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Episode Date: June 30, 2021Glenn and Stu explain how the Democrats flipped the script on race relations within the GOP in the 1960s. President Biden is fulfilling Woodrow Wilson’s progressive dream. Pat Gray joins to talk abo...ut the latest fugitive finally charged: a 69-year-old grandma who entered the Capitol on January 6. Climate protesters, including AOC and the Squad, blockaded the White House. UAP witness Sean Cahill joins to discuss the newly released UFO report and explain what he’s personally seen. Investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson joins to review the NSA allegedly spying on Tucker Carlson and how the government could smear anybody it doesn’t like with the power it has. Alex Jones recently had some extremely odd things to say to Glenn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, hello, Stu.
Glad, how are you?
Welcome to the program.
Oh, my gosh, am I good?
We should note that tomorrow you go on vacation.
And tomorrow I go on vacation, I haven't even thought of that.
Yeah.
And judging by your mental state right now,
it seems like perhaps you're already, you're already on vacation.
I'm already on, I'm already on the virtual beach.
Really?
Huh.
I wouldn't have noticed that.
Hey, I've got a lot to say today.
Let me start with Kevin McCarthy.
You know, Kevin McCarthy was speaking yesterday and a lot of the Democrats just love what he had to say.
He says, Democrats are desperate to pretend their party has progressed.
from their days of supporting slavery, pushing Jim Crow laws, and supporting the clan.
But today, the Democratic Party have simply replaced the racism of the clan with the racism of
critical race theory.
Just a few years ago, Vice President Joe Biden praised Democratic Senator Robert Byrd,
who was, I think, the Grand Dragon, wasn't he still?
Was he the Grand Dragon?
I know he was.
What was he?
He won an award.
for his ability to recruit the most people into the KKK,
which I always thought was great.
It wasn't just that he was a racist.
Is that a serious?
He actually brought people across the line,
people who hadn't yet considered getting into the KKK.
He talked them into joining the Ku Klux class.
That's fantastic.
Well, if you're going to throw a fact on the table,
what the hell?
I will to.
He wasn't the Grand Wizard.
He was the exalted Cyclops.
of the Ku Klux Klan, which I've always wanted to be the exalted Cyclops.
I guess my only question would be who gave his eulogy, you know?
Was there anyone notable?
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, you're kidding me.
Really?
Yeah.
I have that answer for you.
Oh, you're kidding.
It would be Joe Biden.
And in his eulogy, he said, for a lot of us, he was a friend, a mentor and a guide.
A guide.
That's great.
That's interesting because people who are.
not in the KKK were guided into the KKK by Robert Byrd.
And now...
So in other words, what you're saying is he found a way to get people who may not have been racist to be racist.
Yeah.
He would convince them.
He would get there and they say, wait a minute, you don't think black people are inferior.
You should think that join me.
And that was one of the things he was most known for.
Total coincidence here.
Total coincidence.
You know that guy.
that Joe Biden said, you know, I look to as a guide.
Now Joe Biden is guiding people into thinking,
maybe they are racist.
Maybe I am a racist.
Isn't that great?
And then he's segregating people, you know, whites and blacks,
which is totally different than what Robert Byrd did
and all the other racist.
Let me tell you something.
Let me give you a couple examples.
Joe Biden is taking all of the great.
greatest racist presidents, and he is using all of their tactics. Let me give you some examples.
You know how people say that, oh, all the Democrats that were racist, all those Southern Klansmen,
they went to the Republican Party. Okay. I'd like you to give me the name of one. By the way,
you can use Google? Usually you're like, well, can you name 10? No, I just,
give me one and you can phone a friend, you can phone Google.
Give me the name of one southern racist Democrat that left the Democratic Party because of the
Civil Rights Act and became a Republican.
I could wait, but I don't have to because the answer is zero.
None of them did it.
So now what happened to all those crazy, well,
what happened to the exalted cyclops of the clan when robert bird was a democrat and then all of a sudden
they changed and they were like we like black people we're going to help them out with a great society
what did the grand cyclops do he of course got up and went to work as a democrat and the grand cyclops
every day yeah and we should note glenn that we you can't summarize robert
Byrd's career just based on what he did when he was in the KKK and was recruiting people,
that would be completely unfair.
He eventually did leave the KKK.
And years after he left, he totally changed his outlook on African Americans and race in
general.
And let me just give you a quote from that era if I could.
Just throw down a fact on the table.
Yeah, because I want people to understand it wasn't all KKK life for Robert Bird.
There was a totally different era.
Like after he left the KKK,
He wrote a letter, quote,
Rather I should die a thousand times
and see old glory trampled in the dirt
never to rise again
than to see this beloved land of ours
become degraded by race mongrel's.
And I thought that there was such passion in that
after he left the KKK.
And I thought it was just...
Well, I think we're all...
I think we're all on the same race mongrel page, aren't we?
Yeah.
You're in the Democratic Party.
Well, maybe not the same are.
Yeah.
Okay.
So everybody says, what happened?
When did the Democrats?
How did the Democrats do that?
How did they make the Republican Party, the one that was for the Civil Rights Act?
How did they switch everything around?
100 years, about 165 years, I mean, 115 years of getting along, being.
and cool, the Republicans leading the way with marching with black people for freedom and
everything else. How did they switch that in the 1960s? Well, they did it quite easily. They did it
with a compliant press. They did it with saying a lie over and over and over again, and people just
started to buy it. But they also switched the tables immediately. Immediately after
happened while it was still fresh in people's minds well they still went wait a minute johnson you
stopped the civil rights act five years ago what are you doing now you still use the n word we know that
you're a racist what are you saying now well i'm just saying what i'm saying now listen to me because
that's what i'm saying now what i'm saying is that i love black people and race mongers i love them
I love them, and I'm going to care for them.
I'm going to squeeze them so tight, so tight.
It's because I love them so much.
Some people say I'm choking them to death, but no, no, no, I did love them so much.
They're just going to hug them.
Uh-huh.
And you know what another thing?
It's those Republicans that were standing against the Civil Rights Act.
I'll tell you that right now is the Republicans.
Wait a minute.
I, it just happened.
It wasn't the Republicans.
It was you guys.
I'm just so busy hugging.
You racist for saying that.
I'm hugging these black people right now.
Okay.
What's happening?
What's happening right now with the Democrats?
What are they saying about defund the police?
We all know that it is the Democrats that wanted to defund the police.
We all know it was Republicans saying, bad idea.
but what are they doing?
They're coming out now and saying it's those,
I'll tell you what right now,
it's those Republicans
that want it all them police to be shot up
burning down our cities.
We stood against it.
I'd like to debate this right now,
but I'm so busy hugging black people right now.
I just hugging them so hard.
It's the same thing.
What did Woodrow Wilson do?
Woodrow Wilson did two things that stand out to me.
He sent out squads that were propaganda squads.
They were called Minutemen.
And they would go into parks and they would shout down anybody that was saying anything different.
And then they would tell you what the administration was doing.
Well, those Minutemen squads are now on cable news.
And they're louder than anybody else.
And they're just telling you the way it is.
is. And the way it was was Marxism. It was socialism. It was early 20th century progressivism. It was eugenics.
It was we can build a better person through science. All of the same stuff is going on. Oh, the other thing he did, he also tapped the phone lines and, and monitored all of the mail using the U.S. Postal.
service to go through people's mail, to go through and listen to their phone calls and
conversations because he deemed them to be extremist. But he also did it to his own people. He did
it to Congress. He did it to elected officials. He wanted to hear what the elected officials
were saying to the press. He wanted to know what the press was saying. Now, does that sound familiar?
