The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 189 | How Motherhood 'Radicalized' a Former Los Angeles 'Libtard' | Bridget Phetasy | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: June 24, 2023

Leftists today hate truth. Bridget Phetasy knows this all too well, and as a California refugee, she has stories. But while her journey from “libtard” to “based” has been years in the making, ...it was motherhood that really “radicalized” her. Once her daughter was born, the leftist perversion of our schools hit that much harder. Bridget joins Glenn to discuss just how much has changed since that big milestone in her life, as well as another one: her decision to escape to Texas (which she admits is WAY better). Plus, they wander through an array of funny, tragic, and insightful commentary, from an Uber driver’s take on communism to a debate on whether she should teach her daughter how to code or how to prepare for Armageddon. The two also discuss the shocking origins of modern transgenderism in pre-Nazi Germany and why she demands that politicians like President Biden define their own insane terms: What does “gender-affirming care” really mean? But then again, she might settle for an honest answer to the question, “Mr. Biden, do you even know where you are?”   SPONSORS: When you buy socks from https://grip6.com/BECK, you’re supporting American ranchers and American manufacturers and getting a pair of socks that keep your feet warm in the winter and cool in the summer.   The Jase Case from Jase Medical is a great way to keep yourself prepared for the worst. It's a pack of five different courses of antibiotics that you can use to treat a long list of bacterial infections. Go to https://JaseMedical.com and use offer code “BECK” at checkout to get a special discount.   Home Title Lock. Home title fraud is growing 2.5x faster than credit card fraud. You could be a victim and not even know it. Visit https://HomeTitleLock.com and use the promo code BECK to get 30 days of free protection.   "The Glenn Beck Podcast" has partnered with Pre-born with a goal of saving 70,000 babies in 2023. Every tax-deductible donation, big or small, helps to save the unborn. Get involved today by dialing #250 and saying the keyword “BABY” or donate securely at https://preborn.com/GLENN  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The New York Post recently published an article about single woke females. For the first time in American history, the majority of women between 18 and 35 are voluntarily opting out of the traditional pathways of marriage and parenthood. Among liberals, it has become a total obsession. Yet nobody on the left can answer the question, what is a woman? Birth rates are dropping for many reasons, some of which are downright depressing. A lot of people are asking, what's the point of starting a family? It's strange and it's awful and it's a suicide note for humanity. Because of the importance of parenthood and because it is rooted in thousands of years of love and meaning that is so enormous, it's often impossible to describe.
Starting point is 00:00:52 The last time today's guest was on this podcast was three or four years ago and she wasn't a parent. She wasn't married. And this has led her into an incredible transformation. She hosts the walk-ins welcome podcast and recently started her podcast with her husband. What is it like working with a spouse? I hope we can get to that today. Today's guests can talk about anything to anyone with the ease of a gifted storyteller, a brilliant writer and humorist.
Starting point is 00:01:26 She's tweeted earlier this week. I have some thoughts on the future of human civilization for anyone who can't get Elon on their podcast. Please welcome Bridget Fetasy. Before we get to Bridget, let me tell you about home title lock. When was the last time you checked the legal title to your home? Why? Because most victims of home title theft don't know they're a victim until it is way too late and the criminal's already gone. Take this homeowner, for instance.
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Starting point is 00:02:56 So good to be here. Thank you for having me. You were on the radio when you were pregnant. Yes. But the first time we met about four years ago. and you look great. Thank you. You look healthy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah. And I know just in listening to you and corresponding occasionally that you are much healthier and all these changes in your life. Yeah. So we're going to get to that here in a second. But you were just telling me right before we started that you had an Uber driver from Venezuela. I just love talking to the Uber.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I always talk to them. I want another whole story. Like, how did you end up in Dallas? How did you? He was in Florida first, and then he came to Dallas, and it's a really funny story about air conditioning, sales, and his sister was here. And so then, but he was talking about how prosperous Venezuela was.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And he said when he was a kid, he was nine years old, and he was sent to America to learn English. And just what, he didn't really want to come here. But then he saw the conditions deteriorating, and he started talking to. to me and he said that he said I always kind of just gauge if my my passengers can handle you know what level of conversation I can have with that he said these people have got really mad and I and then he started saying the thing everyone kind of says in private these days and he said
Starting point is 00:04:27 the thing that they're doing where they're taking a five-year-old and they're saying maybe you're not a girl he's like this is child abuse and then he just started you know the only better than uh uber drivers new york cabbies yeah they're really if especially if they're old yeah they're driving way too long and way too fast but you learn so much from yeah so he was he was saying you know this is he just was saying people don't people he said communism looks really good on paper and when you're and idealistic. It sounds great. And then he was just talking about that the people who still control the means to everything are still humans and they still want the same things we all want. And they want to control things. And it was just funny. It was just a funny conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And he was like, you know, look at Venezuela now. It's tragic. Look at California. Yes, I'm a refugee. I know. I know. Washing up on the beach of Texas. I had someone pull up to me in my town now in Texas. And he was like, go back to where you came from. Like, excuse me, sir. No, I know. Yeah, no, it's the California driving probably. Yeah, it gave me away.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Do you, I mean, why did you move to Texas specifically? I mean, life is so strange. Last time I was here, I was joking that I feel like, I was, I'm in like a giant improv where I'm like, yes, and now I'll go on Glenn back. Because I wouldn't have ever thought I would end up in these situations or places being kind of. It's good though. No, it is. I think it's good to, you know, I had a friend say the other day, follow the truth wherever that
Starting point is 00:06:20 leads you, even if it's not somewhere you want to go, did you ever think you would be living in Texas? And I think part of me always wanted to live in. I love driving around America. Texas has always fascinated me. I think it's like its own ethos and its own culture. And everyone immediately becomes a Texan the minute they step foot here. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's weird, isn't it? I have, we have mutual friends who have moved here from other places. And they're like, online, you know, we need to text it. We need to. I'm like, you can't even drive. You're from New York. You don't even have a license. It is so true.
