The Glenn Beck Program - JD Vance Tells Glenn About Iran, the Pope & His Faith Journey | Guest: Vice President JD Vance | 6/16/26
Episode Date: June 16, 2026Glenn starts the show by talking with Vice President JD Vance, who discusses his new book, "Communion: Finding My Way Back to Faith," which explores his path back to a relationship with God. Glenn and... VP Vance also discuss juggling being Catholic despite the church being led by a pope who seems to be on the opposite side of the political aisle. Lastly, Glenn asks VP Vance to elaborate on the difficulties of negotiating with Iran, as a peace deal has reportedly been struck. Glenn brings in Jason to dissect VP Vance's remarks on Iran. Glenn reacts to all the foreign travelers who are coming to America for the FIFA World Cup who are amazed and impressed by American culture. Glenn discusses the terrifying drone plot thwarted by the FBI to strike buildings near President Trump's UFC America 250 event over the weekend. How coordinated was this planned attack? Glenn gives a lengthy monologue on the weaponization of power and warns against allowing the government to gain even more control in the name of safety. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. It is Tuesday. I want to get right to our guest because it is the
vice president of the United States. It's J.D. Vance. I've got to talk to him about many, many things,
but he has a new book out called Communion, Finding My Way Back to Faith, which I think is a very
important book at this time, especially even if you're just trying to understand the vice president,
who may become our next president of the United States, at least we'll be running for it. And also the
times in which we live. We get to that. And the Iranian things here in just a minute, let me
introduce the 50th vice president of the United States, J.D. Vance and his new book, Communion,
finding my way back to faith. J.D., you and I, when I'm reading your book, we have an awful
lot in common. Your mother, I'm a big fan of Hillbilly Elegy. I mean, what an amazing story.
Your mother was an addict. My mother was an addict. Your mom had a happy ending. My mom had a happy ending.
mom did not. Your father, you were estranged when, when you died. It was a lot more severe than
mine. I was estranged with my father when he died. And there was so many, so many things that add
complexities to your life when you go through all of that. And I hope we have a chance to have a
longer interview to kind of get into that. But I want to, I want to start with a part of the
book where you talk about where you committed to Christ, you were in a cathedral and you noticed that
everything was kind of falling apart, the whole world was falling apart, and you committed. Can you
talk a little bit about the moment you chose to commit? Yeah, Glenn. So this is back in the summer
of, I think, 2018. And if you remember the time was, you know, I eventually became a baptized
Catholic and very bad time for the Catholic Church. There was a very bad sex abuse scandal that was
getting reported on in Pennsylvania. And, you know, there was just this sense that, yeah, I was
curious in Christ. I was curious about Christianity, but I wasn't yet ready to commit. And I was
there with my son, actually. I was in this cathedral. It was beautiful. It was completely empty. And I felt
this kind of sense of despair at first because, you know, no one was there in this beautiful old church
No one was there. There was nobody praying. It felt almost lifeless. And then there was just this beautiful sort of array of light that came through the stained glass windows. And it was the perfect time of day to where, you know, you could see the dust and the light. And I just, I felt this sense. It's difficult to explain. I'm not saying it's rational. But I felt this sense that, you know, yes, the church is going through a tough spot, but things are going to be okay. And I belong here. And that was sort of the moment that I decided, you know,
know what, for all of my belly aching and back and forth and here are the reasons why to do it
and not to do it, like, this is my home and I'm going to try to make this home as successful as
possible and contribute as much as I can. And that's what I did. That was the moment I made the
decision. Okay, so that seems like a commitment to the church. Is that the same as the moment
to follow Christ? Did that come first and then the commitment to the church or are the same thing
to you? Well, I would say that the decision to follow Christ was gradual. You know, there was,
I was raised in sort of an unchurched, but very devout household. My grandmother would take us to church
every now and then, but not regularly. I didn't feel like I had a church home. And so I became, as a
teenager, sort of an early 20s kid, like a lot of kids who were raised in that, in that background,
but weren't properly formed in a real faith community. You know, sort of an arrogant atheist. I was
one of these people who thought that I knew better. And I went about trying to achieve every
marker of worldly success. You know, I wanted to go to the best schools and I wanted to have the
best job. I wanted to make the most money. I wanted something prestigious to hang my hat on.
And I kind of got to this point where I had won all of these elite competitions. I was at Yale
Law School. Things were going very well for me personally. And I was kind of looking around and saying,
you know what? Those people that I dismissed as simpletons, they're much happier and much healthier and
much more interesting people than the elite crew that I seem to be joining. And if they have
something that's that's kind of anchoring them, maybe there's something deeper to what's going on here.
Maybe the inspiration for their character and their wisdom is this Jesus Christ figure that I'd
kind of discarded. And so that was not like a conversion on the road to Damascus. That was me
slowly seeing reflections of Christian truth and the way that various Christians live their
lives and the way that they raised their families. And over time, I just started to think, you know what,
there's something real here. And then when you decide that there's something real here, then I think
I wanted to give my family what I didn't have as a kid, which is a real formation, like an actual
church community. And I kind of, you know, experimented with different churches and went to a number of
different places and eventually, you know, found the home in a church that we love. And that's kind of
where we are, where we are today.
you your story is just absolutely you're one of the most fascinating guys i think alive today your story
is just fascinating um you talk in the book about peter teal um and you wrote peter gave voice to something
i'd been feeling but not fully understood i was obsessed with achievement per se not accomplishing
something meaningful but to win a social competition um i think that's what you just addressed
people will say your relationship with Peter Thiel is all about high-tech.
Some uncharitably will say that, you know, he funded your campaign,
and so you're going to usher in a new, you know, high-tech oligarchy.
But it seems that your relationship is more spiritual.
Is that, was that accurate reading in this?
Yeah, so one of the things that happened, so Peter was a friend of mine before, you know,
we sort of ever were talking about politics. But one of the things, and by the way, Peter's a very
unorthodox Christian. Like, I want to be fair on that account. Right. You know, he's very like
unconditional views about a whole host of things. Sometimes I disagree with him. Sometimes I agree with him.
But what Peter sort of almost gave me permission is that I was in law school. I was calling myself an
atheist at the time. And, you know, he came and gave a talk and he talked more about spirituality and
religion than he did about business or politics. And I sort of realized, like, whether you agree or
disagree with this guy, his Christianity is much more interesting than the atheism of the people
that I see surrounding me. Like, there's something there that I kind of dismissed as a kid. And that
started me down, again, this way of sort of re-exploring and rediscovering my own faith. But, you know,
definitely, you know, seeing this guy who was smarter than anybody I had met, who was obviously
very wealthy, very successful, sort of realizing that this idea that I had in my head that Christianity
was for superstitious people and atheism was for smart people. And that was the kind of the,
that was the categorization that I had made falsely. And there were a lot of people, Peter was one of them,
but there were a lot of people who slowly over time revealed that to be fundamentally an arrogance
that was deeply corrosive to my own soul.
you you are in a religion and a political party i think that is hard to square at times
um because of the pope you and marco you know you have things you have to do as the president
of the or vice president of the united states um your foreign policy objectives in iran the pope
is against uh the you know what you have to do on immigration you view it one way he views it
another way, even now, I mean, the press is even saying, you know, the fraud task force initiative is, you know, an attempt again just to target Somalis.
How do you, how do you thread that needle with the, with the Pope, a guy who seems to not appreciate what you believe politically, and yet he's your spiritual leader?
Well, I think a couple things. First of all, I think this is true of sort of all, of sort of all Christian.
