The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 45 | Gavin McInnes | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: July 20, 2019

Advisory: Mature Content | Glenn sits down with a man he finds incredibly hilarious and well-read. Gavin McInnes and Glenn Beck have been in the news together over the last year, and almost every story has gotten it wrong. So in this interview, they discuss the elephant in the room. The co-founder of VICE and VICE magazine, Gavin McInnes made millions until the company decided that he was "too offensive" for VICE. Now he is a comedian and founder of FreeSpeech.TV. Get ready to hear a human tornado as Gavin unpacks his biography and history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He's a comedian. I think he's really, really funny. A lot has been written about the two of us. Almost all of it is wrong. He is extremely well-read and very, very smart. He is the co-founder of Vice. He made millions until, I guess, he was too offensive for Vice. Then he became a comedian, started in Advert.

agency. We worked together for about three days at the blaze. We'll address the biggest elephant in the room what happened when he left. His biography and his history is truly remarkable. I'm not sure how much of it we're going to be able to get in just this podcast because he is a fly by the seat of his pants kind of guy, a truly remarkable man and at the center of history right now and very funny, Gavin McGinnis. This is the first time we've ever sat down with each other, isn't it? It is, yeah. I've been on your show a couple times. Yeah.

I've never seen you before. You're tall. You're not. Well, don't make me sound diminutive. 5-11, normal American person. 5-11, yeah, I guess maybe. You tall people always say that. Yeah.

You know, if you're in the fives, you're kind of in the girl. You're like gays. Gays always say everyone's basically gay. And you go, no, they're not. They go, oh, yeah, I know. You can tell he's a little gay. I'm like, no, he's not at all. How are you a little gay?

I don't know. They have a distorted view of the world, and tall people are the same. Oh, 5-11, no, I think the average is like 6-1. 6-1 is a giant. 6-1 is a freak. Not really. 6-1 hates flying. Yeah.

Because his knees are up by his face. Well, that's true. That's true. Well, it's uncomfortable on a plane. You're not normal. No. Planes are designed for the norm. No, they're not.

What, you think it's a little dwarf plane? Yes. No. They'll take it away until you're all just standing up. They're like, what's like a normal person? And then someone went, 5-11, all right, I'll make it like a 5-11 chair. And then the six-foot beast is like, what the hell? How do I get in this thing?

How are you? I'm good. Why did you say it that way? I don't know. My wife had to fight last night. So I, I'm a very honest person. So that's bothering me. And the fight was about what you do, isn't it?

Or how you... Sort of. I mean, we moved to a very shishi neighborhood and were the cone heads in it. And I don't care. I thought the cone heads was a funny movie. Yeah. And I like being hated a little bit. It's funny to me.

I mean, and isn't that part of being an adult? Like when you're a teen, you go to a party and you're like, oh, I don't know what to do with my arms. Yeah. So I remember being jealous. We would go to these punk shows as kids and you're never cool enough for punk, especially when you're 15. And me and my buddy Steve used to joke around about how awesome it must be to have no arms because you just walk into the place and you're not uncomfortable because you can't do anything

with your arm. But when you have arms, you're like, right. Get these things off of me. Or if you're handcuffed or something like, I'm not awkward. I'm a handcuffed. But then you get to be like 25. and you go, I hope ever this party hates me. I hope we used to clear out parties.

My buddy Derek, he'd have a clipboard that didn't exist. And he'd be my dance coach. And I'd be like doing these stupid modern dance things. And be going, more feeling. Let's get it out. Come on. He ties sweater around. And we'd wreck the house and people would just go, let's get out of here.

These guys are a nightmare. And we'd be in an empty room. So what are you? Are you a comedian? I'm a, pundit? I don't know what I am. It's, it's a unique position to being, because I think I'm a pundit by, by proxy. I was in comedy and entertainment and I was, you know, did vice for 15 years. Co-founder of vice. Yes, created it, really. I mean, they did the, Shane did the sales,

and Sirouche handled the music, and I did the culture. But as soon as you start questioning the left, then you're not 100% with them. And if you're not 100% with them, you're 100% against them. So shortly after leaving Vice, you know, I was doing comedy videos and pitching TV shows where I was welcome and did a ton of pilots and stuff and movies and books. And then they started realizing that I don't like the government and they cut you off. So I can't go to a pitch room in L.A. anymore. And so wait, wait, wait. Before you get there, how is it that people who who used to say don't trust the man, don't trust anyone over 30, don't trust the government. They're now so pro-government.

They're saying Donald Trump is a fascist. We got to get rid of all of guns. I mean, it's so it hurts. There's so much gentle, I mean, a mental gymnast in the liberal heads. No, I don't understand how it is. It's the opposite. It's mental obesity. We are living in an incurious zenith right now

where people have just, like North Koreans, they're just fed this crap. The government realized that they can accrue a lot of power by starting the whole Nazi myth and saying white supremacy is everywhere. Everyone's a Nazi. And the more fear they instill with that, the more power they get.

You think the government started that? I think the DNC is behind this. I think a lot of globalists funded. Yeah. The left, yeah. And the Antifa are, you know, what's the word, easy fools? Useful it is. And I think when you're incurious, you're an easy target for manipulation.

And I think half of the country has been manipulated. I mean, within the liberals, we were talking about this earlier, but I think there's like this sliver of radicals. Like the, what were they called? I was confused them with wasabi sauce. The Wahhabis? Wasabi. They're spicy on your tuna and they're spicy on your religion. So take it easy with that.

Little dose of Wahhabi. One will blow you up, the other right, burn your tongue. I feel like my nose is going to blow up from that Wahhabi. So they took over Islam and ruined it. But, you know, the moderate Muslims are still people you want to grab a coffee with because it won't be a beer. And with the left, they've let these radicals take over. And Antifa, Ilhan Omar, they polluted the whole left. Right.

You said Antifa is a useful idiot. The paramilitary wing of the DNC. But I wonder if it's not going to end up that the DNC were useful idiots. Because it seems. For the extreme left. For the people who want to stop a free market, want to blow up the system, have direct democracy, which we know what that'll lead to. I mean, I think Nancy Pelosi, I mean, she's afraid of those people now. She's afraid of AOC. You know what it's like, remember in Iran

in the revolution, I think the communists said to the Muslim clerics, just stay here and sit on that bench and run the government as just a little toy, like as a placeholder while I fight these people on the streets. And then the commies were done. And they said, okay, Muslims move. We're taking over the government now and they said no. Right. We're staying here. Right. And they started terrorizing their own people. Look at the riots in the streets in Iran with the women didn't want to wear the hijab in 1981. Right, right. That's what's happening with the DNC now. I mean, I accidentally let these people in and Joe Biden is their enemy. Barack Obama. Barack Obama is their enemy now. He didn't go far enough. Well, Hillary is never

going to win with them. Well, I don't know. Hillary shouldn't. win with anybody. But I'm saying, like, she's a radical and she's not radical enough. She says we're not civil. She says Antifa rhetoric. And they hate her for being too mainstream. And I was saying this earlier, they hate MLK. He's too much of a white male to him.

Well, he has the one line that everybody thinks of MLK saying, and that is, judge me by the content of my character. That's not part of the left. You have to destroy that. Yeah. Maritocracy is right wing. Yeah. And I think it's interesting that it was the biography of the biographer of Martin Luther King, the one that Coretta and everybody says, oh, this is him. It was that guy that about six months ago came out and nobody knew what to do with it, came out with a story that he has evidence that the FBI has tape and transcripts of Martin Luther King witnessing and doing nothing at a rape.

and being part of an orgy. Now, here's the guy that the King family has said, he's the authority on Martin Luther King. He's coming out now and saying that. Some people just think, oh, he's just being honest. I wonder if that's not well-timed. Yeah, that does sound sinister. Well, wasn't there a thing that with the Freedom of Information Act

where it's been whatever it's been? No, it's not. That is not coming out until 2028. Oh, okay. So he says you won't have access to it until 2028. So we don't know if it exists. But it's interesting that it's a strong lefty that is coming out with that at the time when Americans, I shouldn't say Americans, when the left doesn't want to hear about content of character.

