The Glenn Beck Program - 'Hyping Up the Hysteria' - 7/3/18

Episode Date: July 3, 2018

Hour 1 Pat Gray and Stu in for Glenn...President Trump is interviewing potential Justices for the Supreme Court...We're going to need a SCOTUS 'cheat sheet' to keep up with all of this...A 4th of J...uly attack in the U.S. has been prevented!...There seems to be an 'issue' with people of faith?...The 'Word' with Nancy Pelosi...Are politicians 'playing the faith card as a means of manipulation?...Since when did we quit caring about our constitution?    Hour 2  Where did our Constitution come from?...Can you respect a person, like Bernie Sanders, who is honest with where they stand politically?...Hyping up the hysteria to keep people interested...A new overnight high/low in the Middle East...Global warming, again?...Phasing out human kind will take care of the Earth's issues...   Hour 3 Timothy Geitner is helping people, but what's the cost if you say 'yes'...The U.N. needs to fold...Donut Fries by Dunkin' Donuts with Jeffy- needs some dipping sauce...Is Donald Trump the most gay friendly President ever?...We don't just live in a divided country- we live in a divided world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Glenn, Beck. Back Ray and Stu Bergier for Glenn. Big day because Donald Trump yesterday interviewed some of the potential nominees for the U.S. Supreme Court. And Stu, you actually have a breakdown of some of these guys? Yeah, well, I mean... Because, I mean, I'm not all that familiar with their judicial records.
Starting point is 00:00:29 It's not like I follow their court actions. closely during the regular court season. What an admission. I know. That sounds really ignorant, doesn't it? It's one of those things I had a year, a couple of years ago, where I became obsessed with Philadelphia Eagles draft picks. And I kept just like scouting all of them.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And everyone that would be mentioned as a potential draft pick, I would go through and learn their history and watch their, you know, highlight films from college. And then the draft came and they didn't pick any of them. I was like, that was a complete waste of time. Why did I do that? Yeah. I used to be the same way with the court.
Starting point is 00:01:06 With the court system. Every judge, I would watch his rulings. I would jot them down. I would keep their stats. But I haven't done it in about three or four years. So I'm a little lost on where they are currently. So he interviewed five. Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney-Barritt.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Okay. Amul-Top-Bar. I just did the stupid par. A multa par. Thank you. A multipar. There's a rhythm to that one. A multa par. What was it again?
Starting point is 00:01:38 A mulipar. Yeah. I mean, you followed these guys. Yeah, right. It's been a while, but yes. And Raymond Kethledge are the four. Now, I understand, I keep hearing that Kavanaugh is the least desirable of all these guys. Yeah, well, I'm nervous about it.
Starting point is 00:01:52 So if you think about this list, it's gone through three iterations. It was first, I think, 10, then it went up to 21, and then it went to 25. So it's grown over time. And Kavanaugh was put in this last group, this last group of five. And if you go back to the way that they picked Gorsuch, they added 10 to the list. And Gorsuch was in there. Reportedly, they basically added the 10 names so they could add Gorsuch and they wouldn't draw attention to the... We added one more name we came up with, you know, it would be kind of obvious.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So they added kind of a slew of solid choices and they were targeting... Gorsuch at that time is one of the favorites. So, Kavanaugh and Barrett were both added in this last group. Kavanaugh is the one we're kind of worried about here. Wasn't he, was he the one that was the runner
Starting point is 00:02:45 up to Gorsuch last time? No, that's Thomas Hardiman. And Hardiman is also on the short list here. So those are the two that I'm worried about right now. Hardiman and Kavanaugh. Now, both of them check all the boxes. It's not like he's picking some guy off the streets. They've gone through the federalists, society's screening.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So this is... Okay. I don't think you're talking at all to just put this off the table, you know, between a suitor where you make a mistake and it becomes one of the most liberal justices there. I don't think you're talking... The scale we're discussing here is not Ginsburg to Clarence Thomas. The scale we're talking is Kennedy to Clarence Thomas.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Mm-hmm. Right? There's no reason to get another Kennedy here. There's no reason to get another robber to. Or Sandra Day O'Connor. Senator Day, O'Connor is another great... example. You don't need that here. Right. You don't need it. You don't need to please the left with his pick? Not at all. At all. You shouldn't even consider it. There should be zero risk. Yep. So the issue here
Starting point is 00:03:41 is not whether Kavanaugh is, he's not terrible. He's not Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He's not suitor. But I'm worried he is, you know, Roberts. Do we have any idea where he stands on Roe v. Wade? We don't know, um, per se. We do know where he stands on Obamacare and the individual mandate, which is really, I think, the thing that's throwing up red flags for everybody. He wrote a decision or an opinion on Obamacare as it was making its way up the court system to get to the Supreme Court. So this is before Roberts rules on it. And he, in his opinion, basically outlines a path to approve of Obamacare,
Starting point is 00:04:24 approve of the individual mandate. Now, his justification for that was largely judicial restraint. I think the legislature should make these decisions and not us. The problem with that is, you know, when it's unconstitutional, you should, you don't need restraint to stick with the Constitution. I want someone who has very little restraint to honor the Constitution. Right. You don't need restraint in that area. You need someone who is going to not try to make new laws, like, for example, Roberts did to justify Obamacare.
Starting point is 00:04:54 He rewrote the law. As Scalia says, it's now SCOTUS care because we basically just rewrote it. and that is what the what it was making a lot of people nervous here with Kavanaugh. He is a guy who, in this decision, we can go through this more in depth. I don't know how boring we want to get today, but the bottom line is,
Starting point is 00:05:14 we want to be really boring. Really boring? Yeah. Oh, let us read the whole decision then. Hold on. Now, if you go through the breakdown of it, you know, that is largely his reasoning, is judicial restraint,
Starting point is 00:05:29 something that was a priority of George W. Bush when picking justices. So again, that got you Roberts. And the issue with Roberts is he doesn't want to make these big rulings come from the court because he doesn't want to be the one, he wants to keep the court's reputation intact. And I don't, look, the court's reputation is not your job. Your job is the Constitution. Okay? Look at, can you force people to buy things they don't want? No. It's not available. as a government power and has never been utilized as a government power until we all of a sudden made it one
Starting point is 00:06:04 when Roberts made that decision and that's the sort of thing I don't want to me that's activism when you create a brand new thing that has literally never been utilized before forcing people to buy insurance to be in good standing as a citizen and you rework the law
Starting point is 00:06:22 to make it okay twice by the way Roberts did this twice in two separate cases the subsidies and the fee tax situation. That's not what I want. And there's no reason to get another Roberts here. Because people keep saying, well, Jeffrey Tubin's on TV every day saying, oh, well, in 18 months,
Starting point is 00:06:39 we're going to have absolutely no Roe versus Wade. Women are going to have no rights. Gays are not going to be able to go into any bakeries. They will not be able to purchase baked goods at any time. Like, there's no reason to believe that we don't know how Roberts is going to rule on Roe versus Wade. There's no way you can have confidence in that. By the way, we don't even know how Alito.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I mean, I have confidence in Alito. I have confidence in Gorsuch on this issue, but we don't know how either one. The only vote you know you have is Clarence Thomas at this point. That's it. Yeah. So the fact that you're going to go four for four with Roberts, Gorsuch and Alito, which I'm pretty confident in, and then add on to that, whoever this new justice is, if it's over 50%, I'll be surprised right now. I don't think I would buy at one-to-one the odds.
Starting point is 00:07:26 of Roe versus Wade being overturned. I mean, I would need three, four to one before I would say. I'm nowhere near as confident as Jeffrey Toobin. I wish I were. And he's just fear-lundering though, right? I mean, I don't think he believes it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I think he's just trying to scare everyone if you need to oppose it. I want to believe it too. I want it to happen more than anything. It should happen. Absolutely. And we can go into that as well because it's really, even a Roe versus Wade
Starting point is 00:07:50 overturn is not as big a deal. It's a big deal, but it's not the end all be. It doesn't end abortion, certainly in the world, but not even in the United States. So there's a lot there. But, um, so that's, that's one. Cabinot, I'm nervous about Cabinot. I'm also nervous about Hardiman. Hardiman finished in second last time. He was added, uh, as a favor to the list, uh, reportedly, uh, from Rick Santorum. Now, Rick Santorum's conservative. Stop doing favors for people. Rick Santoram's pretty conservative. Although, you know, he's a, he's a different flavor of conservative, uh, as we've seen with his minimum wage policies and, you know, certain
Starting point is 00:08:25 and he sees himself as sort of a blue-collar, you know, populist conservative, which is not my particular flavor. He doesn't like, you know, he's been outspoken against libertarians in the past. And on the court is where you really want libertarians, right? Like, the court is the place for libertarians. Even if you don't want them as your president or you don't want them as your senator, you want them in the court because they're going to, they're going to look at the constitution as written. And that may not be Hardiman. Hardiman is, there is a, you know, they try to do these things. They're imperfect, I think. But when it comes to whether they're liberal or conservative, they have these ratings. And so the court as it stands right now. So to Meyer and Ginsburg,
Starting point is 00:09:03 way on the left. Breyer and Kagan, liberal, but not quite as liberal. Then Kennedy, who they have rated on the scale as to the left of center. Okay. So understand that that's, people are like, oh, they're replacing a conservative with another conservative. I mean, moderate is really a fair description probably of Kennedy, but he's not really all that conservative. He was good on certain things. Then Robert. then Alito, then Gorsuch, and then all the way to the right, Clarence Thomas. What you want is another Clarence Thomas. Of the 10 justices they, are potential justices that they rated, the closest to Clarence Thomas is Mike Lee, most conservative out of that entire group.
Starting point is 00:09:45 The most liberal of the group that they rated was Thomas Hardiman. Hardiman in between Kennedy and Roberts is where they have him rated ideologically. and again, there's just no reason to risk something like that. Hardeman might be okay, but there's no reason to risk them. Again, you know, you have, Hardman was added as a favor. Now, Santorum is a good guy and a conservative guy. It's not even in office. But he's not even in an office.
