The Glenn Beck Program - Glenn's Iowa Caucus Predictions ... with an Asterisk | Guests: Vivek Ramaswamy & Steve Deace | 1/15/24
Episode Date: January 15, 2024Glenn and Stu look at the latest polls from Iowa and discuss the possible outcomes of the state's caucus as the state also battles a winter storm. Glenn reads through an article that claims Trump will... do everything the Left is currently doing if elected. The FAA's new hiring targets are terrifying. BlazeTV host Steve Deace joins to discuss the possible outcomes of the Iowa caucus as Iowa is facing a deep freeze. 2024 GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy joins to discuss Trump's attack on him and the Iowa caucus. Former U.K. foreign office civil servant Anna Stanley joins to expose how prestigious institutions in the U.K. are indoctrinating their civil servants with dangerous identity politics propaganda. Glenn and Stu react to Fulton County DA Fani Willis giving a Sunday morning message at a church. Glenn and Stu give their final Iowa predictions as the polls show a dead heat for second place as Trump leads. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, let's say hello to our very own Stu Berggear.
Hello, Stu. How are you?
Mr. Beck, how are you?
Oh, my God.
Gosh, we've got about an eighth of an inch of snow and the city is completely shut down.
So we are both broadcasting from our homes today.
But I'm glad you're here, Stu, because today is really a day where you really shine
because you follow politics so closely and things like this.
I want to get a quick idea of what's coming today in Iowa.
There was a new poll that came out over the weekend.
Yeah, there's a bunch of them actually, but the big one was the Des Moines Register poll, which is kind of seen as the gold standard poll of the state.
Correct.
And it's interesting.
It has Trump out ahead by a large margin, has Nikki Haley at second.
I think it's 48 for Trump, 20% for Nikki Haley, 16% for Ron DeSantis.
And obviously that's catastrophic for DeSantis, if that's why it winds up holding up.
The underlying stuff, we can go through this later if you want, but the underlying
stuff behind the pole here and the, you know, shows a weakness for Haley in that second
place slot. There's not a lot of enthusiasm for her. There's a lot of Democratic and independent
supporters that are tied into that. And, you know, as you point out, we have one eighth of an inch
of snow and the entire city shut down. Now, I know Iowa does not go down that same road. They're a little
tougher. Really? On this stuff. Well, hang on just a second. Texans just, we have no snow removal
equipment. We have nothing. There were like 18 accidents on the freeway with one of the people that drove in this morning. The cops are reporting all kinds of accidents because we don't have anything to clear it and we absolutely don't have any idea how to drive in it.
Sure. And, you know, look, people in Iowa are prepared for difficult winter weather. They deal with it every year. But I will say, you know, look, could we have gotten into work today? Probably. You know, some people are there. I mean,
I mean, no, we couldn't have.
Of course, but we are.
We're too rural for where we are.
Yes.
But, I mean, you know, it's certainly possible to do, you know, and we have a job, right?
Now we're able to broadcast from home, so it makes it okay.
But it's like, if you're at a caucus site, you are, let's say you're, I don't know,
25 minute rural drive from a farm to go to some caucus site, it is negative 7 degrees.
It is negative 20 with the wind chill.
You're still dealing with multiple feet of snow on the ground.
that's a big ask to get somebody out there tonight.
So, I mean, the polling where normally it has its problem,
it's difficult to poll Iowa anyway for this thing.
But when you add on to the fact this weather,
I don't know, anything, anything could happen.
Nothing would surprise me tonight.
I think the ones that are motivated are the Trump voters,
even though he is at 28, down just a little bit from the last poll that was taken in December,
but within the margin of error.
And, you know, I think.
I think Haley's support is soft.
However, the Democrats are talking about changing over to be Republican just to be able to caucus for Haley today.
So she might, you know, she might make up some of the lackluster support.
I mean, it's really a problem when the Democrats are, you know, pumping money into a campaign on the other side and they're switching so they can vote.
And they're not voting for her.
They'll never vote for her in the general.
They're just trying to screw Donald Trump.
I mean, certainly that's true, right?
And you look at the breakdowns of where these people come from, you know, about 80% of both DeSantis supporters and Trump supporters are Republicans.
That number is less than half for Nikki Haley, only about 49%.
50% of her voters are either independents or Democrats.
Now look, that's something that's going to help her a little bit in this race, potentially.
Though, again, I question how passionate a democratic person who's going to do what you're just talking about, Glenn,
like wants to come out and send a message against Donald Trump and vote for a person they don't even like.
It's hard for me to believe that person's going out in this weather, but maybe they will.
And that will help Nikki Haley here.
It'll help her a lot more in New Hampshire.
But that starts dying out pretty quickly if you're depending on independent.
and Democratic voters to win this election.
Well, I don't know if you have missed this, Stu, but experts now say that Donald Trump
is going to be a dictator.
And NBC reports this last weekend that a circle of appointees independent of Trump's political
operation steered him away from ideas that have pushed the limits of presidential power
in his last term.
But now they have said,
We can't do it again.
We just can't do it again.
And Trump has raised fresh questions.
This is all from NBC News about his intentions.
If he regains power by putting forward a legal theory that a president would be free to do nearly anything with impunity.
So in other words, he could, the NBC says, assassinate political rivals?
Whoa.
I mean, thank goodness he's not going to put him in prison.
or anything like that.
He's able to assassinate people.
He would be able to put his enemies in jail.
He would be able to, let's just say, go against the Supreme Court over and over again
and let's say forgive student debt.
They really are afraid that he might use.
In fact, let me quote this here.
The president could do almost anything.
the Pentagon is concerned that he may use every tool in the toolbox and he may use the Insurrection Act,
which would give the President all kinds of power to call anything an uprising and insurrection.
And then he would purge, get this, he would purge the Pentagon of all of his place.
political opponents. So he would, let's just say, after an uprising of some sort, he could just call
anything insurrection. And then he could go and say, we're getting rid of all of the enemies,
all the insurrectionists in the Pentagon. And he could purge it, Stu. This is, wow, I'm concerned
that he may go to the level of trying to get his opponents thrown off the ballot or maybe even put
them in prison, Glenn.
That's what I'm concerned about.
Wow.
And I don't know.
I hope he doesn't go that far because that would be just like a dictator.
Richard Blumenthal and because he's a friend, I can call him Dick, said there are a array
of horrors that could result from Donald Trump's unrestricted use of the Insurrection Act.
He would become a dictator.
On his first day, he could close the border and begin drilling.
for oil. Oh man. Oh no. He could do it. So here's what this report is saying that there are now
many people. They're admitting that there is a deep state. The, the aim is to identify like-minded
organizations and people in the government to create a coalition to challenge Trump from day
one. Some participants are combing through policy papers being crafted for a future conservative
administration. They're also watching the interviews that Trump allies are giving to the press for clues of how a Trump sequel would look. Other participants include Democracy Forward, an organization that took Trump and his administration in court the more than a hundred times. They're preparing litigation and they're going to use every tactic that they can, which would provide the American people an ability to fight back. Wow.
This sounds like the deep state and everything that, you know, the conspiracy theorists have said goes on.
And may I ask, what is the difference between 2016 and 2024?
Isn't this exactly what the Democrats did in 2016?
Sure.
And it doesn't seem like there's any rational reason to argue this.
It's funny because they, you could argue this sounds just like a Trump campaign commercial to a lot of primary voters right now.
Oh, yeah.
They want him to take action and to be as aggressive as possible.
I don't want him.
And he has said, I'm going to be too busy for retribution.
I don't want retribution.
I do want justice.
I want people who are against the republic and quite honestly against democracy as they define him.
and taking this on their own and saying that they're going to thwart the will of the duly elected
president, whoever he is.
Yeah.
And you have obviously, Trump says what he says.
I mean, he likes to take, sometimes some flourishes with his speech.
I don't think anyone in the world believes he's going to run out of time for retribution.
That is the one thing he will schedule every morning.
That is, I will say, have you ever seen a time where he's like, you know what?
just don't have time to fire back against that annoying tweet I saw yesterday. Like, that's not
part of who Donald Trump is. He's going to, I mean, retribution is a different word. I mean, look,
he's used these words, Glenn, and he's used them. And sometimes they bring him, you know,
they bring him these questions. But in reality, if you kind of boil it down, I mean, is he
going to be a dictator on day one? No. Is he going to try to be aggressive with his, with his executive
powers? I think the answer to that one is yes. And that may make some conservatives as uncomfortable
as some moderates and liberals, but like it depends on how he doesn't.
