The Glenn Beck Program - IRS Whistleblowers DESTROY Joe Biden's LIE About Hunter's Business Dealings | Guests: Alan Dershowitz & Kimberley Strassel | 7/20/23

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

Glenn highlights the House Oversight Committee hearing over alleged IRS manipulation of the investigations into Hunter Biden. Glenn discusses the odd difficulty of his audiobook getting approval for s...ale on Amazon. Attorney and author of "Get Trump" Alan Dershowitz joins to discuss the potential indictment coming from Georgia and whether it's legally sound. Recovering investment banker Carol Roth joins to discuss the leftist idea of "renting the American dream" and how not owning anything destroys the American dream. "The Biden Malaise" author and Wall Street Journal columnist Kimberley Strassel joins Glenn to compare the disastrous performance of President Biden compared to former President Jimmy Carter. Glenn and Stu discuss the future of AI and its role in entertainment.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:25 is man enough to be on the program today he should have been smotein a long time ago smote but smoot smoot smoot smote smooten smote you so my But I didn't. And you should have been smoking many, many years ago. But here we are in this cesspool of corruption. And Stu is here to make sure that we cover it all. Yeah, well, we'll see how much he wants to really cover of that Hunter Bight. We have the videotape, Stu, of you, Hunter Biden.
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Starting point is 00:04:41 Oh, so you're just doing it to fit in. To fit in. I want to be part of the cool kids club. And I had absolutely no idea what business my son was in. I don't have any idea. You never talk to your son about any of his business dealings whatsoever? No. Wait, we heard.
Starting point is 00:05:00 No, and he's been in. Earlier this week where you talked to your son about the new job he was taking this week. No, that's what you. you think well i talked to him about that just not all of the prostitution drug and uh taking of money from foreign uh nationals okay i i mean i don't even he may not be doing that he probably probably not what he's doing that i don't know i've never talked to him about it so uh that kind of that story's kind of falling apart now isn't it i mean just a little bit and uh yesterday let me start Let me start here with Jim Jordan setting the stage.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Cut 12. You know whose story hasn't changed? These two guys. Their testimony has been consistent. Throughout their testimony has been the same. And guess what? Two days ago, an FBI agent confirmed their testimony. Who are you going to believe?
Starting point is 00:05:57 The Justice Department can't get their story straight, changed three times in 33 days, or these two guys? The Justice Department that was found to censor Americans just two weeks ago from the federal court in Louisiana, the Justice Department that said moms and dads are terrorists, the Justice Department that said if you're a pro-life Catholic, you're an extremist,
Starting point is 00:06:18 the Justice Department that can't get his story straight are these two guys. Ten years over a decade of experience for each of them, the go-to guys in international tax evasion cases, the A-team when it comes to investigating these matters all over the world they've done this, and who've been consistent throughout. I think I'll believe these guys. I think they're the ones telling the truth. And that is fundamentally what this comes down to. So God bless you guys for the work you've done, the courage you have, and for being here today,
Starting point is 00:06:48 stepping forward because you care about equal treatment under the law. That's what's at stake, plain and simple. Now, there is a push for a special counselor, the special counselor, the special council to look into the I I'm not sure what more you need. I mean it's all on videotape and they have all the documents and they have 80 notices from the different banks that they were using saying we think this is money laundering. I mean I don't know how much more you need to be able to to indict but I don't know. We should ask we should ask them about Donald Trump because they got so much on him. Let's let me show you how some of the things that these guys testified and how this is all coming together.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Now this is one of the guys top of the top of the IRS. He's the whistleblower Gary Shapely. He said they wanted to interview Hunter Biden. And here's what happened. Three. The FBI SSA and I were assigned with interviewing Hunter Biden that day. And the day previous, we went to the L.A. FBI field office and asked them to the special agent in charge to contact the Secret Service special agent in charge from the LA field office at 8 a.m. on the morning of December 8th and tell them that two agents were going to approach Hunter Biden to, and as part of an official investigation. and the night before, all of that changed.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And all of that changed because FBI headquarters and Secret Service headquarters coordinated, and that information had gotten out to everybody the night before. And we can talk about whether it's a highly political investigation and all of those different things. But there's another group of people that was made aware of that the night before wasn't there. Yeah, that's correct. And that would be the transition team. That's correct. And the transition team is a political operation set up to,
Starting point is 00:08:57 to help the president-elect vet cabinet employees, work on inauguration, do all of those things. I mean, is that your understanding? Generally, yes. They have any special investigative powers I don't know about? Not that I would know of. Your entire history and working in history with the IRS,
Starting point is 00:09:16 you ever worked with a transition team of a resident to help set up an interview with a subject of a criminal investigation? I have not. Last question, do you ever get to interview, Hunter Biden? We did not interview him. Holy cow. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Lappable. Stunning. This is the same quality of investigation we got from the cocaine in the White House. They're just like, yeah, we're just going to give up. We're not even going to talk to people who may have been in the room. I mean, they won't talk to the principal. They never interview the person that they're talking about here? I mean, it's insanity.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You know the person that should be impeached is Merritt Garland. absolutely, totally, positively, he should be impeached because he's the one that is pulling all of the strings for this. Listen to this. He goes on to talk about what the DOJ also allowed. I think this is the next cut. Cut four. The Justice Department allowed the president's political appoint to use the way in
Starting point is 00:10:16 on whether they're charged the president's son. After United States Attorney for D.C., Matthew Graves, appointed by President Biden, refused to bring charges in March 2020. I watched United States Attorney Weiss tell a room full of senior FBI and IRS senior leaders on October 7th, 2022 that he was not the deciding person and whether charges were filed. That was my red line. Huh, that's a different story.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Now, the other whistleblower, his name is Ziegler, cut five. Listen to this. There was an environment when we were interviewing people, when we were interviewing witnesses, where you were afraid to ask questions. questions that could lead to the presidential campaign. And this is after the campaign's over. So questions like that, it was restricted, so things like that, we were limited to talking about. Who's running things?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Here he is again, cut six. I will also note that while the impression has been conveyed by the U.S. attorney in Delaware, that he has similar powers to that of a special counsel. in this case, free rein to do as needed. That was not the case. It appeared to me, based on what I experienced, that the U.S. attorney in Delaware in our investigation was constantly hamstrung, limited and marginalized by DOJ officials, as well as other U.S. attorneys. I still think that a special counsel is necessary for this investigation. One last, one last one last one, here he is laying out the money trail against Hunter Biden cut eight.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Let's get into the evidence, Mr. Siegler. I want to direct you to pages 99 and 100 of your transcript. How much money did Hunter Biden and his associates receive from the Romanian company you identified? So that amount would be from Romania. So the approximate total transfers from the Romania company would have been 3.1 million to everyone. 3.1 million. How much did Hunter Biden in his business association? received from State Energy H.K. Limited through the Robinson Walker LLC.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So total transfers from State Energy H.K. to Rob Walker was 3 million. Three million. Was there a $100,000 payment from CEFC infrastructure to Owasco PC, Hunter Biden's professional corporation? Yes, Chairman. Approximately, how much was transferred to Hunter Biden and his business associates through Hudson West 3? So the total transfers from Hudson West 3 to everyone was 3.7 million. 3.7 million. How much money did Hunter Biden and his business associates receive from the Ukrainian company Burisma?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Burisma paid to everyone involved 6.5 million. 6.5 million. Burisma also paid Blue Star Strategies and a law firm hundreds of thousands of dollars, bringing the total Burisma payments to over $7 million. Is that correct? That is correct. 7.3 million. look at the money.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And what is it that Hunter Biden was doing exactly? I mean, how much would you pay the drug addict? How much would you pay the guy who's selling, buying, crack, smoking it all the time, seemingly very undependable and going through hookers, one right after another every day? How much would you pay for that employee? because I'm pretty sure it would be a little less than $7.4 million. What did he add? What did he add?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Now, if anybody is questioning who these people are, here let me play cut one. This is the first whistleblower who talks about who he is. Listen. There's no benefit from me blowing the whistle on this case. Absolutely none. I have no book deal. And the only money that goes into my bank,
Starting point is 00:14:21 account every two weeks is from my employment for the federal government. Listen to the other guy, cut seven. I've recently discovered that people are saying that I must be more credible because I'm a Democrat who happens to be married to a man. I'm no more credible than this man sitting next to me due to my sexual orientation or my political beliefs. The truth is my credibility comes today from my job experience with the IRS and my intimate knowledge of the agency's standard and procedures. I was raised and have always strived to do what is right. Although I do have my supporters, others have said that I am a traitor to the Democratic Party and that I am causing more division in our society. I implore you to consider that if you were in my position with the facts as I have stated them,
Starting point is 00:15:11 ask yourself if you would be doing the exact same thing. I hope that I am an example to other WBTQ people out there who are questioning doing the right thing at the potential costs themselves and others. How is this not the topic and not the only talk in Washington, D.C.? This is so clear cut. Well, the good news is you have men like Mitt Romney on it. And yesterday, Mitt Romney commented cut 12. You don't have it yet? All right, let me take a quick break and then come back.
