The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn’s 40-Day Journey to Heal America Begins TODAY | Guests: Max Lucado & Skip Moen | 10/5/23

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

Glenn is starting a 40-day journey, and he's inviting you to join him. Glenn speaks on the importance truth plays in your life. Even during the worst parts of your life, when everything you once knew is gone, faith can bring you out of it. Christian author and pastor Max Lucado discusses how trusting in God can pull you through the darkest times. If America wants to get better, America needs to act better. With Glenn starting a 40-day journey to restore the American covenant, Glenn Beck writer Mikayla Hedrick joins to go through the essential covenants from history. Shoreshim Ministries founder Bill Cloud joins to urge Americans to wake up to the evils around us and the meaning of America's covenant with God. International Bible teacher Skip Moen joins to explain how Christians have been misinterpreting the Beatitudes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right. I want to talk to you today about something that has been on my mind for years. I've been talking about doing this for, I don't even know, 12 years maybe. And I've never felt the time was right. There was always something that came up. And this began really right after Restoring Honor. Restoring Honor was the event that I had in Washington, D.C.

Some might remember it. It was August 28, 2010. And it was on the mall in Washington, D.C. in front of the Lincoln Memorial. And there were hundreds of thousands of us gathered for the day. People came from all over the country. country in the world. And that was just an attempt just to say we need honor.

Honor is part of our country. Without it, we're nothing. The next year in Jerusalem, we did courage, restoring courage. Honor and courage makes all the difference. But the year after, we did love, restoring love at Dallas Cowboys Stadium. spoken word event ever in Dallas Cowboys Stadium and I think still the only one that was sold out. There was so much for us to learn. A few years ago, we were going to go to Gettysburg and we had done a lot of work on it already and it was going to be restoring the covenant.

And I just, I kept, I mean, this has haunted me for years. and so I finally go, okay, we're going to do it. And then COVID happens. I'm like, well, that just, okay. And in my prayers, since then, I've been saying, okay, I've got to come up with an event. I've got to come up. And then I heard in my prayers, why? You have 12 million people listening to you every day.

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. the stronger the feeling the God in me the more urgent it felt and it was an urgency to learn what is this what is the covenant

that is so woven into the fabric of America the Abrahamic covenant I know God would bless Abraham and his offspring and he'd be there you know for them they'd live under his protection and guidance, and they would worship him.

He would be their God and his people. It worked for Israel until they failed to remember it, and then they were destroyed and scattered. But in his time, the promise of restoration was fulfilled. No other country ever in the history of civilization has ever been promised to be destroyed, then promised to be restored, and thousands of. Thousands of years later, it happens. Its language and its people are still returning to its original land. That's because they were a covenant nation. Now, America historically, is a covenant nation. The pilgrims actually came here to establish what they called the New Jerusalem.

They actually thought that they were spiritually completing the journey that began at the Red Sea. And so they said, you will be our God. God, and we will be your people. They made a promise. They made a covenant. This was later renewed when George Washington first took his first oath of office. There in lower Manhattan, he raised his hand to the square and his hand on the Bible, and he swore to protect and defend the Constitution.

So help me God. And then he said, everybody, we're going to church. and they walked down the street to the church where he prayed for hours on his knees. Prayed for hours. He made a covenant again in America's darkest time with Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln said,

I wasn't a Christian when I was elected. My son died and I didn't become a Christian. But at Gettysburg, he broke. And he would finally obey God. and realize that it's not about saving the union. It is about freeing his people. So even if it meant the end of the union, he would free all of the slaves. That fall, right after Gettysburg, he traveled up there, and he gave a quick speech, and he thought,

no, he's going to remember this. In fact, he gave the speech away, and it was eventually thrown away. But about a month later, he asked Congress to pass a Thanksgiving proclamation. to rededicate ourselves to the American covenant. It passed, and people all over the country prayed and humbled themselves and fasted and dedicated their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor. They dedicated it once again to God's will. Before Gettysburg, before this happened, the Union only won one battle. But after the covenant was made, we only lost one battle.

I hate the word covenant. Honestly, all of this stuff makes me so uncomfortable because... But covenants, what is it? Covenants are just promises that actually means something. When you're in a covenant relationship, there's no getting out of it. It's a word that basically means that we say what we do and we do what we say, and everything that we do and say in this world actually matters. We've come to a place in our country now where we expect that most people are just lying to us all the time.

Our president is lying all the time. So was the last one. The one before that. The one before that. Our media is lying to us. They have a credibility rating. I think in the teens, I think it might be 12 in our own lives. Maybe our spouse is lying or we're lying to our spouse or worse.

yet. And this happens to all of us from time to time. We lie to ourselves. And with all of this lying, truth no longer matters. But you cannot have society or a civilization without truth. So much in America is utterly meaningless. It's why our kids are killing themselves. It's why people are losing hope because nothing's really. Nothing's authentic. I can't trust anything. And if that's the way it is and everything is meaningless, then why go on? I think people are starving for something real.

They're starving for the truth. And I've only found that in one place. And it's not politics. It's not my job. It's not the things that make me happy. It's not the things that I have. It's none of that, really. the only meaning that really lasts for me,

the only thing that grows deeper and more meaningful, my wife, my children, my relationships, the opportunity for each of us to be who we are, who we were born to be. You know, we throw words around like freedom and liberty. What does that mean? Honestly, oh, we're freedom! What does that mean?

To me it means opportunity. To speak, to worship, to live, to work, and better myself and our children's lives. We wrote them down in this country as rights. And we also said, they come from God. All of the things that have any meaning at all, all come from God. They're all eternal. If you're doing something today and it doesn't have. have any connection to the eternal, why are you doing it?

Or if you're doing something that doesn't have any connection to the eternal, then why don't you pause before you do it and find the connection? Because that's the only thing that you're going to do today that will last and be meaningful. All these truths that we now deny are eternal. And that is why we're in this epic battle of good versus evil. evil now. This is why we, thank God, peacefully fight today.

And nobody's articulating this. We're fighting against something every day. I can't believe it. I'm so sick and tired of it. I'm honestly just tired of it. I'm not going to fight against anything anymore. And I don't think I ever

really have, but I don't vote localize it enough. I'm not fighting against. I am fighting for the things that we used to find self-evident. I'm fighting for the truth. And sometimes that comes at a high cost.

Sometimes the truth really hurts. But it will set you free. I'm desperate for something that actually matters. And I have to tell you, I'm going to vote. I recommend everybody, I'll go in my car and I'll rent a bus if I have to and I'll

pick people up and take them to the polls so they can honestly and legally vote. But that doesn't give me enough meaning. I'm going to tell you a couple of stories today. We have a couple of guests. Today I would ask that you would listen to the entire podcast because we're going to do something in 40 days from now. And I'm starting today 40 days, 40 nights before because I want you to truly understand what I'm going to ask you to do in 40 days. I take this topic extraordinarily seriously, but please know, I don't take myself seriously in this. I mean, I'm an alcoholic DJ. That's what I mean,

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How can I serve you? And so today I begin something that nobody in their right mind would do. I'm responding to an answer to. prayer. And I'm going to do something that all business and logic and reason would say, that's not going to work. But everything eternal tells me, please join me on this journey. More in a minute.

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So, you know, we have a flaw in America, at least in the last 100 or so years. And that is, we're a nation that was built on the Judeo-Christian principles. And nobody ever really had a problem with that. but we took one of our responsibilities. If you're going to have rights, you have responsibilities. And if you're going to say freedom of speech and freedom for religion, then you need to let other people worship and pray and do what they do.

