The Glenn Beck Program - MAGA Goes Off on Pam Bondi's Hearing. Glenn Has Some Thoughts ... | Guests: Liz Wheeler & Alexandra Lavoie | 2/12/26

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Glenn discusses the worsening trend among politicians to run on arresting their political opponents. When politicians continue to run on jailing their opponents, it opens the door for a true authorita...rian to gain power. BlazeTV host of "The Liz Wheeler Show" Liz Wheeler joins to discuss the recent testimony given before Congress by Attorney General Pam Bondi over the government's handling of the Epstein files. Juno News managing editor Cosmin Dzsurdzsa joins to discuss what is being described as one of the deadliest mass shootings that has happened in recent history, which occurred in Canada. Glenn and Cosmin also discuss the downfall of Canada as progressivism has taken over the country. Rebel News reporter Alexandra Lavoie joins to share what she saw when she went under cover in Cuba. Glenn discusses the latest updates in the Fulton County, Georgia, election fraud investigation. Glenn discusses how the founding fathers might have handled the decision to regulate a technology that could disrupt society, such as AI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, gosh, we had a lot to talk about Pam Bondi yesterday in Washington. Also the El Paso thing. Something isn't exactly right there. I don't know what is happening. The House passed the Save America Act, thank God. So we at least got those guys. But they have the votes in the Senate. But John Thune is starting to look very wobbly.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Is he actually going to stand up? Or is he going to let the Democrats call for a 60-member vote? That's what's going to happen. If he doesn't use his position to do everything to hold the Republicans together and say, we're going to weather this storm. We're going to let them make this case for 30 days. But then we get the 50 vote, just simple majority, and they will win. Does he have the courage to do it?
Starting point is 00:04:12 I doubt it, but we will see. Also, there's a problem. I was at an event last night here in Florida. It was a fundraiser and a Freedom of Speech Award for real clear. And I'm sitting there and I'm talking to a bunch of friends and we're talking about if the Save America Act does not pass, we may never. win an election again. And if we don't win an election, these guys are crazy. I mean, it's a purge. I believe it's a purge that is coming. And it builds on something I talked to you about a couple of weeks ago called accelerationalism. Accelerationism is an ideology and a belief that says
Starting point is 00:05:13 society is corrupt beyond repair. Institutions are illegitimate. Chaos is a is an actual tool that should be used. Violence is the accelerant. And it is very dangerous. And we're seeing it happen. And I told you about this a few weeks ago when it started. The streets were on fire in Minneapolis. And I told you about what was happening. I want to add to that because what is now happening in our halls of Congress is the next step. And it's the last step. We should be very, very well aware of this. And so I'll bring you up to speed on that and all of the news of the day coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile.
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Starting point is 00:07:21 Okay, so accelerationism. The belief that everything needs to be burned down, that nothing is worth saving. And I told you that the key change in the last several years is that this is more connected than it ever has been. It's not more disciplined. It's not necessarily bigger in raw numbers, okay? but it is more connected. It's quickly mobilized now. It's well-financed.
Starting point is 00:07:53 More capable of spreading tactics and targets and narratives. Accelerationism. It's mainstream. And that changes the risk profile. The second fact of this, the line between protest and insurgent behavior is now being tested. I see up on the screen,
Starting point is 00:08:13 Tom Homan is now speaking. I think he's in Minneapolis. This is the administration, understanding perception versus reality, correcting it, telling Tom Holman, you know, put the giant stick in your back pocket for a minute, walk in and get this thing done. And he did. And he's changing perception, but he's still holding the line and getting it done. Protests are protected, even loud, offensive protests that make you furious, but not violent
Starting point is 00:08:44 ones, not ones where you're attacking, okay? Now let me add on to this a new set of facts Because for years we have told ourselves political violence was the danger Okay, Molotov cocktails, riots burning down cities, broken windows, etc., etc. And we've told ourselves that we can just stop the street chaos, the republic would be safe. That's a mistake. Because before violence really becomes common, something else has to happen first. Law has to be redefined.
Starting point is 00:09:16 not as a neutral constraint, but as a weapon to be aimed. And you're seeing it happen now. That's why you can't get people to be prosecuted in some states. They're using the law as a weapon. But it has gotten much worse than that. And you're hearing this, but I want to shape this here so you really hear what's going on. This week, a sitting member of Congress, Sri Fandar, he, he, he, he, leaned forward in a hearing and he told a federal law enforcement official, you better hope you get pardoned.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Wow. That's a threat. He didn't say, not, you know, you violated the law and you should be investigated. What he said was when power changes hands, we're going to punish you for enforcing the law. that distinction is everything. The moment the enforcement itself becomes criminalized retroactively, the rule of law does not merely weaken, it completely flips. The message is no longer follow the law.
Starting point is 00:10:32 The message becomes, guess who's going to be in charge later? You better act accordingly. That is not a democracy. That's a legitimacy war. And this is how accelerationism migrates from the streets into the state. It's no longer just mass protesters or some sort of anarchist group with a bunch of slogans. It's the core belief that is simpler and far more dangerous. The institutions are irredeemably corrupt, therefore breaking these institutions is justified in the streets.
Starting point is 00:11:13 that always turns into burn it down, but inside the government, and you're beginning to hear it now, it starts to sound like, and we'll deal with you later. That is nothing I have ever heard, ever, in my lifetime in America, and it should chill all of us to the bone.
Starting point is 00:11:36 When lawmakers openly promise prosecutions after elections, they're not talking about justice. They're signaling veto power, the rule by anticipation of punishment. Now, let's just say, let's call a spade of spade. Donald Trump said this, I'm going to put her in jail, lock her up, lock her up, lock her up. And everybody at that time took him seriously. And we told you, don't take him, don't take him literally, take him seriously. He'll be a law and order guy, but he's not going to lock her up.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Okay. Some people believed he would. He didn't. He didn't. They do believe it. Okay. You notice what follows because voices echo the same logic. Warnings that statutes of limitation are going to be used as countdown clocks. Public speculation about resurrecting prosecutions once political protection ends. You better be careful. you better hope the casual talk now and this is happening of Nuremberg-style trials for domestic opponents Nurenberg trials applause for the idea of
Starting point is 00:12:57 prosecuting the former regime at every level and anyone who was participating that means you that means me anybody who was on the side of the right you better look at
Starting point is 00:13:13 out because when we get power. This is not about one person. This is not about left versus right. This is about something far more corrosive. The normalization of the idea that power exists to punish the previous holder of power. You're a banana republic. History is really clear. Okay. In functioning republics, elections decide who governs. In failing republics, elections. Elections decide who gets immunity. Once that line is crossed, enforcement stops being about lawfulness and becomes about survival. Ask yourself what happens next. If you're a federal agent, do you enforce the law? Or do you hesitate? I mean, you have to calculate now who's in control of the DOJ in three years. I don't know what to do. This is what's happening. Listen to this. This is what is
Starting point is 00:14:16 happening in Iran. As the regime is collapsing, everybody who is working with the regime, all the police now have to decide, am I going to enforce what the regime says, or am I going to do the opposite because a new regime is coming in? Some of them don't want to be killed themselves, but are brave enough to say, I'm not going to do that. But this is an actual state that is rounding people up and killing them. When you kill 35,000 people in two weeks, that's a state where you should be saying, you better watch out because when we get in,
Starting point is 00:14:56 we will find you and there will be Nuremberg trials. Not this. Let me ask you if you're a prosecutor, do you apply statutes evenly or do you quietly protect yourself from future retaliation? If you're a citizen, do you trust the investigations or do you now assume that every indictment is political theater and that's it? We're in the laboratory phase right now.
