The Glenn Beck Program - NBC Leaves Out CRITICAL Context in Latest Interview with Trump | Guests: Sen. Rand Paul & Randy Clark | 12/9/24

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Glenn and Stu blast New York prosecutor Alvin Bragg for attempting to force a conviction out of Daniel Penny's jury. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) joins to discuss Trump’s upcoming government waste program and his confidence that it will lead to a more efficient government. San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond joins to discuss how Democrats in his county are doubling down on sanctuary city protections for illegal immigrants. Border Patrol retiree and Breitbart News reporter Randy Clark joins to share what he’s seeing down at the border and how it may all change when President-elect Donald Trump is sworn in. Trump went on MSNBC’s "Meet The Press" over the weekend, but why should Trump give the mainstream media any sort of attention? Stu fact-checks a recent viral moment from that interview regarding birthright citizenship. In breaking news, Daniel Penny is found not guilty on the secondary charge of criminally negligent homicide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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going on with Daniel Penny in New York City. Again, they are just changing the law in New York. Honestly, if you live in New York, you should reconsider because there is no such thing as justice. There's no such thing as a law that's written down and they follow it. I'll explain in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about relief factor. You ever look at Joe Biden when he's on TV and think, man, I bet that guy sleeps like a baby. Corrupt, morally bankrupt, dishonest, stupid baby.

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If you've been following the Daniel Penny trial, now Daniel Penny is the guy who was on the subway, did absolutely the right thing by standing up when this guy who was, he's psychotic, he was high on crack or something. I mean, I don't know what the other options are besides crack, but he was high on something. And he was threatening everybody on the subway and said, I'm going to kill you all.

I'm going to kill you all. Well, there was this Marine sitting there and nobody got up and did anything because everybody's afraid. So do you remember what was the guy's name? I said it just last week or so. The guy that was on the plane that was going to the Pentagon and they crashed, not Pentagon, the Capitol, and they crashed in Pennsylvania. Beeman, Todd, Todd, Todd, Tom, Tom, Beamer.

Peter, Tom Beamer. Todd Beamer stood up and said, let's go. And he got everybody to do it, right? We all thought that was a hero. Well, now in New York, that's not a hero. This guy is a Marine, knew how he could choke. the guy out without killing him. But he was high on crack or whatever and he choked him out and he died. Well, everybody was happy that he did it. Not that he died, but everybody was happy that he took control

of the situation and stopped this guy because everyone on the train was afraid for their life. So they interview him. He's saying to the police, I didn't mean to hurt him. He doesn't know he's dead at the time. You know, I just wanted to choke him out. I really hope that, you know, everything's okay, but, you know, somebody had to stand up and do something. The guy is clearly a hero. Well, not in New York, because common sense doesn't exist in New York. And so they decide to try him. Well, now they're in the trial, and here's how it works. First, they charged him with two things. And if you have a hung jury on either one of those, it's a mistrial. So they charge me with just being too good looking

and a second count of just being too smart. If the jury is like, I don't know, 11 of us say, nope. And one is like, no, he's really good looking, I think. My wife, for being part of the jury pool. But it's a hung jury, okay? And you can't go to the second count if you're hung on the first. that's the law.

Well, Maxwell Wiley, who is the, quote, justice, handed the prosecution a gift. It was a Christmas gift. Hey, it's coming a little early. Why don't you open this up? He allowed or granted the request to drop the count of manslaughter in the second degree, which the jury was deadlocked on, telling the jury now just only consider the lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide.

well, you can't do that. You can't do that. You have to come to a conclusion, 12-0 on the first one, before you can move to the second one. If you're hung on the first one, this is a game that is being played because apparently Bragg just wants another conviction of somebody. And you cannot change.

the rules in the middle of the game, but doesn't matter in New York City. Why are you living in New York? Sincerely. Sincerely, haven't they given you enough indications that they don't care about the law? Alvin Bragg, he should be fired. There should be people right now marching in the streets in New York saying, this guy's got to go. It's not, this isn't about Donald Trump. He's already bent the law so far out of shape that you can't even recognize it under Donald Trump. And now for a regular person, he does it again. And a judge helps him do it. This isn't American justice. So Bragg asked for this. Can't even believe he should be disbarred for even asking for this. And so should the judge for granting it. So,

what's going to happen? Well, today, the jury is going back under new rules, just made up. And they're going to consider the lesser charge without the bigger charge. So he could be charged with the lesser one. See, this is why they always say, on the first count, we find the defendant not guilty. Or we find him guilty. if they say we are hung on the first count, you never get to the second, third, fourth, fifth, hit count.

You have to have a verdict on each count. So what are they going to say? On the first count, we're hung. Well, the law requires then that this case is a mistrial. And Bragg can go for the lesser charge and try him again, but you can't just... This is insane. This is insane.

This is not American justice. This is a kangaroo court. In New York, again, I just say to you, why are you living there? If they don't care, look what they've done to business. They've charged Donald Trump with something that has never, ever been charged before. Never been charged before.

It was not a victim list. crime. It wasn't a crime. It wasn't a crime. He stated that the value of one of his houses, Mar-a-Lago, was worth more than the state said. The bank, you never walked into a bank and said, you know what? I've got a house worth $14 billion. And they go, oh, okay, we'll take your word for it. They don't ever do that. They go and they send somebody to inspect and look at the house and evaluate and give value for the bank to the house. And they're like, now we're $14,000. We're going to give you $1,400 of value for that.

Okay. Then he took out a loan based on those numbers. He paid it back with interest exactly as contracted. And where's the crime? because everybody, everyone puts a different value, perhaps, than the bank does. The bank doesn't take your word for it. If the bank took everybody's word for it, the bank would be out of business. My gosh.

So they did that. What does that mean for businesses? It means if they don't like you, look out, look out. They also charged him with other business crimes, never been tried before. They don't care. But everybody looked the other way because that was Donald Trump. This isn't, this is not Donald Trump now. This is a guy who all of America should be calling a hero.

If you watched him say after they arrested him and they're, they're trying him or they're, they're questioning him with the police, they come in and they're talking to him the guy is clearly not yeah well I took him down he was clearly just trying to protect people and do the right thing again there are two Americas

and I don't understand this one because this one isn't about this one's not about Donald Trump. Now there have been people who've tried to make this about race because he's white and the victim was black. So maybe New Yorkers are still buying into that crap.

That show is over, guys. That show is over. When there is a real crime about black and white, white on black or black on white doesn't matter. But you're at the very end of all of this nonsense of DEI. and all of that crap. You're at the end of it. That was a bad movie and we're at the end of it

and people are starting to walk out of the theater going, I don't think I bought that. That was ridiculous. People liked it for a long time. It's not over yet, but it's damn close. Now, let me give you another story. This is the same kind of story except it happens in Germany, but it's to an American.

a 64-year-old what had Etria Etria Eritrea So he's an Eritrean Eritian yeah Eritrean and I'm sorry I only vacationed there a couple of times

Yeah well you had that time share for a bunch of years Yeah And there was an issue with it so yeah Understandable anyway I only went just you know for the free weekend Yeah to sit there and listen to the Etrian or Eritrean people talk anyway um so this guy he comes and uh he grabs this 20 year old by the butt and kind of grabs her and she fights back uh and then it gets a little nasty and she pulls out a knife and comes after him and he grabs her arm with the knife and she gets you know the better of her of him because he's 64

she's 20 and she grabs a knife and she sticks it in him, she sticks it in his heart, he dies. Now, I just want to give you a little bit of background here on what's happening in Germany. More than a thousand women were sexually assaulted by migrants at a New Year's Eve celebration in Germany. a thousand at a New Year's Eve celebration. In September of 2023, 26 German police were injured as masses of Eritrean migrants fought each other in the streets. Okay, 26 police.

