The Glenn Beck Program - Llamas On A Train? | Guests: Kelly Shackelford & Brad Polumbo | 2/28/19

Episode Date: February 28, 2019

Hour 1 Every 4 or 8 years the Democrats care about the U.S. Constitution? The Democrats HR8 Gun Bill Threatens to turn Gun Owners into Criminals? Naming the Republicans who didn't stick to their guns...? The Left say, they're only 'violating' the Constitution? Stu Masterfully works a R. Kelly Analogy? Glenn prepares for his 12 minutes at CPAC this weekend. Flashback Radio, When Michael Jackson called the Glenn Beck Radio Program? Remembering why we're all glad we don't live in the city of Portland?    Hour 2  Religious fighter, fighting the good fight, Kelly Shackelford joins, to tell us how hateful atheist are offended by a memorial. The 'Bladensburg Memorial' and it's brief history. The Bad Lemon Test on Religion is very dangerous. "When it comes to religious freedom we have five solid Justices"? 'The Politically Homeless Life of a Gay Conservative', with National Reviews Brad Polumbo? LGBT are 'trying to erase' the gay conservative community. Hypocritical Intolerance at it's finest?   Hour 3 Andrew Ross Sorkin, How Credit Cards Are Used to Finance Mass Shootings ...Bank of America and Citigroup credit card Restricting private citizens to purchase fire arms to protect their families? "We are living in surveillancecapitalism times"? HR8 Puff and Stuff? Hate speech transactions and the digital ghetto laws? House pushes through first major gun bill in a generation, backed by Republican, NY-Rep. Peter King? Here come Slave Reparations? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning. The sun's up. The birds are singing. Oh, it's another beautiful day in the neighborhood. Mm. Isn't it? Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:00:11 I mean, you know, if you're, if you're, look, we got another, we have another gun control bill rising. It's great. Yep. By the way, gun control, uh, well, you can control your guns at your own home and your Liberty Safe. Shut up. You can make the decision as to where your guns are instead of the government. Wouldn't that be nice?
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Starting point is 00:01:29 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glymbeck program. I don't know what's more shocking. The Democrats going for gun control or this documentary that says, that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. What? I'm in total shock on both stories. We begin there in one minute.
Starting point is 00:01:57 This is the Glenn Beck program. Stu? Yes, Glenn. Remember the days when I have made a vow to myself. I'm only buying new cars from here on out. New cars? I mean, used cars. So you made a vow to the exact opposite of the thing you said?
Starting point is 00:02:14 Thank you. I'm a Democrat. Okay. There you go. which means I'm not. The, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:22 you, you, you, you, you, you, drive it off the lot. It's like,
Starting point is 00:02:28 it's, it's, it's, it's like a long time, like story that everyone knows. The second you drive off a lot, you waste all this money. And still everybody does it,
Starting point is 00:02:36 or at least tries to do it. Yeah. I mean, it's the better decision to just buy something used, especially when you can actually have it protected. It's not like, it's not like you're buying something and it could break down and you have to deal with all the repairs.
Starting point is 00:02:46 If you have the car shield, option. You don't have to deal with it. You don't have to deal with it at all. It's like, I mean, you, you have, you have, you're covered with everything. And you have the 24, 24, 7 roadside assistance. You get a rental car while yours is being fixed. It's all free. It's just, it just comes with your, your car shield. All you have to do is just go to car shield.com. Car shield.com. You buy a car. It's 5,000 miles, 150,000 miles. You still have that car. I've got a, I've got an old truck. I, right? I, I brought. brought it in and I honestly don't know how much it was. I know it was over $5,000. I think it was like $7,000 to fix this thing. I had no idea when I brought it in. I was just like, yeah, just tune it up, just check it, make sure everything's okay. What?
Starting point is 00:03:33 I didn't even get a call. The Car shield just took care of it. They knew that I had Car shield. Car shield took care of it. They said, when I arrived, hey, there was a problem. I said, oh, geez, what did that cost? And they said, well, it was, I don't know. I don't, 7,000.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And I was still reeling from that when they said, but we contacted Car Shield and we got it all taking care of. It was all covered. That's why I don't remember the number. All I remember is hearing in slow motion, it's all covered, covered, covered, which was fantastic. Call 1,800 Car, 6,000. 1,800, car, 6,000. Use the promo code, Beck. You're going to save 10%, or you can call 1,800, 100, car.
Starting point is 00:04:17 6,000 or go to car shield.com. Either way, use promo code back save 10%. Car shield.com. Boy, it was quite a, it was quite a day yesterday, wasn't it? Quite a day. You had in the house, they were doing the people's work. They were talking to Cohen, who Cohen actually said yesterday, you know, if Donald Trump loses the election in 2020, he's not going to go quietly. are you saying are you saying that the president of the united states will what mount a coup that he won't that he'll barricade himself and order the army to not are you kidding me yeah then that's going to be like praised by the media oh it was all over the media and i pointed this out yesterday uh excuse me media every time some crackpot would say i don't
Starting point is 00:05:21 think he's going to, every time, every journalist said what? On the right, oh, Barack Obama's not going to leave office. Oh, yeah. Every time somebody said that, we and every right-wing host that I know of said, no, he's, he's not going to do that. So are you actually furthering this conspiracy theory? Are you kidding me? Everything they accuse us of, they do. 10 times over.
Starting point is 00:05:52 10 times. It's not an excuse for us to do it if it's something bad, but it is, it's notable. Yeah. It's certainly, it's certainly annoying because every time they give you these big, preachy rants about all the, oh, they care so much and they would never do these things. And the second they have the opportunity to do them, of course, they do. So we did something earlier this week on television. We showed you how the gun grab is actually going to happen.
Starting point is 00:06:18 In fact, I want to review that and go over that later. on in the show today. Oh, sure. But they just voted to pass H.R. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. Now, who's not for this common sense background check for all firearm sales, including all private transactions and purchases made online and at gun shows? Only a federally licensed firearms dealer, importer, or manufacturer are required to conduct background checks on customers right now. Now, the law says that, and I'm quite honestly, I am
Starting point is 00:06:59 okay with this. If I'm gifting a gun to my son, it pisses me off that I would have to do this, but okay, I'll have to do is go to my local gun store and have them do the background check of my son. Okay, but that's not what they're doing. That's not what they're doing. Stu, they respect the Constitution so much. Oh, I know. I mean, they've been, this National Emergency Act, they've been talking Constitution all the time. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Democrats just are so passionate about the Constitution suddenly. Right. So they're never going to grab your guns. No, they know that they'd have to get around the Constitution, and even a national emergency is not going to do that. So what are they doing? If you were sitting here and you're thinking, we got to get rid of guns, but America,
Starting point is 00:07:47 they'll go to war. You try to take their guns. They're going to go to war over that. That is the line of a civil war. It really is. You try to go after people's guns and take them. You're going to have a war on your hands, period. Now, how else could you do it?
Starting point is 00:08:10 How about if we made it illegal to even transfer a gun or sell a gun, unless you went to a dealer, a licensed dealer. Okay, well, that's not so bad because there's lots of licensed dealers. But what if you could convince the banking system to not do transactions or business with gun dealers? What if you could convince them to say, hey, we're not going to do any financial, transactions or carry any notes or loan any money to a gun manufacturer, well, then you didn't have to enact a law. You didn't have to take away anybody's guns.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You're just making it impossible to buy, sell, or transfer a gun. You're just violating the spirit of the Constitution. That's so much better. Oh, man, that's great. probably violating the actual constitution as well. Yeah, no, we did a big segment on that on TV. If you happen to be a subscriber, blazedtiv.com slash Beck. The proper code is Beck.
Starting point is 00:09:26 You can watch that. And it goes into depth on the real, there's several journalists who have taken this on as a sort of personal jihad to to kind of convince these banks to stop allowing any transaction that has to do with firearms. Oh, yeah. I want to say C-SPAN. It's not C-SPAN. It's C-NBC.
