'll never understand. So it just makes people feel like they don't... But they're both lies. Correct. They're both lies. That's what I don't get. And then you have
Starting point is 00:55:08 this reality in the middle. that isn't acceptable, which is who you are and who you should be. And there's nothing, like, and men, we're gross anyway. I do not understand why women would even, like, I don't understand why other guys are interested in other guys, let alone women. I don't get it at all, like, where you're like, because, yeah, I grew up around guys, it's like, I do, they were disgusting. You're disgusting.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Just awful creatures. And then you look at women, and they're just works of art. And it's like, you don't even need an app to realize how beautiful you are. Like you're made to be perfect. And then to have this on top of it, it's this competition with themselves that they don't even need to be having that creates an insecurity amongst them
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Starting point is 00:56:19 website. One of the things I fight with all the time, because
Starting point is 00:56:26 I realized at one point last summer, I think our family we were on vacation
Starting point is 00:56:34 and I think it was like the third day when I realized we hadn't
Starting point is 00:56:40 said a genuine kind thing to one another in three days. It's just, just wrecking. And I mean, all of us are just, we just keep stepping it up, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:55 And I thought, I don't know if this is real healthy. Sarcasm is, and I also realized a few years earlier, unfortunately, and I wish, I mean, this is tragic, but I have a daughter with cerebral palsy, and she's very literal, okay?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, oh yeah. And I didn't realize with all the sarcasm that's going on, you know, I know she's very literal, but I didn't think, like, you know, but she gets sarcasm. Right. No. And I just, I find myself in this place where it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't know, is that good or bad? sarcasm. It's, yeah, it's tough. I mean, if you know it, for sure, I think it's, I think it's my favorite. It's good, though, to me. I mean, yeah, especially my son is very sarcastic, who's like seven or eight. Like, I'll be excited about something. Like an accomplishment I had.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Oh, he just did this and it went really well. And, you know, my son will just kind of go like, oh, yeah, dad, that's really good. You should be really proud of yourself. And he's six, seven. I know. he just walks away and I'm like, that hurt a lot. It's like, why did she just kick me?
Starting point is 00:58:15 I know. I know. And they get it though at this like young age. And you were driving the other day and we were late and my, to, uh, going to my brother's house. And he goes, that's fine. Your brother's always late. Why don't you just blame it on him like you always do? I was like, do I'm like, do I have two wives?
Starting point is 00:58:34 You know, it's just, he'll just say stuff where. So I, yeah, I think it just depends. but I enjoy it. I think it's a fun way to be dry. I love it. Yeah. I had a meeting with an executive at Premier Radio when they were first hiring me to do syndicated talk.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Okay. And he was the vice president in charge of the talk industry. And so I had to go out and meet him. It was the last interview I had to do. And I sat at this steakhouse in New York City. And Paul Castellano was sharp. Shout outside. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And he was, everything he said, and I knew nothing about him and nobody warned me about this, everything he said was either sarcastic or he was an ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah. And I walked out of that building and I said, I either love that guy or hate his guts. You know what I mean? Because if he's serious, he's a,
Starting point is 00:59:38 monster. But he's the kind of guy, a little like Kaufman, that he just enjoyed it himself and he wasn't doing it for anybody else's laughs. He just likes to just watch people. Yeah. You know, and it turns out he was very sarcastic, which worked out well for me. Yeah. Otherwise, I probably would have been on a killing spree with it. But it's, it's bizarre. Let me ask you, I had Jim Brewer on, I don't know, a couple months ago. Okay. Yeah, I saw the interview. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:14 He is funny. He really is. And we talked afterwards and I said, because he's very spiritual, very spiritual. Yes. And I said, you've got to do a comedy special on religion because he can approach it in such a way where he's skeptical. and all the true stories that he went through that I think a lot of people because religious people
Starting point is 01:00:43 are always perceived as having a stick up their butt. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Are you religious? Because you grew up Catholic. Yes. Are you religious or are you spiritual? Are you nothing?
