The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn Returns to Apple Podcasts with a VENGEANCE | Guest: Sohrab Ahmari | 8/17/23

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

Glenn discusses the takedown of free speech at the corporate level after Apple took down every episode of his podcast and appears to be taking its time putting them back. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss Glenn's Apple podcast takedown and the current state of Maui as the wildfires continue to ravage the area. Mercury One's website was hacked yesterday after Glenn asked his audience to donate money to help with the Maui disaster. Glenn discusses the government failures and possible causes of the disastrous Maui wildfires. Glenn and Stu discuss the show's audience and the amazing things they've been a part of. "Tyranny, Inc." author Sohrab Ahmari joins Glenn to discuss how we can dismantle the tyranny we're seeing at the corporate level.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Our plan is working wonderfully. Here's what's happening. Yesterday we pulled down Glen Beck podcast. 3,300 podcasts. Everybody freaks out. So what we do? We say, we're restoring podcast. Yes, Apple.

Apple doing the right thing. Restoring podcasts. but will only put 1,915 podcasts back, not full 3,300 podcasts. Victory! Nobody will ever

know. We just take down podcasts we don't like and then restore about half of them. Oh, they will never see it coming. Dumb Glenbeck people don't know how to count. Really?

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They removed every last episode from Apple Podcasts. It was removed with no explanation why for several hours. As soon as I heard the news, I posted a video to Twitter or X or whatever. I'm never going to get used to that. Is anybody really going to start calling it X? I don't think so. They're really doing the Prince thing with it where it's like the artist formerly known as Prince. Every article is like X, the.

artists for the social media site formerly known as Twitter. It's like, oh, great. So you've taken a six or seven letter, whatever, T-E-R-7 letter word, whatever it is. And you've shortened it to one and then added three sentences on to explain what it means. Thanks a lot, Elon. Appreciate it. Anyway, I got into X yesterday and I asked you to join me in demanding answers from Apple. Well, thankfully, a lot of people came out in force.

Yeah. We were trending on X all day with people on both the left and the right calling Apple out. I was so happy to see so many people on the left who would post. I totally disagree with him. But this is wrong. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for that.

So thank you if you did any of it because after six hours of you raising all kinds of ruckus online, Apple restored my show to their platform. Well, 1,915 episodes of 3,000 plus catalog. Hmm. So they removed at least a decade worth of content yesterday without explanation, at least until we started making noise about it. Today, I read an article in variety that said the podcast was removed because of a trademark dispute and quote it has since been resolved really really a trademark wow over 3,000

episodes all over a trademark issue. That is weird. Not going to get into the weeds over this, but there was a trademark dispute on one episode. They let us know on I think on June 29th, It was resolved within hours. We're like, not really. Now, if that is the reason, that's one episode. We resolved it with them within hours. Why would you remove over 3,000 episodes for a dispute with one? It's a great question.

Unless you were the one filing a dispute saying, someone's using my name. There's no real reason to pull the episode. I don't pull those. Yeah, no, of course not. It doesn't explain why they would remove the entire catalog. At least to me, it doesn't. Apple still has not responded to that.

Yesterday is a prime example where I learned firsthand why the blaze is so important. I learned the power of these middlemen. if you're a conservative, the threat of deplatforming is always there. Even in the background, like the sword of Damlachlis. Is that how you say his name of Damocles? Remember the guy who's holding the sword over the head? This is why we built the blade.

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Get on the ship. I'm amazis. Companies like Apple and Google and meta can shut down your speech, our speech, literally with a keystroke. The elites have always wanted to control what you see and what you hear. Now, big tech is giving them the means. to do it. They have done this to several of us. Since the Republicans

have had Congress, they've been a little more shy. But I will tell you, yesterday would have been a loss of about 3 million views. If you're not getting the podcast from Apple, if that's where you normally go, there's about 3 million people that do that every day. Uh, that's a problem.

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there was no warning, there been no strikes, there was nothing, just gone. And everybody started pouring into my office going, Glenn, you're off Apple. What happened? I'm like, I don't know what happened. What are you talking about off Apple? Completely deleted the entire library. Kind of your life flashes in front of your eyes. you're like, holy cow, are we going to be able to get messages to our audience?

Thank God, Elon Twitter. Elon is at Twitter or X. I like what he's doing with the censorship stuff, just not as much the naming stuff. Yeah, I know. But I mean, it is important. Like, you know, yesterday, this one is pseudo-resolved. I mean, you know, again, I put pseudo in there because only about half the episodes seem to be there.

But okay, maybe who knows what that is. My point, though, is that there's going to be a time where these things come off and they don't come back. They don't come back. And if we don't have contact with you, you won't know. You won't know. You won't know what happened to us. If we don't have a direct line to you. So please, this is the biggest discount we've offered ever. It will not be censored. It'll save you $30 off your one-year subscription when you use it at checkout. We need you with us now more than ever. I will tell you that I think something is there's just a lot of things in my life that's always a trend you know when you're getting close to doing something really really big uh and i don't know what that is but when you're

getting close to doing something big there's all kinds of problems that keep cropping up and we're in that kind of a period right now and i just said to i just said to a friend of mine who was coming into work with me today i said i i have a feeling we're on the verge of something. I don't know what it is, but my gosh, look at this string of coincidence. Now, yesterday, I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but yesterday's podcast was who's the real crime family? Trump or Biden? We are over the target on this, and we're not going to let it go. So please join us. By the way, we're When they restore the show in its entirety, then you can let up on Apple on X.

That's when you can go in and say, all right, Apple did the right thing. But so far, 1915 podcasts have been restored. And we are over 3,000. It's about 33 and change. So what's happening? Now, this is something that I told. talked about in dark future. And I want to read what I wrote just recently because it applies directly to this. This is the example of what I was talking about in dark future. And it applies

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In the future, you will. will own nothing. This is from my new book. Chapter 5. To most, the idea of not knowing anything probably seems like a far off concept, especially when you think about it through the lens of capitalistic consumer-centric culture that we now live in. How could we possibly shift toward a society like the one that's described in the You'll Own Nothing article? The answer is gradually, then all at once. I say this with confidence. because we already see this trend playing out in a number of industries. For example, one aspect of our economy where the idea of owning nothing has developed the fastest

is in the entertainment industry. Technological innovation has dramatically altered the way we access movies, television, short films, podcasts, music, and other forms of entertainment. I then highlight the dangers in the book of not owning physical media by talking about the rise of popularity in streaming services like Netflix and Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And I write, the data printed onto a disc or recorded on a cassette or there permanently. If the physical media remains undamaged, I'll have access to that data forever. This is not the case when dealing with streaming services.

The data for the movie, as it exists on a streaming service servers, like those owned by Netflix, are fluid. at any time Netflix could take down Top Gun. Its copyright owners could alter the movie, and then Netflix could upload it, re-upload it, without any warning to the consumer at home. They can do this because you don't own the content. They do. You are just renting access to the film. Later in the same chapter, I wrote, The Music and Podcast Streaming Service, Spotify, also has moderated content due to the social pressure.

Podcasting giant Joe Rogan had more than 100 episodes removed by Spotify because of an alleged instance of misinformation which included dangerous things like interviewing Dr. Robert Malone, a scientist who helped develop the MRNA vaccines. Don't expect the sensors to stop there. Later, I wrote in the book, the point of all of this is to say, when you don't own physical media, that media is a substantial media is, susceptible to change. The corporations that do

own the media can do whatever they want with it. If a show contains a joke that is considered too cruel or tasteless by current societal norms, delete it. If a movie's depiction of a person, gender, orientation, or race is no longer socially acceptable, change it.

If you hold a movie show or even a piece of music near and dear to your heart, you might want to consider owning a physical copy because nothing is stopping the corporation that owns it from altering or destroying it completely if the political winds blow hard enough. Now, you might be thinking as the reader of this book, Glenn, why are you spending so much time talking about movies and streaming services?

