The Glenn Beck Program - 'Media, You're Better Than This?'
Episode Date: August 2, 2018Hour 1 CNN, no responsibility in reporting?...'out of control hatred' of President Trump ...trusting BBC over American media?...'In the long run Democratic Socialist want to end capitalism'...destroy...ing healthcare helps accelerate their goals ...'We are Q'...Who is Q?...conspiracy of overturning the deep state? Hour 2 Choosing the Bill of Rights or Civil War? ...'The Unserious Face of an Unserious Movement', with National Review Editor, Charles Cooke...should we be be taking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seriously?...'credentialism' kills? ...'The End is Nigh' with National Review Senior Political Correspondent, Jim Geraghty...we are losing ourselves in a virtual reality?...despite the mood, times are better than you think? Hour 3 The perfect heist, in broad day light?...Swedish police search for suspects in a crown jewel robbery ...Glenn recalls the time he went to see the pope (intoxicated)?...attending midnight mass, standing on a chair, while pointing at the pope? ...Good 'old' racist Tweets?...from the newest member of the NY Times Editorial board?...when 'outraged' mobs get what they want? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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At a bull fight, there is a palpable twinge to the air.
The moment the bull loses its mind, it first stands there.
It's lured by the red cape.
The bull stomps, howls, shakes his head, prepares to charge.
Then it howls again, chuffs, and then charges full bore.
and that's what takes your breath away,
sprinting at the red like a steam engine that just can't be stopped,
only to have the red yanked away at the last second, if you're lucky.
Let me take you to Barnes Stable, Massachusetts.
This was the scene. It was at a red light.
A man and his girlfriend waiting patiently at a red light,
when all of a sudden a bull emerged.
It was in the form of a 25-year-old woman and a gray Honda Civic.
The man and his girlfriend
heard Banshee like screaming
and got out of the car thinking
the 25 year old woman was trying to tell them
something was wrong with their car. No,
she was blinded like the bull
by the red. She was livid.
She was in the
throws and tosses of
bull's rage fixated
on the red cape.
It was on the back of
their car. A
Trump bumper sticker.
She said,
You voted from it.
Trump. He said, yeah, yeah, I did. She called me a racist and all kinds of other names.
Well, that did it. Apparently, the woman reared her car, chuffed, howled, and then charged at the
man's car. Man has it all on video. She bent my door. I had to lean back to avoid getting hit.
She also hit the side of my car. Then with a smoke lingering in the air, the woman raged off
howling and screaming.
Apparently she was easy to spot,
even easier to throw in jail.
My question is, I'm wondering if
CNN is covering this
story today.
I'm wondering if CNN,
you know, because they're all very, very
upset about the possible violence
that the president is
churning. I'm wondering if
CNN has a moment
of their day
to report this
story and say,
Gee, let's make sure we're not revving people up.
Where did this woman get her violent tendency?
Or CNN, is it okay for her to do it?
And you hold no responsibility.
It's Thursday, August 2nd.
This is the Glenn Beck program.
Holy cow.
Welcome to the program.
So glad you're here.
I, boo.
take the CNN stuff anymore. I just can't. I can't. You know, CNN really blew its chance. A few years ago,
CNN had an opportunity. They weren't MSNBC and they were still left, but they weren't crazy,
crazy left all the time. But they were still left. They were still Clinton. You know what I mean?
but they weren't socialists and they weren't crazy all the time.
When the election happened, I know a lot of people said that we're watching, you know, MSNBC,
I can't watch NBC anymore, and they went to CNN.
And then some people said, I can't watch Fox anymore.
They went to CNN, but CNN quickly lost their mind.
Did you see the latest poll?
Jonathan Turley just did an article on the latest.
poll. Do you know
where the most trusted
name in news is now
in the top 10 of trusted
names of news? Yeah, most.
No. No?
Well, if you count number nine, most,
yes. Number nine out
of ten. Nine. It begs
the question who was number ten.
It was
Sinclair.
Okay. Okay. So they're down to
Sinclair.
Number one was the BBC.
number two was Fox.
Number three was NPR.
So you immediately, I saw people online
because I posted this last night on Twitter
and everybody was like, oh yeah, well,
that's just a bunch of crazy nut job,
right wing people that were pulled.
Really? BBC was number one,
NPR or PBS was number three.
I don't think so.
Shows our faith in government institutions
to tell us the truth, though, doesn't it?
I mean, BBC and NPR are at the top of the list.
But I would actually go for the BBC,
more than I would go for an American news source.
I trust the foreign news sources a little more than I do
American news sources.
You big Al Jazeera guy like Hillary?
No, I mean, only because we saw this during Barack Obama.
They were willing to say it.
Everybody here was not willing to go anywhere and say anything
or do any kind of real reporting.
And remember, all of the real reporting on Barack Obama happened overseas.
Yeah, a lot of that was.
the other part of that that's interesting is they don't have the same
the feeling of hesitation
to say something about Barack Obama.
For example, like they like universal health care,
single payer health care.
So they don't feel the need to defend Barack Obama.
He said that a long time ago.
He doesn't mean that anymore.
Don't worry.
You can keep your doctor.
They don't feel that need.
Right.
Because they're already down that road
and they think that's a good thing.
Right.
So they're a state to say,
well, he actually wants those things,
which of course was true.
was just denied by everyone here.
No, it was not, Stu.
No?
He was not for any kind of socialism at all.
You're a racist for even thinking that.
Isn't it absolutely incredible how socialism now all of a sudden?
When I said on Fox,
and we're trying to find the first time I said it,
but I remember I said it the first time on Fox,
I can see it in my head.
I know exactly where I was standing when I said it.
And because I think I just said it just off the top.
of my head. And I'm like, believe me, they were pounding me for saying that Barack Obama was
possibly a socialist. And I'm making the case, how is he anything else? Look at the policies.
And they were pounding me saying that was racist and no, socialism, that is just a racial slur.
No, it's not. No, it's an economic policy. That's what it is. It's an economic system that has
failed every time it's tried.
So I remember saying, you watch, at some point, they're going to have this thing so
screwed up. At some point, they're just going to take off the masks and they're going to
be, yeah, I'm a socialist. Damn right. In fact, capitalism doesn't work. We got to try
something new. Well, here we are. Is it still racist to call somebody a socialist?
I mean, here we are. Did you see the art?
article in in from Vox from Megan day it's incredible and and really a great piece love it great
piece of writing that is was completely necessary yep for the American people right now this is
something where the mask has come completely off and she's not ashamed of it nor should she be
I'm not ashamed that I'm a constitutional capitalist why should she be ashamed that she's a
a big state socialist.
So she writes a very honest piece.
And let me just give you the start.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democratic socialist who won the New York primary race with New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon.
Nixon has embraced the political socialist label as well.
They are not the traditional socialist.
There is no call for communal ownership of production, says.
and MSNBC anchor while trying to define Democratic socialism,
a term that is burst into the political scene.
I am open to persuasion on this,
but my instinct is that if you mean by Democratic socialism
is stuff FDR proposed,
you might be better off using a more all-American reference point,
like the New Deal or FDR.
Now, this is according to the Vox senior correspondent
and to MSNBC, as they are trying to excuse it
and minimize it.
Then she quotes me,
Democratic socialists will not be covered by the media as the radicals that they are, said Glenn Beck.
They're going to be covered as innovative, millennial-friendly upstart with fresh ideas
when they're really diet communists.
That's a good way of putting it.
Right.
Okay.
So the phrase she says is indeed everywhere.
So what does it mean?
And she starts to tell us exactly what it means.
In a very honest way.
Again, this is in Vox.
You can read it.
We'll tweet it out for Matt World of Stu at Clembeck.
She writes, I'm a staff writer at the Socialist magazine, Jacobin, and a member of the DSA.
By the way, have you ever read Jacobin?
I mean, bits and pieces.
I just read it two days ago.
It is, it is not anything like American philosophy.
No, I mean, it is.
And look, you know, American philosophy is, I certainly.
appreciate it quite a bit.
And I think I tend to go to the idea
that it's a miracle.
Jonah Goldberg's book talks a lot about that.
But that doesn't mean
it's the only philosophy.
And if you're going to believe something else,
you should admit it.
So she does.
I'm a staff writer at the Socialist magazine,
Jacobin, and a member of the Democratic Socialist
of America.
And here's the truth.
In the long run,
Democratic Socialists want to end capitalism,
period.
In the long run, Democratic Socialists
want to end capitalism.
We do that by pursuing a reform agenda today in an effort to revive a politics focused on class hierarchy and inequality in the United States.
Isn't that what's happening?