Starting point is 00:09:45 CNBC is doing, you know, story after story after story with a journalist who are saying, you know what? Banks, you have a financial responsibility to stop doing business with these kinds of people. And they're doing it. This is our financial freedom is slipping through our fingers. You know, you have to control the media. You have to control the military. You have to control the financial sector. Now, how do you control the financial sector?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Well, you give them money. You rope them in by doing things like tarp, et cetera, et cetera. You regulate the snot out of them. And if you control the media and social media, you convince them that it is in their best interest to stop doing business with people that you say are nefarious. And they're doing it. we are losing voices every single day. We are losing power and position every single day. And they're doing it covertly as they always do.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I am telling you, people are going to wake up in the next five years and they're going to say, when did that change? Right now, it's been changing for 10 years. Right now they are just closing all of these doors. We all know the founders are stupid old people with teeth. that are wooden and hair that's fake. That's, um,
Starting point is 00:11:14 and the hair thing is true, but the teeth is not, but go ahead. But the problem is we've never, we haven't developed our, you know, this, what they did was fine for 1776 and 1791.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Let's think about today. And what I think is, I think we've come to a point and I think we've already partially implemented this plan. But I think we now propose a system of justice in which one person would propose a charge and on, and I would say should be on Twitter. and then whatever charges get the highest amount of retweets,
Starting point is 00:11:45 that means it's a crime. We've kind of seen it with Bill Cosby, right? Like, we've seen it with, there was another one recently that the same sort of thing was. It's kind of happening with R. Kelly. Right? Like, oh, these are, those are good examples. No, no. Well, they committed crimes.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And we were like, shrug the shoulders. Yeah. But then when we got the retweets, then we turned on the justice system. Maybe we wait to activate the justice system, until the retweet number gets to a certain amount. I see what you're saying. I like that. It's the first layer of justice.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yes. Right? Like if someone, if someone... So in other words, a police officer comes to your house and says, hey, there's a body laying there.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And I just found this bloody person holding a knife over the body. They take a picture. A selfie. The police officer should be a selfie. Yeah, yeah. Selfie with the body and the murderer, alleged. And then just says,
Starting point is 00:12:38 crime? Right. And then tweets it out. And then if they get over like 100,000 retweets, maybe you put it on the percentage of population for local crimes. And if it gets to a certain amount of retweets, then we're like, all right, we walk over to the old justice machine and we turn on the switch. Well, okay. So I was going to say we shouldn't probably do it on the first round because sometimes people get it wrong, you know, like they did in Covington. But then we all know that that guy, if he isn't guilty of that, he's guilty of something.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Well, did you see his face? He's got such a punchable face as we've learned. from every blue checkmark on Twitter. But I think this is part of it, Glenn. Part of it is you take people who... It's not about whether they committed the crime or not. R. Kelly and Bill Cosby looks like they definitely did do really terrible things. And the Covington kid didn't.
Starting point is 00:13:25 But there's plenty of retweets. Put them in prison. That is... That's the sort of justice system we need. Look, if people are willing to take their time and invest it in retweeting a possible criminal action... Yeah, you don't just do that without reading or thinking about it. Right. Throw them in prison.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Right. And then at some point, Netflix will release a documentary about their innocence. And when that gets enough retweets, they're freed. I like it. I like it. It's basically automated. Now our founders didn't see that. No, they didn't see Twitter.
Starting point is 00:13:59 No. How about this? A certain amount of tweets just unlocks the door of the cell and they walk out. Like we don't have to have, we don't have to tell them. Like it, like it, like it. That way we can get, that way we can get the capitalists out. of the prison system. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, well, except for Jack, he'll be essentially making all decisions on our justice system. No, but Jack is a Marxist with a monocle. Now, I want you to think about this. Okay. There are, there are Marxists who actually believe it. Okay. But most of the Marxists are the Marxist with the monocle, you know, the Monopoly Guy Monocle, right? Who were like, yeah, I mean, I am selling this.
Starting point is 00:14:40 shirt. So I am making money off of that. I am using the capitalist system, but I'm a Marxist. Well, I think one of the most important things about being a Marxist is to get all the capital from the capitalist so you can do the just things with it. Exactly right. It's a Marxist in a monocle. There you go. And Jack is a Marxist in a monocle. There we go. Right. Here we go. I mean, it's the first break of the show. We've already solved the legal system. What do you want to go next? I've, I, I, you didn't even notice the connection to AOC. She's a Marxist in a monocle as well. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Right? You put in, now you'd have to have a really big, weird, creepy, sized monocle to cover one of her eyes. Oh, yeah. But she's a Marxist in a monocle as well. You'd be using 30% of US glass output to get a monocle over that eye. Corning is like, wait, wait, she needs a monocle? Quick, buy up the rest of the stock.
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Starting point is 00:17:38 So should we, should we name the lawmakers that didn't stick to their guns? The Republicans? Sure. Sounds like fun. Looks like Peter King. Oh, he's terrible. What? Peter King is awful.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Now, if you want someone for good NFL analysis, Peter King is pretty good. It's just a different Peter King. The Peter King that's in Congress sucks. Well, I don't know about that. Breaking news. I don't know about that. So he voted for this disaster of a democratic gun control bill. It was HR 8, by the way, because it's the eight-year anniversary of the Gabby Giffords shooting,
Starting point is 00:18:35 which if you remember correctly, that was the one that Sarah Palin asked people to go commit. She was like, you know what? Hey, go shoot this woman while she's standing at a grocery store. No, as it turns out, it was a psycho that was actually a Democrat, a wild progressive, but I don't even need to point that out because he was crazy. Yeah, I don't even know. Was he even a wild, I just remember his big thing was grammar. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He believed grammar was attacking, like people were using grammar in some way and like some grand conspiracy to attack the planet. He was crazy. Completely nuts. He didn't even know to, he didn't even need to point that out. But we do need to point that out because they blame that on me, on Sarah Palin, on everybody else at the time, the Tea Party. That was a Tea Party shooting.
Starting point is 00:19:20 No, it wasn't. It was targeting. Remember she had a poster There's targeted a district And now of course She is A morphine please Thank you go ahead
Starting point is 00:19:30 She was there As they kind of went through this process with the bill And I believe her husband is now running for something in Arizona So it's become a big A big rallying cry Of course again I don't know I don't know how any of this stuff is constitutional
Starting point is 00:19:46 Especially at the federal level It's a whole other story It's not something that's going to get passed right now obviously the Republican Senate can make sure that that does not happen, at least for the time being. But you want to think if the Democrats do get control of the presidency and they get control of the House and the Senate, which if they win the presidency is most likely. It would be very hard for Republicans to hold the Senate if they lose the presidency. So going into this, if that happens, you will have Democrats in control of everything and the opportunity for them to take the next step in the, sort of Overton window we're going through right now.
Starting point is 00:20:23 First, it was Democrats. Oh, 50, we only need 50 votes for judges. Then Republicans. Oh, we only need 50 votes for Supreme Court justices. And the president has asked it several times for only 50 votes for legislation. Well, you're going to tell me Bernie Sanders isn't going to implement that the second he gets into office or Beto or Rourke or someone else? It's a democracy. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:42 50. That's all we need is 50. And they'll start implementing that stuff quickly. I love this. Majority rules. When? When has America ever stood for the majority. Seriously. I mean, the whole country was created by a minority, right? A minority of crazy people who decided to leave another continent and come here. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And the whole idea is you cannot, the majority cannot oppress the individual. And now we're like, a majority rules. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Not to the expense of the individual. That's the problem. them with socialism. I don't, you know, I don't even know how I'm giving,
Starting point is 00:21:23 I don't know how I'm giving this speech tomorrow. I'm going to talk about socialism. I have so many things to talk about at CPAC. And they were like, okay, everybody gets 12 minutes. And I'm like, 12 minutes. I can't even, I can't even say hello to a crowd in 10 minutes or 12 minutes. True. I've had meetings with you before.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Nothing even. I mean, they don't even start until 25 minutes. No, I mean, you can come to any of our stage shows. You can come 30 minutes in it. And I still haven't really gotten to the material yet. Right. So I've got something. It started out of 30 minutes. We've been working on it for a week, have it down to 18 minutes. And I was thinking today, the problem is I always add lib. So if I cut it down to 12, it'll still be 18. So I have to cut the text down to four minutes. How are you going to
Starting point is 00:22:07 talk about socialism in four minutes? It's really bad. That's about what you can do. Good night. Good night, everybody. So I'm opening tomorrow. And Mike Pence is going to be speaking as well. Mike Pence a lot. He's going to be speaking later in the day. I'm curious to see how the CPAC crowd is going to react when I walk out. Because it's always dicey. Because remember the first time I was there like, you know, CPAC, you're part of the problem. That was your big speech.
Starting point is 00:22:39 That was my big speech. Yeah, you progressives in this auditorium right here. Many of you are running CPAC. It didn't go over really well. You don't get invited to a lot of things, and that's why. I know, I know. So we're talking to socialism. So it's about socialism.
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Starting point is 00:24:03 itrust.com. slash Beck is the place to go. You can see this show every day for some reason you wanted to see us instead of just hearing us. Use the promo code back and get 10 bucks off. Welcome to the program. A. Pat Gray is joining us. Pat, did you see the Nike? ad, the woman, the women's power Nike ad?
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yes. You saw that yesterday? In case you didn't, in case you didn't see it, do we have the actual Nike ad, the original Nike ad? This is the one for, you know, about women. Now, now watch this. Go ahead and play that. If we show emotion, we're called dramatic. They're showing the woman crying after sports.
