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Episode Date: November 13, 2025House Democrats released a trove of emails from convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, which Democrats claim implicates Trump. Is this the scandal that will take Trump down, or is this another desper...ate attempt that will fall flat? Will we ever get the whole truth regarding Epstein? Glenn and Stu react to an interview with Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.), in which he calls out Democrats for their cruelty toward the other side. Glenn goes through the steps required for a civil war to begin. Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) joins to discuss how he aims to fix Texas’ out-of-control property taxes. Glenn and Stu react to Abbott’s property tax plan. As AI is beginning to take off in music and film production, Glenn talks about the importance of human influence in art. Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) joins to discuss President Trump’s tariff policy and whether or not the Senate should get rid of the filibuster. John also discusses his new book, “How to Test Negative for Stupid: And Why Washington Never Will.” “The Great Reset” and “Dark Future” co-author Justin Haskins joins to discuss the terrifying number of people who believe AI should take over as decision-makers in society. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, let's dive right into the Epstein Maxwell emails.
My gosh, Stu.
Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children?
I mean, it's as clear as.
as day in the emails.
You know, he spent hours with one of the victims.
What else could possibly have occurred in that arrangement?
We don't know.
And it's one of the victims, Stu, one of the victims.
One of the victims.
That's all we know.
That's all we know.
One of the victims.
Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote.
I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump.
victim
redacted
victim
spent hours
at my house
with him
he has never once
been mentioned
police chief
etc
okay
new information
just released
or is it
because in 2011
2011
that was released
and everybody knew it
it's been out
floating around
here's the change
in 2011
this is what it read
I want you to realize that dog it has embark is Trump.
Virginia spent hours at my house with him.
Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square?
It's already out.
The memo is already out.
The email is already out.
It's been out for years.
Why would you redact that name now?
Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny.
Shiny and new.
If you don't know who said it, you see.
victim and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was, who was the victim? I don't know.
But when you know it's Virginia, you know this is already gone to court.
This is, she already testified about this. He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it.
It's true. He didn't partake in any sex with us. And I'm quoting, this is from the testimony.
But it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me.
Have you ever met him? Yes, at Marlago, my dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk. Have you ever been in Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another? No. What's the basis of your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey? Jeffreys told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his. He didn't partake in any of the sex with any of it. He flirted with me. It's true that he didn't partake in any of any.
sex with us but it's not true that he flirted with me so I don't understand that
but she goes on Donald Trump never flirted with me okay so what what's new about
this this is the same girl this is the same person that didn't she work at
Marlago or she was going to get a job at Marlago or she did yeah I believe she did it
yeah so we know they know each other we know they know each other we know they know
each other. We know that at Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey Epstein would come and he was poaching the employees,
the girls there, to go work for him. And Donald Trump went to him and said, hey, man, stop it.
Stop poaching people from me. That's not cool. Don't do it. And then he said, oh, yeah, all right.
And then he did it a second time. And he's like, you know what? You're out. I don't want you here
anymore. I asked you not to do that. And you did it. Now, that doesn't mean that he knew anything about the
or what was happening or anything else.
And even if it did mean he knew something was happening with the girls,
he was saying, hey, stop it.
Don't take any of the girls of the women here.
Don't do it.
I don't believe he knew anything about any of this,
but God only knows and really God only knows.
This is not new news.
Donald Trump, he might end up beating
Bezos as the richest man on the planet when all is said and done.
Because again, they're presenting this as new fact, a giant scandal.
Stu, I don't know if you know this.
This is a, this breaking news is a giant scandal.
Yeah, I've heard Democratic representatives saying that over the past 24 hours.
Like, yeah, we said, we need to investigate this.
We need to have had this.
This is shocking stuff.
It's a massive scandal.
And even ABC News.
news, I heard push back against this and say, well, what scandal? What are you implying occurred here?
We know who the victim was. We know the victim. Like, why did you even redact that name? And they're like,
well, we always redact the name of victims. Like, do you really, when they're already out publicly?
Not to mention, we should point out that this particular victim is not even alive. You know, she
sadly die. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible story. Terrible story. Terrible story. But yeah,
she passed away, you know, she's suicide. It was at least the, uh, the report, I believe. Um,
but she has a book, uh, posthumous book coming out. Um, but like a terrible, terrible story.
It's, you know, but like to, to act as if you have to protect her identity when number one,
she's dead. Is ridiculous. Number two, everyone already knows who she was, including the news sources
who also have a policy, you would think. And ABC News has a policy that they would redact a victim that was
in this type of situation. But it's,
already been out. We already knew who it was. So they redact it to make it look like he's
with other people who have not already told us in nothing bad occurred. You know, it is an
absolutely awful tactic. And at least that's at least one. I think litigation should follow again.
I think he should sue them again. Anyone who is presenting this as new information,
ABC did their job. Congratulations for ABC.
They did their job.
They pointed out, this is not new information.
Why would you red-
Why are you releasing this now?
And you're redacting a name.
This email is already out.
You're presenting this as a new scandal.
And you redacted that name.
This is completely dishonest.
The news media shouldn't even run with it.
They shouldn't have even run with it.
They should have said, old news.
Old news.
And if you did run with it, you should handle it
the way ABC handled it.
Wait a minute.
Why would you redact the name?
There's nothing new here.
What do you mean?
There's a big scandal.
There's no big scandal.
She's already testified exactly opposite of what you're believing Jeffrey Epstein over the victim now.
I just want to make sure we understand the Democrats here.
You're taking the word of Epstein over the victim.
Oh, okay.
And Epstein doesn't even say that anything occurred.
that there's not
it's just it would be
something you'd have to jump to a conclusion
to accuse Donald Trump
of something like this
and we know
what happened because the victim
said nothing said it was
nothing in fact it wasn't
even a flirtation which by the way
you know even that you might think it's creepy
wouldn't even have been a crime
but it wasn't even flirtation
so I
it's a disgrace in every single
way. All right. So let me let me take you here. Let me take you here. If you remember when the
shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say the reason why they did the shutdown? Not them.
Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate? Why wouldn't the Republicans negotiate?
Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that. So they
shut the government down.
Okay?
They wouldn't negotiate.
You didn't hear any of this?
It's incomprehensible.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
I know. I know.
That is probably what they said.
So the government is open.
And what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?
He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to the
late financier convicted child sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein next week.
He said on Wednesday that a discharge position to bypass leadership and force a vote
on the bill hit the benchmark for needed signatures.
It's been decided by him to expediate the vote for the bill, which under the current rules,
could have been delayed until at least early December.
So he says, as soon as that petition hit the needed 218 signatures, I brought it up,
unanimous consent.
Let's go.
Release it.
So he's pushing this forward.
Good, Mike.
Release all of it.
Thank you.
Get it.
out. Lance this boil. I mean, if anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this
in the first place, it's madness. It's madness. Everybody, I mean, so many important people were
involved in this and it was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. Okay. So they had
all of this information. You don't think it was all picked through. And if there was anything
about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?
There's nothing in there about Donald Trump. I mean, these people are so stupid. This time we got him,
boys, this time we got him. No, you don't. It's like your Wiley coyote. This time we've got the
roadrunner. No, you're never going to catch him on this. It doesn't work. There's nothing there.
The guy was the most investigated person in the history of the world and you got nothing.
Now it's good to come out.
But if you think you're going to catch a bunch of people on the left, you're not going to because they had it, you know, in their possession.
You don't think all of the names were taken out.
You don't think things were destroyed if there was anything.
I believe there was something.
But I don't believe there's any names in it anymore.
You're not going to get the truth on this one.
You're just not going to get the truth.
But release everything that we have.
Everything.
Oh, by the way.
