The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 283 | URGENT RELEASE: He Says Islam DESTROYED the UK. Is America Next? | Tommy Robinson | The Glenn Beck Podcast
Episode Date: March 18, 2026“The problem is Islam. The problem is Muhammad,” says Tommy Robinson, who came from England to warn America about how the far Left is using Muslim immigrants to shore up its own political power. A...fter watching the unchecked rise of Islam in his hometown in England, he “picked up a camera and became a journalist,” documenting the gut-wrenching reality of Pakistani rape gangs, “chemical jihad,” and the slow death of free speech in the United Kingdom. Despite facing defamation, legal challenges, and prison time for refusing to censor his opinion about the incompatibility of Islam with the West, Tommy unflinchingly exposes the members of the Labour Party, the BBC, and the mainstream media complicit in the decline of Britain. Solitary confinement was meant to break his spirit, but his time in America and the inspiration of men like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are “healing” him. “Our hope has come from America.” Warning: Tommy Robinson is a proper British man who curses like a “football hooligan.” GLENN’S SPONSORS: Byrna: Byrna is the best alternative to deadly force. Visit https://byrna.com/GLENN for a 10% discount. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You know the phrase Islam is religion apiece. It was never said in history to a George
Buehberg. These will soon be Islamic states with nuclear missiles.
I believe I'm meant to be doing this.
I don't believe I have a choice.
The figures out of Afghanistan show 99% want Sharia.
Pakistan, upwards of 80%.
Iraq, 65%.
Tommy, for anybody who doesn't know who you are,
tell me what you did before you became Tommy Robinson.
I lived a normal life.
Doing what?
I left school.
I qualified as an aeronautical engineer for Britannia Airways,
which has now become 2y.
Then I stopped that and I set up a plumbing business.
I had a salarium shop and I got into property.
So before I become Tommy Robinson,
I had seven properties, two successful companies and a young family.
So you were a serial entrepreneur.
Yeah, I was on my way.
I wonder where I always say I had seven properties at that point.
I wonder where I'd be if I didn't open my mouth.
Yeah.
And what did you open your mouth?
What was the first thing you said that got you in trouble?
I started a protest movement against a terrorist organization in my hometown,
which is what started it.
There was a soldier's homecoming parade in 2009.
Prior to that, back in 2004,
was the first ever demonstration
I'd organised when I was 21.
And I organised a demonstration
called Ban the Luton Taliban.
And it was because Amzradine,
they are now a prescribed terrorist organisation.
Their head office was in my town.
So my town,
Luton, when I was born in 1982,
there was one mosque, there's now 45.
We've got a 45, 50% Muslim population.
I've seen the different
I've seen the problems
the fertilizer bomb plot
Luton the 7-7 launch pad
for the bomb plot Luton
the Stockholm bomber
who's suicide attack
Luton
another suicide attack
in Iraq Luton
the territorial army
bomb plot
Luton
I could carry on
the limousine bomb plot
Luton
so entire ISIS
families went to fight
for ISIS
Luton kids I grew up with
all in jail
for being part of ISIS
so Luke I've seen it
and remember
Luton's only got
200,000 population, and so you're talking 100,000 Muslims,
this has all come from my hometown.
Jeez.
So I've watched it all.
So then you started the English Defense League.
English Defense League.
So first of 2004, I organized my first protest,
which was called Bandalut and Taliban,
when I thought you could just do this,
and I made leaflets.
And the leaflet ended up on the front page of my local newspaper.
And I gave a presentation at Oxford University,
where I went back into the library,
just to prove some points.
I went back into the library
and I went back through the old newspapers
and got the newspaper from 2004
and the front page was my leaflet.
And I read that leaflet at Oxford
and it said,
whites and blacks
are being religiously and racially targeted
in this town.
No one's stopping it.
The police are not doing anything about it.
It made the point that if we know
that these shops and these businesses
within the Islamic community
are using drugs
to get young children hooked on drugs
to prostitute them in pedophilic gangs.
This is now called grooming.
I said,
why are the police not?
doing anything about it. And I had prior knowledge to that because it happened to my cousin. She was a
victim. She woke up naked with groups of Muslim men raping her. She is. At 13, 14 years old.
The police went, the family went to the police. Their response, she's a drug addict. She's a drug addict because
got her into a position on drugs as a child. They've took her. But I knew so many girls
grown up with that are just taken, taken from their families. And the police and the response,
which I didn't realize was a nationwide problem. I'd seen all these problems in Luton. I organized
this first demonstration.
And I organized it in response to,
do you remember the Beslam School Massacre?
Oh, yeah.
So many people,
everyone has a moment that woke them up.
That was my moment.
Yeah, it was one for me too.
And for me, it was the fact that,
so anyone who doesn't,
children were in a school,
jihadists come and took over the school.
The parents are outside the school.
I can still see the images
every time I talk about this.
And they start butchering their children in the school.
And the parents are on their knees,
screaming, crying,
and they can't do anything because their kids are getting a mask in school.
For me, when I saw that, I thought,
but that isn't one crazy man.
There's a large group of these who share the thought that they can do this.
What makes them do that?
So then I started looking.
And that's when I come across Amazradine,
who had now prescribed 60% of British Muslims in jail for terrorism
at ex-members of this group.
This group's head office was in my town.
The Luton was named by the CIA as the epicenter for terrorist activists.
in Europe. So I grew up learning
and I looked into this group and when I started
looking into them, I found a video of
them, their members, the second in command
is named Safe for Islam. It translates as
a sword of Islam. And they were sitting
in a chicken shop in my town and they were saying
that an attack like this
on a British school would be justified.
That's when I organised my first protest.
That's when I saw, I thought, who the hell is
this? And I was a young
full of testosterone, a young English lad
and I just in my mind I thought, they
can't be doing this. So I went, I started looking at the
group and I went to where they stand every Saturday in our town centre where they were
openly calling for jihad openly recruiting to send people to fight against our forces and your
forces in afghanistan in iraq at the time and i went up to the police officer there and said
how how are these not doing this what's going on right she said it's free speech so i say okay
you let's see if it's free speech next week and then the next week we turned up 200 men um which was
my first ever protest which is and i'll say 200
men, I gravitated towards a football culture in the UK as a youngster.
So on a Saturday, we'd get together all young English men and we'd go to football.
And I guess our football group was a bit of resistance to the terrorism and the jihad and the rape gangs in the town.
We'd come together as young men and we didn't want to tolerate it.
And then, but the response from that, I think...
Football, you recalled football hooligans.
Yeah.
I don't even know what that is.
But football in America is different than soccer, the soccer crowd can get.
like a hockey game could break out at any time.
So there's a history in Luton of groups of men
elevated towards each football club
and then on a Saturday, they'd fight each other.
I'm 43 years old now, so I'm a different man
than I was when I was younger.
Right, right, right.
But as a young star, that's what I say,
it's part of the culture.
My family members I looked up to,
men I looked up to were part of this scene.
But it's not some people,
because it sounds moronic, yeah.
A lot of stuff we do when we're young men
is moronic.
But it's not men turn up with weapons to fight each other.
It's men would have a fight and then they'd shake hands after.
They'd have a level of respect for each other.
It wouldn't be 10 men attacking one man.
It says, meet in the side of the street, have a punch up,
and then we'll all go and have a beer.
I guess I think it's tribalism.
So I've done that.
But the response I received from that first demonstration
when I used my real name, Stephen Lennon is my real name,
was every Pakistani gang.
I named the gang.
So in my first leaflet, I named a gang called the Gambinos, not very original on their part, but that's a Pakistani mafia mob that's in my town.
They control the drugs, the heroin, finance the terrorism.
So 2004, in my leaflet, I named them.
I called them out.
And the response was it, I was a target for all of them after that.
So, and three years later, the national newspapers, and I show this at Oxford University, my only crime is being ahead of the game, ahead of the curve.
Because 2007 or 2008, national newspapers, the Daily Mirror, the Trinity,
group. They run a headline and it said chemical jihad launched by gangs. And what they said
is back then is that the drug gangs are using heroin to destroy the British communities
and then they're using the money from it to fund the terrorism. Yeah. So this is what I said in
my leaflet. Right. Three years earlier, just as a young lad from Luton, I'd seen it, observed it.
I knew the gang members. I grew up with them. I knew what they're up to. I knew the bad mosques.
I knew the good mosques. So I had a life experience.
in this and I spoke about it and then that's 2004 from that point I was a target for all the gangs
if I if I went out in Luton town centre or on a night out I'd go out in a group of 20 men footballs
football lads because I couldn't go out because I'd have a relentless attack by all the anti-Pakistani
gangs that saw me they were like he spoke up you're not allowed to speak up fast forward
2009 we have a soldier's homecoming parade the same group but by this point I've got I'm on
I'm moving on my life.
I've got business.
I've got a family.
I'm succeeding.
And there was a soldier's homecoming parade,
which was attacked by the same group of terrorists.
They weren't terrorists,
or they weren't label terrorists at this point.
