The Glenn Beck Program - JAILED for Daring to Feed Her Family | Guest: Arthur Brooks | 5/6/20

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther was sentenced to jail for refusing to apologize for disobeying stay-at-home orders and opening her shop. The U.K. scientist behind much of our coronavirus response has resigned for breaking his own rules to have an affair. Texas law enforcement brought a military vehicle to arrest armed protesters. Harvard business professor Arthur Brooks joins to discuss the serious risk of depression during quarantine and how social media plays a role. Glenn runs through how many Democrats actually believe Biden over Tara Reade and introduces us to Biden’s SEVEN accusers. Shelley Luther’s attorney, Warren Norred, joins with a firsthand view of her court hearing and how the judge wanted to make an example out of her. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, man. I am so sick and tired to bring in this news to you, but the government is just out of control, just out of control. yesterday, the salon owner that we had on last week was sentenced to jail for opening her salon because she was going to go out of business. Her salon workers were struggling with money. They had no money.

They needed to go back to work. So she opened last week. We had her on. today in Texas they sent her to jail wait until you actually you hear what the judge said we had microphones it was on youtube yesterday so microphones were in the courtroom you've got to hear it it is unbelievable that's coming up in 60 seconds this is the glenbeg program so i was full on white trash yesterday uh it was great. You know, my neighbor two doors down is Rex Tillerson, the former Secretary of State,

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The Democrats claim to be the party that believes all women. But what about Tara Reid? Joe Biden is Joe Biden. He's a person of great values. So I want to remove all doubt in anyone's mind. Glenn examines the allegations against Joe Biden and does what the left and the media didn't do for Brett Kavanaugh. Follow the facts.

Watch Glenn expose the dangerous MeToo hypocrisy of the left. 9 p.m. Eastern at blaisTV.com slash glen. Yeah. I'm going to introduce you to the seven, seven accusers of Joe Biden tonight. You don't want to miss it. And we really try to do a very thorough examination of the charges and everything that's going on. You decide nobody else in the media is apparently willing to do this. So it's left off.

Left up to us us Yahoo's that have no authoritative truth, apparently. All right, I want to take you now to Dallas, Texas. Shelly Luther was a woman here in Texas, or she still is, but she's now in jail. And she's never had a run in with a law. She's not a revolutionary. She's just a salon owner. And she got to a point where she couldn't keep her salon closed anymore. Now, we have created a black market.

I mean, this is why these things never work. There's a black market. You can go get your haircut. Somebody will come to your house and cut your hair. People are getting their haircut. So we're now making people into criminals. So she can't, she's going to lose her business. People on her staff were having a hard time feeding their children.

They needed the money. money. So last week, we now know, because of yesterday, that salons are open in Texas on Friday. So she was a week early. She opens it up. She gets a court order immediately because the, this is, this is what she says. I don't know this for sure, but she said that the one who had lodged the complaint was the store owner, you know, a couple of doors down, which was a dog grooming place, which was open. So it was cool to have your dog groomed, but you couldn't groom. So she gets a court order and she says, no, I'm not going to do it. And she gets a cease and assist order from a judge. She is on television and she rips it up. Well, that really pissed off the judge.

And, you know, we're not a system of laws anymore. We're a system of men. How dare you? How dare you, quote, defile a cease and desist order by ripping it up? How dare you? You don't believe me? Listen to the judge yesterday when she was hauled in front of court and sentenced to jail. Listen to the arrogance of this judge.

that you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function where one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials that you owe an apology to the elected officials whom you disrespect disrespected but flagrantly ignoring and in one case defiling their orders which you now know obviously that you understand that the proper way in which an order in an ordered society to engage concerns which you may have had is to hire a lawyer and advocate for change an exception or an amendment to laws that you find offensive that you publicly state that this is the way that citizens in the state should behave and that you represent it stop i can't take it i can't i can't

take it she has to apologize you notice he says that you defiled their order it was your order there what what do you have a mouse in your pocket there is no they in that you issued the order you were offended that she ripped it up and so now you want an apology a public apology you want to shame her and now you're you're putting her in jail because of quote her arrogance and her selfishness. Oh, she's selfish. Well, then the judge said to her, do you have anything to say before I sentence you?

And she said, yes, I do. Here is her comment. Judge, I would like to say that I have much respect for this court and loss. And that I've never been in this position before. And it's not someplace that I want to be. but I have to disagree with you, sir, when you say that I'm selfish because feeding my kids is not selfish. I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon.

He looks away from her when she says, I have to disagree with you. He is so pissed off at her. This is, I don't even recognize this. What are you doing? What the hell is our country doing right now? This is a woman who doesn't have a record. She's not a troublemaker. She's been forced to close her.

business. She's going out of business. She has no money. Her salon workers have no money. She obeyed for how many weeks? Six. There are many Americans who believe that we should have shut things down. We had no handle. This is my belief. We had no handle on this, on this disease. We had no idea what we were headed towards. I told you it's not about the death. It's about overwhelming the system. We can't overwhelm the system because it would be total chaos. Well, we didn't overwhelm the system. We did our job and we did it voluntarily.

You didn't have to tell us. We did it voluntarily. You should have suggested it. And now what are you doing? when we have had enough, not in New York, not in a hot spot in Los Angeles, but in places where it's, do you know that if you talk to the hospitals

and the nurses here in Dallas, Texas, you know, they're laying people off nurses, doctors. So you, we didn't overwhelm the system. We have the capacity. People are not going to go out and be crazy because nobody wants to die and nobody wants to kill anybody else. You know, and there's always going to be stupid people out there. I don't think she's stupid, but there always will be stupid people, always. And I don't have a right to be kept safe.

In fact, I don't want you to lock me into a room to keep. me safe anyone who is taking away my rights of freedom I will I'm here at my house I'm self-quarantined but you're forcing me and then out of your arrogance you think you're more important than people feeding their kids you think you're more important than a lifetime of dreams gone down the crapper wiping your family out that's this is what's happening in America families are being wiped out and everybody cries about oh my gosh well if if you have if you if you if you went to Harvard I can't expect to be paying that back I'll never get out of debt well where's the outcry of this oh I I know

Yeah, it's coming from Nancy Pelosi because what Nancy Pelosi wants is the power. Otherwise, give us a freaking tax cut. You've already made unemployment, which, by the way, in many states, still people can't get their unemployment, still haven't had their unemployment check. And the arrogance of governors like Cuomo, what comes out and says, well, then go get an essential workers job. Screw you, Cuomo. where is the arrogance of these people? And by the way, they all think they're above it.

They all do. I mean, we have the other Cuomo brother who was self-quarantined in his basement and lecturing all of us, how you have to stay in. But he was outside. He was caught outside

when he was supposed to be self-quarantined in his basement. He wasn't. In fact, a passer by, a biker went, wait a minute, aren't you supposed to be quarantine? Don't you have the coronavirus? Yeah, shut up. Are you kidding me? No, I don't know if you heard that Niles Ferguson, the guy who got the UK to shut everything down.

He was the guy who came out from Oxford and said, oh, man, it's millions will die. Okay. All right. So at the time, we thought that was pretty legitimate. He's a legitimate guy. You see that he resigned yesterday because he wasn't self-quarantining. He decided that he was going to go have a sexual affair with a married woman who lives at home with her husband and two children.

if you believe this, what are you, you're trying to kill her and her children and her husband? No, they're above it. They're above it. That's for everybody else. That's the little people. Well, maybe in Mary Old England,

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If it's as bad in Texas, the freest state in the union, what the hell are you living through? Good heavens, man. Okay. So Gabrielle Ellison, she owns this bar in West Odessa. Texas. She said she was going to reopen her doors in violation of the state's COVID-19 lockdown because she couldn't support her family anymore. She said, I'm losing my bar. I'm losing all of my money. I've got to reopen. So she decides to reopen. Well, she's in trouble. Okay. So she, they want to do a protest against the state.