I picked up this book to read about the future in the World Economic Forum. What does this have to do with property rights and private ownership? Think about what control these corporations. have over your media when you don't own it. Then imagine what they could do in a world where you don't own anything and the corporation and governments own everything. What happened yesterday with the Apple podcast on my program is exactly why ownership matters. It is exactly why elites in the Biden administration,

Davos, Wall Street firms like BlackRock, want to consolidate property. That's why they need ownership. It's why the government is so eager to work hand in hand with giant corporations. If you don't own the platform, the media, the news, or opinion product, then you don't control it. It can be altered without any warning like it was yesterday. Deleted from history, thousands of episodes. over a decade of my work for no real reason, they can cancel it.

This is the future that is being imposed on the world. And if you don't understand it, the day will soon come when the only voices you hear are approved by the ruling class and corporate elites. Please join us at Blaze TV. Please join us. by the way, I just have to say thank you to a couple of people. It was really remarkable all of the people that came out yesterday to help. Looks like I may have to go elsewhere to listen to podcast if Apple is going to remove Glenn Beck's program from the podcast.

A whole lot of us are going to say, we found issue with Apple from Mike Lee. He followed it up with Glenn Beck having such a large audience who'd think Apple would be reluctant to take this step. Sometimes such behavior can be observed with companies that face so little competition in a particular field that they don't fear alienating millions of customers. J.D. Vance also said need some answers from Apple ASAP. This looks like an awful lot like a major American corporation engaging in election interference. Donald Trump Jr. said big tech censorship is the biggest threat to free speech and free expression in America. Apple's now engaging in open election interference by censoring Glenn Beck for telling the truth about Joe Biden's corruption. Jeremy Boring from the Daily Ryer wrote, this must be a mistake. Glenn is one of the best men in the business and perhaps the greatest living broadcaster.

Well, he said living. He said that. I was like, good God, that's really sad. Yeah. I saw that comment. I was like, oh, that's crazy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Ed Krasenstein, who noted he disagrees with me much of the time, said conservative commentator Glenn Beck has reportedly been banned from Apple iTunes without any explanation. First, I must say, I completely disagree with so much of what Glenn Beck has to say, and I think a lot of his politics are absurd. With that said, if Beck actually has been banned merely for voicing his free speech, I think it's wrong of Apple to do. It'll be interesting to see what reason Apple gives for this banning or if it was done by mistake. I'm unaware of any recent major controversy or hateful over the top message that Beck has spread over the airwaves. Yeah, we had one of those in like two weeks. I know. So I mean, what's the problem?

But thank you for that. We have to return to the country that my father always. The Glenn Beck program. Always held up to me and said, you know, I so disagree with what you're saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say. say it. All right, I want to tell you about Jason. He's a part-time minister at his local church. He serves on the city council. In fact, he's the youngest person in his town to ever be elected to city council. He serves on the board for a startup organization, takes Christ-centered

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Go to blazsdiv.com slash Glenn. Use the promo code will not be censored and save 30 bucks. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program and welcome to Mr. or should I say sir. Pat Gray. Hello. Yes. How are you? Oh, why would we say sir? Why would you say sir? Well, he was knighted. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You have nerd? Knights of Columbus. Yeah. Knights of Columbus. Congratulations.

It's actually the Moose Lodge. Is it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. You're very anti-Nights of Columbus, aren't you? Yes. And the Elks Club don't even get you started on.

Don't get me started. He's a moose. What about the Shriners? Don't like them. Really? Stupid hats. I can't take it. Can't take it.

You know, whatever happened to the Shriners and their stupid hats and the little cars? I don't know. You never see them in parades anymore. Growing up, did you go to a lot of parades to news? I do actually. I spend my summers in small towns, and so I do go to parades. And no shriners in the parades. No, seriously, no shriners.

And I'm a little upset about it. This is going to be coming up on the Wednesday special for Glenn Beck. Yeah. Where are all the shriners? Immediately pulled down my Apple podcast. What have they done with all the Shriners? Apple's got them in a basement. So that's completely worked out, though, now, right?

The Apple situation is completely fixed. You fixed. Yeah. Yeah. Well, except for half the catalog. Ah. Yeah. Well, it's half the catalog.

Yeah. I know. I mean, it was, you know, it was a hundred shows for Joe Rogan and the world was on fire. This is, you know, just about 1,500 shows. That's all that is. This is, by the way, if you're looking to get the podcast, it is still available on other podcast platforms. That's important to note a lot of people only use Apple Podcasts. There are other places you can go.

I know Google Podcasts, for example. Oh, I trust Google. But there's other companies. I use an app called Overcast, which I just like better than these other podcast apps. But Stitcher is another one. It's up. I mean, again, it's not to say they're not going to pull it down from these other apps as well. But at least if you're looking for a particular show, you can't find an Apple podcast.

What is Adam Curry's podcast location? Because he wrote to me last night and he's like, dude, it's going to happen all of us one by one. He's been talking about this for a while. It seems to me that somebody's. said that's why they created the blaze was because at one time in the future yeah i don't know who that was yeah seemed a little visionary now but um yeah yeah that's weird kind of weird yeah kind of weird uh but uh we'll let you know when the entire catalog is restored if the entire catalog is restored i believe apple just it takes them a it takes them a second to delete but to

upload all of them. Oh, that's a painstaking process. I bet that happens by the time the show is over today, because it'll take that long. I do, actually. It better be. I don't know what I'm saying. All I'm saying. Okay. So, Pat, you've been following what's going on in Maui? Oh, yeah. What are your thoughts on this? It seems, there seems to be some suspicious elements going on there. And I don't like to do the conspiracy thing all the time, but everything is a conspiracy. No, you know what it is. Nobody, I'm doing a podcast. They don't explain things to us.

Right. For one thing. They won't tell us why certain things are happening. Like when they shut off the placards to everybody, a cop shows up. There's a line, I don't know, how many people long. And they're all waiting for placards to, so that they can go to various places on island and check their homes, see if they burn down or not. A lot of people wanted to, you know, and you have to have a placard to go, presumably, because

certain areas are still unsafe. That's what I would think anyway. So they're handing these out. A police officer just shows up and says, oh, no more. We're not giving any more out. They're like, what? Why? We're going to check on our homes.

Yeah, I don't know any other information. I was just told to shut it down. Well, that's not adequate. By who and why? Why? Why? We don't know. Why did you shut off power to certain areas? Water. Why was the water turned off? What is going on? It's bizarre. How come it took so long to warn people? Well, Pat, this was a fire hurricane.

Right. Fire hurricane. They call it a fire hurricane. Yeah. And scientists have never heard of this term before, but the governor of Hawaii has heard of it. He's done the research and found out what a fire hurricane. hurricane is. Okay. Even though the hurricane was 700 miles off the coast of Hawaii, it was a fire hurricane. So wait, the fire hurricane was over the water? Well, look, I'm not a scientist.

I can't. That's weird. And most scientists also, it's such advanced research. They didn't know that there was such a thing as a fire hurricane until the governor said it. But there is, and we saw one just the other day. Wow. I mean, this is so embarrassing. That is really weird.

it is. That is really weird. You know, there's a couple of other things that are, I don't know. Unusual? Unusual. Maybe worth asking about it. More unusual than a fire hurricane. Well, I don't know about that.

So there's a couple of things that I find very interesting. Did you know that, you know, they didn't have the, they didn't have the, they didn't have the water. They didn't set off the sirens. And they failed to evacuate anybody. But this is the fire hurricane. This is global warming, though. That's the thing.

They couldn't have done any of this because of all the SUVs that we're driving in like Texas. This is the new thing that Democrats are doing. It's now not just, hey, global warming is an excuse to take over the economy, which of course all that still exists. You know, they will utilize.

every single one of these things to get more power and more control. But in addition to that, when they screw up their day-to-day jobs, they also had this global warming excuse, which is a get-out-of-jail-free card. You can't blame me. I wasn't the Republican who drilled for oil in Alaska. That wasn't me. That was them. I sure all of our safety systems failed.

That's not my fault. That's global warming. And the Republicans who did that to you. It's so infuse. I'm sorry, Glenn. Did you, did you know that the, the chief of police that was, you know, the guy that was in charge of the sirens and everything else, he's just taking a job there. He has zero emergency experience. Well, there was some.

