The Glenn Beck Program - Fill RBG’s Seat ASAP | Guests: John Ziegler & Carrie Severino | 9/21/20

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away late last week. As Trump prepares to nominate her successor, Glenn reviews just how liberal she was and why we must fill the seat. Attorney Thomas... W. King III joins with the latest on his fight against Pennsylvania’s lockdown orders. Mediaite senior columnist John Ziegler discusses RBG’s death and why the conservative argument against mask mandates is stronger than the media pretends. Nancy Pelosi doesn’t rule out impeaching Trump again. Glenn hears from callers about social justice hypocrisy and the Left’s attempts to de-emphasize the Alamo’s war story. Judicial Crisis Network president Carrie Severino gives her take on whether the GOP can confirm a new justice by the election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:50 And, uh... What? Yeah. The Supreme... Why hasn't... That happened Friday. You'd think somebody would have been talking about that. They should have mentioned this.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Almost should have been covered all weekend. All weekend long. So much so that you were like vomitous. When you hear somebody bringing it up on a Monday. Yes, she did die. And there is a lot going on. We are going to cover it all. Because I think...
Starting point is 00:02:15 I mean, I think a lot of people said, oh, good, another log for the fire. But some people react. even worse than that. Here's my favorite reaction from hearing the news of Ruth Bader Ginsburg dying. Holy F***! This is the Glenn Patti program. That's solid.
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Starting point is 00:05:10 take that for what it's worth. Okay, I think we just need to start with, first of all, the president finding out while being asked a question by the press, he comes right off of the stage from a rally
Starting point is 00:05:25 and they're playing. If you don't know this already, it wasn't something they added. But he comes right off the stage and everything, I mean, seeing it, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, what is he going to say? Everything that he said is exactly what you've ever wanted from Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Listen. walks up to the press. She just died? Wow. I didn't know that. I just, you're telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
Starting point is 00:06:06 She was an amazing woman, whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life. I'm actually sad to hear that. I have sad to hear that. Thank you very much. So absolutely true and fantastic. Now, I don't believe he didn't know because he had to, you know, he had to tell him to up the morphine just to push.
Starting point is 00:06:32 No, I'm kidding. But that is the way the president should have reacted. I think that's the way everybody reacted. I was out to dinner with a bunch of friends on Friday, and none of us were wearing masks. I mean, we wore a mask while we were standing up to come in and out, but then when we sat down, they said we could take our masks off, which made total sense. It's a COVID-free zone when you're sitting at a restaurant table.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, right, right, right, right. So anyway, we were at dinner. My first reaction was, oh, no. Oh, no. Not another log on the fire. This is a big, big log. This is the Uel log. This is the third log that Doc Brown put into the steam engine right before it went off the bridge.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, that's this is the last. log. This is number three. And so my reaction was that first. And then I told everybody at the table that she had just died. And everybody did the same thing. That's sad. Sorry to lose her. And especially at this time.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And it's not like we didn't like her rulings. No, I mean, look, she was a, you mourn for her family and the people who knew her and you know, I want people to live. I actually respect. all human life. So would want everyone to be alive. Doesn't seem to be the opinion of a lot of people these days. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But I will say, you know, as a Supreme Court justice, she was obviously terrible. Well, like I... Now what makes you say that. And she was on the wrong side of literally every single issue. Okay. Let me just say this. In an interview in 2012, she said that she wouldn't look to the U.S. Constitution if she were drafting a constitution in the year 2000.
Starting point is 00:08:19 12. She said, quote, I might look at the Constitution of South Africa. I mean, that was a deliberate attempt to have fundamental instrument of government that embraced human rights and have an independent judiciary. Really, I think it's a great piece of work that was done. So she wouldn't look to our constitution. She'd look to South Africa. Also, she called for the sex integration of prisons and reformatories so that conditions of imprisonment, security and housing could be equal. She said, if the grand design of such institutions is to prepare inmates to return to a community as persons equipped to benefit from and contribute to civil society, then perpetuation of a single-sex institution should be rejected. Okay, it's a little out there.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I mean, it might cause some problems, but she called for the sex integration of the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts because of the stereotypes of gender roles. She insisted on integrating college fraternity and sorority chapters, having college. social societies. She may have missed the point of the sex drive. You know, putting all these people to guess. She may have, anyway. She also cast constitutional doubt on the legality of mothers and fathers' day as separate holidays because mothers can be fathers and fathers can be mothers, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:42 She asserted the laws against bigamists, persons cohabitating with more than one woman and a woman cohabitating with a bigamist are unconstitutional. I agree with the way they're reading it now. I happen to agree with her on that one. She objected to laws against prostitution, prostitution, because prostitution as a consensual act between adults is within the zone of privacy protected by recent constitutional decisions. She's right about that, the way it's being interpreted now.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Well, thanks to her, right? She's a big reason it's being interpreted that way. Right. said that the concept of a husband, breadwinner, and wife homemaker must be eliminated from the code if it's to reflect an equality principle. She called for a comprehensive program of government-supported child care. She also wrote that the Man Act, listen to this, that publishes those who engage in interstate sex traffic of women and girls, the Man Act, that punishes those who engage in
Starting point is 00:10:47 interstate estate sex traffic of women and girls is offensive. Such acts should be considered within the zone of privacy. So she's not exactly. Not my favorite. She's not my favorite. She also found words offensive. And she said these words needed to go from all official documents. A man, woman, manmade, mankind, husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, son,
Starting point is 00:11:18 daughter, service. Longshoreman, postmaster, watchman, seamanship, and to man a vessel. I agree with all that except Longshoreman. Right. I have a strong disagreement on the Longshoreman. And I understand with your history. She even wanted he, she, him, his, and hers to be dropped down the memory hole. Had to be replaced by him, he, she, her, him, or his, hers.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Boy, she's out of date, huh? not only was she very pro-abortion. She was also on the record as opposing what was settled law that the Constitution does not compelled taxpayers to pay for abortions. She said fully funded abortions should be a constitutional right. Again, I might disagree with her here and there. Right. She also called for affirmative action hiring quotas for women using the police as an example.
Starting point is 00:12:13 She said affirmative action is called for. in this situation. So anyway, she's done a lot of things that you disagree with. However, today, today after her death, I think it's important to remember one of her really strong arguments. She said she couldn't imagine Donald Trump back in 2016 getting elected, you know, for the country. It could be four years for the court.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It could be, I don't even want to contemplate that. So she didn't really like Donald Trump at all. But she did come out in 2016 and make it very, very clear that the sitting president, even a lame duck president in the last months of his term had to fulfill his constitutional duty. And she made a very, very big point about this. now I have heard from AOC that her dying wish which we can't violate her dying wish is that Donald Trump does not nominate
Starting point is 00:13:21 somebody else didn't realize the Supreme Court was a make a wish foundation I did not realize that's how this work well they're taking her body to Disneyland right now she wanted to see that one last time and this was her final wish that was her make a wish this one's her final wish okay I was like really they're bring in a dizzy world? It's a weird. It's some strange like...
Starting point is 00:13:46 In 2020, you could be like, okay. I was like, wow. All right. She's laying in state in the magic castle. Okay. That's a screwed of this year as I totally bought that. And I'm the one on tranquilizers. Oh, man. Oh, golly.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Okay. So we got to get into some of the things that people have said in the past. and what they're saying. Now, let's just put it this way. Everybody's a hypocrite. Okay? Everyone on all sides. Everyone's a hypocrite today.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And it's, we're going to officially name that, Hypocrates Day. Well, it should, I was going to say, is it male hypocrites day? And then tomorrow should be female, or would that be constitutional? Can we separate them like that? I'm really not sure. All right.
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Starting point is 00:16:16 So, uh, I would be quite upset if Donald Trump did not nominate somebody right now. Like today. It is an absolute imperative. Obviously the Democrats would do the exact same thing. But regardless of whether they would or not, you are in office. The people elected Republicans to be in office.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And it is not only a thing that people are like, oh, well, this might help the base come out and vote for Republicans. Now, if they name a Supreme Court justice, if they can't get a Supreme Court justice through before Donald Trump leaves office if he were, let's say, even were to lose. It's a reason to ever consider, you may question whether you should ever consider voting
Starting point is 00:17:07 for a Republican again in your life. This is an absolute imperative. You have someone who's been on the Supreme Court almost admittedly fighting against the Constitution her entire time there. She wants that South African one to come in. Well, it was a really good one. It was a really good one.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Well thought out. Yeah, I mean, we always think that Iceland might have been better because they did it on Twitter. So, wait, let's do it that way. Right. You absolutely have to. This improvement is crucial. It's, you know, it's on the level as important as the presidency itself or the Senate itself. You have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You have to do it. And people are like, well, they made the opposite argument in 2016. Well, first of all, as you point out, the Democrats were also on the opposite side saying this standard, they now believe is codified in American tradition was the worst thing that it ever happened to humanity. Right. We have the tape. We'll play it for you.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It's on both sides, but it's ridiculous. And I'm sure we'll spend time today getting into the fact that there are some differences here that are notable and important. But it wouldn't matter if there were or not. They'd still say whatever they had to say. I would give you this one little note. And maybe we're the only people who will remember this. But both of us were on the air in 2016 saying, look, just.