And as long as he's doing it within the constitutional bounds, that's something I think right now
primary voters really want.
Yeah.
And I don't have a problem as long as it remains in constitutional bounds.
I don't have a problem with it at all.
I prefer that it's not done through executive order because that can just be undone with the
next president, whoever that might be.
We've got to start using the balance of power.
and using the Congress the way it's supposed to be used.
Unfortunately, we have too many weasel Republicans.
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They found a, yeah, they found a crack in the front window of another Boeing plane over the weekend.
But it's not Boeing you have to worry about.
It's really not.
Well, you should worry about Boeing.
But it's not just.
Just Boeing.
Wait until you hear the latest from Biden's FAA.
We'll give that and more on Iowa here.
Just a second.
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Okay, so a Japanese domestic flight
was forced to turn back after a crack was found
in the cockpit window, but you know, why, why worry about that? It's another Boeing plane.
But here's the thing that I think is we're all going to love. We're all going to love because we all
love diversity, inclusion, and equity. We all love it. So the FAA, the federal aviation
administration, is now putting a priority and hiring people, ready, with,
severe intellectual disabilities as part of its diversity and inclusion initiative.
According to the website, the FAA claims individuals with targeted or severe disabilities
for the most underrepresented segment of the federal workforce.
Under its people with disabilities program, the agency says it is actively recruiting
hire and promote, retain, and develop, and advances people with disabilities.
The following disabilities are targets for the FAA to hire those with hearing impairment
vision missing extremities partial paralysis complete paralysis Epilepsy severe intellectual
disabilities, psychiatric disabilities and dwarfism now if I were born
a little person, I think I would be a little upset that I was put in the same categories of those with
severe intellectual disabilities and psychiatric disability. Do you want somebody who's up in the
tower or making any decisions on planes at all with a severe psychic or psychiatric disability
or a severe intellectual disability? What is wrong with us?
with no I want the person who's most qualified for the job regardless of their skin color or
or really any immutable characteristic you can pull out eye color not that important I mean the dwarfism
thing I guess it matters how you need to be able to see over the over the cockpit dashboard I
mean that's about my requirement can you reach the pedals like that is something that is important
to me outside of that what you're saying is you have to be at least this high to ride this
ride is that what you're saying exactly you know
you know, it's one thing to say, hey, we're, you know, we'll hire all body types or whatever.
Severe intellectual disabilities.
Why would we hire those people?
Why?
Sincerely.
I mean, look, you have a severe intellectual disability.
You know, then we're going to have you go and do some job that,
you know, doesn't involve airplanes.
It's just, I mean, that's my thought.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you know, it's not to say that they might not get a job if they are able to,
to do a particular job for a particular place.
Maybe it works out in certain circumstances.
But like, there are certain jobs and have certain characteristics.
You maybe Glenn aren't the best point guard for the Dallas Mavericks, right?
No, it's not, it's not because they hate you.
It's not because you would, you know, you're being.
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And that's the way works.
I wouldn't make a good pilot.
I'm riddled with ADD.
Don't hire me as a pilot.
If somebody is like me and they're the pilot, I want off the plane.
I want off the plane.
Okay.
What is the problem with saying that?
We've gone from, yeah, well, I mean, let's hire, you know, the person of color.
You know, if they're the same, if they have the same intelligence.
and you know whatever the same qualifications who gives a flying crap but if you have a
severe intellectual disability I don't know I think we should go where somebody who can
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So may I just
take a side note here
for just a second?
I'm,
you know,
I just started watching football
and getting into football
a couple of years ago.
So I'm not,
you know,
I'm not your typical football
fan at all.
But I have to tell you,
now I just have something else in my life to be pissed about.
I went to the,
I went to the Cowboys game yesterday,
and it was awful, awful.
And I can't.
I have a different perspective on that one.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
And I've never seen a crowd.
And tell me if this is typical, Stu.
I've never seen a crowd turn on their own team
like they did yesterday.
day in Dallas. Did you happen to see the game? Of course I did.
Of course, you have to remember here, Glenn, you're talking to a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
No, I know that. I know that. Every time they have one bad play, the entire crowd turns on them and starts
throwing things from the stadium. So I have seen this before. It was by the second quarter and definitely
in the third, like the stadium grew very, very quiet. And they would, you know, they would, you know,
they'd run for 10 yards and have a first down and you'd be like uh-huh well you'll blow it next time
i walked out uh because after in the third quarter after they gave away yet another touchdown
uh i uh i got up and i'm like we're got we're out of here i'm not waiting in traffic for this mess
and uh and it was packed i mean we waited in traffic because everybody was leaving by the
by the third quarter and uh as i'm walking out i said to the usher well
maybe next year.
And she looked at me and she went,
yeah, right.
I love this.
The Cowboys fans are turning in and adopting the pessimism of Eagles fans,
which is kind of fun to watch.
It's really bad.
It was ugly, man.
That was a brutal game.
Congratulations to the Packers who did a great job and deserved to win that game.
They out played them.
They were by far the better team.
And I would be more trash talking about the Cowboys today if the Eagles weren't
going to play in, you know, roughly 12 hours.
And I was, they're probably going to lose to the buck.
So I'm going to, I'm going to hold back on this.
But it was a terrible loss.
And this has happened so many times to them.
It's got to be incredibly painful for Caldons.
Did you, did you see the, uh, the fans of the bills clearing the stadium?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Those people are die hards.
Oh, they had, did you see what the guy who took his shirt off and went down a snow slide?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Guys, what are you doing?
Even the Chiefs, we were watching the Chiefs, what was that on Saturday,
we're watching the Chiefs and how are you playing in negative four with, you know, with no sleeves?
I mean, did you see Andy Reed's mustache?
Yeah.
It was like an ice palace.
It really was.
It was.
The thick mustache is not the best thing to have on the sidelines in that particular moment.
No.
But yeah, I mean, the weather's brutal, Glenn.
And like, you know, again, we're talking about the Iowa situation going on today.
Like, there is a real level of passion you have to hit to force yourself out in the middle of this.
Imagine, you know, they were talking about some of these events that were going on with the candidates over the weekend where people couldn't get to them because they had just been snow plowed into their driveways, right?
Like the plows come by, they've got two feet, two foot wall basically of snow and they couldn't get out of the driveways.
you add that on to just being cold and miserable and I think the real idea for most people
that this is sort of a foregone conclusion right I mean all these polls are showing
Trump up by multiple dozen percent and you know I don't know if you're if you're on the fence
or just not that passionate about your guy if you haven't been spending two years out there
every single day campaigning for someone you know I don't know you're probably like
let the chips fall where they may I'm staying in the warm
heat here. Trump gets first choice support from 48% of likely Republican caucus goers,
followed by Haley at 20%, Desantis at 16 and Vivek at 8%. Haley only has 9% of really excited,
enthusiastic supporters, though. That's not real good to get you past your big driveway that you've
been plowed into.
Yeah.
That's, I mean,
legitimately a terrible number.
The person who did,
the lady who did the poll who's like the,
you know,
the guru of polling,
if you will in,
in Iowa said,
Haley has surpassed DeSantis,
but most of the rest of the data here
is not good news.
The deep data on Haley suggests
she looks stronger in the poll
than she could on caucus night.
And that's a quote.
I mean, I think that's really,
you look through it layer after layer,
and that's what you find.
You know, people are like,
she kind of seems like the candidate
that is having a little bit of a moment and her top line numbers are better than DeSantis.
It just seems in this particular situation, I will not be surprised at all if DeSantis is able to overcome this polling deficit and finish in second.
But again, that's what we're talking about.
We're talking about second, right?
And a lot of people are not going to be all that interested in getting out to see who comes in second in the Iowa caucuses.
By the way, we invited all of the candidates to be on with us today.
Vivek is going to be joining us.
The others turned us down, but I wanted you to know that we were trying to get all of them on, to be fair, to talk to all of them.
My son said, and I'd love to hear your opinion on this, too.
My son said, Dad, why is Nikki Haley so hated by some and also now starting to come up in the polls?
And I, in my opinion was, I don't think she's hated.
Well, maybe by some.
I don't think she's hated.
She's just, she's come out against abortion.
