The Glenn Beck Program - Ivy League Presidents Show How DEPRAVED They Truly Are | Guest: Alex Epstein | 12/6/23
Episode Date: December 6, 2023Alex Epstein, author of "Fossil Future," joins the discussion on the COP28 Summit and the insane arrogance of global climate change elites. The world cannot sustain itself on the types of green measur...es the Left is pushing. Glenn and Alex discuss which 2024 presidential candidate is the most likely to fight back against the Left's climate agenda. Glenn and Stu discuss Time declaring Taylor Swift Person of the Year as Glenn does a dramatic reading of her lyrics. Presidents of major Ivy League universities struggled to definitively state that anti-Semitism violates their codes of conduct. Glenn rants about adult Happy Meals from McDonald's returning as he and Stu critique the new marriage trend of "DINKs." The Biden administration reiterated its effort to remove fentanyl from trafficking into our country by going after Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. FBI Director Christopher Wray testified why Hunter Biden's laptop was widely ignored. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I can't take the insanity that is coming out from these global, quote, leaders that are telling us that we need to abolish all coal.
How many people have to die before we all recognize, it's a really bad idea?
We'll talk to him.
He's from the Center for Industrial Progress and founder and president,
and the author of a great book called Fossil Future.
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sing. No, it was really great. It was really great. They were singing. They were singing. They were
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oh, wait a minute,
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Alex Epstein is with us.
I wasn't even nominated.
It's an honor to be just...
It's not Susan Lucci for me.
They're just like, no.
No.
Center for Industrial Progress,
founder of president,
and author of Fossil Future.
He's been watching COP 28,
which, you know,
I didn't see one through 27,
so I didn't really get it,
but we wanted to have him come in and fill us in.
It's getting more and more insane, isn't it?
Yeah, I mean, what's been your kind of observation,
just looking at it from headlines?
I'm curious.
My observation is the arrogance is getting out of control.
They're the attitude of the little people must be tamed is sickening.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, you see these calls I was just reading this morning. They're considering the draft language. So just so people know. So COP stands for conference of the parties. And it's what's, it's part of what's called the United Nations framework concerning climate change. They have all these acronyms and everything like that. And then the science, allegedly scientific basis of this is called the IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And this is really the epicenter of the net zero movement. This is where they convene every year. And they always say the same thing, which is we did a decent job, restricting.
fossil fuels, but we really didn't do enough. So this year, we really have to finish the job.
And so they start arguing, and everyone starts out by saying we should get rid of fossil fuels.
That's the starting point. And then some remotely sane people kind of mitigate it,
but it still ends up with a totally evil, in my view, conclusion. But right now, they're literally
considering that something that says a just and orderly phase out of fossil fuels. That's one option.
The second one is...
What's a just and orderly? Is that like...
the like America should get rid of it first. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So it's, yeah, so that's,
that's the kind of, that's the one that's getting headlines right now because the leaders want
that. And it's really perverse because the only legitimacy to it is they're recognizing,
wait a second, it doesn't make sense for undeveloped countries and developing countries to have
net zero policies. They're already a net zero. That's their problem. Yeah, right. Right. That's,
That's the issue. But then there's this, and so some African nations are standing up and saying, hey, it's good for us to use fossil fuels. And some are saying it's good for the world to. But then there's this movement, which is often like climate justice or climate reparations where they say, no, no, Africa gets to use fossil fuels. And then the U.S. needs to stop using fossil fuels, you know, by 2030, which can you imagine a worse thing for the world for all the developed economies to be destroyed? That is not going to help anybody. So it's still just this
murderous movement and the key to it is fossil fuel benefit denial. They just ignore the benefits
of fossil fuels. They say, we don't like the side effects of fossil fuels on climate, but they ignore
the benefits. And it's just, it's exactly as if you had an antibiotics conference. And they just said,
let's get rid of antibiotics. We don't like the side effects. It's like, okay, but that's going to
kill billions of people. They're like, we're not going to talk about that. We're just against
antibiotic side effects. So tell me what a world looks like without fossil fuels. I mean, there's,
you can't describe it to people like the destruction of it because it would be literally like let's take
their timetable of 2050 which you know this is something this is not an obscure view this is literally
the most popular political idea in the world i mean that truly that we should be net zero by 2050
so that means rapidly eliminate almost all fossil fuel use we could talk about some of the oil
companies are pretending you can capture all the CO2 by 2050 that definitely is not true we could we could
talk about that so it means rapidly eliminate fossil fuels but fossil fuels but fossil
fuels are 80% of the world's energy. They're still growing because they're uniquely cost effective.
That's why China is building 300 new coal plants, despite all the hostility toward fossil fuels.
So if you get rid of the most cost effective source of energy in a world where most people
use very little energy, and energy is absolutely a requirement for people to survive, let alone
flourish, because it allows us to use machines versus using manual labor. That's just the apocalypse.
Like, just agriculture, we depend on diesel fuel for machinery, and we depend on natural gas.
for fertilizer. We cannot feed 8 billion people without that. And these monsters are discussing
eliminating fossil fuels full stop and they're just not thinking about this. I have to tell you,
I was watching yesterday, I happened to be standing waiting for something. I stood outside and
there was this big, what do you call those, you know, the diggers with the big claws.
Excavators? Yeah. And thank you. And Hall of fame. Reminder. He's in the Hall of Fame.
And I'm watching them like, this is the greatest boy job ever.
I mean, that, I mean, I still, you know, at almost 60, I'm like, I want that job.
But I just, I sat there and I watched it and I thought, oh, that's going to work with battery power.
That's absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, there will be nothing.
There would be nothing that is working.
And if you get rid of fossil fuels, how do you charge the batteries?
So it's, I think it's important.
And once you start asking these questions, I think you realize a broader point of mind,
which is that the green movement and the green energy movement, they're not an attempt to replace
fossil fuels with better energy.
It's there's a deep hostility toward energy as such, because their focus is, let's protect
the planet from human impact.
That's their basic thing.
Human impact is evil.
Let's protect the planet from it.
But if you hate human impact, you have to hate energy because energy is impact.
That's what we do with energy is we impact the planet.
That's like we make machines.
We spent thousands of years trying to come up with a way to create energy.
Thousands of years.
We were starving.
Right.
We were starving to death, freezing to death.
Every species wants impact except modern environmentalist humans.
Right.
How do you convince these dolts that this is suicide?
You know, I don't understand.
I mean, I do understand that people like John Kerry,
they'll be able to have access to everything they need.
But these people who are out in the streets picketing,
and I mean, are they really that stupid?
Have they not done the math on this at all?
Well, I think, so some people are truly anti-human,
but I don't think that's most people.
I think most people, they haven't even realized
that they've been taught to think of something in a totally biased way.
Again, ignoring all the benefits of fossil fuels.
fuels and only looking at the negative side effects. So one thing I do is I just point that out,
hey, with any technology, we need to be even-handed, look at both benefits and side effects.
And then you need to educate them because, for instance, people don't know that fossil fuels
are uniquely cost-effective. They're taught the fiction that fossil fuels can be rapidly replaced
by solar and wind. They're also taught that our climate. Those are people without solar or wind
power at their house. So one of the things, you know, I have this book, Fossil Future, but also a free
website, energy talking points.com. And people can search any topic there, and they can get very concise,
well-referenced points.
And that's helping people educate their friends and family.
So if you're having discussions during Christmas, just go to energy talking points.com
and you can search like solar and wind, and you can learn the truth about it.
It's not too hard to explain, but the mass media and educational system have just totally
made people ignorant.
So when they say no more fossil fuels, does that mean no more drilling for it either, right?
Well, it's actually worse than that because they make good.
Well, because so no more fossil fuels is essentially a...
We're going to stuff people down the oil wells to replace the dinosaurs.
Well, but what they do is they make this 2050 target for we have to be net zero,
which means we can't add any more CO2 to the atmosphere by 2050,
which I think would be the apocalypse if that's what you do.
But then what they do in the meantime is they say, it's not like that happens in 2050.
They say, well, we need to ban, for example, natural gas infrastructure.
So the marquee out of Massachusetts, the senator, like he led this push to say no new natural gas infrastructure.
He said we committed to no new natural gas infrastructure by end of 2022.
So we should do it.
I'm thinking, wait a second.
Have you witnessed Europe?
Like Europe is afraid of winter now like it's game of thrones.
Right.
There's a shortage of gas in the world.
Like Russia invades Ukraine.
Everyone is desperate for gas.
Bangladesh is having blackouts because they don't have enough gas.
And your solution is no new natural gas infrastructure.
And also, they think they don't understand oil and gas deplete.
So you constantly need to build new stuff.
Otherwise, you can't even stay at your current level, let alone the larger level that people need around the world.
Right.
So, but what I'm asking is there are other uses for oil.
Yeah.
You know, it's our synthetics for our clothing and everything else that comes from oil, the capsules of our drugs.
What is, are they saying stop all that too?
Well, some of them say, like, oh, we can do it for that.
