The Glenn Beck Program - Masks, Blackface & Elon Musk: Double-Standard Insanity | 5/27/20

Episode Date: May 27, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Pat and Stewing for Glenn today. I want to tell you about built bars, and I've been being told about built bars for a very, very long, long time. My wife came to me a while ago. I was like, Bill bars, built bars, built bars. And she started buying them, and she's telling everybody about them constantly into the fact that at one point, she just sent me in with a box to give to Glenn to give to Tanya so that she could try them.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 AAA 727. B-E-C-K. All kinds of stuff to get to today. There are some angry people in this world. I'm not sure if you've noticed that. No. About what? Yeah. A great many things.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Among them, mask wearing. Because, of course, if you're not wearing a mask, you are deliberately trying to commit genocide. And that can't be tolerated. No. So we have to banish, at least banish everybody who won't wear a mask when they go outside. Or for that matter, even if you're inside. If you stay in your house all day, you should probably, you should be wearing a mask. Yeah, that was seemingly what Donald Trump was saying yesterday when he was talking about Biden.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Because Biden was wearing a mask outside in front of the cameras. And then afterward, Trump was saying that like, well, he's not wiring it inside with his wife. Which again, I don't think we're supposed to wear. I mean, I'm not wearing him inside with my wife either. I got to be honest about it. If we're supposed to be doing that, I'm not doing it. I know. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Well, I am trying to commit genocide. Why do you hate humanity? That's something else. Bizarre. Yeah, it's just, it's crazy. It's hard to keep track of what you're supposed to do. I had Shelley Luther on last night. She's the salon owner here in Dallas, who's the big story where she said, you know what,
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm going to open my shop, you know, damn the consequences. They put her in jail. Greg Abbott kind of came out to her defense and several other Republican officials. Got reversed and she spent, I think one day in jail. I was supposed to spend seven. And I was talking to her about her situation and she's doing, her business is obviously doing well. she's been in the spotlight. I think she's done a really good job handling this.
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's tough to get thrown into one of these situations. Yeah. And I think she's been a really good spokesperson for the idea of, look, this is my business. I got to be able to open it. We're doing our best to be safe. I'm trying to put food on the table for my family. Exactly. And you need people who are not crazy saying that, right?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like you need people who are. And she does seem really normal. Yeah, very, she's good. She's good on television. She's pretty. She's just a good. like a good spokesperson. And I felt bad for her, though, in a way, because as I was talking to her, I was realizing
Starting point is 00:04:02 that it was only two or three weeks ago that she, it feels like at least only two or three weeks ago that she was out doing this and she was reopening her shop. And she was making a very public showing of how she was wearing a mask when she was doing this and how she was sanitizing everything over and over again. And they were doing social distancing. She was doing every step perfectly. And it seems like in the last few weeks, the mode of the country has changed to almost be critical of that behavior as if it's a show of weakness, right? Like, there's no reason you can't
Starting point is 00:04:33 do these things and be safe at the same time. The mask thing is questionable. Like, you know, obviously the CDC has gone back and forth on it. But, you know, things like trying to stay apart, sanitizing as much as you can, you know, not shaking hands, not doing the Pat Gray makeout with Stranger thing. If you could stay away from some of those things, that's not a bad, we shouldn't criticize businesses for doing that, you know, that's a good thing. And she's still doing it and has had no issues. There's been some cases in other salons where maybe some of that stuff isn't going on and they have had issues.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So, like, this is not a, I don't think we should be critical of people who are saying, you know what, here's what we think is the best practices. And we're trying to do those things in a safe and responsible way. I think that's a good thing. And I think it's a good thing for our site to show that we're not trying to be reckless and, you know, put everybody at, I don't want to be necessarily the people that they showed in the pool in the Ozarks or whatever the Lake of the Ozarks the other day. Or it was like 9,000 people for a million reasons.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like I just, I can't even imagine how much urine is in the pool. I don't want to be a part of that scene when there is no virus. I wouldn't go into that pool if it cured the virus. It looked at it. I don't know. Just too many people. You know how many other diseases you'd get. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Too many people, Pat. Too many drinks. Long day. They're not getting out to the bathroom for every one of those stops. That's just not happening. Yeah. So I want to avoid it. for that reason, mainly.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But yeah, the other side of it is probably worse in that you saw the woman in the grocery store just get berated for not having a mask on. Man. And, you know, it's funny when you look at the, you know, well, you want to take the science and be responsible, right? The mask, I think, you know, the science shows that there's some improvement. It's not, it's not, it's not, and it's, the mask isn't going to save you in every situation, but there's an improvement.
Starting point is 00:06:23 On the other side of that, one thing that is definitely shown is, loud talking can create thousands of droplets that can carry the virus. So when you're screaming at someone for not wearing a mask, you are definitely doing something more dangerous than not wearing a mask. Like the guy in the grocery store. Yeah. All the people around. And the woman wasn't wearing the mask.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And the guy is standing six feet from her. But then he pulls down his mask and is yelling at the top of his lungs at her. Much worse. Spewing stuff all over the place. Much worse. Really bad. You know, but it doesn't matter. Again, it's not about.
Starting point is 00:06:56 the virus or the science or anything, it's turning into this weird tribal thing where like you, you know, if you see someone with a mask, it's okay to be a jerk to them. Because if they don't have a mask on, then they're just awful. They're trying to kill everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So we might as well berate them because it shows our moral superiority over them. Like that is not how you're supposed to look at this. But it is, it seems irresistible for the American people at this point. We'll have to play MSNBC in Wisconsin. Did you see the report? Oh, I love this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 From MSNBC. This is amazing. I don't want to spoil the surprise. We'll get to that coming up in about one minute. This is the Glenn Beck program. You know, the last few months have really reminded us what's important in life. It's also helped us understand what we can eliminate or change. It's the same for business.
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Starting point is 00:09:17 not, you're akin to Adolf Hitler. And so... Times 10. Yes. Yes. You're worse than He. Adolf Hitler times Edia mean plus Pol Pot times Enverhocha.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Excuse me? Times Enverhocha. Enverhocha. Yeah. What was he? He was Romania? No. Oh, God, now I'm killing myself with it. I just did this. We just didn't think I did a spot with a guy last night that wrote a book called,
Starting point is 00:09:47 oh, gosh, it's something like dinner with dictators or, I can't remember the name of it, but he tracked down the personal chefs of five murderous dictators and interviewed them all, Saddam Hussein's personal chef, eating mean, and Verhojo's wives in my head. And they're all still alive, apparently? Yeah, they're all still alive. Somehow they made it through that experience. Okay. And so talking about them from behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:10:10 amazing people. And from my understanding, they're basically, their worst thing they ever did was not wear a mask. In every case. In every case. All five of them didn't wear masks.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Oh, wow. And that's why they were so evil. What bad people. Yeah. Well, MSNBC did a report on how bad these people are. And particularly, I guess, in Wisconsin, they're so, they're so evil in Wisconsin
Starting point is 00:10:39 that many people walk around out in the open, without masks. And here's the report. You'll be shocked. So are the people there just not worried about it, Cal? Are they not worried about their own personal safety? I haven't met anybody who is. I met some folks actually from Lake Geneva who lived in the area. They were staying a few miles outside of town where I were. And they said they're worried about it. They're worried about that second spike. They're worried about folks coming in from Chicago. But they'll quickly add at the same time, this is a place that relies on that business. I think people here want a little bit more funding when it comes to these programs so that they
Starting point is 00:11:10 could stay closed, but again, I think people felt like the Supreme Court made the decision here in Wisconsin that it was time to open up. You can see, here. You see, here. Look at that. Nobody's wearing them. Look at that guy. There you go, including the cameraman.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah. Pause it right there. So, they pan around to some passerby who's filming them because he notices that, oh, by the way, your own crew isn't doing what you're accusing all of us of doing. So. I love that. Because you're watching this video, if you're not watching on blazed TV.com slash Glenn, if you're watching, you see this guy pass by and turn around and it looks like a shark is circling his prey. Because you know what's coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And he kind of just walks around back there and he turns back the other way and it's like, he's right behind you. You know, like I want to scream out to the reporter. Look out! He's coming! Because this guy just absolutely destroys him. His own cameraman isn't wearing a mask. So these people just aren't wearing masks, including your own cameraman. And the reporter, including my own camera.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That was my point. That was what I was saying. Is it even a cameraman's not doing it? Yeah. Thank you for pointing that out. I was going to get to that in a second. The hypocritical crew from MSNBC is caught red-handed. Let's see the rest of this.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's amazing. Nobody's wearing, nobody's, there you go, including the cameraman. Yeah. Katie? Yeah. He's so pissed off. He is. Breaking images.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Cal Perry, Cal, thank you very much. And Kathy Park, you are. Okay, so then there's a little bit more where he walks around, and you see him walking around showing the, not just the cameraman who has no mask on, but okay, here it is. Oh, this is his video now. Yeah, so this is from the guy showing the cameraman with no mask. and the MSNBC tripod operator has no mask.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Amazing. Oh, wow, this is, I have not seen this view yet. Including the cameraman. There you go. There you go. Exactly. That guy's got one on. Half the crew is not wearing.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But half the crew is not. I love that. That's incredible. I just, I absolutely love that. Same thing happened with a CNN reporter who did a shot on the beach, live shot on the beach. wearing the mask, and then people took pictures of him walking back to his car with the mask in his hand. And look, that is the correct approach. There is no reason to believe wearing a mask outside in the sun is beneficial in really any way. You want to be a little extra careful
Starting point is 00:13:53 and be, you know, take an extra step. All right, whatever. But there's no reason to shame anybody in that situation. Right. It's completely ridiculous. It's just virtue signaling. That's it. And they been doing this on television over and over and over again. When you are outside by yourself, there is no reason to be wearing a mask on television. It's absolutely ridiculous. There's no, you know, they did a study. We talked about this last night as well. There's a study of, it was 318 outbreaks in China.
Starting point is 00:14:24 One of them started outside. One. One of them. And the quote unquote outbreak was two people. Okay. It is not, it's just not one of these situations where it's easily spread. Now, it's not impossible. It doesn't mean you should never take a precaution.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But, like, this is the type of activity the government should be encouraging during this time. Hey, you can't all jam into a tiny bar inside and listen to cover bands. You know, it would be great, though. Go to a beach. You know, you could be outside. Give a little room between you to be extra safe, but most likely you're going to be okay there. That's the type of thing they should be encouraging. Instead, it's become, as you pointed out, Pat, this, this, this, like, little way of preaching your virtue to everyone else.