I mean, for, you know, abortion in a way.
She's weak on that, I would say.
Yeah, she's just weak, yeah.
She has come out a very strong war person, which I think is really unpopular with conservatives right now.
it's weird how we have switched places on so many things.
And yet the left doesn't seem to understand that yet.
They're out there protesting at the WEF and Davos today.
They're out en masse protesting.
This is wrong.
This is a dictatorship.
We're like, yeah, yeah, you should probably listen to other people that are saying that.
Maybe join some forces on a few things.
But anyway, so I think it's her war stance.
her support from really big Democrat supporters and her softness on abortion.
Yeah, I think that's part of it.
I think, you know, I think there are two different things there when it comes to the abortion
issue and the war issue.
The abortion issue, there's a softness there.
She says she's pro-life, but like really sounds like she would equivocate when she was president
in the United States.
It doesn't seem like it's a core issue to her.
I don't know that that is a real fuel of hatred, though, toward her.
I think people don't like that stance.
You know, obviously, you know, obviously pro-life, hardcore pro-life people are really sensitive to that.
But that percentage is relatively low when you look at the polls.
Yeah.
Even in the Republican primary.
The war situation, though, like you see almost like the abortion position of Haley is her weakness to try to bring in a broader crowd, right?
Like she's saying like, oh, well, we can't get those votes right now.
But if we could, maybe I'd be forward.
And it's more of like a typical politician stance.
And she's bending to try to get moderates and independence.
And look, her general election polling looks good, probably for that reason.
The foreign affairs thing with Ukraine is totally different.
That is core, Nikki Haley.
That is who she is.
And I think she does know that she's going against the grain with the Republican voters on this.
But she believes it.
And she believes it.
And look, I don't like her view on some of those issues, but I do respect the fact that she's out there actually defending it, unlike so many other people.
She's not hiding from that one.
And you could tell that's to her core.
The abortion thing doesn't seem like it is.
It seems like she would be weak on that.
And she's trying to find some weird, yeah, triangulate and find some weird middle ground that will help her.
That's not what she's doing on Ukraine.
She could be more skeptical on Ukraine, and it would probably help her in these primaries and caucuses.
she's not done that and I I respect her for actually coming out and defending that position.
As Mike Pence did as well, it didn't work, but it was honest.
And I like hearing different views and I like the honesty of that.
Long term, whether that's going to help her, I don't think it is in the primaries, but that's where she is now.
It's just way out of step with where conservatives are right now.
I mean, I don't know what would happen if Donald Trump got in and he was,
like, hey, we're going to war in Zimbabwe.
I would hope that we would all go, Zimbab.
No, I don't think so.
I don't.
I'm a skeptic on that one, Glenn.
I think there'd be a lot of people who went along with, you know.
I mean, I just think that's where we are.
There's a lot of personalities out there.
I mean, it's the thing with Vivek this weekend.
We should ask him about it.
I mean, you know, Trump came out and criticized him for the first time in this campaign.
Yeah.
And, you know, look, Vivek is trying to find a way to get, he's trying to obviously appeal to
Trump voters. He came out with a statement that was basically like, I'm not going to really say anything.
But like you saw like the influencers who were Trump supporters, many of them online, who have
been saying nonstop good things about Vivek every single day for the past year. Now all of a sudden
thinks he think he's bad. And it's like this isn't even serious. Like primary season is the dumbest
season. People just constantly just say the most certain things and the dumbest things over and over and over again.
Including, you know, the candidates.
You know, everybody just grows just a stupid limb off of their tree, and they just kind of dance on it all the time.
But, you know, last week I told you that Donald Trump, I talked to Donald Trump, and he asked me,
who do you think I should grab for vice president?
And I said, I think it should be Vivek.
And he said, why?
And I said, because A, he's been very supportive of you, I think he would be a good supporting vice president.
He could go out and fight some of the fires with the press that would, you know, that you would need to fight.
You know, you just pick the ones you want and let him handle all the rest.
And I said, I think he's, I think he's young, a different generation.
and you could be ushering in the next generation of politician.
And I think that would be good.
And he said, you know, that is the number one name I hear all the time.
I hear that name as people's first choice for vice president.
He said, and he's been good to me.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Yeah.
And then this weekend said he's not maga and he's been deceitful.
And, you know, again, I think once this primary process is over,
Trump will come back and say that he's fine and he's great.
And, you know, I mean, like, you know, look, we know that, you know,
Trump's patterns on this stuff.
But like, you know, there's no, it's important for people to make their own minds up.
And I think in the primary process, people get as passionate and stupid as I am about the Philadelphia Eagles, right?
But that's, this is not a sport.
You shouldn't be like that.
I don't know if they're that stupid.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I have to back you up on that analysis.
Not that stupid.
But like it's true.
It's like people treat these things.
I can't, you know, I look at, you know, occasionally you pop on social media and you
look through your feet and it's like these, there's, you know, thousands of people who follow
me on social media and with you even more, obviously, Glenn, and they're all destroying
each other in the comments.
Like as if it's like communist versus capitalist like back in the 80s.
And it's like, well, you guys probably disagree on.
10% of these issues?
Like, it's the psychosis that comes in and penetrates every party this time of year is just
like, it's overwhelming.
And I'm just, I'm glad to see we're going to actually get some votes today.
This is no longer going to be everybody speculating.
The votes come today.
It's why, you know, we have said from the beginning on this, because we only violated this,
really, I think, one time in my career.
And that was in 2016.
And that was just a disaster.
We didn't change anybody's mind.
You know, it didn't, and it ended up being wrong.
And so we were saying, uh, you know, let's not say anything.
Let's let people decide because they're going to decide anyway.
We're not here to influence.
We're here to inform.
And so we've tried to do that.
Now, if we can all come together, because I don't know about anybody else, but, uh, you know,
unless it's.
Unless it's Asa Hutchinson, I'm voting for a Republican.
And even then, it would be ASA.
You know, even then I'd be like, oh, geez,
okay.
I mean, unless there's somebody else on the ballot,
but there's, you know, that never works out.
And, you know, it's so strange, Stu,
I'm watching the Democrats do exactly what they did in 2016.
They think that they can influence this election.
in a myriad of ways by trying him,
well, that's not working,
by possibly putting him in jail.
What is that really going to do?
By having secret meetings
where they're all gathering to say,
how do we thwart him?
To today, Democrats coming in
and becoming Republicans for the day
to vote for Nikki Haley in the caucus.
I mean, stop it.
Just vote for the person.
that you like.
Let the chips fall where they may.
Right.
Stop getting yourself.
I mean, you can't control everybody else.
Glenn, one quick part on this.
I could be the voice of all the people
from the non-Trump candidates here for a second.
It does seem like the media is going out of its way
to try to influence this in a situation where Trump wins.
I mean, there's a positive story on Donald Trump
and how he's getting more supportive than Republican Party
in the New York Times yesterday.
that doesn't seem like they're typical efforts to sink Donald Trump.
Yes.
However, there is also the NBC story that Trump is a dictator, worse than Hitler.
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She said she's now only being dragged through the mud because of racism.
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Steve, what does it feel like on the ground in Iowa?
What's the temperature?
Right now it's minus 8, and I want to scream that like the publisher and Elf.
Minus 8!
Okay?
I mean, it is.
I mean, Glenn, I've lived in this same house for 17 years.
I've never seen snow drifts in my front walk this high.
This is soul crushing, go in a corner, and begin self-harm levels of cold.
Oh, Steve, fuck up, man.
If Kansas City could play on Saturday in negative four without sleeves,
certainly you can get out of your house.
Well, some of us are going to.
Now, comparing the average Iowa and to the best athletes in America might be a bit of a
But some of us are going to, and that's the thing, though, Glenn, I don't know what some of us will.
I mean, I went to the last, the campaign closing event for Ron DeSantis last night.
And even in one of our largest suburbs of Ankeny, to get up hills, I still had to go four-wheel drive in residential areas three days after this snow left.
The blowing, the drifting, most of our residential areas are covered in ice, sheets of ice,
our school kids in the metros are looking at maybe a five-day weekend between the closures last week,
and then today, the holiday, and then probably tomorrow as well.
Wow.
And you guys never close.
You never close schools there, right?
It's got to take a lot, man.
Yeah, yeah.
We have this thing called winter every year, you know, and the colleges are usually in January and February,
but this is pretty extraordinary.