We are seeing the end, as I've told you, we are seeing the end now of the progressive movement.
It's still progressing towards this, but you're now getting to a place to where it is so juxtaposed to our system that everything is starting to break down.
The gears are starting to grind because we're need.
a capitalist society and one that follows the Constitution, nor are we a socialist or communist
society. We're neither. And these two things do not go together. The age of reason and the age
of postmodernism cannot coexist. And so we're at this point of choosing. And it's coming down
on us pretty hard soon. Democratic socialists share goals with New Deal liberals, but they want to
go farther pooling society's resources to meet people's basic needs is a tenant of social
democracy, one that's been advocated domestically by much of the labor movement and by many
of his political supporters among New Deal and post-New Deal liberals. This is a vision we share,
but we also want more than FDR did. Many observers see groups like the Democratic Socialists
pushing for policies like Medicare for all and decide that we must actually be something like
New Deal liberals who are simply confused about the meaning of socialism. That
That's not true, period.
Our goal is to rein in the excesses of capitalism for a few decades at a time,
and we want to end our society's subservience to the market.
Medicare for All is an instructive example.
Winning single-payer health care in the U.S. would be enormous relief to millions of Americans.
Many progressives and an increasing number of centrist liberals, hell, even a few Trump voters,
want private insurance industry to be replaced by a single comprehensive public insurance program.
We want that too.
But we also know that Medicare for all is not socialism.
It would only nationalize insurance, not the whole health care system.
Doctors would remain private employees, for example, though under some plans they would be required to restructure their businesses and entities.
Democratic Socialists ultimately want something more like the British National Health Service, NHS,
in which everyone pays taxes to fund not just insurance, but doctors and hospitals and medicine.
as well. So it's the VA. Why didn't why didn't people have to go to the NHS?
It's just the VA. That's what the VA is. Why do they have to go to the NIH?
It's the VA. Everyone works for the government. The government calls the shots.
They have eye care. You could get those really nice black glasses, which are coming back in style now.
You know, if you're really, really woke, you can have the glasses that the government has been selling to veterans and people of the VA.
the 1950s. It's wonderful. Why do you have to go to the NIH?
NHS. Or NHS. It already is here. All you want to do is expand the VA system.
It's incredible. So why are Democratic Socialists not demanding an NHS right now?
It's a good question, right? Because we currently don't have the support to push for and win such an ambitious program.
Some people say that this is a Trojan horse, but it's not.
it's right there.
And he was only talking about single payer in that clip.
They're saying here they want to go well beyond that.
Of course that is, of course.
They wanted single.
Why did they want single payer?
They wanted single payer because they want,
they want NHS.
They want NHS here in America.
And of course, I don't think that's the end step either,
but that's a whole other situation.
Social Democratic reforms like Medicare for all are
in the eyes of the DSA, part of the long,
uneven process of building that support
and eventually overthrowing capitalism, period.
These are not, I'm not making this up.
This is not, this is exactly.
I'd love to have her on.
This would be great because you know what?
She's honest.
She's honest.
I could talk to an honest socialist all day long.
I have absolutely no, I have no argument with an honest socialist.
I mean, I have lots of arguments, but at least it's, at least it's,
economic arguments, but I don't have any argument of, no, you're trying to twist the word.
You're trying to, no, just be honest.
Make a good case.
At least, then the conversation is,
worth something. So much of the conversation you see on cable news is two people yelling at each other
with their little agendas and there's no attempt to get anywhere. Right. This is someone who actually
is attempting to get somewhere. I believe in the Constitution and I'm willing to have the
constitutional argument. I'm willing to say the Bill of Rights. I'm willing to take very
unpopular positions and that is we cannot regulate the guns. You can't. You can't. You
can't because where do you stop? You can't say, no, you can't put these blueprints out.
Because once you put these, once you say you can't publish this, what else can you not publish in
America? It's an absolute right. Now, that's not easy to sell. That doesn't make you popular. It's
much easier to say, oh my gosh, well, that is just wrong. It's not popular to say, hey, that guy
was making a joke. You may not like the joke, but he has a right to the joke. But he has a right to the
joke and if you want him fired, that is the company's business. They have a right to fire,
but not because of a mob. Okay, that doesn't make you necessarily popular to say those things,
but I'm willing to say them. Here is a socialist who is willing to say, this is what we are.
This is our end goal. This is why capitalism fails. This is why we need to replace it.
And this is the way the world would look if we got our way.
I'm willing to tell you that if I had my way,
drugs would be deregulated.
Not overnight.
Not overnight.
We're not a society prepared for that much freedom.
Meaning decriminalized?
Yeah, decriminalized.
And making them available for everybody.
Making available.
Why are you regulating?
Why are you regulating?
Let people make their own decisions.
Now, the only way that happened,
is if we also reduce the state so the state isn't responsible for everybody who's on drugs.
That's not the state's jobs.
That's your job.
And it's your job as a community, your job as a church, your job as a human being to regulate yourself.
Well, you're not going to be able to get there right away.
That'll take decades to reverse this trend.
Okay.
I'm willing to tell you what the end looks like for me.
here's a socialist who's willing to do the same thing.
Apparently, I'd love to have her on the show.
Let's see if we can book her.
I like that.
Okay.
That's good.
I mean, I just, again, you want to at least have someone who's trying to tell you the truth.
Don't you?
Don't you?
Don't you want to vote for somebody.
Don't vote for.
Well, yeah, I'm kind of like that.
Kind of, but not really.
I mean, just tell me what you are and what you're not.
Stop lying.
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Do you hear about the theft of the crown jewels in Denmark?
I mean, this is almost like, oh, what's that?
What's the movie with the minis?
Do you remember?
Oh, Italian job.
It's almost like the Italian job.
So this group of people went and they stole the crown jewels.
in in Denmark they two crowns you know an orb and the you know I don't know staff of
you're a dummy I can hit you over the head whatever that thing is called and they haven't found
them yet and they're like we you're not going to be able to sell them there's a lot to this
story I'll get into it in about a half an hour from now stand by this is the Glenn Beck program
So I'm learning more.
I actually, I should say this.
I want to learn more about, you know, my behavior from watching the others.
And I don't think so off the top of my head, but I hope that we never acted like CNN.
Do you think we ever did?
That we never, we were so blind we couldn't see, we couldn't see what we were doing as well.
I mean, when it comes to, right now CNN is saying, oh my gosh, Donald Trump is causing so much violence.
Well, do you remember when CNN used to say that words on radio or on television, my one-hour show, would cause violence?
Look at what they're doing.
They're drumming it into people's heads 24-7, that this guy is a criminal and dangerous.
And there's a distinction there of a way we've talked about CNN.
and in the past in which they obviously I think lean left.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At least to our tastes.
But right now I don't think it's necessarily motivated by liberalism or progressivism.
No, it's just they hate him. Yeah. They really just hate him. Yeah. And they can't,
they don't like any of the things he says. They don't like any of the things he does. And like, you know, I don't love them all either.
But like, it seems to send them on this, this run of just out of control, um, hatred.
And when they, we talked about this before, when they think they've got them on something, then they really
lose it.
It's double and triple down.
And then when it doesn't do anything, they get more angry about it.
They get more angry.
I mean, they're just in this cycle where they're just going to snap.
Yeah.
I mean, like, yes, did people at the, you know, Jim Acosta got yelled at and people said CNN sucks
over and over again next to me.
Can I tell you CNN?
Do you know what people said about me in the streets?
Do you know what my life was like because you and the people on the left were drumming all kinds
of nonsense about me.
The same kind of...
Did you see what Cuomo was saying last night?
Cuomo did, like a chalkboard.
Cuomo was saying that...
What is it?
The letter Q?
Oh, yes.
17. 17.
17 is some sort of, you know,
mystical number that talks and is shadow communicating.
Well, it's that that Q conspiracy thing
that's been going around the interwebs for a while.
And to be fair, a lot of people at the rally were wearing shirts with it.
And, I mean, it was seemingly a relatively popular item at the rally.
What is the Q conspiracy?
I'm going to butcher this.
So if you're part of this and you love it, forgive me.
But basically, the idea is there is someone inside the government high-level security clearances
whose code name is Q on the internet.
And he is battling behind the scenes.
to overturn the deep state on behalf of Donald Trump.
And he slowly leaks out little breadcrumbs to the audience that's following this, you know,
anonymous user.
And they are, they interpret what he says and build sort of conspiracy theories around it.
Oh, this sounds healthy.
Oh, no, it's really healthy.
Like, this is the one, I think we talked about this.
Roseanne is a believer.
apparently in this.
