The Glenn Beck Program - 'It's All Been Done Before'? - 2/16/18

Episode Date: February 16, 2018

​Hour 1  Do something! Do something! ...it’s all been done before…How can we ever stop defending the 2nd Amendment?...Australia-style gun ban has not worked... ‘no evidence’...who’s ‘re...sponsible’ for these gun deaths?...Up to $100 million to get Trump impeached?...NRA = 5 Million Members Nationwide? ...Trump offers 'Giant Amnesty,' gets rejected!... ‘is there a place for us, Pat?’ ‘that ship has sailed’...the 4 bills Democrats denied ...Fight breaks out at the Olympics, U.S. not doing so well   Hour 2  Florida School shooter had no ties to White Supremacy group = Fake News...FBI and YouTube are under fire...Does 'See Something, Say Something' really work?...a very complicated and frustrating situation ...Pro-Abortion Democrat declares 'Our Babies are being slaughtered'...Irony: 58 million babies aborted in the last 45 years ...Fact checking deaths by guns...most are suicides...Japan has the highest rate of suicide but no guns? ...Born to be wild with bombers and butterfly's?   Hour 3 Mastering the art of being 'fake sick'? Pat and Stu explain… ‘just buy her a present and get back to work’ ...The media continue to exploit surviving students of the Florida shooting...Same old buzzwords buzzing ...Hero: Grandma thwarts school shooting in Washington...turns in her own grandson…disturbing journal entries described exactly how he’d shoot up a school ...Mitt Romney makes it official?... here’s what’s bothering Pat and Stu ...Jeffy is changing the armadillo race rules?...Glenn Beck fans drive away big winners? ...Guns are not the problem; these celebrity mass shootings are ...Bye bye cheeseburgers? The Glenn Beck Program with Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere, Weekdays 9am–12pm ET on TheBlaze Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Hopefully he'll be well enough to be back on Monday morning. As we continue to deal with the aftermath of the tragedy the other day in Florida,
Starting point is 00:00:29 the school shooting that killed 17 kids. It's just horrific. And the fallout this time, I think. has been even worse than I anticipated. It's, uh, the gun, the gun control push this time, uh,
Starting point is 00:00:42 feels even heavier than it, than it was before. Uh, and, uh, they're demanding that Donald Trump do something about this. I'm not sure what the president of the United States can do about this. He can't,
Starting point is 00:00:57 uh, unilaterally, do anything about gun control. What do you want him to do? New York Post had, line yesterday was Mr. President. It's time to do something with guns. Okay. What do you want him to do?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Well, they kind of name a few things they want them to do. They want them to ban assault weapons, of course. Things like the AR-15. That's been done before. Yeah, this is an interesting one. Yeah. Not just in some far-flung nation. It's been done in this country here in the 90s. And the Department of Justice released a report on the results and it said it did not reduce the murder rate at all. So it was completely ineffective.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It did absolutely nothing. Nothing. And, you know, that is, there have been other countries who have gone much further and received a big fat zilch for their efforts. But this was here in the United States. No effect from the Department of Justice. Yet they still claim this is the number one thing they want to do. Yeah. So reinstate the federal assault weapons ban, which did absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And of course, then they want to prohibit the manufacture of semi-automatic firearms completely. Oh, you mean so basically every gun that is sold. They just want to get rid of those. Wow. That's amazing. I mean, that's further reaching than most proposals go. By the way, further reaching than any proposal Barack Obama made while in office. So just left of Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Well, no, considerably. Not just left. It's considerably left of Barack Obama. Large capacity magazines are also one of the suggestions. We hear that all the time. Raise the age to buy firearms. Most states
Starting point is 00:02:45 ban drinking under 21. At 19 apparently Nicholas Cruz could obviously purchase weapons. Ban gun sales to fugitives from justice. Aren't they already? I mean, we already can felons buy guns?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I don't think so. And if you're a fugitive from justice, if you've broken the law, I think that's something that's already been done. And of course, increased background checks. I don't know. We already have background checks. What kind of...
Starting point is 00:03:16 And he went through one. Yes. He went through a background check and passed it. You know, I mean, again, you start getting to this point where you're just reaching for any time there's an indication of anything. And, you know, there's no way. They didn't know that he had made the social media post when the background check went through.
Starting point is 00:03:34 There's no way they would have known that. The FBI didn't even know who it was. So, you know, how would they have known it in a background check? And there's this thing. I think there's a separation, especially with things like mental health, Pat, where there's a separation between the left and the right. And we can say that, you know, they want to take all of our guns. And there are many who do, right? I mean, they're proposing semi-automatic weapons.
Starting point is 00:03:57 if you got rid of semi-automatic weapons, if you're not a gun person, which I know I was not for most of my life, you might not realize that semi-automatic weapons means basically every gun. I mean, there are a few guns that, you know, there certainly are some that are not semi-automatic, but the very basic standard gun
Starting point is 00:04:12 that you would own for self-defense is a semi-automatic weapon. Even a handgun. Everything. A Glock or whatever. Exactly. That's just what people have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But there's a separation with mental illness where this stuff does come down to a weird disagreement between the left and the right. and I am sure the right is correct on this, but this is the definition of, I think, the disagreement. The left looks at guns and says they can be potentially dangerous. Therefore, with any shadow of a doubt,
Starting point is 00:04:44 if we have any shadow of a doubt, we should restrict their ownership to people. That's what they think. They think, okay, this could cause harm. Therefore, we should be really careful about who we give them to, right? Yes. The right, which is the correct argument
Starting point is 00:04:58 says the opposite, which is they may be dangerous or not. However, they're constitutionally guaranteed. So you have to be really super sure the other way before you start taking guns away. And that separation is why quote unquote nothing ever gets done. When it comes to other things like mental health
Starting point is 00:05:16 and when people say, oh, well, terrorists are on a watch list, so how can they get guns? Well, the reason why that doesn't happen is because you can't, take away guns from people because they're constitutionally guaranteed. It is your right to be able to protect yourself. So only after you give up a lot of those rights by being a convicted felon, can you start taking guns away?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Just because someone is suspicious of you in the government, you can't just take them away. Now, you can do all of these things. All you got to do is amend the Constitution. But what if the gun looks really nasty? Really dangerous. What if a gun looks? super dangerous. You're thinking of the scary clause of the Constitution. Right. And no, there's not one. Yeah. What? Stunningly, there's not a scary clause. There's not? No. No, for the guns. I mean, though, for guns, there's a scary clause. Well, there's a Santa Claus, but there's no scary clause. What if they look military style? Yeah, no, it's not a military step. Fact. The opposite is actually, it's funny because people look at this all the time. Joe Scarborough has this endless rant today. I don't know if we're going to bother playing it. And we don't need to get into it right now. But an endless rant about how there's no constitution.
Starting point is 00:06:25 right to own military, military style weapons. That's exactly the constitutional right we have. Exactly what it is. In fact, the first ruling on this, when they went to ban automatic weapons, and they had a ruling on this, this is back, and I want to say that 20s or 30s, and they went to, one guy wanted a sought-off shotgun. He's like, I want a sawed-off shotgun, I have the right to own it. And they said, no, you don't have a right to own it because the reason you don't have a right to own it is because it didn't have value in war.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You were not allowed to have it because it didn't have a military purpose. And Scarborough's rant, which you may or may not hear during the course of the day, is all about weapons of war. We don't need weapons of war. Weapons of war are not protected.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Of course they are. Because when the founders were drafting the Bill of Rights, when they were drafting the Second Amendment, their thought was, you know, eventually this government could turn on the people. And they need to be able to protect themselves. Why? Because that's what they just went through.
Starting point is 00:07:38 They just went through protecting themselves from the government that was oppressing them in Great Britain. That's how they won. That's why they declared their independence. So the thought process wasn't, hey, you know, people are going to be, wanting a gun for deer season. And, you know, there's a lot of hunting and fishing going on in this country. Let's just say they can have some, maybe some hunting rifles. But not anything war grade, not anything military grade.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Right. It's not about hunting. Exactly opposite. It's not about hunting. It's not even about, although it's a definite benefit, it's not even about necessarily protecting yourself in your house. It's about protecting yourself from this government, if they ever become that oppressive and tyrannical
Starting point is 00:08:26 or an invading force from elsewhere. That's what the Second Amendment is about. That's why we're armed. And of course, Joe Scarborough at one point was familiar with this concept. Oh, of course he was. Joe Scarborough voted to repeal the assault weapons ban. Okay, when he was a congressman.
Starting point is 00:08:47 But then, you know, and people look back at this and, you know, they may remember this. After Sandy Hook, he came. out and changed his mind on that. And by Sandy Hook, I mean the time he started hooking up with his co-host who has liberal gun values. So what I say Sandy Hook in this context, what I mean is he was having sex with Mika. And he's decided to change his mind because she apparently runs the second amendment position part of the household. So Sandy Hook is in air quotes in this particular context, but he's become left of everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Including Barack Obama. Right. Like, yet he'll still brag about his NRA rating. Yes. Right. Like, oh, I've got a... From 1995. Right. 95. When he was voting against the assault weapons ban. Yeah. When he was doing that, yes, he had a good NRA rating because he was doing things that were consistent with the Second Amendment. Now he's not. It's the exact opposite of what he's doing. So it's just, it's constant with this. And I, you know, look, I, you hate to have these arguments. I don't, I don't know that you can stop defending the Second Amendment because if you stop doing it, this is what will happen. At some point, they will come and, I mean, how many times did they talk about Australia?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Australia was a massive confiscation program. They use it as the example of quote-unquote what works. Great Britain as well. Again, with Australia, all the studies afterwards showed no effect. It didn't do anything. Yeah. In both Australia and in England, the, uh, a gun murder rate actually went up. In fact, in the case of Great Britain, I think it was triple in the immediate years afterwards. And then it went back to about, now eventually, and it took a long time for this,
Starting point is 00:10:30 but then it went back maybe 10 years later to about what it was before the ban, showing it's not effective at all to ban these weapons. No. It hasn't helped in Australia and it hasn't helped in England. So I don't know why they continue to point to Australia and the UK. It's not effective.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It didn't work. It doesn't prove your point. In fact, it does the opposite. Let me give you two quotes about Australia. 2008 study University of Melbourne. Quote, there is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun buyback program had any significant effects on firearm homicides. Another study concluded something similar.
Starting point is 00:11:09 The gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide in Australia. Now, again, think of what they did there. they didn't do what they're talking about doing here. You want to talk about left of Barack Obama. They went way further that anything Barack Obama ever suggested in policy terms or anything they're suggesting now. They did something more like the Nazis did in the 30s.