So this is not necessarily, you know, the, hey, let's just become German kind of people. got it this is the same problem happening all over so what happens to this american so she goes to she goes to trial and she's found guilty she by the way turned herself in as soon as it happened she called police she called uh you know 911 or whatever it is uh and then turned herself in. She was charged with causing bodily harm resulting in death. She was arrested. She was found guilty. And they gave her 10 years in prison. Ten years in prison. Now, let me show you how fair that is in Germany.

There was a group of nine migrants that gang raped a German girl in 2020. Nine were convicted. Only one went to prison. Even though all nine

expressed no regret whatsoever, only one of the nine went to prison. And it wasn't for 10 years. Then, because of that, the German police investigated more than 100 Germans criticizing the people in that case. Criticizing you say, how can you possibly let these nine go? Look what they just did. They investigated and prosecuted, well, they investigated at least 100 people.

For just speaking out. In June, another 20-year-old woman in Germany was sentenced to jail for defamation, for calling one of those nine men a disgusting rapist pig. So the one she called a, quote, discussing rapist pig didn't go to jail. She did. Our state department said, well, we can't talk about this. We can't talk about this at this time. I'd be talking about this.

Hopefully Donald Trump will be talking about this. Hey, Germany, return this woman. Return this woman. This is, I'm telling you, this is the kind of stuff that ends poorly. Was she wrong? I don't think so. But apparently they were, when they were arguing and fighting, he turned and started to walk away and she pursued.

Now, I don't know how far that pursue was. I don't know all the details, but that would give you a little indication that maybe she, but 10 years, 10 years when the people doing the raping get nothing? I don't think so. I'm supposed to stand there and take the sexual assault. That's the plan. That's the plan.

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There was absolutely no doubt who was more nervous. I couldn't even look at the stage. I was like, oh, my gosh, my gosh, I'm so nervous. I'm so nervous. She did great, though. She's great. She's great. That's Cheyenne Grace, and the name of the album is home for Christmas.

All right. So let's get back to what we were just talking about, justice. Now, Donald Trump was on Meet the Press. Are you surprised at all he did this? No. No, he's the president. Why do they get, and why is that assumed, I guess is my question? Why is it assumed that Meet the Press just gets this after the way NBC News has handled the past four years?

I think the president should go on a little of everything. Yeah, I agree with that. But like you, the way you reacted is I think the way America. Yeah, of course he's president. He's going to meet the press. Why? At some point, should we not challenge this at its core? Yeah.

Because, I mean, you watch this interview, and I don't think she deserved this interview. I don't think she did a good job with it. Let me make your point, because I almost just said this without thinking, I'm making your point. It's meet the press. Right. So you're right. You're right.

I don't know why. I don't know why. but he came on and he said, look, illegals are going by-bye. He said there is the failure to enforce laws regarding immigration that have been unfair to legal immigrants. You have to. It's a tough thing to do, but you have to. We have rules, regulations, and laws. They came in illegally.

You know, the people have been treated very unfairly are the people who have been in line for 10 years to come into our country. country and we're going to make it very easy for people to come in and they have to pass a test. They have to be able to tell you what the Statue of Liberty is. They have to tell you a little bit about our country. They have to love our country. But they can't come out of prisons. We don't want people like that here. Amen.

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To Anthony Fauci, is he going to be pardoned? But let's start with Doge. The Senate Republicans hopefully are ready. to just slash government spending. And hopefully we do it in the fashion that Calvin Coolidge did it back in the 1920s. Senator Rand Paul, welcome to the program. Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me. You bet. So how serious do you think this Doge thing is? You know, I think it's very helpful because, you know, the problem is not just Democrats in Washington.

It's big government Republicans. Correct. And I think Elon and Vivek bringing. attention to this. We've already offered up. I've been for 10 years collecting and arguing that we should get rid of waste. We sent them 2,000 pages worth of waste that could be addressed immediately. Some can be done through executive action. I think you can let people go. You can fire people, you can fire people for cause. You can also change the contracting. You know, one of the things Elon did at SpaceX was he started bidding on things and they started doing it through competitive bidding as

opposed to cost plus. The big companies, Boeing and Lockheed, would get their contracts and say, oh, we bid a billion dollars. Oh, sorry, we came in at $2 billion. Well, you get 10% of whatever you come in at. So in fact, yours an incentive to come in over budget. So there's a lot of things they can do, and I hope they will do. On spending reductions, there's a special procedure where if we send a billion dollars to the administration to build a ship, and they build it for $800 million, they can send the 200 million back to us through a special procedure called rescission, and it gets an immediate vote, a privileged vote, and it's a simple majority. Most of the problems we have is getting to 60 votes to undo bad things the Democrats have done,

but with this case, rescission, reducing spending that is sent back to us by the president, it's a simple majority. However, we tried to do this in the first Trump administration with a really small bill, $15 billion cut, and it failed because, Republicans voted with the Democrats to keep the spending. So we have to do this. We're going to have 53 in the Senate and only one or two majority in the House. We've got to see if we could actually get the majority of Republicans to vote for spending cuts. If they all do, we can cut significant spending. Would you agree with me that Donald Trump's different than he was in 2020?

But if we would have had him in 2020, it would have been a different situation entirely. I think he's much more focused now. His picks for his cabinet, I think, are light years ahead of what was going on in 2016 for sure. Yeah. And he really wants to disrupt. He is not going to allow the status quo. He saw the status quo use the apparatus of government to come after him individually. And he realizes that in 2016, but again through 2020, that our intelligence agencies were being used against him.

Both retired and I believe active went after the whole Hunter Biden thing to say it was Russian propaganda. And it turned out the propaganda was actually U.S. propaganda calling it Russian propaganda. And FBI needs to be cleaned house. Cash Patel, I think can do it. D&I, Tulsi Gabbard, I think can do it over there. And he hasn't picked, you know, moderate, Republican. He's picked strong people on the COVID front, picking Marty McCary, a doctor from Johns Hopkins, and Jay Batacharya, a doctor from Stanford, who have been leading,

leaders and pointing out this nonsense. These are people I would have picked. So I'm over the moon with some of these picks. So what do you think is going to happen? I mean, it's, you know, the White House is saying that Fauci may be pardoned in advance of anything, which doesn't seem like you could do that, but they'll try it anyway. I mean, at least it has to be, everything just has to be dumped and exposed.

I've sent referrals, criminal referrals, on Anthony Fauci twice to the Department of Justice, without willing response. Merrick Garland hasn't done his job. He's probably been the most partisan attorney general we've ever had. I will send those referrals again. If they preemptively pardoned Anthony Fauci, it will seal his fate as the architect, author, and godfather of the pandemic. He's the one that funded it.

He's the one that funded the research and move on. he's the one that allowed the research not to be screwed up. People don't quite get this. There was a safety committee that was supposed to scrutinize dangerous research. It was set up because of fear of exactly this happening. There have been scientists talking about this for 20 years, worried that this is going to happen. Anthony Fauci sidestepped the safety committee and allowed this research to go on. Then when it came forward that he had done it, he was like, oh, nothing to see here.

We didn't really do it. Oh, well, we funded EcoHealth. and they funded Wu-on, but oh, nothing to see here. And then he had the gall to say it wasn't gain a function and it wasn't dangerous. That's all I, all that's come out. And really, we have him in his own words. We have him in private saying, oh, we know it's really dangerous there. And we know they do gain of function research.

So we've got him dead to rights. If the president pardons him, I think it'll just cement his role in history as being the architect of gain of function surgery. So, but will we release this? This is the one thing I'm hoping Cash Patel does. I hope he releases just the raw evidence that has been gathered, you know, kind of, kind of like the Twitter files, where we can see all the stuff that has been classified that should be seen by the American people. With regard to COVID, we voted unanimously to declassify all of it.