And it's a situation
where it started with him making a really
innocuous comment in a speech,
Trump, where he said, you know,
this is the calm before the storm.
And that's like the genesis of this
that something is coming.
And honestly, what's really crazy about this
is part of this conspiracy theory, apparently,
is that Mueller
is actually not investigating Trump.
He's not a bad guy,
as you think most Trump people would say these days.
Because, you know, Trump has been saying it for a while.
He's actually a good guy working in tandem with Trump
under the guise of the investigation to overturn the deep state.
Holy cow.
So it's pretty involved.
So apparently he was, apparently Trump was communicating by using the number 17 during one of his rallies.
But he said there were 17 people or...
He said there's 17 Democrats or something.
And that means 17 is the, I guess, Q.
17th letter in the alphabet is Q.
Is Q.
Yeah.
And that was something he talked about on.
CNN. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Proudly.
Mock the Q conspiracy theory all you want. What is your
conspiracy theory on that?
I mean, unless he comes, I mean, maybe who knows,
Trump might tweet. Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
It was the Q conspiracy theory. Who knows?
But it's kind of, you know, out there.
Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say so. Probably a little more
out there than George Soros
uses the open society
to create a new world
that, you know, is borderless.
is much more socialistic.
I mean, I can show you the accounting of that.
Chris Cuomo, what, what am I supposed to do with,
he said 17, and that's the 17th letter of the alphabet is Q?
What am I supposed to do with that?
Well, your conspiracy theories went farther than that.
For example, you said stuff like in the long run,
Democratic socialists want to end capitalism,
and social democratic reforms like Medicare for all
are part of the long, uneven process of building that support
and eventually overthrowing capitalism.
Well, yeah, okay, so that conspiracy.
Oh, wait, we just had a Democratic socialist print in Vox, that very thing.
So, you know.
I mean, like, think about this.
Glenn Beck goes on and does an interview today.
You go on CNN, you go on one of these news channels today.
And at some point during the interview, they're going to reference the fact that in 2009-ish,
you said that you believed
you asked the question
is Barack Obama a racist? Does he have a problem with white
culture? Which white culture being a quote from Barack Obama's book?
But you asked that question and you could ask about it
about every other interview.
Think about that. That little
meaningless throwaway comment
which by the way we talked about much more in depth later on if you want to go back
and listen to the archives. But that throwaway comment
on Fox and Friends as a guest gets you asked about it
more than a decade later,
still a focus of the media.
Today, we hear about Jim Acosta getting yelled CNN sucks
by some people around them that didn't do anything else other than that.
They said CNN sucks and they do believe it.
You know, they think CNN sucks, you know.
I think CNN sucks.
I don't, yeah, and I do a lot of times too.
I also wouldn't want to yell that at reporters as are doing their job.
But like, let's not overblow it for more than it was.
It was a bunch of people chanting at a rally.
One year ago, a Democratic socialist supporter attempted to kill 10% of Republicans that were elected in the United States in Washington, D.C.
They were playing softball, and a gunman came out and tried to kill all of them.
One year ago, not 10 years ago, one year ago, this occurred.
And it is tossed away as if it was just a little blip on the first.
radar. He tried to kill everyone. He was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer and tried to kill
everyone on the Republican side. And we're supposed to get worked up over CNN sucks to a reporter.
That is insanity. And of course, of course they're not going to listen to you when you make
points like that. Of course they aren't. Of course they're not going to take you seriously.
I mean, that would last if God forbid anything happened like this on the other side.
God forbid we would never hear the end of it.
Never.
In 60 years, they would still be telling it and blaming it on us.
Yep.
And it's just, you know, I want to give the media the benefit of the doubt because some of the things that they do are good.
And there's some people at CNN and on these other organizations that do a good job.
Yes.
But, man, it's frustrating as an organization to try to take some.
something like that seriously, when you treat the other side so absurdly, when you are so
focused on leaning one way, leaning forward, as MSNBC used to say, when you're looking
that way, I mean, you can't be honest, you can't be taken seriously by people that you continually
belittle.
When we came to the Tea Party, it was they were constantly being referenced as violent and
angry people. We were constantly told that our words mattered so much that in a campaign piece,
Sarah Palin could not use we're targeting this district because that would be a trigger,
a silent trigger to people. And how do you know who's listening to you when you say we're going to
target? That means we're going to target and we should get a gun and target. No, no, that's not what it
means. And look at what you're doing. Look at what you're doing. You said that when we went out in the
Washington Mall, that it would be violent, that it would be racist, that it would be hateful. It was
none of those things. The left sent the Black Panthers into our crowd. They sent Al Sharpton into
our crowd to march. And what did we do? We loved them.
we loved them
that's not what they wanted
and you called us all kinds of names
you CNN
you are preparing
this nation for a civil war
you are
tilling this ground
every day
there is more speculation
on CNN day in
day out than I believe in my
entire career
please do not talk to me
about speculation. Please do not talk to me about racism. I said, the president, I think, I said,
I think he's a racist. And I immediately took that back. No, that's not the right word, but he has a
problem with the white culture. From his own book, he calls white culture. Now, tell me, CNN,
was that so wrong of me to ask? Because what I was sensing at the time was something I had never felt
before. What I felt at that time was someone is coming against and trying to say that white people
are bad. White culture is bad. The Western culture. The Deo-Christian culture. The hierarchy that we have
built. Well, gee, CNN, it seems like that's exactly where we are now. That white men are
the problem. Men are the problem. That's what I was.
sensing. I didn't know how to express it. Now, you might be sensing something. You are saying,
well, I think all those people are racist. No, that's not what they are. Just like, just like
Barack Obama wasn't a racist, but he had a problem with the culture. There's nothing wrong
with that. There's nothing wrong with that. Just say it. So we know who you are. So we can have a real
conversation. He had a problem with American culture. He did. All universities are teaching that.
It's not a secret anymore. There's lots of people that have a problem with the white culture.
Now, what you're feeling, Donald Trump is a racist. No, no, I don't believe he is. And I don't believe
the supporters of Donald Trump are racist. I think
that there might be some that are just like,
I'm sure there were some Black Panthers
that really liked Barack Obama.
There's a difference.
What you're sensing is people that say,
my culture is okay.
And my culture is, is homogenous.
It is.
But it comes from everywhere,
and we melt into each other.
and we all our differences make us stronger when they're added to the whole e pluribus unum.
You want to get away from the unum and just leave us as pluribus.
As many, many don't create anything.
It's one that creates and you know it.
You know it.
Why are you so afraid of dividing the country?
Why are you so afraid?
Dividing the country.
They're dividing the country.
Of course.
Of course.
That means destruction.
That's why we got to concentrate on the unum.
But everything in our society has concentrated only on our differences.
And this is what happens when you only concentrate on differences.
And you start pointing fingers, that group and that group and that group.
I'm part of the human race.
I'm a human.
I believe humans fail a lot.
I know enough about history to know that humans enslave people.
All different races have done it.
I also am a student of American history to know how bad we have been as a nation,
but I also know how great we can be when we come together and you don't do it the way.
the way you are doing it 24-7.
Don't you dare talk to me about my three-hour radio show and my one hour on Fox.
Don't you dare do it.
You do it 24-7.
And if there is bloodshed, I'm going to use your words.
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Glenn's back.
I apologize for letting my anger get the best of me here.
we're better than this.
I need to be better than this.
And CNN, I'm only using your standard.
I'm only using the media standard.
That's it.
You preach to us for eight years.
You don't understand why you're making the country mad at you, half of the country,
because you told us for eight years,
anything we say is dangerous and would cause violence in civil war.
And look what you're doing today.
Use your own standard.
Not mine, yours.
Mercury.
In the next five minutes, I'm going to tell you what is really going on in America.
In the next five minutes, you will understand, I believe, why there is a chance of a civil war in America.
What is it that really divides us?
Is it race?
No.
It's a tool.
Is it income?
Nope.
It's a tool.
Is it left and right?
Nope.
What is it that is that people have?
have been feeling and they just, they can't stop themselves.
They cannot stop themselves.
And let me explain both sides.
But let me start with this example.
Right now, CNN is Jim Acosta, you know, was at a Trump rally.
And he tweeted, just a sample of the sad scene we faced at the Trump rally in Tampa.
I'm very worried that the hostility whipped up by Trump and some of conservative media will
result in someone getting hurt.
We shouldn't treat our fellow human beings this way.
The press is not the enemy.
Well, I'm a member of the press.
I would like to say, do you accept me as a member of the press and that I'm not an
enemy?
Because I've been treated as an enemy.
In fact, everybody who was involved in the Tea Party was treated by the press as an enemy.