Starting point is 00:11:31 They confiscated. They confiscated guns. Yeah. They confiscated 35% of the nation's firearms. Here, that would be 60 million to over 100 million guns. Over a hundred. You think they're going to go around and confiscated because none of these programs, The assault weapons ban didn't confiscate one weapon.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It just stopped you from buying new ones. And that's what they're talking about now. This is confiscating 100 million guns. And when they did that it's in Australia, there was no effect on firearm violence. Think about that. There's nothing. They can say they want to do something all they want. But the something they want to do doesn't accomplish squat.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And they still keep suggesting it because it's got, as we said yesterday, nothing to do with these victims. Nothing. It's got zero to do with that. It's not associated. There are plenty of liberals. There are plenty of people on the left who think this would be effective because they don't know the facts and honestly feel for the victims of these tragedies and think, gosh, what if we take guns away? It'll help.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Plenty of those people. The people who are on TV talking about it every day are not those people. Those people know the facts. Those people have looked at these studies. These people are familiar with the arguments. These people understand that what they're suggesting, A, can't be done right now because you have, you could have done it in 2009 to 2011 when you had control of all three branches of government, but you don't have that now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 You have control of zero of them. So the idea that you're going to get that through Congress right now, they know they have no chance of doing it. They're using you. If you're on the left making these arguments and quoting the 18 school shootings this year, they are using you. they are trying to get your money into their campaigns. That's the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:13:20 They don't care at all about these victims. Not at all. And you hate to see people, random people who have good intentions, who just want kids to be alive in their high schools to be utilized like this by political parties and activist groups. But that's exactly what's happening. It's sad. It is.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Empathetic. Yeah. I want to get into the big, bad, evil, nasty, horrific NRA too and how they own all our politicians. All of our politicians are owned by the NRA. Why are they so cheap? That's what I would like to know. I don't know. Why are they so cheap?
Starting point is 00:13:58 You're going to find out how cheap these people really are because it doesn't cost that much to own the entire Congress. That's amazing. It's interesting. Yeah. It's fascinating. It's amazing how the NRA can own the entire Congress while other groups who donate far more much more money to the left. to the left. Don't own them at all. Not at all. They don't even know what their opinions are, basically. Right. I mean, sure, the NRA is not even close to the top donor of these groups, but they are the ones that own the government all the time.
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Starting point is 00:15:45 Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn back. It's Pat and Stufer, Glenn. Still a little under the weather, AAA, 93393. Who's responsible for all this? All these gun deaths? The NRA.
Starting point is 00:16:06 The NRA. They're behind it all. They're evil. So far this year already. Okay, we're into February. They've spent a total of $264,000. Oh my gosh. $264,000.
Starting point is 00:16:21 It's like $1.95 to you and me. Yeah, right. Come on. That's nothing. Well, you're thinking, okay, well, it's only February by the end of the year. Here's what they spent in 2016 presidential election year on Republicans and Democrats. So this would be likely the highest amount they've ever spent in any year. You would think so.
Starting point is 00:16:39 $1,085,000. Total. Most of that, almost all of it went to Republicans, of course. but $1,085,000 spread out over, you know, everybody they donate to. They are not giving these candidates anywhere near the kind of money it would cost to own these guys and put up with this nonsense if they don't believe in the Second Amendment. I mean, that can't even be the top, it's not even close to the top donors for Republicans. I mean, because obviously you go to unions, you go to other groups like that.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's going to be a lot higher than a million dollars. spread over the entire Congress. But I mean, even for Republicans, there's probably a dozen groups that give more money than that. Why don't they own everybody? Why can't these, these, you know, they talk about the evil Coke brothers donating all their money. Well, the Coke brothers want less spending. No one pays attention to them. Yeah, we did, we did a story on this.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I don't know, six or eight months ago or so, remember on those cereals? The Coke brothers were something like 18th in spending. And they were well down the list. the number one spender by far was a Democrat. I believe it was Tom Steyer, the guy who's right now launching the campaign
Starting point is 00:17:51 to impeach Donald Trump. And he spent spending something like $20 million of his own money to try to get Trump impeached. And has it, I don't know, I haven't been following it, but has that happened yet?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Not quite yet. No. It has not worked yet. But, but. So guy running commercials on MSNBC where every single program already says that you have to impeach
Starting point is 00:18:11 Donald Trump, that somehow is not been effective in a peaching. No, it's not strange. That is very strange. And he's vowed to spend like a hundred million or something to get rid of him and to get his policies enacted. He's horrible. And he spends way more than the Kochs do.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And the Koch brothers are the ones who are vilified continually. Continually. It's like the like the Koch brothers are donating billions of dollars every election cycle. And they're not doing anything close to. to that. So, and this is what I've never understood about the whole NRA owns the Congress thing.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The NRA can donate money or not donate money, but it's the Congress person who has to vote, right? They are the ones that have to vote. And every two years with the House, you get a chance to say, I don't like the way they voted, I can vote for somebody else. And
Starting point is 00:19:07 if they have voted only with the NRA and you don't like that, you could just change your mind. The bottom line is the average person in America, particularly Republican voters, believe the same things as the NRA. They believe the same things as the Second Amendment indicates are legally required. They believe your right to bear arms shall not be infringed. That's what they believe. Why do they believe that?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Because I guess the NRA was donating to them too, I guess. Which is weird. Actually, a lot of those people are donating to the NRA. You know, I mean, so does the NRA? Is the NRA owned by the individual citizens? It's a lot worse when you're, it sounds a lot better to blame the NRA when in reality what they're saying is the average American citizen that votes for Republicans and believes in gun rights are bad people.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And yeah, because when you're disparaging the NRA, you're disparaging their 50 million American members. 50 million. That's a, that's a pretty good section, a pretty good cross-section of American people that you're disparaging all the time. AAA 727 B-E-C-K. Glenn, back. Mercury.
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Starting point is 00:21:53 So it's starting to look like, yeah, they're not going to get anything accomplished, which may be a good thing. If you're not an amnesty fan and I'm not, then this might be a good thing because all of these are now amnesty bills. Yeah, if all of this fails, it just means Trump keeps his promise on DACA from the campaign, which is part of the reason he got elected, right? Right. So, I mean, he's wound up giving a lot of ground on that particular promise to try to get other things done, to seem bipartisan, whatever, you know, whatever reasoning you want to assign to it.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But the bottom line is what he was talked about getting rid of DACA on day one. We're now in year two. And what, again, his proposal is to keep DACA and expand it. And he still can't get Democrats on board with it. The talk was 800,000. He offered 1.8 million. Nobody was talking about a path to citizens. He offered that.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, he was only supposed to be legal status. Yeah. So we have moved from legal status to path to citizenship and from 800,000 to 1.8 million. And there was nothing given in return for that. Nothing. Nothing. We've just now all adopted. He just offered it.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. And he's still a terrible person to the Democrats. It's amazing. It's crazy. So there are four bills that came up yesterday. Here's the details on them. There's a, the McCain-Coon's bill. Chris Coons from Delaware, provided a path of citizenship to.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If John McCain's in. involved. You know. You know that's got to be good. Gotta be good. So what it did was, again, though, these are things that the president has offered. The latest, the Common Sense Caucus? No, that's another one. Okay. So first was Coons McCain. Provided a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants. Offered no money for Trump's border wall. Did include some border security measures. It needed to get 60 votes. All these need to get 60 votes. It failed 52 to 47. So it still got over the majority, but it was not enough. Democrats voted almost entirely in favor of it,
Starting point is 00:23:48 Republicans mostly voted against it. So that was more of a Democrat leaning bill, as you would be not surprised to hear when it comes to John McCain being involved. And so basically this is like, if you don't give Trump money for border wall, you're not going to get any Republican votes, which okay, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:24:06 If he's going to give up $1.8 million and he's going to give up path to citizenship, he should get the money for his wall. Okay. Next one was from Pat Toomey. Now, Pat Toomey, this is the one I think is probably the most conservative of the bunch. Does not actually address DACA just talks about sanctuary cities
Starting point is 00:24:23 will penalize sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce federal immigration policy by withholding federal funding from those municipalities. This is the one I think of these four that I would probably vote for because it was specifically designed just to do that. It had nothing to do with DACA.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I didn't give any amnesty to anybody. What about a border wall? Did it provide? It did not. It was just no funding. Just to do. addressing this specific issue, Sanctuary Cities. I don't understand why they won't fund the border wall at all. They just, they won't.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They're not interested in border security. Well, they do do this in some of the other bills. The Toomey bill, however, Republican from Pennsylvania, who's generally speaking a pretty good senator, came out and said, look, let's just address sanctuary cities. That's a big deal. Let's just address that to try to get enough votes. He got more than the previous bill. He got 54 votes for it.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Republicans and a few Democrats actually supported it, but most Democrats. were opposed, so that failed. The next one was the so-called Common Sense Caucus. And when you think common sense, I think we can all say the words together, Susan Collins. I sure everyone was saying that in her car.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Right as I was uttering it. Because that's the first name that sprang to mind. Susan Collins, of course. So-called common-sense caucus was a large bipartisan group led by Susan Collins. The plan had gained the endorsement of Democratic leadership, which tells you right off the bat,
Starting point is 00:25:45 that it's not necessarily going to be a great thing. It was technically sponsored by Chuck Schumer. However, it was a bipartisan bill. The bill did things. Here's what the bill did. It did. And they thought this was the best chance of passing. It gave the Trump guidelines on 1.8 million undocumented immigrants would have a path to citizenship.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And this is the one that they said they reached an agreement in principle on. Yes. This is that one. Yeah. This is the big one. The Common Sense Caucus. So it starts with all the stuff that Trump said he won. and would give.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So a 1.8 million undocumented immigrants, not 800,000, but 1.8 million. Not legal status, but a path to citizenship, which is, again, a move to the left of both of those items. What the president called for. Right. So what did you call for? Also, $25 billion for border security,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and that includes money for the wall. Now, there was a complaint you had mentioned about, because they pushed back against this. That was not an immediate build of the wall. That was pushed down the road. several years. And then I think it was a overall a 10 year plan.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And Trump was like, no, that's, we need it now. Yeah. And Trump, we need it now. Trump said he wants big, a lot of, a lot of things. We're going to go through his. The last one is his plan. They did not give him everything he wanted here. They gave him a lot of the big,
Starting point is 00:27:05 you know, marquee asks. And they tried to make it look like the wall would be built. Right. But just like in 2006, when they said it shall be built and it was written into the law, it wasn't built. This wouldn't have been either. Exactly. So the the president and the White House
Starting point is 00:27:22 pushed back against this bill, said this bill was a disaster. Called it a giant amnesty plan. And of course, it is a giant amnesty plan. However, so was his kind of. Yeah, the 1.8 million undocumented immigrants get a path to citizenship is what the president suggested, which is also a giant amnesty plan. I mean, these are all amnesty, with the exception
Starting point is 00:27:38 of what Toomey wanted, these are all giant amnesty plans, just varying in their degree. Again, had to get 60 votes. only got 54. Democrats almost unanimously backed the plan along with eight Republicans, but the rest of the GOP conference and a handful of Democrats blocked the bill. Last up, and again, like, that was probably the one that had the best chance.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And everybody was talking like that was, it's a done deal. We got it done. Here it is. And then it went down in flames. They got 54 votes, but that's not enough. And by the way, the White House threatened to vetoed anyway. So they would have needed, what is it, 67, to override the veto, which they didn't even have anything close to. So last one was the Grassley bill. And the Grassley bill is the Trump bill. Grassley just took what Trump wanted and brought it to the Senate. Provided a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came to the country's children.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Again, same number Trump had been proposing. Offered $25 billion to fund the southern border wall. Was that immediate? That was, it's Trump's plan. So yes. So yeah, that's immediate. Substantially, and this is the other part that he threw on top. And is asked for from the beginning, he's been consistent on this, substantially curtailed family immigration and eliminates the diversity visa
Starting point is 00:28:43 the lottery program in such a way that would, as Vox calls it, gut the legal immigration system. Okay? So that was the Trump plan. That one got the least amount of votes. In fact, couldn't even muster 40. Failed 39 to 60. Democrats opposed the bill completely, joined by a notable number of Republicans
Starting point is 00:29:02 while most of the GOP conference and a couple of Democrats supported it. That was, does not seem to have any chance to go forward. And again, I think like, it's not a huge surprise that that that would not fail, that that would fail. It's just a surprise if you are a, if you're an alien and you come down from the planet Zoltar, which is wonderful this time of year.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I've got a condo up there. You're an alien, you come down from Zoltar. You've never seen this before. And you say, okay, what are the debate lines? The Republicans say they don't want to give amnesty to illegal immigrants. And the Democrats say they want amnesty for illegal immigrants. and in fact their president passed a legal end. They got it through without even passing a bill for 800,000 of these people.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And then you tell me, okay, so what's the state of the debate now? Well, now the Republicans are offering not only the original 800,000, but another million on top of that. Plus, they're not offering legal status, which was the debate before. They're now offering a path to citizenship, which is another huge step to the left in this particular issue. What they want in return is $25 billion for border security and a couple of changes. in the way legal immigration occurs. You would think, you'd say, number one, wow, the Democrats have won.
