The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 248 | Kid Rock’s WILD White House Dinner Plan to Unite America | The Glenn Beck Podcast     

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Go to PBRWorldFinals.com to buy tickets to Kid Rock’s Rock N Rodeo and the PBR World Finals this May in Arlington and Fort Worth, TX “Make America Fun Again,” says the one and only Kid Rock in a sit-down with Glenn Beck, marking the beginning of what looks like an American comeback. From the popularity of Kid Rock’s new Rock N Rodeo venture with the Professional Bull Riders to his MAGA-rally-style concerts touring the nation, the pair believe we may be watching the revival of the “American Bad Ass.” Sitting together in the Cowtown Coliseum as Kid Rock smokes a cigar, they celebrate the “independent spirit of rock 'n' roll,” which traces back to the cowboy, with Kid Rock declaring, “America owns that cowboy culture.” After lamenting the “pussification” of America, wondering what really happened with Epstein and Diddy, and breaking down why Kid Rock described himself as “socially liberal” until the “transgender stuff,” they discuss how Kid Rock balances his rockstar persona with his real life. “I’m Jekyll and Hyde,” he admits. But Kid Rock is comfortable being an enigma and embraces nonconformists like Elon Musk, calling Musk’s new AI chatbot “genius.” In the end, they agree that it’s time to “unite this country,” and Kid Rock reveals his wild plan for a White House dinner party with Trump and someone you would never expect.            GLENN’S SPONSORS        PreBorn   By introducing an expecting mother to her unborn baby through a free ultrasound, PreBorn doubles the chances that she will choose life. To donate securely, dial #250 and say the keyword “baby,” or visit https://preborn.com/glenn.        American Financing  American Financing can show you how to put your hard-earned equity to work and get you out of debt. Dial 800-906-2440, or visit https://www.americanfinancing.net.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I feel like I'm going to be sitting in the lunchroom, and I'm about to be beaten up. No, you got me pegged, right? I'm not the cool kid. Yeah. Well, you are now. I mean, you have been off and on off, obviously. Arguably. With half the country. With half the country. What's the other half? Like, have you lost a lot? Has this cost you anything? No. I was talking to a friend about it. No, I kind of, you know, I kind of, you know, You know, not really.

Not really. It's, it's, I mean, I just, I'm just an honest person. I love my country. That's kind of how simple it is. But so it wasn't really, you know, it came to a point where it wasn't, once you've seen behind the curtain in this business, it's just freaking awful. Yeah. It's disgusting.

And just didn't want to play that game, you know, with the awards and this, that, and the other, and the politics involved with this and that and the radio and all that. And I'd say for a rainy day, that definitely was. a factor in things. Yeah. Where, you know, and I just, you know, I've always said I don't give a F, and that's very true in a lot of ways, but it's kind of thin. Was it kind of thin things out, I'm sorry, to make the point, for your question was,

it's like, you know, you do something and your friends, you get this group of friends, it kind of turns their back on you. Yeah. You're like, perfect. I just weeded out the idiots. Right. You know what I mean? It makes life so much better, you know, because I can talk to anybody from any side or

whatever. If they're a little bit reasonable, just be a little bit reasonable. I can sit down and talk to anyone. Because you have done everything with everybody. You know, I mean, Cheryl Crow has not necessarily one that jumps to the mind. We don't talk a lot these days. I'm to think of it. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. So we're here at, because you're starting something with PBR and the rodeo. Yeah, Kid Rocks Rock and Rodeo. I mean, you grew up in Detroit. There are not a lot of rodeos in Detroit. Zero.

The Motown rodeo. It don't think happened. I like the ring of that, though. What, what? You know, I grew up north of Detroit. We had six acres, a couple horses. You know, beautiful home, beautiful spread and all that. But so, no, it was far from growing up as a cowboy or rodeo.

Although, you know, my parents were into that stuff, you know. They used to go, like to watch this fiddle place. or sneaky Pete. It's a little dirt for a place. And, you know, they like to ride his horse and things like that. But no, nothing like this.

It wasn't until probably 20, I don't know, if it was 20, 25 years ago when I started performing at high levels and started doing rodeos. There's Cheyenne rodeo. Yeah, yeah. Rodeos in Canada, Calgary. And of course, the Houston rodeo.

And so I was like, and it's kind of cool. It's kind of badass. Yeah. First time you go to a rodeo. I remember I was on CNN and I used to call myself a rodeo clown. I'm just a rodeo clown.

Until I got the president of the president of the rodeo clown association wrote to me and said, do you know what rodeo clowns do? And I'm like, okay, you're right, you're right. I mean, it is really badass to use your language. And it's one of the toughest sports, and I don't mean tough, like UFC tough.

Right. I mean, like, cowboys and that whole lifestyle, cowgirls, they're just tough people. I mean, just the way they live, they work so hard, the way they raise their families, the way they love this country. To me, that's tough. It's weird because I think we were on the verge of absolutely flushing all of it away.

And there's this renaissance that is going on. I grew up in the West, and there's something about those mountains that when you get to the mountains, you know, which one am I? Am I going to be the one in the wagon train that actually crossed those or I'm going to be like, I'm out? there's something about the West that is American unlike any other place. Yeah, I think we've seen it so many picture books and so many different things, you know, it's kind of embedded in our culture. And America owns that, you know, cowboy culture. Yeah.

You know, it's the greatest movies. It's the greatest tales. You know, whether it's campfire sing-alongs or, you know, cowboys and Indians, whatever it is. It's just, I just, arguably tough, you know, just the coolest American thing ever. I was here. Rock and roll, give it a good run, but, you know. It comes back down to this, though, the independent spirit of rock and roll.