Starting point is 00:10:12 But this was when Trump was looking for his endorsement during the campaign, and this is when he was added to the list. But, okay, just because it's a favor or someone else, that's not necessarily bad. It could be good. But that's also how we got suitor. John Sununu, hey, I know this guy in New Hampshire. He's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You're going to love him. And then we got the most liberal guy in the Supreme Court, almost. So that makes me nervous. He's also friends with Trump's sister, serves with Trump's sister on the court, which, again, you could argue fairly, hey, he's got insight on who this person is. You know, extra insight.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Maybe that's a good thing. It makes me nervous when you have personal relationships, having anything to do with stuff like this. Because you make, you make, That's how you make mistakes. We've been burned many times before. Yeah, really have. And he also, you know, is on this list the furthest to the left.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So, I mean, to me, I don't want Hardiman. The problem was he made it. He was reportedly in second place to Gorsuch when they picked last time. He interviewed, they said, even better than Gorsuch. It was a great interview, very well prepared. And he is on the short list again here. He's listed in the story today in the top five. he's already been interviewed by Trump
Starting point is 00:11:23 and Trump went through four others so that's two of the top five the two that I'm nervous about the other three are Amy Kona-Barritt who you'll remember her from when she was going through her last advice and consent process
Starting point is 00:11:39 she was attacked for her religion by I was Diane Feinstein who was basically like oh yeah the the, what was the word she used? The dogma. Yeah. The dogma is strong with you. Lives loudly within you.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah. Like, wait, what? What? And she is a member of like a church group and they're trying to make that look like it's a cult. She's Catholic. Yeah. And then there's some group that she's in that's a Catholic group.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It's a Catholic group. It's a Catholic group of people who like pledged to each other to help each other throughout their lives. Oh, that's kookery. That's crazy. What a nut job. You can't have her on the court. But she, I mean, again,
Starting point is 00:12:22 seemingly would be on the right side of Roe versus Wade with that background. So that is something that is possible, is possibly a positive. Thapar, or what is it, Amulthapar. There we go. Amulthapar.
Starting point is 00:12:39 This is another one recommended highly is the pick of Mitch McConnell. This is who Mitch McConnell wants to get this gig. And he's been on the list. He's pretty conservative. He's on the ideological rating scale is slightly to the right of Alito. Wow. So that's seemingly a good pick. Again, I get a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:12:59 When you have people recommending others, it always makes me nervous, but I understand it. And then Kethledge, who is equal to Gorsuch on this ideological list, which is pretty, pretty nice. So there's a, I mean, look, all of these justices are right of center. Mm-hmm. why we would go more towards the center than the right. There's no reason to here. You know what? We talked about this on the news and why it matters,
Starting point is 00:13:23 which we are both on every day here in the blaze. If you go in there and you put in the most, you put in Mike Lee, let's just say. They're not going to do this. I don't think. But let's say you put in Mike Lee. And Mikely goes through there and he's been outspoken against Roe versus Wade thinks it's a terrible decision, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And Murkowski and Collins come out and say, no, I'm not going to vote for them. First of all, you're going to have a great case to go to red state Democrats of that election and say, hey, hey, West Virginia, you know, we needed the vote for Mansion and he wouldn't do it. You're going to have a great case to win all of those Senate seats that are in red states. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I think you roll the dice with it. I do too. Because there's a good chance Republicans expand their majority here in the Senate. It's set up perfectly for them to do so. If you have an outstanding Supreme Court seat, it's going to drive people to the polls like crazy. And I think he rolled the dice with it. then you put in the most conservative person you absolutely can.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Now, you don't necessarily have to have them outspoken like Lee has been or maybe prior has been on Roe versus Wade, but you need to have someone who you're sure of. No, no playing here. No, no, oh, well, let's pick someone who's never said anything about an issue. Let's not anger the liberals. Yeah, you don't need to do that here. Even if you lose Murkowski and Collins, it's just an argument to come back. you'll get probably get to 54 or 55 seats in the Senate
Starting point is 00:14:47 and then you'll be able to get whoever you want through. And if they go along with it, if you have another Gorsuch ready to go and you think they're that good, then do it. And it's great. But if you don't get it through, you can be patient with this one, I think. I'd rather not pull the trigger
Starting point is 00:15:02 on somebody like Hardiman who is really risky. And then at the end of the day, you're like, oh, well, if we waited three months, you know, we could have had somebody better. You know, this is... maybe the main issue for an awful lot of people in voting for Donald Trump. Those who weren't absolutely sold on him from the beginning usually came to the conclusion, well, the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:15:27 He'll be good. He's a lot better on the Supreme Court, and we've got some openings that are likely, and I'm not going to put Hillary Clinton there. I'm going to vote for Trump because of the Supreme Court. How many people did that? Lots. Many. So now here's the chance.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Here's your opportunity. Seem to do well with Pick 1. You know, you never know this first. I mean, Roberts looked great in the first year or two as well. So you never know, but it looks great. If he can pull out another one like that, it's going to be fantastic. That'd be great. AAA 727 back.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn. Triple eight, 727 back. Looks like we avoided a 4th of July attack on downtown Cleveland, which is always a good thing. FBI said Demetrius Nathaniel Pitts, also known as Abdur Rahim Rafiq. It's taken into custody. on Sunday around 10 on accusations of attempting to provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Apparently, he was trying to figure out how to give toys with explosives in them to children of military veterans. Oh, my God. Yeah. And they had all kinds of things planned for downtown Cleveland. And fortunately, we dodged a bullet there. frightening. Wow. Yeah, targets like St. John's Cathedral
Starting point is 00:16:47 and giving remote control cars packed with explosives and shrapnel to the children of military members. Oh my God. Can you imagine? Actually, and we saw this in the documentary Halloween 3 season of the witch in which they, that company,
Starting point is 00:17:04 which of course, I can't remember the name of the company. Right. Oh, Silver Shamrock, I think it was. And they gave Halloween masks to kids all around America. You had to put them on while you watch. Right. And then you gather around the TV.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And they had the three more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. Don't sing that otherwise. I won't sing. I won't sing the full song because then if you're wearing the mask, it will, apparently, I don't know what it does exactly inside, but I know bugs crawl out your eyes. And yeah, it's worse than hypnosis. Well, it crushes your skull and then bugs crawl out your eyes. I don't know exactly where the bugs stored in the mask?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Where did they come from? But the bugs and snakes. Why were there's snakes? Were there snakes in the rubber of the mask? It never seemed to be fully explained. No, but I mean... I just know it was horrible. But I mean, that was legitimately like the plot.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You give kids something that they like. They hold on to it. They put it on their heads and then it kills them. Yes. The fact that that's a potentially real life scenario slightly altered from Halloween 3 season of the witch. Yes. I'm glad they caught this guy.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Jeez, that is... Oh my gosh. Can you imagine? When you get into that stuff, I mean, look, killing people for any reason. There's just a guy who... who was arrested for threatening to kill Ajit Pai, the FCC commissioner over net neutrality. Now, look, there's a lot of reasons to kill somebody. But net neutrality. Your Netflix buffering is not one of them.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's like, I just, the amazing world we live in today. I know. You know, it's incredible. And here, like, there's a certain extra level deep in the bowels of hell for someone who would try to get an exploding toy. No doubt about it. Wow. Wow. Really dodged a bullet there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's bad and stew for Glenn, AAA 727 BECK. We were talking about potential Supreme Court nominees. What is this group that Amy, the two names that we're hearing most right now are Judge Kavanaugh and Judge Barrett, Amy Coney Barrett. They're both added in that last group,
Starting point is 00:19:09 which makes sense the way they picked last time. Has he talked to both of them? I think he has, right? He's interviewed both of them already. Yes. Also, CBS is reporting that those are the final two. Now, she belongs to some scary, scary religious group. Yes, is Catholic?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Have you heard of this? Catholic? Oh, I'm sorry, my birth mispronouncing that. Catholic? Catholic. I think it's Catholic. Okay, I don't know. I'm not familiar.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It sounds really bad, though. No. Well, there's only like two billion of them around the world. That's it? Oh, my gosh. That's weird. A cult. A cult.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So, she is a faithful Catholic. and she had an issue with Diane Feinstein where, you know, Diane is not apparently a fan of being a faithful Catholic, I guess. I don't know exactly what she's describing in this clip, but it's become sort of a famous one because if you're a faithful person, you know, if you're going to be attacked like this,
Starting point is 00:20:09 if this is an attack, then you're eliminating everybody of faith, basically. Yes. Everybody who actually lives their faith. faith. And I don't think that's what I don't think that's what we're supposed to be doing here. A litmus test to make sure you're not religious. It legitimately seems to be what is being applied
Starting point is 00:20:25 here. This is Diane Feinstein with Amy Coney-Barritt. When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And that's of concern. When you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country. What? So that's a concern that you believe things strongly in your religion. What are you talking about? Is this the United States of America? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:05 We take a wrong turn and wind up in a Soviet-block nation? What do you mean? That's a concern. Why? What do you mean you're concerned about that? And of course, what she means is we fought so hard for Roe v. Wade that we will not give it up come what may. Yes, absolutely. We are going to continue the slaughter of children.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And if you want to stop that, I'm sorry, you can't be a part of any judicial system. It is under, we believe, and we are under the impression that some Catholics do not like Roe v. Wade. And they do not like abortion. And therefore, we do not want you on the court. That's essentially what she's saying. It's exactly what she's saying. And she can't obviously state it that clearly, but that's exactly what she means.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Now, she is also, it goes further than this, Pat. She is in a very deep cult, as described by a lot of people on Twitter. But it does not seem like necessarily a cult to me. I would like to get your opinion on this. This is the people of praise group, right? Yes. She is a member of a small, tightly knit Christian group called people.
Starting point is 00:22:15 of praise. I don't know why it just seems like you should say it in a scary way. They, the members of the group swear a lifelong oath of loyalty called a covenant to one another. Now, I don't know what that, I mean, obviously like, if you take this to, you know, the Rajneeshis in, you know, Oregon,
Starting point is 00:22:39 you could find a way that a lifelong cult or a lifelong pledge of loyalty, or a covenant could be really scary, right? And that's obviously how this is intended to read, you know? But I mean, when you listen to it, I mean, it's like... Well, what is it a covenant to do? Exactly. So, let me...
Starting point is 00:22:58 Current and former members say that the heads and handmaids, that's what they're called. So they have... The covenant is to one another. They're assigned and accountable to a personal advisor called a head for men and a handmade for women. The group teaches that husbands are the heads of their wives and should take authority over the family. Now, this is how the New York Times also characterizes the Bible, right?
Starting point is 00:23:19 So I don't know how you're, if you're going to be, if you're a religious person, why you'd be scared of this? Because this is how they talk about these issues all the time. And they just make it seem like it's the worst thing that's ever been invented. Right. And when you talk, you know, maybe it's the, maybe this is a terrible group. And it's the boy who cried wolf because it's, they, anything that is religious, they make sound like this. So I don't know. I don't really know by looking at this.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It says current and former members say that the heads and heads and heads. handmaids give direction on important decisions, including whom to date, whom to marry, where to live, whether to take a job or buy a home, and how to raise children. Now, that to me strikes it to me as the way the New York Times would write about a support group, a group of people who have similar principles and who realize that men and women are fallible. Right. And at times go off the road and you need someone to help bring you back to the correct road. Right. I know that that's in your church, right? You have people who you have a system, not exactly like that, but it's pretty similar from my understanding of it, right? Where like you, you know, Glenn has talked about how he's had people who are in troubled times that come over to the house and he'll go visit them to try to help them through troubled times. Yes. Right. Like that seems like a really rational thing for a church to be doing. Yeah. Legal scholars say that such loyalty oaths could raise legitimate questions about judicial nominees, independence, impartiality. So the idea here is that Amy Coney Barrett is going to be like, I don't know what to do on Roe versus Wade. Let me go ask my handmade.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And then the handmade is going to be like, oh, you absolutely want that. Is that really the implication here? I guess. It's absolutely not going to be the case. That's not going to happen. This is ludicrous. Ludicrous. These groups can be so absorbing that it's difficult for a person to retain individual judgment,
Starting point is 00:25:13 says Sarah Berenger, Gordon, a professor of constitutional law and history at the University of Pennsylvania. And an expert on the people of praise? Absolutely. Okay, sure. Let's hear what she says then. Does she go in depth into the group?
