The Glenn Beck Program - Justice Upside Down? | Guests: Arthur Herman & Mayor Don McLaughlin | 6/20/19

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

Hour 1 Chuck Todd gets brave. Rips AOC and Democrats like Nancy Pelosi who won't condemn ...CNN Don Lemon says Trump is Hitler. House Hearing explodes as Coleman Hughes trashes Reparations bill. Sins... of the past to cripple our future  Hour 2 History the way in should be taught with Historian Arthur Herman. Reparations and what they mean to history moving forward, beyond politics. Compromise is becoming a thing of the past Hour 3 What is really happening at the Texas/Mexico border. Mayor Don McLaughlin joins to tell us. Small border towns are strapped with the flood of illegals ...Chinkers needed, to build bacon and sausage log cabins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glembach program. So it's a feeding frenzy as the left just starts to eat each other. And I'd like to wallow in that for a minute. I would just like to marinate in that because there is a revolution happening in the Democratic Party. It's clear. Now, are the Democrats? going to wake up to it.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You know, I don't know if, I don't know if anybody else has a problem with reparations hearings, you know, on Capitol Hill. I mean, if I were prioritizing the things that would help America and fix America, reparations would not even be on the list. It would be lower than climate change. I understand. We begin there in one minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. All right. Welcome to the program.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 I mean, when somebody does something brave, no matter if you agree or disagree with him, you should come out and say, hey, Chuck Todd don't normally agree with you, but you're being brave, and that is good. Here's what Chuck Todd said about AOC calling these holding facilities concentration camps on our border. Listen. If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, fine. You'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps because they're not at all comparable in the slightest. But here's where it's upsetting as her comments.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks. They don't want to get criticized in Twitter. Fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response, one of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again. We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us. Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps. So why didn't he just say that? Why are we so sheepest calling out people we agree with politically these days?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Obviously, this isn't a Democratic Party thing. It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there. Are we really so insomperse? in our political bubbles, liberal versus conservative, that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore? Some things are bigger than partisanship, or at least they used to be. That is amazing to hear from him. Now, I disagree that the problem is even bigger. I mean, you have people now saying, I want to dismantle the free market system. you know, maybe you all agree on that.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Maybe that's what it is. But I would think that would be something that would be pretty big, you know. But maybe it's just me. But congratulations to Chuck Todd. Now, Nancy Pelosi, not so brave. Here's Nancy Pelosi. These members of Congress are, they come and represent their district and their point of view. And they take responsibility for the statements that they make.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I'm not up to date on her most recent one. I saw something in the news, but I, no, I haven't spoken to her about that. I do have some comments to make to my caucus writ large about the political nature of how politically charged the atmosphere is. So understand that while the Republicans have no interest in holding the president accountable for his words, they will misrepresent anything that you say just if you have one word in the sentence that they can accept. exploit. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh, okay. So let's let's let's just see. Let's just see. Let's go to Don
Starting point is 00:06:53 Lemon, the audio, Don Lemon on airing Trump speeches. Now let's just see. This is politically charged and we'll take everything out of context. So you got to calm down because you don't want things taken out of context. Go ahead. Think about the despicable people we've had in history. Okay. Now, I'm going to use an extreme example. Um, think about Hitler. Think about any of those people. Would you say that that person is allowed, let's put it this way. If you could look back in history, would you say, well, I'm so glad that that person was allowed a platform so that they could spread their hate and propaganda in lies? Or would you say it probably wasn't the right thing to do to spread that? Because you knew
Starting point is 00:07:35 in the moment that that was a bad person and they were doing bad things. Not only were they hurting people. They were killing people. And so I just think that... Well, I think that the example matters. And that's a very extreme example. A rhetoric that you don't like. Rhetoric and laws. Could it be a slippery slope towards violence? And policy are detrimental to people.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And it also... This is unbelievable. So now he's comparing Donald Trump to Hitler. Literally, Hitler, would we give Hitler a platform? Why are we giving this guy a platform? First of all, the German people were not all that sold that this was a bad. guy. Okay? And yes, I'm actually happy that the New York Times and Time Magazine and others gave him a platform so we knew his words. The problem I have was the journalist we sent over,
Starting point is 00:08:27 just like the journalist from the New York Times that was sent over to Stalin, said that he was a wonderful guy. So yeah, you probably shouldn't have given him the New York Times and Time magazine you know, saying how great he is. That's probably a bad mistake. But letting someone be heard, yeah, I think that's what our First Amendment is all about. And I think the only way we stop people like Hitler is by knowing what he's saying. If we wouldn't have read Mind Kompf, it would have been a little harder to spot him.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Oh, no, wait a minute, wait a minute. What is he saying again? Should we have published that book? Yes. I want to know what people are thinking. I want to know the other side. I want, it does no good burying our heads in the sand when it comes to evil. You need to know about it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So now he's called him, now he's called him a Hitler. Now he's called Trump Hitler. Okay, we got it. We are getting closer to the time. Remember I said, this is 15 years ago, we're a long way away from a civil war. You'll know when we're closer to a civil war when they just start beating each other in the Senate. Okay, that's what happened before the last civil war. They just started going after each other in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, we're starting to go there. I don't know if we have, do we have the audio from the view yesterday? from Megan McCain. Okay, play this. This is an argument between Joy Behar, Megan McCain, and Whoopi Goldberg. Listen to this. I'm trying to explain,
Starting point is 00:10:18 because one of my producers this morning was saying, why do people love him so much? And I was like, sometimes it's not just that they love Trump so much, it's that they hate the same things Trump hates. That's what's going on as well. Who do they mean?
Starting point is 00:10:29 No, I mean. Who do they hate? Who do they hate? You know what, Joy, I really, I'm here every day, open-minded. just trying to explain it. And it's not a fun job for me every day.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But who do they hate? I know you're angry. I get that you're angry that Trump's president, like a lot of people are. I'm angry about every single thing he's doing. Yelling at me is going to fix the problem. I just said that it was hard for me. I just said it was hard for me to watch Lindsay Graham,
Starting point is 00:10:56 who I considered an uncle for a long time. But then you're talking about the Trump's support. But I'm trying to say 2020 is not in the bad for you. It's not. Okay, guys, okay, okay, okay. It's a great discussion and we can go back to it. I just need everybody to take a beat. But being a sacrificial Republican every day, I'm just trying to. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Don't feel bad for me. I paid to do this, okay? Don't feel bad for me. Before he headed to Florida. Hold on. Stop, stop. You hear that? don't feel bad for me, bitch,
Starting point is 00:11:42 to Whoopi Goldberg trying to calm things down. And I completely side with Megan McCain. Megan McCain takes a beating every single day. You don't win in that position. You are the token conservative, and they beat you every single day. But when they can't hide it anymore, Now, this is also yesterday, can we play, did we get the audio by any chance yet of the subcommittee hearing on the Constitution and Civil Rights and Civil Liberties?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yesterday, they had HR 40 that they were debating, and it was the path to restorative justice, which is a reparations bill. Now, I can think of a lot of things that would be helpful to fix the country. reparations is not on the list. But I want to play some of the audio of what happened in this. The temperature is being turned up. And yeah, Chuck Todd is right. And yes, Nancy Pelosi is right. We should watch our words.
Starting point is 00:13:02 We should watch our words. We should watch what we're doing to stir things up. I'm giving you a warning here as a nation. Look how far we have advanced. These things would not have happened a year ago. They certainly wouldn't have happened four years ago. Look what's happening to us. Look where we are as a people.