Yeah? Comes from the cowboy. And I think you just summed it up there, the independent spirit of a cowboy. Yeah. That's really, I mean, that is independence and freedom. Like the open range, everything with it, a gun on your side. Like, hey, you know, you get out of line and you're really wrong.

You just get shot. We're not going to have a big meeting about it with a bunch of guys with white hair on. And like, this thing's like, you're just being an idiot and you're an asshole in the boom. Did you watch Yellowstone? I did. That is what I think everybody... Oh, that had a ton to do with it.

Oh, everybody was looking at Yellowstone that, you know, that critics from, you know, back east, whatever, that just didn't understand it. And what it was was we're living in a time where the bad guys don't pay. It doesn't seem like anybody who's connected, you know, pays for anything. And there's no common sense. And that's what it was. I think the Yellowstone secret was boom

And we got to thank that guy Taylor Sheridan Because now it's like Pretty much half the country You know I guess we call them As divided as things are It's like half the country The girls are all just dressing up as sexy cowgirls Now I got no problem with that

I got to tell you women It's better than like the blue hair And the big nose ring The black goth dress You're like whoa Hey don't say it don't look good. I used to be a man. I look really great. There's nothing sexier than a woman on the horse with the flag going around and riding around.

A thousand percent. I've said that a million times. It is the most beautiful. It is. It's beautiful. It is. It really is. So Generation X was really responsible in many ways for Trump's win. You had a big part of that. What is it about Generation X? Which one is that again, the younger one? No, that's the after 60, born 65. Oh, okay, the old one.

Yeah. I don't know all those things. Not the old old one. You're Generation X. Hmm. So my generation. Your generation, yeah. Got to use layman's terms of me. Yeah.

You start confused me with big words in terms. So X? What? what is the, is there something different about that generation, our generation? I mean, I think we just, I mean, the way I grew up was like, you went to dumb stuff. You got your buddies and your bikes at the gravel pit and you're like, which one's going to go first? Yeah, go down this huge hill with no helmet on and like, yeah, somebody broke their arm or got hurt, this, that, and the other. And it's such a conundrum, especially, you know, having to raise a son and having a couple grandkids now.

like, I get it wearing a helmet. But you're like, man, you got to get some bumps and bruises at the same time. But God forbid something happened to your child or their friend that was horrible. You're like, you're caught in this, I call it kind of, I don't know how else to say, but the pacification of America. Exactly right. It's exactly how I describe it. Yeah, well, that's what it seemed like it was.

I mean, I'm sitting there watching Trump's speech last night. And somehow it came into my head, like, what if George Washington was sitting here listening to this? or like one of our forefathers. And I'm like, can you believe these mofos would be like, and he's like, and there are only two genders, male and female. And George Washington's like, the hell has been going on here. Are you kidding me? What are you guys talking about right now?

Talking about advancing America and making a great society and living free. And he's like, hey, there's all the men and women. And half the crowd's like, nah. You're like, this is going on, man. This is bananas. I know. I know. And you don't have to go to George Washington.

You could go to, you could go to George W. Bush back in the day and say that. He was probably sitting at home laughing along with like, are you kidding me? We actually have to say this like in a, you know, a big speech. What the hell is what is wrong with? You saw them last night. What are they thinking? And they always just look weird to me like these far left people. They just look like people you don't like.

I mean, I hate to say this, but you can tell. I can usually tell by the glasses they're wearing. Yeah, red frames. You're like, far left idiot. Like, you know, I hate to stereotype people. It's so freaking fun. So honest, too, half the time. But yeah, I was talking with a buddy last night.

You can kind of see people. They just look miserable. Miserable. Like, everyone's not pretty. I get that. I look like freaking Brad armpit. I get it. But you know what I mean?

It's something about, and I'm not talking to their physical looks, just something how they look. They look miserable. And it's not just now because they lost and they got to take a weapon from a principal and, like, get one of these. It's just they've always just looked kind of, I mean, I think they are miserable. Women protesting outside of abortion, I was like, no one's sleeping with you. Like, what are you doing?

Like, you know, who are you protesting for? Like, have you looked in a mirror? And it's not your physical looks. It's just everything about your aura. Like, yeah, you're just miserable. You're just a man-hater. It's the opposite of the girl with a flag on the horse. Complete opposite.

The, I was. talking about it today, imagine not being able to clap for the little boy who had brain surgery and brain cancer, not being able to clap, actually saying, as Elizabeth Warren did, yeah, five more years of war. I'm looking miserable. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

You're like, sir? Ma'am? Ma'am, sir? I actually have pity for them, because I can't imagine living your life like that. Trump derangement syndrome is real. It's crazy. I know. It's freaking real.

You just saw it last night. This beautiful little boy with, I didn't even know we had brain cancer when they first started. We're making them a sheriff's or a secret service guy or whatever and this, that. And they're like, oh, man. And they say his brain cancer is like, oh, you know, God bless him, you know. And these people are sitting there like, nah. I know.

What's the matter with you? I know. Find no hope in that. You were just, weren't you just golfing with Trump and Elon Musk? Yeah, Sunday. Oh, Elon doesn't golf. He doesn't golf. No, he came out and hung with us like the last three, four holes or something.

Yeah. We're having a blast. One thing is the age of the president is 78. And I don't think I could keep up with him. I can hardly keep up with him. I'm the energizer, go buddy. Yeah. I mean, what is that?

Is that just jeans? What is that? I don't know, because God bless them, like, it's not from, like, eating the healthiest foods. No. God bless me, it's just, I mean, you couldn't pick an American out, like, bacon, eggs, sausage, diet Coke. And, like, you know, a few holes in it. He's like, you want a Hershey's Bar? I'm like, yeah.

You want a Fanta? Did you? Yeah. That's cheeseburger, fries? I'm like, this is. Yeah, everything that RFK is going to say is bad. He does. Did you know him before during the first term?

