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Episode Date: November 12, 2024

President Trump has announced he will shut down the Department of Education. Will he be able to follow through? Glenn is hopefully optimistic. Is Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) a good pick for secretary of state? Glenn shares some concerns as he and Stu discuss the interesting pick. Glenn stresses the importance of Trump surrounding himself with trustworthy players in his Cabinet. Many on the Left and some on the Right are against tariffs. However, President Trump is poised to implement many of them during his second term. Heritage Foundation visiting fellow Peter St Onge joins to lay out how tariffs can help the economy, as long as they're coupled with lowering taxes everywhere else. Glenn and Stu discuss the probability that Trump will be able to eliminate income tax while having complete Republican control of the government. Glenn and Stu discuss the role of ABC’s "The View" in getting President-elect Donald Trump elected for a second term. It’s simple: If you’re here illegally, you have no right to be here. Moms for Liberty co-founder Tina Descovich joins to celebrate the school board victories across the country.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Let's go through them one by one, shall we? And his vow to now close down the secretary... Sorry, the Department of Education. That's good news. I believe it will happen. Do you? We go there next. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile.

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do that. I will also say one of the central parts of education policy for Republicans for as long as I've been aware of politics, have been the idea of school choice. And nothing ever happened until the past couple of years. Right? Like now we've come further on school choice than at any other point in my lifetime. I'm really excited about that. I think his appointments around this area will be really interesting. So here's what he has said.

First, let's start with his plan to overhaul leftist colleges, cut five. Tuition costs at colleges and universities have been exploding, and I mean absolutely exploding. While academics have been obsessed with indoctrinating America's youth, the time has come to reclaim our once-grade educational institutions from the radical left, and we will do that. Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system. It's called accreditation for a reason. The accreditors are supposed to ensure that. that schools are not ripping off students and taxpayers, but they have failed totally.

When I return to the White House, I will fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges to become dominated by Marxists, maniacs, and lunatics. We will then accept applications for new accreditors who will impose real standards on colleges once again and once and for all. These standards will include defending the American tradition, and Western civilization, protecting free speech, eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs incredibly, removing all Marxist, diversity, equity, and inclusion bureaucrats, offering options for accelerated and low-cost degrees, providing meaningful job placement and career services, and implementing college entrance and exit exams to prove that students

are actually learning and getting their money's worth. Furthermore, I will direct the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases against schools that continue to engage in racial discrimination and schools that persist in explicit, unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity will not only have their endowments taxed, but through budget reconciliation, I will advance a measure

to have them find up to the entire amount of their endowment. Oh my. A portion of the seized funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these illegal and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country so badly. Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars from hardworking taxpayers, and now we are going to get this anti-American insanity out of our institutions once and for all. We are going to have real education in America.

Oh, yeah. Again, we need some porn music for this stuff. I mean, this is just, oh, say it again, Donald. That is a very, very clear, I think. Yes. The clearest I have heard him and the most passionate that I have heard him. These are not campaign promises. He doesn't need to make these promises anymore.

These are, here's what we're doing right now. included in that, that whole rant, is this. Cut four, please. And one other thing I'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states. We want them to run the education of our children because they'll do a much better job of it. You can't do worse. We spend more money per pupil by three times than any other nation. And yet we're absolutely at the bottom.

We're one of the worst. So you can't do worse. We're going to end education coming out of Washington, D.C. We're going to close it up, all those buildings all over the place. And yet people that in many cases hate our children, we're going to send it all back to the states. Again. Oh, yeah. Love that.

I think that is really exciting. Now, do you think he won't do it or do you think he won't be able to do it? I mean, I hope that it would happen. But I mean, if you're focusing on the natural levels of pessimism that I have when it comes to anything going on in Washington. You're a little black rain cloud. Well, I mean, look, I'm trying to be realistic here. You know, I mean, but I think that there is, I think it's interesting because Trump, when he puts his, when he puts his mind to it, he can accomplish anything. But there are certain things that he says that are things I think he likes and wants, but aren't central focuses of his life.

For example, we know the border is. He's got like that. There's no question he's going to do stuff on the border. Another example I would use would be term limits. He talked often in speeches about term limits. it's in 2016 and 2017. I think you to, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. I think to compare Donald Trump's 2016 version, you're looking at a new

two point, maybe 2.9 version of Donald Trump, almost a 30. He's not the same guy. It's true. It's not even a criticism of him. No, I know. It's just like when you have, you can only focus on so many things. you can only get so many things done. Typically, maybe he's going to come up with a whole new way to do it.

Maybe he's putting all these people in, you know, that are going to be able to kind of shepherd these things so he doesn't have to focus on them all the time. Now that is, your bully pulpit, you really can only push for one or two things at a time. I don't know. I find these videos that he's putting out to be almost like a fireside chat. Mm-hmm.

And he's putting him out for a reason. Have you ever seen a president do this as president-elect? No, I like it. I love this. I like it. I love this. And he's putting these out one after another after another because he is preparing the Washington Swamp and America.

These are massive changes coming our way and we're going to need your support. And he has told me, I've got to do all of this in 100 days, Glenn. I've got 100 days to do it. He's right on that. Yeah. That's the way he should be thinking. Yeah. But it's a lot to do.

It is. But do you remember that first bill that Barack Obama put in that we looked at? It was one of the first health care bills or the, it was tarp. And then there was something else. And remember we stimulus plan, was it? Stimulus plan. $780 billion. Yeah. And it was like 2,000 pages.

And we went through it, paper, I printed it and said somebody, I didn't know how long it was. Would you print this up? Let me read this. And it was sitting on our. our kitchen table in our studios in New York City, remember? And I looked at that and I went, this is not about stimulus. This is about fundamental transformation. And they just loaded that bill with everything.

The reason why I bring that up is because that showed to me that they did something we never did. And that is plot the entire course. They knew exactly what they wanted to do. And they never told us. Donald Trump is the first one that I'm seeing doing this. He didn't even do this in 16. He made promises in 16. And he believes in keeping promises.

But he didn't get everything done. He has the Congress and the Senate right now. He can make the right appointments right now. If he fails to make the right appointments, that's going to be a problem. because if he has any internal fighting, they are going to unleash on him. Yeah, I think that's true. And if he has anybody on his own side fighting against him,

which he did have last time. Definitely did, yes. Yeah. He's got to, there is a mandate here. And the Republican should be reminded of that. And he should not put anybody in any position that doesn't understand MAGA. This is where we're going.

This truly is fundamental transformation. This is a reset back to the Constitution in as many ways that I have ever seen. This is as impactful as what FDR did in the opposite direction in 12 years. Hmm. It's interesting because part – and let me – I'm playing devil's advocate here because I have the same level of hope. hope here for what might happen. But I want you to know, though, I don't hope. I believe I know.

I believe I know in talking to him, he's not the same guy. I'm not, and that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it's hard. Oh, I know that. This is a difficult thing to do, getting rid of the Department of Education. Like, Ronald Reagan really believed that. I know that. He really did.

That was not a fake thing. He talked about it for decades. I know. Leading up to his presidency. It wasn't even one term off and he's planning like maybe Donald Trump has done here. It was, I mean, this is what this man was known for for multiple decades.

And still it was hard to do. Not Department of Education. That was central to his talks in like 1960s in the 60s. No, no, no, it wasn't. The Department of Education was started by Jimmy Carter. Right. He may have made, yes, yes, education. The consistent policies on education, you're right.

Yes, yes, sorry, I'm not being clear. But regardless, of that. I have hope and optimism for what he can do. But like when you're talking about this is somebody who's, you know, who's going to do whatever MAGA thing, he, I mean, his appointment so far have been pretty normal. It makes me nervous.

Pretty, like, Marco Rubio, his secretary of state is like, I mean. I wanted Richard Grinnell. Any Republican president in that field could have listed Marco Rubio as Secretary of State. It's like, I don't. even think, I'm not saying it's a bad pick, but like it's, it is not particularly consistent with like what I hear from the audience at times about like how against Ukraine funding they are. How against the, how against Ukraine and the W.E.F. And the United Nations. I mean, I mean, I want somebody in the U.N. that wants to shut it down. I mean, and at least Stefanik is a

normie Republican pick. Yes. And I don't think that's bad. She's, I thought she's. I thought she He was solid. Really, really good on a lot of things. I'm not even against either of these picks. But like, Marco Rubio, I'm borderline on. That's a disappointing thing. And we had Rubio on the show. We like Marco.