And you have to be like, dude, I think, you know, I mean, praying mantis is not what you think. But, I mean, that's what you want to do with the bug. Okay. We have a responsibility to do that. What has happened is we have, it has been weaponized against us to where we said we're not going to talk about religion and politics. No, no, don't say a word. No.

Say a word. And I know it's uncomfortable in public because it's personal to all of us. I'm not saying, you know what, Sally, you are a sinner and you're going to burn an hell. I mean, I am struggling today. I am struggling today. And I need God. It leaves us out of our comfort zone when we speak. But if we're speaking love, healing, forgiveness, perhaps the most important today of all truth?

Speak it with boldness. Let everybody point and laugh if they're going to. I don't think they will. Stand alone if you must. But know this, there are more for us than there are against us. And they're not really for us. They're for God. God's not on our side.

We have to work to be on his. How many times have we worked to be on God's side? It's not about politics. It's not about parties. It's about truth. And the first truth is, who are you? Who do you answer to? Who is your God?

If Americans would just answer those, ponder them for a week, answer those three questions the world would change tomorrow. Who am I? There's lots of ways you can describe yourself. And people describe themselves all the time. I'm nobody. I'm worthless.

I just keep making mistakes. I can't make it. You're describing those are all lies. Those are all lies you're telling yourself. That's not who you are. If God is our father and God, has a kingdom, that means he's a king, which makes you a prince or a princess, which means you're in a royal line that has powers. And he's given them all to you. And he wants to give everything to you,

just like every dad does. But you keep talking yourself out of it. Because I can't face him. I made too many mistakes. Wait, what? That's one of his first principles. I'm okay. I sent you down I knew you were going to make mistakes. I knew it. That's why I gave you this gift. All you have to do is just go, gosh, I'm sorry. God never gives up on any of us, any of us. I'm bringing in a guy next to everybody thinks, oh, my gosh, he's such a great guy.

Boy, what a good man that is. Really? He's just put a new book out. He was here a couple of months ago where he's, like, yeah, I had a drinking problem spiraling out of control and everybody thought I had it in order. Listen to the wisdom of the people who have been there and put that one piece in place first. Next, the Glenn Beck program. You know, you might think you know great pillows.

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We don't know where to turn because nothing is real. Nothing is solid. Hey, where are you doing with your money? You know, I saw the stock market's going down. Bitcoin's going down where you put in your money i don't know you know gold's a pretty good idea yeah really is it because i think i read some places the deeper you bury it the more it'll slip through your fingers i mean i have no idea what tomorrow is going to bring everything that i thought was solid is now liquid

when our money our food our government our culture has all let us all down what then the only reason that i'm not in a ditch somewhere or in total despair is because of two things. My wife, who taught me about God. And I know that God isn't going to let me down. And I need that. And it's not that he's, it's not like, you know, Glenn, now, you know, you'd say you're a Christian, so now everything's going to be good.

It's not like that at all. I need to know that God is there. But when things go poorly and I'm like, hey, I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do and everything is like all of a sudden like a black abyss, you're like, wait a minute. I'm a Christian. Remember, I'm a Christian. That doesn't work that way.

When you really become mature in your faith, you know when things go poorly, it's not that just this too will pass. I shut up with that. I hurt. But what gives you hope is that you know even the worst stuff that you've done or experienced is going to be used in miraculous ways. You just got to get out of the way because. Glenn and ain't all about you. And I hate that.

It's about eternal truths. A guy who has been up and down and down at his highest point, Max Lucado is with us. Hello, Max. How are you? Man, you can keep talking all day, Glenn. I wanted to shout amen a few times, but I didn't know if I would interrupt you. You're right on target, my friend. Thank you.

How do we convince people who have not experienced, because I know you have, Max, you've experienced the reassurance, the knowingness that God's got you either way, and no matter what happens. It's like I can look at death and somebody dying and go, not that, you know, the normal, oh, well, they're in a better place. I know that. but actually having faith, I'm going to see him again. It's all going to be good.

How do you teach that? Yeah, and it needs to be taught because we're living in a day of despair. Did you know the suicide rate in America has increased 24% since 1999? You know, if a disease saw a 24% spike, we would call it an epidemic. Yes, we would. So how do we explain the increase? I mean, we've never been more educated. We have tools of technology.

Our parents would only dream of. We're saturated with entertainment and recreation. And yet more people are orchestrating their own deaths than ever. And I think the answer is people are dying for lack of hope. You know, secularism just sucks the hope out of the heart. the idea that there is no God or if there is a God he's distant, that secularistic viewpoint or worldview reduces the world to just a few decades on earth, just that dash between the dates on the gravestone.

And people believe that this world is as good as it get, and let's face it, it's not that good. But people of the promise, people who begin to build their lives on the promises of God, have a huge advantage. And that is, when problems surface, they can be heard telling themselves, but I read something in the scripture, or but God told me, or but I know that God got me through this before. They make a deliberate choice to build their lives on the promises of God, not the circumstances of life. And as a result, they have a leg up. They have a leg up. They have a they have an advantage. They have an inside track because they lift up their eyes and they

get hope, find hope outside of this world. So I'm all over what you're saying. And thank you so much for saying. So, you know, I just remembered Ben Sherwood is a friend of mine. He used to be a producer at ABC. And that's what I got to know him. And then he eventually ended up being the head of ABC for a while or ABC Disney, I think. And he, um, and he, he, wrote a book called the Survivors Club. And what it, what he found in this, and he wasn't taking it from a, you know, spiritual point of view when he started the book. He wasn't looking for something. He wanted to know, what do all survivors have in common? And he found survivors have hope in God. And if they have that hope, no matter how bad it gets, they survive when most don't.

Absolutely. That narrows it down right there. And one of the great discoveries that people who attempt to find faith discover is that we have a God who makes promises and who keeps promises. And understanding how our God is a covenant making and covenant keeping God is just such a source of strength. I read one person who spent a year and a half attempting to tally up the number of promises that God made to humanity. His list 7,487 promises about fear, promises about sin, promises about death, promises about provision, just every single area of life. God has spoken a promise. He's spoken a promise. So give us some examples of promises that he has kept. Yes, sir, absolutely. When he created the earth, he said, and God said, Genesis chapter 1 says,

and God said, and God said, and God said, and every time God said something, something happened. So when God speaks, that is a decree. It's not a desire. it's a decree. And because our God keeps his promises, the fact of the matter is his promises are irrevocable because he's unchanging, he's not victimized my moods or weather, he's faithful, he's strong, he never over promises and under-delivers. Romans 421 says God is able to do whatever he promises. Hebrews 618 says it's impossible for God to lie. It doesn't say it's unlikely that God will lie or improbable, but it is impossible.

He cannot lie. A rock cannot swim. A hippo cannot fly. A butterfly cannot eat a bowl of spaghetti. I can't sleep on the cloud, and God cannot lie. So he never exaggerates. He never manipulates. He never flatters.

He just unbreak promises. And we're seeing, I know you gave a speech for one for Israel ministries. and you said promises God made to Israel thousands of years ago are being fulfilled in our generation. Most people are not, that's not making news. Give us example of the promises there that are coming true. Exactly. Well, God promised Abraham seed and soil. He said, through your seed or through your lineage, the entire world would be blessed.