And it happened what yesterday? Today's Wednesday. Yeah. It happened yesterday. She says they called the sheriff's department and said, hey, there's going to be a protest, blah, blah, blah. They were fine. Well, they weren't fine. The sheriff came in.

The sheriff came in and arrested a lot of the people at this rally. Now, it's because they were carrying guns. Well, wait a minute. What's the problem with that? They were carrying guns. They say in the bar, but they weren't in the bar. She says, Gabrielle says, that they were on private property behind the bar, not connected to the bar. Don't know the truth about that, but if you weren't in the bar, if you're in the bar, it's against state law.

You've got to obey the law with guns. but they weren't. They were arrested outside. Here's the real problem. They roll in with a military tank. You know, every time you do that, you set people off. What the hell are you doing? The problem here is, is the heavy-handedness.

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I hate to use this word, but I really feel so urgent on this. I feel a little freaked out by what's happening with the censorship now. What, what is, it's a hundred, it's a thousand times worse than it was when we were talking about Prager University and everything else. They are now saying they need authoritative voices and authoritative truth. Well, their authoritative truth comes from CNN. Their authoritative voices are CBS News. And that comes at the direct expense of us. They are throttling us down and pointing you to them.

And it's so dangerous right now, especially with the coronavirus where you can't question things. You know, if I talk about the Wuhan labs, I get punished for that. You will not see those posts that we do. I bet you see less than half of the stuff that we post right now because you're just not, in fact, I know it. I see the numbers from Facebook. I see how many of my audience is actually exposed. The people who signed up and said, I want stuff from Glenn. How much is exposed and how much is not?

We're going to lose track of one another and voices will be silenced. This is why I built Blaze TV. it's why I started it. So we wouldn't, there would be no one in between us. Please join us at Blaze TV. Tonight at 9 o'clock we are taking on the Joe Biden accuser. She has an invitation. She was, she responded to us last week and she said, I will, I'll get right back to you.

We have not heard back from her. There's still time. Maybe she will join us live tonight. But, but we'll see Tara Reid. we invited her to be a part of the program tonight. And we are going to go through all of the things that she said and all the things that Joe Biden and the press are doing the story that they won't do. But we will tonight, 9 p.m. Welcome to the program, Mr. Pat Gray.

How are you, sir? I'm good. I'm good. Is there a better example of what you were just talking about than those two doctors from Los Angeles who have tested and treated over 5,200 patients? And they were contradicting things. that Fauci was saying and so that YouTube took them off. Just shut them down. Just took their video off.

What's crazy about this, Pat, is they may not be right on everything, but is Fauci right on everything? No. Is it W.H.O. We're talking about what's so crazy is. Let people decide they're smart enough to make their own decisions. Yes. Yes.

And they don't see that the problem that the left says they have with. with faith is it dumbs you down, you know, you can't, you can't talk about things. They don't want you to investigate things. You know, there are bad questions. Oh, the devil may just say that. All these kinds of things. That's what they hate. They hate the fact that the Catholic Church locked in the, and so do I.

You know, Galileo locked up in the tower. I hate that. That's completely out of control because church became political. well I got news for you science is now political science is now the church and and you cannot vary from what official science says period even scientists can't those doctors may may be wrong on some things but they have a valid place and a valid reason to speak out if that's truly what they believe and they have the science to back it up, even if they're wrong, because science is always wrong. It's always wrong. Butter's good for you. Butter's bad.

Butter's good, butter's bad. Butter's good, butter's bad. Shut up. You don't know how big the universe is. You don't know anything. We've never explored the bottom of the ocean. Stop telling me that you know everything because you don't, especially something like the coronavirus.

They're just locking people up into the tower if they disagree. It's making people so cynical. We did a, did an internet poll just on Twitter. Asking people if and when a vaccine comes out, will you take it? 70% said no. Because they don't. They're going to be forced to. That's what I said.

They'll probably mandate it. And then you're really going to get people's backs up. Then they're really going to be pissed. You know, people thought that it would be a second amendment thing that could cause a revolution and a war in this country and a civil war. it could be something as simple as a vaccine. Good. And only because people don't trust the government anymore.

Yeah, and they don't trust. They don't trust any of this. They don't trust some private business owners either like, I don't know, Bill Gates, really leery of that guy. Yeah, and this is one of the reasons why, you know, people have talked about the Swedish model as something that we could do here. And it's really, just like we always say with healthcare, you can't just plop the Swedish model in the United States.

The Swedish people are very, compliant and trusting of government and experts. And they're very, they're the size of like Rhode Island. Yeah. And it's not even working there anyway, but that's a whole other story. But it's not a plausible option. As we've been talking to Bernie Sanders about for decades here in this country, like you can't just plop these solutions from a 10 million person country into the United

States and expect it to work the same way. And, you know, again, I think you're right. And you brought this up earlier. if you're not rolling into bars with tanks, the people are going to be a lot more likely to trust you when you have a different solution. Let me ask you this, Stu, you heard the audio, Pat, you heard the audio a few minutes ago

of the judge in that salon owner case here in Dallas where he said, you defiled my order and, you know, you're going to jail, you're arrogant, you're selfish. she said, I'm just trying to feed my family. Now, imagine what would happen if a judge in Texas said the same thing and the defendant responded the same way, except she wasn't a salon owner. She was an illegal alien. Imagine what would be said.

Oh, man. Yeah, they just wouldn't happen. And you're going to separate this woman from her family for seven days? You'd never do that to an illegal alien. No illegal aliens can be separated from their families, but American citizens can and nobody even cares. Nobody cares about it. I'm telling you, there is a, there's a, and I urge people, I am with you. I am with you.

Those who want to march and, and protest, I think this is, this is another tea party coming, but this one is stronger. and you will have more people on your side, but you can't roll in with arms and the back of a, you know, I saw those people up in Michigan and they had the back of the, you know, the Humvee or whatever it was, you know,

one of the big army trucks and they had guys, you know, peeking out from behind with rifles. That's, people don't want that. No. Americans don't want revolution. We're not blood in the streets kind of people. And every time you do that, you set you hurt your case.

Please don't do that. Please don't do that. Everything is about image. This is why Martin Luther King won. He knew if we strike back. If we do anything, we will lose. He knew Malcolm X was wrong. It's a different thing in America than it is any place else.

do it. And when you say that, people always go back to, well, the founders, the founders, the founders got. Yeah, the founders waited like 40 years of peaceful means. They went back and forth to Britain over and over and over seeking redress. They tried and tried to do something peaceful. And at the last resort, when there was nothing else available to them. Well, what is our last resort? Well, not the last resort. They had, the king had soldiers quartering in the, their home. They were searching papers in their home. Now, me personally, I think you could make a case that the federal government is doing that right now by spying on us and having tracking all of our movements and tracking all of our voices and drones up in the sky. I mean, you could make the case,

but you've got to win the hearts of the American people. And they are on your side. But the minute you look like Antifa, you lose. You lose. Yeah, no doubt about it. It's just, it's every time you show up armed like that, I think in the minds of the American people, you're an extremist. And that's what they label you as. And here's the problem. It's going to hurt the reelection of Donald Trump. If that becomes a big force like Antifa, if you start to see that on the street, Donald Trump will support your ideas.