The government prescribed them as a terrorist organization
once we tackled them.
But we formed then a movement in Luton
called the United People of Luton,
which was to come together.
After they attacked our soldiers,
they were taken through our town hall by the police.
And I remember watching it.
It was a Tuesday morning, and I went down to pay my respects.
And we love our armed forces.
You have an immense amount respect in America.
I wish our armed forces got the level of gratitude that yours do.
But we respect and love our armed forces.
Now, anytime anyone mentions the town of Luton,
which is part of my identity, is what I love, that's where I'm from,
is to do a terrorism, jihad, rape, murder, war.
So we had a soldier's home camp parade,
and worldwide news was our soldiers getting attacked by jihadists in our town.
and the government council police
they brought them through our town hall to do it
so I remember watching them go through the town hall
thinking what's happening here
and the soldiers are marching down the back of the town hall
the police brought them out to the front
to spit on them
they spat in one of the soldiers and mum's faces
they now in that regiment
it's the Royal Angram Regiment
our local regiment
a boy from our estate had died
26 Scott Monteridge
Michael Swain had lost his legs
they lost their leg for us
and this was their moment of freedom
in our town and they faced an attack.
And it wasn't that these groups attacked them
because I know I think these groups think.
I know them.
I know how they think.
I know their jihadist mindset.
For me, it was, you let them do this?
The government, the police, they let them do this.
So we then wanted to get to,
I set up the first demonstration,
which was to get to our town hall
and get to the war memorial to pay respects.
And the police crushed us.
The police attacked us.
Like three weeks later it was.
Police come out of batons on horses.
they searched us and I made a documented video of it
I paid a wedding I knew what would happen
because I'm from Luton I know how the police treat us
and I know how they treat them
so I hired a wedding a wedding videographer
it was a shock to him
I hired a wedding videographer and said I want you to just spend
the day of us and film everything
and I remember it cost me 450 pound
but I thought I need to show people the difference
in how they're treated and we're treated
and when they attacked our soldiers they arrested our people that day
they didn't arrest them they turned their batons
on us again that day not on them
They literally have become so scared.
It's hard to explain.
They just don't, they'd never said no to the Islamic community.
They don't get a no for anything.
Everything's a yes.
Everything to jump, how high.
They literally are appeased in such a manner.
Okay, so let me stop here for a second.
The first part of this story reminds me in some ways of things that I have experienced
and I remember I was probably 35, 38 somewhere in that area.
When I first started talking about some of these things and warning.
and I honestly thought that the journalist would be honest,
that I could show them, here's the evidence, you know, look, they're saying this,
and here's the evidence, and here's what they're doing,
and that they would go, oh, I didn't see that.
You know what I mean?
They might hate me, but they would at least pursue.
That was the first shot where I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is not what I thought.
then when the government got involved and the government was not to the extent where you have seen it,
I was completely disillusioned.
You had to have gone through that exact same thing.
It was for me, I was leading a, when we started, I didn't know politics at all.
I'd never looked at politics.
And that's the problem with many of us from my background, working class men.
We don't care.
We don't vote.
I don't know anyone that's voted.
So we don't vote.
Kirstam was elected off 9 million votes.
20 million didn't vote.
You know, that's the problem here, yeah?
I think 86 million Americans didn't vote.
But we just didn't care.
We just didn't care about politics.
And we weren't rich enough or poor enough for it to really affect us.
It's the same difference everywhere.
So this is our naive mentality at the time.
But we didn't care about politics.
I didn't know there was left-wing or right-wing newspapers.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I just didn't care, yeah?
Just growing up, working, trying to progress.
Not interested.
Then when I turned up for my first meeting with a newspaper
when I set up the first protest
And it was the Guardian
I had no idea
And my two friends who come with me
Both black lad
Both black English lads
I've turned up to a meeting
Sat and done an interview thinking around
And then the newspaper story come out
And I'm like, what the hell?
They're calling me a racist
They totally admitted the fact I've turned up with two non-whites
We've done things at the start
We burnt Nazi flags
Luton, Luton is one of the most diverse towns.
My friends, all of us,
we're all the sons of immigrants, pretty much,
yeah.
Luton has got a divide through religious, not race.
We've never had it, yeah?
So white and black's always been like this.
Always, you know, there's no difference.
We all integrate, assimilate,
we'll all get on well.
So I then started reading,
and the real shock for me,
when we left Luton,
we went to Birmingham,
50 of us, to protest again against the terrorist group there.
And when we went there,
we just got obliterated,
attacked by gangs,
and there was a,
There was a picture, and I remember there was a lad at a bus stop, an English lad.
He wasn't with us.
We're in a green top.
And he got violently beaten.
And there's a picture that went in the newspapers,
and it was five Muslims with their feet in the air jumping on his head.
And it read, a fascist is attacked by anti-fascists.
And I read it and went, what the hell are we up against?
Like, what is this?
I just could not understand the lies the deceit.
And then I realized, when I started,
I knew from my experience in 2004
if you try and talk about this
Islam, gangs, rapes,
if you try and speak about the terrorism,
they're going to come for you
because I'd had four years of it.
So I then thought, right,
I'm going to use a different name,
Tommy Robinson.
I'm going to hide my face
and try and talk about these issues,
which is how I started.
No one knew who I was for about a year
because I wanted to protect my family.
But I was ready for the threats
and the violence because I knew that it had come.
I was not ready for the weight of the British state.
I just had no idea.
The country I thought I lived in, I very quickly realized, is not the country I live in.
I thought, I've got the Magna Car tattooed here.
I've got, I thought we're the land of the free.
We have democracy.
We have free speech.
Then I exercise my free speech.
Realised very quickly, wow.
No doubt.
In 2009, when I set up this movement, in the first three weeks in, police dawn raids,
in the first six months, three big police raids, froze my assets, froze my assets,
froze my businesses. You know the Patriots Act, they weaponized against your citizens.
Well, they weaponized terrorism legislation where they didn't need a crime. They came in looking
for a crime. Oh my gosh. They came in. They went from- That's why we broke away from you guys.
You're back to that, huh? They went through every member of my family's financial history. Every member.
They got warrants without us even knowing. My mum, my dad. And they went through everyone I'm linked to.
And they went back six years on every member to look for anything. Oh my gosh.
And what they got was someone, my brother-in-law,
lying about how much he earned to get a mortgage,
didn't defraud the mortgage company.
We had a thing called self-certification mortgages in the UK.
It took them four years to get to this point.
So they came in, and for four years, they froze my assets.
So I had, I was doing very successful, yeah.
They froze my banks.
They froze my companies.
They closed my companies.
They went to everyone I worked with in my company.
So I had a successful plumbing company.
We were doing 20 houses, 30 houses.
They went to all the company owners that give us contracts.
They sat them down.
They were investigating.
me for money laundering. No prosecution for money laundering. They prosecuted me for tax evasion.
I've got not guilty. But what they done is when they got their list of people, they then got
onto a court position where they said they were prosecuting them. My ex-wife was six months pregnant
at the time when they arrested her. They questioned her for six hours, three, four times over the
space of those four years. Kept bringing her in, sitting her interviewer, yeah? And then when it got
to prosecution, they offered me the deal, plead guilty to this, we drop them all. So I had to
And then they used this in my Wikipedia, prosecuted for mortgage fraud. No. No mortgage company
lost any money. None of them were my mortgages. I had seven mortgages between me and my wife.
There was no fraudulent in any of them. My brother-in-law, who was young, who bought a house,
done a house up, sold it, paid the mortgage company back every penny. I got 18 months in prison.
I took a deal. Because if it didn't take the deal, when I walk the streets, people can see the videos,
was I faced confrontation and violence.
No one ever knew who my ex-wife was.
So they were going to put her in prosecution.
Whether she gets a not guilty or not,
the weapon of the media,
which I realised under a totalitarian state,
they have weapons, the judiciary, the media.
The European Union, these places are not free places.
They are tyrannical regimes.
And you can't, and when you try and speak about an issue,
you have to understand as well,
which we'll get onto the crime of the rape,
of a generation of our daughters.
When I started talking about this, no one knew.
And they'd successfully conspired to cover this up for 30 years.
So when someone starts talking with thousands of young men on the street
and the media from around the world are watching and listening
and we're using social media against them
and we're talking about an issue that they've covered up.
Well, all the people who've covered up
over those 30 years have rose into prominence, into power.
Then that, for example, I'll get on it.
The robber and rape gangs, which I'll explain in detail as we go on.
The Rovran Rape and Rape and Rape and Rape and Kidnapping Children.
And it was brought to light in 2014, the cases come up.
We were talking about this from 2009.
Well, the police officer in charge in those years of allowing the children to be raped,
and we know from government reports now that they all knew it and they let it happen.
Well, he's no longer in charge of Rovran Police Force.
He's in charge of counterterrorism.
The councillors, who are councillors at a time,
and no longer councillors for the Labour Party, they're now members of Parliament.
So all these people have risen up.
They've conspired to hide a crime
because they're multiple reasons.
