The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 69 | Leftists Need Black America, but Candace Owens Doesn’t Need the Left | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: February 29, 2020

The leftist media has tried to whitewash her, paint her as privileged, and call her a traitor to her race. But conservative activist and BLEXIT founder Candace Owens has had enough of the games and victimization. Once a leftist herself, she watched as the Left demonized cultural icons like Donald Trump and Kanye West and realized how dependent the Left is on black America. She has experienced firsthand how desperately the Left insists that black Americans are victims in the Trump era, especially when they disagree. But her rough upbringing and strong work ethic have led her to a different calling: to free black America from the bondage of progressivism. And like Kanye and Trump, she’s not letting any politician tell her what to believe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today I want you to meet the vociferous, charming, and unbelievable 30-year-old woman at the helm of a strange new cultural movement that is absolutely reshaping America. A movement so influential that it probably will shape the 2020 election, especially if she's right. She says that Donald Trump will get 30% of the black vote. Donald Trump only got 8% of the black vote in 2016. 15% would be a landslide. She believes between 20 and 30. Well, 8% was before she started speaking out, and Kanye West started wearing a Make America Great Again hat

and hugging Trump in the Oval Office. Candace Owens is the one that played an enormous role in making that moment happen. She created Blexit as in Black Exit, the idea that Black people shouldn't have to vote against their own well-being just to appease someone else, especially not under the guise, and it's progressive. And she has taken her movement into the...

the White House and into Congress. She has really pissed off a lot of people, but she has invigorated many people who felt lost and alone in the world. Today, I am positive you already know who she is, but I invite you to hear her in this setting recorded in our Mercury Studios. It all comes together. This is one of the episodes after you finish. You're probably going to walk away with the conversation in your mind. Enrichment and argument, a rich dialogue, and maybe even a reason to believe. Today, Candice Owen. I'm so excited to talk to you.

I think you are one of the bravest and most eager learners I have seen in a long time, and you're super, super smart and gifted at communication. But before I get into all of the, the things that you have done recently and the transformation in you, I want to know who you were. You grew up, your dad was an alcoholic, you said your life wasn't easy. But was it hard? You know, that's been one of the things that's been the craziest, the craziest element of my political journey is watching the left and the media try to almost whitewash me. Like if, when you read about Candace Owens, it sounds like I was an overprivileged, a rich girl that grew up in

Connecticut. For some reason, just saying you grew up in Connecticut makes people think that you're wealthy. There's lots of bad places in Connecticut. Right, really bad. And getting worse, actually, right now. It's sitting on an economic bubble, thanks to Democrat policies. But my life has been tremendously hard. It's been a very complicated life. I grew up with, you know, my mother psychologically and physically abusive to me and my siblings. My dad was an alcoholic. He wasn't abusive, but he, you know, financially impotent, couldn't provide for the family, and just tremendously selfish. That's kind of what comes with the disease of alcoholism, where him drinking, we came first. So I've never been able to relax, meaning that I always had to have a job.

I always had to take care of myself. From what age? From forever. I mean, the first time I had a job, I believe I was 14 years old. I worked at a video store. And I've never, I just never not worked. And I always say that my... Is that a bad thing? No, it's not a bad thing at all. But the anxiety of knowing that you don't have parents that can take care of you, that's a little different, right? So everything that I had was make or break, right?

There was no fallback plan. There's, I guess, a confidence people have when you know that if you really mess up, your parents can help you for a period or can help you pay rent for a bit. I never had that. And so I was in that of my house. Me and my mom fought a lot. I was a, you know, a girl that I lived with my boyfriend when I was 15 years old. for months because my mom would kick me out for months at a time.

Wow. When I was, yeah, when I was a teenager growing up. So I had a really, just a really rough upbringing. Uncles in prison. Just what I always say, I guess, is, I guess can be true of a lot of black Americans that what you see growing up because our culture is so broken. I don't know, I don't know many black Americans who don't know relatives that were in prison, relatives that have been, you know, arrested in trouble and just sort of had

this a lot of dysfunction in my household. I mean, one of my earliest memories just to give you an idea. of the sort of household I grew up in was my uncle, his girlfriend, set him on fire. Jeez. Literally. And then this is a sort of dysfunction. And he had to come live with us. A very tiny apartment, roach-infested apartment, and Trusset Boulevard, me and my three sisters

shared a room. So there was three of us in there. And he had to come live with us for a bit because he had nowhere else to go. And he couldn't, you know, really walk. He couldn't really do much for a while until he got better. But this was sort of like my upbringing. I was saved because my grandparents, when I was nine years old, came to our apartment and my granddad basically said to my parents, he didn't want his grandbabies growing up in this climate. And

they moved us into their more middle class home. So all nine of us were living in this house. I was living in the attic. My parents were living in the basement. I mean, we were really trying to make it work. And my grandfather just had a different way of life that I would return to after living a very liberal life. There was a difference in our grandparents. There was. You know, especially, I don't know how old your grandparents were, but mine did not, they were. They were not raised in the 60s.

And there was just a different work ethic, a different understanding, a much more of a be your own person. You are responsible for you, nobody else. complaining. My grandfather never complained. He just worked every single day of his life. And it's interesting that you said that they weren't, they didn't grow up in the 60s because I had a recent conversation with my granddad, just a heart to heart around the time when I was getting married. And I asked him kind of quite seriously, like, why is this, like, why is this your son talking about my father? I have a good relationship with my father, so I don't want it to paint like I don't.

But just in, you know, the constant irresponsibility, never able to do anything, takes from his children, doesn't give back. And my granddad said something. He said to me, it was the hippies. You know, it was the hippie generation that did this. And I just thought, wow, you know, this idea of liberalism, you know, more freedom, more freedom. We don't have to have rules or responsibilities. He was like, they brought in the smoking and the drinking and to live and let live mentality. So it's interesting that you, that you call that out because that's.

It was the generation before that had done the world, had gone to World War II. They came home after a depression, a war. seen horrible things. They had gone without for so long. They have children. All of a sudden we become relatively wealthy. Things are going well in America. And who doesn't want to give their child everything? And so they had nothing that was bad, nothing, hard. And of course, that's the generation you're going to pump out. And I talk about that. I mean, I really believe in my whole, in my book, I actually wrote a chapter called Over civilization. What happens when you achieve piece. That's the period to watch out for. That's where things can go really bad. Because when you,

when you're not actually striving to correct things that are actually bad, you'll start creating badness around you. I think that there's something about the human spirit that we want to triumph. We want to end a war. We want to say we did something. And like you said, they didn't have anything because things were good. And that's also for my generation, millennials, things have been great. Great. So we're creating suffering around us, pretending to see it everywhere. So you, said that you returned to the way of your grandfather. Yeah, it took a while. It took a while.

It did. Tell me about that period in your life. Yeah, so I always say to people, like, I took the most liberal route to conservatism. It took a very liberal route to conservatism. And I just, you know, I was constantly in trouble. I was always a very smart person. You know, I did well in school. But I was, I was, there was an, there was an upset.