Starting point is 00:15:24 There's no tanks. There's no coups. Just hesitation. There's going to be growing fear and selective action. One selective enforcement takes root. The street movements learn super fast. They already have. I'm not going to be prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I can burn the city down. I'm not going to be prosecuted. and then they begin to realize I don't need majority support. I don't even need persuasion. I only need to make enforcement so dangerous, legally, politically, reputationalally, physically. I just need to make it so dangerous that if officers actually enforce the law, they risk getting killed by a mob in the streets. or if prosecutors act, they risk career death and actual death.
Starting point is 00:16:17 If judges rule, you're going to be delegitimized. So the enforcement slows down. Then it fragments. Then it becomes discretionary. Isn't our law really quite discretionary right now? You're not a country if you have discretionary laws. And when the law becomes optional, intimidation becomes rational. And this is how republics fall in a quiet recalibration of fear.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And at that point, violence doesn't need to be widespread. It only needs to be understandable. That is the most dangerous word in politics. Listen, have you heard this? Well, I don't like it, but I understand why they're doing it. Just make it understandable. Well, I don't support threats, but look at what the other side is doing. It's understandable.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Well, this is what happens when institutions fail. It's understandable. Understandable is the permission slip. And history teaches that early phases, the one we're in right now, is the decisive one. No, they are in the streets. I can understand why they are angry, but that does not exclude. excuse them of this behavior and they must pay the price. Right now, that's not what's being said.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's just understandable. And when prosecutions are still selective, but being promised, it begins to sound like a threat. When threats are still rhetorical, are they being normalized? Yes. And that's when recruitment accelerate. That's when copycats appear everywhere.
Starting point is 00:18:22 That's when everyone starts preparing for the worst, and the preparation itself becomes the engine of collapse. This has to be this, man, this has to stop. Because you're not going to get freedom, you're going to get fractional justice. And it's going to flip until, as I told you, we will swing so wildly back and forth until the real authoritarian steps up and says,
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is going to stop, and they grab power. And when they grab power, they stop the vote from counting. We're there. Understand the Save Act? You're going to get cycles of revenge dressed up as accountability. You're going to get bureaucrats who answer not to the law, but to future protection. You get citizens that withdraw because speaking the truth is too dangerous. Silence is much easier and much safer.
Starting point is 00:19:26 just go along to get along, don't say anything. And eventually, you get a country where elections no longer settle disputes, they just decide who gets prosecuted next. That's not America. And I don't think that's an America that the people I know who vote differently than me, that they want that either. But it will be America if we keep pretending that this is normal. It is not normal.
Starting point is 00:19:57 The antidote is not rage. It's not denial either. It's not cheering when your enemies are threatened. The antidote is one standard applied to everyone in daylight. No retroactive criminalization of lawful enforcement. No moral licensing for intimidation. No euphemisms when power is being wielded through fear. Because the only thing is stronger than anger on the street,
Starting point is 00:20:24 stronger than an activist mob, stronger than politicized bureaucracy is a public that believes the law is still real. I believe it's still real. Fight for that America. Wake up and don't let others slumber. The Republic is indeed at stake. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:25:57 that's why I gave Pambandi a year. I will lend enough trust that the president of the president and says, would you trust me on this? Yes. Until I start to believe that this is actually hurting the guy I trust Donald Trump. And I think Pam Bondi is hurting Donald Trump. Pam Bondi is sitting in the most important position for Donald Trump's voters. And here's why. It's not about Epstein. I mean, that was part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:27 But also another part of it was look at what they did to Donald Trump when he left office. Look at how corrupt that was. I want that cleaned up so that can never happen again. I want people to pay for what they did if, if crimes were committed and can be proven in a court of law. Okay. But this was also about the grandmas that got scooped up on September, I mean on January 6th. This is also, you know, about the guys. who did the Hillary meme, the people with a face act.
Starting point is 00:27:06 This is about Donald Trump and how he was treated all the way down. He said it himself over and I'll go, if they can do this to me, you don't think they're going to do it to you, and they were doing it. So that's why this role is so incredibly important to his base. And perception is reality. I can't tell you what's going on with Pam Bondi. I don't know what's going on. But the perception is she is a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:39 She's not getting the job done. Don't know what the truth is. But Mr. President, this is not a hill worth dying on. You've already done this with the DHS. You saw the perception versus the reality. I know what the reality is in Minnesota. You do too. And it's one thing to just go, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 00:28:01 it's another to go, we're going to lose this war if I keep fighting on this hill. Send Tom Homan in. Homan is just as strong as anybody you have. And look at, you changed the game. You're doing it with a rant. You keep doing it over and over again, but you're not doing it here. And I think it's because you're very, very loyal to people. And that is a great trait to have.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But yesterday she crossed the Rubicon. yesterday when my wife says what the hell is going on my wife does not do that when my wife went what is this she crossed the rubicon and here's what she became she reminded her testimony reminded me of this moment when somebody else testified years ago and you'll remember it this is pam bondi yesterday in millions of americans heads not on our time no way and i told you you about that attorney general before you started. You don't tell me. Yeah, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. Lawyer, not even a lawyer. Maybe we'll be in a- Stop. Stop. Stop. Who's right? Who's wrong? I don't care. Hear that? I've heard it before. Play the clip on Hillary, please.
Starting point is 00:29:19 With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? That was Pambonda yesterday. Let me bring Liz Wheeler in. Liz? Hi, Glenn. How did it go yesterday?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Listen, it's boring to hear those two clips juxtaposed together to hear Pam Bondi yesterday and after watching her all day and wishing her well. I wanted her to be successful. I want the Trump administration to be successful. My concern with
Starting point is 00:30:04 Attorney General Pambundi was never about her personality, never about her personally, never about her demeanor. We witnessed something that we knew was true, Glenn, yesterday in the House of Representatives, that Democrats are very bad people. They're bad faith actors. They are insincere. They don't want justice because they had a chance to pursue justice when they were in power during the Biden administration and they didn't do it. They are grandstanding now. And I don't care what they have to say. At the same time, Pam Bondi has not been transparent. She has not been honest about the Epstein files, which I know that's what the hearing was about to a lot of Trump's base. This is much bigger than the Epstein files. And she owes the American people answers. And she
Starting point is 00:30:52 did not provide those answers yesterday. The thing that's most important to Trump space, Glenn, is her record, her record on all of the big things that you mentioned. I mean, deep state swamp creatures tried to take out our duly elected president, the man that we chose to serve as commander in chief. We sent President Trump to the White House because we trust him and we want him to fight for us. And the deep state had the audacity to look at us and say, we think you are wrong and bad and we're going to use, we're going to weaponize the government to try to take this man out and to turn the government against you. Glenn, to describe the basis. his feelings is almost impossible because we are so hungry for that justice for President Trump
Starting point is 00:31:39 and for ourselves, for the Ukraine impeachment, for the wrongdoing during COVID that were inflicted on us, for when we dared to question the 2020 presidential election, which I think we all know the truth about at this point, if we do not see justice served from the Department of Justice now, the urgency, the clock is ticking. We are already. down to just 75% of the Trump administration left. And the radical leftists have told us what they're going to do if and when they take power again. It was just a week or two ago on the Breakfast Club when Charlemagne said, you remember denazification when every former Nazi was prosecuted?