But that whole industry is dependent on using it for energy.
It's not like it's going to be a totally different thing.
Because it's a byproduct.
Yeah.
So it's, I mean, but the point is the green people are not thinking about energy.
Energy is not their focus.
Protecting the planet from humans is their focus.
So every time you bring up these rational things, it's true.
But they're not thinking about that.
That's not what they care about.
And in a sense, I talk about this in Chapter 3 of Fossil Future.
in a sense, the benefits of fossil fuels are the problem,
because the benefits of fossil fuels allow the human race to expand
for us to have 8 billion people, for us to have a lot of impact.
And a lot of these guys say explicitly,
we should have 1 billion people or less.
Now, think about what that implies.
In terms of any kind of near-term action,
how do you get 8 billion people to 1 billion people?
They die.
Yeah, and you've got to make them die somehow.
It is, it's so anti-human.
you know, especially when
John Kerry said at COP 28, what a couple of days ago,
that he just, he just gets enraged
when he sees people
who should be responsible in leading other people
and they don't understand,
we can't build another coal fire plant,
we got to get rid of them.
I think to myself,
first of all, who are you to decide who lives and dies? Because that's, that's really what it is. And the
arrogance of your, of your position is just, it's crazy, crazy dangerous. I mean, I think the coal thing
is particularly scary because everyone is piling on coal. And just if people, I mentioned energy
talking points.com. If you just search electricity emergency, here's the state that we have right now. So
we have a grid where we're artificially increasing demand for reliable electricity through EVs,
right, and trying to ban gas stoves.
In California, where I live, this is the worst, but it's happening ever.
Then we're artificially decreasing the supply by shutting down coal plants, natural gas plants,
and nuclear plants.
So we have that already.
We already have an emergency where, look at what happens in Texas.
You guys have daily emergency alerts, right, throughout the summer.
Like, your power company doesn't provide power.
They tell you not to use power.
that's a bad sign for the power company.
And it was never like that in Texas.
And in this environment, coal plants are protecting us from the abyss.
This is a base load source of power.
It's reliable.
We've shut down way too many without a viable replacement.
And what does our administration do representing us on the international stage?
They say we're going to shut down the rest of them as quickly as possible.
If they do that, we lose 20% of our reliable capacity or more.
How long before the whole.
country is in rolling blackouts? I mean, it just depends because we have this EPA that's just, again,
they have no contemplation to the benefits of fossil fuels or reliable electricity. They're just
focused on let's eliminate any emission we can. So it's hard to say, but when you see the emergency
alerts, that means you have shortages. And it also means you have industrial blackouts. It means
that industrial customers are having their power cut off. That happens before, like a blackout is an
accident. But the shortages are what you want to watch for, because that means that you don't have enough
power. So we have shortages and all of these plans to decrease the supply. I think when I talk to a lot of
politicians, this is one of the things I tell them, like, this is the existential thing you need to watch
out for. And because the coal industry is so small and has a small lobby, you're not getting enough
information about it. The oil and gas people are not on, I mean, they do a lot of good stuff. They're
not on top of this enough. And there's some hostility toward coal sometimes, but like these coal plants,
you do not want to shut these things down. We do not have the natural gas capacity that we're building,
the natural gas infrastructure isn't built for electricity yet. We need a lot more gas pipelines.
We need to do a lot more stuff in gas, but shutting down coal right now is a terrible, terrible idea.
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So have you done any work on the...
We're talking to Alex Epstein.
He is the author of Fossil Future.
he's with the Center for Industrial Progress.
He's, I think, the leading voice against climate change.
Climate catastrophe.
Yeah.
I can't stop the change.
Yeah, I know.
So have you done much on the Inflation Reduction Act and how we are paying people to dismantle
these coal plants?
Oh, yeah.
So again, I keep plugging Energy Talking Points.com.
If you search IRA or Inflation Reduction Act, I think we have the most comprehensive analysis.
So we could talk a lot about it.
I mean, I called it at the time the Mansion Green New Deal.
Yeah.
Because it was, you know, Mansion had stood up against various iterations of this.
And I think substantively, this was the same basic idea as the Green New Deal in terms of we're going to restrict fossil fuels.
And then we're going to subsidize and, in various ways, prop up this green energy stuff.
And it's just been, it's been a total disaster.
I mean, if you look at the, you know, the projected costs went from like a couple hundred billion dollars.
which is also terrible to like a trillion dollars per decade.
One thing people don't know is it has no end date.
The subsidies have no end date because they say it's either 2032 or when we reduce our emissions
by 75%, whichever comes last.
Well, even according to the Biden administration, we're not going to have that by 2050.
So it just means this endless parade of subsidies.
And what this is doing is it's in different ways forcing more and more unreliable solar and wind
on the grid and trying to get rid of coal at a time when we,
when we need reliable electricity more than ever.
How is the, where's the disconnect in people's heads between,
I'm buying an electric car, I want an electric car,
and the idea that we're making less energy,
and we don't even have the grid,
the way our grid is now,
it is not capable of carrying that much electricity.
I mean, I think we need to,
I think it's pretty easy.
to make. It's just there's often this stuff where people don't have something pointed out. And so
they're just not thinking about it because they're just taught not to think about it. But if you
pointed out, it's pretty simple. That's why I say, hey, look, we're increasing the demand for
reliable electricity and we're decreasing the supply. Isn't that up? And we're talking about drastically
decreasing the supply more. Isn't that a problem? Most people will say, yes. I mean, this came up in
the Newsome, I don't know if you saw the Newsom Desantis debate. I thought Desantis had a really good
point, which is a point that I make a lot, particularly being a Californian, which is this point.
about, well, Governor Newsom announced, hey, no more internal combustion engine, right? And then six
days later, you know, you have to use EVs. And six days later, California told us, don't charge
your EVs. We don't have enough power. That's at like 10% penetration, right? What is it like at 60% and
70%? And we keep shutting down our reliable plants. All right, more in just a second. I want to
talk to you about the candidates. Which candidate do you think is best to stop all of this? We'll do that
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We're with Alex Epstein.
He is sitting here in the studio and he has the guts to try to say that climate-related emergency climate emergency deaths are down.
Wow. How dare he?
I mean, we all know. We listen to the politicians and all of the people at COP 28.
We all know that climate deaths are through the roof now.
Well, it's interesting because usually they just avoid that subject.
If you look at the rhetoric, what they'll do usually, so just use anecdotes, right?
So they'll say like, 50 people died in Pakistan.
This is unprecedented.
And you're like, no, wait, actually, many, many more people used to die in Pakistan.
And in general, deaths used to be 50 times what they are today.
Interestingly, Hillary Clinton had the goal this year to say, we just started studying climate-related deaths.
And we're finding that they're going up.
I'm like, wait, we have records going back a long time.
Right.
We have records of, you know, millions of people dying in a given year, like 100 years
go from drought. And specifically she said, and we know the biggest cause of climate death is heat
death. And this is news to me and to everyone who knows anything, because on every continent,
Russia. Yeah. On every continent, even the African continent, cold-related deaths exceed heat-related
deaths. So overall, it's something like an eight-to-one ratio. So for most people, the planet
is too cold. Also, by the way, warming occurs more in colder places than in warm places,
so it tends to even save more lives.
So but she's just, I'm glad she's bringing this up
because it's so easily refuted,
but they're finally bringing up the issue of death,
which they've evaded for years
because the numbers don't support them.
I believe it's in your book, Alex,
where they've never put this,
the graph that you have,
and you've shown 98% drop in climate-related deaths,
they've never put that in an IPCC report.
No.
Right?
And like that to me is so revealing.
Fundamentally, what are we talking about here?
With all these things put together, the main thing we're trying to prevent are climate-related deaths.
So that would be the number one graph to show in a report about the climate.
And there are thousands of pages of reports.
So they don't even talk about the rate of climate death, let alone this graphic, which is taken from mainstream data, because they don't want to do it.
They also mentioned zero times any climate-related benefits of fossil fuels, which is odd because one of the main things we do with fossil fuels is protect ourselves from climate.
Like think about irrigation powered by fossil fuels.
Air conditioning.
Air conditioning.
Heating.
Like, I mean, so many ways in which you use fossil fuels take the naturally dangerous climate
and make us unnaturally safe.
And if you're interested in the future of climate danger, you can't ignore the benefits
of fossil fuels because your level of mastery over climate determines what's dangerous.
Correct.
Right.
It's like heat and cold.
Like in the United States, we have every climate imaginable and we can live to 80 in every state
easily because we're masters of climate.
So that's what the whole world should do.
If you care about climate livability and avoiding climate danger, just have enough energy
so you can deal with any climate.
It's very simple.
You can live comfortably, I mean, in Minnesota, and you can live comfortably in Arizona.