Christianity is you have, you know, certain people who are going to disagree politically with what
me or the president or Secretary Ruby or anybody else does, and they're going to try to say
you're not being Christian enough. And one interesting thing is that often those criticisms are
made by people who say, I don't believe in Jesus, but you're not being Christian enough, which I
always roll my eyes at a little bit. Now, obviously that's not true of the Pope. The Pope is explicitly
the leader of the Catholic Church. I'll say two things about the Pope, Glenn. So the first is that
oftentimes I find that when the media reports on him as an antagonist of Donald Trump,
or somebody who just rejects wholesale everything that Donald Trump says,
and then I'll read what he actually says, and I realize the Pope does sometimes have disagreements,
but he's actually much more nuanced and much more subtle than what the media gives him credit for.
They want to play up the conflict.
But even on the immigration issue, yes, he's criticized some of the policy directions that we've taken,
but he's also said it's right for a nation to have borders,
that newcomers have a duty to integrate into their host cultures.
Like, those are things I very much agree with.
The media doesn't talk about that because it's driving the narrative of conflict,
but I actually think the Pope's thinking on how to apply, you know,
Christian teaching to the world today is much more complicated than the left-right media spectacle drives home.
You know, when I saw the cover of the book a few weeks ago,
I just looked at it quickly.
I thought it was communism.
I was like, oh, he's going to write a book on communism.
And it's communion is the name of the book, not communism.
At a time when a vice president, you know,
should be talking about communism, et cetera, et cetera,
that's the obvious thought.
Why is it important that you wrote a book on communion?
Well, because, one, I obviously had a very complicated,
but I think in some ways a very common way to finding my own faith, where I was raised Christian, fell away from it, and came back to it.
I mean, now I think a lot, and I think a lot of Christian parents are asking themselves the question,
why is it that we, or maybe they've raised a kid who's fallen away from the faith, or maybe they're raising children in the faith,
and they're sort of thinking about why didn't that stick, or how do I make it stick, so that they don't have the same journey that I did?
I think there are a lot of people, especially in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination,
who are thinking about spirituality, who are going back to church.
We see a lot of young people in particular who are returning to church.
But maybe like me, they didn't have the proper formation.
And so I thought that this was something important that I wanted to say.
It's obviously not a very political book.
It's not a conventional politician's book.
It's not like I have the eight-point policy proposal in the final chapter to solve all the problems.
but I just thought it was something that was valuable and meaningful to say.
I've been writing this book for 10 years, and I kind of had this moment of, well,
I'm either going to publish it now or I'm never going to publish this thing,
so I might as well just get it out there, say what I need to say.
And obviously, you know, people are going to take from it what they will.
But the one thing I'd ask, Glenn, is that, you know, if you find it meaningful, great.
But I think that there are so many different pathways to Christ.
And I think, you know, for some people, it's the Pentecostal church that my dad called home.
For some people, it's the Southern Baptist Church that a lot of my friends call home.
I think what's really cool and dynamic about American Christianity is that we're sort of forced to reckon with a lot of very complicated issues
because our faith is constantly being challenged, both by non-Christians, but also I think importantly by our fellow Christians who are asking very important questions about the meaning and nature of God.
That's what I love about the American Church.
And that's one of the things that I hope to contribute to in some small way.
So I have to ask you a couple of questions on Iraq, or I'm sorry, on Iran.
Sure.
We are supposedly, we have now apparently electronically signed a peace deal.
We don't know what is in it yet.
You've come out and said, you know, some of the things are wrong that are being said.
How do you negotiate with an apocalyptic end times-twelver regime?
And what makes you confident that we can, as the president has said on the outset,
get no support for proxies, end of the missile program, and no nukes.
Do we have those, and how do you lock them in with, I'll be honest, crazy people that think
they're living in the end times?
Let me say a few things about this.
First of all, Glenn, you know, the president is, I mean, one of the most important lessons
that he's given me an international negotiation or anything is you don't trust anybody.
I don't trust the words.
I don't trust the commitments that they have committed.
to stop funding terrorism and to stop, you know, building or buying a nuclear weapon.
Those commitments are there, but I trust people's actions.
And so the way that we set up that deal, given the president's directives, is if they perform
the things that they say they're going to perform, then they get a lot of relief.
And if they don't perform any of those things, then they get nothing.
And for the United States, either way, Glenn, we're in a great position.
They don't get one cent of American money regardless of how this deal takes place.
They don't get any sanctions relief unless they perform, but we got the Straits of Hormuz open.
Oil is now down below $80 today.
We have their military still destroyed, their defense industrial base still destroyed, their nuclear program still destroyed.
And now the president's saying, you know what, if you want to behave like a normal country,
we're going to treat you like a normal country.
And if not, the United States still has all the cards, and there's no skin off our back for entering into this negotiation.
And no support for proxies.
of the missile program and no nukes for sure.
Correct, Glenn.
And if they don't do that, then they don't get any of the benefits of the bargain.
And that's really the whole point here.
Is I keep on sort of hearing people say, well, the Iranians get this or the Iranians get that.
And they miss out the part where the Iranians get some sanctions relief, you know,
the ability to sell their oil, for example, if they do what they promised they would do.
That's the fundamental point of this deal is we reward good behavior.
We don't do anything if the Iranians don't meet there into the bargain.
So I like your stance on, you know, you're a very big skeptic on military interventionalism, as I am.
We have to learn our lessons from the 20th century.
As a Christian, however, it is hard to watch a regime slaughter its own people who are just to use an American term,
yearning to breathe free.
We hoped that we would be able to have, you know, a free people in Iran by the end of this.
it doesn't look like that is part of the plan at all.
Can that be done without military interventional, without regime change, which I don't want,
you don't want, Trump doesn't want?
Well, I think what the president has said is one, we've given the Iranian people an opportunity
here.
Their military is substantially weaker.
I mean, it's effectively gone.
Their conventional military is effectively gone.
If the Iranian people want to rise up and make, you know, their own country or make
their own political future, then obviously the President of the United States would be happy to
deal with whatever new government they produce, but we're not going to force that on anybody.
I think this is what is fundamentally different from Trump's foreign policy compared to,
you know, Barack Obama's or George W. Bush's is we will empower people on the ground who yearn
to breathe free, but we're not going to force them to do what, you know, we're not going to
force them to elect their own government. What we're going to do is pursue our best interests.
And what did the United States want out of this?
We wanted an Iran that didn't have a nuclear weapon.
We wanted an Iran that had a conventional military that it was not able to threaten its allies in the region.
And that's what we got.
And so the president is saying we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish, we accomplished what we needed to.
I think it's actually a great virtue and wisdom of the president's foreign policy that he's not now saying, you know what?
Now we're going to go do something else that's not related to our core national security objectives.
he's saying, we got what we came for.
Let's negotiate with these guys to see if they're willing to change their behavior.
And if not, we still got what we came for fundamentally.
I appreciate all the hard work that you do.
I know how tired you are.
That guy never sleeps.
So thank you for all of the hard work that you guys have all done.
Your next interview, I think you're going right from this to the view.
And I don't know why you're, and I know you talk about it in the book, so you won't say it,
but I will.
Why are you hanging out with the sad cat ladies?
What do you need from the view?
What do you hope to get from the view?
I would appreciate the prayers of you and your audience, Glenn,
because I'm certainly going to need it here in about 30 minutes.
But, you know, the precedent's attitude on this is,
and I really do believe this,
is you go everywhere, you go anywhere,
to try to take the message.
I mean, we'll talk about the book, obviously.
We're going to talk about, I'm sure, about the Iran deal,
about other policies of the administration.
I just, what I love about,
this administration is we go everywhere. And the view has a lot of a lot of people who watch it.
Now, most of them are not sympathetic to the administration, but if every 10 people who watch
that show are not fans of ours, but you get the message out to one open-minded person,
that was worth it in my view. And that's how we're going to win the future is actually to go out
and persuade people even in hostile places. Good for you. Good for you. J.D. Vance, thank you very
much. Mr. Vice President. I appreciate it. Talk again. Bye. You bet. You bet. Bye-bye.
Let me just take a quick break. 10 seconds.
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But Ricky, your initial thoughts on what he had to say.
I was really, really proud that you asked the crazy cat lady question.