I felt like the world owed me something because so much of my life seemed unfair. Like the parents that I had, it was unfair. The money that I didn't have, that was unfair. I had an education system that was telling me it was because the world is fundamentally unfair. And the system of, you know, capitalism in America and white Republicans is making it unfair. And I just had a chip on my shoulder through much of my life. And, you know, I found liberalism as to be a home for that because liberalism, liberal perspective sort of welcomes the idea that we shouldn't have to be responsible because the world is just corrupt and backwards.

So why should we have to be decent people? It just sort of allows you to absolve all responsibility, all self-responsibility. And I wasn't like, you know, I was, you know, partying, but not more than anybody else was. I just, I just, I was a bad person. I don't have to say it. I just was a really bad person, a person that I'm not proud of. And I didn't treat people well. I wasn't true to my word.

And I was mean. and that meanness came from an anger, a deep-seated anger. And then what happened that sort of changed out around was, first off, I got smack with reality when I left college without a degree and because my student loans got declined going into my senior year, but I had over $100,000 in student loan debt. Oh, my. And we didn't have Bernie saying he was going to wave a magic wand and get rid of it. Right, right.

So I hit the ground running. and my instinct to work was always there. My grandfather just raised us to, we just always worked. It's an Owens quality, as my granddad says. And I hit the ground running in New York City. And in New York City, 100 grand, brutal. Sleeping on friends' couches. I mean, I was not doing well.

Babysitting here. And then I had sort of a big break in that I just started interviewing for jobs as an assistant at private equity firms because I heard that you could start out making 50K, you know, if you just weren't assistant, I was like, I can do this. I know I don't have a degree. And I got hired on the spot at this firm. And it really changed things for me because I just saw how much my employers had. And there was just an interest for me always in terms of wanting to make money, wanting to have and not, you know, just wanting to figure out how I could be wealthy, how I could, how I could pay off my student loans, how I could have something. And I just worked my butt off. And then

the big thing that happened was my grandmother died. And it completely changed me because she was really the only maternal figure that I had. My grandmother and my grandmother deeply, deeply faithful. And the last thing she said to me, we were not expecting her to die. She was hospitalized for what was supposed to be 48 hours. She just said, you know, I worry about you. I worry about you in New York City. And, you know, I worry about the person that you're becoming. And I said to her, you know, because I was being flashy. I have this expensive bag. and I thought she would think that it was all cool and she just thought none of it was cool.

And I think she... Our grandparents were not that different. Not into it. She wasn't into my Stella McCartney bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was her last word she ever spoke to me and then she died. And it took a lot out of me.

I mean, I still mourn my grandmother's death. It was just, it rocked my family because she was... She was the rock. Yeah. And then I just, I wanted to make her proud, you know? Um, yeah, so I, uh, I just, yeah, emotionally, I do. Yeah, I really do. I mean, grandparents have been just incredible people. Um, so I just sort of, uh, dedicated myself to just being a better person,

whatever I thought that was. What would make my grandparents proud? What makes my granddad proud? Um, and I just, I just, I changed. And I started really getting serious about, um, you know, not going out as much, uh, not partying, uh, really dedicating myself to getting myself to getting myself out of debt and understanding the people that they were in context of politics was they were they were deeply conservative they and they wouldn't say that my grandmother didn't care about politics but they were deeply conservative so were they Republicans or conservative apolitical but they were conservative yeah yeah apolitical they were not democrats or Republicans aren't most blacks conservative right right they just don't vote we just don't know it

no one turns the lights on and says everything about about the way you were raised is actually conservative. How do you miss that, though? I mean, it's so clear. Right. Yeah, you know, it's funny that you ask that because I've thought deeply about this, obviously. And it's so, what the left has done, you have to give them credit for just how brilliant they have been. They've executed a perfect, a royal flush on Black America. And what they did was, which started in the 60s, obviously, with Lyndon Baines Johnson, the Great Society Act, the breakdown of the family.

marrying black America to the government. Don't marry your baby daddy. Marry the government. We're going to give you more money. Don't, you know, if there's no man in the household, everything starts there. When you remove the bedrock of the family, there's still an instinct to pursue paternity and maternity elsewhere.

So where did the kids get that maternity and paternity? The streets, the kids race to the streets, they culture. Why do you think the left has invested so much time in having a strangle hold on culture? And this is why culture was so much. important. And this is what conservatives and Republicans missed, right? How important culture is. Andrew Breitbart knew, right? He said politics, famously politics is downstream from culture and he was so accurate in saying that. And so black America invested heavily in culture because they were

no longer sitting around the dinner table and learning from mom and dad. They were being raised by Jay-Z by Beyonce by whatever rapper they idolized, whatever hip-hop artist they idolized was now raising them and the left and the Democrats put all of their eggs in that basket. And this is why Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Jay-Z dancing with her a few nights before the, before election night, even though I'm sure she cannot name even one Jay-Z song or even one Beyonce album. And one might even be called Beyonce. She wouldn't be able to do it. Right. She wouldn't be able to do it. But they they understood that. And then the second element was, is to make sure who else raises the kids? If it's not the hip-hop artist, you're being raised in school. Left has a stranglehold on the education system.

Jesse Jackson showing up at Stanford, hey, oh, hey, ho, Western Civ has got to go. Now Western civilization isn't taught, right? So it was perfect. They were able to brainwash an entire generation, generations of black children by those two pathways, education and culture. I knew you hated LBJ, and I do too. There are a few presidents that stick out. Jackson, the second Johnson, the first Johnson is pretty bad too, Enwood Roe Wilson. But LBJ, I have a theory on, and I want to pass it by you and see what you think.

How did the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Act in the 19th? 1958 or 59. He stopped it. He was the one who blocked it in the Senate. He was so unbelievably racist. He hated black people. How did that guy bring all of this to the table and say, we're going to heal people? We're going to free people. We're going to heal people. I think that he and those who wrote that knew exactly what they were doing. Glenn, of course. And like I say, there's no history of that. There's no record. There's rewritten history.

If you ask the average black person when I got out of high school, if you had asked to me, Candace, who was the greatest president of all time, I would have said Lyndon Baines Johnson, it is taught if you are a black American that Lyndon Baines Johnson saved you. But I'm telling you, there is no record. I've never seen anybody. The record is what you learn in school. That is the way.

Of course there's a record, Glenn. I learned the record. What are you talking about? Right. You mean your research you do outside of the education system? That's right. You think that matters? Right.

They have 18 years, well, I get you not, not, if your children go to preschool. They have 15 years to pollute your children's minds, you know, with whatever they want. 15 years. Imagine sending your kids to indoctrination camps for 15 years. That's what we do. That's the challenge. We have to be able to reverse 15 years of indoctrination, right? This is the left is brilliant.

Lyndon B. Johnson was brilliant, right? You cannot discount the fact that they have been absolutely brilliant. When I study LBJ and I just go, how is it possible, Candace, that you would have answered the question that he was the greatest president ever for black America? He's one of the worst. He was an avowed racist. Oh, he was openly racist. I mean, and I talk about, I really talk about this in my book, the things that he would say,

he had a black person who he wouldn't even call by their first name because it didn't matter, right? I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years, right? There is a clear record that the man wasn't a bad record, but wasn't about racist, but here's the thing, Glenn, he was right, right? He did it. He did it. He married Black America to the Democrat Party, right? So evil.