Starting point is 00:25:03 If we want to play against men, we're nuts. They're playing a... And if we dream of equal opportunity, delusional. When we stand for something, we're unhinged. It's super. It's going to need to calm down. When we're too good, there's something wrong with us. Okay, stop.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And if we get... So they're saying, you know, you're crazy. Nonsense. Nonsense, right? That is nonsense. We've redone the ad. Now, this is, this is, this is, if you're watching the blaze, you're going to really appreciate it. I'm not
Starting point is 00:25:39 going to say what the images are, but you'll understand, if you're listening to the radio, you'll understand probably the second image in. Here we go. We've redone it. If we show emotion, we're called dramatic. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:59 If we want to play against men, we're nuts. We want to stop it and you want to play those games. Have a nice day. And if we dream of equal opportunity, delusional. I am a man and I demand to be treated as an individual, and I demand to be treated equally. When we stand for something, we're unhinged.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I will stand with Israel. I will stand with the Jewish people. When we're too good, there's something wrong with us. Beck had long argued that radical Islamists were pursuing a dream of establishing a caliphate in the Middle East, and that's exactly what ISIS has managed. to do. And if we get angry, we're hysterical or rational or just being crazy. I haven't seen anyone in Washington say I was wrong about the caliphate. Oh, I seem to have been wrong. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy and crazy. Do I want to vaporize France? As much as I want to vaporize you. So if they want to call you crazy? And you want to call me crazy? And you want to call me
Starting point is 00:27:09 Crazy. Go to hell. Fine. Show them what crazy can do. And it's debatable. I'm not sure. Well, for a long time, we've suspected. You're about 85% woman.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I went with answer B on that one. Yeah, it's definitely that one. We'd definitely be posted on social with a poll. Is Nike wrong or is Glenn Beck a woman? That would be hard for our listeners. It would be. It would be. It would be.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Pat, as we're speaking about confused gender roles, Michael Jackson, there's a new documentary, and I know this comes as a shock, two shocks in a row. Democrats did try to take away your guns yesterday. They passed a bill. I know. It's crazy. And Michael Jackson apparently was attracted to the little boys. What?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. Yeah. We did that start. Not recently. I can promise that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So there's this new documentary out. And it's pretty disturbing. It's out for HBO this weekend. I'm looking forward to seeing it because it's apparently really convincing. Every article I've read in every review about the documentary is that they do a heck of a job convincing people. Even though they lied under oath and they admit that and they talk about that. Yeah, because they were the star witnesses on Michael Jackson's behalf. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:42 In the trial. 92 or 93. What is their excuse? They because they defended him because of that weird relationship. they had with him. They loved him and they wanted to defend him. It's interesting. I actually am most interested in seeing you watch this, Pat, because you're one of the only people I know who kind of bounces back and forth. So whether you think Jackson did this stuff. For a long time, I thought he was just asexual. I just, and he had sleepovers with boys because he had a stunted
Starting point is 00:29:09 childhood. And so he did it as an adult. Right. I think that you could make the case. Pat and I talked about this for years back in the 80s and 90s, that this guy. had his childhood taken from him and he didn't know how to behave he didn't know what was real he didn't have any normal relationships and he became super super awkward as an adult and you could see him being asexual now when he was like no that's nothing wrong with sleeping a little boy yeah that was a little creepy then you were like no I don't think so I suspected he was guilty and believed he was guilty but you know of course you're just guessing and the whole time until until that interview then the interview happened and I was like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah, 100% now. I thought he's guilty. Are you talking about the interview with Ed Bradley on 60 minutes or whatever that was? Is that the one where he was saying, I think it was 60 minutes? Are you still saying that it's okay for a 45-year-old man to sleep with 12-year-old boys not related to him in their bed? Of course. Of course. Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:10 That was a little weird. That was a little weird. Not as weird as this new revelation that one of the boys, did a wedding with Michael Jackson. I don't know who was the bride. The kid was the bride. Yeah. And the parents didn't know.
Starting point is 00:30:30 But they found out and he supposedly, I mean, this is all alleged, that Jackson paid a million dollars to the father of the kid so that he wouldn't say anything about it. Well, you would have the transaction. Well, they had, I mean, you have to have the transaction. That was another part of both the trial and that interview
Starting point is 00:30:47 because he had paid off so many kids. So many. I mean, it was just hard to. I mean, it was believe he didn't do it. Tens of millions of dollars. But you don't remember. You don't remember when you were wed to that 45-year-old man. No, I don't remember that at all.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Really? No. He blocked it out. Probably. Yeah, because it's so normal. No recollection. Oh, how many 45-year-old men do that? Have sleepovers with 12-year-old boys.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Well, and then do a little boy up like a little girl. And then marry him. And Mary him. it's so common. Happens in some of the best cults in the world. No, it's very weird. It's definitely. And I will say, though, sometimes you do pay off people who didn't, who are alleging
Starting point is 00:31:27 things. Just to avoid the publicity. Exactly. They'll give you example from yesterday's testimony. Michael Cohen said he was going out to look to potentially pay off or buy a story about Melania Trump being hit in an elevator. Then there was video of it. And he's like, number one, I don't think it happened.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And number two, like I'll say a lot of bad things about Donald Trump, but he would never do that. he would never hit Melania. And so like, and like, and they, oh, and he, they didn't believe it was true. They still pursued it to try to kill it out of the media because, you know, when you're a certain level, you do those things. You do. You know, the parents are culpable too here. Big time.
Starting point is 00:32:02 If he did do this, then the parents are negligent. And they should do time as well. If somebody comes to me with a million dollars and says, hey, yeah, I know I married your son. Oh, my gosh. I don't care how much money you offer me. No. I'm going to police. You are.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Or to allow them to stay over at Michael Jackson's house in the first place. Yeah, it's crazy. Think of the most famous person in the world right now. Would you allow your children to spend the weekend with them? No. Hey, how about I drop them off Friday night and we'll pick them back up Monday morning? No. Do you remember when Michael Jackson called in on the show?
Starting point is 00:32:40 This is years and years ago. Oh, this was after Valentine's Day, wasn't it? Valentine's Day. and he wanted to, you know, we did the, like we just did on Valentine's Day, where we bailed the guys out that, you know, missed it or couldn't get flowers or whatever. A couple of the year program. Yeah. And Michael Jackson wanted to participate in that?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, this was the day after, I think it was. Because he heard it. 12 years ago. But he heard it initially and I think we wanted to get in on it the next day. Yeah. So here it is. Oh, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi, Michael.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Hello. Hey. Hello, Clemich, Michael. Michael. How are you? Well, I'm so sick of hearing about all of these freaks in the news. Yes, I know you are. There are so many freaks all over the media coverage is horrifying.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I know. Are you in the hospital? I'm very sick. You're very sick. What happened? I know you were taken right to the hospital. I was taken right to the hospital. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I feel awful. You're still at the hospital. I had a chance to listen to your show yesterday. You did? It was wonderful. Really? Can I still get in on that couple of? of the year thing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 No, we pretty much closed the door on the couple of the year thing. Well, I'd really like an opportunity to be involved. Well, this is where we would call, you know, your wife and, you know, apologize. You didn't do anything for Valentine's Day? Well, I hung out at the chunky cheese.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It was wonderful. Yes. I threw a private party there. It was terrific. I love children. I would never hurt a child. I know. Let me do. I have the form here. have to fill out the form. Oh, I filled out the form. You filled it out? You filled it out on the website?
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm ready to go. Okay, let's see. Dear Mr. Beck, I've never entered a contest like this before. However, I felt I had to tell you about my beautiful cancerous fan. I really can't express in words how uniquely wonderful. The unnamed accuser. Truly is. Honestly, at first, I thought I was attracted to his age. I don't think this is going to work, Michael. Keep going. But as time went on, it turned into so much more, I guess I knew it was true love the first time we...
Starting point is 00:34:56 Took the training wheels off his bike. Hello? Yes. And that trip to... The secret room behind the giant teddy bear. Wow. That was... What a perfect time that was.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I guess what sets him apart is the distinction. In a distinctive way, he... Isn't old. Unlike any other... Boy in the world of amusement park owning pedophile victims. I'm sorry, unlike anybody... What was that? Any other boy in the world of amusement park owning pedophile victims.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Anyway, I could go on forever, but that would take away from my time with him, and I have to get back to work at... The Neverland Ranch. Where I... Malest children to 9-5 Monday. Friday and sometimes in the overnights when they're sleeping. Everyone always tries to make love
Starting point is 00:35:51 so complex and that's why I think we should be your Valentine's couple of the year because for me it's simple. I just love wine, coloring books, and Corey Feldman. Yeah, we should have
Starting point is 00:36:12 seen it. We should have seen all the signs were there. There really were hints. I mean, I don't want to be like detective here, but you hear it. Yeah. Yeah, but you don't want to make too much of those answers. No. No.
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Starting point is 00:38:25 And there's a picture here of a llama on the light rail in Portland. well it's just the one llama right multiple llamas right and the old guy with the beard he's he's got the llama on a leash what it's his service llama when you look at the llama from at least the perspective you're showing it to me it kind of looks like it's an old guy
Starting point is 00:38:51 with a beard well that's kind of maybe in Portland sure so is you saying there's something wrong with this that llamas are you anti or an anti-lamas what's your well no I mean this Caesar is the, quote, no drama llama and very well behaved. And he was well behaved on his ride. And he is, I'm not kidding you, a service animal.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He's an emotional support llama? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I noticed this, quite a trend. Number one with emotional support animals. Number two, children's book authors have discovered that llama rhymes with both drama and mama, which gives them a lot of opportunities for rhymes and children's books. Lots of books released.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Well, here is the complaint, Stu. Transit police and fair inspectors, according to some, harass people of color, but apparently white people can do whatever the F they want. That's a good hot take on that. Wow, that's sizzling, isn't it? Yeah. That's because a guy bringing a llama on a train is a race issue now. Every, oh, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It's like, here is Martin Luther King who says our goal here is to be colorblind, to make color not an issue. And the result of his movement is color is the only issue. No, this is not it. That's not a result of his. Gender shouldn't be an issue. You shouldn't care about whether it's a woman or a man. You're hiring for that job.
