The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 78 | The NFL Legend Willing to Take a Hit for American Lives | Herschel Walker | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Episode Date: August 15, 2020

The world may know him as a Heisman Trophy-winning NFL star, MMA fighter, and all-around athlete. But the world’s got it wrong: Herschel Walker’s not an athlete. He’s a “competitor.” After growing up a “goofy little kid," a bully’s beatdown turned his life around in a single summer. He graduated valedictorian, gained fame in football, and was so competitive that he’d play Russian roulette just to challenge death. But after his anger led to a split personality diagnosis, he turned to God and realized “we all fall short of His glory." Herschel and Glenn discuss the anger that’s destroying our country, how we need real solutions instead of violence, and why Americans must stand up to preserve a free future for all American lives. This Week’s Sponsors:   Losing your hair is no fun. KEEPS offers the same doctor-recommended, FDA-approved hair loss treatment – but for about half the cost! And it’s all online and shipped directly to your door. Go to https://Keeps.com/save for 50% off your first order.   Go from dreaming to doing. Your bigger future starts today at Ashford University. There’s NO FEE to apply or standardized testing required to enroll. Go to http://Ashford.edu/BECK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the podcast. Today's guest is, I would say, a certified badass. And he's my neighbor. That is by way of the technical term. He is a fifth degree black belt in taekwondo, football star in college. He won the Heisman Award in the NFL. He played for the Dallas Cowboys, the Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, and the New York Giants. He has been an MMA fighter, track and field savant, an Olympic bobbyes. Sletter, a ballet dancer, a chef, a restaurateur, an author, a reality TV star, he does everything at the top. He's also an advocate for mental health, an advocate for physical health. He's sharing a story in this that is really phenomenal, a conversation you don't want to miss a second on. He's now co-chair on a presidential council, outspoken political voice when he doesn't have to. He's a man who has undergone an unimaginable journey and a friend.

Please welcome Herschel Walker. Herschel, how are you, man? I'm doing well. Is this good. This is my last day of COVID quarantine. The family had it. And so today's my last day. I can't believe I'm in my house and you're like four doors down and you're in your house. But good to see you. Yeah, good to see. I just cared to just walking over to your house and stayed in another room.

Yeah. So I have so many questions. You are a fascinating guy. I want you to know, first of all, I don't know anything about sports. And so I've got a couple of questions that I had my staff come up with. You know, if you have Herschel walk around, you got to talk about sports. I know nothing about it, but I know your name. You know, that says something to me.

a guy who's completely oblivious to sports, I know, I know that that's what people probably know you best for, but I don't think that begins to tell the story of you at all. You're a bobsledder. You're a wildly successful businessman as well. I mean, if you don't mind, I just kind of want to run through your life a little bit

and just kind of get a snapshot of you and how you did all of this. Well, you know, I think the problem I think people have with me is that they think that I am an athlete. And I said, guys, I didn't grow up, and this is honest truth. I didn't grow up watching sports. I didn't grow up wanting to be an athlete. And today I would still tell you, I think I'm a good competitor. I don't know whether you can say I'm an athlete, but I'm a very, very good competitor. I will compete on any level.

I don't care what it is. That may be the reason that I've had success at a lot of different areas because I think when you go out and work, you work hard. Like you're the best at what you do and you work at it. Yeah. It ain't like it just happens and that's where I tell people. Right. If I'm going to do something, I'm going to go work at it.

And I'm going to work as hard as anyone else and I'm going to get better at it. So let me start because I'm going to start because I'm going to tell people. I think there is something to the way you were bullied when you were a kid, the things that you have overcome in your life that I think may have led to this attitude of, I'm just going to be successful. I'm just going to overcome. Because you had a speech impediment and you were a fat kid, right? Yes. Yeah, my mom said I was big bone. I wasn't fat.

I was big bone. Right. But, you know, what's funny is, you know, I was raised in a church. And my mom would always tell me, because I remember when a doctor told my mom and my dad that I would never be anything. And this is coming from a doctor because as a little boy, like I was saying, I was overweight. I had these knots on my knees. I could barely a walk. And having a speech impediment, I was a goofy little kid.

and that doctor told my parents, you know, he's going to be okay, you know, just keeping comfortable. He'll be all right. And I remember getting in the car driving home. And my mom turned to me and she said, my nickname is Bo. And she said, Bo, don't worry about it because he is not the true doctor. And I don't know what she meant by that. And she said, you know, you're not going to use excuses in life. And I remember getting beat up. My last day of school in the eighth grade. I remember about. this kid by name Anthony and Logan. I still remember his name. I remember getting beat up by him. And all the kids started so fun and they laughed at me and I was crying and stuff and I remember getting home. And I still remember the voice had nothing's enough.

I said no one else ever beat me up again and no one would ever put me in the corner again because, you know, I had teachers that put me in a corner because I had a speech impediment. They thought I could never learn. So I went out on my own and started training. I went and started getting books out of the library and start reading.

My speech got a little bit better. I got bigger and I started feeling good about who I was. And I went back to school and almost with these blinders on that what kids was amazed about me is that I could run faster than anyone now. I can, and I was, I was, you all the valetory in my class and now people are amazed at this kid. Jeez. It was nothing. It changed almost overnight. But it was a whole summer.

But that's what you call dedication. And that's why I tell people today, and you know this. If you want something, you've got to dedicate yourself to go get it. That's what's sad about going on in this country today. People want something. They don't want to dedicate themselves to work to make it change. They think they can take it from someone. That's the reason I get so angry.