Nothing has changed.
He is Woodrow Wilson.
This is Woodrow Wilson's dream.
He's Woodrow Wilson the last year when Woodrow Wilson was like,
I had a...
You take the slurping sound away, and you have...
And I'm Joe Biden.
He's the same guy.
Now, let me give you one more.
yesterday the energy secretary
said that we're not sure about what happened
in the Florida building collapse
can we play Jennifer Granholm here
do you think that climate
could have played a role in that buildings collapse
well obviously we don't know fully but we do know that
the seas are rising I mean we know that we're losing
inches and inches of beaches not just in Florida but
all around you know like Michigan
and where I'm from.
We've seen the loss of beaches because the waters are rising.
So, you know, this is a phenomenon that will continue,
whether it will have to wait to see what the analysis is for this building.
But the issue about resiliency and making sure we adapt to this changing climate,
that's going to mean levies need to be built.
Okay, so levies need to be built.
This infrastructure has to be passed.
Now, let me take you back in history.
Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson,
hey, listen to me,
and you won't go to war.
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Vote for me,
and all your wildest dreams will be fulfilled.
Then what happened?
The Germans bombed a munitions plant
that was on the coast of New Jersey.
It was right across from Liberty Island.
So the statue of Lillian,
Liberty had barely gone green.
She's still young.
The Germans come in a U-boat, and was it a U-boat or I think it was, no, it was just sabotage,
I think.
I don't know, you'll have to look that up.
But the Germans come in and they blow this munitions plant up.
It breaks windows for hundreds of miles.
It reads like a three on the Richter scale in Baltimore, Maryland.
All right?
It pierces the chest of the Statue of Liberty.
It cracks the arm.
That's why you can't go up into the Statue of Liberty because of this huge terrorist attack that you've never heard of.
Now, why haven't you heard about Black Tom?
You haven't heard about Black Tom because Woodrow Wilson couldn't let it be known that that was a foreign terrorist attack because he needed to be elected.
So what did he do?
He flipped it around and used it for his purpose.
He said it was these greedy capital.
that didn't have this thing secure, they didn't care about safety, they didn't care about the workers, the neighborhoods, they didn't care about anything except making money off of munitions. Any of this sound familiar? That's exactly what Granholm is doing right here. Except she's so we're going to let that we're going to let the science speak for itself, but that collapse? We don't know. We don't know.
I mean, you know, we don't have all the facts in, but we do know climate change is going to be doing this,
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I'm telling you that Joe Biden will go down as one of the most racist, the most,
the biggest propagandist since Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson wanted to change things fundamentally, and he did.
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Not on my watch.
Not on the day of my daughter's wedding.
You know what I'm saying?
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which is strangely not, it's strangely not the campaign of Joe Biden. It is even more strangely,
the slogan for the Great Reset from the World Economic Forum. While that's too much of a
coincidence, huh? Well, we do have a president who's known for plagiarizing, but that's a
not what's happening here. He's not hiding it because he's for the Great Reset. Let me just,
let me just put another thing into perspective. Housing prices are going through the roof.
It's not going to last. It's not going to last. So who's on the hook for this? You'd say the
banks, but it's not. It's the Federal Reserve and the U.S. government. Now, let me tie this into
one of the many goals of the Great Reset.
Many people are, I'm quoting, many people are already comfortable and busy renting things like
cars, tools, apartments.
So this has become a normal way to live.
It's easy to argue that shared commodities save resources.
You'll own nothing and you'll like it.
By the way, they don't say no one will own anything.
Notice that?
See, communists say, the people will own everything.
But people will own it.
That's a lie.
But these guys are at least a little more honest.
They say, you won't own anything.
And you'll be happy.
Why would I be happy?
And how do I get rid of my stuff now?
I've got lots of stuff.
You're going to just take it from me in the next nine years?
Is that how you, and I'm going to be happy about it?
No, no, no, no.
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And they're being honest, someone will own it.
It just won't be you.
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I don't.
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Man, the FBI and their race team, racing into action. My gosh. They're
are just solving crimes and protecting the American people like nobody's business.
Yes, they have finally tracked down the notorious Louise Lynn McNichol, or is it just Lois?
I think it may be Lois.
Lois McNacle.
Oh, man, when you hear the name Lois, don't you think just young activist, right?
Well, apparently Lois, the source.
69-year-old grandmother from Los Angeles was arrested yesterday and charged in connection to the January 6th breach of the U.S. Capitol.
Now, Lois, 69 years old, Lois and her gang, Adeline, Myrtle, and Clara are just radical insurrectionists.
And Beatrice, don't even get me started on Beatrice.
You know what I'm saying?
these people are out of control.
You know what they did, right?
But she,
Hmm, you know what they did?
What?
They,
Myrtle and the clan?
Yeah, Myrtle and Lois, both.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Entered the Capitol.
Yeah, but they did it, and Olive had the intent to walk around.
And when you've got Myrtle, Lois, Olive, Esther, Mabel.
Yeah.
Gertrude.
You know, Vera.
Gertrude.
Wait, wait, maybe we shouldn't walk around.
But Mertl said, no, we're walking around.
Yeah.
And we're going to do it for 10 minutes.
But Olive was like, my hip hurts.
And Mertl was saying to Adeline, Adeline, I know you just have all those gastronal and testinal problems.
But we got to walk.
We got to keep you walking.
And that says nothing about what Agnes was doing this entire time, by the way.
Well, and Agnes, don't let's not forget.
Agnes battles with irritable bowel syndrome.
Right.
And so she was in the bathroom for the entire time.
But inside the Capitol.
In the Capitol building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
Well, Hazel, Hazel was helping Myrtle because Myrtle has a touch of dementia.
And so Hazel is right there to say.
But this is a dangerous gang.
This is the second grandmother in this FBI roundup to stop these dangerous insurrectionists.
And when I think of all of the revolutions around the world that were started by unarmed grandmothers,
if I started down naming them, I wouldn't be finished until after July 4th.
Right?
24-7 I could just name
Myrtle
Ethel.
It was Adeline
that started, of course,
the revolution in France.
Why do you think they call it
Myrtle Beach?
How do you think it was taken over?
Amen,
brother.
A stormed the beaches.
A stormed the beaches.
A bunch of Murdows.
A stormed the beaches.
That's how that town started.
Not a lot of people know that.
Not a lot of people know that.
I couldn't sleep until
last night after they put her away after they put Lois away then I finally got my first goodnight
sleep since January 6th no she's out on the streets oh no she's out on the streets no yeah
she posted bond let me oh my yeah let me no listen it's worse than that oh no 49 year old unarmed
grandmother of five was presiding in Indiana I don't know where she was present but anyway
Uh, she was, uh, she was nailed for the, uh, for the, uh, the breach, the insurrection in the U.S.
Capitol.
And she was the, uh, second now to be sentenced.
Uh, and she, she could have faced time in prison.
But she said that she was really sorry about what she did, that she said, I, I didn't, I didn't know I was
breaking the law.
And gosh, I wouldn't want to be involved in it.
Now, this is what people like Clara say all the time.
Gosh, I certainly wouldn't have been in the Capitol doing something that I didn't think I was supposed to do.
These people make me sick.
So she said, quote, I would have never been there.
I had a clue that it was going to turn out the way it did because it was never my intent of being part of anything that's so disgraceful to the American people.
Wow.
Well, you would be, you would rest well like Stu and Pat if you didn't know that she's back on the streets today.
The attorney, no, the attorney had her read books like bury my heart at Wounded Knee.