And boy, is that not a promise that's been. Yes. I mean, look, we have the Bible. We have the church. We have Jesus Christ. I think we have much reason from the Jews as well, the way they study and debate and wrestle. I think that stands out. And look at all the Nobel Prize winners that are Jewish. Yeah. It's just the most extraordinary nation in history. And they're the only nation who has had their land taken from them and then return to them. And that's the second part of that promise, and that is soil. God promised Abraham a region, a territory. And in 1948, when they were reinstated or when they were regathered to their homeland,

I think we saw one of the greatest miracles in all of history. And for centuries, theologians would read those promises and say, well, God can't keep that one. In fact, I think one of the reasons that anti-Semitism is, and got so much fuel in the fires because people thought, well, God made a promise to the Jews and he's not going to keep it. But then in 1948, he kept it. It's just extraordinary. It's a super sign that God keeps his promises, and he'll continue to keep those promises. So I'm starting today a 40-day devotional series that will teach biblical covenants that I think it's the only way to combat total despair and also to restore our nation. We have to turn

towards that. Yes, sir. Any thought on explaining a covenant and how it can be uniquely used to hold our country together? Well, God makes unilateral and bilateral covenants. He made a unilateral covenant with Abraham, the one that we just spoke. He made a bilateral covenant with Adam and Eve, and they broke it. You know, he said, you can have all of this creation, all of this paradise, just don't eat from that one tree. And that was an agreement. They, you know, their lives in all of human history would have been different had they honored that covenant. And so it is with us today. God makes covenants with us. He talks to us about the value of life. about respecting one another.

And these are conditional covenants. And if we break those covenants, if we violate, then there's consequences. Not that he doesn't love us, but he is a good father. And a good father says, here's the path you should walk. And if you get off of it, it's not going to be pleasant. Right. Not as a punishment, but as a natural consequence. Yes.

Natural consequence. Yeah. And what you're urging us to do is go back to these base. covenants. And when we do, and if we do, if we repent and turn and turn back to God, then we can expect blessings. But if we continue to isolate God or shove God out, there will be burdens. It's really just that simple. Max, my friend, I would be remiss if I didn't say hello from my sister. You are just a giant in her spiritual life, and mine as well. And I just just love you so much. Thank you, Max. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. And go get them.

You're doing the right thing. Max Lekato, he has got a new book out. God never gives up on you. And he also has his free online Bible study starting October 23rd. You can find everything at maxlocato.com. That's maxlocato.com. Considering how much the value of your dollar is going down day by day, it's got to be huge relief when you can find something that doesn't seem to cost too It's one of the reasons I really love Car Shield and what they're doing right now. You don't have to worry about how much it's going to cost you if your car breaks down, because Car Shield allows you to lock in the price of your coverage plan. When you enroll with Car Shield, you're getting protection plans that start as low as $100 a month.

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But it's not about theology. It's not really about religion. It's not about agreeing on doctrine. Today, in fact, isn't even about thinking at all. We need to think better in America, yes. but we need to act better in America. We need to agree on what it looks like to be a child of God, how we treat each other, what we do to each other.

We could all run around agreeing in our minds about God, but if we're still unjust, cruel, hateful, untruthful, hopeless, then we're part of the problem. We're not really God's kids. We have to figure out how, we want to live and then stand up for those things. Instead of fighting against, let's fight for the things that we know are true. That's what today is all about.

Today's the launch of a 40-day, 40-night devotional about what it means when God makes a covenant. How do we join? How do we keep it? What if we break it? And most importantly, what does God want me to do? you may not be a God person you may be somebody who's like I don't know I mean yeah I believe there's a God

but that's not all for me I ask you to join us just join us nobody's going to jam religion down your throat just join us we have the kind of a step by step I guess you would call it devotional

I hate that word but it's what it is it's a step by step kind of how to and it's titled the first 40 days, seek God and restore everything. So the first five days, because there's one for every day, and we're going to release them on Mondays, so you'll have enough from, you know, Monday to Sunday, and then every Monday will release the next week.

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And our pilgrims made a covenant. Our founders made a covenant. our general George Washington as he became president on that first day, he prayed for hours in lower Manhattan after he took the oath of office and he made a covenant. Abraham Lincoln made one after Gettysburg. We are a covenant nation and there's all kinds of different covenants that you can read about. But this one is very, very specific. And I'm sorry, but I'm out of, I can give you a lot of small answers. Hey, go out and vote.

And that's really important because if we don't go out and vote, we, we're, I mean, go out and monitor your voting spaces because I do think something fishy. You've got to do all of those things, but those are the small things. We've forgotten the principles, the bedrock. Those things are the ones that we really have to work on if we want to save ourselves and save our families and save our country. Michaela is a, how long have you worked for me, Michaela? Almost two years. Wow.

Is that right? I think, yeah. I think it is. Yeah. Michaela is kind of a special programming producer at times. I assign her with, she's the happiest person I've ever met. She's also one of the most deeply spiritual people I've ever met. And she's always in our meetings when we're talking about death and destruction.

And she's like, she'll wear like a. not I was going to say a rainbow shirt but not like that like a no a rainbow shirt and she'd be like but hey we still have each other you're like shut up my tail it anyway so I assigned this to you I don't know how long ago a couple of months ago maybe and and so explain what a covenant is because there's give me the historic there's like four historic covenants right so a covenant is it sounds like this big biblical spiritual word but it's not in the the past people were making covenants all the time. It's just simply a pact or a treaty between two parties with mutual expectations. So you and I could make a covenant right now over something over anything. Two tribes could make a covenant. Kings could make a covenant. But in the Bible, which as you said, I'm pretty obsessed with, in the Bible, God makes covenants with his people. So those are very special, much more serious covenants. Yeah, because we live in a place, you make a marriage covenant.

Yes. Okay. And we're like, well, I just get out of that. No consequence. I mean, there are all kinds of natural consequences, especially if you have children. But this is different. A covenant with God is one that kind of has some serious consequences. It's eternal.

It's not a pinky promise. Yeah. He's got a mighty big pinky. Right. You don't want to try to get out of this. Okay. So give me the historic ones from the Bible. So in the Bible.

you don't make a covenant, you don't seal a covenant. The word in Hebrew is you cut a covenant. So like you cut a deal, the same kind of phrasing. Because of this kind of spooky ancient ritual where you would take an animal, kill it, cut up its parts, divide them into a kind of pathway. And the two people making the covenant would walk down the path together. That's how they'd ratify the covenant. I would just like to say, anybody who thinks they have it bad, you're living at a time. We don't do that.

No, we pinky promise. Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, bring your dog over too. I got a deal to make with you. Holy cow. So that gives you an idea of the gravity of it. There was this kind of bloody, costly process. So you didn't just trivially make promises with people.