So this was over a year and a half ago. the FBI did do their job. They did a report, and they said that they thought COVID came from the lab, that the virus or the pandemic started with the lab leak. But they haven't released their report. They've been told to declassify it. I truly believe Cash Patel will look at that. And the way you declassified is this.

If there's a name in there, you don't want somebody to know a name or a source, you take that out of the report. In fact, even when I read and see classified things, I almost never have seen a name or a source, which I think is good. your sources, but I should get to see all the information. And really, in this case, the American public should see all of the information. Anything to do with Russiagate, anything to do with the abuse of the FBI to go after Donald Trump, all that has to be publicly released as well. Well, on Friday, here in Fort Worth, Texas, there was a judge that ordered Pfizer to

release and produce all of its emergency use authorization file to a group of scientists that They want to look through it. And they've been saying, well, we can't do it. We can't do it. And the judge finally just said, do it now. You've never had someone like Donald Trump or like these appointees. And that's why first line of battle is getting them through. There are many establishment Republicans.

You know who they are who are weak need or, frankly, just no better than Democrats that are looking to destroy Donald Trump's picks. And so I'm going to be working very hard for Robert Kennedy, for Tulsi Gabbard, for Cash Patel. These are, you know, those three right at the tip of my mind are going to have a lot of establishment Republicans questioning. And we got to make sure we get them through and we got to make sure everybody, you know, listening to the radio, everybody out there is calling their particularly Republican senators

and saying Donald Trump needs his team. How long do you think, I mean, do you think he's going to get these, what do you call them, out of session appointments, because it took him like two years to get all of his appointment. He didn't even get all of them in two years. He needs them right now. But I hate the precedence that that would say. The vast majority, the vast majority will very quickly. I can tell you, I am hopeful that I will be chairman of the Department of Homeland Security.

So, Christine Nome's nomination will come to my committee. My plan is, if elected in the next couple of weeks in January, to be the chairman, and I will have a hearing for her before the inauguration. As soon as he officially appoints her after the inauguration, I may be able to have a vote that day. Sometimes we will vote that day. So while some of it was slow in 2016, the Secretary of State, Homeland Security,

several of these important positions were filled pretty quickly. And we plan on doing that again. I would be surprised in the first week if we don't have four or five cabinet-level people appointed, voted on in the first in the first week. Let me switch topics to Syria. The president made it very clear that this is not our issue. You know, I went back this weekend and looked at a story from 2016 where the CIA was

supporting one side and the Pentagon was supporting the other side in Syria and they were fighting each other. And now the president, the current president, whoever that is, you know, bombed Syria over the weekend and and I just have this bad feeling that the industrial, the military industrial complex, wants to have a war somewhere. And Donald Trump is coming out and saying it is an ending of our business. I know where you stand on war. What do you see coming? I agree completely with Donald Trump on this. And the people who took over, the rebels who won, their new name is a a new name given to an old group called Al-Nusra, which were associated with al-Qaeda.

So they were Islamist, meaning that they were for a radical, fundamental sort of nature of Islam that doesn't treat women well, doesn't treat Christians well, et cetera, a very primitive form of Islam. Well, they've been fighting there for a long time. There's also another group called ISIS that is actually somewhat the same, fundamental Islamist. and then there are also other groups there as well there have been the russians there there have been iranian proxies there there have been Assad there caught in the mix are hundreds of thousands of christians who have always had sanctuary since the time of christ frankly and are at risk and so we have 900 soldiers 900 soldiers isn't enough to organize a parade i mean 900 soldiers

is not you go to war with you want to go to war in syria you put 510 100 000 and troops, and you don't put 900 troops in there. They become targets not a deterrent. They're not deterring anything, but if some of them are killed, and I hope this doesn't happen, then all of a sudden maybe we are drug into the middle of a civil war where there are no good people on either side of it. Let me ask you one final question about, you've got a bill coming out that's similar to the South Korean law, which I don't even know what happened in South Korea.

I'm still confused by that, where the U.S. Senate would allow presidential emergency to continue only with a majority vote in Congress, which I 100% back. What does this mean to all of the emergencies that we have dating way, way back, that are still in effect? They expire. And currently, if a president has an emergency, the emergency can only be stopped by Congress if Congress votes to stop it. But then the president would veto it. So it really takes a two-thirds vote of Congress to stop an emergency.

My bill would actually change it where it's a simple majority. We don't have to vote to stop it. It stops automatically by statute. We had this in Kentucky in our state government. Our governor shut down the hotels, made it illegal to travel, made it illegal to go to church during COVID. And the legislature couldn't stop him because they were in session. So when they finally came back in session, our Kentucky legislature said, Governor's emergencies last 30 days, then they expire, and less affirmed by a majority of the legislature.

So this reverses it. Instead of needing two-thirds to stop a crazy governor or a crazy president, it actually takes a simple, you have to have a simple majority to affirm it. So it really completely flips this on its head, and it's what we have all wanted. And some partisans will say, oh, this is against Donald Trump. No, I had this under Harris. I had this under Biden. I've had this under, I've had this bill for years. And both Mike Lee and I have fought on this out of principle, nothing to do with who the president is. I don't want any, I don't want any president to have this kind of power. We have got to reduce the power of the president of the United States. And if he goes in and does everything by executive order, we lose because the next guy will come in and do exactly what Biden did and just cancel.

at all. We've got to get back to a debate, to reason, and to Congress and the Senate actually doing their job. This is something that people need to realize that it's not new because people get caught up in the situation. They think it's about one person or another. The constitutional position of conservatives and limited government advocates has always been that, as Madison said, we divided the powers, we separated the powers, and we wanted to pit ambition against ambition. In other words, the ambition of people to try to take power would be pitted by the others trying to keep them from taking power. But over the last hundred years since FDR, the power of the presidency has gradually expanded, and what we need now is a stronger legislature and less power for the central authority to balance that power again.

This was sort of Montesquieu saying that when the executive legislates, when he has both the power to execute and legislate, that's when liberty fails. That's when tyranny arrives. And so, I don't know, people just need to realize this has nothing to do with an individual, a new president, an old president. It has all to do with constitutional principles that have always motivated those of us who believe in limited government. I think there's a lot of people awake to exactly that message, and your time is right now. Rand. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Senator Rand Paul from the great state of Kentucky. Now, let me tell you about my Patriot supply. With the Trump administration coming in, I feel pretty good, you know.

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I'm so sick and tired of hearing these sanctuary cities that were just crying uncle when it was Joe Biden. Oh, we can't handle this. We can't handle. We're going to collapse. We need more federal money. As soon as Donald Trump comes in, they all double down. We're sanctuary cities.