They're fearful of upsetting the Islamic community
because if you upset them, they get violent.
The same reason our government this week,
last two weeks, refused to stand with you, America.
They don't know what to do.
Because if we stand with America
and stand on our principles and our values...
You've got hell on your hands.
We've got four or five million Muslims here.
Many of them unintegrated or assimilated
and many of them willing to participate in violence.
So the two countries,
if you look at the countries that recognize,
the Palestinian state
at a time
when hostages
were still being held
they could have used
that recognition
said we'll recognise
your state
let the hostages go
they didn't
so they didn't even do that
yeah
they just recognise
a Palestinian state
which countries
France
they've got the most
terrorist offences
in the or G had
Britain
all these countries now
and America will be
no different
the path you're on
at the minute
because I'm looking
and learning
as I get in
I know
you're going to be
no different
because you're going
to be in a position
in 10 years time
where you've got
25 million Muslims
they're armed
and if you declare war on any of these Islamic states, as you're seeing,
what have you had four successful attacks in two weeks?
Five with the ones that are planned.
Now, it's just a numbers game.
You're at 1%.
If you were at 10%, you'd have had 40 attacks.
So it's just a numbers game.
And that can be proven by the figures of,
whether you look at rapes or crime or terrorism or jihad,
the most jihad attacks and the most crime is in France,
because France has the biggest Islamic community.
Then it's Britain, stroke Germany, we've had the same.
So it's just a numbers game.
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Why was this done to us?
Why was it done?
Yeah.
I'll say with America,
it's not a mistake.
None of it's a mistake.
No, I agree with that.
And this has been admitted.
Lead Labor politicians
opened the borders
to rub the right's nose in it.
But the right,
there's a combination of things here
where people are importing voters
and there's that power
because that's what they're doing.
Say, if I look at the United States
and just one point,
Minnesota,
Somalians come from the hottest place in the planet.
Why are they in Minnesota?
Because our State Department put them there.
Do you think they chose Minnesota?
No.
They've been positioned in Minnesota.
So there's a position in Minnesota and now Texas, they're coming for Texas.
Because if they take Texas, they take the soul of the United States, and they know that.
So there's not, and this isn't a mistake.
None of it, as I said, I've been preparing for a presentation of doing this Thursday.
They've been pretty open.
Lead Islamic voices in 1989.
We're telling the Islamic community in the United States
how they're going to work,
what they're going to do to end Western civilization here.
You've got the documents found,
the Muslim Brotherhood documentation, documents found.
This has all been planned,
but it's being very fastly accelerated right now.
Now, why is it done in Europe?
When we look at the influx on the open border immigration,
say, for example, Tony Blair,
leader of the Labour Party, your Democrat Party,
openly said why they open the borders.
So Angela Merkel this week,
last week has admitted in an interview
that she opened the borders and now
the migrants that they let in, they need to
vote to stop the AFD, the alternative
for Deutscheland, who are the Patriarch
Nationalist Party. So she's saying
we let you in, you need to vote for us.
That's what this has been. And your swing states,
I looked at your swing states,
illegal immigration up 700%.
There would never been a swing
state again. If you didn't elect Donald Trump in this election
I know. There would never have been
another one. You would have never won
an election again. So this is the
importation of a new vote bank, and that vote bank organizes itself. Again, I've just looked at covert
footage from Mandani's right, a man, who was, we're hopefully going to use this on Thursday,
who said, the way they've done it, we went to 100 mosques a week, because the Muslim community
will vote for who the Imam tells them to. And to an American audience, I can just tell you my life
in Lewam, we now, white English, we're irrelevant. And we're irrelevant because the leader of the
Council and Mosques. I looked at this in 2013 when I was in my hometown, I was there,
and I went on the government website and looked at the projected growth forecast for the
community, different communities. The Pakistani and Bangladeshi community were going to increase
by 70 to 77% by 2030. By 2030, 17-year period. That was the projected growth forecast.
We actually know that their community over a 10-year period went up 48% the 10 years prior.
So when it increases by 70 to 70%, 7%, the white and black community
will go into increase by 1.2 to 1.4.
So the future for the Labor Party, or the Democrats, like the equivalent,
it's not us.
They know that.
They know the birth rate and the changing rate by bringing in and taking over Minnesota.
Then 15, 20 years, they know these groups, 81% of them relying on the state.
Republicans want a small government.
They want to succeed.
They want you to progress.
Many of the people there in port and are quite happy to rely on the state.
So they want people rely on the state.
And I think in the United States, the acceleration,
when we talk about plantations and slavery, the black community,
they're still on the plantation.
They're just on the plantation of the Democrats.
And the farthest homes, all of these things, the breakdown of the family,
there's been a coordinated attack everywhere.
I'll say, looking at my home country and the West, all Western nations, really.
The far left and the left, they've had a successful revolution.
They've succeeded.
They broke down borders, broke down family, broke down identity, LGBTIQ plus.
All of these points are their revolution.
And we were at a stage where we've nearly lost.
Like we're in the UK, what can we do?
And that's why everyone's asking themselves now.
And when you look at the flooding of nations,
and immigration, obviously, is supposed to benefit the nation.
The government's job is supposed to protect its citizens,
but anyone coming into your country is meant to benefit.
So when you look at the Somali immigration, well, what benefit?
Where is the benefit?
If I look at the Islamic immigration into the UK,
they say we're now at 6%.
From that 6% Muslim immigration,
and again, remember, it's a numbers game.
From that 6%, we have 40,000 British Muslims on the Terra Watch list.
40,000.
3,000 of them are monitored 24 hours a day,
seven days a week by our security services.
That costs 9 billion a year.
Now, as the population doubles, we're going to have 80,000.
After 80,000, we'll have 160,000.
Now, you get to a point in society where what do you do to deal with this?
Because, and the demographics show, and there's been study after study, so I don't, it's
not, because America is looking like it's willing to go down the same path, and you've got
to learn it.
You can look at the countries that have done it, Germany, France, Sweden.
They've all come out now and said, look, it doesn't work, right?
But they're all still flooding, because the left care about power.
And they don't care where the power comes from.
and they're willing to turn a blind eye to fraud in Minnesota,
turn a blind eye to the rape of a generation of England's daughters.
None of these things matter.
What matters is power for them.
And where does the power come from in the future?
The Islamic community organised themselves like a military fashion.
The leader of the council and mosques in my town
will sit down with the Labour Party and do a deal.
And for that deal, they will get 100,000 votes.
And they know it.
We don't do that.
We don't organise like that.
We're not politicised like that.
So we're not even really voting.
I think you had it in the primaries that looked at 48% was it.
it? Yeah, bad. Very bad.
The Muslim community won't be voting at 48%.
So if there's a Muslim opposition to you
that's been brought into your nation,
you're only at what, 1% at a minute,
I think, 1.7 in Texas.
We're at 6%.
France is at 10%.
I think, are any of you thinking what's going to be
like at 20%? Are any of our leaders actually
looking and thinking, what are you going to do?
I will tell you that
I've talked to leaders
here in America about
are you making plans now militarily to go in and take the nuclear weapons from our former allies in Europe?
Because these will soon be Islamic states with nuclear missiles.
I mean, it's only a matter of time.
Liz Truss was sitting in this chair and she said to me,
England's a failed state.
By 2030, it will be a completely failed state.
It's over.
Unless, and I said, unless what?
she said there's a complete renaissance and new understanding of the voters and they engage
and the party actually offers people that will offer the solution. Do you see that happening
in England? Yeah. I'm optimistic in the sense that, look, I started talking about this in
2009. I've become one of the most hated men in my country, as did Katie Hopkins. I don't
if you've sat down with Katie. She's brilliant. As did Katie Hopkins. We were vilified, demonized,
attacked, as I said, there's six Muslims in jail,
they got caught with guns, bombs and IED,
suicide, but they're on the way to kill us.
Everything was, targets would put on us,
just like they were put on Charlie Kirk,
just like they put on you,
just like they put on any conservative Republican speakers,
because they want radicals,
they want extremists to do their job.
Get rid of the criticism, get rid of the people.
Because if the people were allowed to listen to me in 2009
and from 2004 onwards, really, yeah,
we could have prevented some of these things happening
but if you were allowed to understand the scale of the problem
and what the problem is,
then we as a public are going to start looking at our leaders
and saying, what have you done?
Because every problem we're talking about now,
whether it be in Germany, France, and the United States,
is happening because of policy failure by government.
Forgive me, because I don't pay attention to English politics deeply.
I've got my hands full over here.
But when I saw your parliament
vote against going after, investigating.
The rape gangs.
The rape gangs.
It's one of the most stunning things I've ever seen.
I thought, what the hell just happened there?
Yeah, not if you understand how high this goes,
because they've all got dirty hands,
which is why I had to be crushed.
At any means, at any level, I had to be crushed.
For example, these aren't Muslim rape gangs.
They're labours, Muslim rape gangs.
They're bought in by Labour Party.
They've been protected by the Labour Party.