He can't believe I'm saying this about him because this was my biggest fear is that he would become a dictator kind of guy. Well, he hasn't. He's demonstrated the exact opposite. But so he's agreeing with you in principle that these things shouldn't be happening. Right. But the minute he says that, they're going to say, look, he's for this military uprising, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you will sway some people because people, Americans don't. like those images and those images are all that's going to be seen that's all that's going to be seen well look what they've done look what they've done to the images of the two swastikas that were at that michigan rally that you've been talking about the michigan rally had had all they've talked about in the press is the two swastikas and the swastikas weren't praising nazis they were saying you're acting like a nazi and we're opposed to that but that's not the way it was presented in the

press so they took that and turned it completely around. Take a look at, take a look at my career. There is, I won the Defender of Israel Award. Okay, I didn't win it. I mean,

it was like a campaign, you know, it was all like a contest. I was awarded, the defender of Israel. The, the award was presented, uh,

by Sheldon Aidelson and his wife and Benjamin Netanyahu. Okay. Uh, and yet I, the press said that I was an anti-Semite. How many Jewish people believe that I'm an anti-Semite? Because they took everything I said with, I said, look at the pattern. This is the beginning of Nazi kind of stuff if you don't stop it.

Look at the pattern of anti-Semitism in Europe. Look at what's happening in our own country, in our universities. Somehow or another, they made me look like an anti-Semite. Okay, well, if, I mean, I was on. Fox News. You're not on Fox News. You're not there every day to defend yourself with a powerful voice. If they have those images, they will destroy you. And I don't mean to be insulting, Glenn, but you are a legitimately terrible anti-Semite. Oh, you are awful at it. I mean, you just can't pull it off. You keep you, I mean, for a guy who's so anti-Semitic, you just keep praising Jews all the time. What is going on with you? I'm really bad at almost everything I do.

Yeah. I just don't know of exercise. By the way. Antisemitism. All. You're just bad at all of them. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You know, I actually, you know, you guys, we were talking off the air about the COVID-35. Oh. That we're all gaining. I thought it was a COVID-19. You're now the COVID-35? I think everybody can agree we all gained about 35 pounds.

Oh, easy. That is the one thing that is really impacting a lot of us. I mean, the good news is we're going to be selling a lot of sweatpants. So I hope America has not gotten out of the sweatpants industry because I don't want my dollars going over to China. They're sweatshops making sweatpants for big fat Americans. Well, anyway. All right. Thank you, Pat.

You're welcome, Glenn. It's an honor just to be here. You're welcome, Glenn. She's what a jerk. It was an honor just to be here. Thank you very much. I know it is. Anyway, my pillow, I want to talk to you about my pillow.

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He's coming up in just a little while. Also, we have the woman. who actually we have her lawyer she was supposed to be on but she's in jail now but we have her attorney on in hour number three uh the woman who went to jail for opening up her salon here in uh Dallas Texas which is crazy by the way speaking of crazy Texans uh Dan Rather is in the news um these guys they're so blind they think they're so smart and they are so blind as to what is happening in the country and the role that they're playing. It's almost laughable.

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Why don't I, why am I not talking to you all the time? He is so bright and he is also one of the happiest warriors I've ever met. But I never, for some reason, I just, I think that's part of the happiness index. That's the, that's the issue of bad at life. It really is. It really is. He's now a professor of practice at Harvard's Kennedy School. He is a senior fellow at the Harvard Business School.

He is the producer of the pursuit. He knows more about what makes the free market work. and what makes America so different and how to convince others that it's worth doing it this way. This helps more people and more people are happy under a free market than any other system. We're going to talk to him about the free market, but also about the crisis that the coronavirus really has put on us that we're not talking about yet, and that is depression, uh, loneliness, and a general lack of happiness.

Arthur Brooks, one of my favorite guests in one minute. This is the Glimbeck program. Nobody wakes up in the morning saying, man, I really hope when I look in the mirror, I've got crow's feet in a double chin and maybe some dark spots for good measure. Nobody does that.

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been like six months. It's ridiculous. You are. I see you. I'm like I feel like I was separated at birth from this guy. Exactly. Right. And we see the world in the same way. Right? And we have the same Yeah, we do. We love America, but we're not, we're not uncritical. We see what's wrong and we want to make it right? We were we were we were both classically trained uh French hornists so oh no that's you I don't know that's that's just you um anyway so uh Arthur you are now teaching at Harvard Kennedy school and uh you're what what exactly is the class you're teaching what is it you're teaching so I'm a professor of leadership at Harvard and and I span two schools the Harvard Kennedy School is the policy school at Harvard and I and the Harvard

Harvard Business School is obviously HBS is where people get their MBAs. And I teach classes in leadership at the policy side. I teach classes in happiness at the Harvard Business School. It's the most incredible opportunity I've ever had. I just finished this super popular, very oversubscribed class called Leadership and Happiness to my MBA students right before they all had to leave and not come back. Now, does the school and the students do they know how much of a, free market guy you are?

Well, I think, you know, most universities in America today, they'll accept a free marketeer on a case-by-case basis. Okay. And, you know, the nice thing about it is, I mean, like most universities, Harvard University has, you know, most of the people are pretty left-leaning. But what I love about it is a real, it's a real marketplace for ideas and there's an appreciation for people who think differently. So I felt incredibly welcome.

I love it. I have to say, well, and my students. are smart and everybody mixes it up, it's fine. There could not be a better mascot or champion of the free market and our system than you. I'm thrilled that you're up there making an impact. I want to talk to you a little bit about an article

that you just wrote on happiness and fulfillment because we have something that we're not really talking about, one of the real unintended consequences of what's happening. happening with COVID is people are wildly lonely. Loneliest the the according to research. Loneliest Americans have ever been. Uh, and we have real fear, uh, doubt people are going to be, you know, many people have already lost their job. That just does horrible things to people. So I wanted to talk to you about happiness because in this article, you, you said that there's, there's three equations. And I want you to take us through the three equations. Um,

of how we can get better. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. And just to even back up a little bit, the loneliness thing is a really interesting problem because most of us, we leave our relationships up to our circumstances, and then we can't. I mean,

most of us actually feel good with other people, maybe not in a, you know, bustling party, but seeing other people, but we don't know why we feel good. And there's an answer to that. And the answer is that there's a neurotransmitter

that's created by the human brain called oxytocin, not to be confused with octocontin, obviously. But they're actually similar in so far is that oxytocin makes us feel physically good. And when people are really lonely, they'll take drugs because they actually want to substitute for it. This is one of the reasons that it's on the 20% of active duty troops in Vietnam were addicted to heroin. But when they came back and they got their oxytocin in their brains, which came from contact with others, 95% spontaneously stopped using heroin on their first day back. This stuff is super powerful. And when we don't take into account, this oxytocin, this neurotransmitters,

is hormone in the human brain, we're going to actually feel horrible. So the challenges, you know, for public policy makers and leaders, is understanding that we have to make cost-benefit calculations where people are not going to become depressed and lonely, even if there's some risk to society. It's very important. And for the rest of us, we have to understand that and make decisions where we can get our fix of the oxytocin that God wants us to have. So I don't know if you remember John Huntsman Sr.

But he was a friend of mine and, you know, grew up dirt poor, became a billionaire. And a guy that really had everything, had a great family, had a great business, great reputation, more money than, you know, the holy family. but, you know, the only family was poor. But he just had a lot. And you would look on the outside and you would say, this guy, there's no way this guy couldn't be happy. And he was happy. He was fulfilled.

But he taught me something one of the first times. He kind of became a mentor of mine. And we were just walking around in his yard, his backyard. And he said, so Glenn, how much is enough? And I said, what? And he said, how much is enough? And now here's a guy who's walking around. And we were on the side of a mountain that he owned.

And I said, I don't know. And he said, well, you have to decide. And you have to decide right now. He said, because when you get there, you won't recognize it because it won't be enough. So you have to recognize it now. Otherwise, you'll always be pursuing it. Yeah, that's right. And the key thing is that the key thing to remember is that there are basically four things.

that your brain is telling you to chase that are idols and they won't bring happiness. And there are four things you should be chasing. So here's basically, so I'll give everybody a second who's listening to us, all million that are listening to us right now. Pick up a pencil. Okay. So the four things that your brain that Mother Nature is telling you you really, really want are money, power, pleasure, and fame.