Starting point is 00:40:26 By the way, it's the only thing. that matters now. Color and gender are the only two things that matter. Everything can be boiled down to a, every decision you make is based on whether you dislike black people or don't like women or think gay people are bad.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Maybe, just maybe you make rational decisions based on the evidence available. Like what are you talking about? You know, maybe Lama's on train's not a good idea whether they're white or black. Maybe. Who are you to say that I can't bring my emotional support Lama
Starting point is 00:40:57 onto a train. You know what? Put all the llamas in the back of the train. Give them their own car. Separate the llamas from the people. They're lesser than us. Portland, no, don't do it. Fill your light rail.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I pay money for a herd of llamas to ride the light rail. Let's do it. Come on, there's got to be a llama rancher out there someplace that will take me up. Let's fill Portland's light rail with. llamas. You're listening to Glenn Beck. Let me tell you about American financing.
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Starting point is 00:43:24 He's always been. a joke. He's not credible. He's never been credible. Well, but he did say yesterday, well, I think the president won't give up the Oval Office without a fight, even if he loses the election. Oh, really? So while the world was distracted by a lot of different circus shows, there was something important happening at the Supreme Court, and it looks good for conservatives, at least at this point. We'll tell you about it from a guy who was in the room. at the Supreme Court yesterday. Next.
Starting point is 00:44:01 This is the Glenn Beck program. Back to that story in one minute. I want to talk to you a little bit about 23 and me. We got our 23 and me DNA test back. My son is 0.3% African, which I don't know if that's going to help him get into college. I'm 1.3 Native American. That's 13 times more Native American than Elizabeth.
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Starting point is 00:46:16 The First Liberty, in case you don't know, is the largest legal firm in the nation that all they do is try to protect religious freedom in America, fighting the good fight. You were in the Supreme Court yesterday and First Liberty was defending something that was a statue that has been around forever, commemorating those who. lost their lives in World War I, and a bunch of atheists got together and said, this is in the shape of a cross, and the city is mowing the lawn around it. That's not right. And wanted it removed. What happened yesterday, Kelly? Well, it's kind of surreal, as you say, that we're even at the Supreme Court on this. I mean, this is the Peace Cross in Maryland right outside of D.C. It was put up
Starting point is 00:47:05 almost 100 years ago by mothers who lost their sons in World War I, along with the American Legion. And we, at this point, you know, before the Supreme Court makes its decision, we are at a point where the Court of Appeals said it's unconstitutional after 100 years, we're going to have to tear it down. In fact, one of the judges on the appellate court said, why don't we just cut the arms off the cross? Won't that take care of any offense? And so it's, I can't even believe. believe we're in this battle, but I think it might be something that you could turn something really bad into good. We'll see there's, there's an approach, Glenn, that has been used now
Starting point is 00:47:45 for many decades by the Supreme Court that has created just chaos in this whole area of the law of the establishment clause. Congress will make no law respecting establishment of religion. It's called the Lemon Test. Lemon Test, that's right. And the lemon test has no, there's no parameters, right, on the Lemon test. We don't really know what that even means, do we? No, they added to it, and part of the test now is that if a person in the community were to walk by a memorial and they were to see that it's religious and it made it feel like an outsider in the community, then that's a violation of the establishment clause.
Starting point is 00:48:23 What? And so it's kind of the, it's what's called the offended observer gets to bring a lawsuit. And it's like, Justice Gorsuch yesterday, he made clear, he said, We don't allow this in any area of the law. Somebody to come forward and say they're offended, and therefore they have a right to bring lawsuits under the Constitution because they're offended. But that's where we are with this.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They're a group of people, a small hit down. And so discussion about this yesterday. And this was our goal to get rid of this bad lemon test that has created so much trouble in our country. And really, it's created hostility to religion, which is not what the founders ever wanted. Right. So why do you think that this went so well yesterday?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Well, I think it's clear that there – some people would say there might even be up to seven justices who agree that there's nothing wrong with this memorial. Again, the facts are so solid in this case. I mean, the reason the cross was – I mean, they're trying to say, well, they use the cross because they're supporting one religion over another and they're doing all this stuff. The cross was used. If you look at any history, you go back at World War. one, millions of young men died. And they were putting them in graves overseas so quickly. And they were just slapping a cross in front of everybody just to make sure they knew there was a person. And the pictures that came back were row after row after row of crosses as far as you can
Starting point is 00:50:02 see. And there were poems written about this and everything else. So that was the universal symbol they picked. And I think the court realizes that. So I think the only issue that is coming out of this is going to be, are they going to change the test? This test that's been used to kind of create these attacks on religious symbols and monuments and things around the country. And there were a number of justices, including the chief justice, is a mess. This test, Glenn, when they want to knock something down, but then they ignore the test completely when they have to uphold something that the founders clearly thought was okay. So there was a case just a few years ago about can you have prayer to open city council meetings well the founders had prayer to open
Starting point is 00:51:04 their meetings they even paid a chaplain and so they couldn't say that that's unconstitutional under the establishment clause but if they had applied the lemon test they had to strike it down so they didn't apply the test so they talked about this yesterday and said this is forcing all the lower courts they have no idea what the law is what things to apply and I think they know they need to do something and I think there's a really good shot that they're going to get rid of what has created a really a catastrophe in this area of the law. Kelly, if I'm not mistaken, the way the court is ruling on things, there is a change in the court.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And is it just the addition of Gorsuch that is happening? Because there seems to be, and when it comes to religion, that the Supreme Court is starting to define those boundaries a little bit clearer and actually protect. Haven't we had several cases this session where they are protecting religious liberty? There's some huge signals coming out, Glenn. This case is one of them. I think we now have five justices for the first time, maybe since the 1920s, who actually believe in following the written word of the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And that's going to result. and things changing because they're going to say it's not about what we want it's about what the framers said what the constitution said what it means and i think when it comes to religious freedom we have five that are really pretty solid on religious freedom i think cavanall is a guy who i mean he don't it cabinol as a young attorney donated his time on a case with me you know almost 20 years ago he's been committed to religious freedom his whole life he understands it and i i think the same about Roberts, who's considered a swing boat a lot of times. So I think we're going to start to see some clarity and some good decisions come out.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And we're talking about the Establishment Clause. We have another case, the Coach Kennedy case, the coach got fired for going to a knee after the football game to say a 20-minute silent prayer. Yeah. They issued a statement before conservative justices last month on that case that sent shockwaves throughout the country. And that is, at the end of the decision that they had laid down, they actually said, you know, first, not a free exercise of religion claim. And they said, that might be because of the damage to the free exercise of religion. And they said, but we haven't been asked to overturn that yet. Subtle hint that they're ready to go after some of these really bad cases, just freedom for the last four or five decades.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And so both on the establishment clause and the free exercise clause, both the religion clauses, we're really excited. You know, it's amazing, Kelly. The press is so focused on Donald Trump. I mean, he is the ultimate red herring. No comment on his hair. He really is. I mean, they are so focused on him that you could go in and say,
Starting point is 00:54:26 every baby gets an automatic weapon through the Supreme Court or through Congress. And I don't think that the press would even focus on it. because they're so focused on him. We feel like we're losing the battles almost every day because we see these huge leaps of power for the left that we're not seeing or hearing because nobody's reporting on these victories in the court and what's really happening in the court. It's game-changing, isn't it? It is. I can't agree with you more. This is, I mean, I've been doing religious freedom work.
Starting point is 00:55:06 my entire life and, you know, been working hard. And I feel like everything we've all been working for for the last 30 years is beginning to happen and not in small ways. And I think this is, this is going to be a huge return of power to the people, getting the government out of, sort of being the religious monuments, police and, you know, but part of the things we're talking about just from the case yesterday, you know, think of all the, you know, the minores that have been, so you can't put that menorah up in public around Hanukkah, or you can't do the nativity scene, or you can't have that 10 commandments, or, I mean, oh, my gosh, you've got a steeple on your city seal, well, you know, and so all that stuff is ridiculous if you're talking to the founders,
Starting point is 00:55:56 and I think, I mean, this case could end all of that, and it'll affect much more, but that's just real-life things that people are used to seeing. And so I think both the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause, there's great hope. We'll have to wait and see what the decisions are. But I think it's going to be a really, I mean, we're talking about decades changing sort of the hinge point of history. Like we've had decades of some really bad law. And I think we're about to move towards some decades of some really good law and religious freedom and the First Amendment. I will tell you that David Barton told me that he said, Glenn, if the thing, come out the way they're feeling, he said, by the end of this session, he said, we may have more
Starting point is 00:56:39 religious freedom than any time since the founding of the nation. He said they've been screwing it up for so long. He said, I think we're going back to the way things were originally intended. Would you agree with that, or is that too far? No, I do. I mean, it's kind of, it's kind of silly. You know, most nonprofit groups like our legal firm have a vision statement. And they're kind of pie in the sky, you know? If this happens, this would be nirvana, right? And ours is to return the country to the religious freedom that was the vision of our founders. I never thought I would see it in my lifetime. But I think that's now what we're going to see because we actually have justices who want to follow what the Constitution and the founders.
