The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn Exposes Democrat Lies About Obamacare & the Shutdown | 11/11/25
Episode Date: November 11, 2025Is the government shutdown over? The Senate passed a bill to fund the government, but now rumors are circulating that it won’t pass the House. Glenn breaks down how Democrats need chaos and fear to ...gain power. Stu rants about how the media is blaming Republicans for refusing to allow Democrats to further break the economy. Glenn tries to offer some hope about the looming economic crisis that the Democrats are hoping for. Americans want a quick fix, but our country is too sick to heal quickly. Glenn reacts to a disturbing video of protesters mocking Charlie Kirk’s death. Glenn argues that a spiritual war has begun. Glenn and Stu discuss Jimmy Kimmel’s wife cutting ties with family members who voted for Trump. For Veterans Day, Glenn gives his heartfelt message to veterans for everything they sacrificed for the country. Is the internet making AI dumber? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Is it over or not? Well, even if it is, I'm going to start all over again in January.
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Hey, Glenn. How's it going?
So is the shutdown over?
I mean, it has to go to the house, and now the house is saying that they're not going to pass it.
Well, the house should be, I don't think there's any real belief that they're not going
pass it. The big hurdle was
the Senate and they got through the Senate.
Now we just get to watch the ongoing
Democratic Civil War over
whether Chuck Schumer is going to be removed
or not.
It is crazy.
So let me go through
something that came in from the New York Times.
What were the Democrats thinking?
It starts out
in this op-ed back in September
when I was reporting an article,
Democrats should shut down the government. I kept hearing
the same warning from veterans of past shutdown
fights. President controls the bully pulpit and parts of the government will stay open and he
decides what parts close. It's very, very hard for the opposition party to win a shutdown, blah, blah, blah.
Now they have brokered a deal over the weekend as the Senate Democrats broke ranks and negotiated a
deal to end the shutdown in return for, if we're being honest, very little, according to the New York Times.
The guts of the deal are this. Food assistance, both Snap and Wick will get a bit more funding.
There will be a few other modest concessions on spending levels elsewhere in the government.
Laid off federal workers will be rehired and furloughed federal workers will give in back pay.
Most of the government is funded only until the end of January.
So get ready.
We'll be doing this again.
The deal does nothing to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits,
which Democrats substantially shut down the government for in the first place.
First of all, it's not the Affordable Care Tax Credit.
That's not why you shut it down.
There are tax credits, yes, but this is different.
These were the government subsidies.
Leave it to the New York Times.
Let me lay this really clear.
Democrats demanded a continuation of the enhanced subsidies for the American Care Act.
They were temporarily expanded during the pandemic.
These were not the tax credits.
these were extra subsidies stuffed into the 2021 American Rescue Plan as an emergency measure.
Remember the one we had to pass this in the middle of the night.
Nobody could read it.
Well, that was what was in it.
And these subsidies lowered the premiums more than usual, expanded the eligibility far
above the original ACA income caps, and was always designed to be temporary just for COVID.
So if you were in COVID and you lost.
your job. Now, you didn't have health care or whatever. You could get on the ACA, even though your,
your salary was higher than, you know, it would be accepted. Normally, you could get on it.
But once they created this, Washington does what Washington always does, and they won't let it go.
Okay. It's not the tax credit. To understand why the shutdown will end with such a whimper,
you need to understand the strange role the ACA subsidies played in it.
Democrat said the shutdown was about subsidies, but for most of them, it wasn't.
Now, this is the New York Times saying this.
It was about Trump's authoritarianism.
It was about showing their base and themselves that they could fight back.
It was about treating an abnormal political moment abnormally.
The ACA subsidies emerged as the shutdown demand because they could keep the caucus sufficiently united.
They put Democrats on the right side of public opinion, even though self-identified MAGA voters, one of the subsidies extended.
And they held the quivering Senate coalition together.
You shut the government down with the Democratic caucus that you have, not with the Democratic caucus that you want.
But the shutdown was built on a crack foundation.
There were Senate Democrats who didn't want to shut down at all.
There were Senate Democrats who did want to shut down, but thought it was strange to make their demand so narrow.
Was winning on health care premiums, really winning the right?
fight? Shouldn't Democrats really vote to fund the government turning towards authoritarianism as long as
health insurance subsidies are preserved? And what if winning the health care fight was actually a
political gift to Trump? Now this is the New York Times. Absin of fix, the average health insurance
premium for 20 million Americans were more than double. The premium shock will hit red states
really hard. Trump's longtime polster had released a survey of competitive housing.
House districts showing that letting the tax credits expire might be lethal to Republican efforts
to hold the House. Why were the Democrats fighting so hard to neutralize their best issue in
2006? The political logic of this shutdown fight was inverted. If Democrats got the tax credits extended,
if they won, they'd be solving a huge electoral problem for the Republicans. If Republicans
successfully allowed the tax credits to expire, if they won, they'd be handing the Democrats a
cudgel, which would beat them in the next elections. This is unbelievable. I mean, they're saying
it out loud, you know what I mean? They go on in this to say, you know, quote, why can't Republicans
just accept reality? These health care subsidies are working. No, they're not. No, they are not.
They are propping. Okay. They're scaffolding, holding up a structure that was never sound.
They were a COVID-era brace jammed under a tottering wall, and now the same architects who swore the house was safe.
They're telling you now the splintered wood is actually part of the design.
What?
This is the power the mainstream media has.
The press still has over millions of Americans.
It's kind of like a hypnotic chokehold.
You say the word subsidy enough times with the right sad piano music under it, and suddenly we forget what subsidies are.
here's what subsidies are gang money borrowed from the chinese but we're on the hook now we're not
on the hook for it money borrowed from the chinese from the future to hide the failures of the present
on decisions that were made in the past okay and now we're told if we don't just keep borrowing
forever america will collapse no what collapses is this crazy illusion let's be clear about something
the op-ed never will omit the afforded the afforded
Care Act didn't fail because of Republicans.
It failed because math is a stubborn thing.
Because insurance is not health care.
Because a program bent around bureaucrats and middlemen will always cost more and deliver
less.
We have been subsidizing the symptoms.
We never treated the disease here.
And now when a shutdown touches those subsidies,
suddenly we're told the sky is cracking.
TikTok is.
flooded with panic videos scripted by algorithms that can't really be trusted.
The influencers don't even know what they're defending.
They just know fear pays better than the truth.
And here's the truth.
The system was failing long before Trump, long before Biden, long before COVID.
And maybe, just maybe, this moment is not a crisis, but an opening.
You know, I've said this for months now.
The greatest political opportunity of our lifetime now is,
health care reform. Real actual reform. Not another Washington quick fix, not more subsidies or anything else.
Not a band-aid over a bullet wound, but the Republicans won't do anything about it.
I believe, and I say this, without hesitation, I think, that Trump and RFK Jr. together may be the only
combination force in American politics with the will to take a flamethrower to the bureaucracy,
that is choking doctors and nurses.
The pharmaceutical lobby, the insurance labyrinth, the 50 states wrapped in 50 different versions of red tape,
all of it has to be confronted.
And here's why Trump can't afford to miss this.
If he solves even a quarter of this problem, if he can find the way to lower costs,
if he increases access, if he frees the market to actually work across state lines,
he'll not only win in 2026, he'll be launching a momentum that will carry Vance into the presidency in 2028.
This is the key here.
But he has to remember something Washington has long forgotten.
The people he's negotiating with, they don't want a deal.
They don't fear collapse.
They welcome it.
They have been playing a slow motion color revolution, one where the country has to be impoverished, has to be frightened,
and has to be divided to accept the new power structures.