Also in the Epstein emails,
how come nobody's talking about this one, Stu?
This one is from Michael Wolfe to Jeffrey Epstein.
And then Jeffrey Epstein responds.
So Michael Wolf writes,
what's the thumbnail on Nesbaum Foster?
and Jeffrey Epstein writes back,
Nesbaum White House Counsel,
dot, dot, dot, Hillary doing naughtys with Vince.
Now, Vince Foster killed himself,
you know, and then he killed himself
in the White House and then drug himself
across the street to the park.
I mean, I don't know.
The Vince Foster thing is so old.
But why is nobody talking about that one?
Why is no one talking about that?
also in the Jeffrey Epstein email bundle ABC you don't feel it's necessary to bring that one up
huh interesting all right let me take a quick break and I'm going to come back we're going to talk
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Okay, so the record breaking shutdown is over last night. Donald Trump signed the continuing
resolution into law, so we don't have to worry about this until January, where they're going
to do it again.
I got to tell you, Carolyn Levitt is just the best. She's the best. She came out yesterday and said,
just want to remind you everything that's going on. The Small Business Optimism Index and
the Federal Reserve reported the shutdown has already negatively impacted the economy,
millions of Americans are employed by the federal government. Millions more work as federal contractors.
Subcontractors are for businesses that depend on federal contracts or funding. Hundreds of thousands of federal employees have missed their paychecks. Tens of billions in wages and benefits were withheld impacting vulnerable families. Millions of low-income American families missed their snap benefits. Nearly 20,000 flights at airports across the country were delayed due to staffing shortages, causing Americans to miss family events, vacations and work obligations. She noted,
American Airlines estimate flight disruption already have or will impact 5.2 million people who
are traveling. Congressional Budget Office estimates the cuts to the fourth quarter GDP growth
could be as large as 2% potentially delivering a negative blow to the Treasury Secretary Scott
Besson's plan to keep the federal deficit at 3% of GDP in his 333 plan. Most of the decline in
real GDP will be recovered eventually, but estimates are between seven,
billion and $14 billion will never be recovered because of the shutdown.
So congratulations to the Democrats who, what did you accomplish?
Nothing.
Well, no, this.
The FAA still can't reopen.
Their reduction of 6% is still in effect.
They said that, you know, Sean Duffy, who is the Department of Transportation Secretary,
he said he's going to look at it hourly, but they have to make sure that they have
the air traffic controllers back at work and everything is running fine.
He said, we have to make sure the skies are safe.
So they are going to keep this reduced.
They are not going up.
It was supposed to go up to eight and then I think 10% by the weekend.
And now they are, they're going to keep the 40 airports the way they are right now.
So there's still going to be some problems for the next few days on flights.
I'm going to tell you, the guy who.
who I'm really impressed with is John Fetterman.
I mean,
I remember when he first started making sense.
I was like,
how is the guy with brain damage,
the guy who's making sense here?
And I think I said before that,
the guy with,
explains how you become a Democrat,
you know,
you have to have brain damage to understand.
The guy has turned into,
I mean,
I don't agree with his policies,
but he is at least
turned into an honest broker of information, an honest broker of what's really going on.
He calls the shots the way he sees them.
I mean, he's absolutely alone.
He talked about this on CNN.
Do we have the audio of CNN?
He was on CNN and he was talking about how much hate he gets from the left as opposed to the right.
Listen to this.
You said, quote, I've drunk deeply of the venom of both the left and the right as a connoisseur.
can confirm that the most poisonous, the bitterest, is from the far left.
That is pretty remarkable to hear you say that as an elected Democrat.
Why?
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
You know, it's just been my personal experience on this thing.
The difference is, I mean, the right would say really rough things and names.
You know, some names I won't repeat on TV.
but but but the the on the left it was like they want me to die or that we're cheering for your
next stroke or that's terrible that depression one why couldn't it depression one and and
i hope your kids find you and it's unfortunately true unfortunately true not surprising though
is are you all surprised by that i mean i no she was yeah i mean i guess that's you're not
supposed to say that obviously as a Democrat. And I'd agree with you that Federman has been
certainly better than I would have expected him to be getting when he got into office.
You know, he is. Yeah, I don't agree with his, I don't agree with his policies. But he's a guy
who seems to have the same kind of American principles that we behave a certain way. You know what I
mean? And we are a, you know, a country that has certain things that we just know are, we find
self-evident. And he seems to be that guy.
kind of an old style Democrat that I'm not going to agree with on policies, but I can at least say he
doesn't hate the country. And how did that happen? Because I thought for sure he hated the country
when he was running, or at least his wife hated the country. Yeah, I don't know.
It has been an interesting turn. Because it's not just been that he's had a couple of things that we
agree with him on. There's been a couple issues he's good on. But he also has been really outspoken
and taking on his own side. I don't know.
Maybe something like this, you know, stroke changes you, right?
Like, we've talked about that with the president getting shot, right?
Like, when something like that happens to you, it can be a life-changing event.
Maybe some of that has happened.
He's just been, you know, I'm not going to sit here and play these games.
My life was threatened, not that long ago.
It's amazing.
It's going to be amazing to see because, you know, the left is not happy with him.
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So if you take what Federman said yesterday about how people are cheering for him to die on the left,
and then you couple it with something that was on the Joe Rogan show on Tuesday,
he was saying that the reaction to the death of Charlie Kirk makes him think that the U.S. is closer to civil war than he thought.
Let me quote him.
He said, after the Charlie Kirk thing, I'm like, oh, we might be.
like at seven.
This might be like step seven on the way to a bona fide civil war.
Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating.
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You want people to die you disagree with?
Where are we now on the scale of civil war?
Well, let me go over the scale of civil war because it's sobering.
Now, none of this has to be true.
If we wake up and decide, I don't want to do this anymore.
Okay. Here's step one. Step one, loss of civic trust. Every civil conflict begins when people stop believing that the system is fair. Are we there? We are so far past the doorway. We are comfortably asleep on the couch on this one. Gallup and Pube both show trust in Congress, media courts. The FBI and government are now at record lows. The Edelman Trust Barometer classifies the U.S. now as severely polarized. Majority of Republicans,
Distrust federal elections majority of Democrats don't trust the Supreme Court
Americans are really united on one thing and that is the other side is corrupt
When faith in the rules collapses the republic begins to wobble but that's step one step two
polarization hardens into identity
Political disagreement is normal
Identity conflict is fatal
But that's what Marxist push
identity politics.
This is when politics stop being about policy and start being about who you are as a person.
Have we crossed this one into step two?
I mean, we're neck deep in this.
A study on this from PRRI, it's a survey found 23% of Americans believe political violence may be necessary to save the nation.
I think that's an old study.
Americans now sort themselves by zip code into ideological enclave.
the big sort.
Universities, activists, corporations,
everybody is promoting oppressor versus oppressed.
And that what does what?
It puts us into incompatible tribes.
Opponents aren't wrong anymore.
The opponent is dangerous.
If you go back and you look at civil wars,
Lebanon before 1975, Yugoslavia before 1991,
that's, we're doing that.
Okay.
Step three.
breakdown of the gatekeepers.
The gatekeepers are kind of like the referees of society.
It's the media, political parties, churches, civic leaders.
When they fail, extremism fills the vacuum.
So where are we on this one?
Have our gatekeepers failed us?
Yeah, I think both parties, especially the left, you know,
everything I predicted that the left was going to be eaten by the extreme left.
and then the communist and the socialist is now happening.
They've lost control of the fringe of each party.
Media transformed from referees into team coaches.
Tech platforms.
It's outrage for profit.
Universities are not there to cool things down.
They heat them up.
Churches are useless.
Useless.
When the referees leave the field,
the game devoles into a brawl.