Starting point is 00:18:24 vote on Merrick Garland and vote them down. Then you don't have to make this ridiculous. Well, that's only the last second. We're totally 10 months away from an election. Just let him vote. Just vote and vote it down. You have control of the Senate. Put them up for a vote.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Remember, at that point, they would have had to get 60 votes for Merrick Garland. When you have 50, they had 54 senators, I believe, at that point that were a Republican. They would need to get 60 total votes. So the odds of that happening are basically zero. Put them up. Vote them down. When they put up a new person.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Put them up, vote them down. Wait for the election and then you move on from there. Instead of doing that, they came up with this concoction, largely because they wanted to shield purple state senators in election races from having to take a tough vote. So they decided, well, what if we just kind of say, well, we shouldn't do it during an election year? And now here they are trying to kind of navigate their way
Starting point is 00:19:14 between 2016 Republican position and the 2020 Republican position. There are differences. They are notable. We can go through the stats. I mean, like, they have a decent argument here. But instead of just saying at the beginning, look, let's go ahead. Let's move ahead with this process as it's been done. And because we're Republicans, if you put up someone who is like leaning Republican or maybe a moderate, maybe we will say yes.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But instead, what they did is come up with a left of center nominee that everyone knew was a left of center nominee. And they could have just constantly voted them down. It would have been easy to do. that's why I'd like to see I'd like to see Mike Lee because Mike Lee is so liked in the Senate by everybody they like him he's really
Starting point is 00:20:00 soft spoken how are you going to say what are you going to say about Mike Lee we know there's no skeletons in the closet he's not somebody who's like you know was drinking in high school and and made it with a frog
Starting point is 00:20:14 even though the frog testified you know to the other frogs at the time but we can't find any of that testimony and the frog is dead I mean, we're not going to hear any stories. They will absolutely say that. They will. They will find anything and they will concoct anything.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And we know that. But you, you know, you have to go with somebody strong constitutionally. Otherwise, the president, I mean, if you put another person up there, we know that we've already lost. What's his name? The Supreme Court Justice. Roberts. Roberts. We already have lost Roberts.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Roberts. is gone. Robert, this is not a 5-3 court. This is a 4-4 court because Roberts is gone. He's not a conservative. He's gone. And a chance to take Ginsburg and have a real conservative in there because I don't think we've replaced Scalia. We didn't get a Scalia for a Scalia. You know what I mean? So we haven't replaced them. And if Donald Trump loses, it's imperative. It's imperative because Clarence Thomas is already hinting about retiring in the next four years. So you lose Clarence Thomas and you have somebody who's wishy-washy. We're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, Clarence Thomas, by the way, has been overruled by me on that. He cannot retire. Oh, no. I mean, he's got to do everything the Ginsburg did. I mean, she went out kicking and screaming. Oh. I mean, there was no. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:21:46 No. And, you know, look. I'm surprised until until decay set in that they weren't just like, no, she's right here. Look, and walking around like weekend at Bernice. Yeah. I mean, she did not want to go down. No. And I will say this, too.
Starting point is 00:22:01 People keep talking about like, well, they need to do this before the election. That to me is somewhat immaterial, whether they get it done before the election. It needs to be done before January 20th, 2021. I don't care. I will tell you. I think they should start it because look how bad they look. They have to start it. Look how bad they looked at Kavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I mean, when that thing was going on and they were pulling dirty tricks, I mean, they were apparent. They were apparent. You get somebody clean like Mike Lee. What are they going to say? What are they going to say? They're going to lie is what they're going to do. That's what they're going to do. And they will be very clear.
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Starting point is 00:24:12 We welcome to the program, Mr. Pat Gray. Woo! Yay! I think we have to start with the woman that was driving in her car and just heard that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had. passed away on Friday and broke it to Pat a little slower than that. Oh, sorry. I mean, he may not have heard the news.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You know that she was sick? Oh, no. She's dead. Oh, no. So here here is this woman's reaction in hearing the news. Holy fuck! That was inconsiderate. I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:09 She's blaming it on. You just can't die now. I love the fact, too, that she pointed out she was driving in a car. Because I wouldn't have noticed that. No. I would have had no idea. She was in a car right then.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Probably a good idea to not look at your notifications while you're driving a car too. Yeah. Did you worry about the people who are driving around her if she's driving with that much rage? Oh. He's like, she's going 160 miles an hour, too. She is pissed. She might hit your car and then come out and club you to death. Can you imagine what the reactions are going to be like if Donald Trump wins this election?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Oh. Can you imagine how many of those videos? are going to exist. My gosh. Can you imagine? They're going to go insane. Well, we don't have to wait for the election. Can you imagine what happens when he announces a nominee? Which he must do.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Which he has to do. He's going to do. And they've already vowed. They're going to burn down the entire thing if he does it. Wait a minute. Let me ask you this. Let me go back to a question I asked in about 2007, I think, maybe eight. Why don't we just split the nation up?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Seriously, because none of us, none of us, are any of us really into war? No. I don't want to kill my neighbors. I don't want to fight my neighbors. I just want to go. I just want to go on with my life. So why don't we just knock this crap out and just say,
Starting point is 00:26:29 okay, look, there's 50 states. You take 25, we'll take 25. And we'll even be magnanimous. This is what I said back in the day. We'll be magnanimous. We take Texas, but you can, then you can pick. And we'll do every other.
Starting point is 00:26:44 So, you know, we get Texas. Wait, so your magnanimous thing is you get the first round draft pick? Yeah, well, maybe they get the next 10. Okay, so Texas doesn't they get the next 10, then we'll go, we'll alternate until we'll take the last 10. Yeah, we'll take the last 10. And that's fine. I don't care what it is except we get Texas.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I don't care how you split the rest of the states. There are states that I want to live, but here's the thing. your states are going to be run so crappily, you're going to be in so much trouble within 10 years. We are building a wall around every single state. And you can fly in, you can visit us, but you can't move. It can't move. We can fly in just like anyone from a foreign nation can fly in.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Exactly right. You'll have a visa. You got to go home. Get a passport. You get a passport. But you can't, and I guarantee you within 10 years, you'll be trying to climb over our walls and you will be blaming us. for everything that's wrong in your state,
Starting point is 00:27:43 even if we have zero communication with each other, you will be blaming us for everything that's happening in your state. Just look at California for proof. Right. You know, we kind of, that situation already kind of exists there and everybody's leaving and coming here. Yeah. And no, thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But here's, but here's the thing. Seriously. Before we go to war, because I think, I mean, look at the reaction to that girl. Girl, are you going to take, for instance, they are now talking to their courts in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:28:20 and trying to get it, trying to get them to rule that mail-in ballots don't have to have a postmark by election night, that they can have the postmark on Friday. So you have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to get your ballot down and have it postmarked. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. There is a reason why we don't release anything and say what's going on because it might influence the way people vote. You know, no. You don't get to announce on television what's going on and then say, well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:02 There's some more voters out there. And they get a postmark after? No. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. And obviously inviting fraud. Why are you both trying to oppress the vote? Right.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Why this voter repression? But if that happens, are you going to accept the vote? If they say they can do that, are you going to accept that vote? I mean, it depends on, of course, the margin. And there's a lot of things. I mean, if Donald Trump can win the election without winning Pennsylvania. Right. So, I mean, like if he wins, most likely I think people would accept it because those
Starting point is 00:29:35 bail-in votes that came in late would probably favor Joe Biden. Yes. So there's a lot of different ways. If Joe Biden wins by 14 points, I don't think people are going to fight it. But if it's a closely contested election, which we kind of all expect that it will be, it's going to be hard to convince people it's legitimate.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And let's forget, or at least there's not questions about it. And let us not forget that every election of my adult life, at least, that Democrats have lost, they have said it was stolen for them. All of them. Every single election that has happened. Clinton? Oh, okay, okay. So they lost when they lost with George W. Bush.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Obviously, they said it. When they lost against John Kerry in 2004, they said it was stolen from the voting machines in Ohio, and people were leaving flyers all over the place saying to vote on the wrong day. Then obviously Clinton as well, every time they lose, they say it was stolen from them every time.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So they're going to say that if Trump wins again, because they do it in all circumstances. So this is why we can't have a 4-4 court. First of all, let's say, because I don't count John Roberts as a conservative anymore. So you have a 4-4 court. Can the vice president be the tiebreaker? No, it would go back to the lower courts in that circumstance. Oh, I've got a great deal of confidence in that.
Starting point is 00:30:59 It would revert to whatever was ruled. You can't do that. You have to have him appoint somebody. You have to. This is the stated intention of the left is to tear down the United States, the Constitution, and everything we believe in. You're going to just let this ride. And if Republicans can't get this done, they've already lost two. You can count Romney as a third.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Romney's going to be a weasel and he will, he'll vote against or whatever or not vote. He'll declare before anything. Nominate somebody right now. Nominate somebody right now. Yes, immediately. I mean, the second, you're ready to go. Which should be in the next couple days. Not just somebody.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Ted Cruz. Nominate Ted Cruz. Cruz, you think? Yeah, I think so. Mike Lee. I would love Mike Lee. Either one. No, I would go for either one, but Ted Cruz is going to be a much, a bigger lightning rod.
