The Glenn Beck Program - 'Little Steps of Courage'? - 9/26/18
Episode Date: September 26, 2018Hour 1 Courage is a muscle...and it must be worked out ...speaking truth takes courage...since when did America become a nation of 'witch hunters'?...the decline of 'innocents until proven guilty'...b...asic details can't be remembered about incident? ...Glenn asks 'What makes somebody great?'...shares a personal and honest father and son discussion? ...Caller Chuck in Ohio...Glenn "most people just don't care" and "how do we get people to care?"...Actual Justice vs. Social Justice...doing our best to stop making 'justice blind' Hour 2 Springtime for Snowflakes with Author and Clinical Professor NYU, Michael Rectenwald joins...the 'Anti-PC' Professor who is suing NYU and professors for defamation...colleges are minds full of mush? ...New York Times get unbelievably 'honest' about Kavanaugh...act of journalism ...Ronan Farrow admits accuser only came forward after the senate 'began looking'? Hour 3 'Outrage Culture' with Mona Charen...in a world of accusations, enough to destroy peoples reputations...the days of the duel?...when ones 'reputation' was everything...Kavanaugh in the #MeToo Era...the left are destroying anything and anyone by all means necessary...Book: 'Sex Matters' by Mona Charen ...The least funniest man on TV defends Ted Cruz? ...Why is there only 1 picture of the accuser? ...Porney Daniels attorney gets hoaxed? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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That sounds peaceful and nice, doesn't it?
that was Washington DC, Antifa,
Arrassing Ted Cruz and his wife
as they tried to have just a date night
in an upscale D.C. restaurant.
The group followed Cruz into the building,
surrounded them, yelled in their faces,
and even surrounded their table.
Antifa filmed the entire thing,
as one of their members,
badgered Senator Cruz with a barrage
of ridiculous questions about Brett Kavanaugh.
The couple eventually had to flee the restaurant.
what are we turning into America?
Antifa was very proud of themselves.
They, of course, took to Twitter,
claiming the entire operation in a long tweet thread,
which included the video of the entire event.
It concluded with this, quote,
this is a message to Ted Cruz, Brett Kavanaugh, Donald Trump,
and the rest of the racist, sexist, transphobic,
and homophobic right-wing scum.
You are not safe.
We will find you.
So now let me recap here for a minute. Antifa, tracked down a public figure in a public place,
harassed him, yelled at both Cruz and his wife, then used the Twitter platform to make it go viral
and added a threat to boot. Now we've been asking Twitter to show us some sort of standard that users
can look to so we know what is or isn't suspendable or banable offense on their platform. It appeared we
finally got that when they banned Alex Jones. Now, if you remember right, why was Alex Jones banned?
Twitter had claimed that he had engaged and targeted and harassed CNN reporter Oliver Darcy.
They stated, and I quote, tweets designed to threaten, belittle, demean, and silence individuals
have no place on this platform. So here is a serious question.
question for the CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey.
How is what Antifa did to Senator Cruz and his wife any different at all to what you banned
Alex Jones for?
In fact, Alex Jones seems tame in comparison.
They targeted two people at a public space.
They harassed them, belittled, demeaned, and tried to silence them.
They even went a step further and added an actual threat.
This is miles worse than what Alex is.
Alex Jones did to Oliver Darcy.
As of this morning, the Washington, D.C. Antifa Twitter account at Smash Racism, D.C. is still active.
Here's another question.
But this one is to Silicon Valley, or maybe to that young dreamer who's starting a tech company out of their garage.
The free market is ripe to completely dethrone the social media landscape.
found a company on the basis of actual freedom and actual free speech.
It is way past time for Twitter and Facebook to be pushed off of their pedestal.
It's Wednesday, September 26th.
You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.
What does it take to stand up and what is it going to take in the future?
I've told you this for probably 10 years now.
The courage is a muscle.
and you have to exercise that muscle, otherwise it will atrophy.
And when it comes time to actually use that muscle, you won't be prepared.
You won't be able to do it.
When muscles atrophy, the entire system is knocked out of balance.
The courage that it takes to speak your mind today is pretty heavy.
You'll pay a heavy price to stand up for what you really truly believe.
but it's worth it because in the end the only thing you're going home with is your integrity
that's the only thing that you have that really means anything truly take it from a guy who's
lost everything before your integrity your your ability to recognize the truth the hard
truth and say it first to yourself and to your friends and to your family that's a
rare commodity and it's something that doesn't come without paying a price.
Heaven knows how to attach the proper price to whatever it is, courage, freedom, which go hand in
hand.
The people who are standing up now in Antifa, they're not courageous because they're not
saying anything that they're having to pay for.
They're not going to pay a price.
They're beloved by the media.
They're protected by the media.
They're protected and danced around by anyone in power.
Speaking truth to power, that takes courage.
The power of the patriarchy, it's, there's no power there.
There's no power there.
The power of Washington?
There's no power.
The power is in the mob now.
The power to destroy somebody.
For the Republicans to stand up against the mob.
Knowing that they all have skeletons in their closet,
knowing that they could easily be smeared next.
Will they stand up?
Basic American principles are at stake.
Decency.
Kindness.
Charity.
honesty, integrity, justice, justice.
Antifa says this is about Brett Kavanaugh, but it's not.
It would have been about something else.
If it wasn't Brett Kavanaugh, it would clearly be about something else.
They don't care.
They're trying to destroy the system.
Ted Cruz is viewed as a guy who wants to, you know, keep the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I know that's crazy and outrageous.
wants to keep them intact.
He won't fold on Kavanaugh unless there's a reason to fold.
But one of those principles that we stand up for is innocent until proven guilty.
Since when did we become this nation of witch hunters?
Since when did one person's voice matter more than another voice?
since when have we felt comfortable living in a society that if you can tell a better story,
if you can perform better, if you're in the popular group,
you can destroy somebody else.
Because that's what's happening with Brett Kavanaugh.
I don't know if he's guilty or innocent.
I have no idea if this happened.
I can tell you just looking at the basic facts.
and there's nothing really there to be able to judge it on.
All I have is I have to believe one person over the other.
I don't know either of them.
How could I possibly make that judgment?
If the Republicans, assuming that something new doesn't come out, like, you know, a picture,
or all of a sudden, 40 other witnesses say, oh, I remember I was there,
which would be pretty hard.
they'd have to be cryogenically frozen and dethawed and then I would say oh okay I understand why
you were busy that's why you didn't step up earlier I can't imagine what it would be but unless
new information and pretty really credible information come if the republicans don't confirm him
they lose the house in the Senate because at least half of this country is tired of the
Salem Witch trials. And I'm not convinced that it's all the right that's tired of them.
Because let's be honest with ourselves. If Chuck Schumer, if this was happening with Chuck Schumer,
you'd want this to be true. You'd want it to be true. You'd want to cheer and say he's guilty.
Because it would remove him and you see him and I see him as an obstacle to the things that I think are
right. So you'd want to believe that. The question is,
Would we? Would we fight just as hard for the innocent, until proven guilty concept if it was on the other side?
I would hope the answer is yes, we would. I'm not sure of that. But I think it is with a lot of people in America.
I think it is yes. And those are the people who are tired. And those are the people looking for somebody to stand up against this.
This is already in our colleges and it's coming to your office soon.
The Gulag Archipelago is a very famous book about what happened in communist Russia and the Soviet Union.
And I was struck at the very beginning of it.
It talks about how people never spoke up.
They never spoke up.
They were taken to the Gulag in the middle of the night.
No charges, nothing.
but they never spoke up.
And there's a couple of reasons for it.
One, even in the Soviet Union,
they expected to be exonerated.
They expected that they would be taken.
And this was some mistake.
It's not me.
I didn't do anything.
It's not me.
And so they didn't kick and scream.
They went quietly.
It was only until, you know,
they saw the show trial where they weren't even allowed to defend themselves.
Some charges were made by some people that they don't even know.
They may not even have known the charges.
They're in jail.
There was no innocence until proven guilty.
But the people didn't stand up for two reasons.
One, they thought it would be fair.
They thought that truth would somehow or another.
veil. But there was another reason, because they had been beaten down so much. They had the fight
knocked out of them. They knew no one would rise to the occasion and to their side, because
they had allowed things to go so long, so far, that they knew no one would come to their rescue.
Now, we're Americans. It's time now for us as Americans to decide who we are, what we believe,
and if we're going to allow this kind of bullying to go on?
