The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn Explains Trump's REAL Goal with Iran Strikes | Guests: Jonathan Conricus & Jack Carr | 3/2/26

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

America launched a coordinated joint attack with Israel on Iran, in an operation known as Operation Epic Fury," which led to the death of the second supreme leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei. Many in the mainstream media were quick to denounce the attacks, and some media outlets quickly began spreading the false story that the attack also hit an elementary school, when in reality it was a failed launch within the Middle East that hit the school. Glenn also brings in his chief researcher, Jason Buttrill, to lay out how America got to this point and what we can expect in the coming months. Retired Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, former Israel Defense Forces spokesperson, joins to give his assessment of the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran. Author of "The Terminal List" book series and executive producer of the TV series of the same name Jack Carr joins to discuss the strikes against Iran from a fiction author's perspective. Glenn lays out what he believes is Trump's true objective in striking Iran and why he believes the strikes were warranted. After a weekend of thought, Glenn gives his four conclusions regarding the U.S.-Israeli strike on Iran.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and I would watch, I would see somebody who was saying, on one side or the other, you're a traitor if you don't believe this. You're a traitor if you don't believe that. And I didn't find that useful at all. So I'm not going to put you in that position where you're a trader if you don't agree with me. I want to answer a few things today for me, but I want to show you how I thought about these things so you can then do your own homework and you can decide. I do not want to convince you one way or another because quite honestly, I don't know how this is going to end.

Nobody does. God does, but I don't. And so I'm not, I don't think we should do anything like this because, yeah, our side, whatever. Okay? I wanted to answer a couple of questions, actually, four of them. One, is this a just war using the just war theory? Does this even fit the category? More importantly, actually, what should be number one is, is this America first? Okay.

then is it a just war? One of my principles is I am not for these forever wars. I don't think this is a good idea. I don't want to get involved in everybody else's business. That ties to the first two. And then the last one, is this a distraction or is this big vision? What is this all about, really? I want to try to answer those four questions.

We also are going to take you to the Middle East with Jack Carr and see if Jack can give us any kind of perspective on what he sees and what happened. Also, I want to talk to the former spokesperson for the IDF because there's some amazing claims coming out. I don't know if they're true or not. I don't know if you heard about the dentists that put tracking devices in some of their teeth. I will tell you this. The United States is not to be messed with.

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There is no place they can't kill you, easily kill you, apparently. We'll talk about that. We're going to start with a kind of a TikTok rundown on what happened this weekend and what is still going on. What are our allies doing? What is the rest of the world doing? What does this mean to China and Russia? We'll talk about that. And let me first tell you about rush tax.

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So Jason, I want to, I want to take us bit by bit. First, let me see if I can take us through kind of a TikTok on what happened. We all found out Saturday. The president was here in West Palm. And all of this was conducted here at Mar-a-Lago. And he gave a speech early in the morning where, he said, we have launched an attack. And we struck 500 plus targets across Iran, including missile sites and command centers.

The Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini, was killed in that air campaign. We didn't find out until later on Saturday. They didn't verify that. But he and 40 leaders in something that should tell you, man, there is no place to hide. we knew exactly where this guy was, the CIA did, and we gave the information to Israel and said, you want to go get that guy, go get that guy. And they bombed precision and it was remarkable what happened.

The other thing that people are talking about is the primary school in southern Iran. It was hit in the attacks and scores of children were killed. That just heightens, you know, the crime, you know, These are war crimes. No, I mean, accidents do happen. There's nobody that is trying to avoid those things. I mean, look at the precision strikes we're making. Do you really think that we actually targeted a school?

I mean, just think this through, gang. What would our motive be for that to be the pariah of the world? I mean, even if we had evil in our hearts and we're like, yeah, and then we're going to kill all the children, you would never do that. You'd never do that openly, especially on the first day. And that's assuming you had evil in their hearts. Our military does not have evil in heart. We're not targeting schools.

This is war. And the way this is being fought is for the very first time in my lifetime. We have a president, and you can disagree with all of this, and the way he's fighting. But we have a president who knows how to carry a very big stick. he is, I have always believed. I was explaining to Ricky today about the fuel air bomb. Fuel air bomb is one of the most devastating things we have. It sprays a mist of fuel over the battlefield.

And then it's lit on fire. And what that does, you know, if you're standing on the battlefield, you look up suddenly and the whole sky is on fire. But what that does is it takes the oxygen out, literally out of the lungs of every soldier on the battlefield. So you suffocate and then burn to death, okay? And I have always felt, I mean, that's such a horrible thing, but I have always felt that metaphorically, that's the way you have to fight war.

If you're going to fight war, there is no such thing as a fair fight. You want to make it as unfair and lopsided as possible. If you're going to do it, overwhelm. And the fastest way to get through war is to have every person on the planet go, take the air out of their lungs. Oh, my gosh, don't ever mess with them. That's how you keep the peace. But you don't keep the peace by intentionally killing children in schoolhouses.

So that's pretty much what happened on Saturday. You want to give me some color and play-by-play here on this, Jason? Yes, so as everyone knows, we've been watching this military buildup for quite a while now. And just to get some context on some of that military buildup, producer Matt, throw this up super quick for everyone to see. This is a breakdown that was done of all the military hardware that was put in theater. It's absolutely insane. What would you consider? By the way, if you're just listen, we'll try to describe it on radio, but today is the day you should have torch.

Glenbeck.com slash torch because we're going to be showing you a lot of stuff that is a little overwhelming when you see it. All right, go ahead. And to put that to even more context, Prusa, Matt, throw this map up there. This shows the firepower of that entire arsenal when in terms of missiles, combat aircraft. It is significant, more than we've seen in a very, very long time. To say that, Jason, is one thing. Do you have? Because I don't think we saw this in Iraq, did we?

We did for the invasion. It's very similar to, at least in terms of air power and naval power. What we're missing here is the ground combat element. I would not be surprised, though, if there is some kind of special forces element that are on the ground. We won't get confirmation of that, I'm sure, but that would not surprise me. May I say, when anybody says we won't have anybody on the ground, just hear this. I find that highly unlikely because if there is nuclear material, we are going to have to get it out. You don't just leave that there.

If there is nuclear material, if there are any kind of missile material that is left, we will have to send ground troops in just to secure it and to get it out of there. Not necessarily to fight, but to secure the nuclear facility. facilities. And hopefully, if there are any centrifuges left to secure all of those and either destroy them or get them out. Go ahead. There's also the matter of just how air to ground combat works, usually, and we saw this the last time when Israel and the United States struck the nuclear targets a few months ago, they had Israeli special forces on the ground picking targets out. I would assume there's something similar to that. But we also, Glenn, I don't know how much time. Do you have a 12-hour

radio show today. There's also the idea of what happens to a lot of these radicals as they try to flee out of the area. My guess is they're probably going to go to Iraq. And that's a whole other discussion of what happens in the fallout. Iraq could become the next Iran. I mean, we may just, I mean, this is why anybody who was definitively saying, this is the greatest thing ever, or definitively saying, this.

is the worst thing ever. They're fools. Do not listen to them. This could be really, really good. This could be really, really bad. What you have to ask is, do you trust the person who is in command of this? For me, and I'll explain this later, I happen to believe the president has earned my trust that he is not a forever war guy. He knows how to handle the military in a very very very, very very effective way and use it quickly, deadly, and get the hell out of there, which is the way I want our military to be used. So I'll get into this later, but he has bought the credibility, at least from me. Maybe not you, but I think you should look at that. That's what you should be looking at.

Does the president have credibility enough? Has he bought enough credibility to at least for you to say, I'm not in the situation room. I don't know all of the information. But I trust this guy has the best intention. If you believe that, then you have to just let go of the outcome for a little while, at least, and say, let him do his job. We hired him to do this job. He, to me, has proven he can do this job.