We're not going to do anything. to help this man. Really? I hope Donald Trump comes down with a massive hammer on these cities and these counties. I want to talk to you about what's happening in San Diego County. One of the supervisors there, the county supervisor for San Diego, Jim Desmond, is raising the red flag saying, hello, wake up everybody. Because tomorrow they are going to propose doubling down on their sanctuary city status. We're going to talk to about that in 60 seconds. Stand by. We are right around the corner from the day we celebrate the birth of the most important baby to ever have been born, Jesus Christ. The preciousness of one single life is a core belief at the very foundation of everything we believe. And working to preserve

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Oh, man. Well, overall, what it is is really disrupting cooperation between our local law enforcement and ICE, immigration. and customs enforcement. And so anytime you disrupt or try to stop that communication or cooperation, basically you're making, making us more unsafe. And that's really what the overall crux is, what they're trying to do is not have ICE involved,

primarily with the people that we have in the jails here in San Diego County. Even though they're here illegally, and even though they're criminals, one of my colleagues is putting forward an effort that we don't have that cooperation between ICE and local law enforcement. As a fact, we sever it. And that's what's being proposed. Let me read just an excerpt of this. Shall not provide assistance or cooperation to ICE in its civil immigration enforcement

efforts, including by giving ICE agents access to individuals or allowing them to use county facilities to investigate interviews or other purposes, expending county time or resources responding to ICE inquiries or communicating with ICE regarding individuals incarceration status or release dates or otherwise participating in any civil immigration enforcement activities. This is insane. It is. And to have that and, you know, these are, these are criminals. These are criminals that have been charged. They're in our jails. And they're either, you know, that while they're in, they should be able to be, I should be able to come in and investigate and see if they should

be deported or not. And when they get released, and unfortunately, you know, these, they're going to be released back into our communities. They have, there's no retribution. And if we don't deport these people, you know, this is really what we need to do to make ourselves, our countries and our community safer, is get these illegal immigrants that are here and that our criminals, they should be deported first. They should be out the door. There should be no question about that. And that's just, you know, the community, we have people, you know, coming onto our beaches here. here in San Diego County and boatloads. And they're just walking into the communities and disappearing into the country. We have the border here as well. We had over 150,000 people just dropped in our streets here after they came across the border with no vetting.

And so, you know, in San Diego County, we're a coastal community in California, which is still unfortunately mostly blue. But we've also got safety concerns. And I'm hoping to most people wake up to that and say, hey, these criminal illegal immigrants have to be deported. So we're on in San Diego and I hope that people are listening and are, do they need to attend this meeting? What do they need to do? Well, they need to attend or call in. They can do that. They can contact the county administration office and they get information on how to how to call in and how to voice, you know, make your voices be heard because this is really

insane the fact that we've got criminal elements here that are being released back into our streets and the people are here illegally. And pretty, you know, the people that, um, this, my colleague is trying to protect, uh, are other illegal immigrants is what she's trying to protect. But by allowing the criminal ones to stay here, that's hurting the same neighborhoods that, that she's trying to protect. To me, it's, it's, uh, you know, uh, it's just ludicrous to try to do, to attempt to just allow that criminal element to stay here in San Diego County when they should be deported out of country. So in San Diego, when the vote came through and people were voting red, what was the,

where was immigration on the list of things people were voting for? Because I would imagine in San Diego, if I was voting for Donald Trump, that would be pretty high on the list. Oh, absolutely. I do think immigration is huge just because we're the front, we're the dormat here in California. Right. Where Gavin Newsom just puts out the red country. for people to come across.

And so there was a Republican shift. There was a red shift, but not enough. I think there's only about 12 percent. We needed about double that here in San Diego County. So immigration is on top of people, are on top of people's mind. I think it's unfortunately, most people are too busy to understand what's going on because they got their own lives and families and kids and to understand the nuances of what this is really going to do.

And to me, it's going to be harmful to the community. and affect public safety for all of our neighborhoods here, not only in San Diego County, but in the rest of the country. Do you think there's any chance that California returns? I mean, Tani and I have been talking about moving to Florida, you know, as I get older, I guess I have to go with a metal detector on a beach someplace. And I've always hated the humidity. I grew up in the West Coast, and I always, always wanted to live in San Diego. I won't even consider it because you're stating. is so insane. Is there a chance this ever changes? I hope so. I'm crossing my fingers. We used to have, you know, we used to have a Ronald Reagan. I know. It was a great state. We've had some good leaders

in the past, but unfortunately it's shifted. And unfortunately, our entire state government, they have a super majority of Democrats. So even Republican voices hardly ever get heard. But I think people are waking up here, particularly, you know, to the immigration issue. And I think that's front of people's minds. And even, you know, the richer beach or, you know, more affluent beach communities where these boats are landing, it used to be like two or three a week, we just have a dozen people jump off the boat and run into the neighborhood and get picked up and go someplace else. So I'm hoping there's some change in immigration is definitely on top of people's minds, but we, they got to understand that we got to get rid of the illegal immigrants that are here committing crimes.

and allow law enforcement agencies to work together to keep us safe. Is there any thought at all about Donald Trump cracking down on sanctuary cities? Well, hey, I'm liking what Homan has been saying here lately, crack it down. Right. Yeah. You know, there's ways they can do that, you know, with funding and things like that. And, you know, we can't break federal law if they make federal law such that. that law enforcement agencies have to work together,

then we can't really, you know, we can't, you know, push against that. But I think there's a possibility of some rational people finally getting around and saying, hey, this isn't safe. You know, we want immigration. We want it done legally. But people, if they're going to come here and just walk across the border, ask for asylum, and then commit crimes. And these are high-end crimes we're talking about.

This is, you know, possession of a firearm. gang-related violence, burglary, robbery, child abuse and her engagement. Those are the things that are going to be taken off the list if this passes to where ICE can come in and work with the criminal element. It's just insane. Just insane. We're talking to Jim Desmond. He is a San Diego County supervisor.

All right. Just one last push. What do people do if they want to get involved and help? It's Jim. Desmond at San Diego County. or you can contact the county offices, look for the meetings, meetings, go to the agenda, you can call in. That's probably the easiest thing to do instead of waiting, you know,

because the meetings go for several hours. You can call in and voice your concerns. Tell my colleagues, because unfortunately, I'm at the wrong end of a three-two on this board, and I have a hunch it's going to pass. And so we really want to let these folks know that, hey, we want legal immigration. We want law enforcement to work together. That's the message. Thank you so much, Jim. I appreciate it. God bless.

All right. Thanks, my question. That's Supervisor Jim Desmond from Supervisor Jim Desmond.com. Supervisor Jim Desmond.com. Man, I hope the president comes down on these sanctuary cities. You know, there is a clear mandate here. And every single city, Chicago was even saying it. We can't handle it. We can't handle it. And all of a sudden, Donald Trump wins.

oh, we're against this entirely. These people, we've got to coddle them and they're great Americans. If they're causing crime in your city, what do you? How is this, honestly, how does that even pass? How is the person who is elected as a supervisor justify that to the average citizen in San Diego County? Oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to, yeah, oh, yeah, they were abusing children. No, you don't want them deported. What are you?

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I think it was last week, talked to the president of Mexico and said, you know, things are going to change. Is the military of Mexico, have they done anything different? So we haven't seen a significant posture change. They are still actively keeping up.

A lot of migrants in southern Mexico from Mexico City all the way to Tapachula. There's been some loosening from my sources in Mexico on the highway checkpoints, but the train, that La Bastia train that we have seen thousands and thousands of migrants used to get to the border, it's basically void. You know, they're still very strongly doing that. So my sources unofficially have said the number has reduced for November apprehensions to less than 50,000, which is important because that's the threshold. Remember the 2,500 threshold per day that President Biden said in his executive order to deny asylum, we're well under that. We're close to

1,200 a day nationwide. So it's staying pretty slow along the border thus far. Yeah, it needs to go even, the number needs to rise on the trip back. Are you seeing any movement at all on people who were either on their way to the border turning around or people that are here getting out, if we have any indication of that? No, we certainly don't. What we know is we're seeing caravans assemble. We're seeing the Mexican government allowing them to walk for a few days, get tired, and then dispersing them to cities around southern Mexico,

urging them to wait for a CBP-1 appointment or to use the CHVN parole program right now. But that's the complicating factor, Glenn, is that's definitely going to end as soon as the hand hits the Bible and President Trump has sworn in. We're assured that that's going to end. So that's 1450 people allowed in daily through ports of entry along the southwest border and another thousand a day through the airport. So you're looking at nearly a million people a year under those two programs alone. They're going to shortly find out that they're not going to get any appointments. scheduled after January the 20th. So the question is, how is Mexico going to kind of keep a lid on that pressure cooker they're going to have in a few short days? We are talking to a retiree of the

Border Patrol and a great reporter for Brightport News, who is really an expert on this, Randy Clark. Randy, the drug cartels have made so much money. They've doubled the price since Donald Trump got into office of getting across. I personally think, this is just my opinion, but I think that we're almost in bed with these drug cartels and almost in business with him in some ways. Donald Trump has said he's going to take him on, and I think he will militarily. What's going to happen to, let's say, the new president of Mexico, if she has to start cracking down on these cartels, people usually die in her position in Mexico. And I think we're seeing, you know, not an acknowledgement that she's going to be somewhat

different than the predecessor in Mexico who believed in the hugs and not bullets. There are still some battles between the Mexican government and the Sina Loa cartel going on, although it's not highly publicized, but the murder rate there is through the roof. The murders continue in Mexico. So if she doesn't cooperate with the United States, they're still sitting on top of a horrible death rate for Mexican citizens in every state, really, in their union. So I think it behooves her to cooperate, but we must act. When you look at how many children and young adults are dying from fentanyl, it's marketed poisoning of our youth. So it's something that I take the president at his word to.