Color revolutions only work if your people are hungry, if they're afraid,
and they believe the people in the head of the government are authoritarian.
When that happens, you can have a color revolution.
And every day America does not break.
Every day, the economy still stands.
Every day, people wake up and realize their lives are not as hopeless as the media insist.
the revolutionaries lose their leverage.
So the shutdown is not the crisis.
The crisis is the addiction to government medicine.
So here's the battle line that matters, I think most right now.
While the press spins, you know, panic, Trump has to gather the brightest minds,
the innovators, the disruptors, the people who build things rather than manage decline.
That's what he does best.
You know, if Elon Musk could do for NASA what Washington,
could not, then why can't we find, maybe even get Elon Musk, why can't we unleash the same
kind of thinking on health care? It's time for radical thinking. Imagine a system where your doctor
spends more time listening than actually checking boxes. Imagine competition across state lines.
Imagine prices that behave like normal prices because the market is finally allowed to work
and government doesn't have its finger on the scale.
Imagine freeing the nurses and physicians from the paperwork prisons they're in
and letting them practice medicine again.
This isn't utopian.
That's just uncaptured America.
The America before the bureaucratic glacier settled over up absolutely everything in our lives.
Trump is the one that can do this.
He's hitting home runs.
Grand slams all the time, all the time.
Healthcare is the crack in the wall where sunlight is still getting through.
If you solve this, if you solve the pressure and you lower the pressure on the engine behind the color revolution, you win.
You win.
I don't even talking about elections.
You save the republic.
You solve this and you solve the fear.
that drives half of our political dysfunction.
Washington thinks the shutdown is a battlefield.
It's not.
The battlefield is health care.
The future is decided there.
And the man who breaks that system open and lets Americans breathe again will shape this country for a generation.
And the only guy to do it is Donald Trump.
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You know, the thing that I don't know why people aren't saying,
this subsidy is not going to the people.
people, you're not keeping this money.
It's not like you're getting a check and you're keeping it.
You're getting a check from the government for the subsidy and it's going directly to the
insurance companies.
And I just find that, I just, I find that amazing that that's what the Democrats are
fighting for.
More money to the insurance companies.
Oh, okay.
All right.
That's kind of a different look at it.
And it's due? I mean, I thought it was for, you know, the poor people.
Right. No. No. No. It's for the insurance companies.
I mean, it's, you can't keep the money.
It's always been a giant source of guaranteed revenue to insurance companies since the beginning of it.
Yes.
And, you know, it's funny because we just went over this big election and, you know, with New York City and everything where everyone was like, you need to focus on affordability.
And the Democrats supposedly nailed that messaging, at least in these blue areas.
was able to win these elections.
When comically, like, when next time Democrats bring up affordability,
remind them what the ACA stands for,
the Affordable Care Act,
they've already tried this.
They tried to pitch you this years and years and years ago.
And now, by their own admission,
the entire system will collapse unless we give you even more money
to lower their own.
supposedly affordable rates.
This was supposed to make health care affordable.
They were supposed to have solved this a long time ago.
They tried it.
They failed.
And now it's supposedly Republicans' fault for not approving even more money, hundreds of billions
of dollars more to go back into the same program to make the Affordable Care Act actually
affordable.
How is that possibly Republicans' fault?
I think this is why God takes us out when we're in our 80s or 90s because you get
so tired of it.
I remember in the, you know, when the ACA was first being debated, as Obamacare and Obama said,
this is going to make it affordable for everybody.
And I said, no, it's not.
It's not.
The math doesn't work.
And here's what's going to happen.
They're going to do it for a few years.
And then it's going to get so bad, it will collapse.
And so they'll come to you and say, we need more tax dollars and the evil Republicans won't give it to us.
But this will fix it.
And it won't fix it then.
And they'll just keep going until it finally goes into university.
health care. And then, you know, then you're really screwed. And I'm so, I'm so tired. I mean,
you, you were saying all these arguments and I'm like, well, yeah, we made those arguments.
Yeah. Stu and I talked about this, oh, 15 years ago and didn't seem to make a difference then.
You know, that's what I just started thinking, you know, I think this is why when you get older,
God takes you. It's out of mercy because you remember too many things that have happened over and over and
over again and you just can't get people to understand.
Stop.
Stop doing that.
Stop doing that.
Don't you understand?
It's so frustrating.
It's incredibly frustrating.
And, you know, it is something that we talked about a million times back in the day.
And you, the problem, of course, is it's always their answers.
I don't, you know, and it's, it's difficult to win those battles.
You know, like, you think about, like, there is a new, there's a new report out about minimum wage
and how that fast food minimum wage thing from a few years ago where they raised all the prices
in California $15,000 cost them in like 19,000 people their jobs. Think of what the
modifications are of that over a long period of time. 19,000 probably younger people who couldn't
get jobs, who didn't get to build their careers, didn't get to get started. Now are, you know,
probably working with families where they are making less money that, you know, this is going to
echo throughout their entire lives.
And what is the answer going to be when they can't pay for these things later in
in life?
Once again, it's going to somehow be our fault.
It's going to be our fault.
And then the only answer will be government giving them more and then becoming more
dependent on government.
And we need new programs and new Affordable Care Act nonsense to patch up what they already
tore apart.
And it's just, it's on repeat, man.
It's the same thing over and over again.
It's the same thing.
Again, that's why the Lord takes you.
That's why we don't, you know, Moses, you know, he lived to what, like 900 years old or something like that.
You know, he didn't have social media.
He didn't have, you know, it didn't have all of these things that he was like,
oh, geez, I just saw this one 400 years ago.
And then I saw it, you know, 350 years ago, 325 years ago, 300 years ago, 200 years ago, 295 years ago.
I mean, I can only take so many times of going through the same story over and over again because you're like, what part?
It's like a game, you know, when you can't go to the next level until you've solved that one level.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's like, I just feel like we're stuck in that one level.
And they're like, no, guy, the door.
You're, look for the door.
Look for the door.
It's really simple.
You just stop doing that.
Stop doing that.
and the door will open to the next level.
And I, it's like, I, I, I, I, I'm not saying, Lord, take me now.
But I'm saying, you know, you can take me, you know, when you want.
You can take me when you want.
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Like he's up there.
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Stu does not share my optimism.
And I, you know, I think that's too strong of a word.
I'm not optimistic.
I am hopeful that somebody in Washington on our side understands what we're facing here,
that healthcare is the biggest win.
It's the biggest win and totally winnable.
Yeah, and I do think if, you know, if it was like the top priority of Donald Trump,
like I think, you know, he could be able to move Republicans towards trying to come up with something, I guess.
But I don't show much optimism on that because as I was going through that whole scenario,
it wasn't just that we said these rates would go up and that the Affordable Care Act wouldn't be affordable
and gave all the reasons that wound up playing out with risk pools and everything else.
And it wasn't also that we would say, hey, the way they're going to try to solve this is by more government subsidies and more dependence on government.
We said all that stuff.
And that's what we just talked about.
But the other thing we said was that after this thing got past, the Republicans would bail on opposing it.
We would no longer have an opposition.
We're now to the part of the story where the right wing position is just normal obnoxious.
Obamacare.
And the left-wing position is new expanded fancy times 10 Obamacare.
It's the question of whether we triple down on Obamacare or double down on it.
That's now the conservative position.
Okay.
So let me give you some hope.
I talked to Dr. Oz and he said they are introducing something here in the next couple of months should be many time now.
And it will be done at the state level.
and it will be to stop all the barriers from state to state.