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Starting point is 00:17:06 Relief Factor Sleep from Relieffactor.com. 10 seconds, station ID. I think this is stunning news yesterday. It's what anybody, if you're paying attention, was talking about. This is so clearly an open-shut case, and everybody in Washington is paying attention to it. Yesterday, Mitt Romney made this statement. Well, as you all know, today is National Hot Dog Day. And perhaps you also know that hot dog is my favorite meat.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I love hot dogs. I love them in buns. I love them outside of buns. I love them with baked beans. I just like hot dogs. It's the best meat there is without question. So to all of you who like me are celebrating a national hot dog day, congratulations to you,
Starting point is 00:18:05 and may there be many, many more hot dogs served in our wonderful land. Wow. That's great. I mean, that is a take down. You know, that should be under the headline. Mitt Romney destroys Hunter Biden, you know, and his criminal family. He does love the. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 He loves weeners. In the buns, out of the buns. And notice the Freudian slip where he says it's an international hat, a hot dog day. When he's wearing a hat with a hot dog on it, I think he's saying something there. Might have been a little graft. Might have been somebody stopping by the old office saying, here, have a hot dog and maybe a hat. Why don't you promote us? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Mm-hmm. Is there a little under Biden? How many hot dogs did Mitt Romney get just to do that little ad for them? I'll bet you, I'll bet you two or three. I'll bet you two or three happen. And then after that, he's going to be all over the other hot dogs and the impeachment proceedings. I don't know about you, Stu, but I feel good about justice in America today. Do you now?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Because I'm not exactly on that page with you after watching a lot of this. I mean, because they, I mean, I know the hot dog thing is important, but. You see person after person going through all this data and all of this stuff that's backed up with the documents, right? Like, this is not, I mean, maybe what's the argument here for him not being charged already? Is it just that, okay, these things are really shady but not necessarily fully illegal? I mean, I don't even know what the arguments are. Certainly the prostitution is illegal. We know that.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Certainly the drugs are illegal. We know that. But, you know, I guess that might be good at the facts. I don't know. money laundering of about $30 million so far. I don't know. George Washington law professor Jonathan Turley said that the House Democrat has tripped the wire on Joe Biden during the hearing yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:10 He argued the exchange between Dan Goldman and one of the witnesses, the Internal Revenue Service whistleblower Gary Shapley, undermined the president's denial that he ever spoke to his son about the younger Biden's business dealings. Goldman pointed to a moment in Shapley's prior testimony in which he quoted Hunter Biden business associate Rob Walker, informing the FBI that Hunter Biden told his father at a lunch meeting with executives of the Chinese energy group, CEFC. I may be trying to start a company or try to do something with these guys. Now let me ask you something, Goldman said.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Does that sound much like Joe Biden was involved in whatever Hunter Biden was doing with the CEFC? If Hunter Biden is telling him he's trying to. do business with him, does it? In response, Shapley said no, but it does show that he told his father that he was trying to do business when he was talking to his father about business. Another moment, Goldman threw his hands in the ear and said, okay, well, that is true. Hunter Biden does try to do business. That's correct. On Twitter, Turley said Goldman just tripped the wire on Joe Biden. In trying to grill the whistleblowers to show there was no evidence that Joe Biden was involved, he elicited an answer that the witness established that Joe Biden did discuss business deals with Hunter and the Chinese.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Goldman was trying to show that the witness didn't mention a substantive role of Joe Biden. Shapley immediately noted that it didn't mean that he came to discuss one of Hunter's deals. The president continues to deny this fact. Goldman prompted the sworn statement from the investigator that Biden did indeed discuss his son's business deals. In doing so, Goldman may have delivered one of the most damaging moments in the hearing for the Biden's. After Shapely made the point about Joe Biden talking to his son about business, Goldman went on to state the IRS agent had no direct evidence connecting Biden to Hunter Biden's business deals before moving on with his questioning.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Turley, in ending his Twitter thread, said if Goldman had to continue his line of inquiry about Biden business deals a few more minutes, it would have sealed the case for the appointment of a special counsel. This is Jonathan Turley, who I don't always agree with, but he always speaks his mind and doesn't seem to play sides. He sides with the Constitution. Sometimes it doesn't work out the way I would like it to work out, but to me that's what gives Jonathan Turley any kind of credibility. Back in just a minute.
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Starting point is 00:24:50 All right, let me talk to you a little bit about Dark Future. Just got the New York Times bestseller list. The number one book on the New York Times this year or this week for the first week of Dark Future. Take a guess. We're number one, right? Come on. Of course. That's a big book. Yeah, we're number one.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, no, we're, we're not number one. But we're not number one because there was a big book out that is, you know, but beyond the story, 10-year record of BTS, which apparently is some Korean pop band. Okay. Yeah. So that's a, that's a big cultural buzzsaw you're running into on that one, right? Yeah, yeah. So you, you understand that.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah. I mean, no, but, you know, yes. I'm not surprised to see a book about BTS selling very well. Right. Even though I have no idea who BTS is, I know I'm not your standard American. Outlive was number two. And the wager was number three. Now, I want you to know, Dark Future sold more than double Outlive and three times as many books as the wager.
Starting point is 00:26:02 But that's why we're not number one. Number four is not bad. You know, look, on the New York Times. Well, we're number 12. Oh. We're number 12. We're number 12. We're number 12, which is great.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. So we got that going for us. Now, one of the things. They've legitimately stopped trying. The New York Times list. At one point, they would be like, okay, hey, there's two books that are very close. We'll put the liberal one ahead of it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That was their approach 10 years ago. Yeah. Now it's like, if you're conservative, we're putting you, it will not be within the double digits. You have, you're only in double digits range. I don't think. think there's anybody that even comes close. I mean, another conservative, are they all this bad? I mean, I was number 15 when we were number one last time. Now, I'm number two behind K-pop and, uh, we're number 12. How is that even possible? I don't even get it. Have you considered talking more about
Starting point is 00:26:56 K-pop? I mean, have you considered maybe joining a band getting into the movement a little bit, you know? I mean, I think you'd be pretty impressive as the frontman of a K-pop group. Well, I'm thinking, about it. I am thinking about it. I've never been to Korea. Like Korean food, really like Korean barbecue, that is, that is all me. I could be, you know, instead of BTS, I could be BbQ, Korean BBQ. That would be the name of your band, wouldn't it? It would be. It would be. Yeah. So anyway, the other thing that has happened that you should know of, and I haven't really mentioned this because we wanted it to actually go on Amazon. We've never seen anybody who has had a book and, you know, has the business that we have in book sales and the, you know, almost 20-year
Starting point is 00:27:48 relationship with Amazon where we submit the book and the digital book and the audio book. And for some reason, only the hardcover was for sale. Don't know. I don't know how that one happened, but it And I was told not to say anything because they're like just just don't just don't say anything just let's just hope they put it up So it is up now. Congratulations. Thank you Amazon. It's been great. It's been efficient And good doing business with you. I love a business that treats you like this and then takes 50% of everything I will say someone who reads a lot of digital books and I know yeah of course they'll probably be deleted from my record at any time. But like, it's kind of a, kind of a bummer to have no available Kindle book or
Starting point is 00:28:40 audiobook for the first couple weeks of sale. Yeah. Well, seeing, not a good approach. Seeing that we were, yeah, seeing that we were number two and number 15,000 on digital, we didn't even have a product on digital. That's a little weird. It's a little weird. But it's available now.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So if you only read things digitally, I urge you to get a copy of the hardbound, but it is out digitally today and the audiobook. And I have to tell you, I have, stop me if I'm mistaken, Stu, but I don't think I have ever said this about any of the audiobooks that I do. You know, the audiobooks are good. This one, I think if it wasn't, if I were, you know, Al Gore, this one would win a Grammy. Because it is a really, really funny, believe it or not, read.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I added a lot to the book. Probably shouldn't have. Yeah, I don't think that's, because I listen to some audio books, too. And I will say that the approach that you take for an audiobook is much different than every other audiobook that I've ever consumed. And what they say at the end is like, this has been an unabridged version of whatever book you're just read. and usually what that means is they kind of just read all the words in the book.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like that's how this is supposed to work. That's not how you do this. Yeah, I don't like that. You read all the boards of the book, but then you add like chapters and bonus things. There may have been one, there may have been one place where I went, nah, that's not really right. Let me say it this way. You know, there's a, there's a few, you know, because I act some of the book out. And when it's a three-way conversation with Klaus Schwab,
Starting point is 00:30:31 a German, a Russian, and a guy from Saudi Arabia, it gets a little dicey. It gets a little dicey. So it's good. You're going to love it. You're really going to love it. Make sure you grab the audiobook of it. Now you can download it and listen to it. Now I don't know how long you're going to quote, own it.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You might want to burn it down to, you know, something, you know, some sort of a disc or something. Did you hear what happened to one of your favorite? shows, Stu. Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Yeah, I was reading about this. You know, they, they, it's been a sort of controversial thing for people who like that show for a while that they pulled up three or four episodes, um, over the years. And the main excuse for this was like blackface use. You know, we went through that period where Democrats all came out. They all apparently used blackface for years and years and years and years and years. It became controversial again. and they went after it's always sunny in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Now, of course, if you watch that show, they're not glorifying blackface or trying to make fun of black people with black face. They are making fun of terrible people who are either idiots or horribly racist themselves, and they're trying to make fun of them. No. Stu. Stu. When George Soros and Hillary Clinton started their little organization to destroy people,
Starting point is 00:31:56 they did not name it, context, matters. No. Or truth matters. They named it media matters. Okay? So forget the context. It has to go.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah. Then that's what seemingly has happened. I mean, there's at least reports of this happening where they've pulled multiple episodes of, now there is, I think it was three or four initially. And now, reportedly it's up to like 12 or something of that nature.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah. Like there's more and more people. Isn't that like a whole season? Yeah, I mean, the show is the longest running live action sitcom and television history. So they have a lot of episodes. But still, it is incredible that you pull that many, right? I mean, like, it is. And I will say watching the show, because it's one of those shows you dip into, right?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like, I don't need to watch every episode. I need to watch them all in order. But every once in a while when I've got 15 minutes or 20 minutes and I'm sitting around, I'll pop on an episode. And there's a lot in there that's really offensive. like I'm sort of shocked any of the episodes are up there I've never watched it and it
Starting point is 00:33:04 I've never watched it because it's described like that and that is I mean that's that's a drug to me that's I would have been watching the entire season like trying to get it in before every show I'd be I get off the show and then I just I'm just watching
Starting point is 00:33:20 Sunny in Philadelphia and then I've I you know the alarm goes off and I started the day before right after the show and I'm like holy cow, I got to do a show again? Yeah. I mean, I would just, I would mainline it. It's very, very dark and very, and very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But, you know, very offensive. And, but that's the point of it, right? Like, the point of the show, it's a show about people who are terrible and do terrible things to each other and treat people terribly. And you're not supposed to look at them as heroes. The point of it, it's like breaking bad. It's like, you know, Walter White did a lot of offensive. and breaking bad, like murdering people, but we keep the shows on because we all understand.
