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Good morning, folks. It is Barclay back in for Beck today. And boy, oh boy, do we have much to discuss.
Yeah, there's lots going on in the world. And even though we take breaks and we take vacations at much needed at times, I got to tell you.
Yet we still, the world keeps moving. We've got to stay on top of it. We do our best today. We got big news out of the Maxwell verdict yesterday. We get into that.
there is news, of course, out of Florida about the Biden administration playing politics.
Not them.
Not the Biden administration playing politics with your lives when it comes to treatment and the mandates and more.
We're going to give it to all of it this morning.
Appreciate you being here.
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The stories don't stop.
You take a break, you take a vacation.
It used to be, I didn't talk about this, but, you know, you'd have a little vacation,
and then the Christmas time roll around, even Thanksgiving,
and then you get to take a little break.
Well, you might.
You might even walk on the beach, like Biden.
Joe and Joe were out on the beach.
I don't know if you saw this.
Joe and Joe were out on the beach.
Joe's got a mask. They're all by
themselves. They got the dog.
I think his name's Commander, the German
Shepherd, and they're walking.
It's a romantic stroll on the
white sandy beaches of
I think they're in Delaware.
At his beach house, as we
still see,
record numbers of COVID cases.
All time, record-breaking
numbers in cases in the United States.
And this guy's
strolling on a beach on vacation.
Far cry from the previous president.
There's a lot of people talking about how much golf he played.
But I think he worked like every day getting the job done.
Regardless of president's personalities and who you prefer, the reality is the numbers are higher.
The deaths, not just the cases, but the deaths now are higher under this president in the past with this pandemic.
and this guy is walking out on the beach and
one of the things that people caught I think
right off the bat was he had a mask on
the guy had us he had like a surgical mask
on the beach with his stroll
now Jill didn't but the resident
himself I call him a resident because he
you know I don't he may live
on the strings but
my point is is
the optics are one thing
who's in
charge and what's happening.
That's another.
What's actually
going down?
And will there really be accountability
for any of the things that we see nowadays?
I saw a story
and we'll get into this
a little bit later on in the program, but I saw a story
about Fauci and how much
the high priest of health
is making
and it's over 430-something,000.
That was last year, maybe
maybe this year it's even more.
He had a 20,000 bump
year to year from 19 to 20.
But that wasn't what
really struck me.
He's the highest paid
federal employee
in the entire government.
He's the highest paid federal employee.
But they had a story about his
pension the other day
and how much he'll get paid.
It's incredible.
When Trump
talked about the deep state or the
swamp. This is what he meant.
He talked about these people who are just ingrained in the system. They're not going anywhere.
There's no accountability, and that's partially why.
We see a problem with this, not just in this situation, all over. Throughout, there's no
accountability. The government will do whatever it wants to do. Whoever's in charge does whatever
they want to do, regardless of what law says.
It's a post-law world that we live.
And why?
I mind, why would there be any law?
Why would we follow any sort of moral code?
Why would we live up to any of the values or principles?
Who's going to do anything about it?
I mean, this resident has told everyone that they must go out and have a medical treatment
done.
Whether you agree with this or not.
not anti-vaccine. I'm
just making the point.
He's told people, everyone,
you're pregnant?
No, you've got to go out and get it.
Get the jab.
Maybe you have
previous issues
in your health history, and
maybe it's not the best choice for you.
And you've discussed this with your doctor. It doesn't matter.
Joe Biden knows best.
Now, the Supreme Court is set to take this up. They say,
what, January 7th, I believe they'll hear oral arguments on
and we'll get a little bit more in depth on what happens next there.
But I'm not holding my breath.
I don't know about you.
I think a lot of us are feeling this way.
And in the same boat these days,
because you've seen it time and time again.
You've seen issues with election integrity.
And there aren't any answers.
You've seen issues where the government themselves have ripped people off.
I mean, I've got a story here in Michigan Day.
It's crazy.
The governor here.
Not only did she lock people down all throughout the chaos of the last couple of years,
not only did she shut businesses down.
Tell mom and pops they couldn't operate.
While the big box stores stayed open and very profitable.
But she also told people what they could and couldn't buy at those stores.
It's incredible.
You could go to a weed shop.
Yes, because it's legal here, the pot shop.
But you couldn't buy potted plants in a garden center.
at the big box store, seeds or anything like that, to grow your own garden.
Liquor store wide open, folks told they needed surgeries just so they could stay alive.
Those surgeries postponed because they were called not essential.
And yet, abortions were profiled.
Have we had any accountability here for that?
No, we've had none.
she faces an election this year so she's backed off of some of those things and kind of quietly slipped away
while some in her party are calling for mask mandates and what kinds of other things here especially as we've seen record numbers of cases
and we'll get into all that a little bit later on too but hoping that you and i forget and that no one holds her
accountable the numbers are staggering 12 billion dollars that's how much in fraudulent unemployment the state paid out
that's the new story
billion dollars. Folks, we don't have problem when it comes to raising money or revenue
here in this country. Tax dollars, viewers in mind. I mean, they have no problem dip it into
your pocket. The problem we have is how much money we're spending. It's staggering. And there's,
again, no accountability for any of this. So when we look at what's happening in the world around
us today. It's no wonder
people are frustrated. It's no wonder people
are fed up. Feeling
hopeless and helpless.
I think part of that is by design.
So today, partially, yes,
we will acknowledge the problem. I'm not going to
bury my head in the sand and act like
it doesn't happen or it's not, it doesn't
exist. But here's the truth.
The good things happening too.
We'll talk about those good
things. We'll shine a light on them.
We'll tell you what you can do.
Because I think part of what we're seeing
play out here today.
In this country, if not the world, is really the psychological operation that it doesn't matter
what you do.
It doesn't matter what you think.
You've got to follow the rules.
Unless you're one of the chosen, you get to make the rules.
Then the rules are for thee and not for me.
Just like our governor, who again was telling restaurants how many people could sit at a
table together.
Everyone's got to wear masks.
She's caught busted time after time again.
breaking her own rules.
Just like Governor Gavin News,
out in California, Cuomo and New York,
all these people,
supposed leaders
who again
skate through with very little
accountability.
We'll talk about that coming up
and more accountability,
specifically in this case,
Maxwell.
The verdict out yesterday,
guilty on five of the six counts,
will there be any real accountability?
And is this maybe a sign of it?
Or are they sweeping things under the rug in the biggest cover-up, possibly of all time, as some have suggested?
You get it all, the good, the bad, and the ugly, because I believe you need to hear it.
To make the best decisions that we can for one another, and of course, for our families,
we've got to be fully informed.
And that's what we'll attempt to do today.
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Coming up, you're going to hear from a man who was actually at the Maxwell trial.
You know, it's interesting because I saw this sparsely covered in the news.
This is all part of the accountability process.
In order to have accountability, we've got to have a press,
a free press, who is going to go out and cover the...
tough stories, the stories that may not
necessarily even make themselves
look good. We've got to go
against the narrative. We've got to have
the truth. Maybe one of the reasons
why we didn't hear much about
the story, except for at the very beginning,
they had some cameras lined up.
The networks were there,
and they had
folks there
to cover it, and I noticed that the coverage was
very slanted. If you watch CNN or MSNBC,
as they talked about the Maxwell
trial, they would show you pictures.
of Jeffrey Epstein.
If you watch Fox News,
they would show you pictures
of Jeffrey Epstein
with Bill Kitt Clinton.
Yeah, the truth is,
and I don't,
because I wasn't on that plane,
buy my name on that list,
can tell you exactly what happened,
but I know that these folks
that are wealthy and they're powerful,
they all tend to sort of stick together.
