The Glenn Beck Program - Manipulated to Give Up? | Guests: Andy McCarthy, Joe Bastardi, & Cliff Maloney | 5/30/19

Episode Date: May 30, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Glembeck program. You know, I really feel like I need to start with this message to you. You're not alone. You're not alone. And I haven't said this in a long time because I haven't really felt it this way, but we surround them. We do. We surround them. I want to talk to you about the crazies that are out and the small number.
Starting point is 00:00:24 But they happen to have very large megaphones right now. And so they are making you feel very alone. But you're not. You're not. And I'm going to start with a little bit of Wikipedia, a little bit of Bernie Sanders, and an awful lot. A heaping handful of Chris Cuomo. We go there in one minute. This is the Glen Beck program.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 I am so, I don't watch cable news anymore. And I don't watch cable news anymore because I can't take it. I mean, I know exactly what they were going to say yesterday. If you watched it, you knew exactly what they were going to say. It didn't matter. The truth doesn't seem to matter. Nobody's really looking for the truth. and we feel overwhelmed between Facebook, Google, even Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We've done a last couple of shows on television. We did short segments on who Wikipedia really is. You know, right now, we are giving our intellectual power over to two companies, Google and Wikipedia. Well, we know who Google is, but try to sit in a room and say to somebody, oh, what was the name of that guy that was in that movie with somebody will Google it? Try to go a day without Google. And once it's said on Google, that's true. No matter what the topic is, if Google has produced that result, that's absolutely true. And we are being manipulated, but not only that, we are.
Starting point is 00:04:04 giving up our intellectual power because our power is being externalized. We're taking our knowledge and externalizing it. We're giving it to someone else. And we are losing that muscle of being able to find truth, to know and recognize the truth. That's the real problem in America. People don't know how to find it. They don't know how to recognize it. They don't even believe that it exists anymore unless it comes from Google or Wikipedia. We did, we spent the last couple of days just looking at Wikipedia and what they say. And who is editing Wikipedia? This thing is so frequently used that it's as if we took the entire population of the world and everybody visited it twice a month.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Now think of that. that's how much it's being used so what is it who's making these edits well you have 1,400 people that are responsible for most of Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:05:20 1,400 people and if you look at the leaders of that they're all communist Marxist, Antifa members I mean they're all people that do not agree with you. Fourteen hundred people are the ones that are compiling the world's knowledge, and they're not like you. You feel alone because it's so huge, but there are very few people that are doing it. Tonight on television, we're going to go to Bernie Sanders, and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:05:57 show you who Bernie Sanders is surrounding himself with. Forget everything you think about Bernie Sanders. Forget about it. What we're going to expose tonight and on Monday, it's a two-parter, is remarkable. The people he has surrounded himself with are some of the worst people out there. Now, remember, I'm the guy who said, hey, Donald Trump, he says he surrounds himself with the best, but he doesn't. Steve Bannon and pretty much all the people who have caused any of the problems that he got rid of right away. Those were the people we said, this is the real problem. Look who he's surrounding himself with.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And he figured that out pretty quickly and got rid of all of those people. Bernie Sanders has worse people around him. And there's no chance of these people going away because these are the people that are actually causing the split in the Democratic Party that no one else will talk about. What we're going to show you tonight on television at 5 o'clock on Bernie Sanders is more important, really, for Democrats to watch than it is even you because you're not going to vote for Bernie Sanders. I'm not going to vote for Bernie Sanders. But there's going to be a lot of people that do vote for Bernie Sanders. And they will have no idea what he really believes based on who he has put in charge of his policies and his campaign. It is a terrifying look, but it is the same kind of people. It is, I just said to the researchers two days ago as we were looking into this. They brought me, you know, the latest stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I said, go a step further because you've tracked this back to 2008. I can guarantee you that we're going to find the same people that we were talking about in 2008. as their mentors. It's a very small group of people that are trying to tell the masses, something that we never have used in America. We've never described the American people as the masses. But the masses are what is being discussed by many of these democratic socialists, what we have to do for the masses.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And they're forgetting the individual. And they do it because they think that. It is their arrogance. It is their arrogance that will be their undoing. There is this cocoon that these Marxist, socialist, progressives live in, where they control the intellectual debate and the intellectual neighborhood. Everybody who owns a house in the intellectual neighborhood, all those people, they're all on board,
Starting point is 00:09:03 and they make sure that no one else moves into that neighborhood. They also control the media. and Hollywood. And they make sure that no one else. I read an article from CNN last night that actually said that the mainstream media looked very different than Fox News. And they actually put Fox News out of the mainstream media, which in some ways I agree with.
Starting point is 00:09:37 However, they're more mainstream than CNN, more people are watching Fox News and more diverse than watching CNN. You have liberals watching Fox News. How many people that are conservative are watching CNN? How many of us can even take CNN anymore? And they're living in this cocoon where they just protect each other and they grow more and more arrogant because they live truly in an echo chamber. Now, many of us on the right live in an echo chamber, too, but nowhere near what the elitist left lives in.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Chris Cuomo, yesterday, can we play the video that we played yesterday afternoon of the woman, the NRA spokeswoman who was horribly raped? She was on, she's been on this program before. and she was horribly raped for two hours. She was raped when she went to college. And everybody said, oh, no, this is really safe. You're going to be fine. Well, she was the first woman to be raped at that particular dorm. Here's her story.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Listen. I was a normal 20-year-old college student. When I moved into off-campus housing, they busted that it was safe. Not a single incident since it had opened. I was the first. I woke up in the middle of the night, suffocating. Shut up, he said. Don't say a word.
Starting point is 00:11:20 For the next two hours, I knew I was going to die, and there was nothing I could do. Now I'm a mother of two. And if that predator or anyone else tries to harm me or my family, they have to come through my firearm first. I will never be unarmed or utterly vulnerable ever again. The only reason I can say that is because the NRA fought for my rights before I ever knew that I needed them. I'm the National Rifle Association of America, and I'm freedom's safest place. So Chris Cuomo tweets yesterday, only in America. What the hell does that mean?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Only in America. Now I can take that as a positive. Damn right. only in America can anyone go out and buy themselves a gun to be able to protect themselves and their family. Yeah, only in America, but that's not what he meant. Only in America. Now, I contend that he never even watched the video. He just, he just did what everybody does. And they see something he saw NRA. I'm a mother. If a predator comes in, I'm going to use my firearm. he just read the tweet, didn't watch the video, saw NRA and thought, oh my gosh, look at this, only in America.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Well, he got hammered yesterday, as he should have been hammered. But you'll notice this is not going to destroy his career. This is not going to even be a blip in his life. Usually when you mock rape victims, you're destroyed. You have some problems going on. Yeah. But not in this case. I mean, you know, and if you know anything about Chris Cuomo, which most people don't, he always doubles down and he believes he's the smartest man in the world.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So he thinks he can always talk himself out of these situations and he just falls. He's just, he's sideshow Bob walking into rakes over and over and over again. All the time. That's Chris Cuomo. Right. And this is the guy who just last week was defending a woman who said that thing that's growing in a woman's uterus is not a. A baby. He sided with her.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He sided with her. So the guy is a complete lunatic. Lunatic. Let's first discuss just that. We are now, we're now feeling it necessary to defend ourselves to people who have gone mad. We are no longer at a place to where we're talking about Roe versus Wade, we're talking about arguing with people who say that even until birth, that's not a baby. What are we doing? Why do we feel like we've gone insane? The world has gone insane. You've
Starting point is 00:14:25 stood in place, which is the right thing to do. You've stood in place as everyone else has gone the crazy cliff. And this small number of people happen to have power in the media and in the political organizations. And so they are manipulating it to make it feel like you are the one. No, you're not the one. You're not the one. They're the handful.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Chris Cuomo, let me ask you this. Should we make handgun use? Safe, rare, safe, and rare. Should we do that? Because it's, what's the third ones, too? It's safe, rare and legal. Yeah, legal. But maybe we should just take handgun use, and we should make it a woman's choice.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And women can, women can use guns at any time for any reason. Or should we just, should we just make it legal for, rape and incest. Because here was a rape victim that you supposedly care about. That's the one you used to say you're fighting for. The one that you can never
Starting point is 00:15:48 really understand. You could never you would never even put yourself, how dare you even question someone who is a rape victim and what they decide to do? Well, you just question them. So is it your hatred
Starting point is 00:16:04 for children? I know you're saying that you're you're against, you know, you want more gun control because of the children. But wait a minute. You're at the same time arguing for the death of children. In fact, not even identifying children. You can just kill that thing five minutes before it's born. Do you hate children? Do you hate women?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Because I think maybe you'd be best served if you were consistent. It's rape and incest. And women. women have the right to do with their body whatever they want to do. And so they could use a handgun at any time. Whoever they shoot is not really a person unless they declare them to be a person. Lifelock back in one minute. Lifelock is warning people about Social Security imposter scams.