Starting point is 00:34:02 We're not sitting here saying, oh, well, we're really praising Walter White. Everyone should start killing people. With things like race, for some reason, like we aren't adults at all, and we can't all understand what's going on here, which is, you know, we're criticizing people for bad behavior. You know, I don't know. Can you even play Adolf Hitler anymore in a movie? Like, why is that allowed? I would, I wouldn't, but, I mean, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:34:27 so many good. I mean, I don't think it would be the best for your career to don a little mustache. I mean, look, some of the best, you could look back and find some of the great movies of history. I mean, like, we talk about Valkyrie all the, and I love Valkyrie. I don't know if a lot of people classify it as the great moment in his movie of history, but I really like it. It's a great movie. Someone's got to play Hitler in it.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Like, I'm sorry. Lots of bad stuff happens in that movie. Should we pull the movie? I mean, they were murdering people all over the place. Why are we allowing that? We should offer those roles to people like Louis C.K. Who just can't get a job. We've canceled them already.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Louis, take one for the team. There you go. I like that. That's the way we can bring these Me Too people back. Kevin Spacey can play all these roles. Let him at least eat. You know what I mean? Or another thing we could do is we could give those roles to the dwarf actors that got kicked out of Snow White.
Starting point is 00:35:26 because Adolf, he's just like going to be 3-8 for a movie and we're all just accepted. It would be hysterical. It'd be hysterical to have a little person playing Adolf Hitler.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah, I like that. That would be a great movie. How have we not made this movie? I don't know. I don't know. And it's just all dwarfs. We might. I mean, they lost all their jobs.
Starting point is 00:35:52 The seven dwarfs. Like, they're supposed to get those. rolls. No. No, one did. There is one. They did get one. One dwarf in, they did get one. They got one. All right. Don't forget, you can get the audio book and the digital book. Yeah. Yeah. You can get it right now at wherever you buy your digital books or your audio books. It's available. It's called Dark Future and the audiobook is really good, really good. Better really. Honestly, really, honestly. better than this crap I'm doing right now. I'm just trying to be honest with with you. Okay. Our sponsor, this half hour is Car Shield. You're going to have problems eventually.
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Starting point is 00:37:59 Who would? Why would you? I was thinking about when they asked that question, like, what's the last time you checked your home title? Would someone, does someone actually do that? Has there been a case of this in history where someone wanted to check? usually the only time you check it is when you're a victim of home title fraud and you realize you no longer own your home and that's happened to so many people across the country. Home title fraud is one of the fastest growing crimes in America and you know we've seen so many stories over the years as I've been talking about home title lack of people who've gone to their house and they're just like thinking every day thing is normal.
Starting point is 00:38:28 There's another family moving in. One home was bulldozed when they were gone thinking you know the new home it wasn't the new owner's fault. They just didn't know. They thought they had bought the house from someone else. They thought they had ownership of it. And this stuff happens to people. Most of the time it's not bulldozing. Most of the time it's just a huge paperwork hassle.
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Starting point is 00:39:50 Uncovering the Great Resets, next phase, terrifying next phase, bestseller. Okay, let me just click on that. That says Kindle Edition. Available instantly. I got it, I got it. Hardcover. But not the audiobook.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Why isn't the audiobook there? I don't see the audiobook either. The audiobook, it was. book. It was there this morning. I will say this is just another Glenn Beck lie. You know, typically this is what you get when you come to this show. You're going to get someone who comes on the air and tells you false things over and over and over again, just like the audiobook is available. So good luck. Good job, Glenn. It was there. It was there. Oh, was there. Oh, yeah. And Hunter didn't know he was paying those women for sex. Was that really
Starting point is 00:40:34 cocaine? He thought he thought it was sugar. I mean, we all know your patterns here. Glenn. That is really so frustrating. What the hell? Well, it's only two weeks since release. What do you? Yeah, I mean, don't worry. It's not impacting sales at all.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Okay, so you can buy the Kindle. That's available. Kindle is up. I just got that. Where is? I'm just getting something from my CEO of my company. What the hell is? happening with the audio book.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I got three little dots. Three little dots. He's answering now. Okay. Well, we will, I'm sure it's on the way, you know. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. There's nothing nefarious going on or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I mean, we're not a trusted source. We haven't, we haven't sold millions and millions of books and audio books with through Amazon. What, right? I mean, they got to button it up. Make sure that we're a trusted source. So we got that going for us. Anyway, you'll be able to get it there soon.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Otherwise, I'm just going to dump it online. How's that? How's that? You won't make any money. Yeah, well, it's better than not making any money and not having anybody hear it. See, this is the problem. So he just writes, yeah, no audiobook for me either. I'm sorry, doesn't have the immediate answer.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I swear to you it was there this morning because I downloaded it this morning or I tried to. Let me see if it even. I was in the middle of the show and I said, let me get some clips of it. And I went and I thought I hit download, but it doesn't show that I actually did download it. Well, thanks. Amazon. It's great. No.
Starting point is 00:42:36 You can get the Kindle book. And one of these days, kids, you'll be able to listen to it. digitally. I know it's far out in the future. It's a very difficult thing. But the little people at Amazon, and I don't mean to imply they're all dwarves, the little people at Amazon are working tirelessly to figure out how they can bring my voice to your phone or computer. Maybe they'll have it done today. Oh, one could hope. The Glenn Back Program. If you're one of those people who have to deal with embarrassing sweat just about any time you get into a public situation. It really sucks. And sometimes you just want to find a hole to jump into. These days, you can project confidence because
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Starting point is 00:44:12 Welcome to aboard of VIA Rai. Embarked and profite. Embarked and relaxed. Cirotay. Bookine. Oh, that also. And profite. Viaray, the voice that we love. What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. There is a time. going on. We can't seem to get any traction in the press on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. They testified
Starting point is 00:45:25 yesterday that $7.5 million just from Burisma alone went to Hunter Biden and his family members and his shell corporations. Nobody seems to care about any of this. And yet Donald Trump is, is possibly going to jail? Is that even true? possibly being indicted again and going to jail. Meanwhile, over election fraud. No, Biden charging election fraud. That gets some attention. And they have sent 70 and 80-year-olds on their way to prison
Starting point is 00:46:05 for something that I think the Democrats were saying they were going to do if Trump did win the election. I don't understand today's judicial system. them at all. It just seems to be what side are you on? Okay, bad or good. But Alan Dershowitz will be here to tell us what he thinks is going on and how things should work out. He's the author of Get Trump, Alan Dershowitz, in 60 seconds. I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a bold statement. It shouldn't cost you an arm and a leg every time you want to throw some stakes on the grill, but that is what's happening and it's going to get more and more expensive. And when you
Starting point is 00:46:49 you do have to pay for a good steak, it should be a good steak. It should be a steak that's coming right here in the United States of America. But our farmers and ranchers, they're working hard for your business. They're the backbone of the American economy today, but they are being thwarted every single way. When you go into the market and you see a little product of the USA flag on grass-fed beef, I can guarantee you that there is a 15% chance that that that means that beef came from the United States. 85% of it is from a foreign country. Don't ask me.