Starting point is 00:15:05 by showing your mask on television. And it doesn't help anybody. It's just them trying to show that they're on that team. That's it. Yeah. And I love the fact that their hypocrisy is just laid bare for everybody to see because they always come into these situations with an agenda. But do they really believe in what they're saying?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Clearly no. No. No. They don't. And I wouldn't be surprised if that reporter, only wore the mask for the report and took it off immediately after that. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all. He might not because at this particular point, because he'd been exposed.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And so then he probably left it on. But I'll bet the rest of the time he was in Wisconsin, he's not wearing a mask. Now, any news director worth his salt today is going to his crew and saying, you guys have that mask on the entire time. It does not come off for any reason because they're going to catch you. You know, it's like, it's like, hey, we're planned parenthood. We're auctioning off baby parts. Hey, guys, if someone comes in and they look like James O'Keefe, don't sell them anything.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Like, there has to be a point where you get caught. You need to be able to say, hey, guys, take extra steps to defend against this. You have to imagine these people have gone through this conversation now. This has happened how many times, Pat? We played multiple videos just like this where you guys do the hits with their masks on and then take them off. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. AAA 727BECK. It's Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glembeck program. So what's the number one sign of a bad home security system?
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Starting point is 00:18:02 Pat and Stu in for Glenn this week. He's on vacation. By the way, he's driving me crazy. Enverhocha. Albania. He was an Albanian dictator. But the best part about this guy, Pat, was he became convinced he was going to get, Albania was going to get invaded by opposed, you know, outside forces and to try to
Starting point is 00:18:19 take over his country. So before there was any war or any. anything, he decided to build bunkers everywhere so that the people could hide in them and fight back if they needed to. So he built 173,000 bunkers all across the country. And they all look the same. There's like these little, they look like gray pimples on the, on the landscape all over the country. And now after he died and he was out of power, they're all in disrepair. Some of them been repurposed to stores and like, you know, places where people live. Some of them have been repurposed. But the vast majority of them are just in disrepresent.
Starting point is 00:18:52 repair, but they're all over the place with the idea of like, hey, we got to be ready. And then they never had the war that they were thinking they were going to have and never utilize them. 173,000 of these things. Wow. So anyway, that's part of his story. Nice. Did he wear a mask, though?
Starting point is 00:19:08 Did he wear a mask? Of course not. He was a dictator. Oh, wow. That's what they do. Wow. These people will, because they want, you know, they have to scream their really loud speeches and pound their fist on the table.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's hard to do with a mascot. It's very true. And it's reminiscent of Ralph, Northam who mandated the people when they go outside in his state wear masks and then he is walking around taking selfies with people not wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:19:33 The hypocrisy is amazing. Incredible. But then we find out from Geraldo Rivera why wearing a mask is so very important. Here's Geraldo's thoughts on mask wearing. Maybe this is the secret to get people to
Starting point is 00:19:47 wear masks. Just get one that has special resonance in your personality, be whoever you want to be, be banged teeth, be buffed teeth, be, you know, beautiful teeth, be gangbanger teeth, whatever it takes to get you to wear the mask. Just do it. Just do it. I was thinking about President Trump not wearing a mask. As a practical matter in the bubble in which he lives with everyone around him being tested
Starting point is 00:20:14 and vetted and keeping their social distance and so forth, there's very little likelihood at this point the president will contract the virus. So wearing a mask isn't a practical matter, but it's symbolic. The president refusing to wear a mask a mask makes us feel foolish for wearing a mask. I think it should lead by example. I don't think that is liberals. I guess. I think the fact of the matter is wearing a mask is helpful.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It is also a fact of the matter that fro Trump areas in the country have. have fewer infections, a lower infection rate than anti-Trump areas of the country. That's a definite fact. There is a political component to the push to reopen America, and it's understandable that it falls on ideological lines. You know, it's just one of those things. Red America, not so infected, blue America much more infected. Why is Red America not as infected?
Starting point is 00:21:18 When we're not wearing masks, it's because. red states are run better and they're doing some of the right things whereas in the blue states not so much you got people like quomo uh who is sending coronavirus victims to nursing homes to uh kill the people in nursing homes which happened by the thousands by the thousands and you know look it's been a this has been a major story about nursing homes right i mean about half the deaths are at this point are our nursing homes around the country uh so it's been uh really really really bad. Cuomo, a few other states, I think Pennsylvania did this. I think New Jersey did it as well. Same type of guaranteed import of positive patients into the nursing homes policy, which is a huge
Starting point is 00:22:04 disaster. I mean, it's going to be probably the worst single decision of the entire pandemic, I think. Because without that, if you, like, if you, if we had tests at the beginning of this and we were just cordoning off nursing homes basically completely, this is a totally different picture. 38 million people unemployed, there's not 100,000 people dead. Right. You know, neither one of those things are true if just a couple of steps are taken that are a little smarter than things like Andrew Cuomo did. And even though Cuomo is trying to blame Trump for that decision, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:22:36 We actually have the evidence of his health order that mandates that they, they start sending these victims to the nursing homes. It's amazing. All right, Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. No matter where you are in the U.S., Memorial Day weekend is happening everywhere, and Blinds.com, the number one online retailer of custom window treatments in the world is celebrating with their Memorial Day savings. Blinds.com makes it simple to shop top-quality interior blind, shade, shutters, and outdoor shades,
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Starting point is 00:24:02 Blinds.com. Your daily antidote to the socialism virus. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Join the conversation. 888727 Beck. It is Pat and Stu. And for Glenn, who's on vacation this week, a fascinating graphic released by Pew Research, Pat,
Starting point is 00:24:29 looking at the COVID deaths in red and blue districts. So for some reason, this is a thing we're doing now where we're just breaking this along political. lines to try to prove points, I guess, on politics. I don't even understand what the point of something like this would be. But I guess the idea from their perspective is, look, let's illustrate the fact that there's been a big decrease in Democratic districts and there hasn't been a big decrease in Republican districts.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's the attempt here. It says since mid-April, COVID-19 deaths have declined in Democratic districts, but have been relatively stable in Republican districts. And they have a helpful graph to illustrate what has happened. Now, anyone who would think about this for a moment would say, well, the worst stuff happened in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. And yes, they've had a big decrease, but from a terrible peak, right? So you would say, okay, a lot of Democratic districts there, it would make sense they were decreasing. Where in a state like Texas, that never had a huge flare up, it wouldn't make sense for them to decrease, decrease from what?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Right? Like they have... It was already low. It was already low. That would be, you're just right off the top of your head, impressing. of someone who said that, right? Yes. Well, shockingly enough, that is exactly what the graph shows.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And the graph actually illustrates that the Republican peak in deaths was two per, I believe it's, let's see, yeah, average. Two per hundred thousand? Yeah, I'm trying to think of it's, I think it's, I think it's two per million or two per hundred thousand. Two per hundred thousand, I don't know. The graph is not labeled exactly correctly. But point being, the whatever ratio they're used.
Starting point is 00:26:09 using here. Two for the Republicans was the peak. And it is decreased slightly to 1.7. Okay. On the Democratic side, it peaked at 7.4. So that is almost four times as many as it ever was in a Republican district. And it has decreased largely because of that northeast area down to 4.1. But still, more than twice as high as the peak, more than twice as high as the peak. Which situation would you rather have. Would you rather have the Republican situation where you peak at two and fall to 1.7? Or would you rather have the Democratic situation where you peak at 7.4 and decrease to 4.1? Now that is obviously, it's obvious when you look at the graph. You'd much rather have the Republican situation. The deaths have been much, much lower. How do you title that graph,
Starting point is 00:26:59 the summary being that there's been a decrease in Democratic districts, but stable in Republican? Because the impression you're trying to send. What are you trying to send there? What's the impression. Republican governors have opened up the states. Yeah. And they're paying the price. Right. Which is obviously not the story of that graph. The story of that graph is Democrats handled this poorly at the beginning, waited too long. We had people like Andrew Cuomo who, I mean, who I hate to criticize Andrew Cuomo by saying Bill de Blasio was right on something. But Cuomo was out there lighting Bill de Blasio up saying we were never going to close
Starting point is 00:27:37 New York and then four days later closes New York, right? They blew this from the beginning in the worst possible way. We talked about the nursing home policy. We talked about it wasn't until mid-May where they were saying, you know what? Big new policy announcement. We're going to clean
Starting point is 00:27:55 the subway cars. Wow! What a brilliant idea there, Andy. That's a... Wow! You're right on the cutting edge of fighting this virus. after you already have tens of thousands of dead. You think you might clean a subway car.
Starting point is 00:28:12 What a good idea. That's a good idea, Andrew. Oh, he is the worst. I'm doing more on the Andrew Cuomo timeline on Studez America tonight. Because last time I did it, I think we talked about this on Friday. I started in March. I was going to do the entire timeline of all of his mistakes. And I could only get through the first two weeks of March.
Starting point is 00:28:30 So now I need to do the second two weeks of March and we'll go from there. This series could end. after the election, I think. This could take 18 months. It could. It could. Listen to this, though. Very rarely do we hear a news network come out, make one of these accusations like they made against Georgia and Texas and Florida.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And when it doesn't go their way, and their way is a bunch of people dying. So think about what their way is for a second. But when it doesn't go their way, they never revisit it, right? They just move on. Like they hit Georgia. They said there's going to be a huge outbreak. Didn't happen. then they said, okay, well, what about Texas? That didn't happen. What about Florida? That hasn't
Starting point is 00:29:09 happened. All these things have gone on over and over again because they find the red state governors. Now, Colorado has a Democratic governor who opened the state right around the times of these other states and has had no criticism whatsoever. Minnesota is having a much worse time right now with COVID-19 than any of these southern states and they don't get any criticism either because that's just the way this works. I will give a little bit of credit to NBC News who actually revisited their Georgia predictions the other night. Did they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And their tone was they actually said there was no major spike in cases, which is good. And the fact that they did that is something. We have very low expectations of the media at this point. And the fact that they would even acknowledge that they said these things in retrospect is impressive. However, one of the things, if you remember, when they, when Georgia started opening up salons and such, they said a lot of people were critical. If you remember famously,
Starting point is 00:30:08 the Atlantic ran a headline that said Georgia's experiment in human sacrifice. That was their headline. And that was the tone of the coverage all over the left, including on MSNBC, part of NBC News, who spent day after day after day after day lighting this up, really heavy criticism. And they do acknowledge the criticism,
Starting point is 00:30:29 listen to the end to hear, which criticism they highlight. Last month, Georgia was one of the first states to reopen and with the most aggressive approach, allowing barbershops, restaurants, tattoo parlors, and more to welcome customers. The criticism came in droves. I told the governor very simply that I disagree with this decision, but he has to do what he thinks is right. Oh! Oh, the one piece of criticism they could find him, Georgia, was President Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. Right? Because he's been this guy who's been all over. over anti-opening the economy up. They couldn't find anything from Rachel Maddow on their own network. They couldn't find anything from Chris Hayes on their own network. They couldn't find anything from NBC News. They couldn't find anything.
