The Glenn Beck Program - 'Lies, Worries and the Beginning of the End'? - 7/26/18

Episode Date: July 26, 2018

Hour 1 #strawmageddon?...Media repeats stupid lie about how many straws Americans use...500 million a day? ...'Never Say Goodbye'; the love story of Danny and Annie Perasa..."There is nothing more ...important than marriage"? ...President Trump bans CNN reporter for asking questions; Is Trump way out of line here?    Hour 2 Tariff war worries, the beginning of the end?...Trump is right about the EU?...Dan Abrams Co-Author Book: "Lincoln's Last Trial: The Murder Case that Propelled Him to Presidency"...captures the presidential hopeful's dramatic courtroom confrontations in vivid detail as he fights for his client -- but also for his own blossoming political future ...In defense of Elon Musk, the Ben Franklin of our time?   Hour 3 Former US Army Major Eric King is finally home?...Eric and his family recently received a mortgage free home from 'Operation Finally Home', which provides mortgage-free homes to service members and their families who have become injured as a result of their service in the defense of our country ...The real number on ...ISIS claims responsibility for Toronto shooting? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network. On demand. Glenn back. The number one threat to America. The number one threat to the world. The indoctrination of our kids. Freedom of speech. Freedom of press.
Starting point is 00:00:18 War, debt. The death of the Western civilization. I mean, what is the number one threat to America and the world? Come on. Say with me. Plast... Plastic... Plastic straws.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Right? Plastic straws. I knew you knew it. The plastic straws. It's a catastrophe. Especially the extendable bendy kind of straws. I mean, love them as a kid, sure. But then you find out how evil they are. They are the worst.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Because, yes, they're fun. And they make people want to use a straw. even if one is technically not necessary. Now, I didn't get the specs on when a straw is necessary and when it isn't, but those bendy straws, they're the best. Now, we use plastic straws one at a time and then we throw them away. We just toss them out. When I was a kid, sometimes we would take more than one and we would use more than one,
Starting point is 00:01:27 but we'd still throw them away. and every single discarded straw in America ends up in the ocean. Now, I believe it's part of the Republican Party platform to ensure that all straws are dumped directly into the ocean. You know, along with plastic bags and those plastic six-pack ring thingies, I don't know what those are called. I think I'm, that's technically it, ring thingies. Ring thing. Yeah, okay. Because Republicans hate nature and everyone knows.
Starting point is 00:01:58 this. So the plastic straws end up forming giant straw masses, the size of icebergs that float around just looking for another ship like the Titanic to sink and menacing small islands, boating enthusiasts, and even nuclear submarines. Oh yes, don't laugh. Straw islands, they can be taken down by them. Now, don't ask me how, but trust me, it happens. These plastic straw icebergs, are large enough to be seen from space. In fact, astronauts report that they have made the mistake of spotting a floating straw iceberg and thought it was Hawaii. It wasn't straws.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Now, don't forget the aquatic life, and that's really much more important than anything else we've talked about here, the aquatic life that is going extinct because of plastic straws. It's stramageddon. It really is. Dolphins are being decimated by the straws, clogging up their blowholes and octopuses, which I always thought it was octopi, but it is technically octopuses.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Octopuses can't squirt ink now because the ink squirter is all blocked by straws. It's horrific. Discovery Channel is even talking now about canceling Shark Week because sharks all have tummy aches. Because, yes, they've been eating plastic straws, you know, because there's no more fish to eat and they're all dying from straw. and everybody knows it. But the evil Republicans won't do a damn thing about it. Now, since Americans use 500 million plastic straws every day,
Starting point is 00:03:39 500 million plastic straws every day just in this country, I think Republicans actually use more than that themselves, but it is clear, just looking at that number that we're all about to die. 500 million straws per day just in America? That's a huge number. And virtually every major media outlet has cited that stat as a fact. And so we know it is until it's not. Because NPR, of all sources, did some digging.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Turns out that 500 million straws that America uses every day, that number just came from a young environmentalist named Milo Crest. Now, when I say young, well, he was younger when he was, you know, when it was seven years ago. That's when he first cited this stat. And, you know, how old were you? How old were you seven years ago? You know, what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:33 You know, Milo was in the fourth grade. So when he found that stat, well, he didn't actually find that stat. He couldn't find any stats on how many straws were used each day in the U.S. So he just called straw manufacturers around the country and said, hey, how many straws do you think America uses? And they said, oh, a billion. Some said 100 million. And he decided that 500 million, they're in the fourth grade,
Starting point is 00:04:57 sounded right. So now major companies like Starbucks routinely make million dollar decisions like their decision to ban plastic straws based on research data from fourth graders, which is, you know, which is really great. And Starbucks has banned the plastic straw, which is also really good, except don't pat yourself on the back just yet, Starbucks, because the lid that you made to replace the evil straw is twice as bad, you know, in the amount of Moby Dick's tummy killers plastic. Uh, it's got twice the amount of plastic as a straw.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So, Spock's lids, America just discards directly into the eye of an octopus. It's coming soon. And believe me, the press will accept it. It's Thursday, July 26th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. I mean, isn't that just like them? So typical. Twice as bad as straws.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And everybody's petting themselves. Oh, we got rid of the straws. You made a lid that is twice as bad. It's unbelievable. It's not surprising at all. So I guess maybe it's not unbelievable. Yeah. But it is incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I like to, I've heard now. I don't know if this is true, but a second grader called me a little while ago and said that a lot of those lids are ending up right in the tearducks. of zebras. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Let's report that as fact. Well, we already have. It's on the radio now. And if I put it on the internet, then you'll have second source material for that. Right. So that's right. So that'll be good. Now we have a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:06:48 We have this stuff that's going on with CNN in the White House. And now Brett Bear is being, you know, just killed online. Oh, Brett Bear is sold out. Brett Bear has sold out. Come on. Now, there's this, this kickup of dust with the White House. And quite honestly, the best way to explain what's happening with the First Amendment is to explain to you what's happening with the Second Amendment. And we'll get to that here in just a second.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But I wanted to start with something different today. I wanted to start with something, I don't know, a little more personal. I heard something from StoryCorps. And I don't know if you listen to that podcast at all, but probably not because it's from NPR. And so it says NPR and you're like, no, no. But I listen to StoryCorps because I think these guys are, I think they're really good at what they do.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And what they do is they go and they record people having conversations, honest conversations. They put up these booths and people come in and they say, I just want to record my thoughts about whatever's going on. And they have a gigantic library now of all of these voices. And they will someday in history be really important. And one of the things that they did in, I think, 2006, and they've done several of them,
Starting point is 00:08:27 was the story between Danny and Annie. It's this old couple. And they went in to record their story one day. And everybody fell in love with them. And so Danny kept calling and he wanted to do more storycore. And so he would come in from time to time. And then there was one last episode of Danny and Annie. And it was about their love.
Starting point is 00:08:57 for one another. On, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, I've just got, I've got, I've got, I've got these weird things. The, uh, that are just, I don't know. But I, I could, I could barely use my hands over the weekend. And I've had to pack my hands in ice, uh, for the last few days and sleep with ice bags around my hands. And, uh, it's been really weird.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And, uh, and, and, and, and, you know, I, I, I think my wife is looking at me now going, I think I made the right choice. I think I, when I, When there was the whole selection of men to marry, I think I made the right choice. And I couldn't do it without my wife. I would be totally lost without Tanya. So yesterday, I'm coming in and I'm listening to this story of StoryCorps and Danny and Annie. And at the same time, I'm listening to this.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I look up at the TV and there's a picture that had gone viral of these two people, and they were in their 80s, and they were on a subway in New York, and the old man who looked like an old man, and the old woman who looked like an old woman, they're sitting next to each other on the subway, and they're practically in the same seat, and they're holding hands, and he has his head down and his eyes closed. and she is sitting right next to him and she has pressed her forehead next to the side of his forehead and I thought I want to live long enough to have that experience with Tanya. I want to be old and gray and I want her to be old and gray and I want to be the couple that is still in love with each other like kids in love. With that in mind, let me share a bit of the story of Danny and Annie from StoryCorps. Being married is like having a color television set. You never want to go back to black and white.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh, what a voice. Danny and Annie came back to StoryCorps many times. Then in 2006, he was diagnosed with cancer. He wanted to record one last interview, so StoryCorps went to their home in Brooklyn. The illness is not hard on me. it's just, you know, the finality of it. And him, he goes along like a trooper. She said it was her call.