Starting point is 00:06:57 What kind of Texan doesn't have a license? Yeah. It doesn't know how to drive. but immediately you get that like, you know, we're going to be free. And if you are born here, it's even worse. My son was five maybe when we were talking about moving to Texas. He's adopted. He was born here in Texas.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Okay. But he was, you know, as soon as that's mom, he's up, you know, to New York and Connecticut. So we never talked about Texas. And he's sitting at the table, five years old, sitting at the table. We're talking about moving to Texas. Texas. And he said, you all realize that I will be the only true Texan in the family. And I'm like, where does that come from? Where does it come from? There's something in the soil and the water. I know. But it's great. It's great. It's funny. My daughter took her first steps in Texas. She wasn't
Starting point is 00:07:52 born here. She was born in California. But I'm like, I feel like that makes you a Texas. I have friends who will argue absolutely not. You know Marcus LaTrell? No. Okay. So Marksville, Navy SEAL. His brother is also a Navy SEAL and doctor now. And he was still in the SEALs and he was in Virginia. His wife was about to give birth like days away from giving birth. And he calls his brother Marcus up here in Texas. They grew up in Texas. And he said, bro, I just want to make something clear. Even though my son is born in Virginia, he's. a Texan, right? And Marcus seriously said, no, he'll be a Virginia. And he's like, come on, man. He's like, no, he'll be a Virginia. So he put his nine-month pregnant wife into a car and drove to Texas and had the child here. Wow. Yeah, I mean, that is. That's commitment to the cause. That is commitment to the cause. It really is. It's so funny, though, there is something about it where I know. It's cool. It is cool. I just, I'm definitely.
Starting point is 00:09:01 definitely it took me a minute to kind of breathe into the different pace. I've been in Los Angeles for 16 years. And I think you for, and I do really think that I'll, you get Stockholm syndrome living in these cities in California that are kind of falling apart all around you. And it was like when I used to go to Joshua Tree and it would take me a couple of days to just let my nervous system come down from being in a city, but also just be, walking my daughter around and not looking around constantly for, I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I say every single walk I took her on. It was dodge someone who looks crazy or sketchy or looking around and living like that constantly, that fight or flight. It does something to your nervous system. So it took me, it took me a couple of weeks to really, really breathe into the pace and just be able to relax a little bit. Besides the weather, do you miss anything in California? I'm a freak.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I love this weather. Oh, my gosh. I'm a weird although. Oh, it's like 150 with 2,000 percent humidity right now. It reminds me of Sri Lanka, though, or India. There's just something. Oh, that's where I've always wanted to live. Nobody wants to live there.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I love Sri Lanka. It's sad what's happening there, too. I just, I don't mind the heat. I prefer it over the cold. called. My husband luckily is the same way and we walk out at eight when it's still 95 and we're like, we love this. I know. The heat, I was just on vacation a couple of weeks ago in Great Britain. No air conditioning. No. Okay. And it was like 80 degrees. And I'm like, no one in America would put up with this. I'm like, what is wrong with you people? And they were all fine with it. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:03 get some air conditioning. This is a 2,000 year old building. And get a window unit. Put some air in this place. And everybody was fine. It's different in America as the world economic forum and all the Green New Deal's. They're expecting us to not have air conditioning or not the way America has. I don't think, I think what you're doing in schools and mutilating kids, you add air conditioning, and that's a bridge too far. That's when like even the stanchous limbs are like, maybe Glenn has a point. How could you live here before air conditioning?
Starting point is 00:11:49 You could, apparently. Well, I don't know. I mean, I can escape it. So I do get to walk and, and I would. worry about my daughter, my dog, you know, they need to be able to escape this. But there was no air conditioning in Sri Lanka. We always used to be like, we needed AC room. Don't they have AC? I have to tell you, when we were walking down London, it was so hot and hot in every place. And I'm walking into these stores. And I'm like, no air conditioning in here either. In New York,
Starting point is 00:12:20 we open up the front of the stores when it's really hot so the people on the street feel the air conditioning like I got to just go browse in here for a while a complete opposite yeah they think we're nuts yeah I was in Rome one year and it was so hot and even I'm me who likes the heat I was making me I was like imagine what was like back then and then you add the smell of it you're in London and the river still brown from centuries of people pooping in it or something. I don't know. But imagine what that was like.
Starting point is 00:12:54 No, I like to imagine. We have it so good. We have it so good. We do. The amount of complaining that goes on, it just, I'm like, we have, this is an unparalleled time in human history and we're, right? Maybe we just need challenges. And this is, and we're self-destructing because there's, it's not, it's not hard
Starting point is 00:13:16 enough. And there's not, I don't know, we are so, we're. away from all other countries that, you know, you look at Canada and you're like, I mean, you know, I'm glad I'm not living in Canada, but it's not that bad. You know what I mean? Mexico's got some beaches. You know, it's bad. But it's not like some of the rest of the world that was so far away from us.
Starting point is 00:13:39 We lose context. And we have, honestly, I think of my father always saying to me, oh, you're crying? I'll give you something to cry. I feel like, I feel like dad, you know, maybe in the role of God, it's like, oh, really? That's bad? Yeah. I'll give you something to cry about because we're whining and crying now. My gosh, if things turn.
Starting point is 00:14:01 No, don't. I mean, there's not much. There are more and more people, I think, who will survive it because there are more and more preppers born every day. Out of necessity. I feel like I was joking with my friend. I'm like, I'm not sure if I should be preparing my daughter for, like, growing her own food and hunting or like going to Mars.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You know, it's like, what? Right. I was talking to Tim Urban about this and he has a young one too. And I'm like, I don't know. Should I be stockpiling seeds or teaching her how to code? Not definitely not to code. Those days are over with AI. I mean, it is a weird.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I read something the other day that, the first industrial revolution was 1760, okay? The first, second, and third industrial revolutions from 1760 to now, okay? All of that change will be dwarfed by the change from 2020 to 2040. Yeah, yeah, it's all exponential. It is, when you look at Tim Urban actually has this illustration on, it's in the intro to his book and he talks about if human history was 2,000 pages or something and it's like the last, all of the last industrial revolution, what you were just talking about
Starting point is 00:15:30 is all on the last page. I know. I know. But it was a slow and rather boring and smelly story before that. I mean, I was in Scotland and you'd go one place and they'd say and, you know, it's where the plague happened and this is how they lived. You go to another place. And, you know, 200 years later, they were living like this.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And you're like, that's not much different, you know. It was. I mean, Jonah Goldberg, I think, and his book talks about this, too. If aliens came and checked in on Earth, you know, every 5,000 years, it would be like, oh, not much has changed for 200,000 years. And then suddenly you're like, wait, what happened? I know. How did we get cars and planes?