She also had to watch Netflix mudbound and documentaries, slavery by another name, and Tulsa Burning, the 1921 race massacre.
and that was part of the deal that she could go free.
What?
What?
I hadn't read that part of it.
Is that true?
They had her watch.
The Tulsa Riot thing?
Barry my heart at Wounded Knee.
Okay.
Netflix mudbound, documentary slavery by another name and Tulsa Burning the 1921 race massacre.
What did you think of that have to do with anything?
What did that have to do with the January 6th incident?
Oh my gosh, Stu, I'm not going to be able to sleep at night knowing that Pat is free.
He's free to gather now with Olive and Hermina.
Oh, my gosh.
Well, we only brought him on the air today knowing that behind him, the forces are gathering to put him in prison.
He's not facing the door, so they can kind of walk in as a giant squad and arrest Pat and haul him off so that we can get good night's sleep.
because of his obvious support of the January 6th.
By the way, Pat, how many grandchildren do you have now?
How are they doing?
I have 10.
How are they doing?
I have 10.
You have 10 grandchildren.
Makes him a danger already.
The day he gets a walker, look out America.
Look out.
Now, I want to just share with you yesterday, the Secret Service had to arrest dozens.
of youth.
And there's no problem.
These guys, 500 people
blocked every entrance to the White House.
They demanded a fully funded civilian climate corps
be put back into the infrastructure bill.
They marched to the White House,
blocked the entrances, send a message to Biden
that no climate, no deal.
they want that human infrastructure in there,
the free college, free universal child care,
and AOC was there.
She was among the attendees telling the crowd
that politicians can't break this promise to us anymore.
They're setting up a world where they don't have to live in it.
That's why this matters.
That's why we fight.
And as a result of your hard work,
we have folks in the Senate.
We have folks in the House, not just me,
not just like they say a tiny group of the squad.
We have critical mass of people saying,
no climate, no deal.
So they were arrested.
Some of those were arrested.
But they were just given a glass of warm milk and sent home.
Their parents were called.
And they said, hey, we appreciate the activism that these kids are learning in school.
And we're proud of them.
So they'll probably be back.
And you know, it's weird.
This is a sorrow.
group. This is this is the sunrise movement. Uh, and the sunrise movement is a radical environmentalist
group funded by George Soros. Now, what did Ethel and Lois and Myrtle and Olive do, Pat? Well,
I mean, really, what did they do? What was the worst thing that you remember from, I mean,
besides, you know, people being shot, you know, not the people that were, were protesting.
Right.
Well, they were the one shot, but the ones doing the shooting were the Capitol Police.
One of the worst images that I saw was they took over Nancy Pelosi's office, put their feet up on the desk.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Really disgraceful.
Yeah.
Not an insurrection, but really disgraceful.
Yes.
You know, it's weird.
The sunrise movement, November 30th, 2018, 51 people.
took her office and camped out in her office and 51 people were arrested from the sunrise movement doing the same thing, which is weird that we haven't really heard of that.
Yeah, that didn't seem like a day that almost ended our democracy, did it?
No, nobody's saying that was it November, November of 2018?
our democracy nearly came to an end
and we don't even talk about it
because the exact same thing happened
on that day
in Nancy Pelosi's office
of course I don't know that anybody carried her podium
out of the house
we're exaggerating a little bit here
I don't think any of the Loises
did the really bad things that happened in the Capitol
I mean look there's video of people assaulting police officers
and that is never going to be okay
But there are a lot of people who, I mean, look, but why aren't they leading with this?
Why are they arresting and harassing the grandmothers?
Yeah.
So it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Look, if they, if this is all they have, right, if at the end of the day, they're not arresting the people.
And there were some.
It was a minority of the crowd, though.
And this is that always gets left out.
It's a small minority of the crowd who did the really bad things there.
There were people who just sort of wandered in.
Should have known better probably.
But generally, they were not.
insurrectionist.
It's the dumbest thing in the world
to refer to the overwhelming
majority of the people who were there
as insurrectionists.
It's insanity.
I think I talked to you, Glenn, about this.
It may have been off the air.
But I listened to an interview with a socialist,
a socialist writer,
and they were like,
you know, guys, we should probably
not call this an insurrection
because, you know,
the next time we do it,
they're going to call it an insurrection.
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there are a lot of people
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it does seem like
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It wasn't a punishment necessarily from the...
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So, I don't know about you, but it's Independence Week,
and we're celebrating our country's independence this weekend,
and I'd like to, well, there's two ways for me to feel optimistic.
One would be if someone would tell me, hey, you know, those UFOs?
Yeah, they've been watching us for a while, and they know about the politicians, too,
and they're just about to come down and lay the hammer on them and just say,
guys, you have it, you got it. You just needed these crumbums out of the way. That would give
me hope. I'd be optimistic, you know, if aliens were coming, even if they even said, hey, the aliens
are coming and they're going to enslave you and probably eat you as well. I'd be like,
am I right? Well, got to be better than what we got now, right? The other would be Jesus is coming
soon. Now, I'm putting my money in the Jesus bucket.
But the UFO thing?
I don't know.
Could happen as well unless you read that nine-page report,
which is very frustrating, at least to, you know, somebody like me who is looking for a little bit of optimism.
Sean Cahill, he is, he's one of the guys that was there on the Nimitz,
the Tick-Tac UFO or UAP.
He was one of the eyewitnesses.
He was a Navy chief master at arms, and he witnessed it.
And we're going to talk a little bit about what this report really means that came out.
And to the untrained eye really says nothing.
We talked to him in 60 seconds.
And Pat, you're staying, right?
Is Pat still in the studio?
Yeah.
Pat's staying because we, would you, well, I know you are.
I don't know where Stu is.
That's because Stu is a weirdo compared to the three, you know,
you even look at the three of us.
He's always the outsider.
Right.
Yeah.
Would you say we're all UFO totally, total freaks that we believe in extraterrestrial
and we kind of want to be alive when we discover that?
I know.
I do.
I don't know about Stu.
I do, too.
Stu?
I, no.
I don't know.
I'm interested in what the actual truth is.
You know, I wouldn't say I'm a UFO for now.
I don't sit around researching.
Well, no, I mean, I'm not wearing a, I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat because, I mean, tinfoil
obviously can be used to fry our brains.
It's a conductive material.
Why would you wear a tin foil?
So I'm not wearing the tinfoil hat.
Yes, thank you.
You know, I'm not one of those that, you know, go to the conventions and I'm like, I'm
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No.
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Chief Kahill was the chief law enforcement officer on board the USS Princeton in 2004 during the Nimitz
Strike Group Tick-TAC, UAP encounters.
A UAP is something that means UFO.
It's just the government's acronym for,
what we know to be UFOs.
There was a report that came out last week.
It was nine full pages.
My gosh, how long did it take them to put nine pages together?
But they say things that I find very, very puzzling.
If you read the report, don't worry, nine pages.
Who would read it?
It talks about if this is true, if these things,
when we come down to it, they're going to fall into, I think they said, one of five categories.
You know, it's going to be weather balloons.
It's going to be some sort of natural occurrence.
It might be, you know, one of our planes or objects.
It might be a foreign military's objects.
Or it'll go into a other bucket.
Well, it's kind of the other bucket that I'm kind of interested in.
And maybe Sean can give us some.
insight on this nine-page UAP report.
Welcome.
Welcome, Chief K. Hill.
How are you?
Good morning, Glenn.
It's good to be here.
Oh, you sound so serious.
Gosh.
We're going to, we're going to kind of go a little bit.