I met him. I endorsed him in Rolling Stone. As soon as he came down that elevator, I'm like, boom. I want a business guy. This dude, I don't care who somebody slept with or what they did. You know, these little things that just blow up your personal life. I'm like, I don't care if they're not like, you know, doing weird stuff with kids or like killing people. I'm like, whatever.

Live your personal life. Like, the America of business has sucked for decades and decades. I'm like, let somebody knows how to run a business get in there. So I endorsed him there. Didn't know him, but it was pretty vocal about it. Of course, it took a ton of crap, which I like it. I care less. Like the last guy that's going to get upset, you know,

sticks and, I'm the sticks and stones epitome. Yeah. And then Sarah Palin, I knew her a little bit. And the first couple months of him being in office, she got invited to dinner, and president told her to bring some interesting people. So she called me and Ted Nugent. And we went to very interesting people.

I remember, you know, having a awesome time at the White House. It's just what, you know, when you meet somebody and they're just, you can tell they're kind of cut from the same cloth. Yeah. He's definitely got a rebellious spirit. So what is it? What is it? Because he, I mean, you cannot relate to his kind of wealth. Elon the same way.

You just cannot relate to that kind of wealth. and yet he's not, he's not what you think he is. He's just a regular guy. I told a buddy yesterday, I'm like, you know, I've got to spend a few times with Elon now we text a little bit. Like, I'd say we're friends at this point. And I was like, I'm not even thinking about how much money is. I like, to me, it looks like he doesn't have two nickels to rub together.

I know. Like, you know, you just said, dude, we're clowning about this new app he has, and we're making jokes at the UFC. See, and it's kind of the same with Trump. You know, of course, all the stuff you're around, you're like, wow, and I love that stuff. Because this whole Hollywood thing is always like, it's this cool Hollywood thing not to put a picture of yourself in the house,

you know, not to have your awards up. And I'm like, I got my stuff everywhere. I'm absolutely proud of what I've done. Right. You know what I mean? I walk into his stuff. I'm like, oh, awesome. He's got him everywhere.

Have you seen over, I think it's in the bar of Mar-Lago. He's got the picture. Upstairs? on the main floor, he's got the picture of him with the tennis racket. He looks like 25 years old. So good. Like, I don't think you ever really played tennis, but I love the idea. So good.

It's just fun, you know, I don't think people get sometimes, like, same with me. Sometimes I'm doing stuff. I'm like, and people are laughing at me. They don't realize I'm laughing harder at myself than you're laughing. Like, I'm just having a blast and having fun. And there's a fine, you know, there's a fine line there with some of it. but we just kind of cut from the same cloth on a lot of things. And Tucker Carlson said it.

He introduced me at this show, our first year of this festival I do called Rock the Country. And he said one of the most poignant things I've ever heard. He was describing like, what does a real American look like? He's describing me to intro me and he goes, he would be both disobedient but decent. I was like, boom, I love that. I was watching the speech last night. And Trump may have used the word revolution, but it struck me as I'm watching, I thought, this is, this is a revolution without any bloodshed. This is, this is, and I don't think people really understand that yet.

Everything is changing. Everything is changing. That's cultural revolution, number one. Yeah. And that really spills over into politics. So do you think that, do you think that that cultural revolution is? lasting or real. I keep, you know, we've only, we're only, what, six, seven weeks into it, yeah. And so you're kind of like, okay, is this really going to last? Because we were so crazy. Literally, I think we lost our mind as a country. Absolutely. There's no question.

But they're still crazy. You know, it's just, it's just that pendulum swings and, like, does it have to keep swinging so far to each side? Yeah. You know, I'd like it just to be like a little right over here. Yeah. It doesn't have to be way up here, right? Just a little right over here. That'd be my personal preference. But I just hope it doesn't go back and forth and we get in this, you know, boom, where it's like, hey, is there?

We can't survive as a country if we keep doing that. No, we just remember. We're all on the same team. We want the same things. We disagree on how to get there. And most reasonable people can have discussions and agree to disagree. I mean, it's the little thing in the book. Find common ground.

You know, here and there. and just, you know, okay, you're pro-union. Somebody had a bad experience with him here, and their boss was taking too much money, and it got corrupt. And, you know, you can have different points in many things. It still be rational and reasonable. It's just unreasonable people. Nah, put their heads in guillotine at this point.

Okay. There's that. Just tell me, Pam's not building any guillotine, Pam Bondi. She might be. I love Pam. Yeah, she might be. So you were, weren't you just with Pam on Ticketmaster? weren't you?

You were trying to... I had dinner with her, Marlago, before she got sworn in. And it's not really... I mean, I've said this, like, Ticketmaster, like, they've been bad actors for years. If the DOJ takes them out and makes them sell their company, I will not shed a tear. It does not solve the problem

of trying to get concert tickets into people's hands at the prices artists want to set because of the bots, the scalpers, the bad actress. And actually, the president, just appointed Alina Haba, to Spearhead my ticketing thing, which is basically there's several things to it. I won't bore with them all,

but the main thing is, and I'm a deregulation guy, I'm a capitalist through or through. There's no other way to do this. I have to do it like France did and a few other people. We need to cap the resale of tickets at like between 10 to 20%. Otherwise, American people are just getting screwed.

Yeah. And you're just handing money to the bad actors, to the bots, the scalpers are sent in the other. And the American people, and I told the president, I go, look, this doesn't seem like a top line thing. I get it, but just hear me out. I go, what do people really want after?

And this could be number one, too. What do people really want after to be safe and to have a good economy, to be making money, be able to take care of their families? They want to have fun. They want to have fun. Let's make America fun again. You know what I mean?

If we can get this done, you're going to be a hero because people are going to not have to decide whether to come to one of my shows or a family vacation. Like what is the difference that you see your tickets scalp for. What are your tickets go for? And then what do you see them?