Yeah. I don't want to get to Alex Jonesy, but I know that what is going on right now is largely inorganic. Yes. And at my talk on October 12th, I did a talk of the men. Manhattan Republican Club. Basically a comedy set. I can't even go to comedy clubs anymore. So I do my talks.

So you go to the Republican clubs. Oh, yeah. It was hilarious. Same crowd. I had my Japanese friend there. He represented the head of the Japan Socialist Party in 1960. And then I came out as a student who killed that guy, Otoa Yamaguchi, with Asian glasses on and a plastic sword.

And I assassinate him the same way the socialist was assassinated. Clearly satirical, although the left tries to make everything. They're incapable of humor anymore. Did the talk. I've done a talk there tons of times, and there's never anything happening. But this is right when the left were being known as unhinged and violent. Have we really talked about this? And I think they needed to switch the narrative, and they needed right-wing violence.

So they kept antagonizing everyone there looking for a fight. They eventually got one when they ambushed guys on the way home. But the crazy thing about that evening was the attack was so. frantic. Like they were calling the old lady who runs the place, the sweet old lady, calling her the seaworth saying they're going to rape her calls from all over the country. They've smashed the windows, glued the locks, really silly manifesto stuck to the door about, we will not tolerate American barbarism. And then they had all my signs. And here's the weird part. On the signs, it was like Gavin McKinnis as a fascist. They spelled my name wrong. Now, that's not just a typo. Like if I say

Glenn Beck is the most dangerous thing in the country, and I spell it with one N. I'm clearly not familiar with the guy. Like if I see Glenn Beck with one N, that should look weird to me because I've seen the name a million times. If you've never seen the name, you use one N. And here's another curious thing. And by the way, those signs are beautiful, like really well designed, which is not something the far left is known for.

Really? Wait, usually use period blood or something and say him suck. Yeah. But there was this big long canvas thing that had white supremacy written out and crossed out. But the letters had been embroidered on with like a different colored fabric. And then the X was another different colored fabric beautifully sewn on the way like it would say the Mets on the back of your jacket. Right. And I'm looking at a $7,000 piece of canvas that I'm not even sure I could have made.

I mean, I'd have to send it to China or something. So this is just some kids getting together to fight fascism. It's remarkable. And you know that they are getting money from the left. There are those supporters that are getting money. And the media will call you a conspiracy theorist the minute you mention a name like George Soros. But at the same time, they'll mention like the Koch brothers. And that's not a conspiracy.

Yeah. For anybody on the left getting money, it is a. conspiracy? Well, we're not playing by the rules anymore is the problem. And I think another big problem is the conservative movement is sort of like England in the revolution when they see savages jumping from the trees with a bunch of French guys and Scots and Irish. And they still keep going, huh! Meanwhile, they get a knife in their back. And I think that the right keeps pushing out. I mean, this company, no offense, got a little bit scared because Antifa was attacking me. And during all this October 12th, flurry, same people with the canvas sign,

started antagonizing, you know, the staff and the top brass. And they buckle. And like I know of 35, I have a list I put together, 35 proud boys who were fired. And this was a company getting a bunch of calls and just going, you're fired. Like get a bunch of calls. However, there's another side. that coin. Sometimes the antagonism can become so intense like there was this tattoo shop in Hamilton where the owner said to the guy, look, they're boycotting the tattoo shop. They're terrorizing

all the patrons. So we're going under. You tell me what to do. Should we both go down with the ship and I close the tattoo shop and move? Or should I fire you and try to maintain the business? And that, that guy just said, well, I'll leave. I don't want to drag down the whole tattoo shop. Right. The reason why I had you on several times, because I thought that you had made an important discovery, I think, that there was a time, I think, in your career where you were just whatever. You know, you're a comedian, and you were just whatever. And then there was this point where you realize, crap, this is getting really serious. and I was there.

I remember I got my first real death threats where people were actually trying to carry it out. And I remember always having to wear a bulletproof vest and they ran my car off the road. It was crazy. And I remember thinking to myself, I'm going to be really careful on what I say. Not because I'm not going to buckle under, but I'm not willing to die for the things that are a joke. you know what I mean? And I think you kind of hit that place

where you're not buckling under but you you're not willing to die for the things that you don't believe that are just jokes. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. Really?

Like I thought you were saying two different things at the beginning there. I definitely with Vice had a pure hedonism mentality. Right. The world's going to burn. September 11th happened.

I changed forever. I read Death of the West by Papi Can that. year. And I just started saying, wait, what's been going on here? Right. I mean, I was always anti-government libertarian, but then I started worrying about Islam and this sort of self-hatred, ethnomasicism that the West has. And I started realizing we have to stop being ashamed, start being proud of who we are and showing that. And then also with feminism, as I got older, I started seeing all these spinsters, all these 40-something, 30-somethings, girls say, what have I done? And I realized, wait a minute, this traditional family life that we've been eschewing,

all these years has incredible merit, especially when you see the plan B is misery and depression and becoming a booty call. That's the funny thing about the left. These days, there's no plan B. I want to remove the patriarchy for what? A matriarchy, paganism? No nothing. No borders, no all, no USA at all. And you go, well, that's not an improvement. Right. Like, at least Palestine wants to take over Israel. Right. They don't want to just obliterate everything. And these, like, leftists are far more radical than a lot of radical Muslims. So I changed my course on that. But as far as humor goes, I can't stop it.

I remember I was a class clown as a kid. I even took the short bus and I was in the class for special kids because that's where they just put everyone. There was a kid in that class, by the way, who had cancer. And her grades were fine. The teachers just didn't want to look at her bald head. So it was like the island of misfit toys. And only the vast majority of them had mental problems. The rest were just ugly or had a problem or we're too tall.

But I remember sitting on my hand saying, don't be the class clown. Dad is furious. He's Scottish. They're very, you don't want to make them angry. And I just couldn't stop. And I still can't stop. Like at this talk we did on Saturday at the DC Free Speech Rally, my daughter won these rubber handcuffs that are super stretchy.

And I just couldn't resist doing this joke where I came out handcuffed and it was really serious at the beginning saying, they think they can chain us down. They think they can hold us back. They think they can handcuff us and stop our voices. Well, we're here to tell them that we defy their chains. We break their chains. And then it goes, wow. And then I'm trying to break.

And even the guys on the right behind me didn't get it and assume that I didn't realize that rubber doesn't smash like glass. One guy even came up and helped me. And I'm like, dude, that's my property broke. I was going to do a callback to that. Now it's gone. And I said, you know, my daughter helped me write that bit. I thought it was a little too carrot top. And of course, you know, the conservative gadflies,

the pests that swarm around all these things. So I'd huffing the post and BuzzFeed. They go, Gavin came out with these handcuffs. He meant to break his symbol. He couldn't even break them. And then Milo comes out dressed as Laura Lumer with fake tits. And they go vicious attack on Lumer. But aren't they friends?

Yes. Clearly you're not going to attack the person right there who's on after you. Right. Although that would be pretty funny. But they are, you know, before I became polarized, I would get credit for doing things that were funny or smart that I never intended. That I was like, and you're like, yes. So you're not Mr. Cohesion anymore. you're not bringing all together kumbaya anymore?