And you get your funding for different programs
if you get rid of those barriers or your insurance companies.
And if you don't, well, you don't get your funding.
And so they're going to be incentivized to do it.
So I do think that there is some thinking about this that is going on with RFK and Dr.
Oz.
In fact, let's see if we can get them on.
Maybe I'll go up to Washington and do a podcast.
with him because I think this is the big win here because if you look you have to you have to change
the life of people in the in the next 15 months 12 months if you want to win the election
and if you if you want to win with jd vance it's going to have to you're going to have to do it in the
next 18 months at the very minimum okay it's going to get harder and harder to do it so you have
you have the things what are the what are the levers the president has in front of him
housing what is the problem with the housing market the housing market there's a couple of
problems one we we don't have a we have a shortage of housing okay because everybody freaked out
and everybody's like you know 2008 we had a housing glut and so now maybe we should go the
other way and so we didn't build enough houses so now we have this giant housing shortage
okay so can the president fix that one quickly no
millions of houses need to be built, and how is he going to do it, unless there's a land grab,
unless he opens up federal land, which we saw how that one went.
So he can't really fix the housing thing.
He could help it by saying, hey, BlackRock, you guys stop buying houses.
But how do you do that?
I mean, is that the right thing to do?
I mean, it's the right thing to do for the people constitutionally.
Can you do that?
I don't know. I don't think so. The next cost that people are feeling, electricity. What are you going to do with that? Well, we know that he is building power plants or he is letting the red tape go on the power plants. So if you want to build a power plant, you can build a power plant in record time. But that again is 18, 24, 36 months away. Minimum before you have new power plants where you'll start to see your electricity cause.
So you can't do that. Food costs. What is you going to do? Import cheaper food? That's not a good idea.
So what are you how do you affect the average person's money? Well, you can send them free money, which means we have to print more. He's going to send free money. It's the money that he's been taking in from the the trade barriers. So he's saying he's going to send $2,000 check to people. And that's the first time I've ever seen a check.
where the money was actually money that we had, not printed money.
But that's all you can do.
If you can even do that, that's all you can do because you can't print money.
You can't have a stimulus.
Or you'll jack the prices of everything up and then you're in the same loop over and over and over again.
The only place where the government has the tools has enough sway, Donald Trump could do this,
to start breaking this thing up is healthcare.
And that could change things pretty much overnight.
Within 12 months, if he acted today, within 12 months,
you would start to see prices come down.
You would start to see competition.
You would start to see some sort of relief.
But what else does he have, Stu?
What else can he do that can change people's lives?
And he knows he has to do that.
Well, I mean, I generally, I think, agree with most of that.
I think that, you know, that the health care is one you could do.
Although, you know, again, that's something you sign up for in an annual basis, right?
So, I mean, even if the prices did drop, it would take a while for that to come in.
I mean, the most, the easiest way to do this.
And he's, by the way, done a lot of this is, you know, deregulation.
You know, I think what's happening with some of that, and we're not seeing tons and tons of results from that is because I
I think he's doing things on the other side as well that are affecting prices the opposite way.
So we're not going to see massive drops.
And, you know, of course, a lot of this is too, is just, you know, there's a lot of big promises that are made when you're talking about prices coming down really fast.
It's not always achievable.
Again, the president of the United States, we've said this for 100 million years.
I feel like, again, we're on repeat here.
But the president of the United States is not the guy who sets prices.
That's not, that's on his job, right?
Like, he doesn't micromanage the economy.
He can do things that can help the economy.
And I think what's happening now, as you're pointing out, and I think this is the desperation a little bit seeping into our politics, is that there were, Trump won the election with a lot of people who had faith in him, not because he was good on even the border or on, you know, trans kids, you know, trans men playing playing sports.
It was about that it was that affordability issue.
He was really good on that.
and people believed they would see an economy like they saw in 2018 and 2019 in his first term.
And we're just, you know, so far, not really seeing that.
Now, there's a lot to unwind from where Joe Biden was.
And the way these prices work when it comes to inflation is not necessarily that prices drop down.
That's what's so devastating about a long-term inflation like the one that we got from Joe Biden.
The prices get to a set level.
And you don't necessarily bring those prices down as much as you stop the,
and slow the increases.
Right.
Yeah.
Which is difficult.
But like, again, one of the focuses of Trump's economic plan is to try to draw a lot of these products to be made in the United States.
As you point out, that is a long-term process.
You're talking about way after Donald Trump is out of office before you're seeing the, what the potential theoretical benefits of new factories being built in the United States.
It's got to take a long.
time for that to work if you believe it's going to work.
And when you're talking about the other side of that, which is, you know, increasing prices
based on different taxes and such, you're winding up with a situation where you're taking
the medicine and you're waiting for those results to kick in over multiple periods of years.
So I think the way that he can do a lot of this stuff, the best thing that he can do in a quick
way is cutting regulation.
You can cut out a lot of this stuff to increase the speed of the improvement.
Like, if you want to build a new power plant, he can cut those things from 12 years to four.
But that's not going to, it's not an immediate, you know, economic win.
No, the country has cancer.
That's the problem.
The country has cancer.
And we can survive.
But it's going to take chemotherapy and a long,
time. And so you can't just go in, if you have, you know, cancer, you can't go in and say,
well, you know, you told me yesterday you were going to start chemotherapy and I had my first
chemotherapy and I feel worse and I'm not getting any better. It's been six months, Doc, and I'm
not feeling any better. Yeah, you're not going to feel better at first because it's a serious
disease. That's the issue that we're dealing with. The damage, and we said this under Biden,
we said this under the first Trump, we said this under Bush.
You know, Reagan was saying this.
At some point, the sickness is going to be so bad that there's not going to be anything
that feels good to do.
And it's going to get harder and harder to take the medicine.
And unfortunately, you know, everybody wants a quick fix.
You know, when Reagan came in and everything was out of control, you remember what Paul Volker did?
Do you remember this still?
Yeah.
You weren't old enough.
Yeah, but he was, you know it through history.
What did he do?
He had to get rid of inflation.
So that meant jacking up rates and it was a painful period.
To what?
To what?
Gosh, it was it 18, 20% in that range, right?
It was, I think at the top, it was 20% interest rates.
I remember 19% interest rates.
19.
People are freaking out over five or six.
we had 19% interest rates.
That stopped everybody from buying.
You want to talk about not being able to afford a house.
That was it.
But that's what sucked all that money back in.
Well, you can't do that now because the patient is so sick.
You can't.
Those interest rates will kill everything.
It'll kill all the jobs.
The whole thing will collapse.
So you can't do that.
But we're complaining on 5%, you know, and we're wanting them lower and lower and lower.
Well, yes, I want that too because there are signs that jobs are going away.
But jobs going away is not just the interest rate.
It is also AI and automation.
We are in this really ugly place that if we don't have these honest conversations and really explain to each other exactly what all of the forces are, you're going to get socialism.
because that will seem like the only answer.
Just make it stop.
Just make it stop.
Well, okay.
But know what all of the forces are that are causing all of these things.
And there is a way out of it.
It just cannot be done in two years.
It can't be.
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in January. I think this is a, this is something they're going to do. It'll hurt the economy if
we keep doing this. And I think this is something we're going to see all through next year,
all the way through the election season. Yay! Isn't that great? But I was telling Stu that I'm
reading a new book. I went to a Barnes & Noble yesterday for the first time and I don't know how long.