Starting point is 00:11:54 She wants to walk out behind the casket alone. I guess that's the way to do it because when we were married, you know how your brother takes you down, your father takes you down? She said, well, I don't know which of my brothers to walk in with. I don't want to offend anybody.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I said, I got a solution. I said, you walk in with me, you walk out with me. And the other day, I said, who's going to walk down in the highway there behind the casket? You know, the supporter. And she said, nobody. I walked in with you alone. I walked in with you alone. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I always said the only thing I have to give you was a poor gift, and it's myself. And I always gave it. And if there's a way to come back and give it, I'll do that too. Do you have the Valentine's Day letter there? Yeah. My dearest wife, this is a very special day. It is a day on which we share our love, which still grows after all these years. Now that love is being used by us to sustain us through these hard times.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All my love, all my days, and more. Happy Valentine's Day. I could write all and on about her. She lights up the room in the morning when she tells me to put both hands on their shoulders so she can support me. She lights up my life when she's life. she says to me at night, wouldn't you like a little ice cream? Or would you please drink more water? I mean, those aren't very romantic things to say, but they stir my heart.
Starting point is 00:13:28 In my mind, in my heart, there has never been. There is not now and never will be another area. There is nothing like marriage. when you find the right person, don't let them go. My daughter, when she was in college, she fell in love with her husband now, Tim. And we were driving into the city. She was sitting in the back seat.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I was driving and I said, do you love him? She said, Dad, I love him. I love him so much. He's the one. And I said, then why aren't you, why haven't you married him? She said, because, Dad, you know, I mean, you know what society thinks,
Starting point is 00:14:46 and, you know, I'm young, and I'm in college, and, you know, you're not supposed to do that. And I didn't say anything for a while. And I said, I can't believe my daughter cares about what, the rest of the rest of the child. of the world thinks. If you've found the right one, there is nothing better than marriage. My father told me once, he said, son, make a list. Make a list of everything that you're looking for in a spouse. Write it down. Put it in front of you. The mind is like a beacon and you will
Starting point is 00:15:49 attract those things that you are looking for, whether you know you're looking for them or not. So be very careful of your thoughts. I was about to ask Tanya to marry me, as she said no the first time. But I found that list. It was about three years old. And I found that list. And if I had any doubts, which I didn't, she was everything that I had written down. if you are, if you have forgotten what it was like when you first fell in love with the person that is by your side
Starting point is 00:16:57 and you are rolling over in bed at night and you kind of kiss each other off the side and you turn off your light. Spend some time today just trying to remember what it was that first captivated you because there is nothing like last night when my wife came to bed our backs were to each other and she just reached over and grabbed my hand and we fell back to sleep
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Starting point is 00:20:02 So a press release came out yesterday from CNN. CNN White House correspondent Caitlin Collins was denied access to cover an open press event at the White House. After posing questions to President Trump earlier in the day as the network pool reporter. Collins was told by White House press deputy chief of staff for communications Bill Shine and the press secretary Sarah Sanders that her questions were inappropriate. They were not. Just because the White House was uncomfortable with the question regarding the news of the day doesn't mean the question isn't relevant and shouldn't be asked. That decision to bar the member of press is retaliatory in nature and not indicative of an open
Starting point is 00:20:44 and free press, we demand better. Okay. So what was this all about? Well, here is the raw tape. The president is meeting with the head of the EU and they're in the Oval Office. And the, you know, the press is allowed to come in and and view it and take some notes. And if the president wants to allow people to take questions, he can allow them to take questions. If he doesn't want to take questions, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's his office. He does it a lot, by the way. He takes questions a lot in these scenarios, more than I think any other president. He doesn't do a lot of formal press conferences, but he'll just let people come in and they just start peppering him with questions quite often. Now, if you watch the tape, this is, you have to remember, this is the president's office. And you know what it's like. If you've ever done anything, I don't know, I don't know how to relate this. If you've ever done anything, hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:44 you're a manager and you have to let somebody go you you bring them into your office but you want to have a way so everybody gets up at the end and walks out you don't want to be trapped someplace you know what I mean you have to have the plan of how do we get out the president is trapped in his office now that's why he will walk to the rose garden to do this so he can walk away. That's important. Because if you're staying in that room, it requires somebody to say, okay, everybody, let's go, let's go. And if they don't want to go, then you have ugliness. The president is doing what? Sitting there the whole time. So here is the actual raw tape of this correspondent, Caitlin Collins, from CNN, ask yourself if you think she's out of line by asking
Starting point is 00:22:45 these questions as the press conference is is breaking up and and they are being escorted out. Thank you, very. Thank you, everybody. Mr. President, are you worried what Michael Cohen is going to say to prosecutors? Let's keep going. Are you worried about what is on the other tapes, Mr. President? Okay. So stop. Thank you very much. So that's it. That's it. She's asking in a normal voice. There are people in the room screaming at the president. Yeah, she's one of many people. It's always like, did they get the wrong person? Right, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So she's, and she's asking, did Michael Cohen betray you by releasing these tapes? Are you concerned about anything else that might be on those tapes? Okay, those are legitimate questions. President may not want to answer them, but those are legitimate questions. And she's not screaming or being inappropriate and she's not the only one. Now, nobody is leaving the room. That's a real problem. People are like, okay, come on, move on, move on.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So on the first, on the first point with the, you know, did she do anything inappropriate? No, all of them did. Leave. It's over. Leave. But they always ask questions. Correct. And many times he responds.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Correct. Correct. But none of them were even moving. Yeah, there didn't seem to be, I mean, because we're watching the video here. Yeah. There doesn't seem to be a lot of movement from the press door. Though you can't actually see the door. So I don't know maybe the first people were starting to strike, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah. So I mean. to be on the other side of the room. Yeah, it is. So it's like a giant horseshoe. Yeah. So they have to go all the way around the room. So it might have taken some time.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But it wasn't, it wasn't bad that they did. I mean, that's what happens. Normal. Very normal. Get out. Let's go. Come on.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Get out. It's normal. Now, were her questions inappropriate? No. That's news of the day. She's asking normal questions that we would have asked. if it was Barack Obama, that's normal. I'm actually interested in the answers to those, too,
Starting point is 00:24:56 because it will indicate kind of where the story goes. Correct. Right? Like, is Trump going to try to say, no, no, he's a good guy. And who knows what kind of pressure he's feeling, which would indicate a much more, a bigger possibility of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:10 the Rift being healed. Or is it like, look, you know, he's, you know, I don't know what kind of crazy attorney, you know, tapes his client. is he still in that mode? Right. If he's still in that mode, the rift is still quite wide.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Correct. And quite honestly, I think the other person that wants that answer more than the American people is Cohen. He wants to know from the president. What Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:25:33 am I dealing with here? My friend and my protector or my enemy? Which one? Okay. So not appropriate. Okay. Not inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Not inappropriate. So next, well, she's with CNN. She's just a liberal hat. Well, no, she's not. Yeah, Caitlin Collins came to CNN from the Daily Caller. So, I mean, it doesn't mean that she's an ideological conservative, but certainly... She's not...
Starting point is 00:25:59 You're not a nut job liberal if you're taking a job at the Daily Caller. No. It's a very... People are trying to make this out because she currently works at CNN, that she's this, like, ideological liberal just out for the president. But, I mean, you know, she's a well-respected reporter, but came from a conservative outlet. Okay. So now have you ever noticed, have you ever noticed that when the press has any violation at all of the First Amendment, freedom of press, that they freak out. And it's like this.
Starting point is 00:26:38 They're all against terrorism until one of theirs is kidnapped by a terrorist. And then it's the biggest story of all time. Right? Yeah. I want to know. affects your world, you're going to be more fired up about it. Correct. Say that again, Stu. When it affects your world, you're going to be a lot more fired up about it. So that's normal. Pretty normal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Can you think of another amendment that maybe the press doesn't understand when it is violated in the least? Let me think. The second amendment? Second amendment. Second amendment. And what happens when the second amendment is violated, we're even like, bump stocks. Do you care really about bump stocks?
Starting point is 00:27:19 I'm never going to own a bump stock. Nope. No, me neither. So don't really care. However, however. However, don't know, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. I don't think you can take bump stocks. Shall not be infringed. Okay. So I don't really care about them. I'm never going to own them. I don't know who would own them. And they really don't do anything that you can't do yourself with a belt loop. I mean, so watch go on YouTube. You can find dozens of people doing the exact same thing a bump stock does with their belt loop. Yeah, I mean, so it's just ridiculous. So why does the right get all freaked out when you come after something like bump stocks? Because when you give them an inch, they look for a mile.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They look to take a mile. And it's the same way the press is feeling today when there's an inch taken. Yes, one reporter not allowed at one press. What's the big deal? It's not a big deal. But they're looking at the long term there and they're worried their rights are going to be taken away. Huh. Huh.
