The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn’s CREEPY Conversation with an AI Bot | Guests: Glenn Greenwald & Michael Knowles | 4/20/23

Episode Date: April 20, 2023

Glenn warns that we’re entering dangerous territory after learning about how much data was hacked from Matt Walsh’s phone. SpaceX’s first Starship launch ended with a bang, but Glenn explains why it was more important than you can imagine. Glenn shares his creepy conversation with an AI bot and warns just how fast our world will soon change. Journalist Glenn Greenwald discusses why a federal indictment of four black radicals for allegedly working with Russian spies is a dangerous slippery slope. The Daily Wire’s Michael Knowles discusses the latest attacks against Daily Wire hosts as the White House throws its full support behind the radical trans movement. Having a good credit score may soon HURT your ability to buy a home. A whistleblower has warned that the IRS is showing “preferential treatment” to Hunter Biden. John Fetterman returns to the Senate … it went well. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and the violence that is coming to our streets. What? What is it? don't understand. Well, apparently a lot. But we got a lesson and clarification for the left on where we stand and why we stand in 60 seconds. So when you're trying to do something complicated and difficult, maybe it's even a little scary, it's nice to have a partner, somebody who will not only be there, but be there for you when you need it. I can't tell you how many times I've noticed this when you buy or sell a home.

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there is an attack on Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, the Daily Wire. Things I haven't seen, well, ever, I don't think. The violence, I believe somebody's going to get killed. If pray for everybody at the Daily Wire and everybody who does this job because the left has ratcheted up a notch. They yesterday hacked in to Matt Walsh's email. They took 20 years of his email and they're just going to start releasing it. By the way, 20 years ago, he was 16. So I'm guessing there's going to be some crazy things in his email. And who hasn't changed in 20 years?

they are threatening the security that has to be around all of us that do these jobs now is becoming incomprehensible. Most people who do this job do not make the kind of money that can afford security. So they either live in fear and in risk of being killed. Or they shut their mouths. Well, luckily there's enough people like you and me that won't shut our mouths. The left is so infuriating. Let's start with the Bud Light debacle.

If they understood, if they just try to understand what we're saying, they would understand a couple of things. We're not after anybody. we're not threatening anybody. But we've had enough. Tolerance and acceptance is really no longer possible because we are so far apart from each other. We have nothing in common.

See, what brought us together, our e-pluribus unum, was an idea. And that idea is all based on the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. Okay, that's it. We always disagreed with each other. We celebrated the differences. Okay?

Diversity was something that we got back in the 60. We got it. We were making great progress on physical diversity. Great progress. That's gone. Now you're trying to limit the key to the individual. and that is intellectual and spiritual diversity. It's either your way or the highway.

And I don't mean the highway like beat it, kid. I mean they're going to put you in the center of the highway and they're going to run over you with a truck. Look at the violent obsession with Donald Trump. Really, all they had to do was either ignore him or the scariest thing would have been to side with him. him bring him in oh donald you're the greatest he he wouldn't have been that big of a problem but they went after him with everything they're sick they're really sick people it is time we

start defining many people on the left as mentally ill that's what's so annoying is we're blamed for their sickness no i have nothing to do with your sickness i have nothing to do with your sickness the attack on Matt Walsh. Matt's account was hacked last night. Ben Shapiro pointed out, after the past few months, my friend Matt Walsh, has been threatened to the extent that he's had to have full-time security at his home to protect his family. Now he's been hacked.

The tolerant and diverse and kind crowd are celebrating, of course. I've said this for a very long time. They self-diagnose. whatever they accuse you of doing, they are doing. Okay? They accuse us of every crime they ever commit. And that is a consistent trait of theirs. Their moral relativism is so frustrating to deal with.

And that's where we really kind of separate. There seems to be moral relativism and also a complete disregard for the facts of history and individual cases. The left's response from, you know, Bud-like, why would you, if you were just a regular beer drinker and you weren't loyal to Bud because it's just another light beer? And you were a, you know, blue-collar, red state kind of person, why would you go by Budweiser when they've just slapped you across the face?

and quite honestly slapped your wife across the face. That's not a woman. Sorry. He's not a woman. And if you decide to define women and hold that woman up and say, that's the epitome of a woman, she should have her face on a can of beer, then I'm going to find another beer.

What is wrong with that? That's not cancel culture. That's an individual choice. Stu said it perfectly on Monday. The New York Times article, they achieved a gaslighting that I didn't even think was possible. And in the next breath, they claim that transgender activists don't exist. They claim that transgender activists are under attack. Wait a minute.

Which is it? They don't exist or they're under attack. Other times, they admit that they do exist, but they only blame us for their existence. Okay, I've just had enough. I don't think I'm much different than the average person. I didn't get into this job to be this guy, to be a political activist. I'd like to have my life. I'd like to do the things I want to do.

I'd like to have the opportunities to do the things that I know I can do and I know others would join me, for instance, Paramount Pictures. I had a deal with them. Van Jones and Color of Change got that canceled. Well, I didn't think you guys were doing that. I'd just like to live my life. And whether I'm successful or not successful would be up to me. Do I have something of value to say to the society?

If all of this stuff didn't happen, I don't know if I would have been a success. I just happened to have this point of view and I'm not going to shut up about it. But I don't want to be an activist. I want nothing to do with it. I mock community organizers. Much to my shame now, we shouldn't have mocked those guys.

But I don't want to be a symbol. I don't want to be a martyr. I don't want to be anything of the sort. I don't think anybody on the right does. I just want to live in a world that has verified, truth, that you are allowed to question the truth. And the mob or the government is not the final arbiter of truth. The facts are. I want to live in a world that has verifiable truth, has equal justice where it doesn't matter if it's my son who's a drug addict hooking up with hookers

and making deals with the Chinese, if my son were doing that, he should go to jail. But so should the president's son. So truth, real justice, and dare I say the American way, which is, do not be confused, the American way is that we have certain inalienable rights. And among them are life liberty in the pursuit

happiness and a few more are outlined in the Bill of Rights. And if they're not mentioned there, that doesn't mean they don't exist. That's that's all I want. That's all I want. But I'm sorry, leftist. I'm sorry, transgender people. You force me to stand up because this can't continue. You try to make, write this play in your own mind.

that none of this is new or even controversial. Like this has been happening the whole time. Suddenly they needed something to complain about. And so the right wing stood up and said, hey, let's get those transgender people that are reading stories to our kids in the third grade. Let's attack them. Like, that was normal.

That was not happening. None of this stuff was happening. and they don't seem to ever have to try to make their case. They just do it and then call you names if you disagree. Let me ask you, this transgender stuff, where is the research that shows that this is healthy for children? Where's the research? I'll tell you where the research is. Nowhere to be found in America, but you can find it in France and England and Sweden and Finland

because those guys were on the same train. And now research is being done and they're like, get off this train. This is dangerous for our kids. The reality is so simple. I don't care if you're transgender. I don't care. I don't. The left started coming for our kids.

There have been trans shows since the beginning of time. Everything that Shakespeare ever wrote was, was done by men and trans women because women couldn't perform. There had been drag shows, drag queens, trans shows forever. But nobody was forced to say that that is a woman by science. No, no, there's no science that says that. None. None. There have been strip clubs forever. Many Americans go to strip clubs.

I don't. I think there's many more Americans that don't go to strip clubs. They don't think that it's necessarily moral. But we don't attack strippers. What's the difference? I thought we hated all women. Women strippers, well, we should go get them, right? Because we hate women and we hate people who have different morals than us.

So why isn't there just strippers being clubbed by church members all over the world? Okay? because we are tolerant. In fact, too tolerant. You don't threaten strippers or attack strippers. Now, if strippers overnight, all of a sudden, we're in almost all of our schools doing pole dances in third grade, I think we might have a problem with that.