And fame means prestige or whatever. It means the admiration of other people, okay? Money, power, pleasure, and fame. Those are the things that Mother Nature. If you get it, you'll finally be happy, but they're wrong. They're idols. Yeah, big time. They're 180 degrees off of what you really want.

Here's what you really want that will actually give you enduring happiness. Faith, family, friendship, and work that serves others and where you can earn your success. That's it. That's your happiness portfolio. Those are the places where you're supposed to put your deposits. Mother Nature, by the way, doesn't care if we're happy. I mean, notwithstanding this thing I talked about, this oxytocin in our brains, Mother Nature,

she's like, yeah, look it's famous, and you'll finally be happy. You'll be on the hedonic treadmill on the hamster wheel of life for the rest of your life. That's why John Huntsman. So, Glenn, what's your number? Why? Because that's the only chance

if you can answer that question to get off the treadmill. And it is, it's, again, one of the reasons why I left Fox is because I wanted, I noticed that I was starting to want the fame. And I knew, because I'm an alcoholic. I had already washed out once. I knew these things. And as the minute I wanted it, I realized, I'm going to destroy myself. I mean, and that's why people who are famous, you generally will sell their soul or if they're powerful

in Congress, they'll sell their soul because they want it. And they just keep trading away the things of real meaning and value. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. Fame is a really, it's, it's, it's, it's the worst of the four, by the way. So you can be quite happy with money, with money, but the same you can only ever be happy in spite of it. And yet people really, really want it. And this actually comes from evolutionary biology. So evolutionary biologists will say that people want, you know, this ratio of people who know you versus the people you know, you want that to be really, really high because you're more likely, if you're a, you know, troglodyte 500, 500,000 years ago, you're more likely to get more baits if you have prestige,

The problem is in the current world, we've taken the ability to become famous to these incredible heights. You know, anybody can be a celebrity on YouTube if you just do it right. And so the result is that our brains are saying, get more famous, get more famous. And yet everybody you talk to who's achieved fame, they'll say, I can only ever be happy in spite of it. But I keep running toward it. I mean, you have the presence of mine because you're actually somebody who has battled idolatry. who's battled addiction. But these are real addictions.

Money, Power, Pleasure, Fame. These are real addictions. You beat it once, and so you know what it looks like. You know what a monster looks like. And that guy, you know, it's like trying to get in your house all the time. So you say, hmm, I'm going to go do something else. And I really admired that when you did it. So I knew what you were doing because I knew you.

And I said, boy, Glenn has really has presence of mind. This is, this is, it was very adroit. And it's really weird, Arthur, because our kids are, they're just pursuing fame they did the YouTube Facebook they're there they're all of society is teaching us the exact opposite and it's encouraging it and they're looking for fame and I'm telling you I think you're you're absolutely right that it's the worst one it's battery acid to the soul and even when even when you when you recognize that as you as you as you be

become less famous or whatever, you're, there's something in you that's like, don't, no, don't, no, no, no. And it's crazy. You're going to die. Yeah, it's crazy. It's really crazy. It really is for sure. And most people, you know, even adults who are not trying to become YouTube stars,

what they want is this admiration. So it's a form of local fame called prestige. I want the right people to admire me. And it's just the admiration of people that people will, they crave so much and they work so hard to get. And you recognize that at the end of the day, the people who admire you, they don't care if you die.

They don't care. And if you, if you, it's why I think there are so many people that are unwilling to speak out on things like the Me Too movement, Me Too movement. It's good. We need the balance.

You know, it's made some good things, but it's also been just battering, acid on on liberties and and and justice and and truth and people will just line up to just parrot whatever it is because they don't want to lose their prestige they don't want to be a pariah nobody wants to be a pariah yeah you want to it tends to turn people into pleasers and you know I'm going to serve you know the trivial desires of other people it'll it'll basically take away your dignity in the end because you know you know whether fox news or

MSNBC or whatever, still these are profit-making organizations. So they'll just try you out, man, again and again and again. They'll say they'll basically instrumentalize Clint Beck. And you're not an instrument. You're a human being. You're a child of God. You have dignity. And only you at the end of the day and a few other people, you know, your spouse, your

kids, your friends are the people who will stand up for your dignity. That's why when you stood up for your own dignity and said, I'm going to go my own way. I admired it so much. And, you know, each one of us, most people were listening. to you. I mean, they follow you, they admire you, they take your lead. They love your leadership. And they say, well, yeah, I was different. I mean, Glenn and Arthur have a different kind of life than I do, especially Glenn. He's a big famous guy. Every single person faces these decisions all the time. We face these decisions constantly. Am I going to sell myself for a symbol

of myself? Or am I going to remember who I am? And Hugh to that, it's really important that all must have this. We sell our soul. We become that Hollywood star or whatever. Every time we edit a picture of our life or we take the perfect picture of our life and post it on Facebook and don't post what really is going on. You know what I mean? You don't see your life a mess. Everybody is skewing it, which makes things worse for you because you're not living that life. And it makes it worse for everybody else because they're like, well, they're living that life and I'm not. It's horrible.

You're sitting up your, you're advertising your fake life and consuming the fake lives of others. I got something that's going to blow your mind, actually, on this. Okay, wait, wait, wait, research on that. You got, we got to go, right? Give me one minute and we'll come right back with what's going to blow our minds. more with Arthur Brooks in just a second. Great guy, really super smart.

And I want to talk to him about the free market and the economy if we can get there. Let me tell you about quickly relief factor. Relief factor, if you're in pain, I beg you, just try it. I mean, there are a few commercials that I do that I actually asked for. This one had been sponsoring us for a long time, and I had always turned them down. They wanted my voice, but for three years they advertised and they just gave up. I started taking it because of my wife because she loves me. And she knows better usually.

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on to order more month after month because it works relieffactor.com relieffactor.com 800, 583-84 do it now relief factor dot com back in 10 seconds all right Arthur blow our mind Yeah, man. So I've been studying the effects of social media on happiness. And I really admire the work of a social psychologist at San Diego State University named Gene Twenge, T-W-E-N-G-E. So people can go Google her work. She's really the leading authority on loneliness and social media. Okay, so I talked in the last segment about oxytocin, this neurotransmitter that gives us pleasure when we connect with other people. It comes from eye contact and touch.

That's one of the reasons we're craving it during the lockdown, not enough eye contact, not enough touch. When people want it, what do they do? They turned to the second best substitute, which is social media, to get more of this oxytocin. They don't know they're craving it, but they're going for it. It's kind of like when you're hungry and you're reach for a burger and fries or a candy bar. One of the main reasons for the obesity problem in America is too many calories per nutrient. So the calories and nutrient ratio is all goofed up. So you get too many calories, not enough nutrients.

Your body stays hungry to get the nutrients. It's the same thing with social media. Social media is social junk food. You want oxytocin. You go online, not enough eye contact, not enough touch, which means it's just a trickle of this hormone that your brain is craving. And so you binge on it. Now, the research shows that less than 30 minutes a day,

it makes you happier because you're connecting to your friendships. It is to say it's a compliment. But more than 30 minutes a day becomes a, substitute for your relationships. And every hour you spend on it, you will get lonelier. So this is a mind-blowing thing. You get on it to be less lonely, but it makes you lonelier in much the same way that you can end up getting hungrier from eating the wrong food.

That's not nutrient dense. So what we need to do, if we want to be happier, you've got to get a new technology. Get off social media. And half an hour a day, max, time it out across all platforms and turn it off. then after that, the only technology we should be using to connect is stuff like Zoom and Skype and FaceTime where we can get eye contact with somebody else and we'll get our oxytocin. I have to tell you, Arthur, I hate, I don't carry a phone. I hate talking on the phone, but I love FaceTime. Everybody makes fun of me because if you're going to call Glenn, you got a FaceTime.