There's wind chill warnings throughout the state, literally telling elderly people do not go out
side. It is, the turnout model here tonight is going to be very fascinating. I have no idea what's
going to happen. I really don't. Well, there you go. Yet another victim of global cooling,
global warming or whatever it is. So who do you think are the most motivated people? I mean,
you know, I read about Nikki Haley's crew and the latest poll shows she's only got about 9% of those who
behind her, really exhilarated by her campaign.
So between that and now the Democrats saying they're going to show up in caucus for her,
is she going to actually perform at that 20% that the register said she was going to perform at
tonight?
No, that poll is a curse to her.
It really raised expectations for her campaign because most people are just going to read
the top line and not the cross-fills.
tabs, and if you read the cross tabs, basically her base of people isn't motivated to vote for
and prefers Biden in the general election, right? So, brother, if I don't know how many Republicans
are going to show up in this weather and sit around for an hour to caucus, I sure as hell don't
think there's going to be a lot of Democrats and independents that want to come in and hang out
with people they probably don't like, all right, and brave this weather. So I actually, if I would,
if you made me make one prediction, I would, I would predict.
I think she's going to finish closer to Vivek Ramoswamy tonight than to Ron DeSantis.
I think this has largely been AstroTurf this entire time.
The Des Moines Register poll is wrong every caucus cycle.
I have no idea why it's held up as a gold standard.
It's held up as a gold standard, but it's wrong every cycle.
And it's held up by the same people that tell you it's a gold standard,
told you a couple of winners ago that Chinese face diapers are 99% effective against airborne contagions.
Okay.
So it's just it's never right at all.
I would go by the behavior of the campaigns.
They know better than anyone else.
They've got the best data, but they have the best observation.
I think the fact the former president hustled to get up here one final time over the weekend,
I doubt he's concerned about losing.
He's probably more concerned.
He's got to cover a spread.
Like, you know, Glenn, I mean, who's been favored by 50 points in these polls all year?
He wins tonight by like nine or 10.
People would be like, what the hell is going on?
You know?
So he's probably concerned about.
that. And now you're starting to see late in the process, the organization that the DeSantis
campaign built, which was patterned a lot after what we built on the Cruz campaign in 2016 here,
but they've done it even better, I think. Now you're starting to see it kind of harvest and
have a fruition. So I think he'll overperform. To what extent, I don't know. I could see him
getting anywhere from, say, 20 to 38. I could see Trump getting anywhere from 35 to 50. I think it's that
volatile with the with the turnout model right now because of the weather and everything here in
Iowa.
I know that you are, you know, you've, you've jumped on the DeSantis bandwagon, so try to be as
fair as you can on this.
Who has the most walk through a wall of fire, or in this case, walk through an ice storm
to vote?
I think that's clearly the former president, but I think people need to understand that.
And you know this, because you can't.
year to campaign with Cruz against the former president in 2016. So you saw this with your own eyes.
That the evangelical base in Iowa is not like which you've seen a lot of red states for Donald
Trump. It is admiration, not adulation. All right? And so, you know, for example, he won our
state in the general election twice. No Republicans done that since Reagan. He was instrumental.
You know, people like me that worked for 10 years to try to make Iowa look like Texas. You know,
the last nut we couldn't crack is we couldn't convince rural counties.
to vote Republican because they thought we were all corporatists.
And Trump was kind of the last, he was, he was the last ingredient in the formula here that
helped us split this state red by flipping about 30 counties that voted for Obama once or
twice.
He flipped him to vote for him twice.
So he is popular here, but Iowans take this process, you know, I wouldn't say, David, it's
very serious, you know?
They do.
They do.
And I wish the rest of the country took it as seriously as Iowa does.
I mean, I was going on the road, I was shocked.
They are a year out, and they are already gathering together in their towns and listening to campaign speeches.
I mean, they take it very seriously, and I think that's great.
Yes.
And so I think they're able to look at, for example, they can say, hey, I love what the former president has done for rural Iowa.
It's been great.
We are one of the states.
I know there's a big debate in the Republican Party right now, what the Trump brand has done, you know, in places of like suburban states.
and exurban states, but in a rural state like Iowa, he's been a plus benefit. There's no question about that.
But Iowans are also able to say, yeah, just because I liked him before doesn't mean I like him again.
And so I think that there will be some soft Trump supporters that will flip to DeSantis tonight based on the strength of his organization.
What that number will be, though, I have absolutely no idea. I mean, I really don't.
Where will Nikki Haley's voters go if they flip?
I don't know how many voters she has. First of all, I think she's relying a lot on people that don't traditionally vote Republican. And just so people understand what I mean by turnout models, you know, typically we get about 25 or 26 percent of Republicans will turn out in a caucus. This year it's going to be less because we have more Republicans in Iowa than ever before, about 670,000. So if we have, say, a turnout of 150,000, which I think would be pretty good in this weather, you're talking about almost only one out of every six Republicans.
is showing up to vote here.
So if most of her, and people ask why is that?
Because in the caucus, you vote the way the founding fathers did.
You don't show up, pull a curtain on your break and walk out.
You show up, you listen to speeches.
Maybe you'll be called on to give a speech.
You may be asked to give an account for why you're voting the way you are,
or you can volunteer to do that.
Horse trading goes on there.
Party business goes on there.
The process can take an hour or more in some places, depending on how large the precinct is.
So you've got to be really committed.
to wanting to be a part of the process to take part in a caucus.
And that's just not the kinds of people that typically vote for a Nikki Haley.
She's basically the John Kasich of this cycle.
Why do you suppose, I mean, I have my opinions.
Why do you suppose DeSantis, who before this race started,
seemed like it could be a lot closer between him and Donald Trump?
And it just hasn't materialized.
It did it first.
and then it just kind of dissipated.
Why?
Well, if you go and look,
and I think let's find out what happens tonight.
I think tonight will give us,
I'll probably be able to answer this question more for you tomorrow
in terms of both its premise and application
based on what happens tonight.
But preemptively, you know,
if you look at the real clear politics national polling average on March 30th,
it was something like 42 Trump 32 DeSantis,
and he wouldn't even be a candidate
for another almost two months.
A week later on April 6th, Trump is now up like 54 to 25.
So what happened?
DeSantis isn't even a candidate.
What happened is on March 31st, Donald Trump got indicted by Alvin Bragg.
And the biggest pin in poll and yin and yang of this cycle has been, you know,
what's happening to Trump is wrong.
So you have these dual, you know, philosophies.
Trump can't win another national election.
we've lost every national election cycle since he miraculously won in 2016 versus vis-a-vis.
What they're doing to him is wrong. It's un-American.
And, you know, I want him to return like MacArthur in the Philippines.
And we're going to finish this script.
And if you look at the internals of a lot of the polls that had him way ahead of DeSantis,
which you'll see is in favorabilities, DeSantis is either even with Trump or often ahead.
And I think the biggest cell that Ron DeSantis has had to make,
I think there's a lot of people.
I think what people like you and me see on Twitter, that we've destroyed Ron DeSantis'
brand, but, you know, these Trump influencers, that's just not true.
If it were his favorables, would have plummeted.
I think what DeSantis has had to do is get out of the friend zone.
He's had this.
He's got to make the sale that his time is now.
And I think people are torn between, do we turn the page from Trump or do we finish the script
with Trump?
And that's why I said, I want to see and wait what happens tonight.
to give you a more definitive answer because I think this will be the first verdict on
how successful can you be convincing people that Trump's time is passed
and it's your time now as opposed to 2028.
And if he performs, if he falls into third, he's done or not?
I'd be stunned to be finished third.
Yeah, I would too.
I would too.
I think he's going, if there's two things I'm confident in, it'll be a disappointing turnout
and he's going to overperform.
But I don't know what overperform is.
Could it be 22?
Could it be 38, 40?
I mean, I think when we're talking rural America,
rural Iowa where Trump's needs huge turnouts,
and people may have to drive tractors to get to precinct sites,
given where things are going on right now.
I just, you know, the average Fox News viewer is 69 years old, as you well know.
I mean, those are very supportive of Trump.
I don't know how many of those people are going to come out in this weather, given their health and the dangers of the ice and everything else.
I just don't know the answer to that.
Okay.
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Steve, I don't know if they've just asked you
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How long can you stay with me?
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You know what?
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Okay.