Because I know it takes work. You know, it takes work to go out to, you know, everybody want to be, I remember everybody, everybody want to be Stephen Curry. every kid in the inner city, every kid in America want to be Stephen Curry or Tiger Wood. And I said, guys, have y'all seen them when they were three years old? When that dad had them out there shooting a basket

or hitting a golf ball, this is just nothing over right. You know, these people have trained over and over again. And, you know, a prime example, you know, I've been in martial arts for almost 40-something years. I'm a fifth-degree black belt in Taekwondo. When I was in college, I used to fight in a martial arts tournament on Sundays after two. I will play Saturdays, go to church Sunday morning, and I fought in March arts tournament Sunday afternoon. Well, in my upper age, I'm not going to get how old I was.

I want to get into the MMA world. And people are like, no, you can't do it. I said, no, I can't do that. Well, I decided that I had this friend by the name of Scott. Coker who was running, at that time, he was running, uh, oh, gee, at strike thorns. Where he brought me to California. And he, uh, you know, and I'm a tacon d'a,

50-degree black belt tachando, and he matched me up with five different disciplines on MMA guys. And I did okay. I did okay. I'm not going to say I was great. I did okay. And he said, uh, Hersch, if you don't, if you'll dedicate yourself by going to a great gym, I'll get you a fight.

Well, for almost nine to ten months, I went out to San Jose, California, which a.k.a. And trained with some of the best fighters in the world. I got to get ready to fight for the world championship again. Daniel Forme, who's my wrestling coach, Kane Velastead, some of the best fighters in the world, for almost nine and a half months, almost six days a week, almost nine hours a day, and I got to fight. but I'm going to tell you right now, if I had not going to that camp, even though I was a fifth degree black belt and Ta-Ocundah would have gotten destroyed, and I said, you have to dedicate yourself if you want to be good. Now, if you don't want to be good, it's okay.

It's okay. If you want something you've never had, you have to do something you've never done. And a lot of times that's just working. I know a lot of people that, you know, would like this job or this, this life or that celebrities. No, you really don't because when you really look into it, there's too much work for people. There's just, you know, I've, right. I've been trying to paint and I've been taking lessons and I work, you know, in the middle of the night sometimes. I'll get up and I'll just work on my painting. it's not even a second job.

It's just a love, but I want to be good at it. And most people just aren't willing to sacrifice the time and the effort to really get good at something. No, and that's true. You know, I tell people this. You know, people laugh because I'm not a weight lifter. I never, I didn't lift weights. You know, I didn't grow up in an area that had a great weight program. And I remember my mom and dad telling me not to make excuses in life.

So I started doing thousands of pushups and sit-ups and all that. And people laugh like it's a joke. And I said, guys, my problem I got is I don't have 500 pounds of weights that I can go out and try to lift to compete against those guys that I'm going to have to compete against. But what I do have is I got a floor and I got a couple of trees that I can climb and do chin-ups on tree limbs. So when those people that have been lifting 500 pounds show up to compete against Herschel Walker, I'm going to know I will be your hunkaberry because I'm not going to lay down for anyone. And I will work my tail off to show them. And you know how to get here in Texas.

It gets 100 degrees. Well, do you know, I used to run with a full warm-up suit when there's 102 degrees out. And people use the laugh. He's crazy. I said, no, no, no. I got to play football next year. So I'm not going to be playing against your grandma. I'm not playing against your grandpa.

I'm going to be playing some of the best athletes in the world. And they don't like Herschel. And I said, I want to know. I don't like the people. And so that's the reason I work the way I work, but that's what you call dedication. But I tell people, some people, you don't have to do it. You know, it's like right now everybody wants to sit on the couch

and tell people what they need to do. Is that not funny? Everybody wants to sit on the couch and tell you how it's supposed to be. And I said, why don't you dedicate yourself? And then you can tell me how it's supposed to be like. Not to be mean, but sort of like, I didn't vote, but don't tell you how the president should be ran. Right. Right.

Hey, I didn't vote, but I'm mad. Vote. You got to vote and do something. Yeah. So, Herschel, do you think, I mean, you had severe difficulty with weight and your, you're, speech when you were young. Was it really over a summer? Just one summer

where you turned that around? It was. It was the summer from the eighth to the ninth grade. But, you know, then I've worked. I'm trying, I, that summer, you know, I tell people I was doing about 5,000 sit-up, 5,000

push-ups every day. And it may have been more because, you know, I love television. So I may have started like at 7 o'clock at night and during every commercial of a TV show, I would do push-ups. I do sit-up. And then in the mornings, I'm up where I'm climbing trees during chin-ups

on a tree land. And then I'm out when my father was a farmer, I'd get out and running this field. This is every day. Like seven days a week. I go to church Sunday morning. And then I go out in the afternoon when I'm out there working out. So

it wasn't that and I'm like, this is every day. And this what I tell people today. I worked out every day of my life now since I was 12 years old. I never miss a day. Workout and people say, your body got a rest. And I said, yeah, it may, but I'm fine. I'm healthy as a horse.

I feel good. And so I don't argue with people. You know, I just go about how I hurts your walker field. I will tell you that, have you ever met Tony Robbins? Yes, yes, I am. Yes. Okay. that guy is the same way.

He gets up, no matter what, every single day he goes into a plunge pool, I think, is like 55 degrees or 50 degrees, something like that cold. Very good. And he forces himself to do it. He never takes a day off because, as he told me, he said, I have to tell my body, I'm in charge of you. You're not in charge of me. That's exactly right. Right. There's something, there's really something to that. It is. And I tell people this. If you quit one time, you're going to quit the rest of your life.

When you have a workout and you say, okay, today I'm going to do like four miles and then I'm going to do an exercise bike, maybe 15 miles, and then I'm going to go out and maybe do something. If you don't finish, you're going to quit every day the rest of your life. And I said, I don't care if you have to walk to finish the four miles. I don't care if you have to go slower to finish the fight. At least finish the distance you say you're going to do. Because if you don't today, it's going to be easier to quit tomorrow. When you think of your future, you think of goals, where you want to be. Substitute dreams for goals.