And you didn't trivially make promises with God. God actually even uses that ritual in the Bible in this passage with Abraham that seems so spooky. But when you understand at the time, everyone was making. covenant. Because he made one when Abraham was asleep. Yes. Right? Yes. So the Abrahamic covenant is called an unconditional covenant, which means that God makes it with himself and you're the beneficiary of it. I love that kind of covenant. Yeah, that's the kind we don't want. I'm open for that. I'm open. There's a few of those. The one with Noah's like that, which is we're never going to flood the earth again, no matter how bad we are, because if not, you can imagine we'd have a flood again by now,

for sure. There'd be a couple floods. But luckily, there's not any because God promised there's not going to be any. Same with Abraham. He puts Abraham to sleep and he sends this flaming caldron and this torch through the animal parts instead of Abraham. And that sounds so spooky in Harry Potter like, right? But it's actually not. It is, and it is a little Harry Potter. But what it is is a visual representation of the fact that Abraham's just a beneficiary this covenant. He's not even walking through it. Abraham's passed out, right? And what you learn in those is that God is faithful. What makes... I know you said I'm so dorky about this, Glenn,

but what makes Covenants cool to me. And that, wow, you don't expect that sentence to come out of your mouth. Yeah, see. No, it's just, you were talking about this, Glenn, and like, well, I believe God is real, and that's what makes me wake up every morning. It's because I believe that God's real, and I believe that God wants all of us to be doing his will,

that he has a plan. All of us have a purpose in this life. I really believe that. And I think if we do that, that life will be better. And I don't mean just, like, superficially better. I mean that life will be more meaningful. I have to tell you, I, uh, I've learned so much in my life. And one is what's important. Yeah. And I remember, I was in my 20s and I was very wealthy and, uh, you know, I didn't, I did not grow up wealthy. I just

got into radio when I was very young. And then I was, you know, somewhat successful. And so in the 1980s, you know, I was making lots of money and most of it went to cocaine. Uh, uh, But I became my job. I became my car. I became those things. And I remember I lost my job and the last thing to go was my car was repossessed. And I cried. I cried as that thing was going away.

And now I have nice things. But if it all goes away, I don't really, it's okay. It's all right. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's nice to have, but it's not, that's not where my happiness is. I was never addicted to cocaine. but I didn't say I was addicted to cocaine. I'm not, I've never been a cocaine user.

Yes. But I think I told you this, Glenn, when I interviewed that I had a period of time of my life, I was really sick. And that's when I had a similar, I think, to your addiction. I felt like I hit a kind of rock bottom being very ill for over a couple of years. And that's when I was like, you know what? I have to have God. I have to have it.

I mean, that's what's turned me into this really happy person. It wasn't everybody thinks I just was like born super. I have a feeling you. have a little of that in you. Yeah, and so I got sick for a while, and God was there the whole time when I could have been mourning about something physical in my body, right?

But I had God. And so these covenants that make me excited is because they don't just teach us about God, but they teach you what God wants from you. So when we're all walking around, like, what should I do with my life? It's like, look, read it right here. You want a purpose.

You want something to do, which we all do. I know we do. You can read it right there. You can read it. and find out the purpose of your whole life. So wait a minute. Let's go back to Abraham. Let me just just seal this up here.

Yes. So he's, this is the only time a story includes a guy who's passed out with animal parts all around him and flaming torches. And he doesn't wake up, you know, with a police knocking at the door going, uh, dude. And he's like, I don't know. These animals weren't here when I went to sleep.

So it turns out well for him. But that's a, that is a. unconditional. Yes. There are conditionals and that's the ones that George Washington and our pilgrims and Abraham Lincoln made. These are the most common. They're if then covenants. Yes. If you obey, you'll be blessed. If you disobey, you'll be cursed. If you drop if you jump off a cliff, then you'll die. These are the kind of,

this is a good one. That's a good. I haven't read that in my Bible, but that's a good one. Should be in there. Well, so and that's, they set up a natural law like the founders talk about that. If you lie, your life will become extremely complicated. Or if you become addicted to something, your life will become complicated. He's trying to warn you. God is trying to warn you about the natural consequences, but there are rules to stay in these kind of covenants.

So the covenant with Moses, when the Ten Commandments come down, that's a conditional covenant. Because God's saying, you got to hold on to these principles. Every covenant comes with a sign. We have the rainbow that promises us for the Abraham covenant, very in theme. It was circumcision. and then the sign of the covenant with Moses is obedience. So say you go to a town and everyone in the town is a murdering liar, except for one guy. You know that one guy is in covenant with God.

And you can tell because you look at him and he's not a murdering liar. Maybe he's honest and he's truthful and he's good and compassionate. All of the fruits of the spirit. That's how you can tell somebody is in covenant with God, which is the benefit to people who don't believe in God. Would people believe in God if you really practice it out? because you you will be the one person who has not become dishonest, hopefully, if you hold on to these. Or you're just really good at conning people. That's an alternative as well.

Yeah, I mean, you could try. I think God will figure it out, but. Yes, you will. Okay. So, and it's important when you say, you know, because God's cursed you, it sounds like witchcraft. And it's not, it's, it is natural consequences. It is like, you know, it's like when your, your mom. or dad said, hey, don't touch the stove.

And you're like, oh, yeah. Ow! Mom and dad didn't make you burn yourself. They were just warning you. Don't, don't do. It's going to leave a mark. It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad.

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Bill, welcome back. to the program, been a long time. It has been a little while, but thank you, Glenn. You bet. So, Bill, let's talk about the covenant. And if we can put it into perspective of why it's important today in America for Americans to do this, do you think you could, you could explain that? Well, back to something Michaela said earlier. You know, when there's these different covenants that people make with one another,

but in the Bible, you know, it's a lot heavier than that. And I want to go back to the idea of the cutting because blood is involved. You know, when you have a covenant in the Bible, almost always you're going to see blood. And the importance of that is because life is in blood. And so, biblically speaking, when you make a covenant with God or when God makes a covenant with you, it's basically saying your lives are intertwined with one another. And so in a national context, if we believe that we as a nation are in covenant with God, then our national life is dependent on that relationship with God.

And so it's not a good thing when we say, we don't know God in school, we don't want God in this, we don't know God in the town square. That's going to have a very, you know, there's going to be consequences of that. And so Americans need to be reawakened to, you know, we just don't use God when we want him and then throw him out when we don't need him or we don't think we need him. You know, this is an everyday thing and our lives are intertwined with this relationship we have with God. So, you know, that's a very basic idea, I guess. but when we tell God we don't want him, this risk, that he's going to say, okay, you're going to turn away from me, I'll turn away from you. Yeah, I think we know how, well, for those of us who are a little older maybe and remember America as she was, we have been greatly, greatly blessed.

We're still blessed to even be standing at this point. and it feels as though lately that evil is just permeating everything. It's not that we've just said, hey, we're not interested in you. We're actually doing things now as a slap in his face, I think. Yes. Yeah, it's like poking him in the eye and saying, I dare you to do anything. And there is a lot of history in the Bible where Israel, who was in covenant God, by the way, My opinion, there are two unique nations in the history of the world, Israel, because God made a covenant. He asked Israel to enter into covenant with him.

The other being the United States of America, because we ask him to enter into covenant with us. And you've already mentioned several people in American history who reaffirmed that. And by the way, in Hebrew, the name for the United States is Arsot-Habrit, which means the land of the covenant. So there's all these things that kind of underscore the idea that America is unique in that. We are in covenant with the God of the Bible. And so then when we break that covenant, when we, if we decide nationally to turn our backs to him, then there is the risk that he turns his face from us, removes his presence from us, and then that allows another presence, one that wants to steal, wants to kill, wants to destroy. And that's what I believe, Glenn, we're saying. We're

scene beginning, you know. Well, it's been going on for a while, but now it's, you know, it's really gaining traction. Yeah. And we're at a tipping point, it seems. All right. Hang on just a second, Bill. Bill Cloud joins us. We're going to continue our conversation here in just a minute. By the way, I've asked Congress to pass the same covenant with that Abraham Lincoln passed in the 1850s. No one. No one would take it to the floor. No one. No one would take it to the floor. No would take it to the floor. That's how off the path we are. The Glenn Beck program.