Starting point is 01:00:55 It's odd. No, no, I believe in God. I do. I pray. I do. But I have battled with it at times. And it was kind of being sober and finding a God, you know, that I believed and sort of taking pieces of what I thought
Starting point is 01:01:13 different religions worked for me. And it's not that I don't believe in Catholicism. I was very, very angry at the church for what they covered up. That's just the truth. You were an altar boy. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Still. I mean, you still still can't sit. I, uh, no, my, it was my brother. But that didn't happen to you. No, no, no, no. Thankfully, thankfully, not. I wasn't that cute. Cute enough.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I tried. Did you feel kind of like, you know, it's not that I wanted. I started dressing sex here. I would put glitter on before mass. Yeah. That was disheartening to me, though, because even when my mom had killed herself, she was very devout. And we would go to church sometimes three times a week. to the point where even God was like, you want to slow down?
Starting point is 01:02:09 You're really becoming kind of a groupie? Yeah, it's been much. Like, look, I get it. You're doing it right. Right. Yeah, but I am. Yeah, I am and I do go to church here and there. And I wouldn't say that I'm, you know, certainly this very, very devout in the sense of I follow all the rules, do everything right.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I'm not. I very much just believe on, believe very strongly in treating other people well. being kind to other people, and just praying to God, knowing that I am completely flawed in every way imaginable. And I try to do work on the side that I can do privately to help other people, do what I do. This is not, this is, now it feels kind of like, like, kind of like you're saying too much, like, I'm covering.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And I help people on the weekends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I killed the guy. on the way Yeah Too much When I used to drink You wake up in the morning
Starting point is 01:03:11 And you go Well I hope that's deer blood On the hood of my car I guess deer's wear shoelaces Yeah I am But it's like I can't say
Starting point is 01:03:24 I'm a particular religion To be honest with you I guess is what I'm trying to say I I But I don't hate The Catholic Church Like I did for a
Starting point is 01:03:33 minute and that's the truth. Because I was very, very angry at what happened. But now that I've had priests come to my shows that are fans, they find the jokes funny, I've been able to open my eyes to go, well, there was a serious problem going on. There may still be. So the fact that they go to your show and find your filthy comedy funny doesn't make you question them as priests even more. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's kind of true.
Starting point is 01:04:02 But like I'll even go out to him and go, sorry about that whole altar boy part. And they'll be like, I'm just glad it went by quick. Glad I wasn't wearing the collar. Yeah, they'll be in like one of my shirts. Yeah, I guess it's hard for me to answer, you know, than a simple yes or no, because it's like, yes, I do believe in God. And I do believe that there's something that has created us. but I at the moment
Starting point is 01:04:31 I'm trying to figure out not so much what that is but what I believe fully is the best way I can put it. But yeah it does sound more where I'm like no I try to be nice I don't know
Starting point is 01:04:44 yeah I don't I don't I do stuff yeah I don't you know I don't traffic no more you know it's just sort of I don't traffic no more
Starting point is 01:04:57 yeah but I do believe in God Yeah, I think my father, when he died, he was so open-minded on almost everything. And I really loved that about him. He could find the joy other people had in things that he didn't necessarily agree with. But he thought, this is great. And towards the end of his life, he became just so. calcified and he became a different man. And I think the secret to never getting old and also
Starting point is 01:05:41 probably to a better afterlife is just always question. Always, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know what I believe, but I could get to the other side and it's like nothing like that. Maybe it's that, you know, the elephant and the eight-armed woman up there. Yeah, yeah. I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked if it was. I think about that. If I'm, you know, if I'm up there and I'm dead, and that's the reality, I guess I'm like, I'm Hindu or whatever that really.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah, you're like, oh, weird. Is that close enough? Are you just here? You wake up in your lizard and you're like, sorry of a god. Yeah. And I thought about that too where I think that that's the part that bothers me sometimes about religion where it's like, I know exactly what happens. and I judge you very hard for it. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And I don't know. All I know is nothing. And I was raised to question everything. It's like when I was young, my dad was, I saw JFK in the theater when I was nine. And like we would go to Gettysburg. We would go to all these history places. And that's where we, and I actually had interest in it as a kid. But it was basically my dad saying, hey, the CIA killed this guy.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'm like nine. You know, and it's like, don't trust anything. Don't trust. I always learned, like, don't necessarily believe anything that you see as fact. And that's how I grew up to believe everything. It was just don't necessarily believe what's on the surface. Like you said, always ask question. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:12 I mean, I remember the JFK thing, you know, there was more shooters, blah, blah, blah. He was a CIA agent. When I got older, I could look into those things and go, well, maybe. I don't know, but maybe. But now it's starting to come out and you're like, good God, it looks like the CIA or somebody involved in the government did kill him. Yes. I mean, it's almost as if everything you believed is crumbling. And that is so dangerous because you got to hold on to something.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Is there anything that was real? Do you feel like that ever? Yes, all the time. Because everything that I look at is somehow. related to something that you were supposed to believe in. You were supposed to believe in some, you're supposed to believe in some level of decency and some level of protection. And the reality is,
Starting point is 01:08:08 all along it's been a level of power. And that's what bothers me about everything that's going on. It's the same thing with, if people look at a global thing or everything that's going on right now. What is the benefit of everything that's happened in the last few years? Power. Power. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And what does power want? More power. That's it. They don't care. It's the same as, you know, I know that you talk about certain things people had to take. You know, you look at Woody Harrelson the other night on SNL and how people are getting mad. And it's like, for what? For saying what happened? He just said what happened.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's all he said. And people are outraged. Why are you outraged? It's just what happened. That's the part I don't understand. Why did you not question it? why did you think that that was a good, again, I have every vaccine imaginable.