Starting point is 00:16:13 And what's weird is, I just don't think it's. is a coincidence that you know when you're you're living in as a surf you can't own land you're you're on the king's land and so anything you do to make your life better he'll just take he'll make more money people just lose like why am i going to do that why would i put myself out and then we have freedom in the idea of the constitution and bill of rights and america does this and the and the rest of the world behind us, but still does this. And nobody connects the two. It's like all of a sudden, you know, around 1800 things just got great. You even started doing awesome. I mean, it is like our mutual friend Carol Ross Newbuck, you will own nothing, which is, is terrifying. I see these things
Starting point is 00:17:06 that, although I was reading something the other day, I think it was just a tweet. And someone said, oh, you think you own your land, try not paying property taxes. And I was like, oh. Right. Freedom. I know. I know. Uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I've been thinking about that because, you know, look at me. I'm not in the greatest of health. And I was thinking about, you know, when you get older and you have kids, and I want to talk to you about the changes in you already. But when you get older and you have kids, you start to think about leaving. you know, stuff behind. And lucky for me, I'm going to spend it all before I die. So, but I was thinking, I couldn't leave them my house because if I left it to one of them and they didn't have a very good job, even if the house is paid for, in Texas, you couldn't
Starting point is 00:18:03 pay the property tax. Right. So do you really ever own anything? I think property tax is the most immoral. thing you can do. It's so unfair. I see it in my hometown where it's a small New England village essentially, but it's the people who are elderly who own their homes, all of these rich people come in and buy property and all the values go up and now they have to leave their forever homes because they can't pay property taxes. It's so wrong. It seems horribly wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah. And people will, I don't know if that's capitalism doing it. thing but no that's government okay yeah that's government isn't it this is like taxation is theft if all of a sudden i own a home a home and a bunch of rich people move in and the neighborhood values go up sweet i'm great right because capitalism says now you're home for me yeah and when i want to if i want to i'm going to be sitting pretty yeah it's government saying uh you don't really own that you have to pay our taxes. That's nasty. I'm not smart enough to understand. This weekend is the one-year anniversary of the overturning of Roe versus Wade. And I want to take a moment to recognize the over 64 million babies whose lives were taken at the hands of abortion. And we pray for the
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Starting point is 00:20:51 I was joking that my whole life, the other unsettling thing about moving to Texas was becoming basic. What do you mean? It was like my whole life has been just trying to be, I don't know, different or cool or I felt like I was always chasing some elusive sense of of identity and really I just find so much joy and like the American dream. You know? I want like a nice
Starting point is 00:21:28 little piece of land and I want a good school for my kid to go to where she can ride her bike around with her friends and it's I never I never in I mean I think I joked last time that if you had told me that I was going to quit drinking and end up on this show I probably would have kept drinking but now I can extend that to like and be married to someone in recovery and have a baby which is amazing and end up living in Texas four years ago oh I know I said to you at the time you you You should move to Texas and you're like, I don't know. I mean, yeah, there were so many dreams of being someone. You know, I joke like.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And California will flush that down the toilet every time. It's nothing but shattered people working as a waiter or waitress waiting for their dream to happen. I wasn't shattered. Well, maybe a little bit shattered. Was waiting tables. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. No, there's nothing wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:22:32 People ever. It's if you're still, you know, you've been there for 40 years and you're still going on auditions. You haven't gotten anything. Such a tough industry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I did move there with big delusional dreams of grand, delusions of grandeur.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Sometimes they win. Sometimes it work. Yeah. And sometimes it's just not really, I don't know. I still love doing comedy. I found that. I still, I still, it's tragic what's happened to California. and I know a lot of people disagree with me
Starting point is 00:23:03 and they still think it's great, but I lived there for almost 20 years and the decline that I witnessed while I was there just around the state, and it's such a beautiful state that it's just tragic. It is tragic. San Francisco is. I was just talking to a guy who said,
Starting point is 00:23:22 he said, he was in London, he said, I'm coming to America. And I said, really, where are you going? And he said, San Francisco. And I said, so you're not really going to America? He got to look at me puzzled with that. And I said, have you been keeping up with the news? It's going to be a little different than perhaps you think.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's so crazy. I mean, if you went to, if you were in San Francisco 10 years ago and went now, you would be shocked at what's happened. And you'd also be shocked because you probably got your rental car broken into. I have to tell you. I went to San Francisco. maybe five years ago. When the Super Bowl was in San Francisco, I went.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And that was the last time. And the change that I had seen from five years before to then was stark. I can't even imagine what it's like now. And they're all in denial. The mayor said recently, like, people are saying that companies are moving out. You're like, this is the craziest part of the time that we live in. is the the blatant lying about what people can see with their own eyes. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You're like, no, they literally just put out a press release. They're shutting down the mall. They're shutting, they're taking their company. Right. People are, these conservatives are like, it's not just conservatives, by the way. It's a lot of people are seeing this. And you can label them all conservative that makes you feel better, but it's still not true. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Thank God, it is now the people who have always really kind of believed in the Bill of Rights, but you really kind of didn't need it. You know what I mean? Because it kind of worked anyway. Now you're seeing, oh, crap, all of them are being violated and this is the result. And so the honest people are coming to the table. You don't have to believe the same things I do. That's the point of the Bill of Rights.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know what I mean? Welcome to the founding of our country. Yeah, that's been something I've really been saying more and more is that you don't have to be on the right to reject the left. And some of the... They want you to believe that. They've been labeling me that for four years now, for five years or however many years since I started opening my mouth. I don't need to accept that. People, I think, get afraid because they're afraid of the labels that will be put on them.