There was some emergency experience. Okay. Do you know this on the mainland? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's some. Okay. Yeah.

He was the guy that was in charge of the security for the strip in Las Vegas. during the time the shooting the shooting happened yeah wow is that interesting that's true yeah that's true yeah that's true

and but then he left there for a while and he went to the Department of Justice to receive new training and now he's now he's the head guy there in that particular place in Hawaii

yeah weird isn't it strange very strange there's some strange things that all, I mean, all, I'm sure, just amazing coincidence. Just amazing coincidence. And they very well could be. And they could be. They very well could be.

Right. But this government has done nothing. You know, there's a, we did a show on FEMA and how FEMA is now being trained to, when they go into a place that has been destroyed by a natural disaster, of course, caused by global warming, they're to green it, greenify, and build back better. Now, what's weird is there's been all these calls to all of these people who can't seem to call anybody, but these real estate agents have called, and they're offering all kinds of money, and this is really upset the governor of Hawaii.

Yes, I saw that. And so he's thinking about building a memorial there. there instead of building homes back, he's going to be building a memorial to how bad this fire was. So think of that. My house burns down and I can't go back to rebuild my house

because it's now a memorial for people who lost their house and their lives. By the way, can I expand on this just a little bit? The governor is talking about banning people selling their homes to mainlanders because of all these these ravenous real estate people who are coming in and harassing these people, if you will. Right.

Because they lost their home. And people are going, hey, I'll buy it. I'll buy your land if you want. And this is a huge problem for people. And like, look, if your home just burned down, there's a good chance. It would be really annoying to get a call from a real estate person offering you money for your house. I get that. I understand that.

It might not be the most fun thing. First of all, when someone has a situation like that, you don't necessarily ban the practice, right? Like, that's not normally how society works in America. Hey, someone doesn't like an offer from a real estate agent or whatever. You ban all real estate sales. Not normally the response, but I get this is an extenuating. This is a pretty crazy scenario. But like, what if you happen to be a person who lived in this area and you're thinking to yourself,

you know, maybe I don't want to wait 10 years until they build this. town back. Maybe I would like to cash out right now and I want to move somewhere else. And it's just my choice. I would like to move to Idaho. I want to move to Florida. I want to move to the other side of the island. I just want to get out of this. You know what? I understand. I love this community. But like I don't want to wait for this. I'm 78 years old. I don't want to spend my last 10 years waiting for them to rebuild my town. I want to go somewhere else. And now the governor's going to ban you from selling your house. And that is completely ridiculous. And every place it's is like these bastard capitalists who are calling these people and asking them to sell their house.

Look, I get that it might be annoying and it might be above and beyond what you've already gone through. Or it might be a blessing. Or it might be a blessing for some people. Yeah. Let them make that choice. Not you, this horrible governor. No, they can't. People are too stupid.

You can't make that decision. People are desperate. They're homeless and they're stupid. And so you can't let them. He knows best. He knows better. That's what it's supposed to be. Yeah.

And sure, they don't have the labor to rebuild. And it's going to take at least two years to clean up. But are you going to deprive those people of two years of cleanup and then endless amounts of fun in rebuilding their house? Yeah. Because it sounds like a blest. And then when your house is built and there's no stores around for years on time. Here's the good thing. the state will eventually just say, okay, we've cleaned it up and it's going to be too much.

And it's such a scar on our communities that we're going to make it into a national preserve. And then they'll pay you less for your house than the capitalist was willing to pay. Oh, I'm sure it's much less. And so then you'll have the two years, plus maybe about another two years of fighting it. And then you'll move anyway. Yeah, when you're like 108 years old, there'll be a Supreme Court case that you get to see as it eventually goes up. Why not waste the next 30 years of your life litigating this? I mean, look, I'm not saying, I'm recommending people.

If they want to do it, they can. But like, to prevent it legally, people can't make offers on your home. The other thing they're doing is like, I can't believe these tourists are still coming to Hawaii. I don't know. The people on the other side of the island whose entire lives. Depends on tourists coming to Hawaii might disagree with you. Yeah, well, they don't want that either. It seems that way.

This is the dark future kicking in. This is dark future. Everything I write about in that book, that's what's happening in Hawaii. They're going to seize that land. They're going to block capitalism. They're trying to make it so more people can't come. They're trying to make it a smart island. Yeah.

I mean, it's... And that's why they don't want capitalists coming in. and buying a property because they want it. Wait, what is a smart island? Where it's all controlled by AI. Really? You haven't heard that theory too? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's not a theory. It's not a theory. I haven't heard about a smart island, but I know about smart cities, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, they wanted the whole island to be, wow, smart. We always think that smart city is like, oh, they got Wi-Fi everywhere.

Yeah, yeah. That's not what a smart city is. No? But no, read all about it in the book, dark future. Available wherever you get your books. All right, my Patriot supply. You are what you're doing today. Make sure that you have some time set away to make sure that your family is set up for emergency food. Store it for yourself and your family. Things can get much, much worse than they are now, and they will. Before it gets better, it will get darker. Disaster can strike at any time. And from the number of locations that it can strike from, the very last thing you want to do is stand in line at a

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Right. Let's see. What else do we have? We're going to pick up Hawaii again because I have some really good, I have some really good news. Let's, can we please play cut one? This is Podesta, celebrating the one year anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act. Here it is. As Kareen noted, we're marking the one year anniversary of a truly transformative piece of legislation, the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the largest, investment in clean energy and climate action ever. I thought it was an inflation reduction. The United States and history of the world. But first, I want to acknowledge that today's event is coming during a time of heartbreak as the toll of extreme weather fueled by climate change is being felt across the country and the world.

This summer has brought one climate disaster after another from extreme heat in Arizona and Texas and across the southeast to floods in Vermont and upstate New York to thick smoke from Canadian wildfires. And all of us have watched in horror as the Maui fires have claimed over 100 lives, the largest loss of life of a fire in the last hundred years in America. To stop these disasters from getting even worse, we have to cut the carbon pollution that's driving the climate crisis. And that's what an idiotic response.

It makes the largest investment. Stop. First of all, I mean, why is the largest investment, the most important investment, the most important investment in climate change called the Inflation Reduction Act. Because they were lying? Yeah. And couldn't get it through the right way. So they just

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and they're blaming it on global warming and climate change and all kinds of weird things are happening. We're going to take you through this fire and show you exactly what we do know. And that strangely does not answer why. Why certain things are being done, but maybe the book Dark Future does. The strange story of the fire in Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii.

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town Lahaina, in times of profound tragedy, Glenn's audience has rallied around those enduring profound need and suffering through generous giving. On air this week, Glenn rallied the troops again to support the grieving communities in Maui challenging his audience to raise more money than the U.S. government aid package. And you're doing just this. I want you to listen this. As of 8.52 p.m. yesterday, you, Glenn's audience, raised $472,824 for the people of Maui via Glenn's nonprofit Mercury 1. That's nearly half a million dollars raised within the first couple of days to our call of action to match the government's aid package, which has now been raised to a whopping $2.3 million

through FEMA. That means this audience alone has done one-fifth of the lifting. the entire FEMA and United States government has done. One fifth, all of those proceeds, every single penny will go towards the residents as they grieve and rebuild in the tough days ahead. Through your committed support,

we are well on its way, our way to surpassing the government's package. This is something that I said when I first started Mercury 1. If we want the government to do less, than we have to do more. I would love if this audience will never be recognized for it, but it doesn't matter. We're not doing it for that.

I would love to be able to say that this audience raised more for Maui than the federal government did. Why do we need the federal government involved in all of our lives? Now, yesterday, so you know, our website was hacked into, and Apple dropped my podcast. So all of this was done yesterday, just on the power of the radio program or people listening on other things other than Apple,

the radio, Blaze TV, and other than Apple podcast listeners. We can do so much more. And I want to tell you how bad things really, truly are. I got a note yesterday from somebody and they said, Glenn, I just got this about 10 minutes ago. Things are deteriorating rapidly. We have a corporate accountant who does a lot of business in Lahaina. I sent him a clip of a girl talking about what was happening there.

