The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 234 | 'Yellowstone' Star’s Fight to Make America ‘Cowboy’ Again | Forrie J. Smith | The Glenn Beck Podcast 

Episode Date: November 2, 2024

Do you know why a cowboy takes his hat off before dinner? Forrie J. Smith from "Yellowstone" says it’s all part of the “cowboy culture.” In this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast," Forrie recou...nts his career — from cowboy to stuntman to beloved actor — and that one time he had to track down “illegals” wreaking havoc on his ranch at the U.S.-Mexico border. He and Glenn discuss the decline in American beef, how social media has created political silos, and the transgender agenda being pushed on America’s youth in public schools. “When you start messing with my children ... with my animals, you crossed a line,” Forrie says, which is why he isn’t afraid to ask the questions that make most actors' knees buckle. Will the 2024 election be secure? What will be done with all the fentanyl flowing across our open border? Forrie isn’t worried about what the rich and powerful think. As he says, they’ll come looking for him when disaster strikes because he can “survive with a knife.” With all his success, he’s most proud that everywhere he’s lived he’s been called a “good neighbor,” even by that one neighbor with “different politics,” who wants to relocate the rattlesnakes in the front yard when Forrie would rather just shoot them.  Forrie is an ambassador for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation: https://specialops.org/    Sponsors  Relief Factor  Relief Factor can help you live pain-free! Visit https://www.relieffactor.com/ or call 800-4-RELIEF to save on your first order.     Better Spectacles        Go to https://BetterSpectacles.com/BECK and get your Rodenstock biometric intelligence glasses for 61% off.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:14 The voice that we love that we love. And now, a Blaze Media podcast. I want you to close your eyes for a second and think about America and the image that comes to mind. America. Maybe you think of our flag, fireworks, Fourth of July, burgers, fries. I mean, that comes to mind without anybody saying America. To me, an awful lot. But when you really think about America, I think mountains, I think west, I think cowboys.
Starting point is 00:00:48 The image of a cowboy perfectly captures the American spirit. It's a man taming the land. the West, working with the environment and with God, just carving a path through life, taming the animal, loving the animal, working with the animal, hardworking, godly, adventurous, sometimes bar-fighting, but it's America. the cowboy is a man who believes in justice and family has a healthy dose of, you know, kind of rowdy independence, but also is a man of his word.
Starting point is 00:01:34 The cowboy contract is a handshake looking a man in the eye saying, I give my word. The American cowboy, a free man. Today I'm going to talk to a real cowboy. I mean, he plays one on TV, but he is, He is that guy. He has been his whole life. You'll know him as Lloyd Pierce, the oldest ranch hand on the fictional Yellowstone Dutton Ranch.
Starting point is 00:02:04 But today, I want you to meet the man behind the role to find out why he is speaking up on issues that matter most to him, America, needing more cowboys. Welcome to the podcast from the smash hit television show Yellowstone, actor and action. actual American cowboy, For E.J. Smith. Let me tell you for 60 seconds about relief factor. You can try to deal with the aches and pains in your bodies and life. Sometimes it gets really, really bad. Some of the most popular stuff for bad pain just masks it. And going about your day as if nothing is going on and you're all in a fog.
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Starting point is 00:04:02 oner. I feel like I should call you Lloyd but I know your Corey
Starting point is 00:04:23 but I feel like I know you um how much how much how much fory is in Lloyd and how much
Starting point is 00:04:34 Lloyd is in Fory wow That's a good question. I met Taylor on Hell or High Water. It's working as a wrangler. I was the head wrangler on that. And I had horses and cows and my dogs and everything on that.
Starting point is 00:04:51 He told me after, I had some issues. I had to get in the first AD's face, poked him in the chest. I had the guy that hired me, the livestock coordinator, moved my truck and trailer. I didn't know who it was. I rode up, my rope team, pulled him head out the door.
Starting point is 00:05:10 You don't move my truck and trailer and reached in, took the keys out. Right. And rode back over next to Taylor, and here he come. And he's like, he won't be here tomorrow. He's run off. I'll run him off. He'll be gone tomorrow. And he couldn't do it. I had half a dozen horses, 30 head of cows, 10 head of burrows, you know, all leased,
Starting point is 00:05:33 and under my name on the movie. you know there's no way he could and uh but oh it's really cool and i knew that me and taylor with that he leaned over that my my horse and looked the guy in the eye and goes try and go move my truck and see what happens asshole yeah but you are i mean he told me later he says yeah i'm writing a modern been contracted to do a mod right a modern western and you're going to be in it wow Wow. I said, yeah, I've heard that BS before. This is not from me, though, you have. And I'll tell you what, Taylor Sheridan's been a man of his word for me.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's cool. You are a, I mean, you're a real cowboy. I mean, you can tell about the hat, first of all. Yeah. Cool hat. Thank you. I should take it off, proper etiquette for me to take it off while we're doing this interview. You'll wear it if you want.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Well, that's the way I was raised. Yeah. There is cowboy etiquette, real cowboy etiquette. Yeah. I didn't know that about the hat. I'm going to have to remember. I know you wouldn't eat, you wouldn't have it off. At a dinner table you wouldn't wear it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 No, you take it off in honor of your meal and to show respect to the people that are feeding you that day. Yeah. Why are cowboy movies making a comeback right now? I think there's something about the cowboy, that is so American. Yeah, we're the only country. This is where cowboy came from.
Starting point is 00:07:11 The term cowboy originated in Texas during the Civil War. The older men would leave to go off to fight the war. So even if you were a girl of the family, if it was your responsibility to ride the sections and keep track of your cattle, you were called the cowboy of the family, and that was an honor.
Starting point is 00:07:33 When you went to town, I'm the cowboy, the family. So, yeah, it's original. Right here, in America, there's no, this is where it originated. Now, we had the Vicaros from Mexico, and a lot of our culture is derived from them. What is the culture? What is the culture of a cowboy? Rodeos originated. They were having Rodeos in Southern California,
Starting point is 00:08:02 before. So it is rodeo? Before we were even in the United States. Really? Yes. The cowboy culture is Wait, wait, wait. I don't we get this right because rodeo drive. We always joke about we're going to the rodeo. Right. Is that the Spanish version of rodeo? Yes. Rodo means roundup. Roundup. Yeah. And they would have roundups, and then they would have roping and buck and horse riding contest and stuff. Chief Rojas, I've read all of his books, and he explains it in there. They were bronch riders, them guys. You know, I just love, I think his name is Bill Pickett. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I love his stories. Yeah, they're great. He's fantastic. He's fantastic. So you were going into the cowboy culture. What is it? Um, how do I explain that route?