You, I mean, you had to chop a lot of wood to live in Minnesota, and you couldn't live
in Arizona. You just couldn't have done it. Nobody lived there until air conditioning. It was very
few that would actually move down there. Look at what cities are thriving right now. And that's all because
of air conditioning. And yesterday I saw a story from COP 28 where they're saying, got to get rid of
air conditioning too. I find that's the most revealing. Like their whole thesis is, we're worried about
the earth is getting too warm. So let's ban air conditioning. That's that.
That's the philosophy. And you see it shows the anti-humanism because what it shows is even by their own view of the problem, they're against any solution that protects us. They're just against anything. And even if you ask like they're against the idea of capturing CO2 from fossil fuels usually, which I don't think you can do that efficiently on a global scale, but it's revealing. And they're also against what they call geoengineering, which is at some point cooling the earth. Like I believe if we actually faced a warming crisis, which we don't, but you should explore. Are there any macro-executive?
things you can do. You know, volcanoes cool the earth, but they're like, no, that's, that's the thing.
They want us to always withdraw our impact. They don't want us to cause any problem and then
solve the problem with more impact in technology. They just want us to withdraw impact and
technology. So is the air conditioning thing targeted towards really the United States more than
anybody else? Because you go over to Europe. You know, they don't use ice cubes. And generally speaking,
they don't have, you know, central air. We are big on air conditioning. Well, you can think of it as
it's targeting us, or you could think of it as it's targeting people improving their lives. Both
ways it's really bad because you want air conditioning. Because what they do is their whole focus is,
let's eliminate human impact and particularly the impact, particularly eliminate CO2. And so what they
do is they just categorize human activities, not by how good they are for human life. Who cares about
that, right? We're focused on the climate.
climate. They categorize them by how much impact do they have. And they say, hey, no, air conditioning,
use a lot of energy. So if we want to reach our goal, we got to stop doing air conditioning.
When did they stop teaching trees breathe in as we breathe out? When I was a kid, I mean,
we knew it's this great circle. Trees breathe in what we exhale and create what we inhale.
Well, yeah. So what that means is more CO2 generally means more plant growth. Correct. We
Still, so some of the CO2 gets absorbed by trees and some gets absorbed by the oceans and some
we put still have more in the atmosphere than we used to.
But I look at all this from a humanistic perspective.
Just, hey, is the world today with more CO2 in the atmosphere, more plant life and more,
most importantly, more energy?
Is that a better world than the energy-starved world of 100 or 200 years ago?
And it's better in every respect, including climate.
I yet have, I have yet to meet one green activist who would prefer to live in the supposedly perfect
climate of 1850.
Right. Right.
Because they would freeze to death or burn or heat to death because they didn't have any mastery over it.
Let's talk about the candidates.
Tonight is the Republican debate.
We have four people, unfortunately, on stage and one that is not going to be there, Donald Trump.
When you look at, I'm sure you've talked to most, if not all of the candidates, or at least their surrogates.
who is the best who has the best understanding of this and who do you think is the most serious about stopping
this kind of nonsense so for once i'm a little hesitant to say stuff because i i advise kind of
a lot of different offices and campaigns and that kind of thing um so i'm trying to get everyone
to use what i'm advocating um i think but i'll talk about what people have said publicly so i think
all of them. Christy is actually the one I know least in terms of his views, but he seems decent on it.
The ones who've been the most of the people tonight, the ones who've been most outspoken and using
the kind of line, I think. So Haley, I don't disagree with much of what she said, but I just haven't
heard her say much about it. Desantis and Vivek, so Vivek has definitely been the most
outspoken about this issue of climate death. He's really popularized this statistic of 98% decline,
And he has a really good understanding of him.
I mean, he's publicly, this is not me giving away anything.
He's publicly said like he's red fossil future.
He's been very influenced by it.
He's an intellectual guy.
I think he really gets it.
And it's been exciting to see him on networks that would never have me like NBC making these points.
That's been a great thing.
He's also, I think, is in favor of energy freedom, you know, dramatically reducing the administrative state.
DeSantis has been really good as well in his opening energy speech in Midland.
like he specifically mentioned, 98% decline in climate disaster deaths.
You know, in his debate with Newsom, he talked about the evil of government dictated green energy,
which is a term that I use and I encourage others to use.
He's for energy freedom.
So I think those two are both doing well.
I think in general, the Republicans, and I take some credit for this, have done, are better on energy than they used to be.
If you look at like the 2012 debates, 2016 debates even, the platforms have gotten way, way better.
I mean, almost, it's almost hard to criticize any of them vehemently, whereas that was very easy.
What years ago?
When did you become an unwashed heathen to the mainstream media?
What is that man?
Well, you were, I mean, you were a big deal to the left because you believe in, you know, climate change, et cetera, et cetera.
But you don't believe in the solutions.
And if I remember right, you were a, you were beloved, you know.
No, no, no, no.
You remember wrong.
I was never overlooked.
Not by the mainstream media.
I mean,
I grew up in sort of like a left-wing kind of environment.
As a kid, I grew up in Chevy Chase, Maryland,
but I wasn't in the media back then.
I don't know.
So, I mean, now I'm definitely at the peak of my prominence,
and it still has, look, I get a lot of exposure,
but I've never been interviewed by CNN.
I've never been interviewed by MSNBC.
And I am the most willing guy in the world to debate anyone.
So it's certainly not my issue. I haven't been on NPR. I guess I've been on the BBC before. But like, hey, if anyone is watching from there, I'm more than happy to be on there. But in the meantime, at least other people, it's great when presidential candidates and politicians are making these points because they can't, those networks can't avoid them. So that was exciting about seeing Vivek is like, oh, he's making these points and they have to have him on.
Is this turning with the next generation?
Are you seeing real growth of, I don't know, intelligence?
It's hard to make macro statements.
I mean, I'm seeing in my world the significant proliferation of young people who are saying this, so in terms of the influencer side.
And a lot of my focus is on, this is why I have energy talking points.com and basically giving everyone the building blocks.
I mean, Stu is a great example.
Like, Stu's become really articulate on these things and really not.
knowledgeable. That's quite an accomplishment by you to make me articulate on anything.
I didn't say that, but I'd like to emphasize it. So it's like I really like seeing other people
learn the way of thinking, learn the facts, put them together. And then we're seeing young people. I was just
in Africa a couple months ago and there's a young Kenyan guy I've come to befriend and kind
of mentor called Jasper Machogu. He has a really good Twitter if you check him out on Twitter.
By the way, I don't agree with all of his views on foreign policies. So let's just, but he's
really, really good on energy. We did a video that I'll post soon. But anyway, he's become a really
successful activist for African energy freedom. And he really gets it. And he can frame the stuff
a lot the way that I do. And he knows the facts. And so I just want to, I want, the other thing is
people are starting to see you can actually make a career out of it. When I got into this,
believe me, I had no idea that being pro fossil fuels, there was ever any notoriety in it.
Even though in retrospect, it makes sense. Like, oh, you could have planned it. I didn't plan it at all.
I just happened to be it.
And then people were interested.
But now I'm glad if people follow and they say, you know what?
You can actually get some positive attention.
You can actually get speaking engagements.
You can actually sell books.
That's great.
So I want to be obsolete.
It's part of why I've showed you guys in the background.
Like I'm making an AI that will bring out in a few weeks.
Like I want to be obsoleted by the other people and by my own AI.
That's great.
It's a good goal.
It's hard, unfortunately.
Yeah.
No, it is.
But, you know, there's lots of people that would like you.
obsolete on the other side.
I'm not going that way. You're not going
that way. Yeah, I know. Thank you so much
for being with us again.
Fossil Fossil Future is the name of the book.
It's Alex Epstein,
and it's always good to have you on. Thank you so much.
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Who could it be?
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Stu, who would you choose?
Who would you choose?
Think of the entire year, all of the things that have happened.
who who would be the person of the year wow well they usually name some horrible dictator um you know what
the hamas freedom fighter yes person of the year yes yes yes no no not no not the israeli story
a soldier i think that the hamas would have had a better chance of winning it oh yeah that's not
who it was come on come on come on person of the year
I mean
Zelensky? Let me
give you, no he's already
Putin? How about
Zelensky and Putin arm and arm
on the cover?
Let me give you a hint
with yet another
dramatic reading
Our secret
moments in your crowded room
They got no idea about
Me and you
There's an indentation in the shape of you
Made your mark on
me a golden tattoo.
You know yet?
No.
All this silence and patience pining in anticipation, my hands are shaking from holding back
from you.
Ah, ha.
All of the silence and patience pining and desperately waiting, my hands are shaking
from all of this.
Ah, ha, ah, ah.
Sounds like a personal issue.
Say my name and everything just stops.
I don't like you like a best.
friend only bought this dress so you could take it off.
Take it off.
I appreciate you not reading any more of this, whatever it is.
Yes.
Come on, come on, who is it?
Who is it?
It sounds wonderful and I'm really interested to know.
It's the bicycle guy that just, I'm sorry, the bicycle woman that just won.
The bicycle woman.
Yeah, you know, the one that just won the bicycle race, you know.
The guy who, oh.