We're interested in UFOs, and I like to talk to people who are not interested in UFOs.
And so you might be the perfect guy because you talk to people who are UFO lovers.
They want it to be true.
I just want the truth.
So can you help us find that?
Well, I can say that for the people who are disappointed in the nine-page UAPTF report,
I would ask them to change their perception a little bit.
The first aspect of that report was that it was to go to Congress.
So the nine pages, while I don't want to make it sound like a gift from Congress,
I was quite happy that they immediately turned around and gave us the unclassified portion of it.
Now, like a lot of people, I'm most interested in what's in the classified annex,
and there have been a lot of rumors that are circulating around about it.
But there's a lot in that nine-page report that we can immediately dig into.
And it harkens back to 2004 when I was on board Princeton.
And it speaks a great deal.
If we focused just on that Tick-Tac case where I was present today,
we would show a perfect example of why the UAPTF was formed and the kind of data that we're looking to deliver to not only our leaders but to the American people is the real data.
So can you give us, can you take us back to when you were on the Princeton and tell us what happened that that whole experience?
Yes, in 2004 when I was stationed on board Princeton as the chief law enforcement officer, what we call the chief master at arms in the Navy.
I helped coordinate ships movements over a period of days with Senior Chief Kevin Day down in the Combat Information Center.
He had been picking up anomalous contacts on the Aegis radar system that were coming in at suborbital altitudes,
then going down to 80,000 feet.
And then what was spectacular was they were immediately translating down to sea level.
And then there were groups of them proceeding in a southerly direction against the wind.
This was so strange and worrisome to Kevin that he,
He began a series of diagnostics.
He and a radar tech named Kevin Borges both rebooted the system numerous times.
They double-checked everything, triple-checked.
And finally, Kevin went to our captain and said, sir, I'm pretty sure that we have real contacts.
These are not ghosts in the system based on the upgrade.
And because we were the area-
Okay.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me just make sure that I have this right.
So these objects were up almost to outer space, but in our...
atmosphere. They came down to 80,000 feet. I guess that's unusual because I mean how many things are up
suborbital. And then it went down to sea level. This is highly unusual. Well, it's highly
unusual and it's frankly impossible for most of our vehicles that aren't ballistic weapon systems.
because to de-orbit a craft requires a certain specific set of maneuvers to re-enter the atmosphere.
So not only were these appearing beyond where the Aegis radar system could pick them up,
they were in space.
They were then translating down to an altitude that even our best aircraft don't operate very well at.
Okay, so wait, wait.
So when we enter, we have to, we have that blackout period where, you know, we're, we're, we're,
really kind of on fire when we're coming back down in.
So they didn't enter the same way they didn't experience those things?
Well, at the time, we hadn't yet heard of what we're called the five observables that came
out of a program called ATIP that Luis Eligando ran.
But what we did witness was what was called hypersonic velocity and instantaneous acceleration.
Those are two of the five observables.
And there are two means of actions that we have, we have zero.
craft in our arsenal that can do that.
So there was nothing about this that matched anything that we understood.
And then to have them immediately go to sea level and then kind of make a lazy flight
southward, almost as if they were a flock of balloons, this is one of the things that gets
the debunkers into it, because they like to cherry pick and say that there were 20 or 30 different
things happening at once that conflated to confuse the military that there were UFOs.
but that's not the case.
Kevin sent a sortie of F-18s out to the area where the radar was picking them up.
We were the Air Defense Commander,
so our captain had that authority to order that,
and Commander David Fraver and his wingman pilot,
Lieutenant Commander Alex Dietrich made their way out to this area,
and they observed an area of water that was,
and around it were these tic-tac-shaped objects that were matte white in color,
approximately 30 feet long with no control surfaces, no means of propulsion, no markings whatsoever.
And they were darting around instantaneously like ping pong balls.
So wait, let me see if I understand this.
So there's some big object, the size of a 737, and these ping pong balls, these tic tacks,
are circling it?
So are they speculation here, part of propulsion or something, or are they separate aircraft?
or whatever it is.
I had to speculate, but if I were to speculate immediately, I think one of the feelings was that they were either observing this area of water or they were tending to something that was in the water.
I can say that I've participated in follow-on investigations with Lou Elizondo down in Mexico and Ensonada and off the Guadalupe Island, where the Tic Tacs were witnessed going into the water.
and the folks we spoke to down there see these all the time
it's a very interesting situation down there
but what we encountered that week was unlike anything we had ever seen before
towards the end of the exercise after the night that the pilots returned with
the gun camera footage before we had seen it on board Princeton
I was out on the port side bridge wing with the port watch
or excuse you have a port watch.
At approximately 45 degrees up in the sky at 2,000 feet off the port bow,
I saw five to seven lights in a completely clearing cloudless sky.
It was about 10 o'clock at night.
And these five to seven lights all moved towards the center of the circle of the center
of their formation that they were in and each instantaneously disappeared.
I say that they blinked out, but they didn't show any kind of movement or propulsion.
This action completely matched what we were seeing on radar and completely matched what the pilots returned with on the gun camera footage.
The next morning when myself and the other chief petty officers and the chiefs and us witnessed that video, we were astonished.
We knew that we had the chain of emails that came with it where the operations officers on the ships were immediately debunking everything.
We know what birds look like at sea.
We know what balloons look like.
We know what other aircraft look like.
We know what the lighting configurations are.
These things did stuff that we had the electoral opt testimony and the infrared data to tell us about it, not to mention the radar data.
Okay.
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Now we go, 10 seconds, station ID. The man we're talking to his chief,
Cahill. He served the United States Navy from 1995 to 2015. He was entrusted with critical
missions spanning anti-terrorism, anti-piracy, interrogation, and investigations.
He was on the USS Princeton and one of the many eyewitnesses to a series of what they call UAP UFO encounters.
Today he works closely with former U.S. government leadership and UAP-related program managers.
So, Chief, I want to make sure that I understand when you were out on the deck and you were looking up at the night sky about 10 o'clock at night, you see these lights.
And when you say they went out or they blinked out,
what you're actually saying is that they started to move away at such a speed they were just gone.
Is that right?
That's what we speculate.
And if we had the radar data to show that moment in time, I believe that that's what the radar data would show.
Unfortunately, this is where the water gets muddy.
That evening, it's, it's.
reported that plane-closed officers arrived on board Nimitz and arrived on board Princeton and confiscated
the radar data. As of right now, I don't know who that was. It still remains to be seen who has
that data, where it ended up in the system, who it was that had the authority to come out and
confiscate that data. A lot of people have asked me, as the chief master at arms, wouldn't you have been
aware of who was coming and going from the ship? And unfortunately, no, I wasn't the
the bag checker or security guy for the oncoming helicopters that was handled, you know, via
our system of logistics that moves between our ships. So I wouldn't have had to be told about that.
So how did the chain of command handle all of this? Were they surprised, were they freaked out?
Did they report it to the Pentagon? I mean, what happens when you see something like this?
Well, during the exercise, it was relatively quiet. There were a handful.
Kevin and I, our senior chief of day and I, were communicating via telephone line between the bridge and the combat information center.
We didn't know what we were dealing with.
So rather than alarm people to rumors of UFOs, et cetera, we kept it professional.
We had an exercise going on.
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you can imagine that the ship was a very professional atmosphere.
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and intelligence briefing that evening where I was asked for the first time to post up at the door.
Just in case anyone coming in had a lapsed security clearance and, you know, if someone wanted to pull rank on a young man at the door or something,
they asked me to make sure that he didn't have a hard time. We turned a couple of people away whose
clearance had lapsed. But then when we got into our intelligence briefing, there was...