Or are we at least going to take the step and tweet to Jack?
I'm a user of yours.
Like Twitter, can't figure out your policy.
Can you tell me why Antifa, Washington, D.C. is still on today.
Can you tell me doesn't this violate everything you said you saw,
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But towards the end, he asked me, what is greatness?
What makes greatness?
And to me, it is courage.
And I want to play just a little bit of it.
This podcast just came out, Lewis Howes and School of Greatness.
Here's how I answered that question.
My son was probably 10.
He was taking cry.
a taekwondo.
He corrects me.
And he didn't realize that when he was going to get his first belt,
that there were going to be parents there, that they were going to be crowd.
Here's my son who's grown up around me.
He's terrified of crowds, okay?
Probably for a good reason.
He's terrified of crowds at this time.
And we start walking in and he sees people.
He's like, I'm not doing this, dad.
I can't do this. I can't do this.
And it was the first time I saw my son like that.
And I said, son, it's no big deal.
It's no big deal.
It's just parents.
He's like, I can't do this.
I said, okay, let's get in the car.
So we get in the car and we're driving back.
And I'm thinking, how am I going to teach him?
He said, are you mad?
I said, no, I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm just trying to figure out how I can help you.
Get back to the house.
I take him into my office.
And in my office, I have, you have to come to my house sometime.
Yeah, I love to.
All over my walls in the office, it's kind of, it's laid.
The pictures and the things are all just layered on top of each other.
And they're all people from history and moments and, you know, anywhere from one of the guys who was the guy in Vietnam that was in the Hanoi Hilton who blinked his eyes to say, I've got the stuff he wrote all framed in there next to Winston Churchill, next to Gandhi and Rosa Parks and all of them.
And I sat there and I'm trying to think, what do I say to my son?
And I look up at all these people and I said, why do I have all of these pictures and all of these items from history on my walls in my office?
And he said, because they're all heroes.
And I said, yeah, they are.
But that's now why I have them.
And he said, because they weren't afraid.
And I said, oh, son.
And I started with Wallenberg, Raulenberg, who is one of the greatest heroes in history.
And I said, I'm guessing he was terrified.
I'm guessing, and I know enough because I've read his own words,
I know that Winston Churchill was terrified.
I know that George Washington was terrified.
I know the guy who was having his arms pulled out of his sockets in a Vietnamese prison camp was terrified.
That's a great man.
Exercise, exercise, and become great.
Little steps of courage will make you a great man or a great woman.
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Let's go to Chuck in Ohio.
Hello, Chuck.
You're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hi.
Hey, Glenn, I've got a concern.
Here's my concern.
I have family members who don't even know who Blasey is.
Seriously.
I've got family members that after everything you see going on, they'll vote Democrat no matter what.
And actually, I got some family members think Kevin was guilty.
And I forgot what the number was, but there's a percentage of Americans
who don't even know who the vice president is.
That's a good number.
Okay, people don't care.
Honestly, six months after 9-1-1, everyone went back to their business and no one cared.
Yep.
We've got a generation that doesn't care.
Wait, wait, wait.
Which generation is that?
Honestly, I'm a 56-year-old man, and my wife doesn't even, never even heard of Blahy.
Okay.
She never even heard of it.
Like, who's that.
So there's something wrong.
in America, there's something wrong where we're something like this where Ted Cruz can go with his wife to a restaurant and cannot sit down and eat. There's something wrong with that. Yes. And nobody cares. Well, it is human nature to not care. And that's one of the reasons why everything is being made about politics now, because that is easy to get away with because people just don't pay attention to politics. But it is, it's the culture that is
leading our politics to that destination.
Have you talked to your family members about Kavanaugh and how does that work out?
My friend, I've got relatives right now.
We cannot speak because they think Hillary Clinton got robbed.
Well, calling her Hillary probably doesn't help the argument.
Hillary is.
We can't even speak because they think Hillary Clinton got robbed.
And you cannot talk to them.
They shout at you, they yell at you, I get cussed at.
Yeah.
I mean, anger literally, and I ask them, why are you so angry?
You've got cell phones, you've got Walmart, you've got stuff I never had.
Why are you people so angry?
They don't know.
They can't tell you why.
They've got an economy that's booming.
They've got a record low unemployment, but they're all mad.
Everybody's mad at something.
Does it sound at all familiar to you, this argument that you're making, that they made to us while we were in the Tea Party under Obama?
Do you remember them saying that to us?
Look, we've got health care now.
We've got all these.
Pardon me?
We didn't burn down cars.
We didn't burn down people.
Yes, I know.
We didn't hurt people.
I know.
They're hurting people.
I know.
They're destroying property.
So here's.
sister why is my sister you really think when Obama was spewing his
lives and fanning that fire on police officers that it was okay for those
people in LA to tear those businesses down and and and burn those police she
said they probably deserved it that's the mindset they what do you mean
they probably deserved it it's kind of like this Kavanaugh probably did it so
automatically he's guilty well so here's the here's the
problem and it is with social justice and uh if you remember when i first started taking on social justice
how hard the left put punched back uh i mean i can remember the first punch came in do you remember
pat we were we were on the air together in new york and the first punches started to come in over
social justice and i was like whoa we have hit a nerve social justice is what allows people to
say like your sister just did um that you know he
probably did it so who cares here's what I recommend you do first of all go out and buy my new
book on page 218 page 218 to 19 chapter 25 how to think not what to think and in it it lays out
all of the things that you need to look out for and need to be aware of all the little tricks that
anybody will play who's trying to steer you away from facts. And it can happen on either side.
This is not a partisan issue. This is something that everyone should know. And it's how to argue.
It's how to listen to somebody else. And it's also how to watch your language when, when, and I'm sure, Chuck, that you didn't say it this way to your, your sister.
But when you said to me, you know, when Obama is spewing his lies, do you think,
they automatically put shields up.
Now, I want you to know that you cannot deal with people who are so far over the edge
that they just don't want to listen to any reason.
But there are those that you could sit down with and say, okay, on the Kavanaugh thing,
can we just talk about this?
And let's all try to remember we're family, whether we're legitimately blood relatives
or we're just the family of man and Americans.
let's just sit down and remember that for a second.
So if you have a team jersey and you're just going to play for your team no matter what,
you got to leave the table.
Now, for anybody who is left, let's define a win.
What is a win?
Right now, people will say that Kavanaugh isn't in or Kavanaugh is in.
That's not a win. That's not a win.
A win is that we have principles that we all.
want to live under protected, that we take accusers seriously, and then we look for evidence
to prove he said, she said, or deny he said, she said. That's what we want. And the reason
why we want that principle is because you could be next. When somebody says to you,
well they probably did it let me just ask you this is in all sincerity is that the standard
you want to live under because someone could accuse you of something and people will say
well she probably did it anyway and if you dismiss this let me take you back to the knee-molar
poem you know first they came for the communist and the capitalist and I said nothing
why did the people back then say nothing?
Because they were not either a capitalist or a communist.
They weren't a Jew.
They weren't a gypsy.
And so they didn't say anything because it's probably, they probably did it.
You know, Hitler is saying that these guys are really trying to tear down the state.
They're probably doing that because it didn't involve them.
But the last line of the poem is, when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me.
They thin the herd first.
So we have to be very, very careful to not frame this as we are trying to get Brett Kavanaugh
to be the Supreme Court justice or not.
Quite frankly, I find this fairly easy with Kavanaugh because Kavanaugh, I don't think,
is a real staunch constitutional conservative.
I have some problems with Kavanaugh.
But he seems qualified.
elections have consequences.
I'm not the one picking the Supreme Court.
I would have picked somebody a little stronger than I think he is.
He might turn out to be great.
He might not.
I don't know.
If I were a senator, I'd be voting for him.
Even though I think we could have done better, I'd vote for him.
Okay.
What are the principles?
It's not about Kavanaugh.
It's not even about her.
The principles are, will we take,
accusations
seriously. Yes.
Then will we look for the evidence to prove or deny?
I'm going to take a quick break and I'm going to come back with
how shoddy the evidence is. Because if you could sit down with your family
and say, okay, here's the win.
Something that we all want applied to us equally.
Social justice will allow you to say, well, he probably
did it and if he didn't do it, somebody like him did it. And if it didn't happen to her,
it happened to somebody like her, so it all balances out. That's social justice. We want
actual justice. We'll never going to be able to complete it 100%. Only God can give real justice.