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Starting point is 00:18:53 looked at this incident. I've been talking to Chris since it happened, and there were some issues. He did write only in America. Right. However, you have to remember, he did not have a lot of space. Twitter is a short form of communication. I think there's 270 characters he could use. He used...
Starting point is 00:19:11 There was some confusion there. He used 15 characters. Now, he usually tweets from the gym, and he also does usually about 15 reps of max rackpulls, so he may have been confused by that. Right, okay, okay. All right, okay. I think a lot of times Chris tries to reveal his softer side. In a similar way, he wrote, I'm sorry for the confusion, take this issue seriously.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Also, as you know, muscles don't stop bullets, is what he wrote. And it's very true. You know, it's the same way he likes to reveal a little bit of his softer side, the same way he kind of usually on buttons in the top two buttons on a shirt while he's broadcasting on CNN. We're doing just a little bit of his perfectly crafted chest. I talked to him at the gym yesterday after this went down. He was broken up. It was sad.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It was leg day. He was doing quads, calves, and glutes. And it really was a big misunderstanding. And I went back to him after this, and I said, you know, a few hours later, I called him. And I said, you know, you've had a tough day today. And he said, you know, I'm actually at the gym right now. I'm working on my planks up to 44 minutes now, which is pretty much. pretty impressive, actually.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But he said, our discourse is like Arm Day. You know, when you're triceps and you're doing skull crushers, he said, it's dangerous. It leaves you sore afterwards, but it's worth it. And I think that's what we need to. I don't even know what you're talking about. I talked to him in that evening.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And he was obviously not at the gym anymore. He was taking a shower at the gym. And he said, we need to wash ourselves at this angst, like the suds dripping down my perfectly crafted chestnut core. Right. And I thought it was... You're a spokesperson. I don't think this is helping him, helping his case at all.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah. Look, he said very clearly to me, and I want your listeners to hear this. We need to inject grace into our discourse in the same way you'd inject anabolic steroids into your neck before a workout. All right. Thank you, I think. You're listening to Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm so glad that you have joined us today. Pat Gray is joining us now from his podcast. Are you so glad about that, too? Don't seem like it. No, not really. No, I wanted to be honest. You know, people ask, hey, how are you? I like to think about it and give an honest answer.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Hey, are you glad I'm here? That's good. You want to tell the truth? No. No, no, I'm not. But Pat is doing the work that really not a lot of Americans will do, and that is watch the view. Right, so you don't have to. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Right. Because sometimes you see some interesting things. It's very rare. But every once in a while something happens. Like yesterday, there were a couple of things. One of the things that happened was that the girls were edited as they were bashing Trump. Here's what happened on the view yesterday.
Starting point is 00:23:27 What did he calls him Sleepy Joe? What is that supposed to mean? Can we pause it for a second right there, though? Let's pause it for a second. Joy Behar doesn't know what the word sleepy means. He calls him Sleepy Joe. What does that mean? Do you think anybody sleeps around her?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Sleepy? Nobody sleeps around her. It's not really complicated, though. Look it up. There's no such word in the dictionary. Google search turns. up nothing. I don't know. What is sleepy? I don't get it. Anyway, there
Starting point is 00:23:56 is more. It doesn't matter. This is one of his things. He calls people's names, call people's names. But I just think people are tired of it. They don't care. But the Democrats can't do it back. Well, I mean, listen, you can get into the
Starting point is 00:24:12 First edit. That's it. Second. But you know what we're doing? We are in that. Third. And they do it one more time too. They edit them four times in that little swearing or something. Yeah, I don't think they were I think one time they swore, but most of it was just
Starting point is 00:24:33 like Trump bashing. I think. Are you sure this was an edit or this was a satellite? No, that's what I thought it was a technical problem, but let's see, we discovered it wasn't a technical problem because of the blurring of the lips. They also took the time to I think it was Joy's lips, so you couldn't tell what you was saying. I know, the whole, the whole thing. We used to do the Jeffie cam.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Remember we used to blur Jeffrey every time he came on the air? Yes. Wouldn't that be appropriate for Joy? For Joy. The Joy cam. That would bring people joy. Also blur out her name because she's not named properly. There is no joy where joy is concerned. We've noticed that before, and it's getting worse, I think, as time goes on.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Joy just seems to be. So when did ABC? see start to edit. That's what I'd like to know. I don't know why they're doing that. I don't know if there's some directive now for... Ratings? The ratings.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Maybe they know they can't stop these women from saying these things and the ratings are... I don't know. Maybe it's just they're just editing when Joy speaks. And would be. Let's just go dark. It'd be a better show. Yeah. You know, and they might consider, I don't know, rather than editing, that takes a lot of effort,
Starting point is 00:25:51 is take her off the show. Mm-hmm. You ever thought of that? Can you imagine, I mean, I've not heard this anywhere. And you imagine if Fox News would have dropped my audio while I was talking about Obama. You imagine what would have been said? Oh. From the left and the right.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. They probably would have cheered. Yeah, but they would have, they would have made a big deal out of it. What was he said? What did he say? What did he say? Look at Fox News. He's even too extreme for Fox News.
Starting point is 00:26:22 what did he say, yada, yada, yada, who's making that decision? There's a falling out. Nobody's even... Nobody's talking about this. I mean, what was it they were saying about Trump that was so bad? ABC had to edit it. I don't know. Wasn't it a long time ago that Joy Behar supposedly left the view to, like, go do gigs in the cat skills or something?
Starting point is 00:26:41 That was a long time. There was something about that. How did she get back on the show? Was the show been on the whole time? The cat skills, the cat skills surrounded ABC and demanded they take her back. Everyone in the cat skills They were like, look man We're bad with bad comedy
Starting point is 00:26:59 We're down with bad comedy And old people But this one This is a bridge too far What does him sleepy job? What is that supposed to mean? You know, it doesn't matter This is one of his things
Starting point is 00:27:11 He calls people's names Call people's name But I just think people are tired of it They don't care I love the The sleepy thing is really a charming part of this That you pointed out Because number one
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like she's trying to get a comedy rant started of some sort. Like she's got something she wants to get to. And the cat skills and the cat skills population are going, you see, you see? That's why we rejected her. That's why we gave her back. Remember the time when she said she was funnier than you? Yes. That may be true now.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It wasn't at the time. It may be true. Did you see Howard Stern last week defend? Megan. Do we happen to have that audio from last week? Here's Howard Stern. Listen to this. Yeah, I voted for Republicans. I've endorsed Republicans. I'm just can't think of any of the ground.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm having a hard time right now. But yes, listen, I feel bad. I see you getting yelled at all the time. Thank you. Give the woman a chance for myself. Why are you looking to me? You're chasing Archie's in tears.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's crazy. He's changed a lot. He's changed a lot. Have you read his book? I haven't. No. Yeah, I read his book on vacation. This new one? Yeah. You did? Yeah. And it's, it's fascinating. Now, it's a lot of just interviews that he did. But the, that's what I've heard it was. Yeah, the opening chapter about what he's, where he is and what's happened to him in the last few years is really
Starting point is 00:28:42 remarkable. I mean, it's a, he does discuss it. Yes. A change. A total transformation to the point where he says, I can't, I can't listen to things that I did. I can't, I can't stand it. He's embarrassed by it. Yeah. And he said, you know, look, this is, this is what I did and this is why I did it. It was, it was really an honest look and an honest look at shame. I mean, Howard's turn, it has found shame. And it's, there was a time when he was pretty shame free. completely shame free. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:21 there's a, there's a case to be made that it was the Howard Stern era. I don't want to put it all on him, but it was the Howard Stern era that totally changed us. It was, it was when Howard Stern could say whatever he said, and there was no real ramification except from the big state. And the,
Starting point is 00:29:44 you know, the oppressors and the religious and that was, really the beginning of the undoing of any kind of standards in our in our nation you know and you know he was talented and he was successful uh but he as he says now i didn't care i didn't care i was just doing what i was doing and uh boy i can't i it's hard to look at myself in the mirror when i think about those things it's interesting too because you called for people to you know be introspective a few years ago and maybe join you in looking at what they've done in the past and where they're going in the future. He actually did.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He might be the only one who did. Yeah. But he actually changed. He's been doing it for a while, though. That's what I think is an interesting thing about the way he did it. Because you pointed out, Glenn, I think off the air, that he had gone to a bunch of the people he had wronged privately and spoken to them and apologized to them, not in front of cameras and just went to them and talked to them. Some most accepted, some didn't. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Do you talk to Imos? You know? I don't know if he talked to Imus. I don't think that was in there. He did mention Imis. Did he? Yeah, that he was sorry for all the things that he did to Imus. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:58 John DeBella? I don't think he was named. Maybe. I can't remember. But the point is though, like usually we had these big scandals or these big moments. You tweet something bad. You're about to get fired. You get, you know, me-toed or whatever the situation is.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And at that point, you come out, publicly and say, I'm going to change. I'm going to make everything right. He decided, and he didn't do anything to the levels of some of the scandals, but he decided to kind of try to make things right before telling anyone. Like, he kind of went out and did it all and did all the hard work. Well, not entirely true. He did have a reason to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He said, no one would talk to him. He said, no one would come on the show and do interviews with me. Yeah, he said, I was down to the same people. And he said, I couldn't get anybody. He said, because I didn't care what I used to say to people. Yeah, and that was a part of the charm of the show, of course. Right. But he's developed something better.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Oh, much better. And totally different. Yeah. And some of his audience rejected it, right? I think he had a hard time with some of the really hardcore audience that. Every time you liked it when he bashed people like that. Every time you make a change on a show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You know, I mean, you have that situation. But I think it's interesting that, I mean, because I think that's the way it usually happens, right? Glenn, you talk about this all the time, those sort of moments where you have that tipping point or, you know, where your life turns, like that may have been the catalyst, you know, like maybe him not getting the guests on was the reason that he kind of thought about these things and decided to try to fix them. Correct. You don't think there's nothing wrong with that. No, you don't think of things when everything is going well. You know what I mean? There's no reason to to be introspective. When everything is going well, your life is is traveling on a highway and it's going great places. You're like,
Starting point is 00:32:40 really I should stop and pause and think about what a bad human being I am uh look at the results it's only when things happen to you that you're like well you know geez wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute and what I like about this is it was a real change you know it wasn't like hey I don't do that anymore and you can trust me it's it's now after years of doing it saying the more I thought about it, the more disgusted I was by myself, that's a pretty big deal. It is. And that's why we were so surprised when you went on a show. When was that?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Was that like four or five years ago? Has it been that long? I don't know. I don't know. I was going to say too. And we're actually treated really well. And we were all blown away by that. I sat down in the chair and he said, why do you hate gay people?