Starting point is 00:25:54 but I do think now is the time for some courage and just saying you have to speak what you see because the minute you have been scared out of speaking what you're seeing happening, that that's, you've already lost. Yeah, it's only going to get worse. So you are kind of fascinated by the apocalypse lately. We talk about it a lot. Yeah, tell me about that. I mean, I think I've always been joking that it feels very premageddon-ish.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And I think every, I was thinking about this when I was getting ready this morning to come, just how, you know, every, there's so much nihilism and so much, like, dooms. Everybody seems like they're in a dooms day call. I feel like I joke about the apocalypse, but doesn't every generation feel that way? I mean, what did they? Did they probably thought it was the apocalypse during the Black Plague? Maybe they didn't have a word for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I think, I think the best thing is, if you lived my grandparents, my grandparents, living through the Depression and World War II and seeing that evil of the Nazis. And I don't know if they saw it as clearly as we can see it now if you care to look. but that's madness what was going on and it's the same stuff 1925 do you know the first trans surgery happened in Weimar Republic I don't know any I'm out of my depth there okay so but that guy died because the doctor just shoved a uterus in a man okay but all of these things were happening and it happens over time and it's just a slow boil to where people just lose all reason.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah. And I think if you were watching that from the outside or could see it and you weren't numb, I think you might have thought, this might be the end of the world, you know? But I, I mean, now I think it might. I'm just trying to follow this exact line of thought. Wait, are you saying the trans-suff-then led to the Nazis? No, no. I'm saying here's what, I should explain.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'm like, wait. So let me, let me, it probably should clarify. So, Weimar Republic, first Germany and World War I happened, and all the churches lost the credibility because they were like, God's on our side, we're going to win this victorious war. And it was a bloodbath. So the churches had lost their credibility because they had become political. So people aren't listening to church anymore. then the dollar or their mark starts to spiral out of control.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Youth, the 20-somethings, they become the wealthy ones because they don't have families to feed. So they could take some of their salary and invest it, okay, and make money, but everybody else had to take every dime to buy food and housing and everything else. Okay. So, and there's a shift of power to the 20-somethings, right? So then, because 20-somethings or 20-somethings, they're living a very decadent cocaine is pushed. It's amazing how much I don't know about this. Yeah, all kinds of stuff really pushed. And society begins to decay.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Then the first sexology university is founded. And it's all about LGBT. It's they're pushing trans. It's the movie cabaret. Okay. except on steroids. Okay. And then pedophilia starts to crop into the schools.
Starting point is 00:29:54 The churches see the opportunity of, aha. See, this is what happens when we don't have God. They get in on the pedophilia. Wait a minute. Everybody's doing it. No. So the churches do what churches do, well, at least a lot of them. and they don't talk about what the principles of Christ are.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Instead, they're like, our faith is the right faith, and we're going to jam it down everybody else's throat. They get people who say, our children are in jeopardy here. This madness has got to stop. They get involved. They find the Nazis who are not religious,
Starting point is 00:30:36 in fact, hate Christianity, and really anybody that won't, bow to the state. They see these S.A. guys, these stormtroopers on the streets that are, I mean, you didn't get the whole population to do Zig Heil and raise your arms
Starting point is 00:30:54 because everybody liked it. The stormtroopers would come in in the early, the late 20s and early 30s, and they would beat people sometimes to death in the streets if you didn't do that. So everybody was like, I don't want any trouble. Hile.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Okay. So that culture, they saw this and they saw them because Hitler was talking about religion and God and our decaying morals right at the very beginning. They went, maybe he'll help. The first book burnings, I didn't know this until recently. The first book burnings were the sexology books. Okay. And then everybody lost control of everything. The first people in the death camps were gays and especially trans people. They were the first to go. So when somebody LGBTQ positive, you know, who's saying like, hey, this is my movement and here's my flag, when they say you're a Nazi, they may know more about, I doubt a lot to, but they may know more about the actual history
Starting point is 00:32:02 and say Christian nationalists are very dangerous. Historically, you're right. Right. Okay. But that movement was not Christian nationalist, but they played that pivot role. Right. But isn't that the kind of current fear the left has of the backlash to a lot of this trans stuff in the country? Absolutely. And I think it's only because you're jamming it down people's throats.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You know, our biggest strength is also our Achilles heel. We're tolerant. We just want to get along. Okay. And if all of this stuff would have been introduced and not in our schools per se, and you could talk about it and debate about it, I don't think you'd be sitting on the powder keg you are. You're now forcing everyone to be involved. And that doesn't sit well, whether you're a Nazi or, you know, transgender activist. Right. It doesn't matter. When you're, you say it's my way or the highway, you're putting powder in that keg. Yeah, there, there seems to be,
Starting point is 00:33:17 it's like these two opposing forces that are extreme. And it's unsettling. And I think most people are in here. Most people are. I mean, the piece that I just dropped today, actually, was how the public lost pride, because there was, how pride lost the public, because there was this, um, Gallup that came out recently that everybody was like, look at the drop from conservatives on the support for gay marriage. I'm like, underreported, look at the Democrat drop. There was a drop.
Starting point is 00:33:51 A dip. Look at the numbers of the gay community. Yeah. I know a lot, I mean, we work with a lot of gay people. And they're like, this is nuts. This is just gone too far. Yeah, and that's what's fascinating because as I was writing this piece
Starting point is 00:34:08 and I was going down several, rabbit holes. I wanted to, and it's, I could have made this piece 10,000 words had I wanted to because there's so many, it's a confluence of so many forces at the same time that are occurring. One being that I feel a very illiberal movement has, and we see this kind of all across the board in America, just as Douglas Murray said in this piece, parasitically attached itself to gay rights in this instance. big time. And that's a very liberal equality ideal that they have,
Starting point is 00:34:45 but it was very much lit. And Andrew Sullivan contributed some brilliance to this piece. And he said it was live and let live. And now it's my way or nothing. And I think Americans are going, fine, it's nothing then. Okay. Don't make me choose between this stuff, you know, like to go back to the driver. why is let a kid be a kid why don't make me defend this and I don't want to have to fight this in our schools
Starting point is 00:35:15 and it's so insidious but then you go down the other rabbit hole and it's like why is it everywhere why is it why is pride like a national as again Douglas murray the holy month of pride how did this become something corporations I'll change their their logos unless it's Saudi Arabia unless it's their Saudi account. And you go down the rabbit hole of ESG and CEI. And you're like, this is nuts. This is social credit. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Most people can't understand it. They're just trying to raise their kids. They see this everywhere. Their daughter has three girlfriends who are now boys. They're like, what the hell is going on? And it's easy to sit down and try. try and explain, well, sit down, let me tell you about the Frankfurt School. And queer theory. Do you have several hours? Oh, and by the way, there's this thing called
Starting point is 00:36:17 ESG. Have you heard of it? Oh, no. Well, it's just this global mechanism for basically controlling liquidity. And they've got a racket that has all these massive corporations by the balls. Do you have another several hours? No, people don't. So they feel, I feel like it accelerates tribalism because it's too confusing, which is part of the point. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It's why people say, you're either with me or against me. And that's so dangerous. That's where the religious thing comes because people will say, well, I believe in God and I believe in more. morals and standards and everything else. But then it's so easily attaches itself to control exactly the way Murray was talking about. It just, it just, you have to be so careful.