No, I am trying to bring people together. Yeah. That's how what I see your identity is. Right, right, right. But I'm saying before I was, before I was on Fox, okay, I get credit for things that I didn't, that I didn't mean that way or wasn't, I didn't mean it to be funny and it turned out to be funny. Then once you become a force to be reckoned with, then you will be blamed and they will, that nothing is. funny that you do. You'll never get credit for funny that you course didn't mean that is a humorous thing. And nothing is smart. So you are in this, you're in this opposite world where I don't think

people didn't understand it a few years ago. And now I think regular people are starting to understand this depersonizing, if you will, where you're not even a person. And, you're not even a person, anymore. Well, it's clearly a tactic and it has nothing to do with hate or promoting violence. It has to do with us being effective. And that's bad because it might get Trump reelected, which is ironic because you seem to hate him so much. But anyone on the right who's charming or has an audience and isn't an obvious villain, they are very scared of. And that's why you get banned. And I was thinking about the other day and I go, what makes me effective? And what did I do that was so dangerous. And I think a lot of it was pride, not white pride, but Western pride,

which, by the way, is the opposite of identity politics and says any race come here and thrive. Pride in the truth of what makes us successful. Exactly. The West is the best. Well, you said it yourself. What was it in that book? Miracles and Massacres where you said it was either the little guys doing it their own way or the little guys doing it. it wrong because they listened to the big guys. I'm paraphrasing you terribly there. Yeah. But like Wounded Knee was going fine until they were told to take the guns away from the prison. Right, from the government. Right. So, and by the way, through all those horrible things, slavery and the Civil War and everything, it was rough, you know, but we figured it all out together

and here we are. That's why I hate these statues being taken down. Yes, that was, that guy, maybe that guy was pro-slavery. Not all Confederates were. But, by removing that history, you're removing the part that we all struggled through checks and balances and horrible things and big mistakes like Jim Crow and we finally got here, which is not perfect, but it's the best. And you're erasing all that. Yeah, the only thing, you know, Nathan Bedford Forrest, he was, he was a nightmare. He was a nightmare.

He was skinning people and putting their skins up on barns. So you can say, okay, you know, that and founding of the KKK probably shouldn't have a statue. But General Lee, some of the other Confederates that were not necessarily. Lee was an honorable man. He was an honorable man. But we live in this world where it's black or white. Yeah. You can't have.

That's what I mean about the incurious stuff. You know, they're so weak. I saw a video. It just broke my heart of Johnny Rebel being taken. down and the way that they ripped him off a giant pedestal and the way he fell in the sort of, I don't know what it was, copper or whatever, just goes, hunk and he's all twisted and they're kicking him. Johnny Rubble was conscripted. Like the archetype of Johnny Rebel isn't this like, I want more slavery. It was a guy who was forced to go to war, got shrapnel in his knee or whatever.

That became gangrenous and infected and he died alone on a battlefield somewhere. It's an homage to the men who die for us. And they're tearing it down because he's a Nazi. It's just disgusting. So I think I was one of the first people to say, like, I'm done with apologizing. I'm done with the shame thing. The West is the best. I'm really proud of what we did here. The proud boys were our patriots who love Trump and love America.

And they recognized, by the way, when he says make America great again, he's not talking about slavery. He's talking about 1985, jet skis, mullets, wrap around sunglasses, that Budweiser dog. That funny looking pit bull. Sure, that's exactly what he's talking about. He means like rock and roll, big cell phones, all that stuff. America is, but we're in a we cycle. America is at best, what was happening in 1985 is we were in the me cycle. And when you're in the me cycle, the leadership, everybody's about me, me, me,

and we think that's bad, but it's good for society because the leader can't get everybody together and go, we, we, we should do this to them, them, them. You know what I mean? You're describing my tattoos. Luxury employed a million of the poor and odious pride, a million more. Envy itself and vanity were ministers of industry. All of this stuff that we vilify is great for the economy. Yes.

Great for America. And great for people. Yes. Hitler was a wee. Mussolini was a wee. Stalin was a wee. Reagan was a me. Yes.

And when you empower the individual, that's when everything changes. And also, when you empower the individual, you're usurping the power. the power from big government, big tech, to academia, the top brass of the police, not the rank and file. And I think that the left hates that more than anything. Hate has a home there because shame is a great way to manipulate people. And you think of academia and leftist culture. I'd say mainstream American culture is predicated on shame now. It has been for a long time. And if you go to any college, you'll see that when white males get up or any male really, they have to say, hi, I'm a middle class, able-bodied white male, and I'm obviously

coming from a place of privilege, so I understand that what I'm about to say has less merit than someone who's a minority status. They all say that caveat. That is crazy. It's almost like a sex offender having to register where he lives. They say that caveat, and then they say, where's the bathroom or whatever, you know? And that goes to kindergarten. My kids are learning about how Columbus Day is wrong. We need Indigenous People's Day, and we stole this land from the Indians, and it was built on slavery. And those are just facts. We fought with the Indians for 400 years and eventually won.

And with slavery, the balance sheet was zero after the Civil War. So whatever was built was gone. And the Native Americans didn't free their slaves. They had eight out of every eight people on Native American reservations. There was one slave. For every eight people. Really? I didn't know that.

And the Emancipation Proclamation, nor the 13th Amendment applies to the reservations. They didn't free. their slave still 1880. But you can't vilify them for that. No, no vilification of anyone. No. But the winners.

Right. And I don't like shame. I tried it. It doesn't feel good. No, it doesn't. I don't like apologizing. I'm happy to debate.

And it's, it's what we went through in some degree, um, in the 1970s with, uh, with Jimmy Carter. Yeah. Where we were told we weren't great.

And that causes somebody like a Reagan or a Trump to stand up because nobody wants to. to feel that way all the time. Nobody, because it's not true. It's, you know, I'm a huge fan of, that's the part that gets me is. I'm up for whatever's true. Right. Me too. I'm a huge fan of Winston Churchill until you read about him in India. Okay. Or South Africa. Yeah. And Gandhi in South Africa. You read, you read both, both things. Over here in India, he was not a good guy. In the West, he was a good guy. So which one is he? He's both. He's both. We all are both. The country is both. But all we're focusing on is the bad. That gets us nowhere. We're going to throw all of the good out along with the

bad and leave you with what? With what? Is it fixable? I was talking to Roger Stone this morning and he said, how'd the rally go? He couldn't go because they revoked his travel permanent the last second. And I said, I don't know why I do these things. Is it good for free speech or does it just give the left more fodder? There's a riot with proud boys and Antifa. Is that helping anyone? And he said the proud boys are irrevocable. Their reputation is ruined. They should just disband and then start with a new name because they'll always be the Nazi group. The left does. You show them the black guys and they go, it's multiracial white supremacy, which is my favorite term of the past two years. And this story I keep repeating, but it really struck me. I was drinking in a bar

for a change. I sometimes go to these things called bars. And the wine salesman was selling all the wines. And he goes, this is a South African wine. And the bartender, I know I'm a good guy. He goes, I'm not interested in South African wines. And the guy goes, okay, you know, he doesn't want to hurt the sale, puts them away. And I didn't bring it up. But he obviously said that because he sees South Africa's racist. right now they're boiling children alive they're taking power drills to old ladies they're murdering a man's entire family these white farmers and then leaving him alive so he'll kill himself it's the most sadistic if it was in a horror movie you'd say this movie's over the top and uh this guy bartender and i i would argue probably the vast majority of americans maybe even westerners still

see South Africa as Soweto apartheid 1982. Now, it was over in what? 83? That was all those decades ago. More than a quarter century ago. And South Africa will never shake that. And that's why there's so much

apathy to the murders going on there. They go, whatever, racist, good, another racist died. And so if Americans can't update the archetype from 1983 to I don't think it's just Americans. I think it's the world. The world, the West. The West is, the West is just upside down on almost everything.

I mean, I've never, you know, I read Manuel Kant back in the 90s and he said, there are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things that I do not believe. And I thought to myself, what kind of world are you living in where you have to say that. And I couldn't imagine it. This is 1995. Right. It's this one. Oh, we're here. It's this one. Even liberals, they will get drunk and whisper to me horrible things that they've thought. Like one guy told me recently that he was in a park and there was a little boy playing baseball. And he said, I'll play with you because the kid didn't have anyone to play with. So they're throwing a ball back and forth. And then the two lesbian mothers came up to him and said, thanks. We don't think of stuff like that. I don't know how to play baseball.