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Starting point is 00:15:48 Come sailaway.com. We take 10 seconds to pause for station ID. I want to play just a little bit of this audio of somebody standing up who is testifying, who is a Democrat, who says reparations, this is crazy. What are we doing? Now listen to his case. this is Coleman Hughes. He is a writer for Quillette, which is
Starting point is 00:16:33 fantastic. He came out and said this. Listen. Nothing I'm about to say is meant to minimize the horror and brutality of slavery and Jim Crow. Racism is a bloody stain on this country's history. And I consider our failure to pay reparations
Starting point is 00:16:51 directly to freed slaves after the Civil War to be one of the greatest injustices ever perpetrated by the U.S. government. But I worry that our desire to fix the past compromises our ability to fix the present. Think about what we're doing today. We're spending our time debating a bill that mentions slavery 25 times, but incarceration only once, in an era with no black slaves, but nearly a million black prisoners. A bill that doesn't mention homicides.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Once at a time when the Center for Disease Control reports homicide as the number one cause of death for young black men. I'm not saying that acknowledging history doesn't matter. It does. I'm saying there's a difference between acknowledging history and allowing history to distract us from the problems we face today. In 2008, the House of Representatives formally apologized for slavery and Jim Crow. In 2009, the Senate did the same. Black people don't need another apology. We need safer neighborhoods and better schools. We need a less punitive criminal justice system. We need affordable health care.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And none of these things can be achieved through reparations for slavery. Nearly everyone close to me told me not to testify today. They told me that even though I've only ever voted for Democrats, I'd be perceived as a Republican, and therefore hated by half the country. Others told me that by distancing myself from Republicans, I would end up angering the other half of the country. And the sad truth is that they were both right. That's how suspicious we've become of one another.
Starting point is 00:18:42 That's how divided we are as a nation. If we were to pay reparations today, we would only divide the country further, making it harder to build the political coalitions required to solve the problems facing black people today. We would insult many black Americans by putting a price on the suffering of their ancestors. And we would turn the relationship between black Americans and white Americans from a coalition into a transaction, from a union between citizens,
Starting point is 00:19:14 into a lawsuit between plaintiffs and defendants. What we should do is pay reparations to black Americans who actually grew up under Jim Crow and were directly harmed by second-class citizenship, people like my grandparents. But paying reparations to all descendants of slaves is a mistake. Take me, for example. I was born three decades after the end of Jim Crow into a privileged household in the suburbs. I attend an Ivy League school, yet I'm also descended from slaves who worked on Thomas Jefferson's Monticello plantation. So reparations for slavery would allocate federal resources to me, but not to an American with the wrong ancestry, even if that person is living paycheck to paycheck and working multiple
Starting point is 00:20:04 jobs to support a family. You might call that justice. I call it justice for the dead at the price of justice for the living. I understand that reparations are about what people are owed, regardless of how well they're doing. I understand that. But the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here, and we're not entitled to collect on their debts. Reparations, by definition, are only given to victims. So the moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim without my consent. Not just that. You've made one third of black Americans who poll against reparations, into victims without their consent. And black Americans have bought too long.
Starting point is 00:20:53 This guy is so solid. Don't agree with him necessarily on everything he says, but so rock solid. So rock solid. Since when does the sin of the father get passed to the sin, to the son? It's immoral. It's wrong.
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Starting point is 00:23:54 This is just another reason why social justice warriors are so out of step with the way Americans think. They just don't think like what's in our DNA. What's in our DNA is not reparations. What's in our DNA is doing the right thing. But never, never do we pass the sins of the father onto the sun. If my father racks up debt, I don't have to pay for it. I didn't rack up that debt unless I signed, then it's passed on to me. But what my father did is what my father did.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And here is yet another example. Moms and dads, is this the kind of country you want your children to inherit? One to where you make a mistake and they have to pay for it? not me it's ridiculous I mean so I had nothing to do with it and I'm having an announcement I had nothing to do with slavery
Starting point is 00:24:59 zero percent I had nothing to do with I had nothing to do with with Jim Crow laws either no no it didn't have anything to do with it so I mean I I understand why if you are a descendant you could look back at your history and say that was a huge problem and we all obviously recognize
Starting point is 00:25:16 it was a terrible terrible thing as you'll be pointing out in the museum this in just a couple of weeks. But that does not mean that I get punished for it. I don't get punished for things that I didn't do. That's what America is built on that, right? You're supposed to be able to be responsible for your own actions, not actions for people that, by the way, not only was I not around for, but never, never met. We're long dead before I was even born.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And I didn't have any, like my descendants weren't slave owners. Like only what was it? About a third of Southerners, white Southerners were slave owners. I mean, you know, it was an expensive thing, I would imagine, and, you know, mainly relegated to those who were well off and also believed in slavery. But about a third. So you're talking about two thirds of white Southerners would be being, have their descendants taxed for something they didn't even do,
Starting point is 00:26:12 not to mention. And it was a divisive issue, right? There were a lot of people who were white and in the South who thought slavery was horrible. just like every issue today is divided. We had people who were the founders who fought against it. I mean, did the descendants of Benjamin Franklin, an abolitionist, do they pay reparations to someone who may or may not have been a descendant of slaves? There's no way to manage this system.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Let me ask you this. What would be the purpose? And they say it's justice, but it's not. No. Social justice is not justice. It doesn't exist. So they say this is social justice, but really, let's look at the motivation. Let's say, let's say right now we reversed Roe versus Wade.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And a hundred years from now, you would say, well, I want everybody to pay for reparations because my great-great-grandmother was advised by Planned Parenthood that she could get an abortion. and so I want you to pay for those reparations for all of those 50 or 60 million children that have been killed since Roe versus Wade. Now, what would be your intent there? Really? What would your intent be? I would imagine that if you were doing it closer to, you know, to the actual event,
Starting point is 00:27:41 that you could make the case, well, that was to financially cripple this organization to make sure that, they were put out of business. I contend that's the same idea here. It's to add to an already $22 trillion debt to do something that makes
Starting point is 00:28:01 absolutely no sense. There is no justice in this. And wait, we're going to what? We're going to pay money that we don't have. We will have to borrow it to do what? I contend this is to do
Starting point is 00:28:17 nothing other than to cripple our government to cripple the United States of America. And I think that's what this is about. And when you really look at how they would do it, there's no constitutional way to tax only white people. Like, I mean, and that's good. There shouldn't be a constitutional way to tax only one specific race. That's not, that's not something you can even do. It's like, it's this idea that, you know, of course, there's no way to actually correctly trace the lineage of every single person to make this right. So they won't, they'll broaden it. And what they want to do is say, okay, we're going to tax white people and give it to black people is where it kind of gets summarized to. But even that, that's blatantly unconstitutional, just like it would be unconstitutional to tax black people to give it to white people. Because you know what? There are plenty of times where people who were incredible racist would have argued that that was just. So go beyond that. How would this actually play out? Let's just put it in not in this idea of whether it's right or wrong. Put it in the idea of actually designing a policy. There's no constitutional way to do it the way it's being discussed.
Starting point is 00:29:21 What it would wind up being is an excuse to take money from people who were supposedly too rich and benefited too much off of this evil system and give it to people who are poor who have been hurt by this system. So what you'd wind up doing is having middle class and upper middle class black people playing higher taxes to give it to people who probably underprivileged, quote unquote, white people who wound up becoming the beneficiary. would wind up being just a generic argument to redistribute wealth all over again. And what a surprise is that one of these topics and one of these big pushes by the left
Starting point is 00:29:56 comes back to that fundamental principle once again. It's, uh, it's healthcare. Remember we said the reason why healthcare is being pushed is because it's just redistribution of wealth. That's all it is. It doesn't, it's not going to affect in a positive way. it's not going to affect your actual health care. In fact, it's going to make it worse, which it has.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It is only redistribution of wealth. And we didn't just make that up. If you remember, who was it from the Center for American Progress, I think, said that. You cannot have a health care program. I remember he was the head of Medicare or Medicaid, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. And he said, there is.