Starting point is 00:31:12 They couldn't find that Atlantic headline. They couldn't find the dozens and dozens of headlines saying everyone was going to die in Georgia. The only thing they could they could muster up for criticism was the one time President Trump said, I think you're opening up tattoo parlors and massage parlors a little early. That's the only thing that when it came to, that was the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the thrust of all the criticism, if you remember, Pat, and I'm glad they brought that back off. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It really is pathetic. Just admit it. Like, you should, shouldn't we all be thrilled? You were wrong on that. You know, and it's not to say that they will not have a flare up at some point. They may. But clearly, your impression of what reality was was incorrect here. If you had looked at the mobility data, you would realize that almost every state in
Starting point is 00:32:01 the U.S. is coming out of lockdown at the same pace, whether the governor says so or not. And that has to do with people realizing, you know what, we can't sit in here forever. We need to go do these things. Let's just be careful. And that's happening all over the country. And so it wouldn't be surprising to you if you understood the data that it's not one of these things where the governor says, okay, the state's open and everyone rushes to the doors.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's not what happens. People aren't doing that. The same thing was true when we went into lockdown. people went into lockdown before the governors said they had to go into lockdown because they were trying to be careful with their own lives. Same thing here. They're trying to get to be careful with their own economy. They're trying to get out there and be careful and go back to work.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And none of this should be surprising to you if you followed this story at any level of depth. You know, if you're just sitting here in this normal back and forth cable news box thing where two boxes are on one side, I think we should open it up. I think we should close it down. If that's your life, well then you're not going to understand the story. at all. When you look at the data, there's no difference between, you know, a state like Georgia, as far as coming out and being more mobile and visiting retail stores and all these other things. And tons of other states. There's not really a difference. There are certain areas they've opened
Starting point is 00:33:16 up that are different than other states. But generally speaking, there would be no reason to believe Georgia would have a big outbreak anyway, as opposed to another state. But they don't care about that. That's not their goal. Their goal is to try to trash the president, trash Republicans, teams, teams, teams, teams, teams. It's just unending. Yeah. And usually they don't even, once they've made their prediction that all hell's going to break loose in Georgia because they're opening up way too soon. And then when that doesn't happen, when all hell doesn't break loose, they usually don't even go back and report on that. So they don't say anything about it. It's, it's kind of amazing that anything was said by the media, even though, you know, they use Trump as their, as their
Starting point is 00:33:57 proof on people attacking them. I'm beating them. I'm beating that report. about that part of it, but I do actually legitimately appreciate when they do that. And it does add to their credibility. Yes. You know, it really does. You at least will listen to them. If more of these news networks said, you know what, gosh, we really thought this was going to happen. And we were totally wrong on it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm not sure why. We're going to try to figure it out and get it right next time. That goes a long way with people. I think people are fine with that approach. I think so. You know, I mean, that's what we try to do. There's been plenty of times that we've blown stuff. And you just go on and you say, look, look, this is why I thought it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You heard my rationale. Right. And this is what I'll try to do next time to get better. That's all you can do. Yeah. Because when it doesn't fit the agenda, they are so good at just not reporting it, pretending it didn't happen. For instance, what YouTube is doing with hydroxychloroquine,
Starting point is 00:34:51 where they just censored the video where medical doctors, these are doctors saying hydroxychloroquine might help treat COVID-19. So they remove that part of the video from the YouTube videos. I mean, wait. Well, it definitely might. We're in the middle of, you know, scientists that are in the middle of dozens of studies on hydroxychloroquine right now, including a statewide study in South Dakota. But, I mean, it's not just a statewide study here. I mean, it's all over the world.
Starting point is 00:35:22 They've been studying this. So this was a Cheryl Atkison at full measure news report. And she was examining the possible. benefits of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment and the possible financial interest some parties have in downplaying the drug and promoting a separate treatment, the Remdesivir. You notice they're not bashing that. Yeah, that's a weird one too, because that was, Remdesivir was mentioned by Trump in the same press conference as hydroxychloroquine.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Right. I mean, you know, this idea that Trump is out there promoting hydroxychloroquine because he's trying to be right and show that he, you know, he also called the. a remdissevere thing and remdesivir has shown a clinical study that has improved outcomes. Now, there's been some studies of hydroxychloroquine that have showed mixed results, some really good, some not so great. Right. But like I, like Trump, Trump's quote unquote false hope from that press conference was not
Starting point is 00:36:18 false. I mean, Fauci came out and said the exact same thing. It had helped some people. It had helped some people. We know there was an ABC News executive who was, who claims it cured him. You know, there's a study in France of a very well-respected doctor who's a little bit of a renegade. So there's questions about whether he's right or wrong on this. But he had a study that showed incredible improvement by hydroxychloroquine.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And revdic, but like, like, they were trying to say this thing where Trump gets blamed for hydroxychloroquine if it doesn't work out, but gets no credit for remdesivir, which he also mentioned in the same press conference if it does work out, which both Fauci and Burks have talked about the benefits of remdesivir already. And by the way, there are some drawbacks to remdissevere as well. And they're not talking about those, but anything about hydroxychloroquine that they can say, like, people die from it. Well, yeah, if you don't know how to administer it or you administer it wrong and not in conjunction with the right combination of drugs, then, yeah, bad things can happen. Certainly generally safe to take. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You know, I mean, it's been taking it for 70 years. Yeah. People with lupus have to take it every day. People with certain types of, all sorts of ailments, you know, take it. You know, malaria is obviously the one it was initially designed for, but it's not just used for that. Look, why wouldn't we try these things? You go back to what Trump has said many, many times, which is, let's look into this stuff. I don't know. I mean, doctors don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Let's test it. And so they are testing it. And we may find out that it doesn't help anybody, or maybe it only helps a very small subset of people. Whatever it does, let's find out, we're in the middle of a crisis here. let's find out. Why would we dismiss it? It's another one of these dumb things. Make any sense.
Starting point is 00:37:59 That they've just made like the Democrat team doesn't like hydroxychloroquine for some reason. Why? Who cares? Because Trump mentioned it. Because Trump mentioned it. That's it. Fizarre. That's it. You're listening to Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 00:39:46 There's a lot. I just don't understand why there are so many. Because they did blackface a lot. I guess very often. Yeah. All the time. It was perfectly acceptable back, I guess. Although when was, when was the Whoopi Goldberg and,
Starting point is 00:40:02 I remember that. Ted Danson. Yeah. Incident. In the 90s, had to be in the 90s. Yes. I think it was. And people were a little upset about that.
Starting point is 00:40:12 but nobody, it seems, I don't remember any outrage over Fallon's appearance on Saturday Night Live in 2000 when he dresses up in Blackface. Not only did he dress up in Blackface, but then he imitates a black man, Chris Rock. And he does a relatively good job at it actually. He does a very good job at. But then in addition to that, the joke is about how you can't invite people on who wants to be a millionaire that are black because you'd have to ask them questions like, how much crack did Rick James do? Like, holy crap. Wait, what? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Really? Those are the questions you would ask? Like, is that? Okay, that's all right. I just want to make sure I understand that. It does not feel all right to me. But that is, you know, again, do I think Jimmy Fallon is a racist? No.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But, I mean, the difference here in the way this is treated is fascinating. We should get into that a little bit today. Yeah, that's because it is amazing. I mean, we've talked about the devil standard a billion times. But it's really amazing how often. the double standard is put into practice. AAA 727 BECK. More Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program coming up.
Starting point is 00:41:22 With Pat and Stu this week, AAA 727 BECK. A video that's not new, but it's about 20 years old from Saturday Night Live where Jimmy Fallon dresses up in Blackface for a bit has resurfaced for some reason. It's kind of interesting that it would come up right now. but here's an instant where NBC apparently didn't feel the same way in 2000 as they felt in 2018 about Blackface.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Because Jimmy Fallon still has a job. Whereas you look at somebody like Megan Kelly, whose crime was so egregious. She actually talked about Blackface. She asked a question about being in Blackface. And the question was, if someone were to dress up, a kid, I think they were talking about kids, weren't they, at the time, it was Halloween. And they were saying if someone were to dress up to essentially honor someone who they appreciated from a different race. Like Diana Ross, for instance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 If you were to dress up as Diana Ross and you use Blackface, would that be the same? That was basically your question, right? Yes. And that question was so horrible. It was akin to murder. Right. They had to go after her. was.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And get rid of her. Which is amazing. Now, we, of course, have covered how many other times this has popped up, whether you are headed the state of Georgia or Virginia or the country of Canada or whether you are Jimmy Kimmel with Carl Malone. Oh, yeah. That's right. Totally fine.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Oh, man. Totally fine. And again, there was no, there wasn't even, it had nothing to do with Megan Kelly's question. Megan Kelly's question was about something much less controversial, right? Like, let's say a kid who's dressing up and maybe he doesn't even understand the lines there and dresses up as someone they appreciate or even an adult doing that, but in a complementary way. These were always critical or mocking the person who they were impersonating.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Carl Malone was just being shown basically as dumb. The whole joke was like he can't talk. Right, right. That was the whole joke about Carl. Malone. Jimmy Kimmel in Blackface is saying Carl Malone can't talk. That was, there was nothing more to it. It wasn't, there was no larger point.
Starting point is 00:43:46 There was no, I mean, like Sarah Silverman, who is a comedian as well and super left as well, apparently lost a job because she dressed up in Blackface as well. I don't know if you're recognizing a pattern here on the people who are using the Blackface situation. But I mean, you know, Silverman, I think has a real argument to say it's ridiculous. she was doing a bit essentially mocking racists, right? Like you are, yes, she's utilizing Blackface. She's using it in a way to mock people who are, who are racist.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That is a, should be a, if you're going to use Blackface, that would be the one time you'd think you'd be able to do it. Now, I don't know why you'd want to do it. Not something that I, that I've ever entertained. But apparently everybody in Hollywood's like, I can't wait. We're not going to find a reason to use this. It's going to be wonderful. But Sarah Silverman is making a point against racism
Starting point is 00:44:38 and she's still losing jobs because of it. Jimmy Fallon is now, his tape has come out. He has famously done a Chris Rock impression before on Saturday Live. This time he did it in a very interesting way visually. Here it is. Rock, now we're talking. Where is it? Man, oh, man, riddispoo!