And the refs are gone off the field.
So there are only nine steps.
We're at step four.
Here's step four.
You ready for this one?
Parallel information realities.
Civil wars don't require different opinions.
They require different realities.
I remember reading about Germany at the beginning of, you know, the Nazi era, how the new, two newspapers, one was propaganda for the government.
and the other one, it was the last one that was kind of a holdout.
And they said you could read them and they would cover the same thing.
But they had almost no information was the same, except that happened yesterday.
Here's what they said.
And then everything else was different.
That's exactly.
I mean, step four is complete.
We can't agree on facts, right?
Crime rates, border numbers, inflation, election security.
Two Americans can watch the same.
video and see opposite truths.
Social media algorithms are creating
customized political universes,
digital echo chambers.
Deep fakes, we're just at the beginning
of that. And both sides accused
the other of running disinformation machines.
Why? Because we don't have a shared reality.
So if you don't have a shared reality,
how do you settle any dispute?
On the nine steps, we're up to number five.
Coming in at number five, loss
of neutral rule of law.
This,
out of the nine steps,
five is the pivot point.
It's not corruption.
It's the belief that the law
no longer is neutral.
Are we there yet?
Let me tell you the CBS
UGov poll. 67%
say the justice system is used for political purposes.
I think that's low.
January 6th defendant's given years
in prison, 2020 rioters were released.
High profile political figures prosecuted or shielded based on party.
FBI whistleblowers alleging pressure to inflate domestic extremism numbers, states like
Texas directly defying federal directives on border enforcement and now leading the way with
the federal government.
History is really cold and unforgiving on this point.
Once the people believe justice is political, remember,
This is the turning point.
The Republic stands on borrowed time.
Once you no longer believe that justice is achievable.
Step six, are we there?
I think we are.
Step six.
Normalization of political violence.
This is where violence stops shocking the system.
Are we there?
Remember, where violence stops shocking the system.
Look at the evidence just from Virginia.
what they just voted for.
He was calling for the death of a political opposition,
calling for his children to be killed,
was called on it, never apologized, never said anything other than,
yeah, I know, he dug it deeper.
Was anyone shocked by it?
Apparently not.
They elected him.
Here's the evidence.
2020 riots,
574 events, $2 billion in damage.
Was anybody outraged by that?
Or was it downplayed and excused?
Assassination attempts.
Assassination attempts against the president.
Supreme Court justice.
Fist fights and mob actions on college campuses to silent speakers.
Rising tolerance for punching a fascist or stopping genocide, depending on the ideology.
Online chatter discussing civil war.
divorce and revolution.
When violence becomes part of the political language, a nation crosses an invisible line.
We're now up to step seven out of nine.
This is where Joe Rogan said, are we at step seven?
The rise of militias and parallel forces.
When a state loses its monopoly on force, the countdown accelerates.
So where are we on this one?
I think we're seeing maybe early signs.
of this, you're starting to see
the states kind of organize
these mobs, you know,
to go after
ICE, right?
Armed groups, right wing,
left wing,
radical secessionist, anyone.
Once they start forming their own police
forces or their own
opposition forces,
then you have everything
really falling apart
entirely. I don't think we're there yet, but we're starting to see the beginnings of this.
Step 8, the trigger event. Civil wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark. So where are we?
We're not here yet either, but the conditions are right. Potential triggers, disputed election in 26 or 28,
political assassination or a major attack, Supreme Court decision that ignites mass unrest,
financial crisis or dollar crisis, a state federal standoff turning violent, nothing is ignited
yet, but the room is soaked in gasoline.
So we don't have seven, we are on the verge of eight at any time, and here's nine.
This is the point of no return.
When police, military, or federal agencies split, even if no one calls it that, well, where are we?
Well, I just read a story about how with the Mamdani election in New York, a good number of the police force is going to leave and they're going to go join police forces elsewhere.
You also have the tension between the State National Guard and the Federal Directives, the State Guard and the State Directives.
law enforcement recruitment is at crisis lows.
The distrust of the FBI, DOJ, CIA, tens of millions of Americans,
I always really respected those institutions.
I have no respect for them now.
If you have states openly defying federal rules on immigration, drug laws,
sanctuary policies, whistleblower claims of internal politicization,
all of these things are in.
play for the first time in 150 years people can imagine so I give this to you not to be fearful of
but to know where you are as a map know where you are and hopefully it might wake some people up
if you chart America on the nine-step model of civil war steps one through four completed step
happening. Step six, happening. Step seven, beginning. Step eight, just waiting for it. And step nine,
avoidable, only if step eight never happens. Again, I'm not telling you for doom purposes. This is
diagnosis. This is a doctor going, I want you to look at the chart. And this is a doctor saying,
I want you to look at it. Do you see what's happening to your body? If you don't stop this habit,
you are going to die.
You don't have to die.
You can stop smoking and drinking right now.
You can start exercising.
But if you don't, you are going to die.
The question is, are we the nation that says,
nah, it's not going to happen to me?
Or are we the nation that wakes up and sees our chart and goes,
good heavens, it's far, it's way out of control and far more gone than I thought it was.
but I feel something in the air.
I'm going to change my behavior.
The nation that refuses to look and wake up
and stop calling their neighbors enemies
is the nation that fails.
We have to strengthen these things that have already fallen.
And you know what the easiest one to do is?
Church, where are you ministers and pastors and priests and rabbis?
Where the hell are you?
I think there's going to be a special section for you when you cross over to the
because you're doing things in the name of God.
So when you get to the other side, I think there's going to be a special section for those
who remained silent while his rights were being taken away.
You don't own that right.
I don't own that right.
The Lord gave us those rights and said, protect them by you being the represent
the voice box, if you will, of the Lord to shepherd his people, by you not standing up and saying,
hey, by the way, we have a, we have a moral responsibility to protect these rights for the next
generation by you refusing because you're afraid, because you think there's no politics in the
Bible? There's no politics in the Bible, really? The whole thing is about politics is about
the moral way you have to live your life, calling things as you see them, calling them back to
eternal principles. He didn't tell anybody how to vote. Render it in Caesar's what Caesar's.
But there are certain principles that you have to have, or you lose not only this citizenship,
but the next citizenship, the one that really matters. And boy, if you are doing it because
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they forget. But these two states are the strongest in the nation and Texas just keeps pummeling
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is going to take on this time,
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Hey, I'm doing great. How are you doing? I'm good. It's not my birthday. And you are a brilliant man.
And I wish I would have thought of this. It's your birthday today. And you married a woman who has
the same birthday. So you never forget her birthday. Brilliant.
You know, very simple. I wanted to make sure I married a wife whose birthday, I would never be
forget. But of course, she would tell you she's much younger than I am.
Well, welcome to the program. We're glad you here. Let's stop, let's start talking about
property taxes in Texas. They're out of control. And I know people who were born and bred in Texas,
and they've said the same thing. Politicians always talk about changing property tax. And it's
never done. So why is this promise from you different? So I will tell you about the five solutions
that I have announced in my reelection campaign, but before that, to discuss it appropriately,
I need to set it up correctly. And that is, very important for listeners to understand in the state
of Texas, and that is the state of Texas, and that is the state does not impose property taxes.
Property taxes and Texas are imposed only by local jurisdictions that could be schools,
cities, counties, other local taxing jurisdictions. Even though the state doesn't oppose a property tax,
and hence in the legislature we can't go in and say, well, we're going to cut this property tax.