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Starting point is 00:48:16 Well, before we get to get Trump, I want to just say one word of commendation about the President of Israel, Isaac Herzog, who made one of the most brilliant speeches in front of a joint session of Congress yesterday with bigoted racist anti-Semites like Bernie Sanders, a Jewish anti-Semite walking out of his speech, AOC walking out of his speech, five or six Democrats who would come to hear Castro, who would come to hear Pol Pot. who would come to hear, you know, any, any dictator on the left refused to listen to the great president of Israel. I commended him as soon as this meeting is over. He wrote me a lovely note back. So I just want your audience to know that not all, not all members of Congress are decent people, these folks that wouldn't listen to our closest ally and who don't believe in the right of the nation state of Israel to exist as a Jewish state, are a shame and a scandal to America. And Herzog who went to high school in America
Starting point is 00:49:21 and whose father was the president of Israel, his grandfather was the chief rabbi of Israel. He's really just a great person. I hope people watch his speech. You can get it on YouTube. And now to Donald Trump. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before you go there, Alan, before we go there,
Starting point is 00:49:37 I would like to have you back on another time because I'm so packed up today. But I'd like to have you on another time to explain what the heck is happening. with the Supreme Court over there. I don't think most people even understand and they don't know, they don't know what the good guy and bad guy is. Well, there are no good guys and bad guys. There's just a dispute that's going on that's reasonable, very similar to the dispute in the United States, when Democrats want to pack the court.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I'm a real expert on that, and I've been advising the President of Israel, Prime Minister of Israel and others on this issue. So I would be thrilled to come back and explain to the American public exactly what's state. Okay. Good. Okay. So let's talk about get Trump and what is happening. Is there a chance he goes to jail on this? Yeah, sure. There's a chance he gets sentenced to prison. It would be for a lot. It would be in a long time. I mean, the worst case scenario for Trump is he gets tried just before the election. If he's tried in the District of Columbia, the reason he was so anxious to get him in the District of Columbia, he has a jury pool that voted against him 91% and not. many judges who have already expressed views very strong against Trump. So if he gets to be prosecuted in the District of Columbia, even if he's totally innocent, juries in the District of Columbia will indict a ham sandwich, will convict the ham sandwich if his name is Trump. So there is a chance he could
Starting point is 00:51:04 get convicted, although the case against him, I haven't seen the indictment, but based on press reports seems extremely stressed and stretched and weak, as does the case in New York. The Florida case is the only one that has some legs, but that would, you know, be a minor. It would be, you know, a paper case. Well, he mishandled some documents. So I don't think he's going to prison on Florida or New York, but he could be sentenced to prison in Washington, D.C., and then the question is, does he win the election? If he wins the election, he can't, I think the law would be clear. He has to serve his term as president, and then you can have all kinds of debates about whether he should go to, go to, prison or not. But if he loses the election and loses the trial, it's certainly possible.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He could end up in prison for a couple of years. That's within the realm of possibility. That's insanity. You cannot get the right lawyers to defend them. Why? Because there's a fascist organization called 65 Project, a group of radical left lawyers who have pledged to go after the bar licenses of any lawyer who defends Trump. They're going after me. I defended Trump, and I defended the correct approach to election machines and vote counting,
Starting point is 00:52:25 and they filed a bar complaint against me. And when you file a bar complaint against me, a law professor of 50 years or never did anything wrong, the message it sends to other lawyers is, don't go near Donald Trump. Don't defend him. And I got a call yesterday from a lawyer who's trying to put together a team for Donald Trump to defend him in D.C. Nobody, no good lawyer, really great lawyers, prepared to take the risk of getting
Starting point is 00:52:50 disbarred. This is a fascist of McCarthyism and the lack of due process and adequate representation. So how do we stop that, Alan? Because I know that I've had a great set of attorneys that I'd worked for for years that dropped me as a client because I was too controversial. And I'm like, You're my freedom of speech lawyers. What are you talking about? And how do you get a great lawyer? What do we do to, is there any legal way to stop these people? It's expensive.
Starting point is 00:53:30 You know, they have a tremendous amount of money behind them, whether it's George Soros' money. I don't know. But they have unlimited resources. And people who are fighting for the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution, the right to counsel, the First Amendment free speech aren't funding it. We should be organizing an organization, bipartisan, nonpartisan, an organization of people who love the Constitution to go after the 65 project and go after these lawyers who are trying to prevent Donald Trump and others from getting lawyers. Look, I won't be cowed. I'm too old for that. I'm going to be 85 in a month. I'm not going to be cowed by a bunch of radical left-wing lawyers. but, you know, a 45-year-old lawyer with a family to support is not going to take on Donald Trump's case if he knows he might lose his bar license.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So we have to fight back. And you can start organizing that campaign to fight back. We need people who love the Constitution, whether they're right, left or center, to fight back against this McCarthyite unconstitutional attack on lawyers who want to defend controversial defenders. Look, I didn't vote for Donald Trump. I defended him because his impeachment was unconstitutional. And I think today some of the charges against him are unconstitutional. I don't care whether he's a Democrat or Republican. I only care about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Starting point is 00:54:52 So, Alan, you tell me, you find a group or you put a group together, and I'll help finance. I mean, I think a lot of people in the audience will do the same thing. And you're right, it shouldn't be partisan, but it might end up being because it seems there's too many people that are too afraid, even of their own side, to actually get involved. And it's shameful. Just shameful. There's no doubt about that. What people on Martha's Vineyard, for example, did to my wife and my family, when I defended Trump,
Starting point is 00:55:23 these are people who I've helped the years. I've been living on the vineyards for 53 years. And once I defended Trump, I was denied the right to speak in the library. I was denied the right to speak in the community center, in the home. book fair. My wife was attacked. The restaurant we go to was told, if you dare to serve, the Dershowitz is, we'll never come there again. I mean, it's pure McCarthyism. McCarthyism. There's a new movie out called Oppenheimer. I haven't seen it, but I read the book. It's about what happened in the 1960s and 50s when I was a college student. We don't want to
Starting point is 00:55:59 ever see a recurrence of that. We want to see the Constitution alive and well and thriving, whether you're right, left or center. So can you talk to us a little bit about what's happening with the Hunter Biden case yesterday? Yeah. This is phenomenal that we have two really credible, one a Democrat, whistleblowers very high up in the IRS, talking about how they were obstructed on this and that even the Secret Service alerted Hunter Biden before and made sure that he wasn't available. And then on top of that, that the transition team was briefed by the DOJ.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So it's a terrible attack on our legal system. Look, Hunter Biden was lucky. He got a very, very good lawyer. Abby Lowell is a great lawyer. And he defended him and got him a good deal. I don't know if the judge is going to allow the deal to go through in light of all this. There has to be a special counsel appointed. Why?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Because we now know that the U.S. in Delaware, who was essentially appointed by Democrats, although he nominally was appointed by Trump, the recommendation came from the two Democratic senators. That is not what it matters. What matters is he was told he had complete jurisdiction to follow the money and follow the crimes to the District of Columbia and to California. And when he tried to do it, according to reports, he was stymie. So we have to have a special prosecutor who has universal jurisdiction, can follow the to Ukraine, can follow the money to China. No restrictions on its jurisdiction and see what the truth is. Remember, a whistleblower, I'm so proud of whistleblowers that come forward and there are
Starting point is 00:57:45 to be more, but being a whistleblower doesn't guarantee that you have complete credibility. So we have to check everything that was said yesterday. But if it turns out to be true, there's more than probable cause to appoint a special prosecutor to look in depth into this case rather than the current situation. Can we trust a special counsel at this at this time? I mean, how many have we had? And I mean, they just go on and on and on and then. Well, some have done good jobs. You know, the Whitewater Council against Clinton and then the and then the star. They were very aggressive and they pursued it to impeachment, which failed, but impeachment. The right person, it's all about the right person, Archwell Cox was the right person. I could give you a list of
Starting point is 00:58:32 10 people, former judges, people who are Republicans. Give you two examples of the top of my head. Mike Mukasey, the former Attorney General of the United States under Bush, he would be a perfect special counsel. Louis Free, the former head of the FBI, again, a Republican, but a moderate, a former judge, both of them, former judges. They would be extraordinary. These people have great reputations, and they'll never allow their reputations to be
Starting point is 00:58:59 sullied, and they will never take orders from Garland. they would never take orders from Bush. They would never take orders from anybody. They would do their job, and they could do it well. And they're at the end of their careers. They don't have to worry about whether or not they're going to get another job later. We could see real justice done if people like that were appointed to get to the bottom of this. I don't know whether it's true or not.
Starting point is 00:59:21 But if it's true, it is devastating. And who appoints that special counsel? What are we waiting for? Well, if the appointment comes from, Garland, but there has to come with a lot of political pressure from the House of Representatives, from other people, from the public. And he should make an appointment, and he should appoint somebody who is beyond reproach, somebody who, everybody, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, CNN and Fox and MS,
Starting point is 00:59:54 NBC, and Newsmax all agree, this is the guy, this is the woman, this is. the person who can get to the bottom of this. Without that, America's faith in the legal system is diminishing. So I have to tell you, I'm listening to this podcast, I'm driving in my car, and I'm thinking, well, okay, well, that's not going to happen. I mean, I think people, they say they don't care anymore. It's not that they don't care. It's that they don't think anything's going to happen. If we are reliant on a guy who, quite honestly, Merrick Garland, who I think should, it should at least be considered that he faces an impeachment. If you expect him to appoint somebody that the world is going to trust, we're living in Fantasyland. Well, that may be the case. What's the alternative? Look, Merrick Garland could have been on the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:00:51 it ends up he may not be the right man for the job he has now but but he's a man he can't be impeached by the way because he hasn't committed any crimes to be impeached it has to be treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors just having a maladministration or malpractice the framers of the Constitution rejected that so I don't agree but lying lying to Congress well that would be an impeachable offense, obviously, if it were perjury. My understanding is that the allegations that he lied were mostly in media discussions, but you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he actually knowingly lied, not that he made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:01:38 But put that aside, if the public pressure is enough, look, there's another alternative, and that is voting for third-party candidates. We're now seeing this new group emerging called a no one. labels with Joe Lieberman and Manchin and others who are thinking about saying to the American public, look, you don't have to choose between Biden and Trump. Here's the third alternative of moderate, middle, centrist people who can give you a third alternative. Having that a strong option puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the Attorney General, on the president to do the right thing. Maybe it won't succeed, but your guy driving in the car has a point.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It's unlikely. Any of these things are unlikely to happen. Alan Dershowitz, the author of Get Trump and the host of the podcast, The Dershow. Thank you, Alan. We'll talk again. My pleasure. Thank you. Second Amendment exists for a very good reason.