For example, Rochdale, sitting in the north of England.
I went and tried to a local Labour counsellor called Mr. Hussein.
When the rape gangs happened and 100 children were raped by this group of men,
when the men went to court, he is the Labour representative,
went to court to testify that the men charged were good decent men,
to try to prevent them getting prosecuted.
He was the Labour councillor.
In response, he didn't lose his position of job.
Now, people lose their position or job for criticising Islam.
He went to defend men who had raped 100 children.
He didn't lose his job.
He accelerated through the Labour Party.
Now, in Rovereh, another scandal, Councillor Jagliere,
who's another Muslim, whose cousins were the main rapists,
he acted as coordinate for the gangs,
whilst the gangs were raping kids.
When the girls were missing, when it got too much
and they were gone for three or four days,
hid liaise to bring them back.
Not to be prosecuted.
To get the girl back. Okay, you've had her four days.
Let's get her back.
Fully aware of the gangs.
Did nothing.
In that town, in Robham,
Sarah Champion, who was the local MP,
she tried to speak up about the gangs.
They kicked her out of the Labour Party,
removed her power,
and replaced her as,
she was minister of women.
So her job was to protect women.
They removed her,
and they replaced her with Nas Shah,
who's a Muslim MP,
who is on record as sharing a message
to say the victims of these rape gangs
need to shut their mouths for the sake of
diversity. Now that's
so whatever city, because my next
documentary is on this, yeah, I keep getting put in jail or
prosecuted, but they know I'm coming after them on this
because I'm going to prove to the world that this is
what they've done, yeah? So that's
Rotherham. If we look at Oldham,
the Muslim gentleman whose job it was for the
council to stop the rape gangs,
he's in prison as one of the men
involved in the rape gangs, the
Labour Party. Now, when you look
in Telford,
Telford is a town where I've done a five-part series called The Rape of Britain.
What I did, and this is the real numbers game,
because people need to understand the scale of this problem,
because America needs to understand.
The seed has been planted in your country.
The same problems are here.
These problems are not unique to an individual town or city or country.
They are identical wherever the Islamic community go.
And they're identical, which I'm going to prove this Thursday, from scripture and support.
So when Boko Haram took 200 women in Nigeria,
They've took thousands now.
But when they took 200, the leader of Boko Haram come out and made a video and said,
we've been commanded by Mohammed to do this.
This is okay.
We can take them because there's four verses in the Quran that state very clearly.
Outside of your four wives, one of the verses say they are blameless.
And you can hear Imam, which I've actually been digging.
I've got Imam after Imam after Imam in the United States in mosques explaining this to them.
So people really need to understand this.
And the reason why if non-Muslims who don't think we should have an opinion,
And some people think, oh, Islam, we should just ignore it, like we ignore the Amish and we ignore this community.
And that is going to be the biggest disaster for this country, because 64% of the Quran talks about us, you, non-Muslims, how we should be subjugated, how we should be controlled, how we should be annihilated in times, how we should be enslaved.
It's all in there.
And these scriptures and verses, as I said, Boko Ram come out and made it clear.
The Yazidi, what, 4,000 goals are still missing, an entire community taken, raped and pillaged.
And again, ISIS come out and give a written justification for why they were doing it.
Because Mohammed commands it.
Now, in the UK, 3% of the UK is Muslim male.
3%.
90% of the convictions of groups of men who raped children is Muslim.
30% of the men convicted for raping these children are called Mohammed.
You're not allowed to ask why, which is what's got me in so much problems over the years.
Okay, why?
So let's try and understand this.
which I done a in-depth,
I went and spent 12 to 18 months
in the town of Telford.
Now the town of Telford
has a 1.7% Muslim population.
Not many there.
I went there and I spent time
interviewing survivors of these gangs.
I sat down with a dozen,
18 different times.
I interviewed them for three hours,
four hours, three times, four times,
five times.
Built a database of what's happening in the town.
And I chose that town,
in my town, as I said,
50% Muslim.
So in this town, 1.7%.
I thought,
I'm going to find out everything about everyone of you.
I'm going to investigate all of them.
And we did.
We put trackers on their cars.
We went into their restaurants with covert recordings.
We spoke to them without them knowing they're talking to girls who are working for us.
We got in their taxis.
We done it all.
We built an entire database.
And in this database, we looked at the police investigation in the town.
The police investigation identified 200 rapists from Telford.
In this town, five children, there's been five murders.
Little girls burned alive.
just in this town.
The police investigation identified
200 rapists and 1,000
victims. Remember, I only spoke to 12
or 18 in between that, yeah? I only spent time
interviewing them. They identify
1,000. Out of
that 200 rapists, they prosecuted
11. So they did not prosecute 189.
They don't have the resources to. They just
can't deal with it. And this isn't every town
city. Now, how
mainstream is the rape of our kids
within the community, the Pakistani community,
the Islamic community?
Well, in these cases across the country, some cases have 11 cousins raping.
Some cases have fathers and sons raping together.
Brothers and brother-in-laws, pretty much every rape gang scandal, they're related and they're cousins.
So this is a whole new mindset that we don't understand.
And you're not going to understand it unless you get your mind into the mindset of someone who follows the scripture of Islam.
And that is, she deserves it.
This is allowed.
I'm allowed to do this.
It's her fault.
Outside of my four-wives, I can do this.
Mohammed has commanded it.
So when they believe in this system, as a statement, as a statement, it's a son.
said, the population in this small town, get rid of the children, get rid of the women,
there's a thousand Muslim men. Police identified 200, 20%. We identified 264. Our investigation.
So the police say 200. We got 264. Now there was inquiry, and this is where what you saw
voted down, the history of this is insane, yeah, because what it is, they've shut this down,
they managed to hide it. Along come the English Defence League, 10,000 men charged through the street,
they realise we can't hide this, yeah?
Are we going to hide this?
Right, right.
These men are going mad, yeah.
Rightfully so as well, because people say, yeah, you were really angry.
Yes.
We were really angry, yeah?
And we took it to a point where I stopped the English Defence League.
I thought we've got, we need to get this out.
We've got it out, yeah?
If you draw a graph for the arrests for Muslim rape gangs, it goes flat like this, yeah?
You get to 2009 where the English Defence League forms.
Men took to the city of every town of city.
We built a date, we built a network in every town of city of young men.
And look, they give us criticism
It wasn't going to be doctors or nurses
That was going to stand up for this
It was going to be young English men
Who are not going to back down
You're not going to beat us into submission
So it was that mindset of man
We take some criticism for that
It was needed at a moment in time
Now you draw a long line
And 2010-2011
You literally get a graph like this
They realise we've got to do something here
Yeah? Because it's out
You managed to keep it in
It's now out
Now the Labour government
What they tried to do to me
was just crushed me, absolutely destroy me, through lawfare, through attacks from the
police, from any angles, through the media, just absolutely discredit this man. No one listened to
him. All of my videos of age very well. I sit here now viewed very differently than I was.
I was a person on graph everywhere. No one would talk to me. No one would, because it's toxic
to talk to Tommy Robinson. Yeah, they successfully had a campaign to do that. I've lived it.
I know, I know. So they've done that. They discredit you. They demonize you. But
The Labour Party, then, who have allowed this to happen, all of the political parties, conservatives
did as well, they all allowed it to happen, they all knew it's happening, the media let it happen,
all of this is happening. Now, in this small town of Telford, the calls for an independent inquiry,
now I've got the letter, which these clowns have, it's like, I watched the local MP there recently,
who was a counsellor at the time, this is what the problem is, they go through and now they're MPs,
and I watched him talking in Parliament, it's like they've rewrite history.
It's talking for an inquiry now.
I've got a letter that he wrote to the Home Secretary 10 years ago to block the inquiry.
Ten councillors signed it.
Now, four of the councillors that signed it, their job is in some way related to protecting kids.
Why would they write a letter and sign it to the Home Secretary asking her to block an inquiry into the Muslim community who are raping English girls?
We know 1,000 are raped and we know five are dead.
So what answers can they have?
they've got no answers.
So they managed to block it
because the government,
there's an independent inquiry
but there's a statutory powered inquiry.
So under statutory power,
if the government done it and give it,
then you can summons police officers.
You can summons council workers.
So when they're saying there's been an inquiry
in Telford, not with statutory power, there hasn't.
So the police and the council
just turned a blind eye and didn't deal with the inquiry.
So they weren't allowed to be questioned.
They weren't,
because if they were questioned on oath in court
and they didn't tell the truth,
they get two years in jail,
and they have to tell the truth
under statutory power.
So the government
have never given statutory power.
So there's been an inquiry
in Telford,
which we've got the numbers from,
but it's not a government,
and they're not a government given permission,
yeah?
It's a solicitor's firm done it.
So then, I go to jail most recently,
we get on to why,
but I'm in jail.
This is why it blew up
into the world's Elon Musk
put the biggest magnifying glass
on this issue.
Now, in a town called Oldham,
The towns we've been given the statistics for are Telford.
As I said, there's no Muslim, sir.