What we have done is we have used state money to try to buy down the local property taxes,
especially the school district property taxes. This last session that we just completed earlier this year,
we used $51 billion of state money, which is a quarter of state money, which is a quarter of
of all our state funds to buy down property tax rates. And when Texans open up their property tax bill
this next time, they are going to see the property taxes have decreased. However, Glenn, this is
the problem because this is what we've been dealing with year after year. And that is even though
we are able to buy down property tax rates, the local taxing jurisdictions go behind our back
and they start pumping up those property taxes again.
And so the benefit that we provide to our taxpayers is fleeting.
So I have four, five solutions to make sure we are going to put the end to the skyrocketing local poverty taxes.
Number one, there's only one reason why poverty taxes would go up in the first place,
and that's because of out-of-control spending at the local level.
and the state of Texas has four constitutional limitations on our ability to increase spending.
Local governments don't have that.
Local governments have to live within their means, just like families and just like the state has to live with our means.
And so we want to impose spending limits on local government that are common sense to make sure that they are not spending in a way that increases property taxes.
What does that mean?
How do you make a spending limit?
Well, for example, in the state of Texas, one of our constitutional spending limits is our spending cannot increase more than the aggregation of population, growth, and inflation, or 3%, whichever is the loan.
And so, in other words, if your population is going a whole lot, obviously you've got to spend more on roads and different things like that.
Or if inflation is going through the roof, you've got to find a way to keep up with that so you can buy,
the appropriate food, all that kind of stuff. But, you know, to be honest, population and inflation
growth only aggregates about 3% a year. So that's one of the ways. Another thing I'll tell you,
that is in Austin, Texas, which is one of the worst defenders in the state of Texas. Their population
growth has been roughly flat for the past 10 years, and despite that fact, their property taxes
have increased almost double in that time period. And so clearly,
Austin is spending far in excess of population growth plus inflation.
And we see that in some, yeah, exactly, so many cities across the state.
Another thing that has to be done on the spending side is to stop the deficit spending.
The state cannot go into a deficit.
And actually, we have the largest budget surplus of any city in the United States.
But local taxing authorities sometimes increase property taxes to take care of deficits,
and that means they have a spending problem, and that has to be corrected.
So that's item number one.
Item number two is that no property tax should ever be increased
without it being voted on by the public and require a two-thirds vote to approve it.
That alone is a tax.
Yeah, so hardly any taxes would be increased.
It requires a two-thirds vote of all the people who are going to be voting on that.
Another thing is to put the power in the hands of the people to slash their own property taxes.
If 15% of residents petition to put on the ballot, a property tax rate rollback, they will get to vote on reducing their own property tax rates in that jurisdiction so they can slash.
Oh, my gosh, that's good.
And then one thing that's kind of frightening to Texans is whenever they get to,
their property appraisal bill. The property appraisals just skyrockets year after year after year
and they fear even opening up that bill in the first place. And the way that it works in Texas is
the property appraisal that you get is done frequently and it is allowed to increase 10% a year.
And that means that the valuation on which your property is going to be tax goes through the roof.
and that is one of the key drivers that makes having a home and owning a home less affordable in Texas.
I want to change that to have the appraisal done only once every five years,
and to put an annual cap on that, reduce it from a 10% increase to no more than a 3% increase per year.
And then the last thing.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
No, the last thing.
The last thing is every year that I've been governor, we have had the public vote on constitutional amendments concerning property taxes, but never before have we offered up what I'm about to tell you, which would be the one that would really curtail it.
In Texas, the largest part of your property tax is the school district property tax.
and what we want to do for homeowners who have a homestead in the state of Texas is to allow them to vote on a constitutional amendment that would ban a school district property tax for homesteads in Texas.
Meaning what exactly?
That if you're...
Meaning that the largest part of your property tax bill, which is about two-thirds of it, is school districts.
People have a homestead in Texas would never again pay a property tax.
on the school district property tax bill.
Who's paying the bill then for the school, the state?
The state.
Yeah, the state would pick up that cost.
So we went to be clear.
Yeah, we would have to fund education that the state of Texas would fully pay for that cost.
Wow.
Can I ask you something?
Do you find in principle, I think property tax is the most immoral tax we have?
with a property tax, one never truly owns their land.
And that's, I mean, that is the American dream to be able to own your own piece of land.
With a property tax, you don't own it.
You're renting it from the local government or the state or whoever is imposing that tax.
And it's just not right.
Do you agree with that or not?
Well, of course.
And what, what this, these solutions do,
it returns the power to the homeowner to be able to control their own property tax and to slash it left and right.
And it feels like for once they're finally able to live within their own home and own it without being burdened by the state or local government.
Are you going to be able to get this through the House and the Senate?
So, you know, this has such common sense, Glenn, you would think that we would.
I will tell you, there's opposition to some of these elements in both the House and Senate.
But I'll tell you something else.
I don't know if you follow what I'm about to tell you, and that is this last session,
I was able to finally push and get across the finish line, school choice in the set of Texas.
I want you to know that every year that I've been governor, I sought to get school choice passed.
And then session two years ago, I tried to get it passed.
and we didn't get it done in a regular session.
I called four special sessions to get school choice passed, and it never passed.
But the last one I said, listen, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
The easy way you guys just go ahead and vote on school choice.
If you don't vote on school choice, I'm going to go to the campaign trail,
and I'm going to win this issue at the ballot box,
and we will defeat anybody who does not support school choice.
I'm using that same methodology to make sure that we get this proper.
tax reform passed. There are people who are both Republicans and Democrats who are going to push back
about some of these elements I just told you about. All of these elements are needed. If we're going to
have lasting property tax belief. And hence, I'm on the campaign trail already. I was in Tyler,
Texas yesterday. I'm going to be in Temple, Texas today. I'm going to be crisscrossing the state to
make sure that we are getting the buy-in support that's going to be needed when we get into the
next session that we're finally going to enact the measures that are necessary to ensure
homeowners can genuinely live in their own home without being taxed out of their own property.
I think that's fabulous.
Governor, thank you very much.
Good luck to you.
We'll talk again.
Governor Greg Abbott from the great state of Texas.
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What do you think of those five points, Stu, for property tax?
As someone who has to pay property tax in Texas, I like them quite a bit.
That would be great, especially as a person who's also paying for a separate school,
the idea of not paying the school tax.
And I know he was on a tight window there.
Greg Abbott.com, if you want more information about the campaign.
but I'm curious as to how the state pays if we get rid of all those local taxes for the schools.
He mentioned the state would pick up the cost.
And I know he's not talking about an income tax.
There's no income tax here, which is why, you know, the property taxes are on the higher side.
But I would make that trade.
I'm fine with that trade.
But I'd love to get them lower to non-existent.
You know, I'd say that.
The problem is when, you know, it's your neighbors, honestly, that go.
to the ballot box and they'll vote in
Texas, I'm not kidding you, for
a high school stadium
$80 million
okay?
In fact, so nice
the Dallas Cowboys will
practice there, okay?
And I mean, it just never ends.
And you're like to the, everybody in your
neighborhood, you're like, what are you doing?
Oh man, it's going to be great to have this.
You know you're paying for it, right?
They just, I don't know why they don't
connect that with their property tax because then they immediately bitch about their property tax.
And you're like, yeah, you're the one who voted for the $80 million high school stadium.
What's wrong with you?
But I think he solves that by the debt issue because it always happens.
People will always vote for, do you want this in the neighborhood?
Yeah, I like that idea.
And they never tie it.
It's such a tough one because everyone likes new things.
You know, people like it when you build new fancy buildings and facilities in the town.
And they almost always pass.
Always.
It's fascinating.
And then, of course, you're right.
They just complain about the taxes.
And this doesn't even go into the fact that, you know, stadium's different.
But a lot of times these are building businesses, essentially, that are competitors to actual businesses in the community.
You know, the example.
Is that just a Texas thing?
Oh, I think that's happening all over the country.
