The Glenn Beck Program - ‘I’ve Never Seen a Bigger Act of Courage from a President’ | Guests: Salena Zito & Dallas Alexander | 7/15/24

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Glenn breaks down the timeline of the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump by 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks during a rally in Pennsylvania. How much blame should be put on t...he media for the rhetoric they have used when describing Trump for the last decade? Glenn lays out what Trump should say in his speech at the RNC convention. In breaking news, a judge dismisses the classified documents case against Trump due to the constitutionality of Jack Smith's involvement. Washington Examiner national political reporter Salena Zito joins to share her experience being four feet from Trump when he was almost assassinated. Glenn reads the heartbreaking letter of the daughter who lost her father during the assassination attempt on Trump. Glenn's chief researcher, security expert Jason Buttrill, joins to break down the proper steps the Secret Service takes to prepare for an event and the failures that occurred to allow this assassination attempt. Retired Canadian special forces sniper Dallas Alexander, who holds the world record for the longest snipe shot, joins to discuss why he believes Trump's shooter didn't work alone.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:31 America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. This weekend was one of those times that happen rarely in a person's life where you will remember exactly where you were when you heard the news. President Trump was shot over the weekend. I'm going to bring you all of the facts, all of the news, as any kind of. good journalist would do. I emphasize any good journalist would do. We'll do that first, but I'm not a journalist. I'm a commentator, so I'm the guy who tries to put it all together, so I can explain it to you and what it all means. We do that in 60 seconds. First, Jason from Texas
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Starting point is 00:04:32 Back. So let me begin with the news. On July 13th, on Saturday, former President Donald Trump was targeted in an assassination attempt during a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. It occurred just after 6.10 p.m. while Trump was delivering a speech. Let me give you the timeline. 6.10, gunfire erupted as Trump was speaking at the rally. Trump reacted immediately, crouched behind the lectern and as his Secret Service detail, shielded him. 6.15 p.m., Secret Service identified and neutralized. The shooter, his name, is Thomas Matthew Crooks, who was firing from a rooftop approximately 150 meters from the stage. That makes that with a rifle a very easy shot. 620, Trump was escorted off the stage, transported to a medical facility for a minor injury where he was treated and later released. 630, law enforcement began securing the area and investigating the scene, finding additional explosive materials in Crook's car and at his home. President Biden then returned to Washington early and political reactions to the incident started to emerge. Now here are the key details.
Starting point is 00:06:02 shooter was Thomas Matthew Crooks. He's 20 years old from Bethel Park in Pennsylvania. He used an AR rifle, managed to reach the rooftop of a nearby building unnoticed. That's not exactly true, according to those in the crowd, but at least unnoticed by Secret Service. Reports suggest Crook had a complex political background, being a registered Republican, but donating to a progressive pack. We'll get into all of this in a minute. The immediate response was a clown show.
Starting point is 00:06:41 The Secret Service's counter-assault team responded swiftly, according to the facts, killing crooks and preventing further harm. Did they, though? The incident highlighted potential security lapses and prompted calls for a thorough investigation into how crooks could secure access or to access a secured area, unnoticed by Secret Service, but noticed by the crowd.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Questions also have risen about the effectiveness of the Secret Service measures, whether adequate precautions were in place. There are allegations and denials regarding the denial of additional security requests by Trump's campaign. The political reactions are, just sick. Now, those are the facts as we know them. Now, let me tie a few things together. If Trump would have been killed on Saturday, we'd be at Civil War today. We would have seen, for the first time, the president's brains splattered on live television. And because of the details of this, I have a hard time thinking it wouldn't have been viewed as
Starting point is 00:08:10 JFK 2.0. If you think that there were conspiracy theories on the grassy knoll, let's look at this one. How does someone sneak a rifle onto the grounds? How does someone even know that that building is there? How is it that he was acting so weird and pacing in front of the metal detectors, they tried to follow him, but oops, he got away. How could the kid possibly even think that the highest ground at the venue wouldn't even be watched? My first guess would be, hey, that's the one place I shouldn't crawl up to with a rifle, because they're most definitely going to be there. Why wasn't anyone there? Why wasn't anyone watching it? Nobody except the shooter decided that the highest ground with the best view and a handy ladder just happened to be
Starting point is 00:09:17 there was a great place to camp. And nobody in the Secret Service, none of the drones, none of the things we pay millions of dollars for, none of that caught him. How did he get a ladder there? If the ladder was there, is it always there? Why was the ladder there? They weld manhole covers closed when a president drives down a road. How was there a ladder sitting around ready to climb up on the highest ground at the venue
Starting point is 00:09:55 and the Secret Service failed to at least take it away? There is plenty of video and eyewitnesses. People were yelling that there was a guy with a rifle climbing up on a ladder to the roof for at least 60 seconds, more like 120 seconds, before the first shot was fired. Why were the police just looking for him? Why were they just looking at him? Why did the sniper have him in his sights for over a minute before he took a shot? Why did a cop
Starting point is 00:10:47 climb up the ladder to look around? When the guy pointed a gun at him, he then ducked down and came down off the ladder. Did he call anyone to warn? Can we check to if the cop who climbed the ladder
Starting point is 00:11:09 saw the shooter with the rifle? Because this is the same story that we had in Yuvaldi. Is he a Yvaldi cop? Do we know? How is it the Secret Service has a bodyguard,
Starting point is 00:11:32 literal bodyguard, who is a woman that doesn't even reach Trump's nipples? How is she going to guard the president's body with hers? How is it another, Female Secret Service agent pulled her gun out a good four minutes too late, then looks around not knowing what to do, and then couldn't get it back into the holster because she's a Melissa McCarthy body double. I don't think it's a good idea to have Melissa McCarthy guarding the president.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Let me ask you this. Who trusts the FBI with the shooter's computer? Will his hard drive get filed with the Nashville manifesto? How is it that they almost didn't have snipers at all, but they got them the day before the rally because everything was going to be put on Jill Biden. I want Jill Biden safe. I want Jill Biden to have what the first lady should have for security.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But we are almost 43, billion dollars in debt. You can't hire a few guys to make sure our candidates are safe? How is it that we have a Secret Service Director whose experience is literally guarding two leaders of squirt and spicy Doritos? Did you know that's her background? Yeah. Yeah, she's in charge of the United States Treasury Secret Service
Starting point is 00:13:19 and her last job was head of security for Pepsi. How is it they're allowing, you know, randos just to carry guns around the RNC convention now? But no, really, this time, Republicans are going to get the sternest-worded letter written. It's going to be different this time. The letter's going to, they're going to underline stuff, and they'll put bold sentences in. This is a game.