Starting point is 00:28:16 The right associated to a constitutionally guaranteed amendment that says you, there shall not be any infringement on your, in this case, free speech. In our case, Second Amendment. And that's why what's so frustrating when the press covers the second amendment. They say, well, what do you need? This is common sense legislation. What do you need bump stocks? You don't need bump stocks. You don't need a high capacity magazine.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What do you need those for? Well, we can say the same thing. There's dozens of other reporters. What do you need your reporter there for? What do you need your reporter there? There's tons of cameras there. What do you need your camera there for? And it's no big deal.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's just one reporter and the president is upset and blah, blah, blah, blah. We make all kinds of excuses. But we don't. We don't. And anybody who is mad at Brett Bear today from Fox when he came out and said, we stand firmly with CNN. Don't be mad at Brett Bear. If you want to be mad at anybody, be mad at the Constitution and be mad at James Madison
Starting point is 00:29:25 and Thomas Jefferson and all the great thinkers that gave us these rights. We are to protect these rights. And when anybody starts to violate those rights in the least amount, we must stand up for those those that even those, maybe more importantly, those we do not agree with. Last night I tweeted, I stand fully behind a free and unfettered press. I fully support the First Amendment right of the press. As much as it kills me to say this, I stand even though I disagree with the way CNN has handled the president and treats the president.
Starting point is 00:30:12 They have this right. And no government official should be able to ban somebody from an open press event. No one. No one. Period. However, CNN. We will follow the Constitution. And you have a problem right now with the First Amendment violation because you say the president is making you into the enemy of.
Starting point is 00:30:44 of the country. Hmm. So when I stand firmly for the First Amendment and your right to be an idiot, in my opinion, not in this particular case, but in others, you don't, you don't even say thank you. You don't even recognize it. Okay? You don't even recognize half of the country will stand up.
Starting point is 00:31:07 They despise you and they will stand up and say, I stand with them today. But you don't even notice. And then every time we stand up for a right that is just as airtight and guaranteed as yours, you look at us and say, we're dangerous. We're crazy. We're the enemy of the people. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You say that you are so offended because the president is calling a free press in your mind, the free press, an enemy. an enemy of the people, an enemy of the West, you have a problem with that. And yet when we stand up for our Second Amendment right, you say that about us, that we are the enemy of freedom. We are the enemy of security. We are the enemy of common sense and common decency. Now, I don't try to shut you down from saying that.
Starting point is 00:32:13 You have a right to say that. but I would like to say, CNN, I stand firmly by your right. I will go as far as George Hay did when he was writing the defense of freedom of press after the Sedition Act. Even if your intent is to lie, the government has no place, no place. to say, well, that one's a lie and that one's not. No place. No place because sometimes it is a matter of opinion.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And the government should not be regulating that at all. So I'll stand for your full right, even though you don't stand for mine. But I would like to ask CNN, would you take a minute and think about that right? and what responsibilities you hold to at least listen and recognize that we too are not your enemy. We too are not the enemy of freedom and the people. The American people, you said yesterday, CNN, that you demand better. Well, the American people have demanded better from you for a very long time. I stand with your right.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Even though I don't want to, as an American, I have to. So I stand with you shoulder to shoulder to defend you today. I would just like to ask, once in a while, surprise us, surprise us. Use that right and try to serve all Americans. All right. Welcome to the program. I want to tell you about blinds.com. It's,
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Starting point is 00:35:59 Go ahead. Do you want to make a comment on CNN and Caitlin Collins? Yeah, you know, I mean, I just think there's a time for everything. I understand First Amendment. I agree with you 100% on that. She's talking, asking questions at a normal voice. She's not yelling like the other people in the room. But if you notice, she's the only one asking about something other than the tariffs
Starting point is 00:36:23 in this meeting that they just had. I mean, James, I understand that. But since when does that happen? That is the way everyone deals with the president. No matter who the president is, you have a chance to ask a question. You ask it. I mean, they're not shouting helicopter questions as he's walking to the helicopter. Glenn, back. Mercury.
Starting point is 00:36:48 When the Germans invaded the Soviet Union and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the Axis powers learned a pretty big lesson. It should have been obvious, but it wasn't. If you're going to go to war, it might not be a good idea to start another one with the entire world. Three against the rest of the planet should have been easy numbers for the Axis statisticians to break down. Not good. Now think about those odds and how ludicrous it sounds to win a fight like that. Now think about how many countries we are currently threatening with a trade war.
Starting point is 00:37:30 China, all the countries within the EU, Mexico, Canada, the list goes on and on and on. You're not going to win a war that you're fighting on all fronts. The U.S. economy is not invincible. Something has to give. And we might be beginning to see the end of this trade war yesterday. President Trump and the joint head of the EU made a statement yesterday from the White House announcing a pause in the escalating trade war with the Europeans. Now, this has been going on ever since the Trump administration hit the EU with these steel and aluminum tariffs.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Europe then retaliated by imposing over $3 billion in tariffs on U.S. goods. The president then, in turn, threatened and imminent response targeting European cars. Okay. It's got to stop. And yesterday, it kind of did. We're not entirely sure how long this ceasefire is going to take place, and we're definitely not out of the woods yet. But we do know that President Trump agreed not to follow through with the European car tariffs and to, quote, reassess the steel and aluminum tariffs while negotiations are taking place. In return, Europe will boost purchases of U.S. soybeans and import more of our natural gas.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So if I have this straight, I think I do, all we have. have to do is not do something we hadn't done yet, the car tariff, and just reassess something we've already done, and in return, Europe will start buying more of our stuff? I don't know about you, but I'm pretty good with that. It sounds like a win. Let's go. Tariffageddon still looms. This is a temporary agreement that still has a long way to go, and the president tweeted that the
Starting point is 00:39:29 eventual goal is the elimination of all tariffs. That would be great. If that's the case, that would be great, but there is a long way to go. The president is not wrong about EU having greater tariffs on U.S. goods. That's a fact. How many U.S. built cars do you see in Paris? Probably not very many. The EU tax a 10% tariff on all of our cars, but that's low. considering how European tariffs are slapped on, you know, the U.S. agriculture imports. 17% on apples, 20% on grapes. So, yeah, there is a long way to go. But let's just hope we're moving forward.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Because if it breaks down, as it does with China and Mexico and Canada, and the 11th billion other countries we are threatening trade war with, we will lose. It's Thursday, July 26th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Dan Abrams. He is a professor. He's a lawyer. And he's an author of the latest book,
Starting point is 00:40:51 Lincoln's Last Trial, The Murder Case, that propelled him to the presidency. He's a co-author with David Fisher, who is just a great man. And welcome to the program, Dan. How are you? Good, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Good to be with you. So I'm reading this. I'm fascinated by history. in particular, Abraham Lincoln, the Lincoln Museum right now is about a year away from losing some of the most remarkable things that were personally owned and used by Abraham Lincoln. His hat and his bloodstained gloves from that night. You know, Mary's fan from that she was fanning herself that has blood splatters all over. They've never been in public before. and they were just purchased at auction, and now the Lincoln Museum has to meet a note,
Starting point is 00:41:43 and they're about $9 million away from making that, and they've only got a year. So I'm really kind of fascinated by him right now for many reasons. But this is a new discovery of the last case that Abraham Lincoln tried, and it was a murder trial, right, right before he went into the office. That's right. So we're talking about September of 1830. 59. He gets the Republican nomination in June of 1860. And this is the only case that Lincoln ever argued that was transcribed. Literally, every word of the witnesses questioning of the lawyer's
Starting point is 00:42:24 questions, et cetera, transcribed in a new thing called transcription. Wow. We never had that before? Yeah. No, most trials and most things weren't transcribed. I mean, what made Lincoln think of this for this case was that the person who transcribed this, and he's the person that we look at this story through the eyes of the transcriber, Robert Hitt. He was the guy who transcribed the Lincoln-Douglas debates for Lincoln, to the point where there was one of the debates, I think it was the second one, where Hitt wasn't in his seat in the front, and Lincoln would not start the debate until Robert Hitt was sitting there, ready to transcribe for Lincoln the debates.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And so he recommended to the family of the defendant in this high-profile murder case that in the event your son, your child is convicted, you'll want a record of what was said in court. And so they hired Robert Hitt, who also was able to distribute his transcriptions to the media at the time of what was happening. This was a high-profile case, and not really because Lincoln was arguing it. It was a high-profile case because it was a long-standing feud between two neighbors, both of whom were known as good young men with promising futures,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and they have this ongoing fight and a fight ensues and one stabs the other, then claiming self-defense, and there's a celebrity witness in the case. in the form of a preacher who was much better known than Lincoln was at the time, one of the most famous people in America at the time, Peter Cartwright. And he was not a fan of Lincoln. Correct. He had had a long-standing, he was a long-standing political rival of Lincoln's. He'd actually beaten Lincoln in an election in the 1830s.
