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Episode Date: October 3, 2025The story of former Des Moines Public Schools Superintendent Ian Roberts, an illegal alien arrested by ICE in Iowa, is even more insane than we thought! Glenn and Stu review the craziness and ask: How... did this guy even get this job?! Glenn reviews the latest episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast," featuring social psychologist and “The Anxious Generation” author Jonathan Haidt, which he believes every parent should listen to before letting their kids on social media. President Biden turned inadmissible illegal aliens into beneficiaries of our tax dollars overnight. Can Trump undo that using the government shutdown? Glenn reviews some good news stories amid all the chaos. Dave Chappelle’s comments about Charlie Kirk and free speech at the Riyadh Comedy Festival have caused controversy. Comedian Bridget Phetasy joins to discuss. BlazeTV host Liz Wheeler joins to comment on the pope’s recent blessing of a block of ice during a climate change event. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Great. Glenn, how are you?
I am really good. It's, you know, it's Friday. I thought we'd go over some of the big stories of the week. And one of them that we really haven't had a chance to address this week is Ian Andre Roberts. He is, at the beginning of the week, he is that poor guy that ICE is just going in. Here he is the superintendent of schools for Des Moines Public Schools. He is well known. He is well qualified. He's an upstanding member of our community. And ICE just comes in.
guns ablazing wearing masks no indication of even who they are and they just take him yeah yeah
i've read that i i love you know a sleepy city is moved to protest for a beloved superintendent
detained by ice dozens that was that one of the headlines that was one of those NBC news headline
oh my god several dozen students gathered at the state capital calling for his release holding signs
reading radical empathy, a tagline he frequently used.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
During rush hour, people displayed a banner from a bridge over the interstate, reading
free Dr. Roberts, dozens of cars honked.
And, you know, when cars honk, you know what's a real cause.
No, no, no, no.
That's showing your support.
I'm willing to honk.
That was the main thing that happened in Nazi Germany.
Germany. When the SS would roll into town, there would be a bunch of people honking in protest. And that's how you knew. They were Nazis. There was a walkout of students. And then you had Jackie Norris, who was a former Michelle Obama aide. She's kind of in the middle of this. She says, you know, she wants to, it's fitting to take a page out of Dr. Roberts' book and ask the community to engage in radical empathy. They kept saying this over and over again. As we
walk through the situation together.
We do not have all the facts.
During his time with our district,
he has shown up in ways big and small.
And that's definitely true.
That was true.
That was true.
First of all, I'm not sure he is a doctor.
I mean, I know now what we have found out during the week is he played doctor a lot in many ways,
you know, in the way you play doctor and the way that you just like, yeah, I graduate.
from MIT. I got my
doctorate here, here, and here.
I mean, listen to the guy,
let's see here, his credentials. First of all,
he got, he was at
Sloan School of Management from
MIT, got an MBA from
MIT. Then he
also attended Harvard and
Georgetown.
He got his doctorate degree from
Baltimore's Morgan State University.
And there was another
one, too, I believe.
that he went to the deal
he didn't go to any of those schools.
And it didn't have any of that.
He came over from Ghana
and was overstayed his visa,
was here illegally.
Under the Biden administration,
he was ordered to be deported.
Under the Biden administration.
That's kind of, that's a tough,
that's a,
I mean, that's a pretty high bar.
You have to cross to be deported.
by Joe Biden.
But he,
he wasn't because, you know,
they're well,
they're not just going to go out
and get this guy.
I mean,
and he was busy.
He had a lot of things
that he was working on.
A lot of them seemed to be women.
You know,
he was up,
he was up doing his DEI,
you know,
school board thing in Pennsylvania.
And apparently,
he was caught having sex
with a female coworker
on school,
property in his role as superintendent, who was being a bad girl.
The people up in Pennsylvania described him as a sketchy figure and a pathological liar.
And they felt that he had been hired there because of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Now, when he went to Des Moines, it's another DEI.
He became the DEI guy.
And, you know, people up in Pennsylvania said,
I'm not sure he's a legal resident.
And they ignored that because nobody wanted to see it.
Up in Pennsylvania, nobody wanted to see because of DEI.
Everybody was just like,
when he went to Des Moines, same thing.
he's a pathological liar. He just told this person that he's married and has three kids. This person
he told he has no kids and he's not married. I mean, he's a pathological liar. He would lie about
almost everything. But when they would bring it up, again, everybody in power would say,
how dare you? Racist. I can't believe. They ignored everything that they had said. Okay.
he hasn't been legally here since 2020.
He was arrested by ICE on September 26.
Why?
Well, because he knew he was going to be deported,
and he was found hiding in bushes.
Oh my gosh, how degrading for him.
How degrading for him?
Well, the school-owned vehicle that he was driving
contained a fixed blade hunting knife.
I'm not sure if he was a big hunter or not.
A loaded Glock 19 firearm and $3,000 in cash.
Now, how did this illegal get a Glock,
especially since he had already been arrested in 2020
for possessing an illegal firearm?
Did he not care about the law?
Still, did he not care about the law?
Is that what happened there?
Some people are saying that.
But in reality, we don't really know if it was an illegal firearm because since he was illegal, all firearms he would have would be illegal.
There's no path to my, unless you're, I guess, maybe in Gavin Newsom's California.
Is a legal firearm possessed by an illegal then because of the double negative?
I'm not a school superintendent.
I don't know.
Does it cancel it out?
And suddenly everything is legal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was one of those, you know, PBS Scholastic.
songs about that. I'm pretty sure.
The double negative cancels your crime out.
Yeah, I remember that song. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently, when he was up in Mill Creek, as the superintendent up in Pennsylvania,
you know, he was caught having sex, blah, blah, blah. The school district was, was inundated,
I'm quoting, inundated by lawsuits, forced to pay out over $400,000 in sex discrimination
settlements.
because he was promoting less qualified women
over more deserving men apparently
that's part of it
and you know the sex thing
where everybody was it was also a problem
they were in the process of negotiating
a $250,000 settlement
with Melody Ellington
because she apparently
was fired for constructive discharge
now that's
that sounds like something
That can't be real.
No, it sounds like something that you go see your doctor about.
I think I have some constructive discharge here.
Constructive discharge.
I didn't know what that was.
I had to look that one up.
It applies to, I'm quoting,
applies to situations when a resignation is involuntary.
Okay, resignation is involuntary.
That means you're being fired, I think.
when your resignation is involuntary due to a hostile or intolerable work environment.
Right.
Well, it could be like getting pressured into quitting, right?
I mean, I think the seeming accusation here is that he was trying to get rid of her for some other reason other than her job, which, again, we can, considering all the other accusations against him, we can guess what this revolved around.
But does constructive discharge sound like some sort of PC thing that doesn't tell you.
anything? Yes, it does. Yes. It just sounds like a bunch of nonsense. But if you think about it,
it's like, you know, you're getting rid of somebody for some reason that is, you know,
constructed, right? It's that what was the term you used the other day, the, the, the, the false
construct. The, and you were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't listen to anybody who is. Me being fired,
my, my resignation is a false construct. Right. Yeah. That it is. And by the way, that,
that particular settlement, which was a quarter of a million dollars, a lot of money.
I mean, you wouldn't want to hire someone who's in the middle of that.
That was being settled right at the time he was getting the job in Des Moines.
Like, it was in the middle of the settlement when he was like,
ah, I'm going to go to Des Moines and get a bigger city and get a bigger job.
So my question is, how did he get this job?
I mean, there is serious corruption in the vetting.
in Des Moines and quite honestly
Mill Creek. Now Mill Creek,
this is the one up in Pennsylvania,
Mill Creek said
they followed a vetting
and search process
by a recruitment firm
Ray and Associates.
And the recruitment company didn't
respond to the request for
information from, you know,
journalists like us. But
the school district said we received
all clearances, including an FBI
background check prior to Roberts, serving
his superintendent, no disqualifying events
were identified. Okay.
Well, that's weird because he had
charges against him,
you know, of a legal possession of a
firearm that you would think schools
would go, oh, that's a problem.
But here's the thing. Ray and Associates
and now this may mean nothing,
but
me thinks there's something
rotten in Minnesota.
This Ray and Associates
that did all the vetting on this guy
is from Minneapolis.
and it just could be my bias on what's happening in Minneapolis
and how Minneapolis is being run and how Minnesota is being run
so I don't know anything about Ray and Associates
but we will soon we will be looking into them
it's just this whole
system of corruption
how do you hire somebody like this
how do you clear somebody like this?