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Do you think you would be the same person if you would not have had those difficulties? Do you think? No. I'm, yeah. Because I mean, I'm an alcoholic and I've had, you know, my... Yeah, it changes you. If you can conquer whatever it is, you are a stronger, better person. I am.

I tell people, you know, the kid that beat me up, I say, I love to see him today. And people say, oh, when you beat him up, I said, no, no, no, I probably thank him. I probably thank him because he didn't just beat me up. He woke me up. but you know later in life i had problems because of that because i didn't deal with it and the same thing as you were talking about you being an alcoholic you know sometimes you uh you you put those things to aside you don't deal with that problem but once you dealt with it and you've gone through it you understand it because you've been on that side now now you know how to be stronger

it makes you stronger i i again i don't know anything about sports so please i'm going to butcher story, but Michael Jordan, when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, shocking how he used that moment to call out all of the people who had done him wrong. And he was still kind, he was carrying that with him where, you know, I personally think a more enlightened person, and it shocks me that Michael Jordan was fueled on that anger. you would get to that point and you'd be like, you helped me because you said I couldn't do it, I thank you for saying that because I did do it.

You drove me. Well, you know, that's it's it. You know, when you say that, it brought tears in my eyes because, you know, in my life, I used my anger as my coping mechanism through athletics. And almost everything I ever done, I used it as my coping mechanism, but I put it back in the bike back here, and I went out and conquered everything.

Everything I ever competed in, I've won it. And I didn't deal with it. And then when I got out of sports, now it's being displayed in my house and on the streets, and people thought Herschel Walker was crazy. And I'm thinking, wait a minute, Herschel can't be crazy because why is I got a problem? It's not me. And I later come to find out it was me.

And that's why I used that, I said that, you know, that anger that I had helped me to overcome so much, but I didn't deal with it. You know, all that pain I had, I didn't deal with that pain. So I used that pain as my coping mechanism to overcome. And I said, so what I did, I ended up going to a hospital. People don't even know Hershey Walker went to a Behavior Health Hospital. You just call it crazy hospital back in the day, but you can't say that today because HR gets kind of managed. But I went to a behavior health hospital. And I went to this hospital, and I started thinking,

everybody in this hospital is crazy except for Russell Walker. Because, you know, I played football on all these awards. I was valetory in my class. I had a problem. And then it hit me that we all fall short of the glory of God. That was a young woman in there that was going through. What I was going through, I would die of noticing of having this associative identity disorder. And that's like a different personality.

Right. That used to be called, I think, schizophrenia or split personalities. It was like a civil. It was almost like a civil. That is crazy. And I'm thinking, they're crazy. I know I'm not civil because I've seen that TV show. And I'm thinking, I know I'm not that person. And as I look back over my life, Glenn, this is what to freak you out. I look back over my life. And I write and journal all the time. You know, I win a Heism trophy, NFL Russian title, NFL Fastest Man on Olympic team, all the great things I ever done. I journal all the time.

Well, all my journaling that I wrote was all sad. It was all anger. I never read this study. And it scared me to death. I never talked about joy, all I talked about the pain. And I said, you know, what's going on with me? Well, what was going on is I was angry all the time. So going to that, and that was a young lady that was being abused by her husband.

Her husband was beating on her. And when I first got into that hospital, she gave me a different name than who she walked. And when she trusts me, she gave me the right name and adopters her husband. It's because she was being abused and to protect herself. She became another person. Well, I didn't like that guy kids were picking on. I didn't like that guy kids were beating up. So remember, I became this incredible hub person.

that can do some amazing thing. I can run faster, jump or jump higher. I can do all these amazing things. So I didn't deal with all this pain. You know, some people may use alcohol. They may use drugs. Let me use it cutting or overeat it as a coping mechanism because they don't want to deal with all the stress in their life. Sure.

And that's why I went to this hospital. I realized that that's what was going on with me. But wait. But hang on just a second. But a split personality disorder, it is to protect you, your, core from the pain, if I understand it right. Yes. But it's, it's the way you're describing it is, um, a little confusing to me.

Because it, it, um, there's a lot of people, um, that have used pain to, you know, comedy is fueled by pain, et cetera, et cetera, but you, but you, but you had the disassociated, uh, personality, right? So, you didn't know you were doing these things, did you? Yeah, let me help you to understand it. Okay. Some people can deal with it and you never know it's any different. It's sort of like leaving home with the wrong hat on.

And this will help you to understand what I'm talking about. You know, I work with young men and women today in the military. We take out young men and women today from America, the greatest country in the world, where they may grow up in my little hometown like Wrightfield, Georgia. Well, they don't hear gunshots, bombs going on, all. all this crazy stuff that was happening. Well, all of a sudden, we take them and send them over to these terrible, terrible countries where every night, because I've been over there, where you hear bomb go off, you hear gunshots,

you hear all this stuff going. They're not on that. You have all these different smells. All this stuff is happening. And then you send them outside this wire. And this is what I want America to hear. You send them outside this wire into an area where they never know if they're coming back. They never know if their head going to be blown off.

but yet they go out and do their job. Then they come right within that wire where they say, but you hit a gunshot, you're all nervous. You don't know what you're going to do. Well, that person that leave inside that wire to go outside a wire may become someone else to survive. Because let me tell you, the average person can't take that. Some people can't handle that.

But some people can't. But the one that can't handle it doesn't mean they're crazy. They don't mean what they did. They became someone else so they could deal with. with that fear. They became someone else that they could deal with that fear. Sort of like,

this is what's going to freak you out. Do you know I'm afraid to speak? You're afraid to speak? Yeah. I am scared to death a crowd of people. And people know they look at me as one of the top

100, what, whatever, speakers in the country, but I'm scared to death and speak. I'm afraid of crowd. But I tell people this. I got a personality I was inside of me that can handle that.