Starting point is 00:13:49 and that's what makes this sick. This is a joke. There are members in our country that actually thought it was okay to post themselves screaming about how this guy was so incompetent. How do you miss that shot? Do you realize how close we came
Starting point is 00:14:24 to another JFK? If the president hadn't have turned his head at the exact moment, it would have gone into the center of his head. And we'd be a different country today. Now Joe Biden is also saying that we shouldn't make assumptions about the motive of the shooter. Well, I think we can assume one thing. He wanted to kill the Republican candidate for president. Can we agree on that at least?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Can we assume that? How can the media even think of blaming Trump for the rhetoric when the Democrats and the media constantly call him literally worse than Hitler that must be stopped at all costs? I just want to play some of the stuff that even we forgot about. Bowie, who's on my staff, who's in charge of audio and video for my shows. I talked to her this morning and she said, I even forgot how long ago this started.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He was Hitler who had to be stopped, even if it was an assassination, before he was even president in 2015. Let me go through some of this when we come back. First, let me tell you about an amazing deal with a great company. That company is my pillow, and the amazing deal is their $25.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 I believe that Trump poses a fundamental threat to America. Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were in the last century. President Trump is dangerous to America and the future of America. We need to articulate the fact that Donald Trump is a danger to America. He must go. He is a clear and present danger to the nation. Donald Trump is a fascist leader, and he's mobilizing his forces.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. He's a threat to our freedom. Yes. Is a threat to our democracy? Yes! He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated. The essence of the threat to the United States of America is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I see Trump as a danger to our democracy, and I see him as a self-proclaimed fascist. Trump is a existential threat to the future of America. David Aronovich, who presents Radio 4's briefing room show, took to X4-12 Twitter and wrote, If I was Biden, I'd hurry it up and have Trump murdered on the basis that he is a threat to America's security. Okay. So what do you expect to happen? especially when if you look through history, the people that have assassinated presidents here in the United States or tried to pull things off and kill politicians are usually Marxists, communists,
Starting point is 00:19:32 leftists, and then the occasional Palestinian thrown in there. That's the truth. Now, most people are smart enough to know. that homosexuals are not going to be disappeared as the view claimed, or that Trump death squads have now been green-lighted by the Supreme Court, as Rachel Maddow said, but it is addictive and it is contagious. And for the unsettled mind, it allows you permission to do something and become a hero. As soon as Trump was elected, Kathy Griffin was holding a bloodied, severed head of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Just recently, another celebrity begged Biden to, quote, blow Trump up for months. People have called Trump Hitler. The GOP, Nazi. Some compared stopping Trump to stopping Hitler. In fact, Dan Goldman, you just heard, not only unfit, he's destructive to our democracy and has to be eliminated. Others said that Trump would destroy the world unless he stopped. Now, I don't think most people actually mean that, but I'm beginning to wonder. I have never thought assassination of a political foe or the president would be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And I've not liked a lot of the presidents that I've had in my lifetime. I didn't think it was a good idea when a leftist Bernie Sanders Marxist gunned down Republicans on the baseball diamond. or a leftist using Reddit to run how-to surveys tried to kill Kavanaugh. These people are serious. And we have a president that is focusing on January 6th and the Gretchen Whitmer-Kidnapping hoax. It was a hoax. We know that now.
Starting point is 00:22:08 The left burned cities down over BLM and took a section of a city in Seattle passing out assault rifles to children out of the back of a car, and they say traditional Catholics are the real danger. Nowhere do we hear about the trans non-binary shooters responsible in Nashville or Philadelphia, or Colorado Springs, or Denver, or Aberdeen, or Perry. We're not even allowed to see the manifesto when we all know it exists. And now the media is just hammering that Project 2020, is nothing more than a Fifth Reich.
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Starting point is 00:24:50 I want to make something really, really clear. The only one to blame for this assassination is the shooter. He's the one who tried to shoot the president. with the facts that we know right now. I am bringing up the president and the left's rhetoric for a couple of reasons. Did it play a role? Absolutely. Are they responsible for it?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Well, I want to get into that in just a second. But the rhetoric has been nonstop that this guy is Hitler that has to be eliminated. He's a Hitlerian. he is a, you know, Fifth Reich. He is going to round people up just like Hitler did. That plays a role in unstable heads, okay? But you can't, you can't be responsible for all unstable people that are out there because there's a lot of unstable people.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But you can watch your language. Here's what I think really happened with this kid. And I'm just guessing. this kid is being pumped full of all kinds of bad ideas in school. He is being pumped full of all kinds of bad ideas in the media and social media. He is also seeing that you're really kind of a hero if you, you know, are part of BLM and you burn a city down. If you're on the right side, there is no trial for, you. There's no problem. In fact, the vice president will bail you out. So he's seeing the lack of
Starting point is 00:26:38 enforcement on one side, which makes it appear that that side is right. And the oldest question known to a man in the 20th century is, if you could go back and kill baby Hitler, would you? implying that you're a hero if you would. The only one that's responsible is the shooter. But there are other things that influence the minds of unstable people. And I want to bring their rhetoric into play because why are they going after Donald Trump for January 6th? Because he said, go to the Capitol peacefully. Let your voice be heard.
Starting point is 00:27:28 they're saying he incited this. Those aren't inciting words. Insiding words are much more like it's time we put a bullseye on Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is Hitler, who has to be eliminated. Now, I don't think that Joe Biden meant the bullseye thing, just like Sarah Palin didn't mean the crosshairs. but if you're going to be consistent, if you're going to be morally consistent, if you're actually outraged by crosshairs, then you should be outraged by bullseye.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And if you think somebody's rhetoric can actually cause people to go to the capital and tear it apart, well, then you should be concerned about the rhetoric of this guy's Hitler that has to be eliminated. And if you want to be morally consistent, because you're trying that guy, shouldn't you be trying this president as well? Is anybody on the left beginning to see the problems with the cases that they have brought? So here's what I hope the president would say. First of all, I don't think I've seen a bigger act of courage in my lifetime from a president to stand up and insist that he can look at the crowd, make an opening for me so I can see the crowd, and to raise his fist and say fight. Now, I know a lot of people on the left, they want to say, well, see, he's going for violence. No. Fight for what you believe in. Stop being mealy-mouthed about it. Stand up. Stand up. Fight at the ballot box. Stand up and stop just being plowed under by lies. Fight. You darn right. You darn right. I thought it was an amazing moment. However,
Starting point is 00:29:55 I was really happy to read what he said. He's going to Milwaukee. Yet another amazing. Think about what it feels like to be shot at and almost killed. How long would it take before you could go out in public again? He went last night till Milwaukee, which is significant. We'll tell you why here in a little while. He goes to Milwaukee and he's on the ground and he says he's changed.
Starting point is 00:30:30 changing the theme of the convention that's happening this week. He's changing it to unity, to peace. I would hope the president will come out and say something along the lines of, we're standing here today because America is resilient. A few days ago, somebody tried to kill me. But by God's grace, that bullet only grazed me. But it is a stark reminder of the divisions and the anger that we see today. And we're at a critical moment.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And when you have a bullet whizz by your head, there's two ways to go. One is vengeance and the other is unity. And our nation is divided. Trust is low in our neighborhoods and the media everywhere. But let me echo the words of RFK when Martin Luther King was shot. What we need in the United States is not division. What we need in the United States is not hatred. What we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness,
Starting point is 00:31:57 but it is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another. America is the land of the underdog, of the little guy, and we've always been that way. But when I say fight, what I mean is the little guy needs to rise up. Make sure your voice is heard to be not afraid. We need to fight, but not with violence. We fight with our words. We fight on the streets with our words and with our actions.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And we need to stand up and show what America really means to stand up against the fear and intimidation. Remember, America was built on the idea that all men and women are created equal with unalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. They're not just words. They are the foundation of this country. Beginning today, let's show the rest of the world what it means to be American. If you believe that America is an exceptional place, then it's the people. that make it that way. Every voice matters. Every citizen matters. Stand up for the principles in our Bill of Rights. Defend the truth with integrity and courage. Forgive others without compromising
Starting point is 00:33:32 our values. I would hope the president would say join me now in a different fight, not with guns, but with ideas, not with hatred, but with understanding. To begin to write a new chapter in our history. Let's rise above our differences and find our e-pluribus unum, our common ground again, because I do believe that all Americans should not be afraid of their commander-in-chief. If you are afraid of the president, either on the right or the left, that is showing you and screaming at you, the power in the Oval Office is too great. And our republic is out of balance. And that's what Project 2025 is all about.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's what I'm going to try to do. That's what the Supreme Court is doing. They are not empowering the seat of the presidency. I'm a president that is going to try to reduce the power of the presidency. We're the United States of America and we're strong, we're brave, we're compassionate. But it's time to rise to the challenge and fight with the spirit that has always guided us. Let's be the light in dark times. Let's stand together shoulder to shoulder.