And it...
But it also...
affirmed my hunch that he is doing a worldwide book tour with even the crazy cat ladies
because there is no demographic he wants to leave untouched for future of a presidential run.
And he is he is one of the guys that can meet with anyone and can handle any room.
I mean, he's a very rare politician that can not pander and but handle.
himself in such a way to where, you know, in a room of 100 people, maybe, you know, two or
three will say, wow, that was actually a really good answer, you know, in a very hostile room.
He has a way of being able to handle that. So, you know, good for him.
He became a rock star.
Sorry, I was just going to say quickly. He became a rock star during the election when he would
go on all this opposition media and come out completely unscarred. He's a great debater.
I've only got a minute.
Jason, did he say what you needed him to say on the, you know, no interventionalism?
And I tried to hold him to that.
I think, yeah, and I noticed that.
I think that deserves a lot more discussion because I'm trying to interpret how he answered
and where I see they can wiggle out of some things.
Okay, well, let's, I didn't, I didn't feel he was trying to get wiggle room, but I, but let's talk about it.
We'll get into that next, analyze what he just said about Iran, because that's more than I think he has given, or anybody has given on Iran, so far.
But apparently we have a digital signature on some deal.
They're going to be releasing the details.
The president is still with the G7 summit over in Europe coming back, and we'll have more on all.
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So just did an interview with J.D. Vance.
Let's start with the, let's start with the Iraq or sorry, the Iran news.
In it, I asked him a couple of questions, you know, can you deal with 12ers?
How do you deal with them?
And Jason, his answer to me was, well, you don't trust them.
you verify and you hold back things that, you know, you can, you know, punish them with.
And it sounds like we are relieving the burden of sanctions against them if they sign this.
Is that the way you interpreted?
Ricky, I want to bring you in on this, too.
Jason, go ahead.
That's what it sounded like to me.
And to me, it sounds, I don't want to call it a non-answer.
I think it's one of the fallacies of how past presidents, administrations, and people in general have dealt with Iran.
So this is the baseline of Iran.
Their eventual goals have not changed.
Who they are has not changed.
Their capability at the moment has changed.
But what they really want to do is exactly the same.
They want to spread out all over the Middle East.
They still have the same 12th or ideology.
They want to encircle Israel, destroy Israel.
But that was, I think, covered with the question that I had about the people.
You can't do these things unless you have regime change.
And that is not what the president wants.
And I don't, if it takes boots on the ground, I don't want it.
I don't want it.
I will take a push them back for several years on the nuclear front.
And yeah, kick the can down the road.
But as long as we have really, truly kicked.
that can way down the road,
I'm kind of okay because of the other things that we could do
to destabilize their government.
Look at what they're doing to us.
Look at what other countries are doing to us to destabilize.
They are so weak.
I mean, I don't think it would be hard for us to destabilize their nation.
And that's up for them then.
You know, if the people want to rise up, good, we'll help you.
You know, not directly with, you know, intervention and military,
but we'll help you, but it's up to you to do it.
Wasn't that covered?
I guess.
I'm trying to interpret.
You just disagree with it.
Well, no, so I'm trying to interpret his answers and then what we have not seen in the deal yet,
which is kind of unfair because we might see some of these things in the deal.
But I'm worried, you asked specifically, and you asked it in a follow-up, you said,
so no nuclear program, no long-ring missile program, and support.
for proxies. And he answered with correct, Glenn. So I'm not exactly sure which part of that is
the correct portion, but I see a lot of wiggle room without having seen the deal yet. And I could
be wrong on this when we see the deal. But I see them having some wiggle room with by saying,
look, they're extremely diminished. Just like what you just said, we've destroyed their military.
They have no military. They're broke. They have no, you know, they're on the verge of collapse as it is.
I could see them using that as an excuse to say,
well, this is why we didn't include specifics like missile program,
support for proxies, things like that,
because they don't have it right now
and they're not going to be able to have that in the future.
Well, eventually, as I...
No, I didn't get that impressed.
I would think that would be shady if that's what he meant.
I mean, because I asked him specifically,
so none of these things, none of these things.
These are not, this is involved,
and we're getting those things done.
And he said, that's correct.
So I guess, I mean, that's a slippery answer.
If you don't actually have that in writing,
that they're not going to do those things.
If it's just, well, we've pounded them back to the Stone Age.
I mean, we know they're going to do those things,
but that would be against the treaty that we just did.
And so then we could say, okay, well,
then you're not getting this stuff because it's against the treaty.
Well, we're completely talking out of our rears on this because we have not seen the text of the deal.
But if the text of the deal, if they could not get the Iranians to sign off on curtailing their missile program,
if they would not agree to not support proxies, well, then I think the wiggle room,
and this is where I would push back and object to the text if that's how it is,
I would say, well, you haven't really stopped anything because their main focus, their 12er ideology,
everything has not changed, we've just set them back, and they're still going to try this in the future.
That's what worries me about this.
Well, we know they're going to try it in the future, even if it's in writing.
So, you know, that's a different thing.
But I think I agree with you.
I would want it in writing.
I can understand how they're not going to want that in writing.
I mean, Ricky, where do you stand on this?
Well, I was curious, yeah.
I wanted to know why you believe we don't have the text of the deal public yet.
one, and then two, how are they going to hold the regime accountable when they will find ways to fund
proxies? The Trump administration seems to signal that they think that just by ending the sanctions
or applying sanctions and applying financial pressure will be enough to disincentivize the regime,
but I'm not sure that's true.
So I don't think it is true. I think here's what we learned.
Here's what we learned.
President Trump went in and kicked the can down the road.
Okay, let me give you the most uncharitable view of it.
Kick the can down the road farther than any other president has kicked the can down the road.
Reason why I was for this was because we were not kicking the can down the road.
However, I think what we learned is these guys, there was not the movement inside.
the IRGC was stronger than the people,
and it was stronger than the non-crazy people, okay?
The 12ers are the strength in that regime.
That is something we had to learn for ourselves, okay?
We suspected, I hoped the other way,
but we now know the 12ers are fully in charge, okay?
And there's no way of getting them out unless you kill all of them,
because nobody's going to stand up against them.
So that was the new information that we got since the war.
And you could say, well, you were naive for believing, you know, that you could, that they weren't in charge, whatever.
That's fine.
That's fine.
So then you're down to whichever one of those you believed that we were naive to believe that in the first place, you know, or it was worth a shot.
We did it and we kicked the can much further down the road, which I'm not happy about.
but since you can't get them out, we know they're going to, we know they're going to rebuild.
They are not capable of doing the things that they were capable of doing just a few months ago.
They're not. At least we hope. We hope they're not. If that gives us more time, that gives us more time.
Not a happy ending, but an okay ending. I'm much happier with that ending. I'm much happier with that
ending, then I would be if we would have now sent troops into Iran and then, you know,
kicked the regime out and then had another Iraq on our hands. I would have really been unhappy
with that. So I'm happy-ish with this ending. If it turns out, we've only kicked the can down
the road, but a long way. Does that help explain? Yeah, it does. And I think that, and again,
once the text of this comes out, that's when we are going to know a lot more. And it's very hard
for me to comment before actually seeing that text. That's why we didn't yesterday.
Exactly right. And I mean, I do think that possibly even the delay on this is I would love to hear,
you know, the vice president's, you know, answer on, is this really a peace deal? Or is this really
more like a ceasefire while all of these things that we're worried about are ironed out over the next 30 to 60 days?
I'd love to know that as well.
That's possibly why we haven't seen a lot of the text there
because they're still working on it.
So this could still go a completely different way
to where a lot of these concerns we have
are ironed out and addressed.
We just don't really have that much information right now.
But I believe full transparency is the best way to go forward.
Whatever you do have, just let us know what you do have.
That way we can be just as formed as the government is.
They start this.
Well, we're going to, I mean, the president
and has to release what is in this.