Starting point is 00:30:21 The fact that the debate is happening upon those lines, you would say immediately, no matter what happens with any of these bills, the Democrats have already won the debate. No doubt about it. Secondarily, you'd say, why the hell aren't the Democrats accepting this?
Starting point is 00:30:35 They have been given everything they asked for plus more, plus more. The offer from the Republicans more than doubled what the initial ask was by the Obama administration. Okay? And what happens in the end? They reject it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Because again, just like with the gun stuff we were talking about before, it has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. It has nothing to do with dreamers. They don't care about dreamers. They don't. That has nothing to do with their calculus here. If they cared about it, they would have passed. one of these bills. And, you know, to be fair to them, they can't pass it by themselves. However, there were bills in here like the one
Starting point is 00:31:20 Trump proposed that they could have voted for and had passed. But with everything we've outlined here and everything we've just talked about, why is it that no one in Congress or the president, the administration, can't come forward and lay it out? Look, here's what we've done for the Democrats. We've given them everything they wanted, really, And more. All we're asking is to secure our southern border. It's all we're asking. You can't come to the American people and sell that and put that right in the lap of the Democrats. I just don't understand how nobody can articulate these things. Nobody in the administration, nobody in the Congress can seem to articulate this so that we can break this logjam through the American people. Because I think if you outlined it for them and you set it up this way, Look, they wanted $800,000. We gave them $1.8 million.
Starting point is 00:32:15 They wanted to legalize these people. We're offering a path to citizenship, and still, still, they're saying no. You need to call your representative. You need to tell them what you think of this. You need to tell them whether or not you want our southern border secure. Do you still want the drugs to flow freely through it? You want terrorists to be able to freely flow through the southern border? you want illegals to pour into our country year after year as they have been for the last 30 years.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Is that what you want? If not, call your Democrat representative and tell them to vote for these bills. And I don't know. How can that not be done? I don't know. I don't know. Is there a place for people like you and I, Pat? No.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Is there? No. Because I'm totally not. Where are the people that say, you know what? I don't actually think we should double the number of. DACA recipients. I know what? I don't think that a path to citizenship is the right thing.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Right. Necessarily in this situation. And no place for us in that anymore. I think that ship sailed. Don't you think? I mean, it feels like that ship has sailed. And it seems like that's not even a possibility anymore. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Well, it isn't when the Republicans offer is to the left and what the Democrats ask for. Right. It's impossible to, I mean, the only thing. The only Democrat stupidity is going to lead to something here not passing because they won't accept very, be honest about it. Very favorable terms. Very favorable terms. Unbelievably favorable. Terms that, let's just say in the campaign, Donald Trump knew he was going to do exactly this. There's no way he'd admit it in the campaign. He would have never admitted it in the campaign. I don't think at the time he, I think at the time he honestly believed he was going to be tough on DACA. And he honestly believed he would overturn it on day one. And he honestly believed. He would overturn it on day one. And he honestly believed. that he would not give a path to citizenship to illegal immigrants. I think that's probably where his head was at that time. But the bottom line is that's where now his head is in a totally different place.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And he would never get through a primary in a Republican field of 17 people. If you admit this is what you're going to do. And now this is the Republican arguing position, not the Democrat one, the Republican one. And still the Democrats won't go along with it, which is the only thing saving us. Thank God the Democrats are like this. because all they see here is an opportunity to oppose the president and thank God they see it that way because they could get tons of stuff that they actually want or advocate that they want.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It's their hatred for Donald Trump. That keeps them from actually getting their policies done right now. And to get the wedge issue to continue. They want that to continue. They want to be able to go to their voters and say, we're the ones going. We're trying to protect illegal immigrants. We're trying to protect immigrants.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And they won't let us. I mean, you know, 99% of people are not going to do just the research that listening to this last segment would entail, right? Just listening to what the four votes were and how they went down. Most people outside of a talk radio audience are not going to pay attention to that. They're not going to go through that process. They're just going to hear Democrats good on amnesty or in my opinion bad on amnesty and Republicans are evil and they're opposing it. and Donald Trump doesn't like them. He calls them all rapists, right?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like, that's what they're going to know. And so I think maybe this will work to get donations. But again, wouldn't it be nice if these were, if these debates were actually about the policy topics they're supposed to be about. Yeah. If they actually had the best interest of the American people at heart, that would be nice.
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Starting point is 00:37:44 We were just talking about the Olympics. It was a terrible day for, for the United States yesterday for our Olympians. But the other day when the women's USA hockey team played Canada, lost two to one, there was that huge fight that broke out at the end of it. They were just a brawl at the end of the match. And like it's weird because they're all in the hockey costumes
Starting point is 00:38:03 so you can't necessarily tell their women until they take their... And then there's just this... And then it's like, it's kind of weird. It felt sort of strange to see a women brawl. Maybe that's sexist. It may be. Maybe I should have thought. Well, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:38:39 Truth. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. He's been, you know, feigning this illness since Valentine's Day. And Stu is just making the point. I mean, just get her a present. Just get her a present already. Okay. Come on.
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Starting point is 00:39:10 to work. Right. There's important things going on. Exactly. You know? Exactly. So, we've been hearing a lot about the shooter. First of all, we heard he was a white supremacist. Yeah. Not from him from
Starting point is 00:39:26 white supremacist. They're like, yeah, that's our guy. That's our guy right there. I don't know why. you'd want to claim him? It was very strange. And that was my first instinct when I heard that is usually the pathway here is someone murders someone. The name leaks out.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And then reporters, people on the internet, etc., do their research and discover his name posted on a message board or some website somewhere. And they say, oh, he's tied to this extremist group or that extremist group. And that's usually the way these things go. this was he killed all these people and then immediately there were those from this group called what is it, Republic of Florida, which Republic of Florida is a white supremacist, it's a white nationalist group in that they believe they want to basically make Florida into its own country and withdraw and only, I think pretty much only white people can be in it.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Which would be just from a logistical standpoint, difficult. It would be, you know, a lot of transportation cost. there would be a lot going on there. So they, that, they, one of the founders of this group comes out and says, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:38 he comes and he does exercises with us all the time, military exercises. And, you know, yeah, he's there all the time. And look, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:45 we didn't, we actually bought a gun for him at one point. Like, what person, they're in the middle of a, of a mass murder, and you're admitting to put a potential straw purchase of a firearm. That seems like a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And, um, it was a bad idea. although a different kind of bad idea. Apparently just this guy was trying to get, you know, attention for his group. At least that's what he's being accused of. He now seemingly is admitting,
Starting point is 00:41:11 and local police have also revealed that there is no tie between this guy and the white supremacy group. And it's interesting to see this happen because these are the sorts of stories that set people's opinion forever. They heard this. This was unchallenged for a day,
Starting point is 00:41:27 and now they're going to believe, I mean, some percentage of the public is going to believe till the end of time this guy was a white supremacist. We have no evidence that that's actually true. It may be true. But as of right now, we have no evidence to believe that he was associated with this group in any way.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I guess the guy who runs it is just sort of a troll, always looking for attention, constantly spreading his name out there. He's, you know, one of these guys that, you know, is constantly looking for this sort of negative attention because he believes it puts him on, you know, that side of, you know, the right side of history. He's a white supremacist, so he's nuts.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But that's kind of his schick. He's done it before. And by the way, I believe it was the ADL that initially did this, initially reported this, the anti-defamation league. And so it seems like that was them spreading fake news, essentially. So that's something that should be noted. FBI's under fire a little bit too over the sky. Because there was a person in Tennessee who was a big YouTuber. And he saw this guy's post about how he was going to become a professional school shooter.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. To his credit, the guy in Tennessee alerted the FBI right away. Did all the right things. Did all, you know, see something, say something. He did. He did. And the FBI came and talked to him about it, but they never got to the shooter. Yeah, I mean, because if see something say something only works, there's another step after that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah, if someone does something, about something that was said. Yeah. And so he did two things, the guy who saw the comment, and the comment said, I'm going to be a professional school shooter, something like that. And so he went to YouTube, first of all, and said, hey, there's this comment out there. And went to the FBI and said, hey, there's this comment out there. And seemingly took screenshots and stuff. Because YouTube's response was, that's a bad comment. We should delete it. So they deleted his comment. And the name of the user was the same as the name of the shooter, which we're not talking about. We were not disclosing at all on this program. At least Pat and I aren't. So at some point, they said, okay, look, we have this name. It was his real name. It wasn't like. Yeah, it was the name.