Starting point is 00:31:55 There's no chance. It's a man. Look at the genitals. Yeah, yeah. You're right. Amy Coney Barrett is the, should be fine. So, it's a rumored, a reported quote from a couple years ago where they were talking about Amy Coney-Barrant for the Kavanaugh seat.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And Trump reportedly said, I'm saving her for Ginsburg. So the rumor is that it's going to be her. She's the overwhelming favorite. She's got, you know, I mean, she's very highly regarded, not just by conservative crazy people, but by everybody who's honest about her credentials. She doesn't have a super long record, which some people are a little worried about on the conservative side. But what she does have a record is stellar.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So she seems like I mean he's Trump has basically already said it's going to be a woman And he's basically said that He hasn't guaranteed it But he's he's hinted to it strongly publicly So I would be very surprised if he went down I mean, check the genitals of all your Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:32:51 Justice is very important Mike Lee just started talking on a high voice Yeah Well he can identify I guess he changes identification Identify today as a woman Yeah there you go That would be a way to honor Justice Gilbert
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's exactly right For Mike Lee to identify as a woman and become the next Supreme Court Justice. I think that's absolutely great. So how is this going to shape up? Who are they going to be able to get 50 votes? The Republicans, can they get 50 votes? So look at some of the other names. You have Romney, which is a big one.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Now, I think Romney, theoretically, would vote for, let's say, a moderate. You know what I mean? If they came to the table and said, look, we have a uniting. nominee and it's not just some right winger. Right. Like this is so this is so where this is going to go, isn't it? They're going to not the Republicans are going to nominate Merrick Garland
Starting point is 00:33:44 at the end of this. You wait. That's what's going to happen. But I mean, I think that I and I wait, wait. If they lose the election and they can't get it through, it might be a good second throw. Because if you've lost already and you can't get any, you can't get over 50 with a conservative, do you go
Starting point is 00:34:00 to a, and again, Garland was not a Ginsburg. Garland was a like more of a Kagan, right? A left leaner, certainly would be against us on most things, but not nearly as bad as Ginsburg is. Right. Do you go, and also, by the way, not young. So would you go with, you kind of find a moderate nominee that's like 89 and just nominate them?
Starting point is 00:34:25 But you have the, that could be, that's if they were to lose the election. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not now. But you're going to lose, you've already lost Collins and Mercant. They both said no, on principle, no one. They won't vote for anyone. Now, would that change if you did, if you said Merrick Garland, maybe it would. Romney is going to be super squishy on this.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Now, people like, there's also people like Lindsay Graham in South Carolina who has said, he would never do this. Hold my words against me. I will never vote. Yeah, but he's come out. He folds like a cheap suit. He will say anything to any audience at any time for any advantage. That's Lindsay Graham.
Starting point is 00:35:00 We've already seen that happen 20,000 times. He'll do whatever he thinks is best for him. that day. He might even lead the charge. Yes, he might be, yes, the most passionate defender. So I don't think you'll lose him. Chuck Grassley is another one who said he wouldn't do it. I feel like you probably won't lose him either.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I think he'll probably come around. It's going to be close, though. You've already lost two, so you're down to 51. You can lose one more. I mean, Romney is a really good name. You'd be surprised to see Romney come out on the right side of this one. I mean, I have to say at this point, I would be surprised. But maybe he'll surprise us.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And are you going to find, you know, there's also people like Corey Gardner who are in the middle of a race where they're losing in Colorado, a blue state at this point. There's a lot of those senators who are in that sort of situation that if they come out and back an unpopular nominee in this moment that might hurt their reelection chances, if I'm Corey Gardner, I'm going to say to myself, well, I'm going to say to myself, how am I going to get birth control banned, first of all? Right. Because he still hasn't done that. We were told he was going to do that. But he's got to say to himself, I have a legacy here. if I actually care about conservative values, this is a huge moment.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You have Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the most liberal justice, perhaps we've ever seen in the history of the United States, and you have a chance to replace her with an actual conservative or even a moderate would be a massive improvement over this court right now. You have to do it. So does he do it this week?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Does he do it? Trump. Does he nominate somebody you mean? Yeah, I think so. 100% chance Donald Trump will nominate someone. The only thing is, is if they're worried about some vetting issue on a specific name
Starting point is 00:36:40 but Amy Coney Barrett for example is already just gone through this. He's already got the names. He already has a name. He's already been vetted, right? He's already announced them. Yeah. So, yes, pick and go. If it's Mike Lee, I guarantee Romney doesn't vote for him. Oh, guarantee it. Guarantee it. Let me tell you this too.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. I mean, you could, nominate Jesus or Margaret Sanger and they will make both of them in the Republicans, in the Democrats, They will make both of, they would argue either of those because it's a Donald Trump selection. Yeah. Yes. Margaret Sanger.
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Starting point is 00:38:50 Let's just go overseas. Boris Johnson's sister, Rachel Johnson, was on the, I don't know, BBC or something over the weekend on the Sunday shows, the chat shows. And she said, I can't believe I'm going to say this on national radio. It would be so unpopular. What she was, what she's about to talk about is they're closing all the bars and the restaurants in London and in England, just like we have here, and they're not opening them up.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And some people are starting to open them up with more than 50 people and they're, you know, getting fines and everything else. And she said, what if the government banned the sale of alcohol completely until we had a vaccine? Uh, at least in America, I think there's probably 50% of the nation saying alcohol is the only thing getting me through this. Yeah. definitely a bit a factor. Yeah, I don't think. She would be, that Boris drinks, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:39:50 He certainly looks like he's drunk all the time. He does. He does. Yeah, that would be a shocking development. Of course, like, you know, this is what they do, right? Everyone has to have their centralized government solution to every problem. Winston Churchill would not go for that. He was a huge drinker.
Starting point is 00:40:06 When he would come to the United States, we were in Prohibition. And he would come to the United States. and he actually had a doctor write a prescription that he kept in his wallet and said, this is Winston Churchill, member of parliament. I'm doctor so-and-so. He must have at least this much for lunch, this much for breakfast, this much for dinner. He drank all the time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 All the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't know that that's an actual doctor he got a prescription from. He doesn't see. You imagine a doctor's note and prohibition. I got to have it. Dr. Pepper.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't think that's a real doctor. He's a doctor. Don't make fun of him. He's a doctor. All right. More on the death of Justice Ginsburg, who we truly do mourn as a person. She was a great person, a great friend to Scalia. Yeah. And a great example of a human being.
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Starting point is 00:44:19 But we also are moving on forward. This election, I have a feeling, may be decided by the Supreme Court. That's why the left is fighting this so much. They want this nominee, or they want a time. Tide court, because it's not a 5-3 court. John Roberts is on the side of the liberals. We've seen it every single time. He is a liberal judge. He's not a conservative judge.
Starting point is 00:44:45 4-4. It would be tied in the Supreme Court. That would mean it would go back to a lower court, like a lower court maybe in Pennsylvania. We have somebody who just won in Pennsylvania, the attorney for the Pennsylvania counties that were fighting the COVID-19 lockdown. I'd like to hear how close that was. We have this happening now around the country where these lockdowns are being deemed unconstitutional. And what it means for the state and what the lower courts in Pennsylvania might mean for Pennsylvania and the rest of the country. All that begins in 60 seconds. This is the Glenn Beck program.
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Starting point is 00:46:57 Thomas King is the attorney in Pennsylvania that went into court. fighting the COVID-19 lockdown. We welcome into the program now. How are you, sir? Oh, I'm just fine. Thank you, Glenn. I'm honored to be here. Thank you. Congratulations on the win. Tell me about, tell me what you were fighting and how it went. We were fighting the governor of Pennsylvania and the Secretary of Health, like in a lot of places across the country, decided that it would be a great idea to lock down 13 million Pennsylvanians in their homes and to shut down half of our businesses, to put people out of work in order to to, on the guys that they were going to protect the public health. They also prohibited people from attending
Starting point is 00:47:53 rallies for 250 people or more or any sort of events, although our governor marched in a protest that had hundreds of people and our health secretary did a secret deal that came out in our case that allowed 20,000 people a day to go to a a car show in Carlisle, and they told President Trump he couldn't come to Gettysburg and accept the Republican nomination if he had more than 250 people. Wow. So what happened in the court case? We were in front of Judge William Stickman in the federal court in the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania. And Judge Stickman last week issued a wonderful
Starting point is 00:48:36 opinion and order, upholding the constitutional rights of Pennsylvanians, striking down their stay-at-home orders, their business closure orders, and their congregate number orders, allowing people to go watch their kids play high school football, have weddings, have political events. And so Pennsylvania, the yoke of the, the yoke of the governor and secretary of health were lifted by a federal court from our backs and shoulders in Pennsylvania last week. Are they going to argue and take it up to a higher court? Oh, they are. They've already said that they intend to appeal. Actually, we have until noon today to tell Judge Stickman why he should not stay the order.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And so after I get off this interview, we're going to be filing with Judge Stickman and telling him to stick to his guns and do not issue a stay. So we hope that we're successful. And Pennsylvania is they're breathing some breadth of freedom here today, Glenn. There's some frightening things happening in Pennsylvania now with the vote that is coming up. You're looking now, it's going in through your highest court on, they're trying to get this cleared through the court to be able to say, you don't need a postmark for your mail-in ballot until the Friday after the election.