Starting point is 00:30:46 no health care unless it is involving redistribution of wealth. It must be redistributive. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. And here's the thing. This is, more importantly, this is why it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:31:03 For us as humans, beyond the Republic and everything else, for us as humans, we look at history and we say it's boring, it's old, it's powdered wigs. No, it's not. History is what you did or failed to do yesterday. That's history. Now, you can allow that history to affect the rest of your life. I'm an alcoholic. I'd get up every morning and I'd promise myself I wouldn't drink the day before, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:34 and I'd look and I'd go, I'd just promise this yesterday and I broke my own promise. I am drinking. Okay, today, today, I'm just not going to drink today. and I broke that promise to myself for five years, every single day. I let my history control me. Instead of forgetting what happened yesterday and saying that does not control me or chart my course, what it did was it told me every day you're a loser, you're pathetic, you can't do it. And I dwelled on that.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I just went over a cliff. And this is why when you hit rock bottom, sometimes it's suicide. Because you've convinced yourself you're worthless. You're not able to do it. That the whole world is against you, whatever it is. And you lose the idea that today is all that matters and I can change. The whole idea of a 12-step program is to change today. Just get through this first five minutes.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Don't worry about tomorrow or yesterday. Just get through these next five minutes. Just get through, you know, the next hour, then the next day. Don't think about the future. And what's happening to us, and this is the point of the museum that we're opening up next week, and it's going to be very controversial, especially in this atmosphere. But it shouldn't be. what we're doing is we're showing you the history of the slave trade not just America
Starting point is 00:33:18 we're showing you that 45% of all the slaves that were transported went to Brazil only 4% of those slaves came here we're showing you that yes Mexico stopped slavery before we did yeah but did they really because all they really did was say okay you can keep your slaves and you have to give them up in a hundred years And no slave trade. Well, we were the first to say no more slave trade. We were the first in the world to say no more slave trade. We just didn't free the slaves we had.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Well, Mexico didn't either. Mexico didn't do it for a hundred years. And I don't hear anybody complaining there. Why is it that they're coming after us? Now, we could dwell on that. But again, what does that do? That just beats us again over and over every single. day when instead perhaps we should look at today there is a report out today that china has imprisoned
Starting point is 00:34:23 in actual concentration camps three million people three million people are in these concentration camps and just to help a causio cortez out here's the difference between a detainment center and a concentration camp. In this case, you leave alive, you leave with your kidneys. There's a new study out, the China Tribunal, that has shown now that forced organ harvesting is being committed in China on a significant scale. There is no evidence that any of this has been dismantled. This has been going on for a while. And one of the reasons why they know it was going on was because, well, there's not a waiting list. Oh, you need a new kidney? Oh, yeah, we can get one. We got one. Wait, wait a minute. How come there's no waiting list in China for
Starting point is 00:35:19 organs? And what they're doing is they're taking these people in these concentration camps. They're giving them thorough inspections and medical testing. And then when somebody needs an organ, they're like, oh, we have this guy. He's this blood type. Good. Take him out of cell number 23 and rip his organs out. That's what's happening in China. now we can talk about we can talk about the concentration camp on our border and it will do nothing but tear us apart or we can look at this and say hey maybe we should look at China what can we do as people as a country what should we be focused on today because i want to really make this clear. History is not old dusty documents. You're making history right now. Future historians will judge all
Starting point is 00:36:20 of us. They will say, what did those people do then? We look at, why didn't the United States do anything about the concentration camps in Germany? How come the world didn't stand up? Well, what are we doing now? Three million people are in concentration camps in China alone. And we're talking about our border? That doesn't make sense. Unless, unless you are somebody that history will not judge well. And your concept of right and wrong and justice is upside down. So, Stu, I've got to talk about something It's not racist, but I know that's what racist say right before they say something racist, but this isn't racist. But I'm kind of caught in this conundrum, and it's a good thing I don't work for ESPN because I have to ask for the audience help on something. And it's very racist, except not at all.
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Starting point is 00:40:30 You're listening to Glenn Beck. You know, back in the 1850s, slavery was a big problem. But, No one in Congress actually wanted to do anything about it. And that's why Charles Sumner stood up and said, you know, the South is sleeping with the horror of slavery. This is why the Republican Party was born. Because there were Democrats and Republicans that both saw that this was a problem. And they wanted to solve it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Sorry, it wasn't Democrats in Republicans. It was Democrats in Whigs. and they realized that nobody is serious about solving this problem. And that's what led us into civil war. Well, don't we have that same problem right now? The border is on fire. We're going to get into that a little later on today with some amazing stats that you've never heard on how bad this is. Nobody's paying attention to it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Instead, Congress is talking about reparations. Historically, has this? Have we been this close to, is this normal? Or is this leading to some of the worst parts of our past? We're going to talk to one of my favorite historians in one minute. This is the Glenback program. Real estate agents, I trust.com is going to help you sell your house. We are so eager to introduce you to one of the best real estate agents in the country,
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Starting point is 00:43:33 all of his back catalog and it's just it's so fantastic he's such a good storyteller and teaches history in a way I think it needs to be taught. He is in my opinion, I don't know if anybody knows who Daniel Borsden is
Starting point is 00:43:49 but he was one of my favorite historians. He was the guy who was the head of the Library of Congress and I loved his discoverer series. And And Arthur is the same kind of guy with just a gift for bringing history to life. Welcome to the program, Arthur. How are you?
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm doing well. You know, I met Daniel Burston when I was a young scholar right after my first book, The Idea of Decline in Western History was published. He invited me to lunch at the Cosmos Club, as a matter of fact. And we met and talked about various kinds of matters, writing in history. In fact, the book, How the Scotts invented in the modern world,
Starting point is 00:44:33 was really kind of inspired by that conversation because we were talking about Adam Smith. He said, you should really do a book on Adam Smith. And it planted a seed which, you know, two years later, three years later,
Starting point is 00:44:44 really became the seeds of that too. Yeah, he was an amazing man. You know, it's funny, Arthur, that you would say that that was the book that was born out of inspiration because I felt this way about you
Starting point is 00:44:56 with Daniel Borson for a while. but I happen to be reading how the Scots change the world right now. I'm going through your library, you know, your back catalog, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. And it's very, in some ways, it's very Daniel Borsten. It is. And, you know, Borsten in that lunch, explain to me how he wrote those books.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Those books have, you know, the discoverers and the others in that series, really sprang from his reading of the philosopher Henri Bergson, the French intuitive philosopher. And those all come out of the way in which Berkson talks about how we experience the world through our senses, through our intuitions and through our connections with nature. So there's a, I don't have to go, I'm not going to walk your readers through the philosophy of my Berkson. You can read about that in Cave in Light. But there was, in other words, that wasn't just sort of book titles, like, what am I going to write about next? That's the kind of intellectual that Borsden was.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah, he was great. great. So I wanted to get you on. And I wanted to talk we're talking about reparations now in Congress, seriously having this debate. They were tearing each other apart yesterday. People were booing, you know, blacks who were testifying and saying, no, I think this is wrong. And I'm a Democrat. And they were being booed. I haven't seen this level of vitriol. And it gets worse every day. you know, last night we had somebody on CNN, a host, compare Donald Trump to Hitler. Why are we giving this man any platform? Now, this is not a guest.
Starting point is 00:46:36 This is a host. We wouldn't do that to Hitler. Why are we doing it to him? You have Akazio Cortez comparing what we have happening on our border to a Nazi concentration camp. And people like Chuck Todd are being hammered because he said, that's ridiculous. And have we, can you give me a framework of where you think we are in history? Have we been here before? Yeah, well, I think that, you know, this is a very strange kind of development that, you know, you and I have talked about kind of where the country is right now.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I think that it would be good to mention that about four years ago I wrote a piece that appeared on Fox opinion called America's Coming. Civil War. And it was about what I felt was, and I'm going to use a term that you'll recognize, Glenn, because it comes out of that period just before 1860, that there was an irrepressible conflict that was coming between those for whom the growth of government and of government control versus those for whom government control required extracting resources, including money, but also, but also our own cultural identities as a conflict that could be as serious as the one that broke out over slavery. And you were just talking very correctly about how what we saw there was that the impossibility
Starting point is 00:48:12 of finding any kind of clear middle ground between those two sides. That piece went viral. There was a lot of criticism of a lot of you talking about American, you know, American Civil War. I wrote a follow-up piece after Barack Obama's inauguration, because I sense that the Obama administration and his re-election in 2012 was really a turning point in this discussion and what was going to take place here. So with all of this, now everybody's talking about America's coming civil war. Everybody is debating these kinds of questions about are we really reaching an existential moment in terms of American identity. and I think what you see on the media and particularly on the social media suggests that I was right
Starting point is 00:48:59 that the civil war may not come in terms of actual violence. You know, we're not going to be refighting the Battle of Gettysburg. But I think we're moving very quickly into a space where it's going to be harder and harder to find sensible compromise, even on fundamental kinds of issues, which in the past would have been kind of. considered, you know, beyond politics. Well, because we're not talking about, but we're not really talking about those issues. We're talking about reparations. How does reparations, in all of the problems that we face, the politicians always pick the ones
Starting point is 00:49:40 that are absolutely the most divisive and with an exception of, I think, of abortion, the least consequential at this point. No, exactly. and reparations is a classic example, because you know it's never going to become reality. You know that this is simply done by the Democrats as a way to try and increase the African-American vote, which they sense disaster looming ahead in the 2020 election. And so the scramble is on. You really believe that?