I like Marco Rubio. But I don't want him as a Secretary of State under Donald Trump where we're doing fun. I want Richard Cornell. I want the guy who will walk in and say, hey, by the way, just got off the phone with the president. We're going to make a deal here. Or I'm going back to tell him. we don't have a deal and instead of sending a signed deal to him, we're going to be sending aircraft

your way. You know what I mean? Right, right. I want somebody who's going to walk into the EU and say, you are either paying your way. What he said, he means, you're either paying your way or we're done. I want that guy. And I'm not sure Marco Rubio is that guy. He could be.

Yeah, maybe he could surprise us. And he's, yeah, he's obviously, I mean, he was under. serious consideration for vice president, at least by all the reporting. But it's just, it's interesting. And I think, like, part of the things with Trump is, this is, I think, consistent with him. And again, I'm not, this is not being critical here. I'm just trying to state what I think is actually true. Yeah.

Which is a lot of what Donald Trump says is a negotiation. And we all know that, going back to the art of the deal, right? Like, you know that. And when he says Kim Jong-un is my best friend, he doesn't mean it, right? He does it also mean the next day when he says, we're sending wet, we're going to go nuke, you know, North Korea tomorrow. He doesn't mean either of those things. They're both. Okay.

I want to go through. I think this is fascinating. I want to go through the things that he has said. And I want you to point out what you think is a negotiation. I don't always know. Yeah, I know. I can guess to me. We know that those two positions can't be true, though.

Like, and this is a 2016, or 20, first term reference here. But like saying you're going to, you know, we're going to, you know, blast North Korea. Like, you know, you've never seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, like, we're great friends. I love the guy. Right. Like, those aren't.

I know that. Those are two obviously. But I think there's a difference the way he deals with dictators. Mm-hmm. I think that's true. He knows because he's a private businessman who has bullied his way in very good negotiating ways. he has he's used that as a businessman. He knows who these people are.

Okay? And so he knows these are the things I would hate in business and I've done them to people who think they're all that. And I always win. I think that's different than what he's doing on, for instance, the Department of Ed. But like, I think it's consistent with what you would do with Marco Rubio or at least Stefanic.

You're picking people who, are maybe more hawkish than you to send a message of being hawkish while at the same time maybe trying to implement a more, say, JD Vance-ish type forward policy. I don't think, maybe, maybe, that could be. I don't want to, I'm going to give this man the benefit of the doubt because in 16, I didn't and I was shocked by what he got done. Yeah. And what he meant.

And now I really think that he means every word he says on these policies. policies. These are scripted. These are not campaign promises. This is, here's what we're going to do. So I take them literally, not just seriously, but literally. But I could be wrong. But my only thing on some of his appointments is, what does he know that I don't know about Marco Rubio? What does he know that I don't know? All right, back in just a second. Silver is on the rise just since January of 2024, which is when I started talking to you about Lear Capital, the price of silver has risen 39%. This is an unprecedented rise. Supply is dropping. Demand is soaring right now. Experts think that it is going to get a whole lot higher. In the short term, they think that it could go somewhere between up, between 60 and 100%. Kind of like, you know, you should buy Bitcoin, Glenn. when it was 30 cents. Yeah, thanks a lot. Please. There's a ton of industrial demand. Solar energy, electric cars, new battery technology, all of these require huge amounts of silver. And just in case you haven't been paying attention, it isn't just here at home. China is buying massive amounts of it as well. You need to be building a hedge against insanity of a falling US dollar.

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Isn't he? Certainly much more positive on it than a JD Vance. And, you know, this is, he's been pretty, I mean, Rubio's been pretty consistently hawkish since the time he's come into the public eye, which is, I think, pretty consistent with the Republican Party. I think he's been in that general vicinity. But like this, and again, it's important to note the sort of like anti-Ukraine funding element of the Republican Party, which is significant, is not universal in the Republican Party to this day. Like that is, it's not like a, I don't know, lower taxes versus higher taxes type of thing. I mean, there is a decent amount of disagreement inside the Republican caucus when it comes to that issue.

But I think we're, you know, he's been much more on the hawkish side. I think it's consistent with, I don't know, a pre-Trump Republican position on a lot of those issues. Would you agree? Yeah. I don't think he's Nikki Haley. I don't think he's Nikki Haley. Yeah. I mean, he has warned, let's not put all of our eggs into one basket in Ukraine.

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Let's just be normal for a while, you know? So it feels good. Christmas is coming. And so is the latest effort from my daughter. It's Cheyenne Grace. this is her singing. I'll be home for Christmas with the check

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but they're fantastic and this is all all standards that you'll be able to sing along with and and done in the traditional style. My wife sent me a social media post of you listening, I guess, for the first time, to something, one of the songs and your daughter over your shoulder. Very, very nice.

I like your little relationship with your... I mean, I don't like you, but I like you and your... I like your family. Thank you. You know? Thank you. I don't know how to... There's a warm part I have for your family, and then I think you're involved in the

I don't like it. But generally speaking, no, this is going to be great. It's a great... I still haven't heard it. You haven't sent it to me, obviously. I know. I've got to send it to you. Too much of a hassle for you to actually let me hear it. Yeah.

But what I've heard of it. I did send it to Pat. I just didn't send it to you. It's interesting. Anyway, all right. Let's go back to what we were talking about here a minute ago. And that is some of the picks that Donald Trump is making. He is putting his cabinet together.

And some of the people that he has chosen, you know, I like Marco Rubio. Yeah. don't, I, I, I, I wanted somebody stronger in the Department of State. And here's why. You got to fire everybody for the first two floors. You know, the top two floors, all of them gone. Yeah. All of them. Fire. Bye. Bye. Hey. Hey, what, what floor are you on? I'm on eight. Oh, you're fired. I don't care what you do. You're fired. This is something that, by the way, Donald Trump known for. Yes. In fact, the thing he was most famous for until he got, he became president of the United States. You're fired. I think it's interesting because with Rubio, you think of,

he strikes me as a guy who will competently do this job, right? Like he's probably competently manage the state department. He doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to come out and blow out the first two floors. I know. Yeah, I know. He doesn't strike me as that guy. And that's, that's the problem. I think he could effectively manage the state department. Here's the problem. The State Department, a lot of that is CIA bull crap. A lot of what the State Department does is really not what you think the State Department. Hey, I'm here to make a treaty. I'm here to, no, no, you're not.

It's CIA bull crap. Let the CIA be what the CIA is. And let's get all of these people who think they know better than every president they've ever served. out of there. I want them out of there. They've been there for a hundred years. They keep doing the same bull crap. Hey, let's, you know what we need?

We need a foreign war. That's what we need. You know, I'll tell you what, if we keep the world destabilized, then we're going to be in power. No. No, that doesn't work. That only creates enemies all around the world. Let's be friends to everyone.

unless they're enemies of ours. And if they attack us, bye-bye. Stay out of everybody's business. I don't see Marco Rubio as that guy. Now, that may not be what Trump wants to do. It may be, and he knows something about Marco Rubio that I don't know.

Yeah, and Rubio, I think, has changed a little bit in his policy platform over the years. And I hate to throw him under the bus because I actually, we've definitely not for him a million times and I like him. Yeah, and I don't think, I wouldn't say at all that we're throwing him another bus. I find the pick to be interesting, though. Like, I think it's the type of thing that a old-school Republican who is skeptical of Donald Trump

and afraid he's going to pick crazy people in every role would be calmed by, right? Like, I think you would say, I think a George Bush would be calm by this. Yeah. And I don't like that. I think that if you are a foreign ally, you might look at this and be like, wait a minute, they told us he was going to pick all crazy people. And Marco Rubio is totally an expected type of pick for a Republican president. So I think from that perspective, like that can make you nervous or that can make you hopeful.

I think that, you know, Rubio, and I did look back at his Ukraine funding, by the way. I would say if you follow as a pattern early on, he supported some of the funding and I think became more skeptical of it as it went on. So that's not completely inconsistent with Trump's position. And here's why. I'm protective of Donald Trump. I feel like, no, no, no, please, don't. They might be an enemy of yours. You know what I mean?

Because the last time, he didn't know who to pick. He said, I didn't know who to pick. I had to pick all these people. And I didn't know who. I didn't know the players. You know, and now he still has to pick like 4,000 people. Minimum, the number is probably closer to 20,000. You can't pick that. Make sure the big ones are solid in your camp.

And maybe they are. I don't know. I think Rubio, I mean, look, Rubio was under serious consideration for the vice presidential slot by all reporting. I think he is pretty aligned with Donald Trump. I think he pretty much is. It'll just be interesting to see because these, as we've seen with Trump, at times, these relationships tend to crumble a little bit after a positive start. So I don't know. I don't know if they're so closely aligned. But if you're taking a role like Secretary of State, Glenn, I mean, you know, you are taking a role that is under quite clearly the president of the United States.