That just is the transgender guy who won the bicycle?
Yeah, the women's bicycle race.
I don't know who that person's name is.
I only bought this dress so you could take it off.
You don't think that Time Magazine would do the transgender movement.
The male athletes, trans women in sports is the person of the year?
No.
Did they write a very mediocre song?
It is of course.
Taylor Swift.
Taye.
Tatee.
Congratulations.
Yeah, person of the year.
No, I don't think that's shallow.
I mean, she's a big entertainer.
She is a big entertainer.
She is a big entertainer.
Lots of impact on my football watching every weekend.
Get to see.
I just wanted to bring it up because I know how much she means to you.
She does.
I get to hear the pitch of, hey, did you know a player on your favorite team is related
to the person who's dating this woman that you don't care about?
Let me talk about it for 48 straight minutes.
I love that in every NFL broadcast.
But no, Taylor Swift, I mean, look, she had a heck of a year.
Oh, she did.
It really wasn't amazing.
She did.
If you're going to give it to an entertainer, she's the odd show to do.
Yes.
I mean, there were other impact.
Well, her are Jimmy Fallon.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, he's, ooh, what a year he has.
Trevor Noah
Would you put it?
Trevor Noah, another one
There's another one.
No, but I mean like
if you're going to give it to an entertainer,
I did she feel like there was a lot going on this year though.
Oh, what?
What was happening?
There was multiple wars.
Huh.
That broke out.
Really?
Yeah, you kind of had that.
You had a lot of stuff going on that was of large impact,
but maybe.
The whistleblowers?
They would have been going,
which ones?
Well,
The Hunter Biden was,
any of the anti-
The ones that pointed out that we were just targeting Catholics for no reason and calling them terrorists.
Which ones would, which whistleblowers would you like?
None of them, by the way, that you're going to mention would go to this unless it's a whistleblower unlike Donald Trump.
Then you have a chance.
Right. Right. Sure.
But how about the Ivy League presidents of Harvard, MIT?
I mean, they're women.
And they were fantastic yesterday.
fantastic on
anti-Semitism.
They've been very strong on that.
Yeah, they have been.
Yeah, they're very,
strong to.
They're very anti-Semitic.
I mean, they're very good on that.
I mean, you could put Rashida Taleb.
She's been the queen of the anti-Semites.
Well, I think it's pretty hard to,
let me play a little bit of the testimony on Capitol Hill
from the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and Penn.
They were.
asked about, you know, the calls for genocide of all the Jews on their campus. Listen to this.
At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding
bullying and harassment? Yes or no? You've targeted at individuals not making public statements.
Yes or no? Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus. But you've heard chance for
intifada. I've heard chance, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context,
we're calling for the elimination of the Jewish people. Okay. Stop, stop, stop. I just have to,
just have to say, I have heard chance on campus that could in the right context be anti-Semitic
calling for the genocide of the Jewish people. Sometimes when you call for the genocide of Jewish people,
you're not being anti-Semitic at all.
Right.
Right.
Like you're looking for more living space.
Yes.
You know, living space.
That was a big...
There's another catchphrase you might remember from history.
A little more living space is all we need.
I mean, not for them.
For us.
We need to spread out, spread our wings a little bit.
Not enough room for the German people.
A little more living space.
Okay.
So she's heard chance that could...
In theory.
We're not going to say that they were.
They could be anti-Semitic.
And the real.
right context.
You know, I don't know what context it would be anti-Semitic to say we should have a genocide
of all the Jews.
There's probably one though.
Yeah, there's somewhere out there.
Somewhere out there.
Somewhere out there.
Okay.
Let's continue.
Incredible.
So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules.
That would be investigated as harassment if pervasive and severe.
Ms.
McGill.
Stop.
Stop, stop.
If pervasive.
and severe.
Now, I think anybody standing at a rally chanting death or genocide to all the Jews,
I don't know.
I think that's pretty severe.
I would say it is pretty severe.
It seems like if it doesn't violate your code of conduct, perhaps your code of conduct needs to be adjusted.
Right.
Did you go to Harvard, though?
I did not.
I didn't either.
And so, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what Yale's policy is.
I don't either.
I don't either.
And I don't understand, you know, the intellect of Harvard.
Let's go to MIT where they're even smarter.
Ms. McGill at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct?
Yes or no?
If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.
Okay, stop.
Okay, stop.
So, interesting.
Interesting.
So if they're chanting death to all the Jews.
That's not.
And then, but they round them all up.
But then they actually kill Jews at that point.
Then it's harassment.
Once they've wiped out all the Jews, we're going to act.
Right.
Okay.
Hey, they can build showers.
They can build gas changes.
Obviously, yes.
But the minute they start to use them.
Well, and technically the speech is calling for genocide, so they probably have to wipe them all
out before we act.
But at some, that's when our code of conduct will kick in.
You know, when there's no Jews left, we'll be like, you know what?
Hey, guys, stop.
And I bet they will at that point.
Yeah, okay, here we go.
Well, there won't be any left.
Right.
That's why.
Specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment?
If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
So the answer is yes.
It is a context-dependent decision.
Context.
It's a context-dependent decision.
and that's your testimony today.
Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
That is not bullying or harassment.
This is the easiest question to answer yes, Ms. McGill.
So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
If it is, if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment, yes.
Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?
The speech is not harassment.
this is unacceptable, Ms. McGill.
I'm going to give you one more opportunity
for the world to see your answer.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews
violate Penn's code of conduct
when it comes to bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
It can be harassment.
The answer is yes.
And Dr. Gay, at Harvard,
does calling for the genocide of Jews
violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
It can be depending on the context.
What's the context?
Targeted as an individual.
Targeted at an individual.
It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?
I will ask you one more time.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
yes or no.
Anti-Semitic rhetoric.
And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying.
I can't believe this.
I can't believe this.
If you have a microaggression, which is not saying, we should kill all of you, okay?
A microaggression, they need a safe space.
Everybody needs to go cry and be protected.
If you use the wrong pronouns, they put these things into these categories.
And calling for the genocide of Jews, well, you know what, if it's targeted towards an individual.
Well, technically, if you're calling for the genocide of the whole race, it's not targeted at an individual.
It's all individuals, every single one of them.
So I guess maybe that's they're out.
Also, I will say, you know, that's one of the best grilling.
I mean, that isn't, she did a really good job with that.
Really good job.
Now, I will say, it should have been easy for them to say.
You can look at the, what you don't maybe get on radio is the faces of these women as they are trying to answer these questions.
They're so smug and so like, oh, this, she's, I see what you're trying to do here and I'm not going to fall for it.
Well, it depends on the context.
Hang on, what are you trying to do there?
Yeah.
You're trying to trap them to make them.
to make them say the Palestinian protester kids are bad.
And it's like, well, yeah, when they're calling the genocide of the Jews, yeah, they are.
You should be able to say that with real confidence.
Yes, should be really easy.
Even more confidence than the pronoun mistake that you're going to throw 10 kids out of your school for next week.
Here's a Jewish student that is suing UPenn describing anti-Semitism.
On October 7th, Israel was attacked.
Since October 7th, American Jews have been.
under attack. My name is Ayali Akobi, and I am a proud American studying at the University
of Pennsylvania. I love Penn. I've wanted to attend this university since before I can remember.
I'm here because the Penn I attend today is unrecognizable from the Penn I once used to know.
Penn, once renowned for groundbreaking discoveries like the MRNA vaccine, is now a chilling
landscape of hatred and hostility. Our university revered for its pursuit of knowledge,
has devolved into an arena where Jewish students tiptoe through their days, uncertain and unsafe.
Not only are tensions palpable, but there have also been materialized actions taken to intimidate and harm students.
A bomb threat against halal.
A swastika spray painted.
The Hillel and Chabad house is vandalized.
A professor posting the armed wing of Hamas's logo on Facebook.
A Jewish student accosted, Jews are Nazis, etched adjacent to Penn's Fraternity House.
Why doesn't the university hold the perpetrators of such acts accountable?
Is the university fearful that they may offend those who wish to intimidate and harass their fellow students?
Penn's ambivalence fuels a crisis that has shattered my academic sanctuary.
Policies meant to safeguard us have become hollow promises.
And let us be clear, if they fail Jewish students today, tomorrow they will fail the rest of us.
It was powerful.
Yesterday was a very powerful day and not just for outing of anti-Semites, but also those who were called transphobic.
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So there was another house here.
hearing and Riley Gaines was there and Summer Lee the representative said that we are just going to hear nothing but transphobic language.
We're going to have to sit here and listen to these transphobes. And Riley Gaines had a problem with that. Listen.
I'm going to me that although the title of this hearing implies a much needed discussion, we're likely going to be forced to listen to.
transphobic bigotry. Unsafe, unfair, and discriminatory practices towards women must stop.
Inclusion cannot be prioritized over safety and fairness. And Ranking Member Lee, if my testimony
makes me transphobic, then I believe your opening monologue makes you a misogynist. Thank you.