And it's a much bigger picture. So relax. But also don't write a blank check of support. Because things could go bad and that would mean things have got to change. Remember, we went into Iraq and it was looking really good. And then it got horrible. And they never changed strategy and it turned into that nightmare. So, you know, this could turn into a nightmare, but it also could turn into something good.

Look for the principles and then take it one day at a time. There's no reason to write a check. to support or to be against anything other than right now. What am I feeling right now? How is this going without floating principles? Your principles have to be locked in, but your support does not have to be or your being against does not have to be. That changes with the conditions on the ground, but your principles must never change.

And I'll outline those here in a little while. But let's go back to Jason here. Give me 60 seconds. We'll go back to Jason so you can show us some more of what happened. Relief factor. At some point, your kitchen counter starts looking like a, you know, a supplement aisle. You've got bottles of pills for joint wellness, bottles of pills for inflammation. Bottles of pills for absolutely everything, okay?

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Prusa, throw this map up really quick. So this was the initial attack. As you can see, it was the strike on the Supreme Leader's compound. Now, that was an operational dictate depending on, you know, new information that happened at the time. I don't feel like they wanted to strike at the moment. but they found an opportunity that they really could not pass up. And that was a multitude of large officials meeting at the Supreme Leader's house. So it started there.

But as you can see, some of these other squares that were popping up, these are IRGC locations, command and control type areas within Tehran. Now, this area right here, this little oval is very, very familiar to people that military analysts have been watching this for a while. This is one of the most heavily guarded areas in the world. If it's not named Moscow or Beijing, these, and we can go into the actual military hardware and equipment later, if you want. But all of these areas really should not, they were deemed unable to be hit by a lot of

people in the world, and for good reason, because they were heavily fortified. But the attack started there. But I want to show you this map. And this is from the New York Times. This was where the entire operation expanded to. Targets all over Iran. And I want to show you these are basically... I believe twice the size of Texas, is it not?

I mean, it's a massive landmass. Massive landmass. And that's a lot of areas that have hidden missile bunkers, places that the regime can use to counterattack, hit places like Israel, hit places like the Straits of Hormuz, our Navy. And on that point, I want to give this context because we will not hear this from the mainstream media. I want to show you, producer Matt, throw this back up really quick.

This is the southern area where that school was reportedly hit. And I don't know the situation of everything's surrounded there, whether it was a mistake, whether some of this is propaganda. I don't know. But look at the location of where that's at. That's kind of a strategic area if you want to know why that area is being targeted in multiple different spots. That's right at the straight of our moves. Yeah, that's where you choke it off. That's where the military, our military is sinking their Navy right now.

Yesterday, Trump said they sunk nine ships. They have dozens of ships. And you really have to sink them all. But that is exactly at the point where that is on the edge and the coast there. That is the place where you would lay mines. And I know we are going after their ships in that area. and we are also looking for the smaller boats that are laying mines. So there's a lot of activity most likely happening right there on both sides.

100%. And where the operation is right now is the United States and Israel are attempting to gain air superiority over the entire battle space. They're also trying to attempt to knock out their ability to respond to other countries within the Middle East, to Israel or to our bases. So that is going to happen for a while, I would say at least one to two weeks. I do not think you will see any ground element. And when I say ground element, I mean protesters out in the streets that are starting to take over and rebel against the Iranian regime. Although we did see some of that this weekend. They preemptively came out and they were cheering for the death of the Supreme Leader. But I do not think you'll see them come out until that initial phase happened.

So I'm saying maybe as soon as next week, maybe two weeks from now. that's when the air superiority portion will be complete, and that's when they'll move on to phase two. And that's what I'm starting people come out. I will tell you that's where the president said over the weekend, stay inside your houses. It's very, very dangerous. Do not go outside.

It's too dangerous right now. He hasn't really, he has said, this is going to be up to you. And thank God, we're not going to nation build. I will go against this thing so fast if we start nation building. we don't nation build. That's for them to do. You can give people the opportunity to open the door of freedom, but you can't force them to walk through it. It's up to them to do it. And that will be coming, I think, in the next few days. Also, I want to talk to Jason about what does this mean with Russia and China far as their defense systems failed again? All right. First, simply safe. If you're like

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No safe. Like, simply safe. Do you think the U.S. strikes on Iran's regime were America first? Torch insiders can vote in this poll now. Get your voice heard only at blenbeck.com slash torch. Jason, you have any more charts to show us here? So I've got what it took in the Venezuela compound, and it's really interesting when you think about what the kind of hardware

that was used to harden Venezuela and Maduro. versus later an upgraded version of that for Iran. I want you to take a look at this. Producer Matt, throw this up really quick. So this is... I think this goes to my point on, you know, a bigger vision. What is Trump's bigger vision? And that is crank.

China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, crank. And when you understand his bigger vision of building a more peaceful, robust, West and reducing the power of crink, this strike over the weekend really makes an impact. And this is just one of the impacts. Shown what happened in North Korea, then how they upgraded everything in Iran and how well that worked. I think you've got Venezuela, not North Korea, but in Venezuela, sorry, yeah, Venezuela. So this is, so in Venezuela, they had multiple, so we were just talking about this, the insiders and I were about this is one of those areas

that was considered. Proostram, I'll throw that back up really quick. This is one of those areas that was supposed to be so hardened that it was basically untouchable. Now, they did this, the Venezuelans, they hardened it. It's a surgical strike. It's not a shock and all. We're just taking out everything. It's very specific. Now, they did

this, or the Venezuelans tried to repel something like this, with Chinese, a serviced Arab missile system called the HQ 9 and the Russian S-300 system. Now, they're specifically designed to thwart stealth technology. That's the entire reason that you get them is because of that. Well, that was proven ineffective. So the Iranians, what they decided to do was,

and I'll throw this back up again, was to harden this unhittable area with upgraded versions of what was in Venezuela. So they got the HQ 9B from China. They got the S-400 system from the Russians. these were supposedly designed to go after stealth aircraft and to make their area the hardened of hard areas to where you cannot do anything about. Well, now we have seen both models of that. And this stuff is, it's being sold and used all over the world as completely ineffective. Completely ineffective. So now everybody all across the world is wondering what an actual guarantee of safety from nations like China and Russia. What the heck does that even mean this morning?

Pretty much nothing. I think that's why you are seeing the typical fence sitters. The people who are friends, but not friends. And they kind of play, India is one of them. They kind of play the middle ground. They play us off of Russia, et cetera, et cetera. I think just militarily speaking, and there's a lot of other reasons for it, but just militarily speaking, we have, through Donald Trump and his use of

military and Pete Hegseth and the way he has put this together with our joint chiefs of staff, they have demonstrated the U.S. military has prowess over the rest of the world, unlike anything. I think we have had, well, since World War II, and I think we might have been, we are more ahead than we were in World War II from the rest of the world. The only thing that put us way ahead was a nuclear weapon. We had to use that twice, and that was just so dead. that's not what's putting us ahead, not some big deadly weapon, although we may have one of those. It's the way we're skirting around everyone else's technology that is making us a mofo.

And the world is figuring that out. And that's got to be freaking the people in Russia and China out just for the sales. Imagine being a rep that is going to these big. defense seminars and these big conventions where people are selling, you know, national defense. And imagine the U.S. booth and then the China and Russia booth that is selling all the stuff we've just defeated in two different places. I mean, spectacularly defeated. I don't think we need anything except just a little screen behind us showing what has happened, you know, in Venezuela and Iran, can you imagine trying to sell that stuff against us?