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I was like, that was the first question. It was something like that. Yeah. And I was like, well, I don't. Well, yeah, but you're against gay marriage. No. What? No, always been for it. I'm a libertarian. I just, I don't think the government has a right in anybody's business when it comes to who do you love, who do you marry. You know, that was a eugenics thing. That was, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, don't marry black people thing. Don't marry inferior people thing. That wasn't a, that wasn't always there. That's how marriage licenses start if you don't know that story. Right. And they, they, they, they, it was mainly. It was a racist thing. It was a racist thing.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It was meant to, for the government trying to control the population in ways it shouldn't have been trying to control. I mean, remember, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln both got married without marriage licenses. Right. If it's good enough for them, I feel like, you're like, yeah. It's fine. I mean, we don't need to, why do you license from the government? It's not a wedding gift. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's just a way for them to have control over your union. Correct. Correct. And it, and it really became. embedded in us when the eugenics movement was so big, and that's where you got the blood test. And you get the blood test now because, well, we don't want inferiors mating with each other. That's amazing. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That's incredible. And that's a libertarian kind of position. And what shocked me was he listened to it. He listened to it. And somebody asked me just yesterday, they wrote to me and said, who is the best person? that has ever interviewed you on anything. And I could only really, in print, and I could only really think of one.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I'm sure there's others. But I think it was like the New York Times Magazine Guide, remember? And he didn't get a lot of it right. But he at least tried. He at least tried. He came in with one image and he left with another image. And he didn't just do a MADlib. And that's what normally people do.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And, you know, Howard is now at a place to where he's not doing MadLibs. He's not going in with, I'm going to ask them this, and I'm just going to torture them. He's now actually curious. That's what people, I'm convinced that is why the media fails. That's why our politicians fail, because they're not actually curious. They're not, none of them are willing to go. Oh, no, wait a minute. I haven't thought of it that way.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah, they don't want to. They don't care about that. Right. There's no nuance. There's nothing. And I think the average person just wants an honest look at history. They want an honest look at what's happening. They want an honest look at individuals.
Starting point is 00:36:22 They just don't want to be told everything because we're not the unwashed masses. We're the ones that we're supposed to be in charge. And whether we know it or not, there is something in Americans that doesn't happen any other place in the world. And it is bred into us in many ways. And that is, wait a minute, wait a minute. I have rights. We may not know what those rights are, but the individual still at this point is the one standing up saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. And they just want a fair shake and they just want somebody to be honest.
Starting point is 00:37:01 authentic and honest. And I applaud Howard Stern for authentically changing and being honest about it. And being a stand-up guy, never thought I would say that about Howard Stern, you know, 20 years ago. But an honest guy I have a lot of respect for. All right. Let me tell you about selling your home. Selling your home is one of the biggest things that you can do. This is the biggest investment that you make.
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Starting point is 00:39:12 So I'm more confused, I think, than ever before on impeachment. And what we've gone through for the last two years, I can't figure out why we went through it. And we happen to have a good friend of the program who is a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. He's the guy who led the terrorism prosecution of the Blind Cheek and the others that were involved in the World Trade Center bombing.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He also contributed to the prosecution of terrorists who bombed our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He is now a contributing editor for National Review, senior fellow at the National Review Institute, and can answer, what the hell is happening in one minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. What are you getting for Father's Day? What am I getting? Yeah, what are you getting?
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Starting point is 00:42:08 What was, what did a rational person take away from that press conference yesterday? What were we supposed to learn? Well, I think, Glenn, that the upshot of it is that Mueller wanted it understood that he was transmitting his obstruction information to Congress with the understanding that it's for Congress to deal with presidential misconduct. I mean, I think to cut to the chase, that's the bottom line. And I've always thought it's easier to look at this, especially for the non-lawyer. I can just imagine how people's head spin. But the thing to bear in mind with this is that Congress does not need a prosecutable felony offense in order to impeach. It needs misconduct that what the framers idea would have been would be,
Starting point is 00:43:13 an abuse of power, an egregious abuse of the public trust. Gerald Ford, I think, was more cynical, but maybe more accurate in 1970 when he was the minority leader of the House trying to impeach Justice William L. Douglas, and he said an impeachable offense is anything that the House of Representatives decides it is in a given moment in history. And so what I think has gone on here all along is Mueller has taken his writ, which was not a traditional prosecutor's writ, even though it was supposed to be under the regulations. He was really given a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation. And even though that distinction, I think, sometimes makes people's eyes glaze over, it's important because counterintelligence is really just an information. gathering exercise. It's not necessarily geared toward building a criminal case. So in the normal
Starting point is 00:44:15 criminal case or the normal situation, there would be a basis to believe a crime got committed and then you assign a prosecutor. Here, what they did was they used the Russia interference in the election as a pretext for assigning a prosecutor, a counterintelligence investigation, which effectively unleashed him to look for a crime under circumstances where there was no factual basis to believe a crime had been committed. So, so, so, and, Andy, help me out on this. Why did the Department of Justice lead this if they had no way to charge the president with anything? Glenn, I think there's two different things here that Mueller has conflated, and he's completely wrong about this. There's two different decisions that have to be made. One is, do we have enough evidence to prosecute?
Starting point is 00:45:18 And secondly, assuming the answer to the first question is yes, do we invoke the Justice Department guidance that says a sitting president may not be indicted? the first decision doesn't have anything really to do with the second decision they're they're factually distinct and the first decision decision on the sufficiency of the evidence is the decision that's supposed to be made by the prosecutor who's assigned to the case so muller's job here all this nonsense he talks about how we can't you know because the justice department can't charge obviously that should not have entered into our That's ridiculous. He has to make a call about whether there's a case or not.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And then if it turns out that he thinks that there is a case, which means there is evidence that a prosecutor believes a rational jury could convict the accused on beyond a reasonable doubt, then it's up to the Justice Department as an institution to decide whether to invoke the guidance that says a sitting president can't be indicted. But there's no reason to use that as a basis or a rationale for not making the decision about whether there's a case or not. So do you think he was, he wanted the president to be impeached? And so he just left that door open because he couldn't make a case. And so he left that door open knowing that impeachment is whatever the Congress can convince the American people is bad.