Starting point is 00:44:59 I've seen who wants to be a millionaire. Guess what? Not a lot of black folks on the show. Right. Not a lot of black folks on the show. You know why? Because black folks don't like to answer questions. All they want to be millionaires,
Starting point is 00:45:11 but you got to ask that kind of question. Like, in 1981, how many grounds of crack did Rick Jay and smoke when he recorded Super Free? You think the only way to get a brother on the show is to name it, who wants $50 cash in a pair of Pooleman? I mean, that's just, those are just jokes.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Again, that's just racially oriented, stereotypical jokes. Like, black people. know a lot about crack is the joke. Yeah. That's what the joke is there. The black people know a lot about crack and black people like sneakers. Again, like, do I think that Jimmy Fallon is a racist?
Starting point is 00:45:48 No. Would Chris Rock actually make some of those jokes? Maybe. I mean, Chris Rock does a lot of that type of humor. He's doing an impression of Chris Rock. But the double standard is impossible to ignore here. Impossible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You know, Jimmy Fallon, there's no reason to. believe he's some big racist that's doing these sorts of things. But it is a situation where Megan Kelly for asking a question on the same network gets fired. And this is, this is something they're actually airing. Not that long ago. This is not 1975 we're going back to. It's in the century. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:27 You know, 20 years ago. It's an amazing development yet again. It is. And he's apologized for it. He has. Yeah. But so did Megan Kelly, and that didn't do her any good. No. But I'm sure all is forgiven already with Jimmy Fallon is perfectly fine.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Don't worry about it. You know, if you play by their standards, he should be fired. Right? If you're going to apply the same standard to everybody else as you applied to Megan Kelly, then he has to go to. And look, their standards suck. And I don't want to embrace them. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I don't either. I don't either. And I think, you know, with Megan Kelly, they utilized that moment because they didn't like her reporting that was critical of NBC for sexual harassment and other things. I think they utilized that as a way to target her. So there are other things at play here. But you're right, Pat. I mean, it's hypocrisy is, it's immeasurable.
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Starting point is 00:49:13 I'm quoting Megan Kelly right now. You can't wear anything Mexican-based. You cannot dress as a Native American. That's apparently been some rule for a long time. You can't dress as a none. I mean, isn't the purpose of Halloween to dress up and pretend you're something other than yourself? To which the studio audience applauded. But what is racist?
Starting point is 00:49:35 She asked. Because truly, you do get in trouble if you're a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween or a black person who puts on white face for Halloween. Like, back when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as like, A character. So again, why isn't this person in prison right now? Why isn't she in the middle of some chain gang? Yeah. Break it rocks.
Starting point is 00:50:00 The only thing you can think of to do in this situation. I just can't. It's hard to get over. You know, it's like I don't understand why there are so many examples of this. It just seems like it's constant. You know, to me, though, one of the things that always gets lost in these in these moments is what is the actual intent what is the motivation behind what the person is trying to do they'll be like oh you know what that context
Starting point is 00:50:28 doesn't matter it always matters it always matters you know it matters in complete like if you catch someone saying the end word really really bad right well if they're quoting someone else is it as bad probably not right like if you're quoting a court trial that you know it's probably not as bad the context does matter. What is the intent of the person? The intent of Megan Kelly is to ask an honest question as to why we draw these lines. This is why she mentions, right?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Black people dressing up is in white face. Well, not very common. And apparently not at all offensive, considering the movie White Chicks came out and was totally accepted, at least at that time. I don't know that you could do that again. Maybe you could coming the other way. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:13 But her intent clearly there is just to, let's investigate our own moral lines to see if they make sense, right? That's all she's doing there. Yeah. With Jimmy Fallon, is his intent to go out there and just say, you know what, black people are bad? I don't think so. That would not be consistent with anything I know about the guy. It seems to be that he's trying to imitate the style of comedy and the voice of Chris Rock,
Starting point is 00:51:40 who would do material like that, and it would be fine because it would be acceptable for him to do that type of material, right? That is important. Look, but you go to Ralph Northam, what's his intent? What's the intent of what's his face? Trudeau in Canada. You know, I mean, these were,
Starting point is 00:51:58 these are a little bit different, I think, when it comes to those stories. And what was the intent, like you mentioned, with Jimmy Kimmel? Yeah, that one was just to call a black person dumb over and over again. Carl Malone. He was literally calling him illiterate.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. At least. Illiterate. And we were making fun of Joe Biden because he's had, I don't know if you've noticed this a few issues on this racial area. Really? Because apparently you're not black if you consider voting for someone else, which is an amazing amazing thing to discover, I think, for many African Americans around the country. Wow, I didn't realize I was not black.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And I didn't realize it was he who decides. Yes. I didn't know Joe Biden decided that kind of thing. I didn't know that either. But you go back to his commentary on Barack Obama when he said, look, this is the first, you know, clean, articulate black man. It's a storybook. Well, you know, articulate is, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:50 like a word that, God forbid, a Republican never utilized it. And it's, you know, speak coherently is the definition of it. To speak coherently. Well, this is exactly what Jimmy Kimmel was doing in his frequent appearances on his shows as Carl Malone, where he would talk about how the guy couldn't speak. He couldn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He's referring to himself in third person all the time. I mean, one of the best basketball players of all time, Hall of Famer, very underrated. Yes. Top 15 player, maybe a top 10 player. For sure. Great all time player. And seemingly, by all reports, a really good guy. No reason.
Starting point is 00:53:27 There wasn't like he was involved in a massive scandal that he was going after him. He just went after him because he thought he talked funny as a black person. Which is completely unacceptable. Unless you're Jimmy Kimmel. You know what? He really liked Obamacare. So it's okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You know, he really doesn't like the Republicans. He's mean to them all the time, so that's fine. But you think Jimmy Kimmel gives a break to some Republican who's dressing up as a black person to make fun of the way he talks? I mean, do I even have to say the words? It's so blatantly obvious he would not treat that as an okay thing to do. But apparently we're all just supposed to ignore it. That's our role here is just to sit back and just say, oh, we shouldn't point that out. you'd get some more credibility
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Starting point is 00:56:10 Not that I know of. No? No. You eat a lot of birds. Yes. Well, you know that I'm mostly vegetarian like you. Yeah. But yeah, a few birds.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Like chicken. Yep. Just chickens. And pheasant. I've had some pheasant. You know, I'll eat a little fish. Sure. That's not a bird, though.
Starting point is 00:56:27 No, but that's not a bird. Yeah. But I'm just, you know, mostly. That's one of your rules that you occasionally will break as a vegetarian. Yes. Yes. As well as, you know, some pig pork product. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Ham, and sausage kind of things. Often on the same sandwich. Yes. Then, of course, beef, you know, burgers, steaks, roast. But you've never eaten... Brisket.
Starting point is 00:56:48 A duck-billed platypus, for example. I've never eaten a polar bear. Or any manner of bear. A pangolin from Wuhan? No. Never. Even though you have a condo in Wuhan. You've never stopped by the wet market.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I have a pangolin for dinner. I have not. And people find that hard to believe. But it's true. Because you're vegetarian leanings. That's why. Yes. That's the only reason.
Starting point is 00:57:07 That's right. So this guy is in the, and he's looking, you know, it's like bird watching, right? This is what they're doing in this area. And this area is designated so people can look at birds. So you can't let your dog walk through without a leash because they'll eat the birds. They'll chase them down and eat the bird. And so he seems to be encouraging this woman by filming her with his phone to put her dog on a leash. She's pissed off by this.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Doesn't want to be filmed. Yeah. And basically says, I'm going to call the police on you and tell them an African-American. is threatening me and my dog. And then she does it. She actually calls the police and says an African American is threatening me, my dog. And what's interesting about this is, you know, she's now had massive repercussions. She's lost her job, which you said pat, $170,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah. A big gig in a financial firm. Mm-hmm. That's one. She has had to give her dog back to the humane society because, you know, she was kind of holding the dog. She obviously wasn't not focused on the dog. but she's holding the dog back with the leash
Starting point is 00:58:09 and sort of looking like she was strangling the dog. That was not a comfortable position for this dog to be in. And people were pointing out it looked borderline abusive. And so now we're at the point where her life has been completely ruined over this experience. She did not seem like she was in the right in it. It's a scary thing that she feels that it's okay and effective to essentially threaten the police to come.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And she's almost pointing it out in a way of like, if I tell them an African-American is harassing me, they're going to believe me because you're black, which is not a good look, and hopefully is not true by most police officers. And certainly none that I've ever talked to, but there are examples of this, as we will talk about this hour.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So this goes through this whole situation. Her life has now been, you know, destroyed over this interaction that I think pretty obviously was on her. Now we've actually escalated to this point where the guy who was filming her initially is like, okay, this is enough. Like, she's had enough here, guys. I'm the guy she was criticizing.
Starting point is 00:59:13 That's really cool of him to. Really cool. Really cool. To say that. But here's the incident that happened. Here's what happened in Central Park. Would you please stop? Sir, I'm asking you to stop. Please don't come close to me.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Sir, I'm asking you to stop recording me. Please take your phone off. Please don't come close to me. Can I pick you pictures calling the cops? Please, please call the cops. please call the cops I'm gonna tell them there's an African-American man
Starting point is 00:59:40 threatening my life please tell them whatever you like and there she is kind of strangling the dog it looks like and she's just not focusing on it I mean which is obviously not right but the dog is really struggling
Starting point is 00:59:54 here and she's just holding it in the air by its neck I'm sorry I'm in the ramping he has a place in a minute he's recording me and threatening me and my dog how did he threaten her at least he didn't
Starting point is 01:00:07 at least we haven't been out on this video Yeah. I'm sorry, I can't hear me. I'm being threatened by a man into the ramble. Please send the cops immediately. I'm in circle parking a ramble. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Thank you. And he says thank you when she finally gets a leash on the dog. He thanks her for that. Which is nice. It was a nice polite moment in the middle of that. What's really fascinating about this is she knows she's being recorded. There's nothing happening to her.