Well, you can't put them for what you want anymore. What does that mean? Put them? Like, if I think, like, you know, like, hey, I'm going to play for a $100 ticket for these really good seats, then it's going to be $50 bucks, you know, for the other ones, you know, the higher seats, this is that and the other. The bots and the scalper is going to eat those all up,

and those front ones are going to be anywhere from $500 to $2,500 to whatever they can get. They just put them out there. Those high ones, you're just, so now you have to do this, what do they call it, price, dynamic pricing. Yeah. So you're trying to cut the scalpers down because, hey, let's face it. Like I said, I'm a capitalist. I'm not going to be a good guy and sell my tickets for, you know, whatever, $20, and go make the scalpers millions of dollars. Right.

Well, if there's no other way to do it, I'm making the money and I'm going to take care of the people I want to take care of. Right. And I've had a million ideas. Can we sell them? Like airline tickets? You don't get to resell your airline ticket. You turn it in. you know, if you can't go, maybe, you know, 48 hours before, you can turn it back into the system.

There's all these different plans. We've been trying to solve this for decades. And literally the quickest way right now is to put a cap on the resale. And it's really bad in sports, but I'm not going to take on those guys yet. So what is the, is it because, or is it just because of the scalpers, or does this have anything to do with, I mean, I remember when Michael Jackson went on tour and he was charging $19 to take a member for the victory tour? and everybody was like, 90. I didn't make that Tor glen. But it was a big deal because his tickets were $19. And that was outran.

I think the highest ticket up to that point was maybe 10. They just wanted to sell the albums. I'm overpaid. I'm the first one to say it, terms like, what did you say? I'm like, I'm telling you, I'm overpaid. Market value. It's ridiculous. There's, you know, I've never had to ride around my,

I'm a Windows tinted here and there because I've made an honest dollar of a working man's back, and I'm very proud of that. But at the same time, I'm like, the way the system's set up now, you know, this is why managers who now have really become record companies, which, by the way, live nation owns some of the management companies. They own the buildings. They sell the tickets. Oh, yeah.

This, that, and the other, is, it's gotten so out of hand. There's just, you know, the managers don't want to solve it because you're making more money than ever. It comes all about this thing. I'm like, there's enough money in here for every. There's so much money in this business. If I book this building, the promoter, the building owners, there's plenty money for them to make. The promoter of the show, there's plenty of them to make.

There's plenty of money for us to make as a band. It's all right there. It's just got, ask anybody who's bought a concert ticket in the last, whatever, decade, and maybe two decades, and they'll tell you, it's a freaking fiasco. It's garbage. You get in there. Now, there is a supply and demand thing that people got to understand. If I'm going on tour and there's 300,000 tickets and 700,000 people want to go, certain people can't go.

Certain people can't go. But that shouldn't stop people. That shouldn't mean you have to pay. But that's dynamic pricing. That's fine, right? Well, that's, no, the dynamic pricing is, you do dynamic pricing to certain levels. Like, the front row is not worth this. Right.

But I don't like to sell my front row. But if you do dynamic pricing and you don't have the bots and the scalpers, then that's right. Right. Yeah, if you can only, yeah, then it will work. Yeah, right. If you can only sell it 10% over what you paid for it. Right. Of the all in pricing.

That's the other thing it's on, the, know, the bill or whatever executive wars are going to pass is like, you know, you can't get to you can't buy a $100 ticket and then you go to check out, you're like, it's $165? What happened? Right. You know, it should all be very transparent. Okay, what do people like Andre Bodeccelli, Steph Curry, Justin Bieber, and Tim Tebow all have in common? All of their mothers were encouraged to end the pregnancies. When a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, she's often pressured to end. and her child's life.

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like now compared to when you first got in? Oh, just as dirty and it's evil it's the most Why do you say it that way? Oh, it's just

full of scoundrels and scumbags rip off con artists I mean what business let's take a record company what business basically they give you a loan

now of course they do promotion and artist development and things like that. When you break it down to brass tax, kind of giving you a loan. And then after that, they basically take 80% of everything you make. Like, what business can survive doing that?

Now, there's a lot of money, and there's an argument. You know, I like to argue both sides that, you know, the artist go out and make the money touring where the money's at the gate. That's where the big money is. And, you know, the record companies

usually don't share in that. They tried two years ago with these 360 deals. They didn't work. But, I mean, they've been, they were charging artists for years, like when records were out, certain percentage of those records would get broke in transit. Makes sense.

So they had a 10% free goods clause, which means they charge an extra 10% because 10% of those records usually get broke. They kept that through digital. Half the contracts. I mean, just start there. Look at the black artists when they started. You know the tales there.

Look at the payoffs, you know, if you've ever read any of the books of the payola for radio. The way these awards shows work, the Grammys and the Oscars. Because there's such horseshit. But you use the word evil. And when you said that, I think of P. Diddy. Is that real?

I have no idea. Never got any. Do you think it's real? I think there was some, if I had to take an educated guess, there's some freaky stuff going on. Is freaky stuff illegal? No. Involved children, screw you. You know, if there's certain, you know, I don't know.

That's the Epstein thing. I don't know if it's... When do we get to see that list? Ask Pam. I know. Ask Pam. But you know, you look at Epstein, you look at Diddy, and then you go to Pizza Gate and you're like, okay, they didn't have children in the basement of that pizza place. But there's something collectively, I think, in our universal mind that we're like, something's wrong.

There are, there's the marketing and selling of children for sex. That is freaking disgusting. See those people should be lined up and shot. Period. There should be no, nothing for there. We should go to medieval times on that, in my opinion. Pedophiles, right?