We have to do our best. And to do our best, we have to stop making it justice is blind.
stop making it about the personalities and the political teams,
especially when politics are involved.
If politics are involved, go even slower.
But we take them seriously and then we look for the evidence based on the facts.
So based on what we have today, how does this shape up?
I'll go over those when we come back.
By the way, coming up in a few minutes, Michael Rectinwald, he is a former New York
New York University, NYU professor
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There's a couple of things.
If we say, okay, what's a win?
A win is that we have the principles that we all want to live under, that we take
accuser seriously, but then we look at the facts and we look for evidence to prove or
deny.
Let's just go over some of these that she has alleged, that Ford has alleged.
She can't recall the basic details of what she said is the most traumatic event in her
life.
She can't remember where the assault took place.
she's not sure what house it was at, what street it was on, when it happened.
She wasn't sure of the year, let alone the day and the month.
She wasn't certain how old she was, what grade she was in.
She described having just one beer at the party.
So, I don't know, was she drunk?
Because I've also read that she said she was drunk.
She also doesn't even remember how she got home.
Pat, how is that possible in a turning point in your life?
In an event that is supposedly so traumatic, and it would be, that's so traumatic and you don't remember any of those details?
That's hard to believe.
She told no one at the time, not even her best friend or her mother, and no one can corroborate this.
Four people she identified as being at the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering.
in question, including her lifelong friend who says, I don't recall any of this.
Her own immediate family doesn't appear to be backing her up.
Her mother, her father, and her two siblings are all conspicuously absent from a letter
of support, released by a dozen relatives, mostly on her husband's side of the family.
Now, wow.
Why wouldn't her parents and her siblings sign this?
It's not.
Is it possibly because they never.
heard of such an incident happening in her life?
Maybe. Maybe, but that, just that evidence, that doesn't mean anything either.
I don't know that it doesn't mean anything. It's not conclusive.
Correct. You don't condemn her, nor do you condemn him. It's the same kind of evidence.
It's the same kind of evidence. She is a Democrat, an anti-Trump marcher. So we know that
politics are involved.
Also, there is this.
The Washington Post reported that she was upset when Trump won in 2016 because Kavanaugh was
mentioned as a Supreme Court pick.
Problem with that, Pat?
Well, did she say it to somebody?
She said in the Washington Post, she said to the post, she said to the post, she was upset when
Trump won in 2016 because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a Supreme Court pick.
Kavanaugh was not mentioned in that first round.
He was added to the list.
What?
Kavanaugh was not on that.
Yes, Kavanaugh was not on that list.
He was added to that list in November of 2017, a full year later.
Wow.
I mean, wow.
You know, there's enough to say, wait, wait, let's not hang a man here.
Let's listen to voices and then let the evidence speak for itself.
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It looks like he's an atheist, perhaps, extremely liberal.
Communist.
Communist?
Yeah, not extremely liberal.
Communist.
Yeah.
He was a professor at NYU.
Another sign of communism?
I mean, it's quite amazing.
He described himself in the past as a libertarian communist, which I ask him about in the podcast.
But I want to show you the results of this podcast came out last Saturday.
And I've been seeing a ton of these letters have come in.
Glenn, while listening to Saturday's podcast, I wept.
I knew what your guest said.
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Michael, how are you, sir?
I'm very good, Glenn.
How are you doing?
I'm great.
I really enjoyed meeting you and talking to you.
Tell me quickly for those who don't know your journey.
Tell quickly that story.
Okay, yes.
You know, as you said, Glenn,
I was a left or libertarian communist,
published widely in communist circles,
read very widely, looked up to as a kind of an example for, you know, what Marxism or communism could be.
And then I came out against the social justice movement back in 2016 in October.
And I was roundly attacked by thousands of people on the Internet and hundreds of people inside of my university,
put on paid leave, quickly damned by a group calling themselves the diversity, equity and inclusion group.
and the scales just fell from my eyes, Glenn.
Basically what happened.
I started seeing the left for what it really is,
and it's just scratched the veneer,
the thin veneer of egalitarianism and so forth.
What you come up with is a totalitarian left.
You told me in the podcast,
and I'm paraphrasing here,
so let me get your words,
but you told me that at one point,
when you saw what was being done,
you know, libertarian communism was more of a theory
that it was like next time we'll do it right.
And you realized at one point,
these people will kill people.
What we're doing is we're going to do it wrong again,
and these people, it'll end up in gulags and mass slaughter.
That's right.
I mean, I saw firsthand what communists say to each other
in joking and passing, and they relish the idea, Glenn.
They relish the idea of putting a gun to somebody's
head that they don't agree with. They talk about it in joking all the time, and I was actually
threatened with the same. If I had my way, quote unquote, I would put a gun to your head in things
like that. So the minute I crossed these people, I saw what they were made of, and it scared the
living, damn, living hell out of me, Glenn. I mean, it was very terrifying, and it just turned my eyes
and turned me around entirely. Tell me about the thing that I laughed at, and you said was the
beginning of this journey,
the,
you know,
genders that you had to be called.
And you posted,
you posted on your Twitter without comment,
and this is what started the ball rolling.
Yes.
You know,
back in September of 2016,
which I call the debuting
of social justice ideology
in the university
for a number of reasons.
A student at the University of Michigan
when asked what his
pronoun choice would be, and given the option to post it inside of his profile in the Wolverine
system there, chose, quote, unquote, his majesty. And I thought it was hilarious, a fend-up of the
craziness and the attempt of these institutions to keep pace with the pronoun and proliferation, as I
call it, pronoun and gender proliferation. And so I posted the article without a comment to Facebook,
and I went on to teach a couple classes back to back,
and by the time I got done with those classes,
there were thousands and thousands of subthread started condemning me,
calling me a transphobe,
and accusing me of having committed discursive violence
and being a traitor and so on a total.
Discursive violence makes me laugh every time.
Sorry about that.
I know you have a cold.
discursive violence, which is a crazy term, but it's probably too much to get into now,
but and hundreds of direct messages from former friends telling me that I better recant or else
and so forth. And I refused. I said, this is completely out of hand. We're talking about
a piece of this is a group of totalitarians dictating everything I can say and do. And I just
would have nothing further to do with it. I started that Twitter hand.
anti-TC NYU prof that very night and started tweeting.
So Michael, your life has completely changed.
You have, you know, all of your friends who you thought were friends are no longer your friends.
What do you do for a living now?
I'm still an NYU professor.
As a matter of fact, instead of getting fired, I think because I stood my ground and I didn't back down and I didn't apologize because I've done nothing wrong.
I was actually promoted two full ranks.
Wow.
Yes, from assistant to full professor.
Now, my career here is probably limited.
I'm at NYU and I have four years left on a five-year contract
and I see no way of it getting renewed because the same people that would be
sitting on a committee to renew me are the people that shun me 100%.
No.
These are people that...
Go ahead.
Yeah.
These are people that won't get on an elevator with me.
How are you being viewed by the students?
Because you were very popular.
I'm still very popular with students.
And one of the main reasons is they can tell and they know that I'm not there to indoctrinate them into some left-wing ideology, which is so prevalent, it's unspeakable.
I mean, it's just the way things are.
Everybody, for the most part, in the humanities and social sciences, is subtly but ever so clearly indoctrinating students.
to become leftists of some striper and other feminist, Marxists, you name it.
But for me, I don't do it, and the students love me.
Michael, this is Pat Gray.
What do you recommend to parents who are considering sending their kids out to universities like NYU and Ivy League schools?
He addresses this in the podcast.
Wait for the answer.
This is great.
I'd say I'd start thinking about this at kindergarten, actually.
Don't wait until they're ready to go to university.
The indoctrination is happening at K through 12.
And this may even be taking place at pre-K for all we know.
But there are cases in which students in kindergarten are being set up for transitioning to another gender.
And there are parties for these transitions going on in kindergarten.
There was a case of this in August in California, where a student came home and told
their mother or father that they had, one of their friends had a transition party, which is a
party to celebrate the transitioning from one gender to another. I have nothing against
trans people, but what I'm trying to say here is that transgenderism is an ideology that's being
foisted on us. It's being actively promoted, and it's starting at the very youngest ages.
And so, you know, university level is far too late. We have to start at pre-K, probably.
So, Michael, you're a guy who you believed in Marxism, communism, but it was the heart part that you connected to.
That's right.
Is that right?
Yes, I mean, I was, you know, I had ideals about, you know, helping the downtrodden and helping those who have less and, you know, ameliorating the suffering of millions of people.