The people in,
in Des Moines,
he shouldn't be the only one that's gone here.
Who vetted him?
Who hired him?
Well, I love the story of our friend Jackie Norris
because, you know, if you remember,
former Michelle Obama aide was out there saying,
you know, we need to show radical empathy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then all this stuff comes out.
And you think, okay, she's got to be.
what in hiding. She's probably resigned.
Like there's this really embarrassing.
They knew.
Well, what is she actually doing right now?
She's running for U.S. Senate because of course she's running for U.S. Senate.
What better I hate to qualify you for a Senate run than this particular scandal.
None of this stuff matters to the left.
None of this matters to the left.
This is why you must be a merit-based society.
because if you're just going to say, well, DEI, he's, he's good at DEI, which apparently he wasn't
good at DEI, he's good at that. And you know what? We need a hire that has his, you know, he's,
he's an immigrant, he's black. He apparently is very, very sexy. He's got all these degrees.
Well, does he have all those degrees? I mean, does, I mean, pathological liar. You just hired him because
he's settling a lawsuit for sex discrimination and you still hire him.
What is it?
Because it doesn't matter.
The crime doesn't matter.
His past doesn't really matter.
Whether he went to these schools or not doesn't matter because he's going to help us on this,
the DEI thing.
Until America comes to a place to where they can recognize this is all a sham and you
actually have to have real standards based on real merit, this is going to continue to happen.
And until people like Michelle Obama's, what is her name and what state is she running for?
In Iowa.
Jackie Norris is her name.
And she's running for Senate in Iowa.
Iowa, you're going to get exactly what you deserve.
Unfortunately, so will the rest of us because she's running for U.S. Senate.
But you're going to get exactly what you deserve until you start saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
How did this happen?
Who hired this person and fire all of the people in?
involved in this and fire all the people. There were teachers. There were people on the school board.
Apparently they were all saying, hey, this is something's wrong here. We should check into this.
Those people should be elevated and the people who told them, uh, shut up and sit down.
Those people should be fired. That's what common sense Iowa people would have done when common sense actually existed.
Does it exist in Iowa anymore? We'll see back in just a second.
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You know, the guy Nicholas Rosk, remember his name at all,
he was the guy who tried to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh
and then was going to kill everybody else.
The judge is going to sentence him, okay,
and the feds are asking for a 30-year prison sentence,
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a Supreme Court justice. Does that make sense to everybody? Is that common sense to everybody?
Anybody listening to me right now? Do you think, no matter which side it is, the person should be
made example of, you should make it very, very clear you cannot attempt to kill a Supreme Court
justice, period. Right. Okay. I think we all agree on that. That's what the federal government is
telling the judge to do. But the family is coming out because now, what was his first name, Nicholas,
Nicholas is now Sophie. He decided when he got to prison or to jail and going through trial that
he is suddenly a she. And so now he's using female pronouns. And the family members are pleading,
pleading to just relinquish him to our care because, quote, Sophie needs therapy, relaxation, and the outdoors in order for him to ultimately thrive.
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placing Sophie in long-term incarceration would stunt her ability to thrive and severely impact her
overall life trajectory.
Huh, that's interesting.
You know what it would have stopped Brett Kavanaugh's overall life trajectory?
Your brother.
Now, this is from Olivia Ross, the gay sister of the attempted assassin.
Sophie needs a balanced life and appropriate support from loving people, not in
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Also, the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
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wherever you get your podcast tomorrow. But Jonathan Haidt is, I think, one of the,
is one of the most honest searchers for actual data points on what is,
happening in our society. He is a society scientist, behavioral scientist, social psychologist,
and he's been studying what's been happening to us. And he was on the, he was really a firm Democrat
back in the mid 2000s. It was not a fan of mine. And he started to study what's happening. Why are
people like Glenn Beck doing this? And so he decided to actually
watch and then listen to my show. Um, and he did. And then he started listening to others. And he said,
I broke through my understanding because of you, Glenn. He talks about this in this podcast. He said,
because of the language that you use. You said things differently than other people. And he said,
I understood, wait a minute, wait a minute. I think I'm wrong. I may not agree,
but this, this movement on the right is not what I think it is. Okay.
And he wrote after that, what was the name of that book that he wrote that was so good.
Do you remember, Stu?
Yes.
The righteous mind.
Yeah.
The righteous mind.
Right.
And he talks about how language is different and is separating us, but we might be saying many of the same things.
He's been studying all kinds of things, including for the last 10 years, he's really been focused on what's happening to our kids.
and he now has a huge body of evidence that it is social media and our phones.
And you can't give your kids a smartphone.
You can't.
I wish I had this information and all of the data to back it up.
You know, there are schools now that are banning smartphones, banning all phones, really,
all during school.
This has to be done.
You cannot give your kids a smartphone until at least 16 or 17.
years old. They can't be on social media. And we talked about the, where is all of this anxiety
coming from? Where is all of this coming from and the depression and everything else?
Can you, can you give me some of the facts? Listen to what he said. Our kids moved their social
lives onto social media platforms around 2012, 2013, and the results have been completely disastrous.
So I've been assembling the evidence for this because I'm arguing there's some other
psychologists say, no, there's no evidence of harm. No, it's just a correlation. Correlation doesn't
prove causation. And I'll just, just to tick down the evidence that social media is bad for our
kids, the first thing is that the kids themselves say that. When you survey high school kids and
college kids and kids in their young people in the 20s, they're not grateful for this. They say,
this was really bad for us, but I had to say, I couldn't quit because everyone else was on it.
We have testimony from the parents. Parents know their kids. They almost universally hate this
They don't see it helping their kids.
We have confessions from the perpetrators.
We have all kinds of documents, leaks,
reports that came out in lawsuits,
where we hear them talking about all the harm they're causing
and all the things they're doing to cause addiction.
These platforms are designed to grab our kids' attention
and never let go because if they let go,
it's going to go to their competitor.
There are correlational studies, there are experimental studies,
there are so many different studies that all point
to a degree of harm.
So I think now that the case is pretty much closed,
the argument that, oh, well, we just don't know,
we need to gather more information.
You know, that was a tobacco industry playbook decades ago.
And meta, you know, social media, especially meta,
they're literally copying the tobacco playbook.
I mean, a lot of people have written about this.
So I think this is, I was about to say evil,
but we've talked about that.
Yes, you know what?
It's an evil industry in the same way that you were talking about.
I don't look, the people who work there, I'm not saying are evil, except for maybe a couple of the leaders who know what they're doing.
But the company, the companies, especially TikTok meta and Snapchat, those three companies are harming children at an industrial scale.
We're not just talking like a few hundred kids. We're talking literally tens of millions are harmed and thousands are dead.
So I do think that this is having a very pernicious effect on society on children.
So, and I want to get into, you know, real world and virtual world.
and what it's doing to our kids.
But let me jump forward here for a second.
Have you thought about what does this mean for this generation in 30 years?
Oh, yes, I think a lot about that.
So here's the way to think about it.
Human development is really complicated and kids need a lot of experience in the world.
They need to make lots of mistakes and learn from them.
and then especially during puberty, during puberty is a time when the brain is changing very, very fast.
It's rewiring from the childhood adult form.
And so if in puberty kids are not out there having adventures and flirting and getting embarrassed and getting in arguments and over,
if they're not out there having real world experience, it's going to prevent the neurons from wiring up in a healthy adult way.
So we really have to look at at puberty, say roughly 10 or 11 through 16 is the most sensitive period of all.
And if kids are growing up online, you know, originally we thought, well, maybe it'll be great for them, you know, talking, checking in with 100 friends a day instead of just two or three, maybe that'll be good.
But it isn't.
It is, it's remarkable.
He wrote this book called The Anxious Mind.
I think he came out two, three years ago.
And it is fabulous.
It is, forget Dr. Spock and all that crap.
You're raising a kid.
This is the book you should be reading.
This has all of the facts, everything about social media, everything.
everything about our devices and our phones that you need to know.
And we have the time back in 2010.
We didn't have any reason.
It was just a grand experiment.
The experiment's been done.
We now see the results.
And do you like them?
Do you like them?
Our kids are so fragile.
They shatter at anything right now.