Starting point is 00:37:15 We are in a moment where everybody, it's like, everybody should just have their mantra count to 10. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I do think, too, it's easy not to get caught up in it. You know, there was a part of me that was very happy to be the kind of cool gen Xer in the back of the school laughing at all of the world while it burns, which I still do enjoy by the way. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:45 But then I had a daughter and suddenly I'm like, ah, shit, I'm going to have to fight this stuff. I'm going to have to get involved. Or I'm going to have to homeschool my kid. or I, because I just wondered, I got to be a kid. You know, there was stuff in my childhood that was dysfunctional, but I didn't have this stuff in school. It wasn't the gender bred, you know, the gender, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Like, weird stuff. I didn't know. I was actually so innocent and sure, they also have the internet, which does not help. But they, there's an innocence that's being taken. and it doesn't and I don't I you know there are guys like James Lindsay who are much more I think I feel bad for him because he's he's he's kind of light years ahead of the of the game and it's it's got to be frustrating the problem and I don't mean it like this uh so let me tell how do I rephrase it the frustrating thing with James Lindsay is he is so deep yeah I mean I can talk about
Starting point is 00:38:55 things and make people's eyes gloss over quickly on, you know, ESG or whatever. But James, he's so deep into it. And he's so smart. And he's so smart. His language is a little bit Marxist at times. You know what I mean? He uses the language that a lot of Americans don't understand. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Because he's accurately describing it. You know what I mean? And names and things and you're just like, but it's all so important. Horton, but it's so complex. So insidious. That's part of the problem. It's this thing where you're, and I say this in my piece, for the spectator piece, it's like people can, they can intuit it. You know, they're like, this isn't right.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And I think a lot of parents during the pandemic were like, what are they talking? What are you learning? Excuse me, what are they talking about? Right. And you can intuit that, but then the minute you try and point to it, it kind of shape shifts or suddenly it's like you're a bigot. And nobody wants to be a bigot. Nobody wants to be a racist.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Nobody wants to be a Nazi. Back with more from Bridget Fetasy in just a second. First let me tell you about a great American business. It started out with a couple of guys and one of them was really, really talented, could make anything. He said, would you make me a belt? And one that works better than average belts, he came up with this design of this belt and he made it. And then friends started saying, hey, would you make me one? And they knew they had something.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So they started a business. Well, here's the thing. They wanted to do, if they were going to do a business, they wanted to make sure that it was all American, that it was using American products. It was all sourced here in America, American labor doing it. And now they've expanded. They've wallets, really great, different wallets, and really great socks. This American business pays American ranchers to raise. specially bred sheep for the wool.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Then another American company goes through the wool and gets it ready and makes it into the thread. And then another company here in America weaves the socks. American made products done right by American labor. Grip6.com slash Beck. That's grip6.com slash Beck. Talk to me about the difference between you three years. years ago and you as a mom. Well, I've been radicalized.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Oh, let's talk about extremism. I've been fully radicalized. Because you're a mom. Well, yeah, there's certain, and because I love America. And I was the person that was the 20-something imperialist America. I mean, for lack of a better, phrase and I apologize for using this I'm kind of recovering libtard I should write a 12th 12 step program you know admit that your lib tart and your life has become miserable um and it it is
Starting point is 00:42:12 and that's okay it's okay to be I was idealistic it's okay to question some of our country's decisions we should we should absolutely be involved we've done horrible things we've done horrible horrible things and and i want to fix them i want to i would just like us to have a serious conversation just a checklist what did we do okay is it still being done okay done let's bold this out let's never do that again you know what i mean yeah just deal with the things we're we're still doing horrible horrible things and we're talking about what yeah yeah we can't heal unless we actually look at the real things rationally, make sure they're fixed and move on to the next. I think, too, living in a city where I saw, I couldn't look around.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That was the benefit of being in California. It's a unit party. I couldn't look around and blame conservatives for the, you know, city falling apart. I could only blame the people that were being elected and it was blue all the way down. So, but how come more people don't see that in California? Again, I think there is, I had a friend who said something that really stuck out to me that the true and only guiding ideology in America is but the right. There's this like, you know, there's this going on and this going on.
Starting point is 00:43:41 If you're a conservative, you probably have to shy your mouth and not really express your opinions at work or around your friends because, and you see that disparity and don't. think, oh, maybe one side has a lot more power than the right. But again, I don't think guys like Trump, which will probably piss off many of your people in your audience, but I don't think it does people any favors because I do know a lot of particularly like boomers who have seen what's going on. They're like, this is nuts. And Trump is too much of just a narcissistic, loose canon for them to feel safe kind of saying okay we need to push back against some of this crazy in our own party um and and get look at the state that it's in you have fetterman announcing
Starting point is 00:44:34 by it's just like we're supposed to just take our sugar and eat it that's what we're supposed to just be like oh this is we're all the dog in the in the meme drinking coffee like this is fine right and And I think someone, I know a lot of them have said, you know, I'd kind of in hushed shameful tones, like I'd vote for DeSantis, you know, somebody who seems younger, disciplined. Somebody who, this is, I think, a large part why Biden won is because there were a lot of Americans that just said, I want to return to normalcy. I know times are changing everything. just can we turn everything down?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Then there were the food shortages. And we've we've turned it up. Yeah. And I'm interested to see who is going to win the nomination because I think the Democrats are making it more likely that he's the nominee by Biden or Trump. Of course they would love that. Yeah, they would love that. Because they know exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Which is that there are a lot of died in the wool Democrats who have had it with them. But there's a lot of Republicans who are saying the same thing. We just want sanity. Yeah. But when you push a society so far. Not an 80-year-old madman with a revenge mission. Yeah, that wouldn't be good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I can't say that I know what would be good. I do, or bad because everything is so crazy, but I would like to, you know, people are like, can we get the boomers? I'm like, these guys aren't even boomers. They're silent generation. Can we maybe just get a boomer? Can we, can we, I have, you know, nothing against people who are old. I just think you should be enjoying your grandchildren and not running a, have you seen, quite a mistake corporation. Same thing. Same thing. Have you seen Vivek Rameshwamy?