We were called revolutionaries, anti-government.
We were called dangerous.
So, I guess, Jim, help me out.
Or do you just know what's right and right?
wrong. And that's the beginning of the problem. Let me give you something else. Now, this comes from
Mark Caputo, who is a Republican, writes for Politico. He apologized right away. But I just want
you to hear because, and I'm using this as an example, both of these tweets, we have to grow a thicker
skin. Grow a set, man. Good God. Are we this? Are we this bored? Do we not have other things
going on in our life? Get over it. It's a tweet. Okay. But I'm using these.
as an example to to illustrate my point.
He writes in favor of Jim Acosta and he says, if you put everybody's mouth together in this
video, you'll get a full set of teeth.
Okay.
So he's making fun of them.
All right.
Then the next tweet.
He says, oh, no, I made fun.
I'm quoting.
I made fun of garbage people jeering at another person as they falsely accuse him of lying and flipping
him off.
someone fetch a fainting couch.
Now, again, he's apologized for this.
He's taken it back.
He says it does no good to do this.
It's divisive.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But it illustrates my point.
What is the real divide?
The real divide in America is simply this.
There is a group of people who think that they are better than another group of people.
They're smarter.
They're more well-educated.
they're more stable.
They have all the answers.
And they should be in charge.
And everyone else is a moron.
Then there is another group of people.
And that group of people are tired of someone saying,
I'm better than you.
Someone saying, you're stupid.
You don't get it.
I can't tell you the truth about this health care.
I'm just going to, I'll do it by hook and by crook.
They're tired of being looked down on because they look differently,
dress differently, live a different lifestyle, go to church, you don't go to church,
it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Whatever the reason is, because you live in Central Park West, because you're in the media
elite, because you went to the right schools, and you are surrounded by people who think
like you, you have decided you know best. You're smarter, you're better somehow. Would any of you think
about going in, live in these media centers? Would any of you think about just moving into the
center of a country and moving into a red neighborhood? Not because of politics. Or is that
trailer trash? Garbage people. That's what this is about. And this, this, this
goes down to progressivism. Progressives have always thought we, the educated, those who have
power in the media and in the universities and in the government should look at the rest of the
sheep and we know best. That never works out well. So this isn't really about the anger is
only coming from the two Americas.
And it has nothing to do with money.
I'm out busting my ass, working at a 7-Eleven trying to feed my family, and you somehow
are better?
You somehow or another know what will fix my life?
You can judge me.
It's because the elite have such a dismissive view.
of people who aren't like them,
that they aren't listening.
They can't even begin to understand it,
and they don't care.
Those people are stupid.
They're garbage people.
I warn you,
they're not garbage people,
and you're not garbage people.
We're all just people.
And we need to find a way to live together side by side.
That's crazy, but our founders found a way to do that.
It's called the,
Bill of Rights.
And if we would
just come back together
and respect one another's
individual choices and individual
life and celebrate
that somebody else is different,
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Charles CW. Cook is the editor of National Review Online, and he's written a really great article,
The Unserious Face of an Unserious Movement.
And it's all about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
And I think he helps answer a question that at least I have.
Well, what?
How does somebody go through and have two degrees, one in foreign affairs and one in economics
and then not be able to answer any of those questions as she is doing?
Welcome to the program.
Charles.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me.
Sure.
So tell me your thoughts on Cortez.
Well, I think we should separate out her from the movement she represents.
It seems to me undeniable that there is some energy in the Democratic Party behind what they call democratic socialism.
Yes.
And this is certainly going to come to the fore in the 2020 Democratic primaries, even if it's glossed over now, because there are so many seats in play, you can custom build your candidate for your area.
You can't do that in the presidential election.
And as we saw in 2016, Bernie Sanders does represent a.
growing contingent on the left. That of course is a separate question from whether she is any
good at her job and the answer to that is no. She's not. Now people have asked me, well,
why do you care? Why did you bother writing about it? The answer is because they care. They're
promoting her. She's running up and down the country in different jurisdictions in which he's not
running, Kansas, for example, making the case for her ideology and endorsing and endorsing and
supporting candidates. She has been chosen as a young faith of a facet of our politics. She's making
videos with Bernie Sanders. She's doing the rounds on the Sunday show. She was on firing line.
She's being name-checked everywhere. So it would be a bit ridiculous to ignore her. And I hope that
the public doesn't ignore her because she's not actually a great saleswoman.
No, she's really not. No, she's really not. But you know what's with there was a there was a story
that came out from Vox yesterday, where a Democratic Socialists came out and said, look, here's who we are.
We are not FDR. It's not who we are. We believe in the end of capitalism. So there are serious people who are Democratic socialists.
Well, they're not necessarily serious. There are certainly people who are Democratic Socialists.
Why do you say they're not serious?
Well, I don't think that that is a serious position. I don't see capitalism as sort of one.
a toolbox that you can choose, that you can latch on.
I don't agree with the contention that you can choose your economic system and you can
choose your political system and you can put it together like some sort of, you know,
candy pick and mix operation.
You can't.
If you want to have a house.
I know, I mean, I hate to point this out to a man who sounds like you with your accent,
but I believe that's what our founders did.
No, I don't think they did.
I think that you cannot have the American constitutional order without capitalism.
Because if you have to...
I agree with you on that.
The argument, I mean, they use the words quite deliberately democratic socialism.
What they're trying to do is get over the initial objection, which is, look, socialism tends
to lead to an absence of democracy, an absence of political rights, an absence of individual
freedom and so on and so forth.
But this time it'll be different because we're not talking about Stalin.
we're talking about Norway
or what they think Norway is like. Now, I don't want
to suggest for a moment that these people want
to put people in camps. I really don't think that
they do. I also don't think that
what they want is achievable. In my view,
capitalism, or I don't really
like the word capitalism, I would say free markets
or an open society. These things are
a prerequisite to the sort
of political order that we want to cherish
in America. Because ultimately, you
cannot have socialism without increasing
government
government force over every other aspect of human life.
I think that's what the grind is right now that people don't really understand, and that is
we are not a constitutional republic, although we are still more of that.
We're not fully capitalist, and we're not a socialist or, you know, communistic or fascistic
state.
We're just a little of all of it, and that doesn't work.
It just doesn't work.
You've got to choose one or the other.
Well, I think that's right. I think that's right, yes. And I'm a conservative and I am a fairly radical, classical liberal, I suppose. You know, I think we've gone far too far. I think that the New Deal didn't just damage the economy. I think it damaged our politics and our institutions as well. So I agree with you on that.
But look, this is somebody who is not even capable of defending the position that she is supposed to be advocating.
So is this?
She exposed herself as somebody who does not have a strong grasp of economics or politics.
If you were, if you were part of the hierarchy of Boston University, wouldn't you try to, wouldn't you want her to kind of sit down and keep quiet?
because honestly, if this is the way someone is churned out from that university with a degree in both economics and foreign policy,
and she can't really articulate foreign policy and she can't articulate anything economically,
what kind of education did she get?
This is a problem in the world.
It's startling how much we have turned to what I call credentialism.
I often say this to people.
My dad loves school at 15,
I've been in the Air Force,
and he started his own business.
And the way we look at human beings now
is to assign him less value than me.
I went to university.
But that's preposterous.
That's not how people learn.
It doesn't in any way indicate somebody's worth.
So it doesn't surprise me that she's ignorant.
What does surprise me is that she's willing to embarrass herself
in the way that she is by starting sentences.
Well, you know, I'm one of the only people
with an economics degree in the house.
It's also premature. She's not in the house yet.
But even if she were, if you start a sentence by making available your credentials,
she better damn well back it up.
She hasn't.
You go through a lot of the mistakes that she made, Charles,
and just in the first few interviews that she's done, and they're dramatic.
I mean, the idea, you know, the one that I caught, you know, when she was saying initially,
the $700 billion increase in military budget, I mean,
Someone, economics and foreign affairs, how you could not understand right on its face that that's not true, that that is the entire military budget and not just an increase in it.
These are the types of things that are, this is surface level information for anyone who would want to participate in this debate.
You know, I don't, again, I think credentialism is a great thing to talk about because we really do, we do this all the time.
We act as if just because you've got this degree that you're above the rest of society.
And we discussed this with Brian Kaplan before about how we now are just striving as a country to show off the pieces of paper that we have rather than actually acquiring knowledge.
That's exactly my view.
And it leads to a classism that I abhor.
And as you noted earlier, I'm not originally from the United States.
Britain, which has its own issues with class and they've got worse and worse and worse.
But unfortunately, I do see some of the same trends popping in here.