They're actual bookstores. Who would have guessed it? Few of them left. But I know. It's been
all so long since I've been in a bookstore. I didn't even know how to, I didn't even know
how to use it anymore. I'm like, where, where are the new books? Anyway, um, uh, found a new book out
called, uh, 1929. Holy cow is this good. Oh, it takes the year 19. I probably read a quarter of it
just yesterday. Um, it is, it takes 1929 and breaks it up into every month of what was going on. You know,
it starts at the crash. And it says, this is coming and then shows all of the players and what they
were doing and what they were saying all the way up. Oh my gosh.
Kind of probably an important thing to know because it looks exactly the same.
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly the same. Fun.
Anyway, yeah. There's a there's another book out. I think it's out today called Fateful
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the prequel, I suppose, of the Hitler biographies.
And what caused that?
And, you know, it just came out today.
I haven't read it yet.
But I will be reading it because, you know, those are this.
It's the same thing as 1929, right?
You're wondering.
Oh, yeah, right there.
I mean, part of it is in March, I think I'm up to March, one of the guys who runs
one of the big banks, he's going over to, you know, try to convince Europe.
You got to let Germany, you know, let's maybe get them on credit.
Let's see if we can finance this thing to bring the payments down and be more reasonable.
You know, I think we can get that done.
Oh, he's in for a big shock.
But, yeah, I mean, Vimar, the collapse of that deal, 1929, the collapse of that deal leads right to Adolf Hitler.
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Yeah, read about the Vimar Republic.
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She was asked about, you know, does she have any fear that she could be deported?
Now, listen to this.
This is a Congresswoman of the United States.
Listen to this.
I mean, I have no worry.
I don't know how they take away my citizenship and, like, deport me.
But it's, but I don't even know, like, why that's, like, such a scary threat.
Like, I'm not the eight-year-old who escaped war anymore.
I'm grown.
My kids are grown.
Like, I can go live wherever I want.
Oh, if you can go and live wherever.
she wants. Boy, I wish she would.
So wait a minute. I'm trying to
understand then why are you so against
ice? Because
it's not scary. You can go
and live wherever you want.
Why are you so afraid?
Because you're not afraid
of it. You
would think, first of all, constitutionally,
they can't do that. Well, I mean,
you can if you came under false pretences
and I'm just saying marry your brother.
But, you know,
you could have that citizenship
taken away if if that were ever true or proven and there's absolutely no way that ever going to
happen but uh it doesn't sound like she's proud to be an american i could just live wherever i want
you know i've thought about this a lot stew and i were joking about it last week he was like you know
glen uh you might want to consider a second citizenship someplace else and i'm like wait what what are you
talking about i mean if you want an escape hatch now would be the time to get it and i've thought about it
Because honestly, if the power goes back to the left, to the left, not Democrats, to the left in 2028, it is not going to be pretty.
They are going to do things that I am not looking forward to.
I mean, we'll be out of business.
You'll be lucky to not be.
I mean, we have one person running, and I've got a story about it later, it's in the free email newsletter at glenbeck.com.
I have a person running for the Democrats that actually believes in rounding people up that are Trump supporters and putting them in concentration camps.
Oh, okay.
Oh, wow.
All right.
I'm not for that, but I guess, you know, hey, whatever floats your boat.
And we've seen that they are willing to get nasty.
They are, they, it's, it's not a live and let live kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
And that's kind of where I want to spend my time, you know, here in the next.
few minutes on that. Let me start with
UK Berkeley.
These are anti-TPUSA
protesters. They show up on the front lines
and they are
they're shouting things at the people who are
waiting to get into
the event last night at UC Berkeley.
Listen to this.
Do I need to say what they're saying about
your dead homie?
Wow.
I'm having a hard time with this.
It's not that it is, I guess, unexpected.
It's just the atmosphere.
Something has changed in the atmosphere.
You know, for a last few weeks, I have been carrying this feeling around, you know,
like the weather has changed and nobody has bothered to check the forecast, you know.
it's not a gentle slide from fall into winter.
It's like all of a sudden, you know,
you have a front ripping across the plains.
That's what's happening.
And I've been thinking about this a lot,
and I haven't expressed it this way.
There's an old principle from physics,
and we all learned it in school.
It's Newton's third law.
And you can say it almost like a lullaby now.
For every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction, right?
And that line is, you know, classroom trivia, but it's more than that because it is a description of how reality itself pushes back.
Nothing happens in a vacuum.
Every force will set off another force.
Every impact ripples a counter impact.
And I can't shake that law lately, you know, because it is becoming less scientific and,
more almost like scripture right now.
Think about what's happened in the last six months.
Think about the action that has happened in the last six months.
We had evil strike.
Charlie Kirk was taken.
It wasn't just a tragedy.
It was a rupture in the floorboards of our world.
And millions of people felt it all over the world.
The entire globe stopped for a minute, stunned.
That was the action.
But then there was an equal.
and opposite reaction.
And I don't think it was all that equal.
It was all of a sudden like, oh, you want to play that game?
It was bigger.
And it did not come from man.
It was a revival.
It was this weird, glorious, unexpected rising of the human soul.
People who hadn't prayed in 20 years found themselves whispering to God in the dark.
Baptism surged, churches filled, questions that have been buried under politics and
entertainment started.
to the surface again. Is there more to life than this? What am I supposed to be? Is there any purpose to this?
What is the cost of truth? For a few weeks, that really was bubbling. Charlie's funeral reached over
one billion people when in history has a moment of grief turned into a global searchlight.
So this was a massive reaction that's caused all kinds of ripples.
Now comes another reaction, the one that follows the revival, and it is the counterforce.
And just like the first action of the shooter, it was evil, but it was man.
The reaction, the revival, was not man, although it included men, but it felt like it was a God thing, didn't it?
Now the reaction to that is the counterforce.
and it's the hatred on the left.
It's the weird, weird-ass lies about Charlie's death, okay?
The weird attempt to repackage, you know, a new version of the oldest tyrant in human history
and parade him out as something fresh.
You know, I think he was just misunderstood.
And you're like, what is happening?
And all of it is tied to this ancient hate the Jews stuff.
This isn't politics.
This isn't campus theatrics.
This isn't what we were facing even a year ago.
The pushback, that next reaction is something older, something that has always hated awakenings, wherever it appears.
And for me at least, I think this is the first time in my life.
And maybe it's just me.
But I feel like the eternal battle that usually plays, you know, plays.
you know, plays out way above our heads, you know, in, in, in realms that we can barely imagine,
it's as if we're seeing the two main actors stepping onto the stage with us. You know, it's almost
like the curtain has been pulled aside and the big players have walked in. And you're like,
wait, is that? And wow, and he's, holy cow.
Whether we wanted a role in this play or not, our part has been cast.
We're part of this cast, okay?
Fortunately for us, God uses human hands.
Unfortunately for us, darkness does as well.
So last week when I told you, I think the seasons have changed, Charlie's death was the ringing of a bell, not a funeral bell, but the opening bell in the title fight.
everything before that moment, all of the political squabbles, all the cultural noise,
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These were all the warm-ups.
These were the fight before the main event.
I really am convinced when you're seeing this evil on the street, when you're seeing
this lack of total lack of humanity and the celebration of death and the reframing of everything,
especially when it comes to ancient evil, to me, the main event has now begun.
Does anybody recognize that?
Because now it is our time to act.
Now it's our time to do what we're supposed to do.
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I want you to imagine somebody who acts not for applause, but acts for because it's just the right thing to do.
Okay.
Someone who steps forward when it's really easier to stay silent.
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It's courage is a muscle that you have to exercise.
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I'm going to have courage when you're not going to have courage
because you haven't exercised that muscle.