Your job is to execute the policy of the president. Uh-huh. Your job is not to go out there with your own views. Uh-huh. I know that. I know you know that. They don't know that. That certainly seems like-

Everybody on the top two floors needs to know that on. their way out with their box of stuff. And you go, oh, why was I fired again? Oh, I thought I knew better than the president. I get it. Well, I guess I'm going back to Omaha. So let me ask you this, Glenn. Yeah.

The Senate Majority Leader. You've got John Thune. You got John Cornyn and Rick Scott. Okay. So that is, that is just, I pray for a quick, death when it comes to Cornyn. I expect death but not to come rapidly. Maybe I have, maybe I have, you know, third stage cancer.

You know what I mean? Just about to go into fourth. Okay. And then I have somebody who I'm like, okay, I might, I might have a cold from time to time. With Scott. Okay. Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I want J.D. Vance. That's who I want. I want the president to say, J.D., here's what you're going to do. You're going to go in and you're going to do what John Adams did. And you're going to sit in that chair and you're going to say, hey, you know what? It's the highest ranking member of the Senate.

That'd be me. So I'm setting the agenda. Now, maybe he will do that if whoever is selected, doesn't play ball. But Donald Trump cannot have anyone, just on the appointments. You know, remember, they'll drag things out and drag things out and drag things out. And then you miss your window of opportunity. Donald Trump right now is saying all of these have to be approved right now. Get this off. You've got to do it in a recess.

Recess appointments, do it. Get it done right now. Yeah. And if they don't, they're going to tie up. all the rest. He's got to have these appointments. It strikes me, and you tell me if I'm reading this situation wrong, it strikes me as Donald Trump thinks getting the recess appointment possibility where he can name all these other people is more important than who the actual Senate Majority Leader is. Yes. And then he's willing

to go with any of them if they'll give him that piece. I think so. And I think if he does not come out and say he wants Rick Scott to get this job, there's no chance of it happening. I think Donald Trump has to actively. I think he's trying to let the system play itself, not create any enemy. I think that's what you're saying, not create any enemies, but I hope he has in his back pocket. You screw with me and I'm sending J.D. Vance in. That's what I'm going to do. Because we have no time.

Remember, 100 days to fundamentally strip all of this stuff out. That's going to be hard. The Democrats right now, they've been working for the last year on trying to figure out how to cement this plan into place that they have. So he's not only got to go find everything that they, every button and lever and everything that they've turned up, turned down, shut off, turned on. he's got to go in there and find all of it and then rip it out. He has a hundred days to get these people in line and working. If he doesn't get that. So he's got to play hardball from the very beginning.

And there's nobody better playing hardball than Donald Trump. And there's nobody better at negotiating. So if he is quiet on the Senate, believe me. He remembers what a pain in the ass Mitch McConnell was. Okay, he knows that. So if he's being quiet, I trust him as a negotiator. He's got these guarantees. He's got something up his sleeve that, oh, you want to screw it with me?

Okay, you go ahead. You go ahead. I'm going to leave you alone. You can do your job. But if you don't follow and get this stuff done, I'm building a building over your house, that kind of thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, because I look, a part of this dance is picking your battles.

Right. And it strikes me. I could be wrong on this. But it strikes me as that Donald Trump has not identified Senate majority leader as a top tier battle for him. I think it. I think it is in hearing him when we're out on the campaign trip. When Rick Scott is not a top tier priority.

So far. I know. I know. But he has said on the campaign trail, I have to have the Senate. I have to have it. We have to get these things through quickly. So it is, I know it is a top priority. So again, my only critique is, what does he know that I don't know?

He's got something up his sleeve. It strikes me as he sees Thune, Cornyn, Scott, whatever. Give me what I want. I can work with any of them. I don't want to sit here and use my capital to pick out of that group. Yes. So just give me what I want and I need out of those guys and I'll work with whoever wants that whoever's going to get it.

So he's doing the carrot right now. Whatever. What's his stick? Yeah. Okay. Because he has a stick. You know he does. All right.

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It makes me, I don't know, feel really good about it. What do you mean? It's almost like behind every good man is a good woman. And now he has a bunch of them behind him. And I think it's a really good choice. Interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. I'm trying to wrap my arms because what you're saying, you know, what I know of you is,

you don't care if it's a man or a woman. You don't care. You're not a feminist like that. It's got to be a woman. Just give me the one who has the best qualifications. Absolutely. The one thing I will say is I don't want a female president ever. Why?

It's so interesting. Because I know what I would do with a nuke button. And I don't think that's a good idea. I swear, the only people who don't want. female presidents are women. I swear. Sarah Gonzalez is of course here at the blaze. This is a very lot. This is like one of the first things she ever said to me when I first met her is that she didn't want a female president. I don't know. I've heard that a lot from women. It's interesting. So I think this is, I think you're right. And he, it's like he's a really bad sexist and Nazi.

He's terrible at it. He's putting all these really strong women in. and Jews. It's like, I don't think Hitler would have done that. I'm just saying. You know, they criticize him all the time for, you know, his business acumen isn't all that it's cracked up to be. And when they say he wants to be Hitler, I will say there is evidence.

He's actually really terrible at being Hitler. If that's what he's trying to do, he is awful at it. You know, he really needs to understand that naming Jews and women to high-level positions is totally dismantling his idea of being Hitler. I know. Why can't he get this? I don't understand.

All right. Florida Michael Waltz, national security advisor. Also, Lee Zeldin to lead the EPA. I like that. I think I like that. I think I like that too, a lot. However, I am worried. Stop picking them from Congress.

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Yeah. Let me say it again. Tariffs. It was actually the original name for the show, working title, was Tariff Toff. But we thought it was too sexy. Yeah, we thought too many people would tune in and go, Too on the nose.

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Now, we got a guy, I think his last name says everything. Peter Senoge, which I believe is French. Sexy, sexy, tax tariff talk. From the Heritage Foundation of Visiting Fellow, we have Peter Sein-Age. How are you, Peter? I appreciate that introduction. Yes, it is. that sexy. Yeah, no, I know. Everybody says it. Everybody says it. So without getting it too steamy in here,

let's go over the tariffs, because I've always been against tariffs. However, I might be wrong. Donald Trump is making a good case when he's talking about getting rid of the income tax, because tariffs will raise the prices of things, especially if he does it the way he's talking about doing it. But if he is getting rid of or lowering the income tax to, you know, 10%, it's such a boon for the economy that we could make up that deficit and become a very powerful nation again. Tell me I'm wrong. That's absolutely correct. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And economists, you know, the vast majority of economists go after tariffs.

They attack Trump over tariffs. and I think they are looking at the trees for the forest here because if you replace a tariff, which is basically a sales tax, but it's one that focuses on imported goods, if you replace that with either reducing or, you know, in our dream scenario, abolishing the entire income tax, is absolutely rocket fuel for the economy. Hold on.

The reason is because... He just said abolish the income tax. I mean, pay attention, Sarah. This is, he just said, abolish income tax. Oh, yeah. All right, go ahead. All right. So you can queue up the background music.

So, yeah, and he actually floated abolishing it with Joe Rogan a couple weeks ago. Mm-hmm. You know, he had been going after he said, no tax on tips, and then no tax on overtime, no tax on first responders, no tax on Social Security. And it was kind of like he was really flirting with just breaking up with the income tax all together. And when he was on there with Rogan, that's exactly what he did. He said, you know, maybe we should go back to the 1800s when, you know, that was before we had an income tax,

it was also before we had a Fed. And back then, the federal government had to live off tariffs. And that was the greatest period, not only of economic growth, but of cultural achievement, it is upset in the 1880s. Single thing. And the key there was that we did not have a regulatory state. We did not have a Fed. So if Trump can take us back there and an 8% sales tax on Chinese stocks, that is the deal of the century. Okay, so let's go over the. Who pays the tariffs, American companies or the foreign country?

Trump's first term, he put tariffs on China and China actually paid about 80% of those. So it would issue subsidies to Chinese exporters so they could maintain market share and keep their prices low. So the Chinese government paid the tariffs. So if he does it again, he's talking about hitting China with something like 60% tariffs and then between a 10% and 20% tariff for everybody else. Now, given Trump's style, he is not going to come in and do that across the board. He's going to come in and use that as a club. Right.

So the Europeans specifically, they act like a fortress. They are brutal to outsiders. If you want to export the Europe, they will, they put you over a barrel. You remember a couple years ago with Brexit? The first thing the European Union did was sat them down and said, nice economy you got here, be a shame of something happened to it. We're going to need a payment from you every single year. It is literally the mafia.