Sometimes we worry that we've deprived him of something major here. And he goes, I would never tell that story in public in a million years. Because he's a popular left-wing comedian. That's important. It's a true anecdote, too. I know. I work with a woman who has a child with her spouse's woman. They say the same thing.

I don't know what to do. There is a difference between many. and women. I didn't know what to do with my girls. I have three girls. I'm lost. They're crying at stuff and I'm like, I have no idea. And my wife just looks at me like, what the hell are you thinking? I'm like, I don't know. I did. She does nothing. Right. It's not like you sit down with your 12 year old and say, what's going? And she goes, okay, here's the real problem here. So I like this boy and he doesn't like me at all. And I feel like I was more popular last year, but a lot of the girls now don't like me as much because I had a fight with this girl, Jennifer. And they just go, oh, no. Yeah. You got to. And my

son. You got to give them heroin. Right. So they get sort of droopy and go, here's what's really going on, dad. That's my new parenting tip. But my son, I know exactly what he's thinking. Yeah. You know, because I've been there. I can see it. I can see it in him. My wife cannot see it in my son. She doesn't relate to my son on those troubled times. I do. My daughter, I can't relate to on those troubled times. My wife looks at me like I'm an alien. There's a difference. There's a difference. And that's what's so great about moms and dads together. We're there for both sides. And there's nothing wrong. As long as we can talk to, what's the problem for a lesbian to say? I mean, I don't. Benefits the kids when we get this out in the open.

I had a lesbian couple I know say, I said, you're ever going to adopt? And she goes, no way. This craziness going on there, I would never subject that to a kid. And when she said craziness, she meant being this unusual, a lesbian. I mean, it's literally in the dictionary definition of, not normal, right? I'm not saying it's bad, but as far as statistics go, it's not the norm. Wow. I can't even say that. You can't say that. Listen to me trip over my own words. I know. And she could never say that. Why can't she say that? You know, what's his name? Dan Savage,

that gay activist in San Francisco. He had a book out. My wife is a fagg, and I was reading it. I don't think you can say that either. But it's a compliment. She likes fags. So I don't think you could say it for them. I don't think the hag part of that sentence is the problem. And it was the chapter I don't want DJ to read. And DJ was his kid. It's his kid. He adopted a kid. And in the chapter, he goes, when we got him, I was just like, well, I didn't really feel anything.

And I thought, what have we done here? What are we doing? So he's talking about it, too, is insulated world of gay activists who can say, you know, fag and have their own little bubble. But when we restrict speech, we restrict progress. And those lesbian stories are important for everyone to know. I think when a celebrity ODs and they say he passed, what was he on? How many opioids did he take? Why was he taking them for how long? You know, Philip Seymour Hoffman had his own apartment where he would do heroin because he didn't want the kids to see the needles and stuff. How long did he have that apartment? Why are we putting him on the cover

of Rolling Stone wiping Drake away so we can have the junkie? over there. We have an opioid epidemic in this country. It's funny that we're always looking for Nazis. Who's the white supremacist? That guy said something that I could construe that way. He made an analogy that was sort of Nazi-ish. So they're looking for typos, really, in your behavior. Meanwhile, who doesn't know a kid who has died of an opioid overdose? I mean, I can think of three, just off the top of my head now, like bartender's son, my engineer's best friend. the neighbor down the street, rich kids, poor kids. So that's real deaths.

I think there's, I forget the exact numbers, but it's something like, I forget it. I'm going to get the number wrong, but it's like 100 a month or something. It's, I forget the exact stat, but these are real deaths, real issues. How many blacks are murdered by blacks a day? I think it's something like 18. But you're talking about some sheriff who said an unfortunate joke in the 80s, like the guy from NASCAR who lost his sponsorship because his dad said the N-word 30 years ago, their priorities are misaligned.

You're looking for homophobia, racism, sexism, child pornography. Check out radical Islam. Check out whatever happened to this story where there was a Muslim encampment, a compound, and two children were starved to death as some kind of bizarre punishment. That story just poof, vanished. Well, there's two of those. There was one that vanished a year before. And then the other one, same group, same scenario.

Poof. Poof. And there's something like 20 of them across the country. And they all worship the same Imam in Pakistan who started the whole thing. Why is the media totally silent on this? Why are they such pussies? There's so many stories. Because they don't believe in us.

No, they think they're better than us. This is why I hate about socialists. They play God. I'll decide who eats and who gets how much. And every time we try to play God, he put a check and balance in there for that. And it's called Mao killing 80 million people and Stalin killing 30 million,

and Hitler killing 6 million. That's what happens when you decide to take over. And that's what the media does now. They sit down and they go, I'm going to control the information because I don't want another Rodney King. So if you get too much truth, you might riot and it might lead to hate crimes. So I'm going to dole it out.

And they start censoring stories. I was listening to the CBC the other day, and this guy was trying to explain that, let's say, global warming is totally true and all your stats are accurate. China's building a new coal plant like every week. Oh, yeah. So no matter what we do, it will be totally tsunamis by their pollution. And as he was saying this, the journalist was talking over him and saying, I don't think we need to get to that. I'm not sure where you're getting your facts.

And was drowning out his. Oh, that's absolutely true. And he said, he said, I'm going to keep saying this sentence. You can cut me off, do whatever you want. plowing through her as she spoke over him. Or Fareed Zakaria the other day. I can't stop talking now. Fried Zakaria the other day, he goes, it pains me to say that Trump's, I don't know, foreign policy is being, is effective or something like that. It pains me. It should be good.

You're in physical pain reporting the news. Right. You said, you said earlier, you know, how much you hate Trump. I actually don't. I really was against Trump. I'm not a, not a never-Trumper, never was a never-trumper. I was against Trump because of his record when he was running, he had none. And every indication was, that's not what he actually believes. And every indication from past experience with politicians, none of them say what they believe or will do. So when this guy was making these claims, I'm thinking, this is not his record. He's always given money to the left. I don't think he's going to do any of those things. But I said at the time, but if he does, I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong.

I admitted that I was wrong on Trump. He started doing things that he said he was going to do. And I'm like, no idea. No idea. Didn't think he'd do that. The Kavanaugh thing, no president in history would have, well, in modern history, would have stood that long for Kavanaugh. He stood all the way through.

That guy has balls of steel, balls of steel. balls of steel. And at least when he says he's going to do stuff, he lies about crap all the time. But when he says, I'm going to do this and this and this, I believe him. Yeah,

I believe him. And his policies, foreign policies are effective because I have, I've always said, I want a president with a twitchy eye. I want one that's like, and I know what I don't know. And he says,

his eyes twitched a bit and you're like, that son of a bitch might just shoot us down right now. You know what I mean? Yeah. I didn't want one that the American people were like, I don't know, man, he might kill us all. But he has that twitchy eye. Yeah. For the enemies, they look at him and they're like, he's crazy enough to do it.

That's why our foreign policy is working. And a lot of cultures deeply respect a pit bull. Especially in the Middle East, absolutely. I think Palestine thinks Israel's wall is cool deep down. I think they're impressed. deep down because it's such a show of strength. And they go, that was kind of badass. Wow.

You guys are really playing hard about now. There's not a single hero in the Middle East that was, you know, Lawrence of Arabia. That was a... Muhammad himself changed halfway through the Quran. Yeah. I mean, there's not, there's no heroes in the Middle East that weren't conquerors. They understand conquerors. Just a different culture.