And heroes are,
they exercise this.
It's the neighbor who shares their time.
It's you,
the parent who stays up worrying,
the coworker who lends a hand.
These are the acts that are grounded in care and in love
and they're rooted in fairness,
just doing,
just doing what,
just what's right when nobody else is watching.
And they grow through loyalty to your family, your friends, your community, something
larger than yourself.
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just tragic.
And it's a family of somebody that you know, you may not like, you may like, I don't
know, but it's a family of somebody you know.
And it's just broken up over just stupid stuff.
We're sacrificing our families now.
Wait, we're sacrificing our family for what exactly?
Heroism, being a hero, that will ask you to sacrifice.
But sacrifice isn't just giving something up.
It's investing.
This is the difference.
Investing trust, investing energy, investing hope.
It's giving a part of yourself so you can stand taller so a burden is eased,
a spark of goodness that spreads.
And most likely, not going to be remembered.
It'll be remembered by those people that you did something for,
but you might even forget about it.
But they won't.
But the world's not going to be remembered because it's not seen.
The soldiers?
I mean, they did amazing things.
Are they really remembered the rescuers, the leaders?
Most are not going to be remembered.
The unseen heroes, those who,
comfort, who protect, who serve.
They don't need a stage.
Their stage is exactly where they stand.
Where you're standing right now, their reward is invisible.
But the effect is real and lasting.
Today I want to challenge you, if you look out and see fear, fear of loss, fear of exposure,
fear that no one is noticing you, know this, fear is a big part of life, but it doesn't
have to be. It doesn't come from any place good.
And heroism does not mean an absence of fear.
It means while you feel fear, you do it anyway.
It doesn't require any power. It just requires heart.
When you feel fear, do it anyway.
That's what makes a hero.
That's it. That's it.
Because you just remember what's right.
We all have fields of action here, me behind this microphone.
but it's also me at home.
It's you at school or in business.
You and your family.
There needs to be a hero every single place where you are.
And when you choose to tell the truth or to help somebody else or to stay loyal when loyalty is tested,
you're exercising heroism.
The world's going to need heroes.
It's going to need people to lift.
people up lift the unseen people who are just willing to sacrifice and not for suffering but
to plant a seed to make sure that somebody else goes on i don't exactly know how this all works out
but i know that it is an honor to live at this time because we get to see who we really are
i don't know who i would have been i probably would have been a lot more
selfish than I am, and I'm still pretty selfish.
I probably would have been a lot more selfish.
I don't know, I don't know if I would have survived the, the Fox years, because I probably
would have wanted it and then I wasn't, I hadn't dedicated myself to anything bigger than me,
so I probably would have stayed and that would have been a nightmare.
Somebody needs a voice, somebody needs kindness today.
Will you be that person that will rise?
because everything is good at getting so huge, so huge.
All the issues are getting so huge.
And we all feel like I can't do anything about it.
You can, but not on a huge scale.
But that's not what you're asked to do.
You're not the president.
I'm not the president.
I mean, I have this job.
I can't tell you how many times I come home.
I said to my wife last night, I don't want to go to work tomorrow.
She's like, stop whining.
I'm like, I don't want to go to.
to work tomorrow. It doesn't make a difference. And she's like, shut up. You know better than that.
But it's true. You get to, I mean, because everybody does. Everybody feels that way in their own job.
It doesn't make a difference. What am I doing? But you do it anyway. Because it does make a difference.
Your job makes a difference. Not, you know, mine, not on a colossal scale. I mean, if you're Donald Trump,
then maybe you get to have that huge, huge impact. But we can't all be, and I don't want.
to be that.
I just want to make the difference,
honestly, in my children's life,
first of all, in my wife's life,
in my neighborhood, in my church
with people around me,
that's where we can be a hero.
And that's where we make all the difference
in the world.
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You know, when I was a kid, I don't know if you were like this, but my aunts and uncles,
my dad and my grandpa and everybody, they would go at each other like, you know, alley cats,
pack of alley cats, just ripping each other, ribbing each other parts.
When it came to politics, it was a time of Nixon.
and passions were really high at the time of Nixon.
And then, you know, the fights would have edges, but not fangs.
I never, ever thought my family was falling apart because of some political argument.
And they didn't agree on thing.
You know, they would argue.
They'd roll their eyes.
They'd, you know, pop each other's balloons.
But then, and it was usually my grandmother, somebody would say,
dinner's ready.
And the whole thing would dissolve.
into, you know, the sound of clattering plates in the same old stories.
And it was over.
And then we'd get together again and they'd do it again.
And then dinner's ready.
And it would all be over.
It's weird how things have changed now.
You know, but I've been thinking about it and I think politics was not the sacred altar that it is now.
Washington was not the center of our personal universe.
family was, community was, how we treated each other was.
You know, we had room to be wrong, room to disagree, room to be human.
I saw something yesterday, Jimmy Kimmel's wife was on, let's see, we can do hard things, the podcast.
And she was on, and she, she's now distancing her pro-Trump relatives, family members.
and she says it hurts me so much because of the personal relationship I have now where my husband is out there fighting this man.
I personalize everything.
When I see these terrible stories every day, I'm immediately mad at certain aunts and uncles and cousins who put him in power.
And that's really, really super hard.
Wow.
She personalizes everything.
I mean, that's not politics.
That's something well beyond politics.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what that is.
The personalization.
My husband is out there fighting this man.
Fighting.
Why?
Was that his choice who elected him to fight?
Was he drafted?
Did he choose the fight?
And yeah, Trump has thrown jabs back.
But as a guy who's thrown jabs at Trump, he hits hard.
He hits really hard.
But he doesn't ever strike first.
You know?
And I know, I guess it's your job, I guess, to throw
punches at the president.
That was his job, but they weren't good-spirited.
They were mean-spirited.
And so, of course, the president's going to punch back.
I mean, you know, the scale tilts both ways when you're doing that one.
And, you know, it's weird is she went on to say that this was like, well, but he's a very
important figure in the world.
Yeah, he is.
He's the president of the United States.
But I don't know if you know this.
Your husband's not a nobody.
You know, he's not taking, you know, you're not punching tickets on the back of a subway.
When did it when did it when did host of a national late night show on a network stop being a powerful platform?
Well, I'm very angry.
I'm very angry.
I'm mad at my aunts and uncles and cousins who put him into power.
Mad at them?
You're really mad at them.
Not puzzled.
Not curious.
You're mad.
As if the act of voting differently is a personal.
betrayal. Well, you said you personalize everything.
You know, as if a disagreement is an act of violence. I'm mad at you. Why? Because we see the
world through a different lens. Is that why you're mad at me? You mad at me because I shop at
different grocery stores than Hollywood does? Because I live in a red state instead of a blue
zip code. Is that why you're mad at me? Can I ask you, why is it so important, especially to the
left, but it is to the right too. Why is it so important to us that everyone sees the world
exactly the way we do? I don't understand. I really don't get it. I mean, if I'm mad at somebody
and I disagree with somebody, I'm going to now tell you, you have to be mad at them and you
have to disagree, or you're just like them. You're a problem. This, or you're going to live in a
universe of one. Only you are living in that universe. And by the way, when you're mad at somebody,
Molly, I mean, you know, you've been living in California. I'm just guessing, but I'm guessing you
vote for Gavin Newsom over and over and over again. And I don't hate you for it. I don't even
think you're stupid. I am really confused by you and your neighbors and the reasoning sometimes,
but that's you're right. That's America. You know, I don't demand that you think like me. I don't grieve,
you know, my, my relatives, you know, I don't hate them because they, they don't agree with me.