Starting point is 00:09:06 I was 16 years old. He's on the JV basketball team and we didn't get to practice until after Varsity got to practice. So I'd have time to go home after school and feed the cows and then go back to basketball practice. My granddad had broke his hip and he'd just come, he said, hey kid, I think I can drive the truck for you. Usually what I'd do is I'd put it in compound and put a two by four against the gas pedal and then get in the back and throw the hay out. And it's quite a ride because you got all them frozen cow turds out there that trucks bouncing over. So yeah, I was grateful to have him come out and drive the truck for me. And when we got done, he says, I have time to look
Starting point is 00:09:53 of my cows kid i said yes sir we're driving around through the cows and he says you know we're not gonna make i'm not even gonna break even this year maybe at i think we cows were selling for 35 cents a pound then or calves yeah and uh he said if i could get 39 cents a pound i could i could break even i got he says my kids out here busting his butt and you know he's just this is ridiculous i said why are we doing it granddad he looks like me, well, son, we're helping feed America. We're helping feed our country. And that's kind of the cowboy culture right there.
Starting point is 00:10:35 There's a bigger thing than what we're doing out here today. You know, we're helping feed our country. We're maintaining the grass and rotating our pastures to keep everything right. It drives me nuts that these. greenies, come in and try to lecture people who are farmers and who are ranchers. They care more about the land than anybody in any city that has, you know, has some Ph.D. On how to take care. I mean, they care about the land.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They take care of the land. The worst neighbor I have is the Bureau of Land Management. They're horrible. Horrible. I've dealt with them. I was on a ranch in southern Arizona. I left Hollywood and I went back to Cowboy. I'd went and the BLM guy come over.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He was going to find me for overgrazing this one pasture. And I said, well, I tell you what, part, you come back after the monsoons. And if that pasture doesn't come back better than it ever has been, you can find out, you can go ahead and find me. And I said, you go tell my boss what I said and everything. What I'd done was I'd put them cows in there and they'd ate off all the weeds in the spring.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And so then when the monsoons did come, the weeds were all gone. It looked like a golf course out there. And I said, yeah, that leaving 50, 60 percent, that leaves the weeds. And I says, we need to graze it down to 20, 25% like I did.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And then it comes back, the grass comes back. And I'd learn that from working at the Empire Ranch, McDonnellson. He's a great man for the land and taking, he's one I learned rotations from.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And yeah, yeah, it's just nuts that they don't think we're taking the best care of the land. Another thing, Glenn, that really gets me, is the cow farts. And the cow manure. We used to have 60 million buffalo and no telling how many elk running across the plains.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And they were farting animals. Bigger farting animals. Yeah. And now people are, yeah, it's, well. Can you explain this? I mean, I don't know if you would have any. I can give you a theory. I don't know if I can explain it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I live down the street. It's probably like 20 miles away. Down the street from a guy who has a huge buffalo ranch, has about 5,000 buffalo. The most amazing thing you can see is them coming over the hill. Yeah. And you can see how much of them are beefalo as they look more and more like cows and how much really are bison, you know, are close to bison.
Starting point is 00:13:48 There are no pure bison except in Yellowstone. And it's my understanding that they sometimes thin the herd and they just kill them. Instead of giving them to ranches so we can have pure-bred buffalo. The only pure buffalo or bison is owned by the government. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. Oh, my gosh. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 He told me that and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And he's like, we beg, we beg for the bison. They slaughter them and bury them. Oh, all these people going hungry. It's about one of the best meats you can eat. Oh, it's so good. So good for you. And good for you.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people don't know this. Coriante and Longhorn are the most healthiest beef you can eat. The low in cholesterol and, you know, the Longhorn. Yeah. That's where it all comes. from was a longhorn yeah um and then buffalo it's yeah i i just there's so much waste in this country um like it's right there um my cousin oklahoma he's got 80 acres the pigs are taking over hogs
Starting point is 00:15:13 and i said wild the boars yeah well they've intermixed and yeah yeah and uh she'll go down there and have us a hog killing yeah whenever whenever whenever you're ready i said Yeah, well, we'll wait till after the freeze where we can donate the meat, you know. And I see all these road kill. There's a lot of good, like especially around Ria Dosa, New Mexico, there's elk and deer all the time on the side of the road. We have, we have deer kills all the time. And when I first moved up into the mountains with real people, not city people, you know, somebody hits a deer. Boom.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They put it back in the back of their truck and, you know, eat it, not just push it off to the side. Bleed it out. Yeah. I was, we had two cows hit on the county road, Montana's open range, like New Mexico and Arizona's and Arizona, so meaning if you don't want cows on your property that you've got to put a fence up and fence them out. Right. And so granddad, we got two dead cows. he got the driver and they have had to pay and everything but he called the two teeth crow family
Starting point is 00:16:29 in the hell in the valley they came up there and the only thing left to them two cows was the gut pile um the manure pile and blood stains and we later on had some killed on the railroad and of course it's up to the railroad to keep their fences up so they had to pay granddad for them cows but again he called the two teeth and they come up there and uh you know them cows had been dead for oh probably 12 hours they didn't care they'd come bled them and they took everything wow and uh it's so that's the way i was raised and i was raised one of the reasons i think uh i'm so healthy in my older age i got a good lady that's on top of it yeah yeah But I was raised on a garden about the only canned things we ate were McNally's chili and canned peaches.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Everything else was out of the garden. All our meat was either wild or off the ranch. I think we have really screwed our food up. Oh, man. Yeah. And it's like 30% of our beef now comes out of Brazil. I know. We don't know what it's been done to it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know, what did they inject in it before it got butchered? Right. How are they butchering it? We have no clue. I know. I don't know why we can't get, what do they call, where it's signed and say, this is USA raised. Yeah. Well, they have the little flag that says product of USA.
Starting point is 00:18:15 That doesn't, that's not it. That means it was, it was. Butchered or packaged here. In the USA. Yes. It doesn't mean it's USA beef. No. And why are we having to go to Brazil to buy beef?
Starting point is 00:18:31 I mean, our ranchers, I think it's, the biggest mafia I've ever seen are the meat packing plants. Yep. The, what, three or four companies? Yep. They're absolutely. They're mobsters. They're mobsters. And they rip our farmers off like crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Well. And at the same time, they're the ones making the first. fake meat. Yeah. Yeah, and it's making people sick, giving people issues. But you want to talk about mobsters. How about, I can't remember the company's name that the oil companies and car companies came all together and made this company that went around and bought all the
Starting point is 00:19:15 trollies in L.A. It was GM. It was GM and Goodyear. Yeah. But what was the name? They formed a company. Oh, I don't know. It was a different company.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And later on, years later, this is like 57. Yeah. They do away with all the trolley systems. And now they got big stink or buses that nobody wants to ride on because they're crowded. So they go out and buy cars. That's what they wanted. They want them to buy cars. So they'd be buying cars and gas.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And tires. In tires. Yeah. Yeah. We had the best city transportation ever, all the street cars all over America. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they weren't selling cars.