Starting point is 00:44:27 This is not, and someone who really had harsh words to say about Lincoln over time. He called him an infidel. Exactly. Right. So Peter Cartwright was no friend of Lincoln's, and he was the key to the case for the defense. And the reason was because he had gone, he had counseled the victim before he died. He had gone, he had sat on his, and people didn't know if he was going to survive or not. But in the context of that, the victim allegedly said, I brought this upon myself. And I forgive Peachy, the defendant.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And those are incredibly powerful words when you're talking about a self-defense case. And so he became a critical witness. And there was one point where there was an argument over whether this should be permitted into evidence. Is it hearsay? Is there an exception to the hearsay rule here, et cetera? And Lincoln initially lost the argument. And we described in the book how furious he became. And we have quotes from people who were in court when the,
Starting point is 00:45:32 happened, say they'd never seen him ever like this, as furious as they'd ever seen him. And it's another side to Lincoln that we don't see and we don't hear about is not just Lincoln the advocate, but Lincoln, you know, becoming enraged at losing what he thought was a critical and he believed he had the right to introduce this evidence. Can you describe his Lincoln rage? So the, you know, the fury that they describe is, you know, it's over initially losing this, this legal ruling and saying to the effect that they felt like he was about to climb onto the bench of the court. And, you know, really just to the point where, you know, all I can, all we can do is use the contemporaneous responses from the people who were there. but both the court crier and his law partner both described later just the the depth of his fury
Starting point is 00:46:38 and how they had never seen him anything like that. Now, he had done like 25 murder cases and thousands of other cases, but this is the last one. The murder case that he tried before, I think the guy was hung, he lost, and the one before that he had won. right? Well, so, you know, his most famous case was called the Almanac trial, right? I mean, this was the case where this was in 1857, so this was two years before this case, where Lincoln, a guy had been convicted for killing another guy with effectively a rock, and there were two people involved, and the key eyewitness said he saw it clear his day because it was a full moon. And he said, he said he was about 150 feet away. And he described everything had happened with
Starting point is 00:47:29 these two guys. They were tried separately. The one guy got convicted, and the second guy was on trial, and he hired Lincoln. And everyone presumed he would be convicted as well. And when this guy gets up on the stand, he starts telling his whole story about the moon, and he remembers seeing exactly what he saw, the two of these guys hitting the sky. And Lincoln pulls out an almanac from that day, turns to that page, says, read to me what the moon was that day. It's only a quarter moon, not a full moon. A guy couldn't have possibly seen what he says he saw with no lights out there. And he was acquitted. And it really, that case really put Lincoln on the map. He was already well known, but this one elevated him. So was he
Starting point is 00:48:12 concerned at all about what this might mean to a presidential bid if he lost? Well, you would think he should have been, right? I mean, obviously any candidate today wouldn't take a high profile controversial murder case before. But I think, you know, back then, look, A, he wasn't, he wasn't a serious candidate. When I see a serious candidate, he wasn't a favorite in September of 1850. Did he have his eye on it? Sure. But he had just lost the Senate election in Illinois.
Starting point is 00:48:43 He was still well regarded by the party. This was only, as you know, the second time the Republicans were having a convention in 1860. So, you know, I don't think he thought seriously that he had to think about the presidency, and his job was being an attorney. Now, keep in mind, he also had a relationship with the family of the defendant. He had known them for a long time. He was also asked to do it by his former law partner. He always had enormous respect for Stephen Logan. And so, and I think he believed in the case. I think that mattered to Lincoln. The defendant, but he also
Starting point is 00:49:20 had a relationship with the, what was it, the victim? The victim, the mother of the victim, right? No, not just the victim himself. Greek Crafton. Reecrafton had interned in his office. So the victim had actually interned in Lincoln's office. Wow. So there was a lot of personal connection. And trials back then were just, you know, we're different, meaning we're in Springfield, Illinois. The only people who can serve on a jury are white men of a certain age who own land.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And so you've got a limited pool of jurors. You've got a limited. Everyone kind of knows everybody. And I think that's part of the reason that the community, was so invested in in this case. But I also think much like today when, you know, there's a good story, right? That leads to a trial becoming more well-watched. And I think that that's why this became a national case.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So how come... Sure. Yeah. How come these transcripts were not known for so long? They were in a chewed-up box with a yellow bow around it, found in the garage of the great-grandson of... the defendant after he died. And it was discovered there in 1989.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And my co-author, who brought me this project, he came to me and he said, you know, it's a transcript out there. It just came, just discovered in 1988. The only transcript that exists of a Lincoln trial. And it's a really compelling murder case.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And no one's really written about it. I said, come on. So it's Lincoln. What do you mean? What do you mean no one's really written about the last major trial that Lincoln did? it's the only transcript that exists.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Come on, David. We looked at, you know, I investigated. We investigated this together. He was absolutely right. It was one New York Times article from 1989 of the discovery. And then the American Bar Association did a sort of legal review of it a few years later. And essentially became a footnote to history. And yet our position is that this case was very important to him because, you know, his stock wasn't as high,
Starting point is 00:51:25 meaning Lincoln Douglas, he was very high 1858. We're now 1859. He's not really considered a serious candidate for president. He's trying to figure out his next step. And this was a high-profile case being widely covered. And so Lincoln had everything to lose by taking it. And I think in the end helped him quite a bit. A number of the people who worked on this case ended up working on his 1860 campaign, for example.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So what's the one thing, Dan, and we've got about 60 seconds. What's the one thing about Lincoln that you learned? I know you've been fascinated by him and, you know, have consumed his life throughout yours. What did you learn, new? I think for me it was, this is a book about Lincoln, the lawyer. This is a book about this case. We don't try and be the biographers of Lincoln. So what I learned was that Lincoln really was a smart attorney.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And what I mean by smart is he knew how to relate to people. He knew when to stop, not just how to ask questions, but he knew how not to bore the jury. He knew how not to get bogged down in details and he would be able to close those things up later. And I think that for me, learning all of this about Lincoln, the lawyer, and then seeing it, how he mastered it in this case was probably the thing I learned. most about him. Dan, thank you very much. The name of the book is Lincoln's last trial. The murder case had propelled him to the presidency. It's written by Dan Abrams, and his co-author is David Fisher, who has written like 20 New York Times number one bestsellers. He is a fantastic writer and researcher, and I'll tell you, there is nothing like reading a David Fisher book when it comes to digging up
Starting point is 00:53:20 the facts on history. Dan Abrams, David Fisher, Lincoln's last trial available everywhere now. All right. Our sponsor this half hour is LifeLock. You know, asking your smartphone, you know, what's the weather like? That's one thing. Asking it to send money to a friend, that's another. And that is soon coming.
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Starting point is 00:54:37 It's life-lock.com promo code back or 1-800-life-lock, 1-800-lifelock, life-lock. Lifelock.com promo code back. Dan Abrams, uh, he's a great. storyteller, isn't he? And by the way, the story of Lincoln, we're doing something with the Lincoln Museum down here at the Mercury Studios
Starting point is 00:55:02 in February. We're going to do Black History Month, and we'll be telling you more about that coming up. But the Lincoln Museum is just remarkable. And his story has to be told, and so many people are
Starting point is 00:55:18 starting to lose touch with our past and our heritage and Abraham Lincoln. You lose Abraham Lincoln. It's like losing Washington. We've already lost Washington. You lose Lincoln. You lose it all. And we're trying to help them raise money. They have a $9 million bill that they have to pay. Otherwise, this huge collection of really important stuff that has never been seen in public since his death, his hat and his bloodstained gloves, all the stuff that he had with him, including a lot of the letters and everything else, those were all in private hands.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And if it goes for auction, it's going to go back to private hands. It just will. And it's important that the Lincoln Museum has these so you can see them. And so we're trying to help them raise the money. And we would love to ask you, if you would, if you're a history fan, five for Lincoln, could you just do $5 a month for Abraham, Lincoln. And it will help preserve his legacy at the Lincoln Museum. So 5 for Lincoln, just go to 5 for Lincoln.com. You can spell it any way you want. Five, the number five, number four,
Starting point is 00:56:31 Lincoln, uh, or just five, F-O-R, Lincoln, whatever. Five for Lincoln.com. Go there now and pledge $5 a month to help them out. All right. In defense of Elon Musk, I cannot believe what we as society are doing about or to Elon Musk. He's not a perfect guy. He's not a guy I always agree with. He's not a guy who's always successful. But the guy is a genius. Now listen to what the New York Post just wrote about Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:57:14 So far, Elon Musk has only been successful at tricking people into thinking he's a success. One disastrous tweet has finally revealed Elon Musk for what? he is a fraud. Enraged that a British cave diver called his idea to rescue the Thai soccer team for what it was, a PR stunt with absolutely no chance of working. Mux took to Twitter and called him a pedo.