Starting point is 00:47:02 uh... he we can impeach on yet going i think this is i think they figured out this is baller and his staff that this was the surest way to get their evidence to the congress what i mean by that is if muller had decided that there was a there was an obstruction case then he would have recommended that
Starting point is 00:47:29 to the attorney general bar Now, by the time this came around and Barr was the Attorney General, Mueller had to know that the theory under which he was investigating obstruction was different and not going to be acceptable to the Justice Department under Barr. Because Barr has a very different idea, and I think it's the correct idea, but that's neither here nor there. They have different ideas about what obstruction is. Mueller was investigating it on a much looser theory. And I think that if he had recommended charges, then he would have had trouble getting that report out the door,
Starting point is 00:48:12 because then there would have been a big Justice Department to do over whether he had applied the right legal standard or not. Instead, what he did curiously, but I think probably in the end cleverly, was to say, I've got to decide. And here's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to give you the evidence on both sides of the question and not make a decision. And I'll rely for doing that on the Justice Department guidance that says you can't indict a sitting president anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And that way, he managed to get his evidence out the door, whereas I think if he had recommended a charge that this would have all gone very differently. So now, because last night what I heard two things. One, I respect the Attorney General. A bar is clean and good with me. I think he did the right thing. That's not what the media was reporting. Did I miss something on that one? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I think the big area of controversy that the media has focused on is that Barr testified that at least three times emphatically Mueller told him that his decision not to make a decision on obstruction was not because of the Office of Legal Counsel guidance that you can indict a sitting president. And then lo and behold, if you look at the report, that is exactly the reason that he relies on. So the argument was that Barr had misled everyone along these lines, and I think Mueller is conceding that he did say to Barr what Barr contends, that is that the OLC guidance wasn't the reason. Now, what I think people are missing that we should focus on is the timeline. Here's what I think happened here, Glenn. The first time that they meet after Barr is confirmed is March 5th, and it's at that means.
Starting point is 00:50:20 that Mueller tells Barr, I'm not going to decide on the obstruction. Barr asks him, is that cause of the OLC guidance? He says no. And then Barr says to him, well, what's the reason? And he says, we're still formulating our reason. And then two and a half weeks later, he files his report, and he uses the OLC guidance as the reason. So I think what happened here is Mueller just decided not to decide
Starting point is 00:50:47 with rationale to be filled in later. later. And as it got down to the end, they decided to rely on the OLC guidance. So I think maybe on March 5th, he didn't realize that that was where he was coming out. But by the time he filed the report on March 22nd, that was what he relied on. The other thing is I gathered that what he was saying was, look, all of the evidence that you need to impeach, and the only evidence that we could find is in the report. You have it all. So don't come to me and ask and don't do any that. You have to decide this is impeachable or not.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And I read through the lines that he was thinking that it was. And I'll testify, but only to those things that are in the report because that's all there is. Do I have that right? You do. And I thought that was a, but you know, I don't want to cast aspersions unnecessarily at more i like to just try to keep this on the issues yes but i thought that was very presumptuous and ego maniacal of him i must say in what way if he were well can you imagine i'm in front of
Starting point is 00:51:56 a court of appeals making a legal argument and a judge has the temerity to ask me mr mccarthy what about this argument and i say hey look i wrote a brief go read it um you have be done with you um you don't get to do that the witness doesn't get to decide uh what questions he can be at asked, Mueller doesn't get to decide, well, I've already given you my report. I have nothing else to say. You know, you get subpoenaed, you come into the tribunal, whether it's Congress or a court, and they'll decide what they're going to ask you and what you have a right to answer and not answer. Now, he's trying to send off testifying. It's abundantly clear that he doesn't want to testify, because if he did, they would have been delighted to have him, right? He would have testified already.
Starting point is 00:52:42 and I think Jerry Nadler is going to be savvy enough to realize that Mueller gave him as much yesterday. Forget from... We're losing. We've just lost you. You said Jerry Nadler is savvy enough to what? To not press this issue of bringing Mueller in to testify. Much out of Mueller as he's ever going to get. from that statement yesterday.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Right. Okay. All right. So I want to ask you now about what happens next and so if you can hang on, we'll try to fix the connection as well. We'll take one minute and then we'll be back with Andrew McCarthy. And what is ahead of us because of this? Car shield is our sponsor
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Starting point is 00:55:16 You know it. So don't call me because I had nothing else to offer. It's up to you. all right what if they decide to go through with this do they do hearings in the house or do they just have to vote and say well there's there's the evidence and we're going to impeach and then that pushes it to the center to the senate what should happen and what do you think is going to happen when they can do if they want to proceed with impeachment with that ultimately requires as a majority vote, a simple majority vote in the House on articles of impeachment,
Starting point is 00:56:01 and then it would be referred to the Senate for an impeachment trial where you would need a two-thirds supermajority to remove the president. The need to get the supermajority is usually what stops them from seeking impeachment in the first place in the House, if you know, if you know it'll be futile. Procedurally, what should happen is probably one of two things. either they could just proceed through the judiciary committee or they could convene a special impeachment committee. But the goal would be for such a committee to hold hearings, specific articles of impeachment. And then the articles would be voted in the committee, and if they got out of committee,
Starting point is 00:56:46 they'd be referred to the full. So why wouldn't we have started there? I mean, if you can't indict a sitting president. And this whole thing is about Donald Trump. I contend this whole thing should have been about Russia. But if this whole thing was about Donald Trump, why didn't the DOJ take the Russia side and the Congress, when they got power, immediately said, you know what, Mueller is not important anyway? We want to look into it. Why wouldn't they?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Go ahead. I think this is a broader conversation about Congress not functioning anymore. and delegating most of its authority so that its members can do their real job, which is to go on cable television, evidently. But basically, you're right. This is what should happen. And I think in modern times, though, Congress also, to try to be fair to them, they realize that federal prosecutors have ways of compelling that that are more
Starting point is 00:57:52 effective than Congresses and prefer to rely on a criminal investigation. It's not a, it's not really a perfect, it's a far from perfect way to do it because a federal prosecutor's inquiry is very different from what Congress needs to find for impeachable offenses, but they do like to rely on the prosecutor to do the investigation. and I guess that's really why they relied on Mueller. The other thing, Glenn, is this is not a one-way street here. Impeachment's a political process, and I think they may see that there's a lot of people in the country who, A, are just tired of this, and B, don't think the country should be put through an impeachment inquiry
Starting point is 00:58:50 unless it's a really, really serious offense that everybody can agree is serious enough to at least warrant that kind of consideration. I have to tell you, if he would have found anything with Russia, I think the story would be different. But with what they have, I don't think the American people, Democrats included, have the stomach for it except for the extremes. and I mean, I kind of actually hope that they do go for it, because I think this is going to backfire on them. I mean, I'm talking just politically speaking. I think this would backfire on them, big time. Yeah, I think that's right. And I look at it as now, I'm a law guy.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm not a political guy. Yeah, right. Right. Great assault. It's worse. But to me, you know, if you don't like Trump, then I think the argument, I think the argument that you make is that he acts inappropriately and beneath the dignity of the office, and you can make that in an offensive, aggressive way.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Whereas if you have to argue this in terms of impeachment and whether he should be removed over obstruction, now you're on the defensive, because the question is, does all this stuff that's inappropriate, we can all agree that a lot of this stuff should not be done by a president. but whether it rises to the level of a crime is a real different question. Right, especially this close to an election. Just get somebody else elected. You're listening to Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 01:01:36 $100 off, money back guarantee. X-chairbeck.com. Use the promo code X-wheels. Tonight, tonight, the socialist spotlight shines on Bernie Sanders. Who are the people surrounding him? Find out tonight on blazedtv.com slash glen. Use the promo code, Glenn. Today is a really important program at 5 o'clock that you don't want to miss. It's part one of our expose on Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 01:02:04 We've done one for, you know, all the big, players and we release a new one every week, all the big players in the Democratic presidential hopeful roster. And we're at Bernie Sanders now. And what we found on Bernie Sanders is far worse than we thought we would find. And we think we found a route, quite honestly. And tonight's show is something that I think is more important for Democrats to watch because I'm not going to vote for Bernie Sanders. I don't think you're going to vote for Bernie Sanders. But this one is the root of the real civil war between the Democrats and the socialists and worse. And we found the worse that's right at the top of his campaign. Jason joins us now.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Jason's our head researcher and has been working on this now for weeks. And what have you found, Jason? Yeah, when we first started looking at this, I was like, everyone knows pretty much about Bernie Sanders crazy. They already know about what he stands for. He's a socialist, all that. You know all that. So we concentrate on the people that are surrounding him. And that's something that you did very effectively when the Obama administration, like all these people around them, like, what are they really about? So I concentrated on that. And I was like, oh my gosh, starting from the very top, all the way down and shows you've done in the past about top down, bottom up, mobilizing, you know, foot soldiers. This is pretty much what they've based their campaign on. When you hear about
Starting point is 01:03:35 some of these people, like what they, how they cut their teeth in the very beginning, how they became activists, socialist, Marxists, Islamists, blatant anti-Semites. I'm like, I don't know, I hope Bernie Sanders watches this show because I know, I knows. I know he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, Jewish. I, I, I, I have a hard time believing that he would allow some of these people into his campaign if he really knows. I don't know. But when you hear about the guy, that we focus on today. He gets his own show today. There's just one guy.