Here was his response. Total disaster in every way. Fire hydrants did not work. No one was evacuated. No police or fire crew helping evacuate. I can't even file insurance claims for 20 businesses as the area is locked down by National Guard, so insurance injusters can't even observe the ruins in person, question mark, question mark, question mark. No claim can be filed, question mark.

I've been dealing with this all week, and I'm told their bodies everywhere, and for a week they've been hiding the death toll. no local leadership. Maui now taken over by the feds. None of these people will have enough money to rebuild. Too expensive as everything has to be new building codes. That'll mean rich people will buy the land and will be even less housing for locals. It will end up being the worst natural disaster in our history. 95% of the island is untouched by this. A rebuild of Lahaina will take 10 years. The cleanup alone will take two to three years as there is

no infrastructure or labor to do it. That's the note I received last night. I want you to know that because of you, we are already doing amazing things.

We have Operation Barbecue Relief, Samaritan's Purse, Operation Blessing, IT DRC, Harvest Church, which that's Greg Lori's church in California, but he also has sister church in Maui. Drew Friedrich, chief operating officer.

I got a note from him from Operation Blessing. He said, I want you to know, you were the first organization on the ground to provide aid. Operation Blessing, we have helped them to get there. Let's see, Samaritan's purse, they wrote in, thank you, thank you, thank you, the generosity of your audience. and Mercury 1, which has helped us airlift 17 tons of supplies to Maui in the wake of the deadliest fire. Supplies on that DC-8 cargo aircraft include hygiene kits, solar lights, cooking kits, plastic tarp, equipment needed for us to help in the aftermath of this disaster as residents are allowed to return to their communities. Samaritan's purse volunteers will help homeowners sift through the ashes for any sentimental keepsakes that may have survived.

the flames. Also, Operation Barbecue Relief is there and they provide food, hot food, for any of the workers and also any of the families who have been displaced. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The attack on our website did not slow you down yesterday. And I find it interesting that two things happened yesterday. As I just said, we want to raise more money than the federal government because we want them to do less. As I was in that commercial, went into that commercial break, hackers hacked into Mercury 1.org and took the entire site down. Luckily, we have a very good security team and it went right back up probably within an hour or so.

But our staff over at Mercury 1 just started taking phone calls, people making donations. This is one that we really want to be helpful with because these are not rich people on Hawaii. This is a local historic town. And what's being done to it, I think you can find in Dark Future, the book that I wrote. But let me just give you the facts of what happened. because it is not what's being reported. I'll do that in 60 seconds first. Time to take your pet experience to the next level.

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So I want to give you something from the von Mises people. This is from Mises.org. I think it is such a great article that I should read it verbatim. the most destructive natural disasters are never 100% natural. Human choices, land use, and government policies play a big role in how harmful hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, flash floods, and wildfires are to affect communities. Though the details are still emerging, it has become clear that government failure did much to make this disaster worse, and possibly even started it. While the so-called experts are blaming climate change

and in the process demanding that government grab even more power and authority to someday give us better weather, the destructiveness of this fire was the product of an all-powerful and all-incompetent regime. The specific origins of this fire are still being investigated, but there is much we already know. The city of Lahaina sits on the west coast of Maui, Hawaii's second largest island.

It's surrounded by grassland, much of which is owned by the state. This is really important. Nearly a decade ago, Hawaii Wildlife Management Organization, a research nonprofit, warned the Hawaiian government that the area around Lahaina was extremely fire-prone due to frequent downslope winds, steep terrain, and dry grass. Little to nothing was done by the state government to address these risks. A subsequent report in 2020 added that an invasive species of exceptionally flammable grass was prevalent in the surrounding fields and that passing hurricanes created strong winds

known to fuel wildfires on the islands. Early last week, Hurricane Dora crossed the ocean south of Hawaii. By early Tuesday morning, August 8th, winds as fast as 60 miles an hour were blowing down the slopes of West Maui Mountains into Lahaina. Around sunrise, a large fault was detected in the power grid, indicating a downed power line. 20 minutes later, the first reports of fire came in from an area around the road uphill and upwind from the city. The area where flames were first spotted is full of electrical infrastructure, mostly operated by Hawaiian Electric, the state's monopoly electricity supplier. This included a substation and a multitude of power lines.

Most of the land in the area is owned by the state of Hawaii, except for a parcel belonging to the estate of one of Hawaii's last princesses. This parcel housed on a solar farm supplying electricity to the Hawaiian electric substation. Early last year, NPR published a glowing article about the solar project, praising it as the direct result of government regulation crafted to help transition Hawaii to 100% renewable power. by 2045. But on the morning of August 8, as winds hammered the old wooden utility poles, this highly electrified area in the dry grasses above Lahaina was quickly becoming dangerous, yet no formal procedure was in place to shut off sections of the grid in the face of severe fire risks. As a result, 29 fully energized poles fell across.

West Maui that day. Say that again. 20 electric, 29 fully energized electrical poles. Have you ever seen one of those go down? They tend to throw sparks. Even with the down poles in the way, the first firefighters on the scene met with some early success around 9 a.m. The county fire department declared the fire 100% contained. But the message to residents, included an ominous request. The county's water pumps were powered by electricity, much of which was frantically being turned off to deactivate the downlines. Officials asked the public to conserve water to preserve water pressure.

But by mid-afternoon, a flare-up brought the fire back to life on the Lahaina Bypass, a major road that heads straight into town. The flames move swiftly into Lahaina, at 4.46 p.m. one minute after the county government finally set out an alert to warn the city's population largely without power about the flare-up that had occurred over an hour before. To make matters worse, county officials failed to activate emergency sirens, leaving residents unaware of the danger bearing down on them. And as firefighters heroically rushed toward the flame and trying to save their own community, they found that there was little to no water pressure in the

fire hydrants, which quickly ran dry. So far, I haven't heard anything about global warming. With a single backed up highway leading out of the city, many residents of Lahaina had nowhere to go. Some scrambled into the ocean to escape the smoke and the flames, but in the end, many couldn't get out. at least 99 people have been confirmed dead, and as of this writing, making this the deadly American wildfire and over a century, in addition, 2,207 buildings were destroyed with property damages expected to reach $5.5 billion. To review, a power company shielded from competition by the state placed electrical infrastructure among highly flammable state-owned grass fields above, the historic city of Lahaina, which the government was twice warned were highly susceptible to fire. And once fire broke out, a combination of defective water infrastructure, terrible communication by government officials, and only one escape route doomed the people of Lahaina to the worst wildfire experience in this country in over a hundred years.

This was government failure through and through. In human action, Ludwig von Mises explains that on the market, the ultimate source of profits is foresight, the ability to anticipate future conditions, and economic loss occurs when market actors fail to anticipate the future, the possibility of riches if one succeeds, and the guarantee of painful failures if one doesn't, forces producers and service providers on the market

to constantly weigh risks and opportunities. Government, however, immunizes itself from the profit and loss system and therefore from much of the need to weigh risk. Sure, some county officials may resign because of this and the share price of Hawaiian Electric may dip, but the people of Maui will be forced to keep compensating the very organizations that have failed them, and there is nothing natural about that kind of a disaster.

Now, I want you to take this beyond Maui. Why are we still in the financial troubles that we were in in 2008? Why are we still looking at banking collapses? I'll tell you why, because the banks weren't held responsible. No one felt the actual pain except you. Why are our schools failing us? Because the teachers unions are in bed with the Department of Education. And no one is held responsible.

Nobody pays the price for this education except you and your children. Afghanistan. Why did all those people die? Don't know because no one was held responsible. responsible. Inflation. It's the government in bed with the Fed and no one is held responsible. Crime on the streets. No one is held responsible. Crime and corruption in D.C. No one is held responsible. No one is held responsible. The media lies and lies and lies and lies and no one is held responsible. All of these things is the government in bed with private corporations or unions.

and they don't have to pay a price because the government is in bed with them. The government never has to pay a price because they can just print more money. The only one that pays a price is you. And in this particular case, the poor people of Lahaina in Maui. Where are they going to go? because I can guarantee you if dark future is right, the government is going to take that land and make it into a national park or something like that.