And for that, it's evil, but it's brilliant, right? And for that, you have to almost respect the devious nature of a Democrat party. Yeah, I'm like that with Woodrow Wilson. who is also, he's one of the worst. He's the guy who really kind of set this train on the track and horrible racist and everything else. And you do have to look at it and say, you know, that's brilliant. It's absolutely evil, but it is brilliant.

And they've done it. I mean, there's some people like that throughout human history where the most evil people in the entire world, the most evil dictators. When you study them, you also have to understand they were brilliant, right? They were horrible. They were horrible, but they were brilliant. that they were able to execute so much evil

on so many people before people caught on. And that's how it always works. So much evil is being executed right now by the Democrat Party upon black America. And so much evil has been executed since the 1960s, and before that too. You know, really when we're talking about welfareism, it really starts with the new deal in FDR.

That was sort of the first time you started seeing Black America go, oh, well, maybe the Democrats have our best interests at heart. And LVJ just took it to a whole different level. level. But there, I, I almost appreciate how cunning and devious he was. And he got me too. I mean, I believed it. I was celebrating him just a few years ago. So what, just tell me what that day was like when you, because I know there were, there were things that I read, things that I discovered that I went. Oh, my gosh. And opened a door that I knew when I'd walk across that threshold. If I accept this.

this change on LBJ, I'm going to walk through a door and there's no going back. Tell me about that day when you found that out about him. Was that a big day for you? Oh, it's all been a big day. So here's what I say is I do want to point to what you just said because it's so important. My job with Black America isn't to wake them up to every little fact. My job is to just hit the first domino chip because that's all that had happened with me. It just takes one domino chip and then the whole board comes down, right?

It all lays flat. And you go, well, then could that have been wrong? Could that have been? That's literally what happened to me. It was just one thing that didn't add up. And that first thing was the Trump thing, being a racist, didn't add up. And then so I watched him do the what do you have to lose thing. And then I watched what the media did.

And I said, has a media, if the media could do this to Trump, who else has the media done this to? Is it possible? And then I suddenly started looking at conservative articles, looking at conservative speakers, people that I had dismissed, right? In the same way that so many people were dismissing Trump that I had dismissed as racist. And I went back and I found all of those Uncle Tom's and coons that I knew that I needed to stay away from. And I listened to them in their entirety and I didn't just listen to the media's interpretations of them. And I was floored, right?

And then it brought me to my real history, to real black history. And reading about someone like Lyndon Baines Johnson and really sort of that being the starting point for where we are today. it's it's overwhelming it's overwhelming it's it's it's um you feel a lot you feel you feel angry uh for sure but i think the biggest thing that i walked away with was a sense of passion uh it wasn't enough to just know it right i needed to spread it and it was like this is the gospel so i've got to let every single black american know that uh your whole life can change if you just wake up to the truth and there have been people uh the whole time that i've been trying to tell us and we have just routinely dismissed them

Tell me about as this change, well, first, give me your darkest day. Do you have a dark darkest day where you were like, or was it your grandmother's death? Or what was the day that you, that you were the quintessential person you don't like? Um, you know, I've never done anything that like, like, I was never like, um, good. So yeah, there's no evil. Like, oh my God, I was trapped around. I was just doing evil to people or anything like that. I just, when I said it and like who I, like who I was.

was. I was just, I was pretending. Right. Okay. And I think that that kind of goes hand in hand with being a leftist. Like you're pretending that you feel woke and feminist and because you don't have a man. You're doing everything. But you're not actually happy. You know, that was sort of what I was doing. Yeah, living a lie. Living a lie. So tell me the day, the first day where you saw it in your grandfather's eyes that he was not just proud of you because you've always been great, but he's proud of you because he's proud of you because you've turned a corner and you're turning into an amazing woman.

So I will say this. The thing that, you know, why I get so emotional love is because they have been, I mean, unconditional love and they're deeply, deeply religious. And I mean, every phase of my life,

they're just nothing but love. There's never a time where you can't come and they just don't love you. But when did I make my grandparents proud? It's unfortunate that, you know, my grandmother's not alive for this, but, you know,

my grandfather, something that just deeply, you know, used to always really upset my grandfather. He just has this thing about women drinking. He does, he's never drank his entire life. My grandmother never drank. You know, doing any of that. But he just, it's just something that just really bothered him. And, you know, I, I don't drink alcohol. I did for the six months ending up to my wedding, but I, jumping into, because you just can't say no. I'm just constantly giving you bottles of champagne. I didn't drink on my wedding day, though. But I just sort of decided when I was jumping into this political thing that I just didn't want to drink alcohol. I really wanted to be

present, like always present. And I remember sort of talking to my grandfather and I got in the phone with him and ask him more questions about his childhood, his upbringing, what he lived through, what he saw. And there was, you could just sense that just based on the questions I was asking, that he knew that I was there, right? That I was like, there it is. There. Finally, I have a true, a true legacy. And it's been just a beautiful thing to really be able to appreciate everything that my grandfather knows, his wisdom, everything he lived through. I mean, even his wisdom on when I talk about how Volef attacks me and I say, oh, black people that say, I'm in Ocantama Kuhn, he says, you know, baby, there's, there's always been those kind of black people that would say, oh, we shouldn't

be working with the white people. He was like, I never, you know, I never listened to them. I just gone about my business, you know, that wisdom of like, that's always going to be there. Kenneth, except that. Except that there's always going to be people that reject greatness because they don't have it in them. So it's been, it's been, just every, every moment of this has been beautiful. You know, he came to my, my last political event, my last Blexit, one of my speeches and then one of my Blexit rallies.

And it just, it was, it was just so special to have him there. So let's go now into that time period of your life. And, um, we've talked about. you're listening to the media and they're throwing Donald Trump, you know, in as a racist every step of the way. He's wildly popular with the black community. His, I mean, he was a TV star and, you know, part of pop culture and especially in the black community, right? That's right. And you're not buying into any of that, any of the, he's a racist.

Right. I just, it just didn't sound right. I was just saying, you know, if he was really this horrible person, why are we just finding out now? I mean, it was almost, it was patronizing. It was just, it's felt to me what the media was trying to do is like what adults do to their children. If you don't clean your room, Santa's not going to come. You know, it's just, if you vote for Trump, all these horrible things are going to happen. But we were totally fine celebrating him for decades when he wasn't running for president.

It was so clear that that was about power. So this happened after you had discovered. the LBJ fallacy? No. This is, is this the first? Yeah, Trump was first. You know,

it started with questioning my relationship with the media. That was, that was the first domino chip on the board for me. I think, I think that's the biggest thing that Donald Trump has done.

Exposed the media. By just saying, look it over there, they're frauds. And then they do it. Then they, you know, look at there. They're lying.

And then they lie. And you're like, okay, guys, if you want to help yourself, you should just stop what you're doing. Right. And they can't help themselves.

They can't help themselves. It's chronic. Right. I mean, it's a chronic obsession. They can't, and I always say this, which is so crazy. I genuinely think Trump would have lost if they just left him alone. I think so too. I think so too.