And I just, I love it because I feel like I'm having a real conversation. On the phone, it's just, I don't know. I just, it doesn't work for me. I hate it. Well, it makes perfect sense because you're a true people person. You know, you're a person, you have a lot of love for other people. It comes through in your show. It's come through everything that you've done.

And just a minute with you and you feel like you're with somebody who loves you. This is a great gift, by the way. It's a wonderful thing. It's an apostolate, it's a mission, actually. But that also means that you're going to be most prone to these oxytocin deficits. you're going to be most prone to feeling like garbage when you're too isolated. And that means that you're a perfect case for somebody who has to use this technology to get eye contact. All right.

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the second equation is, um, uh, let me see if I can get it here. It's a satisfaction equals, no, no, that's, that's equation three. Where is it? Here it is. Uh, habits equal faith, family friends plus work. And you say it's kind of like a bank. If you, you got to make these into habits and you got to, you got to make a deposit in each of those accounts really every day. And Arthur,

I find that almost impossible to do. It's hard to do. It's interesting, you know, during the break, because we took four or five minutes. And while we were in the break, I checked my messages.

And I'm getting, I'm just getting bombarded by people. because now it's really easy to get my email or on social media asking. It's like, I didn't have a pencil when we wrote that down before. So let me tell people real quickly how you can get this stuff. So you can just enjoy my conversation with Glenn, but at the same time, you can get this stuff. So Glenn is referring to an article in The Atlantic.

I have a column in the Atlantic, which is the Atlantic.com, called How to Build a Life. And so if you just look for the Atlantic in my column, it comes out every other Thursday. And I have a podcast where I talk about all the stuff full-time called The Art of Happiness. So go through the Art of Happiness with Arthur Brooks and just subscribe to the podcast. It's free and go read the articles in Atlantic.

It's free. And now just enjoy my conversation with Glenn. Sorry for the advertisement, Glenn, but that's how people can actually get. No, no, no, that's, I should have been doing that for you. I also, before you hang up, I just leave with my producer. I want to get the name of the person in San Diego. But, let's move on. T-W-E-N-G-E.

And so, yeah, yeah, and that's true for subscribers. Great. Yep. Yep. Okay. All right. Family, faith, friends, and work. I have the hardest time. It's impossible to balance. I've been trying to just to, you know, bring them all together as much as I can. But I'm always short-changing something. I know. And the thing that we tend to not short-change, guys like you and me and a lot of people listening to us, is work. You know, because that's what we do. You never was like, yeah, I forgot to go to work to do. But you'll always say I forgot my prayers today. I forgot to call my mom today. I forgot to call it. I mean, you and I are like, I love Glenn Beck.

And you're like, I want to talk to Arthur Brooks. It's six months between our conversations. That shouldn't be not just because it's good for us to do the show together, but because we're friends. So here's how we do it. And this is the opportunity of the COVID-19 epidemic. This is what we, a lot of us are in locked. I'm in Boston.

So, you know, there's like stay under the bed, be very afraid. We're not getting this. I was just talking to a friend of mine in Idaho, he just sent me a message, and he's out working on a fence. So they have more freedom out there. But one way or the other, we're more locked down than we used to be. So what do we do with that? We have to set up our own schedule. Start at the beginning of the day, putting together your schedule, not put together for you,

and put all four of those accounts in the schedule. You know, it's like, look, I'm going to say my prayers. I'm going to do it today. So I'm Catholic. You know, you're a lot of day saint. we have norms of things that we do. You know, I say my rosary every day. It goes in my schedule.

I pray my rosary. You know, it's like, it's really important. You should actually have an hour at the end of the day where I'm going to face time with these two people, right, and put it into your schedule. So you're taking as seriously your faith and your family and your friendships because, look, we neglect this stuff at our peril. If you put all of your happiness into work,

just like putting your whole pension into Greek, bonds. It might work out, but I don't recommend it. Right. I will tell you the one thing that I have gotten from this lockdown, I'm fortunate enough. I live next door. My kids live next door to me, my older kids. And so we've been locked down as a family.

And just the interaction of me finishing and I'll walk over to their house after the show and I'll be like, hey, what's happening and play with the grandkids? just 15 minutes and then coming back and then seeing them later in the day my world is so balanced right now I'm going to really miss it when I go you know back to work for sure for sure absolutely and if you only do work or as work is a good thing again two characteristics of work to bring your happiness not fame not tower not money I mean that stuff can be okay but it should be about serving others and earning your success. This is, by the way, this is the psychological basis of why I love Democratic capitalism.

Because Democratic capitalism, the capitalist system, which I know we're going to try to get to in this hour, is the only system that allows people to earn their success on a mass basis. You know, the Beck family didn't come on some boat in the late 19th century saying it sure will be great to get to America where there's a better system of forced income redistribution. I mean, the Bex are like, I'm ambitious riffraff. I want to build my life. And, you know, early success, serving others, that's the secret to happiness through work. And if we don't actually pay attention to that, right?

It is also, I think, the secret to why our capitalist system is not functioning the way it should because it is seeking now and giving, you know, how to be, powerful how to be famous, you know, how to make money. When capitalism really works or the free market really works, it is the best charity system out there because I sit at home and I think, how can I serve people? How can I make their life better? How can I, what can I create that will help them with their life? And if you have that moral sentiment of wanting to help people, you'll get rich.

their life will be, you know, easier, and you'll be fulfilled. I mean, it's just a great system. Absolutely. Unless we're pursuing the wrong four goals. If it's money, our future pay, we're in trouble. If it's faith, family, friends, and work that serves others and our success, then everything actually falls into place. And one of the things is, you know, you talk about culture a lot on your show.

And you talk about it really compellingly, because there's sort of a sense of regret of what we lose as a society, not because we move away from capitalism, but because markets require morals, that we actually have to have well-ordered moral sentiments, or the capitalist system won't even work. You know, some people think that you set the markets free and everything's going to be fine. That's wrong. That's actually wrong, unless we have our priorities in order as human beings made to serve each other, lift each other up, to see the adventure in life. basically it's this. Each one of us has a startup. It's called our life. That's the enterprise of life. I mean, by the way, you were leading your, you were doing your startup when you left Fox News. You didn't know what you're going to do. I didn't know you're going to wind up at a warehouse outside of Dallas, making this new empire.

But you were treating Glenn Beck, Inc. as a startup, because that's the true adventure of life. But that comes from a certain way of seeing life. And that's not good enough if it's money, power, pleasure, and fame. So let me talk about the free market and how we can navigate these tough times. Arthur, I think you'll agree. These are what we are going into are going to be the roughest economically of our lifetime. This is probably going back to depression. And we can do it, although I don't think we have enough people.

in Washington that believe in the American people to free them. And we are doing all kinds of things that go against the free market. I've been pushing for America to be called an economic, what was it, Stu, an economic empowerment zone, that we are, that we relax some of these things and encourage people to get back to work. But I think the opposite. is is also being pushed. How do we how do we navigate these without eating each other and and without losing our freedoms?

Well, to begin with, we should remember, I mean, people are saying that this is an indictment of capitalism, what's actually happening during the COVID-19 epidemic. And that's, of course, ridiculous. I mean, I know. I mean, the whole, you know, what's going on today with an more abundant economy and, you know, people not being able to do what they need to do with their work. That's like any Tuesday in socialism. You know, this is the exception to the rule and capitalism.

And it's worth pointing out that only capitalism is going to save us. Nobody thinks that some dictatorship is going to develop the COVID-19 vaccine. That's coming from capitalism. You know, we may be messy. We may be, you know, like protesting all the time and not being able to get along. Sure. that's because we have a lot of freedom. But we will solve this crisis,

and we will solve this for the rest of the world, mark my words. Now, what do we need to remember about ourselves, remember about our culture? It's very important for us to remember that only we can save our economy from what has happened, and that requires each of us to put our ore in the water.