Tell me about the kerfuffle, if you will,
between Donald Trump and Ramoswami this weekend?
Here's what I think is twofold.
Number one, you know, we have, in a lot of these races,
you have these under the radar issues that just don't penetrate the national coverage.
And in Iowa right now, in northwest Iowa, especially where we have a large concentration of Republicans,
there is a huge deal with eminent domain.
And there's Republican Party interest on both sides of it.
Some want the fuel to go through the community.
Others want to keep their farms.
And so this is a very divisive issue on the right now in Iowa.
And Vivek, after he didn't qualify for the last debate, has really focused a lot of his energy on that issue.
And number one, so I think number one, I think the Trump campaign is concerned that he may be drawing from some of their rural support.
And if they're concerned about either winning or more likely meeting expectations,
If a bait gets four, five, or six points higher than the polls today or tonight, it's going to be at Trump's expense, nobody else's.
And I think they're concerned about that.
But then also, you know, one of the guys I've met in this process is a tech entrepreneur from Florida, a successful guy named Robert Salvador.
And he is trying to bring AI to public polling.
And using AI to basically look at people's digital footprints what they're actually posting in public on their social media pages,
because that's more honest about what they think than what they tell polls.
Okay? Yes. And what he has been seeing is an uptick in these last couple of weeks in two candidates' digital footprints, desantis, but also the Vakes. And if you know, you know, Trump is the one candidate on the right, going back to 2016 with Parscale and others, who really understood how to use data, Cambridge Analytica, all that kind of stuff to his advantage of the world he lives in. And I also wonder if they are seeing that increase in the Vake's digital footprint as well. I think they're concerned that Vake may play a role in,
either him winning tonight or more likely him meeting expectations. And so I think Order 66 went out.
All right. We have only two minutes. And Vivek Ramoswami joins me after the break here at the bottom of the
hour in just a few minutes. But we're talking to Steve Day. Steve, do you think that the Democrats
did the indictments and all of this stuff to help Donald Trump win the primary?
or is this something that's backfiring on them?
Yes.
I do.
I absolutely think that they believe they did this in 2016.
He got 60 times more coverage than any other candidate
because they thought he was a clown and they could beat him.
And then it blew up in their faces.
And I think that is what enraged them against him all the more.
I think the same thing.
They have a formula for how to brand him,
particularly the suburban voters.
It has worked in every election cycle since.
I do think that's the case.
And yes, I also think it's backfiring on them
because they're, you know, they're basically like the mob outside Lott's House, Glenn.
They can't contain themselves.
And so Jack Smith had this well-thought-out plan.
And then all of a sudden the state of Colorado says,
we're going to jump in line and disqualifying from the ballot now before you can hatch your plan.
And they all you can, there's two things in American politics, Glenn, you can always count on.
Republican gutlessness and Democrats absolutely exceeding their mandate and creating blowback against themselves as a result.
Those are the two constants.
All right, Steve, thank you so much.
we'll talk to you again hopefully tomorrow
and blessings on the people of Iowa
stay safe tonight
but please if you can go out in caucus
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Iowa is one of the states
I think New Hampshire is as well that really
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and Iowa your chance to be heard
is today
Go out and caucus tonight.
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By the way, we're going to talk to Vivek
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There is a story that came out from
NBC this weekend,
and it is really disturbing.
Tell me when Vivek
is on. You have
him?
Okay.
This story is about how the
Democrats have all of these
groups now meeting, finding
ways to thwart
Donald Trump from being president.
And they are saying that he's going to, now listen to this carefully.
If he becomes president, he will use the military in dictatorial ways.
So in other words, he will purge the military of anybody that voted for Biden.
Now, that's exactly what Biden did with MAGA supporters.
Remember that?
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and then purged all of the people that were conservatives.
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Well, he's done that as well.
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And that is quoting them, he's not beyond assassinating his political
enemies. That is disturbing that they would say that about Donald Trump, especially when they've done
everything else on this list. We have Vivek Ramoswamy on with us now from Iowa. Hey, Vivek,
how are you? Glenn, how you doing? I'm good. I have to ask you about the thing from Donald
Trump this weekend. He said, Vivek started his campaign as a great supporter. Unfortunately, now he
He's disguising his support in the form of deceitful campaign tricks.
Don't get duped by this.
Vote for Trump.
Don't waste your vote.
How do you feel about that?
Yeah, I think he had a kinder post this morning that he put up as well.
I mean, look, I think there's a couple things going on here, Glenn, just to speak a few hard truths.
One is anybody who's on the ground here in Iowa is seeing a very late surge here for me.
Many of the people who were expected to endorse Trump, very strong America First Patriots, like,
Steve King, who I think was wrongly denigrated by the media.
He was widely expected to endorse Trump.
He actually came out in strong and full-throated support of me
because of a couple of the positions I've taken here in Iowa
for Iowans against eminent domain against the climate change cult
in a carbon capture pipeline here in the state.
So anyway, I think there's a lot of momentum here in my direction.
So I think that that's one big factor.
I think another factor, though, is in this whole race, Glenn,
I don't care if it's left or right or to our own movement or outward.
I'm going to speak the hard truth.
And there's one hard truth that is staring us in the face, and it hurts to hear it.
But it's the truth.
I have stood against these persecutions against Trump more strongly than anybody else.
I filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court last week pushing back against the Colorado decision.
And Glenn, I'm going to be really honest with you.
The reason I filed that amicus brief is I don't have the confidence that Trump's team was going to make all of the correct legal arguments that needed to be made because it needs to be the right thing for the country, which is why I do.
did it. So I pushed back at every step, but we have to be realistic for this country and open our eyes
that there's a plot and it's hiding in plain sight. They want to narrow this down to a two-horse
race between Trump and a puppet who they can control, as you were just alluding to, one way or
another, eliminate Trump from contention and it is disgusting, but then they can trot their puppet
into the White House. And we owe it to this country to make sure that it doesn't happen. And so
some people would say, why are you in this race? It's because I have a responsibility to the
country to make sure that does not happen. We have to open our eyes. Last time it was a man-made
pandemic and a rigged election, this time they're going to stop at nothing. And I increasingly
worried, Glenn, it means nothing. And so I'm worried for the future of this country. I'm worried
for Trump. I'm worried for this year. I think we're skating on thin ice as a country and we
cannot fall for the trap that's been laid for us. And yes, the truth hurts sometimes. But the
first step to actually solving it is to see the truth and speak it without hiding from it.
You know, the Democrats always tip their hand because whatever they accuse the right of, they're doing.
Oh, yeah.
And it disturbs me because this is the first time I've heard from a credible source, you know, credible in quotation marks, like NBC News, where they are actually saying that Donald Trump could assassinate his political enemies.
Don't put it past him.
What does that tell you, Glenn?
It tells me that they are willing to do.
think about it. Well, you have to skate to where the puck is going, people, and none of us is God.
Well, none of us is immortal. None of us is beyond. I mean, you know what? I do think we're in the
middle of a deeper war in this country. And I think it goes even beyond just this realm. I think that
there's a form of spiritual warfare in this country right now. And I think that it is something
that we have to open our eyes to as a reality that this system is corrupt, and they will
stop at nothing. And you look at the electoral tactics they were trying to use in the law.
lawsuits and now forget the judicial system, just remove him from the ballot because somebody says on a whim in the state of Maine that we're removing him, they are selling us the rope today that they will use to hang us tomorrow. They want this to be a two-horse race. They want to eliminate Trump, and they want to trot a puppet who they can control into the White House. And I can't be controlled, Glenn. And so I'm actually going to be the one who's able to make sure that that doesn't happen if I'm able to do my responsibility to this country by being in this race and seeing it through to the
very end. And so I think that our movement, sometimes the truth hurts, but we owe it to this country.
We owe it to our founding fathers. Our America First Movement did not start in 2016. It started in 1776.
And so I know some of the hard Trump supporters, and heck, I was one of them, right? And I am in spirit
of what it represents still part of that and support Donald Trump against these unjust persecutions.
but we owe it to this country to make sure we don't look back a year from now.
Here's a way to look at this, Glenn, all the people who will say,
well, you're taking votes away from Trump, and so why are you in this race?
I want you to fast forward to a year from now.
And a year from now, let's say things play out exactly the way that I've said it.
They then trot in a puppet into the White House so they can control.
Do you want to look back a year from now, and are we going to say,
oh, we were shocked that that happened?