I think you're right.
I think it's still being ironed out,
even though they've said that we have a digital signature on it already.
So maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it's just political waiting.
He's out of the country.
He is waiting until it comes back.
They're supposed to sign it officially on Friday.
Maybe that's when we find out.
So I don't know what the reason is.
I will tell you, I am hopeful that this is at least what I said.
it is a long-term kicking the can down the road.
I am hopeful that it is more than that, but I'm not optimistic.
But I'm going to reserve all other comments on this because why speculate any further than that,
you know, until we actually know, because, you know, Trump proves us wrong all the time
and proves the media wrong all of the time.
Let's wait until we see what it actually is.
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1791 just wrote and said,
So Glenn, you're okay with kicking the way down the road
where our kids and grandkids will end up having to fight in the Middle East.
They need to be totally defeated.
A regime change is totally secured.
Israel will have no problems.
Okay.
Founder, here's where we differ.
I agree with you 100%.
I've said it on the air.
100 times, if not a thousand times.
But I've learned two things in this.
One, 12ers will have to be dealt with like the Nazis.
I suspected that, but didn't know for sure, but maybe hoped we could topple this regime.
But you can't.
They're all going to have to be killed like we killed the Nazis.
So that means total war.
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That's Vietnam.
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But there's another kind of revival.
And I think it stems from this feeling that I think the average American has,
maybe 60% of America, enough is enough.
I'm tired of hating.
I'm tired of it.
Enough is enough.
and I want to run down a couple of things
because I think what is bringing this to the forefront
is FIFA.
I think all of the people who are soccer fans
that are traveling from all over the country,
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I think there is an American colonial, if you will,
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So I want to talk to you a little bit about what I'm experiencing, and I don't think I'm alone,
and it gives me great hope for our nation. If we do not restore our country's story, then we lose.
Humans survive on storylines, and we must restore our story. It is why the progressives,
they knew this from the get-go. It's why the progressives, back in the 1920, started taking storyline away,
and started instead teaching names and dates.
Memorization.
Just memorize this date, memorize this name.
Because that doesn't do anything for you.
You will never use that date ever again.
You don't care.
You don't care.
It means nothing.
But the story means everything.
So we've lost our story.
And when you lose your story,
you start losing respect.
You start losing meaning for anything.
And so everything that we have,
everything that we've done, everything that we are, we no longer appreciate.
And then the next step is just death because everybody just is like, nah, doesn't matter.
Okay.
And so the country dies.
So the first thing that is being restored here, we have an opportunity to restore it,
is being restored by people who are visiting us because of the FIFA games.
All of these soccer fans are coming in from all over the world and they're seeing America for
the very first time.
They're not seeing it on television.
They're not hearing it through the media.
They're seeing it with their own eyes and they're like, wait a minute, something is, I mean, the media has everything about America wrong.
Let me just play some of these.
It's cut 16.
Media is wrong about the USA.
This is a British content creator, Andy in America.
Now listen to what he says.
The media portrays Americans as rude, lazy, all the above.
And it's further from the truth.
The amount of hospitality and kindness and care and pride Americans hold is truly like no other country I've been to.
And to show you a perfect example of that, today is Flag Day, National Flag Day.
And I went to the Huntsville Square.
They did the whole ceremony where they lowered the flag and I guess put a new flag up for the year.
And that was obviously followed by the American National Anthem.
and it was just so nice to see everyone get the hat, take it off, and respect the country.
The communities are so tight-knit together.
And whilst I was there, of course, I was noticed because of my online presence now.
And everyone came up to me and said, hi, handshakes, how are you?
If you have any questions about this or that, let me know.
If you want to go hunting, I'll show you this.
Not to mention, I've got fantastic neighbours.
and they are always coming over to see if I need anything.
After specifically living in Arkansas,
for almost six years, I can safely say anyone outside of the US,
ignore the media, because this is the best place I've been to.
I love living here.
I respect the culture here,
and I'm so proud to be an American citizen.
I'm just so grateful to be here,
and I'm looking forward to the next 50 years I have as my life in this country.
And hopefully soon, I'll be able to travel the country as well.
and experience all of it because it's just wonderful.
All right.
So that's a guy who is obviously living here, made the choice.
That's the kind of immigrant that we want.
Now, we're finding more people that are saying,
you know, I kind of, I'm trying to wish I lived here that are visiting us.
Here is a British couple talking about their experience in the South.
Listen to this.
Guys, what is going on in the South?
seriously life over here is completely different to what we've experienced before the people are so
friendly and welcoming the pace of life over here seems like time has slowed down everything is
chilled out since we got here i feel like our stress levels our stress levels our stress levels
blood pressure is lowered blood pressure has lowered everybody is so welcoming so friendly how many
offers are we get like just everyone that's being so nice. And we also, we are obsessed with their
accents. Oh my God. We love the southern accent. We love how slow they talks. We can understand
them properly. I just love it. We love that accent so much. It's really helping us slow down.
We live life very fast. Like, and being over here in the South is doing something to us in such a good
way. It's really like mellowing us out. It's touching our heart. It's touching our heart.
Like since we got here, we've just been that every five minutes, we're like, that accent, that
accent,
oh, we love it here.
We're not with you.
Okay, so now listen to what the media
is saying about this. The media is saying
that all this stuff you're seeing online,
they're saying that America's
not racist, blah, blah, blah.
No, no, the media will tell you.
No, that's not what they're saying.
They're saying it's not as bad as we thought
it was, okay? No,
listen to what they just said about the people in the South.
They love them. It's changing
their heart. Try this one.
Cut 19.
I am absolutely in shock.
I made this account a month ago showing a British perspective of life in America.
And the amount of messages and the amount of support that I have received from Americans
has been overwhelming.
Like it has been insane.
I have people asking to show me around.
I have people offering to take me out on a boat.
I have people offering to take me to their favorite restaurants.
And that is beautiful.
But there generally isn't any words to describe it.
And I am overwhelmed with love.
I really do like to everybody. I really appreciate that.
Let me take you to a Scottish guy who just arrived in Boston, but he went the long way.
He decided to go to Los Angeles and he walked the length of America. He walked from Los Angeles,
walked from Los Angeles to Boston to raise awareness for mental illness. His arrival in Boston was
absolutely amazing. But here he is
in Illinois
just talking about the kindness
of Americans. Cut 23.
So last night we slept
outside this garage in a place called
Brownstown, Illinois.
When I went in,
the amazing man at the counter
instantly said, what the
fuck is this all about?
Very confused as most people
are. And after very
briefly explaining the story,
he said, wait one second.
He turned round and I had no idea what he was doing.
And this man wrote a check.
On the spot, a check for $200.
And on the check, he wrote three words,
importance of humanity.
He said, that's not from me.
And then point to the sky.
I just want to say a massive thank you
because that is the nicest thing ever.
So we're learning that America is nice.
We're also learning the opposite of what I learned when I went to Europe.
It is so small there.
It is so small.
Somebody talked to me about this when I was over in Great Britain,
and they said, you know, the amazing difference between Americans and the British or Europeans
is that Americans think 200 years is old or 100 years is old,
and the British don't.
But the British think 100 miles is a long way away, and Americans don't.
That's just down the street for us.
Listen to this, cut six, or actually it's cut 15, number six here, a Brit.
There's a fact that I use to verify the size of America to people who don't believe how big it actually is.
You've never been there.
And it's this fact right here.
And it blows my mind that I've been to America.
If you now were to drive in Europe across France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Austria and Switzerland,
so seven different European countries and you took the amount of time you drove across them countries in Europe,
you still wouldn't make it across Texas.
You still wouldn't!
How insane is that?
And that's just one state.
I use that fact all the time when I try and tell people how big America actually is.
You can drive across seven, seven European countries,
and in the same time, if you did that across Texas,
you still wouldn't make it across Texas.
What?
Now let's go to cut 24.