Please help the people in Lahaina today. Any donation is welcome. But let's raise money and show the average person, the people who actually lost their homes and their lives, that we actually care. Go to Mercury1.org, Mercury1.org, and donate now. A disaster relief fund at Mercury1.org. The Glenn Beck Program.

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I had a strange reaction yesterday to the Apple podcast thing. Luckily, nobody in my business had that same reaction. But I was, I really was like, okay, so here it is. All right, ready to go. Bring it on. They canceled me yesterday on Apple. at the podcast. They took over 3,000 episodes down.

There are still only 1,915 of them that have been restored. We're waiting, Apple, for the rest of the library. Over a decade of my work gone yesterday in the blink of an eye with no warning, no strikes, no phone calls, nothing. Just gone. Who treats their business that way? Who treats their customers that way? Apple.

You know why? Because they're so big, they don't think you have a choice. They don't care. They don't care. None of these people do. And why don't they care? Because who's going to do anything about it? Where are you going to go?

It's like Disney. Now, you're showing Disney where you're going to go. But with Apple? what are you going to do? You're going to buy a Google phone? That's worse. It is. Is it worse or is it equally bad? It's worse, I think. There's still some attempt of privacy with Apple. Apple's privacy is better than other brands typically. But again, that's a totally different problem, really. I mean, privacy is a different concern

than whether they're going to allow you to access content. Right. So, I mean, who knows? point is there's not a lot of great options. No, it's going to happen. It will happen. At some point, you and I will lose track of each other if we're not, if we haven't found a way. And the way that I put together 10, 11 years ago now, was the Blaze. So we didn't have anyone in between us, just you and me. And I urge you to sign up now at the Blaze as it, it, it,

as we was shown yesterday, it can happen in the blink of an eye. And if we didn't have radio, Twitter, quite honestly, if Twitter would have been in bed with Apple, you wouldn't have known it. It would have taken you a while to figure it out. And then what? So thank you, Elon Musk, for at least giving the opportunity currently for people who are being bullied a chance to speak out and thank you to everybody who supported us and got us back on. You know, I have to tell you, nobody knows how great of an audience this is.

Nobody cares to look. I don't think there is, and I mean this sincerely, I've said this for years, but I mean it sincerely. I honestly cannot think of an audience for a commercial show that has ever has ever been this good, has ever been this giving, ever, ever. I mean, when Maui is in trouble and I can mention it,

I don't think I mentioned it more than three times in passing. One time I talked about it, and then two other times I just said, hey, Mercury 1 is helping out in Maui, if you want to help out, and half a million dollars from you. And you're not rich. You're not, I mean,

You are the average person. You're struggling. You're trying to pay gas. But everybody gets so beaten down and there's no good people around. There are millions of you. There are millions of you that gather every day around this show. I don't know why this show has this audience other than we're like-minded. I still believe in the goodness of people.

I still believe in the American people. And I think you do too. And we have a responsibility. We can be a beacon of hope. Look at what this audience. Look at what this audience has done. Just the last couple of years. Since Biden has got into office, look what we've done.

$35 million for Afghanis. We're still on the ground helping people in Afghanistan. We're still doing something. Really. We're still doing stuff. We are still on the ground in Afghanistan. We're the only one left. The only one left. There are still people trying to get out.

We're still doing it. Wow. I had no idea. The Operation Underground Railroad. Yeah, the movie Sound of Freedom. Sound of Freedom. Based on that. Based on what this audience did, that operation was 100% paid for by you. By you.

And that's not you saying that. That's Tim Ballard. Yeah. Yeah, he said it in multiple email, in interviews about the movie and about Underground Railroad. I mean, you started that movement. You have been supporting that movement. What was the commercial I just read? Just this year alone, this audience has saved 28,000 babies from abortion.

28,000, just this year. We were up at like 80,000 last year. Think of that. 30,000 people will grow up. How many of these kids will become something great. Do something miraculous. Every time. And you're the kind of people I want to live around.

You know, what can we do? What can we do? Look at what you're doing. Think about all of the things that you have helped with. And I think Afghanistan was the most universally, well, that. That's the craziest one maybe of all the whole time. Yeah. And I cannot believe that happened and that this audience was responsible for it. It's incredible.

But it was when that week, we all felt like there's no hope. There's no hope. And then all of a sudden there was. And it was because of individuals. You know, I can't, I can't help the people in Maui. The government's clearly not. doing it. But all of us together, we can do that. We can get people out of Afghanistan. We can do anything. And that's the kind of stuff that gives me hope. When that starts to go away,

that's when you'll know America is done or she's just flat out broke. If you think about it to $35 million a couple years ago, really before Bidenomics fully kicked in. That was like a hundred trillion dollars today. So that's a lot of, that's a lot of an impact. That's a big impact right there. Think about what that means. I mean,

the hope that I hear from people that go to the movie and see Sound of Freedom and the hope they have, that comes from you. Don't dismiss that I don't do anything. I haven't done

anything. I don't. Yeah, you're part of a group that is doing some really great things, really great things. As long as that remains, there's hope. There's an amazing book slash documentary slash movie to be made about all of the things that this audience has accomplished over the past 20 years. It's insanity. You know, and I thought about it the other day. You know how this show, why this show got syndicated? I mean, it certainly wasn't the host.

No, it wasn't. It was because this host said there's a kid who the neighborhood is trying because they have these HOA rules. They won't let this kid who's dying of cancer build a treehouse. And I said, come on, let's go build this kid a treehouse. And we did. And I broadcast from that treehouse with that kid. and the hearts and the minds of the neighborhood was completely changed. That was the show that I did early on that syndicators were like, wow, that was really cool.

And I'm like, I know. What a cool audience, huh? And from there, we've just been doing it over and over and over. We've gone from a treehouse to rescuing, what was it, final number, like 18,000 people in Afghanistan. 28,000 babies this year. The impact you're going to have in Maui. When the government is stopping everything and they see, they may not ever know your name,

they may not even know Mercury 1 because we don't tout it. We've immediately turned this money over to people who we know are doing good. So Samaritan's purse. We load up a plane for them. We give them the money to load up the plane that they know they need. And we pay for the plane and ship it over there. So others will get the credit. But it will be you that did it.

Just I'm humbled by you. I'm in awe of you. I am grateful for you. And while nobody will ever thank you because our name's not on it, your work is being recorded somewhere. If you want to get involved, mercury1.org. Mercury1.org.

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This is the Glennback program. You know, it's great is, I've got to play this, because I just think this is so great when a grandparent is out with kids and, you know, just having a good time. Cut two here. Here's Joe Biden yesterday. I want to say one thing to your children. I know some really great ice cream places around here. Daddy owes you.

Talk to me afterwards. Okay. And then we'll go to Michael Jackson's amusement park. Okay, yeah. What is wrong with us? We all know. Come on. This is exactly what we did with Michael Jackson.

We're all like, yeah, but I mean, I mean, probably not. Come on. You leaving your kid with Uncle Joe? Not me. I'm not. You leaving your daughter at any age with Uncle Joe? Not me. There's definitely something creepy about the dude

And there's no question about it I don't know what it is I don't know what he's up to I don't know what he's going on We're going to go through this Every single time Every time there's a famous pedophile We're going to be like

What Every time there's a famous pedophile Yeah well I mean Michael Jackson I don't believe he was convicted of any crimes On that particular topic Yeah I mean, there's accusations.

A couple thousand of them. Sure. Sure. And the entire country. You kind of new. Kind of new. I mean, kind of new. Kind of new.

You know, this guy, oh, your hair smells delicious. I could just lick you up. Want to have some ice cream with me, little girl? Oh my gosh. Very strange. And for all the criticism Hunter gets for the prostitutes, it's certainly preferable to the alternative. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You know, hey, he's turning this around, I think. Yeah, yeah. He's like, at least that stupid. You know. Okay. It's a tad dark. Maybe it's a tad dark. Maybe that's maybe.