Starting point is 00:50:06 There's no way people will. You think that they will rule against it? They already have, and it's worse than that. They've okayed putting in these collection bins, much of which is being funded by Mark Zuckerberg. $250 million was put into a very, small charity that he's now using to try to fund the blue cities and counties to put in these boxes and really to obviate what have been years and years of election along Pennsylvania. Our Supreme Court has already ruled that recently this past week, they've ruled that they're
Starting point is 00:50:50 going to be able to count ballots three days after the presidential election. And they're going to collect these things in bins, so there's not going to be any postmarks on most of these ballots. So it's really abominable. I look for almost instantaneous challenges. I suspect that the House of Representatives will file a challenge here and that will be in federal court, not in the state Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:51:17 where the Democrats hold a five to two majority in our state Supreme Court. Because this won't, this won't. Americans won't accept things like that. I mean, you know, the rest of the rest of the. rest of the country, Pennsylvanians might, but the rest of the country won't. If you didn't play by the rules and you can just throw things in even without a postmark, you know, three, up to three days after the election, who's going to believe that's real? Well, I don't believe it's real.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And I don't think, I don't think most Pennsylvanians think it's real. But it is certainly where we are today. And this so-called new normal, you know, when Judge Dickman said, there is no new normal under the Pennsylvania under the United States Constitution. There is no new normal. We have a constitution and that's what we have to abide by. It's bad news, Glenn. It's really bad news.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I don't think I don't think people are going to stand for it. Are good attorneys who are on the right? Are they volunteering their time to fight and to monitor and to be there to be able to file the other side? because we know the left has attorneys already assigned all over the country. Yeah, we have lots of legal power. We have just from our case, we've received literally dozens and dozens of offers and calls. And so we also know that in Pennsylvania, we have terrific lawyers representing the Republican Party and the people in this particular fight.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So I look forward to a real battle here over these recent pronouncements from the Supreme Court. All right. Let me just take you back one last question on Pennsylvania, the ruling that happened last week with you, where you got a judge to say these things are unconstitutional. You can't lock the people up like this for COVID. If the judge grants the stay, then that means it goes to the, the higher court, right? No.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Well, whether he grants, whether he grants a stay or not, it's going to go to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and the Virgin Islands. And so it'll go to that court, which is the court right below the U.S. Supreme Court. But what does he have to rule so you can start to open things up? He just has to deny the stay application. Deny the stay. Yeah, and that's today. Now, they can also file again for a stay in the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.
Starting point is 00:54:00 So we'll see what happens there as well. Okay. Thank you very much, Thomas. I appreciate it. Thomas King, attorney for the Pennsylvania counties that were fighting COVID-19. Reason why we need to have Donald Trump to nominate somebody really strong and the Republicans to actually do their job. Why you would vote for a Republican? if they can't get this done.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I mean, let's go over the, you know, let me take a quick break. And I want to go over the stats historically. What the Democrats said in 2016, where you had to do it, was wrong. And hear me out. Where they're saying, you know, this is historic precedent and you can't do it,
Starting point is 00:54:45 they're wrong. They were wrong both times. How can that be? Well, if you know history, you'll understand how that can be. And we'll go over that in 60 seconds. I don't generally enjoy, you know, jamming a pair of bowling balls into my ears and then rolling over while I'm trying to sleep on them. But that's what it feels like every time I put wireless earbuds in, especially Apple earbuds, they are, I think they are the most uncomfortable earphones.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think they are also, they fall out of your ear all the time. All the time. It's not just me, right? Well, they're just, yeah, you're right. And whenever you, if you're like, trying to, like, listen to something in bed or you're on the couch, it just, like, presses into your ear. It hurts.
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Starting point is 00:56:59 concentration I can muster up and this is the result and we've what we've heard so far is the result of that. Yes. Yes. Okay. I just want to make sure you weren't saying you were just starting to concentrate now. No. No.
Starting point is 00:57:12 No. This is as good as it's going to get today. It's going to be an interesting one. I threw my back out on Saturday and it's the thoracic part of my back. So it's the middle of my back, which I've never thrown out before. Have you ever done that? No, no. That's never happened to me before.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Oh my gosh. I mean, at least I'm mobile with this, but it feels like you. have broken ribs, it feels like, you know, when you were a kid and you'd always, you'd get the breath knocked out of you? And you'd be like, that's the way it feels. And that's not something I missed from childhood, you know? No? No.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I mean, didn't they used to happen a lot to you as a kid? You'd get the breath knocked out. You'd fall or something. You'd be like, you're constantly death-defying. Right. And it doesn't happen as an adult. I'm glad, but I'm wondering why. Well, we all design our lives.
Starting point is 00:58:05 to be pampered to a level that that does not occur. Right? Like when you're young, you're taking risks. You're running around. You're exercising. Now we put ourselves in our little automobiles. We drive around. That's how we move. You know, we come home. We get inside. It's air conditioned. You know, we come up with a nice little life here. Yeah. And most of it's designed to not give you the.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I can't breathe kind of feeling. Exactly. Yeah. Because that means exertion of some sort. Well, it didn't for me. Didn't for me. You just fell over everything. You were like chasing that last declare and fell over? No, I didn't even fall over. I just, I reached for a paintbrush. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 That was it. That was the last time I really put my back out bad. I reached for a pencil. You remember? I do. And, yeah, and the pencil incident, the great pencil incident of, what, 2011 happened. So you're a wreck is basically what you're saying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And we may need to appoint a new. Marshall Relapse. Right. Yeah, I might want to... You're in a Ginsberg-esque shape, honestly, at this point. Well, thank you for that. So, Ginsburg passed away. My favorite response, I've got to play this again.
Starting point is 00:59:17 My favorite response had to come on Friday as a woman, obviously on the East Coast was driving, or the West Coast was driving home because it was still sunlight. And she said, I just heard that Ginsburg died. Listen to this. Holy fucking. Could this year get any worse? The answer to that is, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yes, it really can. That's answered every day. Right. Yes, the answer's always yes. Okay, so now let's go through history a bit on why the Senate, why the Democrats were wrong in 2016 when they said, you have to nominate and let the system work. They were wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And yet now when they say, you can't let the system work, they're wrong again. This is not the partisan politics per se. This is not, I shouldn't say, this isn't history-breaking partisan politics. And correct me if I'm wrong on any of these numbers because I probably will be. In the history of America, 19, should you explain this?
Starting point is 01:00:45 You can't explain numbers on good days. You on drugs, you may come up with a sound that you think is a number. There were 19 little elves. There were more than numbers of justices. So there were in 19 times this has happened. And the 19 times that this has happened in the past where it has been a administration and a Senate. And they were and they were both by the same parties. Do you have me so far?
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. Both parties or the same party had the Senate and the president. and the administration. Yeah. And they were on their way out. 19 times that has happened. And out of those 19 times, 16 of those times. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I'm just going to write this down. 16 of the 19. Okay. Is that right? We're going to check your work here in a second. Okay. 16. Why am I doing this if it's wrong? 16 out of the 19 times, it went through.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Mm-hmm. And they got a nominee. Right. So when the parties were aligned, party presidency and Senate were aligned in an election year. They all, they made the nomination, by the way,
Starting point is 01:01:57 every time. Every time. No matter what the circumstance was, but 16 of the 19 went through when it was the same party. Okay. Okay. Now, when one party had the White House and the other party had the Senate,
Starting point is 01:02:11 there were 10 times that that has happened. Okay. Ten. And only two of them were successful. Two of them were successful. Let's check your work. with Ted Cruz. Let's listen.
Starting point is 01:02:24 If you look at history, if you actually look at what the precedent is, this has happened 29 times. 29 times. There has been a vacancy in a presidential election year. Now, presidents have made nominations all 29 times.
Starting point is 01:02:36 That's what presidents do. If there's a vacancy, they make a nomination. What is the Senate done? And there's a big difference in the Senate with whether the Senate is of the same party of the president or a different party of the president.
Starting point is 01:02:48 When the Senate has been of the same party of the president. A vacancy occurs in an election year. Of the 29 times, those are 19 of them. Of those 19, the Senate has confirmed those nominees 17 times. So if the parties are the same, the Senate confirms the nominee. When the parties are different, that's happened 10 times. Merrick Garland was one of them. Of those 10, the Senate has confirmed the nominees only twice. Wow. And there's a reason for that. It's not just simply your party, my party. The reason is it's a question of checks and balances. In order for a Supreme Court nomination to go forward, you have to have the president
Starting point is 01:03:25 and the Senate. In this instance, the American people voted. They elected Donald Trump. A big part of the reason they elected Donald Trump is because of the Scalia vacancy and they wanted principled constitutionalist on the court. And a big part of the reason why we have a Republican majority elected in 2014, re-elected in 2016, grown even larger in 2018. A major issue in each of those elections as the American people voted and said, we want constitutionalist judges. And so the president was elected to do this and the Senate was elected to confirm this nomination. It's a pretty good case. And by the way, you said, the only difference you had was it was 16 of the 19 you said. It was 17 of the 19, according to Cruz. Pretty good, though, by you. I got to say,
Starting point is 01:04:07 thank you very much. Maybe the drugs are improving your show. So, so, so they were wrong on both both times. They're wrong this time, saying that he can't do it. That's, it's a horrible president. No. It happens all the time. It happens all the time. And anybody who says, you know, Donald Trump shouldn't or couldn't get somebody through 17 out of the 19 times where they've had the
Starting point is 01:04:30 Senate and the Senate and the presidency, it has worked. Yeah. Out of 19, 17 times. Pretty convincing case that there's a difference here. However, I mean, that's not necessarily the way they always argued it in 2016. There's plenty of clips that would show them as being hypocrites.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Well, let's Let's just do this. I think the most important thing is Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, you've got to put on a skirt. Start wearing a skirt today. Because you need to say that you're transitioning to be a woman because that's what's coming. American financing NMLS 1-8-2334.