Here's another British person talking about the size of America in a way.
We need to stop calling Americans uncultured
just because they haven't left America.
And now let me tell you for why.
because each state is like a different country,
like a completely different country with its own culture,
with its own landscape, with its own feel.
I have been travelling around America for a while now
and have visited many different states
and they're honestly so unique in their own way.
Everyone is like a different country in its own right.
So we need to stop calling them uncultured
because there's no need for Americans to leave their country.
They can just go to a different state and have a holiday, whereas us in the UK, we live on a tiny little island.
And for us to have a different experience, we actually have to get on a plane and go to another country, whereas Americans can just hop in their car and drive a few hours in a different direction.
And it will feel like they're in a completely different country, even different weather.
Each state has its own unique weather.
It is fascinating to me as I'm watching this.
what I'm learning or rediscovering about America and what I love.
You know, when I was younger, I used to drive across the country because I'd move all the time.
I was in radio.
And I'd drive across the country.
And there was nothing I love, and I still do.
There's nothing I love more than driving across the country, especially not on the interstate.
When you can drive across the country, you recognize the personality of each state and
each town and they are different and i've i've railed against you know the the tj max and the gap and the
you know and tailorization of america where every town has the same stores it used to be that each
town had its own flavor and it would have its own local stores and it was so great it was so great
everything wasn't purchased at walmart and i think we're still developing that but what we miss here in
America. What I miss is that, no, no, no, it really is different to every state. They have countries,
but our founders looked at our nation, these colonies, as almost separate countries. We needed just enough
power as a federal government to hold them together, to be able to, you know, make sure they're not
warring with each other, and, you know, they had fair commerce and, you know, money that was the same
etc, et cetera, et cetera. But they wanted everybody to be different. And we were, and we should be.
You know, that is the thing that kills me. The left keeps saying diversity is our strength.
This is going to be diametrically opposed to itself on both sides. Diversity is our strength.
No, it's not. Unity is a strength. A house divided against itself, cannot stand. Okay. Unity is our strength.
but united in what?
United in principles.
Not the same.
We do want to be diverse as individuals.
But they don't want you to be,
they push for diversity as individuals,
but then they also push for the collective.
You all have to believe certain things
because there are certain things like, you know, transgenderism.
That's their God.
That's their God.
America's God.
What is America's religion?
Ben Franklin was asked this.
What is America? Ben, trying to trap him.
What is America's religion?
That there is a God.
That he gave all of us individual rights.
That he will judge us.
And we should serve him.
And the best way to serve him is to serve as individuals,
to serve other individuals,
to serve our fellow man.
That's our choice.
That was what made us to get.
It's not our, it's not our denomination.
It's not, it's the basic belief that all men are created equal,
that we all have individual rights,
that we're all in this together,
even though we're individuals,
that the best way to help our nation,
the best way to serve our God,
is to help one another.
by choice.
That's what we used to have in common.
Everything else, our diversity was strength.
Our diversity was cool.
But you have to have the basic fundamental building block.
Their building block is transgenderism.
Their building block is Marxism.
Our building block is, all men are created equal,
endowed by their creator, certain inalienable rights,
life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
and governments are instituted among men to protect those rights.
That's where our unity should come from.
Our strength of diversity follows that.
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So the other thing that we take for granted,
that I think these people who are traveling the U.S.
and are posting,
I think they're renewing our belief in things like
that we are different,
that it is better here in America than any place else.
And you only know that if you travel.
And when you travel, you come back home
and you're like, I am glad to be back in America.
Well, here's a,
a British traveler, who says, this beats everything I've ever seen. Cut 25, please.
I was well and truly born in the wrong country. I'm a British girl and I have been to around
27 different countries in my whole life. I've been to the Caribbean. I've been to St. Lucia.
I've been to Barbados. I've been to Southeast Asia, Thailand, Bali, places in Europe.
I've been all over the world, basically. And nothing comes close to the U.S.
say, you can get every single landscape, every single climate, every, like, you can get everything
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There is something in the air, and I think the left has overplayed its hand.
I think the pendulum has started to swing back.
You know, if you've ever read the book, I think it's called The Pendulum or Pendulum Theory.
It is a fantastic book, and it talks about this 80-year cycle,
and we are about 90 years into it,
and I think it's because the progressives
just kept pushing and pushing and pushing
and delaying things that are naturally supposed to happen.
But I think Generation Alpha is the greatest generation.
It's the one that is going to come,
and it's going to be like the World War II generation.
And the progressives have overplayed their hand,
and people are sick of it,
and they don't want it anymore,
and it's a past,
fad. They want to be connected to something that is real. That's why you're seeing resurgence of God.
And I think you're seeing a resurgence of family and country. And it's not happening rapidly.
It is, it's just beginning to start with the country. And I just sense it and I think we need to
encourage it in every way we can. Right now, because of all the people that are here,
visiting us, there is this massive move on social media to show how great America is from people
who are visiting us. If you see those, post them, repost them, like them, interact with them.
That changes the algorithm. And hearing positive things about your country from people who are not
in the country changes people's perspective. It gives them hope. This is the most hopeful thing you could do.
go online and post and repost and interact.
You've got to make a comment and like and share.
When you like, share, and interact with it, it changes the algorithm.
And if everybody in this audience just spent the next week, every time you saw one of those,
comment on it, put the click the little heart and share it.
When you do that, it will sweep the country.
And it will make a difference.
It will make a difference.
Listen to a couple more of these things.
Here is a British fitness influencer
who is getting a tour of America and seeing everything,
and he comes across an air park neighborhood.
Don't know if you know what these are,
but this is where you can land your plane in your neighborhood
and park it in your garage, okay?
It's crazy.
But listen to his perspective on this, cut 30.
I've just arrived at an air park neighborhood,
almost every front drive has a plane parked on it.
This is basically like a plane neighborhood.
If you have a plane, you come and live here,
and you can drive down here,
and there's a runway just off of it.
So you drive your plane down the road
and onto the runway,
and there's over 600 of these in America, roughly.
What? You would never get this in the UK.
This is crazy.
Look, plane there, plane there.
plane down there
what in the world
this is why I love America
I'd never do about this till that just now
this man here is a show
what is he saying what is he saying here
you'd never get this anywhere else
why because the government
always just says no
and Americans are like
I want a neighborhood where I can park my plane
what's wrong with that
and we just do it
we just do it
they're controlled by everything
think of this
Think of the little things that we dismiss.
Think of this.
Play cut 20, please.
This is an Italian.
I can refill.
Yeah.
You want one Coke to you or two?
I can refill this a thousand times.
Yeah, but you won't drink a thousand cups of coffee.
You don't know me.
And it's free.
You paid for it.
You paid it.
Once.
Bro, slow down.
Slow down.
It's cold.
A pavre.
Slow down.
He's got free.
Why? That was good. Because it's free.
Cool? Yes, please.
Right. Thank you.
He just can't get past the fact.
I've already paid the photo of this once.
He paid for it. Free refill.
We take that for granted. He's like, this is insane.
Okay. Listen to this Australian.
Cut 22.
This is probably the most American thing I've ever seen.
I'm saying that a lot of America.
We've got one size, sorry, one size of monsters.
Another size of monster.
Another size of monster.
But if that's still not there enough for you,
we've got another size of a monster.
Oh my God.
Also, how big these Arizona teas are.
Two for three dollars as well.
I can't even...
I can't even hold this.
Also, plus all of the coffee flavor,
Capitino, double shot,
monsters, Dunkins.
Plus, even...
just at like a soda station, or like a gas station if you're American,
you can just feel up with all these like mountain juice,
with all these, um, soft drinks.
Just in the, in the gas stations.
Oh, oh my God, what is that?
That's the coffee, that's creamer.
Oh my gosh, decaf turbo.
It's all those different types of coffee.
This is a crazy.
I love it here.
Stop.