The people who have been silent on strip clubs might start to talk about strippers and strip clubs and they would wonder, how is this good for the children? And if those strippers said, oh, stop it, you just hate strippers. No, we would say, this isn't good for our children. We'd question why all of this all of a sudden. And parents would object. And just like now, some would not dare I say, some would say, this is good physical exercise. we should have it in P.E. for first graders. At least that argument would have some very flimsy, but some scientific evidence. Drag shows for kids have no benefit for the kids or society.

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Roughgreens.com slash Beck. 10 seconds. Station ID. You know, I have to tell you, it is truly amazing what, they want you to believe. Notice Dylan Mulvaney uses girlhood, not womanhood, girlhood. The fact that this 26-year-old man wants to be viewed as a girl is exactly the thing that I think kind of pisses some people off, you know? It's like, what do you mean? Why is a man, do you want to be a little girl?

They love to accuse us of imagining everything. They call us transphobic when we provide examples. And there are so, so, so many examples. Just off the top of my head, there's the blues, clues, transgender parade. When did that happen? The bearded woman wearing demon horns that is now a part of Sesame Street? the influx of LGBTQ characters in every major Disney adventure? I'm just talking about the stuff for kids, let alone, have you tried to watch TV?

If you are trying to hold back the sea of insanity, you can't do it. They attack us repeatedly, our values. And then when we say, please stop, they leap back. fall on the ground like we've hit him with a car and they're like, you're trying to murder me. No, you're manufacturing crisis after crisis and your partner in crime is the extreme media. And in the next breath, they disregard our concerns and accuse us of engaging in cancel culture. Wait, what? The right has always been the one that never boycott.

It's part of our problem. We never say boo. You boycott everything. Everything. No, no, no, no, no. We're the ones. Okay, so the New York Times, the editorial board announced, America has a free speech problem.

Washington Post said conservatives have long embraced cancel culture. We have? It's popular? Really? So wait, you're blaming white religious conservatives for inventing cancel culture. When did we invent that? The 1640s? Salem witch trials?

I mean, yes, in the 1950s, Christians stood in defense of Judeo-Christian values because they thought it would lead to a culture that looks a lot like this one. if I would have said to you in 1960, let alone four years ago, we're replacing Godwood drag queen story hours in our school, you would have called me a conspiracy theorist. But I couldn't have done that because I would have never thought of that because that was too crazy. No, no, no. It's normal.

No, no, it's normal. No, it's not. No, it's not. And America, it's time to stand up and quietly, peacefully just say, no, no, we're not going to do it. You are in the majority. This has nothing to do with transgenderism. This has everything to do with your child or grandchild. The Glenn Beck Program.

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On board view from Starship. And there's views of the Raptor engines on the second. stage as we prepare for stage separation. Now after stage separation, the first stage will flip and begin a boost back maneuver for landing in the golf. This continuing to fly, two minutes, 40 seconds. Let's get ready for main engine cut off. Beginning to flip for stage separation. Look at that day. All automated, flipping. So now it can come back and have a somewhat controlled landing. They're not going to land this one. It is going to go into the Gulf, but somewhat controlled landing. So now you have separation. So the space module, if you will, is now...

As of right now, we are awaiting stage separation, where Starship should separate from the super heavy booster. What is that maneuver? I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, Kate, right now, it looks like we saw the start of the flip, but obviously, we're seeing from the ground cameras the entire starship stack continuing to rotate we should have had separation by now obviously this is uh does not appear to be a nominal situation yeah it does appear to be spinning but i do want to remind everyone that everything after clearing the tower was icing on the cake oh thank you so wait so late it just blew up Yeah, they certainly seem to be planned.

Yeah, but doesn't that seem counterintuitive? Yeah, you know what? Yeah, counterintuitive is a good word. I mean, I think when you put people on there, you won't say, oh, it blew up. Yeah! I don't understand. Okay, so the reason why this is so important and it'll become more important when it actually goes to the moon and returns, and then the next step is with people. This gives us the ability to launch things into space at a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the cost.

This is the first step to a moon base. This is the first step to Star Trek. This is the first step to a base, a permanent base on the moon where we can make our own fuel, go up, get everybody up there, build gigantic ships, because you won't have to take them out of our atmosphere anymore. So you can build gigantic ships, fuel them on the moon, and head on out. That's the reason why. Head on out. Like anywhere, really, you'd be able to explore in ways that we have been conceived of, really.

They are going to use nuclear. power, I would imagine, up on the moon. And they will build these ships to be a nuclear power plant. I mean, things go wrong. Environmentalists will shut that down. You can't have nuclear power. What about the moon's environment? Yeah, right. So they will build it to be nuclear powered or some other sustainable, you know, constantly renewable kind of energy. Once you put that up on the the moon and you get all the components and you build something, you can be constant voyagers. Wow. I mean, because I don't follow this stuff at all.

I really don't. I mean, I know every time Elon Musk launches something, it takes over Twitter for approximately two hours and that's about my level of following it. But this is, what's the innovation here? The innovation is the size? No, the innovation. This is the biggest one ever built apparently? No.

Or most powerful ever built. Yes, most powerful. This is bigger than the Saturn 5 that launched Apollo. The way that it can come back, those engines and everything else are so expensive. They just blew it up. NASA used to just lose them in the water. Yeah. But you can't use them ever again.

this is reusable. Not this one. Not this one. So it's reusable. So you can just refuel it. And it is able to have a turnaround of like three hours. So we could launch things into space. One of them could launch something into space, come back down, land on the platform, refuel,

reload, put another payload on it, relaunch again. Okay, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, You'd never had that. It's incredible. Yeah. I mean, you know, Apollo 13, it was the anniversary, I think, of Apollo 13 making it back to Earth this week. And Apollo 13, I mean, there's no help coming. You're stranded on the moon.

You're stranded on the moon. You're stranded on the moon. Up until we had the space station, we have to, if there's something wrong, we can hitch a ride with another country to get up into space. but we don't have the ability to launch overnight. Here, let's go. This does. This will take what it costs per pound. I don't know what it used to cost,

but it was really expensive, really expensive per pound. In the tens of thousands of dollars, you launch a satellite. You're paying a lot of money per pound. Per pound or probably per ounce. It's per ounce, but per pound. Let's just say, that per ounce,

I'm making this number up, but it just lists to say it was in the tens of thousands because I'm not sure where that goes. It's now like, I think like 20, hang on, I looked up what the current or what the price will be what they're projecting.

It'll be 57 cents per ounce. That's a savings. Yeah. That's a savings. Yeah. I can't even ship mail at that rate at this point. I know. I know. So now. you can take all of the infrastructure that you need up to the moon at a reasonable price

changes everything this is this is a remarkable day I was just listening to the all-in podcast with David Sacks and his friends yeah and they have been on this AI rant for the last couple of weeks and these guys are really really smart and it's weird because I feel like they're just discovering some of this stuff. Like, wow, it's really changing things quickly. Yeah. And today, last week they were saying we should have some sort of government regulation. And David Sachs and a couple others were like, no, no, no, I don't think it's, you know,

it's too soon. And one of the other guys said, too soon, what are we waiting for? What do we wait? At the rate of change, what are we waiting a month? and in this week it started with one of the guys going, okay, it's time now. We have to have regulation. That was seven days.

The reason why he said it is, yesterday, yesterday, somebody put a chat bot onto a task to be a personal assistant and the things that it can do. It's everything in your life, everything in your life. the things that it can do because it reached out to other bots and then started saying, oh, I need to send letters and organize mail. That bot, you can do it. No human was involved. I got to go find that technology.