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Starting point is 01:04:31 is still being checked the audio book, I guess, by Amazon because, you know, we're not a trusted source that have sold millions of books and audiobooks through Amazon. You know, anything could happen. All of a sudden, this one could be a little spotty or sketchy, you know, technologically speaking. So they've only had it for a few weeks. What do you expect them to do? Really? the audiobook will be coming out very soon on Amazon or I'm going to find another way to release the audiobook. And don't think I haven't contacted my CEO and asked him to start working on that right now. The audiobook is available. By the way, New York Times, we were legitimately number two behind a K-pop book, something, sold a bazillion books to kids, I guess.
Starting point is 01:05:23 so we were number two. But the New York Times put us at number 12 this time. So congratulations on that. I wear it as a badge of honor, really. The name of the book is Dark Future. You can grab a hardbound or the Kindle is available today. Who knows? Maybe the audiobook will come out soon sometime.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Thank you, Amazon. It's available now. Dark Future. The Glenn Back Program. American financing NMLS-182334 www.mLS Consumer Access.org. American financing wants you to know that even though the Fed paused their continuing rate hikes back in June,
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Starting point is 01:07:46 I listen to my audiobook and say, Glenn, where is your audiobook? I don't know. You would have to ask Amazon that question. We couldn't get our audiobook up for some reason. That's strange, isn't it? Well, you know, I would tell you, but it's not strange because they actually wouldn't release the people who did the early reviews for my book either. Really? Yes. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah, it's a big head scratcher there. Yeah, I know that we have violated all kinds of rules by even having the Great Reset on the cover of the book. That's a verbatine phrase that you're just not supposed to say, but it's the truth, and we'll take on the World Economic Forum, but they're not making it easy. If you haven't had the chance to get the book Dark Future, hurry, you can do that at, you can find it at glensnewbook.com. Also, Carol Roth just put her new book out. And it's, you'll own nothing. And I wanted to have her on today.
Starting point is 01:08:56 By the way, it's a great companion book. These two go together really, really well. I wanted to talk to you and pick it up where we were the other day, and that is renting the American dream and talking about how the American dream is not a house, but that's how we describe it. And we describe it at such is because that is the one thing that grows wealth. You know, you always hear my mom and dad bought this house for, you know, 1965 for $5,000. And now it's worth a million.
Starting point is 01:09:29 It is, it is something that allows you to grow wealth. And if you can't grow your wealth in something like that, then you lose the American dream, which is to be able to chart your own course, especially if you are renting and you're not renting from a neighbor. You're renting from a corporate entity. This is just disgusting what is happening. Can you explain a little bit more? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 So this is really something that the corporations coming in. and competing with individuals for single-family homes, which, as you mentioned, is the largest driver of wealth on household balance sheets across the U.S. This is something that didn't happen before 2010. So after all of the ridiculous policies that came out of the Great Recession Financial Crisis that bailed out Wall Street and, you know, cost almost 6 million Americans or homes via foreclosure or short sale, they did not get the bailout. There was all of this supply in the markets of really cheap homes. At the same time, the Fed decided they were going to give a gift to Wall Street, and that was going to be abundant cheap capital through their policy of artificially suppressing interest rates and printing a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And it was to the point that what we call it was almost free money, that they had had negative real interest rates, that basically the interest rates that they had on the loan were actually lower than inflation was at that point in time. So when Wall Street had access to all of this money, it started to invest in various assets and inflate those. For some reason, that never counts as real inflation because it benefits the wealthy and the well-connected when those asset prices go up. And then they ran out of places on a sort of a risk-reward basis that they felt they could put the capital. So in 2010, you started getting corporations, competing. competing with individuals to buy homes.
Starting point is 01:11:36 It did not meaningfully exist prior to that. To the point that we now have more than one in every five homes as at the end of last year that was purchased by a corporation. And these corporations are not looking to make them better and get them back to you so you can have that wealth creation opportunity. They are looking to rent you the American dream. They want to take that wealth that you would have created for your family, for your legacy, and they want to transfer that to Wall Street.
Starting point is 01:12:07 And so one of the things I did in the book, Glenn, I like to let everybody speak for themselves. So I went to their financial statements and their financial filings, the 10-Ks, the annual report, and I just reprinted what they said. And they said they are specifically targeting the middle class, because those are the ones who have the jobs who can go out and earn money and basically give that wealth over to Wall Street, and that this is a golden opportunity for this new asset class.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And so really the implications of you owning nothing in terms of not being able to own a house, which, by the way, is also influenced not just by this policy, but by additional government regulations at the federal, state, and local level, the disruption of labor in the labor market means that you're not able to generate this wealth. it also has social credit implications. As we talk about on this program, I talk about in you own nothing, you reference in Dark Future, think about if you don't own your home and now you have to rent that from one of these corporations, which by the way happens to be backed by all of the big financial
Starting point is 01:13:21 companies that are pushing things like ESG and whatnot, you know, what happens if you say something that they don't like on social media? Do you then lose access to your home, just like you've lost access, perhaps, to the Twitter platform or to, you know, some other social media platform or to, you know, one of these online payment systems, it really puts much more at risk for your future. And that's happening already. I mean, you know, try to get my kids into certain schools. Just because you're white, try to get your kid in a certain school. We're already doing this. We're just not doing it system systemically throughout it organized throughout all of society.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But that is coming. There are also, the IRS is also going after your inheritance. And this is really so nefarious. I have spent my life making money and the money that I want to keep it to pass on to my kids, I'm doing it through my ranch. and we have been building and taking care of this property and really, I mean, we're really, really, really look at this land as sacred. And my kids, I have to put enough money away, so my kids will be able to pay the taxes on the land, et cetera, et cetera, because you don't honestly
Starting point is 01:14:47 ever own anything. They can take it from you at any time. But when I die, if I haven't, you know, done the, you know, the legal loopholes with all the attorneys and only the rich can really do things like this. My kids will lose the where they will have to sell the ranch for the taxes. And that's obscene. And what happens is when they take it for the taxes, the government takes all of the money for the taxes. And then they sell the farm to probably some corporate entity to get it out of the hands again of, you know, the average person. This is stripping the American dream and just putting it into the water like chum. It's true, and there's another thing that I talk about.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I have a chapter on the upcoming wealth heist that relates to this. So you talk about, you know, your farm is being something that you want to, your ranch is something you want to be passing down. there is an estimated $84.4 trillion in wealth that is set to turn over via inheritances in the next 23 years. It's a staggering amount of money, and that's not from billionaires. That is mostly from middle class Americans that have worked hard and put away something. And so what are we hearing out there?
Starting point is 01:16:13 We're hearing things like, oh, Janet Yellen, she wants to go after unrealized capital gains, which are these weasel words that basically say, we're going to tell you what your stuff is worth on paper. You haven't realized the income from it, but we're going to tax you on that. So think about the implications. Your parents bought a house in 1970, and then all of a sudden, one day they wake up
Starting point is 01:16:37 and someone looks on Zillow and decides that it's worth $2 million, and now your parents owe taxes on $1.9 million. Where are they getting? That's crazy. They're not. Of course they're not going to do that. So what are they trying to do here? They're trying to trick people and say, no, we just want this for the billionaires and the ultra-wealth because it's not fair.