Now, there are stories about
what Trump witnessed at his club
and why he booted and banned
Epstein from that club
permanently. I don't know.
But in order to have real accountability,
we've got to be able to examine
all of it. We've got to be able
to look at the truth, even when the truth hurts.
And we've got to be able
to take a close look
and make sure that we move
forward, holding these folks accountable.
But the media wasn't really
interested in that, were they?
They didn't follow
the testimony of the witnesses. They didn't
follow what was actually said in the
testimonial witnesses.
We've got one Michigan connection here, actually.
One of the women, the soap star, Jane Dell number, I think it might have been three.
Don't hold me that, but one of those women testified that she was picked up, so to speak,
and groomed from a very young age at a camp for the arts here in Michigan.
It's a worldwide, a world-famous camp called Interlock.
Now, Epstein apparently was one of the folks that contributed to this camp.
They talked about that in the testimony.
She talked about how she had just lost her father, and her family was struggling.
He was a famous composer, I think, conductor.
And she just wanted to, I think, sing it was.
She just wanted to be a part of the arts.
So they couldn't afford this camp.
am. She was sent there basically on a scholarship that year, but Epstein took a liking to her,
and that's when it all began, this idea that she would have an opportunity to come around
these people, that they cared about her, that he was just a patron of the arts, and that he was
there to shepherd her along the way, because he cared so much about the arts. And then we got
into the really damaging stuff. The testimony I don't even really like to talk about her.
or even read about.
But it was reported.
It was all reported by our next guest
who spent hours in that courtroom.
An independent journalist
doing the job at CNN.
And some of the big guys wouldn't do
releasing those transcripts on his blog.
And then we have a chance to read and hear
what was happening behind the scenes.
My question is, we've got one down here.
This Maxwell, who ate at Epstein.
in what he was involved in.
But from what we heard in some of that testimony,
there are many others involved.
The question is, will they be held accountable?
Will there be enough?
Is there even any political or enough political will
to move forward with that?
Folks, in order to have accountability,
one of the things we must come clean about with ourselves
is that we live in a fallen world and there is evil all around us.
In fact, when you hear these stories, it's nauseating.
One of these stories that these people would walk amongst us, and yet they are.
And if we bury our heads in the sand and we act like it doesn't exist,
and they'll be free.
That's exactly what they want.
Free to pray part of dealing with this, part of real accountability,
is facing it, the facts, the good, bad, and the ugly, no matter where it leads us, there's a lot
I'd rather focus on, there's a lot I'd rather talk about, there's a lot I'd rather think about,
much more than this absolutely horrifying, nauseating information. And maybe that's part of why
the networks haven't touched on it. Maybe that's part of why the networks haven't really run
with it. They're too busy in our echo chambers trying to feed us what they think we want to hear
that will support their narrative and continue to get them the clicks, the ratings that they're looking
for. Look, I'm saying things that are true here. I don't know how popular some of the stuff is going to be,
but they keep feeding us what they think we want to see and hear, and of course we come back day after
day. But if they don't talk about the things that really matter, if they don't talk about the
some of the ugliest of the ugly.
Pete, these mistakes over and over again.
I don't know about you, but I'm fed up.
I've had it.
I'm frustrated.
I want change.
And that takes real accountability.
Coming up, we'll talk with a guest who was actually there in the courtroom with Maxwell and the rest.
He'll give you the full breakdown.
behind the scenes.
Let's hold them accountable.
We continue after this.
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And always a pleasure to be here with you.
Again, you know, we're talking about.
these stories that seem to be not taking a break for anything these days.
And this one is a big one.
It's the Maxwell trial.
And it quietly last night, although I guess during a holiday break, we get the verdict,
which I think is kind of interesting in itself.
There were stories about why they may not in fact,
where they may have to move things up, why they might be a mistrial.
We got rising COVID cases.
The judge is taking a look at all of that and trying to weigh it all in.
And finally the jury comes back.
Guilty five out of the six counts.
There's so much to talk about in this entire story.
Let's start to break some of it down with one of the people who was there through it all.
His name's Christont-Harrison.
He was actually an independent journalist in the courtroom, hearing the testimony and releasing much of it on his.
blog, the rundown live.com, and of course, Christaun, we appreciate you being here with us today.
How are you?
Hey, Justin.
Thanks for inviting me on the program.
And, yeah, it was a very interesting trial.
I'd have to say that yesterday the verdict came down guilty on five of six charges.
I think that the jury did its justice, and she probably deserves a lot more, considering
the torment that all the victims went through.
We even saw victims start to show up during the jury deliberation to wait for.
for the verdict from the jury and their decision.
But this case was very interesting, and like you mentioned,
we are the only one to release the transcripts of the victim's statements,
as well as the Butler and the Kelly McGuire transcript of the FBI raid on Epstein's home
on the rundown live.com.
And I guess where do we start?
I think part of this story, really, Christon, is maybe in the beginning,
I talked about it.
You discussed this, the media presence.
And the beginning it was kind of strong.
There were cameras out in front of the courtroom.
But then they started to just sort of trickle away day by day.
There were less fewer and fewer.
What did you make about that?
Well, being a witness in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial,
as well as having viral footage in the Kenosha unrest and taking the stand,
every day when I was in Kenosha at the courthouse,
There were tents all over the place, vehicles with satellites stretching to the sky.
You couldn't park anywhere near the courthouse.
And that's not what I saw at the federal court in New York.
What I saw is on the first day, there was a very strong media presence.
And then, like you mentioned, it went from, you know, 20 to 30 tripods.
And then within a couple days, two or three tripods in front of the courthouse,
down to the fact that one Saturday, there was no tripods.
In fact, only four journalists showed up period
for the charging conference that they had on Saturday
prior to deliberation.
So it was really weird to see all the media show up
for the jury deliberation, and they didn't know who the lawyers are,
what they looked like.
They were chasing down random people,
taking pictures of them because they could identify
who these individuals were
because they weren't in the courtroom
for the actual,
testimonies, which blows my mind. I didn't see, I'm not going to name a lot of these networks out
there, but, you know, Fox, you know, I didn't see them. The people that were there were like the New York
Times, Slate, of course, Vanity Fair, Yahoo News. And then there was a bunch of independent
journalists as well, myself included, and a large, strong presence from public individuals
and lawyers who lived in the area who had interest in the case. Now, what I make of it,
is from the core out.
And what we saw is when the Atlantic wrote the article that child trafficking is basically
fake news, photographs started the surface of the owner of the Atlantic hanging out with none
other than Gilon Maxwell.
Same thing with CNN.
Look at what's happening over there.
That's a disgrace.
How anyone would want to get their news from that outlet after what we've been seeing come
out of there in the last four, five weeks, you know, would blow my mind.
And the owner of CNN, his wife, is seen in pictures with Gilon Maxwell.
I think that it's this elitist mentality that they can do whatever they want, they can get away with whatever they want, and it's very normalized.
We saw yesterday, Gilaan Maxwell's sister and brother, Kevin Maxwell and Isabel Maxwell, who took my photograph, by the way.
I had no reason, no idea why that was, but they came on, they said that they firmly believe in their sister's innocence, and they believe that she will be vindicated, and they've already filed for an appeal.
That's how brainwashed and ludicrous these elites are,
where they believe they can get away with everything.
This is the norm, what Prince Andrew does, Bill Clinton,
flying around on a jet plane with Epstein, Bill Gates,
another big name on his logs.
Donald Trump is another one, which, you know,
are actually doing these names really surprise anyone?