I have as the saying goes. Madam Chair, excuse me, I moved to have the gentlewoman's words taken
down. Madam Chair, she's engaging in personalities. What is that mean? Can I just ask how it's fair to be called
transphobic. There's a thing.
I would say men
disguising themselves as women are engaging
in personalities.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I mean, this is
to withdraw the point of order.
This is insane. This is insane
what's going on. And finally,
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It is Lisa
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is in that Christmas film, that documentary
about the bombing.
in Los Angeles.
But here's Lisa McLean in response.
Listen to this.
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I sat here and listened to every label imaginable.
I am here to protect women, girls.
My God, why do I have to apologize for that?
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Let me be explicitly clear on that.
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I will never stop protecting women.
That is my job as a mother.
And it is the right thing to do.
I love her.
I love her.
Then she pushed a computer on a chair down the elevator shaft.
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I'm sorry.
I'm very distracted right now.
Because Buddy Dale brought in some chocolates.
And I can't open them.
I can't.
They're in this.
I mean, do you have to be old money to know how to open these things?
Is that what it is?
Because they're fancy chocolates.
They've got the gold wrapper on them.
So, yes.
Oh, she can't.
There, now it's open.
Wow.
This is, uh, I mean, there's only so much time to open a box of candy.
If they make it impossible to open, you just pound it open.
There are shards of sharp plastic all over the studio now.
Wait.
But as you were ripping that off, you saw clear.
a sticker type of thing that was wrapped around the outside.
That was obviously how you open that package.
You don't slam it against the desk like an insane person.
I'm not.
I wasn't insane.
That is a regular way that when you wrap chocolate like you like it's a like an old CD,
that's how you open it.
Would you like some chocolate?
I'm okay.
I'm afraid I'd be eating plastic shards.
If I were to ingest any of this.
Gosh.
Now, how many times have you done that?
That seemed like it was not the first time.
You had smashed a package of chocolates against the table to open it.
I mean, you really wanted some chocolate there.
That was real desire.
No, less about the chocolate, more about the packaging.
You just, you don't get to the point where you're opening something.
And it's been so sealed that there's no way any human could ever.
open it? Oh, I've definitely got to that point before. I can't, I can't take that. Not on national
radio. It's never happened to me on national radio before. Oh, well, I'm not ashamed of who I am.
Maybe you should be. You know, that's a, I feel like that's a lesson we've learned lately. A lot of
me are like, I just need to tell the world who I am. Maybe you shouldn't. Me. You know, Glenn,
maybe the way you just acted should be closeted. You know, I'm saying, you're sitting over there with a bottle of
whiskey and you're telling me to behave myself.
You see what I just did to the chocolates?
You know how much I want that whiskey right now?
I will say, because I've got some Fox and Odin whiskey right here.
And it's such a beautiful bottle.
I didn't want to open it.
That's not that beautiful.
Let's open it.
Glenn, I mean, Glenn is looking at me in a way that is disturbing.
I feel like a protective parent and you're like Jared from Subway.
Like that's what I feel like this bottle?
What is it?
It's like 12 year old whiskey.
so.
It's a very wrong conversation.
I will say, I like taunting you over alcohol because I think it's really funny.
And that means me, I'm a good friend.
I just want to smell it.
I love the smell of good whiskey.
That's what's making me freak out.
You really want, I'm putting this away.
No, no, just leave it up here.
I'm not going to leave it up here for you.
I am going to smash that thing open.
Look, at the very end of your career, do I want this to end in some sort of
alcoholic binge that gets us all sorts of ratings.
Of course.
I don't have to drink it.
I just want to smell it.
Oh.
And then it's just just one sip.
It's just touching my lips.
That's not drinking.
This is what happens.
Hang on just a second.
Hang on just saying.
You know, you okayed an whiskey, knowing that whiskey is my, you locate a whiskey
sponsorship on this program.
It's good whiskey.
And now, and come on, let's be serious.
Why did you take that whiskey sponsor?
Sponsorship.
I mean, yes, it's good.
whiskey, but it's fox and
Ode. It's great. No, no, no.
And I did know it would torture
you. Yes, but that's part of it. It's a small
part of it. Right. So now
it's sitting here, and now
you're like, oh my gosh, I can't torture you.
I mean, I just, I... Do you see what I did to the box of candy?
Yes, I did. Open that bottle
of whiskey right now. Those are
glass shards if you break the bottle
of whiskey glad. I'm very nervous. Again, I don't want to
drink it. I just want to smell it. I love
the smell of whiskey. You also love
the taste of whiskey and that became a major
problem for your life. Not really. That wasn't
the problem. It was I love the effects
of whiskey.
Yeah. Would you remember?
Well,
yes.
That's the problem.
It's amazing.
Okay, but let me ask you something.
Which is a bigger problem?
Alcoholism.
Alcoholism.
Or being somebody that
excited about this story and you're an adult.
McDonald's is bringing its adult happy meals back into circulation,
even containing six individual toy options.
The chief of marketing and customer experience officer references the success of last
year's cactus plant flea market box and notes that it was something that would be
revisited because fans told us they wanted to celebrate that quintessential childhood experience
again.
So they're giving you the little happy meal where the golden arches are the handle
with the little toy in it that none of us had for more than five minutes because it was
crap. And which adult, I want to talk to the adults that are like, you know what? I am really
happy. I can relive that experience and see what McDonald's has left for me as a toy, as an adult
who gets a toy. I don't know. I think I'd rather be an alcoholic. It's an interesting point.
Now, the worst part about the happy meal for adults is they have full-sized meals for adults that you could just have that are bigger and more of the stuff that you like, unless you're going for some weird, you know, I'm going back into a cocoon of childhood.
And, you know, with what Disney has done, when I heard adult toys in a happy meal box, I...
You can picture some psychopath out in the McDonald's parking lots.
smashing open a plastic box with their adult toy inside. Daddy, why is your box vibrating?
Shut up.
I'm going to smash it on the bumper in the parking lot.
Do you think, though, this is a thing that has made a real comeback?
I feel like there was a time, maybe I'm just misremembering this, but I feel like there was a time
where it would be embarrassing to, like, want to jump back into all of the,
childhood behaviors of your past.
Yes, I think our grandparents would have slapped us across the face.
Right. That's kind of how I picture it.
Yeah.
That's kind of how I would picture it, right?
Yeah, sure.
But like it seems like now, I mean, I don't know, is this offensive to some?
I don't know, maybe.
But like the real, the real passion for Disney World and Disneyland from adults is
interesting to me.
Like, I'm not, it's a great place.
I'm not, I get it.
And I know, right now.
First of all, it's.
a spawn of Satan now, so you can't go anymore.
I've noticed that, yes.
All right.
But like, I do know a lot of people, even conservatives,
who still go back there, like, as adults, you know, a lot.
Like, multiple times a year.
Because that brings back innocence.
It brings back.
Happy Meal brings back innocence.
It brings back crap that you had.
Don't besmirge McDonald's.
Ronald has done a lot for this country.
Has he?
How big of a house?
does that fat clown need.
He's always raising money.
Hey, finish my house.
Finish my house.
Enough.
Enough.
Okay?
You gave that box that happy meal
because it kept your kids quiet
so you didn't drink
during the day.
That's why you...
I don't know that your experience
is exactly the same
as everyone else's experience.
Mr. please open that whiskey bottle
so I can smell it.
I'm just saying.
But I
Do you find that
Is it something where the world has become
So dark that they're looking for
I know
No no
Nobody's growing up
When I was 18 years old
Maybe 17
I remember coming back home from school
And
And I had a bowl of cereal
And I'm sitting on my couch
And I'm just watching TV
And there's nothing on
It's like you know
So popper time of the day
Sure
There's nothing on
on. So I keep flipping around. And the best thing that was on, believe it or not, was Mr. Rogers.
Okay. Now, my dad happened to come home early that day. And I'll never forget, he came up the stairs.
You know, we had those split levels houses. And he came up the stairs. And he came around.
He's like, hey, and he saw me eating cereal on the couch watching TV, which he was.
disgusted by already. He was like,
do something with your life. Okay. So he came
and then I'll never forget, he walked past the TV and then
he turned around to see it because Mr.
Rogers and had the little puppets with the king and the kingdom.
He looked at it. And he looked at me.
And he looked back at the TV. He watched it for about 40
seconds. Then you look back at me and said, what the hell is wrong with you? I think that should be said
to every adult who's excited about the happy meal. You need a parent or a grandparent that is in your
life. It'll just say to you, what the hell is wrong with you? Okay. I mean, I could see that.
I can see that. There is a, I feel like that was the approach back in the day. But like I was
talking about this. No, that's the approach. It should be today. Today. I'm very excited.
What are you going to say?
I'm very excited to celebrate this, this quintessential childhood memory.
Out of all the memories we have as a family, you pick the crappy two-cent toy.
There's some anti-McDontalds thing going on with you.
And I don't like it.
I love McDonald's.
I love McDonald's.