Thousand victims.
Rovram has a 3.7% Muslim population.
There's no Muslims there.
Other towns like Lukeham, 50%,
like Bradford, 50%,
Bermanham, 40%.
Oldham, 33%.
Oldham of, the parents have been screaming,
the community have been crying,
they've been trying to get an inquiry into Oldham.
So what's happened is,
five times they've gone to the council
and it's been voted down by the Labour Party,
it's a 33% Muslim population.
So when they get into the council like that,
just voted down.
They use democracy to end democracy.
They use it to stop you, yeah?
So they just voted down any application for these inquiries.
And there's videos of the mothers and the families
getting dragged out crying whilst they're all just like,
no, no inquiry, no inquiry.
So the locals then stood candidates in council
and said, I'll stand and I will make sure you get an inquiry.
Yeah?
so then they win.
So then in Oldham now, we want an inquiry.
So then they go to the government and say,
well, we're voting for an inquiry.
The Labour government, who are in control now, Jess Phillips,
they then say, shut it down.
So they've got voted in to get the inquiry.
They've fought for years to have an inquiry.
They've been stopped every point.
They then go to the government, right, we've voted for an inquiry.
The Labour government go, not with statutory power, you haven't.
We're shutting it down.
They're just covering everything.
They're hiding everything still now.
And that's the vote you saw.
So you then saw when Elon Musk shared this
and people started understanding some of the demonic,
like this isn't about sexual gratification, these gangs.
This is.
It's about taking what we love and hold dear, our daughters,
and destroying them.
Absolutely destroying and breaking them.
That's what it's about, for example,
again, a young girl in one of these gangs,
they got hot iron rod and they heated it with a letter M
and they scolded her bum because she was the property of Mohammed
she was 11 years old.
Other young 12 year olds, they nail tongues to the table.
They take these girls out in one of the,
in the five-part series I've done,
you can watch all these documentaries at trfilms.co.uk.
We went, we spent the time,
and when the men were named by three girls or more
that don't know each other,
so it's not hard for the police to do this.
Three girls that don't know each other,
making the same allegations against the same man,
they're from different areas that town
they've all been pimped, raped, tortured
some of the girls they'd take up to the woods
when they're 12 or 13
they'd take them up to the woods in the middle of night
they'd orally rape them and then urinate on her
they'd hold her why they piss all over her
while they'd say urinate all over her
that's what this was about
taking our doors
so anyone when you look at the statistics
and the figures
and we look across Europe to see the trend
now in Morocco
the Moroccans in
Holland were doing this and they made an educational video they called it lover boy the Dutch government
to try and educate look at this what they're doing and in Holland they call it lover boy in
India it's called love jihad and in the UK they're calling it grooming really what we're talking about is a
rape jihad at level and and the figures speak for themselves Sweden I think it's less than 10%
Muslim population Sweden 63% of rapes in Sweden Muslim men
Germany opened up their borders and this is where you need to Americans need to understand
what has just happened to your country and how you need ice.
Because the importance of ice.
Angela Merkel opened the borders of Germany.
Now, when you open the borders of a European Union nation,
you open the borders of Europe because they're not confined to Germany.
She agrees to give them all their passports.
Now, just in Germany, from 2017 to 2022, rapes went up 45%.
Last year, the figures showed that 58% of the rapes in Germany, Muslim migrants.
Again, there's only 10 or 15%, less than 10% even.
So, Tommy, this is what America hears because they don't, I mean, you're called far right by everybody.
I'm called far right.
I don't even know what that means.
It just means that you speak openly and honestly.
And it used to be successful.
You see those labels, this is where I'll get on to being a bit optimistic.
They managed to silence.
And I look at Brim, and we are a nation of fighters.
It's in our DNA to fight.
We fight tyranny.
It's what we've always done.
We don't back down.
our motto is no surrender
it's from our country
that's who we are
they paralyze the entire nation
of men
through the fear
just the word
racist islamophobic
far right
they successfully got us
too scared to talk about
anything
or speak up
because we don't want to be
labelled
that's the power of political
grentis
that's how powerful it is
and cancel culture
mix all the things together
the media cancel culture
but you get to a
point to where a population can only be squashed for so long. And then sometimes scary things.
Then people are like, you know what? I don't care what they're saying. They agree with me on
this. And then you get really crazy people, Germany, I'm speaking, generally speaking, historically,
Germany. Really scary people and people are good people are like, you know what? They'll fix the problem.
That's coming now.
that's coming
there's been a shift
which I'd say
has come to our country
from your country
when I look at it
because we don't have
this sort of
when we talk about
ethno nationalism
now white English
are 33% of London
that's not right
most of our major cities
are gone
when you think in America
you think of Paris
trust me Paris
is gone
it's gone
Berlin's gone
these cities
you could blindfold
yourself
get off a plane
land in London
Berlin or Paris
walk down the street, you'd think you're in Kashmir.
I was in Paddington?
I thought I was in Iraq.
Paddington Bear?
Yeah, I thought I was in Iraq.
I mean, they were parts.
That's most cities now, most cities, most major cities.
So then people look, and there's been a sway now that's come in
where people are just saying, they all need to be deployed.
And when they're saying, all, some groups, and some groups are moving now,
because they're so angry and so upset and so scared,
because we see ourselves becoming a minority.
everywhere. Is it okay? No, it's not. That's not okay. The majority of England and Britain must remain a
majority white nation. That's not racist. Majority of Nigeria must remain majority black nation. And if it started
changing and they started getting replaced, it would be wrong for their history, their culture and their
identity. Now, the same with Japan. If this happened in Japan, we'd be saying, no, that's not right.
Now, many of my friends that I love are not white. They'd agree on this. Okay, what made the country so
successful that people want to come and visit our culture and our identity. Now, again, we can look,
but I feel that other groups are now being blamed, which I'm seeing, yeah, that have successfully
integrated into the UK. Jews have, Hindus have, Sikhs have. Now, so there's not been these
problems. We wouldn't even be discussing the point of immigration, I don't think, if we, maybe, because
Rishi Sunak letting a million in one year through legal migration. So legal migration is as problematic.
But you in America, your success story, if you can bring people in and get them to
American and be American. You're not going to do that with the Islamic community. I'm telling
you, it does not happen. It won't happen. The ideology doesn't allow it to happen. They won't
want it to happen. So then you get an entire enclave, which we've got, which is what we're seeing.
We're seeing an entire enclaves where there is no integration or assimilation, no adaptation to
British culture, no willingness to participate in our country or its history or its future. They're here
to change the country. And I'm saying this, and I'm, I've grew up, as I said, 50% Muslim. I know
some great Muslims. They're lovely people. How do you do? But the power, in the words of
Winston Churchill, individual Muslims show amazing individual traits, but Islam has the power
to bring Europe back to the dark ages. Churchill said that. Now, Churchill also said, basically,
Islam in the man is like rabies and a dog. He called the Mohammedans, and he explained,
that they believe a woman is their property.
They believe these values,
and all the values he spoke about
are the opposite to our values.
So is there a difference between Islam and an Islamist,
political Islam and Islam?
I don't believe so, no.
I believe that the word Islamist
has been brought in to make people feel comfortable
about talking about Islam.
I understand it.
I understand it.
Now, I separate Muslims from Islam.
People say, how'd you do that?
Well, if I was against Christianity,
you don't think I hate Christians, dear.
You celebrate me as an atheist.
Yeah.
Well, I'm against the value system of Islam
and what it talks about us.
That doesn't mean I hate individual Muslims.
Individual Muslims are individual people.
If you hate Muslims, it's a problem
because there's some great Muslims
and they don't all follow this doctrine.
In fact, the majority don't.
That's what I think the difference,
I think at least when I use it,
Islam and an Islamist,
that's the difference.
Somebody who wants that Sharia law
and somebody who's a Muslim
who's like, I don't want any of that.
Well, the majority won that Sharia law.
The figures out of Afghanistan show 99% want Sharia law.
Pakistan, upwards of 80%.
Iraq, 65%.
So when you look at all these countries, the majority want Sharia.
Correct.
So the peaceful ones that I'd say are not following it, Islam.
The problem is Islam.
The problem is Mohammed.
Was Mohammed an Islamist?
Yes, he was.
So the man that they wish to revere, if you wish to following the footsteps of Mohammed,
you're going to become an Islamist if we use that way, you know.
a jihadist, you're going to become all these things.
Now, Jefferson,
founding father of the United States,
he asked a question,
I don't know if you've known this or seen this,
he asked a question,
and I've only come across this
because I've been researching America
and trying to understand,
trying to give a warning to America,
to say, look, we,
historically, our leaders,
their job was to warn and tell the truth,
and they were never coward by these stupid labels,
yeah?
So, as I said, I've just quoted Churchill.
William Gladstone,
one of the best leaders Britain's had,
He said there will never be peace on his earth so long as we have this book, the Quran.
It's a violent and cursed book.
Now, he wasn't shouted down as a bigger or an extremist or it was just speaking facts.