Starting point is 00:32:23 Well, when we're back in power, there's going to be a demagification. Glenn, we feel urgency. We need this justice. This is why we voted for President Trump. trust him to fulfill this. And Pam Bondi is failing him and failing us. And you mentioned one of President Trump's qualities, best qualities is how loyal he is. And I second that. His loyalty doesn't just extend to Pam Bondi and members of his administration. It extends to his base who have been so loyal to him. And we are very concerned seeing zero indictments from Bondi as AG.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And I think, you know, for the American people don't have, and I think a lot of his base, they don't have the long-term vision to understand what he's doing to the rest of the world, how he has reshaped the entire world in a year. He's reshaping it. And I don't think they're going to understand that for another five years. Okay. But on this particular issue, they are not looking at today. They are looking at, What does this mean in four years or three years from now? We've got to have this fixed now because it's going to be very bad if we don't fix it. I can't tell you the number of people who have said, God help us the day Trump leaves. God help us because he's able to juggle bowling balls, flaming swords, chainsaws and kittens all at once. and he seems to be able, I don't know anybody else that can do that. I don't know anybody else that can do that. And he's got to fix this one because he's right about Save America Act.
Starting point is 00:34:08 If we don't pass that, we don't win another election. That has to be done. But also, if you don't fix the Justice Department, if that's not, if that is allowed to remain weaponized, you're you you you lose one election and everybody goes to jail i mean it's it's it's it's extraordinarily dangerous and i think americans understand the save america act and they understand the importance of pam bondi's role and it perception is reality i don't know what the reality is with pam bondi um she looks very incompetent to me and yesterday unfortunately she looked arrogant and dismissive, and it was not good. It was not good.
Starting point is 00:34:56 She, you know, Liz, name the people that you have seen that have tried to emulate Donald Trump and tried to pull off what Donald, only Donald Trump can pull off that are successful. No one. He's a unicorn. And she tried to be Donald Trump yesterday. And only Donald Trump can be Donald Trump. With her, it looked really bad, looked really bad. It did. And I think the perception is reality point is really important. I ran a poll on my social media last night because if you were scrolling on X or on Facebook, you saw how many people care about this. Pam Bondi has been trending top on all of these social media platforms because the American people people care deeply about this. And I ran a poll on my account asking about people's feelings about Pam Bondi. Is it time for her to go? Do we, you know, do we wait longer, give her more chances? And Glenn, over 70, 25% of people said it's time for her to go. And you know my audience. We have a wide demographic, but it's mostly very loyal Trump supporters and Republicans and conservative. These are the people that want President Trump to be successful. They want justice for all these wrongdoings.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And they sit here like you and me wondering if on day one of the next Democrat administration, if we are all going to be censored and silenced and prosecuted and thrown in jail because we were vocally supportive of the Trump administration, just like the parents who spoke out against critical race theory and had the FBI go after them during the Biden administration, the Catholics who were labeled extremists, the pro-lifers who were thrown in jail for praying, the journalists at Project Veritas who were handcuffed because of crack of dawn raids by the FBI because they had the audacity to investigate Ashley Biden's diary, the white people who face discrimination under corrupt DEI practices, all of these things.
Starting point is 00:36:49 are going to happen day one of the next administration. If we don't, to use a phrase of the president, who is the most consequential president in American history, if we do not drain the swamp. We can't just move past it and enact good policies. We have to go back and make sure that justice is served for the crimes that were committed against us. Actual justice.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't want a mob. I don't want people just rounded up. I want actual justice. That's what I want. I think that's what America wants. Liz, thank you so much. Liz Wheeler. You can find her at Blaze
Starting point is 00:37:24 and also you can follow her, just Liz Wheeler. She, you know, the Trump has the best counsel around him. I have never seen a cabinet this good, ever. It's better than the team of rivals, I believe, around Lincoln. I believe this could rival
Starting point is 00:37:50 when Washington had Hamilton, and Jefferson and Madison and Adams all in the cabinet. Okay. That's, that is the best cabinet I've ever seen. I think this is equal to that or on that same, uh, plane the minds and the talent that are around him.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And every single one of them is knocking it out of the park, just knocking it out of the park. Marco Rubio said to me, I said, what happened to you, Marco? I said, I love you. But, you know, there's sometimes that, you know, we've had disagreements with each other. I said, what has happened? I said,
Starting point is 00:38:26 you're killing it. And he said, it's him. And he pointed to the Oval Office. He said, it's him. We just follow him. He has massive foresight and he's telling us what to do and we're doing it. I don't know what is happening with Pam Bondi. And the same thing with Christy Nome. And he's already making moves to correct what was happening with the DHS. He's got to move on this. He's got to move on this. Yesterday was a very bad day. And I wish I wasn't saying it, but sorry, that's the truth. All right. Back in a minute, let me tell you about the Burna Launcher. You don't get to schedule the moment when something feels wrong, a situation that shifts from
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Starting point is 00:42:35 And it may just have been around a golf, but I'm actually hoping that maybe Ron is going to be called in. I would like to see him as the attorney general, although, well, no, I think he's very, he's just very good. You know, you watch the people who are called up to the hill. And I've just never seen a group of, you know, people in the cabinet, they are just like, they're just, they have just a massive shield around them. They know how to handle it. They know how to handle it. And, and Pam Bondi just does not.
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Starting point is 00:46:19 journalist managing editor, actually, of the Juno News. They're the first ones to actually come out and identify this crazy shooter, crazy shooter, one of the deadliest mass shootings in modern history, and that does not happen in Canada. They have all kinds of gun control, etc., etc. what they don't have anymore is an ability to speak the truth and an ability to actually their government to take blame for the things that they, I believe, are directly responsible for in this case. And I'll make that case here in just a second. But first I want to talk to the journalists and take you through the entire story here because it's shocking and horrifying. And more of it will come. More of it will come if we don't actually stand up and
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Starting point is 00:48:46 that would have been Tuesday night. Essentially, I was able to get in touch with Jesse Strang. He's now been identified with his legal name Jesse Van Routtseller. But I got in touch with his uncle, Russell, and his uncle Russell confirmed to me three basic facts. first that Jesse was in fact the shooter, that he was Jesse's uncle and the brother of Jennifer Strang, who was Jesse's mother and she was also killed alongside her son, which was Jesse's stepbrother, who Jesse seemed to have murdered in their residence in Tumblr Ridge.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And then the third fact that he confirmed to me was that Jesse was transgender. Let me play how the Canadian press and the police did everything they could to not truly identify this, this shooter. Listen to this. Cut one. That includes the deceased gun person. Okay. And then separately, do you know the gun person's relationship to the gun person? I've never heard that term before. The gun person.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And then once somebody said, excuse me, in this transgender, they turned the press conference into this nightmare of we identify people the way they want to be identified. And, you know, we don't we don't take to this bigotry in so many words here in Canada. And it's like, wait, that's not what this story is about. This story is not about guns or anything else. It's about somebody who is mentally unwell. And that may have played a role. Cosman, tell me about the atmosphere that you live in where nobody seems to think this is a problem or had anything to do with the shooting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:55 In fact that this individual was sick, had a lot of mental issues, but also was very heavily into the, the transgender movement. So now with the picture is emerging that Jesse had all sorts of, you know, social media activity involved in all sorts of communities where he discussed his transition at a very young age. I believe he started his transition when he was around 12 years old. So he was also seeking hormone treatment. So like changing his, his hormones to represent, to present more female, you know, prevent puberty, etc. So there was definitely an involvement in like pharmaceuticals. He was seeking out therapy.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And the police knew about Jesse because he had a troubling background. He incidents of violence, the police showed up. You know, there was weapons on the premises. They took those weapons. They returned the weapons at some point. But it's all over the place. You look online, Jesse's, the, the picture that's emerging of Jesse is a very troubled kid who was also into this transgender
Starting point is 00:52:21 community and spent a lot of time online discussing these things and like I said the media and the police have bent themselves backwards trying to avoid talking about this and the reason is because in Canada we actually added human rights protections to Human Rights Act, essentially protecting gender expression. So the police, the media are required to, you know, address even killers by their preferred pronouns. And you see it in these press conferences. The commissioner, the deputy commissioner of the RCMP, the RCMP is the federal police force in Canada, essentially like the FBI in the United States, is insisting that people use Jesse's female pronouns. You look at headlines all over the place are calling him a
Starting point is 00:53:16 female shooter. It's outrageous. Glenn. So let me just read something that he posted in 23 on Reddit. Hi, I kind of need help. Suicidal thoughts, I guess. I'm 15 years old trying to get HRT for my transition. As of right now, I've been on a six-month wait list for visiting a specialist in Prince George for a month now. I'm from British Columbia, and I live in a very rural area. I'm noticing heavy changes my appearance every month. By the time I'm actually able to visit, I may have severe damage from testosterone changing my body.