Maybe a little too dark. So, uh, so Rob Amari has been on the program before. He's written a new book called, uh, Tyranny Inc. How Private Power crushed American Liberty and what to do about it. And I'm reading it and I'm like, yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah. He diagnoses the problem.

He's got it. He's got it. and then see if you think see if you think there's an issue here with this I mean just with me okay and then he says hang on I've got it highlighted here someplace most important political exchange

capitalism alters the distribution and social income for the better let's see shoot now I don't I'll find it by the time he gets on but he mentions that you know one of the great examples of what I'm talking about where we can fix this is Woodrow Wilson. Oh, no. Oh, boy.

I got to that page and I was like, I think we're going to have a problem here. But, uh, well, this is, it'll be an interesting conversation. Yeah. I mean, and I'm not, you know, I, I never, I never asked people to be on the show and then bash them. Oh, no. So I just want to. I've had them on before. Yeah, I know.

But it'll be, you know, look, we are in an interesting point when it comes. to the right and conservatism in general and that there are a bunch of different paths forward. You know, you can see really positive things in a lot of those paths, but it's important to choose wisely. And I think that's what the big conversation on the right is right now. What do you do about this stuff? We can kind of all look at it and say, hey, there are real problems here. How do we react to that? And that's what this book is about. Well, the most disturbing thing that is happening right now is this talk on the right of an all-powerful executive

that you just have to unleash the power of the executive and let him just take care of everything yeah that's called a dictatorship right it's all the dictatorship yeah and like some of that like I think there's always

an idea that that feels good if your guy is doing it but it feels good to the left right now they don't seem to have a problem with it at all but in the long run it's usually not a guy tend to work out all that well Yeah, I don't. I mean, you know

You would say you're not for a dictatorship is what you're saying. No. Wow, that's a great stance. The early model was laid down by progressives like Woodrow Wilson who his policy showcased a state's indispensable role in directing private activity in a complex. Is that what he did? Is that really what he did? Oh, well, because it was it was indispensable to him. Yeah. That'd be interesting to hear what he means by that.

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conservative movement. And we have to decide, who are we? Where are we headed? Are we headed to some new refounding something that is taking our cornerstone of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and basic Bill of Rights kind of ideas and putting a new cornerstone in a lot of people say, yes, we're not going back. So Rob Amari is the author of Tyranny, Inc.

And I really like So Rob. He's been editor of the New York Post, and then I think he was the editor for the op-ed page at the Wall Street Journal, which is very, very conservative. And he's written a new book, and I'm reading it, and I'm like, okay, I agree with the problem, I agree with a problem, I agree with a problem. And then I come across a line that says, the early model that was laid down by progressives like Woodrow Wilson, do I need to read anymore? And so I thought, I really should get so Rob on because we got to talk about Woodrow Wilson. So we're going to do that in 60 seconds. If you don't believe me when I say everything the Fed's been up to is leading us down the Primrose path towards a digital dollar, something that will allow the government to do whatever it feels like to the value of your money,

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But I'm making the exception with you. And I really want to go through your book. I've enjoyed reading it. Well, thank you for having me back, Glenn. I'm happy to talk about old Woodrow. Okay. So, first of all, outline the problem that you see. Yeah, sure.

It's a problem of economic coercion that ordinary people face in daily life. We as an American, but especially as the conservative movement in the last two generations since Goldwater Reagan, has come to think of coercion and unjust coercion as only what government does. In recent years, we've come face to face with a new motive of coercion, which is either directed exclusively from the private sector, from large corporations, banks, et cetera, or some combination of those types of businesses in collusion with government. Correct. So there are really, like, big headline-grabbing cases that I talk about in the book,

like, you know, the censorship of the Hunter Biden story by Twitter and Facebook, where I was at kind of the eye of the storm when that happened, and I came and spoke with you on the show about it, just as it was unfolding. and the debanking of people who are, you know, whose political views aren't acceptable to the liberal left, et cetera, et cetera. So, but there are also more, less visible kinds of this, right? So, for example, and this will get us into the weeds, and I won't go too far into the weeds, but the use of commercial arbitration in the workplace, just to give one example, arbitration is good. It's a kind of A neutral mediator comes between two merchants of relatively equal bargaining power.

They agree not to go to court if they have a dispute, but to privately resolve it. That's fine. That's been around since 1925 with the Federal Arbitration Act. But in recent decades, increasingly workers' complaints are corralled into these types of courts, privatized courts where like Ernst & Young or Bank of America get to set the rules. And you as the worker are far less, you don't have the same bargaining power where you can say no to this or dispute this. And it means that you can't vindicate rights that you otherwise have.

I don't know, like the Fair Labor Standards Act or whatever, whatever kind of economic rights you might think of become blocked. And so that's the problem. I talk about the kind of high headline grabbing cases like Amazon, you know, making a lot of money out of the pandemic because they were deemed essential, whereas lots of small businesses weren't. And then oppressing their own workers and they're kind of hellish, Dukensi and houses. I talk about those, but much of the book is about these less visible kinds of

private coercion, where, for example, the Sackler family of notoriety associated with the opioid crisis was able to use the coercive elements of U.S. bankruptcy law to shield their assets from states and from hospitals, from insurers and ordinary Americans who'd been harmed by the opioid crisis. So I just suggest that, and here were the kind of the, kind of the, that you mentioned about Woodrow Wilson comes in, that conservatives used to actually be more attuned to this problem. In other words, Wilson was not the only one.

There was a kind of tradition in the GOP, figures like Teddy Roosevelt, then especially after the New Deal figures like Eisenhower and Nixon, who recognize that there is such a thing as private tyranny, and the way to take charge of it or to tame it is by greater democratic control and sort of, political response to giant market actors that otherwise get to set their own prices, their oligopoly so that their prices that they set, how they treat their workers and stuff,

is not that kind of free market, you know, Arcadia, that paradise that still was described by Adam Smith in the late 18th century. The markets are much more complex, much more concentrated. So it requires greater state efforts to protect us from being like debanked by a large Bank the way Nigel Farage was in Britain. So here's my question to you, because this is the debate that I think we are having now. Are we going to go back to a constitution that really hasn't been used in 100 years? And are we going to reset back to its factory settings?

Or are we going to develop something entirely new? And the left has already made their choice. They are, and I think you would agree with me, I, I think. think that we are right now a pretty fascistic kind of country where the government is in bed with these corporations and they're doing the bidding for one another so they can get things done. And if you play ball, then you get money and you get all kinds of perks. If you don't play ball, you're out of business. Would you agree with that?

Well, I actually do want to go back to our constitutional tradition. I would only suggest that our constitutional tradition is more complex than some, I would say, doctrinaire libertarian free market types suggest. In other words, our constitution was shaped men like Alexander Hamilton, and it was very much seen as a developmental estate, right? Because Hamilton and John Marshall, very influential Supreme Court justice early on, they were determined that the United States wouldn't become like a backwater for Britain where they all they get is natural resources here and they treat us as a captive market

for Britain's own industrial development and industrial manufacturing products. So they did all sorts of things like setting in place a first bank of the United States to ensure a steady supply of credit that was disciplined and wasn't like kind of wild. They created internal improvements and import substitutions and tariffs and so on and so forth. This was all within the founding generation or within living memory of the founding generation. So the idea of a state that kind of takes charge of the economy for the general welfare wasn't alien to the founding generation. And, of course, then you have like the Jacksonians come around because then they noticed that that bank now had become the second bank of the United States. as they've had sort of become a vehicle for the wealthy.

So Andrew Jackson waged war against it and sort of said, hey, we need greater political control over these institutions that kind of can shape the lives of the yeoman farmers and workers and so on and so forth. So because the economy and politics can't be so neatly ever separated, the American tradition never thought of the economy as this autonomous zone of perfect freedom and competition, they realize that it's all bound up with what government does or chooses not to do. So I'm just arguing for a more complex reading of the American tradition. So here is the issue, and I think our founders came down to this. Where are the better angels

now in Google, Facebook, Apple? Where are the better angels in Washington? Where are the better angels in Washington? where are the better angels in the media? Where are they? You know, unfortunately, I would just say that the founders could be pretty cynical about human nature. And so they had, you know, as Madison famously wrote, you know, if men were angels, you wouldn't need government. But as it is, men are not angels. And so although Lincoln was obviously the better angels guy, he, he's, he, he's, he, expressed that as a sentiment to call forth, you know, the best of us.