Starting point is 00:50:13 You actually really believe that, that they're headed for a disaster? I do, yeah, yeah, I do. And I think that the disaster is reflected both in the pathetic field of candidates that have come forward here, but also the kinds of issues that they're reduced to addressing and putting out there in the hopes that they'll be able to collect votes. You know, of course, what will happen is when Trump is reelected, there'll be all kinds of claims that the election was stolen yet again. This is also part of the Democrat playing book.
Starting point is 00:50:49 now is that any election that doesn't return a Democrat, and particularly a liberal Democrat, is illegitimate, has been manipulated either by voter suppression or by collusion with foreign governments or some other kind of underhanded means. This, too, works to undermine people's confidence in our institutions. On both sides of the aisle, Glenn, I mean, this is the other point, too, is that the increase, the hyper exaggerated rhetoric that we're getting out of the left also convinces those on the right that there is no grounds for compromise. People are out of control, and that if they were somehow to gain power,
Starting point is 00:51:33 that we would be staring a proto-tetalitarian state in the face. The equivalent of Mao's culture revolution is on the way. And whether that's true or not, the degree to which the excessive rhetoric on the part of the left requires a equally exaggerated response from many of the voices on the right is all pointing us towards the idea that we're in dangerous, dangerous territory. Arthur, I want to ask you a couple more questions as a historian to be able to, and I know this is almost impossible, to take yourself out of today. and try to put yourself in the future and look at what's what's happening to us right now. And what the, what the, you know, there's always these, these turning points. There's always these road marks where, you know, it's the easiest place to find is in the Bible,
Starting point is 00:52:37 because they've summarized civilizations into, you know, a chapter. And so you'll see this, this rise and fall of a civilization. and then the next rise and you're like, okay, well, they're going to get it right this time. And then they, you know, they fall again. And you're like, didn't you? All you had to do is read the last chapter. And I want to talk to you a little bit about some of the things that you see that are road markers, if you do. And I also want to talk to you a little bit about socialism and this growing state of technology and the silencing of voices.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Have we been here before? And what does it mean? And what should we preserve? Back in a second with Arthur Herman, he is a tremendous, tremendous author. And I think he's my favorite historian. And I can't believe he listens to this show because I'm a little embarrassed, you know, to have somebody as good as history at history as he is listening to me, blab on about it. But it will be back in just a second.
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Starting point is 00:55:04 It's ReliefFactor.com. 10 seconds, Station ID. So we're with Arthur Herman, and I just read a new study, and I'm going to go through this hopefully today. the overwhelming ratio of adults, 12 to 1, say they prefer a nation with individual ownership of private property and where all the property is owned and where none of the property is owned by the government. That is 82 to 7. 6 to 1 ratio, Americans want a government that takes its direction from the people rather than live in a nation where the population takes its direction from the government.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's a margin of 76 to 12. Economically, six Americans who want a country featuring the prices of goods based on the free market for every one who prefers the price of goods determined by the government. That's 75 to 12. And yet overwhelmingly, people say they support socialism. This is a problem with history. Nobody is educated. Nobody really understands history. Nobody even knows what socialism is or capitalism.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The study found out that most people don't even know what capitalism is. So, Arthur, have we been this close to this, where people are coming out and saying who are in power? I want to destroy the free market system. And if they win, I think they will. Have we been here before? Well, I don't know if you've been in this country. here before. But if you look at the experience in Europe between the world wars, and I'm not really so much thinking about Nazi Germany because that's such a cliche,
Starting point is 00:57:04 and the differences are really profound. I think a better model for thinking about where we are and where we could go if we're not really careful and begin to take some serious steps backwards to rethink the way in which political debates have shaped up is France. You know, France, like the United States, you know, emerged from World War I as a victorious power. It seemed that to the rest of the world that it was Europe's, you know, superpower on the continent of Europe, just as Britain was still a major superpower in a global sense. And yet, with the 1920s and 1930s, the French squandered everything that they had achieved. in fighting that war, and they became so politically divided between Marxism and the extreme right
Starting point is 00:58:02 and a political establishment, which was too unable to address the most significant issues confronting France and Europe during those years, that when in 1940 the German invasion came, both the left and the right were so determined to see the other side lose, so they could say, I told you so, I said that you guys were leading us to a disaster, that they refused to unite. And so France collapsed and their entire system of government. Does this sound familiar at all, Glenn?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Am I talking about a situation which bears amazing resemblance to where we are today in many respects? You could see that happening with China. You could see that really happening with Russia. I mean, you know, we could have the, just the border. You could lose the country, and there would be a lot of people that would want to be right so bad that it would allow it to happen. Sure. And, you know, and in the French Chamber of Deputies at a time in which the Nazi war machine is gearing up when the Spanish Civil War is threatening to embroil the world in an ideological conflict, the big debate in the chamber of deputies was how many days of vacation should French workers get.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, talk about the irrelevancy of an issue like reparations. And fortunately, you know, there was a man. His name is Charles de Gaulle. And he was able to be the man of the hour who, alone, with everybody else in France, had basically given up with the armistice, basically handing France's fortunes over to Hitler, he was the one and said, no, France is going to continue to fight. Even if I have to do it entirely alone, I will do so. And what he managed to do was to save what was left to France's honor in World War II and to really take upon himself the
Starting point is 01:00:10 mission of saving his country from the disgrace and the humiliation and the collapse that had gone through in the last two decades. And we always talk about Winston Churchill. You know, I've written about Churchill. I've a great admirer of his. De Gaulle, I think, is a figure who we might want to think about looking at more closely. I wrote my first college paper of him in 1971, and I've always been fascinated by De Gaul.
Starting point is 01:00:36 He got a bad press because, you know, he pulled France out of NATO and chased out American bases in France during the 1960s during the Cold War. but he was a man who looked at his country, saw the state of intellectual and moral rot that had set in, and said, you know what, there's more to France than this, and there's more to my country, and I have a patriotism to which I will sacrifice my career, to which I will sacrifice all of my resources, even if I have to do it alone. And it became a symbol of strength that really made him a revered figure, a savior, and really pulled France out of the abyss that it was in thanks to the Vichy episode. Arthur, I know I've only asked you for an half hour of your time this morning.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Would you be willing to give me another 15 minutes because I still have more things I want to talk to you about? Can you hold over? Glenn, I'm here. Glenn, I'm here. Delighted. Okay, great. Great. More with Arthur Herman, one of my favorite historians.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And we'll get into reparations and a little bit more of socialism when we come back. Let me tell you a little bit about X-Chair. X-Chair is a fantastic chair. I'm going to be back in the studios next week, and I cannot wait for my ex-chair. I am, you know, there's something to say for a good office chair. Whether you're at home or whether you're at work, a great office chair is really, really money well spent.
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Starting point is 01:03:31 the country survive. There's a lot of choices. There's a lot of choices. But two of the easiest really is the border and the debt. Now, we've got a lot of other problems. Abortion is actually number one on my list. But I mean, if we're going to be serious about saving our nation, we have to get the debt under control. We have to get borders under control. Nobody is talking about that. In fact, yesterday they had a hearing that went pretty awry in the house on reparations. Now, we're a society that doesn't believe in the sins of the father being paid for by the son. But that's not even this. This is the sins of the possible great, great, great grandfather being paid for by the great, great grandson whose great, great grandfather may not have even been
Starting point is 01:04:30 here at the time. Is there any example in history of this being done before? We welcome back to the program, Arthur Herman, one of my favorite authors and the author of Freedom's Forge, which is a must read, must read for everybody. Arthur, I think one of the biggest mistakes we made as a country was not doing the 40 acres in a mule. You know, we had the land back then. We had the land back then. we could have done it. We still have the land. But we could have done it. It probably was the right thing to do, perhaps. And, you know, we just broke so many promises.