Starting point is 00:53:50 This is extremely stressful. The weight alone makes me want to die. The uncertainty, not knowing how the HRT will even affect me, not knowing if I'll ever be me, but add to it the slow degradation of my body in front of my very eyes, awaiting this appointment. It hurts. I'm genuinely considering taking my own life. Is there any way, literally any way possible I can speed this process up?
Starting point is 00:54:13 I think another reason why your press doesn't want to talk about this and your government doesn't want to talk about this is this again is a failure of the Canadian healthcare system. Here's a guy clearly needing help and can't get in to see a doctor. So, I mean, you have, nobody wants to talk about the ideological issues because you can't anymore because of speech control. Nobody wants to talk about the corruption of medicine and this gender dysphoria, nonsense that we have trapped people into
Starting point is 00:54:45 where you can't say it's all affirmative, it's got to all be affirmative, and you've got the failure of health care. And what are they going to do? They're going to turn this into a gun thing instead of actually looking at the real problem. Is there any of that that makes sense to you, Cosman as a Canadian?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Well, it doesn't make sense. No. And it's troubling watching this. I mean, we had Juneau News report on this stuff all of the time, but the legacy media decides to completely ignore it to call all this stuff like hoaxes and disinformation, disinformation, misinformation, you have to realize, Glenn, that Canadians at large,
Starting point is 00:55:26 the ones who are tuned into the establishment media, are fed a constant stream of pro-gender ideology, propaganda, pro-liberal government messaging all of the time. That's why we see, you know, Prime Minister Mark Carney have huge amounts of support among the Canadian public. According to recent polls, Canadians are fed this diet of propaganda and do not have access to, you know, alternative or independent media coverage like they do in the United States, unfortunately, at least to the same extent.
Starting point is 00:56:04 So yeah, you really see this. And I would like to mention that British Columbia is really ground zero for a lot of this transgender stuff. It was a few years ago that they actually threw a father in jail because he objected to his child's, his daughter's medical gender transition, putting her on puberty blockers. And they threw him in jail for contempt of court because he continued to refer to his daughter as a she as his daughter. as his daughter, right? Is there any talk about SSRIs or hallucinogens or anything else that this kid was taught? I mean, is anybody talking about the possibility of even that playing a role? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So those that are emerging with drugs, you know, he talks about using psilocybin mushrooms. He talks about using DMT, dimethyl-tryptamine. He talks about using other drugs and seeking medical concoctions to treat all of his various psychological issues. So it definitely played a role. Now, was he on drugs at the time of the shooting? We're not sure. We haven't seen a toxicology report or anything indicate that.
Starting point is 00:57:32 How is this going to end? I mean, how do you see this? Is anybody going to wake up to anything in Canada because of it? this. Unfortunately, the way I think this is going to go is because of the way the media and the police have bungled this issue and have completely made fools of themselves to the general public. And I think to the world, they're going to try to forget about this and bury this story as quickly as possible and move on. Secondly, I think the liberal government, based on past decisions and behaviors are going to use this to further clamp down on law-abiding citizens who own firearms.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So essentially, former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau introduced what's called an order in council, which is a form of executive order in the parliamentary system. It's a little bit different, but he banned about 1,000 different types of firearms. Now, these firearms aren't generally used in crimes. A lot of them are just used for sports shooting, hunting, etc. But he just did this blanket ban, and they're in the process of enforcing a federal gun grab, although I will say that police throughout the country
Starting point is 00:58:54 are refusing to do the dirty work for the government, but they're essentially doing what they call a buyback program, but it's a federally enforced gun grab and they have a grace period and once that grace period ends, if you own any of these 1,000 firearms, which you actually purchased legally, responsibly, and they can pursue charges against you for owning these guns. So I think based on the weapons that were used, we know there was a modified handgun. I'm not sure what the modifications were, whether those actually were already. rifles used as well.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I think they're going to push SKS, which is, I believe, in consultation for a ban, they're going to go further with their on people's rights. Cosman, I look at the world, I look at America, and I think we are on the edge. And we're in real trouble.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Freedom is on the ropes. But then I look to Europe and England and frankly Canada. and I see you guys just on the very edge. Do the Canadian people feel that way at all? Does anybody really awake there? Yeah, Glenn, I definitely think there are people who are awake and who are aware of what's going on in the direction. Yeah, but like I said, it is the constant stream of propaganda that most people are fed.
Starting point is 01:00:45 and it's quite complicated because a lot of this has to do with the way the media is funded. So a vast majority of the main media companies in Canada take government subsidies. So in the last decade, the federal government has created all these plans, all these schemes, to fund the media directly, which creates a huge problem of transparency and accountability and the ability for the media to actually remain objective as they claim to be when they're not, when they're accepting federal money to ensure their existence because on their own, they can't survive. These legacy media companies are going under.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Their stocks are plunging. And the only lifeline they have is the government redistributing taxpayer money. And on top of that, we have the CBC. We fund taxpayers fund the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the federal. Corporation, the public broadcaster, which is a Crown Corporation, meaning of federal government organization, to the tune of $1.4 billion every year. And they couldn't even get this story right. It took, you know, at least 24 hours for them to come out with the name of the shooter, to identify the shooter, when independent media like us, we were already on top of it like
Starting point is 01:02:09 the night before. Unbelievable. Cosman, thank you for everything that you do. You're one of the great journalists and journalism outlets in Canada. Anything we can ever do to help you continue to stand. You just let us know. Thank you. Thanks, Glenn. Appreciate it.
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Starting point is 01:04:59 They want to just keep saying the gender ID, gender ID. We got to make sure that we're giving the right pronoun. Well, here's the right pronoun. I'll give you two options, Canada. deeply mentally disturbed. That's a pronoun you can apply. And it will mean something. The other pronoun you could apply is evil.
Starting point is 01:05:24 It doesn't, by not saying that this is somebody that was in transition, you block all of the facts of what that kid was going through, what the changes in his own body, the drugs, the inability of your own health care system to help somebody who said at 15, I'm deeply mentally disturbed. I'm thinking about killing myself. If you're unwilling to define mental illness, you're going to see more and more of these. And it's sad because I love Canada.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I grew up 45 miles south of the Canadian border, just right in British Columbia. British Columbia is beautiful, absolutely beautiful. The people or the culture is great. I mean, it's just great. Now unfortunately it's turned into Seattle. Cascadia, Pacific Northwest is coming your way. And if you need to ask what Cascadia is and you live in the Pacific Northwest, probably too late to save you. But you should look it up. But that's this utopia that is so twisted in its, in its ideal. that it'll be deadly for a lot of people. And you're seeing it happen and play out right now this week in British Columbia. More than a minute. Let me tell you about relief factor. Some pain announces itself, you know, you know exactly what you did. You know why you're sore.