Now, Jefferson couldn't understand at the time why Muslims were attacking the ships.
So in Tripoli, through the diplomats, and he wrote this, he wrote this, yeah.
It become apparent that they were attacking the ships because of what Muhammad told them to do in the Quran.
Now, what the Muslims had told the Americans is the verse, which is you either convert, you pay the jizier or you die.
Now, the jizziah is a tax.
So the Barbary pirates were demanding attacks from the United States government.
If you want your ships to fly across, you pay us, then we'll step back, yeah.
You created the Navy.
Your Navy was created.
No, Marines.
Yeah, you're Marines.
The song from the Marines.
is about fighting this verse,
not an interpretation of this verse,
not a bigoted version of this verse, yeah,
this verse, which is now being taught,
because I've got Imam after Imam after Imam,
talking about this verse in the United States now, yeah?
So your Navy, your leaders,
and I wrote a book,
I put together with an incredible gentleman called Peter McLaughlin,
one of the best brains I've ever met,
we put together Muhammad's Quran,
my Muslims kill for Islam,
which one it was,
is put in the Quran in the correct chronological order
that Jefferson, Churchill and Gladstone
would have read it.
Now the reason it's important
because it's not in that order now
in the modern world, yeah?
And the reason it's important is because abrogation in Islam
something Mohammed says later in his life
supersedes what he says earlier.
So the peaceful verses are in the first 10 years of Muhammad's life.
Then you bring in the violence,
these verses that demand jizier.
And Barack Obama basically paid the jizier.
He basically paid $1.7 billion to Iran.
He was, he, rather than Jefferson, went to war.
Trump's going to war.
Obama was like, we'll pay him.
And he sent plenty loads of your cash to them, yeah?
But that is this verse in action with Jefferson.
Now, you know the phrase Islam is religion apiece?
It was never said in history to a George W. Bush.
We tried.
If you can find something, show me.
We tried to find a leader, an Islamic leader, an Islamic leader.
An Islamic leader.
Now, when I search for Islamic leaders, one of the leaders of a NATO country, now Turkey,
he said, the dome is our helmet, the minaret is our sword, the faithful are our soldiers,
the mosque is our barracks.
So, their words, again, there's not extremist Islam, there's Islam.
So there's not one time, George W. Bush said, after September 11th, Islam is a religion apiece.
prior to him saying that, that's never spoken in history.
That's never been said in history.
All of our leaders and your leaders and all the best world leaders
just knew Islam was a war manual.
Mohammed was a very successful warrior.
It was known.
Now, what we live now is in an era
through, whether it be political benefits,
whether it be fear, political correctness,
where our leaders lie.
And they're lying.
And whilst lying, you are now important,
the most dangerous mindset
and allowing it to use your values
and your constitution
to end your constitution
because that's the intention
again, not my belief,
it's their belief. No, we're the main target.
United States is the main target.
Because if they take, do you know,
now, I'm sitting in now, we're having this discussion.
Elon must give me back my voice.
I was censored the platformed,
that I was invisible for five years
because I exposed corruption,
I exposed the BBC, I'd done documentaries,
They had to stop us.
So they used all their powers to do that.
They've done it here as well.
They got rid of Donald Trump's social media.
They censored conservative voices.
They went on an attack against you.
Anyone like us was attacked.
So again, they had control.
We now, there's a light been lit in Europe
and there's a light been lit in Britain.
Our last event was the biggest event
Britain's ever seen in its history.
None of that would have happened
without a email must buy in social media
and giving us back a chance.
We wouldn't have had Donald Trump if it wasn't
for Elon Musk.
And if we didn't have that,
and then you didn't have Donald Trump.
If we didn't now have Rubio and J.D. Vance
telling the European Union,
all of these things,
we've got hope now.
We've got hope.
I didn't have hope.
I was still fighting a fight
because I thought you can't give in the fight,
but I didn't see where we were going to get out of it.
And our hope is coming from America.
So if they take,
if you don't have free speech,
I don't know if Americans really understand
the value of your constitution.
We don't.
I think you're going to lose that.
You don't you because we think you have freedom.
You have freedom of speech.
Just like you, you're arresting people at a clip that the Soviet Union was arresting people on freedom of speech.
We have 30 a day.
That's in insanity.
Do you know my last arrest?
I just got no further action.
I got arrested recently for two tweets.
One of them was fuck a mass.
Fuck a mass.
Like, you're arresting me?
You're criminally.
arresting me and investigating me for sharing a meme about fucking, fuck it, fuck Hamas, fuck Hamas,
fuck his bull of fuck. So that's what they arrested me. And not just that, the other one,
which is outrageous, I shared an article from the Daily Mail. So this is where they're going,
yeah. So recognized media outlets can publish stories, citizen journalists, which we are fighting
them, can't. So I shared their article. They arrested me. I don't have the protection that they have.
as a government-recognised media.
So they have the protection.
They nicked me for sharing their story.
With no comment?
No comment.
I just shared it.
Shared their story.
And their story was showing that a school in the UK has no English children.
Not one school.
There's 500 of them.
Across the country now.
That's the future.
It's non-English speaking.
90% of the imams don't speak English.
All of this.
We have all these problems.
Me sharing it.
So what they're trying to do, and I explain that citizen journalism, which is what we've become, talk shows like your talk show, yeah, uncontrollable sources of information, they're trying to clamp down and they sent me to jail multiple times for my work.
They are attacking now.
There's an army now building, which we want to, this is what we want as a vision.
We need to build an army of me, of my journalism, of you, of these different, but they need help because they're going to come under attack for.
government, media, political arrests. We're seeing it now. We've got some great ones growing
in the UK who are just citizens going out with their phone, two hotels, they're following
the migrants, they're telling the stories, but the media just won't. They don't. So they're
telling the stories. They're now being arrested, just like I was arrested. Do you know what's
mad? I started my activism in 2009 on the street where I started talking about these rape gangs.
From that point then, three weeks in, until the point we're at now, I have not had one
single moment in those 16 or 17 years where I've not faced prison court cases. I haven't had one,
not even for a week. I have a court case now in October 26 carries a 10-year prison sentence.
I've just come out in May after spending seven months on solitary confinement for a document.
Is there any chance you're thinking about maybe moving to the United States?
I listened to, Sarah, what's her name? In your State Department, she spoke about the possibility
of British refugees. You're going to have them flooding. I know we will.
and we'll take them.
You're going to have them flooding.
You have to, again, I don't think people quite understand.
Like, my last two court cases,
so people throw my criminal history at me, yeah?
Yeah.
I've never had a jury.
I've never ever had the opportunity
to have my members and my peers judge me.
I've been tried by judges every time,
appointed judges.
One of the cases, and when I go into these,
and you can look all of this up, yeah?
2017 I go to work as a journalist
not an uncontrollable journalist
so they obviously don't want this journalism
I go outside of court building in Leeds
where 30 Muslim men are standing trial for raping kids
and I make a video outside and I explain how they're doing it
how they groom children what their MO is
and as the men walk into court I said how do you feel about your verdict
I'm outside court the judge is at the window
there's a picture of him the police come and detain me
I'm arrested for, you can watch the video
for breaching the piece.
I didn't breach any peace.
I didn't say anything extreme.
I didn't presume guilt.
I said these men could be innocent.
Let's ask some questions.
I saw the video.
It's a remarkable video.
And I get handcuffed.
They arrest me for breaching the peace.
I get brought to the police station.
Then they say, no breach of the peace.
Take him to court.
So they take me straight to the judge.
Within two hours of my detainment,
I'm sentenced to 13 months in prison.
It's like,
I didn't get asked, plead guilty.
I didn't get told anything.
I wasn't allowed my solicitor.
So this is in a court in Britain.
Then when he sends me to jail, he puts an order,
then no one can report that.
So at this moment, in 2017,
Canada and America start reporting it.
Ezra Levant, who I got into journalism through Ezra Van.
I love him.
Yeah. Ezra taught me to be a journalist.
He spoke to me for ages, tried to convince me.
I didn't want to do it.
I'd just come out of jail again for a previous thing.
And I just said, mate, I can't fight it.
I just need to get on my life.
He said, get on camera, Tommy.
Stop to do it.
And so he taught me to show the world what you're seeing.
So I took a camera and become a journalist.
And Ezra helped me.
He sent me on training courses through lawyers.
He supported me.
And he supported me and tried to help me when I didn't want the help.
Because Ezra was trying, at the time, I worked for Ezra.
But my place is on the street.
I didn't want to sit on desks.
I said, the fight is on the street.
We need to be on the street.
I need to be out there showing what they're doing.
But I think Ezra was trying to protect me.
He said, you're going to end up dead.
Like, you're going to end up in jail.
And then I left working for Ezra.
I went to the report on this case.
I get detained.
I get 13 months.
Ezra jumps in straight away, starts fighting for my freedom.
Ezra, a free Tommy movement was set up.
660,000 people signed a petition to prevent, to release me.
It took 12 weeks of solitary confinement before we got before a judge.