If you remember when Scott Walker was running for president, albeit briefly, back in 2015,
Howard Dean said on Morning's Day that he couldn't be president and shouldn't be president
because he hadn't finished his degree.
Now, in what universe could you look at Scott Walker and say, the guy's a failure?
The two-time governor in Wisconsin.
Why did it matter that he hadn't done his last credit?
It only matters if you judge people in this peculiar, sort of credentialized manner.
If I were a plumber or an infantryman or a truck driver, I would have looked at that and thought,
well, what are you saying?
Are you saying that I am a second-class citizen?
Are you saying that I'm not good enough?
Are you saying, in fact, that America's political institutions should be closed to me
because I didn't go to the right monastery as a young man.
I think it's a big problem.
And I think she's probably exposing that as well as anybody to it.
I think that's, I mean, I just did a monologue, Charles, on the real grind in America.
What's really, what's really irritating so many Americans is there are two groups of people,
one that think they're better and they're smarter and they can make all the decisions.
And the others who are like, I'm not garbage people.
I don't feel that way about you.
Why are you looking down and trying to tell me I'm stupid or I'm less than?
And I think we've lost the message of the Statue of Liberty.
I mean, the line of keep your storied pomp.
That's why people came here because there were guilds you had to belong to.
You had to have the right title.
You had to be in the right family before you could do stuff.
We're recreating everything that we tried to get away from.
I think that's right.
It's an odd paradox here because we quite like dropouts,
but only people who go into field and make a billion dollars.
We like the fact that Bill Gates is a dropout.
We like the fact Mark Zuckerberg is a dropout.
Tom Hanks is a dropout.
We still value that.
But if you drop out and you become a plumber and you make good money
and you enjoy your work and you're very, very talented in your own field,
we put you in the other class, I think.
I really, really don't understand why.
Charles, what are we headed for?
How much trouble are we headed for?
Well, I think that's the million-dollar question.
It is always the case that we need to re-fight the fights of the past
because nothing is ever won.
Nobody learns lessons forever.
We do seem to be in a period in which we've forgotten some of those hard-bought lessons.
and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and others demonstrate that.
If we don't relearn, then we're in serious trouble.
But I'm hopeful that we will, and I suppose I have to be given my job
and what I do for a living.
I believe that we can win because we are right,
and we're more in touch with human nature and reality, I think.
Charles, thank you very much.
Charles C.W. Cook, you can follow him at
Charles C.W. Cook with an E.
Thanks, Charles.
There was a great, a few great articles in National Review.
But Jim Garrity has written one that, of course, the headline just caught my eye.
The end is nigh.
And, I mean, now I have to read it.
But I was, I was struck by this article on what he's thinking about on problems.
he's he's thinking deeper than I'd say 90% of the deep thinkers in America that talk about politics,
maybe 99% on some of the some of the things that are coming our way and the solution for it.
Jim, how are you?
So let's let's go over the things that keep you up at night, that we're in this article.
And he hits a lot of, you know, that sense of you can lose yourself in this.
Fortnite.
You know, once we really get virtual, you can put on those goggles and feel like you're in a totally different place.
Now with a movie star, being a race car, or any of that kind of stuff, how many people get temporal?
How many people would rather be in a virtual reality?
Not want to deal with what is it bitterly, a very, you know, very troubled reality, real world problems.
Jim, you know, when this becomes, you're sorry, go ahead.
No, I was so pleased to see you right about this.
This is something that has been on my mind for almost a decade now.
And it is, you just can't tell me human nature.
I mean, for instance, Japan, they're having a hard time because sex dolls, sex robots are just going to zero population growth now.
When that's actually good or when that's actually virtual reality at its apex, why would anyone date?
Why would any guy say, oh, yeah, I want to, I want to come home and have somebody say, oh, you know, you never talk to me.
you never do this.
You never take the garbage out.
I'm going to come home to a virtual reality woman
who knows everything that I'm interested in,
makes my world wonderful.
And I mean,
why would you ever leave that world?
Why would you ever leave?
I don't know if technology allows you to make out with Claudia Schiffer.
It's going to make crack look like Sanka.
It's true.
Life is going to have really tough problems.
And the question is,
how do you respond to them?
And it's kind of tough.
this, the technology, and, you know, that could be a very big problem.
You look over the last couple of jobs who came here last month.
Yes.
Jobs who came to Charlottesville, not the people of Charlottes.
Right.
In cells, which kind of ties into what you were saying about Japan,
Columbiners, which are these, you know, deeply troubled young people who kind of get
obsessed and maybe it has, but they come to the conclusion that the only real way they
can deal with it is to lash out and usually through violence.
Oh, hey, snap out of it, suck it up.
Your life is tough.
You can still do great things with your life.
stop whining. Instead, you get this message of, oh, no, you're right. They're out to get you.
You know, they are holding you down. None of your problems in life are your fault.
You don't even have to go to the nut jobs. Look how outraged we are at tweets. At tweets,
we go apoplectic. And it's just this nagging, you know, I was thinking about the street without
a permit. Yes. I don't you feel we get a lot of these stories of people calling problems that
you figure most grown adults could work out, you know.
The case in Maryland, when they, the kids who were unattended and somebody called 911
over them, Ranger Danger, as a bid like another 9-11, not forbid, chemical stuff like people
just strangers.
That's when we change.
That's when we permanently change.
The thing that has always been different is, I mean, Einstein, one of his letters on America,
on America and why it was different was because the Americans were always looking forward.
They were always looking for the best.
They accepted the stranger and brought them in, and they were warm to them.
That's unique to America.
...of our divisions and things like that.
And then you kind of wonder what, you know,
I don't want that rates fairly low, speaking, teen pregnancy, abortion rates.
You do, we're actually in pretty good...
You know, what has he said today?
but let's take this curve forbid there's another action.
Jim, do you think the idea that we actually are in pretty good times right now is part of the reason why we are constantly overreacting to these little things like tweets?
We're kind of working on this premise here of Glenn's new book addicted to outrage.
And it does seem like part of the reason why we get so fired up and are so angry about such nonsensical things is because times are good and we can't find real problems.
We're constantly searching for the outrage.
You know, they're just a, and this sense of like this, this work out.
Right.
We've had the rug pulled out of a lot of time.
And like, eh, Lehman Brothers, you know, okay, it's one big fancy bank on Wall Street.
We've had enough experience to kind of make us a little bit paranoid that a small problem could turn into a big problem.
Sometimes a small problem, you know, something like that.
Us being a little gun-shy.
Yeah.
So we're talking to Jim Garrity, National Review.
and he's got a new article that's really, really good.
The end is nigh, you should read it.
The scariest thing, you lay out some really frightening things,
but the scariest thing is the last paragraph.
One in six American express approval of having the army rule.
More than 40% of wealthy Americans support the idea of a strong leader
who doesn't have to bother with Congress or elections.
Half of Americans, only half of Americans,
know that the First Amendment protects freedom of speech.
Half of us are arguing about what the laws ought to be.
based upon the Constitution, and the other half of us are arguing what the laws ought to be based on how our gut feels that day.
Our Unum used to be the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
There were certain things that we held self-evident, and they were unchangeable, and that's what brought us together and made us a melting pot.
But we've destroyed that.
We don't know it.
We haven't, we've been, our education has been subverted, and there is not.
no civics lessons anymore. That's the real key to fixing this, isn't it, Jim?
Remember the Jay Leno segments where he would talk to people on the street and show them a
picture of the vice president. But again, I think those civics class, if I want to do this,
and all this kind of, this is not a partisan problem. There are plenty of people, and they don't
even really want to think half. This is connected. This whole thing with the 3D printing is driven
me out of my mind in the last couple of days. We're talking, we're not even talking about the second
amendment yet. They're talking about a violation of the First Amendment. It's illegal. It will be
unlawful for you to knowingly publish. Fill in the blank. I don't care what it is. A recipe for
smallpox. You don't do that in America. You don't say it's unlawful to publish anything.
Watching Americans handle 2D printers, there is absolutely no threat of America.
I saw that. It's very funny. What does that mean?
Jim Garrity from National Review.
Thank you so much.
Jim, appreciate it.
Take care.
You've got to love when you can get the end as nigh
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When you can do that, that's very solid.
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Play the jingle here, Sarah.
to outrage.
Yes.
If you haven't had your daily hit of outrage, I'm about to give it to you.
And here's the good news.
Stu, what have you always wanted to do with your life?
My life?
I've always wanted to be judged, jury, and executioner of someone else's life.
Today is your day.
Yes.
If you can just become addicted to outrage.
So here's our new game.
Today we have somebody.
We have to decide should she stay?
Should she be fired?