Oh, I can get it here. So that's part of it. I need airline booking. There's another bot out here. I got it here. And it created itself. That was yesterday. And David Sacks said, we are, we used to measure giant leaps in years or decades.

For instance, how many years did it take to go from version one of the iPhone to version two? It's been out since 2007. What are we up to? Version 11? 13 or 14? Okay. Been around 13 or 14. He said, we used to measure in decades, then in years.

we now are measuring in weeks and days. And I said out loud as I was listening to them, it's about to become ours. It will become major improvements, major discoveries, major advances in technology in hours. We are going to have a time where something like we just saw, the spaceship lifting off,

will be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that that just happened. The next day, we won't be talking about it. And not because there's some political scandal, but because there's something even more incredible, the next day. We're just at the beginning. You are living in the most remarkable time of human history right now. You want to be positive, about things?

I mean, you know, there's really things he really will worry about, you know, as we cross that bridge and that bridge is coming sooner than anybody thinks. But right now, the possibility is truly endless. You're about to think it and it becomes. We are two years away from, there's no Pixar. You don't need Pixar. You'll be able to go, I love the Simpsons. Hey, have Bart comment on this and Homer.

He has this point of view on this topic of today's news. Enter. Done. You've got a half-hour Simpsons episode. Okay. It's going to change everything, everything. Because that's just the entertainment side. That's not the side that's making, you know, billions and billions and trillions of,

of dollars. Whole world's about to change. It's really exciting. Back in just a minute. Exciting is one word for it. I have to show you something. I had a conversation with AI today. And I don't know if I'm going to have time to do it today.

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Today, I started my conversation with AI today. Tell me what, in the next 12 months, two years and 10 years. years is going to happen, how it's going to change people's lives, and give me the best and the worst scenarios, most likely scenarios. 12 months, enhanced natural language understanding AI models like chat GPT4 will continue to improve, blah, blah, blah. Improved healthcare diagnostics, AI could be used quickly to accurately diagnose diseases or analyze any imagery potentially saving lives. Enhanced cybersecurity. AI may be used to detect and respond to cyber threats, more effectively protecting sensitive data and digital infrastructure. That's 12 months. Two years,

autonomous vehicles, widespread adoption of self-driving cars. Two years. AI assisted education, personalized AI tutors will teach children two years. In two years, AI generated content, AI generated art, music, literature could become more prevalent, changing the creative landscape. 10 years. AI enhanced human cognition, brain computer interfaces. 10 years. AI-driven scientific discovery. AI could help solve very complex scientific problems,

leading to major breakthroughs in medicine, climate change, space exploration. Then general AI. The development of artificial general intelligence could lead machines that could perform any intellectual task that a human can do. Now, it had positive, but it also said, you know, job displacement are the negative most likely effects, privacy concerns, AI bias and discrimination, an AI arms race, and loss of control of AI. Oh.

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A million questions for him. Coming up. Next. What you're about to entertainment. This is the Glenn Backpro. There was a disturbing story that you might not have heard that has come out about the Biden administration, the Department of Justice, just charged four members of the African people's socialist party. So this is, I'm just assuming a, you know, a leftist, you know, BLM style that I have nothing in

common with kind of group. Okay, what were they arrested for? For conspiring to act as agents of Russia by using speech and political actions in the way the DOJ says is weaponized. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They're from Florida and Missouri. They were doing the bidding, according to the DOJ, of Russia, by standing against the Ukrainian war and Ukraine itself. How exactly how, when did we become the Soviet Union? When did that? When did we start for an opinion?

every single person in this audience should be standing with these people. We don't agree with them, I assume. We don't agree with anything. I don't mean to assume your position. But we all should agree on freedom of speech. Glenn Greenwald joins me on that and many other things coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about LifeLock. It might be a hard thing to face, but the simple truth is there are a lot of people out there

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So I find it to be a quite shocking indictment. And I think we have to realize it's part of this broader context. But the Biden Justice Department, even before January 6th, when they were still on the transition, announced that a priority of theirs was a domestic war on terror. to take all the tools that were used in the original war on terror against ISIS and al-Qaeda and repurpose them domestically against domestic enemies, which the U.S. Security State now regards is the number one threat to American national security, not a foreign terrorist group, not a foreign government, but American dissidents.

And sometimes they're on the left, oftentimes on the right, but it's the same mindset, which is if you're really opposed to the establishment, meaning not that you support transstander Republicans like Lindsey Graham or Mitt Romney, that's all totally fine. Or Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, that's fine, too. Really outside of the establishment orthodoxy, like these four American citizens are, they regard you as a criminal. And this prosecution is brought under a law that says,

if you're a foreign agent of another country, and in this case, the accusation is Russia, you have to register with the Department of Defense because these four citizens or acting on behalf of Russia when criticizing the Obama administration, when opposed to the war in Ukraine, when condemning U.S. militarism in general, that they were somehow acting as agents of the Kremlin, even though, Glenn, if you look at these people, these four defendants, they're very easily recognizable. These are true black, leftist radicals, they're not the kind that join the Democratic Party. They come from the tradition of like Marcus Garvey and Fred Hampton. The idea that they were saying anything they didn't believe because the Kremlin told them to, which is the requirement of the law, is preposterous.

and it's designed to criminalize dissent. So where is the press on this? I mean, this is going after the left. You know, when I saw this the other day, I saw that it's a black activist socialist group. I thought, wait, wait, what is happening? Because that's more of a protected group from the Biden administration. This should show that what people like you and I have been saying the whole time,

No, no, no. You are a useful idiot. As long as you agree with them, they're fine, but they'll eat you the minute you disagree with them. Exactly. I think this is the key to realize about this faction is this faction is not, say, Al Sharpton or Jamal Bowman or Hakeem Jepreys, the kind of standard mainstream Democratic Party laugh that the Biden administration obviously loves and is comfortable with. These are real radicals. There used to be a real radical left movement in the United States. They were pretty menacing, the things like the Black Panthers.

They believe in the Second Amendment. They believe in the right to own guns. And these are not the kinds of black leftists that Democrats like. These are the ones they hate because they have a lot in common with right-wing populace, actually, about international organizations, about the war in Ukraine, about militarism, about the U.S. security state. They condemn all of that, and they hate Joe Biden. and these are real dissident, even if you don't agree with them.

And that's the problem is this prosecution is designed to criminalize dissent. So even if you're on the right, you're their counterparts on the right, this is something that should really alarm you. And again, where is the mainstream press? Why, why no, why is there no defense? Why am I the one, you know, in the more mainstream media that's going, hey, we need to support. these guys. Where is, where are the defenders of the First Amendment on the left? No, this is such a crucial question. I'm so glad you asked it. And I'm also very glad you're covering this as well. In censorship pieces, you know, I have to say I report a lot on

censorship and free speech. The tactic always is find somebody either on the right of the left who is so dislikable, unlikable, that no one wants to defend their rights because you just don't want to get near them. So the first person they ban is my Leonopolis and Alex Jones, knowing that even a lot of people on the right don't want to really have anything to do with those people. No mainstream Republican is going to defend my Leonopolis and Alex Jones. And then all of a sudden you have this precedent that says that anytime they do your views as dangerous, they can ban you from the internet. And then when it starts coming for the people you are more comfortable with, you have nothing to say because you've allowed this precedent

to get in transit. Same here. No Democrat, mainstream Democratic. is going to stand up in defense of these people. Like I said, these are real hardcore black radicals. They hate the Democratic Party. And the hope is that you allow this Justice Department of prosecution to take place. These are four people. They won't have good lawyers. And now there will be a standard that further empowers the Justice Department to turn into felons,

anybody who was accused of being a dissent. Let me just say, for the purpose of accuracy, they found, you know, $2,000 here, $500 there, maybe $10,000 over five years that they claim, emanated from the Russian government. But the U.S. State Department says that Russia, China, Iran are tyrannical because they count as foreign agents anybody who receives American funding. We fund opposition groups in Russia, China, Iran all the time. And the position of the U.S. government is you're not really a foreign agent unless you're

saying things that the government, the foreign government tells you to say. You know, people like lobbyists on St. Street who get paid by dictators. These are people who are saying what they believe for decades. They're completely organic, but because they have, you know, a $2,500 check to an event that they organize, they claim nominated from the Russian government. Now they want to turn them into felons, exactly what we say Russia and Iran does that make them so despotic. So this is actually a chance for the constitutionalist right to actually stand up and make this an issue because we have nothing in common with these people. And I don't want anyone silenced, anyone. And this is a chance for us to stand up and do what the press will never do for somebody on the right.