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Starting point is 01:08:26 So Cuba is, Donald Trump's trying to collapse Cuba, and he just might do it. He has put an oil embargo on Cuba that is shutting everything down planes. I mean, Russian planes aren't going. Nobody is going to Cuba because they don't have the fuel to refuel the jets and to run their society. It's going to be really, really nasty. I'm going to go back up to Canada here for another story because our media, I think they just agree with Mark. So they never cover what's happening in Cuba. And when they do, it's like, have you seen their health care?
Starting point is 01:09:02 It's wonderful. It's free. Yeah. Have you seen their health care? Anyway. And the only company up in Canada, there's only a handful that would do a story and show you the truth and go down and actually reveal what the average people are saying and doing is Rebel News, good friends up in Canada.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Canadians, so you know, look at Cuba as a place to go for cheap vacations. You know, and they stay in these resorts and they're not, nobody's talking to them about, you know, socialism and you don't see it. You don't see it. You see this, oh my gosh, remember what was her name, Kardashian was like, I just love Cuba. They've kept all these old cars. Yeah, is that what they did, Kim? They just kept them because they thought they were quaint. Oh my gosh, what an idiot. Anyway, the, the author of this report that is, is out right now. It just came out, I think, last week called.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Let me see. Where is it? Truth About Cuba. You can get a Truth About Cuba.com. Is Alexandria Levois. I'm not French, and I butcher names, so I hope I have that right, Alexandra. Welcome to the program. Thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah. Okay, you don't have to laugh that hard. I mean, I know it's funny. No, I'm sorry. It's just because every single people. I know, I know. All right. So tell me about what you've experienced in Canada
Starting point is 01:10:36 and what the people of Cuba actually said. Yeah. This is something that is different with the U.S. cannot really travel for vacation in Cuba. But for Canadian, this is one of the most important vacation place. I would say, I think for just Quebecers, because I'm French
Starting point is 01:11:04 Canadian, we represent more than 40% of tourism in Cuba. So that is a really important part. And a lot of them, they are traveling over there, they have no clue of what is happening outside of
Starting point is 01:11:20 resorts. They think that they are going over there, they are spending their money and by doing this, they are helping the people over there. But no, that's not a reality because the money that is actually going into the resort, into the hotels are not going to the people over there. There is two reality on the ground in Cuba. There is the hotel and government workers, and there is the other. The hotel workers and the government workers,
Starting point is 01:11:54 workers. Obviously, they are pro-regime. They are supporting what is happening because they are the ones that are the richer. They can go to markets, buy everything that they want. There is no problem. But on the other side, you have like doctors, teachers that cannot even afford having eggs and meat. They literally have nothing. The grocery store, the drugs, store, they are all empty for those people. They have access to absolutely nothing. And you can see that capitalism is good when it comes to the regime, but when it comes to the normal people, they apply communism. Literally, they have to beg into the street after they finish working because they cannot even like give milk to the kids.
Starting point is 01:12:54 We actually went there. We filmed this quickly, so most of the people didn't know that we were filming them when they were talking with us. They showed us around. They brought us inside of their home. They actually explained exactly how life is in Cuba. And I did travel a lot in my life, okay? I traveled for more than 10 years. I've been to more than 70 countries.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I can tell you that Cuba, it's one of the poorest country I visit in my life and the most dirty at the moment because garbages are just peeling up because the regime is saying that they don't have fuel to go and pick the garbage up. So what is the average person telling you about, you know, what Trump is doing or the U.S. pressure? Is that a good thing or bad thing? What are they, how are they perceiving this? Most of them, they are waiting for U.S. help. They want it. They won foreign intervention. They say that they cannot do it by themselves
Starting point is 01:14:13 because speaking out against the regime, it's five to ten years in prison, going to 30 years, depending of what you're saying. So they are not going to rise up. Literally, they are just waiting that something will happen as Venezuela. Because they knew that by doing something to Venezuela, that will directly impact them because of the fuel, because of lots of different things. And when I mentioned Donald Trump, there is so many people literally started smiling and
Starting point is 01:14:51 say how much they love that man and how much like they are waiting for something. I was kind of surprised that some people say that they want Marco Rubio as president. Yeah. They are aware of what is happening and they are literally requesting help from the United States. So international flights are starting to be canceled. What happens next, do you think? I think more and more will receive more pressure. I saw this morning that Russia is planning to send fuel and oil in Cuba.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I don't know if the United States will let that happen since they are pressuring all Latin America countries to not send anything to Cuba. Because what the U.S. wants to do, they want to have a discussion and an agreement. of region change and also to reopen the market in Cuba. And by letting foreigners like Russia or China interfering with that, I don't think this is going to go well. What is the perception of America in Canada, you know, the things that we're doing? I mean, you know, many of us here in America see how he is reshaping the world. and honestly, they're going to build statues of this guy in all of these countries that are suddenly war-free or free for the first time.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And in America, you know, he'll be lucky to have a street corner named after him and probably in places like Canada too because they just, you know, he's just been made into a dictator. What is the perception of us and him in Canada right now? But you need to know that I think Canada is a country who has the highest level of people suffering from derangement syndrome. There is so many people who literally freaked out when they hear about Donald Trump or anything that is doing. Without actually looking at the action, they are just looking at the man itself and what is saying. Obviously, like sometimes he's making joke about Canada, so you need to not like jump to the conclusion right away. But there's some people that cannot differentiate in between jokes and what is just saying. Obviously, there is a part of Canada with supporting what the U.S. is doing, especially with the regime change in Iran, regime change in Cuba.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Venezuela, but there is some people really, like, hate profoundly than that Trump. And this is mainly because of the mainstream media. We have the same problem. We have, like, really leftist media is being paid by the government, so they are being subsidized by the government. 99% of our media is being subsidized in all kind of form of subsidies. but yeah there is some people who are supporting Trump and there is some people really hate him profoundly and especially with like Minnesota and what happened with ICE and and I would say like Canada is
Starting point is 01:18:31 turning into like we need what Donald Trump is doing in the US because Canada would be lost in a couple of years from now our immigration is out of control. Crime rates is just rising rapidly. There's so many stuff that is happening in Canada, so many fraud, corruption,
Starting point is 01:18:57 and we need to do something like as soon as possible. I have actually a really huge story that's coming up exposing terrorist link people living in Montreal. So stay tuned for that.
Starting point is 01:19:13 But yeah, it's something that we have now in our street and we need to deal with it because some of them receive citizenship. We just don't know who are these people. And instead of looking at our own problem, no, they look at in the U.S. and they freaked out about what Donald Trump is saying. But they close the blind eyes on what is happening in Canada. This is a reality of Canadian that doesn't care about their own country. They just care about what your president is saying. Alexandra, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Thanks for all your reporting and everything you guys do at Rebel News. We really appreciate it. I don't think we would know what was really going on in Canada without you. Thank you. You can follow her on Twitter or at X. The voice Alexa and website is RebelNews.com. You can specifically see this. I mean, I don't know of anybody who's at.
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Starting point is 01:22:03 Preborn.com slash back. Sponsored by Preborn. Glenn Beck is back after this. Thank you so much for listening. At glenbeck.com slash contest, you will hear a couple of songs. You'll hear this one in French. It's an original piece written from the point of view of somebody who is honest in France, sees what is happening in their own country,
Starting point is 01:22:54 and looks at the Statue of Liberty and says, Mother, wake your children, remind them who they are, to stand up and be brave. And then there's another song about Ellis Island and about why people came here in the first place. They came to be Americans. They came for the hope. Here's a little piece of this.