There was enough conservatives that were on the end, enough, you know, Democrats that were like, no way. That if they had just chilled a little bit, not tried to paint him as this horrible monster and calling him a Nazi and all these things, he would have lost. You might have even gotten him on. impeachment, even though I don't, you know, I think they were wrong about it, but you might have gotten him on impeachment. If you hadn't of every 10 minutes said, here's something that's going to be the last straw. I said that. Again, overplaying their hand. Like, it's like,

every time. It was like if they hadn't done everything prior to that, if they hadn't accused him of, I'm calling her not Christine Blazy for, who's the Stormy Daniels, right? They had the Stormy Daniels thing, the Russian collusion. It was just too much. All of it. All of it. Actually, I wasn't even interested by it. I mean, people, like I said, are getting fatigued. It's just like, it's the boy who cried wolf. Yeah, no, no. I was interested in the impeachment hearing.

So I was like, obviously nothing's going to happen. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, Chuck Schumer came out and said, we have to have an investigation with what's going on between him and William Barr. And you're like, and you're like, really? Right. You really think that's wise? Right. And it's actually funny because I had lunch with the president about four weeks ago now. I think it was about four weeks ago at the White House.

and we were just saying it was me and my husband and he's got Fox News on and he says he is the literally it was the day they announced that that they did the vote and he was in he was impeached

and they were sending it the articles to sign it and he's like can you believe this can you believe this they're impeaching impeach me for a perfect phone call and he started

he said it exactly what he said for a perfect phone call he said what do you think about this and I said to be honest I was like I find it to be incredibly boring I was like I was like nobody cares he's like you know they're like

this is obviously not going to go anywhere It's going to work in your favor, you know, because people are just fatigued. If it was the first thing they did, it would have been big. Big. But, I mean, we're like post Michael, what's his name, Michael Wolf? Michael Wolf book. There's just too much. Everything.

Yeah, I want to turn the TV off now, you know? If everything, you know, I've said for a long time, you know, if you tell me that McDonald's food is bad, okay, except the French fries are the best French fries out there. And if they say, and if the person says, no, even their French fries, you have no credibility. You know, if you can't find the McDonald's French fries in the Trump administration, you have no credibility. I love this analogy if you could not find the McDonald's French fries. That's so true. It is. I'm like, can say one thing nice about him. And you remember Hillary couldn't do it. Right. And one of their things, he actually paid her a good compliment. I forgot what he said about her. And that was a great, that was a great moment in the debates where he said, okay, why don't you both say something nice about each other.

And I think Trump said something about, maybe it wasn't about her children, but he said something nice about her. And it was a great compliment. And she couldn't do it because the left can't do it. They're incapable of acknowledging of this man has done anything right in his entire life. He's done stuff that I disagree with that they should love. Right. He's done stuff for unions that they would never have ever gotten past. Right. But no. No, he's evil. He's no good. Orange man bad. Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense for the average person. It's so true. Okay, so I have to ask you this question because you just talked about having lunch with Donald Trump. You were admittedly, this is a nobody, a nobody.

Now you're sitting having lunch. Oh, yeah, about four weeks ago, I think it was about four weeks ago I was having lunch with the president. Do you have at any point like, what the hell happened? Yeah, I really do. I mean, I give it all to God. It's the only way, and you'll understand this. First off, being in politics, you're one scandal away from your whole career being over. And they want me dead.

I mean, there is no person that they hate more than me because I represent an existential threat to them. And so, you know, for me, those, everything to me is just God, thank God, and thanking the people, the patriots around America who believed in me. From the beginning, I was just a girl who a few years ago uploaded a video on YouTube, you know, and just said, I'm gonna try to give Black America a different perspective and didn't know where it was gonna go. By my third video, 26 million views worldwide. I'm getting the call from Fox News.

It has been a rocket ship. Yeah. And there was nothing behind me. There was no business behind. There was nothing. It was just me, swimming, treading water, rather, not swimming, treading water, and trying to figure out what it all means,

but also taking the time to know that, you know, it could all be over tomorrow. And so the one thing that I promised myself was, first off, to always remain humble. I've seen, there's a lot of ego in politics. There's a lot of people that are in this to be a celebrity. I've seen a lot of nastiness. And, but to also, the one thing that I can control is to do the work. And that's what you and I were talking about.

It's one thing to have the feeling, which is how I started. I had a feeling something was wrong. And I was making videos just kind of being like, all right guys, everyone can't be racist. But I wanted to then convert that feeling into a fact. I wanted to be taken seriously. I wanted to go back and do the work and read what's out there from the great black conservatives that have done so much work and have been largely disregarded and dismissed by our community.

I wanted to make my grandparents proud. And that's an everyday task, right? There's never going to be a day where I feel like I know enough because it's impossible. There's you just told me something that I never knew before we started this podcast and now I'm like oh I really didn't know that I want to go I really got to get to the bottom of that now I love that feeling though I mean I always want to be the dumbest person in the room yes I everyone you know you're smarter than me because you've been around longer than me you've been researching this you've been on the side of truth longer than me so but but but but you know stuff that I don't know I know I know stuff you don't know that's that's the problem I think with progressivism is when you are told not to talk to somebody or you take this attitude that I'm just smart and they're stupid, there's no reason to listen to them.

But if you actually listen, you may still disagree, but you're going to learn a lot because you're going to see a perspective, if they're honest, you'll see a perspective that is actually well-th thought out at least through their life experiences. And you'll be like, oh my gosh. But narcissists can't do that. And the left consists of a ton of narcissists. And I've done that time and time again. There is no leftist program or leftist person that I wouldn't speak to. Because I feel that I'm on the side of truth.

Right. And if I'm not, I want to know. Because I'm humble enough to say I'm wrong and I want to pivot that and get smarter at that. They stay in their bubbles because they're arrogant and they're narcissists. And this is why Hollywood is a perfect breed. for leftism because a lot of them are a narcissist as it is. It's a culture of narcissism and so it becomes very easy for them to preach and to say we're all right and to stay in their comfortable spaces, but they never come over to the other side. If you were so certain,

right, so certain that what you knew was gospel and it was right, why wouldn't you want to go into every single room to say it? Why doesn't Al Sharps and want to get into a room with Larry Elder? He's been trying to debate Larry Ells and Jerry Al's been trying to be Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for decades. They won't do it because they know they're lying, right? They know that Larry Elder's telling the truth and the mask slides off when they get into the room with people that are willing to call them out and know the truth. Take you to another day that had to be really surreal. Where were you when JFK got shot? When Kanye tweeted your name. Yeah. So that story is way crazy than people even realized. So I had signed to work with Turning Point USA. And when Charlie Kirk and I got together,

Charlie was just the most, he didn't know anything about culture. And Charlie wouldn't have known culture if it walked up and punched him in the face and said, hey, I'm culture. I mean, it was bad. He didn't know the difference between Jay Z and Kanye. And we were sitting in a car ride, you know, because he were traveling together five days a week. And he was really drilling me on debating, you know, what to expect, you know, making sure that my debates and skills were strong. and training me a lot in many ways. And I said to him, Charlie, like, you know, you got to know this stuff. Culture's important.