They do that to Norway, Switzerland, all these countries have to fork over billions of dollars to get access to the European market. Now, imagine if we did that. Imagine if we call up Mexico or Canada. And we say, hey, listen, we got this beautiful economy. You guys are selling into it. Here, once you write me a check for $50 billion to keep access, that's exactly what the Europeans do. So the first thing Trump's probably going to do, given what he did last time, is he'll call up Europe and he'll do the exact same thing.

He'll say, you know, I got a 20% tariff burning a hole in my pocket. I need you to do something for some things for me. But anyway, even if he does end up applying those to all foreigners, The Europeans are not going to cover the exporters because they're in a deep fiscal hole. They don't have the money. They're already bankrupt. They're not going to do what China did. But a lot of those tariffs, especially the ones for China, are probably going to keep getting paid by China.

Because exports to America are what they live on. If they lose that, the game's over. And we should not be empowering them, quite honestly. Now, here's why I have possibly turned around. I'm willing to listen to tariff talk. because in my cute little head, I keep thinking that all of the, when you have an extra $20,000 or $30,000 that you're pulling in every year, whatever it is you were paying in income tax and everything goes down that's made here in America. If you're not paying that income tax, you have a lot of extra buying power, which means most Americans will spend that. and we'll grow our economy, which will put more taxes.

Well, we don't have tax, so that wouldn't work. How does it work when you don't have taxes? Go ahead. Yeah, so just kind of running through the numbers. So the first thing that happens is if you get rid of the income tax altogether, so I estimate you get about a 20% jump in incomes in the U.S. So that would be something like $15,000 for typical family. So I switch to get off the bat.

The typical family currently in America pays about 18,000 in income tax. So you save that. And then you knock off about 3,000 for the tariffs. There's a variety of estimates on that, but that seems to be the cluster. So you get a 15,000 raise because the economy is growing faster. You get an 18,000 raise because you don't have to, you know, send your income tax to the government. People don't realize how much they're paying to the government, right? A lot of it is hit.

But any rate, you know, you've got the, you've got the, guy what do they call it withholding. Anyway, so that's 33. And that's all three for the tariffs. You look at a $30,000 raise per year, $2,500 a month. Now, currently, the median American take home is about $58,000, okay, which is about $76 minus the income tax. So you go from taking home 58 to taking home 88, right? That is a massive difference.

So that sort of sets the stage. But the next one happens to exactly what you just mentioned. Hold on. You go from 58 to 88. Oh, yeah. Ding dong, pizza delivery man. Anyway, why is that the part you like so much in his movies? It's interesting what he's excited about.

I don't know. All right, go ahead. All right. I love it. And it's true. I mean, you know, if you're making 88, you can go to Vegas and things happen in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah, right.

Right, creating jobs. That's correct. Yeah, well, and so that's the fun part, right, is you mentioned earlier that if you're not paying income tax, then production in the U.S. is cheaper. So instead of the Chinese stocks coming in, you know, they used to come in for whatever, $6, now they're coming in at $9. Fine, but China's paying for that, so they're probably still coming in at six. But meanwhile, American factories can make socks for less because. they are not paying the income tax. There's a very good chance that we're going to steal a lot of that manufacturing, even if the

Chinese government pays for the tariffs. And that means also because the economy, we're building factories, we're doing things ourselves because we can. Everybody's pay goes up because we need more workers, right? Exactly. Exactly. And then if you do mass deportations, then those jobs will actually go to Americans. So you've got two possibilities.

One of them is that China covers the tariffs, in which case, it's a free lunch for us. You know, China's what, sending us about $500 billion, well, their share would be, let's say, $300 billion. So that would be fantastic. Thank you very much. Or China does not cover the tariffs, in which case Chinese goods are priced out of the market. American goods pay no income tax, so they're cheaper. By the way, every headquarter on Earth would try to move to the United States.

If you're paying no income taxes in the single biggest economy on Earth, Everybody is going to be moving here, including the Chinese companies. So, right, the worst case scenario, the Chinese don't cover it, and then they get out competed and all those jobs come back to America. And if it's only Americans living here, then Americans are going to be swimming in jobs. I mean, this is just, this is big. How, how much? Oh, yeah. I mean, he has only kind of floated this on the Rogan show.

How real do you think this is? because I know he loves tariffs. I know he loves tariffs. He loves tariffs and he hates the income tax. So it's beautiful. It's like a just like the perfect mutant president that we can. Peter, isn't the complication here, though, that he can essentially do what he wants with tariffs,

but he can't do what he wants with the income tax. And that becomes the heavy lift here. Right. So he would need Congress to play ball. on the income tax and Congress is very tight as we're all discussing at the moment there's a ton of rhinos over there so that's going to need you know the the pressure and the passion that people showed during the campaign yeah but millions of americans showed yeah we're going to have to put that on the rhinos yeah i i think that if he did you know a tour even and it was just all about income tax you just have to say to people

you go from 58 to 88 in take home pay, I think a lot of people will be like, you know what? I love that. I agree, but you're not going to get obviously. So in theory, you could put it into a reconciliation bill, right? You could put at least a massive reduction. You couldn't, you know, not a constitutional amendment, unfortunately. That's what I would prefer repealing the 16th. Yeah, me too.

But you could capture Americans' imagination with this. Yeah. I think that's pretty, that would be pretty great. I do think you'd have issues with some of these, as you know, point out rhino-type Republicans that who complain would complain about all sorts of things, including deficit stuff, right? Like they would say, or we're going to lose all this income. All right.

So let me take a break. And then let's talk about the deficit, Peter, all right? Peter Saint-Aug, he is, I'm not going to hold it against him for being French. I mean, somewhere in his past, somebody had sex with a French. Okay. Let's move past that. He's with the Heritage Foundation. He's visiting fellow.

This is definitely the weirdest interview he's ever done. He's regretting every minute of this. He's like, this is the end of my career and my credibility. All right. Relief Factor is our sponsor this half hour. It's time for you to take back your life from the pain that has been keeping you down. You know who you are. You know what you've been fighting.

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900 billion, almost a trillion dollars. But our, we're, spending now. I don't even know how much. Four trillion dollars a year, some crazy number like that. So how do you bridge the gap? Six and a half, yeah. Six and a half. Okay. All right, good. So there's a bit of a gap. There's a five and a half billion dollar, trillion, a trillion dollar gap. Yeah, so income tax itself is taking about two and a half trillion. And then you've got what, you've got payroll, you've got excise, things like gasoline, cigarettes, whatnot. You've got capital gains, corporate income tax.

Those hopefully would be folded into an income tax repeal, those last two. You put it together and you're looking at about $2.4 trillion in lost revenue. And then you've got 900 and tariffs coming in for it. You've got a gap in about 1.5. Now, if the economy grows 20%, then you're going to get. get about 500 billion more from payroll tax and from excise. So you're looking at a net loss of one trillion. Now, I personally would prefer to get rid of the payroll tax as well. Yes.

I see so. It's not as bad as the income tax. Right, because the income tax is on top of it. It also varies with how much you produce. The payroll tax is a flat tax. So, you know, in a perfect world, We're not taxing work at all. We're taxing bad things, not good things. But in the grand scheme, you know, in terms of incentives, get re-income tax first. And then we can have the next conversation, which would be getting into the payroll tax. So we just go to the income tax.

We're talking about 2.4 net of the tariffs, net of the economic growth. You're talking $1 trillion. So you'd be cutting $1 trillion out of a budget of about $6.5. Now, Elon is, you know, he's talking about Doge, his department, government efficiency and he's floating two trillion. So I haven't seen the math on those. I don't know where that's coming from. I agree wholeheartedly. I'm certain that we can cut much more than that. The easy part is just cutting out the parts of the military that invade foreign country. So bring them home, put them on the border, put them in the Coast Guard, convert the Navy ships

and the Coast Guard ships that patrol our waters, stop invading other countries. That'd be a very easy 800 billion. If we look at countries like Japan or UK, which have, you know, the UK has a functioning military, it's got a coast card, although it doesn't use it, it's got nuclear weapons, it's got the whole kit, and they spend less than 100 billion. So that's very easy. Of course, you can cut welfare for able-bodied people, which, you know, the government tries very, very hard to hide how much it spends on welfare, but it's easily over a trillion. The cost of illegals themselves, which very conservatively is about 150 billion year, maybe closer to 300 billion by some estimates,

because again, they're trying to hide the costs. Pharmaceutical, right, there is a, that's going to be coming into focus with RFK here, but there is a ton of waste and corruption in pharmaceutical payments. Those are something like 20% of our economy. So you can go through those, but really, you know, if you sort of zoom out, you're very familiar with the 10th Amendment,

there are precisely four agencies that are authorized, right? State Justice, Defense Treasury with post offices. And so strictly speaking, if we had a Supreme Court that actually read the common sense language in the 10th Amendment, almost the entire thing is gone. You would slash everything. Personally, I would keep Social Security and Medicare because they've already been paid for, sure that people are protected. Everything they do, these, from DEI to just,

unconstitutional. You slash that down and you are, gosh, you're probably more than $3 trillion down. So do you think we have a shot at doing that? Is he putting the team in around him to do something like this? So the closest we have, I follow Polly Market very closely. They've got odds on pretty much everything out there. And the sort of tip of the spear on income tax repeal is starting with tax on tips, right? That was the one that he most clearly promised. and so that's kind of a proxy for whether, you know, we're going to start hacking away at the income tax. So tax on tips is currently running 38% on polymarket. That's the number I'm watching. That's encouraging because it means it's not just talk that, you know, people with capital behind them believe it's real.