Starting point is 00:43:43 So you would think, well, the FBI can track down the guy with his, I don't know, name. Right. You'd think so, right? And I don't know. I mean, like, I'm a little bit more forgiving, I think, on these things. Because you think about how does this work? with the FBI. They're getting thousands and thousands and
Starting point is 00:44:03 thousands of these tips every day. 99% of them mean nothing and don't lead to anything. So you get this. They don't know where the person was. This is an entirely uncommon name. Though the spelling was a little bit uncommon, more uncommon.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But it's not an uncommon name. But they didn't know it was in Florida. They didn't know it was this person's name from Florida. They didn't know where he was. They didn't know anything other than just the screenshot. Plus, YouTube had deleted the comment. So they would have had to go through and, you know, I guess get some sort of subpoena or some sort of warrant to get the information of the IP address and then track the IP address. And I think the thought was there's not enough to go on.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We have one YouTube comment. What is that big FBI email collector we always hear about, though? It's a big program where they can... There's many of them, right? Yeah. Prism. Yeah. Edward Snowden programs.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Something else too. There's several of these things and you would think, well, one of those could have been employed and maybe they tracked the guy down. I don't know. They had his name. Name. His actual name. Now, I mentioned yesterday that they, you know, maybe you should have done more than
Starting point is 00:45:22 they did. And somebody said, well, what do you want them to put him on jail just on the comment? Well, no, but you show up and you. talk to the guy. If somebody makes a threat against the president, the Secret Service certainly shows up and talks to you and just kind of assesses where they think you might be. Where's your head at right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And if the FBI had done that and somebody was on to him, does that alter what he plans to do? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I mean, you certainly would like to take the risk, right? We know how it turned out when they didn't do it, which was not positive. You know, they did call back the guy who reported it. and they talked to him about it, but he had no information.
Starting point is 00:46:00 He just saw a comment. And so, you know, and I think that I'm a little bit, with all these threats coming in, and so much that they're dealing with, they see this one comment, and there's so many people online that say all sorts of crazy crap. I mean, we get death threats every day on social media. We could call the FBI on these things every day.
Starting point is 00:46:19 They're going to check out every one of them? I mean, of course not, right? I mean, they can't. You know, and 99.9% of them are just people being jerks. because they think they're anonymous and they can throw their stuff around. Now, this guy put his name out there. So you think that's a strange step. And maybe that warrants more examination.
Starting point is 00:46:38 But I think it's true if, let's say they knew where the person was. Let's say he had Florida next to his name. And they went to Florida, found the guy, went to him, said, did you post this comment? Yeah, I mean, I was just screwing around though. I just, I mean, I shouldn't have done it. I mean, just that, you know, he hadn't actually done a school shooting, right? And even if you assess him and you see, say this guy's a little bit of a danger, then what do you do?
Starting point is 00:47:00 He hasn't shot anybody. I mean, I don't know, but do you have probable cause to search his house and maybe? I don't, I don't know. Find his weapons cash. But maybe he doesn't, I mean, he didn't at that time have the weapons cash. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And so I think Democrats would say here, if someone posts a comment like that, you put them on a list that means that they can't purchase firearms, right? Like this would be one of their steps, I would say. Right. Because they said the same thing with terrorists. they said the same thing with anyone who has any hint of mental illness. I mean, I love the idea because this spreads fast. Adam Lanzah had a hint of mental illness.
Starting point is 00:47:34 He didn't buy any weapons. His mom did. So now you're everyone in his house. Anyone in a house that has someone with mental illness, you're not allowed to have firearm purchases. So that can expand very quickly. And it's why Republicans and conservatives and people who care about the Second Amendment are so hesitant to go anywhere near these things because they can escalate so quickly.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But even if you go there, Pat, and you say, hey, look, you know, you posted this comment, and that person says, well, you know, I mean, I shouldn't have done it. I was just trolling on the internet, stupid. And then two years later, he goes and shoots up a bunch of people. You're going to look incompetent in retrospect, but there's probably 50,000 of these people with the same exact thing happened that they didn't check out that didn't wind up shooting people.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And now we're kind of looking back in reverse engineering what they should have done. The job is a lot more difficult than I think that, you know, we're just kind of thrown out there. And I go back and forth on this because part of me sees this Edward Snowden vision of they have every piece of information and they can do whatever they want. And part of me sees this sort of generally speaking, I don't know, incompetent group of people that like, oh, he said he's going to kill someone. Just throw that one in the trash. We'll deal with that later. Neither one of those is accurate, I'm sure. You know, there's something in the middle there.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And I do. But it is really frustrating when the. guy under his real name said the thing he was going to do publicly. Yeah. And the FBI was alerted. And still there's nothing we can do. That's really frustrating. Especially, God forbid, you're one of the parents of these kids.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And you hear that story. Wait a minute. He said he was going to do it online under his real name. You actually saw it. It wasn't like it just happened and you missed it. You were actually alerted to it and you still didn't do anything. That is really frustrating. It is frustrating. It is.
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Starting point is 00:51:25 And you might think when you hear what she said, she was actually speaking about something else. but no, she's talking about, she's talking about gun control, of course, in the wake of the shooting. Here's what she had to say. It's going to sound a bit harsh. As a prosecutor for years, in appreciating homicide.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Kind of a strange statement. She appreciates homicide? Wait, who appreciates homicide? A very strange statement. Being able to talk with a judge about it and a jury about it. I had to look at autopsy photographs. When you see the effect of this extreme violence on a human body,
Starting point is 00:52:08 and especially the body of a child, maybe it will shock some people into understanding. This cannot be a political issue. We have to be practical. I support the Second Amendment. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. We have to have smart gun safety laws. And we cannot tolerate a society and live in a country with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered.
Starting point is 00:52:31 We, wow. We can't support a society or live in a civilization with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered. They don't seem to have any problem with 60 million babies having been slaughtered in the last 45 years since Rovi Wade. You can't use the word babies when you're pandering to your gun control crowd. You can't use that word. a good word for you. And when you have a 100% rating from NARAL, you shouldn't be talking about babies and the slaughter thereof. There is no bigger slaughter than the slaughter of American babies in the last 45 years. Literally 58, 58,000, 256 abortions since 1973. Nothing on earth has killed
Starting point is 00:53:27 more people other than communism. and an infectious disease? Maybe infectious disease. Yeah. It's about it. This is third. And nothing in the United States of America, nothing has killed more people than 58 million.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And I will say, too. It's the biggest slaughter in American history. There's no question about that. As you point out, 58 million is just the American number. If you put that as a global number, it does exceed capitalism or common. I'll bet it does.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And it does exceed probably. Infectious disease is a pretty bad one. Maybe in the last century. Sure. Sure. Right? Sure. you wouldn't include the middle ages with that.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But in the last 100 years, nothing has killed more people than abortion. Nothing. Nothing is slaughtered more babies to use her term. I mean, that is phenomenal that she chose those words when she has no problem with the slaughter of babies. And when she look at the footage, because she's all about looking at autopsy photos,
Starting point is 00:54:22 would she look at the fetus truck photos? There's always the truck that drives around near the Super Bowl that has the big picture of a fetus that had been dismembered on the side of it to try to impact people on abortion. Does she look at those? I mean, that's really fascinating because she says a bunch of things here that we should adopt and use in this discussion. Let's listen one more time and really kind of dissect what you say.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Is that out of it harsh? This might sound harsh. No, it doesn't sound harsh. It sounds like you're a massive hypocrite. As a prosecutor for years and appreciating homicide. and being able to talk with a judge about it and a jury about it. Yeah. I had to look at autopsy photographs.
Starting point is 00:55:07 When you see the effect of this extreme violence on a human body, and especially the body of a child. Right. Or a baby, an infant, a fetus. Maybe it will shock some people into understanding. Maybe it'll shock people into understanding. This is exactly why the people who show the photos of abortive babies, That's exactly why they do it.
Starting point is 00:55:32 To shock people into understanding. And yet, they're treated like freaks. Is Kamala Harris going to be treated as a freak here? No. This cannot be a political issue. Oh, and I love that. This can't be a political issue. Abortion can't be a political issue.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We have to be practical. We have to be practical about this. We've slaughtered 58 million babies in 45 years. We've got to stop the slaughter of babies. it's not a political issue this is not about left or right this is about right and wrong this is about the slaughter of our children
Starting point is 00:56:07 this is about the slaughter of minorities in a place like New York City where more black babies are aborted than born we've got to stop that slaughter we've got to stop it true I mean it's funny because they there's that constant
Starting point is 00:56:27 call from the left to call Republicans racists, right? People who are the right racist. Let's implement all of our policies. Let's implement the craziest fringe stuff from all of our policies in which, you know, no, there is no race-based preference at all. They talk about that with affirmative action
Starting point is 00:56:47 or preference in schools, like getting admission to colleges. What if we repealed all of that? What if all of that went away, right? The other part is you'd have to implement our idea that we shouldn't abort children And so millions and millions of black people who are currently dead would instead be alive. So your policies are ones that result in black people being dead. Our policies result in them being alive.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Who is racist here? It's such a ridiculous argument from the left. I support the Second Amendment. No, you know. But we have to have smart gun safety laws. I support choice. I support the choice of a woman. But we have to understand that there's another life.
Starting point is 00:57:29 stake here. There's a whole separate DNA strand inside your body, which is a separate body from yours. We have to understand that. Now I support your choice, but you made that choice when you got pregnant, you know, in most cases. If you didn't make that choice, then, you know, we've got a different issue. But I support your right to choose at a certain step. But we've got to have some common sense about this too, because we can't continue the slaughter of 58 million babies. And we cannot tolerate a society
Starting point is 00:58:05 and live in a country with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered. Wow. I mean, she's just given us all kinds of ammunition there. All kinds. AAA 727B-B-E-C-K
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Starting point is 01:00:14 year. Isn't it time we finally address that? Isn't it? Isn't it? I mean, it's way past time. You want to address the fact that it's not actually 33,000 people? Is that what you're saying? No, it's probably what? More like 150,000 or, I don't know, 3.6 million?