I mean, there's no guarantee of any of that, any of that. I want to take you through this list. Thank you, Jason. I want to take you through this list of things that I went through this weekend. You know, is this America first? Is this a just war? Is this part of a bigger strategy? What do we have to look out for if things go well?

And what do we have to look out for if things go horribly? And, you know, the things that, even if it goes well, we saw what's going to happen. We're going to have things like we had in Austin yesterday, a shooter, who was just a crazy man, but, you know, he gave his life to Allah and enjoy those virgins, buddy, enjoy those virgins. But he gave his life for Allah and killed three people yesterday in Austin, Texas. Those people are here, and we have to have a conversation with that. We also need to see, you know, what's happening with our own Congress.

You know, Congress has shut off the funding for the Department of Homeland Security. That means TSA. It means lines are going to get longer. it means that scanning will go down. There will be holes in the system because we're not paying the people. And if they don't show up, they don't show up because they're having to work for free. And I don't know if you've noticed this, but those aren't the rich people in our, in our society.

The people who are working there are clearly being paid a livable wage and that's about it. And for them to work without income is asking an awful lot. But what are you going to do? do the Democrats don't want to fund it. The Democrats should the first thing they should do when they return to town, I think on Wednesday, they're not even working today. When they when they return to town, the first thing they should do is fund the Department of Homeland Security because agree or disagree with a war. This is going to make us very vulnerable and we need all hands on deck right now. By the way, it also defunds the Coast Guard. So don't worry, but nothing comes nothing comes

in on our beaches, nothing at all. But let me take you through one thing of this long list of mine, and that is, what does a win look like? Because that's where you have to start. You don't take any action unless you say, okay, well, what does it look like? We do all this stuff. Before we even start planning it, before I ask any other questions, what does it look like in the end if we win? I don't have a grandiose version of what it's, looks like if we win. I mean, I guess I guess I do in some ways. It's stable and free and supports the West. Okay, that would be nice. If it returned to, you know, the Iran of 1975 and it was stable and Western and the intellectuals were there and it became a powerhouse. That would be utopia.

Be great. That's not, I'm not expecting that. I'm not expecting that. I would settle for a couple of things. And I've got three different versions of what a win looks like. Best, better, or, yeah, best, better, best. Right? No, I don't remember. How is that, how is that phrase? Do you know what I'm talking about? Good.

Greatest? Maybe, I don't remember. Anyway, here's the greatest. That it would be stable, it would free, and it would be Western, and they would be our allies, and they'd start to rebuild themselves. We're not there rebuilding it. And they unleash this pent-up intellectual power, and they become the Persian people and the Iranian people that they've always been without the oppression. Okay, that would be great.

But I will take a stable and more free, non-hostile. But what each of these must include when I say, what does a wind look like? No nuclear program. None. period. We take all of the cascading, what do you call those things, where there's enriching uranium. I just talked about it a minute ago. We take and we get rid of those and we destroy them.

Okay. So they cannot enrich uranium. We take away all of their ability to produce missiles and enrich uranium and make a bomb. That is, if we can't get that in the end, then we've completely lost. No nukes. This is still in my the best version. Stable, free, non-hostile, no nuke capability, no oil to China, no drones to Russia, and no terror proxies. That's, I would walk away going, wow, what a success. It's stable, it's free or free-ish, maybe not America, but in their own interpretation of that, It's standing on its own two feet.

No oil to China, no drones to Russia, no nukes, no terror proxies. That's an absolute slam dunk. But I would take stable and more free, but still in an Islamic state, I guess if we have to, but no nuclear program and reduced terror proxies. But all of this also has to happen. with something else. And this was Donald Trump's bigger vision, I think. This is why, you know, when I was looking into, is this a just war and looking at the just war theory, you have to have a plan of success and peace. And part, so that's what has to happen in Iran. But you also have to have

a more united Middle East. Donald Trump, you remember when he, you know, put his thing out with all the hotels and the golf courses and you're like, you're going to make a Trump resort out of Gaza? What do you? That wasn't about that. What that was was to show the Middle East. Look, you can either keep bombing. You can either keep fighting. You can either keep pouring money and lives down the drain.

Or we can show you how to make this very, very prosperous. And we don't even really have to show you. You've already done it. You've done it in, you know, the UAE. You've done it in Dubai. You've done it in Saudi Arabia. You know how to be prosperous. And what happens?

When your country is prosperous, it's prosperous because it's stable. If you make this a stable region, Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, all of you, all of you can actually be wealthy and prosperous. And your people can get out of this cycle of death. Adding Iran to that and actually having this coalition actually hold together. is a huge, huge win. Okay. You also will still have, you'll still have Qatar. I don't care what anybody says.

Qatar is not our friend. And soon, within I predict within six to eight months, you're going to see some stuff come out about Qatar that will make that so clear. Anybody who is trying to tell you now Qatar is good. You won't have to worry about them because it, It's going to be so clear to every American how bad Qatar actually is to us here in America. But you'll have Qatar, Iraq, that's going to be real trouble. But hopefully a win looks to me that you have now made this more united Middle East to where they're policing their own area.

We don't have to be the policeman. It's not us. And we're not nation building. That's, to me, that's a win. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it can't involve nukes. We have to reduce the terror proxies, and we also have to unite the Middle East enough to where they're taking care of and policing their own area so we don't have to. Because I don't want to be there for more than a few weeks. And I don't want any troops on the ground, and I don't want a nation build.

That's not America first. This would be America first, which goes. to answer that second question, is this America first? Yes, for these reasons and others as well. And I want to play that out for you coming up in just a few minutes. So standby first, let me tell you about rapid radios.

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He is saying no nukes and stop killing your people. He's not saying you can't be an Islamic country. And so when I say for me, it would be perfect to have them, you know, adopt the American Bill of Rights and everybody has the Bill of Rights. But we're the only country with the Bill of Rights in the world that has that. So I don't expect them to adopt all of our freedoms. However, I think it's unacceptable to at least to claim a win if you can still be killed because you're homosexual. You're killed because you're a Christian.

You're killed because you wouldn't wear the burqa. That's not a win. That's not a win. If they go back to that, that's not a win. So that's what I mean by more free. I don't expect them to be America. I would love them to be free like they used to be free before this nightmare started. But I don't know what the odds are.

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I thought we were taking marching orders from Israel. And then I heard today that Saudi Arabia was the one who finally convinced Donald Trump to go in and conduct this. He was the one who said, please, just go in. I'm not going to support you publicly at front, but go in and do it. And so I guess we're taking, wow, we're taking marching orders from Saudi Arabia. Or is it Israel? Or does the president have a mind of his own? and sometimes things line up.

We're going to tell you how this happened and some of the amazing things that are going on and also some of the things we should be paying attention to and worried about because there are, you know, this, even no matter how well this goes, you still have millions of people that are like 12ers that believe they have to wash the world in blood to be able to hasten the return of the promised one

and usher in the end times. I mean, they're scary, scary religious zealots. And there are millions of them that believe this. So this is not an easy thing. And I don't want to try to convince you one way or another. I just want you to use critical thinking and principles and say, this is where we're at today. Is this right?

Is this wrong? And not marry into, I'm not going to tell you that this is the greatest thing ever. and this is, you know, you know what? This is going to work out fine because I have no idea. I hope it does, and I trust the leaders. But I'm not writing anybody a blank check on this, nor should you. All right, we're going to talk to a former Israeli defense force spokesperson on some of the things that happened this weekend, what it all means,

and some of the technology that I'm hearing we have or Israel has that we used because, again, it was almost like Venezuela, all of their defenses failed. What is going on? And how did we know exactly where the 40 leaders were going to be when some of them came to the table blindfolded because the Ayatollah was so freaked out about leaks that he wanted everybody to show up blindfolded?