We end up getting before a judge.
The judge rules everything they done was unlawful.
And I'm released from custody.
But when I'm released from custody.
custody at this point, the government are worried because 30,000 people, which is the biggest
protest at the time, had marched on Parliament. I come out, I had the largest engagement
Facebook page in Britain. In 17, I had 1.2 million. When I went live, I had 40 to 50,000 people,
yeah. So we had got past them. We'd bypassed them. We were using this to reach people in their
lounges. So our journalism was flying. I come out of jail, a look, and they've got a government
funded study on social media to find out people's opinions on me. So I thought, they're scared,
yeah, they're worried. And I was quite laughing about at a time saying, what are you going to do
now? Like, we're out, yeah, we're coming for you. Basically, we're going to expose you. We're
going to do this. Then I find out that there's a documentary called Panorama. It's the same
documentary which just edited footage on Donald Trump. Now, I went through the history of Panorama
when I found out what they were doing to me and found out that they'd worked alongside far-left
extremist groups 30 years ago to defame and lie and edit footage on conservative members of parliament.
So I looked through all the history.
I found out they're working on a project titled Tommy Takedown.
So they were going to use the legitimacy of Panorama,
which is our best flagship investigative documentary maker for the BBC.
They were going to use that to end me.
So when I found out, I got a girl to go undercover into Panorama.
And I got them.
So I got the head of panorama.
John Sweeney was his name.
You can look up this footage.
I got the head of panorama on camera telling people say this about him, say it all covertly recorded.
If you say this, this and this, we'll put it in the documentary.
Do we have a deal?
And then, so then I sent a girl, because they were contacting everyone I'd ever grown up with,
everyone I'd had a fooling out with.
So if you contact 50 people that don't like me, they're hoping to just get someone say stuff.
They're basically telling them what to say.
And then we got them blackmailing people to say things.
We got it all.
I covertly got it all.
I got a girl to have that, say to them,
I've got footage of him being aggressive in an argument.
They said, what's the argument about?
Just work.
How aggressive does he get?
What does he say?
Right.
And he says, look, what we're doing?
Because he thinks she hates me.
What we're doing is we're creating a sexual thing against Tommy Robinson.
And she says, yeah, but it's not about that.
And I scream at him.
And I'm arguing with him.
And they says, don't worry, we can clip that.
We can clip all this.
He's basically negotiating with her to ruin my life
over something which he knows
has nothing to do with sexual stuff.
And it's all a bang to write.
So then Panorama, contact me.
They're trying to get me to do an interview with them
for their documentary.
At the time, I'm terrified.
I'm shitting myself because I think they're going to ruin me.
Who knows what they're going to ruin me with
or what allegations, but I know that they're not.
So I film all of this.
I film it all.
Then they, so I say to them, right,
meet you tomorrow in my venue and I put a screen on the wall behind me and then they turn up now
I don't know if you've how many I've took part in quite a few documentaries in my early years in the end
media decided don't get him in documentaries don't interview him because he keeps winning we can't
allow this yeah so then they sit down and he sat there John screening who's the face of panorama
and along there are all the producers and they come in and like producers don't turn up
this is massive for you because producers you just you just
have the documentary maker.
I've never seen
producers of shows.
So then I ask him,
the first question is,
John,
whose documentary is this?
Is this the BBC?
It's the JSRs.
Now, I had messages
from far left extremist groups
saying they were
directing this documentary,
hope not hate,
your media matters.
Groups like this.
So I had them saying it
and I had covert recordings
proving that when they sat down
my old employees,
the far left extremist group,
Hope Not Hate were prison.
And when my old employees didn't say enough negative stuff about me,
they took them outside and threatened them with more things,
that they would be put in prison.
Because Hope Not Hate's board is politicians, senior ranking police officers.
So they were terrifying my old employees to lie about me.
But I had all these recordings.
So I said, would any other group be active in this documentary?
No.
So I just said, press play.
And then the recordings of all it started playing.
I just sat looking at him.
And I could see all the producers.
And on the footage, because we videoed everything, they just go like this.
And I say, would you ever tell anyone what's saying in a documentary?
Would that be journalism?
No.
Press play.
Would you ever make up sexual allegations?
No, press play.
Would you be racist?
Because you're alleged I'm racist.
Because I got him drunk in the covert recordings.
And he's racist as hell.
He's homophobic talking about shooting gay people.
Yeah?
This is the face of BBC.
So press play, press play, press play.
By the end of it, I have annihilated them, ended his career.
because he got put on gardening leaf.
Their documentary that they had ready to come out the next week was never read
because I proved you were fabricating all.
But when I released this documentary,
which had 2 million views in 48 hours,
they deleted me from YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
I was invisible after this, yeah?
But they didn't just delete me.
If you mentioned my name on Facebook, they deleted you.
So they made me, and historically went through our movement and deleted everyone.
Because Nick Clegg, who's our former deputy prime minister,
was the highest ranking in matter.
Yeah?
So they come out of these positions.
This was the...
We've done it with X.
They get into the position of power,
then they control the whole of social media.
Now, I released the documentary.
They come for me for the same offence.
The offence I got out of prison for the year before.
They re-prosecuted me.
The Attorney General did.
And then I went to that old Bailey,
the High Court in London,
for the allegation of what they'd previously said
I was in prison for
when they gave me the 13 months
and I got released.
least. Now, it went before the head judge of the El Bailey. So I produced all the evidence that
I didn't breach a report restriction because under the judiciary's website, they have no
power to put reporting restrictions on information that's already in the public domain. So what
they do as a government is they'd hit it for 30 years, now they have to start prosecuting. So then
they bring in reporting restrictions and prevent any of the media talking about the cases.
So then they're prosecuting them. They run a headline, prosecuted men for raping kids, but we don't
get the details because they're hiding it. For the whole six to eight week trial, no one's
allowed to report. So they said I breached a reporting restriction, which people, Rod Little is a
famous journalist in the UK. He breached a reporting restriction previously on a, on a murder trial,
the most historic racial murder of a black gentleman called Stephen Lawrence, biggest case in the UK,
and he clapped the trial due to his reporting. He got a fine, yeah? So they prosecute me under this,
yeah? That's what they used. Now, when it went before the whole head judge of El Bailey,
I produced, to have the reporting restriction anyway,
it has to be on the screen in the court
and it has to be on the door.
When I turned up for work that morning,
I took a picture of the door,
I took a picture of the screen.
So I produced it all to the judge saying,
even if they had a report restriction,
which it wasn't on the screen, it wasn't on the court,
under their own guidelines on their website,
this is what it says.
So the judge, when it went before him,
I produced it all the day before,
he looked it and said,
I'm not prosecuting him.
So he told the government,
because I wasn't being prosecuted by the police.
I was being prosecuted by the Attorney General,
the government, which is why is a political decision.
and you don't get a jury.
You know jury. Two years, yeah.
So the head judge said, back to the government, we're not prosecuting him.
Do you know what they're done?
They removed the head judge.
Look at the timeline.
They replaced him with Dame Victoria Sharp, the first female judge.
And the big celebration, because DEI has now got to the top of the old Bailey court.
They removed the judge.
So we had a big win outside court.
There's a video.
There's thousands there.
We're like, the judge has told them to go back.
The government, they won't prosecute me.
Now, by this point, they've removed me from every social media.
So I'm thinking they can do it.
They want now because no one knows.
They're not allowed to mention my name.
So even if someone wants to report on social media, what they're doing, you can't because
they'll delete your post.
So now they come from me again.
Replace the judge, brought me back to court.
They changed because they said I could have prejudiced the trial.
Well, the transcripts that we got in our lawyers proved I didn't prejudiced the trial because
the judge's own words who prosecuted the Muslims for the rape.
I've watched this video. He doesn't say anything.
So then they charged me with causing alarm and distress or fear to the Muslim, the rapist, by asking them a question.
So even when we went to court that day, I showed the judge, all the media doing the same to me.
So it's like, you've found something that you can now, and she sent me back to jail for 10 months.
So I went back to jail to maximum security prison to get another 10-month prison sentence on solitary confinement, again, which I'll be honest, fried my head.
I went into jail one person the first time and come out another.
But all of this, and my documentary that I produced, that went to 2 million views, and if you want to see, is there a corrupt media?
Not one single journalist report on it. It was the biggest expose the BBC's ever had.
Now, when I was, as I explained earlier, I used a fake name when I started my activism, Tommy Robinson.
A journalist called Stephen Bird, famous journalist. He wrote for the Times newspaper, probably in the newspaper that Barack Obama was picking up at the time, or Donald Trump picks up in the morning. He wrote for the Times newspaper.
The front, he uncovered who I was
15 years ago
and he published my name
and this is Stephen Lennon
and he unmassed me.
I kept in contact of him.
He's quite, look, he done his job,
he's got a job to do, he was fair, yeah?
I kept in contact of him.
So when I got these covert recordings
before I made my documentary,
I contacted him and said,
you won't believe what I've just got.