They should have stood up with Alex Jones and said, we don't like the guy. We don't like the guy. But he has a right to say what he's going to say. The same thing we should be now doing on this side, because, A, it'll just confuse the hell out of them. and it will show that we actually have principles behind what we say. You have to have principles behind what you say. Otherwise, what it seems like you're saying, it's just kind of a special pleading for your own allies.

And I'm really glad you hear that because, as you know, as well as anybody, it is very common for people on the right to be accused of being Russian agent. That is probably the go-to accusation by establishment liberals and kind of the never-crumpley of the Republican Party that accuses everybody who disagrees with them of being a criminal agent, serving the rushing government. And if you now have got to the Biden's death department, expand what that means and allow them to turn you into a felon,

not just when your application or ban you from social media, but prosecute you criminally under federal law, that is an extremely dangerous question, including for lots of people who have different ideologies and means defendants. All right. Glenn, I want to talk to you about the leaker of these top secret documents. Let me take a 60-second break and come right back with Glenn Green.

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10 seconds, station ID. So let's talk about to share a case, which, Glenn, it just, there's something wrong with this case. And I know you've been following it. I've been following your writings and your two. Twitter feed. I think we agree on a lot of this stuff. Let's start with the actual, I can't even call it hacking, but getting into the system that this 21-year-old kid supposedly did.

From every source I have that knows these systems, they say it's impossible for him to get the documents that he had. and just and get away with it for as long as he did. Now, if that's true, then, and he did just get him and he's working by himself, then there's a bigger issue here. What's broken? And nobody seems to be talking about that. So let's take that one issue.

Did he do this alone? Did he actually, was he the guy all by himself? So I'll tell you what I know. And obviously, I agree totally. There's a very strange case for so many reasons. And I think skepticism is warranted for every claim being made about it. When, you know, I think all of us are kind of inculcated to oppose the idea that people can leak top secret documents from the U.S. government on their own against the law because it seems like an irresponsible thing to do. theoretically it could put people in danger, if it exposes the names of covert agents and the

like. So all of us kind of just immediately, when we hear someone, they classified top secret documents and think that doesn't sound like a good thing to do. The problem is twofold. Number one, our government abuses the secrecy powers it has in ways that are impossible to overstates. Almost everything our government does immediately gets stamped classified secret or top secret, which makes it a felony for anyone to disclose what our government is doing. When I worked on the Snowden documents, you know, I spent a year and a half going through hundreds of thousands of top secret documents, and the vast majority of them were worthless. They were but all things like, how do you get a parking credential or ask for vacation days,

got marked secret, and then what was illegal the league. The other thing is over a million people have access to the most basic kind of classified material. The same classification that he has. the same, the same authority he had and nothing more. Millions, right? A million secret when you're making them available to a million or two million people who work, you know, not just within our government, but when all those corporations that are joined at the hip to the U.S. military state,

like C.E. Allen Hamilton and all those private contractors right beyond general dynamics, they all have access to this gigantic database of things that are supposedly so classified. in this case, though, there do seem to be some really sensitive documents that are marked top secret for good reason, including things like showing that Biden has deployed special forces on the ground in Ukraine, despite telling us that he wasn't doing that, that do raise questions of how a 21-year-old in the Massachusetts National Guard could possibly have to gain access to these materials and then spent months putting them on the Internet without being detected, given that we all live in the U.S. surveillance state, let alone people who have this kind of a job. It is very mysterious, I agree. Okay, so from what I've been told to dumb it down for me, they said, imagine a house. He has the key to the front door, but everything else is compartmentalized, and you have to have a key to each door inside.

Just because you can get into the front house doesn't mean you can get into the, you know, into the safe. doesn't mean you can get into the liquor cabinet or any of the other doors around. He doesn't have any of those codes or classifications to be able to get in to find these documents. And even when you do find them, you kind of find the doors, as I understand it, you'll have a better understanding. You can't just mill around and like, hey, here's a whole stack of documents. You kind of have to know where, what you're looking for. Is that true or not?

Yeah, that's a perfect metaphor. When I say there are, you know, more than a million people with access to classified documents, of course, I do not mean that they have access to every classified document, right? So there's not a million people with access to, say, the New Quirk codes. Right. Or specific fruit movements that the generals in Ukraine are helping the Ukrainians engineer. Those are compartmentalized and far fewer people have access to those, but higher you go up in the secrecy or sensitivity level.

The issue, though, here is I really question how sensitive these documents actually are. Like I said, they don't contain the names of any covert agents. And you have media outlets in New York Times and the Washington Post, which on the one hand helped expose this kid. They found him, they hunted them down. Hang on. I want to take this piece by piece. We're going to come back to that. So go ahead. Okay. Yeah. So now he's out of the way. And they are using this stash of the eye. documents. The Washington Post has branded them, you know, exclusive, the Discord leaks, and they're going them out every day by doing reporting, which implicitly means there are things in these

documents that are journalistically worthwhile that are in the public interest to know. It's very odd that they started off being released, and now suddenly the media outlets closest to the CIA and the Pentagon, the Washington Post from New York Times, have exclusive control over them, and are kind of guling them out in a way that the government seems very comfortable with. It's all about now promoting U.S. narratives as opposed to doing anything that actually exposes incriminating information about the Biden administration. That's what I find out about it. So do you believe this kid acted alone, or there was somebody else involved with better access

that was pushing some sort of a narrative that they wanted pushed, somebody wanted pushed, or is he just a stupid kid that did this and was like, I just want to be popular with my friends? Yeah, I mean, of course, you know, I, whatever I say is so much speculative,

since I don't actually know, but my view is, you would be surprised at how sloppy the U.S. government is with even pretty sensitive secrets. Remember, Edward Stoneham was 29 years old when he walked out with a massive archive from the most sensitive agency,

which was the NSA. Chelsea Manning was an army private and managed to send to WikiLeaks gigantic amounts of information. And it seems like what he did was photocopy documents that were laying on a table. I would not at all be surprised if there were other people working with him

because, again, the way these weeks ended up happening seems to boost the U.S. agenda and not undermine anything the Biden administration is doing. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he was able to do this because the thing our government does with these classified documents is very reckless. Okay.

So let's go to, and I've got about 90 seconds, so we'll just be here one minute. We're just going to be able to really kind of ask the question and begin. But I want to talk now about the media. It was Michael Isikov, who I think broke the story of who this kid was, right? Wasn't it, Stu? Was it Isikov? Who Isikov has a long story in Ukraine. And I've never seen the media.

lead the manhunt. They weren't following. It seemed as though they were leading the manhunt for it. It was very bizarre. I'd like to get your comments on the media and then the reaction of the government and putting in new spying techniques because of this emergency. Glenn Greenwald joins us in a minute. He is the Intercept co-founder and the host of CISC.