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We are talking to retired U.S. Navy Chief Masters at Arms, Sean Cahill.
he was part of the Nimitz Tick-Tack UAP eyewitnesses.
He was there, and he just described going in for a briefing,
and he had to post somebody at the door to make sure that nobody was trying to pull rank
to get into this top secret meeting.
And when you guys are meeting, what happens in that room?
What do you think you have just witness?
What conclusions do you draw?
What do you do?
Well, it was our normal evening intelligence briefing and an operations briefing, and we really
didn't touch on the subject.
There was a small joke made at the beginning of the PowerPoint presentation.
Remember, this is an 04, so it was pretty primitive.
But a little Mars attacks-type style alien icon shot across the screen with some spooky
music, and the half of us in the room who knew what was going on had a little laugh, and then
took a second to explain it to the remaining chiefs and officers and say,
in the room before the captain just said, well, we had a lot of fun this week.
Fund's over.
Let's get back to work.
And that was it.
But then when did somebody come in and fly and take all of the video or all of the confidential
readings that you guys took?
When did that happen?
We didn't learn about that publicly until 2017.
The personnel that were involved in the exchange of those radar tapes to include
Petty Officer Gary Borges and probably our captain at the time, they signed non-disclosure agreements
and were told not to make that data public. So we didn't find that out until 2017 when Luis
Elizondo resigned in protest from the program that sprang up after that sighting, the advanced
aerospace threat identification program at the Pentagon. That was when we really found out that
Tick-Tac was an esoteric event, that this was something exotic and not within our arsenal.
And we found out recently with the report, the report confirms that, that Tick-Tac and these other
sightings that fall into 144 sightings, of which only one was determined to be a weather
balloon, and of those, a very large portion, were determined to show the five observables or
what we call exotic technology.
So I've spoken to Louise Elizondo.
I find him extraordinarily credible.
He was the former director of advanced aerospace threat identification program.
He was also the right-hand man to Petraeus.
And from what I understand, Petraeus said, you know, Luis, what do you think about of UFOs?
And he said, quite frankly, sir, I don't think of UFOs.
And Petraeus said, perfect.
That's exactly who I want to lead this.
He didn't think about it.
He didn't have any, you know, whole.
horse in the game, if you will. He just was looking for the truth. And what he told us was this was
happening a lot and, in fact, is still going on. And he said we have observations of them, you know,
tracking our bases and even our nuclear launch sites, et cetera, et cetera. Did any of this,
why was none of this in that report? Well, I think a lot of people are,
wanted everything in that report.
They were only given 180 days.
They were given a very vague scope to basically return all the data.
It was almost an impossible mission to complete in 180 days.
The fact that they were smart enough to put a fence around it
and try to make sense of a certain period of time or a certain number of cases
made a lot of sense to me.
But what we have fought from day one and what we fought back in 2004 on board the Princeton
when we were trying to discuss this in a rational manner,
is a stigma that surrounds the subject that has gone on for 70 years of uphology and of amateur study,
and of course obfuscation by the government, by stove piping, by special access programs.
The truth of whatever UAP clause in history saying, this is real, did show us the annexes,
the deputy sectioned in two weeks of sightings, and there's a lot of talk about a
establishing a permanent entity that will act as a clearinghouse with the past data and future data to ensure that the American people and then the world get a good understanding of what this is without revealing our weapon systems and electrical optical systems that keep.
So Louise told me that, you know, we're tracking them and they're doing things that there is no way a country has developed this kind of technology because,
it couldn't be isolated. It's so far ahead of its time that it would affect other things in the
society. So we've ruled out, I know that we've ruled out in this report that it is, you know,
American technology. Do you believe that, that this is not some secret thing that we've got
going on? I'm pretty pragmatic when it comes to that. I think most of us would look at this and say,
if it has been studied for 70 years, of course some aspect of the government or military
is probably doing some kind of testing to understand this and probably trying to mimic the technology.
But I think if we look at popular science and physics and look at our experts,
we realize that all of them are scratching their heads as to how this technology operates the way it does.
So if someone here that pays taxes and has an email address has leapfrogged the rest of us
in understanding and production and technology, I would be completely astounded to find out this was us or a near peer.
Now, do we have some aspects of the technology?
It wouldn't surprise me.
But not all of it.
I don't believe that for a moment.
Okay.
So did this report, because you said, look at this, you should look at it differently.
What were the things in there that gave you hope that, you know, this was just,
not just more of the,
oh, it's crazy people in tinfoil
hats kind of stuff.
What makes you feel good about this report?
I've been lucky enough for the past
three years to have studied
this entire subject. Basically, when I
met Luis Elizondo, and when he
interviewed me for a program for the History Channel,
when we got our mics off, I asked
Lou, I said, if you're not a BSer,
if you're not another one of those folks
coming out trying to make a buck on some
nonsense, I said, I'll put my boots back on for you
and I'll go to work with you to figure this out.
He made it pretty clear to me over the last three years how much I could trust him and how loyal he is to the American people.
We have so much to learn about this.
And before Friday, it was absolute nonsense.
It was completely denied as even being a phenomenon.
The programs were being denied by the DOD.
The public affairs officer of the DOD, whether she was directed or whether it was her personal inclination to do so, has smeared Luis in the
public eye. They lied about him.
So there's something about this subject
that really needs a reckoning.
It needs to be dragged out into the daylight
and it needs to be shown to all of us.
I'm confused at how we keep
it nonpartisan. That's
still a struggle to me to keep it out in the open
for all of us and make sure that no one
grabs onto this and tries to own it. I think that would
be very dangerous.
How do you see that?
I mean, I think this is a
this is so far beyond
politics. This is about human. This is the greatest possible discovery of all time. If any of this
is confirmed to be otherworldly, this affects everyone from outer Mongolia to, you know,
upstate New York. Everybody is, it should be on the same page on this one. I'm very happy to
hear you say that because it's it's the only way that we're going to figure this out is with
seven billion perspectives being shared with each other because if this was an easy subject,
we'd already have these answers. There wouldn't be 70 years of confusion and obfuscation,
requiring a task force and an inspector general investigation and requiring someone like
Lou to give up his pension to resign and protest. None of these things should we now have,
we have somewhere to go now.
So is one of the reasons why we are not being let in on this?
Is it possible that it works to our advantage?
Let's say we know it's not us, but we're not sure what it is.
We don't want to come out and clearly say we don't know what it is,
or we definitely know it's not us because we,
would make us, if the Chinese are thinking that could be them, then we're put into a good
strategic situation. Same thing with the Chinese or anybody else. Why deny and just and come out and
say, guys, that's not us. Let's share information. Because as long as there's that seed of doubt,
it strengthens the posture of each side. Does that make sense to you? It makes
You know what I'm saying?
I think what's unfortunate right now is we live in such a polarized world where any of us in this conversation can immediately point out who the adversaries we might be talking about are.
And so we have some bridges to build here.
If we could form an international entity that had oversight over this, there's got to be some level that we can all talk to each other about this.
There's got to be some level where we can recognize the importance of this.
And if this is technology, the fact that if it's not communicating,
directly with us. Well, we certainly want to
gain this level of technology. And I would
assume that we would want to maintain our maturity as we go
along with it and not try to dominate each other.
That's what frightens me. I think it frightens a lot of people. I think a lot of
people are very quick to hope this is aliens because we
understand what humans do already. And a lot of people are gambling that
aliens might have a better take on it. It's a big universe
out there.