Starting point is 00:57:39 That was a stupid idea. Just like that, Tesla's market value plummeted by $2 billion. Musk has been in business since 2002. His stated goal is nothing short of transforming humanity through his products, his electric cars, space travel, and an underground high-speed hyperloop system.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yet he has yet to succeed at anything, but somehow spins every failure into proof of imminent success. His only accomplishment has been this decade-long Jedi mind trick. Tesla, best known for blowing deadlines and constantly falling short on production, the company has burned through $500,000 per hour. It's an epic talent drain. That's to say nothing of the human toll that Tesla has. caused. In March, a Tesla driver was killed while test driving an autopilot model X. Then in May, they announced an investigation after two teenagers were killed in a Tesla Model S after a battery
Starting point is 00:58:37 caught fire. A similar accident claimed the life of a driver two months prior. California's division of occupational... Okay, so did we get that? That's four people that have died in a Tesla. Four with a car that drives itself. Four. Anyway. California's division of occupational safety and health opened its third investigation into workplace safety at Tesla in July after employee complained. Two investigations have been ongoing since April, yet Musk took to Twitter to boast that Tesla was now building cars and a tent. Not sure we even need a building, he tweeted. This is a genius, says the New York Post. Tesla was founded in 2003.
Starting point is 00:59:19 World's Large Sautomakers quickly surpassed Musk's vision for electric vehicles. Oh, you mean like the vault that was catching on fire all the time? Tesla will never catch up. Shareholders are finally catching on. Musk isn't sorry and nothing is ever his fault. So should the government, which reportedly gifts Musk's companies with an estimated 4.9 billion in subsidies. SpaceX, which must touts as replacing NASA and colonizing Mars, has been a literal failure to launch. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Let me just go through this here. Elon Musk, failure to succeed at anything. Really? Stu, name one of the hottest cars in the road. I would assume you're saying Tesla. Okay, I think so. Name the fastest car in the world. Certainly at the price point, Tesla.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Name the car every single person that you know wants or drools over when you see them. Especially if they've ever driven one. Yes. The Tesla, they will drool over that car. Right. Name the only car that right now basically drives itself. Tesla's the most advanced probably in that, right? So who made that possible?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Probably the author of that article that you were reading. No, strangely Elon Musk, who didn't succeed at anything. Hey, Marine, let me ask you this. Ever heard of PayPal? Ever used it? How about eBay? Ever bought anything on eBay? well if you have you can thank Elon you know the guy who has never succeeded at anything
Starting point is 01:00:57 name any other person any other company any other government any other country that has ever put a payload into orbit and then landed three rockets so perfectly it looked like CGI footage can you do that in it on water on water the land it was moving That's a failure, that's a fraud. If it weren't for Elon Musk, this country would barely have a space program. And there'd be a lot of hungry astronauts. She continues. So the government giving gifts to the companies, $4.9 billion in subsidies.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like about him. He takes the subsidies. But he has also said, why would I not take them and let my competitors take them? It would put me at a disadvantage. So it sounds like he's being responsible to his shareholders. Yeah, I mean, there's a huge problem with this as a country. But, I mean, you know, look, if you're here. Every business that has, including oil and gas companies and all sorts of things.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And here's the thing. I'm against the subsidies. But the press, people like you, beat the hell out of everybody in this country to make sure that we had those subsidies. You would think that maybe this writer would be appreciative on making the very green lifestyle that idiotic progressives are incapable of creating themselves as being created by Elon Musk. SpaceX. Musk touts is replacing NASA, colonizing Mars, failure to launch. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Who has a sports car circling Mars choreographed perfectly with a, David Bowie soundtrack. Is it you, Marine? Do you have that or? No, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Who goes to space on a regular, reusable basis? Not NASA.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Well, he made a blooper real. Why would he do that? Because he has a sense of humor. Because he's one of the only people that actually has a sense of humor. He doesn't hide the difficulty of the challenges that he's trying to tackle. As for the hyperloop. Most experts say it's impossible and unnecessary. It gives me pause to think that otherwise intelligent people are buying into this kind of utopian vision.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They're up against the airlines, and airlines don't need to install hundreds of miles of track. Okay. You know what? We should probably do. We should probably come back to this one in 20 years. I don't know if this will work.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But I think I remember reading. stuff from these experts that said, oh, air travel, that will never, that's not. Going to the moon, that's crazy. Going to space, that's crazy. People only need one television and even that. I don't know if that's even possible. Really? Really?
Starting point is 01:04:07 That one's really silly to criticize. I mean, because I tend to agree with the, I don't think that's a real solution to our problems, but like wouldn't, their history has not been written on that one. Yeah. Yeah. And can I ask you? do, um, which one burns up, you know, millions of gallons of jet fuel and which one's clean. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:28 And do you think the left would love these ideas? You would think. And of course, obviously that's one of his motivations. Right. Right. Um, so she harps on about how, you know, the, the Thai rescue, blah, blah, blah. He, first of all, he apologized for his disgusting accusations against the hero diver. He did.
Starting point is 01:04:46 He did. Um, it, the, the diver. The diver said, you know, this is just a PR stunt. Imagine, imagine just for a second, that Elon Musk was actually trying to do the right thing. And he actually, I mean, we have the, we have the email exchanges from the Thai government. That the sub was built to specifications from the dive team leader. Well, wait a minute. Who was the dive team leader there?
Starting point is 01:05:15 Who was it? Now, I'm sorry that it didn't work. I'm sorry he wasn't able to invent a submarine capable of fitting through a cupboard door in time to be used, but the Thai military is keeping it and said it will be used for rescues in the future. He sent 10 engineers from SpaceX, Tesla, and the boring company to help. Marine, what did you do? What did you do? All right, the real reason why I want to bring this up is because I think we have, we are looking at a guy.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We're living at a time right now where we have Edison and Tesla and Armstrong and some of the greatest adventers of all time. And they're doing miraculous things. And we don't seem to even notice. These people are changing the world and they're going to fail over and over and over again. Because there's no model for this because it's brand new. Here's a real point. why suddenly is Elon Musk being attacked? He's been the hero for so long.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Right. He's been praised almost universally for years and years. Yeah. Yeah. Especially by the media in the left. Yes. Yes. And it's funny because they seem to have found out that in this current cycle,
Starting point is 01:06:50 he gave seven times more money to the right than he did to the left. Now, normally he gives equally to the left and the right, but in this current election cycle, he has given more money to the GOP than to the DNC by seven. I wonder, I wonder if that's not what drives Marine and others crazy. I'm just wondering if maybe, perhaps, how dare you step out of Elon Musk. How dare you support these monsters? In today's world, I don't know which is true. I mean, people could be so short-sighted and so blind that they don't see that somebody
Starting point is 01:07:47 like Elon Musk is once in a generation. And so they'll just torch him because they are small-minded. And they don't know how real science and they don't know. know how real innovations are actually done. You're going to fail over and over. You're going to fail much more than you succeed. But it is the one who keeps picking himself up and brushes the dirt off of his face and the sweat off of his brow that says, okay, let's go again.
Starting point is 01:08:24 It's those people that made America great. Those people. and I know Elon Musk isn't originally from America, but he sure has the American spirit. He is the embodiment of what made us great in many ways. He's not without his flaws, but I'm not sure which it is. It's either just myoptic little people, or it's worse.