And I thought this was the best way to go about it because it would equalize, you know, access to resources and so forth.
But I realized that as a matter of fact, it never does.
And any attempt to promote a sort of de facto equality ends in horror every single time, as we've seen historically.
And for some reason, I couldn't see this when I was under this ideology.
I couldn't see it.
And it took this turn, you know, and these scales falling off my.
eyes for me to be able to see what was so evident to other people, you know, particularly on the
other side. And, uh, and once I saw it, I started to research it and I got into the history of
communism and I read the black book of communism. And it makes it very clear that 94 million people
have been killed in communist regimes. People have been killed by every single communist leader
that's ever existed. So, I mean, I just don't know how I can explain how, how, you know,
You know, you get indoctrinated through the university system and how difficult it is to break that indoctrination, but I did break it.
It was broken for me, I should say, and everything has changed.
Michael, the name of the book, Springtime for Snowflakes, obviously the tip of the hat to Mel Brooks.
Why did you choose that name?
It just came to me one day, Glenn.
I don't know really when or how, but all of a sudden it came, it just popped into my mind, and I said, well, springtime for snowflakes.
And it just occurred to me.
I have no idea when, how, or, you know, this took place, but it did.
It just jumped into my mind, springtime for snowflakes.
And I told other people, and they said, that's a great title.
That is a great title.
Some people tried to dissuade me from using it saying it was insulting our students,
but I don't think so because I'm not really insulting students here.
I'm talking about the indoctrinators, not the students as such.
Michael, the
The transition that you have made
Pat just said,
what was the book that you just had brought up off air
that he wrote?
Something about atheists or agnostics.
19th century British secularism.
Yes, that's what we all.
So you were a guy that was agnostic or atheist?
Agnostic.
What happened?
I would never.
Well, I know I would, first of all, just about agnosticism, it just means I don't know,
and I would never have been so conceited and so, you know, arrogant as to suggest there's no God without, you know, proof.
Because, I mean, you have to be God to say there's no God.
I mean, really, that's what it comes down to.
Yeah.
And therefore, therefore, you know, it's impossible.
So I was always agnostic.
I was kind of an agnostic who prayed, though.
I didn't know more yet, but I still prayed.
And, you know, that's entirely changed.
I have, with this whole, you know, say this whole conversion, I really, to put it in, there's no better term for it.
I've really come to see that, you know, I'm not, I'm not an agnostic who prays.
I'm a believer who prays at this point.
And I think that'll continue to grow.
Hang on just a second longer, because I'd like to turn our conversations, Michael, to what people do.
We just had a call from somebody who said, I can't talk to any of my friends.
I can't talk to my family, even about this, this Kavanaugh thing because they're just, they're just angry and they just yell.
And we talked a little bit about this, the principles and addicted to outrage.
And I'd like to hear your view of what we talked about on how to approach people and who to approach to be able to start to have a better dialogue.
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Okay.
So let's talk about how do we deal with, how do we deal with people that are not seeing this?
And I think there's two groups.
One, the people who know exactly what it is and they're knowingly engaging in postmodernism and as you say, which has now become social justice.
And then there's those who just are kind of going along and don't really understand.
stand. Yes, I mean, I think that you put it in a football terms, using a football metaphor. We're
standing, let's say, at the 50-yard line, and we're looking at people along a spectrum left and
right, and we see that, you know, all the way down at the three-yard line is standing, you know, on the
left side is Antifa, and we certainly aren't going to be approaching them. You know, and on the far
right, there might be some unsavory characters like the alt-right that we certainly won't be
trying to include in our quorum. But we need to try to build some conditions.
consensus here by addressing these issues straightforwardly and also to try to educate ourselves
and enoculate ourselves against this postmodern virus, I'd say. It's really what it is.
It's a virus that has transmuted into social justice that is affecting all of us. It's infiltrated
almost every institution from Facebook to Twitter to Google to YouTube to, you know, most of
corporate America.
and most of the mainstream media and a lot of other areas.
So we're talking about a very virulent strain of postmodernism
that is really broadly infecting the entire population.
So how do we deal with it?
We have to first recognize it.
We have to find out where it's coming from and what their principles are.
Then we can rationally oppose them.
We have to do that with rational thinking,
but also with faith knowing that we're right,
because this is not a happy circumstance.
it we're talking about. They want to destabilize the family. They want to destabilize all the ontology
society. That is all the structures that keep us intact, that keep some adherence, some adhesion,
some sort of, you know, order instead of utter chaos. So this is really what we're up against.
I think we need to start talking about it. We need to educate ourselves. We need to inoculate ourselves.
We need to also take very close attention to what's happening to our children and our grandchildren in school.
you know, watch out for the language.
Look at the books, look at our two books,
and see the kind of terminology that these students are going to be coming home with.
Do you agree with it? Go ahead, Michael.
No, yeah, that's fine.
Pay close attention to their utterances.
Do you agree with my thesis that if we don't understand what we're fighting against
and we fight it with outrage and anger,
that we're actually only making the problem worse?
Absolutely.
We're just fanning the flames.
That's all we're actually throwing alcohol or throwing gasoline on the flames really is what we're doing.
It's just fanning the flames and building the other side's outrage as well.
So we just have two outrage groups and it's just a matter of who's, you know, going to carry the day,
but that's not the way to go about it at all.
We'd fan the flames by feeding into it.
It's kind of like a reciprocal process by which one side's outrage feeds the others.
it's a kind of back and forth, you know, sort of a dialectic, as I would put it, between these two groups.
And that's not what we want to do.
We want to understand and articulate.
We need to ask questions of the other side, those who are rational enough to actually listen to us.
We need to sort of diffuse the situation, first and foremost.
And how do we deal with being shouted down all the time, being called racist, being called homophobes, transphobes, all of the things that we have to deal?
deal with being called when we when we try to educate people on what's going on try to answer that in
30 seconds michael yeah that's a tough one and we really need to keep talking we need to point out
this this this left this illiberal left is what i call them they are shutting down our you know
they're shutting down speech but they're also shutting down thought they're shutting down different
perspectives and they're making it impossible for people from other perspectives to voice
anything but then their ideas however outlandish they are succeed regardless of
guardless.
Michael,
you need to stop that.
Michael,
thank you so much.
Anti-PC NYU
Prof is where you can
follow him.
Michael Rectinwald,
the name of the book,
Springtime for Snowflakes.
Also,
episode number three of the podcast.
You can find it where
podcasts are done.
The Glenn Beck podcast,
Mercury.
Number three.
Welcome to the program.
See if you can go find him now.
See if we can bring him in.
We have one of the writers
for the Blaze.
Just did a story on the New York Times
that I really want him to tell
in his own words.
It's,
It's really quite incredible.
It's on a Kavanaugh story out of the New York Times that they changed and then said,
no, it didn't change it.
Well, the Internet just doesn't go away.
I mean, you could change it.
And it was two days ago.
Yeah.
We saw it two days ago with her own eyes.
Yeah.
It's not like it's, you know, oh, in 1840, we never said it.
No, it's right here.
Anyway, we'll talk to him here in a second.
I just got an email in from somebody.
Glenn, I listened to you on the Ben Shapiro Sunday special this last
weekend. I want to thank you sharing your experience with addiction. It really resonated with me as I've
been struggling with the question of whether I'm an alcoholic over the last few months. Your story seems
to be very similar to what I'm going through. This seems so obvious to me now. It didn't
when I first started. When I was going through alcoholism, I didn't even understand, I didn't
even understand this concept. Now I do. When I went to my first AA meeting,
and I said, I'm not sure if I am an alcoholic.
There was kind of a laughter in the room because then why do you think you should be going
to an AA meeting?
Yeah.
You know, if you're questioning, pretty good.
For instance, Pat.
The theory kind of is if you're wondering.
Yeah.
That means you are.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean, have you ever wondered if you're an alcoholic?
Not, not ever.
No.
My wife has never wondered if she was an alcoholic.
I mean, I know a lot of people who drink, they don't consider.
They don't wonder.
They don't wonder.
Why don't you start wondering?
You're kind of, yeah.
Anyway, I come from a long line of raging alcoholics whose lives and families have been deeply affected by alcoholism.
I've seen the very dark and public destruction of addiction.
And because I seem to have been able to keep it together and no one seemed to notice my drinking problem, I thought maybe I wasn't addicted.