Look at what's happening with the shooters.
Look at what's happening with the with the trans Tifa.
if you will. Look at all of the results. I am convinced that we will have more and more shootings
from desperate, crazy people because they don't know how to deal with anything. They've never
been required to deal with anything. They've never had anything push up against them. In the real
world, it's all been this bogus world of virtual reality. And he makes,
makes a very strong case that this has got to stop. And he talks about regulation of the internet.
And I am not one for regulation, nor is he. But when it comes to our kids, our kids should not
have access to these things. They should not have access. It's as harmful as cigarettes, as he said.
It's as harmful as, you know, just binge drinking at 12 years old. It's not going to end well.
just not going to end well.
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Jonathan Haidt on anxiety and social media.
And we start with Charlie Kirk.
I took him to places he wasn't expecting to go,
but we had a really great conversation about what's happening in our society.
what is causing this how do we fix this and you know here's a guy who studies this for a living
and said if we don't if we don't wake up right now and start paying attention and start fixing
the things that need to be fixed and neither of us agree on politics and it's really i think a
very it's a tough conversation the first 20 minutes is kind of a tough conversation because
you want somebody on the other side to go yeah you're exactly right i see it the same
way. I don't see it his way. He doesn't see it my way. But we have a conversation on how did we get
there? How and what needs to happen? And I don't further the conversation with him because I didn't
want it to be just about this. But we model the kind of conversation that has to happen in all of our
homes with all of our families to be able to get there. And it's just a really healthy conversation.
Yeah, I can't wait to listen to this one.
And I think, too, it's really important for parents, particularly if you're in that age,
where you have kids that are going through between that 10 to 16 type of age, where if you think about how social media affects kids, right, we talk about it all the time with shootings, right?
We talk about it with all the really negative things, suicides and all these terrible things.
So often what happens is that, you know, people, kids get into these groups in social media.
they're influenced by these small, quirky, weird groups, strange beliefs, like people encouraging
them to hurt themselves, people telling them they're not good enough, they're, you know,
they're ugly, they're worthless, all of these things, and it encourages them to go down
these dark roads.
I would encourage parents who are in the middle of this situation in particular to, to listen
to this podcast, to read Jonathan Heights book, The Anxious Generation, to follow
Jonathan on social media because it's important for you to be immersed in a community that understands
the risks here. I think it's really easy when you're talking to your kids who you love and they're
telling you how much they need their phone. They need social media. They need all these things.
It's understandable to give in, right? It's really easy to give in. And for a long time, as you
point out, Glenn, you know, we didn't have the data. Your family became the data, right? Like,
That's, that's, you know, it is a...
I've seen the result.
Yeah, it's really, really hard.
But if you immerse yourself in this community with a lot of people, and there are
tons who really understand this data and believe that kids shouldn't have this, and you
start building a community around you with other parents that go to your school that also
are doing the same things, this stuff becomes a lot easier.
It's a lot more, it's a lot easier to understand and justify that you're not doing harm to
your kid by not giving them social media.
The exact opposite, you're protecting them.
You're protecting them from something you know is bad.
So it's really interesting because we knew that it wasn't a good idea,
but the school was demanding that everybody have devices at the time when we were going to school with our kids.
They had to have devices.
They had to have, you know, a smart tablet or whatever.
And it would be regulated.
Now, kids can get past all of that stuff.
Okay.
And we were told also that kids, you know, they've got to have, they got to have.
they got to have a smartphone with them.
They have to be able to, you know, do all this stuff.
No, they really don't.
They really don't.
And our kids, when we said, no, we don't want you to have it.
Mom and Dad, we are an absolute pariah.
Well, I don't really care.
And we held out for a little while, not long enough.
But we held out for a little while.
We gave them access.
They didn't have, you know, a computer of their own.
but we would give them occasionally my iPad or, you know, they would have the iPad after they got
into school. They had to have the school's iPad. And they were exposed to stuff that we didn't realize
you could access because we didn't really understand how bad it was early on. I'm talking 2010,
2011, 12, okay? We know now. We know. The entire world is at their fingertips.
They are exposed to some of the most vile, worse things possible.
And it changes them and it hardwires.
He talks about how boys are hardwired now with porn
and how they're going to be able to have sex in a normal, healthy relationship is, you know, beyond him.
Because all these things have now been hardwired into this generation.
if like Stu you're now just entering
the real puberty
and the real dangerous age where
everybody is getting on to social media and everything else
Stu's doing it the right way
because he has the information now
you're trying to I know you're not
yeah you're trying but I mean
you are you are ahead of where we were
because we didn't know what to do
we had never faced it right we had never
we didn't know what it was
we know now
We know now.
And it's so dangerous.
And Jonathan has all of it outlined in Anxious Mind.
If you are a parent and your kids are under 16, before you make any move on phones or social,
anything, read the anxious mind.
You must read it.
And before you do that, you should know the title.
It's the Anxious Generation.
Sorry.
It was the righteous mind.
Righteous mind.
Both of them are worth reading.
But it's the Anxious Generation on the phone stuff.
Yep.
And you can watch the podcast.
It's available now on Blaze and everywhere, wherever you get your podcast tomorrow.
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So America is shut down.
And, you know, I know.
I know. Plains are falling out of the sky. It's crazy. The lights in Washington are dark.
Eh, kind of. And it's not because we didn't run out of money. It's because we ran out of honesty.
We ran out of truth. So I want to give you a little truth on what is actually happening.
Why is the government shutdown? Who's responsible for it? And what does it all mean?
So at the heart of the shutdown is just the simple truth that the Democrats are demanding health care for millions of people.
who are in this country illegally.
That is the main sticking point.
People who under federal law should not be here.
I'm going to get into that because there's a little bit of nuance as always,
but I think you'll see right past that nuance.
Republicans have drawn a line in the sand and they say no.
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Now, these people who shouldn't have been here, they shouldn't be having health care.
Democrats say, oh, no, they should.
Let me explain.
For decades, immigration law has been very,
clear. If you cross illegally, you are to be detained and deported. Now, the law allows rare
exceptions, parole, but only on a case-by-case basis. And for urgent humanitarian reasons or a
significant public benefit. So, significant, urgent humanitarian reasons. How does this play into today?
well, here's what Biden did.
You knew that he was opening up the gates.
You might have even known that he was also flying people into our airports all across the country.
They didn't have to go through customs, immigration, nothing.
They just came in and said, I'm here as a refugee.
Okay, come on in.
When they did that, especially with four different kinds of,
countries. I'll get into that here in a second. They then mass paroled three million of them.
That's Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans. They flew those people in from their
countries into the center of our country and then said, okay, you're here as a refugee,
because you're from one of these countries, and we're giving you parole. That's not something
we've ever done before. Okay. It's not legal. It, we, we,
We granted them a ticket past the border, past the background checks, and straight directly into benefits.
Each month, up to 30,000 have been flown directly into our country and received a two-year parole.
That's not a loophole.
In my opinion, that is an abuse of power.
That's executive amnesty without Congress.
Now, here's what Biden knew that we never even talked about.
What he knew is once they were paroled, they become lawfully present on paper.
And that magic phrase means they can now access the federal health care programs.
These programs, as you can imagine, were meant for citizens, lawful immigrants, refugees,
those who come through the front door.
Biden turned inamissible aliens into benefit.
officiaries overnight. Why? This is, I'm going to give you my opinion here, but I'm going to,
I'm going to back it up. Was it compassion? Was it compassion because there are so many people fleeing,
you know, because they are somehow or another refugees and they just can't live because they're
under siege in their own countries? I don't know how you make that case with the number of people that
come across the border, but let me ask you, instead of making the case here, let me ask you to
look at what's happening all over the world. Because this is not just an American thing.
This is happening all over the world. It's not a Democrat versus Republican. This is a Western
civilization versus a New World Order problem. Canada, all of Europe, the UK, South Korea now,
all overwhelmed on their borders. May I?
I ask, where are all of these refugees coming from?
Where are all of the wars?
We didn't have this kind of a refugee issue during World War II, and half of the world
was in active war.
So how do we have this problem when there's not an active global war?
But for the minute, just for a minute, let's remain here in America.
What are the ramifications of this open border, or in this case, actually
flying non-citizens into our country directly, passing all border stops, and then having them go
directly into our system to gain benefits. Well, one of the ramifications is the cost. Between 2017 and
23, the government spent $27 billion on emergency Medicaid services for those ineligible because
of their immigration status. 18 billion of that was paid through your federal tax dollars.
the rest of it came from your state and local taxes.