Starting point is 01:00:30 How many people are being killed by guns every year in this country? Well, 10 million? The murder statistics don't exactly support the 33,000 number or 32,000 number has been thrown around a lot by the media lately. It's much, much higher than that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:47 Much, much higher than that. No, it's not. It's much lower than that. In fact, considerably lower. Because the thing that they usually leave out of that stat, 32,352 gun deaths is what they talk about from the CDC. 21,175 of them were suicides. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:06 That is an incredible... Well, that's amazing. Incredible statistic. Wow. You know, look. Because if you're going to commit suicide, there's a lot of different ways to do it. You're going to do it another way. That's 65% of these, by the way. 65.4% of the number are suicides, right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Now, look, for example, Japan has a much higher suicide rate than the United States, but almost no guns whatsoever. Because culturally, that's a big deal there. Not a good decision, but it's a big deal there. So they have a higher suicide rate, but almost no gun. crime at all. There's no guns available for people to kill themselves, yet they keep killing themselves somehow. And we all know how those things occur. There's hangings, there's overdoses, there's all sorts of things that you can do to kill yourself. It is not, it's not difficult to do if you want to do it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And that is obviously terrible and tragic, but is not really part of the conversation when it comes to guns. If you want to kill yourself, you can kill yourself in a million different ways. So 21,000 of the 32 are suicide. suicides. Right. Wow. So that brings it down to like 11,000? Yeah, 11,177.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Now, if you look at that number a little bit further, 8,583 were murders of various sorts. The remaining 2,500 were accidents and unintentional injuries, which, again, I think you could make an argument that that is part of the gun conversation. Like, you know, there are some people who have accidents, handle guns poorly. they get in the hands of children, whatever the situation is. However, that's not going to be affected by an assault weapons ban, right? A kid who picks up a gun probably isn't going to pick up the AR-15. That's going to be very difficult for them to handle, right?
Starting point is 01:02:54 They're going to pick probably a handgun. And God forbid, do something bad with that. So really, it's not, it's part of the gun conversation generally. I think you can fairly say, however, it is not part of the school shooting conversation, right right it's just i mean so it leaves you with 8,583 deaths that were murders that is uh you got to break those down a little bit more as well let me give you this stat this is from uh a study on this exact thing let's see hold on here it is a lot of paper here in front of me uh so about what uh one study
Starting point is 01:03:33 after another shown legally purchased weapons which follow the all the normal firearms transfer rules accounted for somewhere between six and eight percent of the murders, six and eight percent. So you round that off to ten, you got about eight hundred and fifty of those murders that actually happened through legal terms. Now, you know, let's say a person who goes through a background check and does all the things they have to do, perfect, it's Pat Gray, the perfect citizen, right? Pat Gray owns multiple firearms and has them at the house. If someone breaks in, and for some reason they're not kept in your liberty safe
Starting point is 01:04:09 for whatever reason. And they take those guns and they go and kill someone. There's no way a law stops that. The person was willing to break into your home and steal your gun and they are going to go kill someone outside of that. That's not, there's no background check that covers that problem. It's interesting to note that if you're willing to kill people, you're probably willing to break other laws too.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Because it seems like that's like the highest law, right? Like if there's the one because I think there's a lot of people who will say you know what, sure, I'll embezzle from my company. Sure, I'll steal from a purse from someone on the street. Yeah, sure, I will, I'll do all sorts of terrible things. Engage in crimes
Starting point is 01:04:49 after crime after crime, but I'm not going to murder somebody. There's a large chunk of the criminal population that does draw the line at murder, I think. There's a lot of crimes of convenience. There are crimes of the ability to be able to feed yourself
Starting point is 01:05:07 or be able to just want a new TV. There's a lot of stuff that you can do crime for. But usually murder is... It's reserved for the ultimate criminals, right? But they say between 6% and 8% of all murders, so we'll throw it around 800 to 850 of the murders are with legal firearms. So maybe if you expanded those laws,
Starting point is 01:05:30 you could get a few more, it's possible. the other side of this is when it comes to murders by rifle. Now again, they're talking about banning the AR-15, assault rifles, Pat. They don't break it down like that, unfortunately, in the CDC numbers. They do break it down to the category of rifles. That includes things like bolt action rifles, deer hunting rifles, all sorts of rifles that would not be banned by an assault weapons legislation. However, that number, 2011, of the 8,583 murders,
Starting point is 01:06:01 323 were committed with rifles. 323. Now, overwhelmingly, the most murders, if you actually wanted to stop murders, what you would do is go after handguns, because handguns are the ones that are usually committing the crimes. However, they're going after AR-15s
Starting point is 01:06:19 because this is in our general consciousness right now, right? We keep seeing these mass shootings. We all hate them. I mean, I think it's something like 400 people had been shot since Sandy Hook, including San Diego. Sandy Hook, which, you know, again, by AR-15s? Are those all?
Starting point is 01:06:36 No, no. Just in mass shootings, mass school shootings. Yeah. I think it was 400 people had been shot in school shootings. Now, that would not include, for example, Vegas, right? There's been other mass shootings that did not happen in schools. 400 people have been shot at schools since 2000. That was 2012, right?
Starting point is 01:06:53 The end of 2012 was Sandy Hook. So you're talking about five years, roughly, which would give you about 80 per year. A very terrible number, which is. exactly 400 too high, right? Since 2012, the number is 400. It's 400 too high. We all know that. However, it's about one per week, a little over one per week. And there are 100,000 schools in the United States. So can, I'm not, I'm a, I'm a parent of two kids in school. Like, this is a real issue to me. I'm not dismissing it. It's freaking really important. And I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about these things. You know, you're protecting your kid is the most important thing you can do.
Starting point is 01:07:34 But can you legislate out one death per week in 100,000 schools? I don't know that you can. Can you shave a little bit off the edges with certain proposals? Probably, but the proposals they're going after are specifically shown to not work, not only here in America, but also much further reaching proposals that were enacted in Australia that also didn't work. So I don't know where you go with this. I think there is a part of this that is really uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:08:09 We talked about the Australia situation. They did between about 30% of the guns nationwide. They confiscated and or purchased. It was basically confiscate and compensate. They gave you some money, but they took all the guns from you. You had no choice. You weren't willingly selling them. They took the equivalent here in the United States.
Starting point is 01:08:30 it would be about 100 million guns. Now, think about the logistics of a program that confiscates 100 million guns out of the United States. First of all, that's not happening. Second of all, it would be impossible. Third of all, be insanely expensive to purchase 100 million guns. If you did that, what would the result be?
Starting point is 01:08:50 You'd still have 200 million guns in the United States. And none of the proposals coming out of Washington are even advocating confiscating these guns. They won't admit to wanting that. They're just saying they won't let you buy new ones. And not,
Starting point is 01:09:07 you could still buy lots of guns. You just can't buy certain types of guns. So what would the result be? Instead of there being, let's say, 300, 310 million guns now, you'd have, with no legislation, 320 million guns.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Instead, you'd have 319.5 million guns. You think there's really going to be some drop in crime because of that? It's insanity. It's, it's, it's a, Unicorn. You're just wishing you see a horse with a horn walk down the street. It doesn't happen. They sadly don't exist. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Thanks for ruining it. What if we did this? What if we took all of our guns? We fired them all at once and it exploded them in space. What if we fire them at the sun? Yeah. What if we just, we take all of, we take the world in a love embrace. Okay. fire all of our guns at once and explode them in space. That sounds like an interesting proposal. Do you have anything further on what would happen?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Then we'd be like a true nature child where we were born, let's say born to be wild. We could climb so high. Right. We'd never want to die. And wouldn't have to. With all the guns taken at once and exploded into space. You wouldn't have to.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Right. Or like is suggested by by another group of wonderful people who have come up with incredible plans what if all of the bomber jet planes above our nation turn into butterflies they just turn into butterflies above our nation Is there a specific legislation that would make this occur?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Do we have anything that's been sketched out? It's the Woodstock legislation. It's the protest song of the 60s legislation. We just make it happen. We just make it happen. I think it'd be wonderful, don't you? I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It would just be wonderful. It would be great to have all of the violent power in the hands of the government because no government has ever misused it. People don't realize that. Correct. They are, you know, now sure, you could look back at history in those dusty old books and dig up an example or two of 20 million people dead here, seven million people dead here, 60 million people dead over there, 1.2 million dead over there. You can find examples occasionally. Oh, if you're a stickler. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:30 If you want to be a nerd and you just want to read big, thick black books of communism that tell you the stories of, you know, millions of people dying when they're an unarmed resistance against the government that has all the weapons. I mean, you can find the example if you, if all you have to do all day is search for it. Okay. Maybe you could dig up a couple of times where government went wrong and rolled over its population because it came up with a reason, whether it was their own power or some ideology or some, you know, religious fervor.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Sure, you can dig them up. But I think if we're all going to be rational and we're going to come up with common sense measures, the exploding the guns into space is the way to. That's the way to go. And the planes into butterflies. Right. Right. I mean, you know, those bomber death planes riding shotgun in the sky, if they turn into butterflies
Starting point is 01:12:35 above our nation, we'd just be a world of peace then, right? Or we'd be completely unarmed and then Russia and China would swoop in and crush us. I will say not to mention. One of the two. I'm not sure which. We would have a massive problem with giant butterflies that would be terrifying. Imagine that? You ever see Mothra?
Starting point is 01:12:57 That's what happens in those situations. It doesn't turn out well. You just get killed by massive butterflies instead. Butterflies are just insects with pretty wings. Okay? Well, it's better to be killed by a butterfly, though, than a jet plane, right? A bomber jet plane? I think it'll be way more creepy.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I mean, a bomb drops on you. It's instant. This is like the equivalent of like, like, what was that William Shatner, attack of the killer spiders where they all just kind of kind of, creepy crawly you all over the place. Imagine what happened if we took the thousands of planes in this guy and converted them into airplane-sized butterflies, this is a terrible policy. Why?
Starting point is 01:13:33 What happened? You realized this. 50 years of this policy existing and no one's called out. Nobody has ever. The problem with, I don't know, creating thousands of giant butterflies that are the sizes of 747s. You know what? When I think about it that way, it's not that great an idea.