Starting point is 01:09:02 it's people that will destroy anybody who has a different political opinion than theirs I don't know I'm conflicted it's very tight you have to admire the ability though to go through all these supposed failures and he's had some failures
Starting point is 01:09:28 and many question marks right we don't know how these things are going to turn out but like how did he do all those things like how does he have the money to start all these businesses shouldn't you point out that he obviously did succeed and make billions of dollars to give him the opportunity to fail at whatever you think he's failing at? He succeeded eBay, PayPal.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Those were things that were not easy slam dunks. Those were crazy. He graduated from that kind of crazy to, hey, let's go to Mars. And he's obviously had a lot of amazing technological success there. But think about how difficult PayPal was at that. time. You remember that era? Yes. People didn't want to put, they didn't want to use their ATM card to, to deposit money.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yes. They didn't want to put, put their credit card into a computer because they were worried it would get stolen. And you tell me, you tell me of any man besides Ben Franklin, who has been in his position with inventions, who has said, I'm going to make all of, I'm going to make all of my research, all of my plans on batteries. It's all open to the public. I hope somebody will take it and build off of this because it's important for humanity. Only Ben Franklin that I know of has done that. Oh, and Elon Musk. All right. I want to talk to you a little bit about preparing yourself.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You know, when there's a problem, a hurricane, a fire in California, mudslide, an earthquake. Do you hear about all the earthquakes in California? Jeez, man, California. I mean, what are you? Run. Get out. Get out. Anyway, they're now worried that this.
Starting point is 01:11:14 The big one is coming. I don't know. Anyway, how much food do you have? How much food can you grab and go? You know, you think about these people who are like in Houston that, you know, they had to leave their house and they had to go stay in some hotel. Well, you also had to feed your family. I mean, think about how fast that would. put you in the poor house.
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Starting point is 01:12:36 That's 1-800-200-271-63, or you can find it online at preparewithglen.com. That's prepare with glen.com. Glenn back. When is the Falcon Heavy launching? Do you know? November. If you've never taken your kids to a missile launch, you should take them. A rocket launch?
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah, rocket launch. Not a missile launch. Hey, North Korea, everybody. You got to go to a rocket launch. They are amazing. I saw the second to the last space shuttle launch with my kids. And it's a wonder of the world. It's a wonder of the world.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And while you can't watch that, you can see now in November. You can see the Falcon Heavy launch. That's the SpaceX rocket launching. Don't miss it if you're anywhere around. Glenn, Beck, Mercury. It's Thursday, July 26th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 01:13:41 U.S. Army Major. Eric King is finally home. He thought he was going to meet a guy called Ronnie Lyle's project manager of Operation Finally Home for coffee. This is a week ago Monday. When he got out of his truck, he looked a little shocked and a little humbled. He was greeted by a gathering of journalists and friends, a bunch of Texas flags. It happened here in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:14:08 King is a veteran. He served in our army for a family for. 13 years. Two tours of duty in Iraq, one in Afghanistan. He was wounded by an IED explosion in combat. Now, the guy who was surprising him, Ronnie Liles, said this. We'll never know what he's gone through. We never know what he's going through and what he will continue to go to the rest of his life. We're able to remove the burden of a mortgage for he and his family, but he's still going to have these mental, emotional, physical injuries and scars that he's going to deal with on a daily basis for the rest of his life. So we're doing this so that we can just be a small part of helping
Starting point is 01:14:52 him to heal and to start a new chapter in his life. Since the founding in 2005, Operation Finally Home has donated over 150 houses to veterans all across the country. Major King said this. I want to say thanks to the soldiers who serve beside me, who are the true heroes, who are no longer here with me today. I think about them every day. And I think, and I think the American people who are served for this country. There is no greater place I want to be. There's no greater country I would rather serve than the great U.S.A.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So I thank all of you on today for being here. I thank all of you for your love and support. And I am glad to now be a citizen of urban Texas. King and his family then took the shovels and broke ground where their house is going to be built. Behind them two giant American flags and a rendering of the future four-bedroom house where Major Eric King and his family will finally call home. Major King, how are you? I'm great this morning. How are you?
Starting point is 01:16:06 I'm great. I'm glad to have you here. Thank you. We also have Ronnie Liles here. Ronnie. How are you? Good. Good morning, sir. Good to see you. Thanks, sir. So, first of all, you thought you were just going to go for coffee with Ronnie? Yes. You had no idea.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Well, it was another man by the name of David Royals. I was told to meet with him at Joe's coffee shop. And we was going to meet with the builder to interview with him to see if I can be a candidate to receive a mortgage-free home. home from Operation Finally Home. And once I got there, I was told, we had to go and meet with the builder there seemed to be an issue over at the site. What did your, what did your stomach tell you?
Starting point is 01:16:52 I said, okay, if I suppose that met with the builder here at the coffee shop and he's not here, then maybe they've already interviewed the other candidate and they want to go with that candidate. So they pretty much just want to now cut my interview time down and me with me and my family for a couple of minutes and sent us on our way.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And so you pulled up and you saw everybody there. Yes. Yes. Surprise, shocked, blown away. And I'm like, okay, probably the interview. Now these people.
Starting point is 01:17:27 What's going on? And then when I was told, well, hey, you've already been selected. At their point, I just became very emotional and just shocked and surprised. So you, when you pulled up, you didn't know it was for you.
Starting point is 01:17:41 As we were pulling up, and I'm like, hey, what's going on? Well, first when the police escort pulled out, I'm like, okay, we just got into something that's going on up ahead of what as a convoy. We just got involved in this. So you just thought you were like you're accidentally in the middle of a funeral procession. There's something's going on because you had a police escort. Yes. And you pulled out of where?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Oh, we was just driving down the street. and they just pulled it out of a parking lot. Uh-huh. It just got in front of us the lights on. So, yeah. Ronnie, tell me, tell me what a mortgage-free house means. I mean, I know what it means, but do you have to pay for anything? Do you have to help build it?
Starting point is 01:18:30 What is this? Well, back when we started in 2005, Glenn, our mission was to provide custom-built mortgage-free homes to America's wounded ill and injured veterans as well as the widows of the fallen just to honor their courage and sacrifice. And so what we do with every project is start with a builder. And when a builder confirms that he wants to do a project, then we reach out to his trade partners, his suppliers, vendors, and we get them to donate as much as they can.
Starting point is 01:18:58 So at the end of the day, Operation Finally Home picks up the gap funding, but we are presenting a truly deserving veterans such as Major King. with a 100% mortgage-free home that's going to, you know, change their lives forever. Yeah. How did you select him? Our selection process is very thorough. Applicants can apply. They go through a very thorough vetting process.
Starting point is 01:19:24 They must be honorably discharged. Our primary focus is 70% or more disabled. They have to pass a criminal and a financial background check. They have to be able to show that they could take on. home ownership as a responsibility. And so when we present our candidate to the builder and the builder community, we want them to know that we've done our due diligence. So in this case, with Major King, I think we've hit a home run. He, as well as his family, are just great folks and they're excited to be getting a mortgage-free home and starting a new step in their
Starting point is 01:20:02 lives in Irving. How, are you from Texas? No, I'm not. When I retired, in June 28th of 2016, I came here to Dallas. Prior to getting out, I wanted to see what state and city had the best veteran facility, of course, the VA that would be able to provide me all the assistance in medical care and treatment that I needed. And I found that Dallas was the best VA for me. Tell me about your wound. Tell me about what happened to you with the IED. Well, it was my very first mission, actually, when I went out, my first IED encounter that came about with the traumatic brain injury and all the other ailments or disability that came behind it.
Starting point is 01:20:50 But I was an infantryman, a rifle platoon leader, and we was out on the mission and just out of nowhere, IED explosion, and just things just went from there. How is the VA? The VA, if it wasn't for the VA, I'll probably be worse off than what I am. The VA here in Dallas has provided me with the utmost care and treatment and meeting the needs for me to make sure that I can be in a position to help reclaim my life, both mentally and physically. What are you going to do now? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:21:29 Right now I'm 100% permanent in total, disabled. so I'm unable to work due to my disabilities. But currently right now, I have kids that I am home for it, that I can help now raise. Because I miss so many years of their lives coming up due to multiple deployments and training. Tell me about your kids. How old are they?