Starting point is 01:16:59 But that's not the bulk of that $84.4 trillion that sets a pass down. So they're trying to get wealth taxes and they're trying to get inheritance taxes increased with the carrot that they're going after the ultra-wealthy so that you seed the principle. They want you to say there are no property rights and this is okay to do. And the second you do that, that means that it's not just for the billionaires, it's for you. And there's so much wealth that, by the way, we've got $32 trillion plus and growing in national debt. We also have more than $129 trillion in unfunded liabilities and promises that, of course, they're not going to walk back. So wouldn't that $84.4 trillion of your wealth go a long? way to help them maintain their power and control. So one of the things I did in the book is I got an estate
Starting point is 01:17:53 planning attorney. And Chapter 11, we have all of these ways that you can fight back. And one of the things he says is you have to go to an estate planner and you have to do like you did, Glenn, and get a trust put in place. It sounds like it's just for the wealthy, but you can do it even if you're the average American right on Main Street. We can't guarantee that there will be a grand and fathering, but the reality is we know that the wealthiest people are going to be protected. So you need to start doing the things that they're doing to make sure that when they come in and they change the rules, you're protected. Yes, exactly right.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And it's, you know, it's not cheap to put a trust together, but it is also not, it's not something to adjust for the wealthy. And I'm telling you, they're going to come for all that you have every way they have. And you're exactly right. You've got to start doing what the wealthy are doing. And thank you for doing all the work. I want to have you back maybe next week and talk about something else you talk about in the book, which is the water rights that are being bought up by the elites,
Starting point is 01:19:03 including places like Harvard, buying up all kinds of water rights. We'll talk about that next week. The name of the book is You Will Own Nothing. It is a great book by Carol Roth. she's a former investment banker that is you know she sobered up and she started caring about you know main street and and she wrote the book you will own nothing which is a great companion book to dark future carol roth thank you so much thanks for joining the counter revolution movement glenn we got to get everyone in it you got it far too much negativity out there right now so let me give you something positive to think
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Starting point is 01:21:16 We have people from all over the country. It's kind of like a little taos that's happening here. And every year I host these artists to come out. And they paint and share stories and learn from each other and learn to tell stories. It's more of a symposium than a workshop, really. These guys are just some of the best. And they learn how to tell stories. And today I'm supposed to speak to them.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And I'm like, I don't really have anything to say to these guys. I mean, it's Josh Clare and Jeremy Lipking and Adrian Stein and just, some unbelievable artists but it is an honor to have them here and host them here at the standing rock ranch uh even though it's yesterday i i put an instagram out and i don't know what kind of flood waters i i opened but uh i was so frustrated my wife and i were on our way uh back to the ranch and we've been working on this ranch for i don't know how long and living in the dust and uh our landscaper just flaked. I don't even understand this.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I don't understand how people are just like, yeah, I don't need the work. Or yeah, I work, but I don't want to work too hard. It is honestly like a roulette. You just spin the wheel and see which contractor shows up, which one's going to do the work, which one's not. And if somebody, God forbid, forget something, there'd be eight people on the crew. Oh, you know what? I forgot my hammer. I got to go and get it.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And then all the other people just seem to like, well, we can't work without Bill. I mean, we'll just stand here and wait for Bill to come back. It is crazy. We really are at that point where you get like, all you need to do is show up and you're better than 94% of your competition. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I mean, I have all this landscaping to do. And I live out in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:23:20 So there's like, there's, I don't know. There's one person that we found that can do it. And they're like, my, yeah. I'm not going to answer my. phone for like two months. Oh, okay. And the guy who's in charge of the whole build, he said, well, it looks like we're going to have to wait until next summer to landscape. And I'm like, no, no, I'll dig it out with my hands if I have to. But I don't know what to do. I mean, you're pretty skilled. I mean, you just paint some flowers. And what do you need to done?
Starting point is 01:23:50 You know, just, I'm down to that. If it wouldn't turn to dust, I would. I am so willing. Did I tell you my wife, this is a few months ago, we had these flower pots outside, and I just came back on these beautiful flowers in there. I'm like, wow, those are great. I mean, how much do we have to pay for that? What do that cost? It's like, oh, no, they're just from Amazon. They're just plastic.
Starting point is 01:24:11 They just look like really good flowers. Like, we are getting to the point where, screw these living things. Give me the plastic. You never have to do anything. They just live forever, sort of, in a way. You are giving me some ideas. and you're also giving you're also giving Hunter Biden some ideas
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Starting point is 01:27:24 I mean, come on, this is just too good to be true. Biden, Joe Biden was the first senator to endorse Jimmy Carter's presidential run. And Carter described Biden as his most effective supporter. Well, at least he was effective at one point in his life. We have the author of a new book that is out, how Joe Biden is worse than Jimmy Carter ever was. The Biden Malays. You want to listen to this with Kimberly Strassel.
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Starting point is 01:29:26 Kimberly. Glenn, it is great to be here. It's great to have you on. I'm so great to talk to you. Thank you. You wrote the book on the Biden-Malayes, and you have a happy ending to it, but your contention is Joe Biden is worse than Jimmy Carter ever was.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I think at this point that's pretty obvious to even maybe Democrats. Do you agree with that? Well, I don't, I mean, they won't admit it obviously. No, yeah. It should be obviously. It should be obvious to everyone, especially looking at his dismal poll numbers and the state of the economy. And by the way, there were Democrats that warned him not to take the steps he took. So they understood what would come from it, the inflation, the high gas prices, and he did it anyway.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Is anybody do, would you say that's different this time around? It seems like every, all the Democrats are on board with everything he's doing. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, the reason this has all happened is because Joe Biden is not a leader. And he's not willing to stand up to the crazies in his party. If you look back over his long history, he's always just been a vessel. wherever the party power was at the moment, that's what he reflected. And if he'd have stood up, if he'd have actually taken the advice of sane economists, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:30:49 we wouldn't be in the situation we are right now. But he was never going to push back. That's another big difference between him and Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter had a very rollicking, sprawling party, and a lot of them didn't like him because he actually got in fights with them. Right. So, Carter, I never, I mean, I never had the feeling that he was intentionally trying to dismantle America. I just thought he was a mess.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Can you compare their philosophies? I mean, Biden is surrounded by all kinds of anti-American or anti-capitalist kind of people. Was it the same with Carter? You just put your finger on the word that matters here and what really separates these two presidents, Glenn, and that is intent. You know, if you go back and you look at Jimmy Carter, first of all, he was dealt a far harder hand than Biden was.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I mean, we were already in the middle of global inflation. There had already been an oil shock. We were in the middle of a very aggressive Cold War. And to the extent that he desperately mismanaged all of this, He was at least trying to make things better, right? He was trying to actually help unemployment. That was the reason he took a lot of the steps he did. It didn't work.
Starting point is 01:32:12 He had the wrong advice. He was still enthralled to Keynesian economics, but he had the best interests of the country at heart. You know, Joe Biden took what should have been an amazing economy, just turning the corner from COVID, an amazing energy sector, which we had just become a net exporter of oil. and in a fervor to turn us into European-style socialism, use COVID as an excuse to spend $6 trillion to attack fossil fuels in a climate agenda and manage to spiral up inflation to massively increase the size of government and to make it impossible for people to fill their cars up with gas or to pay their heating bills.
Starting point is 01:32:56 And so it's intent. His goal is to transform the country. We all know that the methods that he's chosen lead to rack and ruin, but he doesn't care. So let me switch to what you talk about towards the end of your book, and that is Reagan. Reagan comes around, and he's not liked by the Republicans. He's an outsider, but he is cheerful, and he reminds people who we really are. Do you see that candidate out there? not yet and that makes me very sad because i truly believe that we could potentially have another
Starting point is 01:33:38 moment like the end of the carter administration in which a country has seen up close and personal again what it's like to have failing economic policies uh and one consequence of that in carter's years was it was this incredible opening and ronald regan with his ideas which were very different as you know from rockefeller republicans uh and with a very cheery message, was able to not just change an election, but change electoral politics in this country for a generation. You know, the whole Reagan Democrat movement, which, by the way, those people are now the Republican base. But I look out of the fields now, I think what we have is a lot of people who are all trying to show they've got fight, right, to show that they can throw a punch just as much as Donald Trump can. But we're not hearing as much about their vision.
Starting point is 01:34:29 and we certainly aren't seeing enough people smile, for God's sake. Like, just smile and have an optimistic vision for the future. Right. And everyone's just instead. Yeah. Isn't it really hard to have an optimistic future when you know how deep? Unlike Carter, you know, the Republican or the Democratic Party back then didn't seem to hate and be against the country. you have almost every institution corrupted and falling further and further away from defending our Constitution and our way of life.
Starting point is 01:35:08 I mean, it's kind of hard to have an optimistic attitude because it's the biggest fight perhaps of our entire country's history, don't you think? Oh, I agree with you. It's very difficult. I think it was also very hard back in the time that Reagan was running. Not necessarily, I agree with you, the Democratic Party was a different beast. But the depths of the kind of the tearing apart, the country was very divided back then. It had been through a lot of traumas, Vietnam, Watergate. I mean, people were so demoralized. So it was very hard to do it then, too.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I think what has to be done is someone's got to remind this doesn't mean you could be optimistic. and still call out those failings, right? Because what you've got to do is you have to remind people, again, in a way that shows leadership, just how off the rails that party has gone and show that you can actually accomplish stuff and have a vision and have an optimistic without resorting to their tactics.