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Starting point is 01:15:32 Glenn back. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Hopefully he's back on Monday. There's another interesting report of another Playboy Playmate who claims to have had an affair with Donald Trump back in 2006. He was very reportedly busy in 2006. Yeah. Apparently, he said at the same golf tournament he was dealing with Stormy Daniels, Daniels, he also apparently hooked up with, by her word,
Starting point is 01:16:03 Karen McDougal, a slim brunette who had been named Playmate of the year, eight years later. She actually was a voted runner up for Playmate of the 90s. And an honor that, I mean, if you're a runner up. A runner up to Pam Anderson only. Only Pam Anderson beat her. So that's huge. She's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And so she, again, has very detailed notes, about 12 pages of handwritten notes that she wrote down, I guess, at the time. and then somehow and we'll put somehow in quotes I'm sure she wanted it to get out but somehow it made her its way to one of her friends who turned it over to Ronan Farrow
Starting point is 01:16:39 the guy who broke the Harvey Weinstein scandal and so now that's blowing up to yet another one of these scandals White House of course has denied it yep they called it an old story just more fake news Glenn back Mercury courage
Starting point is 01:17:08 truth It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Hopefully he'll be better by Monday, I would expect so. Even if he's not, he needs to get in here because he's been faking it all week. We all know that this started on Valentine's Day. Yep. And he's just perpetuating it now. We all know what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah. He didn't get anything for Tanya. So, oh, I'm sick. And it was just to buy time. And he's probably sending somebody out to scramble and find something at the last minute. Right. He didn't have anything ready for Valentine's Day. And then you can't just
Starting point is 01:17:48 you have to, if you're faking that you're sick enough to miss Valentine's Day, you can't just happen to be a one day illness, right? Oh, it's got to be. You're really sick. And then he's like, you know, it's Friday. Go back on Friday? No. You know, I think I need those two days to rest up to get my, you know, to get
Starting point is 01:18:04 recharged for Monday. I think that's the way he's thinking. And I mean, obviously, we all understand what he's doing. but it's disappointing. It is disappointing. As is CNN's effort to use some of the kids from Parkland High to push forward their gun control agenda. The interview that Allison Camerata did with two of the students,
Starting point is 01:18:30 to me this is just despicable. It's just despicable. Listen to this. I mean, is this not just trying to push them? into saying what you want them to say. You also have lost people. You also endured all of this and you were inside. And so when people like, you know, this conservative firebrand, Tommy Lauren,
Starting point is 01:18:51 tell you how you should feel and what you can talk about today. Let me read the tweet. That's not what she did. Wait till she reads the tweet. You tell me if this is what she was doing. Was she telling them how to feel? It got you upset from Tommy Lauren. It says here, can the left let the families grieve?
Starting point is 01:19:09 for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun, anti-gun owner agenda. My goodness, this isn't about a gun. It's about another lunatic. Now, in no point could that Tommy say anything like what she was accused of there. Nothing at all. She's talking about politicians and people who are trying to push for policy. Not about the victim's families. And she's not telling them how to feel in any way.
Starting point is 01:19:32 In any way. I just got angry. Like, she's trying to use like left and right. I don't think it's about any side. of political parties or anything, it's about children died. It doesn't matter what side of the gun control argument you're on. Like, people are dead.
Starting point is 01:19:53 And when is the right time to talk about this? Wait, hold on. So, because I mean, I understand it isn't about left and right when it comes to people dying. We all want to stop it. I assume we're all on the same part there, the same part of that argument. The issue is we don't agree on how to do it. Right. So that's where the left and right comes in.
Starting point is 01:20:09 So it does, like, you can't say, it doesn't matter where you stand on gun control. Of course it matters. We just need to implement gun control. Well, that's not a good, it does matter where you stand on gun control if your end game is gun control. Yeah. And that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah. I think any time. I think it's right now. I think it's two days ago. We have to talk about it because there's no, it's, it's already too late to change. That's great to get these 16 year old kids involved in this discussion. In the middle of a tragedy.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Something they, in the middle of a tragedy. Something they, in the middle of a tragedy where their emotions are all high and they, and it's an issue, they don't know anything about it. No, I mean, look, that's not a knock on these particular kids. It's like I know, I didn't know anything about it either when I was 18 years old. Right. That's not something. It takes time to understand the world. Right?
Starting point is 01:20:54 At 16. They don't have a life experience. They don't have the knowledge. They don't understand the world enough to vote at 16 years old. That's why they don't vote. And so is there a value to talking to someone who survived a terrible thing like that? Yes. to try to convince them to accept your particular policy prescription in that moment is a terrible idea.
Starting point is 01:21:13 And again, this is why we don't, the whole thing is, what did they ask you about? When you saw Tommy's tweet, how did you feel? I felt anger. Well, that is not a good decision-making time, right? When you're feeling angry, you're feeling emotional, this is not the time that you make your best decisions. And the idea that you're going to bring them on as, let's be honest, the way they're using, and this is not just CNN, a lot of networks are doing this, but they're using. using these children as props.
Starting point is 01:21:39 They're using them as props. Hey, hey, convince everybody that, because we're trying to draw on everyone's emotions, it's despicable. Try to convince everybody to sign up for my gun control legislation, the thing I'm wanting to push. And the last thing in there is, when is it the right time to talk about this? When is it the right time to talk about this? And everyone keeps saying the same thing. It's a new battle cry.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Yeah, it was, because they are offended when you say what Tommy said, which was just, hey, let's have a couple minutes of grieving before we start jumping into raising money for your activist group. That's all she's saying. It's a completely defensible position. But now the left is pushing back on that saying, well, we should have been talking about this a long time ago. We should talk about it right now. There's two things. You're right now is not the time.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Right. Last week was the time. Last year. Don Levin said the exact same thing the other night. Okay. First of all, it is not the right time to jump into policy because, of what we just talked about. It's an emotional time and you don't make your best decisions when you're emotional.
Starting point is 01:22:42 We talked about this with right after 9-11, the Patriot Act, right? Did we, whether you like the Patriot Act or not, did we have a real debate about every part of that? The answer to that was no. We passed it in like a, it seemed like five minutes. Because it was an emotional thing. It was an emotional thing. And we were scared.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Our emotion at that time was fear. And the emotion here is also fear. It was fear and anger combined and fear and anger don't combine to good policy. And when we know that in our, homes. You don't make decisions. Every time you get in a fight with your wife, you don't say, oh, well, we're getting divorced. You don't make policy decisions at that moment. You let yourself cool down. We don't go to bed angry. Something as unimportant as grocery shopping. They tell you not to do it when you're hungry. Why? Because you'll make stupid purchases. How much more important
Starting point is 01:23:26 is this? It's a great point. It's a great point. And it's just, it's just frustrating that they drag in real victims and people who went through this. It's true. It's I'm just try to accentuate this point because what they're doing, the reason why they want to talk about it now, the reason why they feel like today is the most important day. And they will admit this to you. It's because never let a crisis go to waste. They know if they wait, people will start thinking with their brains instead of their hearts. And they need you to think with your hearts and your emotions to get these things done. Because when you use your brain, you don't want to use their policies. Their policies don't make sense when it's brain time. When it's heart time and it's emotion time and it's feel. time, then it feels like maybe we should do those things. Then you realize you've got to do something. Something. Even if it's not the right thing, we've got to do something. Let's just do something.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Just to prove people to people that we care about these things. We need to do something. Something. Something. One thing, anything, something. And you'll notice it's never accompanied with specific policy prescriptions. It's just something. And if you want any more specific than that, it's gun control.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Right? It's gun control. Common sense. common sense reform because gun control is bad everybody knows that's that's not what that's not allowed frankly by the U.S. Constitution
Starting point is 01:24:46 which says that it shall not our right to keep in bare arms shall not be infringed so there's a lot of wiggle room in that phrase though a lot shall not be infringes a lot except for none none none no wiggle room there's no wiggle room shall not be infringed is pretty clear we already have in this country
Starting point is 01:25:04 created a lot of wiggle room that isn't there. Yeah. Okay. We have. You know, and now they want to create more of it. And we've accepted that. And even the right has accepted that.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Okay, well, we've done certain things. Like, all right, can you own a bazooka? Well, no, you can't own. Can you own a tank? No, okay, you can't own a tank? Can you own a machine gun? Well, okay, no, you can't have that either. Can you own a weapon of war, though?
Starting point is 01:25:32 Oh, no. Can you own a scary-looking, weapon of war and literally a weapon of mass destruction and AR-15. Can you own that? That's what they're trying to get rid of now. That's what they're trying to get through.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Have you heard anyone give the policy prescription for the 5 million AR-15s that are already in private hands? No. What's the policy? Are you going door to door for those? That's not a good idea. You're going to send out self-address stamped envelopes for people to send them to you? How does that work exactly? Mail back your A.R.
Starting point is 01:26:06 15 in this self-addressed stamped envelope. I hope it's padded. I hope it's one of those nice padded envelopes. Because that's a whole other situation. And I would love to see that go on. I would not love to see it because that would be a complete disaster. But again, they're not even asking for that, right?
Starting point is 01:26:23 They're just saying no one can buy new ones, which is something we've already tried and didn't work. Didn't lower a rate at all. Yep. So it's just, it's a, it's unfortunate because there was a story in I think the Guardian. Five things you could do right now to reduce gun violence in America. Five things.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Okay. Thing number one. Thing number one. Demand your city use data-driven strategies to reduce violence. More than 25% of gun homicides happen in neighborhoods that contain just 1.5% of the country's total population. The Live Free Campaign and the Community Justice Reform Coalition are working to organize communities most intensely impacted by violence. These activists believe that making neighborhoods safer requires addressing gun violence, police shootings, and criminal justice reform at the same time, not as competing
Starting point is 01:27:08 issues. So again, that doesn't necessarily mean gun control, but maybe there's some elements of that. And the guardian says you can do that. Strengthen your state's approach to guns and domestic violence. Again, this is something that I think a lot of people go with
Starting point is 01:27:24 even if you have Second Amendment beliefs. Tougher state level gun laws. If you've, if you're convicted of domestic violence, you can't have a gun. You can't have a gun. Okay. All right. Support. the effort to pass extreme risk protection orders. Advocates have launched a joint effort this year,
Starting point is 01:27:42 over 20 states that pass extreme risk protection order laws, which give family members and law enforcement officials a way to petition a court to temporarily bar at-risk people from possessing firearms. California has a version of this. Here's a problem with that, though. You've got an at-risk person in your house. That means you can't have any guns in your house, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:01 It doesn't just take it away from the person. It would also take away the parents or the, siblings or whoever has a legally purchased gun. Yeah, and these are not things, I think, some of the stuff you couldn't get passed because they would restrict people's rights to bear arms.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And, you know, that's the thing we never really talk about is that bottom line is most of the stuff that the left is proposing winds up getting overturned in the Supreme Court anyway. So, I mean, we fear these things because they're going to try to take these guns away and they're going to try to do all these things. They can pass all the stuff that they want. Overwhelming possibility.