Democrats now want to go further.
Let me back up.
What was the big beautiful bill about?
Remember how big and beautiful and important it was?
And everybody's like, we got a sign it, we got to sign it.
This is the one case where there was, you know,
all bills are jammed with stuff none of us really heard about until it's too late.
There's the one section of the big beautiful bill that I'm like, wait, I'm surprised by the,
Wow, that's really good.
And what it did is it ended health care for illegal aliens.
They knew what Biden was trying to do.
They knew that we had to change the law and end the health care status for illegals.
So when they passed that law, the big beautiful bill stopped all that.
Well, Democrats didn't like that.
And so what they're demanding on this, on this, the shutdown.
is that Congress repeals that part of the big beautiful bill.
Well, you just passed it.
Everybody voted for it.
You didn't vote for it, but it passed.
And now you want, as a negotiation, you want to repeal that?
How is that even possible?
That's one of the things that Donald Trump was elected to do.
The repeal would add another $1.5 trillion in spending.
so you know that's $12,000 per American household.
So you'll be on the hook for people who shouldn't have been here in the first place,
for their Medicaid, you'll be paying $12,000 per health care just this one time.
Remember, it's going to continue if it doesn't stop.
So let me ask you, is this shutdown from the Democrats?
that's what they want. They want that provision repealed.
When they say, we're fighting for health care, yet they're fighting to have that repealed.
$12,000 per household.
This one budget.
So is this really about government workers missing paychecks?
Is this really about Donald Trump?
Is this really about we're defending the average worker?
No.
I think it's more about Democrats taking more out of your paycheck to give your money to people
who are not citizens, have not paid income tax, people who should never have been here in the
first place. More importantly, what this is, what the Democrats did and want to continue,
is Cloward and Piven. The Cloward and Piven strategy, we talked about it years ago.
Cloward and Piven, they were two socialist, Marxist professors.
They came up with a way to collapse a system, and they did it in New York.
It's why, if you remember New York City back in the 70s, I think, went bankrupt.
It was Cloward and Piven that designed that.
They got everybody onto the dole.
And New York could not handle all of the promises that they had made if everybody is taking advantage of it.
And so they collapsed the economy of New York.
Put them out. That's what's happening not just here in America, but it's also happening globally.
This is a global power move. This is not about compassion. It's not about actual people on either side.
This is a power move globally. You flood the border, you jam the courts, you overload our hospitals, you stretch everything until it snaps.
then Americans cry out for relief
and the left's answer is always the same
more spending, more programs, more control for them
Donald Trump is saying with this
shutdown no no more
no more we're not going down
that road stop the spending on this
enforce the law send people home
Democrats say
fund migrant hotels
keep the Medicaid rolls open and pretend parole equals lawful entry. It doesn't. It's not about
compassion. It's not about children on the border. This is about whether America will survive as a
nation of laws or dissolve into some borderless welfare state because you can't give welfare to
everyone. You can't. Every family that is struggling to pay rent, every worker watching their taxes
climb, every citizen told to wait in line while Washington prioritizes those who cut the line,
this is a fight for you. This is the fight for you. We're not going to fund the lawlessness anymore.
We're not going to keep paying for the collapse of our borders. We're not going to allow the
cart to be stolen right out of the store. The question is, do we have the stomach? Will America
have the stomach? Will it wake up to what this shutdown is actually?
about will will they continue to fight Donald Trump instead of looking at the global picture
because it's happening in every country and that's what we have to tell our friends we have to be
like a like a clock striking every quarter hour saying hey this is a global thing it's not
about Donald Trump this isn't about the Democrats or Republican this is global takeover that's what
this is it's not about politics parties or even politicians it is truly about the survival
of the Western civilization. That's what this shutdown is really about. All right, back in just a second.
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station ID. So now seven in ten U.S. adults now say they have not very much confidence or
no confidence at all in the American press. That's remarkable. It's down now to 28% of the
American public trust the press. That's radio, television, newspapers. They don't trust it. Republicans
are down to 8% trust.
And I mean, you can't be surprised.
Older Americans trust it more than anybody else.
Over 65 expressed having faith in the media.
But here's what Gallup said at the end.
Fewer than three in 10 Americans now place trust in newspapers,
television, and radio to report the news fully, fairly, and accurately.
With confidence fractured among partisan and generational lines,
the challenge for news organizations is not only to deliver fair and accurate reporting,
but also regain credibility across an increasingly polarized and skeptical public.
There is a chance one corporation is doing this, and it's CBS.
They haven't officially announced, but it looks like Barry Weiss is going to become the editor-in-chief of CBS News.
that I think is remarkable.
Barry Weiss is a remarkable woman.
Started free press.
She was one of the people that Elon Musk sent all the Twitter files to.
She does not agree politically with me,
but she will talk to people like me.
She's been on this show before.
I find her reasonable and thoughtful.
And while we don't necessarily agree on politics, she knows common sense politics.
And she does not play that game.
She was fired from the New York Times.
She was one of the most respected journalists around.
And she was fired or was she fired or she quit?
No, she quit.
She quit.
She resigned because she couldn't handle it anymore because they were doing all this woke crap.
I mean, I think this could be a very big move.
You get CBS, if she actually as editor-in-chief can clean house and put real investigative
journalists in there and also stop with the one side of journalists, make sure that there are people
that are open to the other side as well, you know?
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there'll be times that we disagree with the reporting.
And there's a lot of ifs you just outlined, which of course are important.
We don't know for sure what's going to happen here.
But like, as of yesterday, there was no.
no chance any of the major three networks would ever produce a story that was honest.
And now we have a situation where we might get some.
This is a massive improvement to me.
Yeah.
You know, I think she, you know, if she does what she did, you know, what she's done at the free press at CBS,
it will be an incredible improvement.
And for the first time, in a very, very long time, we may get some honest, solid reporting,
some interesting perspective from one of these three major networks.
I mean, it's been basically off of our radar for decades that we'd ever get anything of value
out of any of these places.
And so while I think, you know, you'll get the people who will be upset about this or that
that happens there, think of where we've been.
I mean, honestly, when she left the New York Times and she went into business for herself,
I would have been shocked if CBS News even hired her as an opinion contributor or had her on as somebody who just had a POV of a story.
Exactly.
They wouldn't have done it.
No.
Now they're talking about her running it.
That is a massive, massive improvement in our media landscape.
And it reminds me sort of of Elon taking over Twitter.
It's like we're not going to get the entire media, but if we have one place that will at least give free speech a chance, that's something major.
That's a huge, huge improvement.
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You know, I said I think two days after Charlie Kirk had died, I wonder who's going to be the first to name a street like Martin Luther King Boulevard or Caesar Chavez Boulevard after Charlie Kirk.
And we have one now.
Highway has just been renamed as the Charlie Kirk Highway.
Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway has been approved by the Lake County County County.
mission in Florida. It's a section of wellness way from U.S. 27 to the Orange County line.
It's just, I think, west of Orlando. And it's just in one county because it had to be done
county by county. But yesterday on social media, Governor Rhonda Santis announced this is the first
county that would recognize the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk. And it's installed in Florida.
Once again, Texas.
Texas, what's wrong with you?
Come on.
But Florida leading the way again,
and I hope that this happens in county after county,
in city after city.
If you're living in a conservative city,
why you wouldn't change a name of a street
or your section of the highway into the Charlie Kirk Memorial,
Charlie Kirk, Kirk Boulevard?
It should happen in every state, in every state.
So good news there.
Really good news, yeah.
It's important.
It's such a fascinating thing that's going on with trying to fight for the sort of legacy of Charlie Kirk.
There's this battle going on, which has a lot of dark corners to it that aren't great.
But I think, you know, remembering who he was in a way that just says this is a guy who spoke up for what he believed in.
He tried to do politics the right way.
He tried to get in front of people and debate them and have conversation.
and he also tried to persuade them.
That was what he was trying to do.
Persuade people.
That is what you're supposed to do in this world when it comes to politics.
And he did it, he did it and he did it well.
There's a story in the show prep today.
I don't want to spend any time on it except for this.
It talks about, you know, it's from the left point of view.
And they say, well, the right has their George Floyd and their hero worshipping Charlie Kirk.