Starting point is 00:20:04 They weren't selling tires. They weren't selling gas. So those companies went together and bought them out. Now, that's kind of mobster. Oh, yeah. I know. It is. So we have, I mean, we started with the cowboy culture.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I think, and I'd love your point of view on this. I think America has so lost its way on your word is your bond, your handshake, you know, cowboy, your handshake is a contract. Just tell the truth. Don't bull crap me. Just tell me the truth. Working together, when we bought our farm in Idaho, We brought the kids out. And I was living in New York at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And I realized I hadn't seen anything but man-made stuff. I couldn't. You're in New York City. You're not seeing the stars. You can't see them. And if you don't see the stars, you don't sit there and go, man, are we small? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And so we bought a farm so we can move out and have the kids, you know, grow up. And I grew up on my grandma and grandpa's farm. in the summertime. Where was that? It was in Puyallup, Washington. Oh, nice place. Yeah. Or it used to be.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah, used to be. Used to be. And at the time, I only just wanted to get away. It was a big city kid. You know, I just want to live in the big city. Now, I get my right arm to get away from even this city and live full time out in the middle of nowhere. because common sense comes back and also caring about your neighbor. And not just because you have to, because if you're farmers,
Starting point is 00:22:03 you could be the best farmer, but you're going to have a bad year and they'll have a good year and they're going to help you. And you better help them because at some point it's going to be you that needs help. And then the fact that you can be the best, but God is required. When we moved away and we moved into the cities, all of that was lost. And I think that's what is plaguing us. And I think that's why cowboys are making a comeback. Because it represents America.
Starting point is 00:22:35 America. True America. Yeah. Marx and Hitler both, if they knew that if they control the children, and they control the future. And that people that had no faith are easier to bend. And my grandmother taught me,
Starting point is 00:22:59 my cousins were Catholic, and we go to the Catholic church with them and midnight mass and stuff at Christmas. And they're all getting baptized. And I said, Grandma, should I get baptized? She goes, no, it's up to you. And I said, well, what religion? She goes, I'm not, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I'm not of any denomination. I said, well, how come, grandma? She says there's too much blood been spilt between these denominations. And I don't feel that that's a godly way. But I do know there is a supreme power that there is something else going on in this world and that you need to acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And I think it's easier for cowboys and ranchers and farmers that see it every day. Every day. You know, you see the miracle of birth and death and the miracle of things growing. Just how it all works together. You realize that and the beauty of a sunset, you know, or sunrise and the stars.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And honestly, the beauty of people. I love the people of my people. small town. And I'm surrounded down here by a lot of great neighbors. But there's a different quality. I was just out in Asheville, South Carolina yesterday, North Carolina, yesterday. And I would live with those Appalachian people in a heartbeat. It's just, it's just different. It's just different. It's great. You know, one of, there's two things I'm really proud of. one is being called a legend at rodeos. Because you grew up in rodees, right?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Your mom was a barrel racer? Yeah. Yeah. My granddad rodeoed back when they'd rode horses to the rodeos and stuff. Wow. And the other one is, is everywhere I've lived, I've been called a good neighbor.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And that comes from my childhood. We lived on a hillside, mountainside in Montana. There was three families that lived there. year-round. There was us, Palmer's, my grandpa and grandma, the wing family and Norman Bruce. Then there was a couple other places where people would come and spend the summers. But we depended on each other. We took care of each other. The wings plowed our roads and took care of our roads in the winter. We go, granddad and I'd go castrate their colts in the
Starting point is 00:25:39 spring. We'd help them move cattle out on the forest service in the spring in the summer and go gather them and bring them back in the falls. We all just worked together. It was a community. There was 13 kids in eight grades when I started grade school there at Montana City. My granddad was the self-aclaimed mayor of Montana City. And we all just and got along. The place I lived at before where I'm at now, my neighbors across the road, their
Starting point is 00:26:11 politics in mine, for example. I opened the barn door and there's a rattlesnake coiled up ready and my neighbor was just across the fence. And I says, hey, you want to relocate this snake. You better get over here before I get to my gun. So boom, he come over and had a little deal. He snared that snake, put him in a bucket, took him off back up on the mountain. Well, I shoot the rattlesnakes on my property. So that's just kind of showing their politics politically go down that line.
Starting point is 00:26:55 So we came to an issue where we couldn't get the county to work on our road. So this guy is a computer tech. I mean, he can do some things with the computer. And then my other neighbor, he has heavy equipment. And so I went into the county commissioner. And I told them we're going to fix our road. You guys won't fix it. And my neighbor on the computer is found where it is a county road.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It should be maintained by the county. But you guys don't want to do it. So I'm going to buy the diesel from my one neighbor that has the equipment. This other neighbor's got all the permits and everything lined up on the computer to do this. And we're just going to fix our own road. Oh, we're waiting for. federal funding. When did this start happening? Everybody waiting for federal funding. I know. This is America. We do on our own. I know. And that's what I told them. I says,
Starting point is 00:27:56 we'll take care of this. That money should go to the schools or something else. We'll take care of this ourselves. Well, boom, then they all came out and they wanted to see what, you know, they got involved with it. But that bothers me so much. Those neighbors from Hell's Kitchen, she told me, She said, Forre, thank you for being such a good neighbor. And I was like, you know, I hope I'm as good a neighbor to you as y'all are to me because they were great. But our politics were totally the opposite. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:28:28 But it kind of helped. You know, he kind of seen my side. And I could, he opened my mind up to some other things. And then I was flying to Chicago for a WGN interview and doing a Shriners charity. and on the way up there Dallas I stopped in Dallas to go to Larry Mayhan's memorial and I got on the plane there was an old he was in his 80s and then I sat down he got a grin on his faces this might be an interesting ride I said what's that he says because I think our politics are probably different and I said well let's talk about that and we had a two hour whatever it is from Dallas to Chicago just a good visit we should shot there and visited him. He opened my mind to some things and I opened his mind to some things and it was just a good visit. And I got off the plane. He was helping some people get their stuff and he got off before I did. And he waited for me in the tunnel and he shook my hand. He says, this is what
Starting point is 00:29:35 this country needs more of. And I said, yes, sir. Absolutely. Just sit down. I said, but what I think, Glenn is it that's the computers. Everybody can go on. They can, they don't have to compromise in a conversation with you or I. They can go home to their computer and get with their little group.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh, what a jerk that guy was. Oh, yeah, yeah. They don't, they aren't going to listen or, you know, explain themselves because they got their own little group they can go back to. People they've never seen probably, you know. and might be controlled by some other group that's wanting to create division in our country.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It is raising kids is so scary right now. Oh, man, especially public schools. Oh, I mean, I just might both my kids just the last two are out of school now, one's 18, one's 20. I was hair raising. It was absolutely hair raising because they're dealing with stuff and you're like, I don't, I don't know. This didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:30:46 None of this stuff existed. And you feel like, you know, you feel like you're a thousand years old because you're saying the things that you swore you wouldn't say when your grandparents would talk to you, you'd be like, okay, grandpa. Yeah. You know, it's moved so far in a dangerous direction. You know, my grandpa and grandma didn't trust the government. Mine didn't either.