We hash it out.
We roll our eyes and then pass the potatoes, will you?
I mean, I have lots of people in my family that disagree.
Lots of them disagree with me.
I'm not mad at them for that.
Not at all.
I learned from them.
You say you're aligned with values.
Good.
Great.
Let's talk about values for a second.
Here's one value that we all used to share.
The value of accepting that other people, even family, even people you love, are allowed to be wrong.
They're allowed to fail.
They're allowed to see a world through a different prism.
You know, this belief that everybody who doesn't agree with you, they're somehow another misinformed, that they're somehow lesser.
That if they don't vote the way you want, they're not voting for your family.
that's not democracy. That's the seed of authoritarian thinking, you know. It's the little voice that
whispers that the world would be better if people like you just made all the decisions for everybody
else. And that grow, that voice grows and grows and grows if you feed it. You know, I'll just ask you
this. If that's what you think, how does that end? Okay. I have to be mad at them because they don't
see it my way.
Okay.
Does that circle keep growing?
Because what do you do?
Do you force them eventually to see it your way?
Because if you've tried to convince them and they can't be convinced, your choice really
is love them or force them into silence, force them, shame them, shun them, strip their
voting rights away from, I mean, all of these choices, it gets worse and worse from there.
You try to convince them and if they don't see it your way,
you shrug your shoulders and say, pass the potatoes.
Am I wrong on that?
I mean, we're all headed towards Thanksgiving.
We're all headed for one of these showdowns.
We know it.
All right.
How are you going to react this year?
Because history shows there's only one road those impulses drive towards.
And it's not one lined with Liberty Trees.
Let's just say that.
You know, you accuse your family of choosing a dictator.
But did you notice what Gavin Newsom was doing during COVID?
Did you see that one?
No, because the ends justified the means.
It was totally okay to take religious people.
And if we have to throw them in jail, we'll throw them in jail.
I mean, people like him and he was even talking about, you know what, maybe we should pick these people up.
We deny them medical care if they don't take the jab.
Wait, what?
This, when you don't see it on your own side, because I see it on my side, I do, I see it on my side.
Stu and I talk about it all the time.
We are watching Donald Trump like a hawk.
You start messing with the Constitution.
We're all over you.
I see it on our side.
I see how it can happen.
I don't want it to happen.
I'll stand up.
I'll be with you if it starts to happen.
But if you can't recognize it on your own side, that blindness is how free nations lose their footing.
and when you say that them voting for Trump
is them not voting for your husband again
can I just ask gently
was he running for something because
I didn't I wasn't aware he was on the ballot
I didn't know I just thought he was a bad talk show host
in my opinion a bad talk show host you write for him
you're a producer I'm sure you well you're also married to him
so you love him but if if that's the standard
none of us stand a chance okay and by the way
I'm on the air every every single
single day. I have a family that disagrees with me. They're still my family. I love them. They love me.
Politics, you know, shouldn't break what God and blood and history has put together, you know.
So let's go back to values. Humility is one. Humility. That's the ballast that keeps the nation
steady. Yeah, but they were very upset when they were going to be canceled. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, now you know what it
feels like, huh? Now you know exactly what it feels like. I'm not for that. I stood up for your
husband. I don't think that he should be canceled. But you guys did make a creative choice. You
turned a late night comedy show into a message machine. And that's your right. And had it worked,
you would have rightly received the applause. Okay. Had you reinvented the whole thing and now you're
like, you know what? Now it's number one. And it's breaking all kinds of
records because I'm telling people what to think.
If it would have worked, you would have gotten the praise for it.
When it doesn't work, responsibility comes with the, you know, same door that credit would
have walked through.
So I'm just saying.
And actually, I'm glad, I'm glad you were on that.
I didn't know anything about that podcast.
And I'm not really interested in listening.
But I did read enough to help understand you a little bit more and your husband.
and it is just revealing what's happening in tens of millions of homes all over.
The sorrow and the strain and the belief that the political is now the personal and the disagreement is an attack and the family is conditional.
And it's heartbeating because that's not who we were.
It's not who we were.
And if that's who we want to be, then, you know, we're never going to fix this thing.
But I think we can fix it.
Now your husband's show, on the other hand, we don't think we're.
we can fix that.
Food?
Do you think we can fix them?
I don't think so.
I mean, I think it's theoretically fixable.
I think it's going to happen.
No.
I feel like with Kimmel, the sort of conservative shorthand is that he's not funny.
And like, I actually don't even think that's true.
I think there was a time he was pretty funny.
I just think that he made a choice that you just described to totally change what he's doing
into this other thing, which is just try to come up with the same five jokes on Donald
Trump every night.
And I don't think he's funny doing that.
But I think, you know, if you go back to, you know, his early career and maybe even early on the Kimmel show, I think some of that stuff was funny.
I just think he abandoned it, which, you know, is a choice.
You know, the easiest thing to do is, you know, we did this, do when we were young.
And we got into this.
We got into this to make fun of those people who took themselves so seriously.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, that was my biggest thing.
And, you know, number one rule on this show is make fun of me.
Because if I can't take it, then I shouldn't be dishing it out.
So make fun of me.
That is the number one rule.
Hit me as hard as you possibly can.
The second is, you know, don't take yourself so seriously.
And that one we struggle with.
That one is really hard.
You get into this position and you're like, well, you know what?
I have a responsibility.
I mean, I guess you do.
I mean, we do when we take it seriously, but we shouldn't take ourselves so seriously.
And I think that's the problem.
He takes himself so seriously.
Dude, you are talking to people who are watching you through their feet.
That's true.
The glimmering blue light is lighting up their toes as he makes these jokes.
That's a good point.
That's a good point. It's a way of looking at it.
I do think that's important because it's, because obviously if you don't take yourself seriously at all, you know, especially when you're in a role where you're talking about the news and analysis and stuff, that that's it.
You have to do some of that.
You have to at least try to get to real answers.
But if you over inflate what you're doing and the impact that you're having, you will make choices that make your show suck.
That is something that is completely true.
We've seen it before.
We've seen people that we know that have made those choices.
I'm sure we have many, many times.
We did and we saw how it tubed the show.
When you get to a place where you're like, you know what, I have the answer and everybody else is wrong.
You're done.
You're done.
You know, you just can't.
We need to take our jobs seriously, but not take ourselves so seriously.
And I don't think he takes his job seriously because that's not what a TV late night show is, you know.
It's not a classroom.
Glenn, in these serious times, you have to change it.
You have to.
In times like this with a tyrant like this, you must.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like they all go to the same process.
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So there's a couple of things.
Stu, I'd love to get your feeling.
Fox News, Laura Ingram, just did a really good interview with Donald Trump.
And she asked Trump to,
to defend the 600,000 Chinese students in the U.S.
I want you to listen to this.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.
Why, sir, is that a pro-Maga position when so many American kids want to go to school
and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money?
Sure.
Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China.
We always have China and other countries.
We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.
And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy,
you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.
So what?
Well, I think that's a big deal.
Are they fans of the United States?
Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities
would all be out of business.
You would have a system of colleges and universities would go down the tubes.
So we're dependent on China to keep our university system going?
But I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries.
Look, I want to be able to get along with the world.
They're not the French.
They're the Chinese.
They spy on us.
They steal our intellectual property.
Do you think the French are better?
Yeah.
Really?
I don't know.
I'll tell you, I'm not so sure.
We've had a lot of problems with the French where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology,
where, you know, they put 25% taxes on American products.
Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am.
but we take in
trillions of dollars
from students.