Starting point is 00:57:27 we're doing. And that's just unique. We haven't seen that in our lifetime. And so I think we're going to start to see decisions go back to what that founding vision was and the religious freedom that this country is built on. And I think that's only going to be a blessing for the country and the future of everything we do. Wow. Kelly, thank you so much. And thank you for the hard work that you've put in for so long. Chief Counsel, First Liberty Institute, if you want to be involved, you want to donate. I mean, they are doing amazing work right now, firstliberty.org, first liberty.org. Kelly, thank you so much. God bless. Thank you, Glenn. You bet. Now, if we could just get the justices to be good on the freedom of speech part, the second amendment, the fourth amendment, the fifth amendment. Count your blessings on this. I know, no, I know. If we can get one amendment. If we can get one fifth of one amendment, which is what we're talking about, that's a huge win.
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Starting point is 01:01:18 They're building things separately. And when they all come together, that's when there's a problem. Losing your gun rights without you ever figuring it out until it's too late coming up in about 35 minutes on this program. Also, I have to say thank you to everyone listening and viewing on the Blaze story today in media post. The Blaze is on fire. how it overtook Breitbart and now has the blaze as the number two conservative site on the
Starting point is 01:01:44 internet just behind Fox News. So it's really cool. 143% growth in the last year. Going out of business. Well, I mean, I don't think it's going out of business at the moment. I know. I mean, there's part of me and I'm going to celebrate in this. And then I'll never say it again.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Don't bet against a man who has nothing to lose. Just going to say that. All right. head. I think it's exciting. And, you know, the audience has been there the entire time. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for this, for that. And the growth in the ratings has been really strong over the past year. We never talk about this stuff because it's meaningless to you. But, I mean, it matters to us to at least say thank you. And we know, and we do notice. I mean, we look at the radio ratings. The radio ratings are through the roof. Everything has been
Starting point is 01:02:31 just amazing. And we are greatly blessed. And we are blessed by a very loyal audience. And thank you. Just thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I may have given up, but you never gave up on us. And I really am grateful for that. And just watch us grow now. Exciting. So we're number two behind Fox.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yeah, Fox is. So number two conservative media site behind Fox. Yeah. And then it goes, Washington Exameter is now third. Bright parts all the way back to fourth. than Washington Times, Daily Collar, and Western Journal and National Review. And Daily Wire is after that. So there's a lot of good sites in that.
Starting point is 01:03:16 You know, look, there's a lot of good sites in that group. We're honored. And I'll just say, we'll be even better when, you know, we had CR TV. So then we merged and we went at Blaze TV. And I think Blaze TV wire would be great. You're really pushing this one, aren't you? And we can even be daily Blaze TV wire. I'm just... At some point, people's fingers get tired from typing.
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Starting point is 01:06:21 His essay is one of those, the political homeless life of a gay conservative. And he joins us now. Hello, Brad. How are you? Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. You bet. Thanks for being so honest in your Quillette story.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Can you take us through? Maybe start here. The guy who broke up with you because he was crying and said, he just couldn't date a Republican anymore. Yeah, so I worked on this piece for a long time, right? Because I wanted to combine my personal experiences with people I interviewed with broader trends that I observed in the progressive world and in the LGBT media. And it eventually all found its way back to one place.
Starting point is 01:07:07 If you identify as conservative, but you also happen to be gay, life in neither side of the aisle is particularly comfortable for you. So for me, that meant that I have experienced honestly widespread in from other people in the LGBT community, who should understand more than anyone that it's okay to be different. Largely, they don't. So that includes a boyfriend of multiple months who broke up with me in part because he was uncomfortable with my political views, which are by no means radical.
Starting point is 01:07:35 They're just not liberal. And that's just another example of intolerance that I've experienced, honestly, too many times to count from left-wing gay people. Now, Brett, I mean, as a guy who, you know, just was never good on the dating scene at all. That sounds like something that somebody could have said to me, and really they didn't know anything about my politics. They were just like looking for something.
Starting point is 01:08:02 You know, it's not you, it's me kind of stuff. Are you sure it wasn't, you know, I'm just throwing this one out here. You're just not my speed. I really don't think so. We had some pretty intense conversations about that. And it's been a recurring theme. You know, when I first started putting myself out there on the dating scene in college, I would have people who would match with me on dating apps or on websites just to tell me to go and kill myself or off myself or that I was disgraced to the community, right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Because I was a little bit well-known around campus for my conservative viewpoints and those sorts of things. So because it's been a reoccurring trend, I can tell you that I'm pretty confident it was not just another excuse. So tell me about because I think there's a lot of people that feel like they don't have a home anywhere. And, you know, when it comes to gay people, you would think that it's a clear match because a conservative should be about the constitutional principles that we have, which basically say, leave me alone. I'm different. And I thought we were supposed to celebrate that I'm different and you're different and we're supposed to get along. That's what the Constitution says. It protects people to be who they are, so they can be who they are.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And yet, somehow the Republicans, and it comes from a lot of religious conservatives, have made gay people feel very, very unwelcome. So is that changed? Is that different? How do you deal with the difference between the two parties? Well, so first off, Glenn, I totally agree with you. think that I'm not personally a huge social conservative, but I do identify as a constitutional conservative for the reasons that you just mentioned. You know, what does the First Amendment do
Starting point is 01:09:54 if it doesn't protect your right to think differently, to be different, to have freedom of conscience? And so that's one of the reasons I find the left-wing movement that's moving in on all these freedoms, uh, so unappealing. But what I'll say is that it's a combination of two things that creates this political homelessness. In part, it is what you have identified that there's some lingering intolerance among the conservative movement, I will say among young Republicans, I've really had extremely welcoming and accepting experiences. But you know, the reality remains that half of Republicans don't believe in gay marriage. And I don't think that that makes them terrible people or evil or anything. But it does make me, obviously, not fully comfortable with the people who I would
Starting point is 01:10:37 otherwise politically largely agree with. And the same thing is true. I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, the same thing is true on the opposite side of the spectrum, right? Because the progressive LGBT media ecosystem essentially acts like gay people who aren't liberals don't exist. You know, you go to these websites, QueerT.com, LGBT Advocate and Out Magazine. And they have articles praising gun control and bashing Ivanka Trump. And they call this the gay agenda, right? They're basically acting like all gay people think with their body parts and we're not individuals. So they're trying to erase the 20% or so of LGBT people who don't think like that.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And for me, that's a huge problem. So let me ask you this, Brad. My stance on gay marriage has been the same since the 90s. I don't care. I mean, it's not my business constitutionally. The government only got into the marriage business to make sure that whites didn't marry black. or blacks marry white so we couldn't mix the races and later it became about undesirables making sure that we don't create any more undesirables the reason why government got into marriage in the first place they're all bad and they have no place in anybody's marriage but as long as if you want to get married I don't care if I want to get married I you shouldn't care but we shouldn't be in people's lives the problem with conservatives I think is there are some that are just like, it's wrong and God says it's wrong and that's all there is to it.
Starting point is 01:12:17 But there's, I think, a bigger majority of conservatives that say, look, that's them. Whatever you want to do, go ahead. But they're afraid that the gay agenda just wants to shut down all religion, that it's not really about love. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. I think the position that you're articulating is very intellectually honest. And I think that the people who are still holdouts against gay marriage, I hope that they can kind of come see the light,
Starting point is 01:12:48 especially because I try to make the gay marriage argument from a case for family values, right, almost to appeal to conservatives. But I think you hit on something that I do think is partly the own fault of the LGBT community. Right. When you have an LGBT advocate class that does target religion entirely, right? They're not just seeking freedom for to be who you are, to have kids, to get married. they're seeking freedom to force other people, right? Like, for example, Jack Phillips, the baker who didn't want to bake the gay cake.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Correct. The LGBT advocate class has really forced some conservatives to kind of dig in into their trenches because they're not just looking for freedom, they're looking to force their views onto other people. And that's where I think both sides get it wrong. Because a society that's truly tolerant, but you have the right to be Christian, and me have the right to be gay, and we all just live our lives in peace. And we all, we all get along. I mean, you know, we all get along.