Starting point is 00:46:45 Oh, yes. What a press of fresh air. I'm like, yeah, somebody like that would be great. Yeah. It would be great. I don't know if he even has a chance to even be on the debate stage. But that's the kind of guy and attitude. And someone who under, you really think that Biden is tweeting his own stuff?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. I mean, Donald Trump is. Joe Biden, I bet hasn't even used an iPhone, you know, necessarily himself. We are in a different world. It is time for people. And I say this is a guy who's, gosh, almost 60. Okay? We've had a good run.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And especially, I think my age, I'm the last year of the boomers. And I don't really relate to the boomers. Yeah. And I'm the last year of the boomers. And I feel like I've dealt with these hippies long enough. And I feel like saying, dude, you screwed everything up. And we had to pay for a lot of that back in the 60s, my generation. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And we were the latch kid, you know, generation. And now you are the exact opposite of what you said. was right. It's time for you to let go and let someone else deal with it. They talk about how the declaration and constitution just isn't. It wasn't written for this era. And you were? Yeah. I mean, you were a teenager when? 1946, 1951? Come on. Yeah. It definitely shows me, too, just how hard power is to let go of when you have it. matter who you are. And what's weird, it's not even who you are. Like you look at, what's her name Feinstein? She doesn't even know who she is. It's the institution that just wants the body.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You know, Federman? I feel so bad for him. I know. So bad for him. It's so, and that's the problem is that it pulls on all this, you're like, I feel bad for this person. I don't want to, and I feel like everyone has a right to demand that their leaders be competent, but those norms were shredded, and I'm not exactly sure. I do think, though, I would prefer as much as it absolutely pains me to say this, Gavin versus Ron, just because at least it would be, I feel, accurate representations of both sides. Both sides. And what we're actually trying to confront. I agree. Someone needs to push Biden when he says I'm pro gender affirming care.
Starting point is 00:49:42 People need to push these people to define what that is. Tell me, what does that mean, sir? Mr. President, what exactly is gender affirming care? Can you describe it to me? Do you even know what it is? Do you know what you're supporting? Do you know where you are? Do you know your name?
Starting point is 00:50:03 But you can't get that. Nobody, the press, it's so either evil and they know it or they're the dumbest people alive or they're just trapped and feel like I can't. Yeah, I mean, I feel like a lot of people feel trapped. I was saying this just on Twitter yesterday. There was that woman, I think her name was Robinson and she was talking and some hearing about how. how she read an article in NPR about, you know, this is why it's not a big deal that biological men should be competing against women. And I'm like, have, where are the female athletes? I understand that it's a culture of, you know, just suck it up and like you take your loss.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But this is not fundamentally not fair. And you are going to lose, I would say joking. I'm like, I hope these women who don't speak up lose their job to a mediocre male. because you didn't say anything. And if you don't, you're going to cost another woman her spot. Do you see the activist in Congress yesterday talking about Serena Williams and saying there is no difference, no difference between a man and woman. I'm talking about. I think her name was Robbins.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I can't remember her name. Yeah. And wait, there's no difference. Serene Williams, when she was good, was beaten by the 207th ranking man at tennis. you can't tell me that a man can be imposing and can hold a woman and rape her and do and do whatever because a woman doesn't have the strength, which is all true on some men. I mean, you could beat the snot out of me, but you know what I mean? Generally speaking, we have more muscle.
Starting point is 00:51:55 We are bigger. So to say that there's no difference is ridiculous. It is interesting too because it's talking out of two sides of your mouth at the same time. So how do you explain rape culture, for example? Right. If this is true, this can't be true. It must not be, it must not exist. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:16 If there's no biological difference between men and women, why does this happen? Women should just be able to fight back. Correct. It's insane. And people are afraid. I think people feel trapped. I think they're afraid. know, Douglas Murray said, I wish I could have just posted the transcriptions of every person that
Starting point is 00:52:37 I interviewed because they were all so brilliant trying to put it into one article felt impossible. But Douglas was saying that he felt that the reason, because the UK is actually quite ahead on this, and he said it's because somebody like J.K. Rowling, who is massively huge, spoke out very early against this and that we are behind, to someone like Oprah hasn't stood up and been like, hey, women should have their spaces. You know, it's really interesting being over there. J.K. Rowling is, I mean, there are Harry Potter things everywhere.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, she's huge. Everywhere. She is gigantic. Yeah. Going to Oxford, they have made one of the gargoyles, one of the figures in Harry Potter's. She has an honorary doctorate at Oxford. And I'm trying to piece this together. You have somebody that popular.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Oprah doesn't have anything in any college, you know, reflecting on a gargoyle, anything she's ever done. You have a society that is monetarily really benefiting from her work. She's deep into the culture. And they've just destroyed her. Just destroyed her. I know. And all she's doing is defending women.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You know, it's just like... And you're not defending women. If you're standing up and saying the truth, all of a sudden, wait, I don't... How do you even make that logic work? I'm not sure. Again, I feel like it's just something that's kind of cool and there's something young people are, they feel purpose being a part of this movement or whatever. And I, I'm not, I don't know, I, I talk to the women's liberation front, the women who are fighting for the, they're pushing
Starting point is 00:54:42 the lawsuit against the California corrections for men in women's prisons. And this is the kind of stuff people need to be pushed to say on record. You agree with, oh, you're for gender affirming care for minors you agree with putting them on puberty blockers you agree with pausing their development development which we know is not a pause we know that now you uh even though all most of the european um countries are backtracking west not canada is special going full stream steam ahead can nuts but you look at all of the places we were told we should be more like france sweden sweden norway all of those are going to on whoa, slow down.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Reverse course. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. And this is the people who are always like, ah, these anti-scientific idiots who are, it's maddening. But I do, my kind of white pill, as Michael Malice would say, is that more and more people do seem to be kind of reaching their limit.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I mean, I wrote a piece probably four or five years ago being like, you can't just shame people into voting the way that you want because you say they're a bigot or they're racist because of whatever your your idea about things is and you want them to vote away. And yesterday, Kat Rosenfeld wrote this piece for the Boston Globe about how progressives are minting conservatives. And I'm like, yeah, I said this four years ago. And now it's even crazier. Now that was when you were, that was pre all of this, like, even more insane stuff and post-COVID, which was also insane. I, a couple of years ago, met the people at Jace Medical, and I started talking about the Jace case.
Starting point is 00:56:42 The Jace case holds five of the most important antibiotics for emergency use. Well, at the time when I first met them, I said, you know, I'm a prepper. And they said, so are we. And I said, prescription drugs. I mean, heart medicine, high blood pressure, psychiatric medicine. What is going to happen if we have a disruption in the supply chain for those people who have to have that medicine? And they just sat back in their chairs and smiled and said, see, that's why we knew we needed to talk to you. We're working on it.