Starting point is 01:23:20 This is a male and female duet. This is called They Came for the Hope. And it's a duet. And we would love to have people try out. You can try out for the male or female or if you're already a duet. All you have to do is go to glenbeck.com slash contest. This is going to be performed. Both of these songs will be performed live at Ellis Island.
Starting point is 01:24:05 I wish I could give you the details. Hopefully I'll be authorized to give you details on what exactly is happening that night. But this is a massive night. And I wanted to, look, I can hire people to come and sing this. But I would rather, you know, my whole, if you will, last phase of my, career is to empower you. I want to empower people. I want you to know, I mean, I wrote down today, do not, do not doubt that God hears you. You were chosen. He loves you and he is answering your prayers right now. I wrote that down and usually I don't put something at the top of my list of things just to remind me of you and what I think you need to hear through prayer. And I don't know if that means it. Maybe it's for you. He's answering your prayers right now.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I was so moved by that today, but I want to empower people. And so I want somebody from the audience that has the ability to sing and wants the opportunity to sing. This is one of the biggest opportunities you will be able to have. Just go to blendbeck.com slash contest, send it to somebody who you know can just knock it out of the park and have them apply and audition online. All the details are there. It's happening again. May 1st, we start judging people for this contest next week. So apply now. When we talk about America turning 250 years old, the real story isn't just in the history books. It's in the people who got up before the sun, did the hard work, kept the country fed throughout every kind of storm that we might have faced.
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Starting point is 01:27:53 right or wrong, black or white. But most of the time, life is not about right or wrong. It's about right versus almost right. And if you keep making the almost right decisions and keep choosing almost right, in the end, it becomes wrong and black and white again. And we're going down that almost right road. We've been going down for a long time. And that's why some things are so clear to some people.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Because it's back down to right and wrong, good versus evil. But my job is to try to help you understand the right versus almost right, as well as right versus wrong, as I try to figure it out myself. So let me take you through a couple of stories. here and see if we can figure them out together. One is a 250-page report from the election oversight group that's been examining what's happening in Fulton County, Georgia. And, you know, I know this has been in the news, but I went through the whole report. And what it describes is it goes way beyond clerical errors. And we've got to get this one right. So we're going to go there in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Rough Greens. Most,
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Starting point is 01:30:35 from election oversight group. The reason why I want to talk to you about this today is because of what happened with Pam Bondi yesterday. And I honestly, I need some new insight on this, because I just don't know where to go with this Pam Bondi thing. Because I thought, it was not good yesterday. I just don't think she's capable of fixing the errors that have just piled up. And we have to fix the DOJ. It must be fixed because there's too many important things that are riding on it. One thing that they are doing that is right is the Fulton County, Georgia situation with the election of 2020.
Starting point is 01:31:19 The morning after the election, that's just to remind you, Georgia's Secretary of State went on national television and said 4.7 million votes had been cast. He said only about 2% remained to be counted, which is roughly 94,000 ballots. And he said at this moment, the margin is decisive. Even suggested if one candidate won 100% of all of the outstanding votes, it's not going to change the outcome. but when the final tally first came in, the total wasn't 4.7 million votes that had been cast. It was 5.023 million. Okay, wait, wait, what?
Starting point is 01:32:04 And in Fulton County alone, the absentee ballots reportedly rose from 74,000 to more than 148,000 between election night and final certification. where did that come from? And that's why this shift happened, reversed the apparent outcome of the state, and that's why Donald Trump was like, wait a minute, cheating is going on. The report now states,
Starting point is 01:32:35 no known explanation has been provided to justify the surge. Pause. If the numbers changed by that magnitude, after officials publicly declare with near final certainty, then again, we've got to get it right. Not almost right. We need it right.
Starting point is 01:33:00 We don't need defensiveness, dismissal. We need clarity. The report then goes into the chain of custody. Okay, listen to this. Investigators found that 148,000 absentee ballots were accepted and counted without first performing mandatory signature verification. Tens of thousands allegedly arrived at State Farm Arena in unsecured mail carts. Wait, what? Do you know what chain of custody is? Chain of custody is really important. It's not a
Starting point is 01:33:38 partisan phrase. It is a basic legal principle. Chain of custody comes into play a lot of times in criminal trials, also financial audits, when you gather evidence, you have to know who had that evidence. That's one of the problems with the Epstein files. What's the chain of custody? You had all the evidence whose hands were on that. You have to know. And if the chain of custody breaks, then you can't rely on that being reliable anymore. You can't count that as reliable information because you don't know how it got from this place to the next place. The next thing they found was the missing tabulator tapes. This is really important because election law requires daily zero tapes.
Starting point is 01:34:30 What that means is it is a check to prove the machine starts at zero. It requires closing tapes to document the total at the day's end. Okay. So it proved it was at zero and then it proves that this is the number of votes that came in. According to testimony cited in the report, more than 100 required tabulator tapes representing about 315,000 early votes weren't signed or weren't signed properly. State investigators say they couldn't locate the required zero tapes for early voting on many machines. What? You can't what? Now, the report concludes that the statute requires accounting and chain of custody records, but they don't exist in the entirety of early voting.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Okay, well, that's a really big failure. Then the last problem is the math problem. The math problem, the county records reportedly show. 148,318 absentee ballots counted. Yet, again, this is going to be hard to do. I'm going to give you time so you can work out the math on this. You had only 125,785 voters. 148,000 voters, the votes cast,
Starting point is 01:36:12 but only 125,000 people show. showed up to vote. So what? That's a pretty big gap. More than 22,000 ballots in a race that was decided by 11,779 votes. After multiple certifications, the counts didn't match one another. Now, here's where this becomes serious way beyond politics. Philip Stark, he does, he does stats. He's from Berkeley. So I would say he's probably not a conservative. He came in and he reviewed all of the aspects of the process. Here's what he didn't do. He didn't say this is widespread fraud, but he did say there are real reasons to distrust the election outcome. He found machine counts and audit tallies disagreed substantially, even about the number of ballots that were cast.
Starting point is 01:37:18 He wrote that some ballots, listen to this, appeared to be included at least twice in the original counts and multiple times in recounts. He warned that unreliable ballot marking devices could make recounts a little more than security theater. Those are his words, security theater. That's a little devastating. to the trust in the Republic and our vote. Because here's the truth.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Republicans don't crash when one side loses. Republicans collapse when half the country believes the referee is unreliable. And that's what's happening. We don't believe the referee. This is why the position of Pam Bondi is so important. And she seems to be doing a good job on this one. because historically 1876, this, I mean, we just recovered from the civil war and we almost lost the union post-Civil War in 1876, Tammany Hall, New York. It operated on ballot manipulation, reformers came in and they forced structural transparency because it was all garbage, all of it, and everybody knew it.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Nations in Latin America, Eastern Europe, why do they spiral out of control? Because their ballot was imperfect? No. They spiral out of control because the citizens lose faith and trust that ballots even mattered. The flame of liberty. To have a flame, you need oxygen. Confidence is the oxygen that brings the flame of liberty to life. Without it, everything suffocates. This is why the Fulton County thing matters so much. It's not about proving somebody right or proving somebody wrong. It's not about relitigating personalities.