Starting point is 01:00:47 She's acting as if she's terrified by this guy and literally is watching him film her. What did she think was going to happen? She's the one coming close to him, coming at him, not the other way around. Yes. So she's at no point in any danger. And so she looks really bad.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Should she have some level of repercussion from that probably? Should she or should her life? be destroyed. No. I don't think so. I always come back to this too, and maybe this is just the conservative in me talking. But it's like, this happened with the Charlotte Charlottesville marchers when they were watching rally.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Jews will not replace us with their little tiki torches. Remember that whole situation? Yep. Well, the left went to work and they found every face in that crowd and tried to identify who they were and where they were from and where they worked and all those things. And they found this one guy who was at the rally. Obviously, he was racist, had posted racist things online. and he worked at a hot dog stand in California, I think it was.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And so they got him fired from the hot dog stand. Now, I guess I don't, if I had a choice, would I want a racist serving me hot dogs? I'd probably not want that to happen. It wouldn't be my first choice. However, the racial preference of a hot dog person serving me a hot dog is not all that important to my daily life. And at the end of the day, they got him fired and where does that leave us?
Starting point is 01:02:08 all of us are now paying for programs so that this racist can sit at home online, posting on message boards probably, and planning his next rally, instead of being at work being a productive part of society, at least in some way. Is this a win for us? Is it a win that now this woman,
Starting point is 01:02:25 if you might think she's terribly racist, you got her fired? Well, now you're paying for her because of these left-wing programs. Congratulations. Never excites me. Just because you can boil water doesn't mean you should run a restaurant.
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Starting point is 01:04:28 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn. We've been talking a little bit about some of the racial issues, I would say, that are going on. Everything from Jimmy Fallon to an interaction in Central Park to now Minneapolis. Which is so disturbing and horrific. A man, police were responding to a man who was sitting on top of somebody's car, I guess. and I think he was inside the car by the time the cops got there. And now the police say that he resisted arrest. And I've heard that when they pulled him out of the car, he was resisting somewhat.
Starting point is 01:05:04 But later on, after they got him in the cuffs, he's walking with the cop down the sidewalk, not resisting at all. Then he sort of leans back and sits down against a wall on the sidewalk. The cop tells him to get up and he gets up, complies. They walk back around the police vehicle, still not resisting. He's not doing anything. Then he's down on the ground and the cop puts his knee in his neck and throat area. He's face down on the ground with his hands behind his back handcuffed. And the cop has his knee on his neck for a full seven minutes.
Starting point is 01:05:44 And the guy pleads with him multiple times. Please, I can't breathe. please, I can't breathe. I hurt. My stomach hurts. I hurt everywhere and I can't breathe. And he tells him this over and over. And so do the people surrounding. Yeah, and the bystanders who are recording it on their phones are telling him,
Starting point is 01:06:04 look, you're killing this guy. Get off of him. And he doesn't. And he doesn't listen to anybody. He, in fact, it looks like he kind of drives his knee deeper into the back of his neck. And then puts his hand in his pocket. Yeah. As he's sitting there doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 None of the police officers that are with him, the other three, they've all been fired by now, which is not sufficient. They need to be charged with a crime here. Murder or negligent homicide. I don't know what the exact charge is, but they killed the guy. The officer killed the man. It was really a horrific scene. It's incomprehensible to watch how just, look, I am. Big supporters of the police.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Big supporter. And I, you know, I, you know, when, and these borderline situations, a lot of times I side with the police, honestly, because, you know, they are in a situation where they should rationally fear for their lives in these, in these moments often. They have families to get home to, too. I bring, just not the situation seemingly in this case. There's no reason for what this guy did. I can't. No reason. I can't comprehend of one.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Honestly, like I try, you know, you try to figure out what's their argument here. Their argument seems to be, well, they had the power They could do whatever they wanted. That seems to be the defense here, which is not a good defense. Look, there's no reason. Like, there's not a moment. And the video is, when he's on the ground,
Starting point is 01:07:31 you get all of it, I think. There's not a moment where they just say to the guy, look, I understand you're uncomfortable. I am going to let some of this pressure off. If you move a muscle, I'm doing it again. Never an opportunity for him to just lay there and play dead, right? They never gave them an opportunity to lay there completely and say, look, here is a,
Starting point is 01:07:54 if you itch yourself, I'm going to do something, I'm going to put my knee back here. They never gave him even that chance. No, there's not one moment where they have any empathy or sympathy or a moment of humanity for this man. When he's begging and pleading that I can't breathe, you would think, even if it's just because they're being recorded by other people. Right. Self-preservation. Yeah. Just get off him so that doesn't look like you're killing the guy. Like there's not a moment where the I Can't Breathe thing reminds you of Eric Garner, which was a big story. Come on. You have to be reminded of that. And just say like, look,
Starting point is 01:08:31 you're not one of these other officers that goes up to him and says, dude, like, I don't want to be in this next freaking Aaron Garner story. Let's just get off his neck. Get off his neck. Get off his neck. He's not doing anything. If he moves, then do it again. And you'd have an argument there. Like there would be people who him up and put him in the back of the cruiser. Exactly. Get up, get in there. If you do anything else, you're in major trouble. Put the freaking stun, you know, the, the taser on it. The taser on him. And, you know, without pressing the electrification button, for lack of a better word.
Starting point is 01:08:58 As you know, not an officer. But, you know, you put him and say, if you do anything, we're going to, I'm going to jam this button down and it's going to suck for you. So don't do it. At least give him a chance to comply. Nothing like that. Nothing like that. And that is really disturbing. You know, sometimes there may be part of this that we haven't seen that would explain
Starting point is 01:09:19 why they were so, why they handled it in a much more aggressive way than you would expect. Right. Like sometimes there is an interaction where they have done something. Maybe they, maybe he did fight back in a way that we didn't see. But none of that would, like, we have soldiers who go to war and capture Al-Qaeda members and ISIS members and don't do things like this to them. Right? It doesn't matter what they've done.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Once they get to a place where they are not fighting back and they have no ability to do anything, we celebrate here in this country the fact that we send our fighters to foreign wars where they have killed thousands of our own people and we still don't do this to them. We have massive debates of whether we're allowed to pour water on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:14 We don't, you can't do this. And the fact that you would do it in a situation where you know you're on camera and you know the history, you know the context of the situation, you know how this is going to be viewed,
Starting point is 01:10:29 you know people are going to see it happen and you know the risks. And you disregard all of that and you disregard all of it because why? Right. Why? Again, we'll have a trial. We don't just, you don't, you know, We're not going to, you know, assassinate this guy in the street because he did something.
Starting point is 01:10:44 He should go. There should be due process. It should be due process. But he should definitely be charged, I think, with something. And I don't know exactly what it would be. I think negligent, negligent homicide or some sort of high-level manslaughter, whatever, sounds right to me. It may be fall into the category where it's possible to charge them for murder. And that might be appropriate here.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I mean, it looks that bad, certainly. It does. You always hold back to try to understand whatever context you're missing. but in reality, unless there's something, I can't even think of what the thing would be. No. That would justify this behavior. On the ground, face down, with his hands handcuffed behind his back.
Starting point is 01:11:26 What's he going to do? There's nothing he could do. And it's so disturbing because of how many fantastic officers that we have and how great they usually are. Yes. You can't. And this plays right into the whole hysteria. about the cops are just killing black people left and right.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah, which is not the case. Yep. And, you know, we always say this about other groups, right? We say this about, we were talking about ISIS moments ago. You know, when there's a terrorist attack, it is, yes, of course, we can all say how bad it is. The most important people to say how bad this is are other Muslims, if there's a Muslim terrorist attack, if ISIS is responsible. This is why people like Zudi Jasser are so important to come out and say, yes, that behavior is completely. wrong. Those people are doing the wrong things.
Starting point is 01:12:14 But there's also a good section of our community as well, and they're great people. Police officers need to have credibility to do that. Now look, we have to also take a step back when you're talking about what's going on and what seems to be coming as far as protests and all of this. We have a decent amount of murders in this country more than any of us would like. They go on often. when they happen, when a black person kills a white person, it is not appropriate to say all black people are responsible for that.
Starting point is 01:12:48 The person, the individual who commits the crime is the one responsible for it. The same way, and everybody needs to remember this today, the same way that when one police officer, let's say he's guilty completely of murder, which again, it looks like it to me, I'm no legal expert. But if he is, we should not hold other cops responsible for that behavior, number one. and number two, we have to recognize that these things are terrible and they happen
Starting point is 01:13:12 and we have a system to deal with them the best way that we can. If that system reacts the way it's supposed to, we can all be really pissed off, but that does not mean that we should, you know, be burning down cities, right? It's not the way that that should work. They got fired immediately. My guess is they get charged within a few days
Starting point is 01:13:34 as they're gathering evidence. There has to be some time for the system to play out. But I don't think it's going to take long. And there's plenty of evidence. They had, we've been informed by the police department that they all had their body cameras on. So there's, there's that evidence. And the people who were filming it that were bystanders begging the police to get off of him and to listen to him and to ease up a little bit. And in fact, several of them said, you're killing the guy.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And then he was motionless after a while. And they still kept his knee there. And they still kept his knee in his neck and throat. At the very least, the guy had passed out at that point. At the very, he might have been already dead by then. He might have been dead. But you think of like, if you're in a situation where you're being restrained or you, something like that someone's choking you. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Like your body is going to do everything it can to protect against that, right? You're going to, your chin's going to be pushed down. You're going to tighten your neck. It's going to give you some level of protection. When you pass out, you stop doing that. Right. So now everything's just collapsing on top of each other. The windpipe is closing.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah. And the fact that you... And he's suffocated. It's inexplicable. Terrific. You know, there's one thing where mistakes do happen in police work. If you, there can be a bad incident. It could be something where you're trying, you don't realize something innocent is happening
Starting point is 01:14:53 and you react, you think it's threatening. And, you know, people have been shot in that way. All terrible. But not this. This is a, this, it develops over a long period of time. There's nothing happening there. it's inexplicable. It doesn't necessarily mean,
Starting point is 01:15:09 and this is, I guess, worth pointing out, it doesn't necessarily mean they were doing it because they wanted to kill a black guy. It could just be terrible police work. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 01:15:17 I think it's impossible to avoid the racial parts of this, clearly going to be part of the conversation on it. It doesn't necessarily mean they left the house that day and they were like, you know what I'd like to do today
Starting point is 01:15:28 is find a black person to put my knee on their throat. But it doesn't, like that part is separate. It can be a part of the conversation but separate of who the person is, it just seems to be absolutely horrific police work at the very least. And, you know, maybe if the guy resisted at the very beginning,
Starting point is 01:15:45 which I didn't see because it wasn't on this particular video, but maybe that pissed him off to the point where, yeah, I'm just going to be on this guy's neck. It might not have been racial. He just might have, anger may have taken hold. It doesn't excuse it at all. No, not in the least. But it is, a lot of times that is the factor.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Like, you see this is happening where a good example of this was in the NFL, was it last year, where the guy in Pittsburgh hit the quarterback in his head. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember the exact two players it was. It was the guy who hit the quarterback in the head with his helmet at the end of that game. And a lot of criticism for the game. Obviously, he's going to get suspended and all this thing. His comeback to that was he called me the N-word.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Now, there's no evidence of that. The NFL went through all the tapes, did not find any evidence of it. There's no reason to believe it actually occurred. And nobody else apparently heard it either. Nobody else heard it either, including other African Americans who were there or did not hear it. Right. But the bigger part of that is it still would not justify what he did. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You'd be understanding why he'd be pissed off about it. You'd understand, yeah, he's pissed off. He got called a racial slur. But that does not mean you hit an unprotected head with a helmet at full speed. That's not okay. Right. Even if he did call him that. And I think a lot of times we get locked up into a well, well, why did he, what was his motivation?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Why did this guy do something wrong? Did he commit a crime? All of those things are immaterial to what the action was at the end there. When the guy is, even if you want to take the parts where he's awake and dismiss them, the guy clearly at some point passes out and he still keeps his knee on his neck. I'm sorry. You just, I can't find any justification. I can't find anything other than this seems to be a case where whatever the legal maximum is is where it should land. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:19:02 It's Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Sometime during the course of the show, we should just take a few minutes and play this girl who plays the night right. theme on the cello and splits it into eight different parts and it's really well done really good stuff have you ever seen the the guys who play that what are they called i think they're called two cellos because it's two guys with two cellos why don't they call it two guys two cellos i don't know stupid i don't know it's ridiculous um but they play a version of uh cdc's uh thunderstruck and on the cello, and it's awesome. You've never seen it, apparently.