Right. But he was somebody that was very, very alone and really an aberration. You know, the man is an animal. He is an animal. And he is driven by many things. At the very bottom, it's food and water and survival. But as he becomes more and more powerful, he is driven by money, power over people, fame, and those things all corrupt.

They all corrupt. And our problem is that we have everybody, it seems, at the top, has been corrupted one way or another. And the reason why it is corrupt, I believe, is because the government can be bought off by giant corporations. and little people don't have the money to buy them off. So there's no representation. The people who are running for office, they don't care what the people do. They'll say whatever they have to to get them to vote for them. But they don't actually care or like those people.

They're not representing. They're representing themselves. So everything that is happening is a corruption of us not putting the shackles on a powerful government. but letting, quite honestly, the Woodrow Wilson administrative state, where no one answers for the wrong, just letting it grow. Yep. So first of all, the bit that I quote from Wilson is just to say that during wartime, during World War I, whether you agree in the U.S. entry into World War I or not, he showcased that you can bring government, labor, management, businesses together to say, how do we do. build up the whole economy and put it on a war footing and you know be able to deliver material to the to europe and men and so on and so forth logistics and that model um is now woven

through the american tradition it's as it finds its fullest flowering and then i as i said like ishenhower went even further on some of this kind of logic of government labor workers and then management and business all coming together to make decisions for the general well for the whole, which, again, because of that Hamiltonian streak in the founding is not some obnoxious and weird thing. But the problem is that I think that the conservative movement has, because it's, especially against his Goldwater, Reagan says, I reject the administrative say all of that. We don't get, take part in it. We don't like actively try to shape it. So it comes down like a, it only comes down like a boot on our faces. And that's, the frustration is

understandable. I mean, I'm not, I'm no fan of vaccine mandates and I'm on the record about all of that. But that, you know, the bottom line is that already by the 19th century, we had an unbelievably complex economy. And you had, if you, if left to its own devices, you would have very few people concentrating power and wealth to the detriment of the farmer, the debtor, the worker, and so on and so forth. And that complexity requires equally complex government, because Congress can't like regulate the minutiae of the railroad business. It can just broadly say, well, the railroads should be this and that. But to deal with the railroad business at the granular level, you need the complexity of the administrative state.

You know, and I think a lot of conservatives who say, well, this is just all unconstitutional. I don't want any of it. I invite them to take the first flight after the like federal aviation administration has been abolished or to, you know, to see what their neighbor. they're like once police is abolished, right? All of this sort of services. Police, nobody's talking. Nobody in the conservative side is talking about abolishing police.

Well, I mean, I hear about like, you know, FBI abolition. Oh, yeah. I'm fully on board for that. Fully on board. So totally, I agree. And so far as the FBI has become this sort of lawless agency that's used to, again, Glenn, remember, I'm on the right. I know.

I know, no, no. Right. So, Rob, I'm not. You know, there are things that the FBI, does besides persecuting, you know, Trumpians, that is actually pretty valuable. So we're not prepared to give that stuff up. So even like Vivek Ramoswani, who's called for abolition of FBI, is calling for some other agency that would do the things that the FBI is supposed to do. So the point is that administrative state is, to some extent unavoidable, it's a sort of extension of Congress's

will in a complex society and economy. How do we deal with this complexity? Well, you got to delegate it to these experts, but if we don't take part in it on the right, if we don't try to shape it, then we get... So, Rob, we are having the same conversation that our founders had with Hamilton. This is the same argument, and it will never go away because it's the original argument. Let me just ask you this. It is great. I'm enjoying having you on.

I hope you don't feel otherwise. I know, I know. How do we avoid centralizing power to the extent that it calls? causes us to be vulnerable to the bad guy grabbing the reins? Yep. So, I mean, I think that one way that, certainly the book, which as you can tell from what I'm saying is heavily focused on the economy is we need to promote a high-wage manufacturing economy like we had, you know, in the mid-century era, in the mid-20th century era.

And we were told that, oh, it's inevitable. we all can only either do services or financial industry or these like apps, like porn apps. Right. And we deliberately gave up our own manufacturing. Correct. When you have a high wage economy that's where workers are dignified and they're paid well and they're skilled like we did, again, we did in the mid-century era, they're not so at the mercy of the government either. They're not so powerless. So what problem right now is we have a high, a low-wage, high welfare economy.

What that means is not that the welfare net is all that generous, actually can be kind of miserly because you have to pass all these tests and so forth. But the point is that the typical worker, the working poor or like the bottom half of the country in many ways, in order to make ends meet, they have to rely on a high share of all kinds of welfare that doesn't come from their job. It comes from their taxpayer. And that puts you at the mercy, not just of course, of the boss, because you're very vulnerable, anything that happens you get fired, but it also puts you at the welfare, at the, at the mercy. of the welfare administrator and more broadly of the administrative state. So if we, I mean, I think conservatives are coming around to this that, hey, we didn't have to ship off manufacturing to, like, Vietnam and China. Right.

It's not like, you know, China's brutal labor laws and horrible government are a general competitive advantage. It's just how they run their country, and we made a choice to ship off our jobs. I think here where we can agree on is the importance of risk. storing a manufacturing high wage economy. Yes. Limits on immigration help with that. You know, because if there's always a reserve of poorly paid labor

is willing to do things for less, and that's, you know, it weakens our workers. So Rob, Arami, Ami, that's for the love of Pete. Sorra. Amari, don't worry. Amari. I don't know what's wrong. He can't pronounce anybody's name.

Don't worry about it to block. Anyway, the book is called Tyranny Eek, and so, Rob, I hope we continue our conversation. I disagree with you pretty wholeheartedly, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it, and I hope we can have more conversations with this attitude on the program with you. Thank you. You're very kind, Glenn. Thank you. Bye, bye.

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Station ID. You know how to say it. It's right there. Amari, Amari. Amari. I can say it a million times. Yeah, I know. It is a mental block.

It's a mental block. I hate it. Oh. Well, it's an interesting conversation. It's an important one on the right. It's happening for sure. It is not happen. I don't think it is.

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great time to join blaze tv it's blaz tv.com slash glen you can save 30 bucks off your subscription if you use the code will not be censored this is the glenbeck program we were just talking to uh so rob amari he is the author of tyranny ink and uh it is it's i find it to have ideas in it that i do not agree with at all and people need to make their own decision. We are either going to create what the left has created, except with our people in it, which is not America. That's just not America. Or we're going to realize that the way we've bastardized this country,

for instance, so Rob was talking about, you know, a central bank that they, that Hamilton, wanted a central bank and Jefferson saw that it was only really benefiting the rich people. Well, yeah, that's what central banks do. And so we didn't have a central bank. We didn't have a first national bank of America that was controlled by the government because that's what happens. And then under Wilson, we establish a new central bank. The Fed.

Is anybody here to say that the Fed is working out wonderfully? It's corrupt. It's absolutely corrupt. And it is now only serving the richest of the rich. It doesn't work because men have a tendency to go crazy with power and money. And that's what you're giving them. I mean, have you ever been to a zoning meeting before, a local zoning meeting? Have you been?

I've never been to one. I mean, they sound exciting. But I've seen the results of them, that's for sure. They're awful. They are people who just. must want to control other people's lives. That's all it is. Not saying like an HOA.

Right. It's not a government institution. But that's how everyone feels. You're like, wait, what do you want to do with my property? I know. And like, there are arguments on both sides of this. And we talked about this at the beginning and that there's also a lot that you guys agree on, particularly with the comes to the problem.