Starting point is 01:21:50 I have an 18-year-old. You do not look old enough to have it. You know, I've got to say like five. Jeez, yeah. 18. How old are you? I'm 39 years old. Wow. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:22:06 No, get out of my house. You look like you're 22. Yeah, 39 years old. I came into the military, fairly young, actually served 16 years in the military. That was a typo with the 13. But 16 years I served in the military. So, yeah. Tell me of your wife.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Not well. hopefully my wife and I will be able to restore our marriage. We don't have a marriage anymore. And I would say to a lot of veterans who have served in the military who have encountered physical and mental
Starting point is 01:22:51 things from being deployed, coming back from deployments, coming out of the hospital, being medically retired out of the military, as a transition that we go through. And a lot of times, things that we have endured and encountered, it kind of fall back into our homes with our families.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I bet it does. And there was a period where I was going through a lot. I was going through a lot before I finally started getting the actual help that I needed mentally. And that brought a wedge in between myself and my family. So I would say to all veterans out there, get the help that you need not tomorrow but today
Starting point is 01:23:35 because it can totally change your life in a way where your loved ones are forced to feel like they're walking on eggshells. They feel like they can't be there because we are going through some things that's
Starting point is 01:23:50 pushing our families away from us. I have to tell you everybody I know that is in the military you're just different. You're just all different. I mean, you know, just you have brothers, and that was your life, you know, and you're doing things that nobody does. Nobody does.
Starting point is 01:24:10 And everyone that I know that has been wounded, especially if they're fully disabled, they're not fully disabled up here, you know. And it has to be, I don't want to get too personal, but it, I can imagine that it is, it's a challenge to you as a man to come home to lose all that and then not be able to you know do what society or what you've always thought you were supposed to do and it's it's got to be rough on a marriage it's very tough uh i can speak for me um being back home uh being told you can no longer serve coming into the military in my mind i want to serve 30 plus years. I want to go as far as I can possibly go beyond major
Starting point is 01:25:01 lieutenant-current-current-current-and-above. But being told you can no longer serve, you are being forced to medically retire out, and you feel like that there's still unfinished business overseas. Because it's like, okay, this happened to me, I need to go back. So being back at home with your family, every day you're thinking about the soldiers' lives that were lost, the soldiers that was injured, things that felt like for me under my command and the positions I served. I've studied saying to myself, what could I have done differently on that mission?
Starting point is 01:25:38 So I live with that every day. You don't ever get to, you know, it's like when you get, you fall off a horse, you get back on. You don't get a chance to get back on. No. No. Does it, is it hard to come back to a society that seems so frivolous? Operation Finally Home
Starting point is 01:26:00 has helped since last Monday me to say you know what the American people in public they still care because once you come back
Starting point is 01:26:13 and you've gotten out of the military for me I was no longer Major King I was Eric King and I felt like I lost that power base I felt like I lost you know
Starting point is 01:26:25 taking care of soldiers making decisions and now I'm here and it's like well nobody care about me you know I go to the VA I get my treatment get my medications physical therapy you know behavior health and all that I'm like I just feel like I'm a nobody now so it really made me you know say that the American people they still care about us they still like that they care about us and I felt like at one point I was lost. I ain't know what to do. I was just a nobody now
Starting point is 01:26:59 who was fighting to reclaim my life. Millions of people care. Deeply, deeply care. We just don't always know what to do. We don't always know what to say. And I'm glad you're here. How can people get involved running? We love to let the community get involved in each project.
Starting point is 01:27:25 So I would encourage everyone to go to our website, Operationfinelyhome.org. Operationfinelyhome.org. They can follow every project that we've got going throughout the country. They can also look at the bios and visit and find out more about our heroes that we've been able to honor in projects that are currently underway. And they can also donate to Operation Finally Home or to a specific project. So if you're a builder, you want to get involved.
Starting point is 01:27:51 if you make things that, you know, are used for home building or for home supplies, you can donate, but you can also, as a regular person, just donate cash. Absolutely. Okay. It's remarkable what you do,
Starting point is 01:28:05 and I thank you for that and all of the people that you work with. I don't know if you ever feel like this, but in a man's life, you can feel like, do I make a man's life? a difference at all, like what you were saying. And if you ever feel that way, you listen to what he just said.
Starting point is 01:28:34 It's remarkable. Good for you. Operation Finally Home, join them. Major. Thank you. Welcome home. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
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Starting point is 01:30:45 That was an amazing story. He just said to me off air. He said, this is one of the first times I've gone back out. And I said, what do you mean? We were talking about his wife. And he said, you know, it's taking me a while to realize it. It was me. It really was me.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Wow. Yeah, and I said, you know, good luck. And he said, I'm, I just have to, I just have to show her that I understand that it was me, not her. And he said, you know, but it was the night terrors and the, and the on guard all the time. And he said, and not wanting to go anywhere, not going out. He said, I, I refuse to go out anywhere. I didn't want to go outside. and this is the first time he got back home 2015.
Starting point is 01:31:37 2015. I mean, we've had so many, you know, veterans come through here with similar stories. Yeah. I mean, it's so common to have to go through that. And, you know, it's just like, as you said, the people in the military that we see all the time, they're just different. I always think of them just better, just better people. Like, how are they the same species as me? I know.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Fat Dolt who's just sitting and eating Cheetos every day. I know. But part of that I think is what makes it so difficult. It's easy for me to transition to a life where I don't leave the house because, first of all, no one wants to see me. And secondly, I'm slovenly. But for someone who has gone through all of that achievement and all those important tasks and all those life-threatening situations to adjust to a life like that is incredibly taxing on you mentally. I feel, because I think of the veterans all the time, all the time. I see these guys who, you know, were veterans and they lost, you know, two arms, a leg, one eye, both ears, you know, in the top of their head.
Starting point is 01:32:43 And here they are, skiing down a mountain. And you're like, what the hell? You know what I mean? It's just like driving up a mountain. I didn't. Why are you just not watching somebody? I watch Cliffhanger. That's what I would be doing.
Starting point is 01:32:57 I'd be home. I'd watch. Oh, I'd be through every Netflix series. I'd be through every... I mean, I, and, you know, anything that you got going on, you get a hangnail and you're like, I don't think I can go out. I mean, my finger really hurts. Oh, the amount of torture I think I'm in when I have a canker sore is like, it's basically end of times.
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Starting point is 01:35:04 The attack killed two people, recent high school graduate, Reese Fallon and 10-year-old Juliana Kosis, 13 injured, including six women and girls and seven men. Authorities have not publicly speculated on the motive of the gunman, Faisal Hussein, or explained how he obtained the handgun used for the attack. Okay. So what they're saying here is this is a guy who went through depression. They're not blaming it on the gun. They have pretty tough gun laws up in Canada.
Starting point is 01:35:43 So it's certainly not the gun. Although he strangely found a way to a gun. But they can't figure out, quote, I can't put two and two together, said Amir Shakira. I just can't believe it's him. He lived with his parents, Hussein parents. He did. Carried out boxes of possible evidence with, you know, the equivalent of the FBI up in Canada.
Starting point is 01:36:15 But he was found dead on Sunday after he exchanged gun, gunfire with police and then fled. So can't figure out what he did. Why would he do that? Can't figure it out. Right. ISIS's claimed response. He said he was one of theirs. He still can't figure it out.
Starting point is 01:36:33 I don't know what the deal is. I mean, pretty confusing. It is. When you think about it, I mean, what could it be? Did you have any idea? Is there any, are there any theories? For Faisal Hussein and why he shot people? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Does anyone have it? Was it, did he have an issue with, well, he was probably depressed. He was probably depressed because he's living in Canada and, you know, that can be a little oppressive and, you know, people probably might have been mean to him. Did Trump set him off? that's the only thing I can think of it. Oh, that could be Trump's fault. But Trump's fault.
Starting point is 01:37:02 That's good. Could I throw one out there? Barack Hussein Obama, or former president, Faisal Hussein, right? Is it possible that this guy is just an incredible... Mean Christian? A mean Christian. Because our president, as you remember, former president, hardcore Christian was at church for 40 years.
Starting point is 01:37:19 And I didn't really catch anything that happened in the sermons. Well, he slept through a lot of the sermons. A lot of sermons. But I mean, you know, he's a hard worker. A tired guy. Yeah. So hardcore Christian guy. I could it be an extremist Christian attack?
Starting point is 01:37:31 That's probably right. Okay. That's probably right. Okay, good. It probably is. So is there any evidence of anything else, Pat? Any evidence of anything else? No.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I mean, we can't, other than what we've just outlined here, we can't figure it out. Again, ISIS tried to shed some light on this, but I still don't get it. What did ISIS say? Well, they claimed credit. They claimed he was an ISIS fighter. Well, you can't trust a radical Islamist. You can't. You can't trust them.
Starting point is 01:38:04 They don't, you know, they'll say anything. Right. Yeah, they usually tell you what they're doing kind of in advance. And then afterwards, they'll also tell you what they've done. So I think we need to look into his mental health again. Gun laws. You should look into gun laws. Oh, that's a great one.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Just looking to gun laws. Because there's no gun laws in Canada. It's basically the Wild West out there. Other than some of the toughest in the world. Yeah, well, other than that. Other than that, I mean, we all know that. It's other. It is the Wild West, other than the toughest gun laws in the world.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Right. And there is a 59% increase in gun violence over the same period from last year. Wait a minute. So. No, wait. Mm-hmm. What? Is that the damn Americans coming over with our guns?