And I said to him, you need to know who Kanye West is. Before Kanye Ever tweeted me, it was in December. And Charlie will tell you the story the exact same way. And I started making him listen to Kanye's music. And I said, he's going to be, if there's any person in Hollywood that will come out and who I believe is conservative, it's Kanye. Because I followed his career my entire life. He was the only person that I ever considered myself to be a fan of because of his general

perspective. if he got me through tough times as a kid, his music, because Kanye was a lot, he talked a lot about in his music having the courage to not be liked, right? Kanye is a public enemy number one. I mean, they've tried to kill him. You can't cancel Kanye because Kanye's been canceled 82,000 times, and he's still here, right?

And that's been his career arc. And so I was listening to a lot of Kanye West music to get myself into politics, and I was running, and Charlie started running to him every single day. Three months later, we're both listening to all Kanye music. And I was telling this to Nigel Farage's assistant of all people that I loved Kanye West. Two days later, a Niger for Roger's assistant sends me a screenshot of Kanye West tweet.

I love the way Candice owns thinks. And I thought it was a joke because I was like, okay, I don't know. Maybe this is like British humor. Like I literally, I was like, this is weird. Like, I don't really understand why he, why he, why he, why he, like, I don't understand why he photoshopped. Okay, you get it. Like, I like Kanye. And then I went, is there any chance?

this is real. And I went to Kanye's Twitter feed and I scrolled on and I saw it. And I can't even describe to you the feeling that I felt there. That had to be amazing. It was just like, you know, when you feel like the universe is conspiring to assist you one of those moments, because I just knew I knew he was conservative. I knew it. And, uh, and I was just, I cried. I was just so, like, shocked. And, um, I tweeted back at him like, you know, uh, please can we meet? And we did. You know, I flew out to Los Angeles, met with him, met with his wife. We went to Uganda. together. And it was, he was exactly what I was expecting in the same way that Trump is exactly who you think he is. Kanye West is exactly who you think he is. There's not a behind closed door

Trump and there's not a behind closed door Kanye West. And I, you know why I cried? I know why I cried because that door that people were understanding, Charlie not understanding why he needed to understand culture. Culture not understanding why I needed to understand politics. Kanye punched a punched a hole in that culture and politics. It was able to flow freely, the energy. And it needed to flow freely if there was going to be change. And suddenly people that had never looked up Candace Owens were looking up Candace Owens, right? And people who had never really listened to Kanye.

We're listening to Kanye. The contribution that Kanye West made to politics cannot be understated. And it got me so angry, the arrogance of some conservatives who went out and said, ignore him, he's crazy. Don't listen to him. And I said, this man just delivered you a gift. A gift. Here's the thing with, I mean, I never said anything about you for probably a year,

even during the Kanye stuff at the beginning of it, never said anything about you because I didn't know you and you were young into it. And you can dip your feet into it and then you can go off a path where all of a sudden you're like, oh, well, you're a fascist. You know what I mean? And so you just never know when somebody is really young, where they're going to grow, who their influences are. And the same thing with Kanye, I talked about,

I think this is great, but he might be crazy. He might be doing this for a publicity stunt, but he also might be real. And it turns out it was real. and that impact is fantastic, but we shouldn't put our, nobody should become a conservative because Kanye is a conservative. Of course not. You know what I mean?

Of course not. But the door that he opened that he said, and it was amazing because you watched him and it really even wasn't about any kind of principle other than who the hell are you to tell me what I can be. be. That was it. And this is what Republicans got so wrong, the ones that criticized him. They were trying to pretend like Kanye came in and said, I'm a Republican. People need to listen to it. He didn't. No. He just said, I can love whoever I want to love. I can be who I want to be. You can't tell me how I have a thing because of the color of my skin. What are you disagreeing with? Is Kanye crazy?

Absolutely. I can confirm Kanye West is crazy. There is, you have to be crazy to put your entire career and your entire family on the line to be who you are. Right? You have to be crazy. to be where he was and where he is in life in Prana Maga hat. You have to be out of your freaking mind, right? Kanye's crazy is his genius, right? His unwillingness throughout his entire career for people that didn't follow him, to never buckle to the mob.

It didn't start with politics, right? It started way before that. Kanye West, when he fell in love with someone, it was a stripper, stripper named Amber Rose, right? Everyone told him he was not allowed to date Amber Rose. It was inappropriate. You know, he loved her. That was it.

And then he turned her into a fashion icon, and now she's, you know, she's got a career herself, right? Kanye West was told he wasn't allowed to be a rapper. First, he was a producer. He used to produce for Jay-Z, right? And he said, I'm not only just going to be a rapper, I'm going to win a Grammy.

And then when he won the Grammy, he wore a sign that said, told you so, right? Kanye West was told he wasn't allowed to like Kim Kardashian, right, because she had a porn tape, all of this stuff, and he needed to marry a black woman. Kanye married her, right? Kanye's story, his entire story, is one of saying, this is how I feel,

and because you tell me I can't feel this, doesn't mean that I'm not going to feel it or do it. Which is exactly why someone like Kanye West would relate to someone like Donald Trump. Right. That's what he loved about him. Right. I've always thought if the Democrats were smart, they would say, you know, it will make us really angry. If you start pushing all kinds of welfare on to, we are walking.

Right. You know what I mean? You could tell him not to do something. Right. And it makes him want to do it. Right. More. And it's not necessarily also because that spirit, that is one thing that I think when he talked about Kanye called it drag energy.

But this is a similarity between Trump and Kanye and me because we're very different people, all three of us, our style, our approach, we're very different. But that energy, right? And it's not contrarian. It's not contrary. I don't just do because someone tells me not to. If I decide I want to do it and then someone, a million people tell me not to or that I can't do it, that's not going to suddenly make me buckle, right?

It almost makes me want to do it more to prove the point that my instincts were correct and to study more and to learn more. And Kanye has that, right? He didn't, you know, marry Kim to piss everybody off. He married him because he loved her, right? And because everyone in the hip-hop community didn't want her, wanted to reject her, didn't mean anything to him. He took Kanye, he couldn't get into fashion. He just made it, he's now a billionaire because of a sneaker. I mean, his story is one that is just absolutely incredible because he's always been successful because he's had the nerve to stand up to the mob.

that used to be called the American spirit. You know, you would be over in Europe and you couldn't do it because you didn't have the right position, the right name, the right connections, and you couldn't do it. Here in America, you could say, you know what, I want to do whatever it is I want to do. And you could do it. That was an American trait. Now, you know, what kills me is he was, everybody said he was a genius. And then he became crazy. Mm-hmm.

And there is very little difference. There's a very little difference. There's a very little difference. His genius is his crazy. His crazy is his genius. Yeah. And I can tell you that that Kanye is, he is one of the most fascinating people to be around. And it's, it's sad that people's legacies tend to settle after they die.

You know what I mean? And then they, oh, my God, you realize. But I've realized Kanye's greatest since listening to his album, following his story, just his lyrics. It really is about just having the nerve, having the American spirit. That's what all of it was. Imagine, hey, let's get on a boat and cross the ocean. It's going to take us months.