Starting point is 01:19:48 No, but this sounds interesting. This is reminiscent of that, but she's really good. Maybe we'll take a few minutes and play that later on. Just to break up some of the insanity and the racism and the, you know, the death and destruction. Yeah. And, you know, all the, the goal of the media just to blame Trump for everything. I mean, we're not hearing a lot about Brazil right now with coronavirus, which is in a totally out of control right now. They're in tough shape.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Yeah. They actually, for the first time that I've noticed it, at least, since the United States, obviously a big country, took over the lead, if you want to say that, for daily deaths from COVID-19. Someone passed us yesterday, which was Brazil. Wow. Brazil is totally out of control. And the only time you ever hear anything about it is, uh, their president's just like Trump. Well, that's not true. No.
Starting point is 01:20:37 It's not true. He's, you know, he certainly has his populist leanings, but he's not. He's Trump to about the 1,000 power. Much worse. Much, much worse. Much worse. But yeah, they had over a thousand people die yesterday. And they don't seem to have it under control at all.
Starting point is 01:20:52 They certainly don't have our medical system. It's some big problems coming out of Brazil right now. AAA 727 B-E-C-K. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. With Pat and Stu this week for Glenn, who is on vacation. AAA-727B-B-E-C-K. Pretty historic day today Because there's going to be a launch of a spacecraft
Starting point is 01:21:15 That's the first ever Sort of collaboration between The government, a space agency, NASA And a private industry, a private company. Elon Musk's SpaceX. So the rocket is from SpaceX, but there was a lot of NASA help in this. There was a lot of NASA money in it, like $3.1 billion.
Starting point is 01:21:37 And they helped develop this thing because their astronauts are going to be using it. And so this will be the first time since 2011 that we've had a space launch from the United States of America because we haven't had a space vehicle since 2011 when Obama canceled the program, the space shuttle program, with nothing to replace it with. So we've been space hitchhikers ever since.
Starting point is 01:22:04 And every time we go into space with NASA astronauts, in the last nine years, it costs us $100 million to do that with the Russians from Kazakhstan. Jeez. So finally, we've got SpaceX who has this rocket developed, this crew dragon. It's their dragon's space vehicle that has a manned crew this time for the first time ever in this particular adventure. So it's a big deal. It's a big day today. and at 4.30 Eastern, they'll be launching provided the weather is okay and they can do it.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And it's been pretty impressive. I mean, the Musk, SpaceX has been impressive, though they have had multiple rockets blow up this type of rocket as well, too, right, blow up on the launch pad. Yes. So there is some worry here. Yes. Not to say that they, you know, there's always worry in one of these missions. NASA has put the risk at one in 276. And both the astronauts who are going to be in the vehicle have said, We're completely comfortable with that. Yeah. As you'd imagine, as you would imagine astronauts would be, but I think most of us would say,
Starting point is 01:23:13 it's a little too high. If it's not one in 276 million, I'm not sure I want to do it. Exactly. One in 276? Yeah. It's nerve-wracking. Very much so.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Nerve-wracking. It really is. That is a, those are not odds you want your life to be wagered on. No. But, you know, these guys, of course, have worked.
Starting point is 01:23:37 an endless amount of time for 20 years to try to to to do this and it's their dream and and and and and they've been trained in all of this and yeah I mean that is a it's a whole another world that space world is a whole a whole another world I was just reading a book about this recently uh it was a Ben Ben Mesrick book I love Ben Mesrick books he but he was about um it's called Sex on the Moon it's about the the scandal that happened in the early 2000s I guess where they stole a guy who was working at NASA stole moon rocks and tried to sell them for giant profits. It's one of the most, you know, the highest price, you know, substance on Earth, right?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Because there's only a certain amount of pounds. They're all controlled by NASA. They're all in safes. And he basically broke in and stole these things and tried to make cash off of it. It's an amazing story. Legitimately amazing. And did he make cash off of it? No.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Unfortunately, the person he was selling the moon rocks to have to work for the FBI. Yeah. So it didn't go over all that well. How does that happen all the time? I know. Well, I mean, they were, it seemed, you know, this is a little bit off topic here, but their approach to the, the guy who was doing it was came up, you know, was not a, was trying to build his way into a big career in this world, but had, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:55 essentially a glorified intern at this point. But was so promising he had access to a lot of areas. I think Brad Melcher has something on this. Oh, really? Yeah, I think he's written about it. Oh, really? I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's an incredible story.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Because it sounds familiar. But he was much worse at being a criminal than he was being a scientist. His efforts there were like, you know, he was bringing in people who really didn't know what they were doing. He was like basically posting like want ads like, hey, I got some stuff. I'm not allowed to sell. Who wants some to like, you know, rock collectors? And it did not turn out well. Most people just thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 01:25:32 It was just one guy in, uh, in, was it Belgium? that was a rock collector and was like, this doesn't sound right. And contacted the FBI and that's how they wound up catching him. Anyway, he's out of prison. He's out of prison now. But you see the dedication, though, is what I was getting to,
Starting point is 01:25:47 is that these, the people who are in this program live, live it. Oh, for sure. Like, they would die to take a risk like this. Literally. You know, and have. Yes. You know, so this is, it's a big deal, though.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I like the fact that we are at least involving the private sector. I do too. I do too. And it's kind of strange because I've always been a big NASA fan. And I was trying to figure out, well, it's a government-run agency. And I believe private industry does things way better than the government does. But I've always believed in NASA. Maybe that's because they've been the only player in this game that we know of until now. Now that we have three companies involved, you got Elon Musk's, SpaceX. You have, is it, Blue Origin with Bezos and Amazon? And then you've got Virgin Atlantic. Virgin Space or whatever they call that from Richard Branson. So now there are a bunch of companies trying to do this on a private business level. And so it makes it kind of interesting, but because it's a first time, it's a little nerve-wracking as well. Yeah. I can see it.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And it's, you know, the Elon Musk saga is fascinating for multiple reasons. You know, beyond just the space part of it, him as a person, everything's changing with this guy right now. We have to take a 60 second break. Let's take the break, come back on the other side and discuss the change. There's a new poll out showing that everybody's opinion is currently in the middle of changing on Elon Musk. And it's a partisan thing. And it's a partisan thing yet again. Back in a second.
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Starting point is 01:28:40 Talking about Elon Musk here and his SpaceX program, which they launched today, the first manned SpaceX flight launches today at 430 Eastern 330 Central. But it's interesting to note that things are changing a little bit for Elon Musk. You know, here's a guy who believes in global warming to the extent that he's trying to get to Mars and establish a colony there because he believes humans will have to be multiple planet oriented. Yeah. Because we're losing the earth. The man with his own money and is building spaceships to escape global warming. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And this is a man who has taken his own money. Again, he's had government assistance in some of these projects. But he also taken a big chunk of his own money and decided to build an electric car company. Yes. Then he decided to save the planet. To save the planet from global warming. He's decided to build a solar panel factory and batteries improve all that technology. improve all that technology.
Starting point is 01:29:44 To save the planet. To save the planet. He is completely in line with the left-wing ideology when it comes to global warming and how to fix it. Though, you know, he's doing it. I do. I've always had an affinity for Elon Musk in that he's trying to do it through the capitalist system. Which I like. Which I like.
Starting point is 01:30:02 He's trying to build a better product. We talked about this with the guy, the Impossible Food CEO, the same idea. Like, we're trying to do something that we think is important for the world. Sure, whatever. that's great. Is it good? Yeah. Does the car, we've driven a Tesla before. It's, you know, probably the most amazing driving experience I've ever been a part of. Awesome. They're awesome. They are so fast. It's, it's, it's legitimately breathtaking.
Starting point is 01:30:28 It is. Um, how fast they are. And again, like, I've, you know, driven some fast cars over the years. Um, this is, it is a totally different kind of speed. Um, and it's really, it's really fascinating. Um, so he's trying to do it in that way and what I like. So you got the Chevy Volt. up until this point or a dumb Toyota Prius. And then he comes along with this and revolutionizes electric cars. And so the left should love him. And I think they did.
Starting point is 01:30:56 They used to. Yeah. I've been trying to find a good old poll on Elon Musk. Now, he's always been a sort of eccentric, eccentric character. He's not always, he's, you know, tweeted things that people think are crazy. And, you know, there's all that stuff of, So he's always been that billionaire, right? And I always thought that, like, you know, global warming would not be my focus.