Starting point is 01:13:41 One of the thing, Brad, is how is it? And I say this really was socialists, but also, you know, gay people as well. A group of people, socialists in Hollywood, that had to, were blacklisted, were tried. Some of them went to prison, had to live in the closet, either because of their sexuality or because of their political beliefs. is it just vengeance or why can they not see they're doing this they're becoming the monster that they fought against? I'm not sure. Honestly, the causes of this kind of veil of intolerance that's sweeping the progressive movement and kind of the LGBT far less proud. I'm not sure exactly what the cause is.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I will say that we have a tendency across our society when there was historic kind of oppression or anything to try to swing back not to the middle, but too far to the other side. And I think that the LGBT advocacy class has not been an exception to that rule. They've absolutely done that because we have to acknowledge the fact that for a long time, LGBT people have really faced some terrible conditions in American history. And I think largely that's not true today and that's great. But that is probably why I think a lot of these people have swung far to the other extreme. And that's understandable, but it's still fundamentally misguided.
Starting point is 01:15:05 And Brad, it seems like the lesson learned a lot of times from these longer struggles with groups that have had tough times in America is to find, you know, pick a group that they think is helping them. Whether it's, you know, whatever group in the government, Democrats, Republicans, that they think is helping them and then kind of stick to that side for a long period of time afterwards. But it seems to me the decision should be made as a, in a way of thinking about collectivism versus individualism. And if you're a minority group or a group that's had troubles with the government in the past, the last thing to me you would want is the government to have more power in a centralized place where whenever X, Y, or Z group decide, you know, the country decides that they're the enemy next time, they're getting going to be vulnerable. If we empower people who are individualists who believe in small government and limited government
Starting point is 01:15:58 to be able to do these things and run the country without making these decisions as to what groups they don't like. Isn't that just better for everybody? Yeah, I could not agree with you more there because one thing that drives me crazy is the same LGBT progressive advocates who will tell you the government is viciously oppressive are the same ones who want to take everyone's guns away. So the point that it makes perfect sense to me, right? If you really think that the government has a history of being oppressive, the certain groups, and I do, then you should want that government to be as small as possible because clearly it's shown that it can't handle
Starting point is 01:16:32 widespread power. So I would love to see more LGBT people applying the lens of their historical experiences really to the question of today of how much can we really let and start running people's lives. Because individualism really is the ethos of my personal philosophy. And honestly, it should be that for more gay people. So how can people like us or just, you know, regular people who are just listening, who are not members of the gay community, how can we help bridge a gap? What can we do? Well, so it starts with a couple things.
Starting point is 01:17:09 It can be hard at times to reach the other side when they feel trapped into this us-vers-them mentality, which is in part driven by kind of the identitarian dogma of intersectionality on the left. But it's also, I think, driven by when you have high-profile conservatives who will say, or high-profile conservative media, who will sometimes say or make comments or take positions about LGBT issues that are just either inflammatory and unfair or needlessly controversial.
Starting point is 01:17:41 For example, I mean, if you're going to have traditional views about gender, I can respect that position. But if you go out of your way to whenever you're debating it with somebody, tell them that they're mentally deranged, right, with a transgender person. You're being needlessly antagonistic and you're turning other people off from, I think, just your entire political movement with that. So I think you can have the views you're going to have, but it's about taking an approach where you can try to meet people in the middle and try to make arguments that will appeal to them and won't activate their us versus them mentality. I tell you, Brett, I don't know if you've ever read this.
Starting point is 01:18:14 My dad made me read it when I was in high school, and I read it begrudgeonly, and I picked it up recently. And it has all of the answers we need. It really does, even though it was written in, you know, the Great Depression. it's how to win friends and influence people and basically it just said what it says what you just said just said why why why why why not listen to other people see what they're feeling see what they need see how you can help and just help them help them um and you know and and be comfortable with that and then all of a sudden you'll notice wait a minute my life has changed somehow or another because you're just being cool with everybody and really listening to them.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Brad, thank you so much for your article and thanks for being on the program. Thanks for having me. You bet. Hope we can talk again. Thank you so much. It is, by the way, it's at quillette.com, Brad Palumbo. Just look at a politically homeless life of a gay conservative. Really well worth the time to read.
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Starting point is 01:19:47 which is a really smart show. And he was a guy who was consulting for the Pentagon, and he's the guy who found out that, yeah, there was a foreign state, a foreign actor that was trying to crash our economy in 2008. I remember talking to him back then. Yeah. This one we were at Fox. And I was talking to him yesterday.
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Starting point is 01:21:22 www. nmLS consumer access.org. This is the Glenn Beck program. Coming up in just a few minutes, we're going to talk about HR 8. H.R.8 is what the Congress passed yesterday. The House of Representatives passed a bill yesterday that is common sense bipartisan gun reform. No, it's not. It's neither common sense, nor is it really bipartisan. This is a ruse.
Starting point is 01:22:16 They pass it one piece at a time. They're passing this now with one piece. Here's this one piece. Look how harmless this is. Oh, here's this other piece. Look how harmless this is. When you snap everything together, it's total control of your gun. And for the moment, this shouldn't go past the house, right?
Starting point is 01:22:35 I mean, certainly I would have to. If this goes through the Republicans, they are absolutely worthless. I assume even if it did get through the Senate somehow, Trump would veto it. There's no way he wouldn't veto this. So I don't think this is going to happen, but this is a warning of what will come if they are able to sweep the presidency in the Senate in 2020. In 2020, we could be rightless. And I'm not. That's no hyperbole. You're listening to Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 01:23:58 Dot com. Great show on guns next. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glembeck program. Democrats passed in the House a bipartisan common sense gun control law. R8. I need to tell you a story because Democrats know
Starting point is 01:24:34 it's all about the story. Well, I'm going to introduce you to some characters that will help you understand exactly what story, what fairy tale you're being told on how the witch in the gingerbread house ends up with you in the oven and all of the guns.
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Starting point is 01:27:08 He did it over six days. and on the sixth day he opened fire on people that were at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival he killed 85 people he wounded 8151 others the deadliest mass shooting committed by one person in U.S. history then he turned the gun on himself
Starting point is 01:27:35 when police investigated his room they found 23 rifles and one handgun. They found 14-223-caliber AR-15-type rifles, 8-308-caliber AR-10, 1-308-caliber bolt action, 1-38-caliber revolver. And on the kitchen counter next to his hotel room, there were four credit cards.
Starting point is 01:28:09 That's really what this story is about. not the guns, but the credit cards. To understand what is coming now, you have to understand Andrew Ross Sorkin and what he saw when he saw the credit cards. Listen. After Parkland, the shooting in Parkland and trying to look at the role that banks and credit cards play in these things,
Starting point is 01:28:37 I really decided to take a deep dive into this. The article is called Devastating Arsenal's Bought with plastic and nary a red flag. It is a New York Times investigation that looks at mass shootings, every single major mass shooting in America since Virginia Tech in 2007. It really reveals how credit cards
Starting point is 01:28:54 have become such a crucial part of the planning of these massacres in a way that I have to say I did not even appreciate myself. The article is written by Andrew Ross Sorkin, works for the New York Times. Now, something tells me he's never fired a gun in his life. But when he wrote,
Starting point is 01:29:14 wrote the article how banks unwittingly finance mass shootings in the New York Times. It's time to pay attention. He starts by pointing out that there have been 13 shootings that have killed 10 or more people in last decade and in at least eight of them, the killers financed their attacks using credit cards, Virginia Tech, Binghamton in 2009, Fort Hood, Aurora, San Bernardino, Orlando, Sutherland Springs and Vegas. And he pointed out that over the course of eight months before the Pulse Nightclub shooting in Orlando, the shooter opened six new credit card accounts, just 12 days before the shooting.
Starting point is 01:29:54 He spent $26,532 on a Sigsawar MCX-223 caliber rifle and a Glock 17 9-millimeter semi-automatic pistol and several large magazines. He also bought thousands of rounds of ammunition. and then he went out and bought a $7,500 ring for his wife that he bought on a jewelry store card. Should the bank have allowed him to do that? Because before that month, he spent about $1,500 a month. The difference was so dramatic that two days before the shooting, the killer frantically searched Google for credit card unusual spending and credit card reports all three bureaus.
Starting point is 01:30:42 He searched FBI and Y, banks stop your purchases. So should Google have alerted anyone? The killer in Aurora, Colorado, the movie theater, spent $11,000 on guns and ammunition, all on a credit card. The issue now has revealed a split between the banks and credit card companies. On one side, there are companies that support monitoring as a form of public safety. following the shooting in Parkland, Florida, Citigroup adopted a new code of conduct for gun dealers and manufacturers that the bank does business with.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It requires retailers to impose age limit restrictions on gun sales. That is against the Constitution. There is no law, but Citigroup has said, well, you know what? This is what we want to do as a company. And have they received any pushback from the general population? check your credit cards do you have a city card do you do business with city bank do you think the left would be doing business with city bank if this was reversed if city bank said we're not going to do any transactions or any financial services with any doctors that will not support abortion
Starting point is 01:32:00 do you think the left would have city bank's attention yet CEO michael corbott said the policy quote, is intended to preserve the rights of responsible gun owners like myself while relying on best sales practices to keep firearms out of the wrong hands. The new policy does not restricts Citigroup customers from using the company's cards from gun purchases. Bank of America took similar approach. They stopped giving loans to gun manufacturers. Overwhelmingly, however, good news is banks and credit card companies have refused to take poor, part in any kind of monitoring.