Starting point is 00:25:26 No. Well, she says, I don't think it's discriminatory or hostile to religion to want to learn more about a relationship with the group. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Ms. Barrett through a spokesperson at the Notre Dame Law School where she is on faculty, declined several requests to be interviewed for this article. A leader of people of people of praise, Craig S. Lent
Starting point is 00:25:45 said his name to Lent. His name to Lent. I'm just going to assume. These people are crazy. Oh, that's great. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He was joined by Bill Communion. And David Easter. Craig Lent said that the group was not nefarious or controversial, but its policy was not to confirm whether Ms. Barron or anyone else was a member. Mr. Lent, whose title overall coordinator, who has belonged to the group for nearly 40 years, said in interviews that the group was about building community and long-term relationships and that members have a wide spectrum of political views.
Starting point is 00:26:29 We don't try to control people, said Mr. Lent. Again, a guy who was so controlled, he changed his name to Lent. Let's be honest about that. That's just not. No. Who is also a professor of electrical engineering and physics at Notre Dame. Sounds just like a whack job. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:44 You know? There's never any guarantee that the leader is always right. You have to discern an act in the Lord. He later added, if and when members hold political offices or judicial offices or administrative offices, we would certainly not tell them how to discharge their responsibilities. Again, it just seems like the type of thing that this is going to sound great
Starting point is 00:27:04 to think progress, right? This argument is going to seem really compelling to raise money for media matters. You know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be able to make a big deal about this when she's raising money for her campaign. But it's not real, right? I mean, it doesn't seem like it's an actual legitimate point to be brought up. It's trying to scare people to think she's too religious and therefore can be accepted. Right. And I'm sorry, what's the difference between that and this from Nancy Pelosi?
Starting point is 00:27:37 They ask me all the time. What is your favorite this? What is your favorite? That? What's your favorite that? And at one time, what is your favorite word? And I said, my favorite word, that is really easy. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:27:49 My favorite word is the word. The word. The word. Is the word. That's the word. And that is everything. It says it all. Says it all.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And you know the biblical reference. You know the gospel reference. The word. And that is word. Word. is we have to give voice to what that means in terms of public policy that would be in keeping with it. Oh, oh! In terms of public policy.
Starting point is 00:28:21 What kind of crazy nudge-up wackiness was that? Wait, the word gives voice to your public policy? Can you imagine if one of the Supreme Court justices? Nobody had any trouble with that. No. Are you telling me you make laws based on the word? I hope so. I wish you did because I know that you're ignoring the word when you make public policy. If you're Nancy Pelosi, I wish they would listen to the word.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But nobody was scared of that. No. Part of the reason why no one was scared of that is no one believes that she actually thinks it. True. Like no one believes she does that at all. I mean, I love how the whole point of her is to say that it's the word and to give voice to the word, but she won't actually say the word. I love that. It's true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You know, this is her, you know, Nancy Pelosi is famous for this, right? Yeah. She acts mega religious in certain moments. But then it never seen. When she's with religious people. When she's with. And she's pandering to them. That's what she says.
Starting point is 00:29:24 When it's time to get donations. Yep. From a religious group. She sounds like that. Yeah. But she doesn't act like that. Not at all. And that's what they're comfortable with.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That's actually with the left likes. Hey, you don't want to come out and you want to give a little voice to faith and stuff so we can suck in some of those people? Great. As long as you don't vote like that, fine. And it's scared of the opposite. As long as it's just pandering, we're completely comfortable with it. But if you mean it, we don't want anything to do with you.
Starting point is 00:29:50 This is reflected in their view of the founders as well. I mean, their argument when we bring out a David Barton document, you know, David's dug up some letter that George Washington wrote and it's all faithful. And it sounds so religious. What's the real? Oh, well, that was just their public face. They just said those things because they. knew the people were religious. They weren't really religious. That had nothing to do
Starting point is 00:30:12 with this. Most of them were secularists. Most of them were deists. At the most. And it's like their idea is politicians lie and they were playing this religious face to the people. It reveals a lot about what they are doing. That's what they are doing.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You know, it's what many politicians have done throughout history. It is a common practice to essentially fake your faith to win over the people and then vote however you want. So that's very familiar to the left. And I guess they're applying that.
Starting point is 00:30:44 There's nothing wrong with having faith. In fact, it's very common here in our history. Our society was built on the idea that faithful people could make public decisions. Absolutely. Based on a central, not only their own personal opinion, because that's not what this is supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about, can you analyze the Constitution and stick to it? That's what it's supposed to be about. Period.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And there's no reason here. Someone run in and said, well, we don't want to, we need Carson Wentz, not Ryan Leaf. It's a first round draft pick. You got to, your first overall pick, pick the person who you think is going to be best. Don't try to massage it. Don't try to pick, you know, someone who you think might pass muster with some liberals. Pick the most conservative person you have. And conservative is not even the right way to say it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 The constitutionalist. That's what you need here. And, you know, look, a lot of people are defending Kavanaugh, which is one of the people we brought up with, that could be a risk. Ben Shapiro kind of said, I'm worried about this. A couple of other healthcare experts did not like the way he looked at Obamacare. However, overall, he looks pretty solid. Ed Wheelan at National Review has been one of his defenders, and he's a pretty smart guy too.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So it's not universal. I just feel like I'm just running away from risk here. I'm risk averse with this pick. Anybody who looks like they could go the other way, you should run from. Because we've learned from Souter and Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy. We've been down that road a million times. We don't need to go down that road again.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I mean, look at this. The reason why Roe versus Wade was not overturned is because Ronald freaking Reagan missed. Right. That's how hard this is to do. Right. Yeah. I mean, that is a big statement. People are like, oh, well, you know, why?
Starting point is 00:32:27 You don't think Trump can pick another justice. It's hard. It really hard. I mean, you know, Bush probably went, I would say one for two. You know, it looks like Gorsuch is a home run. far, but we don't know. It's not long enough to really tell. But, I mean, Reagan went one for two, right?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yes. Or he actually had more than that. We had El Connor. Yeah. Connor, he missed with. Kennedy, he missed with. Right. And Thomas was Bush, right? Thomas was Bush. Yeah. So, I mean, this is hard to do. It's not a criticism of the president or this process or anything. If you have any element of risk whatsoever eliminate it.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. Absolutely. don't miss with this one because even Reagan missed. Twice. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Pat and Stu for Glenn AAA 727
Starting point is 00:33:21 BECK. There are some things you should be concerned about in a Supreme Court Justice. Okay. Let me share one of those with you. You should certainly be aided by all the... Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Constitution writing that has gone on. Aided? Since the end of World War II.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah. We should be helped by the Constitution I would not look to the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012. Right, because it's such an old document, right? I might look at the Constitution of South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights. Sure. Had an independent judiciary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 It really is a... I think a great piece of work that was done. Much more recently than the U.S. Constitution, Canada. Oh, yeah, yeah. As a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. And that was from 1982. So those are way better than ours. That's what you should avoid in a Supreme Court justice.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Somebody who doesn't even care about our Constitution. How about that? Glenn Beck. Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, AAA 727 B-E-C-K. We've been kicking around the Supreme Court nominee a little bit today and kind of going over whether or not religion should be a litmus test
Starting point is 00:34:48 against nominating a Supreme Court justice seems somewhat unconstitutional. But that's what they're doing kind of right now to Amy Coney-Barritt. She belongs to a religious group. And, well, she's Catholic. But then there's some subsection within the religion. She belongs to something called people
Starting point is 00:35:07 of praise, which I'm not that familiar with, but they make covenants with each other. Oh no, that's a scary word for progressives. You've made a covenant? Oh, okay. So, that means you're going to have to call that person and get their advice on all your Supreme Court decisions?
Starting point is 00:35:26 No, that's not what that means. Is there anything really concerning in it all, though? Have you seen anything that... We know one thing that's is scary. One of the heads of the entire organization changed his name to Lent. Lent. Craig S. Lent And I don't have any information to back that claim up. No, and we don't know if he
Starting point is 00:35:43 changed his name or that was his given name. We have, no. In fact, I would assume it's probably his given name, but I think to make this scary, we have to say his name was like Craig Smith, and he joined this group and they made him change his name to Craig Lent.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Or he's such a fanatic. He did it on his own volition. That's almost just scary. If he acts independently, though, that it's not cult. So it has to be somebody told him to do this. Along with his assistance, Bill Easter. Bill Easter.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Terry communion and Jim Prayer. So here's so. That may be the whole leadership of the group. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Current and former members of people of praise. I would like to,
Starting point is 00:36:34 if there's anyone in the audience who happens to belong to this or know someone who belongs to it or know anything about the group. I really don't know other than the New York Times is trying to scare me into thinking it's terrible. Current and former members of people of praise said that Ms. Barrett and her husband who have seven children. That's too many. There's another tip off that she's evil. Seven children? How many times did Craig Lent tell her to have a kid? That's what I want to know. Seven? Probably seven because she can't act independently, apparently. They both belong to the group. Their fathers had served as leaders. It was the group was founded in 19,
Starting point is 00:37:06 1771 claims about 1,800 adult members in 22 locations in North America and the Caribbean. So a pretty small group relatively. Group believes in prophecy, speaking in tongue and divine healings, staples of Pentecostal churches that some Catholics have adopted in a movement called charismatic renewal. People praise where it was an early leader in the flowering of that movement in North America. 90% of its members are Catholic. to fulfill the group's Comunitarian vision
Starting point is 00:37:37 Unmarried members are sometimes placed To live in homes with married couples And their children And members often look to buy or rent homes near other members No No You're just controlling their real estate choices now
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yep Okay cross your name First lent Just name the guy lent Now You're just putting them on Zillow It's got to be within a radius of other people's houses?