And I tell people that's why I'm going to deal with it. I said, that's what happened. It's not that it just that I didn't like that fat little stuttering kid that was growing up. I didn't like him. Yeah, yeah. I didn't like him. So I became this hope. So I went out and conquered stuff.

I became this guy that become valetory in my class. I became this person. Go ahead. You had to, you at some point, you find yourself in the hospital, you have to deal with that and put it right. Otherwise, it will eventually destroy you, right? You're exactly right. I'm going to tell you something that's going to freak you out. People get nervous about it.

I said, you know, I'm going to tell you something that people don't know about hurt. I'm a Christian. I love my Lord Jesus Christ. I love Jesus. And that's the reason that today I speak, what I speak, I speak about it, about what I. going on in his country. People can dislike me. They can call me name. But my Lord Jesus Christ said, he without sin, cast a first stone. You know, how do you ask your fellow father to forgive you? If you can't forgive your fellow man. So my thing is, we all fall short of glory of God.

Well, what I had to do is deal with what was going on with me. I knew I'm not perfect. I used to take a gun. If people came to my house to compete against me, I was so screwed up Glenn. I wouldn't say screwed up because that personality wasn't screwed up, but he was lost. Yeah. I was so lost. I would take a gun, put a bullet in and spin it, put it in my head,

and pull the trick. Wouldn't even think about it. And people said, you were trying to commit suiciders. No, no, no. That's how competitive rehearsal walk around. I trained so hard. Wow. I train so hard that I don't think people train the way I train.

people don't go out in 110 degree weather and run five miles people don't do 5,000 pushups they don't go do all that they don't go out you know another prime example you know I competed in a superstar my very first year you know I was a pretty good athlete I remember 1986 I was a decent athlete and everyone had expected me to go into the finals and they have five 10 athletes on this side turn on the other side of and five from each side make the finals. Hershey Walker didn't make the final this first year because I was too arrogant.

I just knew I was going to do it. Well, I was so disgusted with myself. I flew home to Dallas, Texas from, I think we went to Bahamas. I flew home to Dallas, Texas. Two in the morning, I went out to the cowboy training camp and started training. I said, it never happened to Hurst again.

I think the next two years I was going to see the start. And I said, because people didn't work the way I would put in. Well, that's to how dedicated. out of the world. Well, I happen because I had an anger that can do that. But I had it. But you do, but hang on but you also, you do it now without that anger.

Oh, no, I do it now because let me tell you the reason I do it now. Yeah. I don't think everybody should get a baseball just because they lose. I don't believe in this. Everyone should be rewarded because I said there's some kid in Tuflo, Mississippi, that reading about Hirshal Walker.

And you remember that movie like Rocky and Rocket 3 when he fought Mr. T and Rocky was a champion. He was kissing these babies and Vegas just taking pitches and stuff. They cut away to Mr. T and he's hitting the bag and he's sweating and stuff because Mr. T really wanted to fight Rocket. And Rocky was now the champ. Well, I said, that's all people ever read about Hershey Walker. He said, I work out. It doesn't matter about my age. It doesn't matter about who I am.

They want to, they're getting ready to compete against me. Even my nephews and needs, they're getting ready. They want to compete against their uncle. Well, I'll be honest. I'm not going to let nobody just show me up on YouTube. It don't happen. I'm like, guys, I still can compete. So when you show up, I want to let you know I'm ready.

I'm not going to, like, just lay down. And that's why I say, guys, you know, I still do what I do because I can do it. You know, it's not like I can't. You know, people ask you can I play today? Well, probably. I can play just as well as some people. I'm not going to say I'm going to be like I was going to be. But I guarantee you, I can give a couple of plays.

I can do a couple of things today that can help a team. I can promise you that. You couldn't. I stepping in a cage. You couldn't play as well as Colin Kaepernick, though, right? Well, I guarantee I probably could. I think you could. People, let me say this.

You know, and I say this, and people get mad at me, and that's why I hate this culture we're in today. Calvin, you know, maybe he can play. Maybe he can play. I don't know. But he was not playing when he decided to kneel. And I said, guys, I didn't have a problem with him kneeling. My problem was that he was in a San Francisco 49ers uniform doing it on the job. you have a contract when you sign

and I think everybody's signed that there's certain things you can do on your job and you can't well when the people start saying oh yes you can do that freedom of speech yeah you do have freedom of speech but not on your job yeah you come on my job and start telling me what you want to do it's like we'll become this culture now

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when I was at Fox I would say things on my radio show which I owned, etc., etc. But when I was at Fox, I worked for Rupert Murdoch. That was his license. That was his company. And there were things that he would say, you know, please don't.

Now, I would never say the things that if, you know, somebody was telling me to say them. But as I said to, you know, the Murdox and Roger Ailes, look, I would. I work for you. So you can't tell me what to say, but if that's not what you want representing, you know, the company,

I'm your employee. It's not my right to come in and pee all over your room. You built this. And if I don't like it, I'll go find my own room. You know what I mean? And I don't, yeah, people don't understand that today. And that's why I want America to stand up. guys stand up for what's right you know stand up what's right i'm not telling you stand up for something

but what is right do you think do you think we i mean i just did a monologue today about i'm becoming more pissed off at the people of seattle than the rioters i am yeah no i am the leaders are where right where are the people of chicago standing up saying stop this right now. Right. And there's more people in Seattle that would say stop it and I don't want this than there are people that are doing it. You know, Muhammad, are you sure? You know, one of the great words Muhammad Ali said and I tell people I was, God, I'm not saying this, but you got to think of it like this. How many a hunter would go hunting if a rabbit could carry a gun? Think about it. How many people go hunting if a rabbit could carry a gun? If the people in Seattle

decided to say, God, I don't want this anymore. Y'all are going to stop this because we have a system and the leaders in Seattle. You got to go to that mayor, go to that government. Say, no, we don't want this. We won't law. You know, you got a right to do that. And you know what? Get them out of office.