I've got panorama,
faking news, fabricating news,
making up news, panorama.
He's like, what?
And he come and met me
and he listened to them
and he was like,
oh my God, do you know,
big this is. I goes, yeah, of course I do. He goes, right, and he went, he took them all to his
editors. He came back to meet me next day, he said, Tommy, I'm not allowed to run it. I said,
you're not allowed to run it. He said, we're not allowed to run it. He said, we're not allowed to run.
You said to me, yesterday, how big this is. He goes, yes, massive, but it's not going to be run.
Now, now the proof of this, try and find, watch my documentary, panodrama. Their program's
called panorama, I call mine panodrama, because it's all lies. Now, if they're doing
to me, who else they're doing it to? What other lies are they giving the public? So, and this
explains why previously I'm hated by the government, because I exposed the rape gangs,
brought it to the national attention, wouldn't shut up, didn't let them silence us,
they put you in jail thinking it shuts you up, dawn raids, police, lies, it didn't shut us up.
Then we now become very good journalists in exposing them, whether it be the rape gangs, the BBC,
the groups, we make documentary formats, and they know the next documentary I'm going to make,
I'm putting a nail in their coffin for the public.
And now, because of Elon Musk, the world can see my documentaries.
Let me ask you, we are way out of time.
You're fascinating.
I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk three years before he died,
and we were just having a private conversation talking about what was coming.
And he asked me and I said,
the only thing that's left is war and assassinations.
and he said, wow.
And I said, he said, do you think they would go after Trump?
You know, years before?
And I said, oh, yeah, but I said, Charlie,
I think they're going to go after people like us as well.
And we talked about that for a while.
And I regret now not saying to him a question I want to ask you.
First of all, you seem pretty,
committed to go all the way no matter what comes your way true i believe i'm meant to be doing this
okay i don't believe i have a choice um god forbid something happens to you what do you want people to
how do you want people who follow you or support you to react to do i believe that in history
defining moments changed the course of a nation that's what happens bloody sunday changed the course of
the conflict in northern ireland no one knew what that
moment would be. A moment will come that's going to change the direction of Europe.
We've been working for it for 15, 16, 17 years to try and awaken the public. We're at a stage now
where the public are awake. I think that when they put me in jail in 2017, I was put in there to be
killed. I've been in, as I said, six Muslims got caught guns. I just got named in this month's
ISIS publication to be killed. I think that when they put me in jail that in 2017, they realized
that if I was killed
they might spark a revolution in Britain
so I've detailed everything
they've done
I think that the public have been
pushed so far
we have
we don't allow them to dictate
to us who we are
we are organising
peaceful rallies
celebrations
cultural identity music art
love
we love our country
we're not going to give it away
and they are trying to give it away
they've successfully destroyed it
in 60 years
through weakness and cowardice
I
want a i want which we're in the process of doing now we've built the unite the kingdom movement
which is now at millions on the streets we want to unite the kingdom and unite the west this is
far bigger than us it's far bigger um this is western civilization this that's what this is about
now unless you have unity of all western civilizational groups across every western nation we're
going to lose so um our future beyond our next event on may 16th is to unite the west and for all
of these groups I've traveled. I went to see Salvinia in Italy. I went to see Erics Amour in
France. I've contacted the leaders of Vox. I've contacted the members of the AFD. Say, listen,
we need to celebrate our identity. And that's what we're trying to do. Instead of being against
something, we're going for something. We're for the best civilization the world has ever seen.
We're for our cultural identity, individual nations. And it's time we celebrate it. And we put
back our identity. Because I believe that these people who aren't voting, they're not voting
because it's politics. And I don't think you're going to get them through politics.
You're going to get them through culture and identity.
So our goal is to...
It can be very frightening
when it's not rooted to principles.
It's rooted to culture and identity.
It is principles.
So what we've done is we got...
When I was giving back my voice from Elon Musk,
I flew back to the UK.
I was defeated.
I was abroad.
Divorced, they'd broke my family.
They'd bankrupt me through the courts,
through lies,
just come out of jail again.
I left.
I fled.
And then I was in a dark place.
Elon Musk picked me up,
Give me back my voice.
I flew back to the UK,
organised a meeting of 10, 15,
whether you call them influencers,
Katie Hopkins, Cole Benjamin, Mayor Toosy,
these are big names in the UK of all face attack,
but now they're all back.
And he's got half a million, he's got a million.
So we all sat down and we spent two days together
and said British culture's at risk here.
We need to stop looking at our egos
because everyone's got an ego.
Yeah.
And we need to stop looking at what we disagree on.
And we need to understand what we agree on.
So we spent those two days getting down
from 10 points to five points.
And our five points were Judeo-Christian culture.
That's what built these nations.
That's what built us.
Whether you're Christian, whatever you want.
This is what built us.
The Ten Commandments, it's a great ethoph of life.
We need to build on that.
We need to get back to our roots.
Because a void has been filled where we've lost our identity
and certainly our religious belief system.
So Judeo-Christian culture, we're against the LGBTQ,
indoctrination of children, sexualisation of children.
Don't care what you're doing you're adult.
Stop messing with the kids.
We're against mass immigration.
We're against Islam and we're full free speech.
That's it.
We just need to agree on these five principles.
And if we agree on these five principles here today, which we did,
and we worked together, it took us months to get the final points.
We wanted everyone to make a pledge, a pledge of allegiance like you do for your stars and stripes.
We wanted people to publicly make a pledge.
And the pledges to protect these five values.
And we're going to work together against everything to protect these five values.
And when we brought those people together, we said,
if we press a button now, if I make a video about culture,
if I make a video about May 16th, our events, our movement,
we focused on, we had an event this year called Pruiting Christ.
back into Christmas. This Christmas we will have
the biggest event and people fly from all over Europe to it.
We're going to put identity, culture
back on the map. We're going to make it cool
to be British again. You're not going to make us
feel ashamed to who we are. Our kids are going to grow up, smiling
and knowing who they are. And that's where they got us to.
So if we agree this and we press a button
now, we can beat the media. We can.
All of our different platforms, all these ones
in the United States who are working not against each
other, but separately. If you can unite
them, which again, we are working on
a four-year vision of how
we do this. And it's
and it's beyond Britain
because citizen journalists
need to be given power
and support
across the Western world
and that's how we fight the media
and that's how we get our message out
because these debates
they're not on CNN
it's not on Fox News
yeah it's on TikTok
unless you start getting
TikTok Snapchat
unless you start getting
the new youth
and you start
Nick Shirley has done
an amazing job
what can be done
this is what citizen journalism
can do
you need another thousand
Nick Shirley's
we all do
that doesn't mean
and they need
need help. So we put together a vision of working together of unifying. Doesn't mean it's not
going to be easy. None of this is easy. But yeah, and if they managed to successfully eliminate me
as they did Charlie Kirk, I think they'll cause an uprising that they can't handle in Great Britain.
And I think that they may be weighing that up themselves. They've tried to break me through my mind
through the most recent case of seven months. I went into prison. I was released seven months later without
talking to another prisoner. I didn't.
see anyone. So they've gone for these tactics. And it did, it did, I said, I feel like this
is part of my healing being in America because I feel free for the first time. I come here and it's like,
wow, I feel like I'm, and I haven't, it's been difficult even since coming out. All of it is.
It's good to have you here. It's great to be here. Thank you so much for everything you've,
you've done and are doing. Thank you to America, because if you didn't vote for Donald Trump,
I don't think any of us would have hope. I think that when you talk about Donald Trump and
I hear Americans talk about saving America.
It's like, I don't think, like, it's far bigger than that.
When you vote for Donald Trump and when Trump had those four years, all these things had to happen.
Biden had to have that four years of power so the world could see a puppet.
We had to see how bad it could get.
You've got your midterms coming up and people need to get ready, man.
I think, you know, it's really interesting.
I think they will build statues of Donald Trump all over the world.
Oh, 100 minutes.
Before they'll build them here.
Oh, well, they're going to build them in Iran once they get freedom.
They're going to build them in Cuba once they get freedom.
Venezuela.
The British public, in 2016, Americans were too scared as well, yeah?
You elected Donald Trump, but people were scared to speak about a lot of these issues.
Brits were as well.
No, no, not.
Britain loves Donald Trump.
The British public don't believe the media.
Do not believe any of these nonsense of left-wing educated or university-educated,
the people, which is what Donald Trump's movement was about.
Our media, we call it, we're by the people for the people.
The people love Donald Trump.
The people love the strength.
The people love...
I think Elon Musk won't be remembered for putting people up in Mars.
I think he's going to be remembered for saving free speech.
Putting his name and do you know when people step into these fights,
like the Donald Trump's or like Elon Musk?
They risked everything.
Didn't have to.
They didn't have to.
Elon Musk didn't have to get involved in this.
He didn't have to.
He could have continued to be the most successful man in the world
and quite lived a comfortable life that he was living anyway.
He chose the battle.
He chose free speech.
He saw the importance of it.
And we're forever grateful.
Thanks, Tommy.
Thanks.
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