We didn't see that coming?
Or are we going to say, what the heck were we thinking when we fell right into that
trap and we have a puppet in the White House rather than an America first patriot.
So do not fall for that trap.
That's what I'm saying.
You're not talking about Nikki Haley.
You're talking about a Democratic puppet.
I'm talking about whatever puppet is they can control.
And I think Nikki Haley is looking like the next one they're trying for in the Republican
Party, Glenn.
And if they fail with that, then it's going to be the next puppet who's Gavin Newsom or whoever
else.
But the system is agnostic.
The deep state, I think, is agnostic to whether they are or the D comes after your
name. It's whether you advance the consistent permanent war agenda and the surveillance state
agenda here at home. Nicky Halley said she wants driver's license tied to every social media
account and internet account. I don't know if that's coming from Jack Smith or Joe Biden or
Nikki Haley, but they want Donald Trump and a puppet who they can control, eliminate Trump,
and trot in their puppet. That's the game. And we cannot fall for it. So you just said you're
going all the way to the end. If you finish fourth in the next three,
let's just say.
You won't drop out.
Are you staying into the end?
That's not what's going to happen, Glenn, first of all.
I think we're going to shock the world at the Iowa caucus tonight.
And anybody who isn't on the ground here, I think has their head in the sand.
I think people who are here on the ground are seeing a late surge.
The polls are dead wrong.
You see the likes of Steve Holt or Steve King, some of the strongest constitutional conservatives in the state,
switching their endorsement, some of them.
Others, surprise endorsing me at the late cycles in the last 72 hours.
And so I think we're going to deliver a major shock tonight.
But I think there's something deeper going on.
It's not about Trump.
It's not about me.
It's about this country, Glenn.
Yeah.
And I do think that there is a plan hiding in plain sight.
And if we have our eyes closed to it, shame on us.
Last time it was a man-made pandemic and a rigged election, as I said.
So fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice.
Shame on me.
And the plot is hiding in plain sight.
It's up to us to open our eyes and to see it.
And we deserve and require an America first.
patriot in the White House rather than a puppet for the permanent state, which is what we're going to get
otherwise. Why should somebody vote over Trump? Because your support is Trump's support. I mean,
he asked me last week who he should pick his vice president, should he win the vote here,
the nomination. And I said, Vivek, I said, he's a lot like you. He's a fighter. He can make great
cases for the American people, et cetera, et cetera. And I think he's a young up-and-comer that would
make a good president at some point. Let me say a word about that one, Glenn, actually, is,
you know what, I've been, I haven't really given that a lot of thought until a million people
asked me that. And so I actually have given it some thought. And here's the answer to that
question is that would need to be a discussion with Trump, where I would say, listen, I want
you to make sure we're on the same page. I don't want to build a new building for the FBI.
I want to shut it down.
I don't want to have crony subsidies to carbon capture pipelines.
I want to end them.
I want to shut down many of these agencies.
I actually do think we need accountability in our own Republican Party
that we shouldn't support the likes of Ron and McDaniel sitting in that seat,
that we should on day one actually part in every peaceful January 6th protester
and see that through.
Admit that there were some mistakes made in the past
and we're going to correct for them with the vaccines
and make sure that vaccine liabilities for,
companies that we don't get a special shield from being sued. And I'd want to make sure we're on the
same page about those things. Right now, I don't know if we are. I'm the only one who's taken a lot of
those positions. But the way I'm looking at it, Glenn, is right now in this race, if I have that
long list to say that in order to be vice president, I'd need an agreement from Donald Trump
that he agrees with me and is committed to seeing each of those things through all the way through,
yes, shutting down the FBI, not building a new building or reforming it. And if so, then you know what?
I would honestly consider it.
But right now, given that that list is long, here's how I'm doing it is.
At a certain point, the list is long enough that you say the best way I can do this is actually about being the next president,
leading from the front and taking Donald Trump as my advisor to do the right thing for this country, which I will do if I'm the president.
I've only got about 90 seconds.
What is your plan for the border?
My plan for the border is use our military to seal it.
We've got 40,000 troops in places like Germany where they don't advance our interest.
Germany isn't paying for its own national self-defense. They can move those troops to our own border,
end federal funding for sanctuary cities. And I go further, end birthright citizenship for the kids of
illegals that ends the incentives to come here for an anchor baby. And anybody who's in this country
illegally must be returned to their country of origin. And the way we do it is use the law.
The existing laws allow you to leverage local law enforcement to serve the warrants. That's a million
local law enforcement. No president has done it, but the existing laws allow for it. And so I do think
it takes a president, Glenn, and this goes to the question about Trump and myself, takes a president
from the outside who has sharp elbows and can break things. And Trump brings that, and I think I bring that
on steroids. But I also think it's going to take a president who knows and deeply understands personally
the law and the constitution of this country. So we're not going to be duped by that same swamp class
of advisors. And so that's why I'm in this. And I'm going to see this through to the very
and I believe I have a duty to this country to see this through.
And either way, it has to be an America first patriot in that White House.
Well, good luck tonight, Vivek.
Appreciate it.
Thank you so much for being on.
God bless.
Thanks a lot, Glenn.
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Welcome to the program.
We have somebody on who worked in intelligence and national security over in England
and just attended a kind of a, I don't know, a weekend,
what do you call them, Stu?
You know, some weekend thing where you go and you get new ideas and new training.
Symposium?
Thank you. Symposium.
And in that, she found that they weren't really as in line with the English people, perhaps,
even Americans and freedom and an actual representative republic.
The end of the article that she wrote last week said that the lecturer said,
to what extent should Joe Rogan and Douglas Murray be suppressed?
I mean, they have millions of followers, so if we de-platform them, it would cause issues.
So society needs to find other ways to suppress them.
Now, they were talking to these intelligence groups that are outside of the government.
So basically giving them instruction, you need to find a way to suppress their voices.
That is incredibly terrifying.
She's going to be on with us here in just a second.
Also, Davos starts today.
And these are just horrible people, I think.
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this coming up and this week, all this week as Davos goes on.
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I have said that I think this is the year that America decides
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Well, Anna Stanley, she's a former civil servant from the UK,
the foreign office there.
she went and attended a course at King's College called Issues Encountering Terrorism.
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So I read an article by Anna Stanley last week, and it was hair-raising.
I sent it to all of my relatives, and I said, and so it begins.
She attended a King's College course called Issues Encountering Terrorism.
It was organized by the Center for Defense Studies, designed for civil servants and professionals,
encounter terrorism.
Staff from the Foreign Office of the UK, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Defense, Home Office,
And it was all a three-day course with lecturers from King's College, visiting senior research fellows, professors.
And they included those who held former positions such as permanent secretary of the home office, director of GCHQ, defense minister, and foreign office director.
So this is not some fringy thing.
This is involving some of the greater minds and the known names.
in England. Anna is here to tell us what she experienced. Hi, Anna. Hi, Glenn. Thank you so much.
Have me on your show. Oh, you bet. I found your article terrifying, really terrifying. Tell me what you,
tell me what you experienced. I mean, yeah, you introduced it. It was a course for civil servants,
so that is staff enacting the will of the UK government. Only the lecturers were espousing
views which were very contrary to that
which the government's trying to perpetuate at the moment
in the realm of counterterrorism.
There was one point where the lecturer actually went against
the latest government commissioned review of prevent
and he actually derogatively characterised
William Shawcloth who wrote the review of Prevent
as saying all counter-terrorist professionals of woke
he is of that ilk he said.
So wait, wait, wait, wait.
What is, first of all, what is prevent?
Can you explain that?
Yeah, sorry, I should have done.
So in the UK, prevent is the UK's counterterrorism strategy.
It looks at radicalisation in the UK and how to tackle it.
And it's the policy that all counterterrorism professionals follow.
And there was recently a review, but it gets reviewed every few years.
And it basically obviously gets reviewed for how effective it's being.
And there's been a massive movement.
over the last few years, or an attempt movement, I should say rather, to put ideology at the
center of counterterrorism.
This is something Shawcross is arguing, because basically previously, people who committed
terrorism, they were seen as almost victims.
It was seen as a safeguarding issue in the UK.
You know, they would acknowledge maybe these people have been victims of crime or linked to crime
or they've been in domestic abuse relationship.
There was a real lack of giving them responsibility,
but also placing ideology as a major motivating factor.