Get them out of office because this is a country built on law. Then you could believe someone right now. And I was just joking to someone. I said, so is it a law not for black people today? can we do whatever we want to do and we get away with it? You know, can we do that today? And are all white people racist? Is this country nothing but evil?

I mean, it's... It's sad, and you know what I said about it? My mom said something, and I told people this, as, God, if you want to know answer to stuff, why don't we go to some of the older people that was around during those times? because, you know, I watched this young lady from Chicago talking about doing things and just for reparation and all that.

And I said, you weren't even around during that time. And then she said something about, you know, they have insurance. And I said, you know, I want to tell them, it may not have ride insurance. You know, I think about that. And then she also put her face out there so an insurance company she'll sue hers. So they got a pay, so that you cause an accident, they go out to you.

But my problem I got is you sit and, you sit and, listen to that and I want to say people do. Y'all not want to wake up. And, I want to say something, you know, I want to say something that probably have made a lot of people mad. Republican Party need to wake up. Amen.

It's time for them to fight. It's time for them to fight. Because I see the Democratic Party doing whatever they want to do. You know, if you say your name wrong, they want to send you to jail. If you are, get out of your seat, the wrong way of Jaywalk, they want to send you to jail. And the Republican Party there is now.

and we don't want to have a hearing. Oh, we're in here, God. You know, we've been having a hearings all our lives. Nothing to be done. Yeah, I know. I know. I said, guys, all need to wake up and start the fight. It's one of the things, you know, that I, at first, I didn't like about Donald Trump,

that he is, he is an agent of chaos. He lives in chaos. He thrives on chaos, you know. However, because of that, he may be uniquely equipped and maybe one of the only people, and maybe one of the only people that truly can navigate through that world and still say, I am afraid of you. I don't care what you do. The more you do it to me, the more I like it.

So keep going. I mean, it's, uh, you need leaders like that and it's not what he says and what he does. And that's what I keep telling me, you need leaders that's not afraid to step out there and do this. And I'm a, no, I'm going to say this. we're going to the grandpa and grandma

and what I mean by that is there's people in Washington and they got to forgive a person water there's people in Washington that been there forever that's the reason nothing has changed

you know they want to talk about changes nothing has changed because they've been there forever they won't change anything because this hasn't been just going on since Donald Trump administration

been in office all this stuff been going on been going on for a long time it just just happened yesterday He is the product of a system that has failed, and people tried to change it and tried to change it and tried to change it. And then they finally said, you know what?

I think he'll actually do it. So this was brought on by what he's done. That's what's so funny. I'm like, guys, giving credit to him. I'm not here to preach him, but I'm able to say, God, giving credit because this president has met with people that I, I can tell you right now a lot of other president would have never met with, and they've had a chance to do certain things that he's done that they didn't do. And this is for African-American, for his Latino American, for everyone.

They've had a chance to do it, and they didn't do it. They didn't have a chance to deal with this dealing or standing. Remember, Cameron Act started, what, two, three years ago? They had a chance because they have to hear about it. They did nothing. And now they want to say something about it now. And it's like, guys, you've had a chance to do this. And I tell you the worst thing that really made me angry is right at this point today.

We have a vote coming up. And just a couple of us, say, what, about a month and a half? Wait, no, it's like two months, three months or whatever. We have a vote coming up. We have our leaders in Washington want people to go into this voting booth angry because you won't give them money. They have no money. They have no food on their table.

they can barely keep a roof over their head. The government want to dictate how they live their life. You want them to go into this voting booth to vote on the most powerful man in the world who should represent us. And then you have people who are now standing up saying they want to represent us like a wolf and she's clothing. They don't want to debate.

They stay in the basement. They don't want to talk. But then yet they're a great person. When they've been in office, I'm not going to be all hate to be me. for a 50-something year. I want to know where you stand today. I want to know who you are.

Give the people an opportunity to know who you are without having anyone holding up a sign that you have to read. Because we're in a, you know, we fought a civil war one. We fought a civil war. And that's where we're at right now.

We want law and order or we don't. And you know, it's so funny, and I'm going to say this, because people said that Donald Trump came to offer. because if this is a society that people want with no law and order, Russell Walker and his family don't want to be in the United States of America anymore. If we don't want to go and order in this country no more, I don't want to be here anymore.

I do want to move. And I can guarantee you that there's no order I am moving. So the problem with that is, is because I feel the same way. If there is no law and order in America, there most likely won't be any law and order in the world. will just gobble things up. Russia will gobble things up. Where do you go? It's Reagan.

We are the last bastion. This is the Alamo. Well, that's what they want us to be. And that's why I said. That's what they want us to be. You look at what's going on today. And this was so funny. They don't want you to go to school no more.

You can't go to church. You can riot. You can protest because it's peaceful. But, you know, in a peaceful protest, 50-something cops are getting injured. but they can't fight back. So I'm like, I'm confused because they don't want to change anything right now. You know what, Glenn, I'll say something.

I probably shouldn't tell you there. Do you know right now I have something that can bring you into a building that would clean you from covert as you walk through this drama mess? As you walk through the door, it would kill any COVID on your body. EPA, FDA approved. When you leave, it will kill the virus as you leave this here product. Then I have something. You can go and spray down this product.