Starting point is 00:35:08 We're not a nation divided by fear. We need to be a nation that is united by hope. This is our time to prove the American dream is alive and well. That's what I hope the president says. We already know the difference between the policies. We know for the first time in my lifetime, we have two presidents, two administrations we can A, B, compare. It's not like, well, will he do this?
Starting point is 00:35:47 we know what he did last time. We know what Joe Biden has done this time. The winning message will be the message that most Americans want to hear. This has got to stop. And it's not going to stop by me forcing half the country to shut up. It's not going to stop by them forcing the other half to shut up. It's going to happen because a leader stands up and says enough is enough. and can convince the American people can reverse all of the damage that the elites in our colleges and institutions and our media has done over the last 20 years to convince us that we're a bad people, that we're a racist people.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We've done some bad things, but usually the worst things we do are led by our own government. and I've never believed the government was America. I've always believed the citizens were. There are a couple of things that could come our way that we should be aware of. But the most important thing is that you reach out to those who think differently and you show them we are not the neo-Nazi fascist, that they have been groomed to believe. It is important today that we all reach out to somebody
Starting point is 00:37:49 that doesn't agree with us that is a friend. Just say, how you doing today? Yeah, I know. Our guy was shot. But I want you to know I don't hold you responsible for that. I'm sure you were just as offended as I was. If they weren't, move on. but most likely any decent American was horrified by what they saw over the weekend.
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Starting point is 00:42:38 And it didn't happen this weekend. It didn't happen, at least in my house, with the family, because I framed things differently. I framed things because I do actually want to hear my relatives' opinions on how they got there. How did you get there? And I could see that they are missing certain things. They are getting their media.
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Starting point is 00:45:48 Hello, America. There is some big, significant breaking news. Also, Selena Zito joins us in just a minute. She was about four feet away from the president. She said she could feel the bullets whizz by. one of the Secret Service Advancement actually pushed her down to the ground and was protecting lay on top of her and her daughter and a friend at the rally until the shooting was over. She has an amazing story to tell as she was obviously there. We go to her in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Mercury Real Estate. It's Real Estate AgentsITrust.com. The greatest thing about, oh, owning this company is not only the great service that I hear from people that they got,
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Starting point is 00:47:24 He was not appointed in the correct way. I mean, he's not a special prosecutor. You cannot just make up the rules as you go along. This is great. I mean, I was really upset about Alec Baldwin because I have heard things from people that were on the set that would lead one to believe that Alec Baldwin should go to jail
Starting point is 00:47:51 or be held responsible for the shooting on his film. However, the prosecution was was withholding evidence from his defense, and so the judge dismissed it. Well, I'm pissed at the prosecution, but the judge did the right thing. You do not cut corners when it comes to people's rights. All right, let me go to Selena Zito, who was in Pennsylvania this weekend with the president, and she was about four feet away. Selena, I'm glad you're safe.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Thank you so much, Glenn. So tell me the story. What did you see? What happened? Well, I think the story begins with, I was scheduled to fly with the president, along with my daughter and son-in-law, to do an extensive interview from flying from Butler, Pennsylvania, to Bedminster after the rally. However, a few minutes before he was set to speak, their advanced team came back and grabbed myself, my daughter, photojournalist, my son-in-law and said, the president wants to say hi to you. So they take us back behind the stage into a holding room.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And he's there with several law enforcement people. They're taking pictures, you know, shaking hands. It's a very happy place in this holding area. And he sees me, he said, hey, Selena, my gosh, it's so great to see you. Really, really looking forward to talking about Pennsylvania and talking about, you know, you're doing the interview. I left the room, and because we were behind the stage, they told us you're going to just have to go into the bumper because we need to get you to the motorcade because you're going to leave with the president right after the rally.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So I was in the bumper. It's a well that goes around the stage that separates yourself, the speaker, the president from the audience. And it gives the ability for photojournalists, thank you. goodness because of the amazing work that they did covering it and and and and chronicling it. And I was and my daughters has great photos too. And we were to his left. And Trump did something that he never does. I've covered his rallies forever.
Starting point is 00:50:20 He never turns his neck either way. Now he might turn his body, but he never turns his neck. He never looks the other direction. He also did something he never did. And he got, he got, he became like his Ross Perrault moment. He brought a chart out. And the chart had, um, on it, the, um, sort of the amount of illegal immigrants that have crossed. And he was pointing to the low point, which was when he was president when I heard pop, pop, pop.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Um, I, he grabs his face. I see the blood on his face. He immediately gets down in a protective. posture. He is surrounded, as he is being surrounded by the law enforcement, I hear pop, pop, pop, pop. Again, this sounded to me like a different caliber, not the same gun that was first used. And I watched them, you know, I can hear them talking. I can hear the chatter between them. I'm right there. And, and, and, and, and, you know, I can hear them, And at one point, they say it's time to get, you know, we're going to go. We're going to go.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And I hear the president say, I've got to get my shoe, guys. I'm paraphrasing. But apparently someone had knocked his shoe off when they put him in a protective stance. And he rises up and he lifts his hand and he says, fight. I can hear him say fight maybe five times. And he projects it out to the crowd. then they come past me. I'm on the ground at this point.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And he does not have his hat on, but someone has his hat. And it just sort of, it was almost like slow motion just fell right in front of me. And then they take him off to the motorcade. As he goes that way, I see people in the VIP section, the bleachers, someone is injured and people are rushing towards them. Within minutes, they take us out of the bumper and place us into a holding area. I think because they were worried that we were okay. It was very unclear if any of the photojournalists, you know, were hit or hurt.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And so that's what I saw. Did you get on the plane then with president afterwards? No, but here's how I go. of the interview with him. So the next morning, and it was early. Like yesterday, that was yesterday. My God, the sense of time is bizarre at this moment. He calls me early yesterday morning.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And he said, Selena, are you and your daughter Shannon and your son-in-law, Michael, okay? And I really want to apologize for not being allowed to do that, or not being able to do that interview with you. And I said, Mr. President, you were shot. I feel like we're good. I feel like we're good. So what did he say to you? He just, well, you know, he talked for a while. He called me back a couple different times.
Starting point is 00:53:44 We eventually did an interview. But the thrust of his emotion was someone who is feeling incredibly. thankful as someone that recognizes that that was an act of God. It was a divine intervention because he never does what he did when he did and the minute, the second that he made that decision. He doesn't know why he made that decision. He always turns his body, which would, had he done that, he still would have been shot. So whether he was facing forward or facing to the side, but full body, he still would have been shot in the head. But because he turned his neck, which is something he never does.