Starting point is 01:05:10 However, that was 150 years ago. 170 years ago now. This idea of reparations and the great-great-grandson paying for the crimes of a possible great-great-grandfather, has that ever been done before? Well, yeah, it has. It's how the Marxist mind, and I might also add the National Socialist mind works, and that is that the world in which you live is based upon an injustice, and foisted upon you by great impersonal historical forces, which require the overthrow of the entire system, whether you're talking about. about the overthrow of capitalism, or in the case of the Nazis, the overthrow of the world Jewish conspiracy. So that's the kind of mindset that we're fighting against Glenn is one that sees human beings, not as free individuals, not as beings gifted with a soul, with an independent will to make our future
Starting point is 01:06:26 and make our density as we see fit or as we desire, but instead as pawns of these vast historical forces, white supremacy, patriarchy, homophobia, Islamophobia, you name it. And that in those circumstances, it becomes then irrelevant, whether, in fact, for example, African Americans living in this country have a longer lifespan and Africans who are living in their own continent, that the stories of people like Oprah Winfrey, stories of people like Clarence Thomas,
Starting point is 01:07:06 are meaningless because things are posed in terms of these huge, ultimately meaningless abstractions. You know, the issue you just put your finger on, reparations, and the issue you just mentioned, immigration, are in fact intimately connected because they are both based upon an historical lie, which is that America is ultimately an evil place, built by white supremacists, built by Christian fundamentalists, believers in the enslavement of the rest of the world, patriarchalists, all those kinds of cliches. And therefore, why would you defend a country, right?
Starting point is 01:07:51 Why would you want to protect the borders of the country which was born in sin? Why would you want to not repay those that have suffered as a result of that of that original sin in the sense of those who may or may not be descendants of slaves? And by the way, that is going to be a really hard issue to sort out. You understand that, right? That's going to be an insuperable question. And then, you know, I look at my own experience, right? You mentioned great-great-grandfathers.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Well, my great-great-grandfather fought in the Union Army. He was wounded at the Battle of Stones River, fighting against slavery, fighting against the Confederacy. So where do I fit in terms of who's going to be responsible for reparations and who ultimately needs to be called into account for what happened and what was part of an indissoluble part of the 13 colonies that be. became an independent nation. And that was an issue that every great statesman up until 1860 wrestled with and tried to find a solution to and that haunted American politics for all those years since, and that ultimately required the shedding of blood of more than 600,000 Americans before it was finally sorted out. Look, you and I know, we bungled the reconstruction period immediately after the Civil War.
Starting point is 01:09:25 There were, the answers were there, and you just mentioned one of them, the 40 acres in the meal. The ways in which to go forward, those options were there. If we really were an irredeemably evil society, those options we wouldn't have chosen, you know, that we did. It would have been inevitable. It would have been locked in, but we didn't. Mistakes were made in those two decades that followed the Civil War, but the reasons why those mistakes were made, and there's no way you can look at the historical record since
Starting point is 01:10:03 and not see the history of the United States as one that has promoted all of the most important human values and the most important foundations of human freedom, any society, any society in the world. And that includes the civil rights movement, which as you know, goes back much further than Martin Luther King, that King was the culmination of work, of
Starting point is 01:10:32 a title move in consciousness in this country that had been set in motion before he arrived on the scene and that he was able to, that he was able to bring to fruition. The story of America, of race in America is one that could be written in a very different way from the way in which the organizers of this reparations campaign have written it, and it would be much truer to the historical reality than their distortions and caricatures. All right, Arthur, I've only got a couple more minutes with you, and I've got to ask you this. I'm concerned, very concerned, and so is everyone in my industry about the silencing of voices and how fast we can be de-platformed and entirely erased.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And that leads me to look at things, you know, like Huckleberry Finn and Mark Twain being removed from shelves of libraries and not taught anymore. if we would enter this dystopian world that China is already in, or if we were hit by an EMP, God forbid, we had some sort of war with Russia and we're trying to knock each other out electronically, all this knowledge could be lost. what if you had to save things and beyond the Bible and the founding documents, what books would you say every library should have, every person should read, every school kid should read, we got to have these books if we're going to tell the true story of America and if we would ever want to reset it and put it right. Wow, that is a really great question. And we're going to have to have another hour, Glenn, in order to start through all of us. You know that. You know that. But I'll tell you what, I was thinking about this, and it's an exercise that I've conducted myself several times.
Starting point is 01:12:36 But since we only have a few minutes here, what if we just limited ourselves to basically five books written by American presidents as a way in which to do this, which I think many ways encapsulate so much of the American experience that they really ought to be part of, and understanding where we are and how we've gotten to where we are, that I think that everybody should really read and should be in every library. The first one, the first one that came to my mind was the speeches and addresses of Abraham Lincoln. You know, enough said, right? You and I share admiration and fascination for those, but for more than just the ones associated with Civil War,
Starting point is 01:13:16 for men who had a really deep understanding of American history, a deep understanding of Western history, including our Judeo-Christian roots. It's an amazing, amazing piece of work. Then the other one that I would do is, and this is going to shock you, and this is going to surprise you, Glenn, is the speeches of Franklin Roosevelt. You know, everybody discovered with astonishment, right, his prayer before D-Day, just this last anniversary. But in fact, all of his speeches, whatever you say, about, you know, Franklin Roosevelt, he made some huge mistakes and in policy during the
Starting point is 01:13:56 new deal. He certainly had some false assumptions about how the world work and his ability to create a post-war world in conjunction to the Soviet Union. But you know what? As American presidents go, his speeches reflect an understanding of who we are of what our aspirations need to be in ways that made them household, you know, everybody understood them, everybody grasped them much. So I would definitely put that on the list. I would also read then Dwight Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe, which is really understanding how that man was able to put together and hold together a multinational effort to free Nazi Germany and why we did it. It's an amazing book. I would also include Ronald Reagan's Diaries, because those,
Starting point is 01:14:47 show a mind at work in the White House, understanding how it is that we are going to be able to deal with, and ultimately emerged victorious against Soviet communism, which everybody else assumed we would have to be lucky if we could find a way to engage in peaceful coexistence. It exposes a side of Ronald Reagan that not only enhances our understanding of his importance as an American president, but also we see the way in which America, in the, in the Cold War era, this mind coming to grasp with what's taking place and understanding where it fits in terms of where America needs to be. Then the last one I'll recommend, Glenn, John F. Kennedy's profiles and courage. I think it's a wonderful book. And you know, there's a lot of scandal about who
Starting point is 01:15:35 really wrote that book and so on about his father's lobbying so would get the Pulitzer Prize. But the biographies, first of all, the biographies of the men, in the U.S. Senate, who grappled with the issue of slavery. It's very well laid out in that book. He has a wonderful chapter on Robert Taft, the Republican Center from Ohio that we've talked about before, which is considering it as written for, you know, person from the opposite political party is amazing. He has a discussion there about George Norris, who took a strong stand against the Wilsonian kind of view of the world, of America's involvement in World War I.
Starting point is 01:16:19 It's a very readable. I read it first as a school kid, but it's one which I think its value grows as the decades past as a way to understand who we are and all of the really amazing things that we have accomplished as a society, as a nation, and of the people who have made it possible for us to be that beacon in the world
Starting point is 01:16:46 that we still are, Glenn. It's still there. However much people try to extinguish the flame. Arthur, I love talking to you. I mean, you should just come in and we should just do a whole show together because I still have about two hours left of stuff I want to ask you. Thank you so much for your time and we'll have you back again. Arthur Herman.
Starting point is 01:17:07 You can follow him on Twitter at Arthur L. Herman. his book that is a great entry for him is Freedom's Forge, which talks about how we won World War II. It is an amazing story. And you'll all the way through it think, gosh, I wonder if corporations would do that now. I wonder if we are those same people now. Arthur Herman is his name.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Any of his books, any of them are tremendous. You can also find him at Hudson.org. All right. I'm going to take a quick break after I tell you about Simply Safe. Simply Safe. You know, they did a survey recently, and they didn't do it, but there was a survey conducted of people who had just broken into homes. And they were under arrest. And they said, why did you do it?