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I mean, in fact, when, you know, this is like something you learned in journalism on a one is that the highest duty of a journalist is to protect your sources. The only time that it's justified not even justified, but actually required, to expose your sources is when they purposely feed you lies, when they use you to deceive the American people by disseminating lives through your journalism. And yet all of these journalists who work in these big media corporations got constantly used and manipulated to spread outright lives during Russia. And they seem happy about it because it achieved the political outcome. They wanted it, and that's what these journalists are about. And I'm pretty sure that they're probably being fed the same stuff about this.

from the same people. And they seem to, you know, not expose the people who are sources that are lying to them, but instead attack and do all the work to find the guy who should be protected kind of as a whistleblower. I mean, I don't think that's what his goal was. But, I mean, that's the way it would have been treated before. the press would have protected him, not hunted for him. And journalists are really our only job. The reason why there is a trust freedom guarantee in the Constitution is because we're supposed to be an adversarial force against the government,

against the executive branch and all of its power by bringing transparency to it. So we rely on people like this. Regardless sometimes they have bad motives, but they still are the people who allow us to show the American people what the government is really doing. When the government is like, these people enable us to get the proof and show that these are the people who are supposed to cultivate and protect. The last thing you're supposed to do is go on a hunt and use Jeff Bezos as resources of the Washington Post or the Saltberger families at the New York Times to do the FBI's job for them. And yet the reality is these media corporations serve the U.S. security state above all else. That is their real ideology. They're erupted and liberals on cultural issues, but on these issues, it's the FBI.

CIA, the Pentagon, that's who they served. So it's not a lack of curiosity. It is just, they're just in the bag. That is their main ideology. I mean, all of Russia gate, which dominated our political culture for four years, came from those agencies. Right. Now, the lack of curiosity drives me nuts, the Nord Stream pipeline. How, how, wait, what?

How do we, how do we know where this leaker is? But we couldn't find out of probably a hundred people who leaked the Dobbs case. And there's no curiosity about it. You posted something the other day about Nashville that you had two retainer letters coming from two different attorney firms in Nashville. Their job was to go to the Nashville PD and get the manifesto. They both backed out at the last minute. What happened there? Yeah, I mean, why don't we have that manifesto showing what really motivated some maniac psychopaths that go into a Christian school and murder three young children and three employees of that school, when usually in these mass shooting cases, the media loves these manifestos if they get to blame right-wing comments or activists or journalists.

But in this case, there's no interest in this manifesto on the part of the media. so we wanted to sue the FBI and the Tennessee law enforcement authorities to get it. And two major law firms that originally said they would represent us in doing that at the last minute backed out with very sketchy explanations about why. There's obviously a lot of political pleasure to keep this hidden. So what are you doing about it? Do you finding others to represent you? Yeah. After I, you know, kind of went public and sounded the alarm.

There were a couple of firms in Tennessee, not in Nashville, notably, but in the middle of the state, are very, very good. He said they'd be happy to represent us and now we're between them and we're going forward with litigation and we'll see whether we can wrench this document out of their hands. Is that, is that normal that you have to fight for like a manifesto? Because everybody is like, I don't know if we should publish a manifesto. We don't want to spread it, blah, blah, blah. But I don't remember not being able to get one. Yeah, first of all, law firms are businesses, right? So usually if you call a law firm and you say, hey, I'd like to...

Whoops. You there? we lost him oh it's the Biden we're happy to do it and yet in this case you know they were like no we can and exactly usually we see these manifestos and yet very strangely in this case because of the politics that's being said this is uh with the attorneys this is not unusual I I this must be four or five years ago I had an attorney firm one of the best in Washington for a freedom of speech. And I'd had him for 20 years. We had fought cases together. We were working on a case. They dropped me. Of course, they got a new client. I think it was Google and a couple of others. But they immediately dropped me. And I'm like, dude, what, what's happening? They're like,

just, you know, and between the lines, they were telling me, we have other clients that is, it's causing us friction to represent you. And I gave them a John Adams speech. But these, these attorneys, what are they doing? You've got to stand up against the power. There doesn't seem to be a lot of spine, even in our attorneys now. I mean, it gets back, you know, I used to be an attorney before I was a journalist,

and it gets back to a retirement at the beginning, which is that the thing that always drove America was the spirit of dissent. It's like what drove our innovation and creativity, the idea of thinking differently of breaking from the pack, those values were shared, and they were protected under the Constitution and now conformity and the requirements you sort of serve these political orthodoxies is so overwhelming and people seem very willing to submit to them

because the punishments have been turned up for refusing to do so. I'm talking to the guys at the Daily Wire next hour. Somebody went in and hacked Matt Walsh's email for the last 20 years. I mean, he was 16, 20 years ago. and they're saying they're going to, you know, release it all. The entire staff needs private security. What's happening with the left and how violent, everything that the right is accused of is happening on an almost daily basis. And I tell you, Glenn, I think that somebody's, some journalist is going to lose their life.

and I don't mean journalists like the old school. I think people like you and me and Daily Wire and anybody who's standing up against anything or just for the truth, I worry about the people that are being wound up. The American left, the American liberal left, loves to believe they're the class,

they're the victim, they're the ones who have the power. The reality is that is the hegemonic force of the American institutions. authority are on their side, and they have such a righteousness as a result that they believe anything and everything they do in pursuit of their political agenda is justified censorship, lying, and even the use of violence, which is why Kamala Harris went to Nashville and didn't even meet with those families, because they won't even condemn that person because anything done in the name of fighting the right or conservatism or dissidents, they regard as justified.

It's frightening times. Glenn, thank you for all your hard work over the years. Always great to be with you. Yep, great to be with you. Glenn Greenwald. You know, in talking about what's happening, because we have Michael Knowles on with us in a few minutes. And, you know, what's happening is you're not forced to look at evidence.

You're being forced to comply. They don't ask for a conversation. These things are just introduced overnight, and you better deal with it. So, I mean, who knew, in fact, CRT, all of the transgender stuff, all of the, you know, your kids can be taken away from you because they, because they want to butcher themselves. All of this stuff happened overnight. It wasn't a slow drip, drip, drip. It was a slow drip, drip, drip for a long time.

And then all of a sudden the water faucets were open overnight and we're all like, wait a minute, is this happening? It happened so fast that people in the media got away, at least for a little while, saying, this is just Republicans making stuff up. That's not happening. Well, yes, it was. And now everybody knows. And they didn't bring it in and say, hey, let's discuss this. it was a demand and an outrageous one. And then when we say no, they accuse us of violence or cancel culture.

It's not cancel culture. This is demand culture. They have torn down the statues. They are erasing history. They have sullied good people's names. They've given evil people sainthood and saints they call evil. People like Karl Marx, he loved the N-word and colonization as much as he hated Jews. What's not to like about the guy?

So we vote with our wallet. We're not boycotters. Never have been. The left does. And now with like the Bud Light thing, you can't even. vote with your wallet because that makes you a hater. Then what can you do? How can you express yourself?

Well, that's the whole point. You can't. They're making demands. They're not asking for a conversation or come together. They're making demands. Today, this is what you will do and you will submit. You will drop to your knees and worship them. So we talked about these black socialists here in Florida.

were arrested by our DOJ for coming out against the war in Ukraine. Wait a minute, that's freedom of speech. What are you talking about? That's not inconsistent for those people, but you have to drop to your knees and worship them. They want you to hand over your children, your marriage, your patriotism, your history, your property, ultimately your life.