And like most folks, I don't claim to have met anyone from out there that's told me what
it's really like.
So I don't know if they even have a conception of good and bad.
So I think we have a lot to learn together as a species about this subject and we're going
to have to do it together.
Are you hearing from any other countries that you know of?
Is anyone even obliquely reported the same kind of things?
Because talking to Louise, it sounds like, in fact, I talked to somebody else that said we are tracking these for weeks at a time.
It's not like these are just, you know, oh, I think I saw that.
No, we're tracking them for weeks at a time.
So is any other country reporting this at all?
Such a good question, because this is a worldwide phenomenon.
There are many other countries that have acknowledged programs, countries like France,
Brazil, Russia. But the problem is, is that question of why no one else takes the lead. And why does
Russia, this is my opinion based on my studies, but Russia is very interested in muddying the
waters with this subject. It's been around for 70 years. It's been stigmatized and played with
by everybody. So to finally come to the table and do something about it together would be the
right answer. But I'm also concerned this is this is a tool for chaos if used by the wrong people.
Well, thanks for brightening all of our days with the ending with that. I, I can't thank you enough,
Sean, for coming on and talking about this. I know this is a difficult subject because people think
it's crazy. And what I think is crazy is the fact that more people aren't aware of the difference
between, you know, Area 51 talk and this. Things have changed.
changed in the last couple of years, and the government is now admitting things that they'd
never admitted before, and it is, it's something that every American, every being on earth
should be looking at and discussing openly right now and not getting into conspiratorial games,
but just say, look, something is happening, and what is it, and how are we going to deal with it?
And I thank you for being a logical messenger. Thank you so much.
you for having me going.
Sean Cahill.
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Tonight, you'll see the full effect.
So on Monday night, Tucker Carlson said that the N.
A whistleblower tipped him off that the NSA is reading his emails to try to figure out where he's going next, what's going to be happening.
People immediately started, you know, saying that he wears a tinfoil hat.
I don't know how you don't have the default position that, of course, the United States government is doing that.
Of course they are.
I mean, sure.
They weren't monitoring and eavesdropping on Donald Trump in his campaign.
Remember that?
No, no, no, we're not.
Then we found out, yes, you are.
Well, we did it under a FISA court.
Yeah, but the FBI had somebody in their midst that knowingly changed that evidence
from a positive to a negative.
So you lied to the FISA court about it.
And then you did nothing to this guy.
Oh, you gave him a suspension.
Oh, well, that's sure going to help strengthen that First Amendment and the right to privacy.
Oh, my gosh.
Now the NSA has responded.
I have the response to Tucker from Monday night from the NSA.
And I have somebody who I think knows a thing or two about this.
Cheryl Ackison.
She joins us in 60 seconds.
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We have the audio of Tucker.
So on Monday night, here's
what Tucker Carlson said on his
program.
But it's not just political protesters
the government is spying on. Yesterday we heard
from a whistleblower within the U.S. government
who reached out to warn us at the
NSA, the National Security Agency,
is monitoring our electronic
communications and is planning to leak them
in an attempt to take this show off the air.
Now, that's a shocking
claim, and ordinarily we'd be skeptical of it,
illegal for the NSA to spy on American citizens. It's a crime. It's not a third world country.
Things like that should not happen in America. But unfortunately, they do happen. And in this case,
they did happen. The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about
a story that we are working on that can have only come directly from my texts and emails.
There's no other possible source for that information, period. The NSA captured that information without our
knowledge and did it for political reasons. The Biden administration is spying on us. We have
confirmed that. This morning we filed a FOIA request, a Freedom of Information Act request,
asking for all information that the NSA and other agencies have gathered about this show.
We did it mostly as a formality. We've also contacted the press office at both NSA and the FBI.
We don't expect to hear much back. That's the way that usually goes. Only Congress can force transparency
on the intelligence agencies, and they should do that immediately.
Spying on opposition journalists is incompatible with democracy.
If they are doing it to us, and again, they are definitely doing it to us.
They are almost certainly doing it to others.
This is scary, and we need to stop it right away.
Now, the NSA has responded on June 28, 2021.
Tucker Carlson alleged the National Security Agency has been monitoring our electrical
communication and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.
This allegation is untrue.
Now listen to this.
Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never
had any plans to try to take his program off the air.
NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.
We target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the
United States.
with limited exceptions, e.g. an emergency. NSA may not target a U.S. citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes targeting.
Somebody who knows an awful lot about this is Cheryl Atkinson, who has been spied on herself by the United States government, investigative reporter, and host a full measure with Cheryl Atkinson and also the author of Slanted.
Hi, Cheryl. How are you?
Hey, Glenn. How are you?
I'm good. I'm good.
I don't know how people come to this leaning toward the NSA.
I mean, everything that has happened recently, and quite honestly, if you want to be a free people,
you shouldn't give the benefit of the doubt right away to the government on something like this.
What do you think is happening?
I've tracked the proven instances.
These are just the ones that have been reported publicly through documentation,
you know, pre, actually for decades, but starting in the 2009 time period,
we know the government was proven to have spied on members of Congress, their staff,
journalists.
We know that intelligence officials gave false information on these questions when they testified to Congress.
So again, like you say, the default position should be,
we know this is being done and has been done.
And if they can prove otherwise or are up front and forthright with their information,
perhaps we could listen to that, but they never are.
Yeah.
We know that they have the ability to capture all communications in the United States.
We know that they do capture all communications,
but they say it's just on the meta level.
however, if you're wanting to target somebody, it's not that hard to do it.
And the NSA says, unless it's an emergency, well, if the United States government is convinced that the largest insurrection ever to happen since the Civil War was January 6th, and that came from Trump supporters.
And Trump supporters watch and listen to me, Tucker Carlson, you, well, then doesn't that qualify?
in some twisted way to a dirty government that, yeah, they have the right to spy or to read
emails and texts?
Excuse me, I'm sneezing.
Of course they do.
You know, they will find a way to justify whether they believe it or don't believe it.
They can find a way to put down on paper the necessity at least make the argument that this
is something that they must do and they're authorized to do for national security.
But because it's done in secret and through the FISA Corps.
where we usually never know what the justification is that's presented and we're never meant to know,
we can't say whether they did it properly. We can't tell whether they manufactured information
like they did against Carter Page, the Trump associate to spy on him. But I would say, Glenn,
you know, I've been talking about this for years since I got the forensic proof that it happened to
me without them ever being stopped and nobody being held accountable, of course we can
expect more of the same. There's been no change, no deviation from the path of illegally and improperly
spying on people. And in my case, you know, I learned through courts, I still have a case pending,
but through a lot of court action over the years, I learned that government officials enjoy
a great deal of immunity from their crimes or acts that they commit or oversee while in office.
Congress would have to change the law to actually hold them accountable for some of these
surveillance abuses. And none of that's been done.
It is truly terrifying when you think and read, excuse me, what the president,
the White House at whitehouse.gov has just put out on the way that they're going to attack
domestic terror. They openly say they're going to be working with high tech to find those
people who are insurrectionists, extremists, but also all those that they're, that they're
they may have infected or affected and who the leaders are. Well, all you have to do is define
things a little differently than the average American, which we're learning new definitions
of everything right now. So it's really more likely than possible. When you see that,
and nobody is reacting, how do we save freedom?
Well, it's a good question, and that's the problem with this crisis and confidence that's been created in our institutions and our law enforcement and our intelligence agencies.
So many people think there are double standards, political motivations that, you know, it would be one thing if a trusted agency announced they were legitimately looking at these things.