Half of us will die. When we get there, probably going to be met by Native Americans who, at least in Jamestown, we're not, we're not good, you know, they'll probably kill the rest of us. Let's go do that. Crazy. Crazy. And absolutely genius. Let's go to the moon in 10 years. Crazy. Yeah. And genius. Crazy people move the world forward. You know what I mean? And it's, it's, and why that also was important for me was because it also showed to me, and I say this all the time, but I was better able to assess why the

Republican Party was losing for so long with the black, with black, with black, America, right? There was this, the reaction to me, you know, when I arrived on the scene. It wasn't pretty, like, wasn't like I decided to be conservative and suddenly Republicans just like, yay, come, you know, join us. There were the purity test, but there was also what people never understood about me was that I am cultural. I am. I love culture and I love politics and people kind of, there was this pressure that you got to be just one, right? You got to just either be a person that wants to be taken very seriously and all about politics. Or you're the girl that can hang out with, Kanye West. And this is who I am. I'm a girl that's super intellectual, but I love culture. I pay attention to culture. And I communicate culturally to people.

And I think that that's what people gravitate towards. And it's what the Republicans have always missed since Ronald Reagan. Absolutely. And Trump, by the way. Cultural. Yeah. Let me talk about one other name, what the day was like when you realize. that your name was in the manifesto of the guy from New Zealand that killed 50 people.

Yeah. What was that day like? So I never actually talked about this. So I had just gotten engaged. And I was in London at the time. And I was really meeting my husband's parents and family for the first time. So it was already a very stressful, like, trip for me. And my fiance and I were sleeping in bed at about 3.30, 4 a.m.

My phone starts zinging like crazy. and like, you know, the Nick sort of jars you out of, you know, something's going on. I look at my phone. And Charlie's publicist had message me and said, you got to issue a statement ASAP. And I said, Groggy, I'm an issue statement for what? And he's like, the mosque shooting in New Zealand. I think he's like being funny. I'm like, what the hell would I, Candace Owens in America, have to issue a statement about the mosque shooting in New Zealand for?

So I go on Twitter and it's just explosive. It always explosive, but this was like all the journalists. like and Candace inspired a mass shooting. And the first thing I wrote was like, LOL, are you like, are you crazy? Like this is just, this is so crazy. You can't even think this is like I've, it was, it was too crazy to even try to understand the crazy, you know? And then it was, it was real suddenly.

You know, it was my name was being spoken about internationally. I had requests from the, everywhere, everywhere in America, MSNBC, CNN, everywhere in it from France to Asia. I mean, it was just completely crazy asking me to issue a statement. And I eventually did. And of course, said, you know, while I'm very sorry for this horrible tragedy to have happened, it is pointedly ridiculous to pretend that black conservatism in America is somehow influencing, you know, mosque.

It's just, I mean, like, you know, Islam and stuff. I don't even speak about Islam. It's just the, it was so crazy and ludicrous. But it was the first time that, you know, the next day I woke up and I had these spots all over my body. I didn't know what the heck was going on. So I went to dermatologist and he says to me, you know, have you been already stressed lately? Quite hilariously.

Yeah. I love that. You know, just a little bit, you know, being accused for killing people. So it was the first time I actually had a stress-induced physical reaction to something that had happened in it. And it really showed to me how serious a left was about taking me out, you know? Oh, yeah. Because they were willing to assign, to assign, to assign, credence to the words of a psychopathic maniac in New Zealand an effort to take me out,

you know, in an effort to cancel Candace. So, you know, in situations like that, you either you get stronger or you die and I got, you know, I got stronger. Let's talk a little bit about the media because I have, I've had my share of media trying to destroy you and they can do a really good job of it. How have you, how have you dealt with it? How much of it is? How much of it hits you?

It doesn't really anymore. It's really weird. And I think what happened, what I have gone through is the same thing that Trump has gone through and the same thing that Kanye went through, where the media can only try to kill you so many times, right? Before they're just, they're done. I mean, what else could you throw at me? You've accused me of killing people. I had nothing to do with.

you accuse me of being a self-hating black, you've accused me of being a Nazi, there's just not much left to throw at Candace Owens. And I think they know that, and that almost makes them hate me more, because nothing can, nothing can land anymore. And I, I am saved, by the way, I am fortunate, because the things that I went through with the media had another person gone through, like, for example, when they tried to pretend that I supported Hitler, right? Charlie Kirk would not have survived that, just because Charlie Kirk is white and he's male. I survived it only because it just doesn't stick the same when you start calling

black people Nazis, right? As hard as they tried and they tried really hard with that, it just didn't land the same. So in a weird way, I'm still here because I have a little bit of black privilege in that regard.

But yeah, now I just don't pay attention to them. It just doesn't, it's just not the same anymore because I just, I figured them out. And every time they write about me, the media created me. So there was a study out on New York Times readers

that when the New York Times came out and endorsed who was it? Budajaj, maybe and Klobuchar? Oh, it was Elizabeth Warren? It was Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar that the people who read the New York Times and read their opinion piece

there was a 5% change but it was toward Biden. Oh, that's so interesting. Those people made their recommendations, and those who read it actually changed their vote 5% away from what they did. And I wondered, is that just an odd ball sitting out there? Or is that a sign that even the New York Times readers are so sick and tired of being told what to do from these people in their ivory towers that if you recommend something, yeah, I probably don't. I'm probably going my own way. Yeah, I wonder about that.

I wonder about at the end of the day, did the media help or hurt me? Right? Helped you. They helped me. They helped you. At the end of the day, do the media help or hurt Trump? Helped him. They helped him.

They created him. They created him. They created. And in many ways, they created me. Because they just couldn't deal with the fact that there was a black conservative that was gaining a little bit of popularity. But when they started doing a tax on me, I mean, I had like 40,000 followers on Twitter, right? They created, they just, you know, because they hated me so much.

So in many ways, they can sometimes. they can throw gasoline on embers in that way. And so I owe part of why I'm here to the mainstream, the leftist mainstream media hating me. But do you think that they have so overplayed their hand that, I mean, I think they really think they can affect an election still. And I don't think they can. And it goes back to what I was saying to you about narcissism, right?

So you would think after the humiliating blow of what Trump did to them in 2016, right? humbled them. A little bit. A little bit. At least if you can't humble yourself, hire the marketing firm to come in and tell you how you should, they didn't pivot one damn strategy. They, they, they're, they quadrupled down. They didn't even double down.

They quadrupled down. We said half of America was racist. What if we call them all racist? Like, I mean, like, it's the exact same strategy of 2016 on steroids. Right. We're going to call them more names. We didn't call them racist enough, right? We didn't tell them to hate America.

I mean, I'm like, how. how can you be this arrogant? I mean, after a loss like that, you would just think, just someone on the campaign, someone at the DNC, right, would say, hey, guys, maybe let's not call every single person, half of America, or all these Trump supporters names. You can run a campaign without doing that. I think they've made it personal. And I think that, I mean, I lived in that world for a while. And if you, there comes a point to where you want it. And it's early on.

And you'll get a bite of fame, acceptance, cool kid, just on the edge of it, for us, just on the edge of it. Access, money, they'll give you anything because you're performing at the top of the game. Right. And the minute you go, this is kind of cool. You're dead if you don't get out. Right. because it doesn't stay, okay? You always have to top.