Starting point is 01:31:18 However, if I were a billionaire, I would do a lot of the same stuff Elon Musk does, which is just like, I'm going to start a flamethrower company. You know, like, it's stuff like that. Like, you could tell he's just having fun with us at times, even though he thinks he's doing something important. So the left did like him quite a bit. He did not like Donald Trump in the 2016 election and wanted Hillary Clinton to win, said that her policies were better. for the environment, better for the country. He was,
Starting point is 01:31:45 he's no right winger, right? But this is how crazy we are with this situation when it comes to just teams. Now, a new poll has come out and has the favorability
Starting point is 01:31:57 of Elon Musk turning into a completely partisan affair. This is broken down by parties. Now, his approval rating overall seems to be you know,
Starting point is 01:32:10 definitely worse than it was. If you go back a few months and years, there was a poll that let's see, this is 2016. Poll taken, Elon Musk's favorability was 29 to 12. Again, a lot of people don't have opinions on CEOs. It's pretty common.
Starting point is 01:32:25 But 29 to 12 is, you know, he's a plus 17 there. Okay. Another poll had Elon Musk at 33 to 10. Okay, so plus 23. Elon Musk today, new poll out, this is from Eschelon Insights
Starting point is 01:32:43 has him at 23% favorable, 34% unfavorable. So a major... He's underwater 12% percentage points. 11, if I said that wrong. 2334. So he's minus 11 overall. However, that breaks down among party lines. If I were to ask you six months ago,
Starting point is 01:33:04 you may have said yes, it probably does break down on party lines. Democrats like him because of all the global warming stuff. And Republicans don't like him that much because he's always talking about global warming stuff, right? Mm-hmm. Here is the breakdown by party. GOP now sees Elon Musk favorable 31%, unfavorable 24.
Starting point is 01:33:21 So he's plus seven among Republicans. Okay. Democrats, 18% favorable, 41% unfavorable. So he's minus 23 among Democrats. A man who's building spaceships to escape global warming is minor. And remember, to add on to this, it must be noted. that the Democrats have made a show for years telling us global warming is the most important thing and the biggest threat.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Over and over and over. So what could he say on pandemics that would make you leave him on his global warming mission? Let's get back to work. Yeah. That's what he said. Let me open up the factory I own. Let me invite the employees I pay to come back and earn their salaries. And now they don't like him for that.
Starting point is 01:34:06 And now they don't like him. So now he's on Trump's side. Now he's on Trump side. Yeah. So they've abandoned. What they have told us is the most important thing. What they have told us is the biggest threat because he wants to open up his factory a couple of weeks before they said it was allowed. Because of that and because of his opinion on coronavirus, which, again, to me, a pandemic is a bigger threat than global warming.
Starting point is 01:34:31 But that's not the case you've been making. You've been telling us the opposite. So you should be able to prioritize and say the work he's doing on global warming far outweighs his. He doesn't even like Trump, but his agreement with Trump on one small slice of a big story. But because it's Trump, it's the way the media handles this, and people are just like, well, no, we don't care about him at all. It indicates two things to me. Number one, we're way too tribal on this stuff. And, you know, I think it's, in this case, it's all Democrats, basically.
Starting point is 01:35:02 I think Republicans would respect to, you know, they don't like the global warming part maybe of Elon Musk, but they like him. I think they like he's a bigger than life figure. He's a billionaire. Some of that settles. It's a capitalist. Yeah, we've always liked Musk. I mean, we've always said that. I don't think that that was, they would be unpopular among Republicans, but maybe it's a little bit, he's a little more popular now.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Democrats is the exact opposite. So number one, they're just being tribal, right? The second someone says something that it, not even praises Trump, but just agrees with the guy, just agrees with the guy. They totally turn on it. It's insanity. And number two, let's be. honest about it, they never believed global warming was the biggest thing.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Like the average Democratic voter does not actually believe that. They believe ISIS is a bigger threat. They believe you know, pandemics are a bigger threat. They do believe this. There are people, I think, like Elon Musk, who actually does think global warming is a real
Starting point is 01:35:58 thing and he's put his money where his mouth is. I'm not saying it's not real, but like the idea of being a threat on a level of a global pandemic. Right? Like, it's just like it, it's not true. You know, this is something where, you know, this is something where a pandemic is an immediate threat. It's happening right now. It's always been a risk right around the corner.
Starting point is 01:36:16 We've seen it happen to the world many times in recent history. And we ignored it in many ways and acted like we had solved that problem. The global warming thing, you can tell. The average voter does not actually believe. They'll say it. They will virtue signal about it. But they all got cars. None of them are, you know, none of them are,
Starting point is 01:36:36 it gets solar panels on their roofs. It's just not real. At some point, solar panels may very well be the type of technology we all want to buy. And that is what Elon Musk is trying to do. Make it so people don't have to have virtue to accomplish it.
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Starting point is 01:38:36 They have alerted the world that American officials have been processing dead bodies of Chinese coronavirus victims into hamburgers and feeding them to the American people. I thought we could keep that quiet. I guess not. No. I guess they're on to us. They're on to us finally. You know, after all this time, they're too astute.
Starting point is 01:38:59 They're paying too much attention. You know, especially when they realized, I was worried when they started realizing that our military was the one that planted COVID-19. Right. In their society? Yeah. And I thought that was bad enough. But now that they caught us on the hamburger thing.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Now that they caught us on the cannibalism that we're being involved in. We're just not going to look good. What's your favorite dish to make out of a Chinese? coronavirus victim. I like Salisbury steak. You know? It's like it's a nice. It's pretty delicious.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You get a little brown gravy on there. Yeah. Maybe a mushroom or two on top. How do you, how do you, well, if you process some of the fatter dead bodies, I like the marbling.
Starting point is 01:39:40 And so like the ribby. Oh, like a ribby. Yeah, a good cut of ribby. Yeah. I could see that. I can see that. That's,
Starting point is 01:39:48 and again, we wouldn't normally just disclose this. I didn't talk about it this openly, but they've caught us. But they caught us. when we chat, you know, mentioned it. I mean, what are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Right. Darn it. It is the scholar forum for ultimate truth. Oh. And we all know that. And it's attracted 1.7 million page views. I just wonder, how many, how many of their people believe this kind of stuff over there? Is it a lot?
Starting point is 01:40:16 I mean, we certainly have plenty of our own ridiculous conspiracy theories floating around at the moment as well. We're not the only ones. or they're not the only ones on that one. No. We have that. But there has to be a decent amount of people. But they are really making an effort here to blame us, to pin something on us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And, you know, it would be one thing if they didn't, you know, release a global pandemic that they did not communicate the details with us on in time. I mean, like, they were not, they did not in any timely fashion actually tell us what was going on. many people were dying, you know, what the makeup of this thing was. Some of it, they worked with some scientists. There were scientists that were saying these things and were imprisoned for it in the country. Right. Right. And these things, like when you cause an incident like that, and at least, at the very least, I'm not saying they caused the virus. I'm not saying that by any means. But look, these things happened. They came out of their country. They did not communicate with the world in an efficient way. And they made it worse. They made it worse by hiding it and slow playing it. For sure. And it caused
Starting point is 01:41:21 a lot of life. A lot of life was lost because of it. But as they say on the website, cannibalism has existed in the U.S. before. And only a few dozen years ago, Americans ate blacks, Indians, and Chinese. So we've been doing it for a while. And they know that we're escalating that process right now. So it's about time. Yeah. It's about time. I feel a little bad, but it's like a weight off my shoulders. It's almost a relief that they know now, right? Yeah. It's just like it's nice. I don't have to hide it anymore. You know, we could all go and just order our Chinese coronavirus victim, Salisbury steak,
Starting point is 01:41:58 whenever we want, and everything will be fine. Or the rabbi. You know, if you like your meat a little bit more marbled. Yeah. That's fine, too. Lots of options. Imagine the buffet they can put out there with the real names of the products instead of the fake ones we use now. It's a relief.
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Starting point is 01:43:39 Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, AAA 727 BECK. Have you, have you been following this Norma McCorvey controversy at all? She is Roe of Roe v. Wade. The actual woman who wanted to have an abortion in the 70s and took it all the way to the Supreme Court wound up, I think,
Starting point is 01:44:05 if I remember the story correctly, not having the abortion at all, but then eventually came out as an advocate of being pro-life. And so it was pretty ironic in that the person who was responsible for bringing it to the Supreme Court and winning the case that legalized abortion in the United States, then later on, years later, became a very strong pro-life advocate well now there's a new documentary out on FX called aka Jane Roe. And they claim in this documentary that Norma McCorvey said on her deathbed that she was faking it the whole time, that she was actually pro-abortion,
Starting point is 01:44:54 and that pro-life advocates just paid her and told her what to say. And so she just did it. I don't believe that. I don't believe it Yeah It's hard to believe It is hard to believe The people who were around her
Starting point is 01:45:09 For 30 years Say that this is They don't believe it either No it's not true One of those is Abby Johnson Yeah Who was a Planned Parenthood worker
Starting point is 01:45:20 If I understand She they actually talked Late in life They did Yeah She got a few days Before her death Abby says
Starting point is 01:45:28 Her many years As a dedicated Pro Life Advocate Was not a lie her tearful conversation, which I'll keep private, with me days before her death was not a lie. The hour she spent praying in front of abortion facilities was not a lie. Her life with Christ was not a lie.
Starting point is 01:45:46 So she is saying those things. And so is a preacher who knew her very well and said that he prayed with her multiple times and that she was legitimately pro-life. The framing of it seems to be she was paid so that she would lie. to everyone and say she was pro-life. That's not even what she's saying. I mean, like, the media framing of it is that way. What she seems to be saying is that basically she got paid for speeches
Starting point is 01:46:12 and she got paid for, I don't know, books or, you know, like that's very typical of an activist, right? If your job is to be an activist, you're probably going to get paid to be an activist. You know, she talks about how people wrote her speeches for her and things like that. Well, you know, so that happened with Barack Obama too. People write speeches for other people. And guess what? He makes like $450,000 per speech.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Yeah. So people pay him to talk. They sure do. And does that mean that he doesn't believe the things he's saying? No, it doesn't. I don't think so. I'll also point out that is, I can understand why it was a big get at one point to get the person in Rovers's way
Starting point is 01:46:53 to come over to your side and be a pro-life activist, right? I can understand why that would be attractive. However, it's always going to be an anecdotal thing. just because the Roe from Roe versus Wade is pro-life is no reason to become pro-life. Like it's an interesting story. Yeah. It surrounds it.