Starting point is 00:31:16 1973, Merle Haggard released, You're Walking on the Fight inside of me. So we've been in this battle before. I've got great-grandfathers that tore up the papers on their wives because they didn't want any government assistance because they're ending. And they did not want any government assistance. assistance. One of them was from Ireland on my grandmother's side. He came over and they conscripted him into the Union Army before he ever got a foot on America. Wow. Made him mad. So he became a spy for the Confederacy. And after the war, he moved to Missouri and married a Cherokee lady. And he He said, we don't need any of their help.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Tor up the paper. That's what I found at the hurricane in North Carolina. I mean, they're wondering why they don't matter to the federal government. But I have two people telling me, one of them set up all these retired, you know, soldiers and special forces. and special forces guy that live right in the community or right around. They set up a clinic because nobody was there. So they just did it themselves. And yesterday or day before, FEMA comes in.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And they said, you know, you don't have a license to, and they said, we've been here for seven days. Move, move on. We're going to continue to do what we know is right. And that's America. That's America. That's America. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, thank you. Yeah, big fan. You guys are just... Me too. Yeah. And I'm so bummed that it's coming apart and, you know, I don't, I don't. don't, you know, I hear both things about Kevin Costner, you know, it's not his fault, too. It is his fault.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I don't know. I don't either. Yeah. I stay out of that kind of stuff. Good, good for you. But how bummed are you that? Well, it's a, I'm not really bummed. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Kind of, yes, it was a great ride. I really liked the character I was getting to play. I liked what Taylor's writing. That guy's a genius. Oh, yeah, well, yeah, he is a genius. And the way he pulls it off and puts everything together. But it got to be the last season, you know, we don't know if you're going to work.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know, it just the turmoil that started there, and it started about the third season when it was a hit. When everybody realized, see, nobody thought in Hollywood, especially, oh, this ain't going to go. In fact, HBO didn't pick it up. When I first got involved, it was Robert Redford and HBO were going to, and then for so. Wow. They didn't think. And then after the second year, and they got this cult following going.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Now they're all like, whoa. And then the money in the hands came out coming in. And this, yes, things started. And it got... Did it break the cast up at all? Not the cast, no. Well, that was one of the cool things about it is how we all came to... Actually, probably made our acting and a lot of things better
Starting point is 00:36:54 because of how we did come together and gel together as a family. And... But that chaos. I mean, it was just... Yellowstone and hey we're going to film May through August boom here it'd be great but this never knowing and okay we're going to go now and then no that's because of the movies that Costner or whoever was doing right that's what breaking it up yeah well we don't know I don't know That's not my wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's just, I know that everybody got put on hold at Elkhart. You know, they see in your money and compensate you, but still, you got a life. It was bad for the audience, too. You're like, like this is the second half, right, of the, what is it, season five? Five, yeah. So second half, I don't even remember what happened, you know. In the first half, I have to go back and watch it. It just takes so long in between.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It's the beginning of the end, is what I've been. Yeah, but the Taylor's writing that whatever happened there and is water under the bridge now, and I'm better off and broader and bigger man than I was when we started. And it's just great. Oh, and like I said, all that's out of my, Yeah, yeah. I can't.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. I don't know what happened there. I don't like, I don't really care. But it's not Yellowstone. It wasn't the script and all of that is beautiful. I would love to go on for 10 years. Yeah. But all that other stuff that came out of this Taylor and Kevin.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't know if that's where all started. If it started somewhere else, all this friction over the money and the power. So sad. Yeah. Because it was really good. I mean, in a way,
Starting point is 00:39:09 in a way, I kind of feel bad for liking the family. You know what I mean? Because it's almost, it's almost like a cowboy version of the Sopranos. Almost. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:21 With the second year, you up there, oh, this is a Dallas Sopranos cross. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:39:29 What's cool about when people would tell me that, as cool because Patrick Duffy, one of the stars of Dallas. Yeah. It's from right down the road, 30 miles from my house. Really? Really?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Um, what's her name? Kelly Riley. Riley. Great lady. My gosh. That is the best character. I think the best, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:39:54 villain character I've ever seen. She plays it so well. And I had no idea. from Great Britain. And I read a story, and I don't know if this is true or not, but she said she didn't, she used an American accent the entire time for like the first week because she didn't want people to say, she's British, she's not going to be able to pull this roll off.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Right. Is that true? Yeah. Amazing. She had an acting or speech coach or whatever. Yeah. And this last season was the first time I really ever heard her have trouble with it on, you know. But yeah, I was just, I didn't know either the first couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And it's an oxymoron, I guess you'd call it. She is just a sweetheart in real life. And I. How she can play. I get people come up and tell me, oh, this is the best of the family. And I'm like, ooh. And they go, what? You know.
Starting point is 00:41:03 So that's kind of, our culture is so weird right now. My wife has a T-shirt that, you know, I'm having a Beth day or something. And the culture, it, the thing I think that is the secret on that is even her. She is fighting against the machine. Yep. You know what I mean? Maybe not fairly at times, but the whole thing is fighting against the machine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And that's... That's cool. That's cool. That's cool, especially today. So you're from Montana. Mm-hmm. I know a lot of people from Montana that are kind of pissed at Yellowstone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah. This is what I've got to say to them. And I know what you're talking about because you go... in some of the bars we had trouble. We'd be out filming on the road. People'd be flipping us off, call it. And then the other ones, we love you, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Reminded me of being Mexico back in the early 80s. I was down there. But that's what I got to say to you, Montanaans. I came up there in 2017. I'm from Montana. I love Montana. I worked in the Bitterroot Valley Cowboying when I was 19 years old.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Montana was ruined when we got there in 2017. It wasn't because of Yellowstone that you guys are selling property to these out-of-staters and stuff. Yeah, don't blame Yellowstone because it was already messed up when we got there in 2017. And the housing problem is national. It's not just because of Yellowstone in the bitter roof. Valley. This is happening all over the country right now. It's funny because that is the story of Yellowstone. Keep these people out. We want to preserve, you know, what we've always had.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And these people are coming in. I remember I, because I considered moving to Montana, which I wouldn't now because, you know, now the New Yorkers are there and the big money people are there and I'm like you you come in with your big money and you think you're safe you know everybody around you knows things go to hell you don't know how to survive you know what I mean but uh you know um when I first got in the movie business and I can't remember but the girl I was with she says uh how do you get along with all these multimillionaires and everybody, all these big producers and studio execs and everything,
Starting point is 00:44:02 you walk right in among them and just boom, I can survive with a knife. What has that got to do with it? I says, when the world goes to hell, I'll be the one they'll be looking for. Exactly right. My granddaddy taught me how to survive with a knife. And I said, so I feel just,
Starting point is 00:44:23 it doesn't matter how much money you, got I can survive and that that's worth a lot of money and so worth more than money when money won't doesn't matter who cares yeah and I and I'm rich in family and friends I've always felt that way and I ride good horses and I'm good dogs and I'm a rich man no matter how much money I got in the bank thank God I you know Taylor Sheridan I've got some money in the bank but I look at it as I look at my life that I was rich I'm rich doesn't matter how much money is in the bank because of my friends and my family stuff my mom gave me your old one horse trailer 1957 model bought and paid 500 bucks for it me and my little brother stared at the
Starting point is 00:45:19 front of that trailer for probably a million miles going down the road in the back of the station wagon That trailer's been to every rodeo west of the Mississippi and in Canada and the United States. But I pulled into a friend's house with it and needing to do some work on it and stuff. And I had me and this guy rodeo together and sold Kirby vacuum cleaners together, and I hadn't really been around him for years. I pulled in there with that trailer. I didn't have to go to the parts store. I didn't have to go to the mechanic.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I didn't have to go to the mechanic. trailer ride up and I pulled at home back to New Mexico. And that's the kind of friends I have, you know. But I think that's the kind of friends that you make when you're in those communities. Yeah. You know, everybody is. Yeah. I was having a big family reunion and we had just finished building the ranch and we were way behind.