Starting point is 01:28:35 that it gets overturned by the Supreme Court anyway. Yeah, as long as the Supreme Court is in its current configuration. That could change if a liberal ever packs the court. Of course. Learn how to identify when someone's at risk. Sandy Hook Promise and advocacy group founded by family members of the Sandy Hook shooting has trained more than 2 million students and adults to know their signs. So like that sort of stuff is, of course you can do that.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Right? Yeah. And have gun owners lead the way in preventing gun suicides. And again, this is a smart point in that, as we point out, 65% of gun deaths come from suicide, not murder. So can you do those? I don't know. I mean, that might reduce it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I think to me, we talked about the whole media situation. I noticed another person, I think it was on CNN yesterday, not giving the name of the shooter. There was a shooter in, and they don't have it in front of me. Of course, I had the story, but I'll give you the baseline here. grandma goes into kids' room, opens up his journal,
Starting point is 01:29:35 because she's feeling kind of weird about what's going on. He just seems a little bit off. Opens up his journal, starts reading line by line plan on how he's going to go murder, do a school shooting in a specific school,
Starting point is 01:29:48 which he flipped a coin to figure out which school it was going to be, detailed plans, and his description about how he wanted to set a record and outdo all the other school shootings. He'd read a lot about, about other school shootings.
Starting point is 01:30:00 My gosh. And wanted to make sure he did better than that. He's learned from their mistakes. Again, this is media obsession with the stuff. He comes to it and he says, I want to beat those guys. Luckily, the grandma actually looked at the journal and then looked in his guitar case, which included the weapon that he was going to use in the particular school shooting. He had planned the school.
Starting point is 01:30:20 He had all sorts of details about it. And think about this. What a moment it must be if your grandson is doing this, you open a. it up. You have this knowledge. What do you do? Luckily, she called, like she should have, authorities. They arrested the kid. And not only did she prevent dozens of deaths, possibly, at this school, also she prevented most likely her grandson's death, who would have either been shot or he would have shot himself. Yep. It's interesting. They did arrest him? They did. On what charge? I, again, don't have the story in front of it. Terrorist threats or something?
Starting point is 01:30:55 The defense was raising the point I think you're raising, which is he didn't actually shoot anybody yet. He was just musing in a journal. Now, of course, he had grenades and he had a gun. Okay. So he had, he was pretty well armed to do this. Although, you know, there wasn't necessarily a law that prevented him from having the gun, right? I mean, he could have had the gun.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Where does a teenage kid get grenades? That's a good question. That's amazing. It may have been explained in the story. I'm sure in the investigation they will come to that conclusion. But the point being that, you know, there are, if you can uncover these things beforehand, and we have caught a lot of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Thank God. I mean, being more aware is a big part of that. And I think not encouraging these people to be these famous celebrities in their communities, I think that helps too. And we can, we can, that's one that again, the media can do without passing any legislation. They can't blame Congress for it. They can't blame anybody for it. Except themselves.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Don't make them famous. Don't make them famous. Take every step that you can. What would that do? Would it reverse one out of every 10? Maybe. Maybe. And then, you know what?
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Starting point is 01:33:18 ZipRecruiter.com slash Beck. It's ZipRecruiter.com slash Beck. Glenn Beck, Mercury, Glenn Beck. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Mitt Romney finally made the long-awaited announcement that he's running for Senate. So when Orrin Hatch is stepping down the end of this term, and so in November, you'll be able to, I mean, everybody's going to vote for Mitt Romney. And he'll be a U.S. senator from Utah very quickly here.
Starting point is 01:33:59 I mean, they think they might, someone might try to primary them, but I don't think it's going to work. I think that we'll probably win 75, 80% of the vote there. Probably. So his announcement did come out and it was beautiful. You know why? Mountains? Mountains? Oh.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Because I don't know if you know this. In Utah, they have both mountains and snow. Wow. And they have trees and lakes. That is true. And other bodies of water. Is that what they were showing? Yes, they get the beautiful landscapes.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Have you heard this yet? Here's the, this is from Mitt Romney, his announcement. I have decided to run for United States Senate because I believe I can help bring Utah's values and Utah's lessons to Washington. Utah is a better model for Washington than Washington is for Utah. Over the last five years, Ann and I have spent a good deal of time with our 24 grandchildren. I've gone back to business, campaign for Republicans, and met with young people across the country. and has championed her Center for Neurologic Research. Given all that America faces, we feel that this is the right time for me to serve our state and our country.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I ask for your support and your vote. And I look forward to meeting you over the coming year. If you give me this opportunity, I will owe the Senate seat to no one but the people of Utah. No donor, no corporation will own my campaign or bias my vote. Wonderful. and let there be no question. I will fight for Utah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:35 All of that sounds fine. But then there was just a little teeny bit more when he... Washington has that backwards. Utah welcomes legal immigrants from around the world. Washington sends immigrants a message of exclusion. Ugh. Okay. Here's a problem with that statement.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Washington welcomes legal immigrants as well. The battle right now is over illegal immigrants. And you know, when you, when you, when you, when you muddy those waters, it just, you're helping the Democrats. That's, it's, it's just so disingenuous to say Utah welcomes legal immigrants when Utah also welcomes illegal immigrants. And so does Mitt Romney. And so that's what needs to stop here. And that's what the battle is. Can we stop being disingenuous. Everybody welcomes legal immigrants. I mean, I will say there's some that don't.
Starting point is 01:36:34 But it's not... David Duke. Certainly David Duke would be. Seriously, there's few people who don't want any immigration. Right? I mean, I don't know anybody like that. There might be some. Yeah, there might be. There probably are some. There probably are. I just don't know
Starting point is 01:36:50 them. I will say there's a new genre. Certainly like the alt-right types don't want that, right? And so obviously that group has has grown over the years. But I mean, there's obviously legal immigration built into every policy of security that Trump has proposed.
Starting point is 01:37:07 But again, Romney, big improvement over Oran Hatch. I'm not a huge Romney guy, but it's an improvement. Yeah, I'd say it probably is. Glenn Beck, Mercury. This is the Glenn Beck program. With Pat and Stu, AAA, 727 back. We welcome to the studio.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I mean, I use welcome loosely. Jeffie Fisher. Boo. Thank you. You're welcome. People just boo when Jeffrey walks in. People do or you? Well, I'm a person.
Starting point is 01:37:55 So I think it qualifies. Jeffie is joining us. We have a, Jeffie, if you don't remember this, we had the Mercury One gala. Was it back in December? November? November. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:08 And Jeffie was there. Unfortunately, they let him. in the doors. Well, he cheated during the entire lead-up to the armadillo race. And then he cheated at the actual armadillo race. Right. If you don't remember, we were raising money for the great causes
Starting point is 01:38:24 that Mercury 1 does, including freeing people all around the world and saving them. And we were talking about the armadillo race. For some reason, this got worked into the conversation, which made no sense. But we had to raise money for our
Starting point is 01:38:39 armadillo to win the armadillo race. And Jeffie cheated to raise the most money, first of all. He cheated. Oh, yes. He was working with the people who ran the thing. And I believe like every other donation or something, no matter who it was given to, went to him. Right. We set it up in advance. If you sleep better at night, believing that, I don't just sleep better. I know for a fact you did that. I know for a fact. That's what you did. Yes. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. You'll see. You'll see. You'll see it. And shockingly, Jeffrey found a loophole in the rules to
Starting point is 01:39:15 abuse them. The problem with the armadillos was they were stupid. Very stupid. And they didn't know where they were supposed to go. So they'd start heading one way and then they'd decide, nope, we'll go back there. And so Jeffrey picked up the track behind him and pushed them along, making them go only forward. By the way, that rule has been changed. Yes. I've been aware that that rule has now been changed in Armadillo racing rules. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I found that out as soon as I also got my plaque for being inducted into the jockey Armadillo Hall of Fame. Jeffie's basically the Bill Belichick of Armadillo racing. Like he's always finding the little loophole in the rule to exploit it and then they change the rule the next year. I mean, all you have to do is say, hey, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:39:59 And we'll move on. Congratulations. Not to you, though, but to Cynthia and David Bray who are joining us from, you guys are from Washington. Bellagrown, yeah. Very cool. Where is that? Is that near Vancouver, right? Right. Just northeast about 15 miles. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:15 So it's like suburban Vancouver. Okay. And you guys are the raffle winners of the beautiful truck that was raffled off. Yep. That's what they tell me. Kind of a big deal. So what car do you have now? What are you replacing?
Starting point is 01:40:35 Another little truck. Maybe. He's got a 93. 93. Ford. A little four. Oh, wow, a junker. Nice.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Yeah. A 93. Yeah, well, I'll have to get used to the power windows because there's... That's great. And so you guys, now you didn't... We say this all the time, but you don't have to show up to win the raffle. You guys were not actually at the Mercury One. No.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Gala. You, what, heard us talking about it on the air? Yep. And I wanted to... I just took a flyer? How many tickets? Did you buy like 100 tickets? I bought one.
Starting point is 01:41:08 One ticket. That's it. That's pretty awesome. It's amazing. That's pretty awesome. Because I buy one ticket all the time and I never win. I've never won these things. Have you guys ever won anything before?
Starting point is 01:41:18 Not like this. No, not like this. Well, he has, but only when I sign him up. I signed up myself this time. Wait, even. If you sign him up, I think it's your prize. You should at least deserve 50% of the prize. This one's mine.
Starting point is 01:41:31 This one's yours? So this is yours. You're going to be driving this yourself. This is awesome. You have listened to Glenn for how long? Oh, since way back on. Fox. Really? So long-time listeners, this is very cool. I know.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Because you hate it. We would have hated if you're like, actually I'm a big, you know, Pierce Morgan fan. Just give me the truck. I'm a big time. I'm going to take this. I'm going to sell it and donate it all to some left-wing charity. That would be very disappointing. So all going, all the proceeds go to Planned Parenthood. Wow. That's a really
Starting point is 01:42:02 rough turn. That would have been bad. Very cool. Well, Jeffie is our congenial host here and he's going to walk you guys out. around the corner. Can we, can you move here? Yeah, yeah. I will say Jeffrey moves really slow, but follow him. I'm going to walk you out so you can see the truck.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Yes, it's right outside. Drive this back to Washington. This is very cool. And you guys are going to drive it back, huh? You can keep your headphones on and you walk out there so we can talk to you. Yeah. Very cool. Cynthia and David Bray all the way from Washington.