And so you will do, after a while, you'll make one little compromise, one little compromise. And before you know it, you're not that person anymore. Right. You know what? That's actually the story of Beto O'Rourke. Yes. Yes.

You just nailed that story. I mean, that is that his arc, I mean, he just went from like, he just was chasing that feeling of almost beating Ted Cruz and the crowd. And then by the end of it, he was like this weird rambling leftist. I was like, what are, I'm like, what do you, do you even believe that? You're from Texas. What do you, come on, man. Like, what are you saying?

And he just, he died by it. He died by it very quickly. He wanted it. He wanted it so bad. So bad. Just that little feeling of people cheering his name and he wanted it so bad. And I think that is why the press is so miserable. They want it.

This is Hollywood too. They want it. They got it. And it's empty. Right. And now someone is challenging that worldview. and none of them, they all look at each other. They're in it together.

And no, you know, it's one thing to say, maybe I'm wrong. But when you're surrounded by a shipload of people who are all saying, we're not wrong, they might question themselves, but when in a group, no one's going to say that because the ship is going down. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I was really the Hollywood ship is one to watch because it's sinking. It's sinking very slowly. We're at such an interesting time in this country.

Really, there's just so much I want to say. Everything's changing. The idolatry, the sin of idolatry, really, which is so funny because you just go back to the Bible, and you're like, yep, that was right too. My grandparents had a thing about idolizing people, and they used to say that I idolized Christina Aguilera, which I kind of did.

Whatever. Just raised home for TRL and be a genina bottle, whatever. And like, what was wrong with idolatry, though? And this is, you know, literally we're learning this lesson so much what's wrong with idolatry. And false gods. Hollywood are the demigod. They've been the false gods. And now government and politician for some of them has become their god.

Right. That's exactly right. So what's going to happen with Hollywood, I mean, even these things, these traces of like, you know, Taylor Swift, you know, trying to send everybody against Martha in Tennessee. Do you remember the Tennessee Senate race where Taylor Swift were. a whole diatribe saying that this woman, Marsha Blackburn. This woman is a sexist, massage did her Taylor Swift thing,

and she still won. Marsha still won, right? Which says something, because I'm telling you, even five years ago, anything Taylor Swift said was just, you know, it's what you do. And it ended up,

they could have said anything in the old days and wouldn't tarnish them. That's right. Now, you look at Taylor Swift entirely different. Totally differently. Totally differently. Totally.

And when you know what's funny, talk about somebody who's genius and always forward, who took the trophy from her, Kanye West all those years ago. I go back on that moment. America, we booed the wrong,

people booed the wrong person. Oh, that's right. It was yay new. Take it from her. Interrupt her, right? Oh my gosh. I completely forgot about that. I'm like, man,

man, Kanye really is a forward thinker there. Wow. And she was a sad puppy victim. And, but you know, and what was funny about that moment, by the way, to go back to that moment of him taking a trophy from her, he told the truth.

For those of us that follow culture, it was crazy that Taylor Swift on that award. It was so clear that the Grammy gods, whatever that just gave it to her to please a certain audience. He was right. Beyonce came out with a music video that was like, it was unbelievable. And they gave it to Taylor Swift,

who addressed as a princess because she had all of these eight-year-old fans and she literally played like Cinderella in a really cheesy, horrible music video. And he got killed because he told the truth. To me, when I think about that now in the retrospect, just so much could be said about this fight for us to tell the truth, right? And these people like Taylor Swift playing dress up, and you think they're the victim.

You think they're the victim, but they're not, you know? So it's just, it's an interesting moment to look back on, and there could be a whole book written about that. They really could. Three books. Three books that you read that changed your life. Oh, gosh. Okay, so for Black America, you have to, any time is soul, but race and intellectuals is a one that just completely, he just destroys it. You can never, ever, ever say it's because I'm Black after you read that. How the West was won by Rodney Stark. That one, just if you don't know why you should love America or why the West is the best, I would say that changed. And then I kind of want to pick one that has nothing to do with politics.

that I just, that, that totally shaped me. I don't know. Who would be the third book? I want to pick something apolitical. I have to think about it. Like something that just was so random that like totally, you know, like I was just like,

because I do, I read a lot of fiction too. I love fiction books too. Yeah. I can't think of one at the moment. That's coming to me. What's your favorite fiction? Kind of fiction or fiction? I really hate to say this.

Like, you know, because it's so brilliant, but I hate her so much, but you have to give credit to Harry Potter. It was just they're so well-written. They are. They are just so well written. And if you're like me and you're just like wildly imaginative, it's just that series was so great. One of my one of my favorite writers and it kills me because he calls me Satan's younger brother, Stephen King.

Right. Oh, yeah. My mother was obsessed with Stephen King. And I will say that about my mother. She was a, that was the gift that she gave me with love for books. Yeah. And he's just great. He's great.

He's a nightmare. Yeah. But, you know, there was a time. when we wouldn't, uh, we didn't care. Mm-hmm. We didn't care.

Mm-hmm. You know, I still don't care. I still, I mean, unless you're, you know, just despicable and, you know,

aiding the Communist Party and China rounding people up. Right. You know, um, I still don't care what your political view is. Right. Just,

you used to be able to be friends. It used to be friends. Now you can't. Yeah. And it, it's, it's, it's sad.

So what's on your radar now? Like what's a five-year goal for you? Everyone asks me this. And the reason why I can't have an answer to that is because if you had told me five years ago, I'd be sitting across from Glenbeck. Both of us conservative. Republicans, I would have been like,

you are smoking crack cocaine. Right. Right. So I can't say because I almost feel like I am on some crazy magic carpet ride and I don't know where it's like it's being led by somebody else. I don't know where it's going to end. But I can tell you where my focus is for first is just to wake up black America. I think black America is a linchpin for everything that we are trying to fight in America.

Everything the left does, it all ends from black America wakes up. And we can talk about radical feminism, which I am, as soon as I'm done with black America, I may do at the same time. I kind of try to kill them both. But I'm going after this radical feminist movement. And the reason why I say black America is a linchpin is because everything starts and ends when black people say no more. So think about any movement right now. It's crazy. Like I'm so outwardly spoken against the trans women. Don't even get me started. They call me like the transphobic. Give it to me. I know where this is going to end. That is one of the most dangerous things that's happening right now. Weakening men, turning men to women. It is an evil thing that's happening right now with a trans movement. If, you know, I happen to be a very religious person.

And if I were the prince of darkness and I was thinking, how do I destroy people? I would destroy their sexuality. I would destroy their gender. I would destroy their families. I would destroy absolutely everything that is the fundamental building block of who we are. And that's what's happening. Just the trans who it does that? like right by itself teaching people to mutilate themselves.

Oh, yeah. Can't give birth going down the line. Your family sort of story. I mean, there is no, you know, I remember 20 years ago saying it won't be long before we buy into this, this and this. And people said, you're out of your mind. And we've long past those things. And we're now at a place to where they destroy you if you,

if you will not accept and preach that men can have periods and babies. They're starting to put tampons in men's restrooms. The ACLU just fought for that. So you, what's happening to us is if I can get you to fall in line on something you know is absolutely untrue, everything else is easy. Right. Right. And here's the thing about that and what the left is doing and why I never, I will never play the game. There are even some concern about it.