Starting point is 01:32:46 So you have Bank of America and Citigroup. Do you do business with either of those? Remember, the left, if they were told, no, no, no, it's not the whole doctor thing. No, it's just if they say that a minor can have an abortion, I mean, after their, after they're 18 or 21, that's fine. But if they, if those people are saying they can have an abortion without their parents' permission under 18 why we're not going to do any financing for that organization. Do you think the left would put up with that? Now, even if the banks and the credit card companies agreed to
Starting point is 01:33:27 start monitoring purchases, gun sales are tough to track because they many times appear on statements as, you know, sporting goods or retail shop purchases, you know, places like retailer, like Walmart, etc., sometimes discount stores, it'll just be marked variety. So who knows what that is. And then there are stores like Dick's sporting goods that imposed restrictions on their gun sales. How'd that work out for them? Now, Joseph Moreno, he's a former federal counterterrorism prosecutor, staff member of the FBI's 9-11 review commission. He says this is easy to fix. He said they have all the infrastructure in place.
Starting point is 01:34:08 They can deal with suspicious activity. It would just be tweaking it a bit to consider firearm-related information. and information is the key word information why does google have anything in your house with a microphone for information you think you're getting information no they're getting much more information about you facebook it's all about information we are living in surveillance capitalism times information is the key word. Now, there's lots of things that already happened. For instance, a bank has to report anytime a single person makes a transaction over $10,000.
Starting point is 01:34:54 I'm going to put $10,000 cash into my account. I'm going to take $10,000 out. Whether the transaction is legal or not, they have to report it. And banks must report the transactions over $5,000 if somebody just has a feeling that's suspicious. There are also laws. restrict gun purchases under the Gun Control Act of 1968, firearms dealers must report if someone buys two or more handguns in a span of five business days.
Starting point is 01:35:22 There's also a lot of official blowback from the idea that the banks could monitor our purchases, effectively compiling a list of all the gun owners. Last year, John Kennedy, not that John Kennedy, a Republican senator from Louisiana, introduced the No Red and No Blue Banks Act. The bill would prohibit the federal government from giving contracts to banks that would discriminate against lawful businesses based solely on social policy considerations. Even the ACLU has come out against monitoring by credit card companies saying that those efforts, they are afraid to prevent mass shootings could infringe on individual rights. Do you think? Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst at the ACLU, the speech, privacy, and technology project.
Starting point is 01:36:20 He says, quote, the implications of expecting the government to detect and prevent every mass shooting is believing the government should play an enormously intrusive role in American life, end quote. Which brings us back to Andrew Ross Sorkin's New York Times article. Sorkin doesn't seem convinced by any of this stuff. He would prefer if the government stepped in and forced credit card companies to start monitoring their customers, or at least the credit card companies that, you know, made that choice of their own volition. Listen to this and interview with him on PBS. So right now, legally, you decide you're going to send $10,000 anywhere. That gets reported to the government.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Instantly. Instantly. Already does. So we could instantly have reported this person just stockpiled $40,000 worth of weapons and grenades. Absolutely. Now, he then starts to take it in a strange direction. By the way, the credit card industry has, on its own volition, decided that there's certain things they don't want to finance. So if you want to buy Bitcoin, you can't.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Marijuana in many states is legal, you can't. MasterCard, interestingly, recently, went to a website that had some hate speech on it and said, we're no longer going to allow you to use credit card transactions using MasterCard because of this hate speech. So there are companies that are taking positions, if you will, on some of these things. And the question is how that can work in relation to guns.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Now, so he's, I guess he's all for the hate speech. By the way, that hate speech was not hate speech. That hate speech came from a friend of mine and a friend of this program. that hate speech was speaking out about the Muslim Brotherhood and not in hateful ways, a guy who used to brief Bill Clinton and George W. Bush on what Islamists really want. Now he's called a hater. And so now they're not going to do any transactions for him. That's hate speech.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Sorkin's article quotes a number of experts who more or less repeat a version of the the same thing. Card, credit card company should bear responsibility for mass shootings. Now, what does this have to do with HR 8? I continue the story in one minute. Our sponsor is Filter Buy. I know nothing about how to maintain a home. Nothing. Sink is leaking. I don't know. Is there a little knob thing underneath there that we change? Usually the knob thing is the change that you want to make. Right. And change the knob, twist the knob.
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Starting point is 01:41:26 This causes a trend called the spiral of silence, the idea that people holding views contrary to those dominant in the media are moved to keep those views to themselves for fear of rejection, unaware that there are plenty of like-minded people all around them who also feel alienated by the predominantly liberal voice of the media. That's why we started the 9-12 project. We started it because you're not alone. See how many people feel exactly like you do. The news media is very powerful. And the voice of the media seems to be everywhere. And they can select and maintain the narratives at will. They can impose values.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Often the values of the journalists who are writing the stories. And this imposition of silence amounts to a kind of authoritarianism that violates free speech and all of the principles of a. America. The New York Times, this article, no exception. As you might expect, Sorkin's article subtly makes it clear which side he and the New York Times are on. Here he is again in the PBS interview as he reveals that this is not a news story, but rather a social justice issue. Listen, right after I started writing about this after Parkland, the good news was a number of banks actually did take a step back. A Bank of America, Citigroup said, you know what, we're no
Starting point is 01:42:53 longer going to finance gun manufacturers. So the next question is, do you want to finance effectively the shooters? So let's look at that here. The column suggested that financial firms had an opportunity to help reduce violence by pushing for more responsibility practices for the gun industry. And as a result, some banks ended their relationships with gunmakers and some investors push manufacturers for more transparency. Well, he's also leaving out the fact that the governor of New York also said,
Starting point is 01:43:31 hey, by the way, if you're going to do business with gun manufacturing, it's just a lot easier for us. We're going to need to bring in some more auditors and things, because those guys can be a little sketchy sometimes. Not all of them, but some. So if you're doing any, just let us know because we're going to have to view you with a little more scrutiny. Well, what does that tell you? that if you just don't as a business, just don't get involved.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Just don't get involved. Now, I want to leave you with this quote. And then I'm going to show you how it all connects. We need to step back and think about what tools we use to combat terrorism and money laundering. And think about the financial rules associated with the Patriot Act. In a very real sense, I think these mass shooting events are. terrorism. So what is that telling you? These are these are death machines. These are these semi-automatic fully semi-automatic machine guns. I know we could spend an hour just
Starting point is 01:44:50 parsing that sentence how that doesn't work. Think of the children. This is what is happening and it is called your loss of financial rights that nobody even talks about. But if you can stop someone's speech by putting them behind a digital ghetto wall where they can't process anybody's credit card, where they can't do any financial transactions, you don't have to ban them. They just disappear. Now, how does this working with the gun manufacturers and gun stores, trying to stop their financial services,
Starting point is 01:45:42 how does that relate to what was just passed yesterday with H.R.8. I'll tell you when we come back. You're listening to Glenn Beck. You have to be self-reliant. There are so many things right now. know that the banks change the rules to where you're the lender of last resort. So you're the last in line. If they go bankrupt, you're not getting, you're not getting your money out of the bank. They can, they can declare and say, no, we had financial issues. We had to take your savings,
Starting point is 01:46:12 and we had to apply it over here to one of our debts. That's, that's, that's the common sense bipartisan changes that Congress made for the banks to save the, the banking institutes, institutions. You now are the backstop. They're too big to fail, but you're not. You're not. Now, here's the thing. You've got to have your risks spread out. Please call Gold Line.
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Starting point is 01:47:02 Coming up. I want to talk to you a little bit about guns and why H.R. 8 and today, Peter King, is introducing another gun ban bill, another gun control bill. It's H.R. 1112. I'll tell you about that here in a second. But what I just set up was how the New York Times columnists and how, how, others, including now the governor of New York, is pressuring these financial institutions based in New York, Citigroup, MasterCard, all of these people, J.P. Morgan Chase, Wells Fargo,
Starting point is 01:47:47 that, look, if you're going to do business with gun stores, gun manufacturers, you're going to help, you know, these, what do you call these, what do you call? them the gun conventions. That's not convention. You know, where they do the gun sales, the, yeah, gun shows. If you're going to do any help in any of the transactions and take any credit cards at the gun shows, then we can't help you. We don't want to finance you.