No, no.
Don't compare Charlie Kirk to George Floyd.
George Floyd died.
I mean, I believe the autopsy says because of drugs,
and I'm not dismissing the cop that, you know, the way he acted.
I think it was horrible the way he acted, et cetera, et cetera.
But this was a guy who was not a good example for our children that should not be hero-worshipped.
Should people, people should say cops should never behave that way.
But George Floyd was not a hero the way he lived his life.
I don't want, you want your kids acting like George Floyd?
You want George Floyd to be a hero for your kids?
No, I don't.
I don't.
And it has nothing to do with race.
Nothing.
And it has nothing to do with the cops.
The cops?
Fine.
That should never happen.
It's horrible.
Charlie Kirk,
I want my kids to be self-educated.
to be relentless pursuers of education and truth.
I want them to be Christ-like.
I want them to debate openly and kindly.
Yeah, I want.
I mean, our nation would be much better off
if we had kids looking up to Charlie Kirk and going,
that's who I'd like to be.
What would society be like if the society said,
you know what, George Floyd, that's who I want to be?
I mean, it's a pretty different society.
So please don't say that we found our George Floyd.
No.
And don't try to make me feel bad for looking at Charlie Kirk as a hero.
I think he was.
And so are they saying that he is a hero?
Or are they demeaning what George Floyd was?
I'm confused as to which way they're going here.
Because we were told George Floyd was a hero and we're told that Charlie Kirk is a hate monger.
So I don't know which way they're going with that.
I don't think they really do either.
Yeah, I don't think they do either.
Again, you know, people just say things.
There's a need for it to fill up the internet.
So people just say things.
But that's a stupid take.
And by the way, we're not burning down any cities over it.
I've noticed.
Let me also give you another name of a hero that everybody should know.
Everybody should know the name Lydia Kaiser.
This is a hero.
Do you know who she is?
Lydia Kaiser.
Did she discover the bun?
Is it a, no, she wasn't the Kaiser role?
No.
No.
No.
I'll give you a hint.
She's just been able to return to school at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis.
Yeah, this is a great story.
I didn't know her name, but this is a great one.
Yeah.
Twelve years old, she's the girl that shielded a friend and was shot instead of her friend.
Okay.
She shielded them.
What happened to her is she gets wounded.
and she's had to have three different brain surgeries
to be able to survive what she saw.
Her family says she's going to need ongoing care
for the foreseeable future,
but she is a brave little fighter.
She's feeling stronger every day.
There's a GoFundMe account set up for the Kaiser family
to help them with the brain surgeries
and everything else after the shooting.
GoFund me.
I think it's go fund me.
Hang on.
just a second, let me see.
It's go fund me.com.
Help Lydia and the Kaiser family.
Awesome.
Okay.
But you can give to that fund.
I think that's great.
So there's good news.
This hero,
that's what I want my kids to have as heroes.
I want my kids to be able to look and go,
wow,
at 12,
she's putting her body in front of her friends.
Amazing.
Let me give you another good story.
GoFundMe. Look at the money that GoFundMe has raised. Do you remember the time when, I don't even remember the name of the, the, you know, charitable fundraising, uh, website that you could go use and they kept kicking people off. Remember up in Canada? They were like, canceling you and tracing, you know, who those people were and trying to turn them in. Do you remember that's what? It was the name of that. It doesn't matter. But GoFund me came out.
Because they were like, no, we're not going to, we're not going to do any of those things.
You want to raise money for conservative causes?
You can do that.
You can do that here.
That's another big thing.
You know, it's like when Twitter, when Twitter went to Elon Musk, look how much changed.
Go fund me.
Look how much has changed.
Look how much good we have as people have done.
Let me give you another piece of good news.
I told you about this yesterday.
But let me read.
My name is Dave.
Like all of you, I was shocked by the murders at the LDS Chapel in Grand Blanc, Michigan on September 28.
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They face financial hardship and psychological trauma as a result of this week's horrifying events.
On top of that, one of Sanford's sons deals with serious medical challenges that require
ongoing care, treatment, and specialized support. In the past, the family has attempted to raise funds
for him without a lot of response or help. I have no connection to the Sanford's, yada, yada.
I'm just an ordinary member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. James teaches us in
the Bible that pure religion and undefiled before God and the father is this, to visit the
fatherless and the widows in their affliction. The purpose of this is, the purpose of this,
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daily needs, provide for ongoing medical treatment, and create some stability in a time when
heartbreak and upheaval is at the fore. Thank you for your kindness, your compassion, and
willingness to lift up those who are suffering. They have now raised, I think it's $400,000,
something like that.
350, I can't find it here.
But another
amazing thing
that we wouldn't even have considered
you know, when George Floyd
went down, you know,
nobody was raising money for the families
of the cops.
Well, those are the bad guys, right?
Nobody raised any money on that side,
the victim's side. Nobody said anything
about their families.
And that's fine.
don't do it to compare, but I'm just, I am proud to be a part of people like this.
So some good news on both of those things and the Charlie Kirk Highway.
I didn't want your Friday to go by without giving you some things that are like,
you know what, we're making progress.
And Barry Weiss, I think that story is possibly one of those things, too.
We're making real progress.
I totally agree with that.
It's very easy to get down and realize, you know, worry about all the things that are going on in the world.
There's plenty of bad ones.
But again, you just think about where we were just a few years ago.
I mean, you know, they weren't, we were watching men in dresses in makeup commercials.
And, you know, it's not to say that none of that stuff goes on.
It still does at some level.
But a lot of it has been cleared out.
A lot, you know, American Eagle came out and said,
They had a million new customers.
Again, you run an ad.
You hope to sell a few pairs of jeans.
A million new customers because they just said, hey, you know, it would be a good idea.
We should just put someone who is attractive in our clothing.
You know, like.
And I think that that was controversial.
Yeah.
I mean, the world is going to look back on all of those TV shows, all of these things.
They're going to look back.
That's going to just seem, that is forever preserved.
And when the world comes back to normal, when it comes back to common sense, it's going to look insane.
Our children and our grandchildren are going to go, what the hell were you thinking?
Yeah.
And we're going, it's interesting because I think of, you think of go back to the past like 40 years of life.
There have been, you know, bits and pieces, you know, things that have happened.
But there haven't been like eras that are in my mind totally have defied, like have been so incredibly
strange looking back on them.
And in the last five years, I think we've had two of them.
One is the COVID era.
We're just like, wait a minute.
What were we doing?
We weren't going out to restaurants.
Like we couldn't go outside.
They were putting sand in skate parks and you couldn't go in the ocean.
And think of all the crazy things we lived through in 2020 and into 2021 in some areas.
And then the era that followed that, which, you know, I don't know if you wanted to define
it as that whatever the woke air peak wokeness, whatever that was.
Where, you know, the example that pops into my head all the time is the National Hockey League tweeting trans rights are human rights and trans women are women.
Like, what the hell? You're a hockey league.
So let me go. Let me add another one right now.
Charlie Kirk's assassination.
This is another one that we have not lived in.
We have not lived this.
In my lifetime, I mean, I was four when Martin Luther King died.
So I don't remember.
But, you know, you're not, you're younger than I am.
You didn't live through anything like this.
Yeah.
So there's three things that the first one, COVID, we swore would never, like a month before.
I said, well, that'll never happen in America.
It was happening in Italy.
I said, oh, God, can you imagine that ever happening here?
And then two weeks later it was.
It was happening.
It was happening. So we experienced that.
We said, it'll never happen.
then the trans stuff and, you know, guys in dresses dancing in first grade and preschool and all of that stuff and parents taking their kids to do.
It was like, what the hell is that?
Never happened before.
Never happened.
Now this.
I mean, we're in five years, five years.
Well, this is sort of the question I was leading up to.
And this is a longer conversation than we have time for right now.
but maybe you've put thought into this.
Have we moved into a time where it's going to be nonstop stuff like this,
where we swing wildly from era to era to era to era.
And it's not like it was.
I mean, part of me thinks, you know, the world, you talk about it with Jonathan Haidt
in your podcast, the world that we currently live in, I think might fuel these sorts of
wild changes from one side to the other, the pendulum swinging wider and wider and wider
and that it's a scary prospect, honestly,
because I don't think we handle those things very well.
That question will be answered in the next election with Congress
and then the next presidential election.