This is an Australian who's looking at coffee pots.
We're not talking starry.
but we're not talking. It's a coffee pot with creamer next to it. She's like, look at that.
It's just in the gas station. America. America. Stop tearing yourself apart. Listen to this woman from France. Cut 28.
Or something I deeply love with the Americans is their mindset of we don't care. Do whatever you want.
If you want to dress a certain way, go for it. If you want to start a project, go for it. If you want to pass a car on the right,
You can do it.
And it's something that personally is helping me to heal.
Because when you're used to shrink yourself and you arrive in the US and you discover this space to just be yourself and do whatever you want, it's so refreshing.
Even wearing this stupid thing is something that I'm just like, yeah, cool.
And as an American, you can say, yeah, she's just wearing something like that and what's wrong?
But a French would see this and would be like, what is wrong with you?
You look ridiculous.
these things. I'm telling you, all we need is to believe that we are worth saving. That's the first step.
Listen to what people from all around the world are coming here and experiencing and saying about you.
Okay. Listen to what they're saying. And you can be on the left. You could be overseas and say they just,
they hate people. They are bigots or whatever. They just hate foreigners or they don't want, you know,
brown people, whatever the lie is. It's not true. One of the most amazing things that I saw was at Wrigley Field in Chicago,
and there was an American National Anthem played. Now, I thought, I thought this was for the,
I thought this was for FIFA. It wasn't. It was just at Wrigley Field. It was in May. Okay.
And it was a mariachi band from Mexico.
And they played the American National Anthem.
And I watched this.
And I was, it was so heartwarming.
Play a cut 14, please.
If I were a racist, I would have a real hard time with that.
I'd be like, look at them Mexicans with those big sombrero hats
and their marching band and mariachi music.
I was thrilled because it's,
showed people who were here that were different than me that treated what we love with respect.
That is America. That is America. Again, I don't need you to look like me. I don't need you to
dress like me. I don't need you to listen to the same kind of music. I don't need any of that.
I just want you to respect the basic idea that all men are created equal.
endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights,
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
and governments are instituted among men to protect those rights.
And that's what makes us different.
It's not our wealth.
It's not.
It's a total mindset that you can be different
because we can all come together on one idea
that we are all meant to be different.
and the government is to enforce the freedoms that we have.
It's to make sure that nothing encroaches on the right to be who you are in the grand scheme of things.
And what happens is two things.
You either deny that or you take it to such a degree that says,
well, then, yeah, that's right.
And that's why I can have my big, bare, fat ass in front of,
kindergartners in this school park yard. No. No, it also requires you to play a role in that.
It requires you to have some self-restraint. Know that we are a civilization. We are a society.
We are trying to get along. And the minute you stop trying to get along, the minute you say,
I'm above everyone else, my wishes, whatever I want to do is above everyone else, then you
break the system. And that requires then somebody to be heavy-handed with you. And it wrecks it for all of us.
And the left knows this. This is why they're encouraging all of this stuff. We started torch-250.com.
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Can you just play a little bit of the song that we have for the Second Amendment? We just released today.
our kind of our schoolhouse rock song on the second amendment.
Here's a piece of it.
Amendment to protects the few who object the man he's point of view.
Each song, I wrote the lyrics and AI assist with music to be able to drill these things into your kids' heads.
So what is the Second Amendment?
It is the right to protect your freedom.
It's not the right to, you know, keep and bear arms.
That's what it says, but it's the right to protect your freedom.
And so every single one of these songs drills it into their heads on what it actually says
and what its purpose is, what it's meant to do and explains it.
Because if we can just get these into our kids' heads, it comes with the responsibility.
Once you understand these rights, you understand the responsibility that goes with the rights.
as the song also teaches that.
But we also have kind of catechism, if you will.
It's made for a conversation.
It's not a test you give your kids.
It's a conversation you have with your kids.
And each one of these has that catechism that goes with it so you can have conversations.
If we can restore A, the uniqueness, the willingness to say, you know, there is something different about America.
And it's pretty great.
We have our problems.
but it's pretty great.
Have you traveled the country?
Watch for the people who are coming to our country
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I saw somebody in Arizona.
I think they were in Sedona.
And they were like, how is this even real?
Look at this.
This doesn't even look real.
I was just in Bryce Canyon over the weekend.
And it is one of the most spectacular, beautiful places I have ever been.
And I've traveled the world.
it is spectacular.
We are a unique place, a blessed land,
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If we can restore our story, we can restore our faith and restore the principles.
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The FBI has come out with something disturbing, a plot they thwarted over the weekend, targeting the White House.
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it's a miracle. Please pray for our law enforcement officials who are doing everything they can to
keep us safe. But there is a balance there. And I want to tell you first about what happened,
because it is truly frightening the details that has just come out. And then I want to give you a
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Okay, let me just give you the story here that's just broken earlier today.
An alleged plot targeting this weekend's UFC Freedom 250 event in Washington, D.C., was disrupted by the FBI and saw its law enforcement partners spring into action.
Here's what we know so far. Five people were in custody as of Monday.
Investigators have identified 23 individuals as part of what they describe as a potential network of plotters.
so we're no longer talking a lone gunman.
It's not a lone wolf anymore.
Now, who are these people?
Officials say the alleged plan involved using explosive-laden drones
to strike buildings near the event.
That's what we saw happen in Ukraine.
That's what when we saw, I warned and said,
this is not a good development.
I warned that this was the future of warfare.
So they planned on using...
drones that they strapped with explosives, it would trigger a mass evacuation and funnel crowds
toward a pre-stage sniper team.
A second phase allegedly called for storming the White House gate.
This is pretty elaborate.
And the funneling in is what we've been talking about, what terrorists have been planning on doing for a while.
What they do is a strike.
and then when the EMS and everybody else shows up, when everybody starts running there,
that's when the real terror strike happens.
FBI learned of the threat on June 10th, secured probable cause for an arrest in Cincinnati
where one suspect was taken into custody.
Investigators later uncovered signal chats in which multiple people allegedly discussed
the attacks on the UFC event.
An initial review of one suspect's iPhone revealed at least 23 signal users discussing pre-operational activity.
Some participants allegedly planned to travel to Fredericksburg, Virginia on June 12th or 13 to prepare for the attack.
One suspect allegedly told investigators the goal was to target capitalist elites, billionaires,
or politicians who received donations from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee,
otherwise known as APAC.
Now let me see.
Who does this sound like?
Capitalist elites were targeted,
billionaires,
or politicians who were in bed with APAC.
Hmm.
That does not sound like a right-wing plot, does it?
Investigation spanned at least 12 FBI field offices.
Cash Patel credited agents
to the Department of Justice law enforcement partners
with acting quickly.
The event drew,
an estimated 4,300 attendees, including 1,200 active duty service members as 14 fighters competed,
blah, blah, blah. The alleged scheme comes amid a series of threats and security incidents involving
Trump and senior administration officials highlighting concerns about political violence.
We are on the edge, gang. We are on the edge. And when it happens, a couple of things could happen.
Let me tell you what the left is counting on, that it will tear us.
apart even more and that we will do the opposite of what we did on September 11th.
What we did on September 11th is we united. We came together. We didn't care about your politics.
We didn't care who you were, your class. We didn't care if you were a billionaire or, you know,
poverty ridden. We stopped people in the street. Do you remember doing this? You would pass people in
a store or something and you could see it in their eyes and there were a complete stranger. And you would
say, are you okay? Are you okay? We would hug strangers. We would help strangers. That's who we are.
Americans reveal themselves at times of crisis. Now, are we still those same people? That's the only
really remaining question. That's why I have been preaching for years. Don't close your heart.
Don't close your heart. Do everything you can to keep your heart open. Keep it soft.
Remember who you are. Don't get angry.
Because only if that charitable part of your heart is open where you can still recognize even the people who you don't like as spiritual family members, part of the human race, we won't make it.