But we see through recent efforts and history and contexts that too often they are not and that they're violating laws and policies to do the things that they're doing.
there's this great sense of this feeling of hopelessness and even chaos, I think, among those
who would like to believe that there's a sense of law and fairness and that our intelligence
community and law enforcement officials are going to be doing things fairly. But I think
a lot of people know that that's not been the case. You have, you know, we've had Soros's
people and everybody else. I mean, I've people going through my garbage, et cetera, et cetera.
and they have done a good job of smearing me.
Can you describe to the American people the difference between what's happened to me
and then what's happened to you or could happen to Tucker if the United States government is doing it?
Well, the United States government, as you know, has every tool at their disposal,
every advanced form of technology, access through the telephone companies,
which they have been requiring to cooperate with them since prior to 2001
on collecting different kinds of surveillance.
I did a story that surprised me at the time on the former head of Quest,
which is a phone company back in the day that he said that they were all,
all these phone companies already had dark contracts prior to 2001
from our intelligence agency worth hundreds of millions of dollars to collect information.
And he said that in 2001, prior to the terrorist attacks, by the way,
he was brought into a skiff because they would have these meetings, a skiff of secure facility.
He would have meetings with intelligence officials.
And for the first time, they asked them to do something.
He said on U.S. soil, collecting customer information for them, that he said was clearly unconstitutional and illegal.
This is, again, 2001 prior to the 9-11 attacks.
And when he refused to do it, the other phone companies, he said, went along.
Not only did they cancel their super valuable dark contracts with the company,
suddenly he found himself charged by the federal government with insider trading, and he went to prison for a time.
So I think this is a really dangerous thing.
The government has these tools and this potential, I would call a blackmail material at their disposal.
And then I would also point out to your listeners, Glenn, it's not just one operation, somebody that goes through an NSA database improperly or FBI agents that turn in false information for a wiretap.
There are many operations we now know about, including in my case, some of the spying that was done on me was done through a rogue team out of the Baltimore U.S. Attorney's Office under Rod Rosenstein.
And we know that from a former federal agent involved as well as the forensics.
So there's all kinds of teams, dart groups, rogue operations that could be doing different aspects of this kind of spying and all connected to the government.
Give me some hope.
What is being done to, I mean, I've had, I've had congressmen and senators come to me and say that they have been, they've received veiled threats from the intelligence community.
When they're in small groups, people have come in and said, we have some information that some of your colleagues, and you may be in this room,
are working with foreign governments, and we just want you to know for your protection.
We are monitoring things, but just know that we're on it.
And they received that as a threat.
One of them said, are you telling us you're monitoring all of our communications?
And the response was, I'm not at liberty to say one way or another.
and they took that as a threat, whether they're following through with that or not.
They were members of Congress that truly believe that they are being watched and listened to.
And when you have that kind of a system against you, you have no chance of doing the right thing, you know, in Congress and standing for the people.
You don't stand a chance.
Well, let me tell you a couple of incidents that have been documented.
We know that in 2009 that the Intel community, the NSA, secretly recorded and listened in on Democrat Congresswoman Jane Harmon because somebody ultimately leaked her name to the press as well as some recordings.
Same thing happened to Dennis Kucinich, a congressman, another Democrat.
This happens to both parties.
It's not something that's isolated to one over time.
I mean, it's a fact.
And then I was told some years back by a staffer for a top member of the Senate, kind of.
similar to what you're saying, that they were called and these staffers by Intel officials and told,
we're going to be looking at your phone records. Again, this is something people kind of accept now in a way,
I think, which they shouldn't. This is stunning that our intelligence agencies would be listening in on members of Congress and their staff.
This is something that should never happen. And the staffer told me they were just stunned to be told that this was going to happen.
And I said, well, did anybody in the meeting?
And maybe congressional staffers speak up and tell these intelligence people not to do it.
And he said, no.
And I said, why not?
He said, we were afraid we would look guilty of something if we did.
Because supposedly the intelligence officials were looking for leaks to the press or something.
So nobody wanted to say no for fear of looking guilty.
And this was years ago.
I think they've been doing that ever since and we're probably doing that prior to that.
and collecting all kinds of information that, yes, could conceivably be used against members of Congress and their staff.
Cheryl Atkinson, if you have not seen her investigative work recently, make sure you follow full measure.
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Cheryl Atkinson. Thank you so much, Cheryl. Appreciate it. God bless.
Thanks.
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So what do you think of this NSA stuff, Stu, with Tucker Carlson?
I think I'm sort of with you in that we're probably on the same story arc here.
And that if you would have asked me this 15 years ago, I would have thought he was just making it up or that he was hyper paranoid.
Right.
Going through, you know, not only, you know, the stuff that we've.
gone through over the past, you know, a couple decades now. But also in, you know, when you look at
the Snowden stuff, when you look at all of these leaks that have come out, they have so much
more access to your information than we ever would have imagined. Even if they're not specifically
targeting Tucker Carlson in the way that he's alleging, they scoop up so much information that
they surely have access to it. And it only takes one rogue employee to, to, to, to,
to go through that and try to maximize the political impact.
Yeah, it may not have come from the NSA top,
but a rogue employee or a group of people are like,
we got to stop this guy.
I believe that absolutely could happen and is happening,
and there's a chance it is happening from the top.
I mean, you know, we now find out that Julian Assange,
one of the witnesses lied for the FBI.
What's next?
You know, what won't,
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There's also another show.
Elijah is doing a show.
And is that posted yet?
Is that up?
With Alex Jones.
I almost said Alex Trebek.
Very different people.
It's happening on this Sunday?
Is that right?
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
He went to Alex Jones studio and had a conversation with him.
Well, I'm not a fan of Alex Jones.
He's not really a fan of mine.
But the Blaze believes that you should hear a diverse range of voices.
And so Elijah went out and interviewed Alex Jones.
And apparently I came up in the conversation.
Is that right, Stu?
I guess so, yes, which is,
neither of us have heard the full clip.
So I don't know what this is about,
but listen to this.
You know,
I would love nothing more than to see Glenn Beck,
who does a great job,
literally fully energized with hatred for the New World Order,
endowed with the power to crush Satan.
And I'm ready to invoke,
I'm ready to bring him into the club
and give him lightning from Zeus.
If you really wanted to give Glenn Beck
and, like,
Like Unicron gives, gives Megatron the power to become Galvatron.
I am ready to literally give Glenn Beck a new body and troops to command.
I am so confused.
I'm used to,
I'm used to recording that of our broom closet.
This set is so complex.
I don't know what to do.
I'm ready to give Glenn Beck a new body and troops to command.
I don't even know.
I don't know what any of that means.
I don't know what.
Well, I am looking for a new body, but, you know, I'm hoping that the magic bill will come and make me in shape because I refuse to do exercise or eat right.
So, but I don't think Alex is the guy to give me the new body.
Yeah, I don't know.
And the troops, I'm not really looking for the troops.
I'm not really one to command troops.
It's not a good idea.
I feel like if there was a body switch movie made me with you and Alex Jones, it would be pretty uneventful.
I just be like, yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of look the same.
I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for that, Stu.
I appreciate it.
May I ask, speaking of another Jones,
may I ask,
Stu,
did the Me Too movement get all the bad guys?
I mean,
I think we've gotten to the point
where all of the bad guys
must be out now.
Unless you happen to be on the left.
Then there's plenty of them left.
But they did not necessarily.
Well, are there plenty of them?
Because they're now,
looking at Indiana Jones, a fictional character in a fictional movie that, I guess, through the fiction,
you know, first made it with, what was her name? Karen Allen, what was her name in the, in the first movie?