Do you know they don't want to talk about that? They don't want to hear about that. I will tell you, I'll tell you, Herschel, that, you know, the more investigation we've done, you know, we're over 150 days now into our 15-day flatten-the-curve experiment. and I look at it and I there is there's something more going on and it is teaching us to be controlled. It is teaching us that we're going to change everything and it's it's frightening, truly frightening. You're in the restaurant service industry. You provide supplies to restaurants, right? I sell chicken.

I'm in the protein business where I got into the food service business industry about 23 years ago. And I've been very fortunate to build a larger minorhood food company in the United States. I sell to Cisco, U.S. food, restaurants all over the country, hotels, casinos. God has blessed me. And one thing about it is I didn't get into the business and make money, not that I'm an idiot. but I thought if I know a man to job, I'd give himself work. And I thought

as long as the company paid for itself and I help people to work, that's one of my contribution I can do to America because I've been blessed. You know, I've come right before you talked about all the things I've had. Well, it can just come from Herschel walk. It came from my Lord Jesus Christ. And I'm supposed to

help other people. So I want to give them jobs, and I've been very fortunate to build another company as well through that. And to give people jobs. And even during this pandemic, I didn't lose one worker. I put protocols in place that I can help people out and we can stay working and keep people, you know, keep people happy. And that's what I've done. You know, it's been hard. It's hard. And that's why, you know, I tell people even that I say, God, we have an opportunity to help each other. Why are we not doing

it? You know, like I said, I love anyone's faith. You got to have a foundation. I'm not, I don't care what faith you go. You got to have a foundation that when you're full, you got to be able to land somewhere. And having that foundation is what you don't live in somewhere. And that's what I've been able to do. So tell me about the restaurants that you serve. How, what is the feeling of people through this COVID and being shut down?

And how are they, how are they making it? you know, it's very difficult. You know, it's very difficult. You know, and, you know, I think the people in Washington try to say, oh, you can do like open 50% or 40% up, and you really realize you can't make money, you put it like that. You really lose money.

You know, you got to pay electricity. You got to pay workers. You got to do jobs. And I don't know, I don't know who people in Washington think that's business people, but they're not. You can't make money doing like that. You're going to lose money. Right.

And I said, these people are, you know, they're struggling. That's struggling. You know, and, you know, I'm not going to, I am not going to name the company, but I'm confused why they can have some people open, but some people can't open, but some people can't open, like, it makes no sense. And, you know, some of the people that I service, hotel, you know, the hotel industry has really been hurt. It's been hurt really, really bad right now. And I, you know, and I pivoted out trying to find other ways to help in. And that's one of the things I talked about earlier, that I have stuff that I think can help them.

I have stuff that I can thank me to help schools. They had nothing to do with Hershey Walker, but it had to do what I can make a difference in this country. Well, in this, you know, and I pivoted out and try to do some retail. You know, most of I was doing food service. Food service is going to be your restaurants, the hotels, your casinos, you know, your QSR,

quick food restaurant. And my business now is kicking back up a little bit, but I'm still not 100% capacity. And, you know, I changed, you know, now instead of doing a lot of raw product, you can do pre-cooked, a far-cooked. And so you sort of pivot out and try to help them out over the way. Herschel, let me change the subject to your son.

If you don't mind and if you're uncomfortable, we don't have to talk about it. But because I know what, okay, because I know how I am with security and my family. But your son, I just saw a video of him talking about. Black Lives Matter and he had the facts down. I mean, he was really effective and very good. And then I watched a couple of other videos from him. And he's talking about how excited he is to be going to college at the university that he's going to, which is not conservative. And he's so excited about being there and going and he's excited about this experience.

and I thought, you are you, because you're outspoken and you're effective, I don't think it's going to be all that pleasant of a ride for him. No, it's not a better to rob me or him or a lot of my family. But, Glenn, I keep saying the truth is the truth. You know, he loved the Lord Jesus. And I told people this, you know, the black lives matter. I said, guys, you know, I understand black lives matter. American lives matter because my son and not just African-American, he's Italian. He's also part Spanish. Oh, yeah. And so American-lides matter. And I said, people can call me whatever

they want to call me. Your coon, you know, the word coon, and I said, people, let me just break you off something that you don't realize. A coon is one of the smartest animals out there. So that's a compliment that's a compliment that called me there. You know, call me another animal. That may not was good, but a Coon is a great name, but I go back to my son. I say, you know, I want him to finish school. And it's tough because he hear all this stuff and he wants to speak out. And I'm like, y'all, sometimes some things you should say, and he's dead if I don't say it hurts me to see what's going on in this country. You don't speak out.

And that's why I tell everyone, people, we have to speak out. right now our leader some of them that agree to let this lawlessness your own

is because the majority of the people are not speaking out because I can guarantee you 80% of the United States of America

don't like what's going on maybe even more and if we continue to hide in the closet when it do comes time to speak out it's going to be too late

we need to stop before it gets worse right now what's happening right It's not fair. And Christian, I was a Christian. You know, Ben, this was so funny.

Do people realize that this little boy graduated high school early. He started college as a sophomore. Speaks four different languages and writes him as well. He loved learning. He loves schools. He's got his fights all down. But I tell people, Herschel Walker and his family are months. I have white people in my family.

I have Italian people in my family. Spanish people in my family. I even have a Russian roommate in my family today. I have, we're all good bucks. Well, I'm going to tell the people in America is something that they may not know. God has taken American. He put white in. We put Afro-American.

He put Native American. He put all these different in this bowl. And he got mixed us up. And then what came out of America was so wonderful, so beautiful. It made the best thing in the whole United States, whole world, because it was

all us together. And I keep saying, God, tell me what you want. Instead of fighting, why don't people come up with solutions? You know, not to be mean, you know, Ms. Harris, Senator Harris, Vice President Biden,

the MS. These are they heard them talking about how this president, they don't have a solution. My thing is, do they have one? Because I'm heard, you know, they said, all I heard is these Monday night couch thought about it.