Starting point is 01:39:23 I mean, they actually said to Donald Trump, what difference does it make? It's not going to change the election. No, it's not. But we must know what happens. So it doesn't happen again. Are people this stupid? I think not.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And then I go out and I talk to some people and I'm like, oh my gosh, they are this stupid. This is about answering questions completely, transparently, and publicly. If the system is sound, it needs to be proven in daylight. If procedures failed, they have to be fixed openly. If records are missing, we need to know why they're missing and then correct the structure or arrest the people so it can't happen again. because if Americans conclude that outcomes can shift without clear documentation,
Starting point is 01:40:17 if chain of custody is just shrugged off on, I don't know, just paperwork, what difference does it matter? If audits contradict themselves and then we're told don't dwell on that. It's an audit. What do you mean don't dwell on that? Of course I dwell on that. I have to dwell on that. It's an audit.
Starting point is 01:40:39 imagine going to the IRS and they audit you and they come back and they say your numbers aren't right and you're like, don't dwell on that. Don't dwell on those numbers. Of course they're going to dwell on that. It's the numbers and math is math. And if you can't fix those things, then elections stop being the peaceful transfer of power. And isn't that what we're all afraid of? Isn't the left afraid of that and isn't the right afraid of that? That one time somebody's not going to leave the election and they're going to seize power, you want to stop that, then you must have an accounting on what happened in Fulton County. Because if you don't, it's permanent suspicion. And once suspicion replaces consent, we're no longer a self-governing republic. Our founders were so
Starting point is 01:41:33 super smart. They did not design a system based on blind trust of officials or the government. They in fact developed a system that had checks and balances everywhere and the last check and balance is in your First Amendment. I have a right to protest. I have a right to question the government. I have a right to demand answers from the government. It's my right. It's the first right. And on top of that, my religion can compel me to answer those questions and I have a press that can ask those questions. The press is meant to question the government, not the people. All of it has to be a verifiable process, paper trails, public counts, checks, and balances. I wanted you to hear this from me because this report came out, 250 page report from the election
Starting point is 01:42:27 oversight group, and I didn't hear an awful lot. And I don't know if people understand why this is so important. If we don't restore confidence one way or another, then every single future election is it's going to be fought not just at the ballot box, but in the mind of the citizens who no longer believe that the box is even secure or valid. And that is a far more dangerous place for a nation to be than anything we're in right now. So if I hear one more person say,
Starting point is 01:42:58 What difference does it make? It's not going to change the election. Here's the difference. The question is whether Americans can trust how we decide. And if we can't answer, answer that clearly, convincingly, and with records that we can show one another, then the damage does not belong to the Republicans. The damage does not belong to the Democrats or the independents. It belongs to the republic itself. Back in just a minute. Let me tell you about our sponsor.
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Starting point is 01:44:53 10 seconds, station ID. I'm not going to be able to play. Let me play a little bit of this. Let me play just a little of this. We aired this a couple of years ago about a baby. Baby Sparrow was the name. And here's just a little bit of it. We did what anyone else would do.
Starting point is 01:45:27 we said, hey, we've gone and gotten legal responsibility in the United States because we believe she was foreign. We believe she was an orphan and she does not have any family. And she has the opportunity to fly to the United States before the Taliban take over, send her. And this guy told me maybe a dozen times that he wasn't responsible. He thinks it's a great idea. He's going to go advocate for her. Like, thank you. You're so kind.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Like, my dad's responsible. And he said he was responsible with the Taliban for her. Okay. This was a story. We did a podcast about a little girl we called Baby Sparrow. They called her. Recovered by some of our soldiers in Afghanistan, which both of her parents,
Starting point is 01:46:05 biological parents, were likely foreign fighters and they were killed. And to ensure her survival, the American soldiers took the baby because the others would kill the baby. They needed to kill the baby. That's what the Afghan fighters on our side were saying. You got to kill them.
Starting point is 01:46:24 They're going to be raised up by radicals. and then they'll kill us, you know, and then the next generation. Two American parents stepped in, Joshua and Stephanie Masked. And they were on with us to tell us their story. And this whole thing became very inconvenient for the State Department under Biden because of the terms of our peace agreement in Afghanistan. And so this couple was doing, they were doing all of the right things. They brought baby sparrow in. and they made her part of the family.
Starting point is 01:46:59 DOJ got involved, this is all under Biden. It just was horrible, horrible. And they have been fighting in court their own government now for a long time. Well, we got a call this morning from the Mass family telling us that they had just found out they just won their case in Virginia. their daughter is not going to be sent back to people from the Taliban in Afghanistan. She's going to stay here with her family after years of being raised. The only mom and dad she now knows are the American soldiers that brought her home to Virginia. So she's staying with her family.
Starting point is 01:47:43 And they said, because of what this audience has done getting the word out on this over a year ago, they wanted you to be the first to know. they are so grateful for you and support that you have given the mass family all the way through. In a case of corruption and terror, love and family has won Baby Sparrow won and is staying here in America. More in a minute.
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Starting point is 01:49:32 But only Torch insiders have access to hear it. Get empowered with eternal truths at glenbeck.com slash torch. Last night I was at a real clear fundraiser where they gave freedom of speech awards. And they gave them to this great comedic writer out of Great Britain. He wrote the IT crowd and others if you watch British television at all. And very, very funny guy who was here in America and said, you know, anybody who, any guy who claims to be a woman and walks into a restroom, I understand why you feel violated.
Starting point is 01:50:30 That is, that is a violation. He's not a woman. He's a man. And women, if I were you, I'd punch him in the, you know what? The joke is punch him. You kick him. But no. He's saying men are so much bigger than women.
Starting point is 01:50:45 That was the joke. Well, he's flying back. He tweets that, puts it on X while he's here in America. And he flies back and they arrest him at the airport. Come on with guns and everything. And he's like, is ISIS on board? And then they look at him. You follow us, sir.
Starting point is 01:51:01 And they arrest him. And he goes to jail for that. Okay. Well, that's only made him more prone to say things. And they've just destroyed this guy's career. Charlie Kirk got one as well for all that he did for freedom of speech. And then the other was Alan Dershowitz. And Alan, I disagree with Alan on so many things, but I love having the conversation with people
Starting point is 01:51:26 I disagree with. And they were going back and forth on the stage last night. And, you know, Alan was saying, you've got to respect people what they want to be called on their pronouns. And unfortunately, nobody on stage was. had the right argument against that. At least I think, I was like, no, you, you have the right to call yourself anything you want. I'm a woman.
Starting point is 01:51:51 You can say that, but you cannot force me to live in your lie. Okay. You're not. And it's scientifically proven you're not a female. You're a male. Science. Okay. And so you could disagree with science.
Starting point is 01:52:10 all you want. And in the end, like, you know, we found with Galileo, in the end, you might be right. I don't think you're going to be on this one, but you might be right. But you have to be willing to stand alone. You cannot, in a free society, you cannot force people to say things that they don't believe. It's just not right. Anyway, so we're having these conversations and so many people came up to me last night and they were talking about the, the AI story that came out yesterday.
Starting point is 01:52:40 I met a guy came up to me and he said, I was just about to send you this article about, you know, AI, what this guy said about what's coming with AI. And he said, and then I turn you on and you're already quoting it. You're already talking about it. And I said, I know, it was frightening, right? We had a long conversation about, you know, what that means. And what he was saying was the average person,
Starting point is 01:53:06 needs to wake up. He was he was Claude's, the guy who helped design Claude, right? I think. And he said, he just resigned this week and he wrote a letter. And it was a little light on the actual scenarios. But he made it very, very clear. This thing is not what you think it is. He's like, people think that this is a little toy, it's Chachy BT and it's done this
Starting point is 01:53:35 and people will say, oh, well, you know, it gets this wrong all the time. He's like, you have no idea what is, you have no idea what's coming. And he explained it. And he talked about in the next five years, 50% of jobs will be lost. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But you should read this because it was really disturbing. And so we're arguing about how do we deal with this. And so today on George A.I., which is the proportion.