Starting point is 00:46:23 and all these trucks with furniture and everything coming in. And like I get off the air and I come upstairs and here are all my neighbors. And they're putting sheets on the beds and I felt so guilty. I'm like, you shouldn't do this for me. I'm not a good neighbor yet, please. But it was amazing. And I kept saying, please, stop, please. We can do.
Starting point is 00:46:52 No, we're your neighbors. You got relatives coming tomorrow, and you're never going to be. I mean, it was like crazy great, just crazy. I seen it when my dad died. I was seven when my grandmother died when I was 11. And people came fed our livestock for us, made meals for us. It was just, I'm getting choked up, remembering how, the community just came to us.
Starting point is 00:47:26 We didn't make any phone calls. We didn't, they just showed up. And my grandmother's funeral, there wasn't even room in the parking lot for people. I mean, they came from out of the woodwork for my grandma. And, but yeah, that's what I was raised with. And that's probably why I'm such an American now is because I've seen America.
Starting point is 00:47:53 at work. I've seen Americans and what they do and what they hold special to their heart. So how can we get, because there are in ways to Americas. And I think what, I think it's honestly
Starting point is 00:48:12 not being around small towns and farmers and everything else. I think the city, and I know this for myself, I grew up in a small town, you know, there's garbage on street you pick it up you put it in the trash can you know what I mean yeah and I was in New York and I had been there for about three years and the taxes were out of control and I remember walking up to my building and there were newspapers and garbage blowing in the street and I turned to my friend and I said how much money do I have to pay for this
Starting point is 00:48:44 to be a clean street and I stopped and I went I've got to get out of the city because I was just, I was mad at the city for not doing something because that's the way you're trained in those big cities. You're trained. You don't do that. And I didn't want to live like that. You know, I didn't want to become that person. How do we, how do we regain this?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Well, I'm not sure. I'm trying to do it by example. That's one of the reasons it's low down, you know. on the list of reasons, but is to maybe get other people, wake other people up to that. And one of the things I tell people is, you know, I've always, every day I try to make the world a better place. And sometimes all it is is being able to pick up some trash along the road or opening a door for somebody or helping somebody with something. but I've always tried to do something and that's one of the things like where I live now
Starting point is 00:49:54 wherever I've lived I've always cleaned up the road in front of my camp when I was cowboy it was clean both my houses now the borrow pits are clean there's no trash but if there's trash because I live in a 400 person town if there's trash someplace on the side
Starting point is 00:50:17 of the road. I've stopped my truck, picked it all up, and put it in the back of the truck, and just, you know, take it to the dump or whatever. And you don't think of that. You don't think twice about that in a small town. You don't even think about that in a place like Dallas. When I was a kid, we seen a truck and truck pulling out of where we, one of our pasture leases where there's a creek and nice area, people like to come down there and pay. And picnic and camp and fish. And Granddad got the license plate number. What do we do?
Starting point is 00:50:54 What are you doing that for? Well, you, so sure enough, we ride down there, and they left their garbage. So Grandinay says, yeah, I got their license number. So we ride back to the house, and he calls his highway patrolman buddy and gets the address of this truck. we go back down and got some feed sacks and went back down picked up all that garbage and we went to that guy's house and granddad spreads it out on his lawn
Starting point is 00:51:26 he come out of the house pretty hot and grander said well you just did this to my lawn my place this is your garbage granddad tried to lure him out in the street because he wasn't going to hit him on his own property granddad wanted to and I think that man knew it and he knew that he had a whoopin coming and uh we didn't have much trouble with garbage
Starting point is 00:51:51 after that um somehow the words got around like it's around yeah and you know it's funny when i was down on that ranch right on the mexican border i had taken about four days to fill up a storage tank for this one pasture and uh i go go out, I don't have any pressure in my tanks, so I ride the line and I go up there and what they had done was illegal to come across and then knock that spiket off that 10,000 gallon water tank to fill up their jugs and then let it drain. Oh my gosh. I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:52:32 That's four days out of my life it takes to pump that foe. You know, I got to go check the pump. Got to take gas back to the jet. You know, and so I rode home. I switched horses and I got every gun I had that I could carry on a horse and I tracked them down. Well, they're laid up during the heat of the day and I went, I'm too mad to speak Mexican U.S.O.Bs.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I'm tired of this. You guys leave my gates open. You just drained a 10,000 gallon tank and this ain't the first time. I says, you're at my barn every night. When I'd turn the lights off at 10.30, the dogs would go off. I find toilet paper clothes where they change clothes in my barn and stuff they come up and fill their water jugs so I was like guys I don't call anybody on you I let you do your thing now I want my gates closed and leave my waters alone
Starting point is 00:53:32 you're causing me work and that we were well about 15 miles north of the border then so a couple days later I jumped some tracks going down, man, they left my gate, the heifers and the cows are going to be mixed up. No, they had tried to close. They didn't get it closed right, but they put it back up. Just in two days that had got around all over the border that, hey, this is a carol, I mean, I give them food, I give them water, whatever they need. And when you're that close to the border, you have to get along. because they can send somebody up there and snuff you and the person be back in Mexico
Starting point is 00:54:19 before anybody even knows you're missing or gone. And I know of cases where that's happened. And so the Board of Trowell, I tried to talk to them before when I first moved there. I was like, hey, why don't you guys drive through my yard when you're coming and going to work? Just drive, no, they wouldn't have nothing. They wouldn't help me.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I had a truck stolen. I went to all the authorities and gave them the truck and told them, I had people seen it being driven down across the border. Nobody could find my truck. I went to the feed store to my buddy, Caros, and I said, hey, call one of your buddies down there. And there's a little town called San Carlos, and it's, we found my truck. We can't carry guns or nothing into Mexico. Well, everybody in San Carlos around my truck had a gun or a knife and stuff on them.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I go, it didn't even dare open my mouth. I'm like, you know, what am I going to do? They're still driving my truck in Mexico. Wow. How much, are you still that close to the border? No, I live 60 miles south Albuquerque now. Okay. I packed a gun.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I slept with a gun. And that weighs on a man. and you know if all the Americans like knew what went on down there at the border I think they're starting to see it though in their own communities all across this country but I seen the cartel whenever you found luggage it was always a woman's luggage because a cartel would steal them and take them the women most women in them groups would be wearing ball caps and pants and trying to look as much as like a man as they could because they're spotters, they're scouts, watching everything that goes on down there on that border. I had a Border Patrol guy, I'm following tracks,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and they're on their four-wheeler's and stuff. Automatic weapons, you know, they're decked out. I got my six-shooter and my rifle, and I'm following. Don't go down there. there, don't go down there. I'm like, I got to go after these cows. And they're like, no, no, don't. And we're like two miles from the border. Don't go down there. They've got guns. Say, hey, you guys, aren't you the border patrol? Aren't you supposed to be patrolling that?