Starting point is 01:36:14 And I think a lot of people would gravitate to that. So I agree with you 100%. Your book is kind of more of, a guide than anything else to show us what we what we really need to do and it is it's the greatest opportunity right now to reset America and put her principles you know it's I I would say have we tried unplugging it and plugging it back in we need to restore its original principles its factory settings but there doesn't seem to be uh except for the the people. It doesn't seem to be anybody really willing as far as parties go. The Democrats are
Starting point is 01:36:58 way off the rails. The Republicans are kind of like they were under Reagan, where I'm not sure that they're all that helpful to somebody who believes in the Constitution. I agree with you. And especially here's the positive thing, Glenn, I truly believe that while the parties and the party leadership are at each other's throat, I think most of the, Americans fundamentally agree with those constitutional principles that you just outlined, or at least are open to hearing about how we need a return to that. One of the problems I see in the Republican field at the moment is that there's very much a kind of you versus us mentality, even among the candidates, basically saying, you know, if you think this, then you are morally reprehensible.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Correct. And taking it to extreme levels, not seeming to understand that a lot of Americans do have very nuanced views on abortion or other culturally. That's why they're hot buttons. One of the great things about Reagan is he didn't do a you versus us thing. He spoke to everyone as Americans and said he'd lead everyone as Americans. And that's what convinced people to switch parties and come in. well he did take a you versus us in one way it was us against the government he said government was the problem i'm going to get them out of your your hair uh and that's the same kind of message that would win today absolutely you know i know that the party is having a you know long involved debate about how it needs to transform itself but you know sometimes like if it like if you got a wheel and it turns like and it's not broken like that there's
Starting point is 01:38:46 a formula. Right. People don't like government. And you just hit on something. We need to have a leader that figures out the things that unite us. And guess what? Most people don't like government. I mean, even people who, you know, are sat by while it got bigger, their interaction with
Starting point is 01:39:03 it is not great. You know, everyone understands that it's all one big version of the DMV. So some themes like that, those things that unite us, I think the way. to go. I'm still waiting to see it, though. We're talking to Kimberly Strassel. She is the author of The Biden Malays. It just came out this week. She's also a Wall Street
Starting point is 01:39:28 Journal columnist and an editorial board member and a good friend of the program. We're going to take a quick break. I don't want to come back and if you're willing to, I'd like to talk to you about the individual candidates and what you see how's that shaping up and strengths and weaknesses
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Starting point is 01:41:24 and the need for a new Reagan. So first of all, I guess, tell me what you think we should be looking for in these candidates. And then let's go through some of the candidates. Sure. And by the way, I wish I'd had you do this subtitle on my book, Glenn, because it's much better than the one that's actually there. I'm sorry. What is the actual subtitle? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:41:46 No, no, no. No, no. Yours is better. That's what I'm saying. Let's not even say the other one. It's a mouthful. Okay. Because let's go.
Starting point is 01:41:54 All right. All right. So let's go. Who do you want to go first? What are we looking for? Well, I think the, yeah, tell us what we're looking for and then let's go through the candidates. Well, I think what I'm looking for, what I think the nation would benefit for is some of
Starting point is 01:42:11 that old-fashioned Reagan philosophy, which is limited government, right, fiscal responsibility, and, you know, strong national defense on the grounds. I know there's a debate about this in the GOP at the moment, but my view is that when America's standing strong, there's less likelihood of conflict, and that actually allows us to dedicate more of our time and resources to our own problems here at home. I think that was very clear with Donald Trump. I mean, you know, I don't think Putin would have gone into Ukraine with Donald Trump there. If you have somebody who is strong, the military is strong. And honestly, I've always said, somebody with a twitchy eye, where you're you? You're like, you know, I think he just might do that. As long as the enemy of the United States is feeling that way, we're pretty safe. We're pretty safe. I couldn't agree with you more.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Yep. Okay. So when you look at the candidates, I mean, there's a lot to go, but Donald Trump is the one that it's really at his point, his to lose, I think. what are your thoughts on Donald Trump? So I agree with you that it's his to lose. Although, you know, it's really interesting. I live in kind of a town that's really what was Trump country. It's a very conservative area.
Starting point is 01:43:38 It's kind of a place where you would see like the doubled Trump flags on the back of the pickup Trump waiting, you know? Right. I've been really surprised by how many people who voted for him twice. have said that they would like to get a look at other people and that they're not sure this time. And I think you see that reflected a little bit in the polls, too, in that, you know, he's got a solid number, most like 35, 40 percent. That's a little bit more than he had back in the 2016 primaries. I think what's going for him, though, is this crowded field, just as it was back in 2016. And, you know, there's clearly more voters who haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:44:19 decided on him yet, but they're all splitting the field. You know, my one concern with Trump in terms of what we've been talking about is I don't think, A, that he is a natural communicator of a philosophy. It's not his deal. He likes the politics, right? Much more than he likes the policy idea of this. And he's certainly not your sunny guy, you know? Right.
Starting point is 01:44:44 It's funny because in some... You can come up for a lot of reasons, but yeah, he's not... Yeah. And I think he used to be at times a sunny guy before he got into politics. But yeah, not necessarily now and probably good reason. Ron DeSantis. So Ron DeSantis, in my mind, he's got the ability to do all this, but I think his problem, and we're seeing it from the reset.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Of course, his campaign says it's not a reset, which confirms that it is a reset. But he, you know, I think what's happening there, and I've kind of heard this, he felt a lot more comfortable in Florida, knew what he was doing, felt comfortable making his own decisions. This campaign looks to have been very poll driven so far. And I keep wanting to say, like, let Ron DeSantis be Ron DeSantis. Because if you look at that amazing reelection he won in Florida, I mean, sure, there were probably a number of baseball. voters who liked what he did with Disney and liked what he did with the schools and transgender stuff. But a lot of people just loved that he was competent when they had that storm, that the gas got delivered, that their taxes got lowered, yet that government got smaller, that you just had a leader who knew how to get stuff done.
Starting point is 01:46:08 And I really wish we heard more of that from him. The other one I'd be interested in hearing about is Vivek Ramoswamy. I think he is so fascinating. I think he's got a few, like, really out there ideas. But on the upside, it's because he has ideas. I mean, that guy is so sharp. He is a font of policies. When he's not sure what he's talking about, he goes and gets educated on it. He's obviously got an enormous amount of energy. And I think that he's actually getting a real look. I mean, people kind of just immediately wrote him off when he's, he's got an enormous amount of energy. He's obviously got an enormous amount of energy. And I think that he's actually getting a real look. I mean, people kind of just immediately wrote him off when he's, got into this. But that guy is out there and he is working like a dog and I think he's making some gains. I think so too. I think he could be a vice presidential nominee if not a presidential nominee in the end. If he keeps going the way he's going, he is a very different and sunny kind of guy. He has the Reagan son to him. Which is really important. Yeah, that's the other thing is he does have a vision. And, you know, if you listen to him, he talks a lot about what it means
Starting point is 01:47:23 to be American and how we need to be proud to be American. He talks a lot about those values, you mentioned, Glenn. And that's a little bit of what Reagan did. Obviously, he's a very different person, but he's closer to that than I think a lot of the other candidates. I agree. Kimberly, great to talk to you. Thank you so much. The new book is The Biden-Malays. It came out just a couple of days ago, The Biden Malays by Kimberly Strassel. You can pick it up wherever you find your books. More in a minute.
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Starting point is 01:49:37 And you say outside of my broadcast studio are some of today's best artists. Now, which one of them is Hunter Biden? I know he's really the top guy. He's not here. No? He's not here. No, but look at the name. I don't know if you know anything.
Starting point is 01:49:49 I don't know anything. No, I don't know anything. These are honest with you. I don't know anything about art. But I've seen some of these people's work and it's incredible. I mean, it's incredible. And I bring them up to the ranch once a year. and it's for the inspired arts league which i don't run or you know i'm just a member of
Starting point is 01:50:10 uh and we donate the ranch and and uh put on the food and everything else and these guys come up and they just paint and i'm allowed to sit and listen and watch and oh my gosh it is they are amazing we two days ago um we were given a challenge uh there's how many of us 15 12 And we were given a nine foot panel and said, the only instruction was something that you, that scared you that you got through. You have two hours to paint it. All of you paint one painting together. Go. And we're all like, what?
Starting point is 01:50:55 What? Wait a minute. Wait, wait a minute. And all of us thought it would be an absolute disaster. I should tweet out what happened. Just then, this giant thunderstorm came rolling through the valley and it got very, very dark. And everybody just looked up at the sky and went, okay, that's it. And within two hours, we painted a painting that is just unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:51:19 And there were like 10, 10 of us at least working on it at the same time. And we'd all step back and go, okay, that needs to be. Who wants to do that? And boom, it was really fun, really fun. That's really fun. And last night we had a conversation. What does that mean? Well, it's strange.
Starting point is 01:51:38 You're, you know, I mean, I would imagine that your politics are not necessarily aligned with every artist. We don't talk politics at all. Smart. Nobody talks politics. There were a couple of artists last year. They were like, I don't know. I'm going to Glenn Beck. I mean, I feel sorry for the guy from India.
Starting point is 01:51:57 He was like, I look him up on. I mean, really? I mean, he's Satan. I don't have to sacrifice a chicken, do I? Not like, no, but we are slaughtering cows. Anyway, we don't talk politics at all. And that's a good thing, I think. Really good thing.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Have you talked at all with them, you know, being really, you know, famous accomplished artist about what they think is going on with AI? Yeah, none of them like it. I would assume not. I think they are still of the mindset that handcrafted things will be worth more than AI things. And I think in the long run, that's true. But it's like, for instance, I equate it to when quartz came out, I'm a watch collector. Quartz came out.