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Use the promo code, Glenn. There you can save $10 off your subscription to Blee. TV. America has always fought itself. Are we from Jamestown? Are we the pilgrims? Are we from those people that came here from religious persecution or those who came and persecuted people by taking them from Africa or persecuting people here? That has been the great debate. I choose to follow the pilgrims path. Let me take you back to 1630. It's a group of families. It's a group of families. They just finished making a compact or covenant.

They're aboard the ship named the Arabella. This is the future Massachusetts Bay Colony. It's right in the distance. And John Winthrop delivers a speech that everybody used to know.

He said, thus stands the cause between God and us. We are entered into a covenant with him for this work. We've taken out a commission. The Lord has given us leave to draw our own articles, to make our own promises, to make our own laws. Now, if the Lord shall please to hear us and bring us in peace to the place we desire,

then he has ratified this covenant and sealed our commission. Now, think of that. The survival rate of people coming to the Americas was very much. very, very low. He's saying, we're making this covenant. And if the Lord will hear us and bring us peace so we can just live, then he's ratified his side of the bargain. And he will expect a strict performance of the articles and promises contained in it. But if we shall neglect the observation of these articles and promises, and we dissemble with our God, fall in to embrace this present world, and prosecute our carnal intentions, seeking great things for ourselves and

our posterity. The Lord will surely break out in wrath against us and be revenged of such people, and make us know the price of the breach of such a covenant. The price of the breach of such a covenant. of the breach of such a covenant. I know you didn't make a covenant, maybe didn't know, but this is a covenant land. And we are deep in the breach. I have Bill Cloud with me.

And Bill is a Bible scholar. He is a teacher, an author. Take me to Samson. and the covenant was Samson and why that's important to us. Before he was born, and this is kind of addressing a point that you just made, before he was born, his mother was visited by an angel. The Lord said, you're going to have a child. And here's his purpose.

He's going to begin to deliver Israel from the oppression of their enemies. And so the very reason for Samson's existence was to bring release. to oppression and he was to be born a Nazarite which is a very there's some very specific components of that vow that was a Nazarite would make but the point here at the beginning is his reason for existence was to deliver the people to bring relief from oppression and he was born into it he didn't ask to be a Nazarite he didn't ask for that it was something that was decided for him. What is it? What is a Nazarite? How did you have to live? You were going to be a

Nazarite? Well, if you're a Nazarite, you're consecrated. You're set apart. You're kind of above and beyond the rest in terms of your relationship with God and what he requires of you. And you couldn't, for instance, you couldn't drink wine. You couldn't protect of anything pertaining to the grave. You couldn't touch a dead body. A corpse should be rendered unclean. Of course, a Nazirite also could not cut their hair. And that's what probably most people associate with Samson is his strength and the story of Delilah and the hair and everything. But he was expected to live up to the vows of the Nazirite. Of course, there's a lot of examples in the Bible where he wasn't always that good at it. He can sort it with all these strange women. He's touching dead lions and all these

kinds of things. And yet, God's spirit would come upon him, use him to bring deliverance. However, you know, there was a point where he crossed a line. And that's when he allowed Delilah to cut his hair. And how does that relate to us? The hair of a Nazarite was considered sacred. In fact, if in a normal circumstance, if a Nazarite completed a vow, he would cut his hair and that hair would be burned on the altar. It couldn't be used for anything. common because it was considered holy. The word in Hebrew that describes his hair is the same word that describes the crown of the high priest of Israel, the crown that said holy under the Lord. Same word. So imagine a scenario where the high priest of Israel used to be the mediator between God

and his people and he's to represent what is set apart in the holy. If he were to take that crown and then throw it before pagans and idolaters and let them desecrate it and transatlanticate it and trampled under feet. In essence, that's what Samson did when he allowed Delilah to cut is here. So my point would be this, where Samson's concerned, relating it to America. There's no doubt in my mind that God raised this nation up for a reason, for a purpose, and I believe it was to bring relief from oppression. Those people you were just talking about came to this nation, to be delivered, to be free from that oppression and to found a nation that would represent that relief from oppression. And Winthrop said, if God does this and he allows us to do that, then we will take that as evidence

that he's ratified this covenant. But he has expectations. And we have not always lived up to those expectations. We have failed many times. And yet, we still stand reasonably strong. But here is where I believe we are at. No regard to us and casting it down, so to speak, to be trampled underfoot by people who have no regard for God and the covenant and these kinds of things. And if we ever get to that place, if we cross that line, then what?

When Samson woke up, he thought he would just go out like he'd always done. But he didn't realize that the spirit of God had departed from him. And then he was turned over to his enemies. So hang on just a second. So, Bill, he had, because he had violated many things and he still kept going. And it's kind of like us. We violated many things. We just kept going.

But then that last straw, the sacredness of who he was, that representation, when he discarded it, cut it and discarded it, that's when it wasn't all of a sudden. He just didn't notice it. It wasn't because of one thing. It was many. But this was the last straw. So if I understand your parallel correctly, at least this is the way I'm interpreting it, so I don't know. But I feel like what is sacred is our declaration of independence, our constitution, and our place in the world. And I don't mean that, you know, we're supposed to dominate everybody.

We're supposed to be a place of refuge and law and order based on the, the Judeo-Christian principles that we were founded on. Absolutely. Right? So, as we are saying, this country is nothing but garbage, this, we are cutting our hair. I would agree. I mean, those documents you mentioned, they were based on those principles that we find in the Bible.

I mean, when went on to say, in that model of Christian charity, that if we don't keep our end of the bargain, to paraphrase, that we will become a byword and a parable. And he's quoting Moses, who was saying to Israel, if you don't uphold your end of the bargain in this covenant with God, here's what's going to happen. You're going to be turned over to your enemies because you considered what was sacred to be less than.

You desired other things. You desired your flesh and your whims and whatever it is you wanted. You turn to those things and you cast what was sacred to the ground. So yes, I believe. that if we're not already doing it, we're, our, our head is going down into Delilah's lap, so to speak. Okay. Hang on just a sec, Bill. I want to do one more segment with you as we talk about the meaning of the covenant.

And, you know, I know there be people that don't agree with this. This is not, this is not religion. It is scriptural, but it's not anybody's faith per se. It's not doctrinal. It is universal and eternal. And we're supposed to take the scriptures and learn from them and see the patterns. And I think that was a pretty eye-opening pattern, at least for me, that now is the time. We are running out of time.

And if you want to save our country, then we need to change our ways immediately and do not, no, we need to stand for those things that are sacred. Not just fight against those things that are evil, but stand for those things that are sacred. This has got to be about action. It has to be about how you live your life and what are you willing to say? What are you willing? Are you willing to stand up for these? things because if we don't we cut our hair taken out of context that's the weirdest sentence

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My pleasure. You're a busy man. Let me take you to Esau, because with Samson, he was born into it, and he didn't make the covenant. and I think that's the way most people will feel. I didn't make the covenant. And so he cheapened it. He didn't regard it. That's the same with Esau.

Is it not? It is. Esau, as far as I'm concerned, he's the profile of what a covenant breaker looks like. You know, someone who's born into it, you know, his grandfather's Abraham. You guys were talking about at the very beginning of the program. He's born into this, but he has no regard for it. And so there are a lot of things that he demonstrates, you know, that the attitude of people, well, I didn't ask for this.