I think if we can stay on this path for another six years,
Donald Trump told me it would take 12,
but, you know, at least six years,
we have a chance of being the,
we have a chance of being the the last outpost of sanity in the free world.
But if we don't continue down this path, we will swing so hard back the opposite direction.
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I got to tell you, this Riyadhati Comedy Festival
and the comedians that are over there,
especially Dave Chappelle,
saying in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,
we have more free speech,
than we do in America. How dare you, Dave? I want to talk about that. And Bridget Fetasy is going to be
joining us to discuss comedy and Saudi Arabia. This. So the Riyadh Comedy Festival just happened. And it's a
bunch of comedians that were paid a lot of money to show up and be part of this comedy festival. And you had to
sign a document that said you wouldn't make fun of religion.
You wouldn't make fun of the royal family, et cetera, et cetera.
And you wouldn't make fun of Saudi Arabia.
And they went.
And, you know, they made millions and millions of dollars.
These comedians, you know, I think the, I think the average was, what, $1.7 million for the big-name comedians.
And I cut Louis C.K a break because nobody in America is letting him work.
So let him go over.
He can work wherever he wants.
He didn't do it comedy shows in China if he has to make money.
I'm fine with that one.
but Dave Chappelle said some really, I thought from the stage, really not good things.
Quote, right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you'll get canceled.
I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out.
It's easier to talk here than it is in America.
They're going to do something to me so that I can't say what I want to say when he returned to the United States.
I don't know, Dave.
It seems ignorant,
really ignorant and a little un-American to say those kinds of things on stage in Saudi Arabia.
So where do we stand on this one?
We fine with our comedians going over to Saudi Arabia,
and if we're not,
then should we be canceling all of those big, you know,
airplane contracts with Saudi Arabia?
But what?
Why are just golfers?
and comedians not allowed to do the Riyadh comedy festival.
And yet I still feel dirty because of it.
Bridget,
Bridget Fetisi is here.
She's going to talk to us about this coming up in just a second.
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My good friend, Bridget Fettisey.
How are you?
You, first of all, just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss.
you and so and everybody at the blaze.
No, you're all, it's not that far out.
Yeah, I know.
And I just wanted to say, I'm sorry.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
But I'm good, you know?
Life is crazy.
I know.
Every time I talk to you, something new has happened where I'm like, that's not the
bridge that I know.
I'm anxious to hear where you stand on this Riyadi comedy festival.
Reminds me.
I just keep thinking of that Ricky Jerva's monologue that he did years ago,
where he said, if ISIS started a streaming service, you'd call your agent.
I mean, it becomes more relevant somehow every year, that monologue that he did.
And I don't know, I think comedians got too rich, and maybe we all need to just, I mean,
I'm not rich like them, but maybe comedians in general just need to go back to being kind of viewed as dumb,
losers again.
I think some of these guys are out over their skis a little bit, and they got really
huge.
And now, I don't know, maybe this is a challenge for them to push the limits because
they can say whatever they want in America.
So going to Saudi is like, ooh, a little dangerous, a little titillating.
I don't know.
They all had to sign documents that they wouldn't, you know, make fun of religion.
they wouldn't make fun of Saudi Arabia,
wouldn't make fun of the royal family,
et cetera,
et cetera.
You know,
my thought on this,
my thought on this,
if we went to these same comedians and said,
hey,
we'll pay you the same amount of money.
We want to do a Washington,
D.C.
Trump comedy,
uh,
uh,
uh,
you know,
weekend.
Would these guys have signed the same exact thing?
No,
they wouldn't have.
They wouldn't have.
And everybody would have been out of their mind crazy on the left,
saying,
look at Donald Trump wants to shut people down.
Wanted it to shut down anybody.
You can't make fun of his family?
Well, that's, it's impossible.
He's not going to do it.
None of these comedians would have done that.
None of them.
Yeah, it's, I'm not, I wouldn't have done it.
And I'm not wealthy.
But there's really no amount of money that you could have paid me to do that.
Only because I think if I'm, first of all, if I'm somebody out there who's screaming
women and screaming about the rights of women and what, how we should be fighting for people like
the women in Saudi Arabia who have no real voice or as many rights as we do, then it would be
very hypocritical for me to go stand on that stage and say whatever I want. I also think they're
not getting, they're getting paid. That's what they're getting paid. The quotes that are
coming out of there, every quote I see, I was like, wow, the Saudis got their money's worth.
Loved it. We're trying to justify your appearance in Saudi.
Arabia. The quote, the royals were very happy is not great coming out of your mouth.
Yeah, and I, I love the fact, again, Chappelle said, you know, he's, you know, what,
America hasn't killed people. Yeah, the Saudi prince has killed people. What we haven't,
you know, please give it a rest. Because you don't just write it off like that in America.
You know what I mean? You know, just like, oh, yeah, so what our government has just killed a few
people. You don't, but you're going to do it here because you're getting a big paycheck.
Yeah, we, I hear this argument a lot. Oh, how is this any different than the government?
This is, I can't, you can't fix that kind of stupid. I can't even, I won't even even,
even deal with it because it's like listening to a 19 year old in their first year of college who
just smoked a box. Like, okay, Saudi Arabia and America are the same. Tell me more about your
enlightened anti-American thoughts.
Like, all right.
Go live in Saudi Arabia then.
Like, let me know how that works out for you.
Try making fun of the royal family.
Try making fun of the journalist or anything that they said that you can't make fun of.
Go let me know how that works out for you.
And something more than the three days that you spent there viewing.
I mean, a lot of it was, it was, it's so like, oh, we, we, they have McDonald's in Starbucks.
This was some of the quotes coming from Bill that I was kind of like, yeah, so this is like Tucker eating McDonald's in Russia.
Like, okay.
We, that doesn't mean that these places are the same.
I don't know what's happening.
Coca-Cola was, Coca-Cola was served to the Nazis in Germany up until like 19,
42. You know, hey, we're just like you. No, no, you're not. No, you're not. That Coke bottle doesn't
make you us. I don't know. I'm not sure what's going on. But again, I am of many minds about
this because I have been at venture capitalist events and the Saudis have been there. And I don't
know why should Jared Kushner be allowed to make money with the Saudis and not the comedians.
Right.
Like you said in the opening.
I mean, I think it's funny how much less the comedians got paid than the golfers.
Pretty significantly.
The golfers are getting tens of millions.
The comedians are getting like hundreds of thousands to a million to sell their soul out.
And I don't know.
That's just that's also funny to me.
I'm like, they offer the golfers a lot more than you guys.
You know, the thing with, you said it earlier,
the hypocrisy.
They don't understand.
It's like they have,
they never listen to that one of these things
doesn't belong song on Sesame Street.
I mean, with Jimmy Kimmel,
listen to what Shane Gillis said
about Jimmy Kimmel's return.
Listen.
It was good to see everybody stick up for him
for free speech and,
I'm just glad they were all there
for me back in 20th.
He's my brother and being canceled now.
He was canceled for, what was that, 48 hours?
Mine was a couple years, but no big deal.
What's the doing?
He had to hold tight.
Probably a very nice kind of modern house on the hills in L.A.
He had to sit there and just warm.
You see you mean he didn't have to lay on a mattress in Queens with two snarky roommates
that were like, oh, did you write that apology?
Yeah, I could tell.
What the fuck.
Oh, Shane, I love him so much.
I just love him.
Yeah, I mean, look, I also feel, and I saw this,
on Will Kane. When it feels like the
world is ending and
everything is coming undone,
I understand people just
grabbing as much cash as they can.
And look, some of these
comedians were not hugely famous
and have been struggling for a long
time. And like Shane mentioned,
you're sleeping on a mattress on the floor for many,
many years before you even make it
in comedy. If you even make it,
I don't know. It's,
Like, get that bag, but you're going to have to hear about this forever.
This is going to, there are people who, I think for some of these guys that did real damage to their brand or whatever, some more than others.
Bridget, I'm of two minds on this because I get the criticism, what we've been talking about, like, you know, the stuff that Chappelle said and stuff, like, I don't like it, and I think it's kind of silly.
But I also saw a lot of the pushback from, like, the high.
minded, I'm better than all of you people, comedians that...
Yeah, I know.
I saw David Cross did some of this.
There's a bunch of people who did it.
You're a big fan of David Cross.
Oh, yeah, I loved...