Starting point is 00:38:04 It's almost like a community. It sounds like a community. Cross her off the list. I say cross her off the list. She's clearly a cuck. Some former members criticized the group from deviating from Catholic doctrine, which does not teach male headship
Starting point is 00:38:19 in contrast to some evangelical churches. The personal advisors can be too controlling, the critics say. They may betray confidences, and too often they supplant the role of priest. there you go so i mean basically we can tell here that this is okay this is way off the list so so is that scarier than this from ruth bader ginsberg i can't speak about what the egyptian experience should be on uh doing their new constitution this was 2012-ish when uh when they
Starting point is 00:38:57 had their revolution there and and they were talking about putting together the constitution so she was asked about that. Because I'm operating under a rather old constitution. Old, right? Yeah. The United States, in comparison to Egypt, is a very new nation. Yeah, but. And yet we have the oldest, the oldest written constitution still enforced in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Amen. Which is obviously a bad thing, that it's lasted this long and it's been this durable. Seems like maybe they got it right. Man, that is such a revealing. Is that amazing? Because she's not even. Like her When she's in the court
Starting point is 00:39:36 Right? She's speaking on behalf of the court. She comes up with ridiculous Justifications to say Her decisions are constitutional. So they always do. The left doesn't come out and say, You know what?
Starting point is 00:39:48 We don't think it's in this is in the constitution But this is what we think it should be. I mean, occasionally they hint at those things in their decisions. But this is her telling you. I don't believe in the Constitution. No, it sucks. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:01 This is not the right way to. go. We need to play this. We started playing this, but we didn't have time to finish it. Listen to what she was saying when they were asking her about the Constitution and giving advice to other countries
Starting point is 00:40:15 on their Constitution. You should certainly be aided by all the Constitution writing that has gone on since the end of World War II. Inter-Supreme Court decisions. That's right. This was a 2012 interview.
Starting point is 00:40:32 and they were asking her about how she bases her, what she bases her decisions on. So she should be aided by all the constitutions that have been written since World War II. Wait, what? No, absolutely not. I mean, that is the exact opposite. You shouldn't be influenced by anybody else's constitution.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It doesn't matter at all. No. Completely unrelated. In fact, I would say restricted. You're not allowed to look at them. Right. Not look to the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the Constitution of South Africa.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That was a deliberate attempt. That's where I'd go to. It's to have a fundamental. Well, I don't know if you know this, Pat, but South Africa's been a shining example of liberty. Of liberty throughout the days. Right? Yes. We all long to someday figure it out the way South Africa has.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Well, if only. I don't think we'll ever get there. Stu, because it's something we can only aspire to. We can never achieve. It's the eternal harmony of South Africa. I mean, what of ludicrous. It's just ridiculous. Embraced.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah. Basic human rights. Basic human rights. Had an independent judiciary. It really is. I think. What a concept. Wait, an independent judiciary?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Who's ever heard of that? Where do you think? these people are getting the ideas from us from us a piece of work that was done much more recently than the U.S. Constitution Canada
Starting point is 00:42:14 Canada has a charter of rights and freedoms dates from 1982 oh wow first of all that's a good year that was a really good year it was a good year for wine it was a good year for constitutions gremlins did gremlins come out around 1982 close you want to make sure
Starting point is 00:42:31 It might be even more recent for Gremlin. Really? I think it was 84. Oh, wow. Okay. But I'm not positive. See that, well, that's the thing. Maybe we should learn from Gremlins.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And that why not, why in 1982? That's old. What about a new constitution every Wednesday? What about that? It's Constitution Wednesday. It's every Wednesday. Tweet us your ideas for a new amendment. Every Wednesday, we all tune in together.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah. And see what the law of the land is. I like it. I like it a lot. What is the limiting principle? I want to know. You go on there. Maybe we just tweet it out line by line.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah. Well, Iceland did that. We should learn a lesson from Iceland. Back in, what was it, 2010 or 12, 14, somewhere in there when they were doing a new, they wanted ideas tweeted to them. And I think we should do the same thing. And I think you're right. I think it should be every Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Just pick a day and start tweeting as constitutional ideas. And we'll just put them into a new constitution and finally get rid of this old dusty piece of crap we have. Just set fire to it. Why? It's so old. But you know what the best thing about it is it's so old. It's incredibly flammable, so it would light up right away. Yeah, it's good. You wouldn't
Starting point is 00:43:43 even need lighter fluid? Very dried up parchment. So it'll burn fast. Look at the European Convention on Human Rights. Right. Look at that. Yes, why not take advantage of what there is elsewhere. Yeah. Because you're not supposed
Starting point is 00:43:59 to because that has nothing to do with your judicial decision here based on our Constitution? I mean, so that shows you there's somebody who doesn't even believe in our Constitution that's sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court right now. Yeah. But, you know, they don't have any problem with that. No, not at all. They have a problem with Amy Coney Barrett because she's religious.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Ruth Bader Ginsburg also famous for continually falling asleep in the middle of her job, which is interesting because she's one of the first. of the few people you actually, it's actually better if she's asleep. Like I would much rather have her just kind of sleep through all of this and maybe not even vote. At the end, just kind of just kind of sleep through it. Ruth, what do you want to? Oh, she's out.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. Okay. She's asleep. Shh, everybody talk about this quietly. Soothing tones, guys, soothing tones. Look, she's 85 years old. And, you know, we talk about this a lot. And I think social media has ruined this in some way, I would rather have a Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Starting point is 00:45:05 admitting things like that. I'd rather have her, be honest, rather than what she does in the court, which is lie and act as if she cares about the Constitution, be honest like she just was there. You know what? Come out and admit it. And I think because people get beat up so badly
Starting point is 00:45:19 from social media when they tweet their real opinions, people now hold them in and hide them. I'd rather know who people are. I'd rather know. Yeah. You know, we wind up trying to fire every comedian who makes a joke that's off color or every politician who makes a comment that doesn't work. I'd rather have, I'd rather just judge it on its merit, vote them out when it
Starting point is 00:45:41 comes time, don't watch their show if you don't like it, whatever the case may be. How many times have we said? At least we respect Bernie Sanders because he admits it. He's a socialist. I respect this millennial in the Bronx because she admits it. She's a Democratic socialist. You've got too many Democrats right now who are trying to pretend like they're actual Democrats. when they're actually socialists, most of the party has become so left wing that there's no difference between them and socialists or communists. There's no difference.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And it's about to get a lot worse. Yeah. You know, when you see these high profile kind of glamorous cases like Casio Cortez in New York, where you're getting a Democratic socialist that admitted one, who comes out and says, hey, this is what I'm doing. I want free, guaranteed jobs, free college,
Starting point is 00:46:28 all of the nonsense that goes along with the Democratic. socialist platform that is completely unreasonable. And you have that not only winning, but a media glorified win, right? They're coming to her aid and saying, what an amazing thing this is. And as that happens, the praise will go to people like Bernie Sanders and people who supported Bernie. And you will have a democratic party that will be even unfamiliar to the one that elected Barack Obama. I mean, it's, we're going to find a place, you know, I mean, Barack Obama was, I think,
Starting point is 00:47:06 in many ways further, much further left than he led on in a normal everyday way. No doubt about it. I mean, there's no doubt about that, but he, he at least was trying to hide it. And how you're going to get to that point where they're coming out and just unmasking, as Glenn has said for many years. And that's going to be, when that is the, the only way you can win a primary is to be a socialist. That is going to be an interesting world. And I think we're almost there with the Democrats. Yeah. We're there.
Starting point is 00:47:35 AAA 727 B-E-C-K. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. I don't know if you're aware of this, Stu. Another ominous record-breaking heat temperature has been set. Oh, no. Or in the words of more like Al Gore, another ominous record have been fat. the city of Curiod Oman hit an overnight low of 108.7 degree on tootheday, likely the highest minimum daily temperature recorded on Earth.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And that's ominous because I don't know. We didn't have any records before now. There were no records. There were no records. It never happened. Everything was the same until now. And now we're starting to set records. All the time.
Starting point is 00:48:29 You know what they say. Records were made to be insurmountable. That's what the... That is what they say, isn't it? Records were made to be insurmountable and never be broken. It's been surmounted. And so... Which shows Al Gore was right.
Starting point is 00:48:43 He was right. By the way, his last movie pretty much bombed, didn't it? It did. Remember, well, there was a big buildup to... I think it made $3 million or something in the United States. That's sad. People didn't watch... One of Notch Al talk about graphs anymore.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I wonder if... had anything to do with the first time he did it. It was mostly bogus. I wonder if that doesn't make that, that does not consistent with the liberals that I know that they would be like, oh, well, it wasn't true last time. I don't trust him this time. That's not consistent with many on the left that I've run into. So what do you think it was? Are we just not, they're just not interested in climate change anymore? Yeah. I think I, I think that's part of it. it seems like such a, it's not the marquee attention point right now, right? Donald Trump is.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yep. Right? The thing that's exciting them right now is opposition to Donald Trump, not, you know, 0.9 degrees over a century. The resistance. And like, it shows how dumb the claim is, right? We talked about this for a long time. You know, even if you believe everything that Dalgore says, there's a lot of time and a lot of decisions and a lot of things that could happen.
Starting point is 00:49:55 For example, massive scientific advancement, right? Where, like, there's no reason to believe that Elon Musk in five years doesn't come up with some solar panel that solves all of these problems in a minute. Yeah. Right? It just was so ridiculous to think that now is the time to restrict economies by multiple trillions of dollars globally to try to stop.9 degrees over a century and a little bit more after that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And so they, it's just not. It doesn't have any intensity to it, right? Like, I think there was a time where they tried every maximalist claim to make it seem like the worst thing was happening right now. And it just doesn't, it doesn't prove out, right? Yeah. And they have to continually hype up the hysteria around this to keep people's interest. Like, we were talking yesterday about the, on my show, on Pat Gray Unleashed, on the Blaze Radio TV network, which you can listen to immediately following this show. Or check it out anytime on podcast and just download it.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You should. Listen to it whenever you please. But we were talking about the Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch. Have you heard about that? I have heard a little bit about it. Okay. It is, is it real? Double the size of Texas.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Two times the size of Texas. That's pretty freaking big. It's bigger than Alaska. and it's out there somewhere in the middle of the ocean. It's this big and they don't know where it is? No. Well, they know approximately where it is, but strangely, there is no photo of it.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You can't find an image of the garbage patch. This does not seem real. So I started looking on the internet for an image. I wanted to see if anybody had one. And you can find garbage and waterways in Singapore or whatever. But you can't find this size of Texas. or Alaska garbage patch
Starting point is 00:51:54 in the Pacific Ocean. You just can't find it because it doesn't exist. And I finally found an article on Slate that said that the garbage patch is not real.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I mean, they admitted it. It's mostly in people's minds. And it was made up... I wish I could find the exact quote. I've got to find this because it's amazing. So basically they're saying It was made up to hype up global warming and climate change and catastrophe because the oceans weren't clean enough.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And so they had to hype up how dirty it is. And so in order to get people interested, they lied about how nasty this problem is. And they just made it up. And people continued to report it. And he said the story got bigger as it went. First of all, it was three million tons of garbage. Then it was the size of Texas. Then it was double the size of Texas.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Then it was the size of a continent. Unreal. It's pretty amazing. I'll have to try to find the article. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. So are they just saying that essentially if you added up all the trash in the ocean and you put it next to each other, it would be the size of Texas. Is that kind of the scam? I don't think it's even that big a problem.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I don't think so. So a few years ago, Glenn and Tanya started a company called Real Estate Agentsideshrust.com. Why did they do that? Well, they did it because they were having a real frustration trying to sell their house. And you might think, oh, Glenn must have been a nightmare to be around when he was whining about his house every day. And I will say, yes, he was. I was there. It was not fun.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So I'm glad he started at Real Estateagentadrust.com. And I think you'll be, too, because if you're trying to sell your house fast and for the most money, or if you're looking to buy, Real Estateagentitrust.com is a place to go. They've got over 1,200 agents all over America that are rigorously qualified by Glenn's team. Experience, marketing plans, character, and the results they get are the barometers they use to find the best agents in America, and then they don't let anybody else sign up. So you have the best agents in your area available. All the work is done for you at real estate agents.itrust.com. Real estate agentsitrust.com, it's the place to go to make sure the biggest investment you'll ever
Starting point is 00:54:15 make goes smoothly. Let these agents earn your business. Get moving with real estate agents I trust.com. It's bat and stew for Glenn. AAA 727 back. We were talking about Al Gore and his hysteria over the fact that they had the record high, low temperature
Starting point is 00:54:35 sat on Earth the other night in... The record high, low. Yes. It's never been hotter at night than it was the other night in the Middle East. 108 degrees. 108.7. That's pretty warm at night.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, it's a... You wouldn't want to keep the windows open. Probably not. No. You wouldn't get an awful lot of relief from that. So it led us into the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, which is just an incredible shame. Because this has been making the rounds lately. It has.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah. Why is that? Do you know? It was invented a long time ago, and now for some reason it's resurfaced. And I don't really know why, but you're right. There might be an email floating around. A lot of times that's what prompts some of these things. So we got to.