I mean, if you have a, if you have a rec center, right, that is a, you know, has a gym facility that they're offering memberships in your town.
This is happening in your town where, you know, like someone who is built a gym business, you know, they've spent the money and they're trying to market it.
And now they are competing with a government-sponsored business that is paying for the business with taxpayer dollars.
even their competitors tax payer dollars.
Why is it we don't see that?
I mean, we know government grocery stores in New York.
Bad idea.
That's a great point.
Why don't we know that about this?
I mean, I guess because they, you know, in Texas at least, they'll make it work.
And so it just doesn't spiral out of control and then just be a crap hole that has to close down.
So I guess maybe it's like, well, this was really, really.
better. Yeah, but the principle is wrong. The principles are you putting other people out of work.
You're taking the entrepreneurial spirit and just crushing it. Yeah, basically, I just don't think
people think about it. Honestly, I think people like that their communities, maybe a little bit of a
better place, and they don't mind dabbling into what is essentially socialism. I mean, it really
is a dabble into socialism when you do things like that. And most of the time, I think people just
you know, this is an accepted part of small town or mid, mid city life, right?
Like, where you just do these things and the government does provide certain facilities that we all, you know, just are okay with.
And, you know, like a library is an example of this, an extreme example where, like, you know, like, hey, your tax dollars are going to pay for a bookstore where all the books are free.
Like, what does that mean to someone who wants to open a bookstore?
Or like there's a, there's a difference.
I mean, the library, I think, you know, you know, most, a lot of our libraries were started by, you know, one of the robber barons, Carnegie.
Yeah.
And he built these, these beautiful libraries all over the country, small towns, big towns, all over the country.
Because he said that is the key to getting someplace.
That's a key to not being a slave.
and I want to make sure that every
poor child has access
to what he called then, a
King's Library. Every book that is in the
King's Library should be
in every hometown. And so he paid
for it. I think that's fabulous.
And that is the case in some
situations. But I mean, you know, it's the same
argument they make with a gym.
They're like, oh, well, this is healthy for the community.
People need to have access to be able to go exercise.
Like, there's always an... There's always a difference,
always an argument, right?
But the principle, a lot of times, it gets
left behind.
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The Torch at glenbeck.com. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I don't know if you saw the number one song
on the Billboard music charts. I want to talk about this in depth tomorrow. But it is a number.
one on the country music
Billboard charts.
I want you to listen to it.
Go ahead.
Then be down,
but I don't stay low.
Got mud on my jeans.
Still ready to go.
Every scars a story
that I survived.
I've been through hell,
but I'm still alive.
They said slow down, boy,
don't go too fast,
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been one to live in the past I keep moving forward never looking back with a one out hat and a six-string
stretch you can kick rocks if you don't like how I talk I'm gonna keep on talking and walk my walk
ain't changing my tone ain't changing my song I was born this away been loud too long you can hate my
style you can roll your eyes but I ain't slowing down
I was born to rise.
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Okay, so the interesting thing about this song is that guy who's singing that was,
has not been talking for a long time.
He has not been walking for a long time.
In fact, he was not born long ago.
He's not real.
That's AI.
The number one song on the Billboard country music chart is AI.
AI.
I have to tell you, some of my favorite music is coming from AI right now.
And I don't know how to feel about it.
You know, we just, it wasn't too long ago that we thought, oh, well, it's never going to be able to do that.
It can't, you know, art is the music, art is the window to the soul.
How is AI?
If you look at some of the lyrics of this song, it, I mean, it talks about how he's been dragged through the mud.
he's, you know, had to really stand.
I mean, it doesn't know any of that stuff.
None of it is real.
And yet it is assembling it in a way that is so appealing.
It's number one on the Billboard country music chart.
If that and this one,
I want to focus tomorrow, I want to talk to you about college.
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What are you doing?
If you're in college, what are you doing?
If you're thinking about college, what are you thinking?
because the whole world is about to change.
You know, I just heard Elon Musk say that in five years, there's not going to be phones or apps.
I mean, think, I want you to think about this.
There won't be phones or apps.
It will just be some sort of a box or device that you kind of carry around with you.
And it's listening, it's, it's anticipating, it's AI, it's an agent AI.
and it will know what you want to hear, what you want,
and it will create the music you want to hear.
It will create the podcast you want to hear.
It will do all of this stuff for you.
So we will be even in our own universe even more than we are right now.
But if AI can fake being a human and sing soulfully while not having a soul,
what does it mean to be a human?
I have been asking this question and been saying, Stu, since the 90s.
I have been saying, we have to have a conversation on what does it mean to be human?
What does it mean to be alive?
Because there's going to come a time when you won't know what it means.
Are we there yet, Stu, are we there?
It's a good question.
I mean, I think we know what it means to be human, but I think the ways that we have short-handed that over the years are dissolving, right?
Like, you know, when he come up with what seems like original thought, we might all be able to acknowledge that something that AI turns out is not an original thought, but it certainly seems like it to most.
And I think a lot of people won't care.
Like, people won't care if it is made by humans or not if they like it.
and they seem to like it.
And while there will, I think, be a real pushback by some against this stuff,
just like, you know, I have a bunch of friends who are into the horror movie practical effects world where they are like,
I like going.
That's why I like to watch horror movies because they use real fake blood or whatever.
Yeah, I know.
You know, it's a weird dedication.
It's not my thing.
I don't care.
you know, when I go to a movie, if it's CGI and it looks real, I don't care.
But they love the fact that it's being made by, you know, practical effects.
And if that's, there will always be some interest in that, I think.
There will always be some interest in watching someone doing something manually that a machine could do easier, easier and some ways better.
But like, and it becomes niche after a while, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Handmade is going to come back into style.
At some point, handmade.
human made will come back into style.
But we are going, we are, we're going to go through a period where it's going to get really scary because, I mean, if a machine can, if a machine can sing soulfully and not have a soul, what does, what does that mean?
If it can sculpt beauty, generate things that can make you cry.
But it, how does it know how it doesn't have anything real inside of it?
If it can imitate genius, then what is our genius?
What does that mean?
Let me start this conversation.
We're going to go into this more on tomorrow's program,
but let me just start this with when you start to ask yourself,
what does it mean to be a human?
A machine can produce and it can produce and will produce better than you can,
but it cannot care.
It cannot actually care.
It can calculate, but it cannot love.
a machine can imitate suffering.
It can relate to suffering.
It can sing songs soulfully like it is suffered,
but it can never walk through the valley of suffering.
It can analyze morality,
but it can't instinctively choose right and wrong
because it's serving a higher power.
It has no conscience.
It has no courage.
It has no.
has no soul. It will never put itself between danger and a child. It will never forgive because
it's never really offended. It will never sacrifice. It will never bury a friend and carry that
little piece of grief with them for the rest of their lives. There's something different
about humans and it is, it's not about what we can do. It is everything about the divine
spark. Only humans can look at something and say, damn it, I know all the odds are against me.
All reason goes against this, but I'm going to build it instead. I'm going to rebuild.
Only humans hear the call of from deep within the, the whispering of the spirit or the ancient
whispers, the machines will never hear saying live for something greater than yourself.
There is something more out there.
Only humans can take suffering and learn compassion.
Only humans can take fear and turn it into courage and bravery.
Only humans can take history and turn it into real wisdom.
We are making artificial minds, but we are not making artificial life.
But as these artificial minds begin to get better and better and their tools become better and better,
it should not make us smaller.
It should make us ask bigger questions.
Who am I?
Why am I here?
What is the purpose of life?
The questions that man has been asking since the dawn of time,
what am I willing to endure for the sake of truth?
What am I willing to stand up for?
What is worth living for?
What is worth dying for?