Starting point is 01:18:03 Why did you do it? And they said, well, because we have a right to stuff in people's houses. Now, that's crazy enough. but what they said was if if we went to a house that was protected, we didn't go there. We'd go to the next house. But if it wasn't protected, if they didn't have the, you know, alarm system or didn't have it on, we figured it was our right to go in and take it because they didn't care so much. That's how crazy things are.
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Starting point is 01:18:55 It's simplysafebeck.com. Simplysafebeck.com. Hey, by the way, we have been banned from posting some of my art on eBay and selling it. and they've given us every kind of reason for it. Now, it is a picture of Hitler. It's a painting of Hitler, but it's a distorted painting of Hitler. It is based on anti-Hitler propaganda from the 1930s, and he's reading a report that 50 million have been killed through abortion,
Starting point is 01:19:27 and it says next time, I guess I'd just call it Planned Parenthood. I think it's up to about $4,500 in the studio have the address where you can bid on it. or you can just go to glenbeck.com and we'll lead you to that but every single penny goes to pro-life organizations every penny let's stick together and if you can i don't know where you're going to hang it but they want it now you're listening to glen the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment guy up in new jersey uh it has just been charged with and murder of a New Jersey jogger. There's a little more to this story. He has already been deported twice. Twice he was deported, and yet he was back here to commit more crime.
Starting point is 01:20:31 When you actually see what is going on in our country, you'll be mad at both sides. Both the Democrats and the Republicans can fix this in Congress right now. neither side has a desire apparently to fix it. So where are our local officials? We are going to talk to a mayor in Texas who his story of what's happening to his town is air-raising. And we go there in one minute. The Glenback program. So a little history lesson back in 1985, a group of progressives in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:21:10 They created a phone company with a goal of donating a portion of their profits to promote left. wing causes. Well, that company has grown and evolved into a big cell phone company now called Credo Mobile, and they are affecting elections in this country. In 2014, they created a super pack that tried to flip five Republican held seats. In 2015, Planned Parenthood's largest corporate donor. Today, $80 million for progressive causes have come from this idea that started in 1985. So in 2013, a bunch of vets and retired vets and business people got together and said, why aren't we doing this for our side?
Starting point is 01:21:54 Why aren't we giving a better service, a better phone company that doesn't give to Planned Parenthood? Because if you're on Sprint or AT&T, any of these, they are giving to causes that you do not support. I guarantee it. can we come up with a sell company that is as good of service if it's not better cheaper so people save money is easy to switch to and will further the goals that they have as individuals are you kidding me i can save money get the same service and help the causes i care in why are we not
Starting point is 01:22:32 all on patriot mobile dot com i'll tell you the reason why because you think it's a hassle it's not going to be a hassle they're making it hassle free right now in a free month of service at patriot mobile.com. You can save a butload of money and you're doing something that you believe in, helping those causes that you believe in. Use the promo code back right now. Go to patriotmobile.com. That's patriot mobile.com. Let me give you some, let me give you some, uh, illegal immigration stats. Okay. Now, these are just between 2011 and 2016. Between 2011 and 2016, there have been more than 500,000 criminal offenses, 996 homicides done by illegals, 996 homicides, 59,200 assaults, 14,000 burglaries, 58,000 drug charges,
Starting point is 01:23:53 605 kidnappings, 36,000 thefts, 39,000 obstructing police, 3,000 robberies, 5,000 rapes, 7,000 weapons charges. That's just between the years 2011 and 2016 in Texas alone. What are we doing? The flood of illegals into Texas is going to kill Texas. It's going to. It is strangling these small cities, especially these little teeny cities on the border. They're not getting any help from the federal government, and people are coming hundreds a day.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And what are they supposed to do about it? Don McLaughlin, I've been trying to talk to him for about a week. He's been up in Washington testifying. He's really a little outspoken on this. And when you hear his story of his town, what's happening in his town, you'll see why he's outspoken. Welcome to the program, Mayor McLaughlin. How are you? He dropped?
Starting point is 01:25:05 Are we going to get him back on? I heard him speak in front of Congress. And when you hear somebody who is actually living this and you hear him talk about, I mean, a lot of the people in his town are Hispanic. And they don't want this either. You know, this is not a race thing. This isn't a phobia. This is a real problem. Mayor, welcome to the program.
Starting point is 01:25:35 How are you, sir? Good, thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. How are you today? Very good. I heard you speak. I think it was to Horowitz on the Blaze, and your story is amazing. Can you tell me what's happening in your town? Sure. What, as we've been saying, the Border Patrol is just unindated with these family units that are crossing the border. and the misconception that that is out there is that everybody thinks this is strictly just South Americans that are from Mexico and Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador. Well, it's 29 different countries across the southern border, not just from there. And they're coming from all over, and it's just, they're coming in family units,
Starting point is 01:26:27 and the border patrol just lands these family units. So as they're getting slammed, they're having to come out and start releasing these family units because they have no place to put them. They're at capacity at all their hold of facilities. And so they came to us in May and told us, oh, we're going to start releasing immigrant families in your community. We're going to release them up here at the Stripes Convenient Store or at your H.E.B. or your Walmart. And we said, whoa, whoa, whoa. we, you know, no, we're not, we're not set up to, to handle that, you know. It's not that we don't want to help them. We're just, you know, we're a town of 17,000 people. We're just not, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:10 we're just not set up to handle that. And so how many a day, how many a day were they talking and how many a day are actually coming? Well, when they first started, we were talking about getting 10 to 20. Then it went to 20 to 40. Up to date, we've got 100 and 122. We haven't got in the last week because the facility that we have here in Evaldi are unaccompanied minors, and right now they are at capacity. So many unaccompanied miners have come in the last, they are full. They cannot process any family units here in Evaldi now because so many unaccompanied miners have come across in the last week. Now, I've heard you talk about how there's one family who won't, the kids won't go swimming
Starting point is 01:28:04 unless dad is in the back by the pool with the shotgun, because things are so crazy. Well, what's happening? What's happening in the Border Patrol that usually is watching for the, you know, whether the coyotes that are bringing the immigrants through or where this particular landowner is out by the train, by the train tracks, his property is. And these immigrants get on these trains coming out of Alas or even Lareda,
Starting point is 01:28:35 It's a main east and west railroad that comes through here, and so they get on this train. And so the Border Patrol has a facility here where they stop the train and check it for immigrants. Well, usually they have a pretty large contingency of Border Patrol when they stop that train and check it. Well, they're so spread out and spread so thin now with these family units that they're all doing that, that when they stop it, There may be anywhere from 30 to 40 people on that train, and you've got three Border Patrol agents trying to capture all these immigrants, and they don't have the manpower. Since then, since this last incident, we're trying to fill in with our police department and the Sheriff's Department. But what's happening, they're jumping off this train and running is starting to, it's been going on at his property, he said, for the last 60 days, but it just keeps getting worse and worse. and about a week ago he had one that jumped off or a group that jumped off and came
Starting point is 01:29:38 through his property and one particular individual got real aggressive, threatening and real aggressive. He did everything he could to try to catch him and get him. They had to find him and didn't find him. But the man threatened him and told him he was going to come back and get him in different things. And he said he and his wife didn't sleep a wink that night because the guy told him he was coming back that night to get him. And we didn't catch him in town either. I was talking to him. He said, you know, it's gotten so bad that my grandkids won't even come out to the house and go swimming unless I sit out in the backyard with a shotgun because we never know when they're going to show up. That's crazy. It is. And you're a town of, you're a town of 17,000. So you're not a town that, you know, has Starsky and Hutch kind of car chases ever, right? No, we, it's 25 years. We've had maybe two car chases. In the last two weeks, we've had five.
Starting point is 01:30:39 two of them have bailed out in town where we've had to put our schools on lockdown. The first one, there were eight individuals. So they jumped out in the middle of town right by our schools. So we had to lock all our schools down. We spent most of the day. We caught those eight individuals. The other day, we had four that jumped out of a car. The lady that was transported them claimed that one of them had a gun.