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really enjoyed the intro music first time i hear it it is impressive and now to uh two more serious matters i just came out of a bomb shelter a few hours ago so it's a very you know real environment here we are at war again my take is as follows i am very happy we're doing this together the u.s and israel i think it is much better that we are attacking the Iranian regime together, that is more than twice the firepower, the intel and the coordination. And I think that's a very positive thing,

and I think that's a stabilizing factor. That's one. Two, initial success quite high in terms of personnel. You touched on it in the intro, almost the entire command, and most of the defense establishment senior figureheads in Iran. were wiped out, including the Supreme Leader himself, which was quite an establishment and really positive thing.

Three, we are on our third day of the war, and yes, we've been down in shelters many times and countless alarms. We've had 11 civilians killed, but when I compare that to June 25, the previous round with Iran, I can see that the Iranians are firing less missiles and they're struggling to deliver in, and we are surprised with the amount that they're actually getting away. We anticipated more. And that could be because they're either, you know, calculating and trying to run, you know, an economic number here and not to run out of missiles, or that they're simply not able to

because U.S. and Israeli planes are taking out the missile launchers. Whatever the reason, it's a relatively positive thing. Four, last thing, this is widening, and the Iranian regime is escalating, and it is now regional. Iran has fired more than 500 ballistic, sorry, more than 150 ballistic missiles at the United Arab Emirates, dozens at Saudi Arabia, including oil facilities, at Qatar, at Kutal, at Kual. Kuwait, at Bahrain, at Jordan, at Cyprus, an EU country. So Iran is lashing out, and they're doing it sooner than what I thought they would, which I interpret as a sign of despair and perhaps panic.

And when your enemy is panicking, that's usually an indication that good things are happening, which tells me really floor it and keep the pressure on. and that is how we will achieve the goals of this operation. How much did the Mossad infiltrate the regime? And there's claims, and I don't know if they're true, but claims going around this weekend that Mossad agents were posing as dentists and they were implanting miniature. Is that any truth to that?

You know, after the beeper operation, I read that tweet. Yeah, I read the tweet a few day and a half ago, and I chuckled at it. But, I mean, after the beeper operation, nothing seems outlandish anymore because of how high-tech and, you know, James Bondi, the beeper operation was. And then people, you know, can think that it's, it's reasonable that the, that the Mossad was able to infiltrate to such an extent. I actually checked when I read it with a friend in the Mossad, and he chuckled well. And they said, you know, that's a nice idea. We'll cultivate that for the future for the next enemy. But I don't think that's the case.

I heard that the CIA was the one that gave the coordinates to your airplanes, because it was your airplanes that actually took out the Ayatollah. The thing I walk away with is there, you know, the people who say, I'm going to go off grid because I've always thought that. well, I'll just go off grid. There is no off grid anymore. If we want to find you and kill you, we will find you and kill you.

That's not a good thing, but that's true. No, it's a great thing. If you're a person who wants. Yes. As long as it doesn't fall into the wrong hands, it's a great thing. But the issue here is, you know, the compounded effects of the two intelligence agencies,

CIA and Mossad, coupled with visual intelligence from ID, and from various US satellites and other visual assets. And then the X factor is personnel on the ground, the human component, human intelligence and agents. And I can say that the Mossad has spent a lot of years investing in building infrastructure on the ground, networks and people that they have recruited, who are providing the real X factor, the real golden nugget in the specific time that it's needed. And I understand that this is what made it all possible here.

It's a fusion of American Intel and Israeli Intel and then delivered this case specifically Israeli plane or Israeli pilots flying American planes, American-made planes, but Israeli planes, and delivering those weapons at the time that they were supposed to be delivered and the location. And I think it's a very good example of how intel and targeting and counterterrorism is supposed to be done. So there's a couple of things that I've heard for the last 25 years, and I'm sick of hearing it. One, they had weapons of mass destruction. And that's why we had to go in right now because they have weapons of mass destruction. When you show me the pictures, I'll believe the weapons of mass destruction thing.

You know, I do know that they would use them. I do know they were enriching uranium. but I have heard we are days away for 25 years. So, you know, I'll believe it when I see it. The second thing that I've heard is we'll be welcomed as liberators. Now people are saying we don't have any information at all about what the people on the ground want. Well, I find it hard to believe that we can track the leadership and we know where everybody is, but we have no clue as to what people want.

This can, we cannot, this can't turn into Iran or Afghanistan. the people have to take it at some point and build their own nation. We're not nation building. Any idea, the likelihood of the people standing up and being able to take this into a peaceful direction? I think your skepticism of government issued information is well in place and deserved. looking at Iran and with the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan, I think we're starting in a good location because the president has said, and so has the prime minister, that this isn't about, you know, repeating mistakes of the past. And it's very clear that the future of Iran will be determined by the Iranian people.

But also equally clear is that we've had tens of millions of Iranians marching on the street in various cities of Iran, calling for the demise of the dictator. Death to the dictator was the most popular chant and trying to get free from the tyranny of that dictatorship. Unfortunately, they were gone down brutally, as the president also mentioned, more than 32,000 were murdered by the regime. yet they continue to go out in numbers and only a week and a half ago we had dozens of protests around the country in different universities again facing mortal danger

but they were still out on the street so I think that there's authentic will by Iranians by tens of millions of Iranians granted there are people in Iran who are die-hard regime supporters who are religious fundamentalists who are people who want and believe that the regime is how they want their country to be governed. I don't think anybody can tell us and give you an empiric number of how many they are

versus how many freedom or revolutionary Iranians there are. But it looks as if the people who want change are the overwhelming and vast majority. But time will have to tell. But at the end of the day, you know, there won't be American boots on the ground, definitely won't be Israeli boots on the ground. There might be Israeli agents behind, you know, Mossad, et cetera, and maybe CIA. But in terms of, you know, doing things that like happened in Iraq, I don't think we're in that situation at all.

And I'm happy that that isn't the scenario. Bottom line, Iranian people will have to move forward and they will have to chart the future. If you ask me honestly, is it going to be benign and peaceful? I doubt it because the Iranian regime has spent significant efforts at cementing their control over the Iranian people and building very robust, oppressive infrastructure. By the way, some of that infrastructure is now being unraveled by Israeli airplanes. That is, we're bombing those headquarters, the Basij, IRGC, internal police and the so-called judiciary. and they're being targeted as we speak. And the objective here is to pave the way.

But change will only come. The regime will only fall if the Iranian people rises up and seizes the opportunity. Very much like what the president said. Are you seeing difference? You know, the one thing that is different now between Iraq and Afghanistan is we went in with this utopian view. And I don't think there was a real plan for how peace was really going to work and without us. And this time, it seems as though Trump started even in his last term with the, you know, the Abraham Accords and the, you know, Council of Peace and everything else that he's been doing. It seems as though he's tried to knit together a coalition of nations that are not necessarily run by us, but by them, he looks like he's tried to convince people.

look, you can be prosperous and safe and it'll change your world for the better. And they seem to be, you know, making friends with Israel and wanting to coexist, et cetera, et cetera. Is it different in the Middle East with Saudi Arabia and Egypt and UAE and everybody else? Is this different than it has been in the past? I would say so. And I think that the region, the various Arab and Muslim, leaders and people are responding to President Trump leadership and his style of leadership. I think it resonates and it's clear.

It's relatable, understandable for people in the area and they get what he's saying and they get what he's doing. It's not, you know, fancy words and lofty statements and a lot of stuff, you know, about democracy and values, etc. It's very clear. The man says exactly what he means. then he usually follows up with action that is correspondent with what he said he would do. And that's relatable. People here in the Middle East understand, I think. And you could see that countries, leaders and organizations, they align with that.