And they're counting on us turning on each other and it growing.
We have to decide right now, we're not going to do that.
We are going to come together.
We will be the Americans we were on 9-12.
And it's going to be harder because there are going to be those in our own communities
that are still pushing, still blaming, still, you've got to be the person that says,
when everybody is running one way,
you need to be the person that is brave enough and in touch with the spirit enough to be able to stand up and go, don't, don't, don't, don't go that way. Listen, you know me. Don't go that way. Please don't go that way.
And know that some of them are going to continue to run past you in the wrong direction. Just be calm, cool, and collected.
The other place we're going to need cool heads to prevail will be in Washington, D.C.
because the government will look to gain more and more power.
And it will happen with the Republicans,
just as fast it will happen with the Democrats.
And they've already weaponized this government.
It's not too late, but it is soon, almost impossible to stop soon,
if we don't get it under control.
I don't care how you vote.
This is one thing that we all should unite on.
You know that scene, we've seen it in movies a million times.
That's seen usually in a mob movie
where somebody walks into a store,
neighborhood guy standing behind the counter,
his little grocery store, he's worked there his whole life,
his dad built it,
his kids stock the shelves after school, you know.
And then a local guy walks in in a nice suit.
And he almost offhandedly says,
Nice place you got here.
Shame of something happened to it, huh?
Everybody understands what's happening immediately.
Everybody understands.
That threat only works because the mob already controls the pressure points.
I watched, what is the new Dutton show?
Is it Dutton Ranch?
Yeah, right, Dutton Ranch.
Tanya and I were watching that last night.
And I won't give anything away,
in case you haven't watched it yet.
It's really good.
Beth and her character.
But there's corruption and it's in this town and it's deep in this town.
And one of the characters is kind of like faced in this situation.
What are you going to do?
I mean, you know what to do, what the right thing is, but it's basically like that.
Be a shame if you said anything now, you know, it'd be a shame if something happened to you
because, you know, basically we control everything.
And that's what has happened in America, okay?
the threat only works if you control the unions and the permits and the cops and the judges
and the banks and the loans and the trucking routes.
That's real power.
Real power doesn't kick your door in.
It just sometimes makes it impossible until you cooperate.
And if that doesn't work, then, you know, be ashamed of something happening.
If that doesn't work, they burn your house down.
And you know the police are never going to do anything because they own the police.
as well. That's the conversation that we should start having. That's the way we should start
viewing our government. That is the healthy way to view a government. Never give them enough power
so they can do those things. And whether people like hearing it or not, the story didn't begin with
Donald Trump or Obama or Biden. This road goes back more than a century. You, I mean, when America
first fell in love with the idea that experts should manage society. Ricky, what is a
name of that podcast that we have on,
on Torch 250?
Is it the experts or control freaks?
Oh my gosh, that is such a good series.
Nathan Nipper wrote this before he wrote the American story.
And he is our historian.
He is really super good, a great writer.
And he wrote Control Freaks.
And it is a whole podcast series about,
how did we get here?
How did we get to a place to where you won't even listen to
yourself anymore. You won't listen to your mom. You'll listen to an expert. You won't listen to
your mom about raising your kids. And look at the damage we've done by listening to experts.
This started in the early 1900s, okay? In the early 1900s, we fell in love with this. Progressives
looked at Europe the same way, you know, youth, many of us in our 20s might have looked at, you know,
Scandinavian socialism. It's easy to see centralized power and it's modern and it's efficient.
and it's scientific.
It doesn't work.
But on the surface, it looks kind of good, right?
You know, the Canadian health care system.
It looks good until it catches up with you.
And then it's horrific.
Woodrow Wilson actually argued the Constitution was outdated
because it restrained the government too much.
Think about that.
He said the same thing, actually, that Obama used to say.
Constitution is a charter of negative liberties,
tells the government what it can't do.
We need a charter of positive liberties
He's telling us what the government must do.
Wow.
Sounds nice until you realize that that is the failed model of every authoritarian state.
Okay.
Well, let me stick with Wilson.
1900s, he openly believed government needed more freedom from the Constitution.
And that mindset is what changed everything in America.
We began listening to the elite class, the experts over common sense and the common man.
And you won't believe how this was played.
I mean, you've got to listen to that Control Freaks podcast because in it, I tell you a story about how all these experts went into places like GM and said, well, here's how many widgets you should make.
This is what every man should do.
And they were making it up.
Okay.
The elite class, the modern scientific class, they gave us the rise of eugenics and everything else.
And this is one of parts of history that, you know, schools fly past at about 90 miles an hour because it's ugly.
But that's the kind of stuff that happened in a moment.
America that we should be talking about, not only slavery, but the American elites, the politicians,
the professors, the journalists, the academics that supported the idea that government should
improve humanity by controlling who could reproduce and who couldn't.
Force sterilizations. How can we don't talk about that? That happened a lot, lot closer to us now
than slavery did. In America, thousands of people and mostly poor, mostly disabled, minorities,
people the experts decided were undesirable.
Okay, if that sounds bad to you,
if you think Donald Trump can do that or wants to do that
to the people he finds undesirable,
well, then you shouldn't give the government more power.
And it's not just him because your side did this last time.
Okay.
Here's the uncomfortable part nobody likes talking about.
America's eugenics programs are the inspiration.
They were big inspiration.
inspirational parts that made up the Nazi Germany racial policies.
Okay, that's just fact.
The Nazis studied the American programs.
Our elite educated class went to meet with a scientist who taught him to, quote,
the Nazis, to show them what could be done with modern eugenics.
Okay, now why does that matter?
Why am I telling you this after I'm telling you a story in Washington, D.C.?
Because it shows how quickly government power becomes dangerous,
once people convince themselves they're building a better society or they're saving society,
that's the pattern.
Every era, and we'll do it too, you get these big terrorist attacks and people will say,
yeah, but this time it's different.
We've got to do something.
Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
We've got to do something.
That's really bad.
That's a very dangerous phrase because that doesn't tell us what we are doing.
That tells us we have to do something.
Well, maybe not that.
Yeah, every era says, oh, this power is only going to be used for good,
until somebody ugly gets all control of the machine.
And it always happens.
Okay, let me take you from Woodrow Wilson to FDR.
Sorry, I'm going on this history tangent,
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It was an emergency. We've got to do something. And so the government exploded in its reach into everyday life.
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Why did the CIA happen because of the OSS?
Why did the OSS happen because of WW2?
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and it's human nature. World War II, Japanese Americans, what happened to them? Round up.
They were rounded up, put into internment camps, entire families. They lost businesses. They lost home.
They lost land. They were American citizens. What do the government say? Got to do it for security.
They're going to kill us all. We're at war. Fear becomes the justification for expanded state power.
Fear. Again, why am I?
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businesses at the White House, then funneling, because they know the plans of escape, funneling those
people into choke points, then shooting those choke points. Okay. Then storming the gates of the,
that's what they just stopped over the weekend. What is that, does that make you feel comfortable or does
that make you feel fearful? How many people will hear that and go, I don't know if I want to go to
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because the government is in charge of teaching.
And when there's a story in show prep about how the Supreme Court is not taking on this case about free speech and school, and they said because the school boards have to be able to decide, blah, blah, blah.
But the school boards many times have been completely hijacked.
And the teachers unions and the Department of Education are almost one right now.
They're so powerful these forces and they're all leftists.
We need to make sure that we have control of everything locally.
everything locally. You need to be able to decide and they need to be able to be based on the
principles of the American founding. I bring this up because of a story that I shared with you about
half an hour ago about what the FBI just broke up over the weekend. It was a very elaborate plan.
I think five people now are in jail and I think 17 have been identified, something like that.
and it was a plan to use drones and explosives at the White House or near the White House,
get everybody to panic, then run for the exits,
and then they had a sniper team that they were setting up that were going to target the exits
and they were going to shoot people at the exits as they were trying to get out.