Starting point is 01:31:06 That's why she was transporting them. The Border Patrol says they don't think that was. probably true, but we didn't know, but we didn't catch those four. But again, we had to put another school on lockdown because it was in close proximity to where they jumped out. And we're seeing this more and more. So we're talking to Mayor Don McLaughlin, border town here in Texas, and this story is not unique. It's happening where the people of the town are paying a price.
Starting point is 01:31:39 And Don, I've talked about the Bubba effect for a very long time that the government just stops doing what it's supposed to do. And the people of the town, you know, become really angry and start to take things in their own hand because the government is not doing it. And I'm not saying that you're there or anything else and God forbid we ever get there. But what is the attitude towards the federal government from your citizens? both Republican and Democrat. Well, they're fed up with both sides because like I said, like I said before, this isn't a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It's an American problem.
Starting point is 01:32:19 It's an American people problem. I mean, it's both sides, and both sides are, and people in my community are fed up. They're frustrated with us as local government because we're having to use city funds and county funds when they drop these immigrant families off here in Evaldi. we're having to take them, and we're having to pay for a bus to take them to San Antonio, because we don't have the facilities to do it. So we're spending... And San Antonio...
Starting point is 01:32:46 Right, and San Antonio doesn't have the funding either. And San Antonio's dealing now, as you said, these people are not coming from Guatemala. They're dealing with people coming from the Congo, which is the Ebola hotspot and a place where ISIS has been recruiting lately. I mean, we don't know who's coming in and bringing. what into our communities and they're being dumped? Well, I asked our federal, I sent all our elected officials. In Del Rio, Texas, the first wave, 115 immigrants from the Congo showed up in Del Rio, Texas.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I mean, if you look on the map and see where the Congo is, and then you look on the map and see where Del Rio, Texas is, how did 115 Congolese, get to Del Rio, Texas. Then two days later, they got another 350 from Congolese. Right. And they also don't speak a word of English or Spanish. How did they get here? How did they get here? And nobody can tell us that answer. And we, like I said, up until the last day or so, we have seen nothing from the federal government as far as any answers, any help. We've asked for help to get reimbursed. We've asked what we're going to do. And until yesterday, it's the first time that we've seen anything that there's been a bill to reimburse communities for the expenses they're out.
Starting point is 01:34:20 I mean, Del Rio, Texas, which is 60 miles from us, they're getting unindated. I mean, they're getting 140 to 160 people released in their community every day. And before they got a coalition going, they were just taking them. And it's not the Border Patrol's fault because they're, being told by their by their by by Washington this is what you're going to do I mean our local border patrol in this area they work with our communities
Starting point is 01:34:48 I mean they're they're good people and they work hard I mean but they're just so they're strapped I've only got about a minute left is is the governor's office is Texas doing anything are they doing enough
Starting point is 01:35:04 where are where's where's our leadership from Texas starting to hear rumblins that they haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen anything to that effect. I was told that last night. I haven't seen anything in writing of that, but, you know, it's like it's falling on deaf ears.
Starting point is 01:35:39 That's amazing to me. Don, thank you so much, and my best to your community, and please stay in touch with us. If there's any way we can help, or if you need to bring shine a light onto something, please let us know. I will be there for you. I do appreciate the opportunity.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Thank you. You bet. Thank you. John McLaughlin from Evaldi, Texas. I want to give you some other stats here to show you, if we lose Texas politically, it's over. Okay. It's over. Since 2000, and this is only up to 2011, okay?
Starting point is 01:36:16 So we're not counting any of the Obama surge or this surge. Since the year 2000, the immigrant population has grown by 4,000. 43% that's legal and illegal in Texas. The national immigration population has grown by 28% during the same time frame. The immigrant population stood at 4.1 million, an increase of 1.5 million in a decade. 28% live in poverty, 41% lack health insurance, 45% use at least one welfare program, primarily food assistance in Medicaid, and 46% of these immigrants never completed high school. That was the previous decade, not the one we're in.
Starting point is 01:37:05 We're losing everything if we don't grab a hold of our borders and do it now. Boy, I would like to wake those in Washington. Research suggests that most businesses take up to 197 days to notice a breach of their servers and of their data. This is a, the, the average finance firm is a little better. It's only just over three months before they notice it. So all of your information can be out there for a minimum of three months, sometimes almost, you know, three quarters of a year. And nobody's doing anything about it.
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Starting point is 01:38:35 We pause for 10 seconds, station ID. You know what's amazing to me is you look at Texas and then you look at California. California, Los Angeles, their homeless problem, and they have no idea what's causing it. Their homeless problem in Los Angeles is now entering third world status. Third world. Now, why is that? California. why is this happening to you?
Starting point is 01:39:21 And it has nothing to do with Hispanics. It has everything to do with your policies. If you look, you compare the state of New York and the state of Texas. I don't know of race problems in Texas. I mean, there's always racists, you know, everywhere, blah, blah, blah. But we don't, we're not having race riots or anything else like that. I don't hear any Texans complaining about Hispanic. I don't hear it. Now, I'm sure there are, but I don't hear it.
Starting point is 01:39:52 You look at our immigration, our immigrant population, mainly Hispanic, grew 43% in the last decade. I know it's higher than that now. It has to be. Let's compare this with the state of New York. Immigrant population only increased in New York, 11% compared to Texas at 43%. But we don't have a problem with it. 22% live in poverty. 22% live in poverty in New York. 22% lack health care. 41% are on major welfare programs.
Starting point is 01:40:32 And only 20% completed high school. 46% in Texas didn't complete high school. Now, why is this? Why can Texas handle this and not become New York, or not become California? because some of the policies that we have actually work. We have a ban against sanctuary cities. But then again, our federal government is dumping illegals into our cities.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Isn't that a violation of our sanctuary cities? I think so. Where is Ted Cruz? Where is Cornyn? and my favorite governor I've ever had in a state, Greg Abbott, where are you? You're listening to Glenn. All right. CarShield is the greatest, the greatest.
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Starting point is 01:42:51 So, Stu, I think I have a billion dollar ID. But you are the food, you're the food guy. So just hear me out. So earlier today, I talked to you about, and I know this,
Starting point is 01:43:03 this sounds racist, but it's not racist, but that's what a racist says before they say something racist. So I'm in this, I'm in this feedback loop I can't get out of. I am having a hard time finding somebody to chink this old log
Starting point is 01:43:16 cabin. We have an old log cabin. We have an old log cabin from 1880 and nothing's ever been done to it. And so we're redoing it. And I can't do any more until it's rechinked, which is the white stuff in between the logs. And so if you happen to be a chinker in, you know, somebody that does this, boy, could I use your help right now? You can just call me. Call me.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Anyway. So when you say the white. stuff like, uh, think of a log cabin. Yeah. And you know the logs and then the space between the logs. The stuff that fills in that space. Right. That's chinking. Okay. And you can't just do it. I mean, it's a real art to do it. And when you do a log cabin and you do it right and the chinking is right, it is, it holds the heat. It holds the cold. Uh, I mean, it's, it's really an amazing thing. But it's a, It's, you know, a lost art. And apparently, uh, there's like two people in my area that do it.
Starting point is 01:44:24 And they're like, yeah, we're six months out, which you can't do it in six months because you can't do it in the cold. Uh, and so it's just a, so I'm like a year away from being able to do something if I can't get somebody to rechink it. So I, I don't, I don't know how you find people that do chinking that are good. I have no idea. But I had another idea. And here's the food.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Here's the food thing, okay? What would you say to a log cabin made entirely out of bacon or sausage? And it's held together with maple syrup. So you're... Now, I could live in this. I could live in this until I ate one of the walls. Right. So half an hour, you could live in it.
Starting point is 01:45:12 And then... Right. Yes. And then it would be kind of... I may not ever finish it. Right. If I had to build it, I would never finish it. It would always, it'd be like one of those cathedrals that are like, you know, they've been building it for 400 years.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Except mine would be only about, you know, 600 square feet. It feels like when you were describing this process, what immediately came to mind was once a year, I'm sitting around trying to build a gingerbread house and you're putting icing in between the wall. That's exactly what it is. Right. You're trying to get to all stick together. So I took all the chinking out on the inside. And once I got it all the way out on four walls, you know, I should have read.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I should have studied up on this. The entire cabin started to move. And so we can't take the chinking out on the outside because there's nothing really holding this thing together. And, you know, I was just trying to help out, you know? I was just like, hey, I'll do that because it's why waste somebody else's time? I'll do all. I'll get rid of it. So we got rid of it and we did a really good job.