So it's still early days, you know, when you look at the big picture in the region under now President Trump, where would the Board of Peace go and what would the situation in Gaza be. but I think that the move here is, it looks to be, you know, like legacy defining for the president. And I think that it's a very bold move, very bold move by the president to put his legacy on the line and say, I'm going to go for it. I'm going to go for making sure once and for all that Iran won't have nuclear weapons, that they're not going to be a regional menace, they're not going to be a future threat to America. Currently, they're a threat to American interest in the region. the future they could become a threat to domestic the u to to continental the u.s and he's uh stopping that on his

watch so it's a it's a very brave move thank you very much jonathan i appreciate it god bless you thank you thank you retired lieutenant colonel jonathan connorica so we have jack carr coming up in just a second he's going to take a look from uh special operations and a guy who writes this kind of stuff as as fiction. I always found fiction writers to be the best people to talk about on how things are going to end because truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has got to make sense. It's got to make sense. Sometimes truth doesn't make sense.

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conversation here and Jason I would ask you the same thing you learn anything from that last conversation with Conriquez I thought he was a little too coy on the dentist question I thought he was I thought he was saying clearly no no but you know why not why not let people believe Jason what did you get from that yeah I don't I actually absolutely think that Colonel Cornel Ricas is still tapped in to a lot of different areas. I don't think they're going to give away too much of what they did or didn't do in that. But I'm sure it's a lot and it's still happening. Yeah.

Yeah. It has to be because there's a lot of other bad guys that are going to have to go down. Operation Epic Fury. It is day three. We're going to continue our conversation with Jack Carr here in just a few minutes. And then I want to take you through Just War. or is this America first, crank, what to worry about, all of that.

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He's also the executive producer of that series on TV. If you've never watched you, you've never read the terminal list you need to. But he is also the author of a book, a nonfiction book called Targeted, route. And he came out with this and this is really kind of the genesis of how all of the, how we got here. And I wanted to talk to Jack about, you know, the operation that happened this weekend and is still going on. Donald Trump just said the big wave is yet to come in war with Iran.

What he thinks about what's happening, you know, what the things that happened maybe this weekend that the average person might have missed and also ask him as a fiction writer the most likely way this ends. But first, let me talk to him about, you know, the setup. Why is this happening? You know, if you look at targeted Beirut, Jack, explain this situation in that context. Well, Beirut really was, in our response to what happened in Beirut in 1983, was so pivotal to everything that was going to happen afterward, meaning we had an attack on our embassy in April of 1983, killed 63 people, 17 Americans, and then that led to the October bombing of the barracks and headquarters building of our Marines there who were there as peacekeepers that killed 241 servicemen.

Now, it taught Iran a couple of things in particular. It taught them, one, that terrorism works, and two, that it works even better through proxies. Because in the aftermath of that event, the Reagan administration did a lot of tough talk, but then in early 1984, they left the region. So that taught not just Iran, and not just the region, really, but the world that terrorism worked. So how did we respond it differently back then? The history moving forward from 1983 would have been vastly different because there is a direct line between that and September 11, 2001.

But I was not surprised to wake up on Saturday morning to a host of text messages, letting me know that military operations had started against Iran. And my first thought was really one of sadness. Well, it wasn't unexpected, of course, because the maximum pressure campaign against Iran was really never going to work because the three things that were non-negotiable, Iran acquiring nuclear weapons, the ballistic missile program, and their support of terrorist organizations through proxies, any acquiescence to any of those would make the regime look weak. and they've really been in power since 1979 through coercion, fear, threat of violence, and actual violence on any protests.

And we saw that most recently here in January. So it made me sad because diplomacy had failed. Also, covert action had failed. So any covert action we'd attempted over the last year or through previous administrations over the past decades, that has failed also. And now we're in a full-scale military engagement with Iran. So, you know, I saw these people, and I would love it if, you know, if we could have all come to the negotiating table and work something out. But I saw people say, you've got to give negotiation a chance.

49 years, Jack. Right. And it's the, you know, the exact definition of insanity. Follow me. Jimmy Carter said this can't stand. They got to stop. Ronald Reagan said they got to stop. This can't stand.

H.W. Bush, they can't. It's got to stop. We got to get to the negotiating table. Clinton said that. W. Bush said that. Obama said that. Trump said that in the first term. Biden said that. I mean, at some point, you're like, this is insane. We've tried giving them billions of dollars. We've tried holding money back. We've tried carrots and sticks and nothing works. It's just that this president is the first one to say, I'm not kicking the can down to the next president. It's over.

Exactly. So each of those administrations from both parties have had the, same red line. They've had the same policy, pillar of our foreign policy in regards to Iran, the same one. They just had different ways of dealing with it, and none of them effective. Some of them actually helped Iran get either more powerful or gave them more options when it came to building up these different weapons programs to crushing any popular uprising or protests. So I'm not surprised that we got to this point. And we should have learned from Al Qaeda when someone declares war on you. Pay attention.

Al Qaeda did it in 1996, 1998, attacked the USS Cole, of course. And none of those things made us treat that terrorist organization as anything other than essentially a criminal enterprise. And only after September 11, 2001, our hand was essentially forced. treated as a military problem. When people declare war on you and tell you that they want to destroy you, you probably don't want that person to have a nuclear weapon or to have options that can lead to your demise. So, you know, you look at everything that has been going on and, you know, everybody's trying to make it about they were close to a nuclear weapon. I've heard that for 30 years. I'll believe it when I see that. I think this is, I think, I think,

that this is much bigger than that. This is about Trump redesigning the entire world and going after Kring to take the eye. You know, there is no I in team. Well, the Axis team is Kringk and he's taking the eye out of that, which hurts oil for China, hurts money through with the oil for Russia. Also, you know, they've been, Iran's been giving them all the drones, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, it really starts to break, crank apart. And I think this is much, I think to look at this just as Iran, I think is you'll never

understand why we did this. Do you believe that's true or am I wrong? Oh, I think you're 100% sure. And I've been up before dawn on shows and the last couple of days just been going all day. So I haven't been able to to look at or listen to or read your announcement. So I was really excited to hear your analysis of what's been going on. But you're absolutely right with China buying so much oil from Iran, getting around sanctions from the United States from other allied countries. And then there's this $400 billion investment that China has in Iran.

And part of that is technological, meaning they are sharing at, well, selling the apparatus by which they control their populace in China to the Iranians. and that's really been propping up this regime. So without that in play, and it really allows us now, well, we'll see how this plays out, but to focus on the Pacific, on China, on Taiwan, on the semiconductors that are built in Taiwan, and then the Russian side as well. So you're exactly right. This is not just about Iran. I would be surprised if we read something in the future where someone makes that argument.

down the line because right out of the gate here, I'm not seeing that. This is definitely a reshuffling of the world order and really putting Russia and China on, on, we'll bring them into this, into this fold, realigning some of these alliances and allowing us to focus on Russia, China, and Iran, not just the Middle East as we have for the previous 25 plus years. Jack, we've talked to each other for years and I've always loved talking to fiction writers because you can be honest, you're not playing politics, you have to come up with a scenario that in the end may be more believable than actual reality, because fiction has got to make sense. And so you look at things and you're like, what makes the most sense? What is most likely to happen if this, this and this

habit? Have you had time to noodle this on what is the most likely outcome of all of this? I have. And it really becomes that a cope is not a course of Hope is not a good strategy. And what we're seeing right now, and I'm going to be very curious as to how this plays out in the weeks, months, and even years ahead, is that if this is a decapitation, a regime decapitation, if this is a regime alteration or the hope of a regime alteration that brings Iran into the U.S. camp and away from the China and Russia camp, if we had or the Israelis had or some other entity had a primary, a secondary, a tertiary, person that we've been back channeling with who has the support of the military, who can purge that military and intelligence apparatus of those loyal to the regime and bring then Iran into the U.S. camp. I would think we've done that, and I would think that we've learned from the past 20 years

in Afghanistan and all our years in Iraq, because we have people in the administration who fought at the tactical level in those countries. But, once again, I don't know. And like you, we've heard so much about regime change and weapons of mass destruction and all of these things. So I'll be very curious to know what lessons they took from Iraq and Afghanistan and applied to this present problem set. So is there someone waiting in the wings that is going to bring Iran into the U.S. camp or not? Or are they just hoping that someone's going to step up? I'm very curious as to that.