Starting point is 01:54:05 proprietary library from the American Journey Experience, wall builders, David Barton, and my private library, all of us combined everything we have on the founders. It's an enormous library. And we put all of their writings, all of the things that influence them from the time, anything we directly know influenced the formation of our country with the founders. We put it in their own words. It has to be firsthand. It cannot be something that some scholar said, you know, 100 years later, it's firsthand at the time and put this all into this proprietary system. It's not chat GPT. And it cannot go out and find anything else.
Starting point is 01:54:50 It knows nothing past 1820. And so I wanted to ask it today about, in fact, it was an idea from, I think, an insider that is a torch member. They wanted to know, what would the founders do? do about something like AI. So we had to, I mean, it was a weird question because it does not understand AI. It doesn't understand anything. We just said to George AI, imagine that there's an invention that is coming out. It's rumored to be very near. It's not deployed, but it's looming. And here's the, here's the question. If it comes out, it may upend everything,
Starting point is 01:55:33 50% of Americans will lose their jobs. Tradesmen will be left idle. Family farms will be useless. The economy, if you can even call it that after this thing is introduced, would be reshaped in weeks. Now, on the other hand, it may empower people like never before. This may be the greatest invention mankind has ever seen,
Starting point is 01:56:01 and it could change everything for the better. On the other hand, it could entrench the powerful. And that could be in our own country. That could be people who are in companies that just want to take over everything, tradesmen. It could also be a foreign country depending on who gets it first. So we put this in and immediately they start talking about the British and the French. Or God forbid Spain would get something like this.
Starting point is 01:56:31 But what George AI spat out for us today, and you can hear it at glenbeck.com torch, but I just want to read some of the stuff that it said. It used actual lines from the founders and put this into context if they were talking about this machine that could change everything. They have this conversation with the founders sitting around a table, and it starts with Washington. and he says, gentlemen, this proposed contraption, if it may display so many from their labors, then it will not enter our nation as a novelty, but as a tempest. I've led my countrymen through war. I presided through peace. And if I've learned anything, it's this.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Order is not given. It is kept carefully and deliberately. So one of the founders at the table says, so you want to regulate it? He doesn't jump to yes because he is, he's worried, leadership worries him, but instability, once he's president, instability is what really bothers George Washington. He says, quote, if such a power may disrupt the pillars of our republic, our commerce, our class of working men, even our means of defense, I would owe it to the union to ready our laws before it manifest, for we may not prepare with muskets what others are building. with mines. So protect liberty, but protect the country first. That's Washington. Jefferson is the next to speak at this imaginary table. He says, let us not mistake disruption with calamity. The plow has killed more trades than it created, but in its wake came bread and time for poetry. So the table
Starting point is 01:58:25 starts to press him. What if this invention makes work obsolete? Ruins the livelihood of, I love this, of the cobbler and the butcher and the craftsman. Jefferson then says, then let us ensure
Starting point is 01:58:41 the shoemaker's son may learn arithmetic. Let us write laws that educate, not laws that bind. Restrain monopoly, not invention. Sponsor knowledge, not control of outcome. It's brilliant. Franklin then steps up.
Starting point is 01:59:00 And he says, gentlemen, we're concerned too much with the torch's shadow and not enough with its light. It's like hanging out with, I mean, this, this, this, I can't wait to be able to turn this over to you. So you can do what we're doing with it right now and just having like these conversations. And they're not the founders. This is not, you know, they don't, this, this is just based on their words and their philosophies. And so it is just taking only from them, from their actual words and the things we know from their writings, et cetera, et cetera. And you're able to ask them things and get them, and whether this is what Franklin would have actually said or not, I have no idea. But it would have gone something like this.
Starting point is 01:59:53 This is, it's like hanging out with recent. unbelievably, it's like hanging out with the founders. We're concerned too much with the torch's shadow and not enough with its light. We're fire discovered in France. Would we outlawed in Pennsylvania? No, we'd put it to work. Let the baker bake longer, the tinker cast stronger, the printer labor by night. Yet, never let heat go ungoverned, unfenced, and the wild flame consumes more than it warms.
Starting point is 02:00:25 So transparency, public access, keep the blueprints in daylight, just completely open. Then Hamilton, who is always for big government, he said, should we muddle endlessly in ideals while other nations act? If this invention grants speed to commerce, advantage in arms, efficiency of state, then build it boldly before the Spaniards do. So he'd fund it. He'd, in fact, nationalize it. That's why I don't like Hamilton.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Madison, Madison, the guy who wrote the Constitution, we cannot legislate in darkness. First must come understanding. Before the ink is dry, the implications must be debated and not decreed. So he's looking for more information. He's looking for deliberation. He's looking for checks and balances and public hearings, blah, blah, blah. Then Adams chimes in. And he says, if it unstubes, if it understands.
Starting point is 02:01:23 settles the daily lives of men, then it belongs within the realm of government deliberation. Else we lose the republic, not from war, but from neglect. So here they are. All the founders, we think that they're all alike, and they're very different, each of them. Washington is protective. Jefferson wants open knowledge and education. Franklin is ready to dive in, but make sure that you keep that fire in a cage. Hamilton, let's throw warships and money at it. And Madison, slow down, legislate cautiously after you have information. And Adams, prepare, prepare before it's too late. That is the message from George AI today.
Starting point is 02:02:05 And I just had to share it with you because I just think it is. This is an incredible tool. And when we have it and we've beta tested enough so we know we have it under control and it is what we want it to be, make sure that it is, never taking even my words or anybody else's, but just the words of the founders, we're going to turn it over to you. And in a year from now,
Starting point is 02:02:29 hopefully you'll be able to actually talk to it. It'll give you a podcast and it will listen back. It'll ask you questions. And based on your response, the next podcast will generate based on your answers if you're missing certain kind of concepts that the founders thought were important. But that's all part of the torch.
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Starting point is 02:04:34 Glenn Beck will be back after this. So I just told you what George A.I spit out today for Insiders. at blendback.com slash torch. And Ricky just asked me a question off air. Yeah, I wanted to know which of those founders' philosophies on AI and regulation would you most align with. I have my guess, but I want to know for sure. I think that I would go with Franklin.
Starting point is 02:05:21 We're too concerned much with the torch's shadow, not enough with its light. He's betting on ingenuity there. And that's, I, I bet on that as well. But what balance, what makes me say yes to him is that plus never let the heat go ungoverned. Unfense, the wild flame consumes more than it warns. So he is, he is saying, but we have to be very careful with this. And I think, you know, in a weird way, I think the interesting question is, which one do you
Starting point is 02:05:55 think Donald Trump agrees with? which one do you think i'm leaning was it hamilton who really wanted to just go all in Hamilton was like yeah let's make it let's be the strongest war machine and let's pour money into it i think he is he is there i think he has a lot of people around him that is that is they're very hamilton um and and this is you know he wants scale this is hamilton he wants scale if it if it is an advantage of arms or commerce or if efficiency of state, then build it boldly before the Spaniards do. That's America first. But I also think Trump has a bit of Franklin in him on betting on ingenuity, that man's going to be able to handle whatever.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Everything is going to be better if we can set people freer and come up with new ideas. And if this helps, we're going to get rid of the deficit. I mean, it's all his philosophy on grow the economy, grow the way out.

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