Starting point is 00:54:33 If you've ever been to a Trump rally, it's a very transactional event between him and the people that are there. And so he always is projecting towards them. He never looks away from them. And he talked just about, you know, he said, I had a humdinger of a speech I was going to give. Those are the exact words. He said, but, you know, it's important to meet the moment.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I understand, understand knowing that I was saved. And there is a purpose there. And that I need to meet that purpose, that moment. And he said he didn't, when he stood up and raised his fist, He said it wasn't about him. He said American presidents represent not themselves. They represent the country. To me, it was incredibly important to convey that the country is okay, that we are okay.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So, Selena, when you say he recognized this moment, it feels like this could be transformative in his life, but also his life as a a politician. Did you get that sense? And when he was talking about going to Wisconsin, he said that he's changing the theme of it. He's not going to go after Biden, but he's going to go after unity. Do you think this is transformative? Absolutely. You know, what is interesting to me, as someone who has covered him for over nine years, and has really understood the trial. voter, mainly because of my geographical and emotional location in the Appalachian Midwest. You know, people have turned Make America Great into a sort of slang term, a derogatory term. They call it MAGA.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But Make America Great, again, is an aspirational sentiment. And I think he understands that he is now transformed to being in a more aspirational moment, that we need as a country to be part of something bigger than ourselves. What is your take on the security, the lack of securing the president? It was a, I mean, if he would have been killed, this would have been the JFK assassination times a thousand when it comes to conspiracy theories. Why wasn't this covered? Why wasn't this covered? Why did they wait so long to shoot the guy? I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Do you have any? Well, I didn't have, in the moment with the security I saw was amazing.
Starting point is 00:57:57 immediate and protective because they surrounded him. They were on top of him. They put their bodies all around him. And there were immediately men with really big guns standing over me because they surround, I don't think that's seen as much in some of the video clips, but there is, that whole perimeter, there were, You mean, they were aiming it. They were there protecting him.
Starting point is 00:58:34 They were there. But having said that, having said that, I think the preparation, it appears to be that the preparation was, had many holes and was very faulty. You know, this is Western Pennsylvania. Not only were there outbuildings that were not even two football fields away, that were not in the perimeter. There's also then wooded areas around it. Western Pennsylvania, it's filled with crops of trees everywhere. You know, so when you look at that, you wonder, huh, why was, that should have been secured. Somebody could have been in those trees.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Well, they usually will take something and they will block the view from those. areas. If they can't secure it, they'll put a, you know, a big sign or something in the way. So if somebody were in the woods or on that, on that rooftop, they wouldn't have view of the stage. And that wasn't done either for some unknown reason. No. And the assumption I had going in is I'm walking in at around noon that those outbuildings, this is a farm show complex. So at a farm show complex, there's always, always these big sheds that, you know, have where the livestock are, you know, for these big farm events, farm shows are big deals in the Great Lakes Midwest. And I made the assumption that they were,
Starting point is 01:00:13 along with the buildings right behind them, which was that business that he climbed onto, I assumed they were part of the protective area. But, now we're finding out obviously they were not. They were not. Selina, I know you have to run. Thank you so much for making time for us today and I'm glad that you're well and that things worked out
Starting point is 01:00:36 the way they did over the weekend. Thank you so much, Selena. God bless. Thank you so much. I want to go to somebody else who was there and actually provided aid for the man who was killed. There's something
Starting point is 01:00:54 thing that I think everybody is missing in this. And that is the reaction of the crowd. If you think MAGA is just these horrible people, I want you to listen to the other person that we wanted you to hear from today. And we'll do that in 60 seconds. Stand by. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It is the IFCJ.
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Starting point is 01:03:01 All right. So let me play some audio. This is from a doctor that rushed to the aid of somebody who was trying to cover their children and save their children and he died protecting them. Listen to this. After that interview to the left, and I got to get this guy, tremendous credit, was a Army combat veteran. and excuse me he after the interview he came up to me and said brother there's blood on your face I said okay and he gave me his water ball and I washed it off and I looked at my shirt and I washed off as much as I could and then I handed the ball back he wouldn't take it and then he
Starting point is 01:03:49 stepped into me put his hand on his shoulder and said are you okay brother I saw the combat veteran across the bare of his hat and I said something like you've seen this too. And he goes, yeah, I said, I'm okay. And thank you for what you did. The reason why I wanted you to hear that today is this guy who in the crowd saw a need, this doctor, and went over and tried to resuscitate an avid supporter of the former president who came with his family and his children,
Starting point is 01:04:32 and when the shots rang out, he covered his children. He was killed. But this doctor ran over to try to resuscitate him and bring him back. It didn't work. But he wasn't the only one. There was, this is not an angry, vengeful group of people. This is who Americans really are. And I wanted you to hear about the veteran that nobody was talking about that just came over and wiped the doctor's face and hugged him and supported him.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It was a moment that I haven't seen since 9-12, 2001, the day after the World Trade Center came down. That's who these people are. and for those people who might be listening who do not agree with me or they don't think they agree with me because they've only gotten their news from mainstream media, I really believe that that's who you are as well. I really believe that most Americans, not the diehard political gamers, but the average American, they want this madness to stop.
Starting point is 01:06:00 They do believe that our lives are blessed and we're headed in the wrong direction. But we can't agree on who's causing it or what is causing it. And let me just say it's the loss of our values that are causing this. And I don't mean go to church every Sunday. I mean the loss of the values that are in. enshrined in our Declaration of Independence and in our Bill of Rights. You want those to be restored and properly charged, and so do I. How comfortable are you with the things the way they are right now?
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Starting point is 01:08:24 in a completely different way. And she issued a statement almost immediately after. And I want to read it because I think it is the right tone and I think it's just beautiful. She said, I'm thinking of you now, my fellow Americans. We have always been a unique union. America, the fabric of our gentle nation, is tattered. But our courage and common sense must ascend and bring us back together as one.
Starting point is 01:08:55 When I watched that violent bullet strike my husband, Donald, I realized my life and Baron's life were on the brink of devastating change. I'm grateful to the brave Secret Service. agents and law enforcement officials who risk their own lives to protect my husband. To the families of the innocent victims who are now suffering from this heinous act, I humbly offer my sincerest sympathy. You need to summon your inner strength for such terrible reason saddens me. A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to wring out my Donald's passion, his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration.
Starting point is 01:09:37 The core facets of my husband's life, his human side, were buried below the political machine. Donald, the generous and caring man who I have been with through the best of times and the worst of times. Let us not forget that differing opinions, policy, and political games are inferior to love our personal structure, structural and life commitment until death is at serious risk. political concepts are simple when compared to us human beings. We are all humans and fundamentally, instinctively, we all want to help one another. American politics are only one vehicle that can uplift our communities. Love, compassion, kindness, and empathy are necessities. Let us remember that when the time comes to look beyond the left and right,
Starting point is 01:10:31 beyond the red and the blue, we all come from families with a passion to fight for a better life together while we're here in this earthly realm. Dawn is here again. Let us reunite now. This morning ascend above the hate, the vitriol, and the simple-minded ideas that ignite violence. We all want a world where respect is paramount, family is first, and love transcends. We can realize this world again.