You know, we have defunded, the Democrats have defunded DHS. That means TSA. TSA, I think, ran out of money this weekend. That means the Coast Guard. And, you know, I can't imagine if I were in Congress, I don't care if I agreed with this war or disagreed with this war. I would be worried that we were going to be hit internally because we have so many people inside. You know, we already saw the crazy guy, you know, wearing the, you know, owned by Allah t-shirt. and the Iranian flag underneath, that shirt.

We saw shooters because of this action up in Canada over the weekend. How likely is it, what should we be preparing for here in the mainland? Because honestly, Jack, I have to tell you, I could come up with a thousand scenarios that about 25 people could do that would put us on our knees within a week, and I'm shocked that nobody has done them. I know. How, how, why hasn't that happened and how, how likely is it to now happen because of stuff like this?

Well, it is, it certainly takes the attention of people out there that are just looking for a reason to lash out. So there's, there's different categories here. But the sleeper cells are the ones that we typically talk about. And that's certainly possible, especially with the wide open borders of the previous years. So we have that to think about, something that's really. really thought through that hits multiple targets at any given time across the United States. Or you have that lone wolf type person that's radicalized online. Like maybe like we saw with a Charlie Kirk or someone who wants to lash out and it's been made

acceptable for them to do so because of the insane rhetoric that's floating around out there on these platforms that really democratized free speech, meaning you don't have to invest anything in what you say anymore. you can just say it or a bot can say it or an algorithm can feed it to you. So we're in a very dangerous time. You have to invest nothing in order to destroy or degrade what was once an extremely proud country, the United States of America. So I don't have a good answer on that front. It just makes me sad for the future, but these platforms are tools and any tool is a weapon.

So I would definitely say that we need to remain vigilant, but not just because of what's happening. Iran, these things can happen at any given time for any reason. So people really need to take responsibility for really their own protection and out of their families. Somebody said on TV, you know, they had enough material to make a dirty nuke and get it into the U.S. How difficult is that? Not as difficult as one would think because it's really just a normal explosive that one can can make with material on the open market and that's just placed near

whether it's nuclear debris waste there's all sorts of ways to do it at all sorts of different scale so at that end but you probably kill more people in a bunch of other different ways

that one just really uses the imagination of the public yeah yeah Jack thank you appreciate it God bless you we'll talk again You do. You bet. Take care.

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I mean, I don't understand where you stand. I'm going to explain my stance. You know, Jack said, I've been, you know, I've been waiting to hear your stance on this. I'll give it to you next hour. I have been studying, praying, and thinking about what I need to do as my job. What is my job today to tell you? And I thought over and over this weekend, personally, Glenn Beck, are you for this? Here's how I begin to answer this.

All weekend, I thought, dear God, I am glad I am not the President of the United States. Because I know the threat that Iran poses to the world. And it's none of this nuclear crap. I mean, yes, that's a threat, and I believe that could happen at some point, but I don't believe that, you know, I've heard that they've been on the verge of that forever. So I just dismiss that. But I know the threat that they are. I truly believe these 12ers are the army of the Antichrist. I really believe that.

They are dangerous, dangerous people. But I also know the huge risk that taking them on directly to Europe, to us in the homeland, to the Middle East what that could cause and I thought I if I were president I would do what every other president did and that is kick the can down the road at some point somebody has to say sorry I'm not going to do that anymore because we keep getting the same results and that's the definition of insanity this guy has just had the guts to do it now why is it arrogance I don't think so And I'll explain how I made my decision. So maybe it can help you with critical thinking and why he has the guts to do it.

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All right. I have to tell you, I come to you today. and I want you to hear me clearly. I am not trying to sell you on anything. I have been down this road so many times over the last 30 years, and I have seen things that I absolutely believed were happening that were not. I think we have been betrayed by our government over and over again, and I believe too many people I shouldn't have.

I started this weekend with why would I give my trust to Donald Trump? Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016. Donald Trump did not do this in 2016, but Donald Trump ran and said, no more of these wars. Okay, so I want to get into that here in a second. But when I say Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016, Donald Trump came in and he just kind of, you know, he's got such a good gut on him. He was like shooting from the gut. And you're like, I want to do this and I'm

going to do that. What Donald Trump has done in the last year has been remarkably coordinated and consistent. Now, you may not agree with it, and that's fine. You may not like it. And that's fine. But you should understand it before you make a judgment on it. And I have, it's my job to try to figure out what the hell is happening and then tell you my opinion on it. I'm not going to give you, well, I guess I will give you my opinion because I'm going to show you how I thought of this, but I don't want to give you my opinion so you follow my opinion. That's not my goal. My goal is to help you think this through because we all, you cannot just glob on to somebody else's opinion. You're going to get lost. If you do that, you're going to, if you do that and you do this about feelings or

winning or my team versus their team, you're going to get lost and you cannot afford to get lost. So let me start with principle number one. Can you hate war and still fight one? Yes. And in fact, I believe that is the only moral way to fight a war. I despise war. But this must be done. There is a difference between loving war and accepting that sometimes,

you have to fight a war. And I'm not saying this is one of those times. I'm just explaining, can you hate war and fight one? Yes, a surgeon does not have to love the knife or cutting people up, but he does it because he has to. A nation doesn't love war. If it does, it has already become something dark and evil.

But a nation that refuses to act when evil calcifies into permanence is not peaceful. That doesn't make you peaceful. that makes you negligent. So yes, being pro-peace and being willing to fight can coexist. In fact, I believe they must. And I saw that everywhere. I thought you were pro-peace.

I thought you were against war. I am. I am. Can we be adults and have an adult conversation? The deeper question is not are you for war? The question is, what kind of peace are you trying to? to secure. And there are, there are places where you go, I'm going to accept that piece. And maybe

this for you is one of those places. But you can't jump to conclusions. Instead of just reacting, like I saw everybody on TV this weekend reacting, can we think like an adult for a second? First, what is the objective? This kind of goes into the just war theory. And I spent a lot of time on the just war theory. I want to know, is this just? Is this right? When do we have to step in and when do we not? Why do we step in here and not in Sudan? Okay. First, is the objective conquest? No. Is it regime change? Not sure. Is it humiliation? No. Is the objective the removal of a destabilizing terror-sponsored nuclear-seeking command structure that has choked its own people and threatened an entire region.

Yes, I believe that's it, but not only that. And that's really important. If the aim is limited and strategic, disable the head of the system that fuels regional chaos, then it is categorically different from marching divisions into a country to rebuild that country in our image. Iraq was nation building, okay? This appears at this point to be decapitation and deterrence.

You'll notice that he has not dictated that this will not be an Islamic state. Did you notice that? This is not the same as Iraq. I'm not saying it's better or that you have to agree with it. I'm just, please understand, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to help you think it through. And I imagine there's going to be a lot of people that disagree with me. And that's okay.

My job is to help you think it through. not agree with me. Second thing, was peace attempted first? This one matters enormously. You can't just rush into war. And in the past, we have rushed into military action without creating a regional structure capable of sustaining peace afterward, okay? And maybe we haven't exhausted the road to peace.