I don't want this. It really doesn't mean anything to me. The difference, I would say, is that where Samson, when he's delivered over to the very people he's supposed to deliver Israel from, he's blinded, but then he begins to see. And the Spirit of God did come back on him. But Esau, he's different. He digs in his heels. He's obstinate.

He's deliberate in his refusal to embrace the covenant. And so he becomes. Jacob's Israel's nemesis. And if I may, you know, you were talking, or you said something along the lines of, are we going to follow the pilgrim path, or are we going to follow the Jamestown path? Interestingly enough, Jacob and Esau, it's kind of an example of what you're talking about. These two that were in the same womb contending with one another, who's going to rise to the top, who's going to lord over the other?

And so that war between Jacob and Esau, I see that going on in America. right now. And it is, it is a war, you know, it's amazing. His grandfather was Abraham. It's always three generations to lose things. But Abraham is your grandfather. My grandfather was World War II. He knew what freedom meant. He knew the cost of it. And so many people my age and younger are like, yeah, I don't really care. My grandfather would have just, you, I mean, you know, he would just slap people across the face. What are you talking about? Be grateful for what you have.

We fought hard for this. And now we just don't care. We just don't care. Well, you know, that's basically Esau's approach to it. And he goes in and Jacob is making some food there. And Esau says, I'm really hungry. And Jacob says, well, sell me your birthright. You know, what's Esau's response?

What good is this thing to me? It doesn't mean anything to me. I would rather satisfy a physical application. appetite and give away what's sacred for what's common. And so here we are again, back at that idea that when you have someone, biblically speaking, who has no regard for what is sacred, he actually, this Esau becomes God's enemy, not just Jacob's enemy. He becomes God's enemy because he had no regard for these things that were sacred and holy.

He would prefer the material wealth, you know, the stuff. We want the stuff, but we don't want the responsibility that goes along with the blessing. It's amazing, Bill. It's amazing. Bill Cloud, thank you for being on. I'd love to have you on again sometime in the next month or so as we do this 40 days and 40 nights. Thank you so much.

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built on the greatest most noble principles, burn itself to the ground. We are flirting with disaster. And I really truly believe, and I've said this for a long time, it's because we are just abandoning God. And we've done more than abandoned God. We have, we're slapping him across the face every day. Get out. Get out.

In fact, I'm going to show you who we, worship as you're walking out the door. It's bad. That doesn't end well for a nation, but it's not hopeless. You know, people will ask me, how are things? And somebody asked me, Glenn, you have, you know, one sentence advice for me. And I said, yes, prepare for impact. He was like, okay, that's not going to make my night, you know, more comfortable. But I said, there is God. And if we will just turn, there is something we can do, but we have to be willing to change our lives. So this is the beginning of a 40-day, 40-night exercise. How much are you willing to change?

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That's Mypatriotsupply.com. Skip Moen is here. Hi, Skip. It's a great honor to be on your program. I was quite surprised that anyone would even ask. But thank you so much. Oh, my gosh. No, you're, I mean, you're teaching just on the mistranslation of the beatitudes.

is some of the best stuff I've ever seen. So, thank you so much. You're welcome. So let's go there. Okay. So the beatitudes, they're blessings.

You know, if we do these spiritual things, we're going to be blessed and get some reward. Blessed out of the poor for the kingdom of heaven is theirs. You say, uh-uh.

Yes. No, no. The problem is, of course, that our idea of beatitude comes from the Latin translation, which makes it sound like a blessing. But in both Greek and in Hebrew, the more proper translation would be lucky.

And, of course, the Christian world, Christian publishers don't like, you know, the idea of luck in a religion. Right. So they don't use that. But both Macarioi, which is the Greek term, and Asre, which is the Hebrew term, are all about how lucky you are when these things happen to you. has nothing to do with you getting something. It's just a description of what it is like when you live these kinds of experiences. And of course, every one of us can identify with some of this experience because it's all, as I say in my book, Sacred Paradoxes, things that are upside down.

It seemed like the exact opposite of what they should be. And God uses all of those to, you know, move us in his direction. So tell me about the word lucky here. I just want to dwell on this for a second. because I used to say, oh, I'm so lucky. And I believe we, I was in a conversation with this with a bunch of people just the other day. You know how lucky we are to live at these times because we get to see who we really can be because our back is up against the wall. So we're lucky to live at this time. That's different than I'm blessed. And I now say I'm blessed or I'm lucky and I mean two different things.

tell me, is there a difference like that in these translations from Hebrew? Yes. Go ahead. Yes. Actually, you know, Hebrew is a very tactile, earthy kind of language. It's about the land. It's about the people. It's about the dirt.

It's about all the things that come into life and ordinary living. So luck plays a big part of that because good things happen. and you think, oh my gosh, how lucky, how blessed I am to be, you know, alive during this time. When the rain comes, it's a blessing. It's also lucky, by the way, because it means that I'll have crops, okay? So in that sense, luck and blessing are pretty much the same. But that's not what happened when the translation started changing the concept of this Greek and Hebrew idea. By the time you get to the Vulgate, the Latin translation.

you move in the direction of a blessing given by someone else. So, as I suggest in my book, there might be an ecclesiastical reason for this, because in ancient times you had to go to the priest to get a blessing. And the idea is that he would bless you for some spiritual exercise or some attitude that you had, and you would be rewarded for that. So now you become dependent upon the religious aristocracy to give you the blessing that you need in order to, survive, but that's not what the biblical text is all about. The biblical text is about how lucky

you are when these really terrible things happen to you. Okay, so wait, let me just take one. Blessed are the poor, for there's the kingdom of heaven. There's no priest there that is blessing you there, the poor. And what is the real, what's the real translation is that? Okay. The Greek term starts with this predicate adjective, Macarios, which we've translated as blessed, as though it's a verb, but it's not a verb. It's just a description of the character of a person who is, in this case, poor before God. Now, the interesting thing about that word is that there are multiple definitions for, or multiple terms in Greek and Hebrew, for what poor means. And in this case, it means destitute. So it's not the day laborer. It's not the guy who lives from paycheck to paycheck. The idea is that the poor here is someone who's so, he's the beggar. He's the one who's laying in the street.

He's so that unless somebody comes and helps him, he's going to die. Right. So now what Jesus is saying is how lucky you are to be completely destitute, which seems completely backwards. But then he goes on to say the paradox is, Then when you're that desperate for God, God shows up. The kingdom of God arrives, right? He basically says the reason that the kingdom of God even shows up in life is because people are desperate for God.

If you're not desperate, you're not going to see the kingdom. So your comment about the world is on fire is the perfect time for us to say, wait a minute. Everything is falling apart. We're in desperate situations, desperate straits. Now is the time when we should be looking for the kingdom, because that's when God arrives, when people are desperate for Him. When we don't need God, you know, it's like Heschel says. We put him in exile, and then we think, oh, we can survive without him.

But in fact, what actually happens is that the world starts to collapse as it is, and it's done many times before. And that's when desperation takes over, and that's when God starts looking to our hearts to see, you know, what to do next. So the attitude is all about that kind of thing. So you're lucky, and I speak as a recovering alcoholic, I look at all of the tragedies in my life, and I look at them and say, and it took me a while to get here, but I look at them and go,

you know, if that wouldn't have happened, then I wouldn't have been here and I wouldn't have been here, and I wouldn't have learned that, and I wouldn't have done that. And you can look at all of the horrible things in your life, and if you view them as a blessing or lucky would be a better word in that case, you're looking at the things that you fail and where you have really gone down to the bottom. You are lucky if you view it that way.