Yeah. But you know what's crazy about what you say, that you look at Israel with Trump and moving the embassy to Jerusalem. And at one point, 100% of his adult children were in relationships with Jews. Ivanka converts to Orthodox Judaism. No, but he's a Nazi. And you see, there's so much hatred with secular Jews, not Orthodox Jews, but secular Jews in America. I saw this website. I think it's called We've Seen This Before.com. And it's Jewish people against Trump. And it makes me wonder, can the left ever be assaged? I mean, look at, we're talking about Iran earlier. If part of your bang is coming out of your hijab,

you're getting caned. Yeah. So, and your socks are purple. I can see them. They're doing everything you ask for. They're wearing a burqa. They're praying every day. They're reading the Quran, but we can see some bang.

So they're literally insatiable. And I feel it's that way with the left. Like with you, will you ever not be a Nazi in Martha's Vineyard when you're 85? No. Will South Africa ever not be Soweto apartheid? No. Will Trump ever not be an anti-Semite? Or a homopophobe?

Where do they get the homophobia from? The guy put, what's his name? On the stage, he was a major investor, Facebook original investor. Oh, crap. What's his name? Peter Thiel. He puts Peter Thiel on stage, the first openly gay speaker, I think, at a GOP convention. And he puts him in a prominent place.

And he's open about it. And everybody is cool with it. And somehow or another, he's homophobic? What does his president have to do? He's the only, he's the first president to campaign to be for same-sex marriage. He was fine with it. Yes, exactly. Obama was against it.

Hillary was against it. And I think Trump's biggest crime is he doesn't really care about gays. Like they're not there or not there. They're sort of like, shouldn't that where we should, we should all be about people's sexuality? Why aren't you talking about my acronyms? Right. And he goes, I don't know. I just, I don't really.

I'm not big into dancing or fashion, so I don't see you guys around that much. I'm a golf guy. You guys tend not to go near golf. That's what he's saying. So it makes me wonder why are we doing our jobs? Like, are we, if we're not bringing people together and, you know, dispelling myths, should we just be partisan and give up? No, you have to stand and dispel myths.

I don't know, and I've looked through him. history, Gavin, I don't know of somebody who has been in the position of media, not a leader, okay, but in the position of media that has stood at a time where it's a, it's a me generation and it's a me movement, or I'm sorry, a we movement. Right. That has been successful in threading the needle of of standing against the we in favor of the eye and has has not just destroyed themselves and been used as you know it just why are we doing it because it seems right if you look at history the only way you go from me to we and from we to we to me is violent revolution in the streets and we saw that in in dc two days ago i'm not i'm not sure

I think that you see, I think that's their solution for it. And it may ultimately be the solution, you know, as it was with slavery. I mean, it just, you got to a point where we have to fight. We got a fight. And I hope we don't get to that. But I think that the left, no, I shouldn't say this. I think the Democrats are starting to wake up and going, wait a minute, wait a minute. What?

We're for what now? I think some of them are starting to wake up. You're seeing it with the intellectual dark web a bit to where these guys are liberals, but they're classical liberals. Yep, and they've been vilified. Yeah, I know. Jordan Peterson and you and I and Richard Spencer, David Duke, that's all in the same bucket for them. I know.

And Martin Luther King is going to be in that bucket too. He's going to be. But I'm telling you that it's not about them. It's about, or us, it's the common sense that people just know. That makes no sense. They're getting, they're pushing it so far. This is what they always do. They're pushing it so far to where you have to be insane to believe it.

Or a zombie. Look at Kamala Harris. She's 20% now. Joe Biden is 22%. She's such a dunce that when the Jussie Smallett thing happened, she, no instincts. when a news it's what's 30 below in Chicago that night

And it's not Trump town Ski masks with hats on top of this They had to get an extra size Larger to get on top of the big woolly ski mask Yeah okay And you had the news on This story reeks You know the way racist talk

Yo, what's up? I hate black people Yo, I see you on Empire You suck You're wound in that show For us at the Klan At the Klan management When we is watching Empire, yo

what? And Kamala Harris just knee-jerk goes, this is terrible, what's happening? This is not our America. Yeah, I know it's not our America, dummy. That's why you should know this is bullshit. And the idea of that woman being in charge of the strongest, most powerful country in the world and having that terrible of a bullshit detector is downright scary. Are you going to be able to differentiate between a hoax when it's a terrorist attack, a 9-11 coming up? And you're like, I'm not falling for this. This is no, Jesse Smollett. let the jihadist lie. And her whole black thing is such a lie.

Like Colin Kaepernick and Corey Booker and Melissa Harris Perry, all these people who grew up white and they exaggerate their blackness to get black credibility. And it's so hard to see that they're lying. Her mother's Indian. She looks Indian. She was raised by a white dad. Went to school in Montreal. Hey, Kamala Harris.

What are Chitlins? Hey, Kamala Harris. Who's Geraldine Jones? What percentage of the Wu-Tang clan is Asian? What's the Asian guy's name in the ghetto boys? Like, she doesn't know anything. When black people go to the Chinese corner store in Philly, what do they usually get on their chicken?

Salt pepper ketchup. She doesn't know any of that because it's not her culture. Her biological dad owned slaves. And she's sitting there talking about busing and segregation. We're in Montreal from the French school to the English school. Were you talking about, you liar? Cory Booker's neighborhood was so white that his parents had to file legal papers because the neighbors were trying to prevent them from moving in. His expeep probably grew up whiter than we did.

But he invents a friend. Yo, I was hanging with my boy, T-Bone. And then black people go, yeah, T-Bone is more like a southern thing. We don't really call each other T-Bone. Yeah, we do. I'm always talking to T-Bone. He's a gangster. And they scoured Jersey City for T-Bone.

He didn't appear. was in Hyden, yo. So it's such obvious lies. And these people are climbing up as presidential hopefuls. Sometimes I wonder if this is all for not. Like you're saying we have to dispel myths. Kamala Harris is the second most popular candidate because she's a black woman and she's not even really a black woman.

How did we all fall for that? Tell me about Joe Biden. He's a creep. I have a funny theory about the molesting. It's not, it's not actually. Well, the whole like, hmm.

What instinct is that? I like you. We've talked before. I see you in person. The first thing I think is, oh, the hair, the last thing I want to do

is go like, let me smell that white hair. It's number nine million and 36 on my things I'd like to do to Glenn back. Let me just inhale. Breathe it. Breathe it in. Breathe it in.

And then kids, Jesus Christ, I mean, especially in this day and age, you just, when you see a kid, you're like, hey, buddy, how you doing? What's up, Buster? Hey, everyone does high fives now. Have you noticed that? There's no more like, hi. Right. I hug my own kids. That's about it.

And even then, they're sort of like, what are you doing? Get off. But one theory is, if he's innocent and he's not a pedophile, is that he's obviously incredibly distraught about losing his son. I mean, that must play with your mind. You still got to socialize and not ball your eyes out everywhere you go. So you take Xanax or one of these downers that are very similar. Sometimes Oxy is, you know, Oxy, for example, is exactly heroin. So you're on these opioids and junkies are very like touchy and scratchy and hey, man, what's going on?

They're sort of like slots. They're just sort of, they're on you and you're like, get off of me, heroin addict. Sorry, man. What's going? on on, dude. I like glasses. What was way bands? Just drop my glasses.

That might be why so touchy feeling, but the real problem with Joe is... He does use the word man a lot, too. Just like you were doing there. Yeah, yeah. He's really groovy. He's like the freak brothers. Remember that comic book?

But Joe's problem is he's been around for too long. And, you know, we've become... The left is not the left. It was five years ago. So, you know, we were talking of Barack and Hillary were anti-gay marriage, pro-borders. They want to build a wall back in 2004. Joe was part of all that. And the social media age, not going to let him forget it. So he's got too many old-timey traditional liberal values, which are now considered

conservative values. What did Thomas Sol say? You can go from a liberal to a conservative in 20 years without changing your views because it's the background that switches like an SNL set. and he's still in that S&L set with a different background. And he's doomed. No chance he's going to be the guy. No chance. Who do you think it's going to be? I think it's going to be, I think Kamala Harris is going to make it up there.