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Starting point is 01:06:22 Get access to this show and Studez America back with new episodes tonight. All right. We have one of the most unpredictable guests, which is why I find him fascinating, John Ziegler on with us. I read an article from him last week about the conservative argument against mask mandates is stronger than the media pretends. And I had to read it. And it is, it's the best thought out.
Starting point is 01:06:55 answer on why we're all saying, why is it Republicans are not wearing it and Democrats are, and we even on this, we're divided. Welcome to the program, John. Glenn, I always go ahead to talk to you. Good to talk to you. Any first, any thoughts on the passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and what should happen? Sure. As you know, I'm being unpredictable. I have been in the never Trump category for a very long time, but I have to say I'm rather appalled by people like the Lincoln Project
Starting point is 01:07:28 who claim to be conservatives who, let's be clear now, in the last few months we've learned, they're in favor of mask mandates, endless government lockdowns, BLM riots, big tens, big tech censorship, 100% Democratic control of everything,
Starting point is 01:07:45 Kamala Harris being a future president, but they're now against conservatives being named to the Supreme Court. We're living bizarre a world time. We really are. And so, you know, emotionally, as a libertarian conservative, I would love to see the Ginsburg seat somehow go to a non-Lunitick and into a conservative. I have to say, though, Glenn, if Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump were able to pull this off, I will be exceedingly impressed. I think this is going to be a very uphill battle because
Starting point is 01:08:22 politically, what's interesting is, do they have enough time to do this before the election? And then after election, obviously, if Trump loses all of the dynamics change, and I don't know that they'll be able to make it happen. However, having lost chess battles in real life to Mitch McConnell during my days in Louisville, Kentucky, I would never want to play chess against Mitch McConnell ever again. If there's somebody that can do this, it's him. but this will really test all of his faculties to be able to pull this off. So philosophically, I would love to see it.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I just, you know, as you know, I'm a pessimist by nature, and I think it'll be very difficult to do. I mean, with an exception of Romney, we've already lost two, but we knew those two Republicans were going to fold. I think Romney's going to fold, so they can afford to lose one more, and then they would have 50 votes. But can they hold that? that together? Can
Starting point is 01:09:20 can they hold that together for a good conservative judge? Well, but also there's a time factor and that's why I find it fascinating for the election. You think there's enough time before the election? Sure there is. Sure there is. Sure there is. Really? Okay. I mean, he already has
Starting point is 01:09:36 the list of people. He should announce it today or tomorrow and let's get going. I mean, what do you need? What do you need? Well, I think there's going to, I think the problem there is, and you know the Senate and being this, this club, basically. You might lose a couple of people under the, we're rushing this through right before an election situation. Yeah, because the republic's at stake. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Look, I'm with, Glenn, I'm with you on this one, right? So, but I'm just, I'm looking at this realistically and what a bunch of whims Republicans tend to be. Yeah. Especially this close to an election. I'll be impressed if it happened. Yeah, I'm looking at that way. All right, so go through your argument on why the conservative argument against mass mandates is stronger than the media pretends. Well, I've said from the beginning of this whole saga, this crisis, this fiasco, whatever, and I think all those words are accurate to describe this. I wrote very early on that the media was only going to tell one side of this story because there's unique aspects to this story that facilitate only one side being told. If no other reason, then the fact that
Starting point is 01:10:41 if you're on the other side, you're perceived as pro-death, right? So nobody wants to be perceived is pro-death. And the agenda and the media in this situation is obvious. It's extraordinary. Trump plays a big role in that. And I think that mask mandates are a perfect example of where only one side of this story is being told. I'm a libertarian by nature. I find it abhorrent that the government would have to be able to tell me with penalties attached to it that I have to wear a mask, even in situations where I'm not even endangering anybody. And that there's no end. There's no end date to this. Because once you start doing this, when do you possibly ever end it? I don't think will ever be an end date. I mean, my gosh, if we're doing this now, why wouldn't we do this during
Starting point is 01:11:27 every flu season if it works? But to me, the biggest issue, Glenn, is the burden of proof here for whether or not this is justified ought to be very high. And it has not been reached at all. I look every single day at the stats like a lot of people do. And I can't find any real world evidence that these mask mandates actually work. The only theories or studies that indicate that they do are totally theoretical based upon the projections of the people who are making them, which is absurd. I mean, it's like if you're coaching an NFL football team and you said, you know, we're terrible, we're going to go 0 and 16 this year.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And then you're, you know, through the season, you end up going 8 and 8, which is mediocre. And you claim, well, I say, well, I'm sorry. Dave does eight losses this year. I mean, that's not the way it works. In the real world, when you look at the actual stats, there's no place that I can find in America or even around the world where you can point to and say, wow, we put in mask mandates and all of a sudden cases, hospitalizations and death, you know, gradually went down and stayed down.
Starting point is 01:12:35 In fact, it's very much been the opposite. It's almost like if we invented birth control and in 11 months, we had a massive spike in births. I mean, that's basically what's happened all over the world. And yet no one wants to accept it. And here's the, to me, Glenn, this is the part that no one's getting. And this is the really dangerous part for America. Because what I believe the mask has become is effectively a cover-up for how the experts
Starting point is 01:13:03 thing up from the beginning, they were almost entirely wrong, and they're going to use masks to effectively cover that up. and they're going to claim that it's the mask, that is the only thing that is holding us together, why we haven't completely burned down, why their projections were wrong, when in fact, one, the virus isn't nearly as bad as we were told, two, herd immunity, or as Trump calls it, herd mentality,
Starting point is 01:13:32 is far easier to be attained than they told us, which, if true, if that turns out to be true, will be the most catastrophic, most impactful, scientific mistake in the modern era, which they will not be able to admit to. So instead, it will be claimed that masks are the reason. This is the Biden theory of now having a federal mask mandate, which is going to cause all sorts of other problems,
Starting point is 01:13:56 if he, in fact, does this, which I think he would if elected. And what we're going to end up having here is a game of pretend. We're going to be pretending that the virus is at a very low level and fading away because of masks. In reality, it's because it was never as bad as expected and because we have developed at least some semblance of herd immunity, and this is why to me the mask situation is so incredibly dangerous for the future of America, because if we accept that, Glenn, stick a fork in us,
Starting point is 01:14:27 they can do anything they want to us. So tell me what, I mean, because I know you went down to your, I think it was your city council, and you were quite vocal about the mask mandate. Oh, you saw that, huh? Oh, I think everybody, yeah. People around the world, I think, saw it. That was quite remarkable. But you were, you know, you were animated and you made your case.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And why are these people doing this then? Do they, are they just ignorant? Do they have another plan? Why is this happening? Well, as you know, I'm not a doctor, but I could teach a PhD course in media narratives. Right. And this is a classic situation. So how did this happen?
Starting point is 01:15:08 And how this happened, I think, is a very key question. to understanding the whole thing. One of my great mysteries about this is, why is it that the mask Nazis are not furious at Dr. Fauci and the CDC and the surgeon general
Starting point is 01:15:25 who all at the beginning of this downplayed mask, said we don't need to wear them back in March and April and when we really did, if they work, my gosh, you know, we really did need them. I mean, thousands of thousands of people, especially in New York area,
Starting point is 01:15:39 died, I guess, that the masks are so effective because Fauci and others were against them. They were against them because the science never indicated that they were needed, that they were effective, a situation that was going to actually do any good. What changed? What changed were two things. Americans got incredibly fearful and like children, afraid of a monster under their bed, they needed a security blanket. They needed the illusion of control. And so it made them feel good. And when you combine that with the fact that the mask became a virtue signal of people's opposition to Trump. And let's be clear, that's what happened on the left. The mask became a virtue signal of opposition to Trump.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And you combine that with the fear factor, something happened that no one ever expected, that a freedom-loving country like America would have a massive majority of people in favor of being forced to wear masks. No one thought that was possible. But once it becomes incredibly popular, an expert like Dr. Fauci and others has no choice but to go along because if they don't go along, they lose their fan base, which is very important, Dr. Fauci, and they lose their status as the expert. So they switch their position 180 degrees, but somehow they don't get any blowback for having been wrong at the beginning. And that was the source of my outrage at our county supervisors, because our health director has been wrong, even more than Fauci has been from the beginning of all this, was actually against mask mandates,
Starting point is 01:17:07 until he suddenly switched and decided they were most important thing in the world three months into this. Why? Because it was politically now the popular thing to do. And that's why it's not valid. And now we're pretending. We're pretending as if, you know, it's really become a religion. It's really a religious situation where you must pay homage to the virus at every moment by allowing the government to force you to wear a mask for which there is no hard evidence. It's actually effective. And in reality, what you're doing is you're creating a couple. story for how the experts blew it in the biggest most catastrophic way, possibly imaginable. John, I'm so fascinated by the process here that's been used because, as you point out, the standard for a mandate should be incredibly high, right, scientifically.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And what it seems to be is that if there is any hope or any sign of any benefit whatsoever, then we will put in a new mandate. And I would add on to that that it's not just a mandate, like it's not like they're passing laws here, right? There's no laws being passed. It's just governors and officials mandating kind of out of thin air that you have to do these things. So we're getting all of these new standards put on it. And I hate the government mandate part of this. And they're doing this without any process. No legislative process is occurring in almost any of these areas. It's a really dangerous precedent. Thank you for pointing that out. Yeah, because we've
Starting point is 01:18:32 completely abandoned our entire process of governance. We're now. living essentially in a monarchy, especially here in California. We're absolutely living in a monarchy. King Gavin Newsom is our monarch here. And there's no process. But let's take this a step further to the Biden federal mask mandate idea, which unfortunately, I am very, I find, guys, I found myself in the bizarre situation of actually rooting for Trump at times in the last few months.