Should we burn her at the stake?
I know what I'm going to pick.
Okay.
Now, this is going to be a hard one because it's the New York Times.
So you have to set your bias aside about how you feel about the New York Times or hell, just roll it all into one.
So there's a new editorial writer for the New York Times.
And she's made some amazing comments on Twitter.
Dumbass effing white people.
marking up the internet with their opinions
like dogs pissing on fire hydrants.
Oh, man, it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men.
As white people,
are you genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun,
thus logically only being able to live underground like groveling goblins?
Well, yes, that one.
The last one is true.
She's got a lot of them.
Okay.
We're going to spin the wheel, and we're going to decide her fate.
What happens?
Addicted to outrage.
Back.
Mercury.
Everybody, listen.
Shh, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet.
Listen, can you hear it?
The people who are working on Italian Job 3, the writers of Mission Impossible going to.
You've got to be kidding me.
How come we didn't think of that?
That's brilliant.
The perfect heist.
It's theatrical.
It's historical.
It has Crips and old royal jewels and Jetskis. This is the ultimate movie.
It happened in broad daylight, 14th century cathedral on a sunny day in Sweden.
Two men snuck into a cathedral, somehow, according to the Associated Press, the two men stole a gold crown and an orb dating back to 1611.
They were made for a king, King Carl the ninth in his funeral, jewel-encrusted crown dating back to 1625 that was used with Queen Christina's funeral.
So they took the orb, the staff, and two crowns.
Now, well, let me just give you the rest of the story.
The items were on display at an exhibition.
And people were inside when all of this was just taken.
Two men smash the security glass.
protecting the artifacts.
The sirens went off.
They grabbed the treasure.
They went outside.
They hopped onto a couple of bicycles.
They were weighed down by the loot packed on the back,
but they were in custom-made baskets for the bikes and infant carriers.
Then we're not really sure what happened.
Either way, they made it to a nearby dock and hopped onto some jet skis.
So they made a high-story.
of the stuff from the 14th century on jet skis.
I love this story.
I absolutely love this story.
They haven't found them.
I mean, this is really despicable and it's horrible.
Or is it?
Stu, I would like you to weigh in on this.
All right.
Okay.
It's, you know, 1600s.
You're a king.
Okay.
They make you a crown.
And then they put it in a tomb with you.
And then they just took it out recently to show it to everybody.
It's been in a tomb for like, you know, three, four hundred years.
Mm-hmm.
I say these guys aren't at robbers as much as they are just the first archaeologists.
Okay.
I mean, so what's the difference between opening King Tut's tomb and taking everything that they left there that, you know, he's going to take with him?
And this, you weren't using it.
Well, and they're stole it from someone who they stole it from.
Huh?
They stole it from somebody who already stole it.
Right.
I mean, they're ripping off a tomb.
Right.
Right.
And they're dead.
What are they going to do with it?
What are you going to do with it?
What are you not going to take their shoes?
I mean, if you need shoes and somebody's been buried in shoes, what?
It's a waste of shoes.
I need the shoes.
Let me have the shoes.
Just make sure you're endorsing grave robbery.
I'm just, I'm just saying, well, after a while.
I mean, not like shoes would probably be bad.
Okay.
Open it up for some shoes would be bad.
And especially new.
How nice are the shoes?
Some shoes can be quite expensive.
Like if they were the Pope's shoes?
Because those always are very fancy.
Pope's shoes are fancy?
I know Pope hats are fancy.
Yeah, the shoes are pretty fancy, too.
And the only reason why I know that is because of a drunken,
yeah, drunken mess I was one Christmas Eve,
you know, at the Vatican with the Pope
and ended up with me standing on a pew pointing at his shoes going,
Look at his shoes, man.
His shoes are fancy.
Wait, do we have a new story alert?
You should probably not dwell on that story.
No, wait, I've never heard this.
I think we need to move on.
We need to move on here.
I mean, is that his dream?
No, that was a real story.
It's not a proud moment of a life.
It's Thursday, August 2nd.
This is the Glenn Beck program.
But we can make it into a proud moment of your life right now.
No, I don't think you can.
It also in.
involves talking nuns out of their tickets to midnight mass.
You know, I was 20.
You know, it was maybe 25.
Maybe 45?
No, no.
I was definitely in my 20s.
And it's not one of the prouder moments of my life.
And I was with a friend.
And the story ends with a very terse phone call from his.
very Catholic father
who was
happening to watch
midnight mass that year
from Chicago
and he
called his son
and said
was that you
and Glenn
standing on the chair
pointing at the Pope
and all I remember
was saying
I don't know what he's talking about
What are you talking about?
It was very...
I don't want to hear anything else you're about to say.
I don't know we go on to other things, too.
We just have to go on to other things.
Don't act like this is a responsible broadcaster thing to do.
You just don't want to tell the story.
How have I never heard this story before?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's it's not one of those that you pull out like, hey, I just won an award.
This is not one that you pull out of them.
the bag.
So I was, you want to do this or do you want to go, I mean, we have addicted to outrage to
play.
We can only do one.
What's it going to be?
You know, you're trying to get out of it.
I'm just saying.
I guess it's your personal story.
You make the decision.
I'll go either way.
I don't think there's a question here.
I want to know what happened to you at the Vatican on television, apparently.
Is there footage of this?
Probably at the Vatican archives.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's, I don't know, the mid or late 80s.
And probably 1989, I think.
And I had gone over to do a USO thing, you know, on an aircraft carrier.
And then I decided to take a few weeks off and just, you know, just hang out in Italy and in Germany and just kind of, you know, do what 20 year olds do, I guess, you know, drink.
And so I stay there.
And this is really the beginning, I think, of my alcoholism.
Because if you travel Europe, especially Italy alone, and you discover how good red wine is, they serve it by the bottle.
And so every meal is another bottle of red wine.
So my friend joins me in the last week, and it's Christmas week.
And he's very Catholic.
And so he says, you know, I really want to go to Christmas Eve Mass.
And I said, well, I think you need a ticket for that.
And we don't have tickets.
And he's like, ah, crap.
So we spent, you know, all Christmas Eve, you know, just drinking.
And, you know, and just kind of going around and just being, you know, Christmas jovial Americans.
Okay.
Okay.
And so about 9 o'clock, we're completely hammered.
And he says, you want to go, you want to get in?
And I'm like, to the mass.
We were in St. Peter's Square.
It's packed.
And I'm like, how are we going to get in?
He's like, I have an idea.
So he leaves.
About 20 minutes later, he comes back.
And he's like, I got him.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
And he's, I got two tickets.
It's like, right, that's friend.
And I said, how did you get two tickets?
And he said, I talk these two nuns out of their tickets.
I said, you did, you what?
He said, no, I'm feeling bad now.
I'm hammered and I'm feeling bad.
I'm like, you shouldn't have talked to the nuns out of me.
He's like, oh, they come all the time.
They see the Pope all the time.
This is our one chance to see the Pope.
I'm like, this is fantastic.
Are you sure the nuns?
are okay and he's like absolutely they're okay and i'm like okay because if they feel bad i'll feel
bad but if they don't feel bad i'm going to see the pope so we we go in and you wait and you wait and
you wait and you wait and you sit and there's nothing to do and you're like this is really kind of
slow and then the pope comes in the music starts everybody stands up and it's very usually very
very restrained.
I would think it would be restrained, yes.
But we decided we were,
because we were about five or ten people away from the aisle.
And the Pope was coming and we couldn't see past the people that were there.
So we got up.
You want to solve a problem.
Yeah.
We got up on the little folding chairs that, yeah,
and stood on the folding chairs and he started saying,
it's the Pope.
And I'm like, I can't believe it's the Pope.
It's the Pope right there.
And he's like, this is incredible.
And I said, look at it, look, look at his shoes.
Even his shoes are Popish.
Look at that.
Popish.
Well, they were.
They were like, you know, I don't even know anymore.
But they were fancy shoes.
They were like, I don't know.
Red and either velvet.
or something and they had Pope signs or something on them?
I don't know, but they were fancy shoes apparently because that's all I really remember was like,
look at his shoes.
Were they blurry to your eye?
Was everything blurry to your eye at this point?
No, for some reason, I can see all of it.
Unfortunately, not from my perspective.
Somehow or another, my memory is from like a bird's eye view.
It's like God gave me a little extra gift.
I'm going to make sure you see this the way I saw this.
Okay, so you've now stood on a chair and pointed at the Pope's feet.
And you think this is over at this point?
Did they kick you out?
Nothing happened?
No.
No, not exactly.
No, I mean, I don't want to, you know.