I think so too. And I think she's dangerous because nobody is paying attention. And they'll be like, I don't know. She seems nice. I kind of like her. Look, the new thing with the left is if you're white and your mail step aside. Like, that's their mantra. Right.

But the rest of America, I think the rest of America is, it has this really bad thing. I mean, we had it when Lincoln was killed. I mean, we probably shouldn't have gone. Bad theater security? Yeah, no, but we probably shouldn't have gone, hmm, okay. Martin Luther King, we're just, we got to this place to where, you know, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, RFCK, everybody, everybody's killed. and we're just like, okay, did we do the Civil Rights Act thing back in 64?

Okay, I think we're done with this. So let's just move on. And still there's just this little poison that just needs to be, you know, lanced. So you think there's a sort of a national apathy going on right now? I think there's something, I think there is a national feeling of, I just, I just, I just, I just want this to end. I just, I just want this to end. And if they could, if they can convince themselves that that person, that person is just like, me. And that person is, they're smart and, and they're nice. And you know what? I can be popular by

liking this person. And I think that person is just going to bring us all together and stop the arguing. I think people will run to that. Americans are very busy and they're anti-political. And I think with Barack Obama, they said, George W. Bush was embarrassing and all the Europeans thought we were dumb. And they think we're racist. So let's just get an eloquent black guy up there. And then we can just stop thinking about it. Then they did that. And then the country got worse and more racial and more identity politics than ever before and $500 million to cylindron, all these terrible gaffes and an Islam problem. And then the dad said, oh, that didn't work. All right, hold on. Let me get off the couch. I always, I call this election the real housewives election because it got women's asses

on the couch and men's asses off the couch. Because men don't like that show. And the woman were like, I'm not voting for Hillary. She's, she, didn't she kill a bunch of rape victims? I'm not interested in that. And then the dads went, God damn it. I'll take off my slippers and they get their reading glasses down. All right, I'm voting. And hopefully that's going to happen in this next election.

But I think you're right. There's no heart. Like when you talk to Hillary supporters or even Kamala Harris supporters, you say, what's your favorite policy that she has? And it's nothing but identity politics. They have nothing to say. Who do you like that's running in the DNC if you had to pick one? For what?

For president. For what? None of them. What you have to. You don't like ultimatums I've noticed. No, I don't. I remember you said with the previous election, it's like putting a baby in a microwave or putting a baby in boiling oil. Well, yeah, this is, all of them are like putting a baby in a microwave after you've put them in boiling oil.

I would think if I had to vote for somebody in the primary, I might go for Joe Biden because I think Joe Biden is so easily beatable. Everybody says that, oh, no, he's going to be tough. I don't think so. No. Because I think he looks really old. I think he's starting to kind of like, you know, and I think Trump will just steamroll him. I think that's not the question, though.

who would be your favorite DNC candidate to become president? Trump is killed. Cory Booker because I- What? No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because I think he would be so absolutely ineffective. Oh, okay. One of those.

Yeah, I don't think there's any way, because I mean, he'd pull a Spartacus thing and everybody would be like, shut up, man. Yeah, I show you're saying. He would be, there's no, he would not make any. friends be able to do anything because everyone would hate him. I had a conservative in Canada explained to me that that's why Justin Trudeau is great because he's so useless. He's such a Zoolander prime minister that he goes, I don't want anything to do with Iran anymore.

Justin, they give us 15,000 jobs. Okay, let's do it. Iran's back. So you're just like, all right, let's go over here and you sit down and I'll go run the country. Yeah. I don't think Corey Booker believes in much. I think he'll just, he just, he'll just go with whatever is, you know. Maybe his VP will be T-bone. And people will go, where's the vice president? Oh, he's mad busy, y'all.

He'll be here later, probably. He's on a different shift. He does the night shift. Who would you pick? I like Tulsi Gabbard. Why? Am I pronouncing that right? I like that she's anti-war. I think she's hot. I won't mind looking at her for four years. Right. I love the little streak. Right.

And she, I don't know, she seems to have balls. I might go for Marianne Williamson. Is that the love guru? Yeah. Can you imagine press conferences with her? You imagine the state of the union with her? Can you believe the shit show? I was, it's crazy.

I will fight love. No, I'll fight hate with love. I'll see you on that battlefield. Like Trump is at all going, Whoa, please not her. That's my Achilles heel. No! Like he started melting into the ground.

Not long! I would pay big money to see that. I would pay big money to see a debate between Mary and Williams and Donald Trump. I was felt so embarrassed for the entire left side of the country. I did. I did. When I saw that, I was grimacing. There were.

several of those moments. Yeah. There are several of those moments. Oh, it was just a, it was shocking. Who wants free healthcare for illegal aliens? You mean the other seven billion people? They all come here for heart transplants? What are you talking about?

It would be a very bad idea. What's the waiting list for a liver transplant when you're up against seven billion other people? Eight thousand years? Good. Vampires can get liver transplant. All they drink is blood. Their livers are perfect.

What a joke. What was the other crazy thing they all put up their hands for? Oh, yeah, men who need abortions. That's called just taking a huge shit. It's not quite as consequential as a human. What are you talking about? Men can have babies. Yes.

Men can have babies. They can have gallstones. That's pretty painful. Well, we don't know if that's a baby or not because it's only a baby when we declare it to be a baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it could be a baby or a gallstone the entire time. That's going to become the new threat with parents and toddlers. I swear to God, if you don't clean up your room, I'm going to abort you. Your days are numbered, buddy. It's illegal up until a year. No, illegal up. I think I've heard academics say that. In fact, Peter Singer. Peter Singer. Peter Singer. He's

the chair of ethics at Princeton. And he said, he said up to the first year. And then he came out and apologized. And he said, I shouldn't have put a date on it because it's really... Roughly. It's roughly a year. But it's until they can recognize that there is a tomorrow. Once they can recognize there is a tomorrow, at any point you can kill them prior to that or after that. So if you're getting old and you're like, and you don't understand the concept of tomorrow, you're not a person anymore. Which is sort of a common mentality in Northern Europe.

the Netherlands and Finland and they euthanized like it's like it ain't no fang, especially if they need organs in China. But I had a professor in 1990, 1990. His name was Marvin Glass. He was the head of the Canadian Communist Party and he was our teacher. And he said that back in 90. He said, the reason I chose a year is a monkey can do anything a human baby can at 11 months. So say you can have an 11-month baby like feed itself.

A monkey can do that. But now I'm not human anymore because someone can do a trick. They're the potential here. It's the potential. You know, I can kill him as long as they're acting like a monkey. No, but his mentality is like it hasn't been actualized yet. So it's okay. Sort of like if you destroyed a building and they hadn't even started the foundation,

then it's not a big deal. That doesn't even make sense. I know. In both cases, it just seems like random metrics. And we can, we can distill a human down to when is tomorrow and can you do tricks? We do a lot more stuff, you know. We philosophize. We invent things. I'd like to, I'd like to make that as our, our, uh, our questions in debates. Yeah. Is there tomorrow and can you do any tricks? Sorry, you got it wrong. There's never tomorrow when there's love.

We have to kill it. You have to kill you now. Okay, I'm changing it. It's too late. Whatever your name is. Who the hell is she anyway? She's like Oprah's life coach or something? Course and Miracles.

She's responsible for the course and miracle. What the hell are you doing there? I'm more qualified. No. You don't have enough love in you. You're just full of hate. That is true. Will you tell tell me what happened in your, in your neighborhood last night?