Starting point is 00:57:03 They're like, yeah, we can't get in a confrontation with them. And I'm going after my cows. and sure enough, they're hussed guys and camouflage with automatic weapons and stuff. And I just, hey, don't ask me vacas,
Starting point is 00:57:17 amigos, and I rode on through and picked up my cows. What does that mean? I don't speak Spanish. What did you just say? Oh, where are my cows, a miguel friend.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I had one case where I was following tracks and they go under the, go through the, under the fence. And I'm like, how does this work? And I reach and grabbed the steel post. They had cut the steel posts off at the ground level.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And it was in a gully or a gulch like that. And sure enough, laying over there a six-foot stick, you'd prop that stick underneath them where the posts were cut. My cows could walk right through the fence. So I'm going to go down and get my cows. I don't even get to the gate. Just a range gate like every ranch has into Mexico. In fact, I'd been into Mexico more times through range gates like that
Starting point is 00:58:19 than I have legally across the border. I don't get the gate open and they're on me. They're not going to let me into Mexico. The Federallis. Federalies. Wow. So the next day, I went back with my dogs and I brought me a little herd of cows on the U.S. side and held them up. And I propped the fence up and sent my dogs down there into Mexico
Starting point is 00:58:48 because I could see my cows. They sent them dogs down there and they went and brought them cows up to the other herd. And them federalities had their guns on my dogs. That's amazing. I hollered and let them know, hey, I'm getting my cows back. And I got my cows back. There was three cows with a tight bag. meaning full they hadn't been nursed.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And them other calves of grass, fat, milk, fat calf. I mean, they were eating them, you know, and can't blame them, really. But that's kind of things that go on down there on the Mexican border that people don't know about. And them cartels would fight. You'd hear them gun battles. And I asked a guy, what they're fighting over?
Starting point is 00:59:35 They're stealing them women out of the groups. and where you're at the borderline of one cartel and another and they're fighting over that borderline. I've had one friend. I've seen them having gun battles like the rat pack shooting at each other out of the back of trucks and stuff. On the American side. I come home one day to, well, I'd move from this camp,
Starting point is 01:00:04 but I was still taking care of it for a guy. I come riding up there, check on things. There's a truck backed up to the wellhouse. I'm loading bundles of pot into my wellhouse. Wow. What do you do? I mean, these guys are packing guns. They're real deal.
Starting point is 01:00:23 What did you do? I rode up and asked them what was going on and stuff, and they had the wrong address. They had the wrong place. But I got a wellhouse full of pot. and they didn't this didn't all get figured out till later and um you know i'm sitting there with my gun they're sitting there with their gun and it's hard to speak mexican when um the adrenaline's running yeah yeah and so we're having a tough time communicating but uh they got in their truck
Starting point is 01:00:56 and left and now here i went to town to a guy i knew that was involved with all this stuff And he got it taken care of for me. And see, that's another thing people don't realize is how much is run down there by the cartels and the drug company. Right. This would have been in the 90s, like 93, 94. I'm at a team roping in Benson. And this guy comes riding up to me, old rancher. And he says, hey, will you rope with me? And I said, sure, I'll rope with you. I go, what's the deal? He said, well, I just got out of prison and everybody's kind of hanging back from me.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I said, oh, yeah, what's that for? He says, well, they were smuggling pot out of my place. And he says, you can't say nothing or I wouldn't have a place when I come back. I said, well, how'd that work? What they were doing was they were putting pot down in the bottom of the stock, the cattle trucks, and then putting plywood over the top of them,
Starting point is 01:02:02 and then loading the cattle in on top of the plywood. Wow. And, you know, so you got a double load, and every once in a while they have to turn somebody in. One of the first ranches I was dating a lady, a girl down there on Kelly Glenn, and they took me to a pasture, and he says, now when you're checking that south fence, there's going to be bundled piles of pot.
Starting point is 01:02:30 He said, just ride on by them, like they aren't even there. just another pile of rocks, because there's somebody watching making sure the right people pick that pile up. Yeah, and that was in 87. Now it's out of control. Now they're just coming across
Starting point is 01:02:48 with whatever they want. And this is something that the public don't understand, and I got this from a special ops guy. There's more fentanyl coming across the border than the drug users can use. I said, well, that's, you know, what, that's one of my theories is that they're just going to poison the water supply. He says, yeah, five-gallon bucket of fentanyl into 10,000 gallons of water,
Starting point is 01:03:16 and kill everybody that touches that water to their lips. I've got a reverse osmosis. Thank you, Patricia, water filter. I've got my own wells, both properties, all my properties have their own wells, so I'm not having to worry about the community water. I don't think people understand what's here. I mean, China is in Mexico making the drugs for the cartels to come into here. And I mean, and we don't know who has that.
Starting point is 01:03:48 We have no idea. The last two bunches of Illegals, I jumped on that ranch. The last bunch were just as white as you and I are. And I'm a half breed. And the other group before them, they were dressed as Mexicans, but they were not Mexican. They were dark-complected, but, you know, I know.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Americans? They're Middle Eastern. Middle Eastern. Mm-hmm. Some of them had the dot and everything. But they had ball caps and the Mexican clothes on. Now, why are they coming? Why couldn't they get to come in legally?