Let's just say this.
two days later, on the good side,
two days later, we were flying home.
And we're walking down the streets of Rome.
And, you know, there's all these shops that priests shop at, you know,
and they have the casics and all that stuff.
And, you know, we're flying coach.
And my friend is a really good con man.
And he said,
you want to fly first class back?
and I said, how are we going to do that?
He's like, I got an idea.
Come on with me.
Oh, no.
And so we get to this store where it's all the, you know, stuff for, you know, bishops and stuff.
And I, and I, but to my credit, I said, no, this is going too far.
And so we didn't do it.
although we
He wanted to dress as a bishop
To get moved up to first class
Yeah
Or just a couple of priests
And I did
We didn't do it
That's good
That's a good choice Glenn
That was a good choice
And then we
We
We
We
We
I wish I could tell you
That the story
Ended with us
In coach
All the way back home
But it doesn't
Oh my
It doesn't end in
In coach
and I don't think I was.
We got on the plane and my friend had to go to the bathroom.
And as Peter was just about, you know, after the plane, you know, reaches altitude,
I hear an announcement that I am on my way home to get married to the love of my life,
who we hadn't seen each other forever and had found each other in a very, you know, a very
heartwarming way.
And all the stewardesses just thought it was this the greatest story ever.
So please, everybody, just give a round of applause.
And I was asked to come up with my friend and have champagne in first class on the way home.
Wow.
Congratulations.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It was very.
that's what happens
when you're one with a Pope.
That's what happens.
I don't think you were one with the Pope on that trip.
Thank you.
Thank you for bringing that.
I have to find this footage.
If there's anyone at the Vatican listening,
what year was this?
I think 1989.
1989.
If anyone has,
Christmas Eve,
Mass.
And you'll see us.
We were there.
We were there.
I have to find this footage now.
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Well, still, you just kind of blew this show all to hell.
It's the most important show we've done in years.
I got Josh holding in California.
He's got some important stuff.
We have really important, you know, we have, we have somebody to lynch as a mob today.
I was interested in that.
I still am.
But, I mean, I just want to make sure that we understand that somewhere out there exists video of the 1989 or 1990 Vatican Christmas Eve Mass in which you idiotic.
Idiotically are standing out chair pointing in the Pope.
I looked up Pope shoes, by the way.
Do a Google search for Pope Shoes.
Okay.
So the papal slippers are made of red velvet or silk,
and they are heavily decorated in a gold braid
with a gold cross in the middle,
chosen to reflect the blood of Christ's own bloody feet
as he was prodded and whipped and push along
the Via Dolorosa
on his way to the crucifixion.
I don't think they really reflect Christ's bloody feet.
They're nice.
You know?
Yes, they are red.
And I just remember them being very impressed.
You know, I am sartorial in nature.
So.
I'm not surprised.
Believe me.
The shocking part of the story is not the fact that you looked at the dude's shoes.
Like, that seems very Glenn Beck-esque.
The fact that you were on video.
I've gone through this entire career in front of the media,
and no one has been able to unlock video of you at the mass,
pointing at his shoes and drunkenly yelling.
As I was telling you this story just a few minutes ago,
it really didn't occur to me that you would be pushing for the look for that video.
It's interesting because I'm already coming up with a hashtag,
because I think this is something that America can unite on.
I suddenly have a really throbbing headache.
I'm not kidding.
just suddenly it was like right now a gigantic throbbing headache is because there's a lot of researchers out there that let it uncover
documents videos pictures i was making this whole thing up it didn't oh i don't think that's true you know
what we can figure that out though we don't need to we don't need to you know me i tell tall tales see they
have photos too so we could probably find you photos as people as as as you mentioned to me earlier they're
about what a third i don't remember i don't recall on the left side
If you're looking for the back.
I do not recall.
And you said about nine or ten seats in, I think, was the way you described it.
And I was heavily intoxicated.
I thought you said it didn't happen.
I don't.
In my imagination, I was heavily intoxicated.
I'm willing to take your hashtag ideas to get this trending.
How do we find the 1989 or 19, this is a long hashtag.
1989 or 1990 Christmas Eve mass video at the Vatican?
We need something, a catchy,
You know, it was even Pope John Paul.
I am so embarrassed.
It was Pope John Paul.
I've seen pictures from the event from the mass.
And, I mean, it looks like the type of thing that you wouldn't want to stand up on a chair and drunken appointed someone.
No, it wasn't.
No, it really wasn't.
I remember his father being very, very clear.
Please tell me that was not my son standing on a chair as the Pope came in.
it. That's when it all kind of went
and we realized
there were cameras there.
What have we done as a society
in which this video?
Think about, we criticize journalists all the time.
How have they not uncovered this already?
How has a major
journalistic organization
not pulled up this video
throughout this entire run of you?
You were a syndicated radio host 17 years ago.
I apparently was very good
at keeping the secret.
I don't even know how it came out now.
I don't know how we started down this.
But everyone, you should forget this.
These are things that did not happen.
This is not the papal story you are looking for.
We have something very, very exciting.
Are you addicted to outrage?
Have you fed that addiction yet?
Because we have something that I think is going to really just feed the fire of outrage.
Right?
Hit it, Sarah.
Addicted to outrage.
Yeah.
So I love being addicted to outrage.
It just doesn't get any better.
So we haven't gotten somebody fired.
Or, you know what, Sarah, we need torches or a bonfire or something.
So we might want to burn a book, too.
Oh, good.
All right.
Thank you.
It's been moments since we've forced someone out of their job for something.
And they'd tweet it or whatever.
Correct.
So now I just don't know what to do here, okay?
Sarah Geong, she is now on the Times editorial board, the New York Times, okay?
And she apparently might be joking, might be totally serious.
I don't know.
The fire is getting a little.
Can we throw?
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
I mean, it's got to be roaring a little bit, a little closer to it.
There we go.
Because we're talking about...
We're talking about a mob.
Fire needs to be pretty big.
Okay.
So, she's tweeted,
dumb-A-effing white people,
marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs
pissing on fire hydrants.
Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun,
thus logically being only fit to live underground,
like grovelling goblins?
She's tweeted, hashtag cancel white people.
She says, white people have stopped breeding.
You'll all go extinct soon.
This was my plan all along.
She tweeted, I just realized why...
Please throw some more books on the fire.
Sarah, please.
Thank you.
I just realized why I can't stand watching Breaking Bad or Battlestar Galactica.
The premise of both is just white people being miserable.
White men are BS.
No one cares about women.
No one cares about women and you can't threaten anyone on the internet except cops.
No way, you can threaten anyone on the internet except cops.
Let's see.
Oh, man, it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men.
Okay, so these are her tweets.
Now, if you were to, one way to tell if it's racist or not,
is always that just changed the color.
Can you imagine some of those with the word black instead of white?
No.
What would happen to someone who tweeted that?
Pat, do you have another book?
Throw on the fire, please?
All right.
Just throw a book.
What did you throw into the...
Your latest book.
No, no, no.
I have a galley.
I've got a galley.
I don't think you understand how this works.
No, I don't think you understand how this works.
It's pretty long.
It's like 468 pages, I think.
So it's going to burn for a while.
Yeah.
It's going to burn for a while.
Whoa.
Well, okay.
All right.
There goes to come and sense.
I just need to know.
Wait a minute.
No, you're not supposed to burn my books.
It's supposed to be burned books that
disagree with what we believe in.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Here's an inconvenient book.
Here it goes.
An inconvenient book.
It is my book.
All right.
Oh, liars.
So, arguing with a idiot.
All right.
All right.
Enough with the books.
Blow the fire out.
All right.
Now, here's the thing.
I don't know if we're supposed to be a mob and get her fired today.
If we're supposed to.
Do we know what she does?
What does she do?
She's on the editorial board.
the New York Times.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
So we don't know if we should get her fired.
We don't know if we should just start taking things out of context and calling her horrible
names.
Some would say stupid tweet.
The New York Times, you know, they knew what they were doing when they hired her.
That's who the New York Times is.
And you just move on with your life, you know, but I don't really like that one.
I don't either.
Yeah.
It doesn't make me feel good.
No, it doesn't.
Not at all.
You know, it'd make me feel good.
is she got fired and we burned her at the stake.
At the stake?
Do we have to use my books?
No, we don't have to.
No, I think we do.
I think we do.
I think we should.
All right.
Stu says we have to,
so I'm with him.
There we don't need to start it.
We don't even know where she lives or anything yet.
I have a lot of these books.
I just need to throw them in there.
Okay.
Because that was what makes us feel good.
If we are addicted to outrage,
truly, we have to feed that addiction.
Right.