It's like, oh, you know, if the person wants to be called this, I'll do that, I'll never do it. And here's why. If you met a person that was schizophrenic, right? And there are people that suffer from schizophrenia. And they believed in a certain reality. I actually have a stalker, and I had to get a restraining order of a person who suffers from schizophrenia.

And he believes that we're in a relationship. He believes every tweet that I have, he will interpret this conversation of me and you subliminally talking about him. And then he just sends me tons of emails about what happened, right? imagine a world where we would condone his reality. Why would we pretend to him that he actually is in relationship with me? No, we tell him he needs to get help, right? The left is now demanding that we all pretend, right, that we're crazy, that that's the right way.

Like if other people see themselves as this, right? If I see myself as Glenn Beck, then everyone in here need to start pretending that I'm Glenn Beck, right? You are wearing his jacket. I'm wearing his jacket, right? And that's it. And that's all it takes. And then if you say, no, you're not Glenn Beck.

you're the person that should be chastised. You're the person that should be run out of here. There's something wrong with you because you're a bigot because you don't accept that I think that I'm Glenn Beck. That's called playing the crazy game. And you cannot give up even a little bit of reality. You cannot play a little bit of the crazy game before it's all gone.

The slope is too slippery. The stakes are too high. So when I see a man, I don't care what he thinks he is, I acknowledge him to be a man. You know, when I see a woman and I don't care what she thinks she is, I acknowledge her to be a woman, right? Get well soon. I want you to get help.

I don't think people should be, you know, harmed because they're suffering from, from various disorders and diseases. But the left, what they're doing right now and trying to make things that are false, right, patently false to force us to accept it as reality. It is, it is so dangerous. I don't know why people don't understand political correctness. Just those two words are terrifying. you have to be correct with the political class. So who has power? What do they say is correct?

And that's all right for you to say. That's that's that's what had Galileo locked into a tower. He would not say what the political people say is true is true. They are they are politically. factually incorrect. Right. You know,

you can be politically correct all you want, but that leads to a flat earth. And how people don't see that, he's not politically correct. Good. So the definition or a synonym

for political correctness is lie. That's what it means. Political correct means lie, right? Be politically correct. Lie. Don't tell what you. You need to be politically correct.

Political correctness is a word for a lie. Right. And I won't, I won't lie. Right. So there's a difference between polite, right, and political correctness. And we, we associate too many, especially early on, associated being polite. We are polite people. We don't want to hurt people's feelings. We don't. I want to get along with everybody. Right. And, you know, so if that word makes you, okay, but then it gets to be crazy. Wait, what? You're now a big, beautiful butterfly and I have to call you a butterfly. Why you're, no. You know, it's funny because there's a story that my parents tell me when we lived in the, in that, when we were super poor and we were in this elevator going up to the 14th floor, which is where we lived. And I was, I think I was five years old where I was four. And they stepped in the elevator.

My mom and dad got the mail. And last second, a hand went in, you know, the elevator was about to close. And it was a guy. And he was really, really, really, really fat, like beyond, like clinically obese. I don't remember the story at all. My parents just tell me it. And instantly, my parents tightened up because, you know, kids, forget it, you know? forget it. So they knew and I was hitting my, my dad's leg and saying, you know, guys, guys,

guys pay attention. They were ignoring me. And I just said, look, he's so fat. Like, he's so, so fat, right? So the, the, what I'm telling that story is because children naturally have no political correctness. They are the most honest people in the entire world. And parents teach them to be polite. It is impolite, right? For me to be an elevator and tell a man that he's fat, right? but it is political correctness, which means a lie for me to look up with that man and say, you're skinny, right? That's the difference. And dangerous. That's dangerous, right? That's a totally different thing to be telling people that they need to now start, you know, playing the crazy game. So a lot of where my career is going is really focusing on a lot of what the left is doing

and correlating it to black America because I think everything starts an end to black America. If you tell a black mother that you've been calling her son Michael, Susan, all day at school, the whole calling kids letting the pick her dinner at school ends, ends when black moms sit up and say enough is enough, right? Any of the radical feminists up, as soon as black America says no to it, because what the left has done is they've used black America to be able to do everything. That's why they position it to black America first and foremost, right? get on our side about this, this is for you, right? We're trying to help Me Too movement. They said originally it was supposed to be about, you know, helping, helping black people.

Everything they do is about helping black people. Well, what happens when the victim say, no, thank you, right? Then you're looking at what it is, a bunch of rich, liberal, elitist, you know, white Democrats that are trying to control the entire world. So remove the victim class. I have a good friend who used to be an intern of mine, ended up being my assistant for a while. He went to Columbia University.

He was interning for me when he was in Columbia. He's a black guy. Smart, smart, smart, smart, smart. And I told him when he started interning, I said, do not tell them you intern for me. Don't. Don't. And he's like, oh, I'm not a stupid man.

I know that. And so he didn't say anything. His whole time, two years, never said anything to them. It was the last semester before he graduated. And he came in one day and he was just shaking mad. He was so mad. And the professor had decided to use the class time to ask the students to compare me to which dictator. Would it be Pol Pot?

Would it be Hitler? Would it be Mao? I mean, literally for an hour. And they discussed it. And he couldn't take it anymore. And he raised his hand. And he said, I said, oh, John, you didn't. And he said, oh, no, I knew exactly what to say that shut that conversation down.

And I said, what? And he said, I raised my hand. And he said, I think he's more like Martin Luther King. And the professor who was white didn't know what to do was like, okay. And they moved on. That's it. It's true. I mean, you just took it away. Yeah. That is the power that Black America has because we have been used as the victims. As soon as the victims say no more, what are you doing?

Then you just look like, you look crazy. You just look crazy. So that's really my focus. I think really, and I say you can save America if you save Black America first. That's why I believe that because the left has given so much power to Black America. All of its power. They're completely dependent on Black America. I'm going to end with this. I saw you speak. I've seen you speak on video before. From the beginning, I've watched you from afar.

The difference a year has made with you is remarkable. And I saw you speak, I think, in December of last year. And I sat out in the audience and I just watched you. And I think you are one of the most powerful speakers I've seen. And I honestly believe, and I'm not going to ask you anything about this, but I honestly believe if I were the left, you're Michelle Obama in spades. I mean, you were just every hand, you're Michelle Obama, you have that kind of power. You know culture, you're well-spoken, you're smart, you're likable. I can't wait to see what you do with the opportunities you've been dealt and the work that I know you're putting in.

You have a very, very long and bright future. I'm excited to see it. That's a really huge compliment coming from you. And, you know, just really, for me, it's just about I don't want to let people down. I don't want to let myself down. I don't want to let my grandparents down. and I every single day I just put in the work and I know I'm just at the beginning I mean you you've been doing this for a long time and you still have to learn oh my gosh read all the time that's the pressure we have to be smarter we have to be truer and we have to we have to work harder pleasure thank you so much just a reminder I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people