Starting point is 00:55:20 talking about this yesterday and just looked in. I just believed it. I just believed that, okay, there's, you know, a garbage patch twice the size of Texas in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I don't know why I believed it. I just accepted it. And shouldn't have.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Found this article in Slate that is from September of 2016. There is no island of trash in the Pacific. But the cause of clean oceans needed a good story and our warming plant could use another one. I love it when they just admit, yeah, we make these things up to create the hysteria so people will listen to us.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I mean, Gore has always kind of admitted that to, or at least he used to. He used to say that you have to kind of exaggerate things to get people to move. What would you say? It's kind of like to capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and little mention of any doubts one might have. Each of us has to decide the right balance between being a, effective and being honest. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:23 That's from Stephen Schneider, who is a UN IPCC report author. This is a guy in the UN IPCC is the thing that Gore talks about all the time. It's like the big UN climate report. They do every few years. That is like, to me, the fundamental mission statement of environmentalism. Let me give you one more time. To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios. make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Each of us has to decide the right balance of being effective and being honest. I mean, that is the most crystal clear, most honest thing you've ever heard from an environmentalist. Yeah. And that was made in 1989 by Stephen Schneider, who wound up to become a, he was Stanford, I believe. and he was a, one of being a UN IPCC author, as I mentioned, was a lead environmentalist until he died in 2010. He made that statement long before we had Al Gore-esque debates. He just, he, this is basically the environmentalist constitution.
Starting point is 00:57:34 It's that, that is exactly how, because it's not as if every one of their claims has no evidence as this garbage patch does. Like, for example, the garbage patch is a good example of it. Garbage patch, is there trash in the ocean? Yeah. Is there more than we'd like? Sure. Is there one that's twice the size of Texas? Not even close. And is it a real problem? I mean, it's highly debatable as to whether it's an actual real problem.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I mean, this is a mass. It's a lot of water out there. Yeah. And so you don't want any trash in there. We'd like to clean it up. There are problems associated with it, but it's not this mega disaster that they try to make it out to me. So to capture the public imagination, they made. scary scenarios and simplified dramatic statements.
Starting point is 00:58:19 There's a giant two times the size of Texas floating in the middle of the ocean somewhere in the Pacific. Right? Yeah. That's how bad things are. I mean, I was kind of convinced and I thought, well, okay, how did it all end up in one place? I guess the ocean current? Right. Because you could see that.
Starting point is 00:58:38 If you've ever been in a lake, right, where maybe, you know, there's like party boats that go out in the lake and people occasionally throw. cans off the side. You'll see them collect in one area of the lake sometimes. You know what I mean? Something like that where like the current or the motion of the boats, they create some waves and they push all the garbage into kind of one area. Everybody's
Starting point is 00:58:59 seen that. So in your mind you're thinking, well, maybe that happens in the Pacific Ocean. It's just a giant do people have to route around it? I mean, imagine, as you're going towards the giant two times the size of Texas garbage barge in the middle of the
Starting point is 00:59:15 Pacific. That's a lot of garbage. A lot of extra time to reverse it. That would make for quite a photo. And to think that there isn't one on the internet that you can find is pretty amazing. It's a good example, too, of how technology has solved a lot of these problems because there would be a photo. You have a drone even over there.
Starting point is 00:59:33 A satellite. Some kind of photo. A plane. You take a snap of that from somewhere and you wouldn't be able to get it all in one photo, but still, maybe from a satellite you could. But when you go and search for the images and you can't find any, that should tell you something. And it does.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And that's why I was so surprised to find this honesty in slate. The author writes, But the Great Pacific Garbage Patch has always been less substantial than it sounds, less an island in the ocean, than a big idea that floats around inside our heads. It's a throwback to the time when environmental threats were made of solid things, empty bottles, fishing nets, nuclear waste, canisters of slime that could be gathered up
Starting point is 01:00:19 and buried or incinerated. In a way, that's the very problem with the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. That's the problem it helped to solve when the concept was invented. Like its mirror image, the hole in the ozone layer. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:00:36 Like it's, I like that. Like its mirror image, the hole in the ozone layer, which he's admitting also, kind of didn't exist. It's amazing. It's crazy. I was a kid in that era.
Starting point is 01:00:50 When was that? That was the 80s, right? Yeah. When they were talking about that? Yeah. And I remember thinking... That was a big deal for a while. It was just real.
Starting point is 01:00:55 We were all going to burn up with cancer. Yeah. Because of the hole in the ozone layer. And then it fixed itself. And then another hole appeared and it fixed itself. Well, the Montreal Protocol, of course, was important. Montreal Protocol. But still, I mean, like...
Starting point is 01:01:12 It's when we stopped using canist of, you know, this is, this is what it's so frustrating about these environmental debates, though. They act as if, you know, it's one of those things is like, well, I, you know, it's like, it's like going to someone and saying, hey, I, you know, I just saw what you ate. And if you keep doing that, you know, that's going to, you're going to be 500 pounds. Well, it's Thanksgiving. Like, I eat that way on Thanksgiving. Then I don't eat that way other days. So when you realize if there's a major problem, which has happened at times, I mean, go back and look at like Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:01:44 in history when it was just a giant cloud of smoke over times when civilizations become more advanced and most importantly, more wealthy, they start caring about things like environmentalism. You don't care about it. You know, it doesn't care about those things are people who can't eat, right? It's when you get to a point where it becomes a luxury problem.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. And you care about it. So now you can focus on something else. On something else. And some of those, Some of those things are really important, but they're not imminent all the time. And that's why they have to use the phrasing we talked about. Scary scenarios.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Make it seem simple. Don't act as if we have any doubt because then people won't jump on board. That's why they always call it settled science. It's a settled debate. There's consensus. When there's nothing like consensus, we just had a list of, I don't know, 36,000 or something scientists who are not on board with it, at least not on board with.
Starting point is 01:02:43 catastrophic man-caused climate change. Many of them believe that the Earth is warmed somewhat. The question is why? And is that just part of the normal process of the planet? And of course it is because it happens all the time. Yeah, and there's multiple levels to the whole claim. And this is why they try to generalize it all. You don't believe, if you don't agree with Al Gore, you're a science denier.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yeah. But the Al Gore position and anyone on the left's position here is multifaceted. It's not just it has the earth warmed. Is the earth warmed? And is it caused by man? Not only is it caused by man, but is it almost entirely caused by man. And not only is it entirely caused by man, but will it run out of control and become a catastrophic situation? And not only does it run out of control and be a catastrophic situation, but do you agree with these policies to stop it, which is large amounts of government control?
Starting point is 01:03:34 And the answer to all those questions has to be yes, or your climate denier. All of them. You can't just, like, let's just say you're Elon Musk. Okay, I'm throwing this out here because he is very much on the global warming bandwagon. But let's say you're Elon Musk. And he goes down the bandwagon. He believes, yes, it's warmed. Yes, it's manmade.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yes, it's entirely manmade. Yes, it's catastrophic. But the way we're going to solve that is I'm going to create a solar panel company and I'm going to change the world with innovation. That's a global warming denier position if he were to believe it. He also believes in government intervention, so he's okay. But if he just believed, if he was a Coke brother and he said, you know what, I'm going to create a company that's going to solve this without one
Starting point is 01:04:11 dime of government funding or government regulation. Don't change regulations. Don't do this. Let me solve it. That person would be a denier. He'd be out for profit. He'd be an enemy of the state because this is all about government control. It's not about the environment.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It isn't. And of course, there are some crazy people who go really far on these things. I was just going back as I was finding that environmental constitution that we just kind of went over from Stephen Schneider about making false claims. Yeah. I found
Starting point is 01:04:42 that in an inconvenient book one of Glenn's first I think it was his first number one bestseller. And in there are a bunch of great quotes. There's a section called environmentalists say the darndest things and that's one the one quote I read
Starting point is 01:04:58 a minute ago is one of them, but listen to some of these. He's so classic. Dave Foreman, the founder of Earth First, said, phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental. It does create one additional
Starting point is 01:05:14 problem I can think of, which is no one's there to enjoy the paradise. Jacques Chirac, remember him? President of France. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. He was talking about the Kyoto Protocol, which was the first thing, you know, that was supposed to be the way that we stopped global warming, which
Starting point is 01:05:30 that we didn't sign on to. We didn't sign on to. Al Gore. Thank goodness. The Senate voted it down like 98 to nothing. But he said Kyoto is the first component of an authentic global governance. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:45 How about this is a classic, Paul Ehrlich, who is one of my favorites. I would take, he said this in 1969. Erlick was maybe one of the worst. He was really one of the worst. Yeah. But one of the most famous and was embraced by the environmental movement in his whole life. Very successful, very respected, except by those who pay attention to what he said then and what happened.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Because this is not some crazy person. This is someone who is a well-respected science. and embraced by environmentalists. He said in 1969, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000. That's a solid one. And of course, I've missed England for these last 18 years. It's been rough without it. Yeah, it's been tough.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I mean, look at Brexit. It's showing them. This is real. It's actually, England seems to be coming back to life and taking its own independence. Kind of. Yeah. How about in 10 years, all important animal life? All important animal life in the sea will be extinct.