So I want to come up the solutions. You know, like if people kneeling in the NFL, kneeling in the NBA,

kneeling in major league baseball, and I even say a Hirschel Walker want to be on a board, let's see what you want, how we can change it. I would go to

Washington with you because, you know, we make, again, you know this, the amount of money these sports

makes, makes enough money that we can send someone to watch them to sort of help change their laws to put it where we want to get. It is upset with me that right now we become a society that you're forced to do certain things. You know, we had, and I'm not sure, and you got to help me out with this, we had a couple of

white leaders, they call it, black leaders, that wrote a letter to the vice president saying if you don't elect a person of color, we're not going to vote for you. We get off doing that. And then he comes out that he's going to have a woman. And I don't know what he said, a woman or color. And I'm like, so what about the people that you decided not to have? What about the best person for that job? What about the best person for that job?

Not just to get a vote because, to be honest with you, I think just to say that is a racist statement. Because you want to get in the vote. You know, I see you in these churches, not to be mean, but he has been in office forever. Has he decided one time to change anything in African-American community? Has they decided to change anything in African-American community? You know, I'm in Africa. I don't see me. And I said, guys, I'm not out here, Tadden, but I said, this president here that had been in office for three years.

And I'm not going to tell him to run down what he's done. But I said, do all the people at these historical black colleges even realize that he has, is one of the people that helped define the historic of black Congress. Do they even know that? Because sometimes, you know, the news media don't even put that out. They don't want to talk about that. And then I heard this, which is, now tell me, I don't understand this.

I heard Senator Harris talk about President Trump during her exception speech as vice president. She talked about him. But now all the news media. don't want President Trump to say anything about her because she's a warmer color as vice president. So you can't say nothing about it. Now you're going to be called a racist.

It's going to be called claims. But I think Biden hired her as it hired guns. Because now she's going to sling all the dirt at him, but don't say nothing about it because you're going to be going to be this here. Because I ask people this. Now, I'm confused. Now, I'm going to throw some knowledge. I'm going to confuse because did the American people tear her?

They didn't even want her because they didn't vote for her to even come up in the election. She ends up dropping out. So they said, no, I don't want you as the president. So we went through the process so are they now trying to get it back in through the back door? Don't fool me because it's sort of

like you're kissing on my leg telling me it's rain. Because I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying anything bad. I'm saying guys, think about it. That's all I'm saying. Think about this. We're becoming this country that everyone keeps fighting. We don't want to be because American people are afraid we call racist.

Well, I'm going to tell you from Persia Walker, just because you're standing up for justice and for something right don't mean you're racist. Is that problem in this country? Yes, it is. But the way you solve it is by we going to Washington, we moved some of the people in Washington out of there putting people in that's not going to open up to how this society has changed. Because I told someone this, I said, AOC or whatever. she said some, I totally disagree with it.

I'm like, wow, she said some really crazy stuff. But I respect her as a woman because her people voted her in. But that's what's great about America. They don't have to keep her there. They can get rid of her late on. So I don't have to agree with her. I said that that's what great about America. But when you're being told, this is the only way you've got to live,

this is the only way you've got to do, you've got to elect this person or I'm not going to vote. with you, that goes back into the, I'm a force you to do certain things. Well, I don't like that. Herschel. People shouldn't know. Herschel. You live in a nice neighborhood until the Becks rolled into town.

But you live in a nice neighborhood. You have. I was going to reverse that and say, you were living in an ice neighborhood until I got it. But you have, you have a great job. you have a great image, you have a great history, you've accomplished so much, you have a great family, your son is going out. You could lead in many ways,

and you could affect in positive ways, but you, you stand with the military, you stand with Donald Trump, that alone is costing you. And the police, yeah, that is costing you a great, deal there's a lot of flesh that is being paid for here um why why do what you're doing why can why now do you stand up and even go further and and and put everything in jeopardy why well i don't know

whether i'm putting in jeopardy but i got to be able to live with myself and what i mean by I've got to be able to live with the truth. Because how in the world could I live with myself if I'm alive? Remember, I went to a hospital for being faith. I went to a hospital for not being honest. What's honest right now is, you know, I was raised by, I was very fortunate raised by a mom and a dad. Some people don't have a mom or a dad or they may not have either.

And I said, you know, I was fortunate to being raised by them, but they taught me taking someone else stuff, is not right. Breaking the law is not right. That if you want to change something, Herschel, you change it to the system or you try to change the system. And I said, you know, they talk about it and maybe they need to help me with this word systemic racism. And I said, systemic means it is embedded as a norm. Well, embedded as a norm mean it's been happening for a long time. Well, we just finished with a black president that couldn't have happened 30 years ago. We have more African-American millionaires in the United States of America that couldn't have been

30 years ago. Can we change things? Yes, but you don't change it through violence. Violence is what happening when you start throwing this word racism out of that. You know, that's what you do. Did it hurt someone? Would you quiet them down by saying, oh, you're racist? You're racist. You know, you know, you ain't know what racism is. Racism is people harm. Racism with people

are burned. Racism with people are beaten the debt. You know, racism is gold bite to those days. That's not racist. That's disagreement.

There's somebody disagreed with you. That's what is disagreement because not to be mean, there's so many multiple culture people in this country today, you know,

it didn't anything. And that's what I'm saying. And I'm going to fight for my, right and I said, guys, and if I have to die, this is an honest truth. And Glenn, I'm going to say this. If I have to die, I'm willing to die because I said what is upsetting to me is for people to lie and to not want to do anything for these young people that are being killed. These are young kids are being killed. And when people say, oh, they don't matter. What matters is what the police

is do. No, what matters is these young people are being killed. What matters is, what matters. matter is there is black on black crime. Guys, let's talk about that. What hurts me is we can't even talk about it. So people want me to just go along with something faith. Well, God ain't going to let me into heaven if I'm faith because he ain't going to recognize me. And I said, I'm going to make, try to get equality. And I may not see it, but I want my son to get closer to sin. And if I'm going to be fake, I won't live here. And like I told you, I'll get up and I'll move. If I got to die for what I'm saying, because I'm not saying anything wrong.