What is the purpose of the freedom that I have right now?
Is there a purpose?
What's the spark inside of me that no machine will ever be able to copy?
No algorithm can simulate.
No code can counterfeit.
What makes me unique?
That answer is going to be found in each of us, in each of our hearts.
And it's this weird, mysterious furnace where reason meets faith and not.
memory becomes meaning and the divine echoes inside of us, reminding us that we are individuals,
that we are here for a purpose, that we can be forgiven, we can get stronger, we can rebuild,
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That's what makes us humans and machines will not understand that.
Being human isn't what we can produce because you're going to see it's producing
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I'm an artist. I don't paint for anybody else.
I don't paint to sell my paintings.
I don't, I paint because there's something inside of me that compels me to do it.
That is human.
It can reproduce my brushstrokes and make them better.
It can borrow our melodies.
It can echo our stories, but it cannot replace the things that make us human, the ability to forge meaning out of all of the things that we have suffered through.
The age of machines is rising, and it is going to diminish.
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What is that stirring inside of me?
You may not find it, but recognize that stirring inside of you.
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It doesn't have to diminish us.
It can refine us.
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Hey, Glenn.
Yeah, I was calling in.
I heard you talking earlier about, you know, the outrageous taxes in Texas.
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about you want to talk about
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how shoot,
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Senator John Kennedy, how good to have you on, sir.
Glenn, it's good to be with you, man.
Thanks for having me.
I want to talk to you about your new book, which I can't wait.
But let's start with the reopening of the government.
I think this is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
We're only reopening until January.
They're going to do this again.
Are they not?
Yeah, maybe they earned a lesson.
I mean, here's what happened, Glenn.
What, seven weeks ago, the country was just,
rocking along, minding its own business.
Our budget was about to run out,
but we were talking with the Democrats about negotiating the new one.
And all of a sudden at the last minute,
some consumer came to us and said,
I'm going to stop negotiating.
I'm going to tell my people to vote to shut government down
unless you give me $1.5 trillion.
You gut the one big beautiful bill like a fish,
and you extend the Obama.
care subsidies.
Well, I mean, you know, I'd rather, I'd rather have a back-alley colonoscopy than vote for
something like that.
And my colleagues felt the same way.
So we told Chuck, said, Chuck short answers no.
The long answer is hell, though.
And Chuck just, I mean, his demands, Glenn, you had to have a, you had to have an Excel spreadsheet.
to track them. It was so
unsurious. And so we just
sat there and we didn't give up anything
and eventually he had to go to
five or six of his colleagues
to get him to bail him out.
And that's why we're where we are.
Was this just
about election?
Was this just about the election? What was this for?
Oh, it was politics. It has to do with
Senator Schumer's politics.
The Bolshevik wing,
the loon wing,
of his party.
He's scared of him.
He should be.
Instead of standing up to them,
I think his testicles are on back order from China
because he just wanted them,
he just wanted them to love him.
They don't love him.
They're never going to love him.
Congresswoman O'Kfield-Cortez
is either going to,
if the Democrats take over,
the house, he's either going to be the new
speaker, or she's going to run
against Schumer, or she's going to run for
president, and her wing of the
party, the Bolshevik wing,
is in control.
That's what's going on.
What do you think of John Federman?
I really like John.
His
health has gotten a lot better.
He, he,
I sort of, he's a little bit like me.
We don't agree on politics, but
He plays outside the pocket.
He says what he thinks.
He's very popular in Pennsylvania.
Now, he's not popular among the loon wing of his party.
And so he could have problems in a primary, but statewide people find him as I do, refreshing.
Let me just tick off a couple of other things here real quick.
Philibuster.
I just talked to the White House.
this week and they're dead serious about getting rid of the filibuster and I said,
you know, maybe reform it, maybe go back to the way it was.
But please let's not get rid of the speed bump of the filibuster.
And they're convinced that we'll never get anything passed.
And the comment was these people that were working against are completely unsurious.
They don't want the same kind of America.
How do we get anything past when they are roadblocking absolutely everything?
How do you respond to that?
Well, I talked to the president, I don't know, last week.
I mean, he's dug in like a tick.
I like the filibuster.
When I got to the Senate, Glenn, I didn't.
But I finally learned that the role of the senator is really twofold.
Of course, it's to advance good ideas, but it's also to kill bad ideas.
and we killed a lot of bad ideas with the filibuster when Joe Biden was president.
My preference, and I've been encouraging Senator Foon, who I don't think he agrees with me,
but we passed one big, beautiful bill without a single Democratic vote, and it's a marvelous bill.
and we did it through reconciliation about which you know.
And we can do two more reconciliation bills.
And for seven weeks, eight weeks, a couple months, we've done nothing in the Senate.
We need to get up off our ice coal lazy butts and go pass another reconciliation bill
that addresses the cost of housing and the cost of health insurance and the cost of living,
the things that moms and dads are worried about when they lie down to sleep at night and can't.
But I don't sense that the president's going to give up on it.
Right now, I can tell you if Thune brought it up for a vote among the Republicans, it wouldn't pass.
It would not pass.
How do you feel about the Supreme Court?
Where are they going to come down on these tariffs and the role of the Senate?
Well, I don't know how they're going to come down.
And I listened to the oral argument.
I didn't go over there, but I could get it by audio.
And they asked the questions I thought they would.
The president is arguing that he's construing the statute.
IEPA is saying this is a foreign policy decision,
and traditionally the U.S. Supreme Court does not interfere with the executive branch
when it is addressing foreign policy.
The questions from the justices, with the exception,
of a couple seem to be long lines of, well, is it really foreign policy? And the statute is plain,
and it doesn't mention tariffs. But I learned long ago you never predict what the court's going to
do based on oral argument. They'll fool you. What do you think the right thing is?
You know, I've got really, I don't know. I've got really mixed feelings about tariffs.
There's no question the president is right that for years and years and years, other countries have taken advantage of America, particularly China.
We admitted China to the World Trade Organization.
I think it was December 9, 2001.
China started cheating December 10th.
and I like the idea of reining them in through tariffs.
If I had my druthers, here's what I would propose.
I don't think the president would agree with me,
but I would go to every one of these countries and say,
here's the deal.
If you reduce your tariffs to zero,
America will reduce its tariffs to zero.
And then we'll let our companies compete
on a level playing field and made the best product at the best price win.
And I think America will win that fight.
Now, the president, I can tell you, I've talked to him.
He doesn't see it that way.
No, he doesn't.
We're talking to Senator John Kennedy.
He is one of my favorite senators.
And I think you've been, if you've been listening in the last couple of minutes, you know why.
graduated Vanderbilt University, University of Virginia, and Oxford.
That I would have paid money to see you at Oxford.
That had to be entertaining for all involved.
We're going to come back and take one minute break,
and then we're going to talk to him about this new book,
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He's just written a new book called How to Test Negative for Stupid and why Washington never will.
Senator, tell me about the book.
You're asking, Glenn, it's not a policy book per se.
It's a story book.
I use stories to make my points about policy.
some of the stories are funny. Some are bizarre. They're all true. I talk about...
Wait, wait, what do you mean? What do you mean some of them are bizarre? What does that mean?
Well, they're just strange to see the Senate what it's like on the inside. And I don't just talk about the Senate. I talk about my meeting with the one and only meeting. I was one of the few senators who met for any length of time with Senator Joe Biden.
that was bizarre and it was early in his term um he showed me around his office well he he he he
i remember um we talked for a while his staff's trying to get rid of me we were there for a
bill signing he asked me to ask me if i'd seen his cabinet room and i said no i had seen it but i said
no sir and so he said i'm going to take you over there and it's maybe 20 yards away and uh you
could have baked a
Thanksgiving turkey in the time
it took him to walk
from his
over over to
the cat. And I remember thinking at the time
this gentleman
has reached the point in life where all he
wants to do is sit around
and talk about the old days
and tell stories and when
he gets tired he just wants soup
in an early bedtime.