Here's the difference between those kinds of people and the rest of us. I just want to be left alone. And I want justice and truth and I want all that. But I basically just let me live my life. They want you to vanish from the earth. That's the difference. If they were alone in a room with, say, J.K. Rowling, do you not think that they would tear her limb from limb?

Of course they would. Then they would shriek in our direction and accuse us of murder. It's not acceptable. It's not rational. It's not reasonable. And it will fail because truth always wins in the end. The only thing we have to do is know the truth, the verifiable truth, and stand by it. Back in a minute.

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You know, I want to look into those two guys in Florida that have been arrested. They're black nationalist socialist, so they're not on my side at all, most likely not on your side either. They are, you know, they're Antifa types. However, the DOJ has just gone after them, and they are prosecuting them now for felonies, for memes, and things they said about Ukraine. Meme felonies? Meme felonies. Is there a meme felony clause? It's in the Constitution.

It is. Yeah. Is it on the back? Is it invisible? You need the special Ben Franklin glasses. Oh, okay. Yeah. Only Nicholas Cage can read it.

Okay. But they brought them in for this case. Okay. Anyway, we have got to stand for people that we do not agree with. And I want to look into these guys and see if there is any way to read this case fairly and say, oh, yeah, the DOJ is right for doing this. You can't start arresting people for what memes they, you know. and their political statements online. Can't do it.

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Hello, America. Last night I walked off stage 19, finishing the Wednesday night special, and my producer said, are you paying attention? You ever heard what's going on at Daily Wire? And I got the briefing that Matt Walsh, he is email, has been hacked into, and they have 20 years of his email. just so you know 20 years ago, I think he was 16. You got anything you said at 16 that maybe you wouldn't want published on the front page?

Yeah, yeah. So they just took all that. Then at the same time that was going on, Michael Knowles was at U-Pitt, I think, and police found an incinerary device that blew up. The crowds were basically chanting death to Michael. They burned him in effigy, and he had to be rushed out. Just another day, if you happen to believe in something that this administration or the popular culture doesn't believe in. So sick and tired of it.

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That's preborn.com slash Beck. My good friend, Michael Knowles. How are you, Michael? I'm doing well. I'm doing better than that effigy of me. Yeah. Pleased to report, I am not on fire, totally alive. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to reach out to you and everybody at the Daily Wire. Let you know that our prayers are with you guys.

We've been there, done that. We know what it's like. And anything we can do to help you on any front, Michael, let me know. No, thank you, Glenn. I really appreciate it because we're trying to take it in stride, this is just par for the course, but the attacks are increasing, especially what they did to Matt. I mean, getting this guy's entire private correspondence going back 20 years, and why? Why, Glenn? It's all because of this one issue. It's because we have had the temerity to say that boys can't really be girls, and we shouldn't be pumping little kids full of hormones and cutting. off their body parts. And because of this, the threats have gone absolutely through the roof. And I think it just exposes how ridiculous one of the classic lines from the left is, which is what the left always says is, why do you care? Why do you care so much if we pretend that men can really be women? Why do we

care? Well, I don't think we're the ones who seem so fanatical about this and so obsessed. You're the ones hacking into people's cell phones. You're the ones throwing off and saying, Bendiary devices. Call it what it is. It's an explosive at a public debate over transgenderism, burning people in effigy. I don't think that we're the ones that started this fight. We're just trying to speak common sense and reason. And if you guys are so afraid of common sense and reason, that tells me this is exactly the fight that we've got to be in. So, Michael, you're in Nashville, which I told you guys should have come to Dallas. But you're in Nashville where, you had a shooter and now you can't get the manifesto from the Nashville police.

I mean, Glenn Greenwald tried to hire two firms. He finally got one. Two firms, they said they would represent him to get that released. And they called back like an hour later and they're like, yeah, we're not going to do that. And it was all because of political pressure. Right. In defense of the Nashville police, I strongly suspect that they're not the ones that are holding this up. I strongly suspect that the middle, the minute that federal government got involved, I think probably the political pressure is coming all the way down from the White House. Well, it's time for good men to stand up and good women. The attacks that are coming on you guys, as I walked out of the studio last night, I just thought, somebody's going to get

killed. Somebody's going to die. And it's, I mean, we're entering a time of assassinations. And we have, thank God, not had any of the stuff that was happening in the 60s. But that happened because

of zealots. And we are seeing people that are so bat, crap, crazy that I'm afraid they're going to kill somebody. And this is, exactly what the media has been saying is going to happen from the right.

And we're damn close to it here from the left. And the media are encouraging it. We should be very clear about that. This is why the media lied about what I said at CPAC, when I said that for the good of society and especially for the good of the people who identify as transgender, we've got to eradicate this ideology because the ideology is false and it's really harming people. And if the media thought that what I said was so objectionable, they would have just printed what I said. Correct.

They know that pretty much everybody agrees with that. And so they lied, and they said that I called to eradicate people. And I can't think of any explanations to why they would lie other than to call for violence against us. And they've gotten what they've wanted. I mean, you're seeing these things increase. I always try to take this in stride and with a grain of salt. I think people mouth off on the internet all the time, and they think they're a lot tougher than they really are. But now we're seeing fruits of this kind of a threat.

And specifically on this issue, we're seeing people who are not in control of their reason. We're talking about people who are not the most rational. And so we might think, oh, people will come to their senses. They're mouthing off a little bit, but it's no big deal. Not on this issue. No, there's no sense. Anyone who's dealt with it can see. Yeah, there's no senses to come to on this particular issue.

And the media, but also the administration, by having a group of children killed and then the vice president come to Nashville and sit with the family of the killer and not the children is pretty remarkable. So if I am somebody who is in the transnational, transgender extremist movement, and I feel like, you know, I can do anything, you know, including kill people. That just sent the message to me that I'm right. I'm right. This was a message we just saw today. It came out from the Biden administration that days after the Nashville shooting, where all of the evidence seems to suggest that the transgender ideology played a role here. Obviously, it's transgender identified shooter targeting and killing Christian kids. Days after that shooting, the Biden administration through the EEOC sent out a message saying

that increasingly trans people are at risk. They just will not give up the line. No evidence, no events can dissuade them. And so the message is clear from the White House. The message is clear that we are behind this absurd ideology and you can do anything you want to defend it. Michael, what, where do you think this goes from here? I was just reading an old monologue from Rush Limbaugh today, and he said, we're at the point of a national split. We don't have anything in common anymore. There are no root principles that we can be in common. And this, you know, this is before he died.

Where are we? What's coming? When I was a student, we asked him about certain basic issues in the country. at the time, I think we were talking about marriage. And we said, can there be a federalist solution here on this issue and the states just pick however they want to pick? And he said, well, I love federalism and I love states' rights. There are certain issues that seem so fundamental that we need to come to an agreement nationally. Slavery would be an issue.

Marriage, the fundamental building block of politics would be one of those issues. And I think even more fundamental than that, of course, would be what a man is and what a woman is. If a nation cannot agree on that, then a nation cannot agree on anything at all. We're seeing this play out right now in Colorado. Colorado has become a sanctuary state for transing the kids. And I don't think this will remain a state issue. If we cannot communicate with one another, if our speech is no longer intelligible, then we cannot have a self-governing republic, the premise of which is that we can talk about issues,

perceive the truth, and determine how we all want to live together. breaking down and accelerating before our eyes. I thought of two phrases yesterday from the founders, Franklin. A republic, ma'am, if you can keep it. And the other, I think was John Adams. This system is wholly unfit for an irreligious and, what did he say? Immoral people. I mean, I thought of both of those yesterday.

I thought, boy, they're right. I mean, we have these freedoms. But if we don't have some governor on ourselves, this is what happens. You have riots in the streets in Chicago and nobody says anything. These are teenagers. If they don't learn now, they've got, you know, if they're lucky, another five years before they're shot. you know, or the rest of their life to go. What are they going to be like when they're 40 if they make it?