No, there's just nothing there. I couldn't do enough evil things to the pedophiles. Let's put it that way. But, you know, the other stuff, you know, you see a lot of people in business, this, that, and the other, you know, especially when you're younger starting out, everything's crazy.

You know, I got money and this, that, and the other, and things are wild, you know, but I said from day one, I was like, you guys realize, you get more girls if you treat them really nice. It's just kind of a, right. Right. I don't have to, you know, MIT to figure that out. Yeah.

The lifestyle, did you ever, I mean, I know you did cocaine, but that's not what others have done. Did you live that rock and roll lifestyle? And if so, how did you get out? How did you not? I did, but I was very balanced. I was a single father. custody of my sons since he was very, very young. I mean, he's dropped off on my doorstep at six months and was raising him. And then, of course, when I got some money, came back looking for, you know.

So I pretty much had him the whole time, but had great help with his godmother, my sister, my mother. I mean, just great people. So that really balanced me out. You know, I'd pick my windows and I'd be Mr. Rockstar. But then I had to drive to field trips and, you know, and be dad a lot of time. That really helped me out the most. So it's weird. know that you were Bob Ritchie. No idea. I was thinking of you, Kid Rock, never thought Kid Rock was your name. That's how I would like most people to see. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to sell this American bad. I was thinking, don't screw it up for me. So can we go down that road for a minute, though? We had to go to court the one time and like these people are going to have to get up

there and testify. Like, you know, he's a great guy. So I'm like, oh. No, no, no, no, no. I'm actually making some money with this thing, man. So is it, is it a hard to be one? I mean, there are times when you're like, I'm, I know, are you always, Bob Richie is? I'm jackling Hyde, a little bit of both, you know. And I'd rather enjoy being it. Sometimes I do the, you know, when I'm screwing with people and just try to get their

panties in a bunch, I'm going to post something online. Like, yeah, it's good rock. Yeah. Sometimes I'll point something real poignant. That'll be from Bob Ritchie. Yeah. Sometimes I'll post from both of them. I've kind of enjoyed that.

Yeah, the video between Kid Rock and Bob Ritchie after president, yeah, was elected. Exactly. That's pretty much me right there. Completely two different people. Completely. So was the kid was that, Kid Rock was that? That was Kid Rock. Like the media had been messing with me for how many years, you know, he's just a washed up this, that.

And the meantime, I'm selling out every show, you know, operated at the highest levels in this business. But, you know, they're trying to create this thing because I love Trump, you know, and any little thing I do. It's like yesterday, we got contacted. by TMZ. Apparently I was at this little redneck bar. Sunday night after playing with the president. I was just stopping by. We had dinner and then we had some drinks after. So let's stop this little redneck bar. You know, just me and my brother. Let's just pop in there. It's going to be nobody in there. Pop in there. Having some fun with the few locals that are in the sender. Apparently, I told a girl she was kind of fat. Apparently. She was.

But somebody letting TMZ contacts and they're like, you know, like, we're going to, somebody got a video. You know, these people that can't do nothing but video, everything you do. And they're like, Kid Rock called a girl fat. And I'm like, and I asked my brother, he goes, how are you going to handle it? I go, I only have one question for you. Was she fat? He's like, yeah, I'm like, I was just being honest. I was like, my brother goes, you were actually trying to help her.

He's like, because I'm on this huge health kick. And somehow it came up and I was saying something. She was like, this, that, and the other. And I was like, you are kind of fat. Kind of saying it like that. Like you could, you know, use my program a little bit. Right. I was trying to, you know, I've been saying this to all my friends.

I'm actually getting ready to. shoot a video on my health program because a lot of my fans I think a lot of people in my circle got on board that really cleaned up a lot of eating habits and started doing things and i was like man you know they always say you have influence over people yeah never really realized it like that to people that were close so i was actually trying to help but i was like i don't give a shit about that like the TMZ's like so Elon showed me this new AI thing i posted this thing i was did you see that yeah that's just fun yeah i'm like i'm just trolling people i'm fun how much of Elon is a troll Like I see Grock and then, you know, what is it, insane or something?

Unhinged. Unhinged, Grock. It's genius. And the balls to do that at that level. Like, no corporate entity. No, it's like he's 12. He's the smartest, richest man. And there are times he's like, I'm just going to screw it.

I can relate. It's so great. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. I think it's, you know, I get the trolling thing. I get it. But I think it's, it's, I would call it more non-conform. It's like we're not going to conform to this political correctness.

Nobody can take a joke anymore or somebody hurt my feelings. You know, this and the other that's gone on for it. I mean, it's ruined movies. I know. It's ruined comedy shows. I'm a huge comedy fan. I'm like, we're not going to hear stepbrothers again or like the hangover. I mean, how funny is the guy pulls up?

He's like, paging Dr. Faggot. You're like, it's hilarious. Like, none of my gay friends got offended. None of them cared. You know what I mean? It's just funny. Yeah. That's I think why I like the Tesla. What is it? Cybertruck.

Yeah, I got one. Do you? I love it. I love it. Everybody says it's ugly and I'm like, that's, I think, part of the point. You know, it's completely different. Correct. Mine is a General Lee looks awesome. That's great.

That's great. It's just he's not conforming ever. No. He's just not doing it. So he's also pushing the boundaries. but in an unbelievable way, he's changing so many things for the better for so many people. I mean, just making lives better.

You know, at the end of the day, that's what it is. You mean to tell me you can't have some fun while you're doing that? Yeah. I mean, that's amazing. When people get too serious and take themselves too serious, it's just, it looks miserable. How concerned are you? Do you, are you up on the AI artificial general intelligence or?

Yeah, that's all I use. Singularity. I don't use Google search anymore. Yeah. You'll use AI. Yeah. Grock? I am now.