Starting point is 01:11:03 each of us must demand to get it back. We must insist that respect fills the cornerstone of our relationships again. I am thinking of you, my fellow Americans. The winds of change have arrived. For those of you who cry in support, I thank you. I commend those of you who have reached out beyond the political divide. Thank you for remembering that every single politician is a man or a woman, with a loving family.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I'm telling you, I think the Trump family is handling this absolutely perfectly. And if Selena Zito is correct, we may see a different man in Donald Trump. He's already said that he's changing the theme and the emphasis of the convention, at least his speech. He said it will be a very different speech than it was going to be. And it's not going to focus on, you know, we got to get Joe Biden out. But more aspirational tones of who we really are. Speaking of who we really are, if I may also read the letter from the daughter of the hero father that saved his family's life.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yesterday, she wrote, time stopped. And when it started again, my family and I started living a real life nightmare. What was supposed to be an exciting day that we had all looked forward to, especially my dad turned into the most traumatizing experiences someone could imagine. I know the media will cover this event and I'm going to try my best to stay away from looking at everything, especially because I've already seen and lived through it in real time. But I want everyone to know what the media will not cover and will not. say about my dad. He was the best dad a girl could ever ask for. My sister and I have never
Starting point is 01:13:15 needed for anything. You call, he would answer, and he would do whatever it is you needed. And if he didn't know how, he would figure out how. He could talk and make friends with anyone, which is what he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it. He was a man of God. He loved Jesus fiercely. He also looked after our church. and our family members as well. The media will not tell you that he died a real-life superhero. They're not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mom and I to the ground. They're not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us.
Starting point is 01:13:54 He loved his family. He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us. And I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him, thank you. I want nothing more than to wake up and for this not to be the reality for me and my family. Yesterday we lost a selfless, loving, father, husband, brother. I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day I die too. July 13th will be remembered as the day that changed my life. And I will never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago.
Starting point is 01:14:37 There are a lot of children out there that say their dad is their here. hero, but my dad really is mine. I wouldn't be here today without him. Dad, I love you so much. There aren't words to express how deep that love goes. I know you're going to give heaven some hell, and I know God is proud of the man that came to his gates yesterday. So what does this mean for us going forward? Well, I think some questions need to be answered. Questions need to be answered and people need to be fired or resign. The head of the Secret Service. There's been problems with the Secret Service for a long time.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And our president and our candidates are not safe. Let me say this again. If you don't want this to happen again, our president and the candidates are not safe under. the Secret Service. They're just not. I have been saying this for years, but it has gotten much, much worse. This is the last chance for our Secret Service and Treasury, our DOJ and FBI, to save their credibility. If they are not responsive, if they don't give us
Starting point is 01:16:25 truth, clear answers, and holds people responsible, no one will believe them ever again. They cannot fail on this. Congress and the Senate must not fail on this, and not because you want to assign blame, but because you want to find out the truth on what happened. How could these kinds of mistakes at this level happen. Yesterday, if Donald Trump or Saturday, if he would have not moved his head, the bullet would have connected in the center of his head, and we would be in a very different world today. But by the grace of God, are we not in civil war, and we still have our candidates? literally by the grace of God. Let's fix this problem before somebody tries it again.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Not just on Trump, but Biden or RFK. There is no excuse. There is no, there is absolutely no reason with a country that is in debt, I don't even know what the number is anymore, $35 trillion in debt that sends hundreds of billions of billion, of dollars all over the world for God only knows what. There is no excuse that we didn't have the money to be able to protect the president or the political challengers.
Starting point is 01:18:11 There's no excuse. The head of the Secret Service, her last job was head of security at Pepsi. I'm not sure that disqualifies you, but I'm also not sure that qualifies you. and unfortunately it was a DEI kind of higher. She's been pushing DEI and we've had problems with the Secret Service detail that we know of with Kamala Harris. One of her Secret Service detail was all DEIed up and was a little bit crazy, it seems. This is the most serious thing that we as people need to look at. It's not about Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:19:20 It's not about Joe Biden. This is about protecting the constitutionally elected president and those who challenge him. We live in a very different world. And it has happened over and over again. The one thing that nobody is really talking about behind me on the set today is the letter, or I'm sorry, the speech that Teddy Roosevelt gave when he was going to accept the nomination of his party. He was shot. In his pocket, he had folded his speech and his glasses in a leather case. and his glasses in a leather case.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Now, this is not the one that he was carrying at the time. This is another pair exactly like it that he had. The Smithsonian has the case with the bullet hole in it, but he had it in his front shirt pocket. And here is the speech, and let me put this behind it, you can see he had it folded, and you can see the bullet hole in it. This happened in Wisconsin. where they were having the convention almost exactly the same thing happened as happened on Saturday as the president is going to Wisconsin.
Starting point is 01:20:53 And then after that happens, our current president goes to Chicago. These are dangerous cities for conventions, historically speaking. we must secure the president and our candidates. That should be top priority for Congress and the Senate. Number one. Back in a minute. Okay, your God-given freedoms are up for grabs right now. We don't know what our country is going to look like in six months from now.
Starting point is 01:21:37 there are people that have sworn a duty to protect your freedom. And I don't think they're doing a very good job at it. And in fact, we are still now threatening with more war. We're threatening China. We're threatening Russia. We've gone insane. Self-reliance is the most important thing you can do right now, is be self-reliant. do you have a water filtration at home?
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Starting point is 01:23:38 He's retired Canadian Special Forces sniper. He has set the world record for his shooting in combat. And he said, what happened on Saturday absolutely cannot happen without help. We're going to talk to him. and get his point of view on this here in next hour. Also, Jason Buttrill is going to be joining us. There's a lot going on today. The president's case on his, you know, taking the files out of the White House,
Starting point is 01:24:12 that has been dropped now because the judge has ruled that the special prosecutor is not a special prosecutor, was not appointed in a constitutional way, by any stretch of the imagination and had no right to bring this case. So it has now been thrown out. That's going to accept a lot of people. Also, President Trump is expected and said that he would make his decision on vice president today. The convention starts in Wisconsin today. Have I missed anything, Stu?
Starting point is 01:24:48 I don't know. There's so many huge things. Oh, yeah, Taylor Swift had to pause a concert because she ate a bug. So we didn't get into that yet. We can get into that coming up. Next hour. It's a real story. She killed the bug.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I think the bug's dead. No one will even talk about it. That's the only other story we haven't covered so far. How do we miss that story? Let me tell you about rough greens. Caring for your dog can be an awful lot of work. You know, you got to take him out. You got to fluff the pillows for him.
Starting point is 01:25:29 You got to feed him. my gosh, when will it end? But your dog gives you so much joy and so much love that you want him to have the best life. And if you're giving your dog kibble food, which I do give, Uno, I thought it was good. No matter how much you're spending on kibble food, it's missing some really critical stuff because all the nutrition is cooked out of it. That's why there's rough greens. Make sure that you get rough greens. If you haven't tried it with your dog yet, please do. It's a supplement that you sprinkle on your dog's food. It has vitamins, minerals, probiotics, antioxidants. If it's healthy for your dog, it's most likely in rough greens. And my dog used to be a very picky eater. My gosh, this weekend,
Starting point is 01:26:11 he came out with just a bunch of his food in his mouth and then dropped it on the floor just to be with the family and ate it off the floor. So he's not really a picky eater anymore. As long as it has rough greens, rough greens, ruffffgreens.com slash Beck, 833, GLENN-33. get your first trial bag for free, roughgreens.com slash Beck. Hello America and welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Well, this weekend, a little bit of news was breaking involving Donald Trump and we still don't know all of the answers. And this, I believe, is the last chance for our Justice Department, the Secret Service, the FBI, to actually do their job, come clean, be completely transparent.