Starting point is 01:04:27 What are they doing that they could come in? legally. And then I've heard about just yesterday where Muslims are moving in and taking over apartment complexes. Well, we have Chinese taking over in Maine. They're running the, they're running the drugs out of Maine now. And all of the money is going back to communist China. I mean, it's not good. My manager, he says, well, is this company okay? I'm I says, where's the money go? What do you mean? I says, like Budweiser, the money don't stay here in America,
Starting point is 01:05:09 it goes to Holland. You know, it's not an American company anymore. The money goes to Holland. That's what I mean. I says, if a company is American-based and the money stays here in America, I will endorse it. I was working on young riders, the TV show. whom not you a united artists got bought up by the chinese and we stopped at the local there's a little bar out there
Starting point is 01:05:41 moscow by the set we'd stop have a beer this one guy he one of the grips he's just work oh my god i'm working for the china he goes on and on and on about how he's working for foreign company now you know we go out to his car what's he get in but a Dotson I grabbed a hold of him I says you financed this everybody that drives a foreign car
Starting point is 01:06:12 is financing them foreign people to come over here and buy stuff from Americans and yeah Americans it might cost a little more like I had a sunglass company wanted me they endorsed me I'm like if they're made in America well
Starting point is 01:06:28 that got cabossed because it costs too much to make them in America. And so, yeah, but the good, the best things, the good things usually do cost more or harder to get. You know, it's, it's gotten to the point to where we're suicidal on some of this stuff. We don't make our own drugs here. We don't make our own antibiotics here. What is, what are we thinking? We've just thought, oh, we can be a global, you know, economy and, you know, there's nothing wrong with having trade, et cetera. But not when you don't have your own steel, not when you don't have, you know, look at what's happening to Boeing.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah. You put Boeing out of business. How do we, how do we maintain, if, God forbid, we had to go to war, we can't make airplanes. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's insane. It's insane. I think the administration that's in now would just let us go.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I'm really scared of what's going to happen during the election, after the election, I should say. There's a, you know, I get around the country a lot more than I used to. And I'm meeting a lot of people and I talk to them about voting and they're like, I ain't voting anymore. I'm just buying more. You know, you got to vote. Yeah, you got to vote. I just did a deal at the college in Socoral on Monday to registering kids to vote.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And tell them, you sign up any way you want. You're here going to vote. But eight out of ten of them were red. So they're starting to wake up. And people, you know, especially Texas, I mean, I lived here in the 80s and they, you know, Texas a seed. And about half of them are serious. And so there's a lot of talk all around the country about, you know, who's just break away or have a civil war?
Starting point is 01:08:37 Are you out of your mind? You don't have any idea. You don't want that. No. I mean, if it comes to that, it comes to that. But don't root for that. I buy more bullets. Did you vote?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Yeah. Because you don't want a civil war. No. And, excuse me. that's what China and Russia wants. They want us divided, and then they're going to come in here and take over. They're already here. And, you know, these initiatives that they've gotten 27 of our states taking parents' consent away in the schools and this transgender stuff and stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's not about transgender. and it's about confusing our children, taking the patriotism out of them, and then like Mark said and Hitler said, we control the children, we control the future. Well, here we are. And I always missed the point there. Well, you know, when you're talking about
Starting point is 01:09:53 doing this to the children, you're not only confusing them. Oh. You are, you're also destroying the ability for them to, if you give them the hormone drugs, they can't have children. You've broken the family apart. You've broken the difference between male and feet. You've just broken us.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And the two, the only two countries that they aren't pushing these in schools and everything, of course, they're already pretty much brainwashed, is China and Russia. And yet they're one of the bigger financing sources for all of this nonsense. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Let me just go back to Yellowstone for a second. Are we going to like the ending?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Do you know the ending? That's a good question. Because I just posted the other day that, hey, don't ask me because I don't know. They blacked their scripts out except for what we needed. No. And I'm not real sure how anything happens. In fact, there was one day, they'd give me my dialogue the day before. Really? The scene was blacked out. And it was good, one of the Taylor Sheridan's classy lines, too. And I hope I did it. I'm pretty sure it came out right. So you are, you're hitting a resurgence, right?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Oh, late bloomer? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no. I mean, you are, Taylor put something together, and everyone who's involved with it is now bigger than, you know, they had been. Maybe Costner is an example. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He's probably bigger too because of it. you didn't start out as that person. And I don't, it's rare to meet somebody from, and I don't mean it this way, because you're not from Hollywood. I don't know many people who are in the business that are willing to say the things that you do.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah, well, that might not be in the business tomorrow. But you don't seem to care. I mean, when COVID happened, I think it was a, SAG Awards. You were like, I can't go because I'm not getting a vaccine and I don't want to make this political. I don't, you know, but I'm not going. Right. That's, I am who I am before, after, and, you know, during, I don't. Is that age or is that the cowboy or what, what is that that gives you that? It's probably the cowboy. I had a
Starting point is 01:12:48 pretty good life for an old crippled rodeo cowboy. I was doing really, really, great when Taylor discovered me and everything happens for a reason and for a purpose and I've been warned to be careful about what I say here today. And about Yellowstone or just what you? I'm not sure what. I was just scared to be clear. I was like, clarify that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I was like, well, I think I know what he means. So it's been a beautiful ride and they can't really hurt me now. I got my own land. My granddad told me that all you needed was 10 acres to survive. You can raise your enough meat in the garden to survive on 10 acres. And I've been blessed with a lot more than that. And I can't survive. I feel that I would be letting him and a lot of other people down if I didn't stand up, you know.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And I think that's one of the things that's wrong with this country right now is that people don't stand up. We just keep getting along. And that I understand that. Because that's what we do. we get along we keep going and keep trucking on but there's a time and it's a line now yeah yes you're when you start messing with my children you start messing with my animals all right you've crossed the line now and uh i i i just want to spread that feeling hey we're americans and you know Glenn
Starting point is 01:14:48 our country was founded by people from all different religions all different ethnicities ethnicities and they came over here and made this beautiful country we make Yellowstone there's people from all levels all shapes of life and I love them all I love you all thank you and we come together and we make this beautiful,
Starting point is 01:15:18 beautiful TV show. So I have faith that we can come together and fix this country. Like I said earlier, it isn't the first time we've been here. I mean, they were killing kids on campuses and stuff, you know. So, yeah, I think that's when Merle Haggars, you're walking on the fighting side of me,
Starting point is 01:15:43 song came out was about then. So we can fix it. The election process has me a little worried. And when the Republicans call me and want money and stuff, that's what I tell them. When you fix the election system,
Starting point is 01:16:04 when we know that our vote counts, I mean, it's like, my son's one of them. He's like, I ain't voting anymore. It doesn't matter. I mean, we go to bed, the right side's winning, and we wake up in the wrong side. I know. This time, I mean, this might be it. This just might be it.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I'm hoping. No, but I mean, if it, one way or another, this might be the end of the America that we know. If people don't get out and vote. And, you know, I've never had a problem with elections. never had a problem with elections. I can handle losing as long as it's a fair fight. And you know that's the way the American people went. The problem comes in when you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:55 You know, this is all rigged. That's the problem. Yes, sir. And why we live in a country like we do. And we can't, we could send billions of dollars all around the world in seconds and not a penny as missing but we can't secure the vote that's amazing yeah and I was at a Ria Dosa for the All-American I led the post parade for the All-American and a post lady come up to me and she's like you know I'm so proud of you and what how you stand up
Starting point is 01:17:35 what you're doing and she said I wanted you to know I delivered 15 mail-in to a house that I know only a couple live in. I said, boom, there you go. Another guy stepped up and says, hey, I deliver mail too, and I have the same thing, only one person lived there, and I've delivered 12 million ballots to that house. Lincoln County's good about it, but a lot of counties, and somebody dies, if you don't go in and take them off the roll,
Starting point is 01:18:13 them off the rolls, they're still voting. That's where we're having our problems. Well, some states have done a pretty decent job on clearing some of that out. Florida's trying. Georgia's trying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look ahead. Is America America in five years? Can we turn this, and I'm not just talking about politically. I mean, that sense of A venture, that sense of, come on, guys, we can do this. The sense of epluribus unum, we all might come from different places, but we believe in the Bill of Rights. We believe, I have a right, you have a right. Now, let's move on.