Starting point is 01:04:11 He's the head of his campaign, right? The head of his campaign. Yeah, head of his campaign. It's one guy whose name you've probably never heard of. You might know the things that he's been involved with. And he's a really, really frightening kind of guy. And it's almost unbelievable. But when you break it down today, you'll see that, wow, like this,
Starting point is 01:04:35 the ties this person has, you would think immediately would lock him out of any of the things he's ever done. But he's, he's been at the peak. He's been at the pinnacle of the top, you know, establishment Democrat, you know, leaders and power players. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid. He also strangely, he was at Center for American Progress. And he strangely took on Hillary Clinton early on. And everybody was like, what are you doing, man? And only now does it start to make sense.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Right. And that's a very weird split. But that split now is starting to leak out. And the war going on in the Democrat. We've already seen like some of the freshman congressmen coming out against Nancy Pelosi, criticizing Obama, other people that are in the establishment. But now, as you'll see later tonight, that we're kind of tracing this to like one of these moments. And then it escalated in another watershed moment where more and more people were like, what is this guy doing? like he was our guy.
Starting point is 01:05:36 This was our like, this probably could have been someone that we send, you know, to try to get elected one day because he, this is our golden boy. He's our guy. But then he privately flipped. He flipped on him and went radical. And we'll show you later tonight that, you know, we've got leaked emails that show that the establishment are like freaking out big time. Like what in the heck?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Like what is going on? What is this guy doing? You'll see those emails later tonight. but there is a very real splintering going on right now. There's a war. And these are not the people that you want to go to war with.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Bernie Sanders' people that are on his campaign. You don't want to go to war with them. They specialize in the type of community activism, quote unquote, that you kind of saw in the Obama campaign, like Occupy Wall Street. Are we getting to get to her next week?
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yes. That's Monday. Yeah. There's the... You know how Occupy Wall Street was leaderless? you know, this is just spontaneous grassroots leaderless. No, I don't think so. In fact, I think we found the leader.
Starting point is 01:06:41 And the leader now works for Bernie Sanders. And the evidence is pretty darn compelling. If you, that's their thing, leaderless, decentralized. Like, you'll hear that even about Antifa nowadays. So we don't know what to do about them. You know, it's grassroots or leaderless. They just come out all on their own. Really?
Starting point is 01:07:00 because I've kind of found a video where they sent this one person to speak on behalf of their entire group and organization in a foreign country. Wait until you see this. And which foreign country? This should be seen by every Democrat. Yes, absolutely. The Democratic Socialists, the communists, the Islamists are working together. And they are working together in the Bernie Sanders campaign. And they are working to destroy first the Democratic Party as anyone who is a normal citizen knows the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:07:40 They are destroying it. And this is not something that Republicans or independents should be cheering for. Oh, good. Destroy the Democratic Party. Because they'll replace the Democratic Party. And they are very, very dangerous, very dangerous. It's a strong look at Bernie Sanders. Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Part one is tonight. You have to be a Blaze TV subscriber. Subscribe to blazTV.com slash Glenn. Use the promo code, Glenn. And you'll save 10% off of your first year of subscription. BlazTV.com slash Glenn. This is worth signing up for it. You know what?
Starting point is 01:08:25 If you don't like it, just cancel tomorrow. But I'm promising you you are going to like it. And you're going to find this of great, great value. The press, all the press, in my opinion. They're talking about all the wrong things. If you really want to see where we're headed, you need to see tonight show. If you want to see where the Democrats really are and the thing that nobody on the left wants to talk about, the real war inside the Democratic Party and who's leading it.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It's not Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders, I think, is a vehicle. He is, he is in many ways using them, but they are using him as well. He is a vehicle for very bad forces. And you'll see that tonight only on blazedtv.com slash glen. promo code Glenn. Thanks, Jason. Thanks.
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Starting point is 01:10:57 dot com promo code back i sat down with um good morning america uh i don't know about two months ago um and they wanted to do a uh conversation with me on faith and the role that faith plays in my life and uh my first response was not a chance uh but then i was told who the reporter was uh and it's paula ferris and she is somebody who is really truly guided by faith and she convinced somehow another Good Morning America and ABC to do a series on faith where she just goes and has honest conversations about people who, who, you know, believe in God and have faith. And she's a big believer. And it was a fascinating conversation. It just came out and you can find it at Good Morning America. I tweeted it, I think, last night. We're going to put it up at glenbeck.com today.
Starting point is 01:11:55 but if you're interested in the journey of faith and what it all means and and and how you get there, join us on that. It's a podcast. Last about I think it's an hour. And she's very, she's a wonderful, wonderful person. I really liked her. Were you here for that, Stu? No, I was not.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Yeah. I remember you being covered. the interview though. Yeah, she's, she's really nice. And, you know, they made some edits and things. So I don't think it's exactly, you know, exactly right. But it's, I mean, it's close. And they tried. And it was, I mean, she's great. So it's journeys of faith with Paula Ferris, wherever you listen to your podcast. Or we'll, we'll post the, the Good Morning America link as well at glenbeck.com. But well worth listening to. Did you talk about your hateful belief that baby should live? No, I didn't get into that. I hope you got into that because we all know that
Starting point is 01:12:56 babies should not be allowed to live. Well, they're not really babies. And they're not babies. I mean, you know, sure, they might turn into babies someday, but they might turn into a mushroom. We don't know. Right. You don't know what's growing inside of there. Where do you think those creatures and Super Mario Brothers came from? Right. Right. They are little walking mushrooms. It could be a little walking mushrooms. I still have not recognized any of my children as children. Oh, good. Yeah. As long as you don't recognize them, you can do whatever you want with them. Right. Right. I was amazed to see the latest in this slew of new abortion laws that are pretty restrictive. Not as restrictive as they should be, but restrictive nonetheless.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Sometimes the latest one is Louisiana, six weeks, they're saying, basically. And I love this one where they're like, they don't even know if they're pregnant yet. I was like, well, I mean, like, this is one thing I've always talked about with the theoretical abortion argument. Like, let's just say, I think in a sane society, if once I was going to be pro abortion and once I was going to be, be anti-abortion, right? The side that was pro-abortion would be arguing simply just for the morning after pill, right? So, like, if you made a mistake and you don't know what's going on yet, we don't even know if you're pregnant yet, you take this pill and it gets rid of it and we'll never even know
Starting point is 01:14:10 what the situation was, right? Like, I'm not saying that's a good argument, but at least it's a, like, you could see a sane part of that at some level. Like, that should be the strong. left wing position here. Right. Right. Like you're just like, look, you know, six weeks is a good example of this. There's a heartbeat starting at six weeks. If you can't, you know, if you're worried about being pregnant, you have six weeks to do it. You know, you have multiple options in that period to do so, right? And you, and people are like, well, they don't even know they're pregnant.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Well, if they want to get an abortion and they're worried about pregnancy, then you kind of go and you check, right? Like, that's what you're going to have to do. And it's really not about you, not knowing if you're pregnant. It's about whether you're, you know, whether people are starting to pick out shoes and a new crib. Right. You know, whether that's a, you know, when we're talking about the next day, some people say it starts at conception.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Some people say heartbeat. Some people, you know, whatever. Whatever. But, you know, it's six weeks, you know, you got to figure out what, what's going on. And it's, we know it's not a baby. Yeah. I mean, I shouldn't say that. We know that it's not breathing and it's not thinking and it's not feeling yet that we know of.
Starting point is 01:15:28 So, but that's not even the normal, you know, Republican viewpoint, right? Most states are going for 20 weeks. And if you can't make a decision in five months whether you want to abort your kid or not, I mean, are we not being, we're not, that's a legitimately wide window. You're going to know you're pregnant by five months in almost every single case. You got a nice window to make that call. Okay. These are not, that is not a restrictive policy.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Yet it's act, you act. It's like, it's like Handmaid's Tale. They act as if you're from directly from Handmaid's Tale if you want to stop. Only five months to make your decision. More than half the pregnancy. Sorry. You know, and that's like crazy. That's a crazy thing.