Kevin Spacey, I mean, these are all individuals that have been rumored
and have had gossip come out that they were a predatory.
John Glenn, the astronaut.
We know that there's photo.
of Elon Musk.
A lot of your faves, an interesting people, are on this list with Jeffrey Epstein.
The question is, how many of them were involved in the predatory activity on Little St. James Island
that may have been used for some kind of initiation into elitism or blackmail, and how many of them
were actually just doing business with Epstein for selling his, you know, estates and his different
properties?
Yeah, I think that's part of the question, you know, these folks, powerful, wealthy, whoever they are, they do.
A birds of a feather flocked together in a lot of ways.
So some of the question is, are these people, are these people, are they engaged in something more nefarious?
Or are they just embarrassed by the fact that they're related, they're having their picture taken with these?
I mean, I've taken pictures with a lot of different people that, you know, I don't necessarily know.
there's a picture of me
because back in the day
these guys would come around radio tours
and I stopped into a radio tour
to do a promotional thing
there's a picture of me with Jared from Subway
now
that was the only time I ever met the guy
and I try to
you know if I can delete that picture
somewhere scrub it off the internet
I probably would
but the question is
is there more to this story
and anytime there's an
in just an appearance of impropriety
it's got to be fleshed out.
And we have to know we need to have accountability when we see stories like this being kind of pushed to the back burner.
When we see stories like this not being fully covered, well, that's a problem because that doesn't allow us to know exactly what was going out to have full transparency and to hold these people accountable.
My question is there was a lot of disturbing testimony and you sat through most of it.
Kristen, what was some of the things that were talked about, not just Galane here?
not just Maxwell, not just Epstein, but some of these other folks, what did those people testify to?
And is there are other people that we do need to know about and need to be looked into?
Yeah, the first testimony was Jane Doe.
And Jane Doe, as you guys know, is Nadia from Days of Our Lives that came out and was exposed later on.
They literally used her name allegedly accidentally in the trial, her real name.
and it wasn't hard to find her, but she, as well as Kate and Carolyn, the three anonymous girls and Annie Farmer, whose sister Maria Farmer has been retweeting a lot of my transcripts, all really painted the picture of a grooming culture.
It seems as though Epstein and Maxwell would go to interlock in Michigan, where they have an elite summer camp for promised children who,
who maybe are going to be the next models or TV actors or famous musicians,
and it's expensive to go there.
And Jane Doe had her interview at 13 years old.
Maxwell and Epstein identified that her father just recently passed.
She was a famous conductor.
She lived in Palm Beach, Florida, you know,
and they were currently homeless living in a pool house of a close friend.
of theirs. So they identified, first of all, that this girl had talent, that she wanted to be a singer,
so they could program in their brain that they could be the hero, pay for her schooling, pay for her
college, any kind of special singing classes or acting classes that she may want. Epstein could
come through on that way in a big way. But that was the grooming interview to identify those
things and see who was good and easy to be abused. Girls with broken homes, no father figure.
Mother is distraught.
And so they invited her and her mother over to his Florida mansion.
And she sang for him.
Epstein and her mother had discussions,
and it wasn't long before she started going to Epstein's alone.
Well, another process of the grooming situation is desensitizing the children.
So within Epstein's mansion, he had painting,
of graphic sexual encounters and orgies and naked women, as well as there would be like
topless women in the pool. And this would all start to desensitize the children, including
Maxwell and Epstein would bring these girls to rated our movies with explicit sexual
scenes, again, desensitizing the children, conditioning them. And then at some point, Maxwell
would say it's time to massage Jeffrey Epstein. And the massage room seemed to be where the final
grooming process came where Galae Maxwell would show the girls how to massage Jeffrey Epstein
all over his body and I'll let you use your imagination what that means leading to gratification
eventually intercourse and orgies in the massage room with the young 14-year-old girl from Palm
Beach and it's gut-wrenching.
I want to throw up in my mouth just thinking about it makes me angry.
Yeah, the stories are nauseating.
I got to ask you though, Christan, and I'm, it's a sensitive material, but it is material that I believe we have to face, we have to confront.
These are some of the things that are happening in our society, and if we don't, they will continue on and on.
And it could be your daughter, it could be, and I think about that as a father.
I mean, the sick things that are happening out there.
So was it only Epstein, or did they get into the testimony of anyone else engaged?
because we hear all the names that are associated with these flights and the trips to the island, et cetera.
Was there anybody else?
They point the finger at anyone else.
Well, Les Wexner's name came up quite a bit as an enabler as well.
And it seemed like the prosecution gave a very diet explanation,
and there was opportunity for the prosecution to name other people that were on the flight logs with, you know,
with Jane Doe, with Carolyn, with Kate.
And even the judge at one point said, you know, you can reveal these identities.
They haven't been redacted.
And the prosecution, Comey's daughter, basically said, well, there's no need to bring those names up.
They're not pertinent to the case, which makes me wonder why they wouldn't,
considering they blacked out all these other names and the flight logs amongst other things.
So we don't really know in detail.
I think that's another reason why Virginia Roberts didn't testify.
I'm really surprised at that, especially because it would bring into the whole trafficking charges.
It was a very clear-cut case.
You know, Prince Andrews is involved in that one.
And there's other people that she would have named that I think would have blown this thing much larger and made it blow wide open.
The other interesting thing is that the judge decided not to grant immunity to any of the witnesses.
So if you're a witness and you're going to tattle about the bad things happening on Epstein's Island
and, you know, you're going to go to jail for it.
Why wouldn't you just plead the fifth and why would you even take the stand?
Chris, we've got to take a break here.
But another thing that happened was that all these records got sealed.
We'll talk about that when we come back.
How can you have real accountability if you don't have access to all this information?
We're not transparent about it.
Talk about that.
Chrisontee Harris joins us to rundown live.com and the update on the Maxwell verdict yesterday.
Again, five out of the six counts, guilty.
Back with more.
Barkley and for back on the Glemba program.
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a lot of 40,000 images and photographs and videos,
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Her little black book of contacts, Herne Epstein, and may never be seen.
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Oh, you've got record number of cases, and they say, expect it out into the next coming weeks,
and all those free tests that Biden said were coming your way.
He's going to mail them to you along with, I guess,
mail-in ballots for 2022, but it's quite the mail-them to you.
And more.
Yes, it's all mounting as he walked on his vacation on the beach with his wife, Jill, with a mascot, all by himself, out in the middle of nowhere.
You just can't top this, folks.
The level of insanity and all the politics, all his people's lives, literally hang in the balance.
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to get around big tech as well.
And speaking of big tech,
you know,
talked about accountability.
We are seeing accountability issues
throughout the entire process
in a lawless nation,
a lot of ways.
We're seeing folks
who just aren't being held accountable
for any issues.
We are now
staring straight down the barrel
of another crisis,
probably been created
by the Biden administration,
a lot of ways.
We have this,
Amicron variant that's out there. Be afraid. Be very afraid. And the media, of course, starts their usual drumbeat of the fear mongering, ramping everything up, the tension so that you and everyone else will be on pins and needles as this thing comes through. But they completely deny and ignore. Some of the most important, and I think promising
out of South Africa.
There's a study that suggested Omicron.
Not only are we hearing that it's less lethal.
The symptoms are more mild.
But the new study out of South Africa suggesting that Omicron, or as I like to call it, Comicron,
because we know that obviously is the last variant altogether.
It's called communism.
But Comicron actually has some positives to it.
South African scientists at the Africa Health Research Institute have examined 33 unjabbed and jabbed individuals who had contracted the Omicron variant.