And because your heart is open now. It's not like God comes and he's like, well, I'm waiting for you to be humble and I'm not going to show. I've got some other thing. I've got to play some pool at three this afternoon. He's always trying to get you, but you won't listen. So you're lucky because God's there, right? The kingdom of heaven is. Isn't that the full translation?

The kingdom of heaven is. So he's there, but now you're open to him. Yeah, now you see it. Wow. I often say it this way. The best resume you can have is your failure resume. because God can't work with your success resume. You did that.

He's working with your failure resume. The things that you collapse over, the things that drove you to the ground, the things that put you on your knees, those are the times when God becomes the only solution to your life, and that's when he really shows up. So I write two resumes when people ask for my stuff. I send them the five degrees and all the books. and everything. And then I say, okay, wait a minute. There's another resume that you need to know about.

And that's the one of all of my failures. All the things that I couldn't do became the part of me that makes me who I am. So give me, so let me just go back to this one. And then can you, can you show us the different beatitudes and what they really say? Lucky are those who are desperate because of them the kingdom of heaven is. That's the. actual translation? Exactly. Yeah, actually, there is a word to HOTI, and it means because of them. No scholar will tell you that it should be translated for theirs is, because then it makes

it sound like we get a piece of the real estate of heaven. Correct. That's not what happens at all, right? What happens is, because I'm desperate, the kingdom of God arrives. I mean, look what Jesus says. The kingdom is at hand, and what he means is he's dealing with people who are finally desperate enough to see that God is ready to answer them, that he's going to show up, right? And it's because of their desperation that God shows up. And you can see that in the history of Israel. I mean,

think about the number of times that the prophets excoriate Israel over being, they ignore their social responsibility, they ignore the poor, and what happens? They collapse. And then when they collapse, they plead God, you know, forgive us, bring us back, and then he, you know, he shows up. right that that's the kind of thing that goes on in this beatitude and the second one is well hang on hang on hang on i got to take a break we got to we got to come back i have to tell you just that is so affirming and you know in in my life at least i've i've said alcoholics are going to save the world because alcoholics know when you they a have a bottom and it's not death and B, they know you've got to surrender to it and then just surrender and then just do the things that

you're supposed to do and it's all going to be, it's all going to be good because peace is already there. You just don't know how to access it because you won't surrender. So it's great. Hang on just a second. Let me tell you about real estate agents.Itrust.com. A job of a real estate agent is really very critical. Buying and selling houses is stressful. It's emotional. for the homeowner. It's a stress on everybody. You know, the best person to step up for that job literally is the difference between you getting exactly what you want and need out of the deal and having to settle for something less. That's a decision that's going to stay with you for a long time. Years ago, I started real estate agents I trust because I was tired of dealing with mediocre

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So the first one, of course, we've talked about, you know, the, the lucky ones are the destitute because the kingdom of God shows up. The second one we read as, I'll read it from the new international, or the new American standard Bible. Blessed are those who mourn for they should become. But think about that. The term that's used there is the term for a person who's at a funeral. So why are people at funerals lucky?

You would think that's the last place on earth that you would ever say, oh, I'm so lucky I'm at this funeral. Because you're alive. The point, yeah, yeah. Well, but the point is that once you're at, when you're at a funeral, you experience the fragility of life. Yes. So the first time you come into contact with the fact that you're not in.

charge, right? That you can't make your life go on by yourself. You can't just decide I'm going to live longer. You don't have any control over that issue of life and depth. And when you're at a funeral, it smacks you in the face. The point there is, I'm really lucky because now I get to confront the fact that I'm not in control. It is the same feeling that we had on 9-11. If you're old enough to remember, it was the worst day. And, and it was, but it was the first day in my life where I went, oh my gosh, this is so fragile. This could come down overnight.

And I had never felt that before. And we're feeling that, I think as a society, we're feeling that again. Yes. I'm not quite sure how it's working yet. We know that there's something really wrong, but we haven't been able to put our finger on it like an attack on the Twin Towers. but we know that something is happening that's destroying things, and it's making us feel out of control.

All you have to do is look at the craziness of the politics that's going on in Washington. Those people are out of control, and that makes me feel very vulnerable. And that's the time, because of this language, it says, when you're in the, you know, when you confront death, especially death of a loved one, you realize how absolutely dependent you are on God. And that fear God, so the two beatitudes work together. The third one is even better, because the third one, you know, just one back up for a second. Jesus doesn't deliver these in Greek.

He delivers them in Hebrew. So in order for me to really understand what's happening, I can't just read the Greek. I have to say, okay, well, what would happen if he was speaking this in Hebrew? and the word that he uses in Hebrew is anna, which we translate sometimes as gentle, but it really means humble, but it means more than that, because that word is about people who are oppressed. In fact, it's used for women who have been raped. So look at the third beatitude. Western are those who are oppressed for they shall inherit the earth.

I mean, the whole point is no one would think that they're lucky because they were oppressed. No woman thinks she's lucky to be raped. No country thinks it's lucky to be bombarded and overrun, but what Yeshua is saying is, no, wait, there's a paradox here. When you come to the point where your life is not only not in your control, but where everything is happening that seems destructive, that's when something happens with God, and you recognize that there's a hope, a future,

something that's going to happen afterwards, and you can build on that because God's promises, are always true condition, as David is, often in the Psalms, he will say, but you, Lord, are my rescue. In other words, yeah, life is sharp, but it's not going to, it's not going to continue like that because I trust God will redeem. God will rescue. So the beatitude takes this horrible situation and turns it upside down.

Skip Moen, he's an international Bible teacher. you can find him at skipmoan.com. We're going to continue our conversation here after a break. Stand by. The Glenn Beck Program. So here we are starting our day out together. Feeling pretty good today. Feeling a whole lot better than I used to.

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We have Skip Moenon. International Bible teacher. We've been talking about the mistranslation of the beatitudes, which totally turns things around. It goes, it loses of, you do this. You know, if you're poor, I got a present for you at the end to be grateful that you're poor right now. because that's, you get to see the kingdom of heaven because you're going to, you can, you can find it because you are desperate to find. That is fantastic, Skip, fantastic. I don't know why more people aren't teaching it this way.

It's really good. Well, I think the reason that more people don't understand this is because we've had, you know, a thousand or 1,500 years of the church's use of the beatitude. as though they were spiritual rewards. And, you know, it's comfortable. I mean, the beatitudes are really, as I've said, spiritual paradoxes, they're very uncomfortable because they're all about the situations in life that we would like to avoid. Right.

So, you know, when you read them like that, it doesn't preach very well. So I think especially in today's world where we are not grateful for anything, anything. anything. And I have about a year or so ago, I don't know what made me think this, but I thought, it was my dad, because it was longer than this.