Starting point is 01:16:14 The new one in Louisiana is interesting because Louisiana is one of the only places in America these days where you can find a hell of a lot of real pro-life Democrats, including the governor who is actually signing this, who's a Democrat, and is like, yeah, I'm in on this one. In fact, it was proposed by a Democrat. There have been multiple bills over the past few years that have been proposed by Democrats that have been restrictive on abortion. In 2006, a Democratic state senator sponsored a trigger law, and the way this is happening
Starting point is 01:16:48 on both sides, which is kind of an interesting legal development in that states are passing bills that will trigger if Roe v. Wade gets overturned. So if Roe versus Wade gets overturned, places like Vermont will automatically have abortion in their constitution all set. And the opposite happening in Louisiana, it's automatically banned if Roe versus Wade gets overturned. Which is interesting because you kind of see the stupid scare tactics of the Roe versus Wade thing in that you're going to have more than half of the country almost definitely having abortions
Starting point is 01:17:18 even if they do overturn Roe versus Wade. They'd have to do something on top of that that would go much further before this would go away. And yes, would it be potentially less convenient for you to not let your baby live? I know. I know we're asking a lot here. You might even have to drive. You know, it could be 45 solid minutes. I mean, like, I get that it would be more restrictive.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And they're just not interested in even talking about any sort of restriction on abortion. They wanted to go all the way to birth. than at times you've seen over the past few months after birth. But it's interesting to see that, like, there is still a large group of people who are Democrats, people who are fighting for things like Obamacare, people who are fighting for things that I am not at all comfortable with when it comes to policy.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You know, Medicaid expansion, Medicare expansion, all these big government programs at the same time pro-life in big time ways. I mean, it was not a close vote. I see the vote here. 79 to 23. in the those are the Democrats that need to watch this tonight
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Starting point is 01:18:34 5 o'clock you don't want to miss it is the Glennbeck program we've got to do something about climate change we if it will just save one child I mean forget about abortion if it'll just save one child
Starting point is 01:18:54 Isn't it worth it? Well, no, probably not. The Green New Deal, the details, an economic disaster that would hurt every American.
Starting point is 01:19:04 That's according to a guy who actually has some authority when he speaks about climate change. He joins us next. She,
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Starting point is 01:20:41 Relieffactor.com. That's Relieffactor.com, 800, 500,000, 83, 84. Relieffactor. dot com. So at the website weatherbell.com, uh, Joe Bastardi, uh, is, is there. And he is the chief meteorologist for weather bell.
Starting point is 01:21:09 He is the author of the climate chronicles. He is a guy who it was wildly, wildly, uh, accredited and, and, and wildly, um, just one of the, one of the most quoted and one of the best weather guys and meteorologists, uh, that we had in the country until climate change. Then, of course, when he went, wait a minute, I actually do this for a living. I am a scientist. And none of this works. That's when he started to find himself in hot water.
Starting point is 01:21:43 He is still on the same bandwagon saying, uh, you know, this green new deal? This is going to kill America and just wreak havoc and hurt every American. We have Joe joining us now. how are you? Very well. Thanks for having me. I've always wanted to chit-chat with you. We've done it a couple of times, but it's time a little bit longer. You have looked into the Green New Deal.
Starting point is 01:22:14 How long did it take you to figure out this has nothing to do with climate? You know, I wrote the book on that. For those of you, I always tell people, go look at the book. And if you don't like it, then on a cold winter night, you can throw it in the fireplace place and it'll help eat your house because you want to make sure that you know get that but and book burning can be popular today and i'm sure mine is but but here's in 2015 when the former EPA administrator jena McCarthy was testified before congress she agreed with the idea that the proposals being made would only save 0.01 Celsius over 30 years but you
Starting point is 01:22:58 She said the real benefits are that we're going to show the planet what you're supposed to do. Now, I'm sitting here going, well, look, America's the most prosperous country of the world's greatest experiment in freedom. If the rest of the planet hasn't followed us there, why are they going to sit there and start following us now? Right. I mean, it doesn't make sense. But let me put this in perspective for you, because perspective, and see, the problem is that my father, who's a meteorologist, graduated out of Texas. A&M in 65. I always go down to Texas. But in any case, he taught me that the foundation you stand on today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow. And so when you look back at the weather
Starting point is 01:23:41 and what the weather and climate has done, not only in this country, but the entire world, you sit there and it's almost as if it's a shooting fish in a barrel when these people bring, oh, this is the worst ever. You know, and that's one of the biggest things that I rely on looking at patterns in the past. You know, I tell people I don't have any life except my good lord above, my family, weather, and Penn State wrestling. That's about all I have. So most of the time, it's with wrestling.
Starting point is 01:24:10 But listen to this. The U.S. is currently only responsible for 15% of the man-made CO2. 15%. Mankind is responsible for 0.01% of that. So let's do the math. it means that the U.S. contribution to the CO2 totally atmosphere is 0.0015 of the atmosphere. And what's the Green New Deal solution? Destroy the American economy.
Starting point is 01:24:40 I mean, really, because we all know, I'm not a company. We develop products for wind and solar to make those forecasts more accurate. Because, you know, we had a situation in Texas, Glenn, for instance, I guess it was 2011, where you had a big freezing rainstorm in West Texas, well, the wind turbines are. And, you know, you needed heat for Dallas and Houston, and the wind turbines can't turn. Well, if a power company knows that there's that threat four or five days away, they may acquire energy from another power company that's not having that kind of way. So this is what I do.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I have nothing against alternative energy. And this argument to me is not an argument, like, for instance, understand the other side of the argument. And I keep telling people on my side of the argument, until such a time that the planet actually starts to cool, they have every right in the world. And you should be open-minded of what's going on. But here's the big thing.
Starting point is 01:25:46 The geological history of the earth, the quality of the journey, an 80-year-old man's life, which is what the last 40 years has been. You think about that stuff, and you look back, you think about the sun, the oceans, stochastic events, the very design of the system, and that gets them mad, because it means that I believe in God very, very strongly.
Starting point is 01:26:12 So what happens is, wait a minute, why is this the first time in known history that man is wrecking the climate? Now, let me just say one more thing, because I'm open-minded. I realize this is your show. If I could have wrestled the way I talk, I would have been a national champ. But listen, what happens is this. What happens is this. He's seductive, because if you're the guy who's the guy. that climate control knob, you're like Galileo, for goodness sakes.
Starting point is 01:26:49 30, see, I'm very sympathetic, empathetic, whatever that word is. It's got too many syllables for me. But what happens is if you've been doing this for 30 years, you now own it. It becomes your life. And if it becomes your life, what happens if someone attacks your idea? They're attacking your life. And, you know, there's also a lot of people on the other side that are reaching for the higher plaintiffs.
Starting point is 01:27:12 So when you look at that, I try to tell people, I try to be the dumbest man in the room, because the dumbest man in the room, if you're hungry, is going to find the food, right? So you look, every artist guy is looking at one thing. You're not going to see the very things that challenge you that you need to perfect your arguments. I am. I realize a long time ago that the weather is an infinite, magic, majestic system. that the more I learn about the field, the less I know about it in the totality of it. There's a book out there called The Half-Life of Facts about how fast knowledge is expanding.
Starting point is 01:27:56 And when you look at those things, it gives you a perspective of humility and understanding it's, sorry, you're not controlling the whole shooting match. So, Joe, I just read a story last week of a new wood. is how they described it. But it's a new kind of wood that if we clad our homes in this and it's manmade wood, it will save us 50 to 80% on our electricity bills because it is such a good insulator. I mean, I just don't understand how if you really care about the environment, you should be a vegan, B, for nuclear power plants,
Starting point is 01:28:45 and you should be looking to the free market system because it's the free market system that is developing all of these things. Everything the government has tried to do fails. Cylinder. Cylinder was pretty good. But that's the thing that makes me, you know, in the book, most of, for instance, is a chapter in there called the weaponization of the weather. And that was put out a year ago saying this is what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Every single event is going to be like that because when you look at it, the scientific argument is the same argument. Who's better? Texas or Texas A&M in football, right? It lasts about 10 minutes and then you move on. But what happens is this, and this is why I said the book is a love story because what I have loved since I was three years old. I mean, I remember my parents tell me, I was three, I used to sneak outside, lie in my back and stare at the sun through the clouds. I almost burned my retinas out. That's how fascinated it was with the weather from being a little kid.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So when you see this dragged through the mud and you see everybody, you know, where were you when, you know, I was 15 years old crying because we missed a snowstorm in Atlantic City, for instance. You weren't anywhere to be found. And one of the other things that gets me is that they come out after the fact. Now, Glenn, you've been down there for a while. You guys been down there for a while. You know after 2012, the Texas, there were a lot of people saying, oh, this is the beginning of a new dust bowl, the new perma drought, right? Because you had three straight years of horror.