Starting point is 01:42:30 They're going to drive this thing back. Now, as we're walking out here, before we get to the truck, I've got an envelope with some cash in it. Really? And I'll make you a deal. I'll make you a deal. You take the envelope with the cash and I keep the truck. Wait, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah, smart move. I know the envelope looks thin, but they're big bills. I don't know. It would have to be the Woodrow Wilson $100,000 bill to make that worthwhile. And it probably isn't. Oh. Coming around the corner here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Yeah. So you've seen the truck now. That's a beautiful. Beautiful truck. Not Canyon. No, GMC. GMC Canyon. Stupid, Jeffie.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Sule automotive. Very cool that they donated this through Mercury 1. You guys should get it in and start it. Let's see if Jeffrey took the engine yet. Absolutely. My impression is that Jeffrey probably stole something out of this truck considering he was in charge of this project. It's got no radio, no air conditioning system.
Starting point is 01:43:28 It's all in the back of Jeffie's car right now. Oh, they just fired it up. I can hear it. It started. That's a good sign. Yep. Very cool. Cynthia and David Bray. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:43:43 For Mercury 1. Not only did they get a free truck, they also helped all sorts of people around the world who were involved in all sorts of terrible things. You know, they've been multiple millions of dollars donated to help save Christians in the Middle East. You don't have to keep the car. We're going to all die of fumes if you keep the thing running. We're inside. You do realize that. Yeah, go ahead and turn that off now.
Starting point is 01:44:08 You can turn it off now. unless you want to utilize it to run Jeffie over. That is okay. I think that's what they were going to do. Okay. All right. Thank you, Cynthia, David. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Thank you on a much smaller level to Jeffrey. And thank you to everyone who donated to Mercury 1. You know, a lot of times you donate money. You kind of forget that you even did it. It's going to really, really good things. And Glenn is going to be back next week to announce kind of a cool new initiative that they're doing, which is a big deal.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Glenn is not known for understating the things he wants to accomplish. And this next one's going to be ridiculous. It's a really cool announcement he's going to be coming out with next week to help an incredibly devastating problem around the world. And that's going to be all next week. On the TV show, you'll get a taste of that as well next week. And then we'll be talking about it here on radio as well. And I don't know if you get a free car out of it,
Starting point is 01:45:00 but you probably get something even better. All right. You were talking about the grandmother who discovered and thwarted the Washington School shooting by just finding her grandson's journal and calling the police. And we were wondering, okay, well,
Starting point is 01:45:16 the guy didn't, he didn't actually do anything. I'm glad you stopped him, but what do you charge him with? Right. It's hard to get those. Sometimes, I mean, this is what happened with, if you remember to catch a predator, Chris Hanson, he used to have a, hey, sit down, have have some cookies and some lemonade.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Why were you talking to a 13-year-old girl for 47 consecutive hours. Why did you, we have these transcripts. Can I read you some of these transcripts? You said you wanted to meet up with her and do that thing. What did you mean by that? I love that show.
Starting point is 01:45:50 I want that show back so badly. Yeah, that was something else. I feel like it had really good ratings. I think it was just one of those things where there were some legal issues around. I think so. Because a lot of people felt entrapment. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Which I disagree with, by the way. I do too. I think on those circumstances. But it's somewhat similar to thing here. Luckily, this kid did additional things. First of all, he robbed a convenience store to get money to fund the plot. So they had him on that. And when he was arrested, he also punched the police officers.
Starting point is 01:46:21 They have him on assaulting a police officer. Pretty clear he was doing this. But the detailed plans were pretty detailed. He was going to take guns. And if you're saying, well, we could have prevented him for having that gun somehow. He was also using homemade explosive devices. And he was bringing them to Aces Highest, school. Imagine if you're at that school or your kids are at that school today.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Jeez. You were, you were chosen in a school plot and luckily it was stopped by the grandmother of the 18 year old in a name we will not give you, but his rifle was stored in a guitar case, which she discovered after reading the journal. Authorities arrested O'Connor at the school where he was found carrying marijuana and a weapon and a knife. If this is somebody you know, a relative, a loved one, how sick you would be. How, I mean, this had to be such a horrifying discovery to the grandmother, right? Can you imagine you think you're...
Starting point is 01:47:13 Oh, man. I mean, she must have had some sense or she wouldn't go in there, read the journal. It's funny because in the journal, he writes, he writes, I need to make this count. I've been reviewing many mass shootings, bombings, and attempted bombings. I'm learning from past shooters and bombers mistakes.
Starting point is 01:47:28 You probably should have learned that you don't write it down in your journal. That's going to be probably step one. But keep doing that. If you're out there, mass shooters, as many places as possible, so hopefully we can catch you. He wrote, I'm preparing myself for the school shooting. I can't wait. My aim has gotten much more accurate.
Starting point is 01:47:44 I can't wait to walk into that class and blow all those effers away. I don't understand. People he doesn't even know. No. Doesn't even know. You know, a lot of times they say, well, he was picked on or he wasn't popular in school, or he's a loner or a loser. This kid just chose them randomly by a coin toss.
Starting point is 01:48:04 He didn't even know these kids and was going to kill them. You know, it does say something about the value of human life that is assessed by some of these young kids. Yeah. They don't have any. And once again, he wanted to basically get a record. He wanted to outdo the other school shooters that have been made so famous over these years. And, you know, this is a step you can take.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Once again, the violence guns. gun violence murder rate is down by like 50%. It's not like it's going up. It's down dramatically. The only thing we're seeing rise are these celebrity mass shooting type of situations. And, you know, the idea is, oh, we take away the guns. Well, you're never going to be able to take away the guns. And even if you took them all the way or abandoned, you know, got rid of new purchases of assault rifles,
Starting point is 01:48:55 which is what they're trying to propose and will never get done anyway. But even if you, even if you did that, you'd still have 5 million AR-15s or 10 million AR-15s, still in the street. you'd still have 300 million other guns still on the streets. You'd still have new purchases of handguns, which arguably you could make, it could be easier. And you're never going to stop someone from, I mean, in the world of 3D printers, you think you're going to stop the size of a magazine?
Starting point is 01:49:21 Come on, what moron believes that? You could 3D print one of those things in 10 seconds. It's a ridiculous collection of ideas. And in the end, it's not going to do anything. he was going to blow people up with bombs anyway. So, I mean, at least, at the very least, you can stop making these people famous. And I hope the media will take some steps in that direction.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Me too. That's an easy fix right there. I mean, and, I mean, will it get, are you guaranteed to stop anything? No, but it very well might. So why wouldn't you just do it? It's hard to imagine it hurts the situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:56 I can't come up with a situation where, oh, you know what? That's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. I wish we had made them more famous. And I don't think that's going to happen. 3.8-727B-E-ZK, more Pat and Stufer Glenn coming up. All right. Volatility in the stock market. You've been seeing that a little bit lately. Bitcoin, I mean, it was at 19,000, then it was at 6, now it's back to 10. It's all over the map.
Starting point is 01:50:17 You might not have known, with all the attention on those markets, that gold just came off its best year since 2010. And gold's up over $100 since mid-December or so. Lots of room to run, I think. I mean, you know, you've got to make your own decisions on investments, of course. but gold is a part of my portfolio. I think it's a good thing to maybe consider making it part of yours. Gold has been a safe haven for centuries. We all know that. It performs well in times of volatility.
Starting point is 01:50:41 That's kind of why people go to gold. When things become a little bit uncertain, it winds up really being profitable. And if you've done well in speculating in the cryptocurrency, you've kind of gone through that gambling process. And you've been able to take a little bit of money, maybe take a little bit off the table and put some into gold. Gold isn't an all-in strategy.
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Starting point is 01:51:52 I don't know about you, Stu, but when I'm thinking a healthy meal for the kids, the first place that comes to mind, McDonald's. Right. That's what I would like in. And let's get him a quick happy meal, which is going to be super, super healthy.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Uh-huh. and then we'll go work out at the gym. Or maybe we'll work out first and then we'll go get the happy meal. I usually combine them. I eat them on the treadmill. Well, okay. Yeah, that's fine too. Big handful of fries on the treadmill for each step I take.
Starting point is 01:52:20 And because of this, you know, health conscious McDonald's mindset, I think, of American people, they're taking cheeseburgers and chocolate milk off their happy meal menu in an effort to cut down on the calories, sodium, saturations, saturated fat and sugar that kids consume. I will say this is one of those cases you got to read past the headline. Because just like they were talking about with a Tommy Laren tweet, when I heard this, when I read this headline, I felt anger. Oh, you did.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I felt anger. I can't believe the freaking McDonald's is going down this stupid road. I know. When you read the story, what you realize is, first of all, they're keeping hamburgers on the menu. They're just taking the cheese off of it. They're just saying because now they have a hamburger and a cheeseburger happy meal. Now they'll just have a hamburger happy meal.
Starting point is 01:53:04 The idea being that, of course, any human being knows that if there is a hamburger, there is also a cheeseburger because the difference between a hamburger and cheeseburger is just a slice of cheese, which we all know they have. So you can still order a cheeseburger and what they will give you is a cheeseburger. But wait, I thought they were taking the cheeseburger off the menu. They are, but you could still order it. They just aren't telling you that it's there. Why? Because they want everything to fall under these guidelines of the amount of calories. So it's not like they're replacing the cheeseburger and the happy.
Starting point is 01:53:34 meal with kale. Right. Is that what you're telling me? There's no kale burger. It's 100% available. There's no new mc kale. Right. At McDonald's. You just have to ask for the cheese on it instead of just being enlisted on the menu. As if we don't know. We all know there's a cheeseburger there. If there's a hamburger there, all the times a hamburger is there. A hamburger is there. A cheeseburger is also there. All times. It's always available at every place. This is not something that's a mystery to America. Well, do I have to replace the fries with apple slices, though? No, they do give you apple slices and fries. Oh, really? But they gave you these, they have, because I...
Starting point is 01:54:09 Like, it's three fries. Well, you know this because you, whenever it's something healthy, you bring them to McDonald's. You're there all the time. But yes, they have these little baby fries now with like 12 fries in it. It's not impressive, but it's adorable. It's McDonald's. Come on.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Can you realize you're McDonald's? Glenn, back. Mercury.

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