But for sure, Congress is going to have to play ball if we're going to get a big. Yeah. Thank you so much, Peter. We'll have you on again. Great explanation of this. Peter Saint-Aug, he is with the Heritage Foundation. You can follow him at peter sanage.com. Good luck spelling aange.

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I've already decorated my Christmas tree. I can't wait for Christmas. And we have a Christmas album coming out, and it has all of the Christmas standards on it. You're going to love it. It is Chey and Grace. That is my daughter. You know? But I will tell you, I was, I told her, I am not going to put an album,

for sale on my show if it sucks. I'm sure I'm into nepotism but good nepotism. You have to earn it. So it's really good. So it comes out in a couple of weeks. We'll let you know. Maybe as early as next week you'll be able to get it.

Most producers are able to know the release date of the album. I know. I know. I was a little busy. Not really. It was a little busy. So we were talking about the average person's take home pay going from 58,000 to 88,000. Oh, yeah.

What is this music? What is this music? Is this supposed to be like 70s porn music? I do. Yeah. There's no women singing in 70s porn music. Are you hearing the women? Oh, there it is.

Yeah. Well, I don't know. We're... I'm not up on my 70s porn music. You've never heard a parody of a... In fact, I have. I thought this was pretty close, but... It's not, no.

What is this? What is she singing about, Sarah? She's just singing. All right, stop. So, Stu, of course, is a little black rain cloud on the 58,000. The average person's take-home pay, 58,000 to 88,000. Okay. Let me just lay this out briefly.

All right, go ahead. I like going from 58,000 to 88,000 dollars. You do like it. Good. I'm very much. He wants it. I am. Look at the way he's dressed.

I hate. Stu does merch.com has mugs that say repeal the 16th Amendment. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm for it.

I am for it. Yeah. I, if, if you can do the three things needed in this plan. One, eliminate the income tax. Yeah, I think you could do that. Two, cut spending by multiple trillions of dollars. I think you might be able to do that. You do those things.

You can have any tariff you want. I'm fine. I don't like tariffs at all. And I would be completely for eliminating all of them. Right. However, if you can do all that, I'm completely fine with whatever. You can put one trillion percent tariffs on Chinese, whatever goods, whatever you want. Right.

I'm fine with it. If you can do those other two things. I'm, can we be honest about this? isn't it a bit of a fantasy to get those two things done? I want these things to... Lots of things are fantasies to until they come true.

I was surprised that never thought it happened to me. Oh, Mr. He doesn't know porn. He knows all the tropes. It's interesting how you can just immediately go into the exact porn. Hey, the pizza delivery guy, the thing he brought up over and over again. Apparently his favorite part of all the movies

is when the pizza shows up. What a surprise. eyes. He stops there. He doesn't even make it to the sex. He stops at the pizza. That's exactly right. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Can you put the camera back on the pizza? What's happening? That looked good. All right, anyway. But I mean, come on. Do we really... May I say three words to you? What I'm concerned about here,

two words, two letters. May I just say? Yeah. Roe versus Wade. I would have said the exact same thing about versus Wade being overturned. Let me give you two other words. That's true.

Three words. President Donald Trump. I would have also told you that would not occur in 2015. I would have said that. So it's, so look, miracles happen. Yeah. I agree with that. And maybe you could.

But it does to me, noting my experience of the past 40 plus years of life seems highly, highly suspect that those two things. will get done. Have the feeling that the world's changed. Mm-hmm. And everything that we've known from experience should go, bye-bye. I like your world better than my world. I want to make sure I'm clear on that.

But, like, what I'm concerned about here is that you need, like, I would be surprised if they can't get a tax cut done. They'll get something done on taxes. They get a reconciliation bill. They get one shot at that. They have 50, they were going to have 53 senators. Part do you not think the American people will embrace 58,000 to 88,000 in take-home pay?

I think they'll like that. They will love that. What they will not like is hearing about all the programs that will go away. And all the single... And all you'll have to say is $58,000 to $88,000. And yes, I'm sure, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and a bunch of other rhino senators will go along with it. If people stand up the way they've stood up, this is a positive thing to rally about.

I agree. You don't think there would be marches all over. You don't think he would just pack people by the buttload into stadiums across and just say, call your congressman, call your senator. He would be able to rally American people like nobody's, nobody else. I mean, look, you need, what, 80%? you need, what is the percentage you need to cut the federal budget? What do you mean?

Cut the federal budget. For instance, Calvin Coolidge did this. He cut the federal budget by 50%. Yes. And then he cut the budget again by 50%. Incredible. And he lowered the income tax from like 95 to like 5%. You don't have to sell me on the Calvin Coolidge presidency.

I love Calvin Coolidge. What do you? I don't... You know, what do you need to... It's not like, yeah... Who is listening to this show? I don't know. You don't have to sell me on Calvin Coolidge.

Oh, yeah. Talk some more, Calvin Coolidge. Is that before, day after the pizza shows up? Oh, my gosh. What a nerd program this is today. I would love Calvin Coolidge to come back to life and his policies to be passed. But that's all that Donald Trump is saying. Let's do Calvin Coolidge.

That gave a... It was hard to... Calvin Coolidge is known as a great president to conservatives because he accomplished something very difficult. You know why he did? And I'm acknowledging that this is difficult. Do you know why he did? Because Woodrow Wilson, the progressive, just started gobbling everything up and everybody went, I don't want that.

That was the uniqueness of Calvin Coolidge. He was put into a situation where they skis. scared the hell out of every American. And they were like, okay, this isn't going to work. I don't like that. And that's why he put that in, why he was able to put that in. I like, by the way, let me just say, the roaring 20s. Yes.

At the beginning, nobody had a telephone, refrigeration, electricity. By 1930, almost everybody had that. I'll note, we're currently in the 20s. It would be a nice little retro thing to have. another roaring 20s. It would be a great way to kick it off. I am, of course, support these ideas. You know, and I think it's better than previous approaches, right?

Where previously it was like, well, what if we only increase the budget by 1% a year? And in 10 years, we would be able to balance the budget. Like those type of approaches, which are kind of technically maybe accurate, they don't inspire anybody. There's no excitement behind that. This is what I've been asking for. 2010, who is stepping up with a moonshot idea? Yeah.

Who is stepping up. And Donald Trump is. He's stepping up and saying, see that space that everybody says we can't get to. We're going there. I like it. I like it. I want it to happen. I'm a bit skeptical that it can.

But hey, I've been totally skeptical that it will occur. Right. And I'm concerned because, look, we know that Donald Trump likes tariffs. I am not a tariff guy. and but the problem is like you have two very difficult things to do which is cut multiple trillions of dollars from a budget which there's been no appetite. By the way, we should also note here that Donald Trump ran on multiple times not digging in to massive programs that are the massive major cause of our debt. Things like Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid. He doesn't want to touch those programs, which is okay.

I mean, he won the election on it. I get it. But like you can't cut 70%, 75% of your budget unless you touch those programs. So wait. What do you say about this? What do you say if Donald Trump proposes anyone making under $100,000 a year and we're not going to combine salaries? If you're married, we're not going to punish you with a combined income. So 50K a person.

50K a person, 58K, you know, is the average salary, 58K,000? you know, times two. We're only going to count. We're going to count both of you under 100,000. You pay zero income tax. Everybody above them pays a flat tax of 15%. Every, yeah. Thank you, Sarah.

Everybody wins in that. Everybody wins. I love it. I love it. First of all, you knew what the media is going to do with that claim. Who cares? The media doesn't matter anymore. I think there's something to that, but I think there would be a lot of, it would be difficult for a lot of these, let's say, purple state, purple district representatives to go along with such things when their programs are being cut. But okay, all right, we go through that process and we do that.