Starting point is 01:30:21 And it was just like 52 through 54, which I know about because growing up down at Texas A&M, I know about the Junction Boys, and how bad the weather was in 52, 53, 53, And like clockwork, four years later, it turned around then and it turned around now. So I'm seeing stuff like this is USA Today had today. Well, this is a sign of climate change, all the wet weather. Well, what answer don't you own? If it snows cheese in Dallas on New Year's Eve, that's climate change too. So this is what's going on.
Starting point is 01:30:51 They wait until after the fact and say, see that. And, you know, in the weather and forecasting and in the private sector, what Weatherbell does, we have to tell people the why before the what and hit the forecast because you want to know something national weather service is great there's 1700 private companies out there by guys are real real sharp people and if you're not right you're not going to get paid so i use everything i have at my disposal including understanding and knowing the past to project into the future and that's not what i'm seeing on the other side i see a climatologist and say well this is a sign of this or this is a sign of that. Well, why didn't you tell me this was going to happen back in February? Correct. Right? You take what's going on now.
Starting point is 01:31:38 The reason we have so many tornadoes is because it's so cold across much of the country. 08, 2011, and this year, with three coldest maize in the northern plains and back into the southwest that we've recorded the last 15 years. Well, guess where the tornado spikes are? Well, if you get a cold May, you're naturally getting warmer air coming out of the Gulf of Mexico. you're going to get big fights going on, and that's what you've got. But that's not because it's just warm everywhere. Last May was warm all over the United States, and we had a record low amount of tornadoes
Starting point is 01:32:10 in the month of May. As a matter of fact, folks, there is ample reason to believe that the greeting of the planet, which is occurring. And Dr. Will Happer talks about this all the time that we're basically coming out of a CO2 drought, right? Plants grow better at four times the amount of CO2 in the air. What is the synergistic relationship between animal and plants? Since animals exhale 100 times more CO2 than they inhale, and plants then take that and grow from it.
Starting point is 01:32:39 So what we're coming out of that? So the demonization of CO2, or for instance, guys, what's the average temperature of the planet? What's the perfect temperature of the planet? I mean, you know, they say hottest year ever. Well, wait a minute. It's only the mean temperature is 57 and a half, 58 degrees. How's that hot, right? What if it's 58.5? What does that mean for Dallas? Oh, it doesn't mean that Dallas is going to be 115 degrees every day, right? So it's back and forth and natural.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Joe Bastardi is his name, and he is the author of the new book, The Climate Chronicles. It's been out for a while, really good. Climate Chronicles. If you want the facts on the Green New Deal, on what climate change really is, what this is all about. the facts to be able to argue it. You'll get them from Joe and his new book, The Climate Chronicles. Joe, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again. Here's our sponsor this half hour. It's Omaha Steaks. Omaha Steaks is a great Father's Day present.
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Starting point is 01:36:11 One of the things that I think is important that Joe was talking about is we're in the middle of this, you know, kind of hyped up period of tornadoes. It's done some real damage this year. And this is what the left and people who want you to believe, that you need to give them a few trillion dollars to deal with global warming. I mean, John Delaney is one of the candidates who's running for the Democrats. You don't know that because he said 0% in almost every poll. But he's been running since, I think, July 2017, which is a long time.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Especially to have 0%. I think he has 1 or 2% in Iowa, though, to be fair. He's former congressman, and he's running as a moderate. He's basically saying, you know, this is me, I'm a moderate. he introduced a $4 trillion global warming plan. This is a moderate we're talking about, supposedly. And it's amazing because you see the, I think, really dark exercise of exploiting the deaths of people
Starting point is 01:37:23 killed in natural disasters for political purposes when it comes to global warming. And they'll say every single time, something like, you know, there's an article here from Think Progress, poisoned weather, global warming helped fuel killer tornadoes. And you go through and you read their quotes
Starting point is 01:37:40 and it's like, you know, you can't leave out global warming when you're talking about these killer tornadoes. It's a real problem and these are going to increase and get worse and worse and worse and worse. And then, you know, you can look at this year's chart of how many tornadoes there have been and it has been a relatively active year. It's not an unprecedented year,
Starting point is 01:37:58 but it's been an active year. However, when you look at the long-term trend from the 1950s, let's say, to today, you see a massive improvement in the rate of tornadoes, a decrease in the rate of tornadoes. That's fairly dramatic. I mean, you know, it's about half. I mean, when you look at it. Of tornadoes? Of tornadoes. About half from what it was. To give you the, let's see, let me give the exact number here real quick, just so you have it, in case you want to annoy your friends. There was, from 1954 to 1985, we averaged about 56, tornadoes a year. And this year, from 1986 to 2018, it's about 33. So it's a little bit
Starting point is 01:38:40 less than a 50 percent degrees. It's the possibility that it's just a stableish number. But, you know, there wasn't everybody living in every place in America. Well, that is a good argument for it. So when you talk to the total tornado count, we are much better at detecting them now that we were, you know, in the 50s and before that. And that's why usually when scientists look at they look at only F3 and above because you don't usually miss too many F3s. Right. So the F3s and above have had a significant decrease. And it's the exact opposite of what we're told.
Starting point is 01:39:14 By the way, the quote I was reading you was not from this most recent outbreak. It was from 2012. Now, we had the lowest year, and every year since 2012 has been lower than 2012. Every single year since we've had lower numbers of tornadoes. And in fact, 2018 was the lowest we've ever had, ever measured. And they've been telling us for years and years and years that global warming is going to make this worse. And instead, it's made it better. I don't know if it has anything to do with one has anything to do with the other.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Is it possible that they are only speaking to us on the opposite day? That is very possible. I mean, it's the best. Think about it. Think about it. Don't dismiss it out of hand. I've heard less ridiculous things in the last 24 hours. All right.
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Starting point is 01:41:14 No, it is. It's a sad statement on my life, but I'm sad that Chris Cuomo hasn't responded to any of my tweets. You want to talk to Chris Cuomo? No, through Twitter. Why even there? What good would that do you? Where's the advantage for you in that situation? Chris Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:41:32 All right, okay. You put it into perspective pretty quickly, and I don't appreciate it. I don't ever want to be in contact with Chris Cuomo. I just, you know, he just pissed me off so much yesterday. He just pissed me off so much yesterday with what he did, you know, a woman comes out and she's like, you know, hey, I was raped and that's why, you know, I have a gun. I didn't believe in guns before. I believe in guns now.
Starting point is 01:41:54 And, you know, I was brutally raped for two hours. And he comes out, only in America. Oh. And then he comes up with some BS. What I meant was only in America, can we not have a conversation about the obviously good uses of guns like stopping rapes and bad uses of school shootings? We can't do that here. First of all, what are you talking about? No one needs that conversation because everyone knows it.
Starting point is 01:42:22 So no one needs the conversation because it's obvious to everyone on earth. Secondly, that's not what you meant at all. And you know it. This is a very standard Chris Cuomo tactic, which is, Whenever he is, whenever he does something dumb, which is, you know, no more than 13, 14 times per hour, when he does something dumb, he can never admit it was just dumb. He always has to come up with, with this lawyerly explanation as to what he really meant. That he thinks people buy. Because he's under the assumption and belief that he is the smartest man that has ever lived.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Yes. So he always, and also, not just the smartest man, but the best lawyer. So he thinks he can lawyer himself out of every single argument. And you even see this when he's talking to someone on the left. He comes up with these like smug points that he thinks are good from the right because he thinks he's a good lawyer and can argue both sides. I mean, there's one in every family. There's one in every family.
Starting point is 01:43:15 They're like, you know, you're really. How many are in the Cuomo family if they're dominated by these people. No, I know, but not really like Chris. I don't know. They're not as, they're not as, you know, when you watch Chris, you're just kind of like, well, he's really not that smart at all. Everyone needs to try hard. He's trying hard.
Starting point is 01:43:34 He's trying hard. Did you do your best son? Yes, you did. I mean, it wasn't good, but you did your best. You know, the other thing I love about Cuomo, too, is in this tweet exchange, just fantastic. I think it was Janice Dean who said, hey, you know, how about us people who maybe don't have, you know, a big man like you to protect them? You know, how about us with guns? And that's when he went into his long explanation.