My last year before I retired was under, you know, Donald Trump. and the same folks he's nominating to run this Department of Homeland Security were involved in the policies and practices that saw us reach the lowest number of border crossings. They've got this all on the drawing board already. I think they're just going to enhance it and run it into high gear as soon as they get in January and be very creative about how we undo this mess we've seen over the last three years. Yeah, Randy, I too know a few people that he has hand-selected that are no-nonsense people. that are gearing for this, what would the reaction of Mexico and the Mexican people be if we just started sending seal teams in to take these cartels out? Well, you know, I think in some Mexican states, they would probably welcome that because,

you know, if you look to see what El Salvador is doing right now, and you see the phenomenal impact, Bokely's, you know, policies are having on crime there and the murder rate, that's the way we all want to live. None of us want to live in a place where you can't enjoy your surroundings and move and your children aren't safe. So I think you'd have some people in Mexico saying it's about time. The question is, can we push them to do for themselves? And I think we can.

And I think we've seen that since January. Right now, border crossings here in Eagle Passet, everybody witnessed on the news are down 80%. they were 250,000 in a month across the southwest border in December of last year. They are about 46,000 a month right now. So we can see what Mexico can do if you really put the pressure on. And nobody better than President-elect Trump knows the leverage that he possesses and how to use it. So I think we can get a lot out of them without having to do that military intervention directly by declaring them terrorist organizations,

by seizing that money, by stopping remittances to Mexico that are to the tune of $60 billion a year. So there's a lot that President Trump understands, and his crew understands they can do to get a handle on a lot of these things. And I think the government of Mexico is already preparing for that, or they would have undone some of their enforcement efforts once they found out Kamala Harris lost. You know, if you ask the average person who has deported more people than any other president, maybe they would say Eisenhower. They, of course, would probably say Donald Trump here soon.

But the one that is way over everybody else. Everybody else is in the two, three million kind of number. The one that is the highest at 11 million is Bill Clinton. And, you know, nobody said anything about that. I didn't even, I was shocked when I read that. And I don't remember anybody saying anything about deporting, but he did it the right way and he got 11, 11 million people out from actually physically deporting and making it so uncomfortable that they would self-deport.

What do you think Trump's move in policy is going to be like to deport all of these people? Well, I'm going to take him at his word. I think we're looking at mass deportations because it has to be a big program. I've stood on the Mexican side of the river and watched a single group of over 2,000, crossed the border in one single group. I had never seen that in 32 years. Never. In that same area, it would have been a big deal five, six years before to see 20 people,

30 people in a group perhaps crossing. It would have created cry to stir amongst some workplace. Let's get over there. Let's find these folks. $2,400, it's hard to deal with. So if the removals are not going to be on a pace to match what we saw coming in, it would take decades to get this done. But I think there's, you know, we own the parole that we have granted out.

We know it was for folks that were unvetted. So there are a ton of people that are out of status right now that will release, some released with notices to report to ICE offices across the country that have disappeared. So I think no one's going to be more creative than the staff in January on how to get this done. I think they have a lot of tools. I think they need to look at the enforcement of employer sanctions provisions, because if you disrupt the economy, people will stop hiring undocumented workers. So I think they know that.

Tom Holton knows that better than anybody else. And if you were advising the president, what would your policy be? What would you push for for the punishment of sanctuary cities? Well, you know, I think if you look at the existing laws, you cannot harbor. You can't harbor aid a bet, whether it's in a building, anybody that you have reason to believe is in the United States in violation. law, right? So when ICE gives these detainers to these sanctuary cities for someone accused of rape that we know has already been removed, they are harboring when they don't let the ICE agents in there to do their job and they release them on the street. So they're not only endangering their communities.

I think clearly you could say that is aiding and abetting. That's harboring when you say you can't come in this building because we don't want you to do your federal job. So I think with a Congress installed, it's a Republican. My advice is to get everybody together and harden this and make it very clear, just like everybody has pushed for how many years to prosecute January 6 violators, take the same impetus and go against folks who fight this federal government to the letter of the law and say, if you're a sheriff and you don't allow them in your county jails, if you release folks that we have told you, ISIS told you, are in the country illegally, you have harbored, aided, and abetted, and we've seen rogue police officers get put in jail for violating criminal statute.

while on the job, well, that should pertain to everybody. And then you've got the pocketbook. All of these states like California receives over $160 billion in federal assistance. Maybe not penalized students, but maybe you can turn around and say, hey, maybe some secondary education programs at the liberal universities aren't going to get money if you don't abide by federal law. So it's quite simple. I think they're going to be more creative than I am.

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I just want to go through some of the audio from this weekend. Donald Trump was in France, and he met with President Macron and kind of gave him a man's handshake. Look at that. And Macron's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, all righty, let go, let go.

they didn't get along before but Macron had kind of a different attitude this time around as seemingly everyone does let me go to Trump on NBC with RFK talking about RFK and child vaccines listen to what he said do you want to see childhood vaccines eliminated if they're dangerous for the children look

so possibly when you look at some of the problems when you look at what's going on with disease and sickness in our country, something's wrong. Are you talking about autism? Well, if you take a look at autism, you go back 25 years. Autism was almost non-existent. It was, you know, one out of 100,000, and now it's close to one out of 100. Well, I mean, what's happening if they can find it?

Now, I did something the other night that was a little unusual. At Mar-a-Lago, I called the drug companies, the top drug companies, and I called RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz and some of his people. And I said, let's all get together and let's figure out where we're going. Because we're going to do a lot of things. Number one, we're going to reduce prices because the middleman makes more money than the drug companies. In all fairness to the drug companies, there's a middleman that nobody even knows who they are. And you look at our drug prices, they're much higher than the prices for the same medicine, for the same stuff.

So we met. and we met for a long time, and we talked about pricing, and we talked about vaccines, you know, in terms of what happens. We talked about pesticides. We talked about everything. And I think a lot of good things are going to come from him. And he's not going to upset any system. He's not going to upset this.

He's not looking to, you know, to reinvent the wheel totally. But when you look at the numbers, we really don't have a very healthy country. Sir, going back 25 years, studies show that there is no link between vaccines and autism. And yet, it sounds like you are open to the possibility of him looking at getting rid of them. I think somebody has to find out. If you go back 25 years ago, you had very little autism. Now you have it. Well, they say because they're better in identifying it.

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Welcome to the program and welcome to Stu Bergier. Thank you, Glenn. Welcome, Stu. And Donald Trump went on Meet the Press this weekend. Yes. This is what you're supposed to do. Is it? Yeah, apparently so.