Starting point is 01:19:03 We can argue about taxes all day long, but we have these things in common. Do we, where are we in five years? I hope that we're back. excuse me, but I don't see it really. They've, the children are so brainwashed. You know, I do, I may even take that back. A lot of the younger people I've been around lately have really kind of inspired me. Me too.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Maybe there is hope. Yeah. We lost two generations, but this next one is the rebe. of those last two. Yeah. Seems to be. But rebellion might not be what we really need right now. Well, I mean, but they're more spiritual?
Starting point is 01:20:11 If they do it in the right way, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm more of the, I've never been, I'm more tactful now than I've ever been in my life. I always strike first and ask questions later, you know. I fight. before anything else. But I can see the error of my ways in the past.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And, you know, that's one of the things right there is we have to look at our past and see where we've messed up. We can't erase it. And Democrats, Confederates were Democrats. Who's taken on all the Confederate statues and stuff? And why were those statues put up? I don't think most people understand. That was to try to heal the wounds, saying, we won, but you had heroes too.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You know what I mean? That's why those things were built as a reach across saying, let's have reconciling here. We are not going to try to erase your heroes, but we won. And this is who we are now. Yeah. And now we're destroying it. We're destroying not only that reconciliation, the evidence of that reconciliation,
Starting point is 01:21:38 but also we're erasing any reminder that that happened. You know what I mean? It's horrible. Robert E. Lee was a great man. He was a good man, a great leader. And yeah, and this is where we're at. I'm in New Orleans, but I always didn't want to go in restaurant and all the pictures and everything. My handler, we got a driver, and he's taking me down to get a sack of tacos.
Starting point is 01:22:16 So he goes in and gets me a sack of tacos, and I'm sitting out there talking to the driver, and he's telling me about him tearing these statues and stuff down, and how it pissed him off. And I'm like, well, man, why'd you let it happen? You know, I told him about the water fountain in Hill Park and Hill in Montana where I was raised. We used to go drink beer under there. And we'd meet, hey, I'll meet you at the fountain at Hill Park. We didn't know the daughters of the Confederacy
Starting point is 01:22:44 had donated that water fountain. Well, it's gone now. And he was like, I know it's just B.S. He's all with me until my handler comes back and gets in the car. And he, oh, I got to be politically correct. I grabbed a hole I started to shake That's why our country screwed up
Starting point is 01:23:05 It's because nobody will say anything Everybody thinks you have to be politically correct I says why aren't we politically correct By wanting to keep that I says that I feel I'm politically correct By wanting to honor a good man Yeah maybe he is on the wrong side But he didn't do anything dishonorable
Starting point is 01:23:27 No Lee was Lee was a straight up Yeah, man. Yeah, he was. I've studied him. Yeah. I'm interested to see where you go next. You're doing a movie now, aren't you? Oh, you got a Christmas movie. One little angel that I bought,
Starting point is 01:23:50 I mean, Tomas Sanchez bought from Joel Kaufman and award-winning writer. And we're fixing the day. do that. Out for next, not this coming, but. Hopefully we can get it done this winter, so it'll be out in 2025. We've got a theme song already written for it. Me and Mokela Lane have written a song called One Little Angel.
Starting point is 01:24:14 What's the story? It's about a little girl that loses her mother that's a barrel racer, and she has this champion barrel horse. Can I just say, I mean, this might be very offensive. to some, but I don't really care. There is nothing more beautiful than a woman that is barrel racing or the women that come out with the flags on the horses. My gosh, that's beautiful. Isn't it?
Starting point is 01:24:43 It's glorious. Yeah, it is. And she has a colt out of this award-winning horse that her mother had before she died. She died of cancer, and it devastates her dad, and they end up losing it. in the farm and everything and one little angel she needs all I just need one little angel and uh by the end of the movie she finds figures it out that there are angels all around us all the time and uh you know I I have people tell me they don't believe in God and I I it's it flabbergasts me especially when you're illegitimate uh half-breed
Starting point is 01:25:29 come up like I did. I mean, I'm not, eight out of ten kids statistically are either locked up or dead that come up like I did.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And, if that ain't somebody working for me, and I feel like I have my grandpa and grandma with me a lot. You've talked about them a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Well, my grandma My mother changed my life. There's, I was, I think, is the second grade. And I got in a fight at school. Somebody's called me, got to eat her or something. And I came home and she says, you know, when you quit, letting them bother you with that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 01:26:25 they'll quit doing it. You know, don't let it bother you. And it's no fun for anybody. And I said, yeah, you're right. And she says, and you know, your granddad can fight. And I've seen you fighting with your cousins. You can fight. But I don't only ever want you fighting unless you're in the right.
Starting point is 01:26:45 And if you always are in the right when you do fight, you'll win. No matter the odds, because the other guy I'll know he's wrong. And I says, you know, why are you telling me? She says, you've got a good heart for you. And you'll always have that good heart. How do you know that, grandma? She goes, because puppy dogs and babies love you. You have a good heart.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And there's times when I was in juvenile delinquent days and stuff that that might have saved me from going to the dark side. I remembered my grandma told me I had a good heart. and so I've like my son I've got a good heart you can screw up and be what a jerk you want to be but I know you have a good heart and he does he's probably maybe better than mine but yeah that that one line might have saved me from a lot of different going like I said
Starting point is 01:27:49 going to the dark side and being locked up or dead by now You're fascinating. I'm so glad we had this conversation. Well, thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm honored to be here, man. Thank you.
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