And this was his first
year. Nice guy. Very
capable. I wouldn't call him
a policy maiden.
The people around him were
running the country.
But I just
thought the whole thing was bizarre.
You don't believe, you don't believe,
you don't believe them at all that they didn't know,
right? I mean, there was no way to be.
We saw it from a distance.
I mean, of course
they knew. I mean, I listened to
them so I had no
no idea you know and and I'm thinking to my set self you know I'll take exquisitely dumb for
500 of course you knew you know you had you had to know you could see it and this was in this
first year the president clearly had the beginnings again in the first year of his
presidency of neurodegenerative disease I mean we all it happened
to us to many people at that age.
And he wouldn't have made it through a second turn.
I'm sorry, he wouldn't have.
Can I ask you something?
Who did you grow up with my, when I grew up,
I tell stories in the way my grandfather used to tell stories.
I remember sitting at his feet and he would just tell stories.
You have such a unique way of telling stories
and all of these phrases that just pop into,
your head.
Who did you, where did you get that?
Is that what, is that what life is like?
Where did you grow up?
You grew up in Zachary, Louisiana?
Is that, yeah.
Little bitty town.
Is that what it's like there?
Yeah.
Yeah, when I grew up, it's, it's much bigger now because of the schools are so good.
But when I grew up, there's about 3,000 people.
We, we, we didn't have a town drunk.
We were that small.
Several people had to take turns.
everybody
knew everybody
you didn't lie
I loved high school
I cared about two
I'd go back in a second
I cared about two things Glenn
I cared about basketball
and I cared about cheerleaders
and I wasn't very good at either one
but man it was so much fun trying
but I learned a lot
growing up in Zachar
I want to wait to school for about
I don't know 10 years as long as I could
could stay in school and then came back home.
What was it like at Oxford?
You had to be just this bizarre,
something that nobody could figure out over there.
Well, it took them a while to learn how to learn my speech patterns.
And I realize that my voice sets off car alarms,
but that's just my voice.
and my accent, but Oxford was an extraordinary experience.
It's the greatest university in the world.
It's the smartest kids in the world.
And I wanted to understand what it was like to compete with the best.
And I remember the kid that lived next door to me in the dorm,
actually in the college, when I first went in to see him the first day,
I was there.
He had a book on his,
his bed and I actually asked him to turn down his stereo.
And I said, what are you doing, man?
He was like 18 years old, big bushy red hair, acne.
And he said, I'm teaching myself Mandarin.
And I said, hmm, you speak any other languages?
And he named five or six.
And I mean, I'm thinking this kid can spot me about 60 IQ points.
But that's why I came just to compete with, see what it's like.
But it was, I liked it.
The name of the book is how to test negative for stupid and why Washington never will.
Is there any hope that they'll ever test negative?
You're going to have just, you quoted me earlier.
You're just going to have to get the pigs out of the Greek.
Look, it's not complicated.
The problem is that the common sense is illegal in Washington.
I mean, really, when I feel inadequate,
in Washington, because there are a lot of smart people there.
But when I feel inadequate, Glenn, I just look around.
I mean, some of these folks, you go, how did these people make it to the birth canal?
And the rest of America just looks at them, slack-jawed, in astonishment.
And they don't understand, they don't, that's why they all hate Trump so much.
It is because he sees the world in very practical,
common,
sensical terms.
I mean,
is the president
perfect?
No.
Does he work
every day to get better?
Also, no.
The president is the president.
He's,
his personality is about it.
But he's not just sitting there.
He's trying to change the place.
And I'm supporting.
Now,
I'll play with him.
Go ahead.
He'll call me.
And, you know,
every time he calls,
I wonder if I'll end up.
up with a sombrero on my head because he's mad, but at least he knows where I stand.
John Kennedy is the senator from the great state of Louisiana. His new book is How to Test Negative for
Stupid. Like you said, it's not a policy book. It's stories, and there is no greater storyteller
than John Kennedy. Grab the book now, How to Test Negative for Stupid. John, Senator, thank you so much.
Thank you, Glenn. Love your show, man.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Justin Haskins is joining us.
He's from the Heartland Institute, Vice President, and also senior fellow at our Republic.
He's got a new book coming out.
We're going to talk about that when the book comes out.
But I want to talk to him about the AI Strongman concept that he's just put a new poll together.
And we release some of it on politics and what did the socialism mean?
and how the economy feels to people 18 to 39 years old.
And we talked about that last night on TV,
but Justin's come in today because of AI.
And what else he found in the poll.
Hey, Justin, how are you?
I'm doing very well.
Well, I don't know.
It's pretty dark.
This is a dark poll, folks.
So buckle up.
What, I mean, bringing down the room.
You know, it's so funny is we just, we just had this great conversation with Senator Kennedy.
It was very funny.
Light makes you feel good.
And then during the break,
Justin gives Stu some unbelievable gift.
Yes.
For no just because.
You're trying to be a better Charlie Kirk person.
I'm trying to be a better person.
I am.
I'm trying.
It's a legitimate Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Signed jersey.
He's literally the only person that I've ever met in my life who likes the Toronto Blue Jays.
Literally.
I saw it and I was like, I got to do it.
It's a sign.
It's incredible.
But I seriously thank you.
And it heals a little bit of our horrific, tragic loss from a few weeks ago that I still
am grieving.
So I appreciate that.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Was that being used as a bar towel someplace?
It was incredible.
It was one of the greatest post seasons of all time, Glenn.
Come on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
But so I'm waiting for my gift.
Oh, yeah.
No, I have one.
I do.
I'm not ready to give it to you yet, though.
That's all.
Here is, here is Justin's.
gift. He's going to bring the whole room down.
Okay. Here we go. Here we go.
And it's not good.
Listen to this. No. So we pulled a national survey of likely voters 18 to 39. So we're
talking about young people. We asked them about socialism and the housing crisis and a million
other things. And all those results were horribly depressing. They love socialism. They love
Mom Donnie. They love Mom Donnie's policies. What's amazing is where they learn
socialism from. Stu, who is the biggest influence on 1839-year-olds on socialism? Where did they hear
about it and get a good impression? Ah, gosh, universities? Sarah, what would you say?
Same universities.
Universities. Not even in the top three, is it? No, not even close. The number one response,
go ahead. It was parents, by far. We asked. We asked.
Ask them, who influenced you the most with these socialists that made you want to support socialism.
It was parents and grandparents where two of the top answers.
Online videos and books and stuff like that came in later.
And teachers were like toward the very bottom, teachers and college professors toward the very bottom.
In fact, there was no correlation, really, between someone saying that their teachers and their college professors were trying, were pro-socialist and how these people voted.
even people who said, yeah, my teachers were a bunch of socialists, they voted for Trump
kind of at the same rate as the people who voted for Kamala.
So at least according to the respondents themselves, it didn't have any sort of an impact.
Really interesting.
That's bizarre.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now, here's the question.
Here's question number one.
Significant advancements have been made in the fields of artificial intelligence and data
collection, causing some to suggest that AI could take a more influential role in society.
many Americans are unhappy with the effectiveness of federal and state government officials, agencies, and politicians.
If AI were to continue to improve, would you support a proposal to take power away from most human lawmakers and give it to an advanced AI system with the authority to control the majority of public policy decisions?
You're a dark brain, man, I come up with these questions.
Stu and I talked yesterday about how I come up with these things.
So it is so dark, right?