What?
No.
You are.
No, I mean, but I do feel like there's this anti, you've been bashing them a lot lately.
don't like it. I don't like it. I get defensive over the class. You know why? Because they
reduce the size of the filet of fish. Oh, okay. That makes sense. This all tracks now. Yeah.
I mean, it's like they're becoming like Dunkin minis. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Where I got to
eat two of them to equal one. Right. And I'm pissed because yes, I am fat, but I feel fatter if I
have to order two of them. Then you're just like, then you're just like, oh my gosh. Yeah.
You know, you order minis by the box.
Okay.
Okay.
You don't say, I need 36 donut holes.
You say, I want a box a minis, please.
The world needs your knowledge and wisdom on these topics.
Thank you.
They really do.
They really do.
Are you familiar with the term dink?
You're familiar with the term dink?
No, but I'm relating it to you right now.
Okay.
All right.
That's fine.
Yeah.
It means dual income.
kids?
Uh-huh.
So we had a video we were showing yesterday when we watched on News and Why It Matters as
well, these two people talking about what it means because they're dinks and they're
bragging about it.
And one of the, the fat guy who's one of the, there's a very small woman and a very large man
in the video.
I don't know how, oh, we have the video?
Okay, yeah, here it looks.
We're dinks.
We're going to get asked daily when we plan on having kids.
We're dinks.
Of course we're going to go out to eat every night after work.
We're dinks.
We don't have to ask our family for financial help or to watch our kid when we
want to go out. We're dinks. We're going to go to Costco and buy all the snacks in bulk that we want.
Okay. Okay. We're dinks. Stop, stop. Okay. Let me tell you why they're dinks. Okay. She's beautiful.
He's a fat he'll a monster. There's no way she's going to have sex with him. Right. So there's
no children in their future. That's why they're dinks. She's happy with his income. I am so
do not leave all your clothes on. Like she's, she's, turn the lights on. This is. This is. This is.
leave all the clothes on.
I had not thought about that.
Yeah.
She has brilliantly convinced him there's some new ideology between a dual income, no kids.
When they first got married, he was probably, you know, okay, you know, he was probably,
and then he just let himself go.
Right.
And she's like, I can't have sex with him.
What if we create a whole new thing?
Oh, actually, I'm just morally obligated.
Yeah, we love being dinks.
It's a way better way to live.
Let's go eat.
Yeah.
I love that.
But I have a huge problem with these points, largely because the big fat guy doesn't
understand that children largely, I mean, the biggest part of the role of children,
is to get you access to more snacks.
It's the best snack highway you're ever going to find.
Do you know how many kinds of mac and cheese I've had over the past 10 years?
It's incredible.
The world needs your knowledge.
See?
This guy is not only fat.
He's stupid. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right.
We're just bad people. Oh, there's no doubt about that.
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Right.
By the way, can I ask you a question?
Is Fetterman getting better?
I can't explain anything that's happening with John Fetterman.
He's making good points.
He's making good points.
He's taking stands that are important.
Right.
Have we gone brain dead or is he getting better?
Are you saying, is he getting better physically?
Are you saying like maybe he's actually speaking?
It is a little bit better than it was.
Now, of course, I would still argue he should not be a senator, but he is a little bit better than he was.
Like, there was an interview in the view he did the other day, and he still stumbles and has problems, but he was better than he was six months ago.
That's good, good for him, man.
Did you hear what he said about Menendez?
Yeah, yeah, he's been all over him.
Did you see, he did a George Santos cameo for Menendez?
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Oh my gosh.
He's definitely a troll.
He looks like a troll.
He does look like a troll.
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Well, hello, Stu.
Glenn, how are you?
Feeling a little bit better after your very smashed
chocolate box?
It wasn't worth smashing, smashing either.
It was, it's, it's too fancy.
Too fancy.
Yeah, I don't know, the coconut one was pretty good.
Yeah, it was pretty good, pretty good.
Not to say that I did, I stole any of them from you.
No, well, you know, you didn't have them.
I gladly trade you a box of chocolates for you opening that bottle of whiskey just to let me smell it.
Do you see what's happening, America?
This, this man who has been, who has been sober for how long?
I don't know.
I don't count.
You don't count.
Oh.
This is a problem.
He wants me to open up this bottle.
Stop counting this morning with that bottle sitting here all by myself with that bottle.
Sitting on studio.
I really just,
we need a safe in the studio for the bottle of Fox and Oden, please.
I just would like it.
I just,
I love the smell of it.
That's all like.
Oh, of course.
It's just a little bit tiny.
Of course.
It's like that,
you know,
your husband's cheated on you a few times,
but he just loves the smell of women's perfume.
That's why he's by the neck.
that's all that is
Joe Biden just love the smell
This is actually worrying you is
This is seriously
You're a little bit nervous aren't you
A little bit
Why?
It's been a desperate time
And lots of stuff's going on in the world
Crazy stuff
You know we're all at the end of our ropes
My son
I got a videotape
Of or a
You know
An Instagram post from my wife last night
Of my son
being called on by Tony Robbins and leading part of this thing yesterday.
My son is up by the stage and he's like, right now, I'll tell you right now, this is what
asked to happen.
And he's like, I don't know what's happening to my son.
Tony Robbins is like a magician.
And it's happened in a very short period of time too, right?
I mean, I'm anxious to see how long this lasts.
but my wife and my I'm getting things from my wife and my son like I don't know who they are
they're going to come back and I'm going to feel like a slug of being like they're going to be like
you know what you don't work you don't work very hard you need to you need to what are you doing
with your life do something with your life and I'm like I've already done something with my life
I'm ready to skate that's kind of yeah that's the plan of most adult men you get to a certain
point and you just get to kind of skate towards the end of right right right I mean you've done
You're skating towards the cliff or to the thin ice.
Of course, yeah.
It ends in your death.
But you're skating.
Right.
You worked hard, lacing up those shoes.
Uh-huh.
You've done your work.
It's not time for you to change your life.
That's the only thing.
You get those people who are like super high achievers and they get around you.
And it's like, yeah, sure what you're saying is true, but go away.
So my wife is not a big spender.
Okay?
You know that of her.
That's, I would say, very true.
very true.
She has very,
you're the spender in the family.
Yes,
I can spend money like nobody.
But she does not.
No.
Okay?
She is cheap on,
not cheap.
She is frugal on everything.
Much better choice of words.
She wrote to me last night,
whatever Tony Robbins charges for being a mentor for careers,
it's worth it.
And I'm like,
No, don't think it is.
I mean, don't think it.
Tony's a high value individual.
He's a high value individual.
That would be probably in the seven figures.
No, honey, don't think so.
I don't know what's happened to her.
I don't know what's happened to her.
That's interesting because you kind of looked at this as something that might help your son.
Yeah.
And my wife, she never really kind of recovered from her brother's suicide.
They were very, very close.
and she never really
she's
it's not the same
and my and honestly my career
I have felt really really
she's affected by your career
negatively too
don't even start
don't even start
don't even start
no you know she's because it's hard
it's harder on her
and the family than I think it is on me
because you know
she's just
she's lost a lot of faith in people.
You know, we don't, she doesn't, she never lets people over to the house.
She never, she just doesn't do that.
She doesn't trust people anymore.
It's really, it's, it's been horrible.
I've hated watching her change in that way.
Because she's just been so protective of me and the family and everything else.
And so her going out, I, I have no idea what's coming back home.
I have no idea.
This is fascinating.
Yeah.
And you're going into the holidays.
You're going to be around them a lot.
You're going to really feel the impact.
My son was like after like four days with Tony Robbins, I don't know, about a month ago.
We were up at the ranch and I just want to look, I've been working, okay?
I've been working.
I don't want to do anything.
Right.
And my son's like, dad, where's the saw?
Can you help me move some lumber?
And I'm like, what?
No.
No, I'm not going to help you move lumber.
and he's like, I want to get this done.
God put the trees in the place that they are for a reason.
Oh, all cut and stack.
They're right there.
They're right there.
God put them there.
I am not the man to move them.
No.
And I'm like, I don't know.
What?
What?
And I'm going to have to have a talk with Tony Robbins.
If my son comes back and my wife comes back and they demand me to, they're starting putting unreasonable demands like, dad, you should move.
move once in a while, I'm pissed.
Yeah.
Is it possible to kind of pay Tony Robbins more to make your kids and family members less
productive?
Like, can you be like, hey?
No, I want them to be more productive.
I just don't want them to demand that I've already had my productive period.
It's your turn.
Right.
You know, that's why I have kids.
You have kids.
So, you know, once you've raised these things, it's.
It's like raising.
It's like raising animals.
You've worked between three and four hours a day.
A day.
30, 40 years.
50 years.
I mean,
it's too much for a human being to do.
It is too much.
And I got to tell you, the reason why you have kids is so they do stuff and then you live off
them towards the end of your life.
Okay, yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
I thought it was more access to macaroni and cheese, but.
Well, it's that too.
Early on, it's that.