Starting point is 01:18:57 I know. I know. Very strange. I know. But I care more about my country than I do about, you know, being perceived as anti-Trump. I would throw that away at a minute to save my country. And so I'm very concerned about this Biden thing. I don't think the Trump campaign is attacking the Biden mask mandate properly.
Starting point is 01:19:19 They're claiming – they're attacking this. He's flip-flopping on this. That's not the way to go after this. The way to go out to this is, first of all, it doesn't have the authority. Second of all, it's not needed. Third of all, think about the massive confusion, chaos and division. It will so, especially if the virus is as under control, I believe it will be. by late January of 21,
Starting point is 01:19:38 having nothing to do with masks, that he then declares that federally, federally, we are all mandated, even though we can't enforce it, we admit that we're all federally mandated to wear a mask. If you're in a state, like a red state,
Starting point is 01:19:51 that doesn't have a mask mandate, who's in charge? What's the law? What's the rule? I mean, there's going to be morning events in restaurants, businesses, it's going to be a civil war.
Starting point is 01:20:07 He's going to, for no end, to know, actual effective end all so that he can virtue signal to his base that he's pro-mast. That's the way you attack this. That's the only reason why we asked that question is because we knew finally we could get John to start just going off. And now his blood is pumping and he'll be up all day.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Even though he got up early for us in Los Angeles. Thank you so much, John Ziegler. You can find him at free speech. Is it free speech broadcasting.com? free speech broadcasting.com. All right. Our sponsor this half hour is Rough Greens. If you own a dog and you've had the joy of rough greens, hit your dog, it's the best,
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Starting point is 01:21:56 I made it absolutely clear that I would go forward with the confirmation process as chairman, even a few months before presidential election. If the nominee were chosen with the advice and not merely the consent of the Senate. Okay, so you got that. Just does the Constitution require. Oh, yes, it does. It does require that. Now, here's how they're responding to this. Here's Nancy Pelosi on ABC News.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Some have mentioned the possibility if they try to push through a nominee in a lame duck session that you in the House could move to impeach President Trump or Attorney General Barr as a way of stalling and preventing the Senate from acting on this nomination. Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver that I'm not about to discuss right now. Those arrows include packing the court that if Joe Biden would win, they would pack the court. They're admitting it. They're calling for it. They're saying they're going to do it. They're even calling it packing the court. Yeah. You know, a derisive term.
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Starting point is 01:26:36 You're on the Glenn Beck program. Good morning, Glenn. How are you? Thank you for taking my call. You bet. First-time caller. I just wanted to look at some conservative talking points. My question is, as an African-American, a veteran entrepreneur,
Starting point is 01:26:50 is when we look at it, what's being discussed in my circles is how it's not fair. It's a hypocrisy for social justice. What I mean by that. Illegal sanctuade city policies break the law. They're released. Blacks incarcerated. We have to stay in. We don't have funding for attorneys, things of that nature.
Starting point is 01:27:14 My circles are very upset about that because we're not hearing the attention of that from conservative or libertarian talking points and viewpoints. We hear about the lowest unemployment rate, okay, I got it, but something that matters more that we can see and put our hands on as tangible is
Starting point is 01:27:34 how it's not fear. But to turn around and say that, hey, we're all for social justice, we're looking out for you're saying black lives matter when all lies matter. It's not resonating, it's upsetting, and it's a hypocrisy, and I don't know why that's happening.
Starting point is 01:27:49 So tell me what you want to hear again from Republicans. What I would like to hear from Republicans is why not go at the Democrats and call them out on it? This is what my family. Okay. I'm a friend you're talking about after we finish church is. How come Republicans don't come out and say, hey, you voted for Democrats, and Democrats are letting the illegals who broke the law. And then by entering the country, one, two, they're breaking another law in the Sanctuary City.
Starting point is 01:28:13 The policies are allowing them to go free. The same jurisdictions aren't supporting or working with. federal municipalities or whatnot, but we get a DUI or whatever that it may be, we're stuck in jail. We don't have anybody to call to get funding. So we would love to hear Republicans to say, why are you voting for that? You vote for us with change the law, and that helps benefit you just the same and it levels the playing still. They don't say it. Okay, so I think that you're going to see more of that. They're not ones to generally, neither am I, to generally bring race into things.
Starting point is 01:28:52 But I think that, you know, just the lack of, the lack of action and voice from the Republican Party, real voice against what's happening in our country and the burning down of cities, these parts of these cities that are being burnt are black owned. and it's going to take them at least a decade to be able to rebuild and get the insurance rates to go back down and be able to be a real successful entrepreneur there. And it's done by a bunch of white people. And the Democrats are supporting this. The Democrats, do you see Nancy Pelosi came out this weekend and finally said, oh, you know, these riots have got to stop. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I thought they were peaceful protesters. And we should do something to punish these people that are doing this. Really? Why is that? Because the polls have changed? I mean, I don't know how this isn't causing more problems with race and race relations. Because every time I look at these riots, it's a majority of white people burning down black people's homes and businesses. Am I anywhere? Do we lose him? We must have lost him. Shoot. It must have been to one point. Let me go to Rick in Texas. Hello, Rick.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Hello. I wouldn't let everybody know there's a public vote going on, and you can vote on it nationwide. It's going to be, it's going to determine whether the Alamo Senate have war monument stays on the Alamo grounds or is permanently removed. Okay. And anybody in the nation can vote on this, and it's really simple. The deadline is 8 o'clock tonight at Central Time. So we got all day to day. Okay. So what is the, what's the web address on this? I just heard about this. over the weekend? Yes, sir. Save the Alamo. U.S. not dot com. Save the Alamo.
Starting point is 01:30:53 dot U.S. You read the article there. You go down and it gives you a link and it shoots you straight over to where you register and catch your phone. So, Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. I just heard about this and I didn't realize the deadline was today. But the movement is to take the Alamo war story
Starting point is 01:31:14 out of the story of the Alamo and to imagine the Alamo space over a 10,000 year period. And so it's a space that will tell the whole story of what that space was like over the last 10,000 years. So they're deemphasizing what the Alamo actually means. Is this the same thing you're talking about? Yes, you're exactly correct. And they've tried to deny that, but just two weeks ago that one of their main planners came out, publicly on the radio and said that the Alamo story of the Five for Freedom is, quote, a mythology.
Starting point is 01:31:52 It's wrong. It's bunk. We don't want that because it perpetuates a lie. So that's the exact motivation behind this. Okay. Thank you. I didn't know it was happening tonight. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Save the Alamo. . U.S. Thanks for calling in. You have till 8 p.m. tonight. Tell everyone you know. Tell everyone you know to go there, read it.
Starting point is 01:32:14 and if you agree with it, make sure you vote to keep the Alamo. This is yet another attempt. This is the 1619 project, but it's in Texas. And one of the reasons I moved to Texas was because I heard that they were starting to not teach the truth about the Alamo. The Alamo is very well documented. We know exactly what happened. And here were a group of Americans that were fighting for the freedom of Mexico. they were fighting they weren't fighting for Texas they were fighting for the freedom of the Mexicans they were heroes
Starting point is 01:32:51 and the reason why we got into a fight with the Mexicans afterwards is because they killed these guys the the Mexican oppressor at the time was a really bad guy and we heard their plight several Americans, the last few that were remaining, these guys were there and they knew they were facing certain death. You can't teach this anymore. Now it's a symbol of oppression in a lot of places, at least, I mean, including Texas. But now they've decided they're going to go the last step. And that is take out all of the Alamo war story and make it about that sacred land that has been sacred for 10,000 years long before America, and it'll be safe and a sanctuary long after America.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And believe me, if they could remove the chapel on it, they would. This is American history. This is like saying, here's Independence Hall, but we're not going to talk about the Declaration of Independence. We're not going to talk about what happened there. That's insanity. please go to save the alamo.org. At us.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Or sorry, dot us. Save the alamo. And vote to save the alamo. You have to 8 o'clock tonight, at least according to this caller. But I did hear it. I did hear about it this weekend. Somebody said,
Starting point is 01:34:32 Glenn, you got to talk about this. I didn't realize it was today. I heard it from QAnon. Oh, did you know? No, no. I'm just kidding. I have no idea. This is not a conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:34:40 theory. This is real. You never know. I mean, you never know now. Let me go to Ben in Missouri. Hello, Ben. Hello? Hi, you're on. I'm in Michigan. Yeah, Missouri. Okay. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no worries.
Starting point is 01:34:58 My question to you guys and to the talker before, these mask mandates, I have anxiety with mask mandates. I feel like everybody's a puppet. it's not a good thing. And I live in Michigan where it's pretty dang mandatory. Yeah. And if we have Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's nominee not happen and everything else,
Starting point is 01:35:27 I'm worried like you were talking about that these mask mandates are going to be forever. And then I just constantly have to have this anxiety for the rest of my life. So here's the thing. First of all, Ben, don't my mother used to. say don't borrow trouble. Don't borrow the trouble from the future. So just worry about the things that you can worry that you need, that you need to worry about today.