You know, I don't see how you cut the trillions of dollars out of the budget without touching the programs that Donald Trump has promised not to touch. So that would be a difficult thing to deal with. And second, beyond that, he can just do the tariffs. And the problem with the tariffs are, if you go through this Fantasy League situation where all of this comes true and all of our wildest dreams are here, and now you're depending on tariffs to fund the government, that's fantastic, except for the fact that if the tariffs work and we move all of our manufacturing back to America, there's no one paying tariffs anymore. So then you have no income there either. So now you're cutting another 75% off, which again, I'm here. probably fine with, but I don't know that America is. This is the reason why I want tariffs and I'm for tariffs in the first place.

We've got to build our manufacturing base back. So if you just go, let's say you say you say you pay tariffs, you pay nothing here if you make it here, everybody moves back. You give them a 15% income tax when the tariffs don't work anymore. They're not going anywhere because nobody's offering a 15%. corporate tax. Nobody. So you're then reinstituting the theory. You address that when you get there. And probably the answer to all of this is there are less extreme options that sort of balance

each other out. Yeah, I don't really like that. I don't either. I don't really like that. We're not going to move all of our manufacturing back. Like, obviously. And nor that would that even be a good thing, frankly. I mean, like, if anything, we've learned that maybe having diversity of where places are,

where things are made is probably a good thing, right? Because if we get a bad precedent here that says, hey, I'm going to shut down this industry because I don't like it, we want to make sure that stuff is still being made somewhere in the world. Because Donald Trump will not be president forever. Think of that statement. Yeah. You have to.

No one in their right mind 25 years ago, 30 years ago, any time in America would have said, well, except for prohibition, when the progressives were doing it. Yeah. Nobody would have ever said, well, they're going to destroy this industry. They're just going to destroy it. Nobody, you didn't have that fear of the government.

You shouldn't have that fear. It's crazy. But I do have that fear. I know. That's why I worry about all this stuff whenever. That's why this stuff has to be passed into law. Yes, not just executive order. All right, back in just a second.

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This is from CBS News. On the campaign trail, President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly promised to launch what he calls the largest deportation operation in American history, targeting undocumented immigrants. By the way, there are roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants living in this country today. And the CBS News analysis found it would cost up to $216 billion over Trump's next term to deport them on. all. Just to break that down, that's $54 billion per year. Oh, no. He spent that in toilet paper. ...allocation for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement was just $9 billion.

But beyond the price tag, the bigger question is, how exactly would these mass deportations work? Trump has said he'll deploy the National Guard to detain undocumented immigrants, tap into local law enforcement to keep track of them, and ramp up workplace raids. He has pledged to invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1790s. which allows the president to detain and remove immigrants during wartime. The last time it was used was during World War II for the internment of Japanese Americans. By who? By who? Of course, Congress later apologized and provided reparations for Japanese internment. What was the action that they were?

Acknowledging that it was rooted in racial prejudice. Right. By who? That's it. By who? They never mentioned that. Yeah, they just name him the best president of all time. You know, Donald Trump needs to have, needs to not take credit for this one thing. being the biggest, even though I think it will be the biggest. He needs to say, how are we doing this? Exactly the way Bill Clinton did this. He deported 11 million people in eight years.

And nobody said a word. Most people don't even know. Bill Clinton deported more people in the United States than any other president by far. And nobody said anything then. Why are we talking about this now? You know how I'm going to do it? Exactly the way Bill Clinton did it. I'm just going to take the recipe from the Democratic Party.

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He's going to give them those positions. Also, you know, he hates minorities. He hates the brown folks so much that he's going to make Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, which he would then be the highest position Hispanic in the U.S. government. I'm just saying that's how much he hates. Man, is he a bad Hitler? More in just a second. First, let me tell you about relief factor.

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Yeah, yeah. I love, I love this week. Last week was great. This week's shaping up to be another great week. Today's one week since the election. Oh, darn. I think about that week and all the wonderful things that have happened. There's a lot to be thankful for as we approach Thanksgiving.

If I had to ask you, Stu, what is the thing that you are most grateful for? I think the thing I'm most grateful for, Glenn, is the fact that the thing that really really cost Kamala Harris the election. Yeah. Was the view. I freaking love it. I think that's absolutely true as well. You remember, it was on the view where they said, what would you change?

I don't think anything. You know, I just, it was perfect. I don't, would you, everybody, every woman at home was like, oh, my God. She doesn't go to the grocery store. It's fantastic. Yeah. How many times, Glenn, we sit on here yelling about the one question with the somebody needs to ask.

Right. Is what give me one single example of something you would change, something you oppose, something you went to Biden and said, hey, you've got to change this man, and he wouldn't do it. We didn't think there would be a reporter in the world that would ask her that question. Do you remember when it happened? We were live on the air when it happened. And I was shocked. Yeah.

the one person who finally stepped up with the correct question, the most basic, obvious question that needed to be asked to Kamala Harris, was somebody on the view. I don't remember who it was. Was it Sunny? I don't even remember who it was. I don't remember all their names. But, like, it was incredible. Right. And so really, like, this went immediately into Trump ad after Trump ad, after Trump ad, after Trump ad. And I think arguably was the difference. It was at least a key thing because they tried to hide that fact for a long time. She's the change candidate. We talked about this on and off the air. How can you convince the American people that the vice president of the United States is not the change candidate?

Why isn't this working? This should be obvious. And what we came down to was someone needs to get her on the record saying what she would change. And the answer was she couldn't think of anything. After having three months to prepare for that question, she had nothing. And what's interesting about this, and one of the, I think the, I think the truth of that moment is the left-leaning media ecosphere all knew what they had to do. They all understood their role here. They all knew, just like I know, just like you know, just like everybody in the office.

audience knows, Kamala Harris has absolutely no ability whatsoever to think on her feet. They all knew that. They all were 100% in on the same information that any human being should be able to suss out from watching her for 10 seconds. She can't do this. So they very carefully catered and tailored their interviews to make sure she would never be put in that position. They were very, very careful with what they asked her, how they asked her the questions. When they asked difficult questions, quote unquote, difficult questions, they would provide answers in the questions so that she could latch on to what they said and she could just go along with it.

They did everything they could to massage those interviews to get her through her weak points. They knew where her weak points were. And while the left is wrong on a lot of things, they're not idiots. The problem is the view are idiots. Every single person on the cast is a moron. And those people, those idiots, didn't understand the game. They were so stupid. They thought the pitch of Kamala Harris as this strong, independent, brilliant woman was real. They thought to themselves, oh, we can ask that question.

That's an easy question. Of course she'll have an answer for it. If you were asking a hard question and you're the view and you want that candidate to win, you'd say, I'm going to ask you a hard question, you know, you might want to think about, you know, what you would do differently. Yeah. And then you would ask that question. They would leak it to them in advance. Yes.

Off record. One way or another. That's what they did with the debates. I mean, why not the view? That's how stupid they are. They actually thought she'd be able to answer that. Yeah. And can you imagine how all of their hearts sunk when she said, really nothing?

They all must have gone, oh, dear God, I'm stupid, but not that stupid. And then when they saw their stupid faces in tens of millions of dollars of ads against their candidate, when they're telling everybody in their, all this is going to be Hitler, the reason Adolf is in power is you, dummy. I love every bit of this. I really wish I had Elon Musk money because I would just do an ad. I'd buy up every single ad on ABC that hour.

for, you know, for weeks, just gloating. Hey, you know those women on the couch? Boy, they're brilliant. Oh. Whatever campaign money Donald Trump has, right? Oh, my gosh. They should do a giant thank you to the women of the view for their role in getting Donald Trump elected.

I love this narrative. By the way, I'm not the only person thinking. James Carville came out in an interview and said that was the key moment in the campaign. the big mistake she made was not having an answer to that question. And it was the view. How did you not have an answer? It's incredible.

Because, I guess, because she really was going to do the same thing. And it wasn't her doing it. It was whoever is running this country right now. You know, whoever the president is, whether that's Barack Obama or a committee and a star champ, I don't know who actually is running the place. but she was like, well, I'm just going to keep doing what, you know, what we're doing now. I mean, this is a great plan. And she didn't, she really.

I mean, she is, you'd think she's aware enough to know that's a problem. I mean, if you watch her ads, though, I think she did. She said stuff like she was going to be tough on the border. Those were written for her. They were. But she knows the approach. She knows that what they were trying to do. The reason why she wasn't doing interview after interview after.

interview at the beginning is she knew her own weakness. She knew that this is, this was the... She thinks she's in a friendly room. Right. And she is in a friendly room. Yes. But the friendly room is dumb. It's a bunch of dumb idiots.

You know. Who don't know the game. They don't understand it. They are, they are the victims of the Democrats here. So, because the Democrats and in Kamala campaign, tried to manipulate their dumb voters into who thinking, actually, she's tough on the border. Actually, she's really smart. Actually, she's a strong, tough woman.