I thought maybe this was a normal relationship with alcohol.
Brother, can I?
Oh, yeah.
I have been there.
after hearing your story, I decided I'm going to talk to somebody and find a support group.
Because a lot of people probably wouldn't know.
I mean, some alcoholics are not functional.
You were completely functional.
Yeah.
You showed up for work every day sober.
Yeah.
Never drink at work.
No.
You know, waited until 5 o'clock to start your drinking process.
And then isolated myself.
So, you know, but I was a high functioning, high functioning alcoholic.
Please, if you know somebody in that state, there's a couple of podcasts that I've done,
for the book, Addicted to Outrage, which is not about this, but it is about our addiction to other things.
So it does have some addiction talk in it.
But there's a podcast that I did with Ben Shapiro, his Sunday special last Sunday.
Also, a new one that came out today, the School of Greatness, with Lewis Howes, which is, I think, really, really good.
And it goes into some things surprisingly.
I think it was because I had three hours sleep in 48 hours.
that I opened up about my dad a little bit more than I ever have.
And so you might find some interesting things there or some,
possibly some roads to healing yourself on things.
Strangely, we didn't talk about the book, Addicted Outrage,
which is kind of the point that I was there for.
But anyway.
Anyway.
So there is a story on the Blaze today.
And Mike is here to talk about it.
Mike, how do you say your last name?
Chandoah.
Okay.
So we were pretty close.
Mike, you wrote a story about the New York Times and how they have tried to deny things and make the Internet a liar.
You know, it's funny with something, a publication like the New York Times, you'd think they'd realize how the Internet works.
The Internet is forever.
If something has ever been on the Internet, there's still a way to access it somewhere on the Internet.
Right.
It's incredible that they denied that it was ever in the story originally.
Right.
And when it was so easily provable.
All right.
So start with the original story.
This story came out about Kavanaugh's accusers.
I think Monday, right?
Right.
Sunday.
Sunday.
Sunday, the New Yorker piece first broke with Ronan Farrow.
And Jane Mayer, I think, was the other person who wrote it.
So that came out.
The same day, the New York Times released their first story.
And in it, they admitted that they had tried to verify the story and could not.
But that in the process of that, they had come across people who remembered the
or the accuser, the second accuser, talking after the incident and saying that she couldn't remember if it was Kavanaugh or not.
They had included that same paragraph in a story on Monday following up.
And then on Monday, they had edited this story and taken that part out because people started using that.
Republicans started using that and being like, hey, this is the New York Times, not a conservative publication.
saying that there's a chance the story might not be true.
We can't verify it.
There are some doubts about it.
It was pretty stunning, I thought, for the New York Times, very honest for the New York Times to come out and say, look, we talked to these people that she said.
They said that she had talked to them and said, I'm not even sure if it was Kavanaugh or not.
And that's one of the reasons why the New York Times added that in.
That's kind of some crucial information.
Right.
It was briefly very good journalism.
Yes.
briefly.
Yes.
And they were apparently ashamed of that because they don't want to do good journalism anymore.
So they took it out and then denied it was ever there.
Right.
Well, that was the craziest part of all this.
So I'm tracking down the different things.
I'm looking at the old versions of the story.
It was substantially changed.
But with no editor's notes saying that anything had been changed, just the same article, same link.
And that is the, that's the amazing thing about it.
They always say this article has been updated at the bottom.
always this article's been updated.
With much less substantial updates than this.
Yeah, sure.
But then the writer of the article had tweeted out that stop saying this article has been edited,
this has never been in there.
And I'm looking at the two versions of the article that I was able to get using
internet archives and going back and pulling the older version.
And I see the one and I see the other and I clearly see that it's been removed.
I make sure, read it a couple times, make sure, am I missing?
Did they just break it up and put in another paragraph or something?
No, this is clearly out.
And she's still tweeting that her article that she wrote had never mentioned this thing that it clearly had.
It's a full paragraph.
Yeah.
Now, has there been any response since this has been revealed and since you've put this out?
and it's, you know, it's starting to go around that, oh, wait, it's called the way back machine.
Yeah, which has to be something New York Times knows about because I assume that their reporters have used it too.
I mean, I've used it dozens of times over the course of my journalistic career, which is much less of a career than the New York Times and their reporters.
But as of now, the last I checked, the New York Times hadn't come out and admitted that they changed it or admitted anything.
which is just, I mean, it's a crazy story, especially in how clearly provable this is.
This isn't something where we're just speculating or assuming.
This is, I have a copy of the old one.
I have a copy of the new one.
The words are clearly here.
They're clearly not here.
There's no, that's, that's, that's as black and white as you're ever going to get.
And what's interesting about the times is they initially kind of held off of the story because there wasn't substantiation.
At least that's what was claimed in the beginning is that they said that there wasn't enough for them to do the story.
Right.
And it's so much so that it hacked off the people who, the New Yorker people, Ronan Farrow, who actually wrote the story.
And he said the only reason they didn't do the story was because she wouldn't talk to them specifically.
He had the exclusive.
And so now it looks like that's even suspect that they were holding off her.
journalistic integrity because they have none and they've just shown that again.
Right.
Yesterday on Morning Joe, the other one, Jane Mayer, who wrote with Ronan Farrow was on.
And Joe Scarborough asked her about it and she was saying, well, I guess the New York Times,
I respect them, but they must not have done their, like she was defending her piece against
the New York Times.
Yeah.
Then the New York Times does their three, or they're 180 and they're like, oh, we're not,
don't use us to attack the New Yorker.
We're all for Ronan Farrow.
We're all for this piece.
Really interesting.
There is a thank you, Mike, for your work.
Great story.
You'll find it on the blaze.
Just go there now and pass it on because I guarantee it's not going to be passed on by the mainstream media.
John Ziegler wrote an op-ed piece on some of this as well.
He talks about how Ronan Farrow and journalism has just jumped the shark here.
He quotes Farrow.
The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation,
and at least two have begun investigating it.
The Democratic Senate office.
is reviewing the allegations believe that they might merit further investigation, end quote.
He writes, this is what's called the news hook. The basis for why an allegation is newsworthy.
The standard here used to be a criminal charge or at least a legitimate lawsuit, but now
of an unnamed partisan political operative with huge self-interest to push a damaging story,
regardless of its truth, simply get information and say it ought to be looked into further.
This now reaches the threshold of publishing and journalism.
or more likely, this is a dangerous new rule only in effect when Democratic senators want more time to torpedo a damaged Republican Supreme Court nominee.
He then goes on and says the New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of the possible involvement in the incident involving Kavanaugh.
The allegation was conveyed to a Democratic senator by civil rights lawyer.
He says, okay, so as I read this, a Democratic lawyer gave the allegation from a Democratic accuser to Democratic senators.
who then leaked the information to a liberal press.
Gee, what could possibly go wrong here?
Quote, she was at first hesitant to speak publicly,
partly because her memories contained gaps
because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident.
Her initial conversations with the New Yorker
was she was elected to characterize Kavanaugh's role
in the alleged incident with certainty, end quote.
He writes, so 35 years after the alleged incident,
one which their accuser admits she was drunk,
sure sounds like she has no clear idea what she really what really did or didn't happen.
This moment when Pharaoh and mayor should have moved on from this story or at least found numerous corroborating witnesses.
Spoiler alert, they have none.
Quote, after six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, he says, wait, what?
35 years after the incident, she can't tell her story.
But 35 years and six days later, after speaking with her Democratic lawyer,
she can suddenly recall the amazing and graphic details.
Ramirez, apparently, this is the first person in history to have a far better memory of something
that supposedly happened 35 years ago while badly drunk after having spoken to somebody who was not there.
She was also parroting the Democratic talking points on the FBI investigation.
It's a really good article and it talks about how journalism is truly dead.
Oh, yeah.
Because none of these things would have been.
acceptable. Well, and
Ronan Farrow was on with George
Stephanopoulos, either yesterday or the day
before defending the peace and
Stephanopoulos asked him point blank,
well, weren't you concerned
about this story because there's
no eyewitnesses? And he
said, no, we corroborated
it with people who know her that said
yeah, they've seen
Kavanaugh drunk as well.
Wait, what? So,
they weren't at the party.
They, they're, so
their third-hand information.
It's called hearsay.
And the only evidence is that he's been drunk before?
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
They, they all, a lot of those same people said, I don't have any knowledge of that,
but she's credible.
Well, wait, that's.
Based on what?
Based on what?