Starting point is 01:09:02 The one that I didn't take was the one that seemed a little odd. Like even in my special, when I talk about, you know, if I got the polio vaccine in the next morning I woke up and I'm like, why are my legs all noodly? You know, I'm just, you know, FDRing across the floor. Yeah, it's like I would have questions. So I just kept noticing everybody was getting sick.
Starting point is 01:09:23 So I'm like, well, this isn't effective. And I kept flying. and I would go to like Florida or Alabama that would let me do shows. And people are like, you're the biggest germaphobe I know. Why are you flying? I'm like, there's no one on the plane.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I get first class. I pay $80 and then they pump me up. No one's on the plane. I can still make money as a performer. I am like, this is absurd. Like you putting a mask on with your germy hands is absurd. And it's because I grew up with somebody
Starting point is 01:09:50 who was teaching me about germs constantly. So it all didn't add up. and the way that people didn't question it and politicized it made no sense and then switched. Like the left was completely against Trump. He was at warp speed, all this, don't take the vaccine, don't do this, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Then they were like, yeah, you got to take Biden's vaccine. But yeah, you got to do this. And they were against big pharmaceuticals. But in the worst, in the worst pharmaceutical incident, I think maybe since bear, bear in Germany. You're seeing that this is collusion with the government and it's
Starting point is 01:10:31 all cover-ups. And yet those same people who were right to question pharmaceuticals. Yes. Are now like, don't say that about Pfizer. How dare you say that about Pfizer? Yeah, why would a company ever ever do something against you?
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's not like they created an epidemic of opioids. And I'm young enough to, or, you know, and I'm old enough to remember where I worked at a pharmacy in the 90s, which is a great place for a drug addict to work. It's really good. Especially when they weren't really counting anything. You could just get a handful of Valium and throw some nickels in there. But it was, I remember, though, the oxy reps and the Vicodin reps. I mean, you could have an oxy pen at the doctor's office.
Starting point is 01:11:17 You know, like this was something that they were selling. Oh, yeah. They were really pushing it, everything. And I'm not against opioids for the proper use of them. Right. I don't believe that anybody should have to live in pain. Not at all. You know, there's enough stuff to kill it, but, you know, fentanyl is an end-of-life drug.
Starting point is 01:11:36 That's what it says on the box. It's for hospice. For end-of-life use only. For hospice. And sadly, I've lost, oh, man, at least 15 friends in the last two years. From fentanyl? Oh, yeah. Because it was in cocaine.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And I don't know why people are still. doing cocaine. But then it's in there. There's the tiniest bit. They don't know what it's for. They don't know if it's for, because they make it for a different degree of, you know, some's for people, some's for elephants, some's for the, you know, and then it ends up killing them. I wouldn't touch any of that stuff now. But that's a drug that is designed to kill you peacefully. And it's just being made and pumped out. You're on the road now. Yes. Where are you going?
Starting point is 01:12:25 I will be in, let's see, where am I going? I'm going to the Ice House in Pasadena, California. And then I will be at the Comedy Zone in Greenville, South Carolina. When are you at Milk Through Your Nose? I will be, what? Every other Wednesday. Every other Wednesday. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Sounds like a club that would exist. Yeah, I'm at Yuck Yucks and Milk through my nose. Yeah. Came at Barn Yucks. Huckle. Well, I hope we see more of you. You're very funny. I really enjoy talking to you.
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