We're just supposed to reflexively go to NBC News whenever. Those days are over. Well, I thought they were too. No, I mean, he has to do him. But not, well, does he? Does he have to do them? Yeah, I think he should do a little of everything. You know what I mean?

I think you shouldn't just go to podcasts. You know, that's what Barack Obama did. Remember? And he was like doing interviews with, you know, who was that woman in the bathtub? And you're like, okay, this is ridiculous. You don't have to do the bathtub one, but I think you should go on places where you know you're not. Yeah, it's adversarial. You're not going to get a good interview.

I think that's required as president. I agree with that. As president, not necessarily as a candidate. I think it's something you should do. I mean, I think Kamala Harris should have done an adversarial interview during the campaign at some point, which she did not do. She didn't do interviews. I mean, she wasn't doing anything for a very long time. And they switched strategies and it did not help.

In fact, it went the opposite direction. No. They really, I do wonder there is their alternate world what that election would have looked like if she just continued to do nothing. I think it would have been closer. I think if she never did an interview, it would have been closer. I think you're right on that. I think you're right. The more she spoke, the more you were like, oh, dear God, no.

No, don't do that. Because I think they, they correct. realized that there were a certain amount of people who were very worried about a candidate that couldn't do an interview. Right. And so they tried to solve that by doing interviews. And what they should have done is just let those people go. Like, realize they're not going to vote for you in hope.

Has anybody noticed? And I am biased because I've been talking to him off air and watching him talk to a lot of people, you know, without cameras around. And his, uh, his grasp on deep subjects has changed a great deal. Have you noticed Donald Trump in interviews is not the same guy he was in 2020? Yeah, I think that's true. He certainly seems to be more focused and has a real plan. Yeah. And less bomb throwing. As we know, it's directly Project 2025, which he commissioned, which should remember of course. Now, um, um, Yeah, no, it does seem like he, you made the description.

I think it was last week, which has been sticking with me, which is after 2020, he just spent four years just like, this isn't going to happen to me again. Like, I'm going to make sure these things, if I get a president, if I'm able to become president again, I'm not going to be hit by all of these. I'm not going to be surprised ever again. Yeah, right. And it seems like he's coming in. He's ready. Ready for this. Yeah, he's ready.

The other thing that happened to him that I think has cut down all of his, uh, uh, uh, his slams and everything else. I mean, he still does. But you'll notice he's not as crazy on things. And I think that's... What do you mean to look crazy than things? Like, just not as like, you know, worried about like... Name calling.

Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? He's not like that as much because I think he's... You know, I think it really... This is just my speculation. Put yourself in his shoes in 2014. Everybody on both sides loved him, right? Maybe not as the president, but they loved him.

Everybody. As a celebrity, he was a great guy, and he's a philanthropist, and he's done so much. And then he gets in, and everybody that were his friends that knew him and knew what he was like, they all of a sudden turned on him. and I think that just took him by absolute surprise, and he just kept, he had to keep punching and punching and punching and punching. And I think now a couple of things have happened.

One, he just stopped caring because you do care. No matter what anybody says, you do care. He stopped caring. And then I think when he was shot, I think he found his purpose. and I also think in the following month, he kind of became cool. He became the guy who could go on Saturday Night Live

and make fun of himself. You know what I mean? And everybody would accept him. He became kind of mainstream again. And so I don't think he feels like he has to punch anymore. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I have noticed a difference in him.

I mean, I think getting shot. Oh, it was critical. That was critical. to his change. Yeah, I mean, it has to change you, right? And so he's going into this with a real plan. And one part of his plan, this is going to be clip four, is his plan to end birthright citizenship. This is, you know, obviously highly controversial.

Many people on the left do not like it at all. They asked him about it on Meet the Press with, what is it, Wexler, Christine Wexler? Yeah, somebody that nobody's ever heard of because everybody who have heard of has no credibility. There you go. You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is that still your plan? Yeah, absolutely. The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens.

Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action? Well, we're going to have to get a change. We'll maybe have to go back to the people, but we have to end it with the only country that has it. Through an executive action? You know, with the only country that has it. Do you know, if somebody sets a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need to on our land. congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States of America. Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous.

Through executive action? Well, if we can, through executive action. I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you. We have to end it. Okay, so notice what happened here. She comes to the 14th. Stu, tell me why the 14th Amendment was first written.

What is that really about? I mean, I was wrong to say slavery? No, slavery. Okay. It was written. You looked at me like I was going to. No, no, no, no. It was written for slavery.

It was written because all citizens could vote and, you know, you have certain rights, blah, blah, blah. And so the Southerners, the Democrats said, well, they're not citizens. They're not citizens. They're from Africa. So they can't vote. Yeah, so they can't vote. Okay. if you were born here, even if you were born a slave, you're a citizen.

That's what that was about. That was not illegal immigration. Illegal immigration. Come over here, get into a hospital, have a baby, and now, congratulations, everybody is a citizen. That we are the only one that has it. And the only reason we do have it is because of slavery. It was a way to make sure the Democrats didn't just cut blacks out of the vote. again. That's what's so crazy. And so notice she goes, he says, we may have to go back to the people.

Can you just change that? Well, no, it's a constitutional amendment. So we may have to go back to the people. He says that first. Her immediate response is through executive action. No, I just, I just said we may have to go back to the people. There are several parts in this interview where she doesn't, it doesn't seem like she's even listening to him. She's got this idea of what Donald Trump says in. this moment and she's like already acted it out with her producers multiple times. So she's just not even listening. Yes. And I also, that's why they, that's why none of them have any credibility because there's not an honest exchange. There is no honest questions. He just said we may have to go, he volunteered. We may have to go back to the American people for that. So you're suggesting that

maybe it would be a constitutional amendment. Well, yeah, I think we would have to do it. I might I might, if I get stuck, I might try to find a way to do it through executive action, but it is a constitutional amendment. So yes, that's an honest conversation. Right. That's not what she did. No. Do we have this clip handy again to play it again?

I'll see if you, if you catch this one little bit in this. This is a clip four again. Listen to her verbiage of the 14th Amendment. You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is that still your plan? Yeah, absolutely. The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, All persons born in the United States are citizens.

Can you get around the 40th? Is that a quote? All persons born in the United States are citizens. That's what she said, the 14th Amendment says. You know, now that you ask me, I doubt it is. Right. But I don't do you, have you looked it up? I have it.

Okay. All persons born or naturalized in the United States. So she leaves that out, but not necessarily important to the conversation. But the next part is, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction. thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

The whole 14th Amendment argument, and you might disagree with this part of it, is that that praise and subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that illegal immigrants are not included. Now, I... How?

Well, they're not subject to that jurisdiction. So in other words, well, if... Like, would be. Right. If mom and baby were here, then they would be subject to that jurisdiction. But the family would not be because there are someplace else. I think the argument, and again, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on the 14th Amendment argument here. I'm going to tell you, but I absolutely am so far away from an expert. Right, right, right. You might as well talk to a

fisherman. What I have heard is people make this argument before. Okay. And the argument basically is to be subject to that jurisdiction does not mean that you don't you know everyone of course has to follow the laws of a country that you move into but to be subject of that jurisdiction means you have to have a basis in the country so it's not like you just cross the border and hey i'm now i'm now a subject of this jurisdiction you're a visitor right like or in this case a criminal crossing the border right so you would not get necessarily those protections of of that 14th of May I just say the only thing I hate the founders for is their use of commas. That's a good point. Stop with the use of commas. Could you please, for the love of Pete, the right to keep and bear arms, comma, under a well-run regulated militia, comma, shall not be infringement. Can you stop with a comma?

It makes it too complex now. Stop with the commas. It's very true. But I mean, I think, I think regardless of what you think about the argument of the 14th Amendment and people who believe illegal immigrants would not be grandfathered into that, if it's foundational to the argument, why would you skip it? Right. Right.