You know, the whole idea that the government is going to be able to support people forever is insane. You know, I'm glad that we have public policies that can create a safety net. I'm a big believer in the safety net. I love the safety net. but only capitalism made the safety net possible. You know, the first time in history,

we've been able to take care of our brothers and sisters in need that we haven't met. That's because of the large Jeff and wealth that actually comes from the capitalist system. It's also the case that, you know, we will come out of this. And the only reason we're going to come out of this is because of hard work and human endeavor and the startup of our own lives, you know, getting that going again.

And so we must not stand in the way of that as a government or as a people. So when, you know, everybody's, talking about opening up the economy, et cetera. And I think I read FDR's only thing to fear of fear itself speech just a couple of nights ago. And I think we're in the same place where really it is our fear that is stopping us. And fear is being preached everywhere now. How do we open this up?

I mean, because we got to get back into doing stuff. but people are are afraid and in some ways rightfully so yeah no the fear comes from uncertainty you know if we actually knew what the possible outcomes are and had probabilities on them we can insure against that's called risk the whole insurance industry right but there's no on that insurance you can't find insurance policy against uncertainty and that a little part of the brain called the amygdala they get stimulated and gives you you know discomfort when you're and it kept you alive i mean all of us are alive i mean all of us are alive today because we jump out of the way of a moving car.

But when it's chronically stimulated by our circumstances, we're fearful and we're unhappy and we're uncomfortable and that's what's going on. Okay, now here's the solution. Here's the antidote. And again, I'm an economist, but I wind up doing this happiness work because it's more fulfilling at the end of the day. And one of the things that we know is that the opposite of fear is love. People think that love and hatred are opposites.

they're not. Hatred is downstream from fear. So when you have too much fear in your life, and a lot of people are really fearful, the answer is not to try to stomp out the fear. You need to drown it in love. And so this is what we actually need. And so it gets back to the early part of our conversation about oxytocin and loneliness or relationships and faith and family and friends. It all comes into this, you know, seamless garment of truth, which is that if we feel fear,

we need more love. And that's the only thing that's going to solve the problem. And this is why Martin Luther King won. Yeah, that's right. You know, we have a fear-based- He was preaching love when, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, and, you know, right now, we have very much of a fear-based politics,

and it proceeds pretty predictably from the 2008 financial crisis where a lot of politicians are basically saying, you know, be afraid of the other guy, you know, somebody's got your stuff, and I'm going to get it back. You know, I understand that rhetoric, but it can't last forever. Ultimately, I mean, look, you and I have strong views. We're premarketeers. We believe in a better society, and we promote the American military because America is a force

for good in the world and all that. But it's on the basis of the love for our society, the love for our country, love for each other. And indeed, even the love for the people who disagree with us politically and people run the world who disagree with us, it's not based on fear of anything. I mean, America is not a fearful country. And so that's what we need. all of us in leadership positions, which includes, by the way, not just Glenn and Arthur,

but every single person who's listening is a leader. You have the leadership capability. Use it for love, and you will be part of the reason that we solve the crisis from the COVID-19 epidemic. Arthur Brooks. His series is in the Atlantic, How to Build a Life. You can also follow him at Arthur Brooks.com. He has a podcast, The Art of Happiness, that is well-worked. your time. And if you are at home and you've watched everything on Netflix, you think you haven't

seen one of the best documentaries, I think, made on the free market. And it is called The Pursuit. And it's by Arthur. And he takes you all around the world. And it is. You want to debunk of the socialism in Sweden. Watch the pursuit. Watch that on Netflix. Arthur, thank you. And let's let's not have six months between our next conversation. Thank you so much. I agree, Glenn. God bless you. God bless.

You bet. Bye-bye. Such a great guy. Such a great guy. All right. Life lock. I don't want to inject fear. Well, no.

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It's the Glenn Beck program. Tonight, we are doing an expose on Joe Biden and Tara Reid. You're going to have to decide, you know, who's telling the truth. And what do you do with that when you don't, No for sure. Well, we'll talk about that tonight, but I want to introduce you to the seven accusers. Stu says there's nine,

but let's go through them one by one and Tara Reid as well, because voters three to one say the press should be covering this, and they're not. Three to one in the latest poll. Joe Biden is our topic in one minute. This is the Glymbeg program. So I'm going to tell you that I put my money where my mouth is. Yesterday I called and I acquired some of gold lines, $5 Liberty Coins.

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anywhere right now. Call Goldline. 866 Goldline, 1-866 Goldline or Goldline.com. Voters 3 to 1 say the national media is not aggressive enough reporting Joe Biden's sexual assault allegations. When you look at another poll, a new poll out, shows 26% now of Democrats want Joe Biden to be replaced because of this. 26% say he's got to go. So let's break this poll down here for a second before we get into the facts.

61% of Democrats believe that Biden appeared very credible or somewhat credible during his interview with Morning Joe, where he denied the allegation. 61% of Democrats somewhat credible. Only 61% when you when you have 40% of the American Democratic Party saying he's not credible on this. Do you have a viable candidate, honestly? 26% of the Democratic Party would move to replace Biden after watching the video. 61% say they found his denial at least somewhat credible and should remain the nominee.

The number includes 28% of Democratic women. Only 28% say that he should remain, really? Younger women voters are the most likely to want. want Biden replaced as the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party, 40% of voters under 45 agreeing that she should be replaced, 40% under 45, and 15% of older voters say he should be replaced. Among general voters, so this would include the Republicans and the independence. If you don't get independence, you don't win. Among general voters, Only 41% say they found his denials somewhat credible or very credible versus 38% that say it's not credible at all.

This is going to be a problem because he's badly polarized on this. And, you know, when you have two candidates and they're both polarized, you don't usually make a change. You're like, I'm not going to change horses. I know what this guy is. And I may not like this guy, but I know what this guy is. And we're fine. If you don't believe that, you know, we're fine under Donald Trump, well, then you're going to vote for really, probably anybody.

But when you have two guys and one is Joe Biden, and it's of the Democratic Party, it exposes the Democratic Party for who they are, It exposes the media for who they are. And it would expose you. I think there's, I think there is 25 to 50% of the voting public. No, 50's too high. 25 to 35% of voters in America that would go, you know what?

I just, I'm not going to sell me out. This is, it bothers me and will pass on him. That's going to be a problem. Yeah, I think people will. overlook a lot when casting a vote here. A lot of people have their minds made up on Trump. You know, this is a pretty partisan country at this moment. You know, we've been even seeing evidence lately of people coming out and saying, I believe Tara Reid and her assault accusation, but I'm still going to be voting for Joe Biden, which is, what are you saying

about yourself when you're saying, hey, you know who would be okay for me to endorse as a candidate, a rapist? That is a, that's a, it's a hell of a, a standard to set for yourself. Yeah, if you believe, unlike, I mean, what Donald Trump said, you know, on that bus years ago, was really offensive. But that was really sick, over the top guy talk. Now, that doesn't mean that that didn't, you know, he said that's what he did, but, you know, guys say a lot of stuff. But this is the accusation is from a woman that.

Joe actually did that and then some. Yeah. I mean, that's a real problem. I know of zero Trump supporters who voted for Donald Trump that believe those allegations that he committed sexual assault. You might have this idea that, oh, well, they're fooling themselves into believing Trump. That's fine. But at least they're doing the work on that.