Starting point is 01:06:44 He said this in 1970, by the way. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated. Yeah, but if he would have said that this year, I'd really be scared. Yeah. Of course, I don't think he's alive anymore. I don't think he is alive anymore. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. He said that in 1970.
Starting point is 01:07:03 1978. Again, think of the motivation behind this. What do we want with energy? We want people to be able to do what they want to do. air conditioning, all the amenities of life, not just for pleasure, but also for survival and civilization. He said, giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun. Said that in 1978. Unbelievable. Again, well respected. Yeah. Not just some lunatic. And wrong on everything. Absolutely everything. Prince Philip
Starting point is 01:07:31 from the World Wildlife Federation. If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. These are quotes. I mean, geez. George Monabot. I can never think of how this, how this is pronounced his last name. He was the environmental author. In 2006, said every time someone dies as a result of floods in Bangladesh,
Starting point is 01:07:57 an airline executive should be dragged out of his office and drowned. I mean, these people... Helen Caldicott from the Union of Concerned Scientists. Union of Concerned Scientists is a great group because they will constantly... They're the ones that get these... nice high profile articles. The release like, Did you know that having one diet soda every 16 years
Starting point is 01:08:16 will kill everyone in your family? They're those people. Everything is going to kill you. Every, every, you know, anytime a company does something, you're going to die. And here is the motivation behind it. Quote, free enterprise really means
Starting point is 01:08:30 rich people getting richer. They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process. Capitalism is destroying the earth. Again, it's, It's not just about the environment. It's about destroying capitalism.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah, because the green movement is the new communism. It just is. And some of them even admit that. Yeah. And this one is the most, in some ways the worst. This is from Michael Oppenheimer Environmental Defense Fund. The only hope for the world is to make sure that there is not another United States. We can't let countries that have have the same amount of cars, same amount of industrialization
Starting point is 01:09:05 that we have in the U.S. we have to stop these third world countries right where they are. I mean, what a, what a bastard. Yeah. I mean, think about that. Wow. These are people who are trying to live. I mean, that's true, racism right there.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah. That's amazing. And do you remember this Earth Day claim a few years ago? The world is using the equivalent of one and a half planets to support life on Earth. Wait, what other planet? Have we used half of? I didn't remember borrowing half of another planet. AAA 900.
Starting point is 01:09:40 No, AAA 727 BECK. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Glenn back. Coming up, Jeffrey's going to join us, and we're going to taste test the new Duncan Donuts donut fries. Oh, you can't miss this. They exist. We have them.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We are going to taste test them and give you important information for your July 4th holiday. Much bigger than the Supreme Court nominee. Oh, yeah. Much. That's about that. We're talking donuts. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Glenn Beck. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. You can also listen to my show, Pat, Grant Least, which immediately follows this on the Blaze Radio and TV network. And, of course, Stu and I'll be back, not tomorrow because it's 4th of July, but Thursday together. And then I'll be doing the show on Friday. And then Glenn will be back next week. And I think you're gone, aren't you? Are you going somewhere?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, I got a couple weeks off. I'm excited about it. Are you going anywhere? Going to see the family? Up in Connecticut. Okay. For a little... Should be a little cooler.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Family vacation, which will be very nice. And my mom's coming in to visit for a couple days. It's going to be fun. Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah. That'd be nice. You know, a little family time. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:10:48 A little family time. So I'm excited about it. Okay. Apparently Timothy Geiker, Geithner. Geithner is back in the news. And it's been so long since he's been in the news, I didn't even remember his last name. Yeah, you might remember him from the early Obama days. Secretary of Treasury.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yes. And he was, he was, he, he, he, he, one of the big issues with him is he used turbotax. He blamed turbo tax for his tax problems. Oh, that's right. Everyone's like, wait a minute, you can't have tax problems. And you're going to be the secretary of the treasury. You need to be able to pay your taxes.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. Well, he is back in the news and he's got a new business he's been working on. Okay. It's very exciting. What's he doing? You know how giving the Obama administration was. I was solving all of our problems. Obama phones.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Oh, yeah, Obama phones, right? Yeah. So this is he's kind of doing that. Obama phones, Obama cash. Yeah. He's basically doing that. It's now Gaitner cash, though. So what Gitner is apparently running a business, this is amazing. I didn't know this type of business existed.
Starting point is 01:11:44 It doesn't seem on its face to be a good business. What they're doing is the business is they send checks to poor people. Oh, well, that seems nice. They just send them free money? Yeah, but it doesn't seem like it's a good business. It seems nice, but it doesn't seem like a good business. No, it seems like you'd go broke doing that. Well, not if you do it this way.
Starting point is 01:12:07 What they're doing is they're sending checks to poor people. Okay. And when they receive the checks, they deposit those checks. I mean, are they big checks or like a dollar? $1,200, $2,000. No, wow. Some good chunk of cash. If you're like on the brink, right?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Maybe you've got a car repair that's just happened. That's one of the highlights stories they highlight here in the Washington Post today. And what is it? What is it? Is there something that accompanies it that says, Hey, here's a check from Timothy Geithner just because we really like you and we heard you're not doing well.
Starting point is 01:12:39 You seem nice. Uh-huh. I mean, I don't know you, but it seems like you might be nice because you're a low-income person and low-income people are generally nice. Yeah, generally nice. So here's some money.
Starting point is 01:12:50 We know you're not one of those evil rich CEOs, which those people are all bastards. Oh my gosh, you know that's true. I hate those people. The Koch brothers? Oh, God. Nobody more evil. You know how many Coke brothers there are?
Starting point is 01:13:01 They have a thousand brothers in that family. Wow. They're all trillion. millionaires. Wow. True. Well, they've got all of the world's wealth.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Right in that family. All of it. Nobody else has any wealth. Right. That's true. And they all, by the way, my favorite observation on the Koch brothers is really only two of them. And one of them just retired,
Starting point is 01:13:20 by the way. And they're both somewhat left of center. Generally speaking on social issues. They're libertarian leaning, although they seem to have an affinity for certain tax increases and strange things like that. But they're very like open borders. And while climate change has, been pinned on them, at least one of them agrees with climate change.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah. Believes in climate change. But what's interesting is like they're adults. Mm-hmm. Okay. When you're an adult, you don't become the, the blank brothers anymore, right? Like, you're just, you're two individuals. There's Charles and David, right?
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah. And so they, not only, I understood that they kind of like ran this business together, so they had similar levels of wealth, which would make sense. But if you look at them being listed, they'll just say they have the exact same amount of money. It's like they both have like $24 billion or something. It's like none of them made a different choice to like buy a truck when the other one didn't. There was never a time that one went out to dinner and spent a lot and the other didn't.
Starting point is 01:14:18 There was never a moment where one invested in something that didn't go right and the other invested in something that worked. There's never been any separation. They all they have the exact same accounts. Yeah. That's always amazed to me. Forever. So anyway, Tim Geithner is not at that level. But there's only two of them?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Because I thought there was, okay, there's Charles, there's David, Tito, Marlon, and Germain. No, I think you have that. Right. I think it might have something else confused there. Okay, maybe I'll walk you through that in a minute. Tim Geithner, though, is not that rich, and he does not have a brother named Marlon. Okay. He does have this company, however, in which, so they send checks to poor people.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Legitimately, that's what they do. So that people take the check and they deposit in their bank account, and all of a sudden, they have an extra $1,200 or $2,000. Now, of course, there's a level of you that would say, is there a string attached to this. That's how I would think about it. And some of the people they highlight actually did notice that. But the string attached is it's not just free money.
Starting point is 01:15:11 It's a loan. So when you deposit the check, you're agreeing to a loan. The loan, the terms of that loan are interesting. For example, Stephen Huggins received the check for a loan for $1,200. And he didn't want to deposit it at first because he actually realized, okay, this doesn't look right. He thought there's a string attached. The interest rate
Starting point is 01:15:33 33% Whoa 33% annual interest rate But his Chevy pickup Was in the shop He didn't have enough money To pay for the repairs So he needed the money
Starting point is 01:15:44 He decided to use the check He got $1,200 from the company Plus an additional 800 from a representative Later on Hundreds of dollars in processing fees Insurance and other items Plus interest
Starting point is 01:16:00 He's now up to $3,221 that he owes them for $1,200 loan? For the $1,000, I guess, totally he got. So he's up to $3,200. Jeez. And now he is being sued because he's not paying it back, I guess, fast enough. And so this is the way, what they're doing, because they've now added an extra $536 for extra fees that he's had to do to fight this.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And this finance company is going out. They're now saying it's $11.2 billion private equity fund that is at the charge of this. A president is, of course, Timothy Geithner, who is now they operate 450 branches in 22 states. And their business is sending these high interest loans to people who, in their worst moments, have to use them. And at 33%, now look, I am not a believer. You know, we've heard about predatory lenders. Exactly, yeah. That's the very definition.
Starting point is 01:17:02 of a predatory lender. Yes. Now, of course, these people can make choices, right? And to be, I've never liked the term predatory lending. But it is in fine print that most people aren't reading. And just at the very least, it's a disingenuous business practice. I don't have any problem. Like, people used to be like, oh, check cashing stores are the devil.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Like, you know, well, a check cashing store is okay for certain people who need it. Right. There's a market of people who can benefit from a check cashing store. Sure. And you know what? If you agree to the terms, you agree to the terms. You don't have to go. You agree to the terms.
Starting point is 01:17:38 You agree to the terms. That's the way these things work. They're voluntary transactions. And at times, however, some of these companies take advantage of people who might not be reading fine print or maybe not understanding it and making giant profits on it. And now the Obama administration has a nice representative running one of these situations. Geithner Is there any explanation from him on how he can live with himself doing this to people?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Especially people who can least afford it. Well, this is the thing, Pat. As Treasury Secretary, Geithner excoriated predatory lenders. Yes. And their role in the Wall Street meltdown of 2007. The financial, quote, the financial crisis exposed our system of consumer protection
Starting point is 01:18:23 as a dysfunctional mess, leaving ordinary Americans way too vulnerable to fraud at other malfeasance. Many borrowers, especially in subprime markets, jeez this guy, bit off more that they could chew because they didn't understand the absurdly complex and opaque terms of their financial agreements or were actively channeled into the riskiest deals.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Wow. You mean a risky deal like getting a check in the mail or a 33% loan? Could that be a risky deal? I mean, that is, again, I mean, if it was the evil Coke brothers doing something like this, they might have an argument to say, look, the terms are disclosed. Maybe you think we should read them in larger font. But these people make the choice.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And that'd be the lead story on every broadcast on CNN and MSNBC. To be fair, this is the Washington Post with an extensive analysis. And I mean, they did, they really dove into this. Now, look, I don't know what, you know, beating up on Tim Geithner does for the political discussion at this moment. Now, because now he's a capitalist and now it's okay to go after him. Wasn't okay to go after him when he was using turbotax. Wasn't okay to go after him when he's in the Obama administration and making the arguments about how evil predatory lending was. Now he's
Starting point is 01:19:36 out of there and he's a businessman, I guess you can go after him. But that being said, give credit to the Washington Post here for actually doing a little bit of work and exposing. I think, I don't know if it's anything illegal, but something really hypocritical anyway. Hypocritical, sure. You know who
Starting point is 01:19:52 has a better idea to help the port is Richard Branson. He's got a great solution. He's got a great solution to poor people, and that's to send them free money. Just give them free money. Not from Tim Geithner, but from the government. And the government just has a wellspring of money, and I don't know where it comes from. They've just got so much money, and they just give it to people.