She might be credible on other things, but not necessarily on that.
This used to be called hearsay.
You don't report on hearsay.
You cannot convict on hearsay.
And what hearsay is, is,
I heard someone say that this happened.
How many times do we get ourselves in trouble by saying that?
I don't really know, but this is what I heard.
We'd be out of business if we did it.
Of course.
For the left, it's okay.
Of course.
Don't worry about it.
Yes.
Unfortunately, it's a ticking time bomb that they just keep speeding up.
It's only going to hurt them in the end as long as we refuse to let go of the truth
and the principles that guide us.
every day, and that is guilty until proven innocent.
In the court of public opinion, you don't accept hearsay.
You listen to both sides and see who has any evidence before you destroy somebody's life.
Thanks, Michael.
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I'm going to kind of let Pat take some of the vocal responsibilities here, as my voice is getting weaker and weaker as we go.
You want me to sing?
I do it.
I wouldn't mind.
Yeah, if you sing.
I think you would mind if I start.
Actually, I've heard you sing.
There is something that we should talk about.
Maybe we'll talk about later in the show or on.
tomorrow's broadcast, where blockchain is now being used for voting.
Where is it? West Virginia.
Yeah, first time ever.
I'm not, if, I don't know what's on either end, but blockchain, you can't hack into.
So I, I'm comfortable with blockchain.
Again, I don't know how it gets into the system and what the system is on either end.
It opens it up.
But, uh, this is going to make voting a lot easier.
A lot.
If you can vote on your phone, how many people, it opens up the whole,
millennial world, doesn't it?
It means people who are watching Ellen for their news, they're voting.
They're voting.
That's not a good thing.
It's not a good thing.
Well, I mean, our founders said it was landowners that could vote.
Yeah, because they wanted you to have skin in the game.
And people who don't have any skin in the game, they don't make enough to be taxed even.
They're not paying taxes.
They're getting money back.
Do they have skin in the game?
that's something that
our founders thought about, but we don't.
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syndicated columnist and senior fellow
at the Ethics and Public Policy Center
joining us. Mona, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Thanks. So glad to be here.
You, just to refresh people's memory,
you were
the person who,
who kind of challenged everybody at the CPAC meeting.
Was that just this year?
Just this last CPAC, wasn't it?
It was in February, that's right.
It's really easy to go into a scene like that
and say everything they want to hear.
We love Trump.
This is great.
The Republicans are fun and fantastic
and doing a wonderful job.
You went a different direction
and told them they were hypocrites,
in part, among other things.
And they didn't seem to appreciate that, did they?
What kind of feedback did you get during and after CPAC?
Right.
So, look, it's always easy, as we're now seeing in the Kavanaugh situation,
to tell your own side exactly what it wants to hear.
And so I chose that moment to say, look, you know, we can't be hypocrites about these issues of, you know,
respecting women and so forth. And so I was, you know, it was at that moment that the Roy Moore
controversy was that it's full boil. And I mentioned that the Republican Party had endorsed Roy Moore
following the president's lead had endorsed Roy Moore. Here was a credibly accused teenager,
a man who dated teenagers and arguably molested young teenagers when he was in his 30s. That's just
not acceptable. And people on our side chose not to believe it or chose to overlook it or
chose to just, you know, just bat it away. But you can't do that, it was what I was saying.
And I was also critical of other aspects of our side. But, you know, it's just so rare in
America today for anybody to be able to say, I have an open mind about accusations against
somebody and I will wait for the evidence. I mean, this week,
has just been such a nervous breakdown.
What the left has done regarding Kavanaugh is just assume that he's guilty based on
allegations alone without evidence.
I mean, without more evidence, let's put it that way.
Yeah, and they seem to be rationalizing it in that this is not a criminal trial.
So there's no presumption of innocence.
Well, that, I don't, I don't buy into that because you can't just change every rule.
because it's not a criminal hearing?
No, in fact, you know, let's bear in mind that what we're saying then,
if you say, well, you know, it's not a criminal trial,
it's just a job interview, and therefore, you know, you can engage in full-bore character
assassination and pay no price for it, is that the kind of society we want to live in
where a mere accusation unsupported by convincing evidence will be enough to complete,
completely destroy a person's reputation. I mean, you know, people used to fight duels over their
reputations. Reputation is still an incredibly important thing. I mean, imagine if you've
spent a lifetime, you know, trying to live an upright life and people regard you with respect
and in the Kavanaugh's case, you're a federal judge, and suddenly the whole world thinks of you
as a would-be rapist.
Yeah.
It's just, you know,
it will destroy his life.
It's despicable.
And the sad fact
of this Me Too hysteria,
and nobody wants
women to be abused
or harassed
or mistreated in any way.
But on the other hand,
you can't just start destroying
everybody in their career
just on an allegation,
right? And we're into dangerous
territory here.
Correct.
And, you know, what, first of all, so what a lot of the feminists and the Democrats are saying is
we have to believe women because in the past, women were not believed.
Well, it's a little more complicated than that.
I mean, yes, it is true that in the past, sometimes women perhaps were not believed.
But first of all, we do know.
that false accusations of rape have been made by women.
Women do sometimes lie about rape and with terrible consequences, right?
I mean, if you remember the Tijuana Brawley episode a few years back,
which brought Reverend Al Sharpton to fame,
what did he do?
He presented this teenage girl who claimed that she had been raped and abused by four New York City cops.
And that turned out not to be true.
There have been many, many cases where women have alleged things,
that haven't been true.
The other instance that comes to mind more recently was a rape on campus,
the Rolling Stone story, in which a student alleged that she had been gangraped at a fraternity
at the University of Virginia.
And, you know, everybody's stereotypes were rolled out.
They said, oh, these frat boys, you know, that's just the kind of thing one would expect
from them.
The same sort of thing happened at Duke where an exotic dancer or a stripper or whatever
claim that the lacrosse team had had raped her.
So it's not unheard of for women to make false accusations.
That's the first thing we have to understand.
And the consequence of a rape conviction or a sexual assault conviction or even a belief
that somebody committed that crime are so severe that, of course, we should guard against,
you know, flimsy or unproven accusations because the consequences are so dire for the
person who is accused.
But the other thing we have to realize as grownups is, look, in most instances of
sexual assault, there are only two witnesses.
It does not happen for the most part in a public place.
And because of that, of course, it is hard to parse what really happened.
It is he said, she said.
And so we do look for other forms of corroboration.
And those include whether the woman sought medical care right away, did she tell other people at the time, you know, did anybody see them together and so on.
And then also you look for patterns of behavior.
So in the Me Too movement, which I think broadly supportive of, you know, I think that men who abuse women should be held to account and they should be shamed and punished.
And but what's notable in the most high-profile cases that we've seen over the past year or so is that there are patterns of behavior.
That these men, when they behave this way toward women, it's not just one woman, it's a whole bunch of women who come forward and say, yes, me too.
And so now this movement, unfortunately, which was really, I think, a beneficial thing for our society is being,
transformed into a partisan cudgel to go after Kavanaugh.
And these, you know, these supportive statements are just, they don't pass the minimal
standards of evidentiary trustworthiness.
So, for example, the story that the New Yorker ran, which I think is a disgrace to journalism,
the woman in question there was remembering something that happened more than 30 years ago
and was saying that she herself, the person making this accusation,
was so unsure of whether it had been Kavanaugh or not,
that she had to wait six days and consult her memories and consult her lawyer
before she could come forward and say to the New Yorker,
yeah, I think it was him.
Yeah, the last 35 years were it,
were insufficient to consult her memories.
But then the six days were, those were really helpful.
So as we get, as we're on the, just the eve, I guess, of the testimony of this woman before the Senate tomorrow,
if you had to guess, what will be the outcome of this?
Do you see Brett Kavanaugh being confirmed?
Well, first of all, it's still apparently up in the air as to whether the first, whether Christine Lazy Ford will even show up.
People are not sure.
Diane Feinstein recently said she wasn't sure.
So I think if she fails to testify, then there's absolutely no question that he'll be swiftly confirmed.
But, or I shouldn't say no question, but very little doubt in my mind.
if she does testify and is extremely persuasive, then the balance might shift.
It's incredibly high stakes.
But we will see.
By the way, for the sake of our listeners, let's clarify that this accusation is not the one
the New Yorker wrote about.
This is the one that supposedly happened in high school.
And she, too, you know, has said that she, you know, has said that she,
that she did not want to come forward.