You know, Democrats at this point are like, yeah, you know, he's probably a rapist, but I don't really like Donald Trump. So I'm going to vote for the. the rapist. And I think like there's Donald Trump, it was, I don't, I don't like, I don't like the way he talks. I don't like what he said. I don't, but it's not the allegation that was believable, uh, of what Joe Biden is being accused of. Yeah. I mean, there is a difference here. There were allegations against Trump as the, the left likes to point out in these moments, but, uh, you know, look, you have to do your own work and try to believe what you believe. Um, I think the issue here is a candidate as you get close to an.

election is you can't have major reasons for people to not vote for you in this environment. And the Democrats, they'll deny this all day, but the Democrats already have the idea in their head that Joe Biden doesn't seem capable of doing this job. That is already there. They don't think Donald Trump is capable either. So they're able to hold on to their vote for Biden right now. But if you start piling these things on top of each other, he's incompetent. he may have actually sexually assaulted a woman and now is doing all the things that we said

were terrible. All this scrutiny about her character. All these questions about her claims. All of these things that are going on now that you have set the standard that were not these things should not even be allowed in polite society as of two weeks ago. And now you're having to justify and backtrack on all these things that you said. People hate doing that. And so they're trying to find their little pathway.

into continuing to be able to justify this vote for Biden. And if you keep piling things like this on top of each other, they're not going to be able to find it. Yeah, well, they will find another reason. Nobody wants to admit that the standard that they've been holding up that has destroyed people's lives is the wrong standard. Nobody wants to be that wrong. Only the real brave will.

So they will find another reason. And it could just be the strong. straw that breaks the camel's back. I mean, if you look at the eight accusers in front of me, you have Amy Cole helping run a reception for about 50 people in 2008. Biden arrived. She introduced, they introduced him to her. He leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her for a beat too long. Okay. I think he's just kind of a creepy dude. That doesn't, that's not assault.

Number seven, Amy Lapos, former congressional aid, Democratic political activist, claimed that during the 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich, he touched her inappropriately. She said it wasn't sexual, but he grabbed me by the head. He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth. I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because it was the vice president and I'm a nobody. Wow, is that a problem? Caitlin Caruso said four years ago, the age of 19, survivor of sexual assault, spoke at an event on sexual assault, University of Las Vegas when Biden was attending.

After she shared her experience of sexual assault, Biden rested his hand on her thigh. Even though she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort, he hugged her just a little too long. it doesn't even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetrate harm like that, she said. These are supposed to be the people that you can trust. Okay. So, again, just inappropriate and possibly just a creepy dude, but not sexual assault. Also consistent with each other, right? Like all these claims are very consistent.

Yeah. And all of the pictures, you know, of him sniffing hair and saying really creepy things to girls but that again is you have to make the decision is that just an old man who this because this is his excuse look I grew up in a different age blah blah I'm sorry I even if I buy that grandpa you know you can't continue to do that you know when everybody had somebody in their in family growing up I mean depending on your age if you're at least my age you had somebody growing up that was you know older in the 60s in the 70s and they were still like you know talking about colored you know or whatever and you know they may not have

had any malice it's just the world they grew up in and at some point you were like grandpa stop saying that you got to stop saying that you know and this time grandpa's going to be the president of the United States and we keep saying to him, hey, stop hugging people, rubbing noses with them and saying really creepy things to girls. He just won't stop. That's the problem. So then you have a former White House intern. She said she was there in 2013. She was trying to exit the basement of the West Wing when she was asked to step aside. Biden approached her, shook her hand and introduced himself. During the encounter, she said, Biden put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead and said,

what a pretty girl. Ooh, Grandpa, stop. Lucy Flores wrote an essay. She was working for Biden in 2014 just before speeches. We were ushered to the side of the stage where we were lined up for introduction. I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd.

I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. Why is the vice president in the United States touching me? I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, I didn't even wash my hair today. And the vice president is smelling it.

And also, what in the actual F? Why is he doing this? She said. My brain couldn't process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. Then you have the next.

accuser Sophie. Sophie was one of 50 sexual assault survivors. She appeared on stage with Lady Gaga at the Oscars, blah, blah, blah, when met and heard about her, you know, her experiences, he responded by clasping her hands and leaning down to place his forehead against hers. The moment was photographed and went viral. She said, he just crossed the boundary into my personal space at a very sensitive moment. He emphasized that he wanted to connect with people, and of course, that's important. But then again, all of our interactions and friendships are two-way street. Too often, it doesn't matter how the woman feels. Okay, so all of those are things that you could dismiss. You could just say, okay, grandpa, stop it. You could dismiss that. But those things added on top of what Tara Reid said and some of the other

accusers now that are coming out, because there's a couple of other, that 14-year-old girl, whose I think mother said, no, it was the wrong year maybe. But remember, facts don't even matter. They didn't even know where the house was or anything else with what's her name on Kavanaugh. They had nothing. They didn't know the date. They didn't know the year. This 14-year-old girl said she was really humiliated in lockstep with the others.

Tara Reeds is the only one that steps out and is out of the norm to where it's an actual assault. And it's a bad description of an assault. Now, the media won't tell you both sides of this story. They won't look at this honestly and say, okay, so who is Tara Reid? What are the conditions that have to be met, you know, to be credible? Who's Joe Biden? and was he there, all of these things. We've done our homework.

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She couldn't hold out any longer. And her stylists, many of them were hurting. Now, not all of them returned. They were doing social distancing. They were wearing masks, everything else. But a judge in Dallas said, no, and issued a cease and desist. And she was on television. She said, no, I'm sorry.

I'm keeping my business open. and she tore that cease and desist in half. Well, that pissed the judge off. We're going to play some audio for you from the court hearing yesterday. She's in jail today for opening her business. By the way, salons can open Monday. So she was about 10 days ahead. She's in jail today.

And when you hear the judge, what an egomaniac and out of touch, in my opinion. But we have her attorney on. find out, you know, what's in store now? What's, what's happening? And to get his take on all of this, we'd like to talk to her. But she's in jail. What is happening to Texas? Good heavens.

And if it's happening in Texas, I can't even imagine what your life is like in Michigan or Virginia or California. I could go on New York, Connecticut. I mean, what is life like? We have got to get back to some of our founding principles. All right. We return with that and an update on the meat situation in the country as well. A shortage of meat.

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this is in the bizarre trial of a woman who just tried to open up her salon here in Dallas because she was about to lose her salon, she couldn't keep it closed any longer, and many of the stylists were really having a hard time finding enough money to be able to feed their families. So she opened it up last last what was to say? Sorry, I'm so distracted on something else. She opened it up last week. She got a cease and assist. She tore the cease and assist up and said, I'm sorry, I'm going to, I have a right to keep my shop open.

She went to trial. And here's what the judge said to her yesterday. Listen to this. That you now see the error of your way. and understand that the society cannot function where one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials, that you owe an apology to the elected officials whom you disrespected by flagrantly ignoring and in one case defiling their orders, which you now know obviously apply to you.

that you understand that the proper way in which in an ordered society to engage concerns which you may have had is to hire a lawyer and advocate for change, an exception or an amendment to laws that you find offensive, that you publicly state that this is the way that citizens in the state should behave. And that you represent to this court that you will today cease operation of your salon. and not reopen until after further orders of the government permit you to do so. This court will consider the payment of a fine in lieu of the incarceration, which you've demonstrated that you have so clearly earned. Is there anything that you would like to say? So that's what she had to do, and she responded with this. Judge, I would like to say that I have much respect for this court and loss.

And that I've never been in this position before. And it's not some place that I want to be. But I have to disagree with you, sir, when you say that I'm selfish, because feeding my kids is not selfish. I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon. Okay, stop.

So she, she, he wanted an apology. That's what he wanted. And, uh, she's sitting in jail now today. Her attorney is with us. Warren Norred, uh, he is the attorney who was by her side yesterday. How, first of all, how is she today? Have you talked to her? Not had a chance to talk to her.

we're in the process of setting that up, sitting in our account set up. It takes a few minutes when somebody first goes to jail. And there's no bail, right? No, there's no bail. And so, we have a remedy, and the remedy is, the sole remedy is a writ of habeas corpus.

And so we're in the process of writing that, and then we'll file an emergency motion to set bail before the Supreme Court. And I hope to have that filed this afternoon. So have you ever seen a judge say, apologize or I'm sending you to jail.