Starting point is 01:38:50 The NRA is looking for a root and good time. It has to be that. It has to be. Yeah. Well, they've run out of people to shoot here. So they're going up to Canada. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:59 They've killed everybody they possibly can. So now they're looking for fresh killing territory in Canada. White men? Basters. Americans? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Christians?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Yeah, Christians. Now, he wasn't. By Trump. He was, he was, he was, he was Arab. Faisal Hussein? Yeah. Was it, was he? Oh, can I guess?
Starting point is 01:39:20 There's no clue as to his heritage. No, I've got a guess. You do? Well, I believe that Faisal Hussein was colluding with Donald Trump in Russia. Okay. That's what I think happened. Okay, well, I'm not sure if I could go take you on that lead.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Can I ask, was he an immigrant? Was he, was he born in Canada? I don't know. All right. I don't know. Was he, was he a Muslim? Well, I, with a name like Hussein, sharing the same name as our former president, you would say no.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I'd say no. I would say, no, he was not. But have you seen any reporting on whether he was Muslim? Zero reporting on that. Yeah. Huh, this is perplexing. It's a conundrum. It is.
Starting point is 01:40:09 It is perplexing. I wonder what's happening. Huh. I think our best guess, as it's formed right now, is Donald Trump colluded with the Russians to place this person here. An extremist Christian. Extremist Christian. Yeah. As he shares the name with our former president.
Starting point is 01:40:25 And it was because the NRA. gave him the guns to cross the border and then he shot a bunch of people. I think that's where we are. That's exactly where we are. We may, now, that's not to say there might be some information
Starting point is 01:40:41 at some time that may make us believe something else. One thing we can rule out is Islamic extremism. We can rule that out. We can rule that out. There's no, there's no evidence of that. No evidence. None. Zero.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Zero. Zero. Now, we may come to find out that perhaps a tea party extremist was involved. We're not sure. It could be the tea party extremist, could be
Starting point is 01:41:07 a member of the Freedom Caucus. There are several possibilities of who this guy could be. But we know they're all white. We know they're white. And we know they're Christian. We know they're Christian. And we know that they're conservative.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, well, let me just say it. All right. I mean, let's just stop using the cover story of conservative. You know what? Let's just stop the Bush. Let's just stop doing it.
Starting point is 01:41:31 It's the all right. It's Nazis. It's, yes. It's white, small government Nazis that are Christians. It had to be said. It had to be said. You know what? I'm, I, you know, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Faisal Hussein wasn't even there. That he wasn't there. He wasn't even there. That's a great point. It wasn't even there.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It wasn't even there. It was probably, it's a. false flag probably tied up by some white Christian held and they're only using him because he's a minority. Would you be surprised to find out that this story we're hearing about this Faisal Hussein was just a cover up for the person who really did it, Brett Kavanaugh. I would not be surprised. I would not be surprised.
Starting point is 01:42:21 That is the thing fit in my world belief right. You know, sometimes when like a glove. When sometimes people say something, you know, how it just, it just like connects with you. And it rings true. Right. Now, it probably didn't happen, but what high impact. Oh.
Starting point is 01:42:38 If it did. If it did. Low probability high impact. Yeah. I mean, I'm learning that from, I'm learning that from MSNBC. Got to consider it. It may not have happened, but we should seriously consider that Kavanaugh, Trump, white supremacists, Christians, Nazis.
Starting point is 01:42:56 tied this guy to a chair, wound him up, okay? And then he's still, no matter how craze they made him, he still would not do it. Wouldn't do it. So Kavanaugh himself came and was the trigger man for the massacre up in Toronto. That makes sense. It does. It does make a lot of sense. That was basically like an entire law and order or 48 hours episode right in front of your eyes.
Starting point is 01:43:22 You just heard it. The problem is solved. When am I ever going to get a client that will tell me this? truth. When will I ever get a guy like Kavanaugh to come into my office and say, look, I killed him. I mean, I can't help these clients if they don't tell me the truth. And do-da-dum. That's the way it works. It was wrapped up so nicely on those programs.
Starting point is 01:43:44 We never get the truth, though. We never really find out what happened. And we'll probably never know, Pat. We won't. But I do know this. There's no evidence of Muslim extremism here. Why are you even bringing that out? No evidence at all.
Starting point is 01:43:55 I'm rolling it out. I just wanted to make it out. sure that everybody knew. I don't want any hate to happen as a result. Cut the knees off of those speculators. Right. And I mean literally. Literally.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Cut the knees off of them. Yes. Because we have, there's no place for that kind of speculation. Not in our society. Not in our society at all. Not in our society at all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Now there is, there has been a case that has been solved. There was a, there was a, there was a guy named Kelton Griffin who asked a woman whose name shall remain nameless here. She, Griffin approached her and said, hey, I really,
Starting point is 01:44:44 I think we have a lot in common. And, and I think we should, we should go out. And she said, well, um, that wasn't really elegant the way you stated that,
Starting point is 01:44:56 but, uh, okay. So he said, look, can I come over to your house and can we take your car? And she said, okay, you're starting to sound like a loser, but okay, sure. So he rang the doorbell and he said, I tell you what, you know, let's, you know what, let's stop for some gas for the car. And she's like, well, you know, we have, we're just going around the corner. He said, yeah, but let's stop for some gas.
Starting point is 01:45:24 so he gets out in chivalrous that he is. And he was driving, I believe. Yeah, he was driving. Yeah, her car. Yeah, her car. Right. That's, I mean, what part of this didn't you understand? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:37 So he takes her car and they're stopping to get gas. And he says, hey, let me pump the gas. You go in and pay for the gas. And why don't you get us a couple of cigars? That's nice. Okay. All right. That's, again, a little weird, but okay.
Starting point is 01:45:53 So she's in, you know, and she's in the 7-Eleven, you know, walk-in humidor, I'm imagining and saying, what, you know, what do you suggest? And he's like, oh, I've got a Monty Crystal over here. That's great. Anyway, so she's buying the cigars. And when she finishes buying the cigar, she walks outside and the car is gone. And, and her phone is in the car. Okay. And so she's, she's calling him. She's calling her. And she's like, where is the car? And he's not answering. And so she, you know, she calls the police. And they said, you know, Mike, you know, the car has been stolen. I know who did it. And so the police are like, okay, well, we'll look around. But, you know, we're police.
Starting point is 01:46:41 And so we, we usually beat minorities. Is that what they said? Well, I'm pretty sure that's. That's probably. I mean, if they were, these were the honest cops. Okay. And they said, we're usually at this time just beat. minority. So I don't know if we're going to be able to squeeze this in. She said, well, I happen to know,
Starting point is 01:46:58 my sister knows his relative. So I'll call my sister. She'll call the relative. And maybe the relative will call him and find out where the car is. And so she did. And she found out that he was at a drive-in movie theater. Because he had made a, he had made a date with somebody that he really liked a lot and he didn't have a car. And so he needed to borrow somebody else's car. And so he left, you know, the cigar and gas store and drove to another girl's house and said, hey, I'm here for the date. And what do you think of the car, huh?
Starting point is 01:47:45 We've all been there. Right? How many times does that happen? Three times last week alone. Really? Mm-hmm. Wow. That weird?
Starting point is 01:47:53 The last week is a lot. Seems coincidental. It seems like if you're going to target this sort of maneuver, where you're going to go out on a date with another woman, perhaps you don't go to a date that requires the car, right? Like, you could have gone to a normal movie theater and met them there and not needed to steal a car, but instead you went to a drive-in movie theater,
Starting point is 01:48:17 which is, was there 20 of them in the country? Yeah, I mean, you know. Couldn't you call it? And how many people were probably there? I mean, I don't think it was a, you know, a big stakeout. There were probably like four cars there. So like, you know, it's like Barney Fife just waiting going, yeah, get out of the car. What's interesting is the guy had no car and no money.
Starting point is 01:48:37 So both dates had to pay for the gas, had to pay for the cigars, had to pay for the food that they picked up at the gas station, humidor store. Right. And then had to pay for the drive-in movie, the new date. Yeah. But it's not like he doesn't love them. I mean, he went to the trouble of stealing a car for him. It was right. Pat Gray Unleashed on the Blaze Radio and TV networks.
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