According to Reuters, they found that people who were infected with Comicron developed enhanced immunity to the Delta variant.
In other words, this Comicron, this thing could be a positive because it could help folks.
hate to use this word.
They might cancel me, but herd immunity?
I know it's not allowed to use that anymore.
But it could help folks fight off other infection when it comes to the variants that are out there, including Delta, which they say is a little worse than the original.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's worse or not.
But I believe that to be some good news.
And some of the news you're just not hearing.
See, there tends to be a bit of a censorship battle going on.
It's an editing of who you can hear from and who you can't hear from.
What ideas are allowed to be discussed in the public realm and what aren't.
In fact, yesterday it happened, and are you surprised by it?
The inventor of the MRNA technology.
That's what's in the Pfizer and the Moderna jams.
the inventor of the MRNA technology
was suspended
from Twitter,
banned. His account is completely gone,
Dr. Robert Malone.
And apparently, it's for talking about
the very technology that he invented.
Now, what in the world,
first of all, do they think we're dumb
Of course that answers, yes, I do.
But this makes no sense at all.
We're told constantly, follow the science and the data.
The science and the data.
And we're told from the high priest to health himself,
Mr. Booster, go out and get your booster shot.
St. Anthony Fauci.
You can't question the science.
I am the science.
We're told that you have to follow the science and the data.
But really what he means is you have to listen to what we say and don't question it.
But people are starting to question it.
People are starting to wake up.
I'm going to give you some good news in that.
Coming up, in fact, one person who is drawing attention to this, I think deserves a little recognition for that.
But Dr. Robert Malone suspended from Twitter, here's some of the things that he said in the past in an interview.
Maybe the reason why he's been taken down.
Now, the long term, the only solution is political and legal.
And they don't care.
Forcing people to take an experimental medical product is illegal.
It is in federal law.
We call it the common rule.
It is not legal.
Forcing the military to take an unlicensed product and then relabeling it, calling it the licensed product,
which is what I'm telling, military people are coming to me and telling me this is what they're doing.
Because there's a law that the military cannot administer unlicensed vaccines to its personnel.
This is a law that came out of what happened with the Desert Storm and the anthrax vaccine shots
where a lot of military personnel were damaged.
And they're not allowed to give unlicensed products.
So the president commands them to vaccinate the troops with an unlicensed product.
And so there's a colonel now in the Pentagon who will retire soon, so you don't have to worry anymore.
That's why they picked him.
They got a colonel to write a set of orders that are clearly illegal, that all military personnel have to be vaccinated with the vaccine that's not licensed, which is illegal.
And what they're doing is they're telling the military personnel, oh, we're giving you the licensed vaccine community, but that vaccine doesn't exist.
And so the other thing they're doing is they're taking the Pfizer vaccine and they're putting labels on it, calling it Kermit, which is, by the way, a felony.
They don't care.
The law is no longer relevant.
We have a government that is out of control.
It's fascinating to hear the inventor of the MRNA technology say those things.
But he's not the only one.
He's not the only one that's questioning the narrative.
is not the only one that's questioning the politics involved in all of this.
But unfortunately, as that happens, people are dying.
Then I can tell you probably a handful of people I know dead in the last six months or so
because I believe of things that could have been avoided.
We have Twitter or any other group or organization who feels like they get to
who gets a voice and who doesn't.
We have a real problem.
We have an issue.
Now, this creates more problems for all of us anyway,
because Twitter thinking that they're going to make some sort of difference
by silencing this man and taking him off of Twitter.
They have no idea what they've done or maybe they do.
I don't know.
But today, he'll go on Joe Rogan's show.
And Rogan's got a platform and a footprint and an audience that's huge.
That's much larger than any number of people that Malone probably would have reached himself on Twitter.
Even with the retweets and the sharing of the information, et cetera.
And now there's a controversy created around it.
So what will we say?
I am interested to hear about what Twitter, why they decided they were going to take him down this time,
what the real story is behind it.
But folks, there is good news because I think people are.
standing up and they are speaking out.
Real average everyday people.
You know, I don't know if everyday folks are going to know who Dr. Robert Malone is.
Unless you're somebody like me who's, I'm like, you know, I'm forced to deal with this information.
This on a daily basis.
Part of the reason I do it, part of the reason Glenn does it.
So you don't have to.
You can have trusted sources.
We sift through all this and we deal with it.
and that's why.
It's getting tougher and tougher now to decide, okay, who do I trust?
Actually, maybe it's getting easier.
That might be a part of the side effect of this.
But there are new voices peaking out, people that they're constantly trying to discredit now, anyone who does.
And the more they do it, I think the more it backfires.
In fact, the latest, we'll share with you coming up after the break here, it's a voice that, again, they're trying to turn into, I think, a big,
element all of this. But if you
listen to what this man actually has
to say, it's reasonable.
It makes a lot of sense.
And his points are very valid. In fact, he's a guy
that I think most average Americans
might
respect, might listen to.
Regardless of whether he's got a white lab coat or not.
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I like football.
I just didn't grow up with a team that I watch, you know, and I think that's part of it.
But I'm very aware of football.
I'm very aware of the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rogers.
Like, I think most people are.
You have to live, like, under a rock or in a cage.
Cave did not know who he is.
but he is making, I think, a very reasonable argument in the latest story that's out now that he reveals, and this is shocking, but I think somebody made the case, this is shocking, he is revealing the NFL, and a lot of the teams, you may be surprised to find out, are actually using some of the protocols, some of the treatments that he is.
being ostracize for using himself and for talking about.
Here he is on the Pat McAfee show or podcast.
I'm not too familiar.
I think it's a sports show.
And what he has to say, I think is very reasonable.
Just take a listen to some of this clip.
You know, I've gotten accused of spreading misinformation when I talk about the treatment
plan that I used to get better that's been used by a number of people and doctors.
If you watched Dr. McCulloughan Rogan, who's, he's a cardiologist, epidemiologist, he goes at length,
talk about any double-backs, he talks about the treatment plans that he used with people.
I think one of my issues, and I brought this so many times, is one, they don't talk about the
fact that, you know, guys are getting better using this, people are getting better using these
things.
That's fine.
You don't want to talk about that.
but how come in a league where we're seeing with 51 guys on the list yesterday
there's still zero conversation at least publicly around treatment options for people that
test positive i do know behind the scenes this is 100% true there are many teams who are
using or recommending a lot of the same treatments that i got for their players so
dr joe rogan there's treatments being talked about behind closed doors but publicly i don't
understand why we can't talk about treatments and and because I think it needs to be not just
talked about with the NFL players but with the rest of the country that there are ways of
whether there's Delta or Amacron it seems like there's there's not you know there's not a lot
of major symptoms but if you have let's pause it for a second let's let's just pause it there
first so so so he's admitting hey there are there are other things people can try there are
other things that are out there, but there are only certain
official narrative
of proven things that we're allowed to talk about,
and that's the jabs, really, that's it.
Maybe you can kind of talk about
monoclonal antibodies, that sort of
thing in public.
But really, the only
real solution, the only solution, the single
solution we hear from
those in power is, hey, go out, get the
jab, go out and get the jab. No matter which one it is.
And by the way,
they the folks
I'm not going to get into full details on this
but in the early onset
asked me if I would get it and then
talk about it people are being paid
in fact they said we'll pay you to do this
and I turn them down
first of all
regardless of whether I get this or not
this is not the way I want to go about
you probably haven't listened to much of my program because
what I've always said from the beginning I believe very
reasonable. Now we know the folks
that say this type of thing. They're conspiracy theorists
that they'll come after them like they're coming after Aaron
Rogers. But I believe that this decision ought to
be left up to every individual for their own
medical reasons, for their own
personal reasons, whatever
it might be. I don't believe in one size
fits all to everything.