So mass casualties.
Then phase two was stormed the gates of the White House.
I mean, it's insane, insane.
But we're not in lone wolf territory.
anymore. We are headed towards Bezlin. You don't know what that is. Look it up. That's what we're headed
towards. And that will change us forever. Look at what happened after 9-11. Look how the airports have changed.
Look how all your rights have changed. Look at the FISA courts. You know the FISA courts were actually
set up for our own good? I mean, I was taking you through Wilson, then FDR. Then you have McCarthyism,
fear of nuclear war. So we've got to do something. Government says all of this stuff is good for security.
We need it. Fear becomes the justification to be able to expand the state power.
Red Scare McCarthyism, co-intel pro, something else they don't teach you in school that should.
Then the FBI with that infiltrating civil rights groups, anti-war movements, political organizations, journalists.
why red scare, scare of terrorism, scare of communism, all of this stuff.
Martin Luther King, he gets his phones wiretap by the government.
The government sends him anonymous letters.
The government does, suggesting he should kill himself.
All of this happened.
Not in Soviet Russia, here, in America, all of it.
Then came Nixon in Watergate.
And Watergate mattered because Americans realized the executive branch
would absolutely use federal agencies and intelligence tools.
on political enemies if nobody stopped them.
And so what do we do?
We form the Church Commission.
Investigations in the 1970s, huge.
Congress uncovers widespread surveillance abuses by the FBI and the CIA and the NSA.
Secret files on people like you and me, political spying, manipulation campaigns, all of it.
Most Americans have never even heard of the Church Committee, but they know the solution.
they know that modern surveillance uses FISA courts.
Well, that was from the Church Commission.
That was started, not because of the Patriot Act,
that was started because of Watergate.
They were trying to get the government under control.
And so they put FISA courts and said,
you need a warrant.
And what happened?
Those agencies have bastardized that thing
and have now used it as a weapon.
Because government will always convince you it needs it.
It must have it.
And now with technology, with the scale of things that could happen here in the United States,
I mean, before computers, they could only track so much.
Now, how do you think we could track these guys?
Their phones, computers, guarantee it.
Now, all of this stuff, all of the protections are being removed.
Now, human beings had limits.
Paper had limits.
They could only track so much.
But now searches, your searches, your purchases, your locations, your contacts, your opinions,
your friends, what you're saying, who you're saying it to, all of that.
After 9-11, we just gave the government all these new powers.
And it was understandable because we were terrified.
Why am I telling you all of this?
Because I fear you're going to be terrified.
And you have to remember these things.
It has to be fresh in your memory.
Tell your friends these stories.
Make sure they understand it.
Back it up with the facts.
You don't believe me?
I don't ask for you to believe me.
I don't want you to believe me.
I want you to be curious enough about some of these stories and look it up for yourself.
What the hell is Co-Intel pro?
What is that?
Look it up.
You don't believe me about Martin Luther King being spied on by our own government with death,
with suicide promptings sent to him in the mail by our FBI.
You don't believe me?
Look it up.
because once you give the government the power to do these things,
it will never disappear.
It will never go away.
Patriot Act expanded surveillance dramatically.
Most Americans barely understood what was happening
because our country was focused on being bombed.
We were being focused on what was happening to us right now.
And it's much more sophisticated than old school censorship.
Soviet Union needed secret.
police. You don't need it. We have algorithms now. You don't believe me? Look at COVID.
What happened with COVID? This was the biggest stress test centralized authority has ever had,
ever had. What happened? Businesses closed, churches closed, schools closed,
travel restricted, speech monitored. Okay, some of these things might have been necessary.
That's not even the biggest issue. The bigger issue was watching nearly every
institution move exactly in sync. Government, media, tech companies, corporate HR departments,
universities, same phrases, almost overnight, same approved opinions overnight, same punishment,
same suggestions for punishments, overnight. People noticed, especially when opinions labeled
dangerous misinformation one year suddenly became acceptable debate the very next year. That destroys trust.
And now you throw DEI policies into the mix.
Most Americans support fairness.
Most Americans support treating people decently.
But that's not about equal treatment.
That's ideological management.
Mandatory training, speech codes, hiring quotas,
institutional loyalty tests,
NASA documents, military trainings, federal agencies, corporate America.
The language changed, but the instinct underneath was very,
familiar. Shape behavior, shape the language, control the thought. That's why so many Americans
feel like you're walking on eggshells all the time, not because America became more evil overnight,
but because institutional pressure became constant. Soft pressure, career pressure,
social pressure, digital pressure. Soft pressure changes behavior just as effectively as force
if people become afraid enough.
You know, one thing that Jonah Goldberg used to say
that was absolutely right,
fascism will come with a happy face.
It's not going to come in a black trench coat.
It's going to come with a happy face.
We're here to help you.
That's the danger.
It's not one dictator, not one election.
A culture that slowly trains its citizens
to self-censor.
That's the danger.
That's why this moment matters.
Because all of this stuff is bigger than Republican.
or Democrats. It's bigger than Donald Trump. It's bigger than any of this. It's why we all should
be celebrating America 250. We should all be at the national mall. We should all be holding up our
documents. We should all be celebrating in our own ways, even though we vote differently. The real
issue in America is whether Americans still believe government exists to protect liberty
or whether government exists to manage society. Those are completely different systems.
The founders and our documents understand this clearly.
That's why they limited power.
That's why they separated power.
That's why they distributed power.
That's why they said the press cannot be with the government.
Because they understood something.
Modern societies always forget.
Human nature does not improve because technology improves.
Look at us.
Are we any different than the people that Jesus was talking to on the streets of Jerusalem?
that he was preaching to.
He's given us all of this,
he's given us this entirely new way of life.
Is our society really that different?
No.
Why?
Because what Jesus taught doesn't work,
or because people haven't changed.
People are still people.
We don't always apply it.
Temptation.
The temptation to control people.
It never disappears.
The temptation to control people.
get what you want. It never disappears. That's why the solutions are always in the heart,
not in handcuffs. Humans just update the software. And if history teaches us anything,
every government believes its own abuses were necessary while it commits them. And all of the
people in that society cheer it along because they've been convinced. That's why we should be
celebrating stubborn citizens. We should be celebrating those people like, well, wait a minute,
not so fast here. Citizens willing to question power even when it's wildly uncomfortable.
Citizens willing to defend principles, even when their own political tribe is winning.
Because once people start cheering for government power simply because their side controls it,
freedom is dying. And it usually dies with applause, not gunfire.
That is the part that history is teaching us today.
That's why I bring this up to you today when I hear about a massive, do you know what that would have done?
Do you know how close we were to possibly absolute authoritarian?
And it would have happened under Biden and it would have happened under Trump because everybody wants to feel safe.
And the government, especially the government agencies, FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSA, all of those.
they want more power because they can keep us safe.
I'm telling you these things so we can answer the question.
Are we finally willing to learn this lesson and stop the weaponization of government while we still have enough power and free will to do something about it?
How will you respond if God forbid some massive attack happens this summer?
Will you be part of the American solution or will you run for particular?
It's going to be hard and you're going to feel very alone.
But you know what?
I have never seen a statue of someone great.
I've never seen a statue of a crowd.
It's always that one person who is absolutely afraid and absolutely alone and knew it.
But stood there.
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Glenn Beck is back in a minute.
I have to share something I got on from yesterday's show.
We have an insider that is recovering from surgery.
And I have to tell you, the insiders are the best.
You know, if you've ever gotten together with this audience and you've been,
you've been in a crowd of people that listen to the show, they're just different people.
They're really great people.
And you should join.
But anyway, they've been praying for Nicole.
She has had surgery, and we've been praying for her the last week.
She can sit and type and she can listen, but she's a little medicated.
She said, I can't fall asleep after the show yesterday.
I'm going to have nightmares of Catholic aliens wielding a rocket in the shape of Elizabeth Warren.
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