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Starting point is 00:57:54 Jacemedical.com. Go there now, enter the promo code Beck for a discount on your order. It's promo code Beck at J-A-S-E-medical.com. What do you think of RFK? Yeah, he's interesting. You know, I think he's, he's in, again, this is the state of the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:58:16 that he's like, kind of people are just so thirsty. And I do. think Stephen Miller, not the Stephen Miller who worked for Trump, Stephen Miller, who's the writer, he was saying that he kind of gives permission to a lot of people on the left who were vaccine skeptics, for example, and just were very happy to let everybody say, oh, it's those MAGA people who don't want the vaccine. I'm like, you know how many people I knew in LA who didn't get the vaccine quietly and just were for. fine having everyone think it was like, oh, those, those hicks over there didn't get the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And he was saying the same thing. The original kind of anti-vax community was like in the palisades. You know, these are the hippie granola moms. And so there was a lot of people and a lot of people in the black community, rightfully, did not want to get the vaccine. And the press never really. Why? Is there any kind of history with that? What are you talking about? Press never had to really address that. They could ignore that and focus on. And so I think RFK is pointing out and giving permission to a faction of the left that has not been able to speak up because they didn't really have a representative. So I know conservatives who like him because he is, and it's so strange, the left was right about the United States turning into one giant,
Starting point is 00:59:50 corporation and in business with big business. The right said, that'll never happen. I trust company. We were dumb as a box of rocks. Got that one wrong. Got that one wrong. Kind of a big one. Slippery slope.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah. But the things that you were right on, the left is now being the champion. Yeah, no, that's the other crazy thing. I mean, big pharma. Endless war. Endless war. And he said this when he was on Rogan, which you can't even post those clips on YouTube without getting your channel demonetized.
Starting point is 01:00:27 We'll put that in the bucket of other terrifying things that we would need an entirely separate episode for. But that's what he represents. That, the silencing of this conversation, the ability to even have the dialogue, the ability to ask the questions. He has a little bit of what the Democrats are doing to Trump. They're also kind of doing it to him. They're not as severe, but they're silencing him. And people are hungry for anyone who will stand up and say, this is wrong. He's saying, for instance, I always trusted the FBI and CIA.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Oh, my. Have they always been this way? How did I not see that? Okay. But now everybody on the left is like, oh, they're great. I love them. I love the FBI. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:01:27 As somebody who's gen X, it's very disorienting. Oh, I bet it is. Because it was all of the things that I was, when I was in my kind of recovering, you know, when I was in my full lib tardation, I, that was all the stuff I was fighting against. Right. Wars and other countries. So what happened? Big pharma.
Starting point is 01:01:47 What happened? It's so weird. From 2000, the year 2000, I am not the same man that I was. I still am, I hate to say, the label conservative, I don't think means anything anymore. I am a constitutional Bill of Rights American, okay? I'm, you agree with me on that? We don't have any arguments, okay, that are severe that we can't work through. But I would make the, you know, well, this war is important and this is important.
Starting point is 01:02:19 and well, the FBI probably was just isolated. All that crap has been proven wrong. Right. And so many conservatives are there. And you have a chance of actually changing and doing the things that the liberals, who are actual Bill of Rights liberals who are saying, this is wrong what we're doing. We have a chance to change.
Starting point is 01:02:49 it. But, and maybe it goes back to the first thing you say, but the right, that they just will not see that, I'm not talking about the GOP. I'm talking about common sense people that are like, no, there's a problem here. And shame on me for being so stupid. Good for you. You got it right. Now, did we get anything right that you're starting to discover? You know, it's the same eye open.
Starting point is 01:03:19 on it's just and it's almost on the same things we're coming you're coming our way on some things i'm coming your way on some things and those some things are the important principles yeah and can we meet in the middle with health care please anyone anyone i feel like can anyone address this problem anyone no we fixed it obamacare fixed it i mean that was little bit jarring coming from California to Texas. It's definitely better in California. Because as somebody who is an independent, I can't get, I don't think I can get a private PPO as an individual here.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I could be mistaken, or it's just way too expensive for me. I have to be employed by someone. There are groups who can get involved in. And so then I had to get an HMO and I haven't had an HMO in a long time. and my gosh, how does, it was very eye-opening how people, there are two classes, well, probably three classes of care in the United States for health care. And it was, I.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's bad. Yeah, it's not good. No, it's got, and it's gotten much, much worse, much more controlled. It's, you know, when I moved from New York, because I, you know, the company was mine and I had a responsibility, I couldn't carry the same insurance across from New York to, Why?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Right. Why? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. I don't know. Money and payoffs from politicians. Yeah, I mean, this is so much of the problem. It really is.
Starting point is 01:05:00 So now that you are a little apocalyptic, but yet a mom. Yeah. And so you're more grounded. I'm actually more optimistic, weirdly, too. Why? Because that was really the kind of epiphany. had when I was getting ready this morning. Just all men are presented with whatever humanity is dealing with in their time and they have to deal with it. And this is this is what I'm presented
Starting point is 01:05:30 with. And my job is to prepare my daughter to handle whatever, whatever is presented to her in the best way that she can. And pray that, you know, she has a good head on her shoulders and she knows that she's loved and that but there's a lot that I I'm an old parent so I'm a hyper aware of the fact that I won't be around probably as long as I'd like to be in her life and see and so I have to trust that she will be okay you know I that is that's my job even not in these times you'll go through that as a parent still better than ever So it's still, even though I can look at the horizon and say, oh, this could really go off the rails. And this is kind of what Tim Urban and I were discussing.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Is it going to be she's going to Mars? Is it going to be she's enslaved by robots? Will it be she, the grid has gone down and she's growing food? Or will it be just a little bit more of where we are and and. A little better, a little worse, whatever. Yeah. I'm not sure. And I am optimistic seeing how resilient kids are, just how smart they are, how creative they naturally are.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And they tap, she just forces me to come into the president. It's easy to get spun out and all this stuff. I've been watching the Arnold documentary, which is very interesting. And again, as a 90s kid, I had to watch this. But he was talking about his Nazi father, who had one expression that really stuck with him, which was be useful. And I think about that a lot. You know, I wake up and I try to food prep or be useful.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And I do think there might be a crisis of usefulness in our country because people are, they're not doing things. They're going online and like working themselves up into a lather over these ridiculous, like, the dumb think pieces and and not having enough really nuanced conversations. That's why all the people in the piece about pride that I wrote, they're gays and lesbians and trans men and women. And they have to live with the consequences of this backlash we're seeing, which is why I wanted to reach out to them,
Starting point is 01:08:07 but they're also critical of gender ideology. So they represent, I think, where most people fall. And they're the people we should be listening to, the Glenn Greenwald's and Douglas Murray, about this topic in particular, Andrew Doyle. And they get the kind of least amount of airtime because we just hear from the activists on either side who are riling each other up. But I don't, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. That's one of the most, I think, inspiring things that I've seen in my lifetime is that, that the going to just the the transition we've had for lack of a better word around gay marriage and gay rights and gay people in the world it's miraculous and in a very short time and now
Starting point is 01:09:04 and this is where I kind of we were joking on dumpster fire and I'm sure it'll get you know cut and taken out of context but we were like maybe you're right about the slippery song and I It's not necessarily true, but it is because this other thing is piggybacked like a Trojan horse into it, although my husband would say that's what they were afraid of, though. Yes, right. I had a conversation with my daughter. She was at Fordham. She wouldn't talk to me for a while because they had her so ratcheted up that I was anti-gay. And I'm like, I'm a libertarian on this.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I don't really care. I don't think the government has anything to do with anybody. don't tell me how to live. I won't tell you how to live. Don't tell me what my church has to do, and I won't tell you what your church has to do. Leave it be. Let people follow themselves.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And she just, she wouldn't even, she got so, and I said, honey, the reason why I speak out about this is because of the slit. And she cut me off. And I'm like, and I know. And I said, it's not that this will lead to this and this will lead to this.