All the dumb things. But what they didn't realize is the view is their dumb. They are the dumb voters. They're the victims. They're the people falling for your messaging, not helping you along with it. They're morons. And they all fell for it. And they sunk the campaign.

And I love it so much. I can't even describe how much I love it. I love the fact that Joy Behar is in the middle of getting Adolf Hitler, quote unquote, elected. It's so amazing. I don't think it could have come out any better. Do you know why people are so stupid? No, seriously, why they're so stupid on the other side?

Because they haven't had themselves thrown up against the wall for the last 20 years. Nobody has thrown them up against the wall. Nobody has challenged them in any real way. because they've controlled all of the institutions, and so they knew, well, it's on my orange man bad. And you'd get an honorary doctorate from Yale. And your dumb audience will clap for you. Correct.

And everybody just keeps, because you're not challenged, you don't have a chance to actually in your own head fight that battle. You're not thinking about, well, what happens if I say that? If I say that, then this is going to happen and this is going to happen because you're protected by everybody in these institutions. They didn't realize those institutions were over. They were over. They were so bloated, so fat, so arrogant because no one's challenged them. They just were living in their own little dummy bubble.

and when all of a sudden Joe Rogan comes up and he's like, yeah, I got 100 million people watching this. And they're like, well, we got 20 million to watch a debate, which everybody in America was supposed to watch. It's over. It's over. It's fantastic. It's really a legitimately positive. But watch what they're doing now. They're not going to get smarter because there's no honest questioning even now. they're still in the same bucket going, you know what?

They're Nazis. They're just all Nazis. Half the country is a Nazi. What it's been is essentially to expand the accusations of racism and sexism to Hispanics and black people. Yes. Right now they're racist. You're running out of people to call racist.

You're running out of people. And people have pointed this out a few times over the past couple weeks, but there was this big piece. I was Matthew Iglesias who wrote it. Somebody wrote it about how, like, like, hey, you know, the left missed essentially this giant shift into what people care about, the podcast world and those types of things, those types of audiences. And the right essentially successfully built some level of ecosphere outside of just talk

radio with podcasters, people like Joe Rogan. And one of the answers to this was, hey, like, well, we need to come up with our own left-leaning Joe Rogan. And people pointed out, though, guess who? that was. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was the left-leaning Joe Rogan until you people all went insane. He was endorsing Bernie Sanders for president. And what did they do when he did that? They bashed Bernie Sanders and said the correct response to Joe Rogan is to ostracize him because he says things that are mean sometimes. And they attacked him and they wouldn't go back on his shows. And people who did

go on his shows, got ostracized. And they did this so consistently and went so insane with things like, you know, women playing or men playing in girls sports and all this. And he's taken horse medicine. And horse medicine and all this stuff, they went so insane. They turned their left-leaning Joe Rogan into right-leaning Joe Rogan. And they turned left-leaning Elon Musk into right-leaning Elon Musk. They did this to themselves.

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Here's the view discovering that, God three. You know, a lot of people thought that when he talked about mass deportations, he wasn't being serious. I don't know how many times he had to say it. for people to realize he was being serious. Well, if you thought he wasn't being serious, the appointment of Tom Homan today as border saw,

and he will be in charge of a mass deportation program, the largest the country has ever seen, they say. And now Stephen Miller, as Deputy Chief of Staff, should let you know that he was absolutely serious. And when you talk about mass deportations, people think, oh, it's just going to be the criminals. There's not enough criminals, aliens, in the federal prison system

for it to be mass deportations. What it means is grandmothers. What it means is brothers and aunts. What it means is abuelos and alas. It means dreamers. It means your family members. It means your colleagues. It means your friends.

It means people who are part of the society. And look, America, you know, those of you who voted for Trump, this is what you wanted. This is what you voted for. You screwed around and you're about to find No, we're not. We didn't screw around. We're all for that. We're all for that. You're here legally.

I love you. You be my friend, my neighbor, anything. If you're here illegally, you can go out and then come back in legally. You're going to be put to the back of the line, but you can do that. I'm fine with that. I have no problem. I have a problem with an open border where we don't know who anybody is. And if you're here illegally, bye-bye. And by the way, stop this crap. You don't know what it's going to be like. You have no idea. Bill Clinton is the president who deported more people than anyone, any other president by far. And he deported 11 million illegals. So I don't remember the 90s being internment camps. Do you remember that?

Back the Democrats supported those policies at the time. You're already seeing it. People are already leaving. The people in Mexico, remember there were 150,000. in Mexico that the Mexicans had held back because the Biden administration said don't let them cross, hold them until the election and then they can cross.

Most of those people turned around and went away because they realized, oh, I'm not going in now. I'm going to be shipped back. Hello. That's how it works. Yeah, when you don't put up a giant sign that says

please come here. Yes. Generally speaking, are going to solve a decent portion of the problem. It takes more than just tone. But I mean, we saw this at the beginning of the Trump administration. When the tone was right, people just decided they didn't want to come. And look, I love this pitch here of like, can you, these are, we're talking about grandmas. Have grandmas broken the law? Grandmas that break the law get treated like regular, you know, grandsons that break the law. It doesn't matter what your title is. Are you here illegally? If you're here illegally, you shouldn't

be here. this is this is a basic concept it doesn't matter what you know what what what level of maternity or paternity you've found yourself in the bottom line is if you've broken the law by coming here then yes you do need to leave and yes he was serious about that I don't think anybody was downplaying how serious he was about picking people out you didn't take seriously well then you were a moron which makes sense because you're watching the view by the way let me play this this is CNN's fear of Elon Musk. Listen to this. Marlago has basically been brimming for the last two days, I'm told, with two kinds of people.

Those angling for a job and those who are trying to influence Trump into hiring their picks. But one person has loomed over all of that. His name is Elon Musk. Oh, my. Multiple sources tell me tonight that Musk has been seen at Mar-a-Lago nearly every single day since Donald Trump won. Oh, no. Dining with him on the patio at times. Today, they were seen on the golf course together. Musk has been in the room when world leaders have called Trump.

And tonight we've learned he's also weighing in on staffing decisions, making clear his preference for certain roles even. Publicly, tonight, Elon Musk is backing Florida Senator Rick Scott as the next leader of the Republican conference to replace Mitch McConnell. Which he didn't get it. While Musk himself is still not expected to take any kind of formal position inside Trump's administration, given how complicated it would be with his companies, what's becoming clearer tonight is that he'd doesn't really need to, with one source telling me, Elon Musk is having just as much influence from the outside. Wow, how bad is that? The Edison of our time is trying to help the president recreate the golden era that Edison benefited

from, and so did all of us. Wow, that's a problem. Not Elon Musk. not a guy who I disagree with a lot on some things and agree with a lot on some things. Probably one of the more reasonable billionaires out there. Yeah, sucks. I'm glad he's there.

I'm glad he's there. And it's not being hidden. Donald Trump is not having secret meetings. You know, it's open for everybody to see. He shouldn't be ashamed of that. relationship and Elon Musk, I mean, he just doesn't care and neither does Donald Trump. You know what is a really great feeling? Talking a bunch of crap to the guys about being a great shot and then actually being a

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There are so many good things that have happened. We have some good appointments going on. We, I think, have, we've restored our confidence in the election process. I mean, unless you listen to these cooks on the other side that are now just making stuff up, we had enough Republicans there, and they had enough Democrats there with attorneys to be able to stop any cheating either way. It's not the best system, but at least we have confidence in the system. I think that is fantastic. We also learned how to play the game a little better. You know, we sucked at getting the vote out. Not anymore. Moms for Liberty is one of those organizations

that really worked miracles. Tina Descovic is with us now. She's the co-founder of Moms for Liberty. Hi, Tina. Good morning, Glenn. How are you? I'm fabulous. How are you? I'm really good. You've been spending some time down in Marlago. Yes, I'll be there again this week.

And how is the president? You know, he's fabulous. I know, I know. So let's talk a little bit about the election wins that you guys helped come true. Yeah, it's really remarkable. You know, Moms for Liberty, most of us just moms haven't really been involved in politics before or elections. And so we took a big risk this year, I would say, and invested $3 million in Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Wisconsin. And we put the money behind our moms.

And to see what they could do, we targeted 200,000 moms in each day that aren't really voting. They voted maybe once, maybe not at all in the last four years. And we spent six months courting them. sending them videos and information on the Title IX rewrite, on things going on in their local school districts that would enrage any parent that's paying attention. And then for the last two months before the election, we worked to turn them out.