I think that folks ought to make
these decisions, and I've said
this from the beginning. Thoughtfully
contemplate them.
Everybody has their
own scenario, medical issues and whatever it might be. I have friends that have medical reasons
why they needed to get it, and I have friends that have medical reasons and other reasons why
they didn't want to. And they made those decisions for themselves, just like Rogers has.
Call me crazy, but I told people to maybe, hey, consult a trusted health care provider.
And then I said, imagine this. And this is what really threw people for a loop. You may want to
pray about it.
How Terry?
We can only worship one in the white lab coat.
His name is Fauci.
We don't have room.
And Fauci says, you can't have any other gods or treatments before me, apparently.
So people, I guess there are folks that found that to be very unreasonable and just crazy.
But again, I think that's the sign of the times.
We're living in a world where you say something very reasonable, I think sensible at the same time.
and you just get attacked.
And that's what's happening now with Aaron Rogers.
In fact, he's just said that the NFL is using, and a lot of these teams, some of the same treatments, some of the same alternative things that he's used.
And that's how the politics now is at play.
Is it some people get to use these things, but, you know, you don't.
And we can't have these conversations about these things.
I think this is where the real problem comes in.
Here's a little bit more from the clip.
Aaron Rogers and the Pat McAfee Show talking about this.
treatment options that actually help.
You know, and if you don't agree with the ones I use,
well, let's come up with some other ones.
You know, instead of like sticking a person, you know,
putting 10 days in isolation, you know,
and not able to see anybody in zero treatment options,
to me, that's just,
if science can't be questioned,
it's not science anymore as propaganda.
All right, that's it. That's enough.
I don't need any more.
Perfect.
You know, that is something he's going to get in a lot of trouble.
before.
But folks, I mean, this is
a perfect example of how
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not too late. I hope for some.
We have lost far
too many. Unnecessarily, I
believe, because we're not allowed to talk
about these treatment options.
We're not allowed to talk about
some of these things that are up. You know what we're not doing?
We're not allowing doctors
to be doctors.
The stories that are coming out are just absolutely heartbreaking.
One of them you'll hear next.
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Stick around. More after the break.
Back for Beck. It's Justin Barkley on the Glenn Beck program.
And yeah, we're talking about people starting to wake up, folks.
Little by little, and please, as they do, let's wake them up gently and allow them to come to turns like a guy like Aaron Rogers,
who is a very healthy individual, an athlete.
The NFL decided he didn't want to take the jab himself for his own particular.
reason. I mean, these people, everything
they eat is fine-tuned.
Listen, I know
many people have mistaken
me for a world-class athlete before.
They look at me and they think, surely, you must
be some sort of
they're looking for the medals or the trophy
or the rings or something like that. No, no, no. I
look, I understand. Don't like the confusion.
Of course.
I'm joking. But
these people, everything they
eat everything they do down to their sleep and I mean all of it is just fine tuned to a
precision they have teams of people that tell them what to eat do and every single day it's not just
their health it's a business and so they take it very seriously it's no wonder to me that he
and many other of these world-class athletes had had these conversations about wait a minute what
should I really do what they may have even weighed the
risks. So to hear folks like Aaron Rogers come up and speak up is, I think good news for us.
Why? Because we continue to see politics throughout the entirety of this play out in the way
that I believe people are needlessly dying. They're losing their lives and they shouldn't
and they don't have to. Part of those reasons is dealing with the treatments. We're waiting too
long to try to treat people and then with what we treat them with there's only a certain
protocol that's passed down on high from what i understand from the centralized location of
the altar of dr fouchy apparently he gives you the the uh the scroll with all the information
at it and that's what you're supposed to do and then if you ask questions or maybe you think let me
try something differently as a doctor you could be fired or even worse your medical license
could be stripped.
They talked about that here in Michigan.
We're our governor.
You don't want to prescribe this hydroxychloroquine?
You can strip your medical license.
The Ivermectin is the next piece.
But in that interview that I just played from Aaron Rogers, he goes through a number of different pieces.
And those two that you've heard and were demonized aren't the only ones out there.
There are many other different things that people have tried.
Doctors all over the world have been attempting to use and, and, and, and, and, and,
reporting back what works and what doesn't.
Don't you think maybe?
Maybe we ought to listen to them.
Maybe we ought to let doctors be doctors?
Maybe we ought to let real people be treated by the folks who know them best,
rather than the bureaucrats far off in some faraway land.
I mean, there's a lot we can learn from this whole debacle.
And the politics continues, I believe, in this case.
to needlessly kill folks who should still be here today.
Our next guest is on the phone right now.
Her name is Julie, and I don't know how much information you want to give out, Julie.
But I know your husband rather well.
He listens to my local program here in Michigan quite often.
Good man, who I've talked back and forth with quite a bit.
And when I got the news that your daughter was sick,
I began asking the audience to pray and I prayed for her and I got to tell you
when I got the news that she had passed it was well I can't imagine I just can't
imagine how tough it was for you I've lost about a handful of friends in the last five months
people that I know and I think needlessly because of the politics that surround all of this
exactly i i don't want to talk as much about the pot but i just want to find out about your daughter
what happened with her specifically and and i just want to give you a chance to tell your
your daughter's story julie okay well jessica was um she got covid from her husband who got
covid from a vaxed person and um so you get it if you've been vaxed or not she was very sick she
started developing a cough.
She took a home blood oxygen level, and it was very low.
So she called the doctor, and he said that's very dangerous for the baby because she was
29 weeks pregnant.
And he said to take her in, so Matt, her husband took her to the emergency.
They took Jessica, leaving Matt's band-the ambulance to the hospital.
He couldn't go with her, even though he drove her there.
I know she was scared.
Oxygen when she got to the hospital, that was the 29th, 30th.
She texted me and said, can you get a priest?
I think she knew.
I had one go, and he did what he needed to do.
She was very devout, traditional Catholic.
Then they could not keep her blood oxygen levels up.
She refused remdesivir, which there are other drugs.
drugs that do the same. Um, Jessica, um, they called Matt in to talk about the baby.
On the fourth, they vented Jessica and she fought it and fought it and pulled everything out
and said, you know, to Matt that, um, they vent her, she's not coming out of it.
She, she knew. Um, she was very scared.
They sedated her, vented her, and then they did a C-section, and they took the baby.
And she had a little baby, two pounds, 14 ounces.
Jessica was then put in a coma.
A couple days later, we heard she had a collapsed lung with a hole in her lung.
Then a couple days later, she was on kidney dialysis for kidneys were failing.
and then she had multiple strokes.
And then finally, you know, every day or so there was something worse.
She had the brain hemorrhage into the stroke.
So they called us in.
This was on the 14th.
We, Jessica had a will.
We took her, had her taken off the vent.
myself,
Jessica's dad,
her husband Matt,
and her oldest daughter, Josie
went into the room
and it was about 15 minutes later
and she took her last breath.
And I think maybe it was
needlessly that she passed away.
I think that all these things that happened
were from maybe the drugs that they gave her.
They just moved.
out of their house
into Matt's
mom and dad's house
to stay there temporarily
to either find a house
or, you know,
find some land
to build on.
And, you know, Matt,
he's not alone.
He's got his mom
there and I go there
and it's close.
So,
they need to find something in Hamilton.
And there is the farmhouse
Delhi.
did a GoFundee page.