Starting point is 01:10:19 You don't understand the people that are truly pushing with money behind this. You get that. Are they all going to quit their job because they've got what they wanted? I mean, yeah, that's another thing we covered in this article is just that NGOs need a job. but then there's also just this insidious part of all of these theories that is all just destruction. Yeah. It's just deconstruct everything. And I'm not smart enough or I'm, it's there's something sinister.
Starting point is 01:11:03 You know, it feels sinister. And I hate saying that because I don't want to be an extremist. I don't. I try so hard to be. nuanced and and see where everybody's coming from. And then I see activists screaming in people's faces. And, you know, and I don't want, like, conservative people having to, like,
Starting point is 01:11:25 check children's genitals before they play soccer, you know? That's crazy, too. Right. Here's the thing. I said to James Lindsay, last time I talked to him, I think. I said, James, you know, the first time I ever met you, you were an atheist, full-fledged.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And I said, I don't really know where you stand now. He's had some really good experiences, some really bad experiences. I said, but I swore off the word evil about 2011. Because it was, it's a very powerful word. It feels hyperbolic. You know? And I said, however, if I were to define evil, I would define it as a destructive force that destroys everything and makes people slaves to thoughts or physical slaves. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah. Anything that tells you, you can't do it. You won't survive without. Anything that does that. I think is evil. And he agreed with me. Yeah. I hear this a lot.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And I have that same resistance, like being raised Catholic and feeling kind of, you're like, evil, is it evil? And then it gets thrown around and you see it online. And there's lots of hyperbole. And then I don't know. You know, again, I go back to the Arnold documentary, which he kind of brushes over, but it made me really think about. his talking about his father, how he could be very, you know, hard on them and also seemed to be
Starting point is 01:13:11 an alcoholic. And all of these broken men in Austria who basically got behind this ideology and were believers and were just demolished and demoralized and what his town was like with all these people. And, you know, there will, there seems to be, I can't help but feel that way. about a lot of the stuff I see now that people are kind of co-signing. And I think Blair White has said this where she says, you know, a lot of people are going to pretend they were never on board with this. Oh, yeah. They're just going to act like, that's why I say,
Starting point is 01:13:50 when people are saying this and they're public figures, you need to push them to say it on record to say what exactly this stuff means and what they're advocating for. Because, so you're advocating for biological men and women. prisons and shelters and locker rooms. And that was the other thing. I was looking to my daughter and I'm like, I don't want,
Starting point is 01:14:15 I don't want these, I don't want her to have to worry. Worry. I was so uncomfortable when I was a young girl going through puberty to the thought of having boys in there. Yeah. You're just like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:31 I know. And this is supposed to, again, people are supposed, and then there's like this whole weird, because we live in. such a raging narcissistic time. There's this whole culture of people where it's like cool to be a parent of one of these kids. And this is where I say, because I had an internal
Starting point is 01:14:51 debate, you know, like should this state be saying you can't get this care for your child if you feel that's right for your child? And then I see these moms on Instagram. I'm like, Nope. Shut up down. By the way, you brought up Eleanor Schwarzenegger's dad who was a Nazi. Twice now. Nazi.
Starting point is 01:15:13 But let me just say this. You said his phrase was, be useful. Be useful. I think that's fantastic. I don't think you should say it came from Arnold Schwarzenegger's dad. The country that was like,
Starting point is 01:15:29 useless eaters. Let's kill them all. I mean, part of it is kind of like, whatever you do, be useful, because this will come back again. I know, I don't know how to, I hate like, I was like, I don't even know how to explain this. No, I know. Because I was going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger's dad, but then if I neglect to mention that he's a not true. Just say it's yours. I'm not going to say it's, I hate, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:55 It's my mantra. It's my, you know what? My mantra is just keep going, which. Very good. Which is mine. But, you know, I don't like stealing things from people. And I, I don't, but you're right. I probably shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:16:07 No, but I think it's a profound, the way you said it, it is a profound statement because people are not being useful, useful, you know. But then the Nazi thing just kept going in my head. I know, I know. I had this whole thing. I was waiting about it. And this is a thing you like tiptoe. And this is what I hate about the, the,
Starting point is 01:16:30 the modern culture is that I'm hyper aware of like, oh, that's going to get clipped. And here's Bridget saying, like, be useful like a Nazi, which is not what I'm saying. I know, I know. You just have to let go. And then I was thinking, like, it led me down this other weird rabbit hole. Like, are you still considered the greatest generation of you were a Nazi? I mean, you're the greatest generation on the winning side. Only the winners were the greatest generation.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Right? Yeah. That's what I came down to. Yeah. And I was thinking, too, just about how much this must have affected his, like, Arnold's psyche and why he loves American might and he's so, you know, doesn't want to lose. It's really fascinating. Yeah, he's an amazing guy.
Starting point is 01:17:19 It's an amazing story. Amazing. And, yeah, you're probably right now. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. We'll talk again. Thank you for having me. Especially now that you're in Texas.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah. Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.

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