She made the accusation in an anonymous fashion,
and then when her name was outed,
she said, yes, she would come forward,
but when the committee approached her and said,
fine, we will hear your testimony in open session,
in closed session.
We can send a group to California to hear your testimony there.
She said no to all these things.
She said she didn't want to fly.
I mean, she seemed to be very squirrely about this.
I don't know.
I mean, it's, it doesn't sound like she even now is really so sure.
We're speaking.
Go ahead.
No, and therefore her case, you know, I think she should be heard.
I think people should make an independent evaluation.
But it does seem odd the way she has behaved.
And of course, we can get into this later.
The Democrats have been appalling in the way they've handled all of this.
We're speaking with syndicated columnist Mona Sharon about the outrage culture.
Last hour, Mona, we were talking with Michael Reckinwald, who also has seen his share of vitriol from the left.
And we were talking about how we can come together in this country and kind of heal the wounds and move.
forward as a civilization.
And I just, we're trying to find our way to getting back to some unity because we're so
divided in this country.
And there's probably groups of people, at least two groups.
The Antifa people are never going to join hands with us.
And on the other side of the spectrum, the alt-right neo-Nazis aren't going to join hands
with us anyway, and we don't want to, frankly.
So how do we find a common ground where we can all come together?
And is it possible to get there and agree on things like capitalism, like the Bill of Rights, like the U.S. Constitution?
Is that doable from where we are now?
Well, we have to pray.
I mean, one of the things that Twitter has done, I think, is amplify and provide an echo chamber for all of our worst impulses and our most divisive voices.
and, you know, people who are on Twitter a lot are the ones who think that we're on the verge of a civil war in this country.
It is incredibly, you know, it's incredibly poisonous.
At the same time, you're so right to raise the question of whether there are any things that unite us now.
Glenn Thrush of the New York Times posted recently, you know, is there any institution or thing about the United States
that we all agree on.
And somebody said, well, maybe the military, but there has to be more than that.
That, as you say, the Bill of Rights, our history of religious tolerance, you know, the Constitution,
the love of liberty, love of human rights, individual dignity, all those things that we have always prided ourselves on.
And look, one of the reasons that I did what I did at CPAC,
And some of the other things that I do is in an effort to say, look, I'm willing to criticize my own side.
Please step up on the other side.
Be willing to be critical of your own side because it has to start there.
And once people then give you credit for a certain amount of fair-mindedness,
that can be the beginning of a conversation.
And some of the conversations that I've had with people who are sort of on the center left
have been very productive in that sense.
But I have to say that this week it's been really tough.
I would love to see, and I haven't,
I would love to see some people on the left saying,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know, let's not railroad, Judge Kavanaugh,
and all men, you know, or men who went to prep school
or so on and so forth,
because we feel so passionately about, you know, abortion.
Let's face it, those are the stakes.
because that's why this thing has become so rancorous.
It's because the stakes are Roeby Wade being overturned.
And the idea on the left seems to be all means fair or foul.
All means have to be employed.
If it means destroying someone's reputation, then that's all right.
And, you know, some of the people on the left don't even realize that people like us are fair-minded
and are just trying to evaluate the evidence dispassionately,
they think, how could you possibly believe Brett Kavanaugh?
It's really difficult to bridge that divide.
Yeah, we are definitely in a tough place right now.
So if people want to have access to your books, your articles,
where would you send them?
So I have a website, monocharon.com.
They can also find me at the Ethics and Public Policy site.
My work is published in National Review online.
It's available lots of other newspapers.
Recently, I'm a syndicated columnist, and one of my, unfortunately, within the past few weeks,
one of my, one of Pap Buchanan's columns was put out under my name.
So I'm getting a lot of mail from people.
Oh, wow.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, so that was funny.
But, yes, and people should go to Amazon.com and check out my new book because it's called Sex Matters,
and it describes how modern feminism got us into a lot of the difficulties we're facing with sexual behavior and sexuality in general and differences between men and women, which they were very keen to deny.
And I think that that will shed some.
light on where we are. It's called Sex Matters, How Modern Feminism, Lost Touch with Science,
Love, and Common Sense. Sounds great. All right. Mona, thank you. Appreciate it.
My pleasure.
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Pat and Jeffie here to finish up the show.
And hopefully he'll be back tomorrow.
Yeah.
He sounds sick.
He does.
And I realize that we all have a problem at looking good, but he did not look well.
I'm glad that he left.
and he needs to get better because he's got the big book tour coming up.
I mean, we have the new book, addicted to outrage, and he's going to be doing the addicted to outrage book tour.
I mean, he's traveling the country.
You can go to a glenbeck.com slash tour and get all the dates.
But, I mean, he's going to be in Dallas on October 7th, Tampa, November 30th, Orlando, December 1st.
He's going to be two or three places here in Texas, San Antonio, Houston, and again here in Dallas on October 27th, as I said.
So addicted to outrage tour is going on.
I think that they're still in talks with adding some more cities, but you can find all of them at glenbeck.com slash tour.
It's going to be fun.
And this isn't a downer tour.
This isn't where Glenn is going around the country preaching about catastrophic failure of the economy.
We're talking about the same Glenn Beck, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Which is amazing.
It's going to be funny.
It's going to be fun and it will be funny.
and I'm begging him not to even say anything about catastrophe.
We'll just avoid all catastrophic talk for a while.
What about the sale of baby body parts or anything?
No, he's no.
You'll save that for the Christmas party.
Okay.
So that'll be fun.
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One of the least funny people in the history of television to me is Stephen Colbert.
He's up there.
Yeah.
Or down there, whatever the case may be.
But last night he was talking about Ted Cruz being accosted at the D.C. restaurant.
Tonight on Meanwhile, Texas Senator Ted Cruz had a rough night.
They're just chanting,
Cruz.
Cruz is close friends with Brett
Kavanaugh and also in a tight Senate race
with Democratic opponent Beddo O'Rourke.
And he...
Why would these people who obviously
probably live in the
Northeast? What do you even care
about Beto O'Rourke? You know nothing
about him? You know what he looks like? Maybe?
Maybe you've heard the name?
Well, I mean, of course you know that he's hotter than
Ted Cruz. Sure, yeah. Dude. Obviously.
Cruz and his wife were heckled
at a D.C. restaurant by protest
last night.
Have a look see.
We believe survivors.
We believe survivors.
We believe survivors.
First of all,
this is not helpful.
Don't do this.
Thank you.
What?
Yeah.
Is that kind of a surprise, right?
They've gone too far on the left,
even for Stephen Colbert.
Maybe you dial this thing back a little bit.
He's afraid we're going to start doing it to him.
He wants to be able to eat by himself.
Well, yeah, it's not going to end with Ted Cruz.
And hopefully he's smart enough to acknowledge that and to realize that.
And to know that that's not an American principle,
trying to keep people out of a dinner date with their wife.
Sorry, you can't be in here.
It's amazing.
That sure is.
You've got to give credit where credit it is due, though, for Colbert to call that out.
Because who else has done that?
Well, I'll tell you one other person, Beto O'Rourke.
actually said much the same thing.
He tweeted out,
it's not right that Senator Cruz and his wife, Heidi,
were surrounded and forced to leave a restaurant last night
because of protesters.
The Cruz family should be treated with respect.
Nice.
It's a class move from Beto.
So to Stephen Colbert and to Beto for at least this,
thank you for that.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Helping to restore a little bit of sanity.
You know, we've been talking with these guests over the last hour about how we come together as an American, as an American people, as a civilization, as a culture.
Well, there you go.
There's two examples of the left kind of reaching out and saying, yeah, okay, that's not cool.
Stop doing that.
Let's start treating people with decency again.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Yeah, it'd be nice.
And look, it never was perfect.
No.
There was always a time when you would say, yeah, you know, I'm trying to think of a good example.
I take my car to get fixed by Fred, who's, you know, he's a little crazy, but he's a good guy and he fixes my car good.
So, you know, I talk to him when he fixes my car and we're good.
In today's world, you know, you can't talk to Fred.
No.
He's crazy.
And we can't talk to him.
Fred might hit you with a lug wrench.
Right.
You all already work on your car at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there's got to be some kind of line of discourse.
because it's definitely gotten worse.
Yes, I agree with that.
I thought it was bad during the Bush selected, not elected thing,
but it's gone so far downhill from that time period.
Oh, yeah.
You can't even recognize that time period from here.
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Let's go to Dave in North Carolina.