I'm just saying I want everybody to be treated right. But I'm trying to work it through the way it's supposed to be worked. I'm not trying to do it. It's not trying to force it on the body. And I'm not trying to steal something. You know, it was wrong for those people to break into those people of neighborhood. And all of a sudden now they're going to be prosecuted because they're going to defend their own property. you have these local governors and mayor telling the police

stand down, don't do anything. While people throw bricks, throw all this stuff at there, oh, don't do anything. It's like, what are you doing? You know, is those city people going to stand up and say, no, we don't want this no more. You got to leave because I think what we need to do

is create American Lives Matter and stand in front of the police. And now we become a peaceful protest to protest against them. And then all of a sudden it becomes this civil war game. Because I'm confused why we have to keep putting up with it. And local government is just, they're okay. They're okay with people being killed.

They're okay with people dying. They're okay with people with business being destroyed. It's like, oh, that's what it's the cost of doing business. Well, it's not right. Well, I will tell you this, Herschel. It's good to have you as a neighbor. It's good to have you as a neighbor. I think you might have been the person that have coined the term of our house, the Beck compound.

That's what I guess it's known as around the neighborhood now. You and your family, if they come marching in, are welcome. We've got plenty of supplies and plenty of ways to protect ourselves. I stay with you in a day, Glenn. Yeah, likewise. I stand with any of my neighbors in this neighborhood any day. and I don't care what they believe in. They can be Democrat or Republican.

I would stand with them any day because right is right, wrong is wrong. And that's the way I believe. My parents taught me that. So let me ask you one sports question. And I had the producers go through and I got a list of sports questions. But I got time for one. And I want to tie it to kind of really who you are. It's about things that happen that don't make sense or just feel like a bad thing.

and then you look back on it and it actually shaped you. So I'd like some perspective on this. In 1989, you were in one of the most controversial trades in all of football. Everybody said trading you from the Cowboys to the Vikings insane, taking the star player, the best player and trading them away. But if that trade didn't happen, you might not have had the – Dallas Cowboy, you know, the three Super Bowls and the dynasty. What are your reflective thoughts on that now?

Well, you know, as I look right now, and even when I looked at that time, you know, I couldn't believe that they even trade me because, you know, I was the NFC Russian leader at that time. And but I said, I think Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did the right thing. And if you have read anything I ever said, I said if I own a team, I would have Jimmy Johnson to run that team for me. I respect him that much. And he traded me.

And I even like Jerry Jones as an owner. That's what people don't. I said, I like Jerry Jones as an owner. As long as I've been around, Mr. Jones, I've never seen him come down and try to run via coach and do all of that. He worried about his players. That is an honest truth. I went back and I played for him at my end. And I said, going to Minnesota was interesting.

I didn't know Minnesota while. I was like, hey, cold in Minnesota. Growing up in Georgia and then Dallas and then going to Minnesota must have been like you were in Alaska or the North Pole. Remember, I went to New York. Going to Minnesota was like, whoa. But let me tell you, that's one of the best place I ever lived in my life is Minnesota. And what's funny is that people got to know Herschel walk. And I told people, if I ever run for a president, I guarantee I can carry the state.

of Minnesota. The people got to know who are, we've got to know who I, and being honest, just like what I'm doing here. They knew I was going to tell you the truth. I'm not going to sit here and try to sugarcoat anything,

try to make myself look good. You know, I have faults. I have my fault, but I'm going to work at it. I try to change and make it better. And then I went to... Hang on just a second. How do you feel about what's happening

to the businesses and the people? I feel like these towns have just abandoned people. Yeah, and they're all moving. Go ahead. I'm going to blame the citizen of Minnesota, stand up to that state and local government. You know, you're banning people businesses. You abandon, they let people destroy the businesses

and the local official, you know, and you stand down. No, you don't stand down. You know, when all of a sudden, why do they have protection in? why are they not standing down? You know, all the local officials that don't want the police to stand down, what we need to do then is let's take all the money

that they have the security for them and let's now defund the security for all the local officials that want the police to stand down. Let's take all that. Because I said, that can add up. I said, God, this is terrible. It is absolutely terrible

because people work all their life. They have something destroyed. you know, that is awful. I wish Donald Trump would hire the former Chief of Police of Seattle. She was treated so horribly. She had the officer's respect. She seems like she wanted to be in there. She should be some liaison to some of these cities because they're not going to listen to him, unfortunately, but she's remarkable.

Well, I guarantee you she's none. get another job. I think she calls what she stood for and I think the officers respected her because she walked away for something that she thought was terrible. She walked away from it. Let me tell you what's funny.

When you want to win the Super Bowl, you don't disfund your team, you go out and buy better players. When you want to win the championship, you don't go out and say, I'm going to take money out of this team going by and buy them more players. And so where did they get off that? Okay,

to have a better police force, we're going to take money out of them. I'm confused. It makes no sense. No sense. No sense. Herschel, it is a pleasure to know you. It's a pleasure to be your neighbor. And to spend an hour with you is just, it's been real fun.

Thank you. Oh, thank you. And we're here. If you need supplies, we're here. We're here. See you all. doing all these crazy things all the time. I got to find new workout things.

You're doing the same old thing all the time, but I'm still doing it. Yeah. Yeah. God bless you. Herschel, thank you very much. Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend so it can be discovered by other people.