So this one is different. First of all, beginning at Jimmy Carter, we have exhausted peace. I mean, 49 years of peace talks, okay? And what's different, why I believe Donald Trump did not take this on the first time is because he hadn't done the work, he had done the Abraham Accords, but he had not done the rest of the work that is needed. The Abraham Cords fundamentally altered the Middle East diplomacy. it brought key Arab states into open normalization with Israel.

And for the first time, major Sunni powers publicly aligned around coexistence rather than, we got to wipe Israel off the face of the map. So they kind of joined the Western world and went, we can kind of coexist here. Also, Hamas's military capacity severely degraded since October 7th attacks and also the war in Gaza that should. shifted the strategic balance in the region. Also, several Arab nations and governments have become stakeholders in stability rather than chaos. They're no longer standing on the sidelines. They are now saying, we want peace. Okay. That's not a small shift. That is a tectonic shift.

Here's what we have done in the past. We have gone in and said, we're going to bring peace. We're freedom's on the march. And we're going to bring freedom to these people. You cannot bring freedom to these people. I thought we could in Afghanistan. I even kind of thought we could in Iraq. That's absolutely idiocy to think you can bring people freedom. They must fight for it themselves. They must want it themselves. So if we were going into nation build, I'm absolutely dead set against it. If you remove a destabilizing regime after regional powers are economically and politically invested in peace, the odds of a vacuum of chaos shrink dramatically. They don't go away.

It still could become horrible in the end. This doesn't guarantee success, but it changes the probability curve. Third thing I asked myself, can you be anti-war and still use force effectively? Yes, look at Donald Trump. This one is key. This is not can you fight a war and be anti-war. This is can you be against war and fight it effectively? Donald Trump is not pro-war.

I don't care what any of the other punnets say that are now turned on Donald Trump. And I am not here to shovel garbage for, I'm not carrying any weight, any water for Donald Trump. He's a big boy. He can handle himself. I'm here just to tell you how I think about things and what. I have noticed. During his first term, Donald Trump authorized the strike that killed Soleimani. Okay. That was, this is the guy that was the architect of the Iran regional proxy war.

This is the guy who was responsible for killing many U.S. soldiers, okay? When he did it, people said, going to set the whole Middle East on fire, but it didn't. then ISIS Iraq Obama tried to fight ISIS for two terms couldn't fight it couldn't fight it couldn't fight it Hillary Clinton goes over she actually helps create it make it more powerful I mean it was horrible

remember ISIS was burning Christians in cages and we did nothing about it Donald Trump they were killing our soldiers and Donald Trump said we got to do this and all the generals said it's going to take us two years. And he said, bull crap, it's going to take us two years. Is there anybody who has less than a two year plan? That's what he found Raisin Kane. General Kane came in and said, I can get it done in four weeks. And he explained the plan. And Donald Trump said, you're either crazy or you're my guy.

And he convinced him he wasn't crazy. And what happened? We wiped ISIS out. The control of ISIS collapsed almost overnight. Okay. Far, far, far faster. than even the most optimistic people predicted possible. Because Donald Trump started to surround himself with the people who knew what they were doing weren't part of the system of bull crap and were fighting to win. And that's when the message was sent by him. It was clear. Restraint does not mean weakness.

There is a pattern here. he disdains prolonged occupation paired with a willingness to use unrelenting, overwhelming, precise force with a great strategy. That's not neocon nation building. That is completely different than what we've did. This is coercive leverage. Fourth question. The capability that we have. Does that matter morally?

yes it does i don't believe in a fair fight when it comes to war i don't want a fair fight when it comes to war i want to be so overwhelmingly powerful that it takes the oxygen out of the lungs of our enemies all over the world and they go oh my gosh don't ever mess with them that's the way to fight war now one of the just war criteria is the probability of success if you launch a war that you cannot win, you are not moral, you are reckless. If this president had demonstrated that when he uses force, it's targeted, short duration, strategically defined, followed by negotiation, then the moral calculus shifts. A limited strike backed by regional diplomatic architecture is not the same species of action

as open-ended occupation boots on the ground. But in that how we all get into all these foreign wars, I ask myself, all these forever wars. Well, let me explain that in 60 seconds. First, NMLS-182334, NMLS Consumer Access.org. APR for rates in the five starts at 6.799% for well-qualified borrowers. Call 800906 2440 for details about credit costs and terms.

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and asking yourself, what the hell was that all about? But here's the question that we have to model honestly is refusing to act, even when action might prevent something larger, actually be the safer path. If a regime funds proxies across Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Iraq, if it arms militias, threatens choke points for maritime travel, presuse advanced weapons capability, you know, like ballistic missiles, and I am discounting all the nuclear talks, I've heard that for 30 years,

at what point does our inaction create the very first, war we fear. I come at this differently so you know, so when you're trying to make your decision, you understand mine. I believe we're already in World War III. I believe we are going to be fighting the armies of Islam in the future. And the head of that snake, a very dangerous, dangerous head of that snake are the 12ers that were running Iran. They are the most dangerous of any Islamic cult. And sometimes refusing to act early guarantees a bigger conflict later. But this is not a, oh, yep, I know this is it.

But peace is not being passive. Peace is stability enforced. Okay. Also, we have the people that were killed on the streets. But yeah, but why not Sudan then? This one I wrestled with this weekend, and this is so uncomfortable. because thousands have been slaughtered in Sudan just for being Christian. Christians persecuted horrors everywhere.

So why not take that on? This is a really nasty thing, but this has to be said. We have to understand this. A nation cannot survive and act purely on moral horror. We can't. Or we would be everywhere. strategic impact, regional domino effects, alliance commitments, nuclear proliferation risks, direct threats to our citizens.

What makes this different than the Sudan is Iran sits at the center of multiple global pressure points simultaneously, energy, shipping lanes, proxy networks, nuclear ambition, terrorism, and crank, which I'll get into in a little while, which is so important. If you miss crank, you don't understand what he's doing at all. Sudan is tragic. Horrific and tragic. Iran is systemic. That doesn't make the suffering unequal in value at all. It just makes the geopolitical stakes unequal in scale. And that is not hypocrisy. It is statescraft. Okay. So is this different? It may be. And not because war is good, but because peace groundwork, I believe, was laid first if you look at what he's trying to do in the Middle East. Regional players were brought into the ownership like I've never seen before. The strike appears to be limited and precise. There is no declared ambition for occupation. We don't want to be there. The president has a record of preferring leverage over Quagmire.

This could end badly. Zellets are patient. Retaliation likely. Seat sleeper networks are real. But it is equally possible that removing the head of this regime while surrounding it with economic normalization will produce a collapse inward rather than an explosion outward. And that didn't exist in 2003.

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be helpful. And I am trying really hard to not tell you what to think because this is war and people are going to die and some of our own people will die. And this could go horribly. This could go great. This could cause terror strikes in our own country that would be horrific. And you cannot make your decision based on somebody else's opinion. Okay. You have to do what I did this weekend and stop listening to everybody else and start looking at your principles. I am somebody who does not like these endless wars. I'm absolutely against these endless wars. So how could I be for this one if I am? I am absolutely wanting to get out of the Middle East. So how could you possibly be for this one? I don't want to nation build.

So how could you possibly be for this one? I worry about the people in Sudan. So why aren't we in Sudan? All of these things, okay? And we have to make sure that we've answered all of those questions. So I tried to give you the framework on how I was looking at that. Just not to convince you, but just so you can think about it yourself. So you can decide.