Starting point is 01:43:56 But he couldn't help referencing in the third tweet. He said something like, you know, as we all. know, muscles don't stop bullets. Now, she didn't say anything about his muscles, but you know who's thinking about his muscles all the time is Chris Cuomo. The guy is the typical gym rat. Yeah. Oh, he is.
Starting point is 01:44:13 That is such a great explanation. Like, gym rat guy who thinks everyone, when he walks into a room, everyone's looking at his biceps. Like, that's who he thinks he is, along with the smartest man on earth and the best lawyer in the world. I'm going to bring Cliff Maloney in. He is the president of young Americans for Liberty. And you know who Chris Cuomo?
Starting point is 01:44:34 Do you even, I mean, because you're young Americans for Liberty, let me explain television. Television was this old thing that they used to have news and a place called CNN and people would watch it. Wow. Yeah. Any comments on Chris Cuomo before we move on to Venezuela and guns? Yeah, I mean, I think they're playing both sides because you're just being talked for that. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about an article that you wrote an opinion piece.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Venezuela is the poster child for gun control gone wrong. Amen. Thank you for saying this. You know, it's been funny, Glenn, I've gotten, you know, I didn't expect it to be as controversial as a topic. But, I mean, look, we all know gun control. You are going to have control. And if the government is going to dictate, you know, who does what, how they do it, when they can do it. Surprise, you know, I put this piece together.
Starting point is 01:46:01 I mean, you look back in 2012 in Venezuela. We know this. It means taking away the ability to defend yourself. And when it comes to a tyrannical government, and what you're seeing right now in Venezuela, people in Venezuela, I'm hearing from people, it's a perfect example. Conservatives and libertarians should not sit back. We always try to say, oh, you know, it's for hunting, and you hear the...
Starting point is 01:46:47 No, it's not. To defend ourselves against a tyrannical government, period. Can I tell you something? We were just talking about this yesterday. I am so sick of people say, oh, you're going to take on the jets and the United States of America. Yeah. You know, cave dwellers have been doing it pretty effectively for the last 20 years.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Yeah. Yeah. And we have more guns and we don't live in caves. I think we need to be honest about that and say, that's what that was for. It wasn't for hunting. It wasn't for hunting. sport, otherwise bowling might be in the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:47:27 It is about protecting yourself against a government gone insane. And you know what kills me, Glenn, is the hypocrisy of the left where they say, hey, the government should not have power because Trump is in charge. Oh, I know. But hold on. But if it's real power to the government, and I just, I can't handle this inconsistency for my friends on the left because it's like, look, You've got to stop giving your power as a citizen.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Your power can't just go with the whims of whether your party's in charge or your party's not in charge. It's worse. It's worse than that. They're advocating for now. Trump is an absolute dictator waiting to grab control. Let's turn in all of our guns right now. I mean, it's not like under Trump they've said, oh, let's slow down on taking guns. let's wait until our guy gets in.
Starting point is 01:48:28 They take them today. It's crazy. I give them too much credit. I give them too much credit. Nuts. It's just nuts. So what is the controversy been about this? Because I know if you point out, hey, there's a result of a socialist nation,
Starting point is 01:48:46 even though they were all on the record saying this is socialist utopia in Venezuela, now they claim it's not, that wasn't socialism. It was never socialism. Don't make me laugh. That was socialism. What is the pushback on the argument with you on gun control in Venezuela? Yeah, so the first point is what you said when it comes to. People say, oh, well, you really think this Second Amendment is really to defend against a tyrannical government. And to that I say, yes, and to the points that you made, I mean, but people really don't see that. And I'm not even talking just on the far left, but just, and pretty much any of my Democrat friends, it's, they really don't understand the government power when you centralize power and you need to, continuing to throw me the line.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Exactly, my comeback for the past week and a half is what you say, Glenn, and that is, in the country that is pushing for this Democrat socialism, call whatever you want, fence. This is socialism. This is government power, and this is a perfect example. Mr. Child, but I'm going wrong, but I'm not given him that. pass. And once again, I continue to tell my libertarian and conservative friends, do not back down, do not give them one inch on this issue. Example of the type of government control they want
Starting point is 01:50:37 and control at such a high level over. Talking to Cliff Maloney from Young Americans for Liberty, Cliff, it's an interesting thing because I think there is a, the natural sort of inertia of human beings is bondage. It's been bondage forever. And, you know, liberty's hard for a lot of people. And so a lot of times we slip back into this, since socialism has been around, there's always been times where it's flared up, even in the United States at some level, but all over the world. It's just fascinating to me. Can you explain it all the timing of while we're watching Venezuela essentially burn itself to the ground, now is the time where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is on the rise and Bernie Sanders is competing for the presidency. why, of all times right now, when we're seeing the worst failure of a government, I mean, even worse than Zimbabwe, they're saying, we're seeing that right now, and now's the time that the Americans are deciding to walk towards socialism. That young people get a bad rap. You know, we work with college students, and I think that, you know, polls will show you, like, 43% of American support some sort of socialism. them. And that should scare the hell out of us. Don't get me wrong. But I think what gives me some
Starting point is 01:52:00 hope is when you look at younger going towards, it's when you break it down issue by issue, they don't want the government taking 30 cents of every dollar they make. They don't want the government reading their emails or spying on their cell phones. They don't want the government, you know, spending these boatloads of money and running these trillion-dollar deficits. But what's happening is the socialist, I will admit this, they are winning the messaging battle. The socialists are winning the hearts and minds. They understand that everything is 30-second clips on Twitter. They're shortening things down.
Starting point is 01:52:37 I don't want to say they're dumbing it down, but I'm going to say it. That's what they're doing. They're dumbing down to pull on heartstrings. And look, Democrats have done this for years. The problem is the socialists are not hiding anymore. They're owning the label. And what this does is it gives an opportunity, and I'm going to be very careful how I say this, to free market capitalists.
Starting point is 01:52:59 The problem I've had is the crony capitalists over the years, they are such a problem for us in the Liberty Camp because the crony capitalist create this environment where now the left can use the tactic that they use on us and say, well, that, you know, now we have to say, well, that's why capitalism, that's like capitalism, that word I don't think should be used anymore. It's free markets, because that says everything. It's a market and it is free.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Right. And yeah, so I would agree that I think we have to reown that messaging. And we have to go out there and we have to say, look, socialism, you know, you can only paint so many pictures. You can only point directly to Venezuela and say, yeah, I mean, the capitalists and kind of the crony capitalist, they've made this battle so much harder and they've opened up to prevent socialism. But we should take this as an opportunity. And I would agree, let's own the free market mantra and let's show folks why it's the way forward. Thank you so much, Cliff. Appreciate it. We'll talk to you again. Cliff Maloney, he is for Young Americans for Liberty. He is the president of that is a great organization. Young Americans for Liberty.org. Y-A.liberty.org.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Thanks, Cliff. Talk to you again. Sponsor, this half hour is Goldline. You know, Stu just said a mouthful when he was just talking about how bad it is in Venezuela. worse than Zimbabwe. Now, they would not have believed that 15 years ago, that you could do that. That is how fast you can tube a nation with socialism and with money printing. And we are not anywhere close to out of the woods.
Starting point is 01:54:56 In fact, I think we're in the woods and people think we're out of the woods and we're about to go deeper into the woods. there is this new thing now that they're talking about of this new monetary policy theory. And the theory is they don't have to borrow money. You can just print money. What? Are you crazy? That is what happens to Zimbabwe. That's what happened in Venezuela.
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Starting point is 01:56:29 few years where UFOs were laughed at, conspiracy theory, blah, blah, blah. Now the government has sent several people out that are like, well, we're pretty sure. Wait, what? Pretty sure what? There's a, there's a guy who's come out, former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence. He was, uh, his name is, uh, melon, melon. What's his first name?
Starting point is 01:56:54 I don't know, melon, um, Christopher melon, water melon. I don't know. Anyway, he was talking about, and I want to quote, we know that UFOs exist. This is no longer an issue. The issue is, why are they here? Where are they coming from? And what is the technology behind these devices that we are observing?
Starting point is 01:57:15 We know that UFOs exist. That's no longer an issue. The issue is why are they here? Now, I'm not an expert, but I'm, I think, think there is a logical explanation of why they're here. It's the primary season for the Democratic Party, and they all, 20 of them, needed to get up on stage and run for president. It's part of their takeover.
Starting point is 01:57:43 We've seen 24 spaceships land in the last couple months. And they're all running for president of the United States as a Democrat. This makes more sense now. You're listening to Glenn.

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