Starting point is 01:47:10 But like it is a moral decision you base on something completely different than like, oh, that person's doing it. Me too. Like that's not the way anybody makes that decision. No. So I think it would be, they want to treat it as like, this is a crack in the foundation of the pro-life movement
Starting point is 01:47:26 and therefore it's going to collapse because this big name activist is, is gone and she was lying the whole time. And like trying to insinuate that that means other people you see saying these things are probably, it's probably happening there too. I mean, I can't vouch for it. A lot of people who are around her say this is not how she felt. She did have a conversion at one point. And maybe, you know, was not a very happy person throughout life. She had a lot of terrible things happen to her.
Starting point is 01:47:53 If the story is true, think about this. She fought for, she was Roe, Roe versus Wade. She gets all, think about it from a left wing perspective. she's able to free this amazing right to be able to kill your children for all women across the nation. And then you spend 30 years trying to dissuade people from doing that and hurting that movement. Like your life is hell, right? Like you've basically dedicated your life to selfish personal gain to destroy an important right. Like that is, it's hard to describe a worse life than that.
Starting point is 01:48:28 So, and then we are supposed to believe. that this woman that you're telling us took money to lie is telling the absolute truth on her deathbed in front of a documentary crew. Did they pay her? That question was asked of the documentary crew and you know what they said? No, it didn't pay her.
Starting point is 01:48:46 I mean, there were some expenses. We did license some of her photos. Well, what do you think? Like you're saying that the pro-life movement was paying her for a speech? There's a much clearer line than licensing her personal photos? A lot of people don't get paid for that.
Starting point is 01:49:06 You know, when you're doing a documentary, you usually hand over a bunch of photos and they take them. They don't license the photos typically of something like that. They're doing that because they were looking for a way to pay her and she probably was in a desperate situation with no money and may have been taking money from them to lie. Who knows? You're the one telling us she's a big liar. So I don't know what the truth is with her.
Starting point is 01:49:25 It's completely unimportant to the pro-life cause. It's important to her life and her legacy and her soul. Yeah, they act like she was a major influence on the pro-life movement. I don't even know that that's the case. No, I don't think so. I mean, I didn't even know about the fact that she had changed until a few years ago. A few years ago. And I didn't know her name. You know, I just knew Ro from Roe versus Wade. Yeah. And I knew that storyline was vaguely familiar with it. But I mean, Roe versus Wade happened because there was a pro-life movement already. Right? There's a bunch of people who didn't think abortion should be.
Starting point is 01:50:00 legal. That's why we know what the case is. Because there was two sides to that. The fact that she was on the pro abortion side at one point, flipped to the pro-life side, and maybe went back to the pro-abortion side, is completely inconsequential to the moral argument about what should be happening. Yeah. And that is, of course, where the real meat of that movement is.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And look how effective. You know, not that it didn't matter at all that she changed sides. I think it's great that she did if she did for real. But we lost, right? I mean, we've lost for the last 45 years in this debate. Now, they act like there's... How much did she help? We didn't get anywhere.
Starting point is 01:50:40 We lost a lot of ground, in fact. We've gone the wrong way since Roe v. Wade. Yeah, people don't realize, I think the average person, maybe in this audience does, but the average person does not realize if we were to move to Roe versus Wade. That'd be more a pro-life position than we're at right now. A massive move to the conservative side of the argument. And every activist you see on TV would be, you know, oddly enough, screaming bloody murder about what the evil conservatives are doing to our country. You know, Roe versus Wade is written basically to say that the first trimester abortion is legal.
Starting point is 01:51:17 I mean, it says, you know, quite clearly the third trimester, states can say, nope. It says in Roe versus Wade, it's in the ruling. It also says that the second trimester is when you can put on restrictions on how it's, you know, with health restrictions and those sorts of things. Those things are all gone now. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, some states have, have restrictions, you know, not nearly as much. I mean, you can't be in favor of any restrictions and be a Democrat in good standing. Great.
Starting point is 01:51:44 You can't even say a minute before birth. Abortion on demand at any time for any reason all the way up to birth. Yeah. And we're in a country where the most conservative states in our union, are to the left of, or excuse me, to the right of, of Russia, of Europe. So Europe has more, let me rephrase that because I have this screwed it up. Europe has more liberal, more conservative abortion laws than the United States does, including, you know, places like Utah, which is despicable.
Starting point is 01:52:19 I mean, so this is not a, this is a situation where. Inconceivable that that's the case, but it is. Yeah. We have a very active pro-life movement here, but that's different than, you know, the hoops you have to go through in places like Germany, like get a doctor sign off from, to have an abortion. You know, many countries have much more restrictive limits, you know, 12 weeks, eight weeks, 14 weeks. You know, we could go through the whole list maybe sometime this week if it's worth it. But it's a dramatic difference. And, you know, much of our country is far to the left of Europe on this particular issue.
Starting point is 01:52:56 It is a situation which I'm not, you know, at all happy about, but it is not covered at all by the media. You know, they act as if, well, we're just one, Brett Kavanaugh away from everything going away. I wish that were the case. I wish that were the case. I wish it was true because I wanted to happen. I really wish it were. A lot of times they'll say like, you know, we'll say this about the people on the left. We'll say, you know, you're just going after bump stocks and and other things about guns because in the end, you want there to be no second amendment, right?
Starting point is 01:53:22 And they say, no, we love the second amendment. What are you talking about? We're hunters. My dad's out hunting right now in Minnesota. And they deny it. I own a shotgun. Yeah. I own two.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Yeah. I saw a gun once in a movie. Here's the thing. I am that way with abortion. Any little restriction that we can get in the states, is my end goal to have none of it? Yep. I want no abortions.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Zero of them. But why wouldn't you take the little steps along the way? To get to that end goal. Because it's better than what we're doing now. If you're killing fewer babies, that's a good thing. Great. That's a great outcome. More people being alive, better, less people being alive, worse.
Starting point is 01:54:06 This is a difficult thing for people to grasp at times. But I mean, can you imagine? Think of just how many more voters you'd have if you're the Democrats or the Republicans. Think of how many, you talk about war on women. Think of how many more women you'd have. When you talk about racism, think of how many more black people you would have. All I know is that, you know, they always accuse the right of racism. I know that if we implemented our policies, there would be millions more black people alive.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Many millions. And the Democrats have policies that lead to millions of black people not being alive. Something like 16 million more black people would be alive today. It's soul crushing to even think about. When you think about the fact that in New York City, there are more abortions than live births for black babies. Yeah. That's incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:54 There was a staggering. You know, Sabo, the artist, a guy who does all this, like, kind of, he posts these posters up and, like, you know, wrecks the left a lot. Yeah. He was on with us the other day, and we were going through his site. And he has a, just a haunting thing he did, which is just, it's just a little doll of a black baby. And above it, it just says 50-50. And it's like, God, think about this. You're in New York City.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Wow. And a black baby is conceived. It's 50-50. It's actually a little bit less, I think, than 50-50. I think so, yeah. That is incomprehensible. We can talk about, look, we talked about the Minnesota thing quite clearly in, in, you know, stark terms about how bad the situation was with this officer and this guy who was killed in Minnesota. But, I mean, can we step?
Starting point is 01:55:42 Even coronavirus, right? Like, we have 100,000 people dead. I'm not one of the people who thinks that, like, this has been, they're lying about it or anything like that. I'm not on that bandwagon. A lot of people, whatever, even the skeptical case at this point is a lot of freaking people are dead. from this. And it's a bad thing. But I mean, we step back from this. The way we've reacted to this being very, very dramatic. And obviously everyone's talked about the economic side effects of this. You know, we would have millions of more people alive if we would not simply kill them in the womb
Starting point is 01:56:13 while they're completely innocent and have no chance of survival, no chance to be the person who comes up with the COVID-19 vaccine. No, you know, there's just, it's, it is, it is, it's incomprehensible that this does not grasp the country's attention so much more than it does currently. And I think because it's down these tribal lines and no one has any belief, anything's ever going to change, you know, we don't talk about it all that much. But we've made this point before. If we spent every minute of every show solely talking about that issue morally, it would be a crappy show. You'd be like, God, I cannot hear about this topic again.
Starting point is 01:56:52 But morally, I would have no qualms with it. If it was the only thing we ever discussed, if tax rates got to 80% and we just ignored it and let them go, it'd be really, really bad. But, I mean, you can make the argument, this is the clearest thing that we should have a voice on. No question. You're listening to Glenn back. Getting a fresh start doesn't always have to take forever. If you're a homeowner who's focused on your budget right now and how you're going to make things stretch to fit the immediate future, please would you consider making a 10-minute phone call to American financing? it could change your life for the better overnight.
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Starting point is 01:58:23 We're glad on the Glenn Beck program. Kind of a cool version of a girl playing the Knight Rider theme. Samara Ginsburg is her name. Okay. She's playing on a... Eight different parts. on a cello? On a cello.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Yeah. Yes. I could not. I was trying a complete blank as to what that's called. Eight different parts on a cello. She's split into eight different little scenes. And she's, this is really good. It's really detailed, too.
Starting point is 01:59:15 I will say, first of all, Night Rider, one of the great TV themes of all time. I've always loved this stupid TV theme. But I would also say, too, one of the weird things that's come out of this is really oddly creative things. I mean, I guess people have more time on their hands and they're putting this stuff together. With the internet getting to amplify it, it's been, some of that's been pretty cool. I mean, she's playing all eight parts on her own.
Starting point is 01:59:43 That's good. It's really cool. It's really good. It's really good. I could have done that. I mean, I obviously have the talent for it. I just never, you know. I just didn't want to.
Starting point is 01:59:49 I had more important things. Yeah, I can't waste time like that. I wish I could. Yeah. But I can't. I've been, you know, creating cures to viruses. Really? Yep.
Starting point is 02:00:00 I've been... Yeah. Like which ones? Because obviously not this particular virus is going around. Well, actually, I have... You have? You have? You have?
Starting point is 02:00:08 Yeah, COVID-19. The issue is I'm not going to give it to people unless, you know, they give me a billion dollars. Oh. And no one's stepped up to the plate. Nobody has... You know, I'm doing it purely for profit. I'm not trying to help people. At some point, they'll know.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I would think that would be worth it to some government. Well, here's what I say is like, give me the billion dollars, then find out a I've cured it. Okay. The biggest issue is what? You lose, you're out a billion dollars. You guys spend that on turtle tunnels. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:37 You know, so just give me the billion. And then you'll have the knowledge and this piece of mind to know whether the cure is already done. Huh. You know, it's worth a lot.

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