You know,
the students pay more than double
when they come in
from most foreign countries.
I want to see our
school system thrive,
but at the same time I want to be,
I know you and I disagree,
we're never going to agree on it,
but that's okay.
And it's not that I want them,
but I view it as a business.
What do you think of that?
That's an interesting clip.
I think she pushes them pretty hard on it,
which is...
I know.
I think she did a great job.
best she could. Yeah. And look, I think I generally understand his position there and that,
you know, I don't, I know a lot of people do. I don't consider it a negative to have people
coming in the country that are coming here legally. And ideally, here to make America better,
I think the problem is when you start importing people that are, as Laura outlined there,
oftentimes, and this has been documented pretty clearly, stealing our technology. I mean,
The whole rare earth issue was caused largely by that, not by students, but by Chinese industry
coming in and buying up a bunch of the technology and bringing it back and making it so that we
no longer had a massive advantage on that technology.
So I think that's a concern.
I think bringing in people is fine in my mind, but it is important to find, you know,
to be a little bit more deliberative on how you're deciding.
who's allowed to come in and do these things.
It's not just about money.
I think it's just purely a business.
I think that's fair.
I think the better argument here is,
why are we letting them fund our universities?
And I'm not talking about through students.
I'm talking about billions of dollars
that have been sent to our universities
to do, you know, the China studies
where they control a lot of our universities.
I don't want any of that.
No.
I don't want any of that.
I don't want any of that.
I don't want our, the problem is not with China.
The problem is with our universities.
That, that's the real problem.
And by the way, I mean, I don't think any, I'd love to see the number of Chinese students at Howard University.
I don't know.
That one kind of, that one kind of fell apart, that argument.
But, you know, the problem is, is with the universities and what else are they doing.
I don't have a problem educating the world.
You know, if we have the best, we have the best.
I don't think we do.
You know, but I don't know anybody who's better, quite honestly.
So maybe we do.
It's just a giant crap heap of education all around the world.
But, you know, the universities are just as hostile to America as the Chinese are.
Yeah, I think that's at least some of them.
That's definitely true.
When you think about the way the university system is set up,
you know, the very, very top are oftentimes the biggest offenders, right? And we are oftentimes
bringing these people in. We are not giving them what we would talk about as a, the type of
education and life that is going to endear them to America and make them believe that America
is the better path, right? I mean, the theory behind all of this is, I think, relatively okay,
which is you bring in people who are the most talented people in the world, they can
come in, they make your country better, they fall in love with America. That's the way it was for a long
time. This is not like some myth-on-haw-hological idea. You're sending six, you're sending 600,000 people
over to the United States. And, you know, you imagine if they would have done that with the Soviet
Union, how many people would have defected? Right. Yeah. And that's the thing. I think you have to
take it seriously. I don't think, you know, you're bringing in someone, there is a line there between
France and Canada.
Or excuse me, China.
China is an adversary.
Like they are, they have, I mean, we've uncovered these plans before.
They are legitimately doing these things intentionally.
The Confucius Institute, I mean, one of them where a lot of this has been caught and somewhat
reversed.
But a lot of that influence is still happening.
These are intentional plans by an adversary.
You don't have to play into those.
And that's, I think, the line between them there a little bit that she's trying to,
illuminate. Like, we don't have to play into the plans that are designed to sink our country.
And, you know, I would argue that TikTok is an even better version of this attack plan,
which we have allowed to permeate not just colleges, but down to kids that are 8, 9, 10, 11 years old.
I know.
So we don't have to play those games if we don't want to.
And it's not just China.
I mean, I don't have a problem of bringing people in from.
Saudi Arabia. I do have a problem with people who want to change the world into
Sharia law, you know, and a Muslim caliphate. I got a problem with those people.
I don't, no, thank you. I don't need you here. You know what I mean? Yeah, and if they do come,
let's keep them out of pilot school. And what did you say? I would argue if they do come,
let's keep them out of pilot school. I just, you know, it's just one minor, minor line. And we can
have different lines for different countries. Yeah. But yeah, flight school, not the place for them.
But I would say that, you know, there is a, you're right, like, there are good individual people in all of these places that could help the United States.
We know this. It's happened forever. It's been a big part of, you know, the idea that diversity is our strength is insane. It's not, that's not what it's nothing to do with diversity. But what it does have to do is taking in the best individuals from around the world in addition to all the great things that we have here. It's made us a better.
you know, it's made us a better country over the years.
We've been able to attract the best talent and the best people to come here and build things.
A lot of, I mean, Elon Musk is an example of this, right?
Like, Elon Musk is not an American.
He became here.
He loves America.
He loves American principles.
He believes in the country, and he's built incredible things here.
And, like, that's...
And he became an American.
And he became an American.
Right.
I mean, he wasn't an American at birth, excuse me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's not the path that we're talking about with many of these.
students from China.
They're coming in with a totally different idea.
They're taking our incredible education and all the great things that we have here.
And then going back and creating plans that are adversarial to this country.
That's a totally different thing.
We don't have to allow that.
We don't have to play that game.
And they're also buying up all of the best trailer parks, you know, in America.
You see in the newsletter today, you get our free email newsletter at glimbeck.com.
You get all the news, you know, that I go through every day.
And one of the stories is, I think it's a trailer park.
The Chinese just bought up all this land right next to where we develop the B2 bombers.
What, but, what?
Well, it's going to be cheaper land.
Those are loud planes, Glenn.
And so you get a good deal on that land.
It's hard to sell.
Hard to sell.
Only the Chinese, you know, are willing to buy that.
Well, can we stop this?
I mean, how, what is wrong with us?
Is there no one with common sense at all anymore?
anyone, Bueller, anybody?
Apparently not, apparently not.
Because everybody, you know what it is, everybody with common sense,
they're in Washington opening the government back up today.
And they've got a really good special deal going on
because we're not going to have this problem again until January.
Mark my words, next year, I hope this is wrong.
Gosh, I hope this is wrong.
But next year, this worked well for the Democrats,
and it hurts the economy.
Why not just keep doing this all next year?
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Oh, you know, we talked about health care, the, you know, the government opening up the, the, the government's opening up again.
Yay.
So we get all that great stuff that they do.
And it's all about health care.
And they're going to, they're going to close it down again in January.
And, and I said earlier today in hour number one, I did, you know, this.
several monologues on on health care, what's really going on.
And I think health care is the one place that if Donald Trump really wanted to make a difference in people's lives, this would be the fastest way to do it.
You know, the world has changed since 2016.
He could move things faster.
We had more things, you know, at our disposal.
And now he's got to make long-term decisions, which he's making all over the world.
He's making all these deals.
But, you know, the fastest way to make an impact in people's lives is to take care of.
of health health care and it's you know it's not a government subsidy that's going to do it
it's it's getting rid of obamacare quite honestly um and i and i said i think that rfk
uh is probably the guy who could probably help with that i mean at least they're thinking
about doing things i know that um uh i know that i talk to dr oz and they're they're
pushing something through the states here soon we should get them on um that talk
about it because I was excited about what I heard, but what little I heard about. But, you know,
we worry about all of these things with our health care. And we, you know, we worry about what are we
putting into ourselves, all this stuff that we're, you know, we're putting into our bodies now.
And, you know, we got to care about, you know, toxins and ingredients and clean and, you know, stop our
dirty eating and all this stuff. We look at our health care and we notice our, our, you know,
We were talking about our food and what we're putting in our food and what we're putting in our bodies because we're seeing that we're really an unhealthy people.
And what is doing that?
And meanwhile, we are shoveling toxins into our brains like there is no tomorrow.