And the results so far are remarkable. It's almost shocking. For example, in Georgia, they broke records, I think, with 73% voter turnout overall. And our early vote turnout alone of those 200,000 moms, was 75%. So we don't even have a day of election results yet. So we know we activated brand new voters across all four states. It's remarkable. So you invested $3 million in your get out the vote effort, just in Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, and Wisconsin. Which state do you think you had the

bigger impact in? Or were you worried most about? I think we had the biggest impact in probably two states. I would say Georgia and I'd say Georgia and North Carolina, Arizona being very close in third place. Wisconsin, it's still hard to gauge. There wasn't as long of an early voting period and a male voting period. And so we still beat the state average before election day even started with our early voting, but it was down by 40, you know, I think

46 percent we had of our non-voters. Plus, their voter records in Wisconsin are terrible. People, we know people that left the state three years ago that were still registered there actively to vote well registered in other states. And so it's a little harder to track in Wisconsin. So tell me your feeling on Trump actually getting rid of the Department of Education. We're pretty excited around here. You know, mom's really ready was founded to get education back front and center in the

conversation both locally and nationally. You know, year after year, we were watching presidential debates where education wasn't even discussed. And, you know, it's been in decline since the Department of Education was created, you know, two-thirds of American kids can't read on grade level, lowest math and reading scores in the history of the United States. And so the only solution is to dismantle the Department of Education. If you're watching on X in other places, the president is putting out his videos, directly speaking to the American people saying it's time to dismantle. and put education. I do want to say, Glenn, though, I was even at church on Sunday, and people were pulling, no, you can't really dismantle the Department of Education. What will kids do? What about

education? I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand. It belongs with the states. It belongs locally. It belongs with the parents. And so I think we have to educate America on what this really means. It is a good thing for our country and our kids. So let me give you something from the Washington Post in 1978, okay? A Department of Education was the op-ed, with a question mark. It didn't exactly come as an earth-shaking surprise that President Carter last Friday asked Congress to create a Department of Education.

The creation of such a department, separate from Hugh Hew, Hew, was explicit Carter campaign pledge, blah, blah, blah. It goes into all of this stuff, and it said, let's go back for a moment to the argument about zooming into the stratosphere budget. After all, the same argument can be made

about the various armed services that were gathered into the Defense Department. They also talk about the Labor Department, the Commerce Department. We don't cite the labor and commerce departments casually to the extent that they are basically one constituency organizations of government. They provide another cautionary note. One of the principal risks of creating a creature of its clientele. The clientele would not necessarily be the schoolchildren and their parents affected by the federal government's education programs, much more probably would be the National Education

Association, the organizations of teachers and school administrators who already exert a great deal of influence on education policy in Washington. In a way, this would be giving them their own department. So here's the Washington Post in 1978 saying this is going to create a problem with the labor unions. They're going to take over. and this is only to benefit them, not the kids. Now the Washington Post would say the opposite,

but what they predicted back then came true. 100%. Just look at the photographs of Randy Weingarten, other teachers, union leaders at the White House all the time, hug in the neck of Jill Biden and Joe Biden. They are fierce allies. 99% of the funds that they donate to candidates. Go to Democrats coming out of the NAA.

You know, you can trick all of them. that. It's really disgusting. It is a department of the teacher's union, and it's not acceptable. I mean, like I said, you know, kids can't read, kids can't do math, and it's time to dismantle it and return it where it needs to go. So you've decided, as Moms for Liberty, to launch your own book series and try to get these into the schools. Your first one launches this week, and it's Libby Justice goes to Williamsburg. Tell me about it. Oh, we are so excited.

So Tiffany, my co-founder, her last name is Justice. And so Liberty Justice is the perfect name for our main character. Her brother is Link, Lincoln. We named him after my first grandson. His name is Lincoln. And these two go on adventures. And Glenn, we need quality literature so bad for our children. And the first one they go to is Williamsburg, Virginia.

And she learned how to public speak from Patrick Henry and Gowland Pamphlet. And if you don't know who he is, you need to buy our book, because he's a historical figure right there in Virginia also. We are very excited. We're hoping this will be a series of many books and will be in link travel around with their family to other historical sites and learn about the patriots and the founders of our country and have respect for them as the heroes that they are.

I mean, in that, I'm calling the Trump fireside chats where he's explaining everything that he is going to do, he talks about this, that we have to bring under control our education. education system. So we learn about our founding again. We learn about the principles of who we were, not just all this DEI crap. That's got to go. I think we're, I think we are entering a new golden age of America. If, if we remain calm and, uh, well thought out and well prepared for what the left is going to do. And we stay focused on the things that are important. Don't get, as my mom would say, too big for our britches.

Yes. You know, it's important that we stay focused on God in our country and our families and don't let power or success or control of all three branches of government go to our head. You know, I don't, I'm optimistically cautious, but I think it's important that we put the important things first. Tina, thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you, Glenn.

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Listen Hey Oprah, good morning How are you darling? You're looking very good How do you think the election went? Not talking about the election, thank you very much Oh, is it true that they paid you a million dollars For the endorsement for Kamala?

Not true. Not true, okay I was paid nothing ever Okay, so she was paid She looks great, that you It looks like I think most people look like when they just rolled out of bed and don't expect a camera on their face. Yeah. It's kind of really unfair to do this as people.

Totally. But so she was just asked, were you paid? Because it looks as though Harpo was paid a million dollars to produce that crappy thing that did nothing. And I don't know. I'm not an attorney, but she might have had to have been paid. So if she hasn't been paid, well, then you might, it might be a contribution in kind. Right. So the way that campaign finance law works, like, it's not her saying you need to pay me a million

dollars for an appearance. Supposedly, at least the accusation is that her company produced it. And you might say, well, they should have just taken zero dollars if they really cared. But they can't take zero dollars. They supposedly have to charge a market rate for, what they're doing because if not, then it's essentially a donation. So they would have, every campaign would find ways around this, right? You can't, you can only give a certain amount to a campaign. Well, what if, uh, I give you a stadium for free? I own a stadium. I'm giving

you a stadium for free. Well, that would be a donation to the campaign. They're getting something that should cost the money that doesn't. So in theory, if she actually produced this event, she would need to charge. Now, I don't know, does she need to charge a million dollars? Maybe she could have charged less. At the other side of this, too, is Oprah's a billionaire. Does she really care about a million dollar paint? Like, I think she would, she probably donated a fortune to Super PACs, probably much more than a million dollars.

So I don't know. I'm not saying that these people aren't selfish and terrible in many, many ways, but it seems odd that she would do that. It seems like, yeah, because she did, I mean, she just didn't. She doesn't need the money. No, she's got plenty of cash. Now, there's something interesting that I found that, you know, they blew a, billion six. They're now saying it was a billion six. Oh, wow. You're saying on the campaign?

Uh-huh. A billion six. In what, four months? Yeah. So that's what they had in the Harris Victory Fund. It's all gone. They're still missing 20 million. They're in the whole 20 million. And they're sending an email to donors now. And listen to this. I think this is hysterical. Is there anything we can say to convince you to make a contribution to support the Harris Fight Fund program today? Does that not sound desperate? Is there anything we can say to you? These fundraising emails are pathetic. First and foremost, we want to acknowledge the fear, confusion, and sadness many of you are feeling at this moment. But would you give a minimum of $50? But what if we told you that as you read this, there are U.S. Senate and House races that are either too close to call or within the

margin of recounts for certain legal challenges? What if we told you that they all need our help to get across the finish line. And what if we told you that your support today would help make sure we succeed and count every vote in these final races? They're still lying. They're trying to make up the $20 million and they don't have it. Remember the last time in 2016, no, sorry, 2012, Obama went into the hole. And why did the DNC suddenly throw their weight behind?

Hillary instead of Bernie because the Clintons bailed them out with like $20 million. The Clintons gave it to them. So she had them in her control. Now they're $20 million in the whole. After $1.6 billion. And the nerve of the people on the left,

they're saying, Donald Trump, he's got all this money left over. You can't, we got about that because he's just going to give it to all of his friends. What? He's going to give it to it. No, that's what you do. That's what you do. They're just projecting.

They said that about the green energy stuff too. We've got to spend this quickly. Otherwise, he'll just assign all of this money and give it to his pals. Again, that's what you do. How about not spending it? Yeah. How about that? We're multiple trillions of dollars.

and debt, maybe... Apply it right to the debt. I mean, that's one way to do it, right? You know, of course, a lot of this money probably was just printed. You'd be just returning it to whoever created it. To the incinerator. Right. But it would be better. And that was, that's true. A lot of these programs would just be better off if you just threw them in the incinerator.

If you just threw the money in the incinerator rather than locking in these programs for years and years and years and years. Which is an incredible admission. Because at the end of the day, these programs do basically. no good, and then we get locked into them and have to keep spending at those levels, which brings me back to my skepticism on this government. What if we told you that Mussolini was coming back from the dead and was going to be his new vice vice president? Uh-oh.

Would you donate then? Program.