It's raised a lot of money,
but I think they still need a lot of help.
And baby Margaret is now four pounds, one ounce.
She's still on the CPAP off and on, but she's doing good.
How many weeks has she now?
Well, she was born on the fourth, so she's almost four weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know you went through that, too, Justin.
and, you know, how does a man bring a, you know, a baby home, a preemie, you know,
and then plus he has a 16-month-old little boy and, you know, six kids under the age of 13.
She was a mother of seven.
Is that right?
Yes, and she was a very good mother.
She was a warrior mother, you know.
And right around Christmas, I turned 13 on the 22nd.
Sam turned 12 on the 24th.
Esther turned 5 on the 27th and Josie turned 21 on the 27th.
And there's four of them in, actually five of them in December.
But they did have a good Christmas.
They had a lot of donations.
and they were joyful on Christmas,
but it doesn't take away the fact that, you know, their mom is gone.
I can't even imagine.
Julie is Jessica's mother and just kind of ran through some of those things.
We talked about this.
I think people are needlessly dying because of the politics,
and maybe it's the treatment protocol that's been passed down,
or maybe it's the lack of the early treatment
and some of the other options that aren't even being considered.
I'm not sure exactly, but I do know that when we have such a political frenzy
that surrounds these things, that it has real-life consequences, and you're hearing it.
Now, I know this because I've seen five different cases, and Julie, your case, your daughter, Jessica,
is eerily similar to a case of a friend of my wife's.
who her first child found her safe self in the same position and they had to put her on a ventilator
they cut her open she had the kidney failure they took the baby out and eventually she passed
yeah and and to me for me to know two of those people something's not right um and folks
to hear this story,
I guarantee, if I open up the phone lines right now,
we would hear story after story
all across the country where these things are happening
and they don't need to be.
Julie, we're praying for you guys,
we're praying for your family before I let you go.
What do you say to folks that may be the doctors
who, because people are starting to wake up,
I know that are possibly listening saying,
you know, there's something wrong with what we're doing.
These things aren't working.
Maybe the nurses.
What would you say to those folks if you could, you could,
if you could say something that would make a difference?
Well, I know some people that got ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine,
and Jessica was afraid to take it because of the baby.
She wanted to do everything she cooked for that baby.
But I know some people,
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And she asked for it in the hospital and they said no.
So I think she finally wanted it, but they didn't, there's no way they were going to give it to her.
So I think if people can seek out this, there's people that know people that have the, that can get it.
and if you can take it early on, do everything you can to get it and take it because it might save your life.
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Praying for you guys and appreciate you.
Thank you.
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and people are dying and you say,
Justin, I don't know.
What do you mean by that?
What do you mean politics?
That was just the other day.
Rochelle Walensky,
head of the CDC,
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This is how they're making the decisions.
The newest guidance of
moving the quarantine back from 10 to 5 days?
So from what you're saying, it sounds like this decision had just as much to do with business
as it did with the science.
Politics, say it.
Well, so it really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate.
We have seen relatively low rates of isolation for all of this pandemic.
Some science has demonstrated less than a third of people are isolating when they need to.
And so we really want to make sure that we had guidance in this moment where we were going to have a lot of disease.
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That's how we said, apparently, it's not the science anymore, at least not the kind you always thought it was.
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and now
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It's Justin Barkley in for Glynebec today
in the Glemback program.
It's Justin Barkley and for Glyneback today
in the Glemback program from a sunny Grand Rapids, Michigan
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And the story that we heard
about our governor here possibly kidnapped
and, of course, even worse,
killed.
Throughout the course of the pandemic,
my rogue group of individuals
is starting to unravel.
What's the truth?
And how's it connected to January 6th?
We'll get into all of it with our next guest
on the Glenback program.
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You know, Governor Whitmer here in Michigan isn't very popular.
She hasn't been for quite some time now.
and much of that probably goes back to, well, the pandemic and the lockdowns happening specifically in her state of Michigan.
It's Justin Barclay today and from going back on the Glenn Beck program.
You can follow me all over social media at Mr. Justin Barclay, Facebook, Twitter.
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But, you know, the story that I'm intimately familiar with, because throughout the last couple of years,
having to cover everything that happened, you know, as this news of the virus coming from China and who knows what's happening and reporting closures of businesses and governor coming out every, gosh, I guess it was almost every day at one point with press conferences,
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In fact, I'd worked extra hours to report these things
and to bring press conferences to people live on the radio.
We were all waiting with bated breath to find out what the governor was going to shut down next.
She made all kinds of calls that she insists were based on the science and the data.
As we've talked before, now we know, as I admitted during that time,
that she was using political science and polling data throughout the entire process.
So it is, well, no surprise that she's not very popular.
And has it been, as she did things like shutting down the entire state multiple times,
she would talk about her methods for doing so.
She has these dials, you know, and I'm going to just turn them up and turn them down in a very folksy way.
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and maybe for some in her camp, they found her to be that way.
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So we are used to hearing it quite familiar with hearing the stories about Governor
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Now, listen, I know how funny this sounds.
Just as I was speaking very critically about the governor,
and I'm about to tell you about an FBI plot gone wrong,
this happened.
I've just been told by an engineer that it looks like it was some sort of human error
on that person's part.
uh... not not involved with the uh... the glimback folks but somebody here in our
building that i think
must have either the hamster quit running on the wheel
or something funny must have happened here but it was not the fbi so let me get
that out there
and make it clear
but i want to give you time to to acknowledge and let you know what happened there
of course
um i want to welcome our guest in because she's got important information
a story you may not be hearing
many other places
julie kelly is our guest now she's a writer for american greatness
AMG greatness.com.
Julie, I appreciate you being here with us today.
Thanks for having me on, Justin.
Yes, despite those technical issues, it wasn't the FBI, although nothing would surprise me these days.
Let's set this up quickly for folks so that they can understand this, though.
There was a kidnapping plot, a case that was brought to light here not too long.
About a year or so ago, and there was a group of individuals that,
The media started to report that were being arrested.
The FBI had done a sting on these individuals.
They say we're involved with militia.
And they had a plot to kidnap the governor here in Michigan, amongst other things.
And it's really fascinating, and I'll let you kind of dig through some of this and tell us what happened.
But it's all starting really to crumble right now.
And what happened inside that investigation is all coming out so much to the point that
the defense is possibly about ready to have this case dismissed.
Tell us what's going on and how did we get here?
So the defense lawyers for there were six men charged with federal kidnapping charges
and then eight other men facing state charges for this attempted plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer
last year in 2020.
The charges were announced in October of 2020 as early voting was already underway.
in Michigan and other states. Gretchen Whitmer had this overlock press conference blaming Donald Trump
for inciting violence against her, people wanting to kidnap her and possibly kill her.
Joe Biden made a statement, you know, just another example of the FBI interfering in a presidential
election, no big deal. But as the court proceedings continued and have continued,
defense attorneys are filing motion after motion to really supply entrapment.
agents and informants involved in this case.
And you had at least a dozen informants.
You basically had one informant per defendant involved in this case.
But for their intricate involvement, planning surveillance trips, planning military-style training camps that were then photographed and used as evidence,
if the FBI hadn't taken a hold of this and manage every aspect of it, there never would be any of
alleged kidnapping plot. And so defense attorneys are putting together all the evidence related
to this entrapment case. And then on Christmas Day, in the federal case, the five defense
attorneys, one man has already pleaded guilty. The five remaining federal defendants, we dismiss
the conspiracy to kidnap charges against them, arguing again that this never would have materialized
had it not been for the careful handling of this by the FBI. So let's break this down.
because this is a very, I mean, this is a very serious allegation,
but you're saying that from what I understand in this case,
there were just as many FBI informants or FBI folks involved in this militia
and the planning of this supposed kidnapping attempt
as there were the people that are actually accused in now being charged with this.