Because I know we started with your wife was upset at you. Oh, yeah. My daughter's 12 and, you know, 12-year-olds, they get morose. And my wife's, you know, abroad. She gets upset with my daughter's acting morose. And she just said, why did we move to this neighborhood? But it's, I can't list all the crazy shit that happened to me after that. talk. I mean, I will in a book at some point. But it was, first of all, nine proud boys getting

arrested. Three of them are facing serious jail time for defending themselves in an ambush. And this is because the DNC weaponized a silly fight that they didn't start, an ambush, and they fought back. And then de Blasio, Cuomo, the attorney general, all get on and have the same tweet basically that says, we don't tolerate hate in New York. And the story became, they were just like, the caveman roaming the streets beating gays and Muslims for not agreeing with them you get a thing no who's next which in New York City if you did that your club would just be destroyed in like 10 minutes like you don't go gay bashing in New York City your hands would just be like the elephant man's hands I'm not even done with Chelsea yeah go to Harlem

dressed as a clan member and see how long you last. It's not exactly big at central here. And then it just kept going. And it spread to my neighborhood. They put up posters all over my kids, the street down my kid's school that said, by Nazi and had all these quotes taken out of context and all these lies. And I actually met the woman who caught the guy and had him arrested.

And she said he just had on this catatonic stare. Like, what? What is happening? He talked like the doctor in 650-pound life. You know, that, excuse me, what are you doing? Why are you lying to me? You say you lose 60 pounds. You put on 40 pounds.

I can't do the operation now. He was that kind of guy. So he clearly just answered a Craigslist ad and said, put these posters up. There was on the highway that leads to my village, a massive banner hanging off the highway that said, Gavin McKinnis is a Nazi, held down with water. And the state troopers are the only ones who can touch that. So the local cops said, I can't do anything about this. Um, then my rich neighbors put signs on my lawn that said, hey, does no home here.

And then all the neighbors started doing it. It was like a thing they said they should do. Like there was an email chain saying, let's show him that love. We'll meet him on this battlefield. Love him to death. And of course, the signs mean my family has no home here. And I hate you is what it really means, right? Um, and then my, my daughter's math tutor quit and weird shit.

Like it was, it just, you had, you lost a babysitter. No, my babysitter stuck to her guns. Really? Yes, but her boyfriend was forced to break up with her because the parents didn't want him, their son getting any McKinness germs on them, the cooties. Why did that boy listen to them, by the way? So the babysitters dumped.

Because there are no boys anymore. Okay, I'll dump her. If my parents told me to dump anyone after I was age of maybe six, I would say it would just be white noise. I would have eloped. I would have loped. Really? You don't want me to date her? I'm marrying her. Okay, because there's one thing I'm thinking about when I make out with chicks.

It's my parents. Oh, wait. My mother doesn't enjoy this. Sorry. What the hell is the matter with him? But the number of people, so it was Antifa propaganda, really, that started it. But and strange, you know, globalist money, expensive money going into all of these. Because there was a lot of stuff going on. And endless articles, an article a day. And then, you know, the thing that bothered.

mean, it goes back to what we're talking about this in curious populace is they just went, oh, there's a banner there that some vandals put up. He's a Nazi. And this woman approached my wife, and she said, hi, I think it's terrible what's happening to you and your family. I want to come over and talk to you and show you that it's just a small percentage of the community. And most of us just care about our kids and don't believe any of this. We don't mind. I hate Trump, but I don't care if other people like him. It's a free country. And my wife goes, I'd love to talk to someone. I feel so alone here. And the woman goes, okay, but I'm a Jew. Is that okay?

Like my wife was going to go, listen here, Jew. Don't you ever call this house again? Why do you tell me that at the beginning? Ew, I've got to wash my earhole now. Gross. What's your wife say? She went, what? Of course.

What the hell do you think? I just moved here from New York City. You think I'm anti-Semitic? You know, it's exhausted I'd be? Yes, come over. But when is anyone, like, anywhere? We don't have to go too far back, but look at like any normal civilized western home saying,

yeah, you're not bringing Sandy, by the way. I don't have Jews in my house. But that's what people are now starting to believe that there's all these places where there's no blacks, no Jews, no dogs. There were those places. Yes. But we have moved. It's like the left is stuck in 1960.

But what's crazy is we had the 60s, then the 70s, then the 80s, it was pretty much over and we're all joking about it in a hunchy bunkers place. And then the 90s, it was truly dead. 2000's, all right, let's start our lives now and put all that in the past. And then all of a sudden, someone grabbed 1960, 1950 even, and then just runched it up into 2016 because of Trump, I guess. Now, that's a ludicrous thing to do. But for everyone to go, yep, my child had never happened. And America is a racist hellhole. I think that's why, I think that's the biggest lie.

We have the media, the media on both coasts, and the coasts and the universities are all pumping this out indoor system. But the average person in the average town in America is not this way. They're not feeling this way. And Charles Murray talked about this and coming apart. He said this one group is getting so separate. Remember he's got that chart you can do. little test. It says things like, have you had a non-craft beer in the past week? Have you seen a Transformers movie? It's all these silly little metrics to see how separated an elitist you've become.

And that's the, I think Ezra Levant calls him the five peas. It's like the professors. When he says police, he means like police chiefs, not rank and file. The politicians and the media, the papers, yeah. And it's this tiny group. I would say that they're like, five to 10% of the population. I think so too. And they're controlling the conversation for the whole country. And with all this big tech censorship, they're really ramping up this control.

And it's making them a really uneventful bubble. Like, if you check Twitter recently, it's just, I want to kill Trump. It's horrible. I can't believe women give birth to men. They made these sexists with something that Chelsea Peretti said, or Sarah Silverman is bitching about the fireworks, saying she wants to punch them all in the head

because they're scaring her dog. And then you have Bet Midler, pissed off that Trump isn't smiling enough at the fireworks, saying these are my fireworks I paid for that you don't appreciate. Because in the picture, he's got a De Niro, New York face, which is like, that's a smile in New York. Oh, I'm a grandfather. That's him being ecstatic. And that's without these checks and balances and people going, hey, that's a New York face is something I could have said to that tweet. But we can't discuss with them anymore.

They've been separated. and they're easier to control that way in this crazy bubble of brainwashing. And the rest of us aren't sitting here going, wow, these guys are really got their finger on the pulse with white supremacy. The rest of us are just going, you've lost your minds. And I always say this is distinctly un-American, this pattern we're in now. Because as you know, before the revolution, along the East Coast, there's all these newspapers that the Brits encouraged,

and they encouraged dissension, that's the word. They encourage conflict and arguing. and eventually we got talking so much left and right. The Brits said let's have conservative papers and liberal papers, and they were talking so much that they eventually figured out, you know these stupid gun things they make us go to at the tavern every week? We can use these guns to start a revolution when we don't pay the king any tax.

And then we created America based on free speech. And now we have no more papers. They all have to be the same and you can't talk to each other. Well, that's not American. So what are you doing now? I mean, it's, if you weren't wearing the killer, Hawaiian shirts, I mean. Since you fired me, I started my own thing, free speech.combeach. Right.

And it's, it's, it's, I think it might be the only thing we're, we can do, at least right now, is start our own platforms. Have to. Behind a paywall where Adam Krola describes it as his own pirate ship. I see it more as an arc and the rain is coming down hard. and I just got the last two giraffes on. It's awkward because they hate each other, but I'm like, guys, you have to work it out, or giraffes are done.

But I got them on in June 1st, and it's paying for itself. It's profitable. And I can say whatever I want. And you know, it's funny, too, now that I can say whatever I want, there's no bigotry or prejudice. This lie that it's just waiting to come out.

Like, I worked at Rebel Media for Ezra, and there was no HR, are there. You could grab a girl's ass and make all the tit jokes you want. And we all got along amazingly. I had this joke I would do where I'd undo my pants and my belt and I would walk over and I'd let my pants fall down. And I did it to males and females. And I go, God damn it, this belt. I'm sorry with that. And do you out my pants again? It's like Benny Hill levels of comedy. I did it at the gym the other day. I was skipping rope and my pants started falling down. And I was like, John, can you get this? Please. I can't stop.

especially when you wear Y fronts, it really helps the joke. And everyone, like there was zero harassment. This idea that were these monsters that have to be controlled is this we mentality that I'm better than you. So I'll hold down your evil and let you do things like I'm a corrections officer. Which usually people who see that. I mean, I'm convinced you see the flaws in others that you recognize from yourself. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Oh, I think when you hate someone, it's because. because you recognize something that you hate about yourself. Correct. And I think for the left to just assume that all of us have this depatriate inside of us, says a lot about them. Yeah. Well, they talk about genocide and how we want to, we don't want trans people to live and we don't want fat people to exist.