Like, you have to bring that up. Could you do me a favor? Do you have chat chipped? or something like that. Yeah. Type that in and ask what that means. Sure. Let's see.

It'll take me a second, obviously. Yeah, yeah. All right. Do you want to go on to the next clip or you want to stick to this? Yeah, let's go to the next clip. Okay, next one is on Ukraine. And what needs to happen with Ukraine? This is, again, Trump on Meet the Press.

There are people being killed in that war at levels that nobody's ever seen before. You have to go back to the Second World War. And even that, if you take a look at it. And you know what it is? It's the soldiers largely. The cities have been emptied out and demolished. The country has been demolished. If I won that election, which you know how I feel about it, I won't get into it because we don't need to start that argument.

I think it's an easy argument. It was really proven even more conclusively by the wind that I had on this one. But you did. But that's your opinion. But I disagree with it. Had I assumed? kept control. Number one, Israel wouldn't have happened. Number two, Ukraine would have never happened. It would have never happened, Ukraine, Russia. But the number of people that are being

killed, soldiers, young, beautiful soldiers, hundreds of thousands of people are being killed. And, you know, it's very interesting. It's level. Totally level. The battlefields, totally level. You know what's happening? The only thing that stops a bullet, you know what it is, is a body, a human body. and the people that are being killed, hundreds of thousands on both sides. Russia's lost probably 500,000. Ukraine's lost higher than they say probably 400,000. You're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies laying all over fields. It's as stupidest thing I've ever seen, and it should have never been allowed to happen.

Biden should have been able to stop it. Amen. He's absolutely right. And when this is over and the body count is actually revealed, and when you see Black Rock there rebuilding, when you see all of these friends of the Bidens rebuilding, when you see Black Rock owning the farmland, then maybe we'll start to have some idea of how grotesque this really was.

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And I will say our robot betters seem to have summarized this, the same way that I understood it. Okay. So historically, the consensus among most legal scholars and historical practices has been the phrase excludes only a few categories. This is the phrase of not subject to the jurisdiction in the United States. Those categories are children of foreign diplomats, enemy soldiers, and some Native American tribes who maintain their tribal jurisdiction. Legal precedent has largely supported the view that children born in the U.S. to foreign citizens are indeed U.S. citizens, regardless of the immigration status of the parents. Then some conservatives argue subject to the jurisdiction thereof excludes

individuals who are in the country illegally as they are not legally subject to the U.S. jurisdiction in the same way as lawful residents or citizens. They claim that because illegal immigrants have not entered the country and remained in it legally, that they or their children should not automatically receive citizenship. That is my understanding of the debate. And again, you can say you disagree with the conservative side of that debate, you know, many do, but to actually skip the phrase that is important to the debate when talking to the man who's arguing the conservative side of that debate is jurist, is journalism malpractice at the very least? And I think it's intentional.

I believe that it is intentional. But I don't know. Wait. I think it's NBC. It's not intentional. It's NBC. It's just what we are. It's just what they do.

Yes. Of course it is. And that's again, like, it goes back to our original conversation as opposed to whether you go and meet the press or not. Do you need to go to a place that's intentionally doing things like that? I mean, and that is inexcusable for the one phrase that's important to the debate you leave out of the amendment? I mean, it's obviously intentional. I like the fact that the president was calm, cool, collected, didn't name call, went through that whole thing. Wasn't a fair interview.

It was exactly what you would expect. But at least he went and talked to the other side. I think it's worth doing to talk to the other side. I think it's worth doing adversarial interviews. I just wish you'd had a little honesty, I guess. Like, I feel like when you went back on the show with Russert, that's, that's, what you got. Yes. Yes. It wasn't an interview liked.

A lot of times he took things, I think, and took the Democratic side a little unfairly, but he wouldn't eliminate the part of the amendment that is the debate. Yeah. He would not have done that. No. And he would give you a... There were times that Russert, you'd be pissed off

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Well, the Daniel Penny verdict has come out, and he has now been found not guilty. Yes. Thank God. Thank God there's some justice. Now, what's weird is, first of all, the judge, I think broke the law. I think the judge and what's his name,

the district attorney up there in New York, really they should be disbarred. What they did in this particular case was wrong. When you have multiple counts and you're hung on the first count, you don't go to the second count. You declare a mistrial. But the judge, because of, is it Alvin Bragg? He's the DA.

Yeah, the DA. Alvin Bragg went and said, hey, we will accept that they're hung on that. Just have them consider the lesser charge. Well, that's not the way it works. You don't do that. And he was just trying to get them to convict. And somehow or another,

they went back today with very little time and found him 12-0 not guilty, which is weird that they were hung on the more serious charge. And then somebody just, I think it's like, guys, it's Christmas, I've got to go shopping, just, all right, whatever. I mean, honestly, it might have been that. I don't know why on the lesser charge, they didn't have a hard time. Someone was sharing one of the, like, courtroom drawings of the jury.

Yeah. And one of the people was wearing a mask and they were just saying, this has to be the person who's holding this up. It kind of does make sense. I don't know if it's actually accurate. Either that, it was the guy who shot the United Healthcare guy. Yeah, yeah. What a great place to hide out. Hiding in the jury box.

But a fascinating thing, you know, not exactly a banner year for Alvin Bragg. No. Like, he's had a rough one. No, he has. You know, really an embarrassment in every single way. I honestly don't know why he has, why he's not being recalled. I mean, other than it's New York. Yeah, but even in California, they've been recalling these guys.

I know. I mean, they've been defeating them in elections and, you know, this approach. of we only go after the good guys and let all the bad guys go is not an approach I think the American people are comfortable with no that's something I think no I mean it's a message being said pretty clearly how the good Samaritan law just didn't apply to him he obviously was not trying to kill the guy obviously and they knew that you could see it in the interview afterward right so how does the good Samaritan the law not apply I mean, I don't know what version of New York has of that law precisely.

I mean, they, and obviously, I think. Oh, oh, it's probably good Samaritan law. If you're a good Samaritan and you're trying to cause harm, but it's on a white person. Yeah, I would not be surprised. Right. Right. And you are somebody who is in any of the other categories, then it's. That's how it's applied.

That is how it's applied. Right. And so there's, by the way, the threats are being. issued now after the jury finds him guilty and activists. Not guilty. Huh? Not guilty. Yeah, not guilty. And they are also activists are in the streets of New York right now, protesting. He wasn't.

It's very difficult to even understand. I mean, because some of the people who he was protecting on the subway were people of color, if you will. Yeah, there wasn't, I don't think there was anyone on the subway that wasn't happy about it, too. Right. They were all, everybody in the car were like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, they might not have been happy that he died. And I don't think anyone was, including Daniel Penny was.

Right. Like, but they, they saw this as a clear, legitimate threat to their well-being. As they clarified in their testimony, it was not yet another one of these crazy people on the subway. If you've been in New York City, and this is a weird, I think it's a weird experience for anyone who's never lived there or worked there as we have. as we have. But like, it's very much a normal part of your life to go on the subway

and have a crazy person get on the subway and do something crazy while you're on the subway in an enclosed metal tube. It is a weird experience and you get really used to kind of looking at your shoes and looking the other way and acting like this thing that would have been the story

you told your friends every single day if you live in any other city. You just ignore it. and act like it's not happening. I'm trying to remember the comedian that has a special happy face. He's so funny. And he talks about just getting on the subway in New York, just trying not to get high on crack. He's like somebody comes in into the subway and they're smoking crack.

And then somebody will be, hey, you can't do that in here. Like the guy cares. Oh, my gosh. This is so unlike me. I'm sorry. Oh, there's a child here. I'm so embarrassed. And you just try not to get high on crack.