Yeah. I didn't see that on Hinge thing until Sunday. I was like, he literally just took all the, I was using Chad GPT. He literally just took all their users and they're like, what? I know. So I can actually get the info I want, but I can also have some like complete bonkers fun with this. Yeah. I'm like, right there he wins.

I'm like, and I invested in Tesla a while back, and I am not the electric. car guy. I was, I'm the muscle car, this, that, the other, my car collection. I'm like, if I'd get one and I like got that thing and I was like, oh my God, my mind's blown. I'm, I told him, I go, I don't think you know you created the greatest farm truck ever. I doubt you guys, you and your engineers were thinking of this. I'm like, but as someone who has a farm and likes to hunt and likes the outdoors, I'm like, I don't drive my can't am anymore. My Polaris. I like, I got a long gun locked in the front. I got my pistol here. If I see a skunk or a coyote that we trapped or something. I go, I drive by wild turkeys or, you know, deer.

That would be a 10-point bucks sitting there. That thing won't even move. It doesn't know what that car is. It makes no noise. It's just sitting there. I'm like, this is, and it goes anywhere. It goes right up and down. My mountain's no problem. I'm like, he goes, yeah, we didn't design it for that. What a surprise. Never know how someone's going to use. I know, I know, I know. I know. I know. You have a car collection? What do you have? I've sold a few. I just sold one. I had a 1930, V-16. Cadillac. One of the first

one of the last few left, but it just sat there for years. I sold that I got a lot of dodges. I love, that's what I love about Leno is he, they have to be driven. Drive it. Drive it, drive it, drive it, drive it. I don't drive. I like to drink beer. So I'm always being driven.

Okay, well that does probably. I drive to the dentist. Yeah, that's probably a good thing. My granddaughter's like dance recitals. The I read that you used to say you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Yep. Would you still describe yourself as that?

Well, until that transgender stuff came up. Right. I was like, these people are just nuts. So you didn't. I was like, if I got gay people in my band, you know, everyone's got gay family member or something like this. I don't know what to make of it still, but I don't care. Yeah.

I really don't care what anybody does. Right. You don't shove it down her throats. Don't want to teach them a grandchild. children is like teach them out of right and do arithmetic and stuff you know be socially you know conscious and you know to a certain degree and you know want a better world and treat people right and then it's just and then it got too far I'm like come on man it's just you know so I'm still socially liberal I would say I'm like live and let live to a certain extent but then it just got

too nuts yeah I mean you tell me that's not a freaking mental illness I'm like you know all these different things that happen with these shooters and this that and the other You know, there's too many nutty people out there to begin with, like, you know, Ted Nugent said, and I agree with him. He said at that dinner, actually, at the White House, he's like, we're talking politics a little bit. And I'm like, I just shut up and eat. Like, I don't, I don't, I'm not really, you know, self-educated. This is where I need to be spouting out stuff right now. You know, what should I do about North Korea?

I'm like, p. But Ted, he goes, we started talking about it. He goes, sir, I need to bring the nut houses back. He goes, remember they got rid of all the nut houses? and those people got nowhere to go now, and now they're just running around the streets. Or in Congress. Or Congress.

True. We saw I'm sitting on that side. It's amazing to me how bat crap crazy everybody is, and then they have switched places with us. I used to be... It was not cool to be conservative. No, no. It is now.

It's starting to be. It's starting to be. Trump made the party. Wouldn't he? Yeah. You know, who was buttoned up and, you know, this, that, and the other. You know, is someone who made a career out of, you know, using four-letter words, you know, pushing the envelope and being a little wild, this, that, and the other. But still had those values from, you know, instilled me growing up.

Yeah, it's completely changed immensely, as you know. He still is buttoned up to some degree. When he has to be, he's buttoned up. Yeah. When he's just a regular guy, he's not buttoned up. And that's what I want out of a problem. president to some degree. I want, you know, he is so unpredictable if you don't know him. If you don't get it, he is so damn unpredictable that he's just...

Which the best negotiators are. Right. He's just running circles around everybody and everybody's like, this is crazy. Yeah, you know why? Because you're playing the game the old way. It's over. It's over. I've sold more things off that game for years. Like the press just can't, because now it's a point where they have to get clicks and views, you know, to make money and all this stuff. So I just use them for it. I got something to promote. You know, it used to be, okay, we got to go to Europe for this amount of time.

We have to spend a week in New York City. We have to go to L.A., blah, blah, blah. Now I just, you know, like, you know, call Oprah a bad name and say, I got a new record coming out. Everybody knows about it. I'm like, that was easy. Because they're panting. You know, if they would just use the old thing, just he'll tire himself out, just ignore them. Yeah.

They can't. No, they can't. They can't. They can't. You have no problem letting everybody, you know, the politicians especially, they don't want anybody. I am a small town guy. I grew up in a middle class. If I heard Kamala Harris say middle class family one more time, I was going to hang myself.

You're a kind of guy, and I don't, I don't think it's different, but I think politicians would. you're like, I don't care. I got, yeah, I made a lot of money. Big deal. American dream. Right, American dream. But you still have the values. I don't think they understand

that it's not the amount of money that you have or anything else. Maybe that changes them, but it doesn't have to change you. You can still be the guy who, like Donald Trump loves people. He just loves them. Incredible. He's got,

And wants to be loved. Right. What a concept. And everything is shattering everything that is this bogus plastic has been bogus plastic world. Do we, do we, what does the world look like at the end of four years? Hopefully it looks like President J.D. Vance. Hopefully to me that's what it looks like. Do you travel Europe?

I hope we can bring, I really hope we can, I'm actually going to try to unite this country. And I'm starting the end of the month, taking Bill Maher to the White House for dinner. This guy who's done nothing but talk smack about the president for since day one. But he's a comedian too. And, you know, I can have conversations with him. You know, if you don't get into Trump, because I'm like, I fucking love him. I'm like, I don't. I'm like, let's talk about other things.