You must be the person that makes the decision. This opinion must be yours. Nobody else's, okay? So what I came to in conclusion this weekend was I can celebrate that so far very few Americans have been hurt or killed and I can also mourn them. I can also acknowledge the stunning capability of the U.S. military. I can feel genuine hope for the Iranian women and the dissidents. You know, the homosexuals that have been thrown off rooftops by this administration, the children, the girls under nine, many multiples.

Everybody talks about the kids that the U.S. accidentally bombed in a school. And that is an horrible, horrible, horrible tragedy. But why are you not looking at the many multiples of girls who are married to old men in Iran at the age of 9, 10, or 11, and their lives are completely destroyed. Why don't you care about those girls? Now, that can't be the only reason you say we can go, but it is a real reason,

but it can't be the only reason. Otherwise, we'd be in Sudan and every place else. I can feel this hope. And at the same time, I can simultaneously say, I don't have any idea how this ends, but I believe this is just, but is that the end of the story?

No. No. Because if you're only making this about Iran, you're only seeing a small picture. The thing that people don't understand with Donald Trump is he is a big vision guy. Look, you don't build what he has built. He's an empire builder, okay, a businessman. He builds empires. You don't have that kind of vision and then look at everything as a one-off.

And in 2020, when he lost, he had time to go out to the wilderness. And he reimagined what he was facing and then also what the country is facing. So his vision is enormous. So you can look at Iran and you can say, okay, well, that's causing terror in the Middle East. And, well, that's why we're doing because of Israel. Is it? Is it? Is it?

Or is he also trying to get us out of the Middle East? East, and that's why he's making all these peace deals there. And this, if it works, could help bring and stabilize the Middle East even more and make the Middle East rely on themselves exactly what he's asking the Germans and the French and the Italians and everybody else to do in NATO. We're not going to be there for you. We cannot afford to do it. Middle East, we cannot afford to do this.

We're not going to be there for you. You must police your own neighborhoods without least. a vacuum. You saw what happened when we just left Afghanistan. That's what vacuums do. So he is trying to get out of these places without leaving a vacuum and building a framework for it to fall into that they can run. Okay. That's just one part of it. The other part is crinks. There used to be the Axis and Allies powers. and the Axis powers were Germany and Japan and Italy and all those that fought for, you know, the Axis powers of Hitler, okay? That axis is now called Crink and it Crink, C, China, R, Russia, I, Iran, and NK, North Korea. Crink, okay?

And that is this authoritarian group of states and scholars and strategies and strategies. and everything else that are growing this anti-Western coordination and they have shared interests. They're not working all in lockstep, but they work together. It's not a formal alliance like NATO or the Warsaw Pact, but it is shorthand to understand who is on the opposing side of the West. Okay. Now, why is this relevant? Because as we look to Iran in this conflict. What is he doing? Well, by taking out Iran, China loses all of that oil that they must have. They're also sending, they're sending tech to Iran, which will help Iran even slave more people, but also they are sending supersonic missile technology, and they're working with Iran on that.

You've got to stop that. So you've hurt Iran with its financial, with its energy, with its oil. Russia, they need the Russian oil for money. They sell their oil. They also work with Iran to get all of that oil to China. But more importantly, with Russia, they build all of Russia's drones. So when you look at the Russian drones, knowing that they're all coming from Iran, this takes that out, which helps then the war in Ukraine.

Dugan just said, think of this, Dugan just said, Alexander Dugan, he was called Putin's brain for a while. He just said that if Iran falls, Russia falls as well. Now, in a way, I hope that's not true because I don't want more destabilization. but I do want the teeth pulled out of that tiger. Okay. So by hurting Iran,

you are also trying to solve that you don't think he's going to have more leverage. You know that Putin called Trump this weekend and said, hey, let's sit back down on the table and talk about Ukraine. Okay. It's already starting to happen. This guy is like a nuclear chain reaction. He does one thing and all of these other things happen because of that.

All these dominoes start to fall. And if you don't, you can disagree with that, but not that that is happening. You can disagree with, I don't think that's the right thing to do or I don't think it's going to work out, whatever, but you cannot deny that all of these things are connected or you're just, you're not worth talking to because you're not thinking deeply enough. Okay. Just last week, we found out that India was switching. It's always been, it's always played this middle ground, you know, hey, I'm friends.

with Russia. Oh, Russia, I'm friends with the United States, and they've played us back and forth for a long time. Trump just got them to come into our camp. Now, why is that important? Because you've been hearing the dollar is going to fall, and China and Russia and the BRICS nations are trying to create their own currency to collapse the American dollar. Savitt stopped being the World's Reserve currency. who is the one that started bricks? It's the eye in bricks, India. They're now on our side. Plus you look at Venezuela.

What did you do in Venezuela? What did he just say about Cuba? It looks like Cuba is in so much trouble. They may just say, hey, can we make a deal with the United States? That takes Cuba and Venezuela out of the China and the Russia camp. Are you beginning to see how this is all connected? Plus, all of the Iranian terrorist proxies are in Venezuela and Cuba and also on our shores because they're being sent and trained in places like Venezuela. So once you have all of this, then you begin to see the whole picture.

And you can come to the conclusion, being anti-war does not mean being anti-strength. We have to be strong. Being pro-peace does not mean tolerating endless destabilization. Sometimes the most peaceful leader is the one most willing to use force decisively, quickly, force that does not become perpetual, force again, that takes the air out of people who are your enemies, takes the air out of their lungs, and they go, oh my gosh, don't ever do that again. Okay. the test is going to be

does this shorten conflict or seed the next generation of conflict and only history can add no pundit, not me, nobody else can say, can answer that. They all have their opinions, you don't know what this is going to cause and I said to the TV all weekend long,

neither do you, Jack, neither do you. Right now, our job is to think clearly enough that when history does have the answer, we recognize why. So after a whole weekend of prayer and study and thought, I came to four conclusions, and here they are. Most importantly, I trust God. I know one way or another it's going to work out the way he deems it.

That does not mean I take my hands off the steering wheel in my own life or in our country. It means I trust him. I remember the 2020 election. If that hadn't have happened, we wouldn't have the president we have today. Like it or not, he's a different man. Two, we have to search these things out. We have to be led by the spirit. We have to use our own brain because it's required.

We have to soul search. but sole search without politics. Is this moral and just? Is this in our national interest? Is this America first? What does that even mean? And for more reasons than I outlined here, I wrestled with this and I came up with,

yes, this is America first. Yes, this is a just war. That's my conclusion. Your conclusion may be different and do not take my opinion as gospel. Third thing, this is not Donald Trump of 2016. This president has made bold moves, beginning with the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem, which remember would set the world on fire.

Probably start World War III. That's what they said. Killing of ISIS in less than four weeks. Best mindset couldn't be done in less than two years. Then the killing of Solemei, whatever his name is, what's his name? Solomani. Solomani. It was going to start World War III.

again, didn't. Then strike on the nuke plants in Iran, start World War III. It didn't. Venezuela, can't be done. Look at the results now. This president has proven to me that he understands peace through strength and the best way to defend enemies is with overwhelming force. He has proven to me that he does not like war, but he will act when he believes it's in the nation's best interests. For me, he has earned my respect enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not a blizzard. blank check to nation build. But instead to stop the global threat once and for all, give the people Iran a chance to rule themselves, take on China and Russia and everything else, and give our country a chance for a future. And four, while all of this, I believe, is true today,

it still may end up in a way that is not to our liking. Which brings me back to point 9. Number one, I believe in God, and all of it is going to end the way it is supposed to end. Just do your part. Back in a minute. Burn a launcher. Everyone in your family needs a plan for personal safety. I've got one.

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And we have just decimated it yet again. I mean, the military is so unbelievably. we have gone from running and looking like a joke with men in dresses leaving Afghanistan to this in one president. I tell you, it's why I worry about who's going to be the next president, because it can change as dramatically.