By the way, you're doing a much better job of killing you than I am. Right. A 600 pounder. I saw this picture of a woman in a, so fat, she's in a wheel. wheelchair and it said, we are the future. It's like, I'm watching you dying right now. And you're bragging about how you're going to be around for a long time. You got 10 years in you, lady. But, uh, uh, uh, oh, I think I forgot what I was talking about. This, this. Oh, yeah, they talk about genocide, how we have to kill all these people. We want to kill the trans and kill the fats and

kill the gays. But when you look at socialism, that's what they end up doing. Yes. And I think that part of the depersoning is because they want us dead. Like people, if, look at what happened in Venezuela. Venezuela, five to nine thousand people, now a UN report has come out, five to nine thousand people have been killed by the government in the last six months because they were all the ones that either disagreed with the government, disagreed with the policy. So they were standing in the way. You, you, you, you nudge, you push, you, you should.

shove, then you shoot. Yep. That's the way it happens. And right now, we're up to the shove part. We really are. And socialism has lost its stigma. Like they say, well, this isn't Venezuela. There's plenty of money around and we're just going to distribute it in a fair and equitable way. And they use these juvenile analogies like, if Johnny has 10 building blocks and Joey has one, shouldn't Jimmy and Joey be able to share?

And you're like, I don't know how we got the building blocks. Maybe he busted his ass. And this guy could have been just spending building blocks like they were nothing. I'm not redistributing it. But yeah, they don't seem to understand that socialism leaves to genocide. And sometimes I worry they don't care. Like no USA at all. Doesn't that imply a lot of dead bodies? And Colter, if she died and there was a picture of her with their brains hanging out, that would become a meme.

Oh, yeah. And there'd be a funny saying around it. Look at the head with what's her name, the comedian. Oh, yeah. With Kathy Griffith. Kathy Griffin. I mean, I couldn't have done that. You couldn't have done that.

To Barack Obama, can you imagine. Remember there was a rodeo clown who dressed? I know you're sensitive about rodeo clowns. One of your fellow rodeo clowns dressed up as Barack Obama and he was fired. There's a massive outrage because he was so racist. They go, we dress like every president every year. This goes back to Lincoln. Right.

It's definitely a double standard. But there's something with the left that's so macabre. And it comes, I think, from cool culture. You know, heroin addicts, junkies and too fast to live, too young to do. die and I hope I die before get old. And it was, it's a cool thing that 19 year olds say. But now that's become mainstream, but now death is fine. And you can have an abortion, you know, after the baby's born, celebrate.

And euthanasia, we should do this. And we should just kill these people. And it's a strange phenomenon because I don't want my enemies to die. I don't have that vitriol. I don't. Again, I don't think most Americans do. I think most Americans can live side by side with each other. I can live next.

I could live next to Ben and Jerry for the rest of my life. I do. And be happy that, you know, they're making ice cream and they're successful. Just don't try to force me to believe the things that you believe. Right. And I have no problem with that. Don't tread on me. Right.

Well, my neighbors wear pussy hats, you know, geriatric old ladies and pussy hats. And I just laugh because that's from a joke on a bus. So you have a joke on your head. And I just go, I don't go, what? I have to put signs on your lawn. And we have to argue. I heard later that some, there was a Jewish guy at a bar that saw I was there and he left because he felt unsafe.

The only person that's going to get hurt is me. Like Tommy Robinson and I were banned from Australia because we might have, that might induce violence. The only violence that's going to go down is against us. We're the ones who need bodyguards. Like I always, I see Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow. They're always pictured with their kids. It's like, going on a bike ride. Tucker can't show his kids.

You can't show your kids. Never. I'd love to show my kids. If I rub out their eyes, if I ever take a picture of them, I have to make sure that it doesn't go anywhere or they're not showing their faces. And it doesn't that say a lot about the left versus the right? And then another tricky thing about it too is,

so now you can't show your kids, and now you're easier to dehumanize. And now you're easier to kill. So de-platform, de-person, and now you're just killing a useless droid of nothing. And a relevant human being who's not a family man. How did this go from comedy to... Well, that's another problem, too, with this climate.

Like, Sarah Silverman contacted me recently because we were friends back before the world turned to shit. And we just started fighting right away. And she said, look, I just contacted you because we're this inside joke, whatever. And I didn't want to fight. And you're never going to change my mind. I'm never going to change your mind. And we sort of...

We won't talk for another 10 years. But it's because of the climate we're in. You know, they say, I heard you were a Nazi that kills people. And so you're sitting there defending yourself and you can't joke around because you have to dispel about 30 myths. And it bothers me when people know you. People know you. You know, people say those things about me and I'll be like, how long have you known me? Oh, look at Alan Dershowitz, you know, totally disowned by all his friends.

For what? For not hating Trump? I saw that Antifa had this seminar, sort of like a hit list where they showed everyone who's going to be at the free speech rally and then listed all the horrible things about them. And I was watching it and I was ready to see mine quotes taken out of context and meaning construed. And then I read the bullet points and they're all true. And I'm reading them going, yeah, this is your reasons to kill. And one of them, the horrific things of bullet points was says most women would be happier at home. And I'm reading and going, I think that's a pretty good theory.

And why do you want to kill me? Because I have a theory. I'm not Mao. This isn't a dictum. It's never going to affect you. I don't have death squads that are going to go to cubicles and remove women as a scream or have a fake mustache. Hi, I'm a man.

Don't tell Gavin McKinnis. I can't ruin your life. So why do you want to kill me? It's bizarre. And sometimes a lot of these leftists, they do have crazy positions. that become policies. You know, like, look at Chicago. This lie that cops are out to kill blacks, hunt them for sport,

became so mainstream, this silly idea, and they are so powerful, the establishment left, that cops stopped going to the south side of Chicago because they'd lose their pension, they lose their career, they get sued. And what happened? Complete war zone. Bigger death toll than New York City, even though we're three times the size. So you have the power.

Your crazy ideas change lies. I'm just a guy talking. And you're trying to shut down my life and ruin my kids' life and my wife's life and fucking kill me and kill you. Try to teach everybody else around you a lesson. Yeah. That's why your website is important. Thank you. Really important.

I would like you to come over so I could fire you. I'm sorry. I don't know if my limousine goes into those parts of town. It isn't a pretty shady part of Brooklyn. Thank you very much. Thanks for me. I know you didn't fire me. I'm just joking, obviously,

but I really appreciate you. Give me the chance to see my... Gavin and I hope you know this. I mean, I had you on, you know, I was thinking you were coming down the next week to be on my show as well. I'm a big fan of yours. My son-in-law...

He's borderline gay for me. Oh, no. He's getting weird. He'd get naked with you, I think. He would just as... Well, I'm willing to try. Yeah. We should be willing to try these things.

You should be open-minded. We're all... It's a spectrum, right? I'm two-spirit. Yeah. But anything I can do to help. I think we have to start standing together or we are going to be picked off one by one.

Yeah, I'm not trying to get the last word, but I totally agree with you. And that's something I've always been impressed with you about is this whole idea of coming together. And I never talked shit about any never-trumpers like Shapiro. There's sort of two sides now. There's like the Shapiro. Crowder side and then there's the Cernovich, you know, more, more right side and they hate each other's

gods and Milo always talks about Ben Shapiro. I never did any of that because we're at war now and we need all the Indians and all the French and all the Irish. We all need to be unified against the king. Yes. Only way to win. Thanks, Kevin. Thanks. Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people. Don't know.