Right. It always reminded me of how gun free zones were really stupid. And that like the people who are coming to murder don't care about the gun free zone. The people who are coming to smoke crack on the subway don't care about your subway crack laws. They don't care. They don't care. Right. And so the people who were actually testifying in the trial made clear distinctions between that normal part of New York life of someone coming on the subway and acting a little crazy and maybe a little threatening. And what this guy was doing, Neely was doing. They said they really believed they were in danger. And I think that was the correct assumption. He was saying he didn't care if he went to prison for life. He was going to kill people. He was threatening them directly. The fact that Daniel Penny stopped that, or God forbid, whatever it could have become from happening,

means he should be treated as a hero, not as someone who's on trial. And the fact that this came out right is a good conciliatory prize, but not the right. outcome. Was it Bernie Gets? Who was the one that shot the guy on the subway? Yeah, Bernie Gets was one of them. Bernie Gets. What happened to him?

Did he? He got off two, didn't he? Yeah, if I remember correctly. Isn't it weird that it's the same kind of out of control city where somebody is just, you know, everybody knows they're afraid on the subway. Everybody knows crime is everywhere. And nobody does anything. And Bernard Getz took a gun on the subway, shot a guy out of control, went through the same

thing and was found innocent, I believe. And it was, it was, you know, more, I would say more controversial than this one. But he was carrying a gun in New York. Right. And he was actually, he was, if I remember right, convicted of carrying an illegal firearm. Right. Right. Right. Right. But that's all he was. Right. That's all he got. Um, in this case, this is quite clear. Like the, and, and, you know, it's, it's disturbing the way that he was interviewed. He's interviewed as if the police were his friend and they were trying to suss all this out in a positive way. I didn't like that at all. You said a couple of things that stuck with me a couple of weeks ago, you said, I finally get,

the police are not your friends, don't talk to the police without your attorney. Yeah. I've always been like, you know, I don't know. I've always had great interactions with police. And I think that's still the norm. It is. But you don't know. You don't know.

And, you know, pop up it in my head is Jeffrey, Jeff Fisher, a host of a podcast here. on Blaze, the Blaze Podcast Network. And he always says this. He carries a card with him that gives you the outline of don't talk to the police. They're, you know, they're not your friends. He has a whole little, like, six-step plan if you ever are talked to. Is it written in crayon? No, no, he didn't.

It's not his writing. It's somebody else's card. But, you know, he just has so much legal trouble that I think he has to have it with him at all times. But I remember him showing that to me at one point and being like, all right, like, in most interactions, it's totally fine to talk about police. After watching that with Penny, I was like, gosh, if you do something right, if God forbid you have to use your Second Amendment rights in personal defense, I wouldn't say word one to the police, not because I don't think the police are trustworthy. I think they are. But there's a system around it. And frankly, you can't trust anybody. And there's

a system around it that will churn that into a, you know, something where you are a racist, are you are, I don't know what they're going to say about you. And the best thing is, just zip it. If the government wants to get you, they will get you. Yeah. They will get you. I think that's true. They hold all of the cards.

Especially in a place like New York. Oh my gosh. Especially. If you're conservative living in New York, it's, I don't know how you do it. I don't know why you do it. Honestly. You did it. I did it.

Years ago, but you did it. I mean, I don't think things were nearly as bad. when you were there. I don't think they were great. You remember the process of trying to get a gun? My life was at stake, you know, all the time, had all kinds. I'd have to have to have six security guys with me, you know, in rotation all the time. Sometimes all six of them. And couldn't get a, couldn't get a, no, no, the judge just didn't think that it was necessary that my threats were credible.

It's like, here's, you remember the end of Miracle on 34th Street? I want that proof on my desk and they came in with all the bags of letters to Santa Claus. That's kind of like the way I felt like, oh, I can bring you the proof. What are you talking about? It's insane. Let me give you another movie that tells the same story. It's a United Healthcare CEO walking to work. Yeah.

You think you don't need some protection in that city? This poor guy just walking to work with a wife and two kids just gets executed in the streets. And most of the city seems to be cheering on the. murderer. And, you know, in a world like that, you don't need protection in that city. Of course you do. There's a great, I think it's like a, it's like a flow chart in one of your books. I can't remember which one it was. It might have been arguing with idiots or it's one of the earlier ones. It was for the guns. It was for the guns of how to buy a gun in New York. It was, I want to say it was arguing with idiots, but it was one of them. Inconvenient

book, maybe. I don't remember. Okay. But there, oh, you have one of them. I have. So you flip through it. But there is, if there is, if there is, if there is, if there is, if there is, There's a gun chapter. It probably is in there. But there is a flow chart of how to get one in New York. And it was actually a person who was writing. Kevin. Kevin, who was a co-wrought author of the book who actually tried to do it and went through

the entire process. It is insanity. Insanity. I mean, it's step after step after step after step. It's submitting paperwork. It's going back. It's re-submitting it over and over and over again. And it's like to the point where they know actually in reality what you're doing.

They know they're on the. they should approve it, but they do everything they can to deny it. Right. It's similar to what they're accusing health care companies of, you know, where they do everything they can. It's exactly the same. They just wear you out. Yeah, they wear you out. They just, it's years.

Until you're just like, okay, I don't. Okay. I can't. I mean, who can do that? Who can do that? I will say, this is not a paid commercial. Good time to think about a burner launcher. Yeah.

Because that is legal in all 50 states. Again, check your local law. just to be sure, triple sure. I know it's legal in states, but then I don't know if cities have, be sure, be careful, make sure you check. But I mean, that is exactly the type of thing that the burner launcher is perfect for. This is something that I don't understand. And again, not a commercial.

I don't understand why those aren't in every school in America. Why aren't those in schools? They're non-lethal. Non-lethal. So you're not going to kill any of the children. You might make some of them cry with tear gas. You don't even have to be a good shot. just be near. You could put your hand just outside the door and aim it down the hallway

towards the guy who's shooting. And if you're within six feet, it's going to stop him. It's going to put him in tear gas and give everybody a chance to pile on that guy. Yeah. I just, I don't understand it. You're not going to kill any children. Why wouldn't, it's almost as if somebody doesn't want to solve this. Because that's the, that is the solution, is a burn of launcher. It's at least, yeah, it's a great part of it. At the very least, and it's available, it's affordable? If you're on a school board, you should suggest that. Anyway, let me tell you about a commercial, and this is Tunnel to Towers.

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I have a little gift for you here. there's a new study that was just released ranking the last nine presidents from best to worst and who do you think has been ranked as the best last nine best president by just a thousand people in America

random. The worst? The best? The best the best nine presidents by random people. First one. First one. What do you think it is? Lincoln? Washington? No, last nine presidents. Of the last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it.

Reagan? Reagan. Reagan is number one. Number two. Yeah, come on. Clinton? Barack Obama. Then Bill Clinton, then George W. Bush, then Jimmy Carter, then George H.W. Bush, then Donald Trump,

then Richard Nixon, then Joe Biden. Last. Last. Dead last. Now listen, what's wild is Barack Obama has 20% negative, 41% positive. Ronald Reagan had 40% positive and 10% negative. 4 to 1 ratio. Wow.

That is crazy. Bill Clinton, 10% negative, 27% positive. The rest of them are like 12 and 13. George W. Bush is 12 negative. He's just, you know, plus one. Jimmy Carter is zero. Carter's a little too high on the list for my My two, mine too. He's got to be behind George H.W. Bush.

I don't care. That's not even close. The only one besides Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama that had over 30% likability was Donald Trump. 45% negative, 30% positive. That's going to change. Yeah, I think that is changing. Nixon, 34% negative. Joe Biden, 44% negative. Wow.

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