I'm so glad you brought up the John Adams quote because a lot of people misunderstand it. I think a lot of people think that that John Adams quote is just a nice platitude about how you should go to church. We should all be nice to each other. What John Adams is saying here is he's simply describing a fact about the Republic. He's just observing that if a people does it, not have a shared understanding of what's good and bad and right and wrong and true and false. If we do not make a conscious effort to pursue the good and to avoid evil, this is a basic requirement of statecraft, then the republic will break down. And that's just a fact you can

rely on it like any other scientific fact. And now, unfortunately, we appear to be proving that right through our own experiment. I sense with some, I hope, I hope this is correct and I hope you're sensing it too. I am sensing a deeper understanding from the right on how fast this can fall apart on us, how close we are, and how meek and humble and peaceful we need to be. I've been afraid of the right striking out, but I'm only afraid of the lone person like the trans shooter. I'm only afraid of that one crazy out there. I think that we're starting to understand the right is that we're dealing with evil.

Our enemies are not our neighbors. It's evil. And it's almost like the entire nation is possessed. It is. I don't know how you can describe it, especially when we're talking about an ideology that tells you to hate your body and sterilize yourself. Right. And hate your neighbor. And hate your neighbor and hate your country and be destructive and burn things down. You're so right, though, Glenn, on people waking up and seeing how quickly this can happen. I'm reminded of that Ernest Hemingway quote from the sun also rises when he's asked how he went bankrupt.

And he says, gradually, then suddenly. Yes. Things can slowly decline for a while, but then once you cross a certain threshold, once we no longer know what a man is or a woman is, once we no longer know what our country is, things can decay very quickly. It's happened many times before in history. We are not magically immune to that. If we don't make a conscious, concerted effort to preserve our society, our community, we're going to lose it. I said it years ago, I said, this is all going to build up, And then it's going to just come like a thief in the night. And you'll have so many friends that will say, when did this happen?

Right now. Right now is when it's happening. You weren't paying attention. But it's been happening for years. And you chose not to look at it. So don't come surprised. You just chose not to look at it. And I think that's the choice a lot of Americans are making.

But I'm glad. I think there are more Americans that are saying, wait, I should probably pay attention to what's going on here and are getting more and more involved. Michael, thank you. And also, I want to thank you as a non-Catholic, but thank you as a Catholic for standing up for your faith, being a great representation of your faith. I've heard you recently call for peace and, you know, all of the teachings of Jesus. And I just can't thank you enough, Michael. I'm proud to call you a friend. Well, thank you, Glenn.

I appreciate that and the feeling is mutual. And let's just pray as largely what we can do right now. Let's pray that there is a happy solution to what is now an urgent and increasingly dire problem. Thank you very much. God bless to everybody. American financing NMLS-182334 www.mLS Consumeraccess.org. Getting yourself and your family out of debt has always been important,

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or Americanfinancing.net. 10 seconds, station ID. So, you know, we're going to do our Friday, good news Friday. And I think our next guest, we should move to tomorrow because it's such great news. I got two or three pieces of great news just yesterday. And I mean great news.

And I can't wait to share it with you. There's one thing that is, I mean, we all stood around when we were talking about it. And we were mind blown. We're like, wait, wait. And what else? Wait. And this, too? it's some really good news.

That'll be on Good News Friday tomorrow. Stu joins me for that, which he's always, he's like Eeyore. I am. That's an interesting summary. Isn't that exactly what Eeyore would say? I am. I am. By the way, Michael's book, Speechless, which came out, I don't know, a year or so ago, is quite good.

It's an interesting read. He's a really smart guy. Very smart. And his focus, a lot. in the book is about language and how important it is and how a lot of times we seed ground in that world without realizing it's not solely in the world of language. You've said this for years and years. You control the language, control the argument. Yeah. And we often, you know, just kind of accept these liberal, progressive changes in language and sort of adopt them often mockingly. We kind of just go

along with him, we laugh at it for a while, and then all of a sudden it's just there. It's there. I mean, you read these stories, like, from the New York Times of the past couple of days talking about gender affirming care. And you'd think as if no one in history had ever disagreed with this concept that you could just switch genders at the snap of a finger's. And it's, you know, they started with the slow boil of, no, there's a difference between gender and sex.

What? I never, wait, what? Gender? What are you talking about? And gender is fluid. No, no, no, it's not. And so it's, you know, when you're making the case to people about this, I'm not against transgenderism. I'm not against transgender people.

I am for the truth. That's what I'm for. I, you know, if this were all true, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I would say, okay, well, all those things are true. I don't agree with the behavior or whatever. But we could agree that it was at least true. Now, is it helpful and healthy to embrace it? That's another discussion.

This is, no, it's true, and you will admit that it's true. I'm fighting for the truth. I'm not fighting against anybody. I am fighting for the verifiable scientific truth. If you lose that, you got nothing left. More in a minute. The Glenn Beck Program. Warren Buffett said last week, we are not through with bank failures.

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Still I'm having a having a hard time figuring this one out. On Wednesday, yesterday, Washington Times reported that starting May 1st, oh wow, that's right around the corner. Americans purchasing a new home or refinancing their existing mortgage can expect to pay higher mortgage rates

and monthly fees if they have a higher credit score. Wait. What? That's a fundamental reversal of all economic theory. You want to make the people who have the better credit scores, pay the higher rates? Yeah, no. They're going to have you pay a higher rate and higher monthly fees because you have a higher credit score.

Americans with lower credit scores and smaller down payments are going to be given better rates. So basically up is down and down is up. Or stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Sure. Redistribution of wealth. Let me ask you this. Look, I haven't put too much thought into this, but let's throw out a possible issue that could be associated with this. What would your incentive be to maintain a high credit score if what it was going to do was to punish you with higher rates?

why would you pay your bills on time if the incentives reversed from where they are now? Are you either white? Or are you a gay, haemaphrodite black trans lizard? What's my incentive of remaining white? If I can just change, perhaps I should go to that second choice, which was too long for me to remember.

remember all the details of. So, you know, it's weird because this is what I'm trying to figure out. Wasn't there something like this that happened 2004, five, six, and seven where they were, okay, they were incentivizing, they were incentivizing banks to give loans to people who couldn't really afford the houses? Yeah, although at least in that. case, they weren't punishing the people who were paying their bills, right? Like they were just handing out mortgages to people who did not qualify for them and that caused the economic

crisis. If you don't understand the concept that socialism and all of this stuff is just, it's not going to make anybody happy. We're all going to be equally miserable. You won't own anything. This is how it begins. You're taking away through now a different kind of tax. How do they even pass this? How does Biden even get this done? It's crazy. And when you say pass this, what does that mean? Pass it. Nothing. Pass it would signify there was a vote by elected representatives to make this occur. That's not what happened, of course, because that's not how we do things these days. Right. So I'm sorry that I misled you on thinking that it was some constitutional way of getting this done.

Understandable misstatement there. Yeah. Okay. So we have that story. Then I have an IRS supervisor has told lawmakers that he has information that suggests the, this from the Wall Street Journal, suggests the Biden administration is improperly handling the criminal investigation into President Biden's son Hunter Biden and is seeking whistleblower protections.

The letter sent to Congress on Tuesday says a Career Internal Revenue Service criminal supervisory special agent has information that would contradict sworn testimony by senior political appointees. The supervisor also has information about a failure to mitigate clear conflicts of interest in the ultimate disposition of the case. The supervisor has details that show preferential treatment. No. Wait, did I read that wrong? The IRS, this whistleblower says, is showing preferential treatment to Biden's son? Hmm. Huh.