And one of the lecturers really went against that recommendation of the Shaw Cross Review.
There's, yeah, many other parts of the course, which were keeping concerning.
So what I got from you and other sources is, and we can see it happening,
is a softening of people of calling out terrorists who might happen to be Islamic extremists
and instead pinning extremism on the regular Joe on the streets of England
and saying that those who believe in England and freedom and everything else,
that those might be the terrorists.
I mean, I couldn't agree more.
And in my article, I basically referenced that one of the civil servant attendees basically professed that her brother had actually been radicalized and fought for the Islamic State in Syria, which I think is quite a dramatic revelation.
Later on, we were shown a video which was actually a jihadi from London.
And it was an advertisement to recruit people into Syria to fight for jihad.
And she also recognized him too.
He went to my school, she said.
And this same person, she was also a civil servant.
We were all given a presentation to do as part of the course.
And hers was basically undermining prevent and saying that it's inherently racist because it focuses on Islamist extremism.
And it makes Muslims feel uncomfortable.
And you're exactly right.
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I was so.
shot, especially the revelation about the brother.
I mean, I was really looking around the room like, what?
Did she just say that?
And it was bizarre.
People really just didn't think you think it was a big deal.
But you're so right about this, the priority is just being completely skewed.
And I don't know.
And the facts do point out that 70% of terrorist attacks in the UK are Islamist, correct?
Is that a solid number?
Yeah, exactly.
I did actually say that to the room.
I basically use the comparison of people who smoke
and said that around 70% of lung cancers are caused by smoking.
So you would expect it would be really counterproductive
not to discuss that just to not cause a sense to smokers, right?
So in that same logic, it would be very bizarre
not to discuss Islamist extremism
just because there are Muslims who would find that uncomfortable.
Right.
smokers would find cancer uncomfortable if you kept pointing it out too um the uh the overall
um is this is this coming from uh a uh political correctness is this coming from an anti jew is this
coming where where did this start and what's the purpose behind it do you think
It's one of those things that's hard to answer because I think it's so many things.
It's not just one thing, you know.
I think ultimately identity politics, the kind of worldview that puts power,
views everything through the lens of power.
Unfortunately, Jews often come out bottom there.
Well, they come out the top in the sense they're viewed at the top of the social hierarchy.
They're seen as possessing white privilege.
And also identity politics breeds the kind of things that said one of the slides read.
condemning terrorism is to endorse the power of the strong over the week,
and terrorism is not the problem,
rather the systems they oppose the terrorists.
These are ideas which people often wrongly but do apply to Israel
because they view Palestinians as being unequal in kind of asymmetric warfare.
So they're really quite sinister stuff,
and even though I think people usually aren't overtly explicitly anti-semestic,
the types of identity politics that they end up,
up-consuming, often ends affecting Jews and Israel too as a consequence.
I read a story about Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker of the UK House of Commons.
And there was a diary note from his office that said he was going to meet with the Palestinian
ambassador to Britain last week and that as part of a speaker-led diplomacy, we will be flying
the Palestinian flag in honor of the Palestinian ambassador.
But the problem is there is no Palestinian ambassador.
Well, there's no state being ambassador of.
Right.
There's no state.
So what is happening?
Exactly.
It's hard to say.
I mean, you know, I know that America and the UK and in Europe, they're all experiencing
mass extremism on the street, people coming out protesting in the name of pro-Pathes.
Palestine, but actually they're deeply anti-Semitic and anti-Iswell.
But more importantly, perhaps for your show, they're not just anti-Semitic and anti-Israel.
They really are anti-Western.
They're anti-American ideals that I know you hold dearly.
And that is often at the crux of it lying underneath, I think, influencing these people,
whether they're aware of it or not.
But I think actually, yeah, people are aware of it more than people good than credit for.
So we just had a whistleblower.
here in the United States testify in front of Congress that we have the American Pentagon
and our intelligence agencies along with the British military intelligence, working together
with five eyes, to spy on the American people and the Western people, to find those that are
radical and then suppress them as much as possible, discredit, even use banking as a way to
separate them from society and if they have strong voices to shut it down.
That I was talking about last week.
And then I read your story to where one of the, one of the lecturers said, to what extent
should Joe Rogan and Douglas Murray be suppressed?
they have millions of followers to de-platform them, de-platform them, would cause issues.
So society needs to find other ways to suppress them.
What did they mean by that?
I got back when I heard that.
I only hope that he was speaking very freely and ad-lid,
and he by no means intended those words to be as sinister as they found.
I think he was really just revealing the types of,
sensorial views and inclinations that a lot of people have within academia.
And of course he was talking to a room full of civil servants as well.
And you're right, there is a trend towards suppression of what is deemed as radical voices.
I reference Douglas Murray.
I'm a massive fan of his and his writing.
But yeah, he's considered far right by this lecturer in counterterror.
And, yeah, example, also Nigel Farage, I believe his bank account was closed down because of his views as well, which is a deeply disturbing precedent to be set.
Where do the English people stand on this?
I mean, it seems as though as I watch Europe and even the acts of Brexit and what's happening here, each country is.
being told it's just a few of these crazy whatever you know farmers or you know radical farmers or
radical conservatives here in america whatever it is but it seems to me the same message is coming
from the people and that is i i'd like my country back i'd like my rights back i'm tired of the elites
telling us exactly what to do because you're screwing it up
as elites, we don't want any of this stuff. Is that the feeling in England?
Yeah, I think it really depends who you talk to. I think in England, a phrase that gets
banded around a lot is the silent majority. And it seems that we do have a kind of silent
majority in the UK who are saying exactly the kind of thing you just said. But in the civil
service, very much in academia, it's very unpopular to talk about things like freedom of
speech, freedom of expression and talk about examples in society where they're coming under
threat. It's really considered something that the right in averted commas do. I know you're speaking
from America and, you know, people say right wing there more casually. You really would
never hear someone describing themselves as that in the UK, you know, the types of things that
advocates on the right in America are arguing for freedom of expression and free speech. It's really, yeah,
It's really unpopular to do that in the UK in the civil service and academia.
And unfortunately, these are the institutions which influence policy.
The force that I went on, you know, how do I put it?
It is deeply concerning because ultimately these are people who are making policy
that will eventually potentially be the difference between life and death.
So, yeah, it's vitally important.
And that's why I hope to shed a light on it and what I experience there.
Anna, I think you're very brave.
And I thank you for your voice and anything we can do to help amplify it.
Because it's not just happening in America or England.
This is a threat to all of the Western world and the freedom.
You know, the freedom just to be able to decide your own way in life
and not have it dictated by people in high office that, you know,
we're all becoming serfs again.
and that needs to stop.
So Anna, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for calling.
Bye-bye.
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We're watching a show.
And it's well planned out.
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I want to go through a couple of things.
The Iowa caucus is happening tonight, and what is it that we are facing?
What is it that we are really fighting for?
Well, let me show you.
This is a picture of a poster in San Francisco calling on residents to boycott Jewish-owned businesses in the city.
Is that reminiscent of anything?
I just want to throw that out there.
There has been a society that has issued posters like this before.
Was that a good thing or a bad thing?
Then you have, let's go cut three, the Antifa flag at a pro-Palestinian rally.
Oh, what do they have in common?
Chaos.
Then you also have the White House gates almost being pulled down.
yesterday in another pro-Palestinian event.
Nobody's saying anything about that, quote, insurrection.
And as if we couldn't see the country more different,
here's a Democrat talking about the next election cut four.
So much of what Dr. King fought for, this idea that every single person,
no matter who they are, who they look like where they're from,
could participate in their democracy, that's on the line.
and tomorrow marks the beginning of a critical election where I don't think I'm being hyperbolic by saying this next election is about whether or not we can have elections in this country as we know it.
Wow.
I tend to agree with you, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
First of all, no one is talking about, I mean, he's quoting Martin Luther King.
We're the ones who agree with Martin Luther King.
the progressive Democrat does not agree with Martin Luther King.
Have you listened lately?
How do we survive?
How do we ever come back together with our views the polar opposite of each other?
It's not like one side believes that there's a coup going on and the other side doesn't.