Dave, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hi.
I think it's time for the U-2 movement to start.
as a contradiction to the Me Too movement.
I think that there's been so much that's come out of this Brett Kavanaugh hearing and the two accusers.
It's evident that people aren't sharing responsibility for what they do.
The U-2 movement would be sharing responsibility with women who go into motel rooms with men
that no they shouldn't be there.
They get drunk at college parties.
They know they shouldn't do that.
They go into a bedroom and they expect that nothing's going to happen.
and they're the ones that are accusing men of being these vile predators all the time,
all-powerful.
It doesn't matter who you look at.
The Matt Lowercase or anybody else, it's always man as predator, woman is innocent victim,
and they have the right to be heard, but they never share responsibility.
No, and I mean, it's, appreciate the call, Dave.
It's never the woman's fault that they've been abused by a man.
That should just not happen.
But you're right.
I mean, you should be wise enough to know not to put yourself into a compromising prediction or predicament, I guess.
A compromising position, I think is the word I'm actually groping for.
But in the case of, like he mentioned, Matt Lauer, in the case of Matt Lauer, Matt Lauer would,
apparently, according to some of the stories.
What are the reports we saw, yeah.
Invite a woman into his office.
She would come in.
He would lock the door.
He would tell her to bend over and he would go over and pull down her pants or dress or whatever she was wearing.
And apparently nothing was said about that.
According to the woman involved in that particular situation, she didn't say anything because she was worried about the power dynamic.
Right.
Come on.
Well, I mean, we talked about that yesterday, right, about the girl on the airplane with the background.
She was frozen.
She was frozen and too scared.
No.
No, no, I'm not buying it.
And it wasn't her boss.
It wasn't anybody she even knew.
It's a passenger that's sitting next to her on a plane.
You can't say no?
Stop.
I thought about that.
A couple more times yesterday, like, I must, I have to be married to a female that is just different from the rest of them because I know.
I know.
I mean, I get told what the heck do you think you're doing, let alone someone that doesn't even know her.
Well, of course you get told that.
That's what I mean.
You know what I mean?
I mean, come on.
Just because you've got a piece of paper that says you're married doesn't mean she wants anything to do with you.
I've come to realize that.
You know what I mean?
I do.
I do, actually.
Sadly, I do.
So let's not get silly.
Let's keep the discussion within the realm of reality if we could.
I apologize.
John in Arkansas, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Hey, I'm a big fan of you guys.
Thank you guys for all you do.
Thank you.
I've listened to you guys since the early 2000s.
Awesome.
I wanted to find out, are there any other pictures of Christine Ford?
All there is is like sunblasses on her face out in the snow somewhere.
It's true.
I hadn't thought of that.
And when was that picture?
When was that picture taken?
I don't know if she shows up at the hearing.
We'll find out, won't we?
I guess so.
Yeah, if she shows up.
Right.
Yeah.
So what is your theory on that, John?
What's your theory on the one picture situation?
Well, I don't know.
I just was wondering that for the past couple of days.
I was thinking, man, I wonder what she looks like without sunglasses.
Is she a real person?
I mean, because even by the photo that you've got, it hides the part of her eyes.
So, I mean, she could be any blonde in the United States around the world anywhere.
Wow.
How dare you?
I appreciate the call, John.
I don't know.
We'll have to look into that a little bit.
In fact, I'm going to, let's just Google.
I know that there's a bunch of internet pictures of her showing up in other pictures,
like with Hillary and Ouma.
Where it's been Photoshopped or whatever.
I personally, I guess they're photoshopped.
I'm guessing they are.
I don't think she was around all these people.
But it's funny to see.
I just Googled her name and you got the sunglasses picture.
And that's it.
Well, here's one where she's in.
side by side it looks like their
yearbook pictures.
So somebody got a picture of her
apparently from her high school yearbook.
So there's that one and there's
the sunglasses. So there's a little time has
elapsed since a couple of the pictures.
Yeah, I would say. And it's
interesting too that there's still doubt
as to whether or not she's even going to show up and testify.
That hasn't been
definitively decided yet?
It's tomorrow.
She's supposed to testify tomorrow.
And if she doesn't,
I say they hold the vote right then and there.
If she is a no-show, you just call for the vote.
And let's get this thing done.
One way or the other.
Up or down.
Give them the vote.
I mean, that was the big thing that McConnell had said they were going to have the vote on Friday, right?
Yeah.
No matter what.
And that's kind of, they were saying that he, you know, was jumping the gun because we don't know if she's going to testify or not.
I mean, maybe he knows.
She's not going to show up.
Possibly.
We're going to have the vote on Friday.
Let's go.
Derek in Washington.
You're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hi, how are you guys doing today?
Good.
I want to make it quick.
So you guys talked about Bento and Colbert talking about these people need to stop harassed, people like Ted Cruz.
The peers are coming around.
That's a good start in the right direction.
But, I mean, the big thing is we got to get somebody to get that message through to Maxine Waters and some of those others that this is not right.
This is not civil.
And this is not the way government was meant to be.
That will never.
I mean.
I agree.
I agree.
And, you know, some of the Democratic leadership has actually asked her to calm down on that stuff and she's refusing to do it.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
She believes it.
Yeah.
Appreciate the call, Derek.
She believes it.
And if something bad happens, again, from these senators, congressmen, Trump supporters, people in the administration, just supporters of Trump, if something violent happens to one of these people during one of these mob get-togethers, she's partially responsible.
She'll never own up to it, but she is.
No, but she was for sure.
Oh, she absolutely is.
You know, this kind of boasts to why, you know, this action really goes back to one of the reasons
and one of the bigger ones of why Donald Trump got elected president in the first place.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
This action of hatred and we want somebody to fight back.
Yeah.
And that's what got you Donald Trump.
So if you're looking to get rid of Trump, you may try a new direction.
Yeah.
It's not a good way to go about it.
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All right, Pat and Jeffie for the last few minutes of Glenn Show.
Hopefully he'll be back feeling well enough tomorrow to be back again.
Michael Avanotti, the attorney for Stormy Daniels,
has now produced this so-called client of his.
Trying to show that this is not a hoax.
Right.
From Chan 4-Chan or Chan-4, whatever that is.
There was a rumor that maybe somebody hoaxed him on this.
Yes.
So he actually tweeted out a photo of the person involved.
here that claims that Brett Kavanaugh was involved in rape gangs and she was gang raped.
That's her, her claim.
So Avanotti tweeted out the picture of her, Julie Swetnik.
And he said, she is courageous, brave and honest.
We ask that her privacy and that of her family be respected.
You just tweeted out her photo and her name.
You just showed the world who she is and gave them her name.
Only on the internet, though.
Right.
Where does that go?
Like three people see that?
So in his tweet, he writes,
below is my correspondence to Mr. Davis of moments ago,
together with a sworn declaration from my client,
we demand an immediate FBI investigation into the allegations.
under no circumstances should Brett Kavanaugh be confirmed absent a full and complete investigation.
How are you going, what are you going to investigate?
This supposedly happened in 1982.
Wow.
She claims in approximately 1982.
Now, if this really happened to you, wouldn't that be pretty clear?
Wouldn't that be seared into your mind the exact day, the way things smelled, the way things looked?
I mean, it's hard to believe that you wouldn't know exactly, but approximately 1982.
I became the victim of one of these gang or train rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present.
Shortly after the incident, I shared what had transpired with at least two other people.
During the incident, I was incapacitated without my consent and unable to fight off the boys raping me.
I believe I was drugged, using Kwayludes, or something similar, placed in what I was drinking.
Wow.
Now she,
according to this story,
she alleged,
she did not allege that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her,
though.
She was just,
she was present.
Present,
yeah.
But she also says in this,
in this article it talks about her,
um,
uh,
she witnessed efforts by Kavanaugh and Mark Judge to get teenage girls
inebriated and disoriented so they could be gang raped.
So she witnessed this.
And didn't do anything?
Crazy.
This is amazing.
I mean, people who know him and have known him for most of their lives have just said this is completely out of his character.
Based on his interview the other night on Fox News, it certainly doesn't seem possible.
It sure does not.
He seemed credible and believable to me.
But who knows how many more people will jump out of the woodwork to try to stop.
this guy from being confirmed.
Are you going to talk about it more on Pat Gray
Unleashed? It's a good chance that will happen, yes.
So coming up
on this same Blaze Radio and TV network.
Glenn, back. Mercury.