Preferential treatment and politics in properly infecting decisions and protocols that would normally be followed by career law enforcement professionals in similar circumstances if the subject were not politically connected. The letter says a supervisor has been overseeing an ongoing and sensitive investigation of a high-profile controversial subject since early 2020. He doesn't name that person, but the investigation at issue is Hunter Biden. So we're now going to see another whistleblower and third. Thank God.

If this guy's telling the truth, thank God that there are some people that are blowing the whistle on this. I mean, you just can't have, you know, two justice systems. Can't do it. By the way, do you hear the ATF director yesterday? Do we have this cut by any chance? The ATF director was, no, we don't. ATF director was asked if he could define an assault weapon. We can't even get a woman.

Right, at this point. They're not going to be able to do an assault weapon. Right. Can you just tell us what an assault weapon is? Can you do that? Keep it short, 15 seconds. He said, well, I'll tell you. I can go shorter than 15 seconds because, you know, if Congress wishes to take me up on that,

I think Congress will have to do the work. But there would, you know, we would be there to provide technical assistance. Can you tell me what the hell you're even talking about? He says over 15 seconds already. Yeah, he says, well, I unlike you, am not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be. Wow, hold it just a second. So the head of the ATF can't define it. Not enough of an expert.

Maybe he's more of an A&T guy. You know, maybe he doesn't get to the F all that often. You know, maybe he's been focusing, maybe he's been drinking a lot. Maybe he's an alcoholic. Right. Yeah. They're like, get the alcoholic to get the gig. Here he is.

As a gun owner of many different types in a 20-year military veteran, I have some expertise in weaponry and self-defense weapons. What could you, in 15 seconds, would you define an assault weapon for me? So if you go after 15 seconds, I'll just interrupt you. So I'll go shorter than that because I honestly, I do think that's a, if Congress switches to take that up, I think Congress would have to do the work, but we would be there to provide technical assistance. I, unlike you, I'm not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be, but we have people at ATF who can talk about

velocity of firearms, what damage different kinds of firearms cause, so that whatever determination you chose to make would be an informed one. Oh, okay. So there is no real definition. It goes beyond black gun bad. Okay. All right. But we can make it up.

Kind of like can you define a woman? Well, no, I mean, I'm not an expert on that. I'm not an expert on that. You know, I'm not a doctor, so I couldn't describe, you know, what a woman is in any way, shape, or form. It really kind of depends on, you know, how we define that. Okay, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. No.

Assault weapon. They were not, no, they're modern sporting rifles. And when I say modern, when's the last time you heard anyone use the word modern, right? Nobody's like, oh, it's very modern. You know why? the modern sporting rifle, because it was out in the 1950s. That's amazing. I can't remember which paper it was.

It was The Washington Post or the New York Times, one of the big mainstream publications did this thing about like, we're going to show you ads for the AR-15. Let's go back and look at how they've advertised this product. And like the idea was to show you, of course, that like they are at, advertising it as a killing machine. You know, it was one of these type of things. And they had a couple. What the hell is a gun, if not a killing machine?

You know, I'm kind of buying that. If I go in and I buy a gun for my own protection, or I'm going deer hunting, and it doesn't kill the object I need to stop, I think then I could actually sue the firearm maker. Right. Does that not mean you're going out to try? to kill people. The point of it is, of course, if you need to, because someone's attacking you, it will work in that fashion, right? Correct. So they go through this long series of ads going back to, you know, the very early days of in 1950s. He said 1960s. It was 1950s. They have, all the way back to 1957 was the first prototype. But they go back to the first ad they show.

And what have you heard about the AR-15 all this time? it's a weapon of war, right? It's a weapon of war, weapon of war. We keep saying, no, that's not how it was developed at all. The first ad they cite a superb hunting partner, Colt's new AR-15 Sporter. It is exactly what we've been saying this entire time. They're trying to prove that over time the AR-15 ads went from a hunting situation into, oh, the brutal murder people. But like, again, like they don't even prove that, of course.

obviously there's 100 ways to go on the story, but like they've been telling us forever this was developed as a weapon of war in their own publication. They're showing the ads saying it is designed for hunting. They've been saying, you don't need an AR-15 to hunt. They just showed us the initial ad in 1960 freaking four

about a modern sporting rifle. A superb hunting partner. If you're a hunter, a camper or a collector. They go on and on if you're ready for a new hunting adventure. This is them. This isn't us saying this.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What are you hunting? Maybe you're hunting your neighbors. The ultimate hunt with an AR-15. Now back to leave it to beaver. All right. Thank you.

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If you're in pain and you've given up on everything else, just try it, please. It's a, it's an I keep thinking inflation. Ibeprofen. Inflammation, thank you. You can tell where my mind is. it's an inflammation reducer, and that's the cause of a lot of our pain and a lot of our disease as well. It's good to get it under control, and this really helps, unlike for me at least, ibuprofen. Try Relieffactor. Relieffactor.com. 1-800, the number four relief. Get the 1995, three-week quick start. Relieffactor.com. 800, the number four, relief. Relief factor. Feel the difference. This is the Glenn Back program. Well, it was good to see that Federman was back at work.

You know, it's been a while. It's been a while. But, you know, he immediately went to work as the chairman of a committee. Don't even care what committee it is. A chairman of a committee. A guy who we all know, they announced, he can process things. but he can't handle chaos cross talk. That's the guy with a gavel.

Order, order, order. He has it now. And again, I would say he's been at work for three months, but of course he didn't show up to almost all of those days. Well, he was depressed. Right. So, okay, maybe day one doesn't come back into committee to run the farm bill, which is, by the way, the last.

He's the best person to run the farm. We are going to have a tractor in every pot and a chicken in every garage. That is what we will wind up with if he does this. Yeah, I mean, yeah. A good thing, though. Look, if we could just get him to be assisted by Feinstein. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a dynamic duo.

What's the difference between him and Feinstein? Come on. Come on. I don't. Come on. It's a no-brainer. Ah, ha, ha, ha. Oh, my.

We do have audio of him. Coming back, this is big, his big return. Okay. Do we want to hear some of this? Yeah. Okay, it's pretty good. There's a gavel. I called this hearing of the U.S. Senate subcommittee and food and nutrition, especially

crops, organics, and research to order. Chairwoman Stevenow and ranking member Boozman, thank you so much for coming. He's not looking at all, by the way. I thank you for your leadership on this committee, and I look forward to a working. with you to pass a farm bill. Farm bill. Farm bill. The farm bill that works for small farmers,

rural communities, and hungry Americans. I would also like to thank my raking member, Senator Braun. I look forward to working closely with you. Good delivery of that line. Snap. Can you imagine... Can you imagine... Can you imagine...

Awful people. Actually, having... knowledge. I'm not saying anyone in the room has this, but knowledge of farming and what needs to be done. And you've worked your ass off for, you know, 20 years. And this guy comes in and you're sitting at the table with him going and farm stuff for corn. You'd be like, what the hell? Right. And even take out the fact that the man had a stroke and obviously isn't capable of communicating with human beings. What is he known for? He was a small town mayor.

No, no, those work out well. And he's known for wearing hoodies and gym shorts. What the hell does this guy know about farming? Are you kidding me? Look what a small town mayor can do in, let's say, transportation. Yeah, I guess maybe you're right on that one. At least Pete Buttigieg actually had to fix potholes. Do you remember when we used to look up to people and go, wow, that person is accomplished?

Yeah. Now we look into like, always. How did they get that job? And to get that job that you're talking about is overseeing a bill that will exceed $1 trillion. Oh my. The Glenn Back Program.