Starting point is 01:28:05 and tell us exactly what they know, when they knew, and all of the details on the shooter. If they fail to do that, they will be a failed organization and our justice system will never be the same. We go into that and ask some of the questions that need to be asked by Congress and the Senate and answers need to be had.
Starting point is 01:28:29 We do that also, we have coming up, Dallas Alexander, he's a former sniper, He has set the record in battle for the longest sniper kill. He said he was watching this and looking at it, and he said something's not right. There's no way this could happen. We're going to talk to him about that in about 30 minutes. Stand by.
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Starting point is 01:30:12 It's Patriotmobile.com slash back. All right. We have Jason Buttrill with us, who is my chief researcher and also in charge of national security and global wars and everything else that we have to look at. He has extensive background in military intelligence, and that's why, you know, you know, military intelligence is a joke because Jason was involved in it. But he was also, you were never the lead of my detail, right, of my protective detail. It was never the lead, but I was the manager on your detail.
Starting point is 01:30:52 I led many other details in the past. Yeah. So the reason why I'm still alive today is Jason was not in charge of the detail. That's good. That's good. Yeah. I will tell you that we have had many dealings with Secret Service, and without getting into any of the details, but I would be willing to testify on it. The Secret Service is, in my view, inept. It's nothing against the agents or anything. I think that the people who run it, they rely on money and technology, and, they just don't think. And we have seen things that could get people killed, quite honestly. We've experienced it with the Secret Service ourselves. And I've been warning about this for a very, very long time.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Now, Jason, you have actually planned events like this with the Secret Service. You have been with major politicians and done major events, not only with me, but with others and work side by side with the Secret Service. How could this have happened? I'm glad you had me on today, Glenn, because I saw a lot of speculation. I think it's important to understand how these things happen. How did we get to where we got to on Saturday? And I just want to briefly run down. I'm going to reveal a few tricks of the trade here. I think it's good for crazy people and potential attackers to know this as well, to know how difficult it is. It should be almost impossible to pull off what happened on Saturday. But,
Starting point is 01:32:29 as you know, Glenn, you've seen this work. An advanced team has always sent out. And this is copied from the Secret Service level all the way down to the governor's protection details, all the way to public officials or, you know, personalities like yourself. But an advanced team would go out, the Secret Service would go out weeks in advance. They'd go out and they would set up a multi-tiered security plan. So basically, like, let's say you see a president on a rope line and he's shaking hands and, you know, patting people on the back. That's political smoke and mirrors.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Those are not people that just randomly showed up. Those are friends, family, highly trusted people that have been vetted. That takes a little bit of the sexiness out, but that's the same way as when Donald Trump is on a stage. The people right in front of him are supposed to be there. They've been given access. They have a wristband or a lanyard. They're wanded. They're checked.
Starting point is 01:33:17 They're fully vetted, trusted people right in front of them. There's another tier beyond that. They're usually high-level donors. They're also very, very trusted, vetted. They've been searched. Then once you get beyond that, there's not a thousand secret service agents out there. So they have to delegate to law enforcement officers, local law enforcement officers, SWAT, just regular beat cops. They designated those areas.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Now, as all these planning's happening, they also identify further out threats. And they identify sectors of fire, positions of fire, potential sniper positions going all the way out to like a thousand yards. a 130-yard sniper position, absolutely, which is where this attacker was, would have been identified. And there would have been several designated, they would like say, this is alpha position, this is bravo position, whatever. They would go through them so that they can quickly address the situation. Now, they would also, in this advance plan, they would have local law enforcement guarding those areas to make sure no one would gain access to those areas. And they would be in contact with the Secret Service. Now, there's multiple different questions here that need to be asked, as you said, in full transparency.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Knowing this entire complex plan, A, did the Secret Service designate those sniper positions as they always do and as they're supposed to? Now, let's assume they did. The second question, did law enforcement adequately man those positions? It does not appear so on the videos that we've seen. I mean, we've got tailgators, basically, screaming at law enforcement. The only thing missing was like a couple of beer cans hanging off their helmets and they're chugging down beers. It's basically what they were like, hey, look over there. There's a guy climbing up there.
Starting point is 01:35:05 He's got a rifle. How did no one respond? That breaks the entire plan. There should have been a law enforcement officer or officers watching it. So there's also the fact that when you have a position like that, first of all, that position if it was left open. They keep saying, well, it wasn't part of the secure perimeter. It was 130 yards away.
Starting point is 01:35:30 You know, when you are on rooftops and sniper positions, you don't have to be on just the building right across the street. You can be watching all of the rooftops all the way around that have any kind of angle at that street. So not only should they have had somebody there or at least had a team around, and it looks like they had local police, and I don't know if local police failed.
Starting point is 01:35:57 But they also, when you have a position like that, and for instance there's woods in this same venue area, you always put up something that blocks the view. So you would go up on that roof and you would say, okay, there is the podium. So let's put up a big screen or a big sign or a big sign or something that blocks that view from that position. They didn't do that either.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah, to say as an excuse that it was outside the secured perimeter is absolutely ridiculous. I cannot believe someone would say that. I've been at events where Secret Service was there where there was a river hundreds of yards away, but they still had local law enforcement driving zodiacs up and down the river because they were worried about potential snipers coming from a boat. that was not inside the perimeter, but that was a potential firing position that they had identified. Now, that's the key right here. They would have identified all these positions, especially 130 yards with a clear line of sight to the president.
Starting point is 01:37:03 That would have been identified. There would have been a team of law enforcement officers or should have been protecting that area. Now, did they leave that? This is the second question. First question was, did Secret Service identifying them? I'm assuming they did. Second question, did law enforcement adequately man those positions? Third, and this is probably the scariest part of the question,
Starting point is 01:37:24 was there a law enforcement officer there? Was there help given to the shooter? Now, this is not a conspiracy theory, it's a question. It needs to be asked because we heard people saying there's the shooter. No one did anything about it. So look, this has to be done in full transparency. Can you imagine, Glenn, and the JFK assassination, all these weird things, things that happened, right? You have, let's just say back in during the JFK's session,
Starting point is 01:37:49 there were cell phones and camera phones. And they're like, again, with their beers and their helmets going, look at that. And they're filming the grassy knoll. And they're like, hey, officer, there's guys in the grassy knoll. They're carrying, they have fedoras on and they're like, they have sniper rifles. And they're about to shoot. Like, can you imagine if we had all of this evidence? What would the conspiracy theories be like then? This is what we have right now, we need to ask these questions. It's very, very rational to do so.