I have never seen that. You know, it reminds me of the, that you got to bend the knee. You know, this is about heresy. This is not about the rule of law. You have stood before this court and found guilty of disrespect. Even though, and it's one thing as she was saying, no, I don't like you. I don't think that you have any authority. And, you know, but that's not it.

This is somebody, she's a humble woman. She's had, you know, in situations like this, you see a lot of egos go crazy. but she's been great. And she understands where she is and she understands she's the tip of the spear. You know, she represents hundreds of people that are in the same exact boat because politicians are passing laws by executive authority instead of the standard normal procedure what they're supposed to use. So they're not following the rule of law, but she's supposed to. Right. And so because she didn't break a law.

Did she? I mean, these aren't laws that have been passed. What did they convict her on? This is a good question. They say that she's breaking what they're calling an ordinance, but it's the fourth amended emergency regulations that's passed by nobody, but simply uttered by the mayor of Dallas, and he gets his authority supposedly by leaning on the county judge Clay Jenkins,

who gets his authority supposedly by leaning on the executive order of the governor. So all of these people are passing up and down this nebulous authority. When our Constitution, the state of Texas says Article 4, Section 8, if you want to deal with disease threat, and it uses that clause, disease threat in the Constitution, you call a special session. You make all the laws you want. It does not say what they're all doing is they're all going to the Disaster Act in 1975 that delegated a bunch of power in the case of emergency. and it's far too far gone. It's one thing if we had this going for just a few seconds, a few days, even a week or two. But now we're two months into this.

At some point, we have to go back to the rule of law for the government, not just for us. Warren, I have to tell you, I don't know what's happening to us as a nation. And I think we are headed for real trouble because it's one thing to say, like you said, for a couple of weeks. And then ask people, look, we recommend that you do this and we just really need your cooperation. And if they choose not to do it, it's their right. But these people are being forced out of business. She was only what? Six days early, 10 days early.

Salons open tomorrow. And is it true? Go ahead. Well, the problem is that one of the issues is that is the governor and all these people are making these rules, they look at it from the perspective of, do you need a haircut? Instead of looking at the perspective of, do people need money to live? You know, the Ag Commissioner came out and had a letter that said, everybody who's in the flow of the chain of distribution of food is essential.

Who's the last link on that chain? The person eating the food. So what about his job? Shouldn't that job be just as essential? They're all essential. And the problem is that the executives that are making these decisions are not thinking through what this really does to people. And so you get these strange incongruities. A liquor store is essential. A daycare, you know, where three-year-olds are eating each other snot, that's essential.

And you can do all that. But to say that a state-registered hairstylist has 1,500 hours, according to the state, to learn how to handle her clients hygienically, it's impossible. No, we can't let that happen. have to put people in jail before we allow people to earn a living. So that's the problem with law by executive order when you don't do things right over a period of time. And she was, she was operating safely. It wasn't a jam-packed salon. In fact, all of the hairstylists did not return. They were wearing masks, right? Right. The general rules, wearing masks. Of course, what's really, what's tragically ironic is that the cops that come in, they weren't wearing masks. first time. She had to tell them, no, you got to put mask on. They had to go back to their car and get the

mask. So, yeah, this is, the rules are as I make them up as I go along, and, and then we're going to decide how to treat you if you don't bend the knee and follow our rules. So it's a, it's a natural consequence of not following the rules for the government that they cause laws that force other people to look like they're guilty. Is it true that the governor called her just a few days ago and talked to her about how to open salons or did he have any contact with her at all? The governor has had agents, and I'm aware of this, that have talked to her and there's been some interaction between all of those folks. I don't think that she actually talked to the governor himself, but she did talk to the two agents of the governor. And I know that the things

that we've all talked about wound up being what the governor announced yesterday, which was by is still disappointing. What is the difference between today versus Friday? The problem is the governor's not looking at what's really going on. There are hundreds of salons and gyms all over the state, and a lot of them have called me that said, look, can you help me out? Because I've got this code enforcement guy that's coming by and harassing me all the time. And so those people are still left in the lurch for a while.

Even today, even with the newest order, you have 51% restaurants and bars that could operate as a restaurant, but because they have the 51 percent, they're not allowed to operate as a restaurant. So what happened there? Well, people create an executive order. They're doing the best they can. They have limited time, and they're making mistakes. And so all of the bar restaurants that could operate as restaurants can't operate, even though all the other normal restaurants can. So you get these incongruities because you're not passing laws. If you want to pass laws, you call a special session. Or you just stop doing that. that. The governor could also just say, look, everybody operates at 25%. Everybody operates at 25%.

Because is every daycare essential? Is every Home Depot essential? All of these jobs, we need access to all these organizations. But if he had simply said, look, everybody, look at your certificate of occupancy, and whatever it says, take that number to 25% of it. That way you don't have to worry about your impact on churches, because churches are impact. because that's rational and you're not sitting them apart. That way all the essential businesses are impacted, that way everybody can earn a living or at least make some attempt to hold on. But this picking and choosing where condomsense, for example, is allowed to operate

because they put medical devices underneath their sign. I kid you not. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Right. That's a fact. Okay, so liquor stores, full bore, do what you want. So it turns into a class knobbery.

The vape shops, well, sorry, even though you're a consumer-like. electronics, you don't get to operate. So you get, you get this vague notions of, hmm, it seems like the businesses I like liquor stores, because they sell my wine, they get to operate. But do you see liquor stores on the president's list or on the, on the governor's list? No, that's just something everybody's just decided. We like liquor stores. And so, you know, there's no rhyme or reason for it. So, Warren, where is this going to go? I mean, I think we are headed for litigation against and investigations as well. I mean, our Attorney General has already said it. He's looking into all of these cases. Where's this going? It's going to depend. What I want

everybody to do is to remember this day and the anger that we feel this day when it comes time to vote in November. We all get so agitated and you get the keyboard warriors. They're pounding out, you know, amazing, you know, pieces. But when it comes time for ordinary people, just to do something as simple as go vote in the November elections and the city council elections that everybody is sleepy about, you know, 10% turnout. These people have so much control over our lives that, and we just go back to sleep. So people have to remember these times and remember that. As far as this is concerned, we're going to file our application for rid of habeas corpus, and we're going to try to get Shelly out of there as soon as possible, because, you know, she's a rock star.

She's a real hero. People call all the time. It's a principal of the thing. And then you say, well, you know, I don't know how this is going to go. You may have to go to jail. And well, I don't go to jail. And that's the end of it. And so I told her, look, you could go to jail if this goes awry.

And she said, I have to do this. We've got to get going. She has one salonist, a stylist that came in from Midland because she was starving in Midland. Because she was starving in Midland, but she saw that Shelly was operating. So she called She came up. She was one of the chairs. Because they were all brave. You've got to show up, you're risking getting a ticket.

I know another salon that called me. Four of their people got cited. So these are all unsophisticated people. They don't know what's going on happen to them. They can be put in jail for six months. And of course, so that's what this is all about, is just setting the stage and setting an example, making an example at a Shelley Luther so that everybody understands,

if you stand up and say, no, your rule of law is not your rule of law. It's not really even an ordinance. you are you are enforcing a bunch of nebulous things so yeah yeah that's you got to stand up it is it it's it's astounding what is happening because as you say it is not law warren thank you so much i appreciate it and godspeed let us know how we can help all right i want to talk to you about our sponsor to covis these are the best western boots i mean they're just really really great started by a couple of guys here in texas who are like why why why are boots so expensive Well, they're handmade. They're, you know, the best exotic leathers, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But why are they so expensive? Well, one of the reasons is because there was a middleman. You had to have, everybody had to have their, you know, their take. So they decided it, Tukovus, that they could do some things without cutting any corners and mainly by cutting out the middleman and going directly to you. And you could save a buttload of money on a great pair of boots.

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