Starting point is 01:35:50 So don't get anxiety, you know, about a mask mandate that's going to happen. Let's see what, let's see what happens. And I will tell you that right now, the mask mandate and all these mandates, they all fell by the wayside in Pennsylvania. We're going to see some more action on that today. But I don't believe that these things are going to stand. And honestly, If we start getting mass mandates and being locked down, you know, until 2022 is what they're actually saying now.
Starting point is 01:36:18 If that happens, you're going to have anxiety over something else. It won't. The mask will be the least of your worries. Other things, my business is, you know, destroyed and everything else is happening. But, you know, I live in Michigan. So this is what's happening. But, yeah, what do you think if Trump does nominee somebody in, you? these, the Pennsylvania stuff goes to the Supreme Court, you know, is the Supreme Court going to
Starting point is 01:36:47 hold up the, they're ruling? I don't know. I mean, that's why it's important for Donald Trump to be able to get the right person in. And this is probably the most important selection, because we cannot have another Justice Roberts. You can't count on Roberts. Roberts is not a conservative. Every time he could vote on the things that really matter, every time he could vote for the Constitution, he fails in that. He is, I think he is worried about legacy. I don't know, I don't know what has gotten to him, but something got to him. And he has, he has become very, very undependable. And in fact, I think, you know, on the other side, if you will. Yeah, I think he's very dependable. It's just not on our side. Yeah, not dependable for
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Starting point is 01:39:36 Very much for taking my call. I really enjoy your show. Thank you. Quick things. A comment and a question. Yes. I live in Washington County, about 12 miles south of Pittsburgh. Yeah. Can you pick up your phone if you're on speaker phone? Can you pick it up by by chance okay go ahead i just want to you know thank you for having the attorney the attorney for being on your show for for someone to fight back against governor wolf because the republicans here doing nothing so i just want to thank you for that this is crazy i don't know what's wrong with republicans this is they're afraid of their own shadow they have the constitution on their side and a group of people so willing to stand up for them i they're just lost they're just lost
Starting point is 01:40:27 Glenn, they have the facts and history behind them. Yes. They can support. And they never use it. And it drives me absolutely nuts. So it's really a shame. And thank God for President Trump, because he does push back and fight back. And that's why we love him.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Every day that goes by, I think, how wrong I was about some of the things that I thought were his biggest flaws. I think he's the only one that actually has gotten into office and really has just plowed right through him. And it's because of the way he behaves. He's out of the system, literally just completely foreign to the system. And the system doesn't know how to fight it. And it's important right now. Also, he's a businessman. He solves problems.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Politicians talk. He solves problems. And I think that gets mistaken. too. I think that's a very important point. Yeah. Thanks, Pat, for your phone call. You know, one of the things that Donald Trump said, I think, a week ago was it's more important to me to be a problem solver than the president. And that's when they were saying, this isn't very presidential.
Starting point is 01:41:40 He's like, I'm trying to solve the problem. Mike, Minnesota, you're on. Wow. This is such an honor to speak with you. Let me get an off speaker. I just wanted to talk. You know, I'm up in Bumigi, Minnesota, if anybody's ever heard of that, and nobody probably had until Donald Trump flew in here on Friday. And it was so exciting in this little town.
Starting point is 01:42:05 We're a town of 11,000 people up here. And seeing his great big plane. Now, I didn't physically get to go. They said that there were 15,000 people at the rally. I have three of my kids were there. I have 10 children. And three of my children were there. So I got really good data from them of how it was.
Starting point is 01:42:23 And they sat there for six hours waiting to hear him, and he spoke for, I think it was pretty nearly two hours. And everybody that was there was just so kind and so it was just a wonderful experience. I went to a Bush rally years ago and I kind of relate to it. But it was so fun having him here. And this whole town, a little dinky town up in northern Minnesota that I think tends to be on a bit on the liberal side. We have a college here and stuff. But the Trump signs are everywhere. And just last week, because they knew that Trump was coming, a few Biden signs went up.
Starting point is 01:42:57 There's a handful of them around town. And there was a couple of little teeny protests far, far away from the rally. But, yeah, it was just really... What do you think, Mike, is going to happen with Minnesota? I mean, you guys are at ground zero. And I think Minnesota is really in play for Donald Trump. Because... I can only speak from my...
Starting point is 01:43:18 I really did not want... want to vote for him last time. I was the Ted Cruz guy, but I did. But like I said, I have 10 children. He got one vote out of my family. This time, everybody's on board with Trump. So I can only speak from the people that I know, but he is, I just have never seen this kind of excitement about somebody before. He actually came through in ways I would have never imagined that he would. Mike, thanks so much. Thanks so much. Thanks for standing. You know, I think that's the one thing I keep coming back to is the enthusiasm for Joe Biden. It's just not there.
Starting point is 01:43:56 I mean, Joe Biden's lucky that the pandemic is happening because the crowds for Joe Biden would speak volumes at any other time. You know, when you have Donald Trump, even Barack Obama didn't do this. Barack Obama went out and had huge crowds in the first time. The second time, they had to put him into small, you know, venues because he was not drawing the big crowds because people didn't feel the voters didn't feel that he was actually still one of them. Where this time Donald Trump, the voters are feeling, I think even more that he is one of them. And people should notice what a difficult thing this is that Trump is trying to do being reelected in this environment. I mean, this is this environment is impossible. is grown in a lab as the perfect way for Joe Biden to achieve whatever his highest level is of votes.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I mean, this is exactly what he needed was to be able to stay out of the spotlight as much as possible. And as you point out, take down one of Trump's big strong suits. I mean, it really is. He's able to keep Trump out. You know, he has not had, you know, this is recent where he's had these sorts of crowds, but even these are smaller than the ones he was last, they had last time because of obviously COVID restrictions. So, I mean, it's a big difference and it's an uphill battle here. He's trying to fight.
Starting point is 01:45:18 People should remember that. Yeah. And I think if Trump wins, I really truly believe about 50% of that will have to go to the press. They got him elected. They'll get him reelected. As we age things start to break down the burst of energy that we feel when we're young, start to give way to aches and pains, inflammation in the body. It combines with the bumps and bruises that we all go through over the year.
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Starting point is 01:46:53 The promo code is Glenn for 10 bucks off your Blaze TV subscription. Welcome to the program. Ginsburg, of course, is the big news of the day. We wanted to see what we can expect. The president has announced that he's got a list, a short list now of about five. In fact, play what he said just this morning. So you said you'll make the announcement this week. Can you tell us more about that? Will it be the beginning of the week? What day?
Starting point is 01:47:28 I think it'll be on Friday or Saturday. And we want to pay respect. It looks like we will have probably services on Thursday or Friday. As I understand it, I think in all due respect, we should wait until the services are over for Justice Ginsburg. And so we're looking probably at Friday or maybe Saturday. So I think that's nice. I would imagine that there are some radicals out there going, well, just don't bury her for a month. Because we can make it in time. And I think it's really important that the Republicans and the president do this. We have Kerry Severino on with us. She is the president of judicial crisis. And we wanted to talk to her. And I guess, I guess, Kerry, the first question is, do we have enough time to confirm a SCOTUS replacement before the election? The answer is yes, absolutely. You look at Justice O'Connor. She was confirmed 33 days after her nomination was submitted, and she was unanimously you have Justice Ginsburg herself, 42 days, again, almost unanimously. And Justice Stevens, 19 days. Now, that was, you know, that was, you know, a couple decades ago, but we can totally do it.
Starting point is 01:48:44 And what's interesting is all of these women that the president is looking at, they have been recently confirmed by the Senate, and I think all with bipartisan majority. So the Senate has seen them recently. Their information, like their background file from the FBI, all is almost up to date already. I think there's not a lot standing in the way of moving forward. We already know, you know, even the senators are familiar with all of these not potential nominees already. Okay. So he said he had a list of five, but three of them we know.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Are you familiar with those three female judges? Yes. Yeah. The three that we hear a lot about are Amy Coney Barrett. Obviously, everyone remembers her dogma lives loudly within you moment with Senator Feinstein last year, those anti-Catholic attacks that went on. She held her own with grace under pressure. She's the mother of seven, including two children who were adopted from Haiti. Just a really inspiring story in her life.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Barbara Lagoa, who has spent over a decade in the Florida state courts now is on the 11th Circuit, thanks to Donald Trump. She is the daughter of Cuban immigrants who really speaks eloquently about her own parents, desire to come here because they wanted their children to grow up in a nation of laws, not a tyrannical government. And so she's very committed to making sure that the role of a judge is to just interpret the law, not make it up. And then Allison Rushing, as someone else, the president mentioned, she's a Fourth Circuit nominee. She is someone who has a distinguished legal career.
Starting point is 01:50:08 She clerk for Justice Thomas, like I did. She also came under fire like Barrett during her confirmation process because she'd been involved in the group Alliance defending freedom, which stands for religious freedom and things like So she understands also what it's like to be attacked for your faith. So the one that, I mean, let's just play politics here for a second. Then I'll quickly switch to Constitution. But the one who makes sense, I think on both sides politically and also with the Constitution, is Barbara Lagoa.