You would hope that the, you know, you would go, oh, well, it's got to be 90% opposed, okay?
Otherwise, it's not so dark.
If it's not 90% opposed, then it's not a dark concept.
It's possibly a dark reality.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the results.
Strongly support, somewhat support combined.
41% of young people said, yes.
Put AI in charge of policymakers.
And it was 15% somewhat opposed, 34% strong.
strongly opposed. Just 34% strongly opposed this. 10% they're on the fence, still not sure about
this one. They're thinking about it. So this could go either way. That 10% could break either way.
It could be that the AI is winning this election, if you will. Even crazier is support among
Republicans was highest among all of the different political groups. They were most likely to say
Young Republicans, that was at 46%.
Independence were, I think, least likely to do it.
So conservatives, very high.
It was over 50% with conservatives said this.
And I think it's because, and this was a theme throughout this poll
and other polls we've done recently of young people.
They have so little trust in the system.
They hate it so much.
They think it's so unfair to them that they will literally do,
they will put anyone in charge.
That's why I call this theory the AI strongman.
Like they are looking for a strongman.
Young people want someone to come in and just get things done and do whatever it is that they think is right.
That's very clear from the polling data.
And we've seen this now from multiple polls, not just one, multiple polls, national surveys of likely voters of young people.
Okay, listen to the next question.
It just keeps getting better.
Many Americans are dissatisfied with the U.S. Constitution and the Supreme.
Supreme Court. If AI continues to improve, would you support a proposal to revise the
Constitution? So an advanced AI system has the authority to determine the rights that belong
to individuals and families, including the rights related to speech, religious practices,
government authority, and property. Yep. 36% strongly support or somewhat support. And it was
38% strongly opposed. Somewhat opposed was 18%. So this was,
is clear opposition to this. They're less likely to support this than just putting, you know,
policymaking generally in charge. But still, we're still talking about a huge percentage of,
of young people, 36 percent. And Republicans, again, 39 percent of Republicans said,
yes, let's do this. And so. And honestly, if you say yes to the first one, the second one is
automatic. You would think so. But the, but the first one was the highest.
of all the ones that we tested.
It was,
which kind of makes sense
because I think people hate
politicians the most
and that was what we were talking about, right?
But what I'm saying is if you put,
right,
but if you put AI in charge,
then it's going to do the other ones.
All you need is the first one
to be voted on and go,
yeah,
I want to put them in charge.
100%.
The next one,
military conflicts continue to rage around the world,
including Ukraine.
If AI continues to improve,
would you support a proposal
to give an advanced AI
system, the authority to control all of the world's largest militaries with the express purpose
of reducing the number of people who would die from war. This is my favorite, one of the favorite
questions I've ever written. I love this question. 35% strongly support, somewhat support. Very
similar to the constitutional, the Supreme Court question. Higher strong opposition, 40%. That's the
highest of all the strong opposition. But the thing that's so terrifying about all these is not just,
well, it's 35%, 40%, somewhere in that range,
want AI to basically take over huge parts of our society.
It's that AI is still not all that great.
So once AI becomes even better,
it's so clearly smarter than people,
and it's already embedded in a lot of systems,
this is going to go up.
This isn't going to go down.
It's not like we're looking at this.
It's like, well, you know, they'll see the light.
No, I don't think so.
I think as AI improves, people are going to be more open to this idea.
It's, it's the, and the foundation of it is trust the experts, right?
Trust the experts.
Yeah.
But also what's easy and likable.
I mean, think of this.
We would have said two years ago, I'll never listen to AI music.
AI music, I mean, it's never going to be as good.
It's not going to, you know, how can it talk about the soul and it won't be from the heart and everything else?
And now it, an AI artist, if you will.
an AI song, all AI, is the number one song on the country music billboard charts.
Number one, once it's so good, you're just like, yeah, I just, yeah, that's good.
I mean, that's just the way it's going to happen.
It's just going to happen that way.
It's interesting, too, these are questions obviously based on policy and structural changes
within the society and the government, but when you look at it on an individual level
where people don't have those sort of hurdles to clear, right?
They can just do it if they want to, right?
I mean, AI is already at least partially replacing doctors, lawyers, you know, parents, right?
Like, I mean, I can't tell you how many people I know are just like on there.
Oh, gosh, my kid won't do X, Y, or Z.
How can I make this happen?
Click it into chat, GPT, give you recommendations.
And they put the, like, that's very, I would say, normalized already.
And as you point out, it's not even good.
But if you're, if you're using it, though,
If you're using it for advice and it's one voice in counsel,
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
This is the step.
This is the next step.
Just give it over.
Just give control of your kids to the AI.
Right.
Should AI, you know, teach your kids everything.
Yeah, well, and think about kids.
I mean, especially as they get older and there's a generation of kids who are growing up,
going to grow up with this, who didn't have it.
Like in the same way that I didn't grow up with social media, you didn't grow up with social media.
there's going to be kids who grow up with AI.
And it's just going to become a thing where, of course, I go to it and I ask it, the
questions I don't want to ask anybody else or talk to my parents about.
It's Google.
It is one, it's going to have one of the most negative impacts on society, probably that we've
ever seen, truly.
And as it trusted more, it's going to get worse.
Yeah, there's no question about it.
Is that true? That's how you feel, Glenn, no probably about it.
I mean, you seem to be also sort of an AI, you know, optimist at times.
I mean, there's a lot of good things.
I think there is, I think it is like everything.
It is the greatest tool ever invented by man.
It is the most empowering tool ever invented by, there is nothing even close to it.
It is also the poison pill for humanity.
And it just depends on if we say stop, you know, at some point, do we have any limits?
I don't think we do.
I don't think we do.
when you have Sam Altman openly talking about trying to create Sam God or God Sam,
that's a problem.
That's a problem.
So there are people who are actually trying to create something that would be godlike.
That's not good for humanity.
No, there's a story about that in the Bible, I think.
One or two of them.
The thing is, you need to have with this.
kind of powerful technology, you need guardrails. You need guardrails on society. You need people
to have those guardrails for reasons other than government creating them. And the problem is as we've
become less religious and we've moved more into this secular sort of society where there really
is no objective standard for anything, we're all just, a lot of people are just kind of doing what feels
right or whatever, you know, and this is why we see one day you could have Barack Obama be the
pro
traditional marriage
candidate
and then the next day
if you're not pro
trans then you're thrown
out of the party
and you're the worst
person ever
and that was like
within a decade
that that transformation
happened
that's because
there's no
rules
there's no
objective standard
of morality
and so then
when you add
this into the
equation
I mean
this is
it's the
it is a
perfect storm
that is
what's developing
right now
yeah
I think you know what
the best thing is
going to be
really interesting to see how we all work.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it, Justin.
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AI
not actually we don't have either of those guys
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let me tell you something
I'm going to play some audio here that both Stu and I absolutely wholeheartedly agree with.
This is Charlemagne the God about Jasmine Crockett.
Listen.
Jasmine Crockett is actually what the Democrats should be leaning into.
Yes.
Because she is a phenomenal messenger.
Just the fact that she was able to articulate that in that three-minute clip that I saw,
and it was so powerful and so provocative, and you understood what the root of her is.
issue was and she got you by just saying,
Donald Trump is racist and this administration is racist
and let me tell you why and then you get into all of the issues.
I'm like, yo, you need somebody like Jasmine Crocket.
She is the most effective messenger
that the Democratic Party has right now.
And they need to be using her as a Trojan horse.
And you know what?
I hate how Democrats treat her.
I do too.
You know, I expect the Republicans to say the things that they say
and do the things that they do.
This is what I always say about Jasmine Crocket.
Republicans talk about Jasmine Crocket.
publicly. Democrats talk about our privately.
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