It's early on.
The reward of, the only.
The only thing that gets you through it is all the candy.
You know what I mean?
When you're raising them in there like, you know, poopy diapers and stuff, you're like, hey, maybe the kid will want some candy.
I'm going to just buy some, keep it in the cover just in case.
And then it just, somehow or another, it just disappears.
Huh.
Wow, that's terrible news.
Yeah.
So do you think this is going to turn out?
Are you happy about this development?
Oh, I'm thrilled, but I am a little nervous.
Right. Because I have no idea what's walking through the door.
It could affect you in some way. And that's not what you signed up for.
No, I signed up to affect them.
Yeah. Now, you went to this as well with Tony Robbins. And it seemed to have an impact on you, too.
This is different. My wife is like, when we went the first time, she was like, oh, Tony Robbins, what does he do?
And, you know, I've seen him. He's the guy from shallow how, right?
Yeah. It's banana hands. It makes you jump and yell and stuff. And she's like, I don't know. I'll go.
I'll go and I'll see what it's like.
She was last night, she's become like a Tony.
She's like an Amway salesman for Tony Robbins.
Yeah, she was like, you know what?
Next month he has a thing on business, you should go.
And I'm like, no, I don't want to go.
I don't want to go next month.
I mean, because now you're pushing it on me.
Now it's, now it's Amway.
Now it's Amway.
Now it's like I might need that glass cleaner, but I'm not buying it.
Right.
You don't want to hear anymore about it.
It's just principal.
Right.
No.
I will not improve my life.
I will not do it.
I'm taking a stand.
Yes.
My life will suck.
Here's some dramatic action for you, Tony Robbins.
I'm not doing it.
Not doing it.
That's a brave stand to take.
Right?
It is.
It shows you a real moral character.
I'm telling you, I don't know.
I mean, it's incredible.
It's incredible.
It really is.
I mean, I know of Tony Robbins, obviously,
he's a pretty famous guy.
But I thought of him as a more of a business.
Like that's where his, is it,
is it all more like personal improvement now?
Or is it just a different variety?
It's, I mean, it's, you know, change your thinking, change your life.
Okay.
You know.
And it affects everything.
And so it affects everything.
Yeah.
And he's,
this one,
I think he does once a year and you go and it's like six days and it's like,
it's deep stuff.
It gives,
the reason why I wanted my wife to go is,
because of the issues with her brother.
And he kind of goes into all of that stuff.
You know, whatever it is you're dealing with,
you know, you deal with it and get it out of your system.
So you can be, you know, run on clean fuel every day.
So you'd say you'd recommend this highly
unless you're talking about someone in your family
who might be annoying about it.
Then don't let them improve their lives
because it will ruin yours.
Yeah, as long as the,
Their improvement doesn't force you to improve your life.
Okay, that's it.
You know, I'm very much into improving my life.
But when they start talking about, hey, you know, there's real benefits to cold showers.
No, there's not.
I love hot showers.
I love hot showers.
There's nothing better.
And my wife is already like, you know, there is huge benefits to your body for taking cold showers in the morning and just cold shower and just do it.
What do you mean you can't control your...
I mean, are you in charge of your body or is your body in charge of you?
I don't know.
I don't think about it that much.
I just want to get up, have a warm shower, put my clothes on, and go.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have a friend who does that every morning.
He gets up and they have one of those like cold tubs.
Lunge pools.
Yeah, the plunge pool where it's like...
And he does it every day.
And he's a very successful guy and says, you know, he swears by this.
And to me, I didn't even want to put my finger in.
it to see what it felt like.
That's how unappealing it felt to me.
No, I don't want to be cold.
No, I don't want to do that.
And Tony, and Tony sells it, you know, he's like, you got to do it.
You got to do it.
You got to do it.
And you're like, really?
Really?
And he's like, yeah, there's not a day.
I've done it for years.
There's not a day I don't get up and not want to do it, but I do it.
And I'm like, you just talked me out of it.
Right.
There's not one day in your 60 years of life that you didn't think, no, I'm going to enjoy this.
No, I'm not going to do that.
No.
I mean, didn't we come, we were just talking to Alex Epstein about fossil fuels and how they've improved civilization.
Like, isn't the point of civilization so you don't have to be cold?
Yes.
Right?
Like, if you don't want to be cold, you don't have to be cold.
The whole point of this is to make life better.
I don't.
I'll take a cold shower if I can take an electric blanket in with me.
But I don't think that's a good idea.
You should try it.
You should try that one.
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So the Treasury Department launches a new strike force to crack.
down on illicit funds behind fentanyl trafficking.
Stu, this is a story in Blaze Media today.
Just tell me just from the headline what you think this story is really all about.
Give me the headline one more time.
Okay.
Treasury Department launches new strike force to crack down on illicit funds behind fentanyl trafficking.
Okay.
Well, I mean, it seems like, you know, you got the stuff coming over the border, maybe
in them from China.
They've got a crack team making sure that they can stop this.
You really think that's what that's about?
Well, no, it's probably something terrible, but I'm just saying that from the headline, it would say, okay.
But what, I'm going to read it.
Tell me, stop when you realize what this really is.
Okay.
Biden administration Treasury Department announced Monday the launch of a new strike force dedicated to cracking down unallessent funds behind fentanyl trafficking.
Agency recently formed the counter fentanyl strike force to marshal the trial.
Treasury's resources and expertise in a coordinated and streamlined operation to combat the trafficking of illicit fentanyl.
Any idea yet?
You will.
It noted that the strike force will be led by the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence and IRS Criminal Investigation.
Okay.
You're starting to get it, right?
okay. In Monday statement, Secretary of the Treasury, Janice Yellen reaffirmed the Biden administration's commitment to stemming the flow of deadly fentanyl into communities across the United States.
She noted the new strike force will allow us to bring the department's unrivaled expertise in fighting financial crime.
Treasury will use every bit of every tool at its disposal to disrupt the ability of drug traffickers to peddle the.
poison in our country.
The strike force aims to crack down on money laundering networks.
Do you know what this is about yet?
I mean, it seems like a money grab by the federal government.
Here comes the key.
Financial monitoring. Sorry, go ahead.
Financial monitoring of every citizen.
Okay.
Financial strike force aims to crack down on money laundering networks,
particularly those using Bitcoin.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
You want to stop fentanyl.
You close down the border.
And you know it really would help, Glenn.
Because obviously the way to stop fentanyl is to stop Bitcoin.
Yes, it is, isn't it?
The only way to really stop, it's not just stopping Bitcoin.
You need a central bank digital currency that you can turn off for purchases of these bad things.
Exactly right.
That way you could stop people from doing all these naughty things.
Everything would go through the financial crimes division of the IRS and the Treasury.
It's like a Department of Pre-crime.
Something like, I don't know exactly.
Something like that.
Something like that.
We'd have to come up with Newspeak to be able to come up with the right term.
I like that, though.
That will solve all of our problems.
You'll stop the problems before they start.
Yes.
Yes.
I like that.
I like that.
Did you see this story from Los Angeles where they had this potential.
serial killer and how they caught him.
No.
So he was apparently executing homeless people.
I hate these stories because I'm always like, good, serial killer caught.
Oh yeah.
Way they did it really bad.
You know, and it's happening.
This is all over the country.
But basically this guy had a car.
He went in.
They found, they saw him around one of these neighborhoods.
He went in and killed someone, like some poor dad in his garage and his way home to see
his kids, along with a bunch of homeless people.
Anyway, they got his license plate.
And they just, every time anyone pulls into.
Beverly Hills they scan all your license
every single license plate so
they just drove through Beverly Hills
and they're like oh there he is and just
went and got him
because every single person who enters the city
has their license plate scanned to see if
there are of any problem at all
and the people of Beverly Hills are like
we're really rich and we don't want people here
we don't like so
we love this idea sometimes just
because they're driving a Prius
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I was at Colin.
Colony Ridge over the last few days, been doing some investigation on a documentary that we're doing and had to come home for the debate tonight.
But Jason Buttrill is down.
He's our head researcher and head writer for the Glenbeck program.
And kind of handed some of the stuff off yesterday.
He's got another interview tonight and ride-along in Colony Ridge.
It is this massive, massive project where nobody speaks English, really.
And none of the cops do either.
I think they have 50 sheriff's deputies for this enormous county.
And there's eight people for, I believe it's 79,000 people now.
The developers will say there's only 35,000 people there.
Not true.
according to the school district that has a way to figure out how many people are, you know, coming in,
you have to live in that area to be able to go to the schools.
They say there's 75 or 79,000 people.
Eight cops, eight.
And that's on four shifts.
Okay.
And very few speak any Spanish at all.
Any Spanish?
Yeah.
They don't speak Spanish.
And the residents generally don't speak English.
So that's a good combo.
It's a really good combo.
It's crazy.
It's crazy what's going on.
I talked to the sheriff yesterday.
And this is the hardest story to figure out because I hear opposite stories from everybody we talk to.