Starting point is 01:50:39 I mean, the background of her being Cuban, she's from Florida, Cuban, and then, more importantly, being the first American generation, I think those people get it much more than anybody else. And I think that that's a strong vote for her on sticking to the Constitution. Would you agree, or all three of them that way? Who's the best on holding to the Constitution, do you think? You know, the great thing about these final short-listers that we're hearing about, honestly, I think all of them would be outstanding. I could put my seal of approval on all of them in terms of what I've seen of their record on the court. So that's really encouraging.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Yeah, they all have slightly different stories, but I think all have inspiring stories. And it's interesting. They're going to all, thankfully, very much diverge from where Justice Ginsburg would be in terms of her jurisprudence, right? But I do think they carry on that same tradition of being strong women, you know, being path-breaking in many ways. you know, in particular, when you think of Barrett, you know, doing all this with seven kids, how many, how many mothers of seven do you know who are that accomplished in her field and have risen that far? Lagoa, obviously, with her inspiring story of coming here and being the first generation.
Starting point is 01:51:56 So these are people who can really fit into that legacy nicely in terms of all of the best things, I think, about Justice Ginsburg, of her strength and her courage. do you do you see any of these fitting a Scalia or a Thomas kind of standard that's the reason they're on the list right I mean you've got people like Barrett
Starting point is 01:52:20 who was a Scalia clerk and I've heard one of his favorite clerks rushing was a Thomas clerk and Lagoa didn't clerk for either one of them but I love that there was a mean that went around right after she was nominated it said Lagoa it's Spanish for Clarence Thomas and that's really how I think
Starting point is 01:52:36 a lot of the conservative movement in Florida views her. I don't think she has as much, you know, known as much nationally. But so I think all of them, that's the reason they're picked, is this approach to the law where you look first and foremost. It's not what I wish it said. It's not what I think in 2020. We should update it to say it's what did our elected representatives pass? What does the constitution itself actually say? And then, you know, let the chips fall where they may. And if it's not the result you want, go back to Congress and fix it. So, you know, we're just concerned. I think all Americans are just concerned that we would have another Robert.
Starting point is 01:53:10 pick that, you know, that's been devastating, devastating. Well, that's why I think what you're seeing, and this is something that all of Trump's list was really chosen with Roberts in mind. When Molly Hemingway and I were working on a book on the Kavanaugh nomination, Justice on Trial, we learned that part of his vetting process was trying to find like the anti-Roberts, someone who they thought would be strong in the face of pressure. That's why it's so exciting to see people, for example, you know, like, like the Barrett or the rushing, who got pressure during their confirmation process and nonetheless stood up to it.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You know, Lagoa has had, she already on the 11th Circuit has had people trying to launch politically motivated recusal campaigns. And she stood firm. She's like, no, I don't have to recuse in this case. This is an important case. I'm going to sit on it. So you have to have someone who has illustrated in their career that they've got that spine. And what's exciting is all these women have shown they have spines and steel. That we want.
Starting point is 01:54:08 But Lagoa is the only one that hasn't been already in front of a hearing, right? He confirmed to the 11th Circuit by the Senate. So all three of them have been confirmed by this Senate, well, or this is the previous Senate, but within the Trump administration. So again, all of their, you know, their vetting has been recently updated. They have been, they've gone through that kind of heroing process once recently. So I feel like, you know, we're talking about people all of whom are ready, well, if you can ever be ready for what we expect is coming. Because we know that, you know, the Kavanaugh nomination was crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:49 I don't know how you bake it crazier, but I know that there's Democrats right now having brainstorming sessions trying to figure out. But you're a little boy that cried wolf. I mean, you do that a second time. I think that galvanized the country. A lot of people changed their view of what was going on in the next. Democratic Party because of that. And to have that kind of an outrageous scene again, I think would be devastating to the Democrats. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:55:18 I think you're exactly right. They totally overstepped. And I think it really hurt them. Yet somehow, you know, when you look at all the stuff going on, they don't seem to have gotten that message. There's, I think that the radical edge of the party is, you know, is going crazy. And they're kind of setting themselves on fire sometimes literally in ways that I don't think is what most Americans is certainly not
Starting point is 01:55:39 independence and, you know, the moderate ring of the Democratic Party wants to see. So, you know, have at it. Overstep again. Let's see how that works for it. Is there anything in their records that that has been drug out that could be expanded?
Starting point is 01:55:55 Have you seen anything that is bad, or not bad, but just like, oh, geez, that's there. And they had to explain it, but it could be made up into something bigger. Have you seen any trouble or weak spots in any of these people? Well, there's certainly stuff in their records that's going to get controversy,
Starting point is 01:56:13 but I think generally it's controversy for all the right reasons. It's going, oh, my gosh, how could you have, you know, there's cases where they've all ruled and someone's going to go, well, that's a really sympathetic plaintiff. And their answer, which is the right answer, you know what? That's what the law said, and I don't write the law. That's not my job as a judge. So what I have seen is, of course you're going to get controversy,
Starting point is 01:56:34 but I think it's going to be the right kind of controversy on these nominees. that we're looking at and that's that's really excited. Now they have, none of them that had case in every single area of law. No one has. But I think we have a lot of really, you know, these are all people with, with records that we can look at. And that's what, that's what it has to come down to is you look at the objective record that they have. So you can see how they really perform on the bench. Is there anything that the Democrats can do, seeing that the Senate is controlled by the Republicans
Starting point is 01:57:00 and a lot of weenie Republicans, but is there anything that the Senate can do, the Democrats can do, to stop this dead in its tracks. Is there any trick, you know, in the parliamentary rules to be able to stop this? Or can Mitch McConnell, if you can keep his crowd together, proceed? I think if he's got 50 votes, he can do it. Because we got the vice president, and I hope he gets more than 50 votes. But, you know, obviously, I am not a Senate rules expert. That stuff is crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:32 It's really involved. I'm sure they're out there brainstorming. Again, trying to find some hole. but if they couldn't do it for Kavanaugh, I don't think they're going to be able to find it now. And, you know, we'll see crazy stuff going on, like where they, remember, even during the first Kavanaugh hearing, where they tried to just talk over Chairman Grassley,
Starting point is 01:57:51 over it's an hour to get through a time and open, stuff like that, you know, made for TV little moments. Right. But I don't think they actually, at the end of the day, are going to have the vote. And last question. As they go through and you're looking and saying, you know, They need to have 50.
Starting point is 01:58:08 We're going to lose Romney, which would bring us to 50. We've got the two that have already said they're not on board. And then if you lose Romney, you're at 50. Is there anybody else that you're concerned that might go? Do you watch any of that stuff? Hard to keep track. I know there's people who they don't want to have a vote now or whatever. I do think it's going to be hard when you are looking at one of these women in the face
Starting point is 01:58:33 and you see the outstanding role models that they are, the path-breaking careers that they've led, I think it's going to be hard to come to a point and say, yeah, I don't think this person deserves the vote. So, you know, we'll see. I think Leader McConnell knows better than anyone where his votes are. He's going to be in charge of how to navigate this to the Senate. He did it for Gorsuch. He did it for Kavanaugh. Those are really controversial.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I'm confident he can do that again. That's great. Well, I feel so much better talking to you. Let's please stay in touch because I'm going to need to stay in a happy mood. And I think America needs to. Carrie, thank you very much for your analysis. Appreciate it. You can follow her at Judicialnetwork.com or on Twitter at J.C.N. Severino,
Starting point is 01:59:17 Kerry Severino, president of judicial crisis. All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about Goldline and the value of money. For three, what is it, 348 years, the Bank of England has always had interest rates in the positive. they've never gone negative. They just started talking about going to negative interest rates. So you know, that means if you take out a loan, they pay you to borrow the money. Let me say that again. They pay you to take out the money.
Starting point is 02:00:00 That's crazy. That's because, well, we got to spend. But what can we spend it on? Honestly, what can we spend it on? you want to you want to build something make something you can't get the parts right now i went into a gun store i got to tell you about this gun place i went over the weekend it is it's the best shooting range i've ever been at um but anyway um you know i tried to order a gun and they said it might be late 2022 by the time we get it that's insane you want to spend money if you can if you have it
Starting point is 02:00:34 You can't. So anyway, gold line is your hedge against insanity because this is really bad. The market is down also today, 831 points because the stimulus package is being blocked by Nancy Pelosi. We are looking at really uncertain times. And when that happens with a currency, we're in real trouble. Please, please, a hedge against insanity is gold. gold or silver have at least some of your money in gold or silver. And I mean physical gold or silver, stuff that you can get your hands on.
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Starting point is 02:02:06 I don't know if anyone had the... the feeling that I had. It was like Doc Brown when he had that last log that he had to throw into the furnace of the right before the train went over the cliff. Remember that? That's the way I felt this Ginberg thing, the Ginsburg thing was on Friday. When I heard it, I'd like throw another log on the fire. As I look at all of the things that are going on and how unfair the press is and how
Starting point is 02:02:33 nobody knows who to believe and all of this stuff, how does this stuff. How does this not end with real violence? Because if they don't accept the election and they drag it on and they do get the election and they do get the election and they win and then they start to pack the court or any of these things, the right's not going to sit around and accept that. The right's not going to sit around and accept something if they make these boxes in Pennsylvania legal, where you don't even have to have a time stamp on the ballot going in. They're fighting for four extra days for ballots. So the election is on Tuesday, but as long as it's postmarked by the following Friday, it's okay. How do you accept that? It's crazy, crazy.
Starting point is 02:03:30 It's craziness. We have got to find our way. back to some sanity and some traditional rules that all of America is played by forever. We have to find our way back to that before this election. That's going to be a hard one to do. It's going to be a hard one to do. You don't seem so optimistic. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:03:51 But I was optimistic. We should get Kerry back on the phone because I was optimistic about that. You need more drugs for your back. Is that what it is? Okay. Thank you.

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