We can find common ground. He's actually, you know, more reasonable than a lot of people on the right would think. Oh, I think, especially the last maybe four years or whatever. So I said to him, I was doing his podcast and I said, if I can hook you guys up, this, that, and the other. And trust me, there's a lot more people deserving at that table, you know, for dinner. So it's a big deal to me to, you know, bring him there and even have the president be like, yeah, do it. Let's do it. I go, man, what would it say to this country?

Let's start at the top where you, you know, very public figures, him television comedian, you president of the president of the president of the president. free world. You know, we could just break bread and have some laughs, take a picture and be like, hey, you know, we don't agree on everything, but we got along. Does that send, does that start to send a message to people or do they just think I'm an idiot? Yeah. You know, just Bill Maher looks soft for going. Does Trump look weak? Like, I'm like, man, I think we just got to start somewhere like there and be like, look, man, we just had dinner. We had some laughs. We have fun. Like maybe call that family member that you got into it over politics or that person, you know, and I'm just at the school that you know you don't like to talk to anymore that used to have a coffee with in the morning.

Maybe he's get back with him and be like, look, man, it's okay. Everybody calm down a little bit. Anybody that is not pushing that is anybody who is saying, don't talk to your family member. You've heard the stories. Yeah. But it's just evil. Yeah. I had one person to it. One person I could really, me and Cheryl just got into it over like uncontroll. And we've had some modest conversations about it and things. And then I was just like, Yeah, it's not, I still love her to death. You know, she's like a sister to me. You know, but it's like, yeah, she's not first call anymore on the dinner list, you know, on the dinner invite.

Yeah, that's too bad. And I'm not on hers. I don't believe either. I would, I would. But I know we can still be cordial and have some laughs in a room, you know. Are you, do you travel to Europe very often? No. Did you see what happened with Jady Vance over in Europe a couple weeks ago? What a speech?

Yeah. I saw a speech thought it was awesome. Awesome, right? Did you see the foreign minister of Germany after it was over? No. Openly wept and said, I learned a lot this week after listening to his speech. We no longer have as much as we thought we had in common with the Americans. And I thought, if that's actually what you believe, I don't want to be a NATO.

I don't, I don't, why? I mean, you're on the other. As soon as the red flag went up with it, it's crying, you're like, Yeah. Eat it. Especially a German. Yeah. It's supposed to be tough, stoic.

Right. You know, like, we don't laugh at anything. Right. Right. But do we have, do we have stuff in common? Do we have enough in common? Because it seems to me that we're in a... It gets drowned out by the media a lot.

Yes. We all have a ton in common, but, you know, they like to keep us polarizing that media. Yeah, on all sides. You know, to be fair, to be fair, on all sides. A lot more on the left side. But, I mean, everything's become this social media, freaking media nightmare. It's just like, it's just, there's too much information. Yeah.

I don't, all me and my friends do is send memes to each other. And I love that. That's great. I'm like, I don't want to hear about your trip. I don't want to see it on Facebook or, you know, the tweets or whatever. Like, and we get together and we golf, we have dinner or whatever. something to talk about. We can catch up at old times. I was like, don't text me happy birthday, Merry Christmas, happy Thanksgiving, happy Fourth of July. If it's really that big of a deal,

send me a card. Otherwise, I'm not worried about it. I was like, I just don't need 300 texts coming in. Like, happy birthday. I'm like, come on, man. It's, you know, it's just, it's annoying. Tell me about the concert coming up this summer. I'm doing 19 shows And you know I've usually been like not Not too big on politics in the show Just try to entertain people

This is the exact opposite These are mega rallies Really Yeah thousand percent I put together a whole new show I'm only doing 19 I'm doing seven arenas Which are going to be a blast And then I do this rock the country music festival

Was just a No one had ever started a music festival For hardworking people who love this country Yeah Like, well, it used to be, I mean, but now it's got this. Hank Williams, Leonard Skinnerd, Nickleback. I mean, that's, that's, that was for hardworking America. We do those in very small towns, middle of fields or, you know, public places like these very, I mean, you don't know what these towns on.

I know, why? And we did on our first year, last year, I have ownership in that, so I really got to help shape and mold it. And it's literally, I mean, our lighting rig out by the soundboard is a cross. just some really cool stuff there's thousands of American flags we put up everywhere it's just to celebrate America listening to music and like these people

are the greatest people and I don't just say that because they're paying money to come to my stuff I'm not that shallow but I mean literally I've heard this from everybody you can walk through this rock and roll outlaw country crowd with 30,000 people there

excuse me you can walk right through to the bathroom walk back no static no food no fights. I think we had a couple drunk drivings. Like it was just, this things don't, we have more problems in my hockey talking national. I know it's a couple thousand people.

I know. It's, it's, uh, we have that with our audience. We did a event in Washington. Remember, these people are partying. They're partying hard. Right. They're drinking. They got their campers. They're carrying on. Usually when you add alcohol to any situation, you know, somebody's going to get into it.

But it's still, there is something about the American that everybody in the media has forgotten. That we generally, I mean, I think... And we felt forgotten. Yeah. That's why he won in the first place.

Absolutely. And I think that's why he's doing so well right now. He's... I've never seen a president who said, I'm writing down everything. Remind me, I said on stage... And then I'm just going to start not checking them off in priority order.

Never seen that. Have you ever seen that? No. Never seen that. Talked about that with a million friends, too. Yeah. Same thing. It's like, he's just checking that list off like, quip, quip, quip. And that shows, for the first time, a politician who does not forget. He's not using you.

He's not coming out and saying, I'm just like you, and I'm going to do these things, and then you get in and you forget it. You like my shiny ring? Right. Right. It's, I've never seen anything like it. And this is the first guy, this, you know, the first administration that started like, hey, let's look where our money's being spent.