My dad, I wondered if he ever got to rev his philosophical or spiritual RPMs to the red line. Because he didn't, you know, in his own way he was challenged,

but not the way people are challenged right now. Right now, we are entering a time where our RPMs are going to go up, you know, we're going to see what this internal engine can do. And that is exciting and a blessing to be able to fully have to access our brain and our spirit. It's fantastic. Yeah, I think that when I talk about the beatitudes, I often talk about these as the qualities of leadership. because, you know, frankly, if you don't have leaders who exhibit these kinds of characteristics, you have leaders who are, you know, who have the eugenical attitudes toward themselves. I mean, when you think about what these beatitudes say, they really say that this kind of heart of a person,

this kind of character is the person that, yeah, not only that you want to follow, but you can't wait to follow because they, their lives are completely dedicated to, um, to the things that matter to God. Right. And that makes, that makes the nation work. When you walk away from that, when you have leadership that's focused on, on power or on something like that, then, you know, you lose the perspective of what God had in mind when he, right. Right. Right. So we have, uh, blessed are the poor in spirit. blessed are those who mourn, blessed are the meek,

for they'll inherit the earth. Yes. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. Yes. And the way that I read that, just very briefly, is that those people are the ones who don't get what they deserve.

So the paradox is the very people who hunger and thirst, that means they don't have it, right? In fact, the words in Greek mean a, a constant malnutrition. It's not just that I'm hungry today, but I've been hungry every day, right? Those people, says God,

are the ones who exhibit the kind of attitude that I am looking for because they know that they need more. The next one says, The merciful. The merciful, for they shall receive mercy. And for most of our English translations, it looks like a tautology.

Oh, yeah, give mercy, get mercy. But the problem is that verse literally is a line from Psalm 37. And the word there in Hebrew is chasad. And it doesn't mean mercy. It was mistranslated in the Septuagint and came over into the Greek as mercy. But it actually has this really interesting, multi-level idea of my responsibility for others. and for myself. It's all has said it's a really, really powerful

word. We could spend an hour just talking about that one word. But what it means is it's like the pay it forward program. It says God did something for me and I owe him for what he did and he says you have to pass it on to someone else

for it to be acceptable. You remember the parable that Jesus gave about the rich, about the man who owed a huge amount of money and the king forgives him. And then he goes out and takes his friend and says, give me, you know, give me what you owe me, which was as a tiny amount.

And when he throws this friend in jail, the king, hears this. And he rescinds the forgiveness and deals very harshly with the man. That's the idea. If I'm going to show, if I'm going to show, I said, I'm going to show this community care in my life, then it has to be a, It has to be extended to the next person. It isn't just for me. It's got to go on through the society.

Next one is, Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Yeah, and you know that if you know anything about the Bible at all, you know that no one can see God. So the paradox here is, how in the world can you ever have a pure enough heart so that you can see God? Because the Bible tells you no man can see God and live. So something else is going on behind this. And my analysis is, okay, wait a minute, he's not saying that you're going to see God, that is, you're going to be in front of the holy fire. What he's saying is if you work on the purity of your heart, the integrity of your heart,

you will begin to see God's invisible handiwork in the lives of men. And it's exactly what Jesus said when he said, if you've seen me, you've seen the father, you've seen the behavior, you've seen the attitudes, you've seen the care, You see God happening in the lives of other people. And you can't see it if you're not looking for purity of heart. It'll be blind to you. You won't even recognize it. But once you concentrate on purity of heart, then you'll start to see God show up.

And as you said, he's there all the time. You just haven't been in a position to recognize it. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God. Yeah, and this is really interesting. because a peacemaker is not someone who's at peace. A peacemaker is the one who makes peace for others. In other words, a peacemaker is the one who shot at from both sides. Wow.

Think about it. We read that and they think, oh, I want peace, so then I can be called the Son of God because I'm going to be at peace. But that's not what God's saying. What he's saying is you have to be the one to step into the conflict. You have to be the one to be shot at from both sides in order to bring peace. That's the idea. You are a peacemaker.

And the peacemaker is not the one who enjoys peace. He's the one who's in the middle of the fight trying to make it happen. Yeah. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake. Yes. And this is really interesting because in Hebrew, the idea is to be pursued. Right? So it's not that you're being tortured and imprisoned and all the kind of stuff.

It means that someone is after you because you're standing for righteousness. And boy, is that ever true in life today? You stand up for God's values and people come after you, right? And what this beatitude is saying is, you're lucky when that happened. I mean, remember, all of these are not blessings. All of these are a description of how lucky you are to be in those positions. And, of course, it's exactly the opposite of what we think. You know, we want peace, comfort, wealth, happiness.

And what God is saying is those things are exactly the things that keep you away from me. It's in the middle of all this other stuff that you're more likely to find who I am and who you are. And then from a leadership perspective, I think it's, you know, it's the code of conduct that we need in our leaders if we're going to see any change at all. It's really important stuff. It's amazing to me how God made us to where our natural instinct is an enemy of God. You know, our natural instinct is to not do any of those things. And yet when we do them, we feel so good, but it's so easy to lose that, where I never lose the desire to eat ice cream. Always.

And it makes me feel good when I eat it. And I never think, oh, you know what? I haven't thought about ice cream for a while. But when it comes to service and all of these other things, you're like, oh, yeah, I should do that. And then you're driving. Why am I going again? I've got so much stuff to do. And you feel good.

Why is it that we forget all of that? But, you know, in Hebrew thought, in Jewish thought, there's a real interesting perspective on what it means to be human. It's the conflict between what's called the Yitzahara, the inclination to good and the inclination to evil. And what Jewish thought is, is that we are the crossroads between those. You never get rid of one or the other. Correct.

They're always there. Because the reason that they're always there is because that inclination to do for myself is what makes me go out into the world and get a job and marry and have children and change the world to fit me. And that's a really powerful thing. We've been exercising that since we were born. Along comes the other inclination, the inclination to submit my desire for myself to God's will. That's the inclination to good. And that conflict goes on in me all the time.

It never stops. just as a matter of which one I feed. To the gym, if I keep practicing, lifting, you know, for biceps, I only get big biceps, but my quads are going to be no good unless I lift for the quads as well. And so what the Hebrew idea is, you need to practice both. Of course, you need to be not a couch potato. You need to get up and change the world. But in changing the world, you need to make that change happen on God's behalf.

so you subvert that innate desire to change things so that it becomes a function of what God wants as well. It just tells you, here's the characteristics that you need to be looking for. You're fantastic. Thank you so much. And you, I mean, how humble of you to say, I didn't know anybody would ever want me on. I think you're fantastic, and I'd like to have you again. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that, Glenn. Thank you so much.

I, you know, I tend to stay below the radar, but it's really nice to finally talk to you. I've been listening to you for many years, and I really appreciate the time to talk. Thank you. Skip, can I ask you a question because you've listened to me? Are we, we are at the place where we're really, really lucky. You optimistic for Americans figuring this out? and changing their life spiritually so we can ask for God's help again? Yeah.

I'm optimistic in the sense that I know that God is anxious for us to turn to him, and he's always responsive to that. I'm pessimistic when I look at human history. Yeah. Because I've seen this, look, it was the Persians, the Babylonians, the Syrians, the Egyptians, You know, the Greeks, the Romans, we've all, there have been stages in human history where we've come to this point of utter disaster. Unfortunately, most of the time it's led to collapse. It's not because, you know, God is pushing it that way.

No. It's because we didn't respond to his invitation to change. And it reminds me of Ezekiel when Ezekiel goes after the leadership. I mean, he excoriates them by saying, you know, it's not the. people. He holds the leadership accountable for the whole thing. He says, you're in the wrong way. I want to be able to all this. When I look at what's happening in America, even Italy, so I'm a little bit removed, but, you know, my wife and are really involved in, in every day, you know, checking on what's going on. And I really feel like, boy, as you said, we're at desperate times. Yeah, we are.

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