Starting point is 01:38:16 So we're about to have Dallas Alexander on. Do you know who he is? Oh, yeah. Jason? Very, very famous. Sniper. Okay. So he's a sniper and he says there's no way this happened
Starting point is 01:38:31 without help. I don't want to go there. I don't want to believe that. Because that takes us into an entirely different world. Yeah. Do you believe that
Starting point is 01:38:46 is a realistic possibility? Okay. I think it is a possibility. There are also the other random possibilities that it was just laxadaisical security by the local law. Law enforcement, in my opinion, I'm not jabbing law enforcement,
Starting point is 01:39:05 but I don't think they make great security guards because they're primarily reactionary. The Secret Service aspect of security like that is not reactionary. It is preventing the attack before it happens. But law enforcement as a security... It's why they... It's why the shooter, which I don't believe
Starting point is 01:39:21 was a Secret Service sniper, may have only shot after shots were fired. You know what I mean? We're in Secret Service. You're in Secret Service. You have permission. You see a guy with a gun pointed at the president, shoot him
Starting point is 01:39:39 before he shoots. Right. where law enforcement would need the permission to shoot unless he shot first, would they not? That's exactly right. Secret Service is a different mindset than other law enforcement. Basically, they don't manage a situation with a firearm. If you see a Secret Service with a firearm, it typically means someone's getting shot. Law enforcement is completely different. But I will not rule out the fact that it could just be very lax security.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Maybe they were big Trump fans. Maybe they're not fans at all. Maybe it was the exact opposite. And they weren't as vigilant as they could have been. someone was able to sneak over there. That is possible. But the most random things in assassinations happen. Who would have known that Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian activist, would have been posing as, or blending in with hotel staff, and would have been in the right place of the right time and caught RFK going through that private areas? You've been through
Starting point is 01:40:31 those areas yourself going through public events. It's chaotic. Who would have known? You know, things like that happen. Who would have thought that a crazed Hinkley would have, looking to gain the support of Jody Foster had no political ideology at all, just was a crazy guy looking to impress a movie star would have been able to get to Ronald Reagan. These things do happen. I want to ask you about the things that are being said now
Starting point is 01:41:00 about the shooter that we really don't know who he is. I don't believe that for a second. Okay. If so, what the hell is the CIA and NSA doing? with all of the eavesdropping on all of our communication. I don't believe that at all. And this ruse, this lie that, well, we just don't know. We don't know anything about him.
Starting point is 01:41:25 We don't. You know, it smells of the Nashville shooter. Now, it's still early. But if they don't come out with the full detail on this guy, they're going to lose all credibility. and then where are we? I want you to answer some of those questions when we come back. First, let me tell you about Car Shield.
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Starting point is 01:43:10 Not, not at all. I think that they're trying to make us believe that a 20-something has zero social media profile, zero internet profile. And I think I just read that they can't, they're saying they can't get into his phone for some way of reason. Yeah, I said I read that too. Yeah. Like, so the best hackers on the planet cannot get into his iPhone, which I do not believe at all. That's why, I mean, I saw, I saw videos of people trying to go immediately afterwards once all of his, everything was getting scrubbed, tried to even drive down his street and it was already blocked. So they're clearly blocking information. But it does seem like the internet sleuths of the world. right always dig up these accounts immediately after this.
Starting point is 01:43:50 You know, they always have the Facebook account. They always have the, I mean, that's why I went on social media to see if someone had found it. And it doesn't seem like anyone has found anything on this guy, which is incredibly odd for a 20-year-old. But is it possible he's just like not doing these things? I guess he was on Twitch or Discord or something. And that was basically about it. I guess it's possible, but do we actually believe that? I do not believe.
Starting point is 01:44:10 But wouldn't you be surprised like that just the internet sleuths didn't find it? if it actually existed? And usually that's the way it happens after this. I don't know. I have not met a single 20-year-old with zero internet football. Good point. I mean, that's just like nuts. No.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Right. I haven't either. But it doesn't mean that he was on social media. But you would know about his, you know, phone records. Look, the NSA is cataloging and keywords. You would know his entire friend network. if the guy even had a phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:48 I mean, the things that they can do now with the NSA and the things they do without warrants is shocking. Yeah. And to tell me that we don't know anything about him, except, well, he did give $15 to act blue, but he was a registered Republican. He was a, he was what? He was a registered Republican.
Starting point is 01:45:10 And he gave money to act blue. Well, then that's a sign of insanity. for one. And we do know that he tried to kill the Republican nominee. So it doesn't usually make you into a good Republican. Yeah. At this point, I do not care about the shooter at all. Like I said, Hinkley was not an ideological person, but he tried to kill Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 01:45:37 I do not care about what his political affiliation is. At this point, we have a major problem with both the, current president of the United States, down to the potential next president of the United States. The country is in danger, or leaders are in danger because the system appears to have broken down. I told you how these things go down. So when the details start to come out, was there a multi-tiered security system? Were they checking credentials at each different tier? Did they identify shooting positions and were they manned? Keep an eye on those questions. Because if something is off there, then we need to just completely have a full audit of how they're doing this thing and reevaluate.
Starting point is 01:46:20 And that's Secret Service head. What's her name? Can't remember her name. Yeah. She needs to resign immediately. Resign. The head of that detail, resign. The assistance under them, resign.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Get out of there. It's insane. At least even just for the look of it. You know, nobody ever seems to, they pull us out of Afghanistan and people are falling from the sky because they're in the wheel well trying to escape with the American planes. And nobody ever is held responsible for it. No accountability. Nobody. No accountability whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:47:00 You can't have a failure this big and not have somebody pay the price. But I'll bet you nobody does, which will only lead to more conspiracy. theory. Yes. Yes. Okay, coming up in just a second, we have Dallas Alexander, retired Canadian Special Forces sniper. What do you know about this guy, Jason? I just know he's got the record for the longest kill.
Starting point is 01:47:27 He's amazing. Longest confirmed kill shot in history from 3,450 meters. That's 2.1 miles. 2.1 miles. And he just does it. say this was such an easy shot. This is an easy.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Stu could make this shot. Honestly, if he's ever picked up a rifle, Stu could, I don't need to be the example of the confidence here. Look, if you have basic competence on a rifle, you could make this shot. But our next guest said, not alone.
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Starting point is 01:50:17 Dallas, welcome to the program. Hey, thanks for having me. You bet. So you have said some pretty controversial things, and I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth because you do have experience in this. you don't believe that this was just incompetence on the Secret Services side? Can you make the case?
Starting point is 01:50:49 Yeah, I think, like you said, I have some experience. I did that job for a long time, close protection and protecting VIPs and stuff up to, up to including our prime minister in Canada, was part of my job. and I think looking at the situation yesterday, or the day before, rather, any amount of tactical professional. I mean, I've seen the videos and there's, I don't know how many on the ground from, you know, police and secret service and to not have the most obvious position. I said this before. Children who play call of duty or go to paintball would know that that roof is the most important position. and that building is one of the most important buildings,
Starting point is 01:51:45 too secure, period. Just not picking that up is impossible. It seems impossible to me, but sometimes the impossible happens just through sheer incompetence. So what are you, in your world where you are, you're just war gaming this,
Starting point is 01:52:11 I think it's important for people to know there's no evidence of anything yet except questions. And what the question Dallas just brought up is 100% valid and needs to be answered to satisfactory. We have to know why they weren't watching that if they weren't. So what do you think would have happened? What I said on a video yesterday is that, and this isn't me pointing a finger at anyone in particular or a party or an agent. but someone within like the inside
Starting point is 01:52:53 quote unquote had to have helped with this like you can't walk through layers of security like that and then climb up a ladder to the most obvious shooting position and take a shot at you know the former president and maybe
Starting point is 01:53:08 future president like somewhere somewhere along that chain like you know I think there's talk of coming out that he had a van and there was explosives and so yeah like it Details are going to be crazy for a little while. But just from that to having the shots happen, there had to be someone that helped with that. Well, Dallas, they did say that this was not part of the secure location.