We certainly can't overlook someone with terrible
opinions and just move out with our lives.
We could. I just, I'm throwing this
out here. We could just say, I got
better things to do with my time. I don't
really care. Of course the New York Times
has somebody like that writing for them.
And you know what we should do with that information
and not read it? Or maybe read it and make fun of it.
Right. We could do that. We could do that.
I'm just pitching for that. I don't feel good enough.
You don't feel good enough.
It gets us no visceral release.
Right. You know, we have no.
But don't you think it would be better if we all just kind of were like,
eh.
So she's,
you know,
a dumb racist that's writing for the Times.
I'm glad I have this information I'll know to avoid all of her,
all of her,
you know,
her rantings.
I know if I see her name on an opinion,
I'll know,
well,
this is coming from a racist,
so I just won't read it.
I don't,
it doesn't seem right.
It doesn't seem right.
No,
let's go the other way.
Let's go the other way.
I am really trying to,
I'm, what's her name again?
Well, it doesn't matter.
Whatever her name is, she needs to burn it to stake.
And I'm in here pitching for you.
But, well, it's like we were talking to Kevin Williamson this week.
He was in, and he did his first interview, by the way, since he was fired from the Atlantic, right?
I think it was his first one where he really talked about it in depth.
Did they know who he was?
Before they hired him?
Apparently not.
He said he taught, because I did the first interview with him this week since he left the Atlantic.
Yeah.
And so this is the first time he's talking.
talked about it. And that was one of the first questions I asked. Did they know? And he's like,
oh, yeah. He said, I even warned them. I said, they're going to take stuff out of context and they're
going to go crazy. And he's like, nah, we're the Atlantic. It's not going to happen. And then it
happened. Yeah. And we would like a, you know, what, a week later or 11 days. No, he was, he was three days in.
Yeah, wasn't he fired before he wrote his first thing for him? I think he wrote one thing.
Did he write? Yeah, I won something for about Roseanne. It was the only thing he actually got out.
But as he said, as you were talking to him, you know, the outrage mob got what they wanted,
and instead they'll have to read what I write at another venue instead of the Atlantic.
Like, what do they even get?
You know, it's not like the old days where maybe you could shame someone out of the New York Times
and then they'd be nowhere and have no career.
Like, this person, if you shame them out of the New York Times,
is just going to go somewhere else and write the same stuff somewhere else.
No, hang on, do you let the fire go out.
Oh, yeah.
There's a copy of the Agenda 21.
One of them.
Not a good.
Again, I mean, it's not going to happen, you know, if we burn her at the state.
Seems like a Christmas sweater needs to go on there.
I mean, that's the real one, too.
That's the one my mom made for me.
Yeah.
Not even in the book.
This is fun.
I like this game.
Yeah.
It's great.
Who else?
Who else?
Is there anything else we can burn at the steak?
or any books we can burn or Ben or anything else.
Oh, there's got to be.
There's got to be.
We could burn Jim Acosta at this day.
Oh, let's do that.
Let's do that.
He sucks.
Ooh, don't stop.
Blow the.
Do not.
That will cause violence.
Do not.
Somebody sucks right.
That's true.
Do not.
I worry about people's safety when you say things like that.
Go ahead.
Sarah, start the fire again.
So.
Now we can talk about burning them at the steak, but don't say they suck.
Stop!
Oh, I'm sorry.
Stop it.
Okay.
We cannot.
I'm going to ask you to put your torch down if you use that kind of language again.
Go ahead, Sarah.
Life isn't worth living without the torch.
It's really not.
I think we're better as a nation.
With torches and pitchforks in our hands.
When we can execute people in a mob sort of way.
for very little reason or none at all.
Yeah, that's when it's fun.
Yeah, that's what it's fun.
I got a, I got a, I found a really great, it's probably my favorite tweet.
I haven't, I haven't tweeted this out again or retweeted it.
I, I, I have to.
It's this, it's this, I got this.
And now it only had six likes, okay.
But it says a fitting end of fear mongering of Glenn Beck's manifesto of closed-mindedness.
And it shows my book being burned.
But you're close-minded.
But I'm close-minded.
You're actually burning a book.
Oh, my gosh.
And you are saying that I am close-minded.
I saw this the other day, and I thought, this is the best.
If this doesn't say it all, it literally says a fitting end to fear-mongering Glenn Beck's manifesto of closed-mindedness.
And what is that?
That's an inconvenient book.
book, right? Yeah. And they're
and they're literally
burning my book. That is incredible.
I mean, we gotta fight
fascism. Quick!
Get the torches.
Pat, what are you leading
today? What's the outrage
de jour for you today?
Well, I've got some interesting stuff
on Alex Jones again. He
claims that Barack Obama has
sex with ten dudes a day.
Stop the music. Just the ten? Stop
the music. Just ten. I mean, it's not like it's
a hundred.
I mean, this is a little Seattle's commercial right here.
I mean, I don't know how.
I mean, Barack, how old is Barack now?
He's like 58.
58, 10 times a day.
I don't know what he's doing.
Whatever pill he's taken, that's impressive.
Right?
Right.
It's also...
Does he have any evidence of that?
Well, if he does, he didn't share any of it.
Has he used the 10th letter of the alphabet?
Like Donald Trump was using, you know, 17.
which the 17th letter in the alphabet is Q, which means.
So what is the 10th?
Q, C, D, G, H, I, J.
Has he used a J word?
Jobs.
Think about how many time he used the word.
Oh my gosh.
He was signaling 10 guys a day.
Ten guys a day.
What?
Is this new or is this an old?
It's certainly new to me.
I've never heard the claim before.
No, no, I meant from Alex John.
I don't think he's...
No, I don't think I've heard that either.
No, this is new.
Yeah, I think this was yesterday.
Hmm.
So, well, so he's learning his lesson from all the lawsuits.
Yes.
Yes.
He's got it.
He's got it.
All right.
Thanks, Pat.
Pat will have all of the details, uh, and possibly pictures of the 10 dudes a day.
Coming up in just a few minutes.
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Glenn, back.
No, it's one of those things.
You'll forever, you'll be asked.
Where were you?
What were you thinking when you heard the first time?
that Apple was worth a trillion dollars and you'll say, I don't know, I have no idea, but this is
that moment.
This is that moment.
And it's a glorious one, isn't it?
Oh, it sure is.
Actually, it did cross a trillion dollars.
Now, of course, that's just a round number that means nothing.
But it is mildly interesting.
By the time you have that moment in the future when you say, where were you when Apple costs
a trillion dollars, you'll say to yourself, by the way, you still owe me that trillion
dollars for the lunch last week.
Right.
I mean, it's about how much that will feel like at that time.
But it is a pretty amazing thing when you think about it.
I mean, a trillion dollar market cap for a company that makes phones and cables that are annoying.
Please do not get me started.
Aren't you the person?
Didn't you tell me one time that you weren't appreciative of their cable length, was it?
Can you fill me in on the story there?
Nope, I cannot.
I want you to be addicted.
You're doing a book addicted to outrage.
want to see you outraged at the cord that brings the power, the electricity that powers your
amazing.
I can't believe it.
I'm not falling into this trap.
I've already fallen into one of your spider webs earlier today.
By the way, we have not yet uncovered the video of Glenn Beck in 1989 or 1990 at the
Vatican Christmas Eve Mass standing on a chair and pointing at the Pope's shoes.
Apparently this video does exist.
We're hearing rumors of some pictures from Michael O'Pelka, which I really want to see.
There are some pretty exciting developments here.
I'm never going to be able to go to the Vatican again.
Last time I was at the Vatican, they allowed me to go up onto the scaffolding to where they were,
were they redoing, you know, Michelangelo's.
I was up on the scaffolding.
And, you know, when you're up there and you're that close, I mean, I'm standing right there.
And they, you know, they, they, all I remember is somebody just saying, don't touch it.
And I'm like, well, you shouldn't let me up on the scaffolding this close.
You touched, you touched the Michael.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.
Have you ever touched it?
I know anyone who's ever touched the Michelangelo ceiling at the Vatican?
Me, I have.
Well, Michelangelo.
But other than that, what did I say?
Well, you said, do you know anyone else?
Well, Michelangelo.
And the people with their snooty, you know, cotton swabs who were up there, too.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, I don't have a cotton swab and a white jacket.
Don't change the subject.
This video exists.
We need to find it.
As a country, we can all unite.
I don't know not what you're talking.
To find this video and embarrass Glenn.
All right.
Okay.
Hey, today, you're going to see some college professors, some elementary and high school teachers.
Come to Jets on the TV show tonight.
You don't want to miss this.
Thank you.