Both sides think there's a coup going on.
and we I mean we have pretty good evidence in one side
but I guess you don't need evidence on the other side
maybe they think they have it but I don't see it
it's it's nuts and then 69% of the people
that say we shouldn't vote for a Republican
here's what they say about Joe Biden cut six
you have the question of the president's age I mean it's just there
and poll after poll not just ours our poll in fact
said 28%, just 28% think that President Biden has the mental sharpness to effectively serve
for another term.
That means 69, darn near 70% of the American people say he's not mentally fit for office.
70%.
But they'll do anything they can to shut down Donald Trump.
And now we find out the truth on Fannie Willis.
She is the Georgia DA.
She brought the charges against Trump for election interference.
She went to church, which to me sounds an awful lot like Christian nationalism.
She went to her church, Big Bethel, is that what it is?
Or Bethel AMC Church in Atlanta.
She was talking about how she is being persecuted.
Now, we find out last week that she's been having an affirmative.
affair. That's fine. That's her business. However, she's been having an affair and then what?
Then after the affair, she hires the guy that she's having the affair with and then pays him all
kinds of money, almost $600 or $700,000 to forward an investigation. She can't do that
without permission from the board. She never got that permission, nor did she ask for it.
here's what she says is really going on listen to this we are at a time in history when you can no longer sit back
and just let other folks do you cannot expect black women to be perfect and save the world the lord is completing us
we are not perfect we need your prayers we need to be allowed to stumble we need to
grace with that kind of support we will move mountains and do Jesus as well
flawed hard-headed and imperfect child has a message for each of you today please
find a way to do your extraordinary God-given assignment and make this
community and the world a better place for all of it is never about it is always
about the great I am
damage but we are
qualified upon his cause
if you simply commit yourself
to be obedient
and steadfast in your efforts
and his work
if you commit yourself
God will turn your hard-headed self
into the extraordinary for his kingdom
thank you
so we got that goal
for us. I think she was clear talking about God as an adulteress who's still not divorced from her husband.
I think that's who my church would have, you know, give up and lecture me about, you know, different
things. Well, Glenn, you know, we can't expect black women to be perfect. And that's all,
that's what we were doing. And we weren't judging her on her individual actions. We were coming up
with an idea that we needed black women to all be perfect and give them no grace. So she's really
hitting a powerful point there, which is just so incredible. You know, I don't think anyone
expected her to be perfect. I think maybe the very, I mean, I don't know what her husband was
expecting. My guess is not what he got. But, I mean, it might be one of these situations where,
you know, you expect, you know, kind of very little out of public figures these days. I don't
think our expectations were set too high. Maybe don't, you know, persecute your political
enemies. That might be one thing we might request from her. I think that would be nice.
And then there's a situation. If somebody put this on Twitter, I can't remember who it was,
but the idea that one of the reasons why these people are like that are leading the resistance
are held to these standards they feel are too high is because the media turns them into
these superheroes, right? The second they come out and they're like, well, you know, I think I'm going
to charge Donald Trump with this. They get these glowing profiles in every piece of mainstream media.
where they are set up as the ultimate savior of the universe,
these people who are doing so much for so many.
And in reality, like, they get excited to be these resistance heroes,
and then they forget to, you know, like, delete their old tweets.
Yes.
Or, you know, forget that, like, once they're under the microscope,
all of the things they've done that have been problems in their life
are going to wind up coming out.
And it's why you say this all the time.
If you're going to get into this stuff,
you better clean your life up before you do it.
Well, but the left doesn't understand that
because the left usually isn't held responsible for anything.
And that is what honestly makes the left very intellectually weak.
They're not pushed against the wall on their thoughts or ideas.
You know,
you push somebody who is progressive on their ideas and say,
this has never worked in all of human history.
And it's been tried, tried, and tried again.
And it always fails.
And their response will be, well, it hasn't been done right.
Well, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
And then they just start shouting things about you or at you.
And that's, you know, one of the real problems of debate.
You can't really have a debate with people that just want to shut you down if they,
if you disagree with them.
We're looking at the Iowa caucus today, and this is the kind of stuff that we are fighting.
We're fighting corruption.
We're fighting ideology.
We're fighting overspending.
We're fighting for our lives, really.
Honestly, this is the election that we won't survive another Biden term.
We just won't.
And we're being dismantled from.
the inside out and ask yourself who really is dismantling who's really causing the damage we've put up
with so much that has caused so much damage just the erasing of our history teaching our youth that there
is a hundred different genders there is no such thing as truth that uh white people are racist
and always will be you know our founders were monsters
All of this stuff has just taken us apart.
It must be restored or we are not going to survive.
Now, who's best to do that?
That's up to you tonight in Iowa.
Yeah, it is.
And it's an interesting, you know, one thing I always say about polling.
And it's important to remember this is that polling does not give you specifics.
Polling gives you generalities.
And if you think about polling as a, as a vehicle to get you to the general tone of what's going on,
it's pretty effective.
If you obsess about someone having a two-point lead
and then when that doesn't happen,
you say, oh, well, the poll was wrong and flawed,
you're not getting anything out of this.
So if you kind of look at polls as generalities,
you can really get some general themes here.
And if you look at the polling that has led up to Iowa,
you see Trump with a big lead.
You see Haley and DeSantis close for a second,
Ramoswamy behind that,
and Aza Hutchinson is still in the race for whatever reason,
right around 1%.
Like, you know, if Asa Hutchinson,
wins the Iowa caucus tonight, Glenn.
I think we can really say there's a real problem with the polling.
Yes.
And the way it's working.
Yes.
If, you know, if Ron DeSantis beats Nikki Haley, the average poll has him down four
points between Haley and DeSantis right now.
If Haley loses to DeSantis, and I would not be at all surprised by that, I would not
classify that as a massive polling failure.
There are two close candidates that are near each other.
You've got weather.
You've got turnout.
There's a bunch of different things.
that need to be factored into that.
If Donald Trump wins by five tonight,
I mean, it's a big polling miss, right?
I mean, if you look at poll after poll after poll,
Donald Trump is up by, you know,
give or take around 30 points.
You can find some that are a little bit more than that.
You can find some that are a little bit less.
The final real clear politics average,
which is something that people will look at,
especially historically looking back at how the polling worked
in this particular cycle,
has Donald Trump at 52.
98%, Nikki Haley, 19.2%, DeSantis at 15.4, the Vake Ramoswami, 6.8, and Asa Hutchinson at 1.
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All right.
So let's get the predictions out.
I'm not as good at political prediction.
So let me go first.
My prediction is that Trump will be,
the winner tonight. Then DeSantis and Nikki Haley, I think because of the weather, her support is
weak. And then Ramoswami, who I think is going to do better than has been polled. Now, this is a
caveat. I actually believe Asa Hutchinson will come in first. If Asa is the only one that could get to
the caucus. Right. You've been saying you've been using that asterisk the entire time we've
been talking about this. Yeah. So don't forget that asterix. That is important. Now, Glenn,
as a person who's occasionally wagered on some sporting events, there is a concept when you look at
this and you think to yourself, is there a stayaway game here? Like, you know, there's some games
you have a real strong vibe on. You're going to put some money down. You believe in it. There are
some we were like, honestly, like, I can come up with a bet, but this is one that I should probably
just stay away. I don't really have a strong feeling on this game. This one falls into that category
at some level, other than Trump winning, which I'm pretty sure will occur tonight. We'll see.
But the second to third place battle is interesting. I mean, if it was 62 degrees out right now,
you could make a case that even despite the fact that Haley has weak support and unenthusiastic support.
She's starting to surge.
Yeah, like usually polling momentum in Iowa does mean something.
We've seen that with lots of different candidates, Santorum, Huckabee, even Ted Cruz in 2016,
where a rise in the poll late sometimes continues after the polling stops and turns into something.
I don't know if that applies to Haley here.
And honestly, with the weather the way it is, I don't think it will apply.
My guess is, if I had to place this bet, I would agree with your order of candidates.
there. I think DeSantis will probably do a little bit better than his polling. I think Haley
might do a little bit worse. Ramoswami may be a little bit stronger. I think he has
endeared himself a little bit over the past week or two where he's showed up to all these
events in the snow and there's something to that. But again, you look at the end of the story
and Donald Trump is going to win by probably 20 to 30 points. And that's going to be, you know,
if he's not over 50, it'll look like a disappointment, which shows his relative strength in the race.
Yeah, I think, you know, he wins by 15 to 20 points.
20 for sure, it's fine.
If this is close, if it's under 10, that's a different story.
But I don't see that happening.
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