Starting point is 01:46:17 I didn't think it through. That's what's holding this whole thing up. Yeah, that seemingly would be obvious, I think, to most people. But apparently... Well, you could make a case. You could make a case that that's just for the weather, keeping the elements out, you know, keeping it so it's not, the wind's not blowing through those holds.
Starting point is 01:46:44 You could make that case. Right, right. This is like when you want something goes wrong in our studios and you just come into the room and no one's around so you just start pressing buttons, which that always helps a lot. I mean, it's because there's a good chance you're going to press all the right buttons in the right order. Right. Right. It doesn't happen, but one day it will. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:06 I mean, they won't say that if you put a chimpanzee in front of a typewriter, eventually a novel comes out, just a matter, just a matter of how many generations you, you'll be. have to wait. Probably a lot. So do you know, kind of changed the subject here. Do you know who Granger Smith is? No. He's a country music artist. Okay, country music artist. Excuse me. He's had a couple of number one hits. He has, he has been, he's really gone through hell. His, how old was his son? Three. Oh, yeah. I did see the story. Yeah. Yeah. So he's out with his son. And he is thinking, this is the greatest moment of my life. He's out. in the backyard playing with the son. This is the greatest moment of my life. Literally, no more than three to five minutes later, he's giving his son CPR. And his son went into the
Starting point is 01:47:59 pool, drowned and died. And he's, he's sharing some of his thoughts now. And I just want to share this with you, because this is, this is the way I feel right now all the time. Um, he, he wrote, what if we were all given a thousand days? What if you were given a gift of a thousand days on this earth? And you could live those days barefoot red hair flying back on your tractor full speed ahead. If you could do that with your family around you with no real care in the world, that's a good thousand days. That's a good way to live.
Starting point is 01:48:44 And, uh, I, I, tell you, we're missing some of that. I mean, everybody's going to always have cares. You know, we've been up here and, you know, we've had all kinds of things go wrong, a well go wrong. The weather went wrong for the farm and everything else. So you'll always have those. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:05 There's nothing like some of my best memories as a child is holding on to the back of the seat of the tractor. and standing basically on the, you know, the axle or the hitch in the back of the tractor as my grandfather was driving through the fields. There is something to be said as we're entering summer and in summer now for that shift down, getting out of that rat race all the time that we're in with school and with homework and everything else and just. just living barefoot and and letting your hair fly wild and just spend it with your family and trying to do that. I've spent, this year has been really tough for my son, really, really tough. Started last year, if you have been following the story, I've only really talked about it once and I don't want to go into it again. but last year we had a real scare with my son and a security issue with my son. And that affected him.
Starting point is 01:50:23 And he's really struggled with a lot of things. And he's coming up on 15 years old. And so he's a typical boy. And I've done more as a dad, I think, with him than any of my other children. sadly, because he's been close to the edge. He's really been close to the edge. So I've been with him a lot. And I've spent the last few weeks with him by my side and the last two weeks.
Starting point is 01:51:00 And I thank you for putting up with any kind of problems. And I thank my engineering staff and the studio staff for making all of this possible. But spent the last two weeks with him just, you know, building for. fences, you know, tearing, tearing things down and working outside and just being so exhausted that he's asleep by 7 o'clock at night. And he has, he's changed. He has really changed. I will see how long it holds. But just by saying, yeah, no electronics.
Starting point is 01:51:40 he bitched and whined for a while. But then he became so busy he didn't even ask for it. And I know that's going to change the minute we get into places where you can get cell service and internet. But kids don't want to slow down. But when you put them in a situation where the family, is slowed down and you're just out doing the things that you would have done as a kid, you, it roots them. It does root them.
Starting point is 01:52:21 And I challenge you to take the words of Granger Smith to heart. Because we are all given a thousand days. We just don't recognize it. The days pass and you're just like, oh, it's just another day. And before you know it, you're old. and they've slipped through your fingers. This summer begin just to think, and if I only had 30 days,
Starting point is 01:52:53 if I was given a gift of 30 days, what would I do? How would I do that with my kids? Then make it 60 days. By the way, you can donate towards, donate, you know, in memory of a Granger's son, he's raising money for the Dell Children's Medical Center in his son's name River.
Starting point is 01:53:21 They were the ones who tried to save him, and I will tell you, there is nothing more important than a children's hospital when you need one. He's raising money. He's raised over $100,000 already just by selling these t-shirts of a neighbor's tractor on the front. and you can donate through that. But he's got a lot of important things to say and our thoughts and our prayers. And we believe those are meaningful are with Granger Smith and his family. Back in a minute. Hey, if you're in pain, relief factor is there for you.
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Starting point is 01:55:26 One thing we did not get a chance to do today, we're going to do tomorrow, the new poll out on socialism. It is very revealing what Americans know about capitalism and socialism. It's shocking. Also, kind of tied into this is the fact that 40% of those 18 to 24-year-old adults are no longer using deodorant. I don't know what's happening to our country. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I don't like it. We're turning into France. And, you know, everybody's got an armpit. Nobody wants to smell yours. Let's just keep that in mind. That's on tomorrow's program. Now, Stu, the Chuck Todd, Akazio-Cortez border Barack Obama thing is unbelievable. Yeah, do we have?
Starting point is 01:56:18 Because where were these? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know where they've. been. So AOC says the thing about the border being like concentration camps. She went back off of that. She gets almost no pushback from the media or the left. People are going out of their way to defend them. Well, there was concentration camps in the Russian wars previously to the Holocaust. Maybe that's what she was referring to. Shut up. Even though she said, you know, what was it, never forget or whatever it was, like blatantly, we know what she was talking about.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Everybody does. And they're doing this sort of retroactive fix her comment thing. Well, Chuck Todd is like the only person. out there on the, you know, in the mainstream media who actually pushed back against this. Can we hear some of that audio? If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, fine. You'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps because they're not at all comparable in the slightest. But here's where it's upsetting as her comments. Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks.
Starting point is 01:57:16 I don't want to get criticized in Twitter. The fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response, one of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again. We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us. Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps. So why didn't he just say that? Why are we so sheepest calling out people we agree with politically these days? Obviously, this isn't a Democratic Party thing.
Starting point is 01:57:40 It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there. Are we really so ensconced in our political bubbles? liberal versus conservative that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore. Some things are bigger than partisanship, or at least they used to be. Yes. Yeah, sure. Yes. So, but again, like, at least he's standing up and saying, okay, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Obviously, those comments are absurd. Apparently not. Took huge bravery because he's under attack now. Yeah. So he's trending on Twitter. You think, okay, wow, someone stands up to the powers that be in the Democratic Party and calls him out. Maybe that's why he's trending. Now, here's the description.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Chuck Todd. Chuck Todd takes heat for criticizing the use of concentration camps to describe the humanitarian crisis at the border. So it's not that Ocasio-Cortez or all the people defending her are the problem. It's the one person in the media anyone could find on the left that actually took this to task. Pretty freaking amazing. It's not, they're not even trying anymore. Chuck Todd, thank you. Thank you for doing that.
Starting point is 01:58:45 I mean, we disagree on an awful lot of things, I'm sure. But when somebody does something right that took courage and it'll take on the mob, thank you, Chuck Dodd. I think we should tweet or, you know, Facebook or email him and just say thank you. We don't agree on anything or everything, but your bravery was noticed. Thank you. That is exactly what I wrote. I sent him a messenger pigeon that is arriving at the NBC studios right now with a handwritten note. I sent him a strippogram.
Starting point is 01:59:14 You did. Yeah, really. A male strippagram. A male stripogram. Yeah. Just to... I misunderstood the mail. I thought it was M-A-I-L.
Starting point is 01:59:23 And it turns out it wasn't. So if it causes any embarrassment or any kind of problems at NBC, I am heartfelt, sorry. And the only way to apologize for that is to send another male strippergram. Right. Right.
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