So it seems as though,
they planned something and tried to force something into happening.
The defense is saying that would have never happened.
It would have never even been a thought process.
That's right, which is wholly against the law in terms of what FBI informants are supposed to be doing.
They are not.
They are legally prohibited from directing any sort of crime.
And how this started, Justin, was, you know, chatter, online chatter.
about lockdown policies.
Of course, Michigan had one of the harshest lockdown policies.
Gretchen Whitmer and Donald Trump got into it for months over that.
Remember his tweet, Liberate Michigan.
And so this is how this began with these attempted,
with these planned anti-lockdown rallies.
And one of them, as you know, took place in Lansing in late April,
which really turned out to be the dress rehearsal for January 6th.
And the FBI was already infiltrated in this sort of loose gang of Facebook self-styled militia types.
And they had already infiltrated, had informants on the ground with people during that protest in April.
And then the FBI with their agents out of the Detroit field office and then, of course, their informants carefully coaxed the suspects from lockdown rallies into let's kidnap Gretchen Whitmer from.
her vacation cottage and either abandon her on Lake Michigan or take her to Wisconsin to face
some sort of tribunal.
I mean, it was just preposterous.
But when you look at all of the contacts between the informants and the FBI agents, and it's
important to know, Justin, the top three FBI agents working out of the Detroit field office
have all been removed from this case.
The lead agent Richard Trask, who signed the initial criminal complaint.
was arrested for assaulting his wife attempting to strangle her after a drunken rage after a swinger's party.
He's been fired by the FBI, which is nearly impossible thing to do.
The other two FBI agents who are handling the top informants also have been removed.
None of them will be testifying for the government in a trial that takes place in Grand Rapids in March 2022.
So this is just part of how this case is imploding.
But of course, it's a very illuminating backdrop.
to what's happening with the prosecution of January 6th.
It is just wild to follow this story, and as you mentioned, that FBI agent.
I'm right here in Grand Rapids, so I'm in the middle of this story as it's unfolding.
And the story that came out about the FBI agent to me was shocking to hear some of the details about
how he allegedly had abused his wife after this party at a hotel with other friends.
folks who are engaged in this alternative lifestyle of swinging, et cetera.
I mean, that's an FBI agent.
That's enough.
How would they not know what's happening with their own agents on one hand?
But then what's even, I think even more concerning is the social media posts that have come
out of from this individual.
That's right.
What he's posted online and what he posted about the president as the president was
still in office from an FBI agent is just mind-blowing.
Well, as I wrote, he's basically Peter Strach without a law degree and a bunch of tattoos.
I mean, this is the same sort of thing we saw from the FBI, top FBI officials that were uncovered in text messages.
Peter Strach and his girlfriend Lisa Page, you know, these people are just, you know, they're cheaters and they're liars.
And they talk smack about people who are going to be their boss or are their boss, including the president of the United States.
I mean, these are low lights.
And when you, I encourage people to look up the video of Richard Trask being arrested.
He's drunk.
They never, of course, make him take a breathalyzer.
He was not charged with drunk driving, even though he obviously was inebriated.
He had no shoes on, no shirt.
He's covered in tattoos.
He's bleeding because he had gotten in this fight with his wife where he bashed your head against a nightstand and tried to strangle.
I mean, this is not anyone who should be in a position of authority, especially contesting a place.
when you now entrap what looks like innocent men so they can once again the
FBI make big announcements, interfere in a presidential election in a key swing state like
Michigan and use these low-life agents and low-life informants that the other informant has now
been charged with two crimes for illegally possessing a firearm and now fraud and he committed
those crimes while he was working as an informant in this caper and unfortunately
Certainly, Justin, this is a reflection of our FBI from top to bottom.
It is a criminal enterprise that is now targeting the American people.
And I don't think it's salvageable.
And if Republicans take over and soon we get a Republican president,
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It is working against it.
So what does that look like?
How does that process?
What's the conversation of accountability?
Because whether you actually, you know, take the whole thing apart,
or you just clean it out all the way down to the, you know, down to the studs.
But what does that look like?
We have to have that conversation.
And what's the tie in with this in January 6th?
If you can stay with us, I definitely appreciate Julie Kelly as a writer.
She's with us, American greatness.com.
We'll be back with this story more in moments.
Justin Barkley, live from Michigan, actually, on the Glenn Beck program and for Glenn today.
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So the case is crumbling.
The defense has moved now to have this case of the Whitmer kidnapping governor here in Michigan.
The kidnapping dismissed in the federal court.
and some of the details behind
because the FBI's involvement,
they say entrapment here in this case.
The details coming out are just shocking.
On with us right now,
talking about what's happening behind the scenes.
Julie Kelly, she's a writer with American Greatness,
and Greatness.com. Welcome back.
Appreciate you hanging with us to talk a little bit more
because there is a connection
between this detail,
what happened here in this case,
the FBI program,
had originated from it and possibly even what happened on January 6th?
That's right.
The Whitmer-Caper originated out of something called Operation Cold Snap, which was launched
by the FBI in the spring of 2020.
The pretext was to infiltrate alleged militia groups who were plotting these anti-lockdown
protests across the country.
So this was how they infiltrated the Wolverine Watchmen, which was nothing more than a Facebook
group that was organized back in November of 2019 just a few months before this whole
paper got underway the FBI agents the two main agents out of the Detroit field office who
were counterterrorism declared the Woolfrey watchman a domestic terror threat and I'm laughing
because it's so preposterous but this then opens up the pathway for them to do whatever
they want, run informants, run undercover agents, surveil, wiretap, et cetera.
And so that's what they did.
Now, they also obviously infiltrated other militia groups.
One of the special agents involved testified that this was going on in other states as well.
And look, Justin, we know the New York Times confirmed this back in September.
At least two informants were infiltrated into the proud boys, another alleged militia group,
who brought no weapons to the Capitol on January 6th.
These people aren't really good at militiaing.
And so they already had two FBI informants infiltrated that group.
They were at the Capitol.
They were actually present at the very first breach outside the Capitol grounds
right before 1 o'clock on January 6th.
We know that there are informants in the three percenters.
Get this.
One of the top informants, Stephen Robeson, who I just referred to,
who has now been charged with two other crimes.
times related to what he did during the Whitmer caper.
He also is the founder of the Wisconsin chapter of the three percenters.
Now, if that doesn't raise all sorts of eyebrows, the fact that most of these militia groups,
the oathkeepers, proud boys, the three percenters, are merely FBI front groups to lure these
people into their various traps.
Then I don't know what is.
Here's another example.
And my friend Darren Beatty keeps bringing this up.
The founder of the oath keepers, one of the other three main militia groups,
Stuart Rhodes is person one in every single indictment related to January 6th.
The oathkeepers now have about 20 defendants charged with conspiracy and other crimes related to January 6th.
He is person one in every single indictment.
we now are almost at the one-year anniversary.
Stuart Rhodes still has not been charged with any crime,
even though he alleged to be the mastermind behind the conspiracy.
He attended all these meetings.
He was leading a lot of the group chats.
But here he is, while you have men who have been in prison under pretrial detention orders
since February and March charged in the oathkeeper's conspiracy case,
Stewart Rhodes doesn't even facing one misdemeanor charge for trespassing or disorderly conduct or anything about Jane Roy 6.