Starting point is 01:20:13 So that's great. So this is a good idea. Is that the group that prints those green pieces of paper with the presidents on them? Yeah. Yeah, those are really cool. Those are cool. Have you used those? And they can keep doing that over and over and over.
Starting point is 01:20:26 You just print it and give it to people. As long as they have paper. Yeah. They had to get paper. You do have to have paper. That's why the environment is so important to keep trees available for us to print money. So he's also another guy that's on the basic income. You just get a basic income bandwagon.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Oh, geez. This is already failed. Becoming prevalent, though. There's a lot of talk of it. Yeah, they fail. Was it Finland or Denmark? Finland. It was Finland that did it.
Starting point is 01:20:53 And they abandoned the transaction. It was amazing. there's a podcast that featured this maybe 99% Invisible I think it was maybe and they did a whole thing on universal basic income first of all did you know that Nixon advocated for this? Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Which is kind of amazing. I mean Nixon, the ultimate Republican, right? Huge conservative that not only wanted universal basic income and experimented with it in the United States, by the way, but also wanted to ban all handguns. But other than that,
Starting point is 01:21:24 we're real hardcore conservative there. That's one of those guys that just, he becomes a conservative after the scandal, right? Like, you know, he was seen as mean. And look, he was a Republican as opposed to a Democrat. He was more conservative than some people in the country, obviously. But the idea that he was some ideological conservative is insane. He was a progressive Republican. Big time.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So anyway, he wanted to do that. Finland decided to try to do it. And they had that interview with a woman who was on the basic income giveaway from the Finnish government. And it was interesting what they decided to do. They didn't, they, you know, the idea here and the concept of the podcast was to say, what a wonderful way to design policy instead of going out and just like passing, let's say, Obamacare. They certainly didn't use that as an example, but just use it far as you.
Starting point is 01:22:11 You pass Obamacare. What they say is, all right, like, try things. You know, maybe you try Obamacare in one community. Maybe you try it over, you know, 10,000 people spread across the country. And that's what Finland decided to do. essentially did a lottery and in a way a real lottery in which they gave away money as universal basic income to a bunch of people. And I think it was just a few thousand.
Starting point is 01:22:35 It was a few thousand people. Yeah. So they interviewed one of them on this podcast. And she's like, you know, I just, I haven't had been able to get a job. And, you know, it's been really tough. And I just find myself constantly struggling to do the basic things. And now universal basic income is come in. And I get these checks every month.
Starting point is 01:22:52 And now I don't have to worry about those things. I'm able to focus on instead of just scrambling. every month to make my bills, I am able to focus on things that are more productive and spend time with my family and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you listen to the whole thing at the very end, you find out that she still hasn't gotten, she hasn't been able to get a job.
Starting point is 01:23:12 So it has, the idea was, okay, if you take the struggles of the every day out of these people's lives, they'll be able to focus on more important things, they'll be able to get a job, they'll be able to hold out for something that's a little bit better. And that's exactly what you want up doing. because all of her bills are paid,
Starting point is 01:23:26 she held out for something better and nothing ever came along. She didn't take the day-to-day work because she didn't need the day-to-day work anymore. She just did nothing. Now, she enjoyed her life a lot more, I'm sure, wouldn't you? If you didn't have to come in here,
Starting point is 01:23:40 blab every day, wouldn't that be fantastic? You just sit at home, all your bills are paid? Yep. That would be great. Yes, it would. Now, the society falls apart when you do that with everybody. As Ben Franklin said,
Starting point is 01:23:51 people should be made to be uncomfortable in their poverty. Ben Franklin was pretty smart, wasn't he? Smart guy. Yeah, there was a reason for it because if they're comfortable in their poverty, just keep taking what you give them. Yeah. AAA 727 Beck.
Starting point is 01:24:04 More of Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Beck program coming up. It's Pat and Stufer Glenn. Looks like Bono is upset. And he doesn't really direct this toward anybody, but you kind of get the impression he's talking about Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:24:22 He is saying that the United Nations and other international institutions, including the European Union and NATO, are now under threat. Good. Good. Now, that's not good to Bono because he thinks these are all, let's get together and be peaceful and loving to one another. And we can all talk about it at this wonderful organization. The UN needs to fold or be taken, just push it off this continent.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Get rid of the UN in the U.S. and get us out of the UN and let them go do whatever they want in Belgium. I don't care. Headquarter NATO and the UN in Brussels. I'm fine with that. And then we're not part of either one of them. We should get out of all these organizations.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Yeah, it's very, I mean, I don't know. I mean, NATO I have a stronger affinity to than the UN. I mean, the UN I see no value in at this point. None. None. I mean, not to mention we pay obviously for the whole thing, basically. But, you know, NATO is still as a, you know, I like, you know, NATO generally in that, you know, there is a, there's some value in a, you know, united front of, you know, the North Atlantic nations who aren't necessarily in the North Atlantic. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:25:43 But like, you know, similar thinking principled nations that stand together. I like that. Especially when it comes to defense in that, you like the idea that there's some. some alliance there. However, lots of asteris to that. It doesn't seem to operate correctly. You know, I mean, certainly there's very limited benefit for us. It's really more of a, of a, it's something we owe, right?
Starting point is 01:26:12 It's like, well, hey, some Baltic state just got attacked. We need to step in. Yeah. Right. Like, that's really the function of it. Like, there's not, it's not like, you know, Lithuania is going to jump in. I don't know, Lithuania is even in it. But like, you know, it's like, there's not going to be, people aren't
Starting point is 01:26:24 going to be jumping to our defense if we get attacked in any meaningful way. No. But there are international norms that have helped probably in the idea of increased war. We are in a period of downturn in violence due to war, despite the terrible narratives that we've heard, which is good. I mean, we have come in the right direction in that front. And NATO's been part of that. it is one of the things that I like about Trump. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:26:58 He doesn't care. He's American-centric. And if these organizations are one-sided or count on us too much like the UN, and man, that's certainly true, he's willing to get out there and say, yeah, we're not doing this anymore. This is a bad deal for us. We're not doing that. I like that. I do like that, too.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I don't know that I necessarily agree with those analysis every time he says it. A lot of times, you know, I don't necessarily think that he, I mean, the trade stuff. stuff would be my biggest problem. Yes. You know what I mean? A lot of times he says we have, he's been talking about these really bad tariffs with Canada and how they're hitting us with these terrible tariffs.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And it's like, well, actually, their tariffs are lower than ours. We have a trade surplus with Canada. Not a trade deficit. Trade surplus with Canada. You know, we... Buddy threw out a hot button issue and that's the 270%. 70%. But it's not even a real tariff.
Starting point is 01:27:51 ...tareg on milk. But it's not even a real tariff. It's a true tariff. two-tier tariff. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So it doesn't kick in.
Starting point is 01:27:57 We have almost no milk that actually falls under the tariff. And the thing he pulled out of, the TPP eliminated it. It was already gone. He pulled out of it. It was the only reason it's still there. And it really doesn't make any difference anyway. Yeah. Almost no dairy products fall under that tariff.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And that's been the one that they've talked about incessantly. And again, he's right in that there are problems with trade. other countries do things that are poor. I fully support his argument, Donald Trump's argument that he made when he talked to the G7, which was, hey, eliminate all tariffs for everybody. Now, I think most people ignored that because they don't believe he's serious about it. And I think he just threw it out there as a rhetorical device. But I support it fully.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Me too. And you know what? It is revealing that these other countries didn't go, okay, we'll take you up on that. You notice they didn't. Yeah. So I think that was the point Trump was trying to. make. I'd rather see it as a real policy. Go for it, man. Get rid of these things.
Starting point is 01:28:56 They're terrible. We eat donut fries. Next. Yes! Yes! This is the Glenn Beck program. Pat and Stu for Glenn today and being joined by Jeffie now. Thank you. Thank you. We heard about a new product that must be tried scientifically. It's just
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Starting point is 01:29:29 with all kinds of antioxidant power am I right? If you say those things then they're gotta be good and then they're good for you five in a pack.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Yeah you get five in a pack they have four I got ripped up they're they are donut sticks I would say they're not they're really like thick fries my guess is
Starting point is 01:29:46 these are just donuts in the shape of a french fry and so they're donut fries right? I mean I think that's what they're going for here yeah almost a chiro
Starting point is 01:29:53 yeah almost Yeah, you could say chiro. I see on the outside, if you see like salt would be on a fry, you see, I guess, a sugar or a cinnamon sugar type of vibe on the outside of it. They are, you know, about the size of your finger. Mm-hmm. And they smell pretty freaking good. I mean, donuts are good.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That's the thing. You start with something like donuts. And they're good for you. Absolutely. They're good for you. Am I right? I heard somewhere that they're prebiotic, probiotic. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Keto compatible? I heard that too. Now it doesn't say that here. All organic. It says here the five sticks. are 240 calories. For the five. It's not bad.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah, five grams of sugar, 14 grams of total fat. That's perfect. That's not bad. This is basically, you're right, kale or quinoa. It's like eating one of those.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Very similar to quino. Yeah. All right, let's give it a shot here. Dunkin' Donuts, donut fries. Oh. Mm.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's a donut in the shape of a fry. It needs syrup, though. It's almost like the French toastics. It's a sugar donut. Yeah, this is, in the shape of right. If they were hot still, but these came two hours ago,
Starting point is 01:30:59 so they're not hot. So getting them at the store would improve this experience. However, I will say a donut needs a thicker base because that's where the fluffiness lives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And because these are thin,
Starting point is 01:31:13 you're getting just like crunchy exterior of donut. And it's not, I mean, it's not, oh, yeah. And because they're cold, it loses a lot. So I'm going to say... Oh, wow. I'll get the rest of yours. Shocking.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Yeah, that is a stunning surprise. I didn't say I wasn't going to eat them. I'm just saying you're not spectacular. I'm supposed to have five. I only got four. You can have the rest of those. These are very underwhelming to me. Yeah, they're not worth the calorie intake.
Starting point is 01:31:43 No. Now, if you went to the store, you got them right out of whatever... Hot, fresh. Okay, maybe there's something there. They're okay. But these are... This is not a good delivery system for fries. I will say this at the Texas Rangers ballpark here in Arlington, Texas.