And the sheriff was the first one that said, boom, here's the book.
Here's what's really going on.
So we're going to follow up this week with Jason.
That'll be interesting.
and Jason Butchell doing the coverage.
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I told you yesterday that Instagram, they banned a story that we had where we just talked about Hamas and what happened.
It was right after October 7th.
We didn't show any graphic stuff.
We showed the stuff that everybody else has seen and everybody else has shown.
And I was talking about Hamas and what happened.
Instagram banned me, banned that story and then ban me from doing anything live, which I don't do for the next 30 days.
I'm sure my numbers are being suppressed now.
And it's because I was talking about a dangerous group.
Well, yeah, it's Hamas.
And I was reporting the news.
You're banning this?
Yes is the answer.
Now, if you look at YouTube, when I'm talking about Hamas, and this isn't happening on anybody else's page, when I'm talking about Hamas, first of all, the thumbnail is blurred out so you can't see anything about Hamas.
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There's a couple of other things that I want to,
go through today.
There is, well, this one's just kind of satisfying at the Met Opera last week, which is so
relatable.
Everybody goes to the opera.
And, you know, it's like, what's playing at the opera right now?
Is it ghost protocol?
No.
Probably, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But anyway, at the Matt, these climate protesters came in.
Now, this is so satisfying to me because the Met, it's full of all those rich, snoddy leftists, most likely.
And they're the ones who are funding all these climate idiots.
So a climate idiot gets into the Met and starts to disrupt the opera.
Here it is.
Shut up.
Never liked an opera audience more than this.
I know.
I mean, wait until you see the guy in the tuxedo.
don't come. Just shut up and get out.
I mean, I mean, they hit this. So somebody in the crowd,
lady. I mean, they say,
they're like, you know,
you know people pay her to the whole thing.
You're lucky. You're not in the oven.
No.
I mean, this is, this is worse than anything the media ever showed about a Trump rally.
Yeah.
That's really, they're really pissed.
They're really pissed.
Are they aware of the thing they're there for sucks?
I don't think so.
I think they're still under the illusion that this is nice.
Oh, wow.
That's the big problem.
I'm really enjoying this.
No, they're not.
You had to believe half the men in that audience were like, thank God.
Honey, we should go.
We should really go.
Something bad might happen.
This is very dangerous.
Plus, what are we doing for the climate?
I'm very concerned what we're doing.
We should not go to those operas anymore.
No.
It is fascinating.
Of course, the people that fund all of these.
Extinction Rebellion is the group that did this.
And they're, you know, one of the most extreme organizations on the planet.
We have a recurring segment on Studez America called idiots,
gluing themselves to things.
Yeah.
And that's usually extinction rebellion.
They go and there are people that glue themselves to the floor of like a factory.
You're just like,
just to leave them there.
I would never take,
they help them out.
I just leave them there.
Bye.
We just take the,
you know,
we just work around them.
Let's work around them.
And all day.
Draw a yellow circle around for safety.
So you don't run into them or,
you know,
and you just leave them there.
Just do that once and it's never going to happen again.
No one's ever going to glue themselves to things again.
Nope.
But it would be almost like a sequel to the movie Saw, where eventually you just leave a saw with them in the circle.
It just wait until they saw their hands off to get out.
I mean, it would probably take a week or two.
Yeah.
Well, do they have access to water?
I, you know, that's debatable.
I say they go, especially if they do it in an opera house and the operas are going on.
Oh, I think, yeah.
They'll be dead in a day.
Yeah.
The operas, I think, you just, you keep going with them.
And you'd be like, okay, here's your saw.
You can saw your hand off anytime you want to leave.
And then they may just commit suicide with the saw to get out of the opera, which is a fascinating development.
So here's Senator Kennedy yesterday talking to our FBI director, Christopher Ray, about the Hunter Biden laptop, which we now know.
They knew everything about.
They had all the information.
Sure.
And they kept silent.
Listen to what Christopher Ray says.
Why didn't the FBI just say, hey, the laptop's real.
Why didn't you just tell everybody the laptop's real?
We're not vouching for what's on it, but it's real.
This isn't a fiction.
Well, as you might imagine, the FBI cannot, especially in a time like that, be talking about an ongoing investigation.
Second, I would tell you that, at least my understanding, is that both the FBI,
folks involved in the conversations and the Twitter folks involved in the conversations.
Both say that the FBI did not direct Twitter to suppress that particular story.
But others were in government?
Well, I can't, again, I can't speak to others in government.
That's part of the point that I was trying to make because the fifth circuit's opinion.
But you're the FBI.
You're not part of the White House and part of Homeland Security.
You're not supposed to be political.
You see all this controversy going on.
Why didn't the FBI said, time out, folks, we're not getting in the middle of this,
the laptop's real.
Well, he said, because you can't get involved in the middle of an election.
So we couldn't deny the falsehoods.
It's in the middle of an election.
Wouldn't that be the one thing that you would want them to do?
It's just say, look, we're not saying anything about the content of it, but we are,
this is not Russian propaganda.
This is not Russian propaganda.
The laptop is real, but what's on it, we can't vouch for.
At the very least, they certainly should have informed the other branches of government that this was going on.
Exactly right.
Those branches of government were going to all these social media accounts and saying the exact opposite.
They were saying it is Russian propaganda.
They were releasing letters saying this is Russian propaganda, when in reality, they probably knew.
I mean, my guess is the FBI did go and did inform them that this was real.
and they did it anyway to get it pulled down.
That's the real crime.
And again, I'm with you.
Christopher Ray, I have no soft spot for him in my heart.
No, Donald Trump says he's the jury still out on him.
Is it?
Really?
I mean, obviously Trump, you know, appointed him.
Right.
Is that what he's, he's, he's saying that now?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I am.
Wow, that's surprising.
Yeah.
I thought he, I mean, because some of this stuff has burned Trump.
I mean, it's not like Christopher
Ray has been helpful to Donald Trump.
No. I'm surprised. And I don't want him
just to go in. What did you think about his statement?
So Donald Trump. His statement, I'm not going to be a
dictator. I mean, on first day I will be,
but only that day.
I would prefer zero days
of him being a dictator. That's why I say it's
so Donald Trump. Yeah, he was tongue and cheap.
Right. That's the way he does things.
He's basically saying, yeah, I'm going to
be a dictator for this first day.
I'm going to repeal all of
those executive orders. They're all
going away. Yeah, and of course, that's not, it's the, that's the opposite of a dictator.
Yes. Right. You're taking someone who has been acting like a dictator and repealing what he's doing.
That's not being a dictator. Right. Again, like, it's funny, Trump is the opposite of everybody else when
it comes to the stuff. And maybe this is part of his, his magical power. But like, most people
want to say something in the way that will explain it the best. And also, that will cause the least
problems for you. Like you would
want to form a sentence
in a way that would disarm
criticism.
He does the opposite.
He's saying, like when he's saying this dictator
thing, and I read the transcript of it, I didn't see the
clip, but I read the transcript of it.
And he's clearly
just saying
that he will go in and use the
executive powers that he has as
president and unwind
bad policies that were put in by
another executive.
that's not a
that is not a way to describe
what a dictator does
but he actually says it in a way
that makes it sound worse than it is
he's intentionally making it sound bad
I know
I think he loves that
I think he loves it too
I think he loves that
but it does seem to work for him
at least with Republican primary voters
like I mean I don't know that it works for everybody
you know it worked in 2016
he got over the finish line there
2020 didn't
but 2024 question mark
Interesting year.
2024 is going to be it.
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
I can't wait to watch this all play out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Let me play something else.
We had Christopher Ray testifying in front of the Senate yesterday,
and we found out more information that they are talking to priests,
monitoring Catholic churches,
following Catholics, the FBI is targeting Catholics.
Senator Holly didn't like that. Listen.
So the 60 million American Catholics,
who now learn that your FBI has recommended
that Priests be recruiters and formants,
your FBI has gone to priests, choir directors,
but we're to feel better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing.
You again are conflating two different things.
Why not? I am taking your testimony where you said you do not.
You said categorically, you said, we do not.
We do not go to priests and ask them about their parishioners.
You said, we do not.
You didn't say we haven't.
You didn't say we won't.
You said we don't.
As it turns out, you do.
And you kept it from the public.
You deliberately misled Congress about it.
And the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.
I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.
There's no characterization, the facts of the facts.
And I fundamentally resent the fact that you have violated, if not the spirit.
if not the letter, it's certainly the spirit of the First Amendment.
I will tell you that these guys, if the Republicans win the presidency,
because that's what it's going to take,
these guys are going to go to jail for perjury.
Because I will tell you, Rand Paul is mad as hell.
Holly is mad as hell.
A lot of them are.
And they can't do anything.
They can't say you perjured yourself in front of Congress
because they only
turn it over
to the Justice Department.
And with the Justice Department
being so corrupt,
they're never going to prosecute
any of these guys.
They all have to be prosecuted.
You lied to Congress.
It should be over.
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