Anyway, remember she's there and she's drinking the Mongols or whoever, you know, drinking them under the table?
and she says
Oh, and he walks in
Indiana Jones, you hurt me
You took my childhood
You knew you were doing wrong
And yet you did it
Yeah, we have the clip here
We have the clip of this
Oh we do?
Oh, play it, play it
Indiana Jones
Always knew someday you'd come walking back
Through my door
I never doubted that
Something made it inevitable
So what are you doing here in Nepal
I need one of the pieces
is your father collective.
I learned to hate you in the last 10 years.
To hurt you.
I was a child.
I was in love.
He was wrong and you knew it.
You knew what you were doing.
Now I do.
This is my place.
Get out.
Mohan.
Temegro.
Bolian.
I did what I did.
You don't have to be happy about it,
but maybe we can help each other out now.
Wait.
Wait a minute.
What happened?
Wait.
Well, Karen Allen has come out.
and she said that she wasn't pedophilia, but she was 16 as Marion, not as Karen,
but as Marion, she was 16 and Indiana Jones was 26, and we all know that's wrong.
And yet it was in the movie anyway.
And it shows how sexist we still are, because nobody said, wait a man.
in it.
Yeah.
How old was she?
And by the way, she seems to be cool about the, like, she's like, it wasn't pedophilia.
She's, there's a controversy brewing about the fact that this fictional character was too
young for whatever interaction Indy had with her back in the day.
And she's saying, like, look, that's a dumb way to look at this.
I mean, she does seem to be appropriately blowing it off.
But it is an actual controversy online that this is, this was, this was, this.
should not have been in there. Among people
among people whose skin
is probably being just
becoming one with their couch.
You know what I mean? Those people are probably
upset. I mean, they have nothing
else to do, but look at a fictional
character. By the way, it was said in the
1930s. In the 1930s, it was not
unusual for kids
to get married and older
guys to marry kids. It wasn't
unusual back in the 1930s.
Unless you're looking at
a fictional 1930s where that wasn't happening.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I will say this.
I will say this about this controversy.
I never noticed it watching the movie.
I never put together that he was saying essentially that they were together when she was very
young.
Like it was just like a, you know, she's, it was, it didn't seem to be inappropriate at all.
However, Glead, there's no way they make that movie with that line in it today.
there's no there absolutely no chance that no you know according to the transcripts on when they
were writing it um george lucas said uh let's see lawrence casden one of the writers said i'd like it
if they already had a relationship at one point because then you don't have to build it lucas said
i was thinking this old guy could have been uh it could have been his mentor he would have known
this little girl when she was just a kid had an affair maybe when she was 11 just george
Lucas, cousin said, and he was 42?
Lucas said, well, he hasn't seen her in 12 years.
Now she's 22.
And it's a real strange relationship.
Spielberg pipes in.
She'd better be older than 22.
Lucas, okay, okay, he's 35.
And he knew her 10 years ago when he was 25 and she was 12.
I don't know what's going on with Lucas.
Lucas says, it'd be amusing to make her slightly younger at the time.
Spielberg says, and promiscuous, she came on to him.
Lucas, okay, how about 15?
That's right on the edge.
I mean, what is happening here?
The villain here is Lucas.
How about we make her eight?
And he was 71.
Who funded this money?
Jeffrey Epstein?
I don't understand.
It's curse.
It's crazy.
There's something to this, though, in that, like, the standards have changed, right?
Where, like, you go back to the 80s, and there's just multiple songs about hooking up with
17-year-olds that were popular.
Like, it was just the thing that band sang about.
You're beautiful and your mind.
Ringo Straw.
Yeah, Ringo Starr.
She's only 17 by Winger.
Stray Cats did, she's sexy.
and she's 17?
Like, this was a thing.
Can I,
can I just remind you that
Jerry Lee Lewis had
his career destroyed? Not
because he, he married somebody
who I think was 14 or 15,
but
because she was also
his first cousin.
That's the thing that we don't marry
cousins here. It wasn't that
you're an old man.
She's like 12.
What are you doing?
No, no, no.
It was that they were cousins.
I mean, it seems like both are good reasons not to marry someone.
It's just a general rule of thumb, I suppose.
Yeah.
Well, I think this is the death now of the Me Too movement.
I think we've caught everybody.
Now we're down to fictional characters.
We've caught everybody.
Once you get to fictional characters who were actually somewhat within the standards of
the 1930s, you're probably past the utility of your movement.
I think so.
By the way, the response from the Federalist that came out yesterday that wrote to the NFL,
Dear NFL, if football is queer, why haven't you signed Megan Rapino?
I think is the best response I've read to the NFL.
Don't tempt football is queer.
Please don't tempt them.
Oh, please do it.
Please do it.
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for the next few days and into next week.
I guess we couldn't find anybody good to fill in,
so Stu and Pat will be filling in for me.
Wow, thank you for that vote of confidence, Glenn.
I appreciate it.
Well, you know, it's just the way I roll.
So good luck and don't hold it against me.
I mean, good.
And I can't keep doing this every day.
Somebody with much less talent has to come in from time to time.
Yes, that's very true.
true. So you have a vacation coming up, and part of this vacation, are you doing the car show thing on the vacation?
I saw you post a picture on Instagram. Yeah, there's this. Yeah, it's the car that I hope will, you know, get me and some of my conservative friends over a border someday if we have to.
It's, I'm doing this car show because my son and I, we want to start doing, you know, car shows. And I got this, this, this.
car that my father and I made a model of when I was probably seven years old. And I've always thought
this is just a beautiful car. It's a race car from the 1930s, and it's a boat tail. It's just, it's
beautiful. And I called Jay Leno and got his advice, and I was like, Jay, what do you think? You know,
I'm not you. I can't make, I don't have a team of people that can fix it. And he's like,
well, let me start here.
Are you going to drive it or are you going to sit it in a garage?
And I'm like, no, I want to drive it.
And he's like, okay, will you share it or are you going to keep it to yourself?
And I'm like, no, I mean, are you going to come and get me and beat me up if I, you know,
is he going to be a hospital driver?
What is he, what is he think you're going to do with it?
I know.
No, he just believes that old cars should be driven and old cars should be shared because
are so cool. And so I'm thrilled that I can share this. Otherwise, Jay Leno will come and hurt me, I think.
But it is, it's where I'm going to be in Logan, Utah, this weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday at the Cash Valley.
The Cash Valley Cruise Inn. There's like 17,000 people come to it and they, you know, people have their
cars and all kinds of different cars. And I'm really excited. I love, Rave and I have gone to car show.
And I love the fact that everybody is equal and everybody is just fascinated with cars.
Some people know a lot about them.
Some people know nothing.
And yet there's no class divisions.
They were not talking politics.
Nothing.
It's just about the cars.
Now, I've seen the picture of your car.
When you say everyone's equal, everyone has one of those?
Because they look, that looks to be quite a rare and impressive automobile.
I'm surprised to hear that everyone's.
there has one.
I didn't say everyone would have the same.
Well, some might have a car that is
more equal than others, animal farm.
No, I mean, I'm fortunate.
This is the only one of these cars
in the Western Hemisphere. There's only two
of them in existence.
And it is,
it's amazing.
But I honestly, I go up to other cars where people have
taken, this was a barn find.
Same thing with their
car. You got an old Mustang. I'm in love with it. An old Cadillac that you read done. I'm in love with it.
That's what I mean. We're all just, we're car freaks. And I blame Jay Leno, honey. For all the
money we're spending, I blame Jay Leno.