Starting point is 01:52:54 You could not buy a handmade, beautiful. watch that you would have to wind because everybody went to quartz. I mean, even the biggest watch houses went, you know, to quartz. And all of a sudden, the price of a handmade watch went through the floor. Smart people bought up all of those watches and just kept them in vaults. Now it's the same. You don't, if you're a watch collector, if you're somebody who really likes a timepiece for the handmade quality. You buy that. You don't buy quartz. If you're somebody that just wants time, you'll buy a quartz watch because that's all you need it for. But there is a place for
Starting point is 01:53:38 handmade everything. And I think it's going to become more valuable. People will want something real. Yeah. I mean, I think that's, it's definitely true, I think. You know, like my, my, my son is a, you know, he likes sports collectibles. And like, obviously, you could print a baseball card that looks the same as the one that was released in 1985 or 1955. A signature is a perfect example of this. Obviously, you could recreate a signature easily, but the real signature is what's worth it, right? And I assume that continues, though, with the AI stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Some of it looks so real. I don't even know anymore. I don't know. There's something to be said, though, when, I mean, I can think of so many things like this that, you know, it was fun for a while. let's take the
Starting point is 01:54:28 what do you call it the hero movies that are being made the Marvel what company is that Marvel Marvel was great because at first it was like wow I've never seen anything like that
Starting point is 01:54:39 now you're like hmm yeah because it's all that you know what I mean and nothing is is real where you look at Mission Impossible where it's AI assisted and you know that he was actually in the plane, the helicopter, doing that.
Starting point is 01:54:57 That adds something to it. I think the Tom Cruise movie is a great example of real life mixing it. And Marvel is just kind of, nah, because it's not real. Yeah, it's almost like you're buying the story. I find so much of this, a lot of the stuff that goes viral on the internet has the same sort of thing. Where, like, you know, like, dude perfect is like one of the biggest, you know, accounts on YouTube. and they do crazy trick shots is one of the things that they do. And they recently, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:29 basketball shot off the top of some Vegas tower. It was the highest basketball shot ever. And you see the thing go down. And like, they could easily do that in CGI, and it would be nothing, right, to see that. But the fact is the whole story of them taking multiple days and thousands of shots to try to make this and then finally making it is what you were interested in.
Starting point is 01:55:52 And I think, I guess that's where it goes. But like you also can see the other side of it. I know with, you know, Hollywood obviously is on strike now and they're doing this, the actors and the writers, a lot of that has to do with AI. And the possibilities where that's going is really fascinating. I don't know if you saw this from Justine Bateman. You remember her from Family Ties?
Starting point is 01:56:16 Oh, yeah, yeah. She's very bright. Yeah, she's also a computer science degree as well, apparently. But she tweeted this thread. This is a couple months ago, but I think it's fascinating. Where does AI going with film? Listen to this. One, AI written scripts.
Starting point is 01:56:32 You kind of figured that's already happening, I'm sure. And digitally scanned actors, image and or voice, both already exist. Some talent agencies are actively recruiting their clients to be scanned. You can choose the projects, but you'll only get 75 cents on the dollar. But, okay, and now you think you're not even doing any work, right? What's the big deal? It's all an AI. Then it says your digital image can be triple or quadruple booked.
Starting point is 01:56:56 So that bodes well if you happen to be a top 10% or. Number two, films customized for a viewer based on their viewing history, which has been collected for many years. Actors will have the option to have their image bought out or to be used in anything at all. Three, films ordered up by the viewer. For example, I want a film about a panda and a unicorn who saved the world in a rocket ship and just put Bill Murray in it. Imagine typing that into Netflix
Starting point is 01:57:26 and then you just get the movie. And if you happen to be a, what is it, Black Mirror Watcher and you watch the first one from this season, you know, it seems completely absurd, but I mean, that's the sort of stuff they're talking about it. Oh, it could be done. Oh, yeah. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:57:40 Somebody will hit on a hit. Somebody will have an idea, put it together, and it will become a hit. And it'll be like, you know, YouTube movies. This happened with, what was a Drake? I think it was one of those, you know, some musician. And he had, there was an AI song written that sounded like his voice. It wasn't him.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Wasn't his song. But it was becoming popular. They had to suppress it to make it not become a hit. But that's just all coming, right? That's all around the corner. And the problem is, is where is plagiarism? Where's the line? I mean, you can look at, for instance, we were talking.
Starting point is 01:58:20 I can't remember what the painting was. We were talking about some painting and this person had done another painting and it was very similar. Now, did he copy that or did he go and say, oh, I don't even remember seeing that before, maybe honestly not seeing it or seeing it a long, long, long, long time ago, maybe in his childhood and it just kind of pushed to the front. With AI, there is no childhood. There's no memory that you lose. that there's no subliminal anything. It's all there. And if it's read and consumed everything, everything is plagiarism.
Starting point is 01:58:59 All of it. All of it is plagiarism. Yeah. To some degree or another. There's that Sarah Silverman lawsuit. I don't know if you saw that from a couple of weeks ago where, you know, basically you can ask AI to summarize her book, right? And the AI will summarize her book and all the things that are in it, stories from inside
Starting point is 01:59:17 the book. And she's like, that's my book. You just took all the stuff from my book and just gave it away for free. Right? Like, Yes. I think she has an argument there, honestly. Um,
Starting point is 01:59:27 couple more. She does. A couple more from this, Glenn. Uh, other possibilities of AI in the future of what happens in film. Viewers getting digitally scanned themselves and paying extra to have themselves inserted into custom films. Easy.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Totally. Licensing deals made with studios so that viewers can order, uh, order up older films like Star Wars and put their face on Luke Skywalker's. body and their ex-wife's face on Darth Vader's body, etc. Six, training an AI program on older hit TV series and creating an additional season. Family Ties, which she was in, had 167 episodes. An AI program could easily be trained on this and create an eighth season because they only shot seven.
Starting point is 02:00:09 I mean, this is going to be a really weird world. And there's a window blend. It's coming fast. Yeah, coming really fast. And there's that window where right now, people like Bill Murray, right? They'll want those people in these movies. They'll have a chance to license themselves out.
Starting point is 02:00:25 But like over time, they're just going to create AI stars from scratch that will just replace all the, you don't need Bill Murray. People won't remember him. He'll be dead 30 years from now and they'll just be all AI people out there acting. Stu, why would you, I mean, it's the same thing that I say about AI for relationships. actors are a pain in the ass. They're a pain in the ass. All the stuff that you have to do, you know, I need this, I need that.
Starting point is 02:00:56 No, I don't know if I got worked, all of that stuff. Why would any mega studio say, no, let's have all that drama here on the set? Instead of saying, I can take them, license their image, and I don't have anything to do with them. Yeah, I'll do that. No, totally. And by the way, as you brought that up, I thought, man, talk show hosts can be difficult too. This would be. No offense. I will tell you this. We won't be able to do it. Ben Shapiro will be able to do it because you don't ever hear him go, oh, what was that name? That's true. Like me. So if I'm ever replaced by AI, you'll know because I'll sound like Ben Shapiro. Cut with a spoon style forks. Yes, thank you. Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro, but. may actually be AI right now.
Starting point is 02:01:48 And I still love it. I still love it. Well, you know, you mentioned the relationship thing, which of course is coming with all sorts of weirdness. But like, I was reading an article this morning about they're doing this with like Instagram influencers, right? Where I mean, what's an Instagram influencer? I mean, to be true. Like, we don't know who these people are.
Starting point is 02:02:08 They haven't accomplished anything of note that we know of. They come out and they become popular because they're hot and they're wearing bikinis in like, you know, foreign locations. Well, that's easy for AI. You don't even have to know if these people are. They're just creating them from scratch to look perfect to be wearing bathing suits in, you know, some incredible with some incredible backdrop. And then they're trying to sell you the bathing suits or whatever they're trying to hawk to you. And it's like, you're just going to create these people from scratch over time.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Those people will be the famous people, right? The fake people will be the famous people. I have to tell you. I think that's wrong. I mean, look at me. Here I am in an exotic location. Wearing a bathing suit right now. You're creating a horrible imagery for the radio listening audience.
Starting point is 02:02:55 I assure you if you're watching Blaze TV, he's fully clothed. Everybody's like, oh, dear God, AI, save us. Back in just a minute. First, let me tell you about Goldline. I want to make sure you know about the perils of our current financial situation. If you use history like I do as a tool to look back and learn from with, With that hope, we can prevent disaster from striking again. Either way, I want you to get prepared in case disaster does strike again.
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Starting point is 02:05:37 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you hear Dark Future is out digitally now. You can get it on your Kindle or wherever you get
Starting point is 02:05:46 your digital books. For some reason the audio books still not out. We want to thank Amazon for that. Glenn, scale of 1 to 10.
Starting point is 02:05:53 One being these whistle Whistleblowers changed nothing, and Joe and Hunter are going to go on with their lives as normal. 10 being this ends in them being thrown out of office and maybe into prison. Where are you right now? Six. Six. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I mean, okay, where am I? Where am I in the real America, the real world that I grew up in? Yeah, I should clarify. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying what do you think is going to happen, though?
Starting point is 02:06:24 Not the world that you think. should exist. The world that does exist, I would put it at a one. But I think this evidence is so strong that if they keep
Starting point is 02:06:40 pounding it and that you find as much as you have in the last few weeks if it continues this way, it's going to be a slow drip, drip, drip, and a stone moves with just small little drips. it decays and and crumbles.
Starting point is 02:06:58 I think this could be a slow drip that even in today's world will end in real trouble for the Biden's.

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