Starting point is 01:32:00 There is a stand right behind home plate which has waffle or not waffle funnel cake fries. Funnel cake fries are utterly amazing. I love them. But a lot of that stuff is like these as well. They got to be hot. You got to be hot. You got to get them fat. And also I would say this, with something like this, got to have dipping sauce.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Yes. You got to have it. Where's the, like, a raspberry dipping sauce here? Oh my gosh. The raspberry dipping sauce, are you kidding me? They'd be delicious. Yes. That's what's missing here.
Starting point is 01:32:34 The heat and a dipping sauce. I'm going to give these in eight. By the way, on a scale of one to 18. Jeff, you can only count it. 18. So that's where that came from. In the patent stew era. I would say this.
Starting point is 01:32:51 What I have here is, is the now empty bag of Jeffie's donut fries. I only had four of them. It was not even five. As we were talking, he ate the whole bag. So we do appreciate it. I was hungry. I was waiting for them. So it's not entirely true that you're a marathon eater
Starting point is 01:33:07 rather than a sprint eater. You really kind of both. You sprint and marathon. You sprint and just keep eating. Short distances, though I sprint. That's a surprise. I would have guessed another outcome. Shocking.
Starting point is 01:33:19 So is there anything potential? added value other than the donut fries that you're bringing to the table today? Me? Yeah. You're talking to me? Well, congratulations are in order. Oh. To Angela Ponce.
Starting point is 01:33:34 She's going to be the, she, he, going to be the first transgender woman to compete in the Miss Universe. I actually like this story because of the twist and it, there's a little bit of a twist. Well, with our president? Yes. Yes, that's kind of cute. But she's, she would have built that up a little bit. You didn't have to just ruin the surprise. Well, I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:33:54 The person responsible for her being. Oh, what do you mean? That was six years ago. Do you mean the park where they see dead people? Yes. Is that what you mean? You mean the part where he's dead the whole movie and you'll find out at the very, very end that's been dead the whole time. You thought he was alive?
Starting point is 01:34:12 Did I ruin that for anybody? You mean the part where Dr. is his father? Yeah, that's the part. But he wasn't the president, though. It doesn't matter that he was the president then. What matters is all they do is scream and yell about how evil he is. If you're in Glad or any of these organizations, they hate his guts.
Starting point is 01:34:35 When in fact, he's the most gay friendly president to ever be elected. There's no question. There's no doubt. It's hands down. And he is the one who changed the rule and cited with Glad. when this person sued. Well, he actually claims that he did that before. That was a bit of the fight that they had decided before the lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:34:57 That they were going to accept transgender people. Right, because the girl that was going to, that filed the lawsuit was with Gloria Alred who Trump hates. Yeah. And there's a tweet that he tweeted later saying, calling her a third rate lawyer and asking, is Gloria a man or a woman, a few men would know the answer to that one. Oh, she. Was that in 2012?
Starting point is 01:35:20 Yeah, a long time. He was a little more aggressive. And people think he's aggressive on Twitter now. Wow. They were not following him in 2012. Had I known, and he even said, we made the decision two days before we even heard that Allred was involved. Had I known she was involved, maybe I wouldn't have made the decision. She's so easy to beat.
Starting point is 01:35:38 So Spain's Angela Ponce is now the first ever transgendered person to compete in the Miss Universe pageant coming. Yeah, you know, good. Good for her. She beat out all the other contestants and she's out of way. In Spain. Yeah. So it was just headed to the contest. It would be interesting if Miss Universe is awarded to a person who was born a man.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Wouldn't that be fascinating? It just shows how far we come. Intriguing commentary. Plus, I think, too, there are, you know, there's so many people that are just trying to, they live their lives to try to do something that would make Donald Trump mad. Yeah. Right? Like, I would not be surprised if just because they think he,
Starting point is 01:36:18 They can say his old pageant is now won by a man who is actually a woman now would be a wonderful statement of tolerance in the society in which now, you know, because it's all hate. And, you know, the insolity is out of control, Pat. It is. The insolity of the right. It's out of control because of Donald Trump. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I know that. Only Donald Trump's civility could cause someone to want to murder Ajit Pai, his FCC director. Right. About net neutrality. And only Donald Trump's insolity could cause for somebody to threaten to chop up Rand Paul and his family with an axe. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Red Paul. Rand Paul's had a tough year. He was at the ballpark, right? Then he got, then the neighbor attacked him. And then he's had this guy threatening him. Right. I mean, that's all in this last year. I know. Was he at the baseball game? Yeah. He was at the shooting of the baseball? I don't remember for sure, was he? Yeah. You're positive. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I mean, I've got no confidence. You have your computer right in front of you. Look it up. Zero confidence in Jeffrey's servitude. I will say this. This is something I had discovered about Jeffrey many, many years ago. Is that his confidence level in between something like, you know, what is your wife's name or your son's name? His confidence level in that fact and his confidence level in something he has absolutely no idea about.
Starting point is 01:37:44 He presents them the exact same way. And you're like, oh, really? Oh, okay. So really, that's the basic of quantum physics? Absolutely. Absolutely. You're positive of that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Oh, yeah. Fact. And then you read it and you're like, wait a minute. That's not it at all. It was completely wrong. He just walks through the door. I'm pretty sure that was right. Like, Jeff, he's like the ultimate wedding crusher.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Like, he could just walk into a wedding and just he's just going to look like the family and people are going to be talking to him and asking him things. You're like, absolutely. That has to be a big family if he looks like it. I mean, that's one gigantic family. Really? Is there such a family on this planet? I don't.
Starting point is 01:38:27 And outside of the animal kingdom, is there such a family? That's all I'm asking. You're welcome. By the way, we should point out, chewing the fat with Jeffie happens every day on the Packray Unleashed program. Yes, it does. It's a good time to remind you of that. And you can listen to the podcast or watch it on thebleeds.com. slash TV. Thank you for that reminder.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Appreciate that. And sometimes things like this happen as I watch every day. That's it from time to time. Once in a while. You know, yesterday we talked about, I know you talked about the trash pile. The garbage batch. That was a revelation. Yeah. That started with, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:06 the bull, well, first it started with the bullying of whales. That's a common thing that I'm taking on now. There was a pilot whale that was bullied into eating 80 plastic bags. And it killed him. And it killed him.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I don't know how many plastic bags Pilot whales can eat and live, but 80s too many. 80s and one, at least one too many. Yes. So is this Donald Trump's fault too? Did Donald Trump bully him into... I don't know if it was Donald Trump or not,
Starting point is 01:39:33 but somebody bullied this pilot whale. Incivility of the Trump administration has affected this entire planet and every living thing on it. Every living thing. And that's why we can attribute his insolity to this death of a pilot whale. Well, I will say there's one thing that both Pat and I unite on is we are against bullying.
Starting point is 01:39:51 We want to make sure no. Oh, I mean, that goes without saying. I don't know why you'd even say something like that. Oh, I just want to make sure people understand. We're just reinforcing because we never bully anyone. Yeah, no, I never. We wouldn't. Why are you looking at me?
Starting point is 01:40:03 We might say the truth about certain people. Oh, sure. Well, the truth has to be stated. You know, but that's just us being honest and forthright. It's like if Jeffrey comes in and asks, does my fat make me look fat? Of course, we're going to say yes, it does. we wouldn't lie to him about that. He doesn't ask that all that often, but we do answer it.
Starting point is 01:40:20 But we do answer it. Truthfully. Just in case. Thank you. Just in case he was asked. Oh, you look like you're going to ask a question. Yes. Now I know what the yes means.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Thank you so much for that. You're welcome. So what's your rating? One to 18 on the donut fries. You know, what did you give it? I think I get more like a six. That was almost an eight, right?
Starting point is 01:40:42 I was a seven. Yeah. I just, I think I landed at seven. I don't know. Maybe if it had some milk or something, whether it might be better. I don't know. I haven't decided yet. You know, sometimes I think I miss the Patton-Stu show and then I remember Jeffie doing this. I remember this happening so often. A milk thing for whatever reason. He must bother us with the milk thing.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Oh, you have a glass of milk. It would be good with it. Is there anything that could make it better? You'll maybe be some milk. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for this, Jeffrey. You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Thank you. We're really happy to have you here. And yes, your fat makes you look fat. Well, I didn't. I didn't ask. Pat and Stu for Glenn. On the Glenn Beck program. We live in a divided country, Pat.
Starting point is 01:41:32 No. Very divided. In fact, a divided globe. Did you know that? No. A divided globe. They did a, BBC did a poll of a bunch of countries and asked, do you think your country is divided? Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Okay. What do you think the U.S. percentage was? People who think. the, that were divided. Oh. It's expected to be very high, right? Yeah. And it is, uh, 84%.
Starting point is 01:41:56 84% say the U.S. That's extremely high. Yeah. Okay. It's not number one of the list. What, one thing I would say is a pretty amazing is two points ahead of South Africa. Yeah. You look at the example of a divided country.
Starting point is 01:42:10 You'd think of South Africa. Only 82% of people in South Africa say their, uh, their country is divided. However, not. the highest. Where did we place? Can you say? Let's see. One, I think there's 19 total. We were one, two, three, four, five, sixth of the listed countries to actually tie with a few others. Poland, 84%, Spain, 84%, Brazil, 84%. I mean, every country, what I think is interesting about this is pretty much every country thinks they're divided. Yeah. There's only a couple of exceptions to this, and they're not places you necessarily want to live. Saudi Arabia, only 34% say they're divided. Wow. China, only 48. percent say they're divided. Those are the only two countries under 50. Japan 52, Turkey 65, India 66, France 75 percent say they're divided. Mexico 78, Germany 81, Russia 81, South Africa 82, Brazil 84, Spain 84, U.S. 84, Poland, 84. The UK 85. So they think they're even more divided. Italy, 92 percent say they're divided. Wow. Italy. Italy.
Starting point is 01:43:19 What are they divided over? I mean, Marinera versus Alfredo? Maybe. Could be. Argentina, 92% say they're divided. Number one wasn't stunning to me. 93% of people in Serbia. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:35 I kind of think, okay, yeah, they're pretty divided. Yeah, they make some sense. They're pretty divided. And do they even know what they're fighting about? Because Americans sort of don't. That was a, that Serbian thing was, strange because I don't think a lot of Americans knew what the issues were or whose side we should be on. Who is the good guy who was not? Because if you remember, it was Christians against Muslims there.
Starting point is 01:44:03 That's not how it was presented, but that's essentially what was at the root of the problem. And we were on the side of the Muslims. Right? Against the Serbian Christians. It's a bizarre one. It's interesting. And we're never given credit for having helped. Muslims in Serbia? Anybody ever said, hey, remember when the U.S. helped Muslims, remember?
Starting point is 01:44:27 They took the battle to the Christians in that particular war. It's amazing. So how much Civil War genocide talk coming up on Packer and Leash today? 100%. Oh, really? The whole show dedicated to a Serbian genocide. Wow, wow. Definitely wanted to tune in on July 3rd.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Glenn, back. Mercury.

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