So these militia groups and see how many informants were involved, how many unindicted co-conspirators like Stewart Rhodes if there are.
You really have to wonder, and especially using the Whitmer paper as a backdrop, how much of this has been orchestrated, executed, prompted by the activity of what we know.
know is a highly partisan politically interfering FBI. I mean, this goes back to crossfire
hurricane. Here we are five and a half years later in the FBI still getting involved in domestic
elections and domestic politics. Now, I know you've written Julie Kelly's on with this right now.
She's a writer at AM greatness.com, American Greatness of Blog. But you've actually written a book
about January 6 as well. How Democrats, let's go January 6th, how Democrats, the Capitol
protest, I use the capital protest to launch a war on terror against the political right.
What about some of these things that we continue to see coming out?
Particularly there's a video of a man January 6th that is seen in quite a bit of video.
We keep hearing that we're going to get down to the bottom of this.
We get this, you know, in the House, this January 6th committee.
They're not really interested in looking at it.
because I do believe we ought to know what exactly happened January 6th.
There are some real and serious questions that I have about that day.
Who is this man that is seen in a lot of the videos that is urging people to commit violent action to do certain things that we still don't know much about?
His name is Ray Epps.
He also is associated with the Oathkeepers Group out of Arizona.
he is the man who is seen in downtown Washington, D.C. on the night of January 5th, mixed in with Trump supporters, urging them to go inside the Capitol that day.
His activity was so suspicious that night that a group of them started chanting feds.
I'm seen on video the next day, first directing people who are reading Trump's speech at the ellipse and directing them towards Capitol Hill, where they could get, you know, where they could find Capitol building, obviously.
And then Ray Epps is a man who whispers in the ear of Ryan Samso, the January 6 defendant,
who is technically the first person to breach this really light line of police barricades and four or five just regular capital police officers.
Ryan Samsell breaches that line at about 1255 on January 6th.
The last person he talks to, so why Ray Epps still almost.
a year later, even though him obviously prompting people to go to the Capitol, says something
to Ryan Samsell, who then breaches the first line that day, why he has not been charged.
And, you know, he's been questioned by the media.
Representative Tom Massey confronted Attorney General Mayor Garland during a hearing a few
months ago, played the video of A. EPS and demanded to know why when so many other, we know
700 or so defendants, why so many other people have been charged related to their activity
on January 6th, but here is Ray Epps to go to the Capitol and commit illegal acts why he still
remains uncharged. So at this point, Justin, their question is not who's been charged,
but who has not been charged? Why, if they were so involved in promoting, planning violence
that day, planning the capital, going into the Capitol building, why,
if those people are all charged with crimes, why the people who incited that activity still remain.
Talking with Julie Kelly right now, who's a writer for American greatness.com, the blot AM greatness.com.
And then also the author of January 6th, how Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against the political right.
Julie, a lot of this is we talk about that plot to kidnap the governor here in Michigan that turns out to be some sort of,
of an FBI scam, that connection here to January 6th.
And then one other question I have for you, because we don't hear much about them.
I know Tucker has talked about, I know certain folks have talked about, but the people
that are currently locked up right now who were charged that are in that jail in D.C., the media's
been very quiet about a lot of them.
And we've, what we have heard has come out, some really horrible conditions about, from
some of these folks. Regardless, whether they committed the most heinous act or not, I mean,
they're being treated much worse than somebody like Elaine Maxwell, who apparently, you know,
was guilty of some really horrible things. But these folks, their tale, their story isn't being
told much. What's really going on with some of them? Right. It's just astonishing. We have
political prisoners, at least four dozen held in a special prison in the shadow of the U.S.
Capitol building.
The media knows that they're political prisoners.
The judges who are keeping them there know that they're political prisoners.
The Justice Department knows that they're political prisoners, but they are completely ignored.
Now, it's important to emphasize these are men who have not been charged with any crime.
They are being held under pretrial detention orders.
some of them will be in jail for 18 months before their trial date is even beginning.
For the fact, Justin, that they protested Joe Biden's election on January 6th.
That is a fact.
It has nothing to do with the fact that their threat to their community,
has nothing to do with the fact that their flight risk,
which are the two animating factors when judges consider denying bail to people.
And we have federal judges in Washington, D.C., from Trump appointees to Obama appointees,
to Reagan appointees.
are going along with this Justice Department, the Biden regime's political persecution of innocent
men holding them behind bars, mostly in solitary confinement. They've been physically assaulted.
They are being mentally and emotionally abused. Some of them deprived food. Some of them have been
strip search in an almost sexually exploitive way. And these judges, I'll tell you what, this D.C. District
Court is a national disgrace. It is scary to listen to these.
court hearings to hear what happens in Washington, D.C.
You not only have an FBI actively working against the American people.
You have the entire power center of this great country populated by evil people who want
to punish American citizens because they dare to protest the election of Joe Biden
for a few hours on January 6th.
They are not representative of the goodness and decency of this country.
It has been a lot of.
to say the least for me to follow this for the past year.
But when I say these people, judges, prosecutors, the news media, go down the list,
have nothing but contempt for most of the American people.
That is not an overstatement.
That is my experience, and it's actually quite terrifying to cover it as a journalist.
Is, Julie, is there accountability here?
And I know you mentioned about maybe just doing away with this agency altogether.
I don't know.
What does accountability look like?
I mean, when the Republicans take the House next year, they have to turn this around on the Democrats, just like this January 6th committee is.
They need to start their own special committee.
They need to ask for a special prosecutor, which they won't get, of course, under a Democratic Justice Department.
But they need to hold their own hearings.
They need every single line prosecutor who assign these charges.
They need to bring the judges in.
They need to bring in every FBI agent, including Christopher Ray, and they need to.
to explain to the American people what they did on January 6th, but more importantly, how they are
tormenting, destroying the lives of people who did nothing more than trespass in what they believed
was a public building, some people for less than 10 minutes, and their entire lives had been
destroyed, their families have been destroyed, they've been bankrupted, they've been canceled by their
neighbors, some people by their own churches. I mean, what is happening to these people, while
this DOJ, this FBI, this D.C. District Court, and now this D.C. jail are doing.
This is really the sort of stuff you never believe would happen in America, but it's happening
right in front of our eyes.
Julie, I appreciate you taking the time.
Thank you for writing about this.
Thank you for talking about it and for giving folks a voice that don't have one right now.
January 6th, how Democrats use the capital protest to launch a war on terror against the political right,
Julie Kelly and author of writer at American Greatness, AAMG greatness.com.
Julie, thanks for taking the time to be here with us today.
We appreciate you.
Thanks so much for having me on.
Keep up the fight, the fight for truth, folks, and now accountability in the situation as the truth starts to come.
That's the thing about the light, no matter how much darkness, just the light of a single candle can snuff out the darkness.
That's what they're afraid of.
Now, look, I know there are some folks that did some horrible things on January 6th.
I saw some of it.
But I also saw people that just, you know, grandmothers walked right through, open doors.
I got to tell you, I think this story of what happened that day, I don't know if we'll ever know the truth.
But I think there's much more to what we're being told in the media.
And we need to hear more.
We'll continue to follow it.
Barkley, back in for back.
We continue right after this.
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Well, the news never stops at least in 2020 and 21.
And I have a feeling 22 is going to be much of the same way.
And no matter what, we'll be here to cover it.
We'll be here with the truth.
And hopefully, that leads to some accountability.
And some of these stories that you've heard that are happening,
there are unintended consequences.
and there are intended consequences that need to be addressed,
and we'll make sure that will continue to fight the good fight alongside you and the rest of us.
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