I mean, I'm a Mr. Show junkie from back in the day.
But, like, you know, it's just like, okay, I get it.
But I don't understand why there is a double standard for entertainers in this world.
Like, you know, all sorts of American companies sell products in these countries.
You know, as you mentioned, tons of investors do business in Saudi Arabia.
I mean, Saudi Arabia is, you know, again, this is not the Nazi regime.
This is, we're not at war with them.
They're supposedly in some ways allies of ours.
And like, do the people of Saudi Arabia not get to laugh?
Do they not get to go to comedy shows?
Like, like, they can't have a festival in their country where people come and enjoy comedians.
We saw, we've seen before.
No, no, unless they're on giant Boeing planes that seemingly every resident owns one.
Right, right. But like, we've seen cultural outreach like this before have positive influences.
Glenn and I were talking about this before we're off the air, and I checked it after Glenn.
We talked about it. You know, Billy Joel went over and did a concert in the Soviet Union.
This was before the collapse. It was four years before the Soviet Union collapse.
Like, I'm not saying that it's probably no more high-minded than getting your bag.
I get it, Bridget. But like, isn't there a weird double standard when it comes to entertainers that they're supposed to somehow
you know, I don't know, change the entire regime's mindset before they take a weekend gig.
I don't understand it.
I, like I said, I'm of many minds about this because I think that some of this, that's all
absolutely true.
And I don't, I don't blame really any of these people for taking the money and going at the
same time.
You also have to understand that you are a useful idiot who's being used by.
a regime. But understand that. It's fine. I don't think it's the same as doing,
here's why I don't think it's the same as doing business, because business people are smart enough
to be behind closed doors and do all this stuff in Park City at secretive events where they all
fly in on their private jets. And entertainers are their, their face is their brand. Their
jokes are their brands. Same with the golfers. Ultimately, you're an athlete, but you're also an
entertainer. And I think that's why they get held to this unfair double standard, because they're
actually quite poor compared to everyone else around them. These are court jesters for the
kings. I will tell you, I will tell you, the Jewish state could have put on a comedy festival
and paid them the same amount of money,
and I bet you almost all of those comedians
would have turned it down because it's Israel.
They would never do it.
They would never do it for Donald Trump.
The government said,
we're going to put on a comedy festival
for the 250th anniversary,
but you can't make fun of the religion or the founding
or the Donald Trump family.
They would never, ever.
They would cry bloody murder on that.
And the last thing is,
I am really sick of everybody,
going to us taking our culture and then giving us theirs.
We seem to be taking all of the Saudi culture.
You know, we're, we're to go ahead, go to Little Somalia.
I don't want that culture.
I don't want it.
You can keep that culture.
You want to borrow some of ours and see and go, that's great.
That's the difference with Billy Joel.
He went over because they were starving for our culture.
They wanted to be more like us.
Right.
They keep sending us all of their crap than saying, you take it.
No, no, you keep your stuff.
I'd like to keep ours.
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a host of Walkins Welcome and the dumpster fire.
and just a dear, dear friend that I just absolutely love.
Bridget, what's happening in your life?
What is the thing that's grabbing your attention
or, you know, you feel compelled to share?
Oh, there's so much.
I'm really concerned about this kind of rise in anti-Semitism.
That's kind of what I'm, I think, most obsessed with these days.
And I find it to be so...
natural force.
So that's grabbed my attention.
The Charlie Kirk thing, I think, was another.
I was laughing before I came on because I was thinking every time I talk to Glenn,
I'm like a little bit more red bill.
I'm like a little bit more to the right.
I know.
And I'm not sure the center's holding.
This is another thing that I've been thinking a lot about and want to write about.
What does that mean?
I just don't, I haven't been able to articulate it, which is why I think I want to write about it.
But it, I don't get this, relationships that I've had even in my family that have managed to be okay through Trump, not Trump, Trump, you know, the past decade really are starting to fray.
and people
I'm either pretty openly pro-Israel
or because I'm now more
openly pro-Republican.
I think the center,
I think the center right is the new right.
I think the center right is the new center.
I think it used to be the center left
and I feel like it's shifted like that to America's,
the Charlie thing really made that pretty,
evident to me that there seem to be kind of the two Americas are really moving apart from one
another more and more. And I'm seeing kind of the way centrist are trying to frame these things and
they're just, they're having a hard time because it's not, there's two versions of America that
people seem to be trying to grapple with. And I, I,
find that building something with family, there's one that's more patriotic, more family oriented,
more religious oriented, and the left, I'm not exactly sure what they stand for at the moment,
and it does seem like it's more destructive, and I think more and more people are seeing that and
feeling that.
Bridget, always good to talk to you. God bless you. Have a great weekend. Stay safe.
Bridget Fetacee, writer and stand-up comedian.
You're welcome. Love you.
A host of the podcast, Walkins, welcome.
She has her YouTube program, Dumpster Fire and Real America.
Bridget Fetacee.
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So Matt Walsh has just written a piece for the Daily Wire.
The Pope hosts cringe climate justice event as a life to line,
as a lifelong and devote Catholic, he writes.
I don't enjoy criticizing the Pope.
I would prefer not to do it, but I have to do what I believe is the right thing.
a time when we simply cannot rely on church leadership to actually lead with moral clarity.
It falls upon the rest of us to speak up.
After a 30-day stretch in which one of the most prominent Christians in the country was murdered
in front of the entire world, prompting thousands of public celebrations,
a murder that was bookend by mass shootings at two different churches.
One was targeted by trans-identifying terrorists to explicitly despise Jesus Christ.
You might hope that the Christian leaders throughout the world,
and in all positions, would be focused on that crisis.
especially true since in Nigeria Christians are currently being systematically slaughtered by Islamists
in a genocide that has been going on for many years, be the ideal time for the most important Christian leader,
the leader of the Catholic Church, the Pope, to say something that might reassure Christians and Catholics
who are increasingly being targeted with violence because of their faith.
Christians need moral guidance now more than any other time in recent memory.
But that's just not the approach of Pope Leo.
First, the Pope stated that you would not be pro-life if you support the death penalty,
a position that contradicts scripture and Catholic tradition.
Then in the next breath, the Pope suggested that you're not really pro-life if you don't open the borders to illegals.
Now he just appeared at the Vatican's latest international conference in Italy, which was entitled Raising Hope for Climate Justice.
This is where he blessed a block of Arctic ice.
And I want to just play this clip real quick.
I would now like to invite you to stand for the blessing of the waters.
Lord of life, bless this water.
May it awaken our hearts, cleanse our indifference,
soothe our grief, and renew our hope through Christ, our Lord.
All right, I mean, that's not bad, I guess.
I guess it's just, you know, is that the climate justice,
which is, you know, socialist in nature and everything else.
I don't, I wanted to bring Liz Wheeler on because I think she's the best Catholic I know next to my mother-in-law.
And, uh, and Liz, I don't want to criticize the Pope because at least he's not Francis, who I didn't have a problem criticizing because I didn't think he was actually Catholic.
Um, is this, where do, where, where do you stand with this Pope? Is he, is there hope here? Is this just a blip? What, what are you thinking?
Um, good question.
I think a lot of, I think Catholics all over the world are asking themselves that same
question.
So I would say let's start with the good news first.
Good news is the catch is it.
Oh, geez.
Oh, geez.
Oh, geez.
Oh, wait.
Wait.
The fifth.
Good news.
Okay.
We're going to have to tell her.
Yeah.
And the system shuts some sort of digital hell.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're cutting out, Liz.
Quite, quite badly.
Oh, it's cutting out.
Let me.
There you go.
Let me see if I can.
wants to a different spot.
Stay where you are.
Sounds better.
That's good.
Yep.
Good.
Okay.
The second thing.
We missed the first thing.
Oh, my gosh.
It is out.
Oh, the first thing was that the Catholic Church is the Davidic Kingdom and it will endure
regardless of infiltrators.
So there's not, it's not a political organization.
It's a spiritual one.
The second piece of hope is that young men entering the priesthood today are incredibly based.
So the next generation is not going to be dealing with the boomer.
liberal priests that we have to deal with right now. That's kind of the good news. It is demoralizing,
I think, as a Catholic to see the Pope engaging in this climate, I mean, he calls it climate justice.
What does that mean? And I'm not saying that rhetorically. Climate justice is a very thin mask
over communist political aspirations. So it feels for a Pope to be cavorting with these people.