Starting point is 01:48:14 We don't want to have financial services. And the American people who believe in the Second Amendment still do businesses, the business with Citigroup, still do business with MasterCard, then you are giving them the rope to hang yourself with. They're going to hang you with it. They already are. Now, yesterday, the White House says it's against both of these bills, but yesterday they passed H.R. 8.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Now, what is H.R. 8 is common sense bipartisan legislation. that says you have to have an expanded background check. Now, this expanded background check means that if you want to buy a gun privately, now this is going to sound like common sense. If you want to buy a gun from a friend or whatever, you have to go to a gun store and have the gun store or the manufacturer do the check for you. and they have to process it, even if it is, you know, even if it's just between two friends. It's like I want to go over and borrow a cup of flour.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Okay, well, I got to go over to the bakery. So get in the car with me. We're going to go to the bakery and they're going to measure the flour and they're going to do a big background check. The banker loves it when he gets to waste his day, weighing somebody else's flour, doing all the background check. He's going to charge us a butload of money to do it because it's a pain in the ass that he gets nothing out of. We have to go to the bakery real quick and then I can loan you that flour or give you that flour. That's insanity. But it's common sense.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Okay, let's say it is. Well, what happens when you pass a law that says you cannot do it without the gun manufacturer or the gun store being involved? and then on the other side, you have financial institutions no longer giving loans or doing any financials transactions for manufacturers or gun stores. How are you going to get your gun? How are you going to do it? They've closed all the loopholes. You want to talk about a gun loophole? It's this.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Now, here's what the bill that Peter King, a Republican, has sponsored today. It's an enhanced background check 2019. It's going to be voted on the House today. It has 15 co-sponsors. Only one of them is a Republican. It's Peter King of New York. And that bill will extend the amount of time
Starting point is 01:51:12 firearms dealers must wait for a response from the background check system before the sale can proceed from three days to 20 days. Well, that's what's happening with technology. It's getting harder and harder for computers to communicate with each other. I know. And slower and slower and slower. Could take up to 20 days to get a response on that one.
Starting point is 01:51:33 I know. You don't know. You can't run a background check to see if anybody's been arrested that fast. No, it's impossible. It's impossible. That's why it used to take three days back in the days when technology was good. But now it's 20 days. So when the Obama administration was in, and this happened during the Clinton administration,
Starting point is 01:51:51 and gun store owners? correct me if I'm wrong. They would wait the full three days. The system is down. Oh, we're having problems with the computers. Oh, this is happening. Oh, this is happening. The minute, the minute George Bush got into office, magically, those were fixed.
Starting point is 01:52:11 And then it started happening again, strangely, as soon as Obama got in. They are going to use those 20 days. They are going to make it a hassle in. every possible way. They are closing down all of the avenues. They're also talking about a tax on your bullets. So they will price everybody out of it. So only drug dealers would even be able to buy bullets.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Only rich people would be able to buy bullets. But the people that the drug dealers are killing on the streets, they won't have the opportunity to defend themselves. They won't be able to afford it. Yeah, I was watching a movie on the worst mass shooting in history, and you might think it was the one in Vegas, but no. Well, actually, technically, about the first 10,000 worst mass shootings in history are all responsible by large governments. So I should throw those out by an individual in Norway. You may remember this.
Starting point is 01:53:15 The guy who went on, he first of all set off a bomb in downtown, in the downtown to try to kill the prime minister. And then took a boat over to an island where they were having a. a retreat. It was like a camp for kids of really rich parents, basically. And went and slaughtered 69 of them. One big time when there was really nobody over there. And it was interesting to see that. First of all, somehow this guy was able to get the guns and bullets that he needed in Norway,
Starting point is 01:53:46 where they have much more restrictive laws. It's almost impossible to get guns over there. And somehow he was able to do that and still kill a bunch of people. And yes, it was an island. So he did have a separation there. However, you know, you'd wonder if people were more likely to be armed, whether anyone could pull something like this off. You know, there's no guns. He knew going over there.
Starting point is 01:54:10 He was going to have no resistance whatsoever. Now, a lot of them, there were counselors and there was people who were running the camp. A lot of them. If you try to do that in Texas, most likely one of them, even at a camp, is going to have a firearm unless, of course, the government has told them it's a no gun zone. and they can't go into it. But like there was no, there was no, uh, gun law that stopped that. There was no,
Starting point is 01:54:32 uh, person to put up a defense. It was basically just a bunch of kids running for their lives on an island. And that does not turn out well. So I want to tell you part of a personal story here and ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies. Um, my family in the last couple of weeks have, has gone through a significant scare, security-wise,
Starting point is 01:55:00 and significant, probably one of a bigger scare than we've had in a very long time. Wow, really. And so we had a gun discussion in our family. And one of my daughters is in love with two of my daughters, and love with shooting and everything else. my other daughter just doesn't like it. She just doesn't feel comfortable around it. And she never has.
Starting point is 01:55:28 And I've never pushed it. I mean, if you're not comfortable around it and you don't want to do it, I'm not going to force you to do it. That's bad. You have to take on the responsibility to have a gun. And to have that responsibility, you have to want to do it. Well, this scared our family so deeply. We were all at the gun range, including that daughter.
Starting point is 01:55:50 And she, She's never really got, I think she's gone shooting with us once. And she shot maybe once and then she stepped away. She's like, I don't want this. Her fear has always been of, I'm not responsible enough to have a gun. Okay. And I think that's a really good position. It's a good fear to have.
Starting point is 01:56:11 It's a good fear to have. And I explained to her because she fought and she's a really, she's a really good shot. She was shooting. And she stopped after like 10 or 20. 12 pulls and she said, um, uh, dad,
Starting point is 01:56:27 I said, how are you doing, honey? And she said, I'm just, I'm freaked out. I'm, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 01:56:32 And I said, because it's a deadly weapon. She said, yes. And I said, well, a couple of examples. I'll share one.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Do you remember the first time you drove a car? How freaked out you were when you first drove a car? Because all of these things were happening and any of them you could either wreck the car, kill yourself or kill somebody else. Remember how freaked you were the first time you drove with people walking around your car? You were kind of in a crowd and you had to kind of drive through. Remember how freaked out you were?
Starting point is 01:57:08 You're not now because you have the experience with it. You know what you're doing. So you have to get past that. So after we were done, I took her to the gun store and, uh, and we all got guns. And she said, we were standing there looking at all of these weapons. And she said, Dad, what is the difference? I mean, look at that, look at that rifle.
Starting point is 01:57:36 What is that rifle? And I said, that's a modern sporting rifle. She said, no, no, no, the one that's black and has all this stuff. I said, yeah, it's a modern sporting rifle. she said no that one is a sporting rifle and it was a gun that was green you know and looked like an old rifle and I said what's the difference between those two I don't know and I said that's the media that is the media you know what the difference is brought the gun guy over you tell me the difference yeah the packaging you know this one has wood that one
Starting point is 01:58:20 one doesn't it it's all in the media scaring people on what these guns do and if you understand and you have the right attitude as she did and as my family does you should be afraid of guns they do kill that's why you have one in your hand you can talk about sports all you like and i am a sport shooter i love sport shooting but that's not why i have a gun that's why it's not in it's in the not for sports shooting. So you have a gun and that's what it is designed to do. And you should be afraid of it, but a healthy fear of it. That makes you responsible.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Right. There's a lot of irrational fear about guns. Right. I mean, you know, especially if you grow up, I mean, again, I grew up in the Northeast in Connecticut where guns are just not, you know, there's just not a lot of people have them. It's not really the culture there, at least where I lived. And it takes a long time for you to even think about, like, when you, you know, when you, you would see someone with a gun, it's so foreign to you in a giant chunks of the country, you know, where tens of millions of people live, they never see anyone carrying a gun.
Starting point is 01:59:33 No. And so when they see it, they freak out. We make fun of these people all the time that report, you know, individuals who with, that looks suspicious and they're just carrying a gun. Like, that's actually a right in the Constitution, but it's so foreign to so much of the country. And in some of the, in parts of the country, and they don't understand it. Parts of a country, somebody wearing a gun is like, that woman over there has a purse. Right. Right. Yeah. We're in Texas. Yeah. She's got a person. I bet she's got a gun in there as well.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Just be aware that these gun grabbers are after your gun. Common sense from from the right, from the left. There is no common sense anymore from the left. They're also studying reparations. Understand who you're dealing with. And quite honestly, if you're with City Group, why are you still with Citigroup? Any of these. companies that are banning voices or banning constitutional rights, what are you doing? Relief factor. If you are in constant pain, I want you to know you're not alone. If you have been suffering from neck or back or whatever it is, inflammation is the biggest key. And we eat so much crap that inflammation is a part of our life. And that just makes things so bad.
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Starting point is 02:02:13 Oh, my gosh. Reparations, 70% income tax, government-run drug companies, government-run medicine, the Green New Deal, the end of capitalism, kill a baby right after birth, officially deny God three times in your platform. I mean, the wealth tax? The wealth tax. What else could these people be for? We haven't even had a debate yet.
Starting point is 02:02:40 We're what, nine months away from this thing really being, I mean, being even close to, you know, going this primary, where they're all pushing each other's or the left? Can you imagine what they're going to be proposing in six months? When they're all coming after each other and trying to race to the left? I mean, this is insane. It's going to be incredible. This is insane.
Starting point is 02:03:02 And you know what? If the economy stumbles or Donald Trump, you know, stumbles somehow or another, and you know the media is going to be helping out. You know the media is going to be helping out. Can you imagine if these guys win? And they will target that 50, that filibuster immediately if they went to Senate. They will take that down to 50 votes and they will be able to pass all sorts of stuff. It is nuts. By the way, do you know who the number one news source, trusted news
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