We just do not look at what we are shoveling into our minds.
We have the endless scrolling, you know, the buzzing phones, the bite-sized videos, the shouts, the shouts, the shodeled, the shodd
shallow feeds all of this crap we are ingesting toxins of the mind it's fair and vital to talk
about you know what are we doing to our bodies but you know if our body is the temple of life
this is the command center this is the one that's calling all the shots of what our bodies are doing
you know what happens when we you know feed our minds you know low nutrient high engagement shallow
junk.
I'm going someplace with this,
and it's going to blow your mind.
The average person spends
two hours and 21 minutes a day
on social media.
That's the average person.
Two hours and 21 minutes a day on social media.
Approximately 141 minutes
every single day scrolling.
The average American
are on-screen time
Overall, the average American spends six hours and 38 minutes every day on screens connected to the internet.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
Time just gone.
Just vanished into what?
Update, scrolls.
What is it that we're reading?
Seriously.
Are we exercising our soul with deep thought?
Do you know that leisure reading in the U.S.
has fallen. Only 16% of Americans age 15 plus read for their own enjoyment on an average day.
15. That number was almost 30% in 2003. Fewer books. U.S. adults in 2021 said they read on average
12.6 books a year down from 15 in 2002 to 2016. So we're losing reading skills. We're losing
deeper thought, we're losing hours of conversation. We're losing how many hours of reflection,
at least minutes, maybe 100 minutes, our attention spans. How long can you focus on something?
You know, the second screen was different. When we first started Blaze, I talked about doing second
screen technology, and it wasn't because you couldn't watch something. They're now talking about
taking your TV show or your your Netflix show and dumbing it down so much because people are
watching or they're scrolling while they're watching the TV and so they can't follow a complex
storyline.
Oh my gosh, we are just going to be just stupid slugs.
Everything that we're doing online is fracturing attention, memory, and sustained reasoning.
So at what point does this become an epidemic?
At what point are our minds starving for any kind of nutrition as we just feed them calories of noise?
Now let me tell you the real story.
AI is holding a mirror up for us.
There's a new study that came out.
LLMs can get brain rot.
Okay, that caught my eye.
Large language models, LLMs.
They are trained on junk web content.
So viral, shallow, high engagement stuff.
And all it does is it's just cataloging all this stuff and just consuming all of this stuff that we're scrolling through every day.
Okay.
Do you know what's happening to the LLM?
it's experiencing cognitive decline.
It can't,
its reasoning ability is dropping, falling through the floor.
Long context memory, gone.
And dark personality traits,
psychopathic tendencies and narcissism has increased.
This is with an AI, okay?
And when the junk content ratio rose from zero to
100% if you're just scrolling for junk, the reasoning benchmark falls from 75% to almost 55%.
Its ability to understand long, you know, long form context falls from 85% to about 50%.
Now here's the scariest part.
They caught this and they're like, holy cow, look at what's happening to the large language model.
It's completely decaying.
You know, we've just been doing this for a year now and look at what's happened.
It's not reasoning anymore.
It's turning dark.
It can't understand long form content anymore.
Let's get it off that.
Let's start putting good clean stuff into it.
Even after retraining on clean high quality data, the models never recover the baseline capacity.
Okay, the rot remains.
As a man or now as a machine thinketh, so he becomes.
I've been blown away by this study for the last few weeks.
It came out a couple of weeks ago, and I'm headed on my desk,
and I've wanted to tell you about it, and just having that time.
And it's just, it's just keeps, I just keep thinking,
this is a machine.
This is not our brain.
This is, this is a machine that is using the same kind of crap.
I mean, what happens if you don't monitor what you think or worse yet when we stop thinking?
AI is teaching us a lesson and I guarantee this study's been out for weeks.
Never heard it, did you?
Nobody's talking about it.
It's screaming at us.
Hey, learn a lesson.
When you feed nothing but low nutrient attention hooking, high engagement junk,
the capacity to reason, to remember, and to care degrades.
Aren't we seeing this now?
Do people care as much as they used to?
Nope.
Can they reason?
Nope.
Can they remember what happened yesterday?
Nope.
My gosh, don't worry about AI taking over, controlling us, programming our lives.
Look at ourselves.
We've already signed.
over our lives to an algorithm.
We're studying AI brain rot.
But is anybody studying, you know, brain, brain rot?
Maybe, maybe we do recognize it.
Maybe we, we do recognize it.
But, you know, we're too apathetic to wean ourselves off the digital heroin.
It's hard.
It is hard.
But when the nature of what we ingest for body and mind becomes shallow, the body
suffers, but the mind sinks deeper.
And we live in an age where we might be less full of nourishment, but full of distraction.
We talk less.
We actually listen less.
We read fewer books, you know, where our minds just flit instead of dive.
Our attention span is almost gone and make no mistake.
This is not just a matter of convenience or lifestyle.
This is creeping into the structure of who we are individually and collect.
What is this going to do to our children?
I mean, even if we stopped right now and we wanted to change, we, according to the brain rot study, we won't get that baseline back.
Do we pass this stuff on?
Is it get to a point to where we're just pumping out morons?
I mean, we're already doing that.
But I mean, you know, I mean, really pumping out morons.
At what point is this an epidemic where anybody even recognizes it?
it when when is it where our ability to think critically is so diminished we cannot be a free
people are we there yet i told you earlier i went to the bookstore yesterday my son and i went
to the bookstore and i was like we're getting books as i haven't read i've been reading
online it's not the same it's just not the same you got you can't remember because you remember
sometimes with your fingers you remember where it is in the book you know i can't remember
can never find anything digitally. I can never find where it is in the book. I'm looking for it.
I can't find it. But I know right where those facts are if I'm reading a physical copy of a book.
And, you know, deep reading, quiet reflection, sustained dialogue, pretty rare, pretty where.
Our mental health, our social health, uh, you know, kind of going down. You know, civic health.
I wrote it a little bit. I think we all agree with that.
even when artificial intelligence is trained on junk content, degrade in reason,
and we still feed ourselves the same thing.
Are we going to keep doing that?
Are we going to choose to do something different?
Well, the first thing is we got to get people to understand it.
We got to get people.
Can we get people to even underdo it?
Can we really?
Can we get people to actually listen to this?
And then engage again in thoughtful reading and conversation and meaningful silence.
It starts with awareness and then choice.
What do you permit?
What are you going to put into your body?
What do you permit into your mind?
Otherwise, one day we're all going to look around and we're going to realize we didn't just lose time.
We lost the capacity to deeply think and deeply connect, deeply live.
Or then again, maybe we're just so stupid and shallow that we don't know.
We're like, I'm happy.
Am you happy?
I can't.
What was the question?
What are you saying?
Maybe that's, I mean, maybe that's, maybe that's a better life.
I love my family.
I don't know who my family is, but I love them.
Paul Dict, I don't vote.
I don't vote for a long time.
Look what's on YouTube.
Tick, talk, tick to talk, tick dog.
Okay.
It's up to us, America.
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uh Glenn so you're just to back up what you were just talking about face-to-face
socializing time uh for all Americans since 2003 down 20 percent and if you think about just
that holy way wait what think about that your time just socializing with other people
it down 20 percent for all Americans over the past 20 years
But that's not even the craziest part.
Younger Americans, it's down 40 to 50%.
Time spend attending or hosting social events has fallen with about between 50 and 70% among young adults since 2003.
That's a total.
Think of the damage isolation did with COVID.
Just think of that.
What is this kind of self-imposed isolation?
What are the ramifications?
That is stunning.
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