I mean, he blessed that water.
I throw that holy water on these communists,
see how many demons hiss out of them.
I mean, this is a communist ideology that he's playing around with.
And I agree with Matt Walsh.
I don't like criticizing the Pope as a Catholic because,
and I'll be perfectly blunt with you, Glenn,
because whenever I as a Catholic criticize the Pope,
my evangelical friends and Protestant brethren conflate my criticism of the Pope
with criticism of the Catholic doctrine.
And that's one of the things that sets Catholicism apart is the Pope is the leader of the church.
And as such, we, of course, hope that he accurately represents the doctrine.
But he does not write or dictate the doctrine.
He can say things as the Pope that contradicts Catholic doctrine because what he says is not infallible.
We as Catholics are not required to take everything he says, as no pun intended, gospel.
And it's confusing sometimes because that's not.
not how a lot of Protestant and evangelical churches are, but it's worth noting because in this case,
I mean, to me, and I'm not trying to stand here and define what sins have been committed or anything
like that, far be it from me. But it seems to me that when you stand quite literally next to
communists and take part in their rituals, that it's going to be very confusing. It is the near
occasion of sin at best because people who are not as informed about what quote-unquote climate
justice actually is might conflate it for our true calling as Christians, which is to be good stewards
of the creation that God gave us. That's true. We are called to do that as Christians. But when you
conflate that with climate justice, which is anti-humanity, anti-God, that can be very confusing for
people who aren't as politically entrenched and reading these documents of the UN Climate Conference like
you and I and a lot of the people who are listening today do.
So I find it to be disappointing like that.
I actually think I texted this to a friend earlier.
I think he's good on many theological things.
He has some liturgical tendencies that are refreshing after Francis.
He seems to be extending the olive branch to a lot of traditional Catholics with
the Latin Mass and that kind of thing.
And that's good.
But I texted a friend this morning.
I said he should listen to his brother more on politics.
His brother, I think, has a very bombastic account down in Florida posting some, what I consider to be funny.
Some people might consider it to be bombastic things about Hillary Clinton.
Wow.
And I mean, I don't love his politics.
So I think there's hope, but there's also a little disappointment, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I think we all go through this with all of our churches.
Because I think all of our churches have let us down.
I really do.
I mean, my church, I don't happen to agree with, you know, the stance on illegal aliens.
I don't understand that stance.
You know, I understand compassion and everything else,
but follow the law is also part of it, I thought.
And we all have things that make us uncomfortable in all of our churches,
and we just, I hope and pray that we'll start to see our churches find the leadership,
the leadership that will stand up and be very, very clear on universal,
principles, you know, here, 25, 30 years ago, my faith came out with the proclamation of the family.
And 30 years ago, it seemed insane. And it was like, gender is specific and ordained by God.
Man, woman, children. That's the family proclamation. And it went deep into it. And that seemed
nuts at the time. But that's the kind of stuff we need from all of our churches right now.
what are the eternal truths that we all need to stand for?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And that's actually one of the reasons why I'm,
not just why I'm Catholic,
but why I'm excited to be Catholic,
because while, yes, it can be demoralizing
when a leader who is a de facto representative of your faith
speaks politics either wrongly in an ill-informed way
or even in what I consider to be immorally,
at the same time,
because he doesn't change the doctrine,
I mean, look at theology of the body, Pope John Tauld II.
You know, look at the catechism of the Catholic Church defining communism as coming from Satan.
I mean, these are truths that aren't changed and that the Catholic Church is unwavering in not just her belief, but her teaching.
And if you put aside really the sin and the brokenness of the people who lead the church, because we're all sinful and we're all broken.
and you look at just the truth of the gospel, you know, whether this is, you know, we in the Catholic
Church call this the word.
It is both the Bible and tradition and the living word, Jesus Christ himself.
If you look at this deposit of faith, it is eternal.
It is unchanging.
And that brings hope beyond just politics and beyond just the leadership of a specific organization
that brings eternal hope.
And that's why, you know, no matter who is currently at the helm of the administration of the church,
will always be Catholic.
How are you feeling about the way Christians are dealing with each other right now?
I think we're in a new place and a really good place. Do you feel that?
Yeah, there's a spiritual revival that's happening. I mean, it accelerated after the assassination
of Charlie Kirk, because you and I have talked about this often, Glenn, when someone is confronted
with evil, as we all have been, because of the politics of the recent decades, it brings to the
forefront of your mind in a very new and very sometimes jarring way that, well, if there's evil,
then there must also be good. And when you search for that good, it leads you toward God.
And this has been a slow role that's been happening over the course of the last decade.
And there's been some accelerating events. There were the Black Lives Matter riots.
There was the COVID vaccine mandate.
There was, of course, the very recent murder of our friend Charlie.
There have been these events where people are like, wow, that, you know, when you're told that your white child is a racist just because they have white skin and that your black child is oppressed just because they have black skin, like that's not just stupid policy.
That's not just ill-informed leaders.
That's evil.
And so people have been searching and they are rightfully.
And, I mean, it brings me great joy finding God in the midst of this political evil because we would like, I think, to believe that politics and religion are separate, that they're two entirely different entities.
But the truth of the matter is they're not.
Our society is intended to help human flourishing.
But human flourishing is not just a liberty to do whatever you want.
It's not just licensed.
It's the opportunity, the liberty to pursue virtue, which is your opportunity to choose Christ.
So you can't really separate the two.
And it's become very clear that the other side doesn't separate their religion from their politics.
We are, of course, engaged in spiritual warfare, not just left versus right political bickering here.
And it has been in the midst of the suffering that we have all endured in our country over the past decade.
It is also a good and humbling reminder that God brings so much.
good out of evil because you see this incredible awakening that's happening in people's hearts as
they face what could turn them to the bad side, but instead is causing them to turn towards God.
Liz, thank you for stopping by the show today. I appreciate it. Just love you. Stay safe.
Thanks, Juan. Appreciate it. You bet. You bet. Bye-bye. One of my favorite people, two of my favorite people
on the show in this hour. I mean, Liz is just remarkable. Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate that.
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The rope may break, but the ride goes on.
This is Glenn Beck.
If you happen to be a Blaze TV subscriber, I think you have access now
and access comes out to everybody this weekend of Glenn's new podcast with Jonathan Haidt.
If you don't know Jonathan Haidt, we talked about him a little bit earlier today, but he is kind of, I don't know, he's one of the first mainstream academics that actually tried to understand what conservatives were doing and didn't just call them haters.
He wrote a book called The Righteous Mind, which was very, very good.
Also did a really good free speech book a couple years ago.
But his latest book is called The Anxious Generation.
and it is focused on this massive experiment we've just sort of thrust ourselves into as a nation
where we ask ourselves the question, what if we just turn over two-thirds of our lives to phones?
What happens? Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
And I think we are all sort of inherently aware that generally speaking it's a bad thing.
I don't know that we know the extent of it yet.
he goes through all of the research in the book and gives you a perspective not just on the way
you're feeling, which is probably the same way I'm feeling, I guess, which is, you know,
this is really bad particularly for our kids.
Though I think it's also terrible for adults.
I don't think we should underplay that element of it as well.
But I think it's really terrible for kids, especially in these developmental years.
And he has a concept of basically trying to create a new norm that we, you know, that we,
We keep no phones until I think it's 14 and no social media until 16.
Now, I'm trying to be an extremist and go beyond those years, if at all possible.
You know, or my son's already 14 and does not have a phone.
So I don't tell him about that new standard because that's the standard it's going to be for a long time for him.
And my daughter as well.
But I do think it's a really impactful book and podcast as well coming out this weekend.
Let yourself get involved in this and understand it a little bit.
and it can be kind of the gateway drug
into getting a little bit farther down this road,
especially if you have kids that are, I don't know,
seven, eight, nine,
in that general area,
you've got years to come that are going to be very difficult.
And as the outlines in the book,
you know,
we got very weird over the past 15 years or so
where we started getting really,
really protective of kids in real life,
worrying that they're going to fall off of playgrounds
all the time and all the real life concerns
we got helicopter parent over
and did the exact opposite
with their online lives
and just let them kind of go wherever they wanted to go and crossed our fingers.
Not the right approach.
So Jonathan Haidt with Glenn Beck this weekend on the podcast.
Don't miss it.
Ben Beck.