I mean, that is bananas. I know, especially supporting politicians through the years, this, that, and the other, I'm like, why don't you, mother, why don't you people look for this? Like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, this is the, like, it's. But I don't know if we could have done it as at least as effectively as Musk can do it because of AI. True.

I mean, you know, in three years from now, the AI we have gone over the budget, oh, it's going to be, yeah, we're going to know everything about these politicians. thing, you know, I've been doing research for years, have hired attorneys at certain points, you know, people to get info, this, that, and the other, sometimes I always don't give it to you in their yearly reports. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This, that, and the other. Not now.

AI. It's all there. You worried about art with AI? Not really. Do you know everybody else is? There's a group that has tested 500,000 songs and rank them. Out of the top 10, the top five are anything. AI songs.

Yeah, we better get better as songwriters. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Well, the way I figured I actually met with a young man and had some other prominent musicians and record heads to have an off-the-record conversation about AI and music. And the app's called Suno. And it's bananas because it's pretty dang good. For writing music? For it produces music.

See, what Spotify's doing is a lot of their, you know, they have to pay money every time they play one of our songs. They're creating tons of you put on a beach. A beach playlist that has 100 songs. 20 of those songs might be by some artists. You never heard of because AI created it. They don't have to pay anybody. Wow. But are they using our stuff to make it?

Yeah. But the way I looked at is I looked at Napster when that started. And I was like, what's going on? And, you know, all the artists were up in arms and the record companies wanted us to get behind. You know, they're stealing their pirating music. And I'm like, hold on. Are they stealing from the record companies? Like, stealing from everybody.

I'm like, ha, good. I care less. I make all my money live. But now with AI, I'm like, so I'm asking this guy, and I'm like, so I can give you some acapellas of my vocals, and you can model my voice, and then you can put it on your system, and however many people want to write songs for me with my voice, can write them. He's like, yep, I'm like.

That's kind of cool. So I could have like 100,000 people writing. Now, there's going to be some funny ones, and they're like, you know, kid rock, Joe Biden, like, blah, blah, blah. I get it. I'll laugh at those. But let's say I got a million people writing songs for me. If one of those person nails it,

and they come up with this, you know, this life-changing song. It's great. I go play it live. Yeah. I'm like, I don't, I'm not seeing the evil in here yet, you know, the record companies and managers get all the artists up in arms about. We're not going to stop it.

I know that much. No. You are not going to stop it. No. So it's like, let's figure out how we use it as a new tool the best, like anything else in life. Biennue at board of Via Rai. Embarked and Profite.

Embarked and. Relax. Ciroat. Bookine. Oh, that also. And profite. Villaray, the voice that we love. Who is the influence in your life musically?

I mean, you've worked with almost everybody. And you're weird. You break all of the rules. You've rap, country. Isn't that what rock and roll supposed to be? Yeah, it is. But nobody does that. Nobody does that.

So what was your musical influence? It was everything. I mean, the real big ones at the top was, you know, my parents' record collection when I was young, that was just all great classic rock, you know. Not real country, more outlaw country music, whether it was like I said, the whalens and things like that, the Eagles and stuff like that.

Of course, Bob Sheger's, you know, religion growing up and still is in my household so proud to call him a friend. But then when I got into hip-hop, that changed everything for me. You know, the early stuff, but it was really like when stuff went mainstream, like we're on DMC and everything from that era. And then I didn't figure it out until I was older.

I was like, there's literally been, you know, outside of you want to go back to the Celtic music, which created, you know, this and the other. But American music is like basically jazz and blues spawned everything. Everything. Everything. Until hip hop came along. And once rap came along, it was like,

that has its fingerprints on every form of music now since then. So I didn't get to witness the birth of the blues or really, you know, the 50s and 60s and stuff, but I got to witness that. And to me, it kind of lines, has a lot of parallels with blues and jazz, like what hip-hop's done. Do I like a lot of the new hip-hop? No, I don't. I'm more old-school hip-hop, but that's because I'm old, I would assume. Right. What are the parallels? That blues and jazz spawned everything up until hip-hop, and now hip-hop has its fingerprints

on everything. I don't care if it's country music, you know, rock and roll music, whatever. There's tingees of hip-hop all over it, just like any of those. records up until you know up until the late 70s or wherever when hip hop started 80s started coming in they were all had had the touches of jazz and blues on them whether it was soul music was rock and roll whether it was country or whatever so you but you were you into that what's that blues and I was I mean I would listen to those records just I would listen to music all the time but then when hip hop really came I started more to emulate it you know even though I had that rock and roll we had a piano and there was an old guitar lane around I

noodle here and there and then started screwed up my mom's aerobics turntable trying to scratch records so my parents had no clue what i was doing with any of this you know in romeo michigan there was not right did you did you have the uh talk with your parents or anybody in your family of this isn't really a career it's i mean it's a good little my whole life yeah yeah yeah i didn't go to college i barely made it out of high school i was so focused on music yeah i was well it was can't can't he just do this as a hobby on the weekends I got the same thing I got the same thing

I was doing radio when I was 13 years old and I got the speeches 13 Yeah I got the speeches From my family And you know this is a nice hobby But you know

It's probably not gonna work out for you I'm like well Sometimes the best motivation is it not Exactly right Exactly right It has been great to talk to you Great to talk to you too Thank you for

Thanks for having the balls to stand up And just be who you are Thank you. I get that compliment a lot. It's one of the best ones I get. That and how wonderful my son is. Those two compliments mean a lot. I love this song. I love this and this concert was great. But it's like, thanks for having the balls to stand up. It means a lot now, especially where we've come to now. It's been a long journey. And I have a terrific son and grandchildren. Good. Great talking to you. Thank you. Thank you. God bless. Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate. and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.