Starting point is 01:53:40 This was an adjacent property, so he didn't have to go through security to get the rifle there. but again, you would have been, if you're a secret service, you would have been at least, if you're not covering that building with bodies and somebody up on there, you would at least be covering it with eyesight, would you not? Especially with a covered approach like that, the building sloping away from, you know, the other sniper team or whatever they could see it. It wouldn't be covered. Like, I saw that just like it flashed on the screen at a restaurant,
Starting point is 01:54:19 and I was out. And immediately, I'm like, the two most obvious things, that building and then the water tower in the background. You don't need any special training for that. And yet there was a bunch of people there with special training and presumably leading up to them days before. Hey, Dallas. My name is Jason Bottsrell. I'm a Glenn's head writer and chief researcher. Can you explain from the sniper's perspective, especially in a situation like this in close protection details, upon visual acquisition of an enemy sniper, Does the counter-sniper have permission to immediately take action and fire, or do they have to go through a long process of verifying and then getting permission and all that?
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah, so that very much depends on the department, what the ROEs are. And I can't speak to the Secret Service when they're working with a police force. I have no idea. I know in the jobs that I have done, if there is a sniper position, and I'm at counter-sniper-sniper-over-watch, yeah, you're shooting. You're not waiting for someone to give you permission to shoot. Can I ask as a sniper-overwatch, do you also, are you focused on a specific pause, or are you kind of scanning the entire horizon?
Starting point is 01:55:34 So it sort of depends on the mission and how many other sniper teams there are. So if you have a bunch of teams, you'll have areas of responsibility. If you are tasked with watching one specific doorway or something, then that's where you stay. mission it's mission dependent right so dallas let me ask you there there was a five mile an hour wind this is you know it looks like by the grace of god uh donald trump turned his head uh a how easy of a shot was this for a 20 something uh and uh how close did we come to losing a president Yeah, that's something I've been thinking about, you know, for the last couple of days.
Starting point is 01:56:24 It's crazy because if it would have been just, you know, an inch or two the other way, I would, I just hate to think about what would have happened, you know, in this country and the whole world, it would have been very crazy. But the shot, I think so many about this yesterday, I haven't got confirmation of what the optics on the rifle were, which makes a big difference. It's not generally a very hard shot. I think it was 150 yards roughly. it doesn't take much shooting training whatsoever to be able to hit a head-sized target at 150 yards.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Wynn definitely would play a factor. I think the caliber was 5, 5, 5, 6.6, even that I'm not 100% sure. But it's not a difficult shot, but it's also not unmissable. You know, if he only has an Eotech site or something like that. And you don't have a lot of gun training. It's not something that you're for sure going to hit, which is maybe why he sent. I think it was five or eight rounds. Have you ever shot and had them dead in your sites and they moved at the very last minute like this?
Starting point is 01:57:34 How often does that happen? Well, from that range, I think, I think someone telling me yesterday that they heard it was an Eotech site. Dallas, thanks for your weighing in on this. I really hope that you're wrong. what are the questions that we should be demanding from our Secret Service? Oh, geez, the breakdown is crazy. Like, there's so many layers to this. And it would be, I don't even know who started the planning how long ago it was,
Starting point is 01:58:34 but to miss something that obvious, again, there's just, I don't think there's an explanation. I think it just need a deep dive investigation. I don't think competence, and I worked in the government for a long time, So I know incompetence, and there's a ton of it. I just don't think that that is what explains this problem away. I think something happened, and I think then it's investigation, because it's very, very shady. So you don't think that even incompetence would cover this because it's so obvious. Yeah, like I think you could take a 10-year-old out there and say, okay, we want to plan security, what should we look at?
Starting point is 01:59:18 And if it'll be a kid who played call of duties, he can tell you this, rooftop right here is the most dangerous point. It's overlooking where the president's going to be speaking or the foreign president's going to be speaking. It's going to be that and the water tower. But it couldn't be just one person if that was happening. It would have to involve a team, wouldn't it? Because somebody else on the team would go, Bill, what the hell are you talking about? We got to cover the roof. I'm saying in all these videos, whether it's Secret Service agents or local police or whatever it is, these are all tactical professionals. And even if they're the level of competence is low, it still doesn't matter. It's so, that's such an obvious
Starting point is 02:00:07 basic thing. Like you could take a, you know, a Navy cook or whatever and he's going to, oh yeah, tactically speaking, we've got to look at that thing. So out of all the people on the ground, all the people involved, it just doesn't make any sense that that one position and the most important position, arguably, was just not being watched. And then like a ladder, someone can put up a ladder and climb up. It doesn't make any sense. Well, apparently the ladder was attached to the building. So nobody had to bring a ladder or lead it up.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Let me ask you, the thing that bothers me is that all of the people on the ground were pointing and shouting, shooter, shooter, shooter. Is it possible that nobody heard that that it didn't get up, you know, to the guys? I mean, if you're a police officer or you're in Secret Service, wouldn't you radio that in immediately? Yeah, you would hope. I mean, this is the part of it that I think could be, you could point to incompetence. I've seen communication break down when things. get crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Radio's not work. I'm guessing all the agencies there, whoever local police and people are probably not using the same radio in gear and there's probably someone passing along the message. In chaotic times I've seen communication be
Starting point is 02:01:37 poorly executed to like a surprising level. So that part I could almost wrap my head around it being blamed on incompetence, but I just think everything leading up. up to there being a guy with a gun on a roof within essentially zeroing range of a rifle to the president. To me, that doesn't add up whatsoever. And they would have recorded everything
Starting point is 02:02:04 that was said, would they not? I don't know what the SOPs are actually, like for secret service and police. The missions I've gone on, unless it was going to like a tactical center or something, like on the ground, we were not recording our radio conversation. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. No, I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Thank you for pointing this out and giving us questions that really need to be answered. Dallas Alexander, appreciate it. God bless. Stay safe. Thanks for having me. Back in just a second. First, let me tell you about Mantis X. I mean, look, we're living in a dangerous world.
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Starting point is 02:05:17 Appreciate it. So you were there? What was the scene like? So I was about 10 feet from the barricade just to Trump's rear right. I was in the bleachers. Oh, my God. And it took me about two and a half hours to get through security. but once you got through security, it was just it was very unorganized. You just kind of wandered around
Starting point is 02:05:41 wherever you wanted to go. There were, like, nobody checked your tickets, nobody checked your ID. But once we got seated, once the president came out and started talking, whenever the first shots started, I personally, I only heard three, and then I heard multiple engagements of other gunfire.
Starting point is 02:06:03 And I'm guessing that was like the federal sharpshooters. But, I mean, it happens so fast. Everything was over within 15 seconds. And the Secret Service, when they, when they tackled the president, they knocked him over so hard that it knocked his shoes off. And I could hear, you know, Hawkeye is here. Hawkeye is here. And then on the extreme right, like there was a center group of bleachers
Starting point is 02:06:33 right behind the president. And then there were a set of bleachers to the left and a set of bleachers to the right. And it was on those far ends of each of those bleachers that those other victims got hit. And there was a hydraulic lifts. They look like fork lifts, but they're like 25 to 30 feet tall
Starting point is 02:06:53 and they were holding big speakers. And there was one on each side, one on the left, one on the right. And gunfire had hit the hydraulic line on the one on the left and it crashed straight down. Thank goodness, because if it would have fallen over, it would have crushed all those people. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:07:08 On the left side of the bleachers there. Jesse, hold on for one second, and we'll talk to you here off the air. Just an incredible, historic last couple of days. We'll continue to cover it. Tonight on Stu Does America, don't miss it.

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