I think, oh, yeah. You know, a little boring for you guys to sit here and recap the problem and agree on it for half an hour. So, you know, I know you focus more on what you don't agree on. But like, this is the. This is the central conversation going on in the right. And it's vital for people to think this stuff out. You know, we often talk about, okay, you know, for example, defeating Joe Biden in 2024,

vitally important for anyone who is on the right. But what direction do you go to from there? And that direction is being formed. I mean, it's changing. It's clearly changing from what it was maybe in the Reagan era. A lot of people looked back at that fondly. A lot of people recently have started. looking back of that with the big question marks or whether those solutions can apply to today's

problems. Listen to this. Americans who devote decades of their lives to toil should be able to retire in dignity and safety, period. I mean, I hate to point this out, but in the Hebrew language, there is no word for retire. Now, I believe that, you know, I don't know if I'm ever going to retire, but even if I did retire, it would just be to do something else you know there's your you're never stopping working and that doesn't mean that you have to toil in the same job that you've been in however what he says a stronger labor movement with government backing could demand that large firms

restore the older model of retirement based on defined benefits wait the older model you mean the one before the government took over Social Security. You mean one where you did get a golden watch. You did work at a company. Not all companies did it, but you could pay in some of your salary and you could retire

and the company would help you with the retirement. That model was destroyed by the federal government, creating yet another agency. And what did they do with our money? They don't have our money. Every dollar that I have paid into Social Security my whole life. I'm not going to see.

I'm not going to see it. They don't have it. Yeah. I mean, some of this goes to the idea that like the concept of a person going through their life working really hard at a job that is trying to produce for their family. And at the end of that life, they're able to, let's call it retirement for the sake of this. But like, what is retirement?

I mean, as you point out, retirement might be working at your church. It might be, it doesn't mean you just sit around at a golf course necessarily, right? Like, it's something that you want to do. do, finding that thing that you want to do. And that is something that I think we all aspire to. We do. When I look at the economy, I think to myself, man, if I could just have the money that the government is taken from me over these years, I could do that on my own. I wouldn't need government programs, but instead they take them from me. They give me a promise of a future IOU with money that I know they don't have. And then that's supposed to provide me some magical retirement.

I don't see that as the path either. So, you know, look, we can, that's the conversation, though. So I think he's talking about a more well-designed version of this, but like, I don't, I just have no faith in people in government. No, they were talking about a more well-designed health care system. Look what happened. You don't do it that way. It never works that way. Page 182, he says, there would still be pockets of individual wealth among, you.

investors and managers. We're not talking about full socialism, but owing to the more equitable distribution of the social income, there would simply be a little less money to go around for dangerous speculation, and workers' organizations would have a little more money to counterbalance the power of the rich in politics and civil life. That's a little less and a little more, and it can go a long way towards taming today's private tyrannies.

It takes two to tango. It's not just the private sector. You cannot grow the state. You will end up the way every other country ends up. The secret to the American sauce was, the smaller the government, the better. And by the way, if they just shut off, the FAA tomorrow and all of those federal workers that are in the towers are fired and they can't

come back to work. Yeah, I'm not going to fly the very next day. You destroy the FAA. But I have absolutely no problem flying in the air the very next day if they've been allowed to hire those trained workers or had the time to train their own. I have no problem with the private sector flying an airplane, flying in safety. You know why? Because the market punishes any airline. If it has no backing from the federal government, it goes down. It goes down.

Period. There's nobody saving an airline. That's when they learn their lesson quickly. It's interesting because this conversation is, I find conflict in this all the time. I mean, we look at the problems. You've talked about it in both Dark Future and The Great Reset, where these companies are trying to go around. They built a system that goes around some of the constitutional protections that we've talked about for many, many years. And the government loves it.

The government works with these companies. And so the reaction on the right, I think appropriately has been. to say, okay, what can we find that we have in our toolbox to fight back against this? Some of those have been government actions that I think would have made me more uncomfortable five years ago than they do today, or 10 years ago or 20 years ago. And we hear that from not just from all over the right right now, different versions of this, that balance of trying to figure out, as you've talked about in your books as well, well, how to push back against that is the defining conversation on the right right now.

If you're a conservative, you just have to know how to define a conservative. And that is somebody who looks at all of the pieces on the table and say, and they say, this is outdated, this doesn't work. This does. This is worth saving. This is worth saving. And you get rid of all the rest. what progressives want to do is take everything off the table and not look at what doesn't work and maybe double down on those things that don't work.

That's just insanity. A conservative needs to look at the things that are working and the things that are not. And in almost every case, used to be able to say the Defense Department, but now it's been so political. liticized that I don't trust the Defense Department. You have to take them and look at them and say they no longer work. Now, can we build it back to a place to where it's not going to become corrupt? Yeah, and you have a better chance of doing that than you do starting something entirely new that has a hundred different factors that you'd never know.

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La Voix Wee So mortgage rates may hit 8%. That's good. That's really good. No. This week, by the way.

Yeah. Up from 7.26% for a 30-year fixed mortgage. It could go up to 8%. And you know why they're saying that they're going to have to raise the interest rates?

I don't. Too many people are employed. Oh. Yeah. The job numbers are just too good. wonderful. Yeah. That's by dynamics for you. Believe it or not. The labor market being as strong as it is now, no one's comfortable raising, saying we're not going to raise the interest rates anymore. So they need to put you out of work so you stop spending money so they can spend money

in Washington. That is honestly what they're trying to do. That's it. I mean, and this is working for us? Really? Is it? No, thank you. Hmm. I don't know where we go from here, honestly. You get to that point, at the end of the day, every day, I get to that point where you're just like, what do we, what, where do we go from here?

You know, Glenn, it's going to be really interesting to watch this all play out. It is, isn't it? It is. It's going to be a really fascinating time to just kind of watch all this happen. Yeah, and just sit here and just go, wow. Who would have seen that coming? Oh, we did, but we probably shouldn't say anything about it now. Two more home insurers exit California because there's new rules put in place and new things, new rules about fires in California.

And the insurers are like, you know, I don't think we can make any money in California. Nope, not going to do it. So two more insurers, which is going to mean. that the United States is going to have to insure all of those houses. You know, they do that on the wetlands and, you know, near the beaches and everything else. Why? Why is the average American paying for the insurance on somebody's house that lives right on the water? Why?

I don't know the answer to that. I think, you know, well, the stated answer would be, well, look, if the market did, it would be too expensive. And so, will we, the government have to do it? Well, you don't have to subsidize rich people's houses on the water. That's not something you have to do. Yeah. And some people aren't rich. It might be their home.

You know, they've had their home forever there. Smaller percentage than I would argue. But yes, it's not just an anti-rich person argument. Correct. You know, I mean, but I do think that there is a, there isn't really a great argument for the United States government to say, hey, especially from the left, who are constantly the people pushing it and also saying global warming is go to white. out all these houses next week. It's like, well, how does that work? Why don't you just stop paying insurance for people whose houses are going to be underwater?

Certainly disincentivize people by building new ones. And look, I think most people who do it would say, I will pay the extra insurance and it will be more expensive. And that's part of the cost of living. And maybe fewer people would choose to do that because of those reasons. And I don't know. That's what I thought the left wanted, right? Can I ask you a question? How do you run a hotel in America?

I don't understand. Maine is now forcing hotels to house immigrants. How do you make money with that? I mean, you know, they're doing in New York, they're doing some really nice hotels. I'm not staying at a hotel that is filled with illegal aliens. I mean, call me a hater. They don't say in your bed, Glenn.

I mean, they are in separate rooms, I think. Yeah, yeah. No. Uh-uh. No? No, not going to. What if they're just on your floor? Like, you get up in the middle of the night, you might step on somebody, but...

No. No. No. And if I'm a hotel and I'm told by the government that I have to do that, that's kind of like quartering soldiers. In it, I mean, it's a little bit like that. Third Amendment, kind of. I'm just told that I have to do this now. No?

Hmm. That's an interesting. You thought it seemed like you really thought about that answer. I did. I mean, here's the whole thought process. No. Oh, so you said the whole thought process out loud. Out loud.

That first time. That was it. Hey, you have a hotel. It's a pretty nice one. You're going to have to house all these people and the government will pay you what we can. No. No. How does that